A Real Gem From the NPR Music Archives: Mavis Staples, NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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I’ve always loved Mavis from the first time I heard her amazing voice. This set from 2010 really shines, and I’m also super-impressed by guitarist Rick Homstrom’s tasteful, understated accompaniment.

We’ve been filming Tiny Desk concerts for more than 10 years. While revisiting our archives, we discovered that some of our earliest concerts never made it to YouTube!
Watch Mavis Staple’s Tiny Desk concert from 2010: https://www.npr.org/2010/08/09/129005693/mavis-staples-tiny-desk-concert

Bob Boilen | August 9, 2010
Mavis Staples is a legend, but she’s not stuck in the past. You probably know her work with her family band, The Staple Singers, which was all over the radio in the ’70s with hits like “Respect Yourself,” “Let’s Do It Again” and “I’ll Take You There” (which she excerpts in her performance here).

What you may not know is that Mavis Staples has been actively working with her fellow Chicago musician (and Wilco leader) Jeff Tweedy on her upcoming album, You Are Not Alone. Tweedy produced the record and wrote a few songs for her, as well — including the title track, which she sings here.

The album was recorded at Wilco’s studio, The Loft, and it includes songs by John Fogerty, Randy Newman, Rev. Gary Davis, Allen Toussaint and Pops Staples. You Are Not Alone also features a fine guest roster, including not only Tweedy (on bass, guitar and vocals), but also Nora O’Connor, Kelly Hogan and Wilco’s Patrick Sansone on keys and vibes.

Rick Holmstrom, the skilled guitarist who accompanies Staples here, also plays on the record and in her touring band. And while You Are Not Alone doesn’t come out until Sept. 14, you can get a good idea of what a treat it is by watching this stripped-down but soulful Tiny Desk concert.

Set List
“Only the Lord Knows”
“You Are Not Alone”
“I’ll Take You There”

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318 comments
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:13:37pm

GOTV

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:15:31pm

I love listening to her (Mavis) talk about her “almost” affair with Bob Dylan.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:19:05pm

Yes. At just this moment we were supposed to be at a family reunion. Now I know there’s a significant chance I’ll never see my 94yo father alive again.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:21:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:25:18pm

asshole

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:27:55pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:28:19pm

Uh huh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:29:02pm

really, y’all want to watch this
FT

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:29:11pm

Current mood.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:29:48pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I said “BULLSHIT!” the moment it came out of his mouth, and I was right.

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:30:49pm

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

Mother’s milestone B’day is coming up in a few days. Was supposed to have a big party. Now, of course we can’t be there.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:30:52pm

I really don’t get what Peter Thiel thinks he’ll get out of destroying democracy, but he’s doubling down.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:32:31pm

Holding a Black Lives Matter Sign in America’s Most Racist Town

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:33:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:34:41pm

re: #11 plansbandc

Mother’s milestone B’day is coming up in a few days. Was supposed to have a big party. Now, of course we can’t be there.

my mom will be 90 in February.
No way I’ll be going to North Carolina for that

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:38:10pm

I’m dying…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:39:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:41:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:42:41pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:43:08pm

re: #11 plansbandc

Mother’s milestone B’day is coming up in a few days. Was supposed to have a big party. Now, of course we can’t be there.

I’m so glad that I had my milestone birthday party in Florida ONE WEEK before everything went to shit. When our flight from Ft. Lauderdale landed at DTW the terminal was already shut down to all flights in & out of the Far East (not just CHYYNA).

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nines09  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:43:42pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Mitch wants to reach his core audience he needs this backdrop
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:43:45pm

re: #11 plansbandc

Mother’s milestone B’day is coming up in a few days. Was supposed to have a big party. Now, of course we can’t be there.

:(

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:46:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:46:49pm
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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:47:47pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit that is Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:49:52pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:52:28pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

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Video

I hadn’t heard of Harrison, Arkansas, so based on your post I googled. It seems that the city’s administrators have been doing battle with Wikipedia to erase its racist reputation. “Every time we delete certain descriptions they pop right back up.” Oh well.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:55:44pm

Sigh

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:56:57pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Fucker is such a fragile snowflake that he had to claim that he was going to throw out a pitch at the Yankees. One tiny detail - no one told the Yankees. Another detail: No one told his sycophantic staff either. So mad scramble.

And then to “save face” Trump spews nonsense about being too busy to throw out a pitch on the day he claims he was going to in August - all while heading to the golf course to play another round.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:57:54pm

re: #29 lawhawk

It’s just unreal. Every day, this shit.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:57:58pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I debated on getting one of those because they really look day-of-the-dead inspired, and there’s only so much cultural appropriation I’m willing to do.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:58:31pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:58:47pm

re: #12 Barefoot Grin

I really don’t get what Peter Thiel thinks he’ll get out of destroying democracy, but he’s doubling down.

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That’s pretty easy, actually. Thiel is delusional enough to think that he’d be one of the warlords in a post-apocalypse setting.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2020 • 5:59:22pm

I have an Eric Trump joke, but the best part was washed off the sheets.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:01:50pm

re: #34 nines09

I have an Eric Trump joke, but the best part was washed off the sheets.

There’s an Eric Trump joke I’ve been working on, but I always gum it up.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:03:22pm

re: #35 Barefoot Grin

There’s an Eric Trump joke I’ve been working on, but I always gum it up.

Think of his poor dentist.
“Uh…no.”

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:05:16pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

There’s no way to play football and not have massive outbreaks. There’s not going to be football this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:05:28pm

soooo, this just happened:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:07:36pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:08:32pm

Criminal activity or enemy action? It’s become hard to distinguish.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:10:56pm

re: #40 jaunte

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Criminal activity or enemy action? It’s become hard to distinguish.

The only difference between those two is that you shoot one and arrest the other, unless the person is black, and then you just shoot.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:13:25pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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There’s a certain comfort level that is reached in relationships with cartoonishly evil, narcissistic people.

You just imagine the worst possible thing that they could do in any given situation, and yep, sure enough, that’s what they do.

Here, we all heard that Fauci was getting to throw out the first pitch for the World-Champion Nationals, and sure enough, here came insecure little toddler Trump, screaming “No! But I’m throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, so I’m bigger and better! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE!”

When the election is over, he’s lost, and the little red lights on the cameras go out and everyone is laughing at what a loser he is, Trump will, for an instant, be the most miserable man on the planet.

That thought keeps me warm at night.

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Sinistershade  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:13:52pm

re: #11 plansbandc

re: #11 plansbandc

Mother’s milestone B’day is coming up in a few days. Was supposed to have a big party. Now, of course we can’t be there.

It’s been something of a blessing to be quarantined with my recently widowed 81-year-old mother. There’s no other way I would have gotten this time with her. But it’s been hard not to have seen my wife and daughter since Christmas.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:14:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:21:23pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:23:32pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

You gotta go lower. Most of us aren’t fit to shine Lewis’s shoes.

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nines09  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:23:34pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just ordered one. Go great with my evil eye and no bands around the ears.
Good night all.
A tune. Sleep well.

Harvest

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:23:44pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

I think the worst part is that this DoJ absolutely will too, despite 1) Facebook still allowing all sorts of other false and dangerous pro-Trump bullshit to pass, and 2) all sorts of other things Facebook deserves to be investigated for instead.

But no, dissent is treason, and to not worship Trump is the greatest crime against the state ever.

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Thanos  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:28:24pm

Mavis has a new album out, here’s the amazon link

amazon.com

proceeds all go to - “My block, My Hood, My City” a Chicago organization ensuring seniors have access to the essentials needed to fight COVID-19. More info here: formyblock.org

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:30:04pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:34:39pm

Remember this guy from the other day?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:36:31pm
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Mike Lamb  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:41:00pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Nah. The owners already treat their players as widgets. Season is happening come hell or high water.

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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:41:06pm

This is the only real response to anything that steaming fucking pile of shit Fuckface von Clownstick, says, writes, tweets, whatever for now on.

George Carlin Blow it out your ass

Everyone should just link that video, or type out the magic phrase, in response to any tweet of his and if I had a “following” or a “platform” I’d try to make it a thing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:41:07pm

This is the most insane thing you will see all minute:

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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:41:42pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:43:39pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

This is functionally no different to me than saying Boebert embraces domestic Al Qaeda movement.

#MakeTreasonOdiousAgain

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:46:23pm

The New York Times Pitchbot is one of my fave things on twitter. He is spot-on.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2020 • 6:47:01pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

soooo, this just happened:

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My grandmother’s sister’s gravestone has a version that goes: “It is a wise person who plants a tree under which he will never sit.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:00:10pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:07:04pm

re: #60 Dread Pirate

They’re turning the whole thing into a joke.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:07:34pm

re: #60 Dread Pirate

If that is the so-called “October Surprise”, it’s not going to save Trump’s behind.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:13:51pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:13:58pm

Meanwhile in Kansas…

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:21:28pm
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Mike Lamb  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:22:28pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

If that is the so-called “October Surprise”, it’s not going to save Trump’s behind.

I think you misunderstand. Moss and Zaid are definitely not doing that for Trump’s benefit. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be asking for the names of the individuals in the Trump admin.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:26:28pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:31:07pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:36:54pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:37:57pm

Rockwall has pushed back the start of school nine days for both virtual and in person. I have mentioned that I am in very red Texas:

While the deadline for the commitment period for In-Person or Remote Learning for students is next Monday, August 3, Senior Chief Financial Officer David Carter presented information to the Board of Trustees regarding the current selection trend and its impact on effective social distancing in school facilities. “To date, approximately 6,000 commitments have been received with 68% choosing In-Person learning and 32% choosing Remote Learning districtwide. Given social distancing standards of 6 feet, school campus capacity would essentially be cut in half. Should the selection for remote learning not increase, social distancing would be difficult to achieve given the number of families choosing In-Person Learning, especially at the high school level,” said David Carter.

Dr. Amy Ellis, Chief Curriculum & Instruction Officer, advised the Board of Trustees of the Texas Education Agency’s option for school districts to implement a hybrid learning model for students in grades 9-12 in addition to a remote instruction option. “A hybrid model for in-person instruction would help us reasonably achieve social distancing at our high schools where, if the current trend holds, we would be over the social distancing capacity by approximately 536 students at Rockwall High School and 185 students at Rockwall-Heath High School,” said Dr. Amy Ellis. Dr. Villarreal informed the Board of Trustees that the administration will watch the commitment numbers and an agenda item for a hybrid high school schedule may be on the August 3 Board meeting agenda for action should the trends continue.

We are keeping my son home specifically so that:
1. He’s not around the kids of parents who don’t take the virus seriously
2. He’s not taking up space that could be used to separate kids that have no choice but to be at school.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:40:39pm

re: #33 EPR-radar

That’s pretty easy, actually. Thiel is delusional enough to think that he’d be one of the warlords in a post-apocalypse setting.

Peter Thiel is too stupid to realize that the minute the Right seizes power they will come after him.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:42:14pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:49:41pm

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:53:44pm

Now for a cute doggy pic!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:54:02pm

re: #73 🌹UOJB!

Dogs would not put their paws on Trump.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:56:43pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 7:58:21pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:00:14pm

re: #72 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Everyone that has one of these childish tantrums in public right now should be put on the no fly list.

Do in a store, banned from the entire chain.

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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:01:23pm

re: #78 Jack Burton

How long you may ask?

Youtube Video

That’s how long.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:06:40pm

News we already knew

Washington (CNN)A National Guard official will tell Congress that the widely criticized decision to forcefully clear protesters from a park outside the White House last month was made even though demonstrators were acting peacefully, a view at odds with public comments by top Trump administration officials.

cnn.com

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:07:55pm

My brother-in-law is an E-9 in the Air Force, and is now part of the crew in DC that manages landings for public officials, like the president. He’s been stationed at a NATO base in Germany, so he’s kind of use to talking to people with status. Earlier today, Nancy Pelosi accompanied John Lewis’s casket back to DC. While it was being unloaded, my BIL walked up to her and carried on a conversation. My sister didn’t mention if he told her what he talked with Pelosi about, but he did say that looks on some of the faces around him when he walked up to her were priceless.

I would love to find a video of that.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:10:19pm

re: #80 Rightwingconspirator

News we already knew

cnn.com

NG Official: The protesters were just fine, it was the police and military that was the problem.
Democrat: So, your account matches the video?
NGO: Yes.
Republican: Why should we believe you, video evidence or not?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:12:56pm

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE… SPAAACE… SPAAAAAACE!!1!!!

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:13:57pm

re: #42 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

There’s a certain comfort level that is reached in relationships with cartoonishly evil, narcissistic people.

You just imagine the worst possible thing that they could do in any given situation, and yep, sure enough, that’s what they do.

Here, we all heard that Fauci was getting to throw out the first pitch for the World-Champion Nationals, and sure enough, here came insecure little toddler Trump, screaming “No! But I’m throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, so I’m bigger and better! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE!”

When the election is over, he’s lost, and the little red lights on the cameras go out and everyone is laughing at what a loser he is, Trump will, for an instant, be the most miserable man on the planet.

That thought keeps me warm at night.

And how you tried to make it work
Did you really think it could
How you tried to make it last
Did you really think it would

Like a guest who stayed too long
Now it’s finally time to leave
Yes, it’s finally time to leave
Take it calmly and serene
It’s the famous final scene

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:17:54pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:22:14pm

And for all the “OMG how will states/localities/whatever enforce mask laws?!?” people out there.

Easy. Tickets. Cops give those fucking things out like candy.

$1000 fine first offense. $5000 fine second offense. $10000 fine third. $50000 fine or jail time for any after that.

Hit people in their wallet and they will straighten up really fucking fast.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:27:41pm

re: #85 Dread Pirate

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My company: Great, we have this test. You are required to take it every day, recording to us that you took it. But don’t tell us the results unless you test 6 days in a row that you are positive. But you’re not required to test on the weekends.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:31:50pm

In which Barr grabs his tie like he’s doing Rodney Dangerfield.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:32:37pm

re: #87 Belafon

My company: Great, we have this test. You are required to take it every day, recording to us that you took it. But don’t tell us the results unless you test 6 days in a row that you are positive. But you’re not required to test on the weekends.

The test doesn’t turn positive until the virus is in the infectious level, your first positive is the day you can infect others. Waiting 6 days would be a mistake.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:42:15pm

re: #89 Dread Pirate

The test doesn’t turn positive until the virus is in the infectious level, your first positive is the day you can infect others. Waiting 6 days would be a mistake.

After we got our first employee that tested positive, the company put in place cleaning protocols, and allowed some people to work from home. This was only supposed to in place for two months until the virus was got under control. After 8 or so cases, they put in place mask protocols in public space. When we got to 20 cases, they started requiring masks in almost all places, including sitting in our cubes. We can only take them off when eating. We also have to do a daily online screen - basically a health questionnaire - and a temperature check at the door.

Their goal is to keep people safe but at work.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:46:11pm

Was this discussed earlier today? Apparently some reporter finally asked Trump whether he discussed the alleged Russian bounties with Putin, and surprise! his response was that he doesn’t reveal what he discussed — but he had plenty of discussion. Seems to me that reporters have to continue pursuing this but Trump has spent his life in spewing lies and denials and has escaped any repercussions.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:47:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:50:13pm

re: #92 Belafon

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:53:49pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:53:52pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:55:56pm

After reading the article, I have to agree with Chris, there’s no reason for her not to endorse Biden:

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 27, 2020 • 8:59:24pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

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I like to refer to the convergence as “Moonnuts” or “Wingbats”.
There are actually a few of them around. Cynthia McKinney is one such.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:04:23pm

re: #95 Belafon

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She’s 14 years old, assaulted by cops and Trump supporters have an orgasm watching thug cops beat the kid.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:08:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:12:54pm

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

“Golden Age”????????

Good grief, that is straight out of the most stereotypical mock-up of a dictator-wannabe one could imagine.

Promising a “golden age” is so empty that only his adulants could fall for it.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:14:36pm

re: #99 teleskiguy

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You can put someone up against the wall but if you do they will strike back and it won’t be pretty.

I got a feeling Republican Senators aren’t gonna like angry mobs coming after them…except for Ron Johnson…he’s stupid enough to have not gamed out the consequences…

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:17:37pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:18:35pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:20:26pm

23 million evicted people are going to come hunting for Republican Senators who screwed them over.

It’s not gonna look pretty.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:20:48pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:22:04pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Just as I expected there will be no Biden-Trump debates.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:25:18pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Just as I expected there will be no Biden-Trump debates.

I wasnt expecting them to be in person now. But I am imagining Trump having an audience at his half to cheer him on.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:27:26pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Just as I expected there will be no Biden-Trump debates.

If there is a demand for these debates, they can be handled remotely. There is no need for the candidates or the moderators to be at the same site. But Trump being unable to stalk his opponent would probably be a deal-breaker for him.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:28:16pm

re: #107 Belafon

I wasnt expecting them to be in person now. But I am imagining Trump having an audience at his half to cheer him on.

Then wait 2 weeks and see how many contract COVID…

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gwangung  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:28:31pm

re: #107 Belafon

I wasnt expecting them to be in person now. But I am imagining Trump having an audience at his half to cheer him on.

Then Biden’ll be given one (though it’s clear it’ll be more of a help to Trump).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:29:45pm

“The children in this hotel averted disaster only because we happened to hear about them before they were deported, yet hundreds if not thousands of other children are being sent back to harm in secret,” said Lee Gelernt, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union. “The government must stop expelling children in secret without giving them asylum hearings.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:43:39pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:48:03pm

Hey did Wayne La Pierre or anyone else from the Tiny Penis Club chime in yet about people defending themselves from a tyrannical government?

Do let me know!

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:50:34pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Too many people took political advice from Louise

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:51:43pm

re: #108 Hecuba’s daughter

If there is a demand for these debates, they can be handled remotely. There is no need for the candidates or the moderators to be at the same site. But Trump being unable to stalk his opponent would probably be a deal-breaker for him.

Trump needs the crowd.

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:54:11pm

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Trump needs the crowd.

Trump needs the props in the crowd.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:57:08pm

re: #95 Belafon

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This is a disgrace.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2020 • 9:59:08pm

re: #116 austin_blue

Trump needs the props in the crowd.

True. Personally, I think a remote debate would probably be a disaster for Trump.

Catching up on some news here, and I’m seeing the NFL has cancelled pre-season games. I agree with others that a cancellation of the regular season is probably next on the agenda. I wouldn’t be surprised if MLB ended up cancelling the season as well and possibly the NBA too.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:02:30pm

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

True. Personally, I think a remote debate would probably be a disaster for Trump.

Catching up on some news here, and I’m seeing the NFL has cancelled pre-season games. I agree with others that a cancellation of the regular season is probably next on the agenda. I wouldn’t be surprised if MLB ended up cancelling the season as well and possibly the NBA too.

They have a pretty strong union. If they don’t feel safe, they can stay home and still get paid.

Unlike the meat-processors.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:12:01pm

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

True. Personally, I think a remote debate would probably be a disaster for Trump.

Catching up on some news here, and I’m seeing the NFL has cancelled pre-season games. I agree with others that a cancellation of the regular season is probably next on the agenda. I wouldn’t be surprised if MLB ended up cancelling the season as well and possibly the NBA too.

Add in the NHL. Canada won’t allow players to cross the border.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:12:56pm

re: #117 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is a disgrace.

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A thought on that:

One of the things I think we need to start talking about is getting young people into the police forces. I’m talking about college graduates who would like to help their communities. I think one of the things the left has done is abandoned institutions like the police. We need to get more people in there.

I know we will need some police reform for this to work, but I think encouraging young adults from the left to join should become a priority.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:19:27pm
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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:21:19pm

There are rumors that Texas may start reclassifying deaths that were previously classified as “pneumonia” or “unknown” as COVID deaths,

It’s about damned time. Our deaths over previous timelines are in the thousands. Given that there have been no Sharknados, Rattlesnake Apocalypses, or Giant Tarantula Attacks, it seems pretty clear that the ‘rona is the culprit.

They won’t drop the bomb all at once, I suspect. It’ll be a hundred here, a hundred there,
Eventually catching up to the actual figures for the horrorshow in which we now are living.

Night all. Dog save us all..

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:26:30pm
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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:26:57pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:28:03pm

re: #120 🌹UOJB!

Add in the NHL. Canada won’t allow players to cross the border.

Yeah. With the Canadian-American border still closed, the NHL is gonna have one hell of a time too.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:32:18pm

re: #123 austin_blue

They won’t drop the bomb all at once, I suspect. It’ll be a hundred here, a hundred there ,eventually catching up to the actual figures for the horrorshow in which we now are living.

Night all. Dog save us all..

I’m confused how they are doing it, from Worldmeter.

US page
Texas page.
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Jack Burton  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:34:53pm

Bernie Bros are losing their collective shit on Twitter now because the DNC platform committee voted down M4A by… like a lot, in favor of putting public option back in the ACA.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:41:02pm

re: #125 Citizen K

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The Screw York Times wants 4 more years of Trump. They’ll continue to kiss his ass while they continually try to kneecap Joe.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:44:24pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:45:23pm

re: #128 Jack Burton

Bernie Bros are losing their collective shit on Twitter now because the DNC platform committee voted down M4A by… like a lot, in favor of putting public option back in the ACA.

Whatever respect I had for the Old Fart With A Bad Heart ended when I saw how his groupies trashed Elizabeth Warren during the primary. And now the Los Angeles DSA members are saying they’re going to repeat 2016 and back the Green Goon Hawkins if Nincompoop Turner isn’t named to be Joe’s running mate.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 10:53:35pm

re: #123 austin_blue

There are rumors that Texas may start reclassifying deaths that were previously classified as “pneumonia” or “unknown” as COVID deaths,

It’s about damned time. Our deaths over previous timelines are in the thousands. Given that there have been no Sharknados, Rattlesnake Apocalypses, or Giant Tarantula Attacks, it seems pretty clear that the ‘rona is the culprit.

They won’t drop the bomb all at once, I suspect. It’ll be a hundred here, a hundred there,
Eventually catching up to the actual figures for the horrorshow in which we now are living.

Night all. Dog save us all..

Someone put a link earlier where Texas has already reclassified 600 deaths as Covid related deaths.

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CarolJ  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:03:00pm

re: #99 teleskiguy

I don’t get these people. Just extend whatever we already have going on and wait until next January to make a decision about what to do. Either the virus would be under some kind of control or there could be time for some fix. Republicans are jonesing for another 20 years in the Presidential desert, and another 60 before they ever hold the House again.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:04:12pm

Truth

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:08:21pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:15:11pm

re: #135 Dread Pirate

I’d suggest that it’s time for the Portland Water Bureau to do a little maintenance on the water and sewer lines - particularly the lines connected to the U.S. courthouse there.

Get some guy in a hardhat and safety vest, along with his work crew, out there and tell the Feds at the courthouse, “Hey, uh, hate to tell ya, but we gotta do some serious maintenance here on the water and sewer lines. Looks like we’re gonna have to shut those lines off. Should take about 90 days or so to get it fixed.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:27:18pm

@tommychong has been giving the unicorn red rose far left hell. He’s not taking any shit from them, it’s pretty cool to see.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:30:28pm
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Kilroy was here  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:37:07pm

Let’s talk about what the 2021 school year might be like….

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2020 • 11:50:28pm

re: #124 Dread Pirate

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But remember, folks, it’s the House Dem bill that’s a “wish list.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:08:45am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:11:01am

Basically the Senate Repubs threw everything they could at this bill in the hopes of winning enough votes to get it through on either a party line vote (preferable) or a “bipartisan” one (just as acceptable), then having their friends in the “liberal media” do the heavy lifting of forcing Pelosi to put the bill to a vote in the House.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:25:29am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:29:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:40:14am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

The German government can refuse to accept his diplomatic credentials. So….someone needs to let the German government know about this asshat.

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ozharas  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:40:16am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

Iceland: cbsnews.com

The U.S. Ambassador to Iceland wanted to carry a gun.
Despite being assigned to one of the safest countries in the world, Jeffrey Ross Gunter has been “paranoid” about his security since coming to Reykjavik last year, according to a dozen diplomats, government officials, former officials and individuals familiar with the situation. As a result, Gunter wanted the State Department to obtain special permission from the Icelandic government for him to have a firearm. They say he also wanted door-to-door armored car service, and entertained the idea of wearing a “stab-proof vest.”

And, 7 Deputy Chiefs since May 19

Since his nomination in May 2019, Gunter has created an increasingly “untenable” working environment at the Embassy in Reykjavik, according to current and former diplomats familiar with the situation. He has already had seven Deputy Chiefs of Mission (DCM’s), experienced Foreign Service Officers who traditionally serve in the number-two job.

The first deputy prepared for more than a year and spent months learning Icelandic, only to be blocked from coming to post because, according to a State Department official, Gunter reportedly “didn’t like the look of him” at their introductory meeting. The second DCM made it to Iceland, but only lasted six months.

and so much more….

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:11:47am

re: #131 🌹UOJB!

Whatever respect I had for the Old Fart With A Bad Heart ended when I saw how his groupies trashed Elizabeth Warren during the primary. And now the Los Angeles DSA members are saying they’re going to repeat 2016 and back the Green Goon Hawkins if Nincompoop Turner isn’t named to be Joe’s running mate.

I think what gets me is while pundits wasted time yesterday suggesting that Harris wouldn’t be the VP pick because she didn’t feel any regret for the way she treated Biden in the debates, Berners are demanding that the woman who compared voting for Biden as “eating a bowl of shit” be his running mate.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:15:29am

re: #127 Dread Pirate

I’m confused how they are doing it, from Worldmeter.

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In the past, Worldometer has retro’ed corrections into the total of the day they occurred, not the day the correction was made. They pretty much smooth-in.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:23:21am

re: #128 Jack Burton

Bernie Bros are losing their collective shit on Twitter now because the DNC platform committee voted down M4A by… like a lot, in favor of putting public option back in the ACA.

M4A, ACA+, or something new are all just style issues. The goal is to get some kind of baseline healthcare security into the hands of everyone. Set the platform goal, and execute whatever the election results and economic crash permit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:27:32am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

M4A, ACA+, or something new are all just style issues. The goal is to get some kind of baseline healthcare security into the hands of everyone. Set the platform goal, and execute whatever the election results and economic crash permit.

Dems might do well to point out to the Berners that millions of Americans without health insurance right now due to job loss don’t want a “perfect” M4A system 4 years from now, they want their insurance back now. That we need to get people covered today, not offer them “free” health care half a decade away.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:28:33am

re: #150 Targetpractice

Dems might do well to point out to the Berners that millions of Americans without health insurance right now due to job loss don’t want a “perfect” M4A system 4 years from now, they want their insurance back now. That we need to get people covered today, not offer them “free” health care half a decade away.

Get thee behind me, thou foul incrementalist.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:29:59am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Get thee behind me, thou foul incrementalist.

The power of Bernie compels you! The power of Bernie compels you!

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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:45:39am

re: #121 Belafon

A thought on that:

One of the things I think we need to start talking about is getting young people into the police forces.

Won’t work.

Look at what happened to Alex Kueng, involved in the murder of George Floyd within days of starting the job, having been trained by Chauvin.

Any young person thrown into the existing police system will be corrupted by the existing environment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:46:35am

hi

Extremely local news: My wife bought one of those Cadillac bidet replacement toilet seats which arrived yesterday. She tried installing it today (she’s the DIY person here) and the hose wouldn’t properly connect to the toilet tank. Summon me because I’m tiny and can get into small spaces.

I twist myself into a pretzel to figure out why the hose isn’t in correctly, and it seemed the connector was cross-threaded to our brand-new toilet tank guts only installed last week.

I spent more than an hour trying to thread this thing onto the toilet tank with no joy. I finally gave up, and called the plumber. He will call tomorrow to make an appointment, which will cost between $200 to $300 to come out to our house to fix this, assuming he doesn’t need to go looking again for an antique toilet pump.

So for now it’s flush the toilet with a bucket of water.

In the meantime, there was one new Covid-19 case diagnosed in the Nebraska Panhandle. There are still no cases in my village, but every other town has at least one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:50:31am

re: #131 🌹UOJB!

Whatever respect I had for the Old Fart With A Bad Heart ended when I saw how his groupies trashed Elizabeth Warren during the primary. And now the Los Angeles DSA members are saying they’re going to repeat 2016 and back the Green Goon Hawkins if Nincompoop Turner isn’t named to be Joe’s running mate.

I don’t know what the difference is between the Los Angeles DSA and the Nebraska DSA. Probably because we’ve been under the boot of conservatism so long we’ll take any improvement here.

The DSA goal here is to get Trump and as many of his enablers out of office now, which advances the DSA’s goals anyway. I guess we’re just more pragmatic here.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 1:57:03am

re: #153 John Hughes

Won’t work.

Look at what happened to Alex Kueng, involved in the murder of George Floyd within days of starting the job, having been trained by Chauvin.

Any young person thrown into the existing police system will be corrupted by the existing environment.

When we would get trapped into analyzing ethical failures in the Army, we usually wound up at a truism: “The Army reflects the society it is drawn from.” The same is likely true of the many, varied, police forces.

For our sins.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:06:51am

E21 - Jordan Corbin Talks about Getting Arrested in Omaha for Protesting (Podcast of Seeing Red Nebraska, 59:48)

As a march was ending, Omaha Police decided to detain and arrest over 120 people on July 25, 2020, after trapping them on a bridge downtown. Jordan Corbin was one of those people. He tells his story of a night that started out as a protestor walking down the street to being pepper sprayed, arrested, shoved into an awful smelling cell with 40+ other men, going to solitary, and administrative setbacks that left him in jail for hours after his $500 bail was posted.

We also spoke with Natalie Weiss who has been working in both Lincoln and Omaha getting protestors out of jail by fundraising and posting bail.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:09:22am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

When we would get trapped into analyzing ethical failures in the Army, we usually wound up at a truism: “The Army reflects the society it is drawn from.” The same is likely true of the many, varied, police forces.

For our sins.

We had the same in the Navy. The goal was to take what was “the society you were from” and turning that into “the society the US Navy wants in the Fleet.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:19:01am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We had the same in the Navy. The goal was to take what was “the society you were from” and turning that into “the society the US Navy wants in the Fleet.”

Yep. You can do that, but it’s expensive of dollars and retention. For all its faults the DoD is one of the places a minority of any kind has the best chance of advancing on merit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:21:09am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

When we would get trapped into analyzing ethical failures in the Army, we usually wound up at a truism: “The Army reflects the society it is drawn from.” The same is likely true of the many, varied, police forces.

For our sins.

About a month ago, religion counter-apologists on YouTube Jimmy Snow and Telltale Atheist tried to paint the military as a cult (Telltale uses the BITE model to score cults; he’s scored everything from the Catholic Church to the Republican Party on that scale).

They had a caller who allegedly was a Marine in Colorado claiming the military is a cult.

I wrote back to point out that wasn’t so and why; they did not return a response (which they claim they will do).

What I wrote:

Mr. Atheist and Telltale,

I found your chat clip with the Marine from Colorado interesting, on whether you considered the military a cult (it appeared to me you felt it was that way).

I wish to clear up things I saw in that clip.

I served in the US Navy for seventeen years enlisted (including time as a Navy Recruiter), until I became disabled. An example you used on the show was military personnel and veterans sometimes being poorly treated for disablements such as PTSD, and you placed the blame for this on the military.

This is misdirected blame. The military and the Veterans Administration spends its money and promotes programmes based on what the US Congress both tells it to do and how Congress funds them. If Congress fails to provide sufficient personnel, equipment, or money for programmes such as mental health or other disabilities because Congress considers them of less worth than say combat training or weaponry, then those programmes will be underfunded, underequipped, and understaffed. The military can only do what Congress allows it to do, and the same goes for the Veterans Administration.

The blame lies in who voters put in Congress and those congressmen and women’s priorities for the military. The military’s doctrine since the founding of the nation has been its subservience to the civilian government, which in turn is put in place by the voters. If the elected government of the United States says it will not fund a programme designed to treat PTSD for example, and a general or admiral says “Well too bad, we’re going to use this money you gave us for that instead of what you put in the federal budget,” at that instant you have a mutiny of the military against the civilian elected government. You don’t want the military making those decisions, military dictatorships rarely turn out well for civilian populaces.

If you are unfamiliar with him, there is a retired Navy Intelligence officer on Twitter named Jim Wright (he goes by the handle Stonekettle). He frequently notes “if you want a better nation, be better citizens.” We don’t have Trump as President because the military turned out en masse to make him President. That’s on all the voters, the overwhelming majority of whom are civilians who never served in the military.

You also brought up the idea that some military personnel or veterans might go around thinking “well, we’re better than you because you are a civilian.” I believe you can find that sort of culty attitude in every profession, group, religion, or clique of people everywhere in the world throughout time.

What concerns me more is the way civilians treat military personnel with that sort of deference. Think the phrase “thank you for your service.’ A huge number of veterans hate that phrase and wish civilians would not use it. (I prefer “welcome home” myself.) The endless fetishization of the military comes from civilians.

Consider how many military observances there are on the federal calendar. There is the birthday of each military service, Memorial Day for those fallen in battle, Armed Forces Day for those serving in the active and reserve forces, and Veterans Day for those who served in the past, all listed in the US Flag Code. There are also military observances in the US Flag Code such as VE Day, VJ Day, and Pearl Harbor Day. Those days were designated by the civilian elected government, not the military.

Now compare those to days to honour civilian services. Is there a Peace Corps day? A peacemakers day? A Diplomats’ Day? Teachers’ Day? Doctors’ Day? Where is the clamouring from voters to honour the peacemakers and giving them federal holidays? Is the cult the military, or the society at large which fetishizes military service?

You also brought up the idea you could enlist under one presidency (such as Obama) and end up serving part of your enlistment under another (such as Trump). The thing is, one doesn’t swear or affirm to uphold the President. One swears or affirms to uphold the Constitution and the orders of the officers appointed over you. Those officers are appointed by the elected officials of Congress, not the military. Additionally, officers swear to carry out their duties with no mental reservations, thus may resign their commission at any time. (An enlisted person in theory could be drafted and have a whole lot of mental reservations about military service, thus they are not held to the standard of “no mental reservations.”)

A military member is obligated to disobey an unlawful order by law as set forth by the elected government. Military personnel receive training on what constitutes lawful orders.

Unlike a religious cult such as Heaven’s Gate or Jehovah’s Witnesses, the rules for the military are laid down in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, a set of laws passed by the elected Congress which governs all military behaviour. The same UCMJ also lays out the rights of military personnel and how they should be treated if they break one of the articles in the UCMJ. Punishments or admonitions are not arbitrary or capricious. The articles are crimes in the UCMJ, some of which have no equivalent in civilian law (such as forcing surrender, contempt for government officials, or sleeping on watch) due to the nature of military service. Unlike a religious cult where the leaders can arbitrarily punish a member for a perceived infraction, military law requires following the rules of evidence and procedure of a courts-martial as laid down by the elected civilian officials of Congress. They are similar to civilian courts in that manner. That is vastly different than a cult, unless Congress writing laws and voters electing representatives and senators constitutes a cult.

Does the military change a person if that person is in the military long enough? Sure. Does Microsoft change a person if they work for Microsoft long enough? I would argue the same. Change is part of life, regardless of the path one takes; lack of change is stagnation.

Finally, you noted in passing that dying in following orders is potentially part of military service. It is also part of fire brigades, police forces, physicians and nurses dealing with new and deadly outbreaks of disease, race car driving, skiing, &c. Putting your life on the line for a goal you consider important is not new to human culture, and is not evidence of a cult.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:28:48am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Every organization as large as a cub scout pack is a cult if someone wants it to be. Outsiders don’t see the diversity within the military based on unit (or ship) personality and even MOS. Units like the 24ID and its 11 Bravos tried to recreate the ancient Cult of the Warrior with mixed success.

Don’t get me started on the Airborne or SOF.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:39:43am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Every organization as large as a cub scout pack is a cult if someone wants it to be. Outsiders don’t see the diversity within the military based on unit (or ship) personality and even MOS. Units like the 24ID and its 11 Bravos tried to recreate the ancient Cult of the Warrior with mixed success.

Don’t get me started on the Airborne or SOF.

In the Navy there is a lot of pride associated with a particular aircraft squadron or ship, based on those commands’ past performance. The idea is to live up to the achievements of the command. Such goals do not make a command or a military service a cult.

The Army and the Navy have a long storied history of achievements despite what seemed to be overwhelming odds. Living up to those achievements do not make either a cult.

There seems to be quite a number of people who think military service is a sort of cult. I reject that characterisation. The military requires certain behaviour from its personnel, because those behaviours are necessary to achieve military goals. Failure to follow procedure or orders often winds up in dead personnel.

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Nojay UK  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:48:22am

re: #141 Dread Pirate

Re: larding up bills with unconnected spending

It’s in the Constitution, any and all Government spending has to come from Congress in the form of legislation i.e. a “bill”. There’s lots of spending because Government, duh! but only so much time for Congress to create and pass bills so this kind of lard is regularly added to other bills to get the money for stuff allocated.

It seemed like a good idea 250 years ago that Congress should control all the spending when the only military forces the Government was committed to was the Coastguard and the Navy, and other spending was miniscule compared to today’s America. Other nations have a better grasp of modern realities, the US has an ancient and creaking Constitution the Legislature and Executive have to find workarounds for.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:48:32am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The personnel cycle pretty much fights that kind of identity in the Army. By his 4th PCS into a new unit a sergeant can recite the commander’s welcoming speech by heart: “Finest unit and most dedicated group of soldiers it has ever been my privilege to serve with”.

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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:52:00am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Units like the 24ID and its 11 Bravos tried to recreate the ancient Cult of the Warrior with mixed success.

Ugh. Warriors.

Warriors are what soldiers defeat. See WW2 for example.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 2:53:30am

re: #165 John Hughes

Ugh. Warriors.

Warriors are what soldiers defeat. See WW2 for example.

“Mixed” I’ve seen it go very bad.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 3:07:58am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

True. Personally, I think a remote debate would probably be a disaster for Trump.

Catching up on some news here, and I’m seeing the NFL has cancelled pre-season games. I agree with others that a cancellation of the regular season is probably next on the agenda. I wouldn’t be surprised if MLB ended up cancelling the season as well and possibly the NBA too.

nowhere to run nowhere to hide

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 3:19:21am

One of the reasons that the Repubs seemed to think that things would be “normal” by the fall was that all the major sports leagues would either have restarted their seasons or (for the fall sports) getting ready to start up. Now it looks like all the leagues may end up finally acknowledging reality and canceling for the rest of the year. When that becomes the case, another traditional late-election distraction evaporates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 3:51:54am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

The personnel cycle pretty much fights that kind of identity in the Army. By his 4th PCS into a new unit a sergeant can recite the commander’s welcoming speech by heart: “Finest unit and most dedicated group of soldiers it has ever been my privilege to serve with”.

Same in the Navy. The same also goes during a retirement ceremony.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:01:13am
Assumption Greek Orthodox Church’s Greek Festival downsized this year due to COVID-19-related concerns. For this reason, the church is calling its 94th annual festival “Mikró Greek Festival 2020”—“Mikro” being the Greek word for “small.”

Its main difference from previous years is the food. This year there will not be various booths set up at Bridgeport’s Prairie Winds Community Center with a variety of Greek food choices. Instead, interested people can pre-order their food from a limited menu by Aug. 2 to pick up on Aug. 8 at a tent located at the center’s parking lot.

Festival Committee Chairman Nicole Dean said while they weren’t necessarily concerned about the virus itself, they were concerned about planning for the number of people who would have decided to show up, which is why the organizers made the decision to go the pre-ordering route.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, Annual Greek Festival reduced to a smaller scale, online ordering

On-line ordering isn’t going to work so well here, since most people in the county have no Internet service or access to cell service.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:12:03am

Whelp, I have a warning from my paranoiaware that the password I use here is the same as the password I use at another site, and that site was compromised. The recommendation is change the password here.

I’m using Internet Exploder 11, isn’t that enough already? /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:16:10am

re: #51 gocart mozart

Remember this guy from the other day?

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I see from his bio at the link that he is also a Q-loon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:16:28am

Okay, here’s an apologetic I haven’t read or seen before: Libertarianism deflates atheism.

I’ve never heard that one before. I’m going to have to do a deep dive into that video on YouTube.

My wife the ex-Libertarian notes “it is to laugh.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:17:43am

re: #51 gocart mozart

Remember this guy from the other day?

Twitter doesn’t support my browser (sad face)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:20:29am

re: #51 gocart mozart

Remember this guy from the other day?

Okay, using a different browser to look at that tweet: Bye asshat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:23:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:28:07am

I’m off to bed. I’ll leave you with this:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:32:12am
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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:43:14am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE… SPAAACE… SPAAAAAACE!!1!!!

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He misspelled “gilded”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:44:41am

This is a really good read.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 4:54:13am

PLAY BALL!

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Alephnaught  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:11:19am

Good news from Scotland. It’s now been 12 days since a recorded COVID-19 death. (Counted as death after a positive COVID-19 test within the past 28 days.)

Also, Wales and Northern Ireland have not recorded any deaths. (for over a fortnight in Northern Ireland’s case.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:12:33am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:14:54am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boy, that’s really both-sidering in a stupidly spectacular way.

Do better, for crying out loud.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:18:05am
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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:19:20am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:22:42am

Now we get to watch the endless speculation from network pundits about how refusal to take the Senate Repub bill as-is will hurt the Dems with voters, rather than asking why the fuck can’t Mitch just put the House Dem bill to a vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:26:36am

something JD Vance knows nothing about.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:28:26am

Fucking lunatic Trump is fucking lunatic (day… I’ve lost count):

We have premier health experts in the world, and Trump Jr highlights this lunatic to daddy and Dad’s all like yeah, this is what I’m talking about.

This is the most corrupt, addled, incompetent and criminal admin in our history.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:29:51am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 5:31:23am

Well hell, they’re actually making it, I thought it was just a myth:

STALKER 2 - Official Trailer | Xbox Showcase 2020

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:04:23am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:12:14am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:15:48am

re: #199 Belafon

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This honestly is why I’m optimistic about Biden’s chances, because all the conventional wisdom is falling apart. In particular, you would expect an incumbent to try to stem any bleeding, but Trump keeps cutting open arteries because he believes he can drown the opposition in his blood.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:23:24am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:25:35am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Damn. Brilliant letter, Mouse. You have a gift, keep those letters coming.

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mmmirele  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:44:44am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I thought the number for “Evangelical” was pretty shocking: 49 percent as opposed to 62 percent for non-Evangelical, 80 percent for Atheist and 72 percent for non-Protestant/Catholic. But I’m not surprised.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:53:45am

re: #203 mmmirele

I thought the number for “Evangelical” was pretty shocking: 49 percent as opposed to 62 percent for non-Evangelical, 80 percent for Atheist and 72 percent for non-Protestant/Catholic. But I’m not surprised.

“God will take care of us.”
“But people are getting sick at church.”
“As I said, God will take care of us.”

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 6:54:16am

re: #203 mmmirele

I thought the number for “Evangelical” was pretty shocking: 49 percent as opposed to 62 percent for non-Evangelical, 80 percent for Atheist and 72 percent for non-Protestant/Catholic. But I’m not surprised.

Shocking?

Nope. And I got first hand evidence from my brainwashed Xtain family who refuse to wear masks because Jesus will protect them. Oh and they do live in that part of Red Pennsylvania that wants Democrat Tom Wolf impeached for being a Democrat!

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:01:07am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

About a month ago, religion counter-apologists on YouTube Jimmy Snow and Telltale Atheist tried to paint the military as a cult (Telltale uses the BITE model to score cults; he’s scored everything from the Catholic Church to the Republican Party on that scale).

They had a caller who allegedly was a Marine in Colorado claiming the military is a cult.

I wrote back to point out that wasn’t so and why; they did not return a response (which they claim they will do).

What I wrote:

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:03:15am

I’m sitting here, genuinely asking myself if I want to subject my mind to the endless bullshit that will be Barr’s testimony. I just know that it’s going to be him lying his ass off to Dems while Repubs use their time to attack everything and everybody remotely perceived as an “enemy” of Trump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:12:51am

Lmao Twitter limited Jr.’s for some bullshit he posted. I can’t wait for his reaction. 😂😂🤣

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:15:30am

re: #180 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is a really good read.

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Wow that is an outstanding assessment of reopening schools

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:17:35am

re: #207 Targetpractice

I’m sitting here, genuinely asking myself if I want to subject my mind to the endless bullshit that will be Barr’s testimony. I just know that it’s going to be him lying his ass off to Dems while Repubs use their time to attack everything and everybody remotely perceived as an “enemy” of Trump.

I can’t handle hearing that smug-ass voice. I’ll wait for the distillation.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:21:32am

re: #193 Targetpractice

Now we get to watch the endless speculation from network pundits about how refusal to take the Senate Repub bill as-is will hurt the Dems with voters, rather than asking why the fuck can’t Mitch just put the House Dem bill to a vote.

Today’s electoral-vote.com

If absolutely nothing gets done, the Democrats will not be happy, but they will also be able to say “We were ready to work on this a month ago, while McConnell & Co. were spending all their time approving judges. And now, we are not going to back down on protecting American workers and families, especially since Republicans seem to be primarily concerned with protecting business owners and their lunchtime martinis.”

More comments there as to how the Rs have almost no leverage here

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:22:07am

re: #208 GlutenFreeJesus

Lmao Twitter limited Jr.’s for some bullshit he posted. I can’t wait for his reaction. 😂😂🤣

Well I’m still participating in the Twitter boycott thru today and I’ll go back to tweeting on Wednesday because when it comes to Q and antisemitism @jack is a jerk.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:25:18am

re: #211 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Today’s electoral-vote.com

More comments there as to how the Rs have almost no leverage here

They never have leverage, and yet it’s the Dems that the media thinks need to “compromise” when this 11th hour-style horseshit happens. Instead of the pressure being on the Repubs to give ground or even accept that their bill is shite, it’s Dems who are under pressure to convince the voters that their bill is the better of the two. Or (Zod help us) it’s Dems who have to break from their “radical” base and “meet in the middle.”

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:26:04am

Stick around til the end, it’s not what you think.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:26:39am

re: #196 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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when murdock is gone, his sons / the brothers are going to have to figure out what to do to broaden the audience and that could lead to big fights about the future direction of the channel, especially since Lachlan is much more conservative than James

James and his wife just gave $2m to the dems

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:30:03am

re: #199 Belafon

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They’re gassing and arresting white protesters. Moms, kids, and others clearly who are not a threat.

They are seeing that yes, they could be George Floyd

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:33:42am

re: #207 Targetpractice

I’m sitting here, genuinely asking myself if I want to subject my mind to the endless bullshit that will be Barr’s testimony. I just know that it’s going to be him lying his ass off to Dems while Repubs use their time to attack everything and everybody remotely perceived as an “enemy” of Trump.

There will be no surprises
Save yourself
Read about it later

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:35:43am

re: #217 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

There will be no surprises
Save yourself
Read about it later

Think I’ll just split the difference and read one of the (undoubtedly many) live tweet threads about it. Those seemed to be more interesting during the impeachment than the actual testimony.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:36:44am

re: #213 Targetpractice

They never have leverage, and yet it’s the Dems that the media thinks need to “compromise” when this 11th hour-style horseshit happens. Instead of the pressure being on the Repubs to give ground or even accept that their bill is shite, it’s Dems who are under pressure to convince the voters that their bill is the better of the two. Or (Zod help us) it’s Dems who have to break from their “radical” base and “meet in the middle.”

I don’t see them conceding on UI benefits or eer liability

“We’ve been sitting at the table for a month waiting for you to show up while you argued with yourselves” may just work this time

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:40:01am

re: #208 GlutenFreeJesus

Lmao Twitter limited Jr.’s for some bullshit he posted. I can’t wait for his reaction. 😂😂🤣

It was some bullshit scam video about (you guessed it) Hydroxychloroquine.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:40:01am

Gave blood on Saturday. Hematocrit right on the minimum line!

They test for covid.

I’m still negative.

Mrs dm says I can stay.
For another 56 days at least

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:40:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:42:12am

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

If I were a conspiracy theorist that might make me raise an eyebrow.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:42:13am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:42:27am

re: #219 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I don’t see them conceding on UI benefits or eer liability

“We’ve been sitting at the table for a month waiting for you to show up while you argued with yourselves” may just work this time

The problem is that the Repubs aren’t going to budge, they’re actually under pressure from their own nutters to just not pass a bill at all. Welcome to the Second Great Recession, where the party in power thinks that “the invisible hand” of the free market will magically lead to not only a booming recovery, but will wipe out the virus through “herd immunity” by forcing people back to work through threat of cutting them off entirely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:44:13am

re: #225 Targetpractice

The problem is that the Repubs aren’t going to budge, they’re actually under pressure from their own nutters to just not pass a bill at all. Welcome to the Second Great Recession, where the party in power thinks that “the invisible hand” of the free market will magically lead to not only a booming recovery, but will wipe out the virus through “herd immunity” by forcing people back to work through threat of cutting them off entirely.

Umm, forcing them back to work WHERE? We don’t exactly have a surplus of jobs these days.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:44:20am

What is it about putting on a facemask that so triggers the angry rednecks? I know, I know - the way to get white trash to do something is to tell them they can’t, I get it, they’ve got oppositional defiant disorder way past the time they were supposed to grow out of it as toddlers, but sheesh … self-preservation? Not important?

Is there some deep fear of emasculation that gets triggered by taking safety precautions? Like real he-men don’t care about safety because they’re so tough and manly?

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:48:24am

re: #227 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What is it about putting on a facemask that so triggers the angry rednecks? I know, I know - the way to get white trash to do something is to tell them they can’t, I get it, they’ve got oppositional defiant disorder way past the time they were supposed to grow out of it as toddlers, but sheesh … self-preservation? Not important?

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Is there some deep fear of emasculation that gets triggered by taking safety precautions? Like real he-men don’t care about safety because they’re so tough and manly?

It’s the end result of 45 consecutive years of brainwashing by the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine’s message that St. Pruneface endlessly uttered, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help…”

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:49:01am

re: #227 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What is it about putting on a facemask that so triggers the angry rednecks? I know, I know - the way to get white trash to do something is to tell them they can’t, I get it, they’ve got oppositional defiant disorder way past the time they were supposed to grow out of it as toddlers, but sheesh … self-preservation? Not important?

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Is there some deep fear of emasculation that gets triggered by taking safety precautions? Like real he-men don’t care about safety because they’re so tough and manly?

Probably: and also a healthy* dose of “I’m not going to wear a mask just because some America-hating, baby-killing libtard elitist snot with an MD degree says so!”. Oppositional Defiant Disorder indeed….

*this word is used sarcastically

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:50:56am

re: #227 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

We like to make that joke, and the joke is mostly there, but the whole reason is “I won’t listen to some librul Demorat sodialist scientiest tell me what to do! Those evil Democrats just want to destroy my way of life. Why do I care if others get sick? Let God sort ‘em out.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:52:06am

re: #230 Belafon

We like to make that joke, and the joke is mostly there, but the whole reason is “I won’t listen to some librul Demorat sodialist scientiest tell me what to do! Those evil Democrats just want to destroy my way of life. Why do I care if others get sick? Let God sort ‘em out.”

“Reality has a well known liberal bias”

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:53:13am

re: #229 Jay C

Probably: and also a healthy* dose of “I’m not going to wear a mask just because some America-hating, baby-killing libtard elitist snot with an MD degree says so!”. Oppositional Defiant Disorder indeed….

*this word is used sarcastically

They will continue to utter that bullshit just like the post I did yesterday about the gay Texas conservative who said Covid was a hoax, invited his whole family for a gathering…then he came down with Covid…and several family members did as well including a couple who died…and he’s still a hard core conservative who opposes Obamacare…

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stpaulbear  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:55:16am

Breaking at WaPo: Twitter penalizes Donald Trump Jr. for posting hydroxychloroquine misinformation amid coronavirus pandemic

On Monday evening, Facebook scrubbed from its site a viral video showing a group of doctors making misleading and false claims about the coronavirus pandemic after more than 14 million people had watched it. Hours later, President Trump tweeted out multiple clips of the same video to his 84.2 million followers.

Trump shared the video — which claims that face masks and shutdowns are not needed to stop the spread of the virus — as he shared 14 tweets over a half-hour span defending the use of hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug that the president has repeatedly promoted, and attacking Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-diseases expert.

Twitter soon followed Facebook and YouTube in removing the videos, deleting several of the tweets that Trump shared, and even adding a note to its trending topics warning about the potential risks of hydroxychloroquine use.

“Tweets with the video are in violation of our covid-19 misinformation policy,” Liz Kelley, a spokeswoman for Twitter, told The Washington Post.

Shortly after, Donald Trump Jr. shared the same video on his Twitter, but his account was penalized for violating the site’s covid misinformation policies. The tweet must be deleted, a Twitter spokesperson said, and his account will have “limited functionality” for 12 hours.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:56:01am

re: #214 makeitstop

Stick around til the end, it’s not what you think.

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HELP! :-)

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:56:36am

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Umm, forcing them back to work WHERE? We don’t exactly have a surplus of jobs these days.

I remember wingnuts insisting in the dark days of 2009 that there were jobs everywhere and the only people who weren’t working either “weren’t looking hard enough” or “are too lazy to get a job.”

Tailgunner Ted was out there just the other day, insisting that all sorts of businesses in Texas want to reopen, but their owners insist all the employees are too comfy on UEI to come back to work. That’s the mindset we’re working with here, people who genuinely believe that if we just told people tomorrow to go to work or starve, the economy would be back below 4% UE by Election Day.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:58:19am

I know that Ronald Reagan granted Australia born Rupert Murdoch United States Citizenship in late 1980’s. Are his children US citizens and do they care what happens here?

But the way we set things up Fox has no more corporate loyalty to the people of the United States than Volvo

They are foreigners here to sell ad space using content that tickles the lizard brain and by the business of America is business mantra this is legal and our way since late 1970’s (btw I say conservatism began July 5, 1976 another story for another day).

They have to have a modicum of quality and variety (don’t forget Fox airs/aired X files, MLB and the Simpsons) and that’s it

No soul, no civic duty, no responsibility, no truth, no ethics, no context required of them. Maximize shareholder value.

Foreign Owned Xenophobia
Foul, Old & X rated
Frenetic Oligarch eXtremeism (sorry about my shameful lack of X vocabulary words 😑)

1970 Ventura County Fair Medallion on Silverplate Tray
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jul 28, 2020 • 7:58:21am

Wait, what?

I know it’s DoomScrolling, but I feel like if I take my eye off things for even a minute, some freaky new thing will just sprint past, like Fast Zombies getting through the wire:

Dream Sex With Demons Causes Covid?

WTF? What’s next? Stephen Miller orders ICE to start slitting the throats of puppies to stem invasion of Lava People?

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:01:58am

re: #204 Belafon

“God will take care of us.”
“But people are getting sick at church.”
“As I said, God will take care of us.”

If you recover, God protected you because he loves you.
If you die, God called you to him because he loves you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:02:10am

re: #235 Targetpractice

I remember wingnuts insisting in the dark days of 2009 that there were jobs everywhere and the only people who weren’t working either “weren’t looking hard enough” or “are too lazy to get a job.”

I’d like to point out here there is a distinction between a job and a “steady job that pays me enough to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:02:16am

re: #236 So Cal Greek Hippie

I know that Ronald Reagan granted Australia born Rupert Murdoch United States Citizenship in late 1980’s. Are his children US citizens and do they care what happens here?

But the way we set things up Fox has no more corporate loyalty to the people of the United States than Volvo

They are foreigners here to sell ad space using content that tickles the lizard brain and by the business of America is business mantra this is legal and our way since late 1970’s (btw I say conservatism began July 5, 1976 another story for another day).

They have to have a modicum of quality and variety (don’t forget Fox airs/aired X files, MLB and the Simpsons) and that’s it

No soul, no civic duty, no responsibility, no truth, no ethics, no context required of them. Maximize shareholder value.

Foreign Owned Xenophobia
Foul, Old & X rated
Frenetic Oligarch eXtremeism (sorry about my shameful lack of X vocabulary words 😑)

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Globally. The Murdoch family is fucking with democracy worldwide.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:03:21am

Oh Christ, it’s worst than I thought(tm)

The new slogan for 2020, I guess:

“Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:07:47am

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d like to point out here there is a distinction between a job and a “steady job that pays me enough to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly.”

Gotta “tighten your belt,” my friend. Can’t get by on minimum wage? Obviously you’ve got too many “luxuries” in your life that you need to get rid of.

Cellphone? Who needs that when you can just use a payphone when you need to make a call.

Internet? If you have time to surf the internet, you could be working a second job!

Cable tv? What’s wrong with using an antenna, it worked for me when I got my first job (back in the 70s…)!

Eating out? Find friends or relatives who will cook you meals, it will help improve your social life!

Kids today just don’t know how good their got it.

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TedStriker  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:08:28am

re: #238 sagehen

If you recover, God protected you because he loves you.
If you die, God called you to him because he loves you.

Duke Forrest in Robert Altman’s M*A*S*H (one of the few main characters of the movie that didn’t make it to the TV show) said it best, just sub ‘Donald Trump’ (or really any conservative Republican, really) for ‘Frank Burns’: “Oh, now damn it, Henry. Frank Burns is a menace! Every time a patient croaks on him, he says “it’s God’s will” or somebody else’s fault.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:09:43am

re: #241 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Oh Christ, it’s worst than I thought(tm)

The new slogan for 2020, I guess:

Sex in dreams with demons and witches? Obviously I’m having the wrong kind of dreams.

//

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:11:34am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:11:36am

re: #192 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:12:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:16:11am

re: #23 Dread Pirate

[Trump] also repeats frequent lie about China paying tariffs (they are taxes on Americans)

I don’t know how many people I have heard who believe that notion, and trying to explain the notion of how trade tariffs works also seems to sail right over their heads…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:17:35am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

A quick fact check for Senator Tom Cotton.

Slavery was NOT a necessary evil.

It was a Crime Against Humanity.

History. Lesson. Over.

Slavery was legal but immoral.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:20:13am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t know how many people I have heard who believe that notion, and trying to explain the notion of how trade tariffs works also seems to sail right over their heads…

According to MAGAts, tariffs don’t raise the price of goods because the country they’re imposed upon has to eat the increased cost, BUT want you to believe that raising the minimum wage will make everything outrageously expensive overnight.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:20:19am

NPR livestream
npr.org

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:20:47am
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nines09  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:20:58am

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:22:11am

re: #252 jaunte

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I just can’t.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:22:16am

re: #233 stpaulbear

F to the T, GOP, and mendacious media that still enables the corrupt and incompetent GOP™.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:22:27am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t know how many people I have heard who believe that notion, and trying to explain the notion of how trade tariffs works also seems to sail right over their heads…

“If the company that McDonald’s buys their beef from raises it’s price by 10%, who pays for that increase? McDonald’s or you?”

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:23:52am

Jim Jordan must have had special lessons in how to make his voice more abrasive.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:23:58am

re: #253 nines09

Click to Reveal

No running near the pool!

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:24:53am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:25:26am

re: #252 jaunte

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It’s their one last attempt and the entire GOP is going to be on board with it.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:25:45am
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:27:09am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:27:26am

Jim Jordan going with the “pound the table” defense I see.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:28:24am

re: #237 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Wait, what?

I know it’s DoomScrolling, but I feel like if I take my eye off things for even a minute, some freaky new thing will just sprint past, like Fast Zombies getting through the wire:

[Embedded content]

Dream Sex With Demons Causes Covid?

WTF? What’s next? Stephen Miller orders ICE to start slitting the throats of puppies to stem invasion of Lava People?

That ‘doctor’ was in the video that Uday (or was it Qusay?) posted on Twitter that got his account disabled because it was shilling hydroxychloroquine.

Trump retweeted parts of the video.

The doctor is a nut job. She was on Twitter earlier this morning, threatening Facebook that their computers were going to start crashing if they didn’t put the video back up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:30:48am

re: #253 nines09

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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:31:48am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

“Mixed” I’ve seen it go very bad.

I just think it’s the wrong image to go for.

“Warriors” are Vikings, Sparta, SS, Imperial Japan.

“Soldiers” are the defensive arm of a civiisation.

You can reasonably say “citizen soldiers”. “Citizen Warriors” is an oxymoron.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:33:30am

re: #252 jaunte

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:34:05am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:35:55am
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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:36:19am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Okay, here’s an apologetic I haven’t read or seen before: Libertarianism deflates atheism.

What does that even mean? “Deflates”? “Lets the air out of”?

What defeats Libertarianism is the understanding that we are social monkeys, Libertarianism is just the political expression of sociopathy.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:36:47am

re: #266 John Hughes

I just think it’s the wrong image to go for.

“Warriors” are Vikings, Sparta, SS, Imperial Japan.

“Soldiers” are the defensive arm of a civiisation.

You can reasonably say “citizen soldiers”. “Citizen Warriors” is an oxymoron.

Don’ tell me, tell the Training and Doctrine Command.
tradoc.army.mil

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:38:49am

re: #257 jaunte

Jim Jordan must have had special lessons in how to make his voice more abrasive.

He learned that from being a molester’s wingman.

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stpaulbear  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:40:08am

re: #238 sagehen

If you recover, God protected you because he loves you.
If you die, God called you to him because he loves you.

If you recover but suffer severe permanent disabilities, God had a plan for you.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:42:22am

Trump was in NC yesterday, and his gait was all over the place. He’s got balance issues and is dragging his foot and swinging it out.

We know Trump loves to project his failures on to his enemies. So when he tries to claim that Biden isn’t healthy, we know the reality is that Trump’s in a bad way, and we can see it with how he walks.

This isn’t just on a ramp. That’s a flat surface and he’s walking with an odd gait. That indicates neurological issues (perhaps why he was given the memory/cognitive ability test in first place).

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:43:03am

re: #273 stpaulbear

If you recover but suffer severe permanent disabilities, God had a plan for you.

Did that plan involve the goat his great-grandfather fucked? Cause deities pull that shit.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:43:14am

re: #273 stpaulbear

If you recover but suffer severe permanent disabilities, God had a plan for you.

Yes that is the mantra my brainwashed family recites.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:43:27am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:45:28am

re: #277 jaunte

Barr says “we do not have two systems of justice.”

So Roger Stone is going to do time after all?

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:46:06am

re: #277 jaunte

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Fatass Barr can lie all he wants but the truth is we DO have two systems of justice.

Republicans are above the law.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:46:15am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

The president* doesn’t see color among his enablers!

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:47:02am

re: #280 jaunte

The president* doesn’t see color among his enablers!

He does see a couple colors—green, gold, silver…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:48:22am
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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:50:21am

Unless the whole point is to stage a show about how Democratic leaders “have let their cities get out of control.”

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 8:53:08am
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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:00:14am
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:03:51am

Trump’s destroying our ability to respond to disasters, prevent them, and undermining public safety with every move. Some are occurring under the radar, by refusing to staff organizations.

This is one such example, which can have devastating consequences.

Think back in recent history to major industrial accidents - and how they are investigated and actions taken to prevent similar events from occurring.

Trump’s preventing the investigation and action steps by not properly staffing the agency.

This endangers all public health and safety.

Just as the businesses backing the GOP want it. They don’t care how many people die so long as the millionaire owners can make more money.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:04:01am

re: #285 jaunte

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The Feds can pull this off because the mayors have permitted the growth of rogue municipal police forces—ones that they cannot rely on.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:06:01am

Money laundering and nepotism benefits. This is how Trumpworld operates - enriching themselves by getting people to buy into his baffling bulkshit.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:14:25am

re: #264 makeitstop

That ‘doctor’ was in the video that Uday (or was it Qusay?) posted on Twitter that got his account disabled because it was shilling hydroxychloroquine.

Trump retweeted parts of the video.

The doctor is a nut job. She was on Twitter earlier this morning, threatening Facebook that their computers were going to start crashing if they didn’t put the video back up.

God is a hacker?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:15:20am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wish I could give that more updings. Well written and to the point!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:17:05am

re: #273 stpaulbear

If you recover but suffer severe permanent disabilities, God had a plan for you.

Yeah, to suffer. Not a god I want anything to do with.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:21:58am

In other words, run up the score.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:27:03am

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you give away an election:

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:29:43am

re: #293 Targetpractice

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you give away an election:

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Hasn’t Hoyer been a problem for Pelosi since she became the Democratic House leader?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:30:49am

re: #293 Targetpractice

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you give away an election:

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Depends on how much they give away and what they get for workers in return.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:31:19am

re: #293 Targetpractice

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you give away an election:

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Steeney the Weeney wimps out again.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:31:23am

re: #294 Belafon

Hasn’t Hoyer been a problem for Pelosi since she became the Democratic House leader?

Hoyer had his eyes on being Speaker, but saw which way the wind was blowing and realized there was no chance after the midterms of his putting together the votes to challenge Pelosi.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:33:58am

For your pleasure….

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:37:15am

re: #297 Targetpractice

Hoyer had his eyes on being Speaker, but saw which way the wind was blowing and realized there was no chance after the midterms of his putting together the votes to challenge Pelosi.

I just remember when Pelosi was rallying the Democrats to stand up for AOC and the others that Hoyer came out and dismissed them.

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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:38:44am

re: #187 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Protesters, stop helping Barr. Because you are.

Fuck that shit.

“Lie back and think of the constitution”.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:38:47am

I wouldn’t waste any time watching or listening these “hearings” because I have no tolerance left when it comes to listening to RepubliKKKlans acting like the assholes every last one of them are

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:38:56am

I’m just gonna say it out loud: Nadler is fucking useless. The man conducts every hearing as if it is the 1980s again and both parties are good friends who say mean things in front of the cameras and then go back to the club for drinks after the work day ends. I have yet to see a hearing he’s conducted as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee that didn’t seem like it was conducted on sufferance.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:43:19am

What’s depressing is know the useless Presstitute Posse will do their usual “Both Sides” shit to kiss Barr’s ass.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:45:15am
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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:46:13am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:51:14am

re: #305 jaunte

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We need more of this.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:51:29am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:53:06am

re: #306 I Would Prefer Not To

We need more of this.

Yep. I’m catching up through some tweets, but it sounds like the Dems have been unprepared for this historic confrontation. I hope I’m wrong.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:53:22am

This hearing feels like something conducted just so House Dems can say “THERE! We questioned him! Now stop nagging us about it!”

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:53:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:54:46am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:56:03am

re: #307 jaunte

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But it’s fair to be executed on suspicion of MAYBE committing a crime? FUCK YOU BARR YOU CRIMINAL FUCK!

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2020 • 9:56:23am

re: #309 Targetpractice

This hearing feels like something conducted just so House Dems can say “THERE! We questioned him! Now stop nagging us about it!”

Given #310 and the fact that the Senate won’t do anything, what we have is Democrats getting Barr to make statements that can be used against Trump.

I would like to see someone ask if Barr is the actual president since he seems to be making all of the decisions.

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aatharuv  Jul 28, 2020 • 10:04:27am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

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Germany could always say they won’t accept our ambassador, if they felt he were odious enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2020 • 10:04:59am

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

If that is the so-called “October Surprise”, it’s not going to save Trump’s behind.

“unmasking” sounds so terribly underhanded and cloak-and-daggery…

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John Hughes  Jul 28, 2020 • 10:12:37am

re: #271 Decatur Deb

Don’ tell me, tell the Training and Doctrine Command.
tradoc.army.mil

Eww. Icky.

Also, self contradictory. One of the things I don’t like about the whole “warrior” bullshit is that “warriors” just do one thing.

“Warriors” don’t build field hospitals for the civilian population during a pandemic. You can’t shoot or stab a virus.

Anyway, whatever. I guess you know how I feel.

(And I think history vindicates me — soldiers kick warriors ass, even if it’s only in the end).

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TedStriker  Jul 28, 2020 • 11:38:32am

re: #305 jaunte

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Rep. Steve Cohen, one of the two bright (Dem) spots in our otherwise beet-red Congressional delegation here in TN (the other is Rep. Jim Cooper, my Representative), beating Barr like he owes him money.

*chef’s kiss*

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2020 • 12:17:56pm

re: #307 jaunte

(cough) Bernie Madoff (cough)


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