Video: Up There
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Today’s insanity break: an excellent short film titled “Up There.” (Here’s the website.)
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Political Atheist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 3:50:20pm |
When automation replaces hand skills something soulful is lost. We get more efficient, faster and yet more shallow. Even in advertising.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 3:59:04pm |
When you take one path you can’t take the other at the same time.
It’s truly wondrous that they can skillfully and artfully portray the translucent beer in the glass on the side of the building, but printing it on vinyl is Science!
and science gets the win in the end.
Someday soon the lost art of vinyl printing will be bemoaned as spray on pixel space or something similar replaces it.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:03:57pm |
This is still my favorite version of “Up There”
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:05:44pm |
Screaming video doesn’t come in too good on my DSL. I had to watch a new episode of LOST two weeks ago on line because I had to work during the show, and I had to wait for the whole thing to stream to my hard drive first before I could even watch it.
Was it good.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:07:08pm |
re: #5 Walter L. Newton
This was very choppy for me, until I turned off the High Def. Then it went smoothly. Yes, it’s very good.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:21:25pm |
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:21:51pm |
re: #5 Walter L. Newton
Screaming video doesn’t come in too good on my DSL. I had to watch a new episode of LOST two weeks ago on line because I had to work during the show, and I had to wait for the whole thing to stream to my hard drive first before I could even watch it.
Was it good.
Screaming video?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:23:27pm |
re: #9 reine.de.tout
Screaming video?
It’s what happens when you realize that only the turd gets off the island.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:23:41pm |
Can’t watch it. I have this problem every time Charles posts a Vimeo video. Don’t know if it’s my DSL connection (Qwest) or my video card (Geforce FX 5200).
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:24:12pm |
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:27:06pm |
re: #12 Dreggas
probably like this:
[Video]
good grief!
My daughter had a day or two like that.
Only she was much younger than that.
Like 2 years old.
Not 12 or whatever.
LOL
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:28:13pm |
re: #10 darthstar
It’s what happens when you realize that only the turd gets off the island.
Mandy Manners actually had one of the best typos I’ve seen, and iirc, it was at the very top of a thread.
She asked about somebody grabbing a screen shit.
hehehe.
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Stanghazi Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:28:37pm |
Sorry, but OT. Drudge has a blurb (no link)
SOURCE: Residents in AZ organizing counter-boycott of Mexican food restaurants, travel to Mexican resorts… Developing…
No more Mexican food for the xenophobes!
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:29:12pm |
re: #11 Bubblehead II
Can’t watch it. I have this problem every time Charles posts a Vimeo video. Don’t know if it’s my DSL connection (Qwest) or my video card (Geforce FX 5200).
You know you can get a replacement for that card that will blow it away for less than 40 bucks right? (probably under 25 if you go to the local build it yourself store…)
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:29:33pm |
ooops .. the link
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:30:55pm |
re: #15 Stanley Sea
That’s hilarious.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:32:43pm |
re: #10 darthstar
It’s what happens when you realize that only the turd gets off the island.
If you are going to address anything about the show LOST, please properly address the show elements correctly… it’s The Island, not lowercase “the island.” The IsLand is actually considered a character.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:33:04pm |
Health Care Reform - the new laws on recission don’t kick in until 2014…but some insurers are going to start abiding by it a little earlier than that:
(Indianapolis, April 27, 2010) WellPoint, Inc. (NYSE: WLP), the nation’s largest health insurer, announced today that it will implement federal legislation regarding individual market rescissions effective May 1. This is well ahead of the effective date contained in the legislation. WellPoint is the first insurer to implement the provision. This move builds on WellPoint’s leadership in the early implementation of reform by extending coverage to dependents up to age 26.
[Link: www.wellpoint.com…]
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:33:56pm |
re: #19 Walter L. Newton
Wait, there’s the Island, which is the location, and also the IsLand, a character?
What’s the IsLand look like?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:34:24pm |
re: #19 Walter L. Newton
If you are going to address anything about the show LOST, please properly address the show elements correctly… it’s The Island, not lowercase “the island.” The IsLand is actually considered a character.
Okay…the set. The turd will get off the set. Everyone else will go to Oprah.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:36:11pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
Wait, there’s the Island, which is the location, and also the IsLand, a character?
What’s the IsLand look like?
I predict one of those crappy “it was all just a dream” endings…
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:36:45pm |
re: #20 darthstar
Translation: We got caught fucking over women with breast cancer and better do something to cover our ass before we get in more trouble.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:38:51pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
Wait, there’s the Island, which is the location, and also the IsLand, a character? What’s the IsLand look like?
No… it’s The Island, just like you would say getting off of Sandra Bullock.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:39:27pm |
re: #25 Walter L. Newton
No… it’s The Island, just like you would say getting off of Sandra Bullock.
Who in their right mind would ever want to get off of Sandra Bullock?
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:39:43pm |
Because I’m on a Queen kick:
This is one of the greatest music sets of all time, Queen at Live Aid:
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:40:04pm |
re: #23 darthstar
I predict one of those crappy “it was all just a dream” endings…
Nope… wait… you don’t even watch the show. How would you know OR CARE… you’re making me cry…
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Vambo Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:40:15pm |
Shakira to the rescue in AZ!!!
[Link: colombiareports.com…]
normally I hate it when celebrities get directly involved with politics, but what the hell.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:40:45pm |
re: #25 Walter L. Newton
No… it’s The Island,
So why did you say:
re: #19 Walter L. Newton
If you are going to address anything about the show LOST, please properly address the show elements correctly… it’s The Island, not lowercase “the island.” The IsLand is actually considered a character.
Who is The IsLand?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:41:35pm |
re: #25 Walter L. Newton
No… it’s The Island, just like you would say getting off of Sandra Bullock.
Well, you would have to eventually… to eat (well, you could do that there)… to drink… (well there are possibilities in that area too)… well… to go to the bathroom… (I’ve heard of some people who… never mind)…
You’re right.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:41:49pm |
re: #17 Thanos
Yeah, but I am just being cheap. The system I have is actually kind of old (Dell Dimension 8100), but a video upgrade is probably advisable. Memory upgrades on the other hand not so much.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:42:26pm |
Who is going to hire those guys when they don’t even use photoshop to “tuck” the models waistlines or anything that all the modern T.V. and magazine ads do?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:42:30pm |
re: #29 Vambo
Shakira to the rescue in AZ!!!
[Link: colombiareports.com…]normally I hate it when celebrities get directly involved with politics, but what the hell.
At a sidelong glance, I saw that as “I hate it when Colombians get directly involved with politics,” and I was thinking, well, how else does politics happen in Colombia?
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:43:40pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
Wait, there’s the Island, which is the location, and also the IsLand, a character?
What’s the IsLand look like?
They should have called it Lost: Deus ex Machina
(walter’s gonna kill me…)
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Jadespring Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:44:47pm |
re: #35 Aceofwhat?
They should have called it Lost: Deus ex Machina
(walter’s gonna kill me…)
I have Lost: Via Domus
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:45:02pm |
re: #28 Walter L. Newton
Nope… wait… you don’t even watch the show. How would you know OR CARE… you’re making me cry…
I watched the first two seasons and a few random episodes after that. The island is an island…or rather, TWO islands. And there’s a submarine, and a couple of underground server rooms with big fucking magnets and a 108 second clock and a white bear and some black smoke and some really good dope in a plastic virgin.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:45:32pm |
re: #30 Obdicut
Who is The IsLand?
We don’t know yet… but there has been many times during the series that The Island has been personified… “The Island is not done with you yet”… “If The Island doesn’t want you to die, you won’t” and so on… the writers have given The Island a actual personality and The Island seems to be capable of effecting outcomes… just like a living character.
It has become a meme with fans to consider The Island as a character with a plot purpose.
That’s why I said what I said.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:46:17pm |
re: #35 Aceofwhat?
They should have called it Lost: Deus ex Machina
(walter’s gonna kill me…)
Why? There was an episode named that, but other than that, why would you suggest that.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:46:30pm |
re: #36 Jadespring
I have Lost: Via Domus
You’re kidding - i’d never heard of it. Is it any good?
(i.e. is it better than the show?)
(heh)
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:46:57pm |
re: #32 Bubblehead II
Yeah, but I am just being cheap. The system I have is actually kind of old (Dell Dimension 8100), but a video upgrade is probably advisable. Memory upgrades on the other hand not so much.
a 1gb stick of ddr2700 isn’t all that much these days - and an upgraded AGP card won’t be a whole lot more.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:47:09pm |
re: #38 Walter L. Newton
But who is “The IsLand” with a capital L?
You said that whoever was messing up the capitalization of “The Island”, but then you talked about someone called The IsLand, with a capital L, who is a character. So who is that?
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:47:32pm |
re: #39 Walter L. Newton
Why? There was an episode named that, but other than that, why would you suggest that.
Because it sounds like one huge series of Deus ex Machina…but i readily admit that i’ve only watched one episode and i’m being ornery, so keep that in mind-
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:48:32pm |
re: #42 Obdicut
But who is “The IsLand” with a capital L?
You said that whoever was messing up the capitalization of “The Island”, but then you talked about someone called The IsLand, with a capital L, who is a character. So who is that?
Oh… you were being the English writing police… ha… ha… you’re quick, nuanced, annoying.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:48:49pm |
re: #41 wozzablog
a 1gb stick of ddr2700 isn’t all that much these days - and an upgraded AGP card won’t be a whole lot more.
and if you do it right, you can just transplant them to a new machine when the old one finally bites the dust…
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:49:34pm |
re: #29 Vambo
Shakira to the rescue in AZ!!!
[Link: colombiareports.com…]normally I hate it when celebrities get directly involved with politics, but what the hell.
It’s funny reading some of the comments there. The usual “she ain’t no American” stuff. Right, this coming from a nation who’s citizenry whose favorite pastime is to stick their noses in other nation’s business. This of course is fine by me and she has every right to speak out against this modern day Jim Crow law.
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Jadespring Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:50:01pm |
re: #40 Aceofwhat?
You’re kidding - i’d never heard of it. Is it any good?
(i.e. is it better than the show?)
(heh)
No it’s not very good. Cost me 10 bucks in the bargain bin so it was okay relative to that.
It was fun running around the jungle and hiding from the smoke monster though.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:50:46pm |
re: #44 Walter L. Newton
Oh… you were being the English writing police… ha… ha… you’re quick, nuanced, annoying.
Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were correcting someone else’s capitalization of the word “the island”, saying he shouldn’t use the lower case, so I didn’t think you’d then mis-capitalize a word. Sorry.
I though that the Lost guys had gone and thrown another twist in by separating “The Island” from “The IsLand”. I don’t watch the show, so I thought you were talking about a plot thingy.
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ryannon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:52:17pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
Wait, there’s the Island, which is the location, and also the IsLand, a character?
What’s the IsLand look like?
Phat.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:52:17pm |
re: #27 Obdicut
We have a game for you then.
Wonder what they could do with Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of The moon?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:52:39pm |
re: #48 Obdicut
Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were correcting someone else’s capitalization of the word “the island”, saying he shouldn’t use the lower case, so I didn’t think you’d then mis-capitalize a word. Sorry.
I though that the Lost guys had gone and thrown another twist in by separating “The Island” from “The IsLand”. I don’t watch the show, so I thought you were talking about a plot thingy.
Nah…he was just saying that I wasn’t showing the island enough respect by capitalizing it…but it’s just an island…one of two in the show. It doesn’t have a proper name, so I don’t capitalize it. If it was called Bulamalanganao or something like that, then I’d capitalize it…but it’s just an island.
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:53:22pm |
re: #45 Aceofwhat?
and if you do it right, you can just transplant them to a new machine when the old one finally bites the dust…
for AGP and DDR1 it’d probably have to be a recon machine - but those are very reasonable these days - particularly if you do home work and buy low spec, then use the existing upgrades.
We got a 3.ghz celeron refurb with a years warranty for not a lot of money compared to something brand new.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:54:01pm |
re: #43 Aceofwhat?
Because it sounds like one huge series of Deus ex Machina…but i readily admit that i’ve only watched one episode and i’m being ornery, so keep that in mind-
Ok… I would say you’re wrong. There are two “godlike” characters, but they did not come into the plot “suddenly” just to explain something or to fix something. They have been there from almost the beginning. We have heard about “Jacob” since season two. The other godlike character, The Smoke Monster (aka; the MIB, the Nemesis) we first saw in season one in “Walkabout”.
So, there was evidence early on that there were “godlike” characters moving the plot.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:54:11pm |
re: #51 darthstar
Hey! I just named the island. Bulamalanganao. So the question remains: Will anyone (besides the turd) get off of Bulamalanganao?
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:54:24pm |
re: #50 Bubblehead II
Yeah, it’d be fun to hear a version of that with the Queen energy and harder guitars and drums and stuff. I wonder if it’d be even more terrifying.
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:55:15pm |
laters kids - been kicking around a headache all day, gonna try and get some shut eye.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:55:34pm |
re: #54 darthstar
Hey! I just named the island. Bulamalanganao. So the question remains: Will anyone (besides the turd) get off of Bulamalanganao?
I’ll tell you what. May 23rd, SUnday night is the series finale, there will be a two hour recap of the 6 years, and then a 2 hour wrap. If you watch it, you can have all sorts of fun stuff to throw at me.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:56:17pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
Yeah, it’d be fun to hear a version of that with the Queen energy and harder guitars and drums and stuff. I wonder if it’d be even more terrifying.
I went to a Tea Leaf Green concert in SF one time and they had an opening band, so they did a ‘tweener’ set billed as “Guitarmageddon” with both drummers, both keyboard players, and five guitar players. It was a fun set…the highlight of which was an ass-kicking version of ‘Fat Bottom Girls’…
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:56:45pm |
re: #57 Walter L. Newton
I’ll tell you what. May 23rd, SUnday night is the series finale, there will be a two hour recap of the 6 years, and then a 2 hour wrap. If you watch it, you can have all sorts of fun stuff to throw at me.
Okay…do you want a Bulamanganao t-shirt?
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Locker Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:57:30pm |
I feel like picking a fight. Let’s see….
Breaking Bad > Lost
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:58:13pm |
re: #58 darthstar
Someone mentioned Ringside in the other thread, since those dumbass nirhters are using the song in their video. But the song rocks, so here it is:
Struggle:
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:58:55pm |
re: #60 Locker
I feel like picking a fight. Let’s see…
Breaking Bad > Lost
I tried to get into Breaking Bad, but the show just didn’t take for me. If you really want to pick a fight, try something like “The Mentalist > Lost”
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:59:18pm |
re: #53 Walter L. Newton
Ok… I would say you’re wrong. There are two “godlike” characters, but they did not come into the plot “suddenly” just to explain something or to fix something. They have been there from almost the beginning. We have heard about “Jacob” since season two. The other godlike character, The Smoke Monster (aka; the MIB, the Nemesis) we first saw in season one in “Walkabout”.
So, there was evidence early on that there were “godlike” characters moving the plot.
to be clear, the device is not necessarily godlike, despite the phrase. it’s a reference to any plot device which appears suddenly and whose only purpose is to solve what seemed to be a previously intractable situation.
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rwdflynavy Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:59:51pm |
re: #58 darthstar
I went to a Tea Leaf Green concert in SF one time and they had an opening band, so they did a ‘tweener’ set billed as “Guitarmageddon” with both drummers, both keyboard players, and five guitar players. It was a fun set…the highlight of which was an ass-kicking version of ‘Fat Bottom Girls’…
I just never picked you as a “Tea Partier”.
//
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:00:05pm |
Holy mackerel. It’s about time:
First Offshore Wind Farm in U.S. Is Approved
BOSTON — After nine years of regulatory review, the federal government gave the green light Wednesday to the nation’s first offshore wind farm, a highly contested project off the coast of Cape Cod.
The approval of the 130-turbine farm gives a significant boost to the nascent offshore wind industry in the United States, which has lagged far behind Europe and China in harnessing the strong and steady power of ocean breezes to provide electricity to homes and businesses.
With Gov. Deval Patrick standing beside him, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced at a news conference at the Massachusetts Statehouse that the government had approved a permit for Cape Wind Associates, a private venture, to build the farm.
“I am approving the Cape Wind project,” Mr. Salazar said. “This will be the first of many projects up and down the Atlantic coast.”
The Cape Wind turbines would lie in Nantucket Sound, about five miles from the nearest shoreline, and cover 24 square miles, roughly the size of Manhattan. The tip of the highest blade of each turbine would reach 440 feet above the water.
Caveat:
But the project is hardly shovel ready. Several regulatory hurdles remain, and opponents of the wind farm have vowed to go to court, potentially stalling Cape Wind for several more years…
And this:
Senator Scott Brown, Republican of Massachusetts, issued a statement opposing the decision immediately after it was announced, saying it would hinder tourism and boating in the area.
Yep. The stagnation will continue.
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Locker Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:00:44pm |
re: #62 darthstar
I tried to get into Breaking Bad, but the show just didn’t take for me. If you really want to pick a fight, try something like “The Mentalist > Lost”
I don’t even know what The Mentalist is to be honest. Breaking Bad is great. I put it up there with the pay channel shows like Nurse Jackie, Weeds, etc.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:00:55pm |
re: #62 darthstar
I tried to get into Breaking Bad, but the show just didn’t take for me. If you really want to pick a fight, try something like “The Mentalist > Lost”
Well, since Walter’s kind enough to bare his soul, i should out myself as a True Blood fan…
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:01:00pm |
re: #38 Walter L. Newton
We don’t know yet… but there has been many times during the series that The Island has been personified… “The Island is not done with you yet”… “If The Island doesn’t want you to die, you won’t” and so on… the writers have given The Island a actual personality and The Island seems to be capable of effecting outcomes… just like a living character.
It has become a meme with fans to consider The Island as a character with a plot purpose.
That’s why I said what I said.
They will explain it all as being just a fairly long and detailed dream by a young girl named Loquishsa who lives in Brooklyn in the final episode, none of it ever happened nor do any of the characters actually exist. It was all just a dream, dream, dream, dream… :p
///
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:01:56pm |
re: #63 Aceofwhat?
to be clear, the device is not necessarily godlike, despite the phrase. it’s a reference to any plot device which appears suddenly and whose only purpose is to solve what seemed to be a previously intractable situation.
Understood.. but that’s still my point, there is nothing in this show that suddenly “appears” just to solve something… there has been a coherent series of plot arcs that nicely dovetail into each other and supports the plot and moves it forward.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:02:28pm |
SHAMELESS COOKBOOK PROMOTION!
Volume 2 of the LGF Readers cookbook is ready! Click my nic to get to the blog, and then click the orange LULU button to the right. Volume 1 is still available at the blue LULU button.
The price of the book is set just as the price was for Volume 1, that is, the sale of the book will result in a “profit” of $5 per book sold. This will be distributed according to the final distribution vote - the vote closes on April 30th.
There are lots of great recipes, plus special bonus material!
Killgore has his very own special gardening section.
And be sure to check out the ROFLMAO section, which includes a Very Long Geeky Engineer Pun Thread; the Definitive Cognito Banning Timeline; How Honcos Came To Be; We Have Our Very Own Personal SpaceJesus; Viagra Creates the 4-hour Thread; and many more! These feature comments by a cast of - well - a lot - including FBV, Lazardo, Walter L Newton, Spare O’Lake, LVQ, Slumbering Behemoth, Hoosier Hoops and many others!
A NOTE ABOUT THE PROOFING: There was a lot of help with that, but remember that everyone who helped is an amateur volunteer!
Also, in the ROFLMAO section - any errors were left intact in that section, in which people’s comments appear exactly as written. Hehehe.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:02:53pm |
re: #66 Locker
I don’t even know what The Mentalist is to be honest. Breaking Bad is great. I put it up there with the pay channel shows like Nurse Jackie, Weeds, etc.
I don’t watch TV (except for LOST), so I don’t even know what those shows are or where to find them. I don’t really like TV.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:02:55pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
Holy mackerel. It’s about time:
First Offshore Wind Farm in U.S. Is Approved
Yep. The stagnation will continue.
So Brown agrees with Teddy Kennedy!!!
/RINO!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:03:23pm |
re: #67 Aceofwhat?
Well, since Walter’s kind enough to bare his soul, i should out myself as a True Blood fan…
What’s that?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:03:41pm |
re: #67 Aceofwhat?
Well, since Walter’s kind enough to bare his soul, i should out myself as a True Blood fan…
I liked True Blood for a bit, but that show got old. I did enjoy Leverage for a while, and Damages was okay. The Mentalist got old after about five episodes.
The best series I can recall was HBO’s Oz (though Deadwood was good too). Oz ended on a fizzle though, with me wishing I’d just stopped watching instead of watching the last episode. Same thing went for The Sopranos.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:03:58pm |
re: #60 Locker
I feel like picking a fight. Let’s see…
Breaking Bad > Lost
Err, sorry nope, breaking bad is for especially sociopathic morons for whom 24 was too highbrow in plot and scope and not nearly violent enough. :p
/
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:04:15pm |
re: #72 Thanos
So Brown agrees with Teddy Kennedy!!!
/RINO!
Yep. Scott Brown the NIMBYist. Who’d’thunk it.
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laZardo Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:04:42pm |
re: #70 reine.de.tout
OMFG I GOT PUBLISHED.
/driveby post before commute to school, will catch up from thar.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:05:19pm |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Understood.. but that’s still my point, there is nothing in this show that suddenly “appears” just to solve something… there has been a coherent series of plot arcs that nicely dovetail into each other and supports the plot and moves it forward.
i believe you…it just sounds that way secondhand…and i’m being sassy
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:05:57pm |
re: #70 reine.de.tout
A NOTE ABOUT THE PROOFING:
It’s always handy to have a big pot of boiling water on hand.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:05:58pm |
PZed is pushing the following video today on his blog…
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:06:20pm |
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:06:33pm |
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:06:34pm |
re: #76 Gus 802
Yep. Scott Brown the NIMBYist. Who’d’thunk it.
See they just don’t know how to sell those windfarms offshore. They need to equip them with floating bars, observation decks, and picnic tables. They’d be everywhere overnight.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:07:00pm |
re: #79 jaunte
A NOTE ABOUT THE PROOFING:
It’s always handy to have a big pot of boiling water on hand.
Lol.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:07:16pm |
re: #83 Aceofwhat?
hbo, vampire series. very dark humor - right up my alley.
They don’t sparkle, do they?
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:07:52pm |
re: #84 Thanos
See they just don’t know how to sell those windfarms offshore. They need to equip them with floating bars, observation decks, and picnic tables. They’d be everywhere overnight.
Hmmm… How about…
Hooters Windfarms and Bar&trade
“delightfully tacky yet unrefined… and green”
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:07:53pm |
“Nurse Jackie” on Showtime is very good. I am like the character of Zoe on many levels. “Mom, nobody ate the muffins I made.”
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:08:07pm |
re: #80 freetoken
That’s Thunderfoot…
[Link: www.youtube.com…]
a good youtube channel to subscribe to.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:08:35pm |
I have 5 pieces of turquoise dopped on sticks and ready to polish… bbl
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:09:09pm |
re: #88 prairiefire
Hey, another avatar! That one looks like a …. prairie fire.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:09:56pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
They don’t sparkle, do they?
nope. they burn in the sun like real, honest vampires.
but it’s set in way-down Louisiana, so the southern culture clashes nicely with the vampire bit.
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Locker Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:10:16pm |
re: #71 Walter L. Newton
I don’t watch TV (except for LOST), so I don’t even know what those shows are or where to find them. I don’t really like TV.
I watch a bit but I really don’t watch any shows that are on the big 3, etc. If I were to recommend something I think “The Wire” is the best television series ever made with “The Sopranos” a close second. Maybe I’d like Lost more if it was called “The Lost”… who knows.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:10:24pm |
re: #79 jaunte
A NOTE ABOUT THE PROOFING:
It’s always handy to have a big pot of boiling water on hand.
hahaha!
How did that keep showing up in different places?
Weird.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:10:26pm |
re: #80 freetoken
That’s Michael Travesser of Strong city (currently in jail for pedophilia with the two girls in the vid.) Nat Geo did two documentaries on the cult.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:10:56pm |
re: #91 Walter L. Newton
I have 5 pieces of turquoise dopped on sticks and ready to polish… bbl
Whatcha going to do with them?
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:11:11pm |
re: #92 wrenchwench
You are correct! I retired the Dr. for awhile.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:11:12pm |
re: #95 reine.de.tout
It’s a soup starter, it’s a floor cleaner, it’s a home defense system…
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:12:43pm |
re: #99 jaunte
It’s a soup starter, it’s a floor cleaner, it’s a home defense system…
Everything you need!
Right there.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:13:03pm |
re: #70 reine.de.tout
Ohboyohboyohboy!
I just bought the new cookbook!
Grabs a glass of wine to go sit by the mailbox!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:13:39pm |
re: #101 Floral Giraffe
Ohboyohboyohboy!
I just bought the new cookbook!
Grabs a glass of wine to go sit by the mailbox!
Will be worth the price just for the art. Seriously.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:14:11pm |
re: #85 Killgore Trout
Lol.
ahem.
Mother’s Day is coming up, and I bet your Mom would LOVE a copy of that cookbook with your very own gardening section.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:14:29pm |
re: #101 Floral Giraffe
Ohboyohboyohboy!
I just bought the new cookbook!
Grabs a glass of wine to go sit by the mailbox!
I’ll have to wait a few weeks to make sure I can pay my bills. I never bought volume one so I’ll get both at the same time.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:14:31pm |
re: #101 Floral Giraffe
Ohboyohboyohboy!
I just bought the new cookbook!
Grabs a glass of wine to go sit by the mailbox!
Take the bottle with you, it is going to be just a little while….
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:14:52pm |
re: #102 reine.de.tout
I like that the price came in under last year’s.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:15:03pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
The bike race bonus screen is a hoot. Played to the tune of Bicycle Race. of course.
And with that I am calling it a night.
Sigh, I guess a video card update is scheduled for tomorrow.
Night Lizards.
BTW. Buy the Cookbook. You all know you want to try my highly sought after Lasagna, as well as all those, ahem, other recipes.
Recipe Pimping. Who knew it was the wave of the future? :-)
L8R
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:15:29pm |
re: #103 reine.de.tout
ahem.
Mother’s Day is coming up, and I bet your Mom would LOVE a copy of that cookbook with your very own gardening section.
That’s a good idea.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:15:38pm |
re: #106 jaunte
I like that the price came in under last year’s.
Me too.
I thought it was going to be more.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:16:29pm |
re: #96 Thanos
Most the items in the video have been discussed thoroughly (including on youtube), but I thought it interesting that Thunderfoot is equating the Internet as the means by which religions die.
My take is somewhat different. The advent of the internet, in the US anyway, has encourage the nuttier fringes of the religious to be more efficient in their nuttiness… just like the internet has also made it more likely that astroturf/faux-movements gain some sort of legitimacy. I’m thinking here of the WUWT/Heartland/Fox axis attacks on scientists, for example.
In the US, even while main-line Christian denominations continue to shrink the independent, especially charismatic/evangelical groups continue to be healthy.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:16:52pm |
re: #106 jaunte
Your artwork looks great!
Can’t wait!
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Jadespring Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:16:58pm |
re: #62 darthstar
I tried to get into Breaking Bad, but the show just didn’t take for me. If you really want to pick a fight, try something like “The Mentalist > Lost”
I would agree with that. Love ‘The Mentalist’. He reminds me of my hubby.
Him and the ‘Lie to Me’ guy.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:17:53pm |
re: #109 reine.de.tout
Does Charles get a gift cookbook?
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:18:22pm |
More recipe pimping:
George G, who volunteered to do a huge amount of assembly work on the cookbook, got interested enough to contribute his own killer Chilean Sea Bass spiced (among other things) with habanero peppers. He claims it isn’t too spicy.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:18:28pm |
re: #97 reine.de.tout
Whatcha going to do with them?
You mean after they are polished… probably mount some bolo and brooch findings on the back… sometimes I just bag them and sell them unmounted for people who want to make their own jewelry out of them.
I’m not a smith, so, I can do pendants, brooches, bolo, baroque pieces for others to finish… but I’m not set up to custom smith gold or silver… I took a silver class once… but currently I can’t afford the equipment to smith.
I have years worth of stone rough that I can shape and polish until the cows come home.
Sometimes in the summer I attend small art shows or craft shows and sell misc pieces, chokers, small pendants etc. Along with other minerals and meteorites.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:19:34pm |
re: #113 Floral Giraffe
Does Charles get a gift cookbook?
I would be honored to send Charles a gift cookbook.
I would, however, need an address to mail it.
And Charles may not - actually, most likely will not want to give that out.
For good reasons
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:20:35pm |
re: #110 freetoken
Most the items in the video have been discussed thoroughly (including on youtube), but I thought it interesting that Thunderfoot is equating the Internet as the means by which religions die.
My take is somewhat different. The advent of the internet, in the US anyway, has encourage the nuttier fringes of the religious to be more efficient in their nuttiness… just like the internet has also made it more likely that astroturf/faux-movements gain some sort of legitimacy. I’m thinking here of the WUWT/Heartland/Fox axis attacks on scientists, for example.
In the US, even while main-line Christian denominations continue to shrink the independent, especially charismatic/evangelical groups continue to be healthy.
They are still overall shrinking. While they can temporarily appear bigger/louder that self same exposure also serves to delegitimatize them in many other people’s eyes.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:21:16pm |
Never watched Lost. Have not viewed any of the serial dramas since Sopranos.
Why? I loved the Sopranos. Watched religiously. Then they delivered a completely unsatisfying last act. They screwed with me. And walked away with a chuckle no doubt.
Thenceforth no television show that last more than 4 hours, including sports, is on of my viewing list. Trick fuck you they will.
Be prepared ye loyal Lost fans.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:24:58pm |
re: #116 reine.de.tout
I was wondering if the publisher/printer, who also does the LGF Calendars, could take care of that tricky part…
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:27:00pm |
re: #119 Floral Giraffe
I was wondering if the publisher/printer, who also does the LGF Calendars, could take care of that tricky part…
When I place an order, which is the only way I have to make a gift of the book, I have to give a mailing address.
When others place orders, I don’t see who is ordering or where it’s going. But I also cannot then make a gift of the book.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:28:11pm |
re: #118 The Shadow Do
Never watched Lost. Have not viewed any of the serial dramas since Sopranos.
Why? I loved the Sopranos. Watched religiously. Then they delivered a completely unsatisfying last act. They screwed with me. And walked away with a chuckle no doubt.Thenceforth no television show that last more than 4 hours, including sports, is on of my viewing list. Trick fuck you they will.
Be prepared ye loyal Lost fans.
Won’t happen… that’s been the promise from day one… read the 8 page article in the current issue of WIRED.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:29:00pm |
Reine: The best typo I ever saw was the one about the fights between the Christians and the Loins. Can’t remember who that was. Maybe they’ll confess.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:29:18pm |
re: #119 Floral Giraffe
I was wondering if the publisher/printer, who also does the LGF Calendars, could take care of that tricky part…
check yer email, please.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:29:45pm |
re: #119 Floral Giraffe
I was wondering if the publisher/printer, who also does the LGF Calendars, could take care of that tricky part…
Or, you could meet him in a hotel lobby, wearing a beret, carrying a copy of Sonnets of the Portuguese with a red binding and standing behind a large flower pot.
It could happen.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:29:48pm |
re: #122 EmmmieG
Reine: The best typo I ever saw was the one about the fights between the Christians and the Loins. Can’t remember who that was. Maybe they’ll confess.
If you find it, let me know.
I’ll hang onto it. Just in case.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:29:50pm |
re: #121 Walter L. Newton
Won’t happen… that’s been the promise from day one… read the 8 page article in the current issue of WIRED.
Catharsis on the horizon?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:36:45pm |
re: #68 ausador
They will explain it all as being just a fairly long and detailed dream by a young girl named Loquishsa who lives in Brooklyn in the final episode, none of it ever happened nor do any of the characters actually exist. It was all just a dream, dream, dream, dream… :p
///
That kid has one hell of an imagination.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:36:57pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:38:22pm |
re: #74 darthstar
I liked True Blood for a bit, but that show got old. I did enjoy Leverage for a while, and Damages was okay. The Mentalist got old after about five episodes.
The best series I can recall was HBO’s Oz (though Deadwood was good too). Oz ended on a fizzle though, with me wishing I’d just stopped watching instead of watching the last episode. Same thing went for The Sopranos.
Leverage is awesome.
“Did you ever think about getting married?”
“Once.”
“What happened?”
“She married someone else.”
“So what’d you do?”
“Do? DO? I LIBERATED CROATIA! That’s what I did!”
“See, that’s the difference between you and me. I probably would have just sat on the couch and watched TV and ate a lot of Doritos.”
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:40:16pm |
re: #126 The Shadow Do
Catharsis on the horizon?
No… if you haven’t been a LOST fan, or if you haven’t really been keeping up with the history of the series, from pre-production to the six years of episodes, you would know that one of the primary differences of this show compared to other NETWORK shows was that the producers asked for and got a six year contract.
It was their intention from the very beginning to create a movie-like episodic evening TV show that wouldn’t just fart out when the network decided to cancel.
I’ve gone through this numerous times, but, again, the major plot arcs and how everything fits was worked out before they even filmed the pilot. Like any TV series, they had wiggle room in regards to getting from A to Z, but in general, this was all worked out from the beginning. And if you were a constant viewer of the series, you would see how all the pieces are fitting together and realize that they had to know how the plot would work out.
Nothing is impossible, but it would be quite a shock if after 6 years of promoting the spin that this series was preconceived from the beginning, if they just blow off the wrap up.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:40:33pm |
re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist
Leverage is awesome.
“Did you ever think about getting married?”
“Once.”
“What happened?”
“She married someone else.”
“So what’d you do?”
“Do? DO? I LIBERATED CROATIA! That’s what I did!”
“See, that’s the difference between you and me. I probably would have just sat on the couch and watched TV and ate a lot of Doritos.”
“So, I hacked into the Pentagon’s computers, ‘cause I was bored, and let me tell you, we are up to some PRET-ty hinky stuff in Pakistan.”
“Elliot, what’ve you been doing?”
“I was out of the country.”
“Where?”
“…Pakistan.”
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:43:12pm |
They apparently are going to try to burn off the oil from the rig explosion.
From the sound of it, it looks like they’ve got a plan that could work, with little danger to whatever else is out there.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:44:50pm |
re: #124 researchok
Or, you could meet him in a hotel lobby, wearing a beret, carrying a copy of Sonnets of the Portuguese with a red binding and standing behind a large flower pot.
It could happen.
The neck would give me away!
;)
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:48:04pm |
re: #132 reine.de.tout
These pieces are looking nice… I’m going to mail you one early next week… any particular way you want the piece of turquoise… bolo back, just the piece, pin backed, pendant?
Let me know.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:48:30pm |
Just because we all know those evil scientists are not to be trusted:
EXCLUSIVE: Citizen’s Group Plans Extensive Audit of U.N. Climate Report
A leading global warming skeptic recruited a group of concerned citizens to fact-check the sources referenced in the U.N.’s latest climate-change bible — and gave the report an “F.” Now she’s planning the nail in the coffin: a comprehensive audit of the entire report.
Following a series of scandals that led to doubts about the accuracy of the United Nations’ most recent climate-change report, Donna Laframboise of NoConsensus.org gathered a group of citizens online and proved that the U.N. over-relied upon so-called “gray literature,” rather than using exclusively peer-reviewed scientific reports as the organization was supposed to do.
[…]
But another former contributor to the IPCC process, Patrick J. Michaels, a scientist and senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, and the past president of the American Association of State Climatologists, told FoxNews.com that the real criticism of the U.N.’s climate report has just begun.
In addition to Laframboise’s NoConsensus.org, he said, there is a new “parallel universe” of online publications emerging, manned by serious scientists critical of the approach by governments around the world to climate change. He includes sites such as Climate Audit, Watts Up With That?, and TheBlackboard in that galaxy.
Hehe… WUWT, “serious scientists”… parallel universe indeed.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:49:33pm |
I wonder if Fox will get the “exclusive” on the Noah’s Ark discoveries also?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:54:57pm |
Hot Air is freaking out about the Puerto Rico conspiracy. Heh, I hope it happens just to make them flip out.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:55:55pm |
re: #136 freetoken
Just because we all know those evil scientists are not to be trusted:
EXCLUSIVE: Citizen’s Group Plans Extensive Audit of U.N. Climate Report
Hehe… WUWT, “serious scientists”… parallel universe indeed.
Just a question… have you ever read What’s Up With That?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:56:49pm |
They apparently are going to try to burn off the oil from the rig explosion.
From the sound of it, it looks like they’ve got a plan that could work, with little danger to whatever else is out there.
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
These pieces are looking nice… I’m going to mail you one early next week… any particular way you want the piece of turquoise… bolo back, just the piece, pin backed, pendant?
Let me know.
wow, Walter!
I love turqoise.
Pendant, if you can.
Wow.
Very generous of you!
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:56:58pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Can you catch me up on the high points? Are we giving it back to Spain?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:58:30pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Oh, they’re also freaking out about this….
Obama Calls In Riot Police On Peaceful Tea Party.
FAscism!
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 5:58:52pm |
re: #139 Walter L. Newton
A couple of years back, when the voting for the Best Blog awards was hot and WUWT was being pushed by some as a shoe it, I went over there to peruse it. Didn’t take long to get a good feel for the place.
Furthermore, any website that is pimped by the likes of Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell ought to be immediate suspicious.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:00:21pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Hot Air is freaking out about the Puerto Rico conspiracy. Heh, I hope it happens just to make them flip out.
I thought the Puerto Ricans had voted a few times not to become a state. Has something changed?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:00:30pm |
re: #141 freetoken
There’s a progressive conspiracy hidden in a secret senate bill to let Puerto Rico become a state and import more brown people who will vote Dem to get welfare. (or something like that)
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:01:04pm |
The immigration controversy is a deflection from the true problem facing America:
The current crop of politicians have no clue on how to successfully run this country.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:01:53pm |
re: #145 jaunte
I thought the Puerto Ricans had voted a few times not to become a state. Has something changed?
They changed the ballots in a clever plot to subliminally force people to vote for statehood.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:02:11pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:03:36pm |
re: #149 freetoken
Apocalyptic seed bank!
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:04:20pm |
re: #142 Killgore Trout
Oh, they’re also freaking out about this…
Obama Calls In Riot Police On Peaceful Tea Party.[Video]FAscism!
Obama calls in riot police? I see the geniuses are hard at work once again. This was a local police presence. Besides that it’s common for riot police to show up at protests from time to time. This is probably one of the first time the wingnut yokels have ever been on the receiving end.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:04:35pm |
Charles lives in their heads….
I’m sure Charles Johnson will be telling us that these old racists should have been arrested for… living… or something.tetriskid on April 28, 2010 at 8:28 PM
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:04:57pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
wow, Walter!
I love turqoise.
Pendant, if you can.
Wow.
Very generous of you!
Next week… a pendant with a 18 inch sterling chain.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:06:00pm |
re: #148 Killgore Trout
They changed the ballots in a clever plot to subliminally force people to vote for statehood.
you mean they used butterfly ballots?
(oh YES i did;)
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:06:36pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:06:49pm |
re: #155 Aceofwhat?
you mean they used butterfly ballots?
(oh YES i did;)
Lol, that’s pretty much the same theory from different idiots.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:06:57pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:07:06pm |
re: #146 Killgore Trout
There’s a progressive conspiracy hidden in a secret senate bill to let Puerto Rico become a state and import more brown people who will vote Dem to get welfare. (or something like that)
Huh? Since Puerto Ricans can come to the States any time they feel like it, where are we planning to ‘import’ people from?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:08:04pm |
re: #155 Aceofwhat?
you mean they used butterfly ballots?
(oh YES i did;)
Screw you! Butterfly ballots are confusing!!!!
///;)
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:09:52pm |
re: #79 jaunte
A NOTE ABOUT THE PROOFING:
It’s always handy to have a big pot of boiling water on hand.
So, this must have showed up a lot….
It is pretty funny.
You can do a lot of things with a big, boiling pot of water.
Most of them, good.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:10:09pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:10:26pm |
Hmm. The Chinese have been stripped of a medal from the 2000 Olympics for fielding an underage gymnast.
Those kids my kids competed against this week at the piano festival were awfully short…
Oh, right. There was no age limit, and it wasn’t actually a competition with winners and losers.
///
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:15:54pm |
re: #147 Racer X
The immigration controversy is a deflection from the true problem facing America:
The current crop of politicians have no clue on how to successfully run this country.
No one has ever known how to run this country. We’ve just been very lucky.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:18:29pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
Indeed, the idea of “running” the country sounds kind of scary. Incompetence has its own solace.
The other option, which gives the right-o-sphere conniption fits is a meritocracy. But the Tea Partiers are already in full scale demonstration against those elitist experts, so I doubt a true meritocracy is in the offing any time soon.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:19:07pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
No one has ever known how to run this country. We’ve just been very lucky.
LOTS of people know how to run this country.
It’s just that lots of other people aren’t going to be happy with it!
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:19:27pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
No one has ever known how to run this country. We’ve just been very lucky.
486 monkeys could do almost as well.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:19:56pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:20:24pm |
re: #167 Racer X
486 monkeys could do almost as well.
Random error might not be as bad as well-directed perfidy.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:26:27pm |
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:27:32pm |
re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist
Huh? Since Puerto Ricans can come to the States any time they feel like it, where are we planning to ‘import’ people from?
The wingnuts idiots over at Big Government have this as part of their paranoia:
The U.S. would transform, overnight, into a bilingual nation. At least half of Puerto Ricans do not speak English, the language of our U.S. Constitution and founding documents. The Washington Times article, “Puerto Rican statehood,” analyzes all the implications of adding a foreign language-speaking state to the Union.
Of course that’s pretty ironic considering that the act states this:
[Link: thomas.loc.gov…]
SEC. 3. APPLICABLE LAWS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
(e) English Ballots- The Puerto Rico State Elections Commission shall ensure that all ballots used for any plebiscite held under this Act include the full content of the ballot printed in English.
More xenophobia and racism from the right.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:30:22pm |
re: #171 Gus 802
Having three national languages has brought the Swiss nothing but chaos, disturbance and conflict for 400 years.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:30:31pm |
re: #171 Gus 802
More xenophobia and racism from the right.
Next up: Give New Mexico back to Old Mexico!
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:31:57pm |
re: #171 Gus 802
For a group that seems so self-declaredly concerned about the Constitution, where, oh where, in the US Constitution does it mention we could have such a condition to have a piece of land such as Puerto Rico in “commonwealth” with the US?
It seems to me that if one claims to believe in representative democracy then every generation of Puerto Ricans ought to have the right to vote to join the Union.
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:32:06pm |
re: #172 Decatur Deb
Having three national languages has brought the Swiss nothing but chaos, disturbance and conflict for 400 years.
Three languages and it’s teh Uropean nation!111!!
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:32:06pm |
re: #172 Decatur Deb
That’s what comes of having too many knife blades available.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:32:22pm |
re: #171 Gus 802
The U.S. would transform, overnight, into a bilingual nation. At least half of Puerto Ricans do not speak English, the language of our U.S. Constitution and founding documents. The Washington Times article, “Puerto Rican statehood,” analyzes all the implications of adding a foreign language-speaking state to the Union.
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:32:34pm |
re: #173 wrenchwench
Next up: Give New Mexico back to Old Mexico!
I think albusteve would object to that.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:33:40pm |
re: #172 Decatur Deb
Having three national languages has brought the Swiss nothing but chaos, disturbance and conflict for 400 years.
Yeah, but that’s because they are Swiss. Cuckoo clocks and and all that.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:33:46pm |
And, fwiw, DC ought to have a voting Representative, as most sure the residents of DC are taxed. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation?
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:34:03pm |
re: #177 researchok
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
Yeah. This country was always bilingual. Heck, make that multi-lingual if you consider the immigrants. That includes Germans, Irish, French, etc. Some of them couldn’t even speak a word of English.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:34:13pm |
re: #177 researchok
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
Eh. I’d make the point differently. Canada and Belgium haven’t exactly been models of bilingual cooperation lately…
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:35:44pm |
re: #181 Gus 802
Yeah. This country was always bilingual. Heck, make that multi-lingual if you consider the immigrants. That includes Germans, Irish, French, etc. Some of them couldn’t even speak a word of English.
And a couple hundred ways to say “White Eyes Go Home”.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:35:47pm |
re: #177 researchok
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
It needs to be noted that of those four countries, only Switzerland does not have serious problems with its different linguistic groups, though Canada’s are handled safely through the political process. Belgium has two ethnic groups that hate each other and it may yet split in two. Israeli Arabs have a serious problem with terrorist sympathies.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:36:13pm |
re: #182 Aceofwhat?
Eh. I’d make the point differently. Canada and Belgium haven’t exactly been models of bilingual cooperation lately…
Nope. Their beefs are political, mostly.
The grief came when one group or the other tries to force the language or culture.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:36:45pm |
So I heard on the radio today that there are more than several former Goldman Sachs employees employed by the Obama administration.
I did a quick google search and this came up:
Obama vs McCain or Goldman Sachs vs The Rothschilds
snip-
Just a little over one year after being elected as a junior senator, in 2006 Obama was the featured guest before a private gathering of the Goldman Sachs executives in Chicago, an honor unheard of for someone that politically insignificant, speaking before the most powerful financial firm on Wall Street and one of the most powerful in the world. This was quietly reported in Bloomberg News.It was the launch of his presidential campaign and Goldman executives soon gave over $800,000 to jump start the Obama presidential bid along with collecting millions of dollars from their fellow Wall Street firms and clients. Oh yes, Robert Rubin became the Obama economic expert, a former CEO of Goldman Sachs.
Billionaire Warren Buffet became his most trusted economic advisor, a man who was to invest $5 billion in Goldman Sachs in the height of the economic meltdown. Yet Buffet was also a personal guest of Lord Rothschild at a private conference at his English estate.
snip-
The first major change to the regulatory framework that opened the door to Enron and the sub-prime crisis occurred in 1991, when Goldman Sachs, through a subsidiary called J. Aron, argued that even though it was an investment bank it should be granted the same exemption given to commercial traders in the commodity markets because it was in the business of buying commodities as a middleman. It was granted by the CFTC.
Published 10-22-2008. Not sure who the author is.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:36:47pm |
re: #181 Gus 802
Yeah. This country was always bilingual. Heck, make that multi-lingual if you consider the immigrants. That includes Germans, Irish, French, etc. Some of them couldn’t even speak a word of English.
My grandfather came here from Denmark and didn’t speak any English…but he learned.
BTW…he did come here legally as well.
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:36:59pm |
re: #177 researchok
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
Also…
The act is just to approve an election in Puerto Rico. One that has failed three times over the years. English would remain the official language regardless.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:37:07pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
It needs to be noted that of those four countries, only Switzerland does not have serious problems with its different linguistic groups, though Canada’s are handled safely through the political process. Belgium has two ethnic groups that hate each other and it may yet split in two. Israeli Arabs have a serious problem with terrorist sympathies.
I thought he meant Israel was Hebrew/English, but then I lived in a town founded by New Yorkers.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:38:14pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
It needs to be noted that of those four countries, only Switzerland does not have serious problems with its different linguistic groups, though Canada’s are handled safely through the political process. Belgium has two ethnic groups that hate each other and it may yet split in two. Israeli Arabs have a serious problem with terrorist sympathies.
All true- but they do function. Take away the politics and bilingual societies do work.
Realistically, Texas, California and Arizona have been bilingual for a long time.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:38:32pm |
re: #185 researchok
Nope. Their beefs are political, mostly.
The grief came when one group or the other tries to force the language or culture.
the fact that the split occurs magically in line with the language difference is no coincidence.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:38:58pm |
re: #190 researchok
All true- but they do function. Take away the politics and bilingual societies do work.
Realistically, Texas, California and Arizona have been bilingual for a long time.
Try Brooklyn.
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Renaissance_Man Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:39:05pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
No one has ever known how to run this country. We’ve just been very lucky.
Actually, running the country is almost beside the point.
The purpose of politics and politicians is only peripherally to run the country. There’s no reason government should be any less efficient than anything in private industry, but the reason it is is not the fault of politicians. Government has a definite role, and there are some things that government does far better than the private sector, and vice versa. But again, none of that has much to do with inefficiency or running the country.
The main raison d’etre of politicians is to sell ideas to a democratic populace, and to have them participate in the running of their own country. Democracy as a whole is not an especially efficient system. It’s not even a very smart one. It tends to dilute any expertise in favour of popularity, even when the right thing to do is not necessarily popular. The real advantage of democracy, and why it remains the best of all governments tried, is that it provides a peaceful, simple means of removing bad government.
I tend not to blame politicians for governmental inefficiency or governmental paralysis so much. It’s fun to do, but in many cases it’s not their fault. Sure, when they present laughable and stupid ideas such as microchips/microchip bans, birther bills and the like, they need a good slap upside the head. But for most of the rest of the stuff, their role is to sell us, the public, on what needs to be done. And there are two very unfortunate problems with that. The first is that in some cases, we simply will not be sold on the solution. An example would be a tax increase. Even if it were the best and most efficient solution to a problem, we as a public cannot be sold on it. The politicians can try, and in some isolated cases they may succeed, but in general they will still have to force it on us. The second problem is that politicians in this modern age are at the mercy of the media when it comes to selling us an idea. And the media, sad to say, has found that it is far more lucrative to manipulate and pander to their public than to disseminate facts and information. And so we as a public demand salacious entertainment and divisive narratives, because they hold our attention far better than information that doesn’t manipulate our emotions.
I don’t blame politicians for not being able to run the country. They don’t run the country, we do. In this parliament of whores, the whores are us.
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webevintage Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:39:08pm |
“You know I hate Duke like I hate the Nazis“…..
It is lines like that that make me keep watching glee.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:39:41pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:39:41pm |
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:39:44pm |
re: #177 researchok
Canada is officially bilingual, as is Belgium. Israel is functionally bilingual. Switzerland is trilingual.
We’d manage.
It really is more a fear of the unknown. I don’t believe most Americans are fundamentally xenophobic.
I heard an interesting interview on NPR the other day…a father and son went to this document library in Egypt (can’t remember the name of the place off the top of my head)…documents date back over 1000 years. Most were written in Arabic. Apparently, Hebrew wasn’t the official language for Jews back then…most spoke Arabic and later a Hebrew-Arabic mix. The earliest printed Jewish song…written in Arabic. The reason this is significant is that it illustrates that Jews and Muslims used to get along to the point where they shared a common language. Maybe there’s still hope that one day they can again (get along, that is…not necessarily share a common language).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting enough to share…take it for what it’s worth.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:40:13pm |
re: #191 Aceofwhat?
the fact that the split occurs magically in line with the language difference is no coincidence.
Well, Quebec separation politics has been shelved. As a result. Montreal is booming and more bilingual than ever.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:40:22pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
I’ve worked in Switzerland…would do so again in a heartbeat. Gorgeous place.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:40:47pm |
re: #186 Racer X
Speaking of Sachs…
Clinton Calls Timing of Goldman Suit ‘Suspect’
In comments at the Peterson Foundation fiscal summit being held today in Washington, former president Bill Clinton told an audience that the timing of the SEC lawsuit against Goldman Sachs was “suspect” and that he is “not at all sure” that Goldman violated the law in the ABACUS deal that forms the center of the SEC case.
Clinton also said that synthetic CDOs like ABACUS have “no underlying merit” and came out in favor of transparency requirements and clearinghouses for the derivatives market.
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:41:02pm |
President Obama visited Missouri today:[Link: www.kansascity.com…]
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:41:37pm |
re: #198 researchok
Well, Quebec separation politics has been shelved. As a result. Montreal is booming and more bilingual than ever.
the license plates still say je me souviens…just because you don’t hear grumbling doesn’t mean there ain’t grumbling, copain…
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:41:41pm |
re: #193 Renaissance_Man
Keep it up with that rational shit and you’re going in the tank with Spacejesus.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:41:59pm |
re: #186 Racer X
You can safely ignore stuff about the Rothschilds. It’s probably written by a New World Order idiot.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:42:41pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:42:42pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:42:53pm |
re: #190 researchok
All true- but they do function. Take away the politics and bilingual societies do work.
Realistically, Texas, California and Arizona have been bilingual for a long time.
Again I’d have to exempt Belgium from that. It’s often been paralyzed by ethnic collisions. Bilingualism is problematic and best avoided.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:43:02pm |
re: #199 darthstar
I’ve worked in Switzerland…would do so again in a heartbeat. Gorgeous place.
it’s breathtaking. in some areas it’s best to have a 7-figure income, but i’d also move there in a heartbeat.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:43:29pm |
re: #197 darthstar
I heard an interesting interview on NPR the other day…a father and son went to this document library in Egypt (can’t remember the name of the place off the top of my head)…documents date back over 1000 years. Most were written in Arabic. Apparently, Hebrew wasn’t the official language for Jews back then…most spoke Arabic and later a Hebrew-Arabic mix. The earliest printed Jewish song…written in Arabic. The reason this is significant is that it illustrates that Jews and Muslims used to get along to the point where they shared a common language. Maybe there’s still hope that one day they can again (get along, that is…not necessarily share a common language).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting enough to share…take it for what it’s worth.
Good point. language cooperation and tolerance, when used for trade and cultural/societal ‘get along’ has always elevated and improved the society.
When language is used as a political tool to advance an ideology- as the Soviets did in Eastern Europe, always forments grief and divisiveness.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:44:13pm |
re: #204 Killgore Trout
You can safely ignore stuff about the Rothschilds. It’s probably written by a New World Order idiot.
I thought that was a candy bar.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:44:29pm |
re: #205 brookly red
/I question his timing of questioning their timing…
I question your timing of his timing of questioning their timing…
/
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:45:01pm |
re: #204 Killgore Trout
You can safely ignore stuff about the Rothschilds. It’s probably written by a New World Order idiot.
Perhaps. But I’m still looking for the Goldman Sachs / Obama connection. It appears GS contributed almost a million $ to his campaign. And several key figures in his admin are former GS big whigs.
I could care less about the current immigration kerfufle. I care about who is doing what to our economy - and why.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:45:13pm |
re: #206 Decatur Deb
Storefronts lettered in how many languages within 10 miles of you?
probably 15 or 20 languages on my shopping strip… but everyone speaks English to do business.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:45:45pm |
re: #202 Aceofwhat?
the license plates still say je me souviens…just because you don’t hear grumbling doesn’t mean there ain’t grumbling, copain…
People will always bitch. I read that people from Toronto are moving back to Montreal. Says it all.
I will admit my bias- I love the city. I really is ‘half NY and half Paree’.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:46:00pm |
re: #211 NJDhockeyfan
I question your timing of his timing of questioning their timing…
/
Duck season!
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:48:00pm |
re: #207 Dark_Falcon
Again I’d have to exempt Belgium from that. It’s often been paralyzed by ethnic collisions. Bilingualism is problematic and best avoided.
See my 209
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:48:02pm |
re: #200 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of Sachs…
Ugh, more wingnut nonsense. He’s saying the Goldman Sachs people question the timing. He isn’t questioning the timing himself. He’s also correct in that what they were doing might not have been illegal at the time but it probably should have been. He also say that “there was no underlying merit to their actions”. These guys were assholes.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:48:29pm |
re: #214 brookly red
probably 15 or 20 languages on my shopping strip… but everyone speaks English to do business.
I crossed a bridge too soon one night a couple years ago, and had to find my way through Astoria down to the Midtown Tunnel. The GPS started babbling half-way down.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:49:30pm |
re: #213 Racer X
Perhaps. But I’m still looking for the Goldman Sachs / Obama connection. It appears GS contributed almost a million $ to his campaign. And several key figures in his admin are former GS big whigs.
I could care less about the current immigration kerfufle. I care about who is doing what to our economy - and why.
You can take comfort in the fact that now they are giving money to the Republicans.
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:49:40pm |
re: #186 Racer X
So I heard on the radio today that there are more than several former Goldman Sachs employees employed by the Obama administration.
I did a quick google search and this came up:
Published 10-22-2008. Not sure who the author is.
That was written by some nut going by the name of Sorcha Faal.
Obama Plot To Throw Millions Of Americans From Homes Uncovered
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
It made the rounds at Infowars and Alex Jones.
Quack.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:50:48pm |
re: #221 Gus 802
That was written by some nut going by the name of Sorcha Faal.
Obama Plot To Throw Millions Of Americans From Homes Uncovered
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western SubscribersIt made the rounds at Infowars and Alex Jones.
Quack.
They are a creative lot, for sure.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:51:05pm |
re: #197 darthstar
I heard an interesting interview on NPR the other day…a father and son went to this document library in Egypt (can’t remember the name of the place off the top of my head)…documents date back over 1000 years. Most were written in Arabic. Apparently, Hebrew wasn’t the official language for Jews back then…most spoke Arabic and later a Hebrew-Arabic mix. The earliest printed Jewish song…written in Arabic. The reason this is significant is that it illustrates that Jews and Muslims used to get along to the point where they shared a common language. Maybe there’s still hope that one day they can again (get along, that is…not necessarily share a common language).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting enough to share…take it for what it’s worth.
Maimonides originally wrote “Guide to the Perplexed” in Arabic.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:51:11pm |
re: #218 Killgore Trout
Ugh, more wingnut nonsense. He’s saying the Goldman Sachs people question the timing. He isn’t questioning the timing himself. He’s also correct in that what they were doing might not have been illegal at the time but it probably should have been. He also say that “there was no underlying merit to their actions”. These guys were assholes.
These guys were assholes. How many are currently whispering in Obama’s ear? Thats what I want to know.
When the heat gets turned up all of a sudden everyone diverts their attention to the racists in Arizona, and several key aids in the white house breathe a sigh of relief. Funny.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:51:31pm |
re: #219 Decatur Deb
I crossed a bridge too soon one night a couple years ago, and had to find my way through Astoria down to the Midtown Tunnel. The GPS started babbling half-way down.
Astoria has good to be one of the most diverse neighborhoods anywhere… great food.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:51:52pm |
re: #220 Killgore Trout
You can take comfort in the fact that now they are giving money to the Republicans.
I’m certain GS gave money to both sides.
Both sides suck.
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:52:49pm |
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:54:07pm |
re: #225 brookly red
Astoria has good to be one of the most diverse neighborhoods anywhere… great food.
Last time I visited, I found this great knish place. I can’t recall the name but it really was good. I jonesed for those knishes for quite a while.
That’s one of those things grits cannot replace.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:54:54pm |
re: #220 Killgore Trout
You can take comfort in the fact that now they are giving money to the Republicans.
They just gave millions to Obama and the Dems. Have they stopped giving to the Dems and now give money to the GOP?
Just curious.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:55:03pm |
re: #221 Gus 802
That was written by some nut going by the name of Sorcha Faal.
Obama Plot To Throw Millions Of Americans From Homes Uncovered
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western SubscribersIt made the rounds at Infowars and Alex Jones.
Quack.
Interesting connections to Obama there. No wonder the GS issue quickly disappeared.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:55:40pm |
re: #228 researchok
To balance the goodness of knishes, some shlub in the Bronx invented knizza.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:55:46pm |
re: #227 Gus 802
The functionally insane.
/
I might take issue with the ‘functional’ assessment.
That site is like the asylum. Everyone is wearing a robe, slippers and is walking in counterclockwise circles.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:56:24pm |
re: #231 Decatur Deb
To balance the goodness of knishes, some shlub in the Bronx invented knizza.
For real??
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Gus Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:56:36pm |
re: #232 researchok
I might take issue with the ‘functional’ assessment.
That site is like the asylum. Everyone is wearing a robe, slippers and is walking in counterclockwise circles.
Functional within their own universe. /
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:57:06pm |
re: #228 researchok
Last time I visited, I found this great knish place. I can’t recall the name but it really was good. I jonesed for those knishes for quite a while.
That’s one of those things grits cannot replace.
here is a link to Yohan Schimmel’s… they ship FedEx
[Link: knishery.com…]
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:57:33pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:58:15pm |
re: #231 Decatur Deb
To balance the goodness of knishes, some shlub in the Bronx invented knizza.
Gawd!
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 6:58:46pm |
re: #236 brookly red
here is a link to Yohan Schimmel’s… they ship FedEx
[Link: knishery.com…]
This guy was in Queens. I’m going to see if I can find it.
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:02:29pm |
Via Huffpo:
Forget the bonuses at AIG. Chump change. Let’s put what Goldman Sachs has been up to in plain English. Goldman Sachs had made a lot of esoteric financial transactions with AIG. Banks were collapsing at the time, leaving their investors with huge losses. When things started looking shaky at AIG, Goldman and other investors started calling in their claims, and pushed AIG off the cliff.
Now ask yourself: with banks collapsing, why would you push the one you had put so much money in to collapse?
Answer: because you had your boys on the inside in Washington, that’s why. And your boys got a bail-out package for AIG which actually paid you more than your claims that broke the bank. What investors had demanded from AIG was collateral on debts. But they actually got with the bailout was the whole damn amount, 100 cents on the dollar.
To put it even more bluntly: if AIG had managed to not collapse and not require $180 billion in taxpayer money, Goldman Sachs would be sitting today with some very very shaky investments. But since AIG collapsed, the folks at Goldman cleaned up.
Or even more bluntly: Goldman used AIG as a funnel.
That’s a nice trick. It’s like two guys rolling someone on the street when the first guy comes up on the right and throws a punch after which the guy on the left quietly lifts the mark’s wallet. Of course you run the risk that the cops might see you. Then again, if you have the cops in your pocket…
OK, that is a simplification. It is not the whole story. But it is a big part of the story.
But but… wasn’t there an election between the AIG bail-out and today? The world changed, didn’t it?
Goldman Sachs employees gave just shy of a million dollars to the Obama campaign, ranking second in contributions. Citigroup and JPMorgan ranked sixth and seventh. Goldman Sachs gave Obama four times more than they gave McCain.
GS was Obama’s single largest contributer in the 2008 presidential campaign.
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:03:13pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:05:36pm |
re: #242 Racer X
Via Huffpo:
GS was Obama’s single largest contributer in the 2008 presidential campaign.
Oh my.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:07:11pm |
re: #242 Racer X
Via Huffpo:
GS was Obama’s single largest contributer in the 2008 presidential campaign.
It always comes down to following the money, doesn’t it?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:08:37pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:11:12pm |
re: #242 Racer X
Via Huffpo:
GS was Obama’s single largest contributer in the 2008 presidential campaign.
And this proves nothing… does it.
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Mich-again Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:14:43pm |
Joe Biden coined a new phrase last week and I missed it..
Last week, Vice President Biden voiced confidence that the United States would secure passage of a sanctions resolution by next week. “I believe you will see a sanction regime coming out by the end of this month, beginning of next month,” Biden said Thursday on ABC’s “The View” talk show.
ooohh. A sanction regime. Nothing strikes fear in the hearts of the Mullahs like the threat of a sanction regime.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:15:01pm |
re: #236 brookly red
here is a link to Yohan Schimmel’s… they ship FedEx
[Link: knishery.com…]
re: #236 brookly red
here is a link to Yohan Schimmel’s… they ship FedEx
[Link: knishery.com…]
I wonder how fresh they’d be coming as far as Lower Alabama. Will check.
Here’s a comment from earlier that shows how deli-bummed we are.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:15:46pm |
re: #249 Mich-again
So you’re for attacking Iran outright?
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:17:27pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
It needs to be noted that of those four countries, only Switzerland does not have serious problems with its different linguistic groups, though Canada’s are handled safely through the political process. Belgium has two ethnic groups that hate each other and it may yet split in two. Israeli Arabs have a serious problem with terrorist sympathies.
The problems you point out have pretty much all been caused by ridiculous attempts at de jure language regions with imposed and clearly defined borders. That’s not how we have ever worked. The different burroughs and neighborhoods of our cities have evolved from the ethnic identities of the immigrants that populate and pass through them, but the borders are always de facto and organic, a reflection of the people who live there.
There is a long, unbroken history of people speaking Spanish here in Saint Babs since before there was a Constitution of the United States. I used to live on Chino in the West Side, I never learned much Spanish and didn’t feel the need because being polite and refusing to get frustrated by a language barrier is all anybody really needs in this country.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:19:47pm |
re: #252 goddamnedfrank
The problems you point out have pretty much all been caused by ridiculous attempts at de jure language regions with imposed and clearly defined borders. That’s not how we have ever worked. The different burroughs and neighborhoods of our cities have evolved from the ethnic identities of the immigrants that populate and pass through them, but the borders are always de facto and organic, a reflection of the people who live there.
There is a long, unbroken history of people speaking Spanish here in Saint Babs since before there was a Constitution of the United States. I used to live on Chino in the West Side, I never learned much Spanish and didn’t feel the need because being polite and refusing to get frustrated by a language barrier is all anybody really needs in this country.
Point taken. You are correct that our experience has been different and your explanation of Belgium rings true.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:21:36pm |
re: #176 jaunte
That’s what comes of having too many knife blades available.
A trained Swiss mercenary can spoon a man to death in under an hour.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:22:02pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
A trained Swiss mercenary can spoon a man to death in under an hour.
It hurts more that way.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:23:34pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
The ‘Swiss Spooning’ exhibit was closed at Madame Tussaud’s because of popular revulsion.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:24:22pm |
re: #251 windsagio
So you’re for attacking Iran outright?
Attacking Iran vs a nuclear Iran. What do you think is the best thing for the Israelis & the entire world?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:24:31pm |
re: #184 Dark_Falcon
It needs to be noted that of those four countries, only Switzerland does not have serious problems with its different linguistic groups, though Canada’s are handled safely through the political process. Belgium has two ethnic groups that hate each other and it may yet split in two. Israeli Arabs have a serious problem with terrorist sympathies.
Israeli Arabs, though, have by and large been the least of Israel’s problems.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:25:59pm |
re: #257 NJDhockeyfan
that’s not an answer to my question, now is it :P
Just let me know if you guys aren’t willing to answer, and if you cop to it I”ll tell you what I think. Not before though >>
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:27:27pm |
re: #197 darthstar
I heard an interesting interview on NPR the other day…a father and son went to this document library in Egypt (can’t remember the name of the place off the top of my head)…documents date back over 1000 years. Most were written in Arabic. Apparently, Hebrew wasn’t the official language for Jews back then…most spoke Arabic and later a Hebrew-Arabic mix. The earliest printed Jewish song…written in Arabic. The reason this is significant is that it illustrates that Jews and Muslims used to get along to the point where they shared a common language. Maybe there’s still hope that one day they can again (get along, that is…not necessarily share a common language).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting enough to share…take it for what it’s worth.
Jews in the Arab world spoke Arabic, and Judeo-Arabic, for centuries. Still do. A friend of mine grew up in an Iraqi Jewish family. The seder used to be in two languages—Hebrew, and then everything over again in Arabic so the women would understand. Now, apparently, they do it in three languages, Hebrew, Arabic, and then all over again in English so the kids will understand.
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Mich-again Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:28:27pm |
re: #251 windsagio
So you’re for attacking Iran outright?
No, but I seriously doubt whether there will actually be any new sanctions agreed to in that timeframe. Even if so, they won’t work as advertised. Too many ways for too many scoundrels to cheat in the big pea and shell game.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:29:10pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:29:11pm |
re: #223 Alouette
Maimonides originally wrote “Guide to the Perplexed” in Arabic.
Because if you were perplexed, that was bad enough without making you also read in Hebrew.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:29:47pm |
re: #260 SanFranciscoZionist
Where was Hebrew preserved then, Europe?
(altho I guess that would be the only place)
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:34:13pm |
re: #259 windsagio
that’s not an answer to my question, now is it :P
Just let me know if you guys aren’t willing to answer, and if you cop to it I”ll tell you what I think. Not before though >>
I’m not afraid to answer that. I’m all for it. Not that I think we will but surely Israel will not let Iran get the bomb. It is a matter of survival for them.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:35:35pm |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Fair enough;
I think attacking them would be a mistake, as it would give the Mullahs the boost they need to take control.
What Israel does is their own business, but I trust they can handle it if worse comes to worse >>
(and better them than us, Mossadeq, etc)
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Racer X Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:37:00pm |
re: #248 Walter L. Newton
And this proves nothing… does it.
It proves Obama is a politician just like all the rest. He’s got something he does not want you to know.
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Mich-again Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:37:26pm |
re: #262 windsagio
The UN’s “crude for food” enterprise with Saddam Hussein was a good example of a UN “sanctions regime”. Except for the part about rampant bribery of UN diplomats and the fact that Saddam still had the cash flow, which he apparently spent on drugs and hookers.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:38:42pm |
re: #268 Mich-again
You know how it is, (and sorry for everyone else for going over the old territory). Whatever the UN did, it sure kept him from getting more WMD’s >>
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:39:09pm |
re: #267 Racer X
Also, I bet they’re pissed about the ROI on that one >>
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researchok Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:39:52pm |
re: #250 Decatur Deb
I wonder how fresh they’d be coming as far as Lower Alabama. Will check.
Here’s a comment from earlier that shows how deli-bummed we are.[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
So sad.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:40:21pm |
re: #264 windsagio
Where was Hebrew preserved then, Europe?
(altho I guess that would be the only place)
No, Hebrew was preserved in all Jewish communities (except for the Ethiopians, who substituted Ge’ez) as a liturgical and literary language, and a cross-cultural communication tool. Like Latin in the western Christian world, but with a much higher literacy rate. A rabbi in Germany could write a letter in Hebrew to a sage in Egypt and get a response.
It was the daily language of home and commerce that varied wildly. Yiddish began as a dialect of medieval German, and evolved into a full-blown language of its own which was spoken across most of Central and Eastern Europe. Jewish subdialects of French and Italian evolved, as did Ladino, which was spoken by Spanish Jews and carried with them to places like Turkey and Holland. Arabic was the language of a huge portion of the Jewish world, and Persian Jews spoke Farsi.
The revival of Hebrew as a spoken daily language coincided with Zionism, and was a late nineteenth century phenomenon, spurred on by the dedicated and utterly freaking nuts Eleazar Ben Yehuda.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:41:40pm |
re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist
Thank you, very informative answer :D
Yeah my next question was yiddish, but you covered it >>
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Mich-again Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:46:26pm |
re: #269 windsagio
Easy to say that now, but what if he was still in power and we were still playing cat and mouse in the no-fly zone and he was still entrenched in power, cutting deals and skimming oil profits to fund weapons development? He wasn’t going away on his own, at least not until Uday and Qusay took over. I don’t think you can say the sanctions leading up to the Iraq war had ended and prevented any further WMD development. Which is not to say the intelligence about the status of those programs leading up the war were accurate.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:46:37pm |
re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist
There seems to be another “Ladino”, a small enclave speaking a Latin descendant far up in the north-eastern Italian mountains.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:48:33pm |
re: #274 Mich-again
I’m not gonna get into this argument, because its a whole bunch of ‘what-ifs’, and neither of us really know.
Also its essentially arguing the justification for the War in Iraq, and that is like beating the dust that used to be a skeleton that used to be a dead horse.
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