Incredible Bassist Adam Ben Ezra: Flamenco - Double Bass Solo

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I’m proud to share with you my brand new work: FLAMENCO. This time I took it to the next step (literally) and added some flamenco dance moves to the composition. Check it out, let me know your thoughts, and if you liked it - do SHARE ;) Thanks.

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419 comments
1 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 11:29:14am

Beautiful.

2 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:56:43pm

Fake. Clearly this is completely photoshopped.

3 b_sharp  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:50:24pm

I listened to this earlier. I’ve always loved Flamenco.

4 erik_t  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:54:01pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Fake. Clearly this is completely photoshopped.

I can tell from the pixels, and from having seen a number of photoshops in my time.

5 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:54:52pm

re: #4 erik_t

I can tell from the pixels, and from having seen a number of photoshops in my time.

Globular clusters and infrared analysis of the layers tells all.

6 Usually refered to as anyways  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:56:16pm

You can clearly see around the two minute mark there were two of him!

7 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:00:48pm
9 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:07:54pm
10 chadu  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:10:48pm

I was wondering if there was extra foley done here by others, but after seeing the duplication Usually refered to as anyways saw, I’m just gonna assume he did his own foot-stomp and clapping foley.

11 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:17:34pm
12 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:21:12pm

i play pink flamingo guitar with the other dodos and boobies

13 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:22:48pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Fake. Clearly this is completely photoshopped.

No globular clusters

14 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:28:31pm

Four states considering laws that challenge the teaching of evolution

“Taking it at face value they sound innocuous and lovely: critical thinking, debate and analysis. It seems so innocent, so pure. But they chose to question only areas that religious conservatives are uncomfortable with. There is a religious agenda here,” said Josh Rosenau, an NCSE program and policy director.

The laws can have a direct impact on a state. In Louisiana some 78 Nobel laureate scientists have endorsed the repeal of the creationist education law there. The Society of Integrative and Comparative Biology has even launched a boycott of Louisiana and cancelled a scheduled convention in New Orleans. Louisiana native and prominent anti-creationist campaigner in the state Zack Kopplin said that those pushing such bills in other states were risking similar economic damage to their local economies. “It will hurt economic development,” Kopplin said.

There is also the impact on students, he added, when they are taught controversies in subjects where the overwhelming majority of scientists have long ago reached consensus agreement. “It really hurts students. It can be embarrassing to be from a state which has become a laughing stock in this area,” Kopplin said. Others experts agreed, arguing that it could even hurt future job prospects for students graduating from those states’ public high schools. “The jobs of the future are high tech and science-orientated. These lawmakers are making it harder for some of these kids to get those jobs,” said Boston.

15 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:28:38pm

tributing

don’t verb me, bro

16 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:32:37pm
17 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:35:01pm

Every time I think I’m done with Skyrim, it sucks me back in.

18 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:36:11pm

That was really good. I kinda miss the dog from the other video, though.

(That is the guy who had the dog in his video, isn’t it?)

19 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:37:43pm

re: #16 Gus

As long as they don’t lipsync it…

20 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:38:58pm

re: #17 Kragar

Every time I think I’m done with Skyrim, it sucks me back in.

I could take care of that for you. But you’ll have to cover the medical costs of an arrow to the knee.

//

21 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:39:05pm

Some how I ended up on an Orly Taitz mailing list

22 jaunte  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:43:04pm

re: #21 Kragar

Chinese hackers with a sense of the absurd.

23 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:44:01pm

re: #22 jaunte

Chinese hackers with a sense of the absurd.

I’m assured Orly is just one court hearing away from tearing down the entire Obama presidency.

24 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:45:51pm

re: #23 Kragar

I’m assured Orly is just one court hearing away from tearing down the entire Obama presidency.

A hearing scheduled for the first Tuesday that comes at the end of the week. ;)

25 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:46:09pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

As long as they don’t lipsync it…

Yeah. I try not to be so cynical all the time.

26 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:46:31pm

re: #23 Kragar

I’m assured Orly is just one court hearing away from tearing down the entire Obama presidency.

Just as I’m only one lottery ticket away from early retirement.

//

27 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:57:24pm
28 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:59:16pm

Boom.

29 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:00:16pm

re: #11 Gus

Thanks. Just put this on. Makes me feel like I’m in a Parisian night club in the 30’s. I’ve heard a little Mark O’Connor since he was on a Sharon Isbin CD I heard and I like Django Reinhardt a ton too.

30 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:01:42pm

Tonight’s 40k trivia:

Death Korps of Krieg

The Death Korps of Krieg is the name given to all of the Imperial Guard regiments that originate from the devastated, post-nuclear Death World of Krieg in the Segmentum Tempestus. Krieg was the site of a rebellion against the Imperium of Man over 1,500 standard years ago in the 40th Millennium and was bombarded with nuclear weapons followed by five hundred years of grinding warfare to purge the heretical rebels. After all those years of nuclear destruction and bitter trench warfare, Krieg was reduced to a scorched, radioactive husk of a world composed of dust and mud whose surviving people were forced to retreat into underground hive cities to survive the toxic planetary environment. The Death Korps of Krieg is a siege specialist regiment of the Imperial Guard and the regiments raised on Krieg seek to repent for their former treachery against the Imperium by displaying a disturbing disregard for their own lives in combat. Death Korps troops excel at wars of attrition and defensive combat in particular.

Castigation of Derondis (936-946.M41) - The Hive World of Derondis withheld its annual tithes and regiments of Krieg’s Death Korps were deployed to act as the honour guard of the Departmento Munitorum investigation team. After the Imperium officials were hanged by the rebellious populace, the Krieg troops redeployed into the towering mountains that overlooked the primary hive city. Several artillery and siege companies began to bombard the city spires and the inhabitants were mercilessly gunned down as they tried to break out from the besieged city. After ten standard years of relentless shelling, the hive was reduced to naught but rubble and dust, two years after all signs of life from the hive had already ceased and five years after the hive had plantively issued its unconditional surrender.

Image: death_korps__of_krieg_by_wolfwing9115-d3ipj2h.jpg

31 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:02:22pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Just put this on. Makes me feel like I’m in a Parisian night club in the 30’s. I’ve heard a little Mark O’Connor since he was on a Sharon Isbin CD I heard and I like Django Reinhardt a ton too.

Always loved it. Saw Stephane Grappelli around 1990. Too awesome for words.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:04:40pm

re: #31 Gus

Always loved it. Saw Stephane Grappelli around 1990. Too awesome for words.

I bet. As great as this stuff sounds coming from my computer, I bet it’s even more awesome live.

33 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:11:53pm

Anyhow since we are in a music night. Here’s my contribution.


I discovered these dudes by total accident since they were on a Paste Magazine sampler a few years back but I used to study their music often when I was in college. Makes me wish I were back in Galway enjoying a Guinness while enjoying the company of friends.
34 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:15:27pm

Orks meet Transformers

Image: OrktimusPrimeOpen.jpg

35 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:17:30pm

re: #34 Kragar

Orks meet Transformers

Image: OrktimusPrimeOpen.jpg

Moar dakka!

36 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:27:26pm
37 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:28:27pm

re: #36 Gus

To the IPA mobile!

38 freetoken  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:28:42pm

Deep into researching and correcting some of my genealogy… my mother’s side… and what I notice is how disruptive the move to North America in colonial times was for family histories.

Tracing back ancestry in this country is pretty straightforward through the 1850 census, and even before then the older states had ways of recording vital data. Back around the time of the first census (1790) paths start to break down. The big gap, once bridged, from 1850 back to the Revolutionary war, gives way to immigration stories. For those of us with a Colonial past the good news is if you can find someone from New England, as the historical societies up there have been relentlessly researching this stuff for a century, all to prove the elusive claim that one’s ancestors was on the Mayflower.

For those of us with a European ancestry I’m noticing quite a range of quality in the recording of the past. This has driven home to me the idea of a “name” and exactly what one name is supposed to mean, and why it was important to pass it on.

Also, the impact of illiteracy gets felt very quickly once one goes before the 20th century. I doubt if our goal of universal education and literacy is adequately appreciated by most people today.

And speak of appreciating new things… in the censuses of the before universal suffrage the census takers had to record who in the household had a voting franchise - often just the male head. Back then voting meant something more to people, I think, then it does today. I wonder, when I see the low voter turnouts that we have in most elections, if voting rights were taking away from a majority of Americans would they miss them?

39 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:29:42pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

To the IPA mobile!

The Republic has been saved. Whew. So goofy.

40 Mich-again  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:31:55pm

re: #36 Gus

Hey watch it there.. Budweiser is my beer of choice. All y’all can brag about your $10 six packs of micro-brew with the catchy name from wherever that’s been sitting in the cooler for god knows how long. I always just ask for a cold fresh Budweiser.

41 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:32:13pm

Chris Rodda shovels out the Augean Stables of David Barton’s breathtaking dishonesty so that you don’t have to.

42 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:33:55pm

re: #40 Mich-again

Hey watch it there.. Budweiser is my beer of choice. All y’all can brag about your $10 six packs of micro-brew with the catchy name from wherever that’s been sitting in the cooler for god knows how long. I always just ask for a cold fresh Budweiser.

At least it’s not Miller.

43 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:34:06pm

re: #40 Mich-again

Hey watch it there.. Budweiser is my beer of choice. All y’all can brag about your $10 six packs of micro-brew with the catchy name from wherever that’s been sitting in the cooler for god knows how long. I always just ask for a cold fresh Budweiser.

As long as you’re not drinking Natty Light. Don’t know how my dad drank that stuff. I don’t mind going cheap. I like a Bud occasionally too but Dogfish just hits the spot some time even if you can get two or even three Buds for the same price at the bar.

44 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:34:24pm

Just Another Day in America

Prosecutor shot down in the street in Texas by two men in tactical vests who get away. And another school shooting, this time in Atlanta. School in lockdown. A little more here. Some sources says student seriously hurt, other injured was a teacher who suffered cuts and bruises. Something of an update here—appears not to be a mass shooting. Return here for updates.

Saw this today. I was beyond words and waiting for my x-ray results.

We live in a weird country.

45 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:35:45pm

Here’s some Django. Apologies that there’s no real video accompanying but I imagine live footage of him is hard to find.
46 Mich-again  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:37:23pm

re: #44 Gus

Just Another Day in America

Saw this today. I was beyond words and waiting for my x-ray results.

We live in a weird country.

While the NRA talks hypothetically about needing guns to oppose “tyranny” some people look around and see that “tyranny” is already here, so they feel perfectly justified using their firearms to fight it. What defines tyranny? depends on who you ask and when you ask them.

47 freetoken  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:38:15pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

On that video, like on the one kicking of this thread, I get the Youtube adverts popping up as usual, but all wingnuttia in flavor. “Should Obama Be Impeached?” this time. Before it was something about Obama taking your guns away.

Youtube has to be paid to put these adverts on. So who is paying for these ads?

48 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:39:19pm

re: #47 freetoken

On that video, like on the one kicking of this thread, I get the Youtube adverts popping up as usual, but all wingnuttia in flavor. “Should Obama Be Impeached?” this time. Before it was something about Obama taking your guns away.

Youtube has to be paid to put these adverts on. So who is paying for these ads?

No idea. Sucks.

49 freetoken  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:42:05pm

One nice thing about embedded mp3 links (besides the better sound quality) is no wingnut adverts… in fact, no adverts at all:

50 Gus  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:45:15pm

re: #49 freetoken

One nice thing about embedded mp3 links (besides the better sound quality) is no wingnut adverts… in fact, no adverts at all:

[Embedded content]

Dean Martin.

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:46:56pm

re: #49 freetoken

One nice thing about embedded mp3 links (besides the better sound quality) is no wingnut adverts… in fact, no adverts at all:

[Embedded content]

Thanks on both counts. Enjoying the tune and appreciate the heads up.

52 freetoken  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:48:49pm
53 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:57:13pm

So, I didn’t work on a bumper sticker. I did the T-shirt for annual MS Walk, in which our family participates. What do you think?

54 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:00:08pm

re: #53 FemNaziBitch

So, I didn’t work on a bumper sticker. I did the T-shirt for annual MS Walk, in which our family participates. What do you think?

Yeah!

55 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:04:12pm

re: #44 Gus

Just Another Day in America

Saw this today. I was beyond words and waiting for my x-ray results.

We live in a weird country.

NRA —the nutty types are doing a good enough job of convincing people that gun-control is necessary. Really no reason for anyone to argue the point.

56 chadu  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:06:47pm

re: #38 freetoken

For those of us with a European ancestry I’m noticing quite a range of quality in the recording of the past. This has driven home to me the idea of a “name” and exactly what one name is supposed to mean, and why it was important to pass it on.

I dig. Through the efforts of a distant cousin, either my paternal family (Underkoffler) got here in 1768 or 1778. Records suck.

I think my maternal family (La Salvia) got here in 1890ish. No records, and the damned acculturation means I’ll probably never know. (An Italian family who gives up making their own pasta and sauce in roughly 1954 in favor of pre-made pasta and Ragu. Oy fucking veh!)

The paternal-maternal (GGP Klinger) and the maternal-maternal (GGP Insana) — that is, great-grandfathers’ — families both got here in 1903, which is a giant freaking coincidence, coming from Sicily and Slovakia. Who knew?

57 chadu  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:10:42pm

re: #50 Gus

Dean Martin.

More: Dean Martin & Frank Sinatra - Marshmallow World

Wait to see Dino flub!

58 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:11:21pm

My mother’s cousin did ton’s of research in the ‘70’s and 80’s eventually finding our lost relatives in Germany and joining the family trees. They came over and we had our first and only family reunion.

IT took two trips to Bavaria to do it. He found people who let him copy their “pedigree” books from Nazi times and searched thru grave yards. Eventually, he accidentally parked in a reserved parking place and the owner was our relative.

It was his retirement project. It wasn’t as difficult as it is for some people because the family has pretty much stayed around and in the little town our ancestor that emigrated from Germany settled in. His grave and stuff are still there.

59 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:18:13pm

Tried to find relatives when I was in Ireland. My grandmother’s maiden name isn’t too common but the only people I found with the name were far away from where I was studying. Her mother’s maiden name is much more common and it would have been a circus trying to contact those people. Now on the bright side, I did get a history of her maiden name for free which was awesome. Haven’t really bothered looking on my mom’s/Eastern European side of the family since there are so many different spellings and the translating would be tough. Plus I don’t even know where they came from in those countries. I know that there are some relatives still left since my great aunt apparently visited some of them while she was in college in the late 50’s but she died before I got into this stuff and I have no idea who on that side of the family I’d talk to if I wanted more info since that side of the family isn’t as tightly knit as my Dad’s side.

60 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:18:18pm
61 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:19:49pm

bbl

63 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 12:05:51am

re: #38 freetoken

The family story I was told is that one of my ancestors was a big hero in the Austrian army, and as a reward for his service, was granted a stipend to send his descendants to school, a big deal back there and then.

But grandma Reba did not want to go to school. They told her that if she did not go to school, they would marry her off to some guy in Cleveland, Ohio.

She still refused to go to school and they put her on the boat in 1912.

64 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 12:47:52am

Republican Montana state rep wants ‘corporal punishment’ for offenders

A Montana Republican state lawmaker wants to give criminals the option of choosing “corporal punishment in lieu of incarceration.” According to Think Progress, the legislation is being proposed by Rep. Jerry O’Neil and would apply not just to misdemeanor crimes, but to some felonies as well.

The law states that “(f)or purposes of this section, ‘corporal punishment’ means the infliction of physical pain on a defendant to carry out the sentence negotiated between the judge and the defendant.” The law states that the exact nature of that pain shall be “commensurate with the severity, nature, and degree of the harm caused by the offender.”

The proposed law stipulates that the punishment shall be carried out by local sheriffs if the defendant is avoiding jail time or corrections personnel if the defendant is choosing the option to stay out of state prison.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 12:53:49am

re: #64 Kragar

Republican Montana state rep wants ‘corporal punishment’ for offenders

There is no arguing with these people, let us just continue to get the word out, the GOP is the party of corporal punishment, gerrymandering, homophobia, misogyny, creationism, invasive ultrasound and “legitimate rape”.

66 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 2:02:58am

NRO sinks to a new low.

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.”

Un fucking believable. I know the assholes at NRO define themselves entirely by the need to be in constant opposition to Obama … but goddamn.

67 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 2:11:05am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

NRO sinks to a new low.

Un fucking believable. I know the assholes at NRO define themselves entirely by the need to be in constant opposition to Obama … but goddamn.

I read the article before commenting to make sure there was no context that made their statements less ridiculous.

There wasn’t. The Nazis did have an appeal to a lot of Germans at the time, and not every single thing they did (Autobahns, paid vacations, package tours for the working classes) was completely evil, but WTF?

I mean WTFittyFingF?

68 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:30:44am

I hadn’t seen this before.

One of Terry Jones’ supporters is a fake navy SEAL.

69 Obdicut  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:41:26am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I just read the article and I have no clue. Just none. What the fuck. I thought maybe the quote was out of context, because even for NRO… jesus.

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

What she is really, really saying is that the assertion that “new Jew can be a member of the race” is not senseless. It is. It is senseless in that races do not exist, it is senseless in that there is nothing to be gained and everything lost from attempts at racial division and so it is foolish, and it is senseless in the old term meaning that it is without compassion or empathy.

I have no idea what meaning she’s trying to construct for ‘senseless’ here. What she’s clearly trying to say is that Obama, by calling the violence ‘senseless’, is ignoring the Nazis philosophical and political groundwork for their ideology and that this is dangerous. It’s obvious that Obama is not doing that. Obama said “Those who experienced the horrors of the cattle cars, ghettos, and concentration camps have witnessed humanity at its very worst and know too well the pain of losing loved ones to senseless violence.” He was very clearly saying that the violence of the camps, of the Holocaust, was senseless.

The author is saying it wasn’t, that it made sense to murder Jews even while it detracted from the war effort.

NRO reaches a new low, still descending.

70 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:47:56am

re: #69 Obdicut

Obama was saying that the Holocaust was bad. NRO is taking his arguments apart because, well, Hitler was a socialist, too!!!

Or something.

71 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:49:53am

Explosion outside of the U.S. Embassy in Ankara, Turkey; I paged it here.

72 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:54:59am

Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch has died of congestive heart failure, spokesman says. He was 88.

73 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 3:56:41am

re: #72 Varek Raith

Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch has died of congestive heart failure, spokesman says. He was 88.

In and out of the hospital for awhile

74 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 4:44:34am

re: #72 Varek Raith

Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch has died of congestive heart failure, spokesman says. He was 88.

Very sorry to hear that. My dad passed away of congestive heart failure.

75 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 4:45:29am

Shuttle Columbia disaster 10 years ago today.

76 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:13:26am

Okay. so my sister, 6 years older than me, just sent me a FaceBook request to “add” my birthday to her calender!

We’ve ‘known” each other for 59 years now. Ya think she would know, no !?!?!

//

77 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:14:12am

Good morning Lizards!

A bit cold and dreery today in Philadelphia.

Morning will be spent testing videoconference room connections between here and a few locations in Germany. Sure to be lots of fun since these rooms have been problematic at times since installation due to equipment failures, network bandwidth issues affecting signal quality, training issue, and dealing with multiple languages when troubleshooting issues. (English, Portuguese, German, and I only speak one of them half fluently.)

All this may be a blessing since it is already looking like a day that is going to have a pile of bad news in it.

On the lighter side, I got up today and found a mini Occupy movement. Both cats were lying in the shower stall for some odd reason. Must have been some sort of anti-water waste protest. (Water is for Drinking. Tongues are for Cleaning!) ;)

78 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:15:44am

re: #76 sattv4u2

Okay. so my sister, 6 years older than me, just sent me a FaceBook request to “add” my birthday to her calender!

We’ve ‘known” each other for 59 years now. Ya think she would know, no !?!?!

//

Hey if she needs a reminder to send you a present, what’s wrong with that?

I always send my sister a virtual cake on her FB wall every year. Other than that, we have nothing to do with each other.

79 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:17:48am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Shuttle Columbia disaster 10 years ago today.

Thanks for the reminder.

80 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:18:32am

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

Hey if she needs a reminder to send you a present, what’s wrong with that?

I always send my sister a virtual cake on her FB wall every year. Other than that, we have nothing to do with each other.

Nahh ,, we gave up the exchanging gifts stuff once she had her daughter (and later, us our son) We’ve always been cordial but never really close, so neither of us knew what to get each other, so we decided to put the focus on (my) niece and (her) nephew, seeing we each only had one child

81 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:18:33am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Republican Montana state rep wants ‘corporal punishment’ for offenders

Fucking perverts. Simple as that.

82 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:21:05am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Fucking perverts. Simple as that.

Actually (corporal punishment in lieu of incarceration) it would be kind of fascinating to see what percentage of those opt for a few whacks on the butt instead of a 10x10 cell for years

And no, I am not condoning nor advocating corporal punishment

83 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:25:14am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Fucking perverts. Simple as that.

I can see two logic chains leading to this:
1. They think that by substituting physical punishment and release they save money on incarceration; e.g. “If we beat them then we don’t have to worry about them being parasites and getting arrested for free room and board.”

2. They believe that infliction of physical pain is better aversion therapy for crime than incarceration. Which essentially is following a assumption that criminal punishment is simply punishment and not in any way an attempt at rehabilitation.

In any case I suspect the consequences of the proposal being adopted have not been thought through. And that is not even starting to address the psychological issues.

84 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:27:05am

re: #83 Feline Fearless Leader

I can see two logic chains leading to this:
1. They think that by substituting physical punishment and release they save money on incarceration; e.g. “If we beat them then we don’t have to worry about them being parasites and getting arrested for free room and board.”

2. They believe that infliction of physical pain is better aversion therapy for crime than incarceration. Which essentially is following a assumption that criminal punishment is simply punishment and not in any way an attempt at rehabilitation.

In any case I suspect the consequences of the proposal being adopted have not been thought through. And that is not even starting to address the psychological issues.

SINGAPORE HAZ NO CRIME!1!

85 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:30:26am

re: #83 Feline Fearless Leader

In any case I suspect the consequences of the proposal being adopted have not been thought through. And that is not even starting to address the psychological issues.

Considering the vagueness of the proposal (it doesn’t define what sorts of ‘corporal punishment’), it’s unlikely to be signed into law anyhow. If it somehow does get signed into law, it will likely be challenged immediately in federal court for its constitutionality because it seems to challenge the 8th amendment.

86 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:33:08am

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

Sending some of these folks over there to live in Singapore for a period of time would be interesting. They might learn something about cities, population densities, and the scope of law enforcement. However, they might learn some lessons that would not reflect well if enacted in the United States.

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:42:15am

re: #85 Dr. Matt

Considering the vagueness of the proposal (it doesn’t define what sorts of ‘corporal punishment’), it’s unlikely to be signed into law anyhow. If it somehow does get signed into law, it will likely be challenged immediately in federal court for its constitutionality because it seems to challenge the 8th amendment.

Interesting.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

And Jackson vs Bishop decision was a specific case involving corporal punishment in a state prison system.

I suspect that the legislator who put up the bill was not familiar with the applicable case law. And a few minutes in Google looking up the 8th Amendment finds you a lot of information indicating that such a bill would need a lot more thought. Of course, this could also just be grandstanding for his electoral base, in which case he is just wasting legislative time for whatever committee ends up ignoring the bill.

88 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5:50:02am

Tonight, Braised Lamb Shanks with Fennel and Baby Potatoes with three other wonderful couples
[Link: shine.yahoo.com…]

I supply the main course, couple # 1 brings the appetizers, couple #2 the wine and salad and couple #3 the dessert!!

89 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:05:11am

Good morning! I’ve always wanted to buy text expander software for my computer but have never gotten around to it. What drove me to buy one today? The fact that it’s cumbersome to type out the wingnut code on LGF (square brackets don’t come naturally to me, I always start typing angle brackets).

So now I type ‘wn’ and voila:

Benghazi!

90 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:15:35am

re: #72 Varek Raith

I’d met him a few times before. Always gracious and quick with a quip or two.

He was a towering figure in NYC politics and helped steward the city following the fiscal disaster of the 1970s. He began the arduous task of revitalizing the city, but was always cognizant that he answered to the voters. “How’m I doing” wasn’t just a catch phrase. He really did want to know what people thought of him and the job he was doing.

And no matter what you thought of him or his politics, you could never say that he didn’t love the City.

91 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:21:19am

Apparently, Obama didn’t order any of the drone strikes the moonbats hate him for. And OBL is still alive.

You know, because POTUS hasn’t done anything but “tolerate” terrorism.

92 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:22:22am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos!

93 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:24:24am

re: #91 Lidane

Apparently, Obama didn’t order any of the drone strikes the moonbats hate him for. And OBL is still alive.

You know, because POTUS hasn’t done anything but “tolerate” terrorism.

TGDN has done nothing other than hate on Obama.

94 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:25:22am

Monthly unemployment figures out, and the rate ticked back up to 7.9% as 159k joined the ranks of the employed. The number would have been better if governments (fed/state/local) hadn’t shed another 9,000 jobs.

The BLS also revised upwards the November and December figures, but all the focus from the right is that the U3 rate rose but it’s interesting that the U6 rate didn’t.

It also marks yet another consecutive month of job gains (though not nearly as strong enough to really bring down the unemployment rates).

95 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:28:53am

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

TGDN has done nothing other than hate on Obama.

I think it’s clear that, as another poster has said here, TGDN stands for “That God-Damned Negro.” I may be mistaken about “Negro.” It may be worse.

96 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:29:26am

Laser-like focus on jobs and the economy:

97 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:29:37am

re: #95 JeffFX

I think it’s clear that, as another poster has said here, TGDN stands for “That God-Damned Negro.” I may be mistaken about “Negro.” It may be worse.

It is worse.

98 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:34:18am

re: #87 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course, this could also just be grandstanding for his electoral base, in which case he is just wasting legislative time for whatever committee ends up ignoring the bill.

Bingo

99 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:34:33am
100 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:34:41am

Prosecutors are still trying to figure out who was behind the ambush assassination of a Texas prosecutor, and one of his recent cases stands out for who was the focus:

The prosecutor, Mark E. Hasse, worked in the Kaufman County district attorney’s office in Kaufman, a town of 6,800 people about 35 miles from Dallas. He was shot several times shortly before 9 a.m. as he walked in an employee parking lot about a block from the courthouse.

The authorities said the suspect or suspects got out of a Ford Taurus, opened fire on Mr. Hasse and then returned to the car and drove away. Investigators were trying to determine why Mr. Hasse was targeted and if the shooting had anything to do with cases he had prosecuted.

“I’ve been doing this 43 years, and I’ve never seen anything like this,” said David A. Byrnes, the Kaufman County sheriff.

Mr. Hasse, 57, was the county’s lead felony prosecutor and a well-respected assistant district attorney. He received his law degree from Southern Methodist University in Dallas and in the 1980s served as a prosecutor in the Dallas County district attorney’s office, where he had been the chief of the organized-crime section.

Kaufman County prosecutors have been involved in investigations of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas prison gang. In November, federal officials in Houston thanked a number of local agencies for their work — including Kaufman County prosecutors — when more than 30 senior leaders and other members of the gang were indicted on federal racketeering charges.

Officials said they were reviewing Mr. Hasse’s current cases — as many as 400 of them — and previous ones for leads.

Lawyers and prosecutors throughout North Texas were stunned by the attack. The Dallas County district attorney, Craig Watkins, sent an e-mail encouraging his employees to exercise caution.

The SPLC notes that the Aryan Brotherhood in Prison is one of the largest and most dangerous gangs operating in prisons across the nation. But it’s not a hate group in the traditional sense either, as they’ll do business with whoever they think will help them gain power, even if means working with the likes of Mexican drug cartels.

101 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:36:15am

What right-wing racism?

102 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:38:05am
103 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:40:23am

Updates on the Ankara bombing.

A suicide bomber got as far as the screening area when he blew up. At least 3 dead.

104 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:41:13am

re: #99 Lidane

105 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:44:20am

re: #104 Lidane

Has it ever happened that a stay-at-home mom had to fight off a mob of swarming gangbanger home invaders with an AR-15? In actual real life, and the mom was not a drug dealer or a meth cooker?

106 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:45:36am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

Haas it ever happened that a stay-at-home mom had to fight off a mob of swarming gangbanger home invaders with an AR-15? In actual real life, and the mom was not a drug dealer or a meth cooker?

I was going to say yes, but then noticed your qualifier in bold :)

107 The Spectre of the Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:47:56am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

Has it ever happened that a stay-at-home mom had to fight off a mob of swarming gangbanger home invaders with an AR-15? In actual real life, and the mom was not a drug dealer or a meth cooker?

Nobody ever wants to answer the question about what kind of gun you get to defend against your husband and his gun.

108 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:54:18am

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

Nobody ever wants to answer the question about what kind of gun you get to defend against your husband and his gun.

Damn straight. If Ms. Trotter wants to cut down on violence against women, she could start by taking a look at which political parties, down the years, have implemented changes that have improved the the situation of the fairer sex.

Here’s a hint: it ain’t the right-wing ones.

109 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 6:59:45am

re: #103 lawhawk

Updates on the Ankara bombing.

A suicide bomber got as far as the screening area when he blew up. At least 3 dead.

Horrible that three died, but congrats to the security personnel for stopping a greater tragedy. If the security people died stopping this monster, they’re all heroes.

110 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:05:55am

re: #12 engineer cat

i play pink flamingo guitar with the other dodos and boobies

I love boobies.

111 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:08:53am

re: #91 Lidane

Apparently, Obama didn’t order any of the drone strikes the moonbats hate him for. And OBL is still alive.

You know, because POTUS hasn’t done anything but “tolerate” terrorism.

Osama was unavailable for comment.

112 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:15:10am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Fucking perverts. Simple as that.

From earlier in the thread: there is no arguing with these people, we just have to keep getting the word out that the GOP is the party of corporal punishment, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny, religious fundamentalism and gun fetishism.

113 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:15:45am

re: #111 Varek Raith

114 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:17:03am

re: #38 freetoken

Deep into researching and correcting some of my genealogy… my mother’s side… and what I notice is how disruptive the move to North America in colonial times was for family histories.

For those of us with a European ancestry I’m noticing quite a range of quality in the recording of the past. This has driven home to me the idea of a “name” and exactly what one name is supposed to mean, and why it was important to pass it on.

A cousin of mine did my father’s side back to when they moved to North America and her’s was relatively easy, as the family stayed in one placed for 400 years. I don’t think she ever went further back than our arrival.

My mother’s side would be tougher as her parents moved here after WWI.

115 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:28:17am
116 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:30:23am

re: #115 Eventual Carrion

“Bailiff, whack his pee pee!”

I think there’s a Republican lawmaker up there in Montana who needs to gin up some courage and ask his good wife to be a bit more adventurous in bed.

117 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:31:53am

re: #116 iossarian

I think there’s a Republican lawmaker up there in Montana who needs to gin up some courage and ask his good wife to be a bit more adventurous in bed.

Or she already does, and he enjoys it so much that he wants to see more of it during the workday…

118 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:34:24am

What right-wing racism?

119 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:37:58am

Hope the FBI is keeping tabs on this hate nut.

120 jaunte  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:39:06am

re: #118 Vicious Babushka

Atlanta GDP: $270 billion, ranks 6th in the nation and 15th in the world.

121 EmmaAnne  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:41:01am

You know, many years ago when I applied for a state government job, we had to note on the application whether we had ever belonged to a group that “advocated the violent overthrow of the government.” We laughed at this over-the-top question, left over from the red-scare fifties, but now I am seeing tweets that … advocate the violent overthrow of the government. So weird.

122 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:42:04am

re: #121 EmmaAnne

You know, many years ago when I applied for a state government job, we had to note on the application whether we had ever belonged to a group that “advocated the violent overthrow of the government.” We laughed at this over-the-top question, left over from the red-scare fifties, but now I am seeing tweets that … advocate the violent overthrow of the government. So weird.

The sad part is they would primary well in gerrymandered red districts.

123 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:43:47am

re: #119 Vicious Babushka

Hope the FBI is keeping tabs on this hate nut.

“Stand Up America Now”?

I bet there’s a large portion of his audience that would have trouble walking more than a couple of blocks at a time.

124 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:48:59am

re: #100 lawhawk

Prosecutors are still trying to figure out who was behind the ambush assassination of a Texas prosecutor, and one of his recent cases stands out for who was the focus:

The SPLC notes that the Aryan Brotherhood in Prison is one of the largest and most dangerous gangs operating in prisons across the nation. But it’s not a hate group in the traditional sense either, as they’ll do business with whoever they think will help them gain power, even if means working with the likes of Mexican drug cartels.

There’s been a fairly big push against the AB recently. Most significant, one of their higher members, Terry Sillers, turned within the past three or four months and is in witness protection. So there’s a big two-part reason for the attack (actually I think it’s attacks, but so far the others haven’t been deadly.) There’s the counter-strike against the federal push, and there’s the specific strike against those who were or were alleged to be involved in turning and hiding Sillers.

Personal expectation is that this is going to get worse. Personal suspicion is that at some point the link I think exists between AB and TP gets exposed. That’s when things get interesting.

125 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:49:51am

re: #121 EmmaAnne

You know, many years ago when I applied for a state government job, we had to note on the application whether we had ever belonged to a group that “advocated the violent overthrow of the government.” We laughed at this over-the-top question, left over from the red-scare fifties, but now I am seeing tweets that … advocate the violent overthrow of the government. So weird.

This time the Red(state)s are real, and we see them constantly posting to Twitter and blogs about their hatred for our president.

126 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:52:37am

Alabama bus driver’s memorial is tomorrow—nutcase and his hostage are still chillin’ in the bunker. LE seems to have a good tight lid on the scene and their public statements.

127 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:55:47am

The Firehose of Hate & Derp still streaming

128 Mattand  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:56:21am

re: #113 lawhawk

God, how can anyone go through life that fucking stupid?

129 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:57:31am

re: #128 Mattand

God, how can anyone go through life that fucking stupid?

He was a Delta?
/// ;p

130 Mattand  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 7:58:51am

re: #129 Feline Fearless Leader

He was a Delta?
/// ;p

Conservative, paranoid, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

131 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:04:54am

RIP Ed Koch:

That’s an Academy Award winning short animation featuring Hizzoner.

133 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:14:55am

re: #120 jaunte

Atlanta GDP: $270 billion, ranks 6th in the nation and 15th in the world.

Tweet him that.

134 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:16:57am

re: #133 Gus

Tweet him that.

AAARRRGGGHH!1! A TROLL FROM #UNITEBLUE!1! BLOCK IT, BLOCKITBLOCKIT!1!1!

135 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:17:14am

Still alive. I see Ed Koch died. Heart failure. In other news…

Right. Because having to pay a $750 fine is just like being sent to a concentration camp, forced labor (breaking rocks), and seeing your family executed over time before which you are gassed with poisonous gas if not shot point blank in the head by an SS officer.

136 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:18:17am

How Right-wingers observe Black History Month

137 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:19:20am
138 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:22:06am
139 chadu  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:23:30am

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

The Firehose of Hate & Derp still streaming

(beavis) Heh heh heh! Hose! (/beavis)

140 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:23:40am

That ‏@MAfreedom freak is a flat out white supremacist.

141 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:23:49am

Fact: the GOP is full of racist bastards.

Fact: racial and ethnic minority groups are growing fast in the US, while the white population is shrinking.

Fact: the two facts listed above, when taken together, make me very, very happy.

142 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:24:59am

re: #123 iossarian

“Stand Up America Now”?

I bet there’s a large portion of his audience that would have trouble walking more than a couple of blocks at a time.

Scooters are a bitch to maneuver when you’re trying to reload.

///

143 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:25:22am

You tell ‘em, Madame Secretary.

“There are some people in politics and in the press who can’t be confused by the facts. They just will not live in an evidence-based world. And that’s regrettable. It’s regrettable for our political system and for the people who serve our government in very dangerous, difficult circumstances.”

Full interview with AP here.

144 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:26:34am

@sbpdl is one sick f*ck. His twitter background makes me want to vomit. Well, I guess everything about him does.

145 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:27:04am

re: #140 Gus

That ‏@MAfreedom freak is a flat out white supremacist.

There are a number of overt white supremacists on TGDN but they are only horrified by the little babushka.

146 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:28:28am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Alabama bus driver’s memorial is tomorrow—nutcase and his hostage are still chillin’ in the bunker. LE seems to have a good tight lid on the scene and their public statements.

Waiting out the nutcase might be the safest thing to do for the kid, but it sure doesn’t make for good TV.

I hope everything turns out ok for that little boy.

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:30:12am

re: #142 Lidane

Scooters are a bitch to maneuver when you’re trying to reload.

///

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The solution has already been invented. By the French of course!
;)

148 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:30:29am

Cue the ‘splodey heads and cries of “ZOMG RINO!” —

David Brooks: Immigration is the Easy Problem

The first big point from all this is that given the likely gridlock on tax reform and fiscal reform, immigration reform is our best chance to increase America’s economic dynamism. We should normalize the illegals who are here, create a legal system for low-skill workers and bend the current reform proposals so they look more like the Canadian system, which tailors the immigrant intake to regional labor markets and favors high-skill workers.

The second big conclusion is that if we can’t pass a law this year, given the overwhelming strength of the evidence, then we really are a pathetic basket case of a nation.

149 gwangung  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:30:58am

re: #146 wrenchwench

Waiting out the nutcase might be the safest thing to do for the kid, but it sure doesn’t make for good TV.

Screw “good TV.” Going in, guns blazing, makes for good TV, but awful; survival rates, both for gunman and hostage.

I hope everything turns out ok for that little boy.

Yup.

150 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:33:45am

re: #148 Lidane

We should normalize the illegals who are here

You could start, Mr. Frum Brooks, by not calling them ‘illegals’. You make you living by typing words, surely you can come up with alternatives.

151 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:35:04am

re: #150 wrenchwench

You could start, Mr. Frum Brooks, by not calling them ‘illegals’. You make you living by typing words, surely you can come up with alternatives.

That was Brooks, not Frum. Otherwise, I agree with you. :)

152 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:35:06am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

There are a number of overt white supremacists on TGDN but they are only horrified by the little babushka.

So basically TGDN is tolerant of their racists. SNAFU

153 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:35:39am

re: #151 Lidane

That was Brooks, not Frum. Otherwise, I agree with you. :)

Moar coffee tea!

154 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:39:54am

Cue the conspiracy nuts!

Actually, no cuing required. They’ve been hallucinating over this for weeks now.

155 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:41:25am

re: #150 wrenchwench

You could start, Mr. Frum Brooks, by not calling them ‘illegals’. You make you living by typing words, surely you can come up with alternatives.

Fixt!

156 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:42:00am

re: #154 Gus

Cue the conspiracy nuts!

Actually, no cuing required. They’ve been hallucinating over this for weeks now.

BOYCOTT WALMART!!!!1ity

157 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:43:43am

Oh goody. More craziness.

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.
— Eliana Johnson, National Review

158 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:44:15am

Waaaaaayyyy OT but good for this guy:

Bicyclist hailed as hero in Hanover pond rescue

159 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:45:10am

On the road to peak wingnut.

160 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:45:10am

re: #157 Gus

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.
— Eliana Johnson, National Review

What the actual fuck?

I’d offer more of a reaction, but I’m in the middle of a confernce call.

161 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:45:34am

re: #157 Gus

I’m pretty sure this is actually a universal rule. If you’re ever thinking about defending the Nazis in your article, don’t fucking defend the Nazis in your article, you goddamned imbecile.

162 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:46:23am

Bwahahaha! Saw Gus retweet this:

163 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:48:21am

re: #162 Geoff with a G

Bwahahaha! Saw Gus retweet this:

Yeah. They don’t even have a minor grasp of the establishment clause. If one were to include religion in schools it means ALL religions and no religions.

164 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:48:24am
165 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:49:53am

re: #164 Lidane

The TGDN racists are getting more bold.

166 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:51:34am

Fran Ingram is spamming Terry Jones crap like once a minute. Isn’t that a violation of Twitter TOS?

167 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:52:26am

re: #161 erik_t

I’m pretty sure this is actually a universal rule. If you’re ever thinking about defending the Nazis in your article, don’t fucking defend the Nazis in your article, you goddamned imbecile.

Dogwin’s Law?

168 The Spectre of the Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:53:40am

re: #161 erik_t

I’m pretty sure this is actually a universal rule. If you’re ever thinking about defending the Nazis in your article, don’t fucking defend the Nazis in your article, you goddamned imbecile.

The important thing is to attack BHO whenever possible. Even if it means prissily picking at the word “senseless” in the context of Nation Socialism, a doctrine which made no fucking sense.*

*unless you were a senselessly racist fucker that believed in racist unicorn economics as a solution to society’s ills.

169 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:53:42am

re: #165 Gus

The TGDN racists are getting more bold.

170 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:53:44am

re: #112 Sol Berdinowitz

From earlier in the thread: there is no arguing with these people, we just have to keep getting the word out that the GOP is the party of corporal punishment, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny, religious fundamentalism and gun fetishism.

Well said. And accurate.

171 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:56:06am
172 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:58:17am

re: #158 Geoff with a G

Waaaaaayyyy OT but good for this guy:

Bicyclist hailed as hero in Hanover pond rescue

You can see and hear much more from a bike than from a car. Good for him doing something about it.

173 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:59:34am

Amazing (well, not really), but southern_bred referenced above, responded to my tweet with the following:

174 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 8:59:57am

re: #169 Vicious Babushka

A good liberal thinks the 3 branches of government are Welfare, Food Stamps and Unemployment!! #tgdn
— Obama Will Screw Us (@obamascrewingus) February 1, 2013

And a good republican thinks there should only be one branch of government and it should be ruled by a king appointed by god (or one of his humble minions here on earth).

175 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:00:13am

Dow Jones Indices: .DJI - Feb 1 11:59am ET
14000.73
+140.15 (1.01%)

176 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:00:29am

BWAHAHAA! Laying low trying to keep his grifting ass out of jail.

177 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:00:36am

re: #175 Gus

Dow Jones Indices: .DJI - Feb 1 11:59am ET
14000.73
+140.15 (1.01%)

Buck, your new challenge awaits!

178 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:05:23am

re: #177 erik_t

Buck, your new challenge awaits!

Didn’t he delete all of his pages and run away after getting thoroughly spanked in two threads earlier this week when he posted links to hate sites?

179 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:07:49am

Morning all!

How is it by you?

180 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:08:43am

re: #174 Eventual Carrion

And a good republican thinks there should only be one branch of government and it should be ruled by a king appointed by god (or one of his humble minions here on earth).

Because G-d would never be a tyrant?

181 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:09:14am

re: #171 Gus

except when he forgot to duck …

182 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:09:45am

re: #176 Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA! Laying low trying to keep his grifting ass out of jail.

TGDN = Todd Going Down Now

183 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:10:00am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

Morning all!

How is it by you?

Much better than yesterday, a balmy -19C with windchill when I walked my dogs this AM, far better than the -48C we faced yesterday morning.

Have you ever seen a dog try to walk without touching his feet on the ground?

184 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:10:39am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

Morning all!

How is it by you?

White and cold. My wife thinks im walking around with an erection but its just a frozen dick.

185 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:10:39am

re: #182 wrenchwench

TDGN = Todd Going Down Now

Pencil!

186 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:11:00am

TGDN: Todd Going Derp Now

187 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:11:29am

re: #183 Jolo5309

Much better than yesterday, a balmy -19C with windchill when I walked my dogs this AM, far better than the -48C we faced yesterday morning.

Have you ever seen a dog try to walk without touching his feet on the ground?

teehee, yes and it’s hilarious!

188 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:11:35am

re: #184 b_sharp

White and cold. My wife thinks im walking around with an erection but its just a frozen dick.

TMI

189 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:13:40am

Here is what get’s me about the surge in gun and ammo sales.

You know when some people hear it is going to snow they run out and buy milk and other essentials, but mostly milk. Perhaps Southern Lizards will not of heard of this phenom. Anytime a big snow storm is predicted, stores will run out of milk.

Anyway, if this happens every day or even every other day, eventually people figure that the weatherman is “crying wolf” and quit buying milk.

Gun Nutz don’t seem to get it.

190 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:14:00am

Must be getting used to the dentures after losing all his teeth to meth abuse.

191 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:15:48am

re: #189 FemNaziBitch

Here is what get’s me about the surge in gun and ammo sales.

You know when some people hear it is going to snow they run out and buy milk and other essentials, but mostly milk. Perhaps Southern Lizards will not of heard of this phenom. Anytime a big snow storm is predicted, stores will run out of milk.

WE’RE ABOUT TO GET SNOWED IN! EVERYONE HURRY TO GO BUY PERISHABLE FOOD!

193 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:16:53am
194 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:17:19am
195 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:17:28am

re: #191 erik_t

WE’RE ABOUT TO GET SNOWED IN! EVERYONE HURRY TO GO BUY PERISHABLE FOOD!

Only works if you are a weatherman.

196 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:19:40am

re: #192 dragonath

Survey: 27 Percent Of Americans Believe God Helps Decide Who Wins Sporting Events

Maybe God’s got a twenty riding on the outcome.

197 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:19:42am

re: #184 b_sharp

White and cold. My wife thinks im walking around with an erection but its just a frozen dick.

Have you thought about wearing pants?

198 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:19:50am

re: #183 Jolo5309

Much better than yesterday, a balmy -19C with windchill when I walked my dogs this AM, far better than the -48C we faced yesterday morning.

Have you ever seen a dog try to walk without touching his feet on the ground?

Wow your weather is zackly the same as ours.

199 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:21:44am

re: #157 Gus

Oh goody. More craziness.

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.
— Eliana Johnson, National Review

Yes, some of their policies did appeal to a lot of Germans, they offered a lot of things that sound “sensible” to our ears, (Autobahns, paid vacation, package tours for the working classes), they promoted a meritocracy over the priveleges of the class system, etc.

They appealed to the people’s desire for stability and order in a time of economic crisis and political strife that was paralyzing the country.

And they also appealed to an existing anti-Semitism, but in doing so, promoted it to an ideology and a body of legislation banning Jews from intermarriage, professional practices and restricting their property rights.

So WTF? I mean, WTFityFingF?

200 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:21:48am

It was 60 degrees on Tuesday. Now it’s 26. Good god, NoVa pick something and be done with it. I don’t like being teased thinking that spring’s just around the corner and then being reminded that no we still have a month plus of Winter left.

201 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:22:35am

It’s 3 degrees in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland.

202 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:23:47am

re: #199 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, some of their policies did appeal to a lot of Germans, they offered a lot of things that sound “seinsible” to our ears, (Autobahns, paid vacation, package tours for the working classes), they promoted a meritocracy over the priveleges of the class system, etc.

They appealed to the peoples’ desire for stability and order in a time of economic crisis and political strife that was paralyzing the country.

And they also appealed to an existing anti-Semitism, but in doing so, promoted it to an ideology and a body of legislation banning Jews from intermarriage, professional practices and restricting their property rights.

So WTF? I mean, WTFityFingF?

I have a hard time with the “sensible” insertion as well. It’s just not right.

203 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:24:53am

How’s the foot/ankle area feeling this morning, Gus?

204 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:25:00am

re: #196 BongCrodny

27%

Exactly in-line with the crazification factor

205 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:25:41am
206 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:26:16am

Demonizing ideas.

Maybe he’s “just asking questions.”

These people are so predictable. It’s like they all share one brain.

207 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:27:45am

re: #198 b_sharp

Wow your weather is zackly the same as ours.

weird hunh?

208 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:28:21am

Yeah “demonizing ideas.” At least he didn’t do the usual crap and claim the KKK were leftists.

209 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:28:42am

Conservatives are such pinheads. And I apologize for generalizing to any sane conservative here but my god man. You don’t want to be called racist or homophobic? Don’t say racist or homophobic crap.

210 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:29:32am

re: #206 Gus

Demonizing ideas.

Maybe he’s “just asking questions.”

These people are so predictable. It’s like they all share one brain cell.

ftfy

211 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:29:41am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Yeah “demonizing ideas.” At least he didn’t do the usual crap and claim the KKK were leftists.

… this time.

212 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:30:42am

re: #211 kirkspencer

… this time.

Yeah unfortunately true. I always laugh at the one because I want to know what we libs are. Are we white supremacist assholes or diversity freaks? I mean we can’t be both.

213 dragonath  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:31:10am

re: #206 Gus

Demonizing ideas.

Maybe he’s “just asking questions.”

These people are so predictable. It’s like they all share one brain.

You… are not of the body!

214 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:31:58am

re: #206 Gus

Didn’t exactly deny it either. /just asking the questions

215 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:32:05am
216 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:32:15am

re: #205 Gus

@sbpdl @Gus_802 That you believe anyone who points out black failure is a member of the Klan shows the power of the left in demonizing ideas.

With apologies to Mr. Foxworthy, if you find yourself regularly using phrases like “black failure”… you might be a racist.

217 gwangung  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:33:56am

re: #215 Lidane

Aren’t these both factually wrong?

218 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:34:20am

re: #215 Lidane

Appoint anti-Americans. Hey, Joe McCarthy’s still drunk corpse called. It wants its meme back.

219 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:35:12am

Sheesh imagine if Obama had the Marine Barracks bombing that Reagan did or heaven forbid 9/11. Don’t think for a second that wouldn’t be used to push for immediate impeachment and then removal.

220 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:35:22am

re: #217 gwangung

Aren’t these both factually wrong?

Wikipedia identifies at least twelve during W’s tenure, while only showing two during Obama’s administration. List is noted as non-comprehensive.

221 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:35:34am

re: #202 FemNaziBitch

I have a hard time with the “sensible” insertion as well. It’s just not right.

In the sense of “not everything they did was pure evil”. But it does not mean that they were not evil in the general sense.

The only point of this article is to take Obama to task for something he said.

If he came out and told Americans not to eat yellow snow, we would hear Fox announcers first complaining that the Government has no right to tell us what kind of snow we could eat followed by Koch Brothers-funded expert studies of the health benefits of doing so…

222 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:35:45am

re: #215 Lidane

It makes me sad when young people aren’t smart enough to see through their wingnut parents and subculture.

223 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:36:13am

I can’t keep all these %’s straight.

47% on welfare
27% crazy
99% not rich
4/5 doctors prefer Listerine

What else?

224 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:36:26am

re: #206 Gus

Demonizing ideas.

Maybe he’s “just asking questions.”

These people are so predictable. It’s like they all share half of one brain.

FTFY

225 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:37:09am

re: #222 JeffFX

It makes me sad when young people aren’t smart enough to see through their wingnut parents and subculture.

Is ok, most young people thing their parents are clue-less.

226 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:37:23am

re: #222 JeffFX

It makes me sad when young people aren’t smart enough to see through their wingnut parents and subculture.

That’s part of what college is for. Zomg indoctrination.

227 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:38:00am

re: #221 Sol Berdinowitz

In the sense of “not everything they did was pure evil”. But it does not mean that they were not evil in the general sense.

The only point of this article is to take Obama to task for something he said.

If he came out and told Americans not to eat yellow snow, we would hear Fox announcers first complaining that the Government has no right to tell us what kind of snow we could eat followed by Koch Brothers-funded expert studies of the health benefits of doing so…

LOL, yes, you are correct.

Yet I’m tired of the constant zero-sum rhetoric.

228 dragonath  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:38:18am

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

I can’t keep all these %’s straight.

47% on welfare
27% crazy
99% not rich
4/5 doctors prefer Listerine

What else?

More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette!

229 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:38:37am

Nope, no bigotry here.

230 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:39:06am

re: #225 FemNaziBitch

Is ok, most young people thing their parents are clue-less.

Probably not the yahoos we’re seeing on twitter. I insist on assuming that wingnut kids did not have sensible parents because the alternative would be too awful.

231 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:39:53am

re: #229 Gus

Nope, no bigotry here.

Remember when they were still calling them blahs?

Oh, a simpler, more innocent time.

232 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:39:57am

“ZOMG MAH COORS LIGHT COSTS MORE!”

233 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:40:00am

re: #206 Gus

@gus_802 That you believe anyone who points out black failure is a member of the Klan shows the power of the left in demonizing ideas.
— Paul Kersey (@sbpdl) February 1, 2013


Demonizing ideas.

Maybe he’s “just asking questions.”

These people are so predictable. It’s like they all share one brain.

Yeah, and they lump everyone under “black” as if all black people are exactly the same no matter what. Maybe Paul falls under the white failure that is a trailer trash redneck, wife beating, beer drinking lout. So every damn white person is a fucking inbred, trailer living, welfare taking, racist piece of shit. And I say that lovingly as a white person. Now where is my wifebeater tee shirt and who stole the skirting from around my house?

234 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:40:24am
235 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:41:02am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

That’s part of what college is for. Zomg indoctrination.

Great point. Some of these people are at stage of severe worldview handicap from growing up in conservative culture, but before the stage of life where they meet people different from themselves and realize that their parents are assholes.

236 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:41:23am

Eric Cantor, focusing on the important things:

I like Spotify as much as the next person, but really? He’s got nothing else to talk about?

237 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:41:46am

re: #235 JeffFX

Great point. Some of these people are at stage of severe worldview handicap from growing up in conservative culture, but before the stage of life where they meet people different from themselves and realize that their parents are assholes.

The workplace is another great place for reality checks.

238 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:41:48am

re: #232 Lidane

@EricBoehlert only Fox is this dedicated to beclowning: “reports” price of beer is up 6% over last 4 yrs…and blames Obama; [Link: bit.ly…]

Yeah, when foreign conglomerates sought to buy up our shitty domestic macrobrews, the federal government should have stepped in to prevent the sale.

Wait, what?

239 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:41:57am

re: #234 Dr. Matt

Armed man barricades himself in a Tampa apartment after a deputy served him an eviction notice this morning.

Another “law abiding gun owner” exercising the 2nd.

Is there a hostage involved?

240 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:42:26am

re: #239 Vicious Babushka

Is there a hostage involved?

No word as of yet.

241 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:42:58am

re: #236 Lidane

Eric Cantor, focusing on the important things:

I like Spotify as much as the next person, but really? He’s got nothing else to talk about?

Or maybe you could actually you know do your job, Eric. Spofify’s awesme. I love it and have it and iTunes up right now but boo fucking hoo you prick.

242 gwangung  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:42:59am

re: #232 Lidane

6% over four years? Isn’t that pretty much in line with inflation?

243 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:43:48am

re: #229 Gus

Nope, no bigotry here.

Stupid bigoted ass.

244 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:44:10am

re: #242 gwangung

6% over four years? Isn’t that pretty much in line with inflation?

Naw, it’s all transportation costs because of the price of gas and it’s all Obama’s fault.

/

245 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:44:39am

re: #242 gwangung

6% over four years? Isn’t that pretty much in line with inflation?

Seems pretty normal to me. I love how we couldn’t blame Bush’s actions for the gas prices but this dipshit wants to directly blame Obama for the price of beer.

246 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:46:27am

re: #235 JeffFX

Great point. Some of these people are at stage of severe worldview handicap from growing up in conservative culture, but before the stage of life where they meet people different from themselves and realize that their parents are assholes.

Shit, it was helpful for me and I come from a pretty liberal background. This is the “indoctrination” that they worry about though. It’s not indoctrination though. It’s a slap in the face that there are other ideas than the ones you’ve been hearing your whole life before that point. Of course wackjobs seem to think that’s indoctrination when it’s really part of maturity.

247 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:48:14am

Some inconvenient truths

Here’s a little fantasy for you to ponder: what if one of our senior foreign policy officials accidentally swallowed some sodium pentothal (aka “truth serum”) before some public hearing or press conference, and started speaking the truth about one of those issues where prevarication, political correctness, and obfuscation normally prevail? You know: what if they started saying in public all those things that they probably believe in private? What sorts of “inconvenient truths” might suddenly get revealed?

In that spirit, here’s my Top Five Truths You Won’t Hear Any U.S. Official Admit.

#5: “We do a lot of stupid things in foreign policy. Get used to it.”

248 gwangung  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:49:45am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Seems pretty normal to me. I love how we couldn’t blame Bush’s actions for the gas prices but this dipshit wants to directly blame Obama for the price of beer.

So, basically, more innumeracy from the Fox crowd.

249 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:50:12am

Wingnuts are joyfully Tweeting this news story.

Why do I keep thinking there was meth or other drugs involved?

250 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:52:07am

AT&T crapping out this morning. Grrr.

251 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:52:15am


YES! Cancel your Cable TV, boycott Walmart, boycott JCP, boycott EVERYTHING. GO GALT.

Please. Why don’t you do it already?

252 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:52:18am

re: #249 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are joyfully Tweeting this news story.

Why do I keep thinking there was meth or other drugs involved?

What kind of woman was this, I thought that real women went for AR-15’s, the gun of choice.

253 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:52:28am

re: #248 gwangung

So, basically, more innumeracy from the Fox crowd.

Yeah. I really haven’t noticed any real dramatic changes in beer prices since I turned 21 in the later part of the Bush years. My beer expenses go up when I feel like being a beer snob and buy some IPAs as opposed to something cheaper like Rolling Rock but there really hasn’t been a that’s really not a dramatic increase at all. It’s like a six pack going from being 7.00$ to 7.25ish.

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:53:34am

re: #195 FemNaziBitch

Only works if you are a weatherman.

He probably has stock in a company that makes high capacity milk containers.
// ;)

255 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:53:45am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I really haven’t noticed any real dramatic changes in beer prices since I turned 21 in the later part of the Bush years. My beer expenses go up when I feel like being a beer snob and buy some IPAs as opposed to something cheaper like Rolling Rock but there really hasn’t been a that’s really not a dramatic increase at all. It’s like a six pack going from being 7.00$ to 7.25ish.

There are always the ever increasing (it seems) vice taxes imposed by municipalities and States.

But, it’s easier to blame Obama.

256 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:53:53am

re: #252 Sol Berdinowitz

What kind of woman was this, I thought that real women went for AR-15’s, the gun of choice.

Why would a swarm of gangbangers invade a house where there was not much to steal? (Unless it was drugs or drug money)

257 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:54:38am

re: #255 FemNaziBitch

There are always the ever increasing (it seems) vice taxes imposed by municipalities and States.

But, it’s easier to blame Obama.

Of course, blaming Obama is as predictable as a sunrise for people like this. Oh, I had a bad day. Obama!

258 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:54:46am

re: #205 Gus

Until the “liberals” point out the failures of Herman Cain, of course.
/

259 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:54:47am

re: #237 FemNaziBitch

The workplace is another great place for reality checks.

Depends on the workplace. When I was at Sears headquarters years ago the black people I worked with were all less educated and in less responsible positions than their paler peers. This was because Sears would give people who had shitty lives in bad Chicago neighborhoods a chance, and they succeeded in their positions and built better lives, but it created a visible division in workforce ability that an ignorant conservative could point to. It’s been years, and this is probably no longer the case with them in Hoffman Estates now.

At my current position two of three black males are mailroom staff, but we have several black and a couple of Indian females in positions of responsibility, so the environmental message isn’t quite right there either but it’s better.

I think college is the best place to learn that we’re all alike, because you’re exposed to people from different cultures and financial backgrounds that are all there to learn the same things you are because they have the same drives that you do. Plus young people tend to lack the ability to keep their laughter in when someone says something they think is stupid, so if you keep saying stupid things, you’re surrounded by laughter and derision and won’t get invited to the right parties.

Disclosure:I didn’t go to college, but was lucky enough to be raised by sensible blue-collar people who taught me right from wrong.

260 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:55:05am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I really haven’t noticed any real dramatic changes in beer prices since I turned 21 in the later part of the Bush years. My beer expenses go up when I feel like being a beer snob and buy some IPAs as opposed to something cheaper like Rolling Rock but there really hasn’t been a that’s really not a dramatic increase at all. It’s like a six pack going from being 7.00$ to 7.25ish.

Didn’t read the story, but i this an average of all beer prices over enough of a sample size (in years) then it is the increase in specialty beer bringing up the average. Or the increase in fuel/transportation costs.

261 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:55:30am

I notice Southern_Bred hasn’t responded on Twitter.

262 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:55:37am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

It’s interesting. Miller and Bud, both part of larger conglomerates, increased their prices over the past couple of years. Modelo didn’t go along with the increases, and instead gained market share.

Now, Budweiser is about to try and buy the other 50% ownership stake in Modelo they don’t have.

Consolidating the market means the chances are that prices will go up for the big label brewer products.

You know, supply demand and market distortion.

263 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:56:02am

re: #249 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are joyfully Tweeting this news story.

Why do I keep thinking there was meth or other drugs involved?

Obviously a false flag put out by the NRA ;)

264 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:56:06am

re: #259 JeffFX

Depends on the workplace. When I was at Sears headquarters years ago the black people I worked with were all less educated and in less responsible positions than their paler peers. This was because Sears would give people who had shitty lives in bad Chicago neighborhoods a chance, and they succeeded in their positions and built better lives, but it created a visible division in workforce ability that an ignorant conservative could point to. It’s been years, and this is probably no longer the case with them in Hoffman Estates now.

At my current position two of three black males are mailroom staff, but we have several black and a couple of Indian females in positions of responsibility, so the environmental message isn’t quite right there either but it’s better.

I think college is the best place to learn that we’re all alike, because you’re exposed to people from different cultures and financial backgrounds that are all there to learn the same things you are because they have the same drives that you do. Plus young people tend to lack the ability to keep their laughter in when someone says something they think is stupid, so if you keep saying stupid things, you’re surrounded by laughter and derision and won’t get invited to the right parties.

Disclosure:I didn’t go to college, but was lucky enough to be raised by sensible blue-collar people who taught me right from wrong.

My last job was as a cashier in a retail store. It was a big reality check for me. You learn alot working with the general public.

265 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:56:20am

NO RACISM OR HOMOPHOBIA HERE.MOVE ALONG.

266 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:57:19am
267 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:57:27am

re: #258 Feline Fearless Leader

Until the “liberals” point out the failures of Herman Cain, of course.
/

See, that’s the damndest thing about wingnuts. They’ll generalize about races blah blah but then you point out the actions of someone like Cain, Marco Rubio, and it’s OMG YOU LIBERALS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Same thing with gender. Rush Limbaugh and other wingnuts put down feminists and feminism for years but the second John McCain made Sarah Palin his running mate, any criticism of Sarah Palin from the left was called sexist. It was the most pathetic ever to watch a man who popularized the term feminazi acted like liberals who criticized a candidate who happened to be a woman’s knowledge and experience on the key issues were sexist pigs.

268 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:57:52am

re: #256 Vicious Babushka

Why would a swarm of gangbangers invade a house where there was not much to steal? (Unless it was drugs or drug money)

It’s newsworthy because the woman was white and the “guys” wore hoodies.

269 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:58:29am

TGDN and TCOT are effectively hate groups.

270 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:58:35am

re: #256 Vicious Babushka

Why would a swarm of gangbangers invade a house where there was not much to steal? (Unless it was drugs or drug money)

Yep. If your house is invaded by gang-members, you were most likely part of their subculture, which is why they know you have what they want.

271 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:59:01am

Men, Married, Southerners Most Likely to Be Gun Owners
Nearly two-thirds of Southern married men own guns

272 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 9:59:15am

re: #256 Vicious Babushka

Why would a swarm of gangbangers invade a house where there was not much to steal? (Unless it was drugs or drug money)

If she’s being honest I’d bet on mistaken address.

Not making book on her telling the whole story yet, however. As reported the story’s a bit, well, odd. But there is the man in the hospital…

273 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:00:53am

re: #266 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Idaho Pro-gun legislators freaked out over guns in the capitol

LOL *facepalm* LOL

That sound you hear is a bunch of Texas legislators laughing at these Idaho clowns. Not only do we allow guns in the Capitol building, but having a concealed carry permit lets you avoid the metal detectors.

274 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:03:36am
275 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:03:38am

re: #266 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Idaho Pro-gun legislators freaked out over guns in the capitol

LOL *facepalm* LOL

But I thought an armed society was a polite one. I guess that changes when those arms are at your place of work huh guys.

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:04:40am

re: #273 Lidane

That sound you hear is a bunch of Texas legislators laughing at these Idaho clowns. Not only do we allow guns in the Capitol building, but having a concealed carry permit lets you avoid the metal detectors.

So you’re saying that they have been very lucky so far, or do they have additional security protections other than a metal detector?

277 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:05:00am

re: #273 Lidane

Idaho allowed a governor’s executive order banning firearms from the Capitol to lapse. The state allows firearms, but bags are subject to search.

They’ve wigged out over the guy snooping around legislators’ desks and joining in with a Cub Scout tour of the building.

In reality, it’s hypocrisy in action - as they’re for an unfettered 2d in the abstract, but the moment facing a concrete example of a security threat, they realize that it’s not exactly to their liking.

278 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:05:23am

re: #274 Lidane

Man that really leads to crux to my crazy theory that Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the NRA are stuck in the 1990’s somehow. Maybe they’ll blame President Clinton next.

279 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:06:00am

re: #264 FemNaziBitch

My last job was as a cashier in a retail store. It was a big reality check for me. You learn alot working with the general public.

I’ll bet you knew about the crazy percentage pretty quickly. I have a side business that has me dealing with a public that leans Social Conservative, and I encounter people who are absolutely bonkers all the time. Unlike the Conservatives that we see hyperventilating in the news, I can do business with anyone who isn’t looking to rip me off, and offer liberal refunds if a sale doesn’t go smoothly, even if the person is so conservative they’re gibbering like a madman.

This is the reason I post under someone else’s name and profession here. Some of my customers would have aneurysms if they really knew what I think.

280 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:07:05am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Man that really leads to crux to my crazy theory that Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the NRA are stuck in the 1990’s somehow. Maybe they’ll blame President Clinton next.

They’ll blame “Clinton” in general since that allows them to tar both Bill, Hillary, and DeWitt.
/

281 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:07:57am

re: #280 Feline Fearless Leader

They’ll blame “Clinton” in general since that allows them to tar both Bill, Hillary, and DeWitt.
/

DeWitt Clinton: America’s first socialist commie./(Hey, he popularized internal improvements.)

282 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:08:12am
283 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:08:14am

re: #277 lawhawk

Idaho allowed a governor’s executive order banning firearms from the Capitol to lapse. The state allows firearms, but bags are subject to search.

They’ve wigged out over the guy snooping around legislators’ desks and joining in with a Cub Scout tour of the building.

In reality, it’s hypocrisy in action - as they’re for an unfettered 2d in the abstract, but the moment facing a concrete example of a security threat, they realize that it’s not exactly to their liking.

Unpossible!

284 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:08:43am

re: #274 Lidane

Isn’t it interesting that current Conservative positions make previous Conservative positions seem relatively sane? These clowns even made GWB look pretty OK in retrospect. We can’t give them an inch, because they’ll just keep getting worse.

285 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:09:03am

EDIT:
re: #282 Lidane

Ooops! Missed it by that much

286 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:09:58am

re: #279 JeffFX

I’ll bet you knew about the crazy percentage pretty quickly. I have a side business that has me dealing with a public that leans Social Conservative, and I encounter people who are absolutely bonkers all the time. Unlike the Conservatives that we see hyperventilating in the news, I can do business with anyone who isn’t looking to rip me off, and offer liberal refunds if a sale doesn’t go smoothly, even if the person is so conservative they’re gibbering like a madman.

This is the reason I post under someone else’s name and profession here. Some of my customers would have aneurysms if they really knew what I think.

I found most people to be pretty kewl. I also became very aware of how bad some people are at communicating. Managers (who are suppossed to be good at such things) were usually the worst and pissed-off the most customers.

“It’s not what you say, but how you say it”

I learned that if you treat most people with respect, you’ll get it in return.

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:10:01am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

DeWitt Clinton: America’s first socialist commie./(Hey, he popularized internal improvements.)

According to Daniel Walker Howe (2007), Clinton is an authentic but largely forgotten hero of American democracy. Howe explains, “The infrastructure he worked to create would transform American life, enhancing economic opportunity, political participation, and intellectual awareness.”

Sounds like a socialist commie. Probably a secret Muslim as well paving the way for sharia law.
///

288 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:11:16am

re: #287 Feline Fearless Leader

According to Daniel Walker Howe (2007), Clinton is an authentic but largely forgotten hero of American democracy. Howe explains, “The infrastructure he worked to create would transform American life, enhancing economic opportunity, political participation, and intellectual awareness.”

Sounds like a socialist commie. Probably a secret Muslim as well paving the way for sharia law.
///

I believe he was governor of New York when the Erie Canal was constructed. Always like reading about forgotten people like him.

289 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:11:43am

Hmmm Brown’s not running. How crushing.

290 dragonath  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:11:50am

re: #282 Lidane

“bqhatevwr”

291 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:11:54am

re: #271 FemNaziBitch

Men, Married, Southerners Most Likely to Be Gun Owners
Nearly two-thirds of Southern married men own guns

We’re working on that slacker 35%

292 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:11:57am

re: #284 JeffFX

Isn’t it interesting that current Conservative positions make previous Conservative positions seem relatively sane? These clowns even made GWB look pretty OK in retrospect. We can’t give them an inch, because they’ll just keep getting worse.

‘cause they aren’t conservative —they are bat-shit Whacko™ paranoid theocrats.

Labels and old definitions don’t really apply anymore

293 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:12:07am

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

I found most people to be pretty kewl. I also became very aware of how bad some people are at communicating. Managers (who are suppossed to be good at such things) were usually the worst and pissed-off the most customers.

“It’s not what you say, but how you say it”

I learned that if you treat most people with respect, you’ll get it in return.

Sounds like you had a good crowd. Minority neighborhood?

Managers that cannot communicate at all are very common, and very unfortunate. I’m recently rid of a really bad one and no longer have any stress in my life.

294 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:14:00am

re: #293 JeffFX

Sounds like you had a good crowd. Minority neighborhood?

Managers that cannot communicate at all are very common, and very unfortunate. I’m recently rid of a really bad one and no longer have any stress in my life.

mixed neighborhood.

Then again, I’ve had a lot of retail and customer service experience. I used to work commission retail sales. You learn how to handle customers yourself if you want repeat business.

295 dragonath  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:14:24am

re: #271 FemNaziBitch

Men, Married, Southerners Most Likely to Be Gun Owners
Nearly two-thirds of Southern married men own guns

You mean they’re married to their guns?

296 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:15:00am

re: #295 dragonath

You mean they’re married to their guns?

They think they own their women.

:0

297 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:15:19am

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

I found most people to be pretty kewl. I also became very aware of how bad some people are at communicating. Managers (who are suppossed to be good at such things) were usually the worst and pissed-off the most customers.

“It’s not what you say, but how you say it”

I learned that if you treat most people with respect, you’ll get it in return.

True. But you also have to be aware that there are those out there who do not treat others with respect or show any empathy towards them. Dealing with them is one of the challenges.

298 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:15:30am

re: #205 Gus

Looking at his timeline and follows, there’s a TON of white supremacist material there - ranging from tweets about “white genocide” to retweeting VDare (who he cites heavily in his book he’s selling via Amazon), and at least a dozen other neo-Nazi related hate groups.
Of course, he probably considers himself a “race realist”, like the rest of these scum.

Here’s a helpful google search: Only 87,000 hits.

[Link: www.google.com…]

299 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:15:43am

Wonder what made Brown decide not to run. Thought it was certain he’d run again after Warren beat him since it seemed to me that Massachusetts voters liked him okay enough but they liked Warren just as much and they didn’t want to give the Republicans another seat in the Senate.

300 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:16:19am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Hmmm Brown’s not running. How crushing.

Actually the word that came to my mind was interesting. How interesting. Not so many months ago he wanted the job. He’s the poll leader even now.

So what happened to make him change his mind?

301 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:16:31am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I believe he was governor of New York when the Erie Canal was constructed. Always like reading about forgotten people like him.

Yep. One reason I picked him as the “other” Clinton. Part of a very influential New York state family.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

302 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:17:27am

re: #300 kirkspencer

Actually the word that came to my mind was interesting. How interesting. Not so many months ago he wanted the job. He’s the poll leader even now.

So what happened to make him change his mind?

That’s what I’m wondering. He’d benefit from running in a special election since turnout would be lower. Higher turnout I think played a big part in Warren’s beating him. Not the whole story- the bullshit about Warren’s heritage didn’t help him or his image but still.

303 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:18:32am

re: #301 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. One reason I picked him as the “other” Clinton. Part of a very influential New York state family.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The last Federalist candidate it seems too. Interesting guy.

304 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:19:01am

re: #298 RadicalModerate

Looking at his timeline and follows, there’s a TON of white supremacist material there - ranging from tweets about “white genocide” to retweeting VDare (who he cites heavily in his book he’s selling via Amazon), and at least a dozen other neo-Nazi related hate groups.
Of course, he probably considers himself a “race realist”, like the rest of these scum.

Here’s a helpful google search: Only 87,000 hits.

[Link: www.google.com…]

Yikes. Big time. Funny how he was repellent to the idea of being a member of the KKK.

305 dragonath  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:19:22am

re: #300 kirkspencer

Actually the word that came to my mind was interesting. How interesting. Not so many months ago he wanted the job. He’s the poll leader even now.

So what happened to make him change his mind?

I am governor Scotty Brown
My biceps smile and never frown
Soon I will be preeeesiiident

306 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:20:22am

Beck: Letting Women Serve in Combat Is ‘the Dumbest Idea I’ve Ever Heard’

Glenn Beck is none-too-pleased about the the Pentagon’s decision to lift the ban on women serving in front-line combat positions, calling it “the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard” because the purpose of the military is to kill and intimidate people … and no enemy is going to be intimidated “because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line”:

OK, now that is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

307 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:20:25am

re: #305 dragonath

I am governor Scotty Brown
My biceps smile and never frown
Soon I will be preeeesiiident

Haha. I think the Republican Party’s done nominating moderate Massachusetts governors with Hollywood hair.

308 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:21:19am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

That’s what I’m wondering. He’d benefit from running in a special election since turnout would be lower. Higher turnout I think played a big part in Warren’s beating him. Not the whole story- the bullshit about Warren’s heritage didn’t help him or his image but still.

Maybe he is waiting for the governors race. If he were to lose to Markey/Lynch/?? this soon after losing to Warren then his political career would be in shambles. The governors race will put some distance between and there is a far greater track record of (R) governors than Senators to run on.

309 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:21:38am

re: #305 dragonath

I am governor Scotty Brown
My biceps smile and never frown
Soon I will be preeeesiiident

Street poetry == automatic +1

310 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:21:39am

re: #306 Kragar

Beck: Letting Women Serve in Combat Is ‘the Dumbest Idea I’ve Ever Heard’

OK, now that is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

did Beck serve?

311 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:21:41am

re: #306 Kragar

Beck: Letting Women Serve in Combat Is ‘the Dumbest Idea I’ve Ever Heard’

OK, now that is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

Just like women fighter pilots. What a terrible idea that was.

312 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:21:55am

re: #288 HappyWarrior
Erie Canal

313 gwangung  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:22:13am

re: #306 Kragar

Beck: Letting Women Serve in Combat Is ‘the Dumbest Idea I’ve Ever Heard’

OK, now that is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

Has he told Israel that, yet?

314 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:22:36am

re: #305 dragonath

I am governor Scotty Brown
My biceps smile and never frown
Soon I will be preeeesiiident

Automatic upding for any DK or Jello reference.

315 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:22:39am

BACK TO THE SWEATSHOPS WITH YOU!

316 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:22:50am

re: #313 gwangung

Has he told Israel that, yet?

Oh, if I could I’d give quadruple updings for that!

317 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:22:52am

re: #308 Geoff with a G

Maybe he is waiting for the governors race. If he were to lose to Markey/Lynch/?? this soon after losing to Warren then his political career would be in shambles. The governors race will put some distance between and there is a far greater track record of (R) governors than Senators to run on.

Could well be. It was my understanding that he initially wanted to use the special election that got him in the Senate originally to use that as a segway to run for governor but then he won so that changed everything.

318 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:23:32am

re: #313 gwangung

Has he told Israel that, yet?

No, because he is scared of the IDF ladies.

319 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:23:39am

re: #306 Kragar

Beck: Letting Women Serve in Combat Is ‘the Dumbest Idea I’ve Ever Heard’

OK, now that is the dumbest thing I ever heard.


“because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line”

He stole that from the Dead Milkmen
Link

320 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:23:44am

re: #313 gwangung

Has he told Israel that, yet?

He’s too busy praising Anti-Semitic writers and then swearing he’s a good friend of the Israeli people.

321 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:23:48am

re: #310 FemNaziBitch

did Beck serve?

322 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:24:51am

re: #305 dragonath

I am governor Scotty Brown
My biceps smile and never frown
Soon I will be preeeesiiident

We’ve got a bigger problem now?

/only saw ‘em live four times during the 80s.

323 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:24:58am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Could well be. It was my understanding that he initially wanted to use the special election that got him in the Senate originally to use that as a segway to run for governor but then he won so that changed everything.

This may bode well for the (financial if not political) underdog Stephen Lynch. With the prospect of a tough/costly primary and general/special election all but removed.

324 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:25:06am

re: #298 RadicalModerate

Looking at his timeline and follows, there’s a TON of white supremacist material there - ranging from tweets about “white genocide” to retweeting VDare (who he cites heavily in his book he’s selling via Amazon), and at least a dozen other neo-Nazi related hate groups.
Of course, he probably considers himself a “race realist”, like the rest of these scum.

Here’s a helpful google search: Only 87,000 hits.

[Link: www.google.com…]

Scumbag deluxe.

The Charles Bronson of Race - Taki’s Magazine

325 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:25:21am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

The ALLCAPS is once again most impressive and thoughtful. /

326 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:26:13am

I’d say half the commentators at Liveleak are like this guy.

327 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:26:15am

All guns are sacred, even the ones given up by their parents owners!

Arizona Group Seeks To Stop Police From Destroying Surrendered Guns

328 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:26:34am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

BACK TO THE SWEATSHOPS WITH YOU!

BAN UNIONS! PUBLIC SHOULD RISEUP AND CONDEMN THEM! THE TIME HAS COME FOR UNIONS TO DISSOLVE!

Who makes up unions but for the working public?

These people seem to think that unions exist as the result of being imposed on working people by union bosses.

329 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:27:29am

re: #327 Lidane

Arizona Group Seeks To Stop Police From Destroying Surrendered Guns

The capitalist in me cringes when I hear of a rare or collectible firearm being destroyed.

The others, I could care less.

330 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:27:30am

re: #327 Lidane

Arizona Group Seeks To Stop Police From Destroying Surrendered Guns

Maybe we should be worried about man-gun marriage instead of same sex marriage because people like this obviously care more about their guns than they do other people.

331 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:27:32am

Heh:

332 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:28:22am

Swanson: Wombs of Women on Birth Control ‘Embedded’ with ‘Dead Babies’

Well, here’s some medical research we hadn’t heard about. Generations Radio host Kevin Swanson, who last week delved memorably into feminist theory, tells us this week that “certain doctors and certain scientists” have researched the wombs of women on the pill and found “there are these little tiny fetuses, these little babies, that are embedded into the womb…Those wombs of women who have been on the birth control pill effectively have become graveyards for lots and lots of little babies.”

“certain doctors and certain scientists” known to the general populace as quacks

333 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:28:24am
no enemy is going to be intimidated “because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line”:

But what if the female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf, etc has a gun? Most soldiers have guns I believe.

334 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:28:44am

re: #328 Sol Berdinowitz

Who makes up unions but for the working public?

These people seem to think that unions exist as the result of being imposed on working people by union bosses.

No kidding. But hey it’s easy to act like there’s a scary union boss crackling evilily in the background.

335 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:29:16am

re: #333 Bulworth

But what if the female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf, etc has a gun? Most soldiers have guns I believe.

What if they are married to a gun?

336 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:29:28am

re: #333 Bulworth

But what if the female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf, etc has a gun? Most soldiers have guns I believe.

Only works if they are scary guns.

337 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:29:41am

re: #331 Lidane

Heh:

Who owns the Washington Post again?

338 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:30:10am

re: #329 FemNaziBitch

The capitalist in me cringes when I hear of a rare or collectible firearm being destroyed.

The others, I could care less.

You raise an important point. The collectibles should be sold to responsible collectors.

This stunt is wingnuts wanting to keep guns on the streets. These hopeless square-pegs think they’ll be better off if America collapses into gun violence.

339 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:30:23am

re: #332 Kragar

Swanson: Wombs of Women on Birth Control ‘Embedded’ with ‘Dead Babies’

OW. My brain just protested that fail violently. I think I need some LOLcats to make it feel better.

Female biology, how the fuck does it work?

340 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:30:29am

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

Who owns the Washington Post again?

Drawing a blank. Not sure if it stayed with Katharine Graham’s family after she died or not.

341 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:30:30am

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

Who owns the Washington Post again?

Master-Blaster


Sorry, couldn’t resist.

342 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:32:05am

re: #328 Sol Berdinowitz

Who makes up unions but for the working public?

These people seem to think that unions exist as the result of being imposed on working people by union bosses.

This is what the utterly irresponsible Republicans told them.

People are having trouble making a living because of these union parasites!

343 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:32:23am

re: #332 Kragar

Swanson: Wombs of Women on Birth Control ‘Embedded’ with ‘Dead Babies’

“certain doctors and certain scientists” known to the general populace as quacks

See, this is what’s scary about these people. They don’t only want Roe reversed. They want Griswold and Eisenstadt reversed too.

344 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:32:27am

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

Who owns the Washington Post again?

The Washington Post Company owns it. Berkshire Hathaway has a lot shares in it, though.

345 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:32:58am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

See, this is what’s scary about these people. They don’t only want Roe reversed. They want Griswold and Eisenstadt reversed too.

Pretty much everything since the Age of Enlightenment needs to be scrapped.

346 erik_t  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:33:01am

re: #332 Kragar

Swanson: Wombs of Women on Birth Control ‘Embedded’ with ‘Dead Babies’

“certain doctors and certain scientists” known to the general populace as quacks

Embryos. Are. Not. Babies.

347 Jolo5309  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:33:18am

re: #341 Kragar

Master-Blaster

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Great, now I am hearing the words to Plaster Caster

348 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:33:56am

re: #332 Kragar

Wow. The implications of this stunning “research” could be quite impactful. But first, do we have a record of these “women” and their wombs that were studied? And there would have to be many of these women with wombs so we could, you know, have a sufficient sample size from which to draw conclusions. Thousands of women participants would be required I think to regard the “research” findings of this study as sufficiently rigorous. And was the sample random?

349 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:34:13am

re: #345 Kragar

Pretty much everything since the Age of Enlightenment needs to be scrapped.

Having a second book caused a lot of confusion and problems, and it was all downhill from there.

350 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:34:49am

re: #346 erik_t

Embryos. Are. Not. Babies.

Also, unless she’s taken a lot of fertility drugs to help her conceive, a woman doesn’t have a bunch of tiny fetuses in her womb.

Eggs =/= fetuses. Also, what the fuck are ovaries again?

Jesus these people are fucking stupid.

351 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:35:01am

re: #345 Kragar

Pretty much everything since the Age of Enlightenment needs to be scrapped.

Sure as hell feels that way.

352 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:35:46am

re: #338 JeffFX

You raise an important point. The collectibles should be sold to responsible collectors.

This stunt is wingnuts wanting to keep guns on the streets. These hopeless square-pegs think they’ll be better off if America collapses into gun violence.

If they can only be sold through dealers, there would be the b/g check and no loophole to worry about. That’s basically what the new regulations seek to do when passed.

353 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:35:49am

re: #332 Kragar

Swanson: Wombs of Women on Birth Control ‘Embedded’ with ‘Dead Babies’

“certain doctors and certain scientists” known to the general populace as quacks

All these ladies have quit menstruating?

354 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:36:04am

The health implications from having “dead fetuses” in the womb are dire. Anyone who honestly believes this is an imbecile.

355 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:36:20am

re: #331 Lidane


A false-flag operation no doubt. Obviously paid off or threatened by Chicago Obummer thugs. //

356 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:36:45am

re: #350 Lidane

Also, unless she’s taken a lot of fertility drugs to help her conceive, a woman doesn’t have a bunch of tiny fetuses in her womb.

Eggs =/= fetuses. Also, what the fuck are ovaries again?

Jesus these people are fucking stupid.

Men’s property. Father, Brother, Uncle or Husband.

357 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:36:46am
358 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:37:08am

[Link: www.aljazeera.com…]
Outside the presidential palace in Cairo
At first I thought the green blips were just digital noise but it looks like they’re some sort of lasers

359 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:37:08am

re: #354 FemNaziBitch

The health implications from having “dead fetuses” in the womb are dire. Anyone who honestly believes this is an imbecile.

He makes a good case though through speaking for compulsory sex education in schools though.

360 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:37:21am

re: #354 FemNaziBitch

And the fetuses were perfectly formed, it sounds like. Remarkable. Just remarkable. //

361 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:37:38am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

He makes a good case though through speaking for compulsory sex education in schools though.

as well as the use of Contraception.

362 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:37:42am

re: #319 Jolo5309


“because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line”

He stole that from the Dead Milkmen
Link

Rule 34. be careful.

363 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:38:27am

re: #358 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.aljazeera.com…]
Outside the presidential palace in Cairo
At first I thought the green blips were just digital noise but it looks like they’re some sort of lasers

Damn, they just switched from live footage.

364 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:39:09am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

He makes a good case though through speaking for compulsory sex education in schools though.

Some people only exist to provide a bad example for others.

365 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:40:13am

re: #350 Lidane

If the next CPAC does not feature the published paper on this “research” the conference will have been an extreme disappointment. At a minimum, I expect these womb-examining researchers to be given prime speaking slots at the CPAC.

/

366 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:40:46am

re: #364 Kragar

Some people only exist to provide a bad example for others.

How is this person making a living? Is there really enough of a market to support this shit, or is he being subsidized somehow?

367 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:41:09am

re: #366 FemNaziBitch

How is this person making a living? Is there really enough of a market to support this shit, or is he being subsidized somehow?

Jerry Falwell did it for many years. Even got a university out of the deal.

368 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:41:33am

re: #327 Lidane

Arizona Group Seeks To Stop Police From Destroying Surrendered Guns

Every gun is sacred.
Every gun is grace.
If you ever destroy one, God gets quite irate.

:p

369 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:41:40am

re: #366 FemNaziBitch

How is this person making a living? Is there really enough of a market to support this shit, or is he being subsidized somehow?

Stupid Evangelicals who believe the Bible is the literal word of god will pay good money to have their illusions backed up.

370 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:42:07am

re: #332 Kragar

And naturally, our biased MSM won’t report important findings like this. Even Fox hasn’t covered the “lots of tiny little babies” story. //

371 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:42:16am
372 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:42:35am

re: #368 Feline Fearless Leader

Every gun is sacred.
Every gun is grace.
If you ever destroy one, God gets quite irate.

:p

Great, not grace. Its supposed to rhyme with irate.

373 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:42:51am

re: #371 Lidane

But, whites are the up and coming minority.

374 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:43:03am

re: #372 Kragar

Great, not grace. Its supposed to rhyme with irate.

picky, picky

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:43:21am

re: #341 Kragar

Master-Blaster

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Putting editoral disputes into Thunderdome makes the editorial positions a bit attritional, doesn’t it?

376 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:44:56am

re: #371 Lidane

What right wing racism?

Seems as though Black History Month is bringing out the racists more so this year.

377 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:46:15am

re: #205 Gus

IOW, yes he is & he’s pissed at you pointing it out in public.

378 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:46:19am

re: #376 Gus

What right wing racism?

Seems as though Black History Month is bringing out the racists more so this year.

Can’t have Black History Month without racists—they’re just re-enactors.

379 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:46:25am

re: #376 Gus

What right wing racism?

Seems as though Black History Month is bringing out the racists more so this year.

As we get better, they get worse, and not just relatively so.

380 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:46:48am
381 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:47:25am

re: #378 Decatur Deb

Can’t have Black History Month without racists—they’re just re-enactors.

Ha! Good one.

382 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:47:25am

re: #379 JeffFX

As we get better, they get worse, and not just relatively so.

true, yet they seem to be taking history and distorting it in some twisted self-delusion projecting it onto themselves.

383 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:48:04am

This Klan hood I’m wearing isn’t really me, I’m just a KKK reenactor.

//

384 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:48:12am

re: #382 FemNaziBitch

true, yet they seem to be taking history and distorting it in some twisted self-delusion projecting it onto themselves.

It works for everything else, why stop?

385 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:48:24am
386 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:50:10am

Have a great one al!

I missed my mid-morning nap the dogs are not happy.

387 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:50:27am

re: #382 FemNaziBitch

true, yet they seem to be taking history and distorting it in some twisted self-delusion projecting it onto themselves.

Yep, they put on a drama based on total fabrications to get attention and make themselves the center of their social world. I’m no college boy, but I believe this is called a histrionic personality disorder.

388 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:50:39am

re: #385 Lidane

Reality and modern conservatives, not exactly the best coupling.

389 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:51:27am

re: #385 Lidane

A feature, not a bug…

390 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:51:54am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Reality and modern conservatives, not exactly the best coupling.

391 Kragar  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:52:37am

Citizens United To Supreme Court: Landmark School Desegregation Case Was Wrong

Citizens United, the conservative group that successfully sued to enable wealthy corporations to buy elections, also has it in for same-sex couples. Yet an amicus brief they recently filed in the Supreme Court backing the unconstitutional Defense of Marriage Act would not simply deny marriage equality to gay people, it calls upon the Supreme Court to toss out a landmark decision ending public school segregation in the District of Columbia and declare that the federal government is free to discriminate against minorities and women:

OK, Citizens United is a hate group. I have no problem with making that claim any more.

392 Skeetghazi  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:53:12am
393 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:54:17am

re: #391 Kragar

Citizens United To Supreme Court: Landmark School Desegregation Case Was Wrong

OK, Citizens United is a hate group. I have no problem with making that claim any more.

White Straight Male Citizens United

394 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:54:24am
395 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:05am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of women to keep and bear arms for said militia shall be infringed.

396 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:12am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

Hey by letting women serve in combat, we’re opening combat service to lesbian Latina Eskimo dwarf cancer survivors(forget the rest of idiot Beck’s spill). Seriously, that’s a legitimate point. If you think women civilians should be able to own these weapons, why shouldn’t women be allowed to serve in combat?

397 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:19am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

Very bloody stupid, indeed.

398 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:29am

re: #392 Stanley Sea

Cognitive Dissonance is the hallmark of a Troo Patriyut™

399 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:33am

re: #391 Kragar

Citizens United To Supreme Court: Landmark School Desegregation Case Was Wrong

OK, Citizens United is a hate group. I have no problem with making that claim any more.

Must be National Racist Month.

400 iossarian  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:36am

re: #394 Lidane

Because blackity-black.

401 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:55:48am

re: #394 Lidane

so basically if Obama is for it the NRA is against it. Sounds eerily familiar…oh yeah it’s been the M.O. of the Republicans since Obama was elected.

402 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:56:59am

re: #399 Gus

Must be National Racist Month.

How come there’s no white history month? // Seriously, I’ve heard that asked. I mean I am inclined to agree with Morgan Freeman’s point about BHM but that’s because he’s actually making sense as opposed to parroting whiny right wing bullshit about how tough whitey has it these days.

403 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:58:08am

Some perfect examples today of the expected moderation of the right wing.

//

404 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:58:55am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

I’ve heard that question asked as well. Then I look at all the things we learned about history in school and most of them involved white people.

405 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:59:42am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

How come there’s no white history month? // Seriously, I’ve heard that asked. I mean I am inclined to agree with Morgan Freeman’s point about BHM but that’s because he’s actually making sense as opposed to parroting whiny right wing bullshit about how tough whitey has it these days.

Every month with 30 days or more.

406 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:59:57am

OT but I am always amused with how being pro gay rights is equated with being a Communist. We were discussing the idiot 49ers player who made the comment about how a gay teammate would not be welcomed on a forum for one of my favorite sports team and most of us agreed that Cullver at the very least was an idiot and that it would be no problem. So we had a drama queen accuse all of us of being anti-Christian commies. I think they’d be surprised if they saw the record of various Communist regimes on gay rights.

407 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:01:33am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

And what’s Morgan Freeman’s take on BHM?

408 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:01:36am

re: #404 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’ve heard that question asked as well. Then I look at all the things we learned about history in school and most of them involved white people.

Yeah it’s stupid. Honestly as a straight white dude, I am sick of people in my demographic complaining about minorities and women having more emphasis on their contribution to the American story. Kid brother was talking glowingly about Phyillis Wheatley, the first published black woman in the US.

409 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:02:41am

re: #407 Bulworth

And what’s Morgan Freeman’s take on BHM?

[Link: www.snopes.com…]
From Snopes. Morgan’s point is basically that black history is American history and it’s silly to separate it.

410 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:03:31am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.snopes.com…]
From Snopes. Morgan’s point is basically that black history is American history and it’s silly to separate it.

But no one else was willing to take the shortest month and get cheated out of two or three days!
//

411 Lidane  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:04:47am

And here I thought the RWNJs wanted to nuke the Middle East into a parking lot. Who knew?

412 Gus  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:06:06am

re: #411 Lidane

And here I thought the RWNJs wanted to nuke the Middle East into a parking lot. Who knew?

More Republican silliness.

413 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:06:07am

re: #411 Lidane

And here I thought the RWNJs wanted to nuke the Middle East into a parking lot. Who knew?

Remind me again why Marco Rubio is a “serious voice” and better yet why he should be treated as one. It’s fine he disagrees with Hagel but this rhetoric is a load of crap and he knows it.

414 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:07:24am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.snopes.com…]
From Snopes. Morgan’s point is basically that black history is American history and it’s silly to separate it.

He’s wrong until Black History is integrated with American History. My understanding is that Black History Month is one step in that direction

415 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:08:57am

re: #411 Lidane

Now I’m really confused….

416 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:09:05am

A few folks are tweeting that Newtown officials have decided to add armed guards to the schools there after this school year is done.

They’re going to be requesting federal and state reimbursement.

That’s an indication that the town doesn’t want to increase its own taxes to cover the costs, and are instead seeking federal and state funding to achieve their security goal. Watch that happen elsewhere in the country too.

But this isn’t the only kind of security measure that the town, or state of Connecticut are considering.

And security wont prevent guns from being brought in to a school, nor used in a school. All you have to do is see yesterday’s headlines to see how a student brought a handgun and nearly killed another student before being apprehended by a school guard in Georgia. The guard didn’t prevent the shooting, and some reports suggest that he had reloaded the gun before firing randomly and before he was apprehended. The school had two metal detectors, but it’s possible to avoid them since it’s a campus school - multiple buildings comprising the school property.

No, something has to be done besides put guards in the school (didn’t work), arm the school (didn’t work), fortify and install metal detectors (didn’t work).

417 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:09:49am

re: #414 JeffFX

He’s wrong until Black History is integrated with American History. My understanding is that Black History Month is one step in that direction

Yeah. True point. Anyhow, on that note, I really liked the unit we had on the Harlem Renaissance when I was in 11th grade. We read poems by Hughes, Cullen, McKay, and others. This poem by Dunbar from before the Harlem Renaissance is still one of my favorites.

We Wear the Mask

WE wear the mask that grins and lies,
It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes,—
This debt we pay to human guile;
With torn and bleeding hearts we smile,
And mouth with myriad subtleties.

Why should the world be over-wise,
In counting all our tears and sighs?
Nay, let them only see us, while
We wear the mask.

We smile, but, O great Christ, our cries
To thee from tortured souls arise.
We sing, but oh the clay is vile
Beneath our feet, and long the mile;
But let the world dream otherwise,
We wear the mask!

418 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:10:20am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Remind me again why Marco Rubio is a “serious voice” and better yet why he should be treated as one. It’s fine he disagrees with Hagel but this rhetoric is a load of crap and he knows it.

It’s all relative. A Republican would be better off listening to Rubio than if they had listened to a lot of other Republicans. Someone without that handicap should disregard them all.

419 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 11:54:27am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

NRO sinks to a new low.

Un fucking believable. I know the assholes at NRO define themselves entirely by the need to be in constant opposition to Obama … but goddamn.

There’s no doubt now: a good chunk of RWNJs are fascist Nazi admirers or are pandering to them.

Can we call them un-American now?


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