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174 comments
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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2022 • 10:59:49am

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:00:32am

No, you liar.

You DID “discuss” Trump’s loss with your corrupt husband.

Ginni Thomas suggests she might have discussed Trump’s election loss with her husband

rawstory.com

Yeah you discussed it with him and both of you plotted to keep Trump in power and you got away with it because both of you are above the law.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:11:01am

These “people” are so fucking dumb that it almost hurts:

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Dangerman  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:14:42am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

These “people” are so fucking dumb that it almost hurts:

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They vote
They procreate
They serve your food
Fly your plane, train, bus, uber
Fill your prescription
They’re on the road next to you
Etc

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Dr. Matt  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:15:22am

re: #2 Joe Bacon

More idiocy from GQP magat Nazis:

In an interview with the House committee investigating the attack on the US Capitol, a transcript of which was released on Friday, Ms Thomas said that she “wasn’t very deep” in her knowledge of specific voter fraud allegations at the time of her lobbying effort, but instead “was basing what I believed off of people I trusted and news that I trusted.”

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Dangerman  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:17:38am

“part of Trump’s appeal hinged on perceptions about his private sector acumen, earned through decades operating in New York’s rough-and-tumble world of real estate. Friday’s disclosures call into question his carefully-cultivated image as a savvy business magnate.”

They elected a caricature of a reality show “star”

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:19:47am

re: #1 jeffreyw

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They shoulda got it in writing.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:20:41am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:21:07am

re: #3 Dr. Matt

Joined November 2022 - letters with 8 digits. Obviously a legit, concerned citizen. Also lacks grammer acumen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:26:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:26:54am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:27:43am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:28:58am

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

Greta, stop! He’s already dead!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:30:10am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:33:20am

Has SMOTI confirmed that Obama bumper stickers were found on the car?

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:35:31am

re: #15 Dr. Matt

Has SMOTI confirmed that Obama bumper stickers were found on the car?

There’s a forensics graduate student at the nearby university in Washington. I wonder if he was trying out his craft (I might be influenced by the fact that Murder by Numbers was on TV just a little bit ago.)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:36:47am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:38:32am

re: #16 Belafon

There’s a forensics graduate student at the nearby university in Washington. I wonder if he was trying out his craft (I might be influenced by the fact that Murder by Numbers was on TV just a little bit ago.)

I was thinking something along the lines of Leopold and Loeb.

Maybe he thought he was super smart, and could get away with the “perfect murder”.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:38:35am

Secretary Pete is ON IT.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:39:16am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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The MAGA crowd is going to boycott Jerry’s Pizza now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:41:28am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:42:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:51:40am
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:57:57am

re: #8 Belafon

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She went on to move the goalposts. She’s nuts.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 11:58:34am

Melania Trump was worried that Rudy Giuliani would walk in unannounced while she was only in her robe: former staffer

rawstory.com

What she was really afraid of is letting Rudy see her wearing the leather dominatrix outfit with the whips…

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:00:30pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:03:28pm

re: #26 gocart mozart

So Mikey confesses that he’s a student at Hustler’s University!

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:04:19pm

Woke Deep State CIA NATO Regime Change Lobby?

Dude, WTF

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:05:57pm

According to a probable cause affidavit, Moscow PD was working with the Pennsylvania State Police assisting in the homicide investigation. Police arrested Kohberger based on an active warrant for being a ‘fugitive from justice’ according to a statement by PA State Police.

Kohberger is from Albrightsville, Pennsylvania. Graduation records show he attended Northampton Community College in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and graduated in 2018.

Kohberger graduated from DeSales University in 2020 and completed graduate studies there in June 2022, according to a statement released by the school.

Washington State University’s website shows he is a graduate teaching assistant studying criminology and criminal justice. WSU is just a 15 minute drive from Moscow, where the murders of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen and Kaylee GonCalves took place Nov. 13.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:07:17pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Woke Deep State CIA NATO Regime Change Lobby?

Dude, WTF

parody account

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:08:28pm

New Kraken video out. I haven’t seen anything this intense before. Putting it in a private tag to prevent accidental viewing. The body cam infantry combat scenes are fucking scary.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:09:06pm
A Romanian court has said Andrew Tate will remain in prison for another 30 days.

He was arrested together with his brother Tristan on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group,

independent.co.uk

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:10:44pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #28 BigPapa

Woke Deep State CIA NATO Regime Change Lobby?

Dude, WTF

parody account

OK, “Glem” IS a bit over-the top sometimes, but given the source material he works with, it is often hard to tell…..

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:11:03pm

— Travis Akers (@travisakers) October 22, 2022

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:13:52pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon

was that Maxine in a police uniform?////////

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:15:04pm

re: #13 Dopamine Fish

Greta, stop! He’s already dead!

Nah. In this case, I approve of kicking the dead horse.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:18:03pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

How do you explain comedy to an idiot?

Brilliance.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:20:10pm

re: #24 Crush White Nationalism

She went on to move the goalposts. She’s nuts.

Going with Russian distinfo bot. And an idiot, too. To be repetitiously redundant.

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:20:36pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

parody account

Fuck!!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:21:25pm

re: #26 gocart mozart

Fake account. But still, something he may have said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:23:08pm
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Teukka  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:25:33pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yikes. Simply Yikes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:26:22pm

re: #42 Teukka

Yikes. Simply Yikes.

Lake Michigan waves during winter storms can be wicked

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:27:22pm

NY Resolution: not get bonked by a parody account. That’s my last one. Forever. Promise.

Seriously.

I’m not joking.

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Orange Impostor  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:27:32pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From 2018? While he was a sitting President?

Isn’t income from outside sources (especially from foreign entities) in violation of all kinds of laws for a President (they have to place all entities in trust for the entirety of their term)?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:29:48pm

re: #26 gocart mozart

Is that real? Or a parody? Has Glenn completely lost his mind? Tate is on record boasting about moving to Romania so he can be free to r*pe women.

Just seeing that it is indeed a parody. 😂

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:29:57pm
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Jay C  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:32:00pm

re: #45 Orange Impostor

From 2018? While he was a sitting President?

Isn’t income from outside sources (especially from foreign entities) in violation of all kinds of laws for a President (they have to place all entities in trust for the entirety of their term)?

Even if was was illegal, do you really think Donald Fucking Trump would care, anywa?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:40:57pm

re: #39 BigPapa

Getting harder and harder to tell things apart these days, isn’t it?

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:43:27pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lake Michigan waves during winter storms can be wicked

Having acquaintances in MI, I’ve heard of weather sometimes getting a wee bit freaky…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:47:57pm

I’ve seen iced over cars, lamp posts and benches in Niagara Falls before on several occasions (if the temps get cold enough, the mist from the falls essentially becomes floating ice crystals that coat whatever they land on).

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:52:30pm

re: #26 gocart mozart

Woke Deep State CIA NATO Regime Change Lobby

Isn’t that the 70’s yacht rock cover band that has been showing up in my YouTube feed?

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:53:07pm

re: #31 darthstar

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:55:35pm

5/6 flail

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 30, 2022 • 12:57:54pm

Tate’s stupid fans were a bit off about him being immediately released.

Sexist troll Andrew Tate will be welcoming the New Year in a Romanian “detention center” after prosecutors were granted a 30-day hold following his arrest on Thursday.

Andrew Tate to Spend New Year in Jail After Court Approves 30-Day Detention
(BBC via The Daily Beast)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:01:08pm

re: #38 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Going with Russian distinfo bot. And an idiot, too. To be repetitiously redundant.

Has anyone else noticed the quality of Russian trolls declining? Did they perhaps draft the smartest ones for intel ops in Ukraine (the test being whether they could tie their shoes without help)?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:01:49pm

Isn’t what Tate does a kind of…grooming?

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:03:46pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Has anyone else noticed the quality of Russian trolls declining? Did they perhaps draft the smartest ones for intel ops in Ukraine (the test being whether they could tie their shoes without help)?

Or the smarter ones successfully left the country. Of course, I suspect that Western intelligence is well aware of exactly who is working on the “Troll Farms”.

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:04:01pm

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Isn’t what Tate does a kind of…grooming?

It is. Not kinda. IS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:06:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:08:21pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:09:06pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who knew the President doesn’t fly Southwest?

(None of my flights were cancelled the past few days; one was an hour an a half delayed so I missed a connection and had to spend a night in an airport that is specifically designed so that you can’t lie down comfortably.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:09:49pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brought to you by the assholes who had a GOLD STATUE OF TRUMP at one of their conferences a few years back.

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JC1  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:14:07pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Woke Deep State CIA NATO Regime Change Lobby?

Dude, WTF

Parody account.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:16:12pm

re: #50 Teukka

Having acquaintances in MI, I’ve heard of weather sometimes getting a wee bit freaky…

The legend goes on
From the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitchee Gumee
Superior it’s said
Never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:21:14pm

Now that I gave y’all an earworm I’m gonna log off for Shabbat…

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:22:45pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle enters day 3 of Covid isolation, coughing and spluttering.

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I like green, as long as it’s not the colour I’m horking up.

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SibData: 3,4,4,4,5

The birbie was a self-confessed WAG.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:26:58pm

It got me thinking about how different cultural contexts assign different meanings to architecture.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:27:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:28:10pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:28:55pm

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:29:25pm

re: #66 The Pie Overlord!

Now that I gave y’all an earworm I’m gonna log off for Shabbat…

I used to sing that as a lullaby to my son. ;)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:29:56pm

re: #45 Orange Impostor

From 2018? While he was a sitting President?

Isn’t income from outside sources (especially from foreign entities) in violation of all kinds of laws for a President (they have to place all entities in trust for the entirety of their term)?

It’s a thing for all federal employees. Ask Joe B. we must take ethics training every year. That shit is highly illegal. Unless you have the GQP legislature on your side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:30:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:31:30pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Warnocks church. Upset MAGATs?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:32:03pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Octopus — all your crabs belong to *me*.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:34:08pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

One thing I’m watching for is how the IRS’s claim that Trump’s tax return was too complicated for them to review, and the assignment of totally inadequate resources is going to be treated by DOJ and the Senate. (The House is a lost cause.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:34:59pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Has anyone else noticed the quality of Russian trolls declining? Did they perhaps draft the smartest ones for intel ops in Ukraine (the test being whether they could tie their shoes without help)?

Damn. Kicking the defenseless, I approve in this case.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:36:31pm

re: #73 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s a thing for all federal employees. Ask Joe B. we must take ethics trusting every year. That shit is highly illegal. Unless you have the GQP legislature on your side.

Yes we are required to take ethics training PLUS an additional refresher PLUS additional Hatch Act reminder training each year.

How strict is it? Don’t allow coworkers to sell Girl Scout cookies in your office. Oh No lottery or gambling pools at all. Oh and don’t even think about giving a coworker a gift over $10 in value.

One time a former assistant manager gave me a $25 Starbuck’s card…I had to return it to them BUT the resident Trump Troll sent an e-mail to the White House alleging I took a bribe. I had to be deposed and the assistant manager showed the card addressed to Joe was back in her possession along with the note that I had to decline it under ethics rules.

We had our own Diamond and Silk in our office sending e-mails to the White House ratting on people who were not loyal to Trump. But they both went too far and found themselves out of a job…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:39:59pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Warnocks church. Upset MAGATs?

stupid people.
the graffiti makes no sense since Warnock is a supporter of choice.

warnock.senate.gov

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:40:06pm

re: #62 Barefoot Grin

Who knew the President doesn’t fly Southwest?

Ouch
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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:43:43pm

Not the pizza box? :(

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:45:42pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon

Damn — awesome addendum. Us peons are held to a much higher standard than thoee protected by the GQP/congress critters.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:49:20pm

Two good news items here.

I WON THE LOTTO (four free lotto tickets)

The plumber is here and hopefully we’ll have water shortly.

Dangerous Devotion: Congressional hearing examines threat of white Christian nationalism (Southern Poverty Law Center, December 28, 2022)

The House Oversight Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties held its seventh and last hearing on the threat of white nationalism this month.

One principal focus was white Christian nationalism, which has driven anti-democracy extremism in recent years. The hearing was welcome as the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project has monitored this threat with growing concern.

As Amanda Tyler, co-organizer of Christians Against Christian Nationalism, testified during the hearing: “Christian nationalism seeks to manipulate religious devotion into giving unquestioning moral support for its political goals.”

Tyler is also executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

White Christian nationalism combines American exceptionalism - the belief that the U.S. occupies a special and privileged place in the world - with the belief that God is the source of all American liberties and prosperity. This includes the belief that Americans are more valued in God’s eyes than people from other nations.

What’s more, large segments of the U.S. population are seen as un-American. Some leaders of this movement uphold the racist idea that white Americans are the image of sacred Americanness. Civil rights advocates who struggle for a pluralist, multiracial, equitable democracy are often smeared as Marxists, communists and even pedophiles by this movement.

(more)

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:55:13pm

re: #31 darthstar

War never changes.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:56:11pm

Between Christmas and New Year, yep.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 30, 2022 • 1:56:39pm

Seeing more tweets attacking electric cars because Elmo is letting these people use Twitter to lie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:02:46pm
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:05:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:06:37pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:07:42pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tracey casts his lot with The DICKTATER

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:09:59pm

re: #89 Belafon

Heh, reminded me of this quote I heard back when it was made.

“I don’t know what the language of the year 2000 will look like, but I know it will be called Fortran.”

— Charles Anthony Richard Hoare, winner of the 1980 Turing Award, in 1982.

Turned out to be a “nope”.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:12:25pm

re: #92 ckkatz

Heh, reminded me of this quote I heard back when it was made.

“I don’t know what the language of the year 2000 will look like, but I know it will be called Fortran.”

— Charles Anthony Richard Hoare, winner of the 1980 Turing Award, in 1982.

Turned out to be a “nope”.

Memories of Computer Science at Pitt with FORTRAN & WATFOR & WATFIV…1200 punch cards in a program to play Monopoly…

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:12:54pm

re: #92 ckkatz

Heh, reminded me of this quote I heard back when it was made.

“I don’t know what the language of the year 2000 will look like, but I know it will be called Fortran.”

— Charles Anthony Richard Hoare, winner of the 1980 Turing Award, in 1982.

Turned out to be a “nope”.

2000, I think, was riding the high of Java Enterprise Edition, was it not? Shortly before .NET burst on to the scene?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:14:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:15:30pm

Bad news—that was quick.

The water lines for the washing machine are broken up inside the floor. According to the plumber, that would necessitate routing around them with new plumbing, or cutting through the kitchen floor to get to them. For now, he’s installing shut-off valves in the washing machine lines so he can restore our water.

The bill is running toward $2,000 now.

If it comes down to it, I can drag out the wringer washer again, but that would be a pain to get from my shed through my snow-covered yard.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:17:53pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon

Memories of Computer Science at Pitt with FORTRAN & WATFOR & WATFIV…1200 punch cards in a program to play Monopoly…

I remember those days.

And the time I came across a a guy sitting on the stairs of the Cathedral of Learning just looking stunned. At the formerly huge deck of punch cards that he had just dropped on the stairs. Where they were all scattered randomly.

I had some friends who would raid the punch/chad collections baskets from the card punch machines. They would take them to Pitt football games and throw clouds of the ‘punchies’ whenever somebody lifted the lid on their drink…

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:18:10pm

re: #89 Belafon

A very good internet friend of mine is an optical engineer for the government. He can make FORTRAN do things I wouldn’t even imagine trying to do with C or LISP.

Now if he’d used COBOL as his example…

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:20:21pm

re: #94 Dopamine Fish

2000, I think, was riding the high of Java Enterprise Edition, was it not? Shortly before .NET burst on to the scene?

That’s exactly what I was doing around then. Learning and programming in new-fangled Java. Long before Oracle got their claws on it.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:21:38pm

re: #99 ckkatz

That’s exactly what I was doing around then. Learning and programming in new-fangled Java. Long before Oracle got their claws on it.

By the time I graduated with my degree in 2006, .NET 2.0 had come out, and the up-and-comers were building their stuff with the new-fangled C#. And I’ve been doing that pretty much ever since, with some side experience in other languages.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:23:42pm

re: #98 William Lewis

A very good internet friend of mine is an optical engineer for the government. He can make FORTRAN do things I wouldn’t even imagine trying to do with C or LISP.

Now if he’d used COBOL as his example…

I worked for a credit union in the late 1990’s. They were still using Cobol and paying Cobol programmers. And IBM was still supporting it and the old ‘iron’ it ran on. The philosophy was that it was tested and proven, and as long as the business processes remained the same, staying the course was the sane choice.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:25:09pm

re: #101 ckkatz

I worked for a credit union in the late 1990’s. They were still using Cobol and paying Cobol programmers. And IBM was still supporting it and the old ‘iron’ it ran on. The philosophy was that it was tested and proven, and as long as the business processes remained the same, staying the course was the sane choice.

I worked on a program whose ultimate source of truth was a COBOL mainframe application, in 2010. They had evolved the process so that very little was actually entered into the mainframe itself; most of what was done on the mainframe was exports to a SQL Server database, where other, more modern applications picked up the data and ran with it. But they still kept the lights on in the basement for it.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:25:20pm

re: #97 ckkatz

One time I played Star Trek in the Pitt Computer Lab. 4th Move I accidentally got the Enterprise pulled into a black hole and killed everyone…

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:26:37pm

re: #94 Dopamine Fish

2000, I think, was riding the high of Java Enterprise Edition, was it not? Shortly before .NET burst on to the scene?

Java = the fastest way to make a good computer dog slow.

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Nojay UK  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:27:52pm

re: #92 ckkatz

Fortran still has a home in, of all things, high-performance supercomputer clusters. There’s a shitload of well-tested scientific software written decades ago in Fortran IV and subsequent variants that is still being run on the world’s fastest hardware.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:29:11pm

re: #105 Nojay UK

Fortran still has a home in, of all things, high-performance supercomputer clusters. There’s a shitload of well-tested scientific software written decades ago in Fortran IV and subsequent variants that is still being run on the world’s fastest hardware.

Yup. I’ve never asked my friend just what he’s designing lenses for because I’ve never had that level of clearance….

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:30:19pm

re: #103 Joe Bacon

One Midwinter Break at Pitt, a friend gave me the instructor password to a CompSci class. The class was over, grades had been turned in and the computer account was to be shut down in a week.

So I spent the week playing Zork on the system. Iirc, there was no computer time left in the account when it was shutdown.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:30:49pm

re: #104 William Lewis

Java = the fastest way to make a good computer dog slow.

An uncle of mine worked for Sun Microsystems back when Java was really big.

He…had many stories.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:32:37pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

An uncle of mine worked for Sun Microsystems back when Java was really big.

He…had many stories.

Sun did some really great software. Sadly, a hardware company spending major resources developing free software might not have been the best use of business resources.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:33:01pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Memories of Grandma’s Maytag wringer washer that worked flawlessly until it finally died in 1984. Maytag stopped making replacement parts for that model she bought in…1935!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:33:03pm
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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:33:06pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

An uncle of mine worked for Sun Microsystems back when Java was really big.

He…had many stories.

I can imagine.

I honestly believe that Java was a mistake that ultimately killed SUN. As a UNIX-head I will always miss them, especially in the days of a SPARCstation running SUNOS 4.

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EstebanTornado1963  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:33:50pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

About Scott McNealy? I played golf with him a while back, cursed like a sailor, pretty funny dude, but trumphumper.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:34:34pm

re: #89 Belafon

She is not wrong. When I was at university pretending that I had the correct OCD to be an engineer, Fortran 77 was my nemesis. It is not why I changed my major (that was me and physics) but it certainly didn’t help.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:35:35pm

re: #112 William Lewis

I can imagine.

I honestly believe that Java was a mistake that ultimately killed SUN. As a UNIX-head I will always miss them, especially in the days of a SPARCstation running SUNOS 4.

Java was a great idea that lacked monetization. Developing not just a programming language, but a runtime specification that anyone could build for their platform - so that programs could be truly platform-independent - was brilliant for its time, revolutionary, even. The problem is: At that point, what incentive do you have to run on Sun hardware? Or with Sun’s reference implementation? Far cheaper to buy a bank of Xeons, run an open-source JRE, and not have to pay any of Sun’s licensing fees or support.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:35:37pm

re: #113 EstebanTornado1963

About Scott McNealy? I played golf with him a while back, cursed like a sailor, pretty funny dude, but trumphumper.

I have always wanted to meet Ken Thompson & Bill Joy myself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:35:37pm

re: #113 EstebanTornado1963

No, the guy I am talking about passed away in 2011.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:37:48pm

re: #115 Dopamine Fish

The catch was you needed that bank of Xenons to match one Sparcstation and both would be dragged down to the speed of a very average Pentium PC by the runtime.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:39:46pm

re: #118 William Lewis

The catch was you needed that bank of Xenons to match one Sparcstation and both would be dragged down to the speed of a very average Pentium PC by the runtime.

Yeah, Java is, and always has been, a hog. I did a benchmark comparison of a Java Web app and several other languages for some very corporate-minded managers some years back. Java lost out in pretty much every metric that counted, and by far the worst in resource usage. Even in my current occupation, we have one group of Java apps that have to be accorded extra headroom on the virtual servers, lest they become unstable and start repeatedly crashing and restarting.

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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:40:39pm

re: #112 William Lewis

IBM back in the 90’s went balls to the walls with Linux and Java. It helped that they added new instructions that were Unix friendly and they were SPEC-1170 compliant. Moving to CMOS and the coupling facility also helped.

Go look at the z/Architecture Principles of Operation - bloody thing is encroaching close to 2,000 pages, with most of the latest opcodes targeting Java workloads.

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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:43:29pm

re: #116 William Lewis

I met RADM Grace Hopper at ACM 1979 In Detroit - the college kids who were comp-sci majors worked the show as go-fers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:43:33pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:51:32pm
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sagehen  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:52:43pm

re: #103 Joe Bacon

One time I played Star Trek in the Pitt Computer Lab. 4th Move I accidentally got the Enterprise pulled into a black hole and killed everyone…

“Accidentally”?!?

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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:53:36pm

re: #115 Dopamine Fish

IBM ported their J9 Java runtime to just about every platform that wasn’t nailed down - I had a copy that was for Windows Mobile 2003…

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2022 • 2:55:46pm

Talk about fast adoption!

Last week there were reports of two Russian suicide drones getting caught in camouflage netting that covered their target.

Today there are reports of special netting being used to try and reduce drone attacks -

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:02:40pm

re: #126 ckkatz

I remember wondering if those damn nets were actually good for hiding in a world of thermal sights. OTOH, we didn’t have kamikaze drones in 1984!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:03:00pm

re: #103 Joe Bacon

One time I played Star Trek in the Pitt Computer Lab. 4th Move I accidentally got the Enterprise pulled into a black hole and killed everyone…

You didn’t kill them. You advanced them to the next stage where their constituent molecules and atoms and particles will be redistributed and reconstituted across multiple cosmic realms.

At least, that’s how I imagine a Zen Buddhist samurai must have thought about slaughtering opponents.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:09:23pm

re: #128 Barefoot Grin

You didn’t kill them. You advanced them to the next stage where their constituent molecules and atoms and particles will be redistributed and reconstituted across multiple cosmic realms.

And if some of the Enterprise crew members atoms found their way into this I couldn’t forgive myself…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:09:50pm

In years past a driver on I-74 between Covington, IN and Champaign, IL would see multiple “guns save lives” signs. Most of those have faded. They were small-organization signs in farmers’ fields and not prominent billboards. On my trip back I saw prominent billboards with “There is Proof God Exists,” “What About the 400 Riots in the Summer of 2020?” and “Don’t Trust the Main Stream Media.”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:11:12pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon

And if some of the Enterprise crew members atoms found their way into this I couldn’t forgive myself…

[Embedded content]

They will end up in worlds only Mark Zuckerberg will be able to reveal to us in the metaverse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:12:07pm
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mmmirele  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:15:25pm

re: #86 ckkatz

Between Christmas and New Year, yep.

[Embedded content]

Some of us actually have to work. And…some of us are on call throughout the holiday weekend. I’m actually wearing work clothes, instead of the flannel PJs I love.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:16:32pm

re: #133 mmmirele

Some of us actually have to work. And…some of us are on call throughout the holiday weekend.

Yes. And Mercury went retrograde yesterday which only makes more crap happen.

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:21:52pm

re: #134 Joe Bacon

Yes. And Mercury went retrograde yesterday which only makes more crap happen.

I hope it doesn’t go redonkulus. That would be sub-optimal.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:22:50pm

re: #135 BigPapa

I hope it doesn’t go redonkulus. That would be sub-optimal.

Just as long as it doesn’t go plaid. NEVER GO PLAID.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:24:17pm

Yay, we have water! Not everywhere in the house, but we can wash dishes, cook, and run our r/o unit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:24:29pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:25:24pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, how many times must Eric son of Eric prove that he is worthless choad?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:25:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:28:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:28:41pm

The Vatican says Benedict XVI is lucid and stable, but his condition is ‘serious’ (NPR, December 29, 2022)

VATICAN CITY — Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI is lucid, conscious and stable but his condition remains serious, the Vatican said Thursday, a day after it revealed that the 95-year-old’s health had deteriorated recently.

A statement from Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni said Pope Francis asked for continued prayers “to accompany him in these difficult hours.”

On Wednesday Francis revealed that Benedict was “very ill” and went to see Benedict at his home in the Vatican Gardens where he has lived since retiring in 2013, sparking fears that he was near death.

The Vatican later said Benedict’s health had deteriorated in recent hours but that the situation was under control as doctors monitored him.

(more)

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mmmirele  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:28:52pm

Actually entertaining myself watching a particular monitor

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:31:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:32:13pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

was that Maxine in a police uniform?////////

Mr. Tracey’s fanbois are all bellyaching about police brutality.

In the meantime, Tracey is busy doing nothing but blocking people as scores are resending that tweet to him. Keeps him off the propaganda circuit tonight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:33:20pm

re: #115 Dopamine Fish

Platform independence had been an idea long proposed, but it always suffered from the problem of being inefficient during runtime.

Postscript is a programming language that eventually found its way onto most platforms, which is why PDF files can be printed or displayed on about anything.

An example is when Apple went with the NeXT platform software for its new line of Macs. Postscript and PDFs became standard.

But even to this day, using Mac Preview software, viewing a PDF file takes a lot more processor than viewing a simple text or image file.

Yet because PDFs are platform independent, we all use it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 3:51:34pm

Hemant Mehta at Only Sky

Hate-preacher falsely claims Andrew Tate was arrested for denying climate change

Keep driving people away from Christianity, hate preachers. Fortunately, the dark side has cookies.

Christian hate-preacher Greg Locke proved yet again that he cares more about trashing liberals than acknowledging truth in a massive self-own yesterday defending Twitter’s latest “main character” Andrew Tate, a former professional kickboxer best known for spreading misogyny and alpha male arrogance online.

On Tuesday, Tate tagged climate activist Greta Thunberg in a tweet explaining how he had 33 cars with “enormous emissions.” He asked for her email address so he could send her a full list of them, presumably to show just how badly he was hurting the environment.

(more)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:01:17pm

re: #100 Dopamine Fish

By the time I graduated with my degree in 2006, .NET 2.0 had come out, and the up-and-comers were building their stuff with the new-fangled C#. And I’ve been doing that pretty much ever since, with some side experience in other languages.

I told someone at work in 2000 I was waiting for Visual COBOL to appear and revolutionize financials programming. (I was still supporting some stuff that had COBOL modules in it at the time.)

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:02:06pm

re: #148 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I told someone at work in 2000 I was waiting for Visual COBOL to appear and revolutionize financials programming. (I was still supporting some stuff that had COBOL modules in it at the time.)

Visual… COBOL. The very thought sends a shiver down my spine.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:02:56pm

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hemant Mehta at Only Sky

Hate-preacher falsely claims Andrew Tate was arrested for denying climate change

Keep driving people away from Christianity, hate preachers. Fortunately, the dark side has cookies.

(more)

And we now know that Tate is being held for more than 24-hours. More proof that many preachers are shit people.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:04:40pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:06:21pm

re: #119 Dopamine Fish

Yeah, Java is, and always has been, a hog. I did a benchmark comparison of a Java Web app and several other languages for some very corporate-minded managers some years back. Java lost out in pretty much every metric that counted, and by far the worst in resource usage. Even in my current occupation, we have one group of Java apps that have to be accorded extra headroom on the virtual servers, lest they become unstable and start repeatedly crashing and restarting.

Where I worked the thing we hated the most about Java-based stuff was that it ran full-bore… or crashed horribly and suddenly. There was no soft landing mode, or something that gave you any time to adjust. So the solution all too often was simply to allocate much more resources to it than it usually needed simply to hope there was enough extra there to handle things if it suddenly demanded more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:06:58pm
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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:08:58pm

re: #133 mmmirele

I’m oncall thru Saturday, then go back oncall Wednesday.

Enjoying ServiceNow yet?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:10:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:10:36pm
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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:10:58pm

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Erick son of Eric is a true blockhead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:11:20pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

They all seem to have this burning, insatiable need to fly their asshole flags.

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Dangerman  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:11:57pm

re: #98 William Lewis

A very good internet friend of mine is an optical engineer for the government. He can make FORTRAN do things I wouldn’t even imagine trying to do with C or LISP.

Now if he’d used COBOL as his example…

Basic in highschool with paper tape and 300 baud telephone coupler.

Next year in college first language with punch cards: algol-w

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:16:04pm

re: #159 Dangerman

Basic in highschool with paper tape and 300 baud telephone coupler.

Next year in college first language with punch cards: algol-w

In middle school, I had access to Apple IIgs computers that I learned to boot into an Apple BASIC prompt, and wrote crude programs on them. I should’ve known that far back that programming would become my chosen profession.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:17:16pm

re: #149 Dopamine Fish

Visual… COBOL. The very thought sends a shiver down my spine.

< whistles innocently >

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Dangerman  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:18:27pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]
Many Democrats will eventually come to regret the precedent it sets.

Why?
How?

You can’t just request and release anyone’s return.

There needs to be a legislative purpose in requesting the returns

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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:19:59pm

re: #149 Dopamine Fish

Micro Focus still sells Visual COBOL - makes horrendous fees on their runtimes versus Fujitsu’s competing product, which doesn’t charge for their runtime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:20:06pm
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:20:07pm

re: #161 William Lewis

< whistles innocently >

GET. OUT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:21:22pm

what could go wrong?

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:21:23pm

re: #160 Dopamine Fish

In middle school, I had access to Apple IIgs computers that I learned to boot into an Apple BASIC prompt, and wrote crude programs on them. I should’ve known that far back that programming would become my chosen profession.

I’ve been thinking about getting a IIGS as a fool around computer, perhaps with a CP/M card in it for giggles.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:22:35pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Um, Eric? What’s the thing people like you always say?

Hmmm. Oh yeah.

If you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Has that attitude suddenly changed?

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:22:38pm

re: #120 Captain Magic

IBM back in the 90’s went balls to the walls with Linux and Java. It helped that they added new instructions that were Unix friendly and they were SPEC-1170 compliant. Moving to CMOS and the coupling facility also helped.

Go look at the z/Architecture Principles of Operation - bloody thing is encroaching close to 2,000 pages, with most of the latest opcodes targeting Java workloads.

Also their Websphere and Message Broker was heavy Java and ESQL at the beginning. It has expanded by including C# nodes and such, but at the beginning it was Java nodes or you had to call to a web service written in another language.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:23:40pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon

Yes we are required to take ethics training PLUS an additional refresher PLUS additional Hatch Act reminder training each year.

How strict is it? Don’t allow coworkers to sell Girl Scout cookies in your office. Oh No lottery or gambling pools at all. Oh and don’t even think about giving a coworker a gift over $10 in value.

One time a former assistant manager gave me a $25 Starbuck’s card…I had to return it to them BUT the resident Trump Troll sent an e-mail to the White House alleging I took a bribe. I had to be deposed and the assistant manager showed the card addressed to Joe was back in her possession along with the note that I had to decline it under ethics rules.

We had our own Diamond and Silk in our office sending e-mails to the White House ratting on people who were not loyal to Trump. But they both went too far and found themselves out of a job…

Same when I was in the Navy. You can take gifts in the normal course of events (friends, relatives, for things like birthdays or such), but ethics rules say nothing at all in the course of your duties.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:23:48pm

re: #167 William Lewis

I’ve been thinking about getting a IIGS as a fool around computer, perhaps with a CP/M card in it for giggles.

When I was in college, I took my tower PC and booted all manner of archaic operating systems on it. I had Linux, BSD, Windows 98, MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 all in a happy little multi-boot configuration. I don’t even know why I did it to myself.

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Captain Magic  Dec 30, 2022 • 4:31:31pm

re: #159 Dangerman

ALGOLW was the fourth language I learned, the second in college at University of Michigan-Dearborn. In high school I learned BASIC and COBOL on a Honeywell model 58, which was built in France originally by General Electric-Bull. The control cards were in French (*AFFECT DAFILE to create a file, for example.)

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austin_blue  Dec 30, 2022 • 7:14:33pm

re: #107 ckkatz

One Midwinter Break at Pitt, a friend gave me the instructor password to a CompSci class. The class was over, grades had been turned in and the computer account was to be shut down in a week.

So I spent the week playing Zork on the system. Iirc, there was no computer time left in the account when it was shutdown.

You are in a maze twisty little passages…

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TedStriker  Dec 31, 2022 • 8:19:17am

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

And was the President in Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension…


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