Fuzzy Green Logic
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(Taken with a Canon Powershot G10 in macro mode, sharpness adjusted (+26) in iPhoto ‘09.)
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Dustyvet Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:24:27pm |
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Sifty Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:25:23pm |
That is the first thing that has made sense all day.
Thanks.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:25:50pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:26:22pm |
That’s so realistic that allergy sufferers should be sneezing.
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:26:32pm |
Oh - the plant! I thought this thread was about the new stimulus package/congress petty cash hike.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:26:38pm |
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vagabond trader Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:27:15pm |
Hmmm, that looks like endangered flora to me.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:27:32pm |
14.7 for $404.00 — that’s a lot of megapixels cheap.
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quickjustice Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:28:25pm |
With a balsamic vinagrette, a nice topping to an arugala salad!
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:29:26pm |
i love green.
i try to not let moonbats taint it for me.
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Ojoe Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:29:52pm |
That might not be a nettle but it is the fuzz on nettles that is the stingy part.
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quickjustice Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:30:12pm |
A twelve-leafed clover? Happy St. Patrick’s Day to you too!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:30:18pm |
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:30:32pm |
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Sharmuta Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:30:34pm |
re: #18 nyc redneck
The lefties stole it, we must take it back.
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Sharmuta Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:31:38pm |
Stole it, they did, precious! Mean, tricksy, false leftists stole it!
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Racer X Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:31:40pm |
re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW, Where did George get money to get the “chronic”?
Conservatives sent him cash to embarrass Obama because of his “my brothers keeper” comment.
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:32:07pm |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:33:47pm |
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opnion Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:35:05pm |
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offendi Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:35:29pm |
Makes me wonder if “soylent green” is one of Obama’s earth friendly policies.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:35:32pm |
re: #15 Thanos
14.7 for $404.00 — that’s a lot of megapixels cheap.
The G10 is a really good camera — has more semi-pro type features than a simple point and shoot camera.
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:36:01pm |
At least someone can see green. We are knee-deep or more in climate change.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:36:10pm |
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….
[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:37:55pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:39:11pm |
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Ojoe Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:39:39pm |
What plant is that? The leaves are not shaped like lamb’s ear leaves.
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Sharmuta Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:39:48pm |
re: #39 MandyManners
Naughty girl! But then- that’s part of your charm. ;)
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:39:52pm |
re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW, Where did George get money to get the “chronic”?
Maybe he was just holding it for one of the others.
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quickredfox Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:40:14pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
Could one just slam the door on them? Or will that be an arrestable offense?
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:40:25pm |
Fuzzy Green Logic: is that the kind of logic the Democrats employed when they crafted the stimulus bill?
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Sharmuta Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:40:52pm |
re: #44 Jetpilot1101
Fuzzy Green Logic: is that the kind of logic the Democrats employed when they crafted the stimulus bill?
No- they used red logic.
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wolfie Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:40:55pm |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:40:59pm |
re: #43 quickredfox
I was wondering that myself, by the look of the comments section, there will be a lot of broken noses.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:41:21pm |
re: #40 Ojoe
What plant is that? The leaves are not shaped like lamb’s ear leaves.
I don’t know! It’s near a place where I cycle sometimes. Don’t think it’s a lamb’s ear, though.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:41:23pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
That is EXACTLY what a totalitarian government does.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:41:49pm |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:41:55pm |
re: #46 wolfie
“……we can get inside their lives.”
Chilling words.
The most chilling words a government can utter.
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:42:10pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
Yeah…well..I tend to show up at the door nekkid when people I don’t know come down our long driveway. Ain’t a pretty sight. And if the food police ever show up at my door any time soon in America, they’ll be invited in so I can show them how to make dirt soup with arugula.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:42:12pm |
This may have been posted already.
Shoe sculpure removed.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:42:42pm |
re: #41 Sharmuta
Naughty girl! But then- that’s part of your charm. ;)
Hey! I’m not the one talking about petting fuzzy things.
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Gordon Marock Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:43:06pm |
re: #53 CapeCoddah
The most chilling words a government can utter.
Not quite, try ” … we can get inside their colons.”
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vagabond trader Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:43:17pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Saw that, and it would not go over well in my neighborhood.The Brits have become the most servile fools in the western hemisphere.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:43:46pm |
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quickredfox Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:43:54pm |
re: #50 MandyManners
That is EXACTLY what a totalitarian government does.
But — but — they’re doing it for your *good*!
///// (a whole page full of sarc marks wouldn’t be enough)
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Pietr Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:45:02pm |
re: #56 MandyManners
Hey! I’m not the one talking about petting fuzzy things.
Who was wanting to pet Avanti? Just curious…..
/white smoke…….
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:45:49pm |
Fatin al-Nassiri says Iraqi police told her the statue had to be removed from the orphanage in Tikrit because government property should not be used for something with a political bias.
WTF?
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BakaRanger Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:45:53pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….
[Link: [Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]…]
That is EXACTLY what a totalitarian government does.
The other day some upset Brits were marching to once again own firearms for home protection…good luck with that!
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:47:43pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
look how they call this a “scheme”
not a plan or a program or an initiative but a “scheme”
also that “hitting people at home” is pretty sinister.
gov’t has created ‘jobs’ for people to be paid for snooping in other people’s homes and reporting what they eat.
we need so much less gov’t.
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:48:00pm |
OT: Gotta love this….
Obama Praises Iraq on Provincial Elections
The money line….
“Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country - away from voting booths - while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.”
He really loves those soldiers, doesn’t he?
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wolfie Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:48:26pm |
re: #62 quickredfox
Well, yes. The only reason anyone could object to a tiny breach of freedom is that they are too cruel and callous to care about malnourished children. Lack of compassion. Yeah. Racism and homophobia, too. That’s it.
/
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:48:52pm |
re: #66 nyc redneck
And it will be coming to a neighborhood near you, just give Obama a year or so.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:49:24pm |
re: #62 quickredfox
But — but — they’re doing it for your *good*!
///// (a whole page full of sarc marks wouldn’t be enough)
They’d be talking to my shut door.
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Ojoe Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:49:26pm |
Well the Western Garden Book says the leaves of “Lamb’s Ears” are “white woolly” and that it can be used for contrast with plants that have “dark green and different shaped leaves”.
Probably not Lamb’s Ears.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:49:53pm |
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capitalist piglet Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:50:14pm |
re: #67 Pianobuff
OT: Gotta love this….
Obama Praises Iraq on Provincial Elections
The money line….
“Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country - away from voting booths - while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.”
He really loves those soldiers, doesn’t he?
Not to mention a 10% DoD budget cut.
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opnion Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:50:19pm |
re: #66 nyc redneck
look how they call this a “scheme”
not a plan or a program or an initiative but a “scheme”
also that “hitting people at home” is pretty sinister.
gov’t has created ‘jobs’ for people to be paid for snooping in other people’s homes and reporting what they eat.
we need so much less gov’t.
I would suggest that they go to one of the public housing high rises where Muslim Immigrants dominate. I don’t think that all would go well if they told Achmed to back away from the falafels.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:51:00pm |
re: #71 ploome hineni
where is there to go, where BigBrother will not find us?
Big brother is gonna need repeated fist-to-chops in the near future. The US citizenry is gonna have to start fighting back soon, or it will be too late.
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:51:24pm |
re: #61 CapeCoddah
LOL, I want an invite to see that!
I’ll let you know when the Obama food police show up. lol!
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:51:42pm |
re: #75 capitalist piglet
Maybe if enlistment rates go down far enough he can pull off his civilian security force magic.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:51:46pm |
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:09pm |
Cast your vote in poll grading Obama’s first days in office.
I gave him an A+!
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:10pm |
re: #67 Pianobuff
OT: Gotta love this….
Obama Praises Iraq on Provincial Elections
The money line….
“Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country - away from voting booths - while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.”
He really loves those soldiers, doesn’t he?
I LOATHE OUR POTUS.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:12pm |
re: #66 nyc redneck
look how they call this a “scheme”
not a plan or a program or an initiative but a “scheme”
also that “hitting people at home” is pretty sinister.
gov’t has created ‘jobs’ for people to be paid for snooping in other people’s homes and reporting what they eat.
we need so much less gov’t.
Who’s to say one of those food cops won’t be sussing a place out and come back later to break and enter?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:32pm |
re: #79 rightymouse
I’ll let you know when the Obama food police show up. lol!
Good. We can both go to the door nekkid. If you would just scare them, both of us would drop ‘em in their tracks.
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opnion Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:35pm |
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Pietr Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:52:45pm |
re: #67 Pianobuff
OT: Gotta love this….
Obama Praises Iraq on Provincial Elections
The money line….
“Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country - away from voting booths - while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.”
He really loves those soldiers, doesn’t he?
I also notice he waited until the Iraqi people were done, and in bed, before commenting. In fact, when he finally spoke up, they’d not get the news until their Sunday morning, if at all. But He did have to wait to be sure all went well, right………Arrgghhh.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:53:11pm |
re: #67 Pianobuff
OT: Gotta love this….
Click this article above that Pianobuff linked, then click “print”, a pop-up from icopyright appears. Never seen this before.
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:53:22pm |
re: #76 opnion
I would suggest that they go to one of the public housing high rises where Muslim Immigrants dominate. I don’t think that all would go well if they told Achmed to back away from the falafels.
they won’t intrude on the moslems. it would be disrespectful.
and they don’t want to get thrown off the roof.
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:53:30pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
Have you seen bloomie’s plant about salt?
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quickredfox Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:53:42pm |
re: #70 MandyManners
They’d be talking to my shut door.
With my large barking German Shepherd right on the other side of it.
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doppelganglander Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:03pm |
re: #37 CapeCoddah
Hello everyone!
I was just reading an article on Britain’s new food police. It won’t be long before the dems try to do this here..
“A Department of Health source said: “This scheme is designed to get people thinking about how to eat better. By hitting people at home, rather than in supermarkets, we can get inside their lives.
“It’s only by knocking on doors you can find out what they are having for their tea and offer some healthy suggestions.”….[Link: www.newsoftheworld.co.uk…]
You can pry my Oreos from my cold, dead fingers, Buster.
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opnion Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:23pm |
re: #90 nyc redneck
they won’t intrude on the moslems. it would be disrespectful.
and they don’t want to get thrown off the roof.
Right on both counts.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:29pm |
re: #80 Pianobuff
Maybe if enlistment rates go down far enough he can pull off his civilian security force magic.
Yeah. He’d find the money for that.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:31pm |
re: #82 monkeytime
Cast your vote in poll grading Obama’s first days in office.
I gave him an A+!
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Can I give him a “P” for “present”?
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doppelganglander Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:52pm |
re: #76 opnion
I would suggest that they go to one of the public housing high rises where Muslim Immigrants dominate. I don’t think that all would go well if they told Achmed to back away from the falafels.
Haven’t you heard? Goat is the other white meat.
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:54:52pm |
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:55:06pm |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:55:09pm |
re: #70 MandyManners
They’d be talking to my shut door.
England is NOT the US, Mandy, I don’t know if one can refuse entry to the police in England, the rules are much different.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:55:14pm |
re: #99 doppelganglander
Haven’t you heard? Goat is the other white meat.
Silly me, I thought it was camel.
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jwb7605 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:55:41pm |
re: #82 monkeytime
Cast your vote in poll grading Obama’s first days in office.
I gave him an A+!
//////////////FFFFFFFFFF////////FFFFFFFFF///////// /FFFFFFFFF
A combined 68% give him poor or failing.
Factor in that Fox is considered “conservative”, and I’d bet that it still indicates about half the country disappointed or worse.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:55:49pm |
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Pietr Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:56:04pm |
re: #81 JacksonTn
african violet?
Thought that myself, but the leaves seem over sized for one…..Hmmm.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:56:13pm |
re: #75 capitalist piglet
Not to mention a 10% DoD budget cut.
Obama seems unlikely to widen war in Afghanistan
President Barack Obama, who pledged during his campaign to shift U.S. troops and resources from Iraq to Afghanistan, has done little since taking office to suggest he will significantly widen the grinding war against a resurgent Taliban.
On the contrary, Obama appears likely to streamline the U.S. focus with an eye to the worsening economy and the cautionary example of the Iraq war that sapped political support for President George W. Bush.
“There’s not simply a military solution to that problem,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said last week, adding that Obama believes “that only through long-term and sustainable development can we ever hope to turn around what’s going on there.”
/we’ll be running away and abandoning Afghanistan before too long
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:56:49pm |
re: #100 brookly red
No, I am thinking it stops here.
It should have never gotten there, brookley, it won’t stop there.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:56:58pm |
re: #102 CapeCoddah
England is NOT the US, Mandy, I don’t know if one can refuse entry to the police in England, the rules are much different.
Being obese gives food police probable cause to enter.
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:57:22pm |
re: #91 brookly red
Have you seen bloomie’s plant about salt?
did he make a grab for salt.
i heard this was coming.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:57:26pm |
re: #102 CapeCoddah
England is NOT the US, Mandy, I don’t know if one can refuse entry to the police in England, the rules are much different.
These are not real cops.
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mjbrutus Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:57:37pm |
Woopsie. Military judges of the trials for the scum in Gitmo have flipped the new CINC the bird! Garsh Bambi, wutchya gonna do now?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:57:39pm |
re: #110 unrealizedviewpoint
Being obese gives food police probable cause to enter.
Something like that.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:57:41pm |
cautionary example of the Iraq war that sapped political support for President George W. Bush.
No….that was the traitorous MSM.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:58:01pm |
re: #104 ploome hineni
she is in a hot tub…from the side you can see the edge…she has 0 body fat
….lotsa bones
C’mon. If she was gonna’ get implants, why wouldn’t she get such small ones?
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:58:23pm |
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:58:41pm |
re: #89 unrealizedviewpoint
Click this article above that Pianobuff linked, then click “print”, a pop-up from icopyright appears. Never seen this before.
It let me R/Click and copy it - maybe you can copy and then print it.
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:58:43pm |
I hope everyone isn’t fighting in this thread, too.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 1:59:47pm |
re: #120 Shay4l
I hope everyone isn’t fighting in this thread, too.
Fighting? Here? LGF? Surely you jest.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:12pm |
re: #121 ploome hineni
she is not American..huge mamaries are not natural or desireable
Says the 36DD.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:17pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
These are not real cops.
No,but they have the force of the government behind them. That makes them agents of the government. Here, no government agent, law enforcement or otherwise cannot enter your home without a warrant, or exigent circumstances an emergency in progress.
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:38pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:43pm |
re: #119 monkeytime
It let me R/Click and copy it - maybe you can copy and then print it.
You can print free for personal use. I was just commenting on the ingenuity of the whole thing.
I just like the print view of articles, usually less cluttered.
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mich-again Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:54pm |
My thoughts and prayers are with all the hundreds of thousands without electricity, water or phones in Kentucky. I guess I didn’t realize how bad that ice storm was the other day. KY Governor calls in Nat’l Guard
More than half a million homes and businesses, most of them in Kentucky, remained with out electricity from the Ozarks through Appalachia, though temperatures creeping into the 40s helped a swarm of utility workers make headway. Finding fuel — heating oil along with gas for cars and generators — was another struggle for those trying to tough it out at home, with hospitals and other essential services getting priority over members of the public.The addition of 3,000 soldiers and airmen makes 4,600 Guardsmen pressed into service. It’s the largest call-up in Kentucky history, which Beshear called an appropriate response to a storm that cut power to more than 600,000 people, the state’s largest outage on record. Many people in rural areas cannot get out of their driveways due to debris and have no phone service, the governor said.
“With the length of this disaster and what we’re expecting to be a multi-day process here, we’re concerned about the lives and the safety of our people in their own homes,” Beshear said, “and we need the manpower in some of the rural areas to go door-to-door and do a door-to-door canvass … and make sure they’re OK.”
No public criticism of the Obama administration yet for not running to the aid of poor white folk in Appalachia. Maybe Shep Smith is on his way? /
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:55pm |
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doppelganglander Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:00:55pm |
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:01:27pm |
re: #121 ploome hineni
she is not American..huge mamaries are not natural or desireable
some men would disagree.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:01:45pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:02:08pm |
re: #124 CapeCoddah
No,but they have the force of the government behind them. That makes them agents of the government. Here, no government agent, law enforcement or otherwise cannot enter your home without a warrant, or exigent circumstances an emergency in progress.
No where in that article do I read that people will be forced to let them in.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:02:34pm |
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:01pm |
re: #110 unrealizedviewpoint
Being obese gives food police probable cause to enter.
i read somewhere that salt has increased by some 400% in some foods since 1972.. I think the Mayor has asked for those levels to be returned to..
Here is the deal..The Market can correct this..I’m a anti-sugar and anti-salt freak.. If you want my money you’ll make what we will buy and profit from it.
To legislate what people buy or eat seems so wrong../I’m covering my bases here..I smoke the cigar here and there..I don’t want to have the Gov’t send special agents to bust me smoking a Havana in my basement…
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wolfie Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:11pm |
re: #117 MandyManners
So she won’t look like balloons-on-a-stick.
Don’t know if she has ‘em or not, but if she does, she was wise to keep them proportional to her figure.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:12pm |
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:13pm |
re: #109 CapeCoddah
It should have never gotten there, brookley, it won’t stop there.
even in nyc folks are gettin tired of rule by billionaires… it will stop here.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:24pm |
re: #133 MandyManners
No where in that article do I read that people will be forced to let them in.
I hope not, but those things do tend to morph into initially unintended circumstances. When enough people talk to them, it will become mandatory with some sort of penalty for non compliance. The first person who opens the door and talks to them gives the whole mess credibility in governmental eyes.
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quickredfox Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:04:41pm |
re: #125 monkeytime
I had to settle for F, since there didn’t appear to be any lower options.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:05:14pm |
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wolfie Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:05:40pm |
re: #127 mich-again
My thoughts and prayers are with all the hundreds of thousands without electricity, water or phones in Kentucky. I guess I didn’t realize how bad that ice storm was the other day. KY Governor calls in Nat’l Guard
No public criticism of the Obama administration yet for not running to the aid of poor white folk in Appalachia. Maybe Shep Smith is on his way? /
Obama doesn’t like white people!
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:05:46pm |
re: #136 wolfie
So she won’t look like balloons-on-a-stick.
Don’t know if she has ‘em or not, but if she does, she was wise to keep them proportional to her figure.
She has quite the tight body.
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:06:08pm |
re: #112 nyc redneck
did he make a grab for salt.
i heard this was coming.
yup, the line has been crossed.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:06:46pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:07:07pm |
re: #137 ploome hineni
I couldn;t help it
:P
/not what I would have chosen
Maybe CBBHO could shrink them.
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:07:07pm |
re: #127 mich-again
That is so sad. I haven’t seen any coverage on it! Thanks for letting us know.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:07:23pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:07:51pm |
re: #135 HoosierHoops
i read somewhere that salt has increased by some 400% in some foods since 1972.. I think the Mayor has asked for those levels to be returned to.. Here is the deal..The Market can correct this..I’m a anti-sugar and anti-salt freak.. If you want my money you’ll make what we will buy and profit from it. To legislate what people buy or eat seems so wrong…
The masses want salt & sugar ..the marketplace is filling the need. What’s a mayor to do?
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doppelganglander Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:08:26pm |
re: #132 CapeCoddah
Nah, mint.
And as long as Obama doesn’t implement a British-style cabinet-snooping force, we can have whichever kind we want. Now I’m craving some Hostess Sno-Balls.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:08:26pm |
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:08:31pm |
re: #67 Pianobuff
OT: Gotta love this….
Obama Praises Iraq on Provincial Elections
The money line….
“Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country - away from voting booths - while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.”
He really loves those soldiers, doesn’t he?
The MFM just can’t admit the war is over and we won.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:09:13pm |
re: #140 CapeCoddah
I hope not, but those things do tend to morph into initially unintended circumstances. When enough people talk to them, it will become mandatory with some sort of penalty for non compliance. The first person who opens the door and talks to them gives the whole mess credibility in governmental eyes.
I read that there already is disapproval.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:09:24pm |
re: #157 doppelganglander
LOL, those are always stale here, gave up on those years ago. You can use them for chock blocks!
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quickredfox Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:10:16pm |
re: #120 Shay4l
you can’t fight in here, this is the War Room!
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SlartyBartfast Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:10:17pm |
re: #127 mich-again
My mom has been w/o power since Tuesday and the folks in my small hometown in SE Missouri have been taking care of themselves. There are some reports of Nat’l Guard in Kennett, MO (25 miles away, Sheryl “Short Bus” Crow’s hometown) but no outside help otherwise. Best case estimates predict electricity by mid-week. Worst case = 3+ weeks.
There’s some recent home video here at a friend’s MySpace page. (You’ll have to click the ‘video’ link on the front page to view it.)
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:10:19pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:10:41pm |
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:11:00pm |
re: #164 SlartyBartfast
My mom has been w/o power since Tuesday and the folks in my small hometown in SE Missouri have been taking care of themselves. There are some reports of Nat’l Guard in Kennett, MO (25 miles away, Sheryl “Short Bus” Crow’s hometown) but no outside help otherwise. Best case estimates predict electricity by mid-week. Worst case = 3+ weeks.
There’s some recent home video here at a friend’s MySpace page. (You’ll have to click the ‘video’ link on the front page to view it.)
//////Have they started looting?
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:11:03pm |
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:11:15pm |
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:12:05pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:13:02pm |
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:13:27pm |
re: #173 MandyManners
Jeffrey Donovan is a hottie. So is Bruce Campbell.
Bruce Campbell. I have a man-crush on him.
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SlartyBartfast Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:14:28pm |
re: #168 NYCHardhat
Heh. Sarcasm noted…no need to answer.
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:14:51pm |
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:15:25pm |
BART cop granted $3M bail in murder case
OAKLAND — A judge has set bail for the Bay Area transit officer accused of killing an unarmed man at $3 million.
Alameda County Superior Court Judge Morris Jacobson issued his decision Friday, after the lawyer for 27-year-old Johannes Mehserle argued that his client had mistakenly pulled his pistol rather than his stun gun.
Attorney Michael Rains argued that Mehserle didn’t act with malice when he fatally shot 22-year-old Oscar Grant in requesting that bail be set at $100,000.
Mehserle has pleaded not guilty to one count of murder. Cell phone videos of the incident show the officer shooting Grant as he was lying facedown on a train platform early New Year’s Day.
The case has sparked outrage among many residents and community leaders. Crowds gathered again outside the courthouse Friday, with demonstrators chanting that Mehserle should remain jailed.
Are bail amounts usually set this high for similar offenses?
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FrogMarch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:16:41pm |
Obama finally gets around to praising the elections in Iraq. No praise or mention of GWB.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:16:56pm |
re: #177 unrealizedviewpoint
BART cop granted $3M bail in murder case
Are bail amounts usually set this high for similar offenses?
I thought that bail was to insure that you’d be present at trial.
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:17:04pm |
re: #164 SlartyBartfast
Glad to hear your family is doing well. Seems like so much of our nation has lost that sense of self-reliance/neighbor helping neighbor instinct during tough times- e.g. Katrina and about every other natural disaster we’ve had the past 30 or so years…
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:17:20pm |
re: #139 brookly red
even in nyc folks are gettin tired of rule by billionaires… it will stop here.
Aye, they’re a feisty lot.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:17:20pm |
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:18:00pm |
re: #178 FrogMarch
Obama finally gets around to praising the elections in Iraq. No praise or mention of GWB.
Can Acorn be far behind?
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:18:28pm |
re: #172 NYCHardhat
Is it me, or does Fiona have less collagen in her lips this season ?
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:19:12pm |
re: #186 BigMoo
Is it me, or does Fiona have less collagen in her lips this season ?
Not sure, but she always had lips like that.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:19:14pm |
re: #108 Killian Bundy
/we’ll be running away and abandoning Afghanistan before too long
I’ve resisted the urge to say this up till now, but this pretty much proves what I’ve been thinking since the campaign, combined with The One’s A List of “experts” on the MidEast. Namely, that on the war against Islamist extremists, he’s going to do a Nixonian, Vietnam-style punt.
In 1972, according to Henry Kissinger, he (Kissinger) was sent to China in advance of Nixon’s famous visit, for a face-to-face with Mao Tse Tung (or Mao Zedong, if you prefer the modern form). In this meeting, Kissinger conveyed a message from Nixon that boiled down to “The U.S. can accept a Communist victory in Vietnam, as long as it happens after the U.S. withdrawal (‘Vietnamization’).” Mao agreed, and three years later NVA tanks rolled into Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City).
And one of the standard lines used by the “get-out-now” advisors then was “there is no military solution to this situation”. Among those giving said “advice” was none other than George Mitchell- who Obama just sent to Egypt.
When coupled with Obama’s al-Arabiya interview, which has apparently emboldened al-Qaeda et al (who see in it an echo of the Spanish government’s behavior after the Madrid bombings), this leads me to believe that The One is about to begin ever so slowly “de-emphasizing” our commitment to fighting the Islamists on their own turf. I further believe that he thinks that if he can “compartmentalize” the Islamist threat by avoiding direct confrontation with it, he can somehow “make a deal” with the Islamists, much as Carter tried to make with Brezhnev in the (in)famous “walk in the woods” in Geneva. The difference being, Obama will be even more shocked than Carter was at Brezhnev’s “we are not philanthropists” line when the leaders of the radicalized Islamist countries and groups tell him, “We owe you nothing- you must continue to do as we command because it is so written, Ins’Allah.”
Obama apparently does not understand that like the Chinese, the Islamists do not plan in terms of months, years, or election cycles. They plan in terms of decades and generations. President Bush said that the struggle against Islamist terrorism would be generational in nature. Obama is determined to end the “struggle” (for which read “resistance to terror”) now, in the “hope” of placating those who can never be placated by anything save our absolute surrender, enslavement, and eventual destruction. (To say nothing of what they have in mind for the rest of the Islamic world once we’re out of the way.)
Bin Laden once said that one of the things that al-Qaeda needed most was patience- because if they simply waited long enough, the United States would fold, and leave them victorious in possession of the battlefield. It looks as though Obama is about to show him how right he was.
eon
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:19:37pm |
re: #178 FrogMarch
Obama finally gets around to praising the elections in Iraq. No praise or mention of GWB.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
It chokes him to mention anything that might make Iraq look like a success since he can’t claim it and he is going to screw up Afghanistan.
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:20:07pm |
re: #85 CapeCoddah
Good. We can both go to the door nekkid. If you would just scare them, both of us would drop ‘em in their tracks.
That’ll also give us time to lock and load for their trespass on private property. :)
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:20:12pm |
re: #180 MandyManners
I thought that bail was to insure that you’d be present at trial.
Or to avoid rioting in the streets, maybe?
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pink freud Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:20:29pm |
re: #164 SlartyBartfast
There’s some recent home video here at a friend’s MySpace page. (You’ll have to click the ‘video’ link on the front page to view it.)
Unbelievable! I watched the whole thing. Thanks for posting.
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:21:07pm |
re: #188 NYCHardhat
She cracks me up ! I’m not aware of other work she’s done until ‘Burn Notice’- for such a ‘taut woman’, I figured the lips were injected…
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FrogMarch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:21:08pm |
re: #190 Iron Fist
That is surprising. The Democrats have been so respectful and classy, after all.
[/ Dripping]
Classy and respectful - but in a real hateful, backstabbing, lying and manipulative way.
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NYCHardhat Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:22:10pm |
re: #195 BigMoo
She cracks me up ! I’m not aware of other work she’s done until ‘Burn Notice’- for such a ‘taut woman’, I figured the lips were injected…
I first took notice in “If Looks Could Kill” with Richard Grieco. I was a wee lad when she got my engine running.
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:22:26pm |
re: #178 FrogMarch
Obama finally gets around to praising the elections in Iraq. No praise or mention of GWB.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
he is too much of a pathological narcissist to praise pres. bush.
O looks so petty here because obviously there would be no elections but for
pres. bush.
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jwb7605 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:22:56pm |
re: #189 eon
I always suspected that about Kissinger, and did not know that about Mitchell.
Nice summary, great post!
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:24:41pm |
re: #197 NYCHardhat
Totally understandable-she plays such a great character in Burn Notice-and is awfully easy on the eyes.
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FrogMarch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:25:09pm |
re: #191 monkeytime
It chokes him to mention anything that might make Iraq look like a success since he can’t claim it and he is going to screw up Afghanistan.
It does choke him.
Then there’s the media and their constant pissing on the effort.
Obama also noted that the U.S. provided technical assistance to the Iraqi electoral commission, as did the U.N. and other international groups. He didn’t, however, mention the U.S. troops that patrolled the country — away from voting booths — while the new Obama administration in Washington considers a new strategy for the unpopular war in Iraq.
The only resaon it might be “unpopular” (and I think most folks are happy we won) is because the DNC/MSM made it that way with their constant back-stabbing and ridiculing.
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SlartyBartfast Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:26:04pm |
re: #194 pink freud
Unbelievable! I watched the whole thing. Thanks for posting.
And just think: there’s a whole swath of the country, from North central Arkansas across SEMO, extreme west TN, Southern IL, and a good portion of KY like that. Hasn’t gotten much media coverage has it?
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lobo91 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:26:12pm |
Just saw the perfect combination of bumper stickers on a car:
“Maturity is overrated” next to an “Obama ‘08” sticker.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:26:24pm |
re: #199 Iron Fist
He’s still working on a plan to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It’ll be hard, because victory is so close, but we must have faith in the God-King.
Yes We Can!
Just have faith……….
//////////256
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FrogMarch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:26:25pm |
re: #198 nyc redneck
he is too much of a pathological narcissist to praise pres. bush.
O looks so petty here because obviously there would be no elections but for
pres. bush.
Petty indeed.
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:27:12pm |
re: #163 quickredfox
you can’t fight in here, this is the War Room!
That’s true, we might spill our pure non-bodily fluids. Which can be mighty expensive.
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:28:01pm |
re: #208 Shay4l
“Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas will all this”…
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:29:07pm |
Bishop who denied Holocaust apologizes to pope
VATICAN CITY (AP) - A bishop recently rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI expressed regret Friday to the pontiff for the “distress and problems” he caused by denying the Holocaust.
In a letter to the Vatican, Bishop Richard Williamson, who recently denied in a TV interview that 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, called his remarks “imprudent.”
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:29:46pm |
re: #193 unrealizedviewpoint
Or to avoid rioting in the streets, maybe?
That is an unconstitutional use of bail.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:30:50pm |
re: #201 ploome hineni
and I am totally freaking out
Why?
George Mitchell, like James Baker on the (R) side, has been the “go-to” guy on the MidEast going back to when he was a junior Senator in the Carter Administration- his involvement with the Vietnam drawdown was when he was in the House. And Kissinger’s statement was in an interview he gave two years ago in the runup to writing his memoirs. I figured everyone knew about this already. I was just pointing out the similarities in the two situations- one now history, the other apparently taking shape.
/Also hoping I’m wrong- but reasonably sure I’m not. Unfortunately.
cheers
eon
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:31:24pm |
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:31:27pm |
re: #203 FrogMarch
The only resaon it might be “unpopular” (and I think most folks are happy we won) is because the DNC/MSM made it that way with their constant back-stabbing and ridiculing.
Good points. Well it chokes me knowing that he SPITS on the graves of American’s finest that went over there and did the real work to set these people free and if he and MSM and there ilk systematically take it away the blood will be on their hands and the shame on their heads.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:31:55pm |
re: #204 SlartyBartfast
And just think: there’s a whole swath of the country, from North central Arkansas across SEMO, extreme west TN, Southern IL, and a good portion of KY like that. Hasn’t gotten much media coverage has it?
That’s just fly-over country.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:32:37pm |
re: #210 unrealizedviewpoint
Bishop who denied Holocaust apologizes to pope
VATICAN CITY (AP) - A bishop recently rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI expressed regret Friday to the pontiff for the “distress and problems” he caused by denying the Holocaust.
In a letter to the Vatican, Bishop Richard Williamson, who recently denied in a TV interview that 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, called his remarks “imprudent.”
Nice euphemism for “delusional” and/or “bare-faced lying”.
//////
cheers
eon
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:32:51pm |
re: #210 unrealizedviewpoint
Bishop who denied Holocaust apologizes to pope
VATICAN CITY (AP) - A bishop recently rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI expressed regret Friday to the pontiff for the “distress and problems” he caused by denying the Holocaust.
In a letter to the Vatican, Bishop Richard Williamson, who recently denied in a TV interview that 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, called his remarks “imprudent.”
Imprudent? IMPRUDENT? How about saying it’s a LIE?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:33:01pm |
re: #34 Charles
I was looking at buying some new wireless speakers. When I get the money I’ll try to remember to buy them trough the lgf amazon shopping link you posted on the previous thread.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:33:36pm |
re: #189 eon
Any response I have at this moment would result in instantaneous and irrevocable banning.
[deleted] x bazillion.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:34:14pm |
re: #213 unrealizedviewpoint
Tell it to the appellate judge.
Can you appeal a high bail? I thought that was at the sole discretion of the judge.
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pink freud Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:34:42pm |
re: #210 unrealizedviewpoint
Bishop who denied Holocaust apologizes to pope
/blockquote>
From your link:
VATICAN CITY (AP) - A bishop recently rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI expressed regret Friday to the pontiff for the “distress and problems” he caused by denying the Holocaust.
In a letter to the Vatican, Bishop Richard Williamson, who recently denied in a TV interview that 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, called his remarks “imprudent.”
The letter was posted on Williamson’s personal blog and addressed to Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, who has been dealing with the rehabilitation of Williamson and other renegade bishops who had been excommunicated.
The Holocaust denial had outraged Jewish groups and many others. It was not immediately clear if Williamson’s letter, which contained no apology for the content of his remarks, would ease that anger.
Yet, the headline reads: Bishop who denied Holocaust apologizes to pope
He regrets the distress and problems, but he still maintains his original position.
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lobo91 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:35:51pm |
re: #220 MandyManners
Can you appeal a high bail? I thought that was at the sole discretion of the judge.
Yes, bail amounts (or lack thereof) can be appealed.
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gregg Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:36:54pm |
re: #127 mich-again
No public criticism of the Obama administration yet for not running to the aid of poor white folk in Appalachia. Maybe Shep Smith is on his way? /
Any reports of Sean Penn riding to rescue on a snowmobile?
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monkeytime Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:37:42pm |
re: #218 Killgore Trout
I was looking at buying some new wireless speakers. When I get the money I’ll try to remember to buy them trough the lgf amazon shopping link you posted on the previous thread.
Can the link be left on the homepage so we can always find it and use it? Can Charles get credit for the amazon computer link on the homepage.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:38:30pm |
re: #220 MandyManners
Can you appeal a high bail? I thought that was at the sole discretion of the judge.
It’s done often I believe. That baby murdering monster in FL unsuccessfully appealed her bail.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:38:50pm |
re: #224 Iron Fist
I think that the war would have been over a couple of years ago if it weren’t for the likes of Reid, Pelosie, and Durbin (D-al Qaeda) encouraging the Jihadis with their promises of ensuring the defeat of the USA. They weren’t able to fully deliver on that promise, but they aren’t done trying yet.
And even if we succeed in Iraq, we can still lose in Afghanistan. the democrats are already working on it.
Democrats shitting on victories won with American blood since 1953.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:38:55pm |
re: #219 jcm
Any response I have at this moment would result in instantaneous and irrevocable banning.
[deleted] x bazillion.
Okayy, I’m beginning to think I should have kept post #189 in my “Don’t Say This in Polite Company” file……
To Charles;
Sir, if you think Post # 189 is out of line in any way, please delete it and accept my most humble apologies.
Respectfully Yours,
eon
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:39:03pm |
re: #223 gregg
Wasn’t Shep Smith an ‘over the top’ goof during Katrina ? I have refused to watch him since.
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:41:11pm |
re: #230 ploome hineni
So in essence, he said, “sorry for ticking off the Pope…I still believe what I believe…”
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:42:11pm |
re: #229 BigMoo
Wasn’t Shep Smith an ‘over the top’ goof during Katrina ? I have refused to watch him since.
He is unwatchable.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:42:43pm |
re: #231 Iron Fist
You can appeal just about any decision a court makes. That doesn’t mean you will win. This bail sounds excessive to me, but I am neither a lawyer nor a judge.
Just a lizard with a hell of a lot more commonsense then the aforementioned.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:42:55pm |
re: #228 eon
Okayy, I’m beginning to think I should have kept post #189 in my “Don’t Say This in Polite Company” file……
To Charles;
Sir, if you think Post # 189 is out of line in any way, please delete it and accept my most humble apologies.
Respectfully Yours,
eon
Your post is fine.
It just got my dander up.
I’m so sick of the (D) bastards throwing away things bought and paid for with the blood of finest young men and women.
The (D)s do not deserve what’s has been given them by generations of our finest, and granted to them by the American people.
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:43:19pm |
re: #220 MandyManners
Can you appeal a high bail? I thought that was at the sole discretion of the judge.
In MA you can request a bail review hearing which is heard by a single judge in superior court.
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vagabond trader Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:43:24pm |
Attention, FYI, The Pocket Obama is back in stock over at Amazon.
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:43:36pm |
re: #233 loppyd
LMAO-I never had seen this before…I can just imagine him tussling with the other reporter shouting “not in the face…not in the FACE!”…
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Killian Bundy Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:44:22pm |
re: #228 eon
Delete it?
/hell, you should get your own thread for laying out the truth like that, Obama’s been chipping away at our national security every single day since he took office 25 days ago
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:44:27pm |
re: #240 BigMoo
LMAO-I never had seen this before…I can just imagine him tussling with the other reporter shouting “not in the face…not in the FACE!”…
Definitely!
Laura Ingraham calls him Drac Boy. Very fitting….
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:44:49pm |
re: #189 eon
Well-written, eon, but somehow the best laid plans of mice and Islamists aft gang aglay, so we’ll see. Islam hasn’t much driven world events since about Vienna except for minor irritations like the Gulf wars, and they didn’t win those. Iran’s big weapon is still oil, and if they close the straits, they’ll piss off the Chinese, and cut their own income by 90%. IOW, they really can’t use it. Any nation that institutes sharia law cuts its own throat. Obama has run his mouth about Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Osama, let’s see what he does. If he invites disaster upon us, well then, we’ll have a disaster - that no doubt he will then try to blame on Bush. In the end it won’t come down to Obama, it will come down to the American people. I remain optimistic in the face of many facts that suggest otherwise.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:44:49pm |
re: #228 eon
Okayy, I’m beginning to think I should have kept post #189 in my “Don’t Say This in Polite Company” file……
To Charles;
Sir, if you think Post # 189 is out of line in any way, please delete it and accept my most humble apologies.
Respectfully Yours,
eon
1) This may not qualify as “polite company.”
2) All I see in your post are facts and analysis.
3) If someone is upset by reading your post, it is most likely because reality can be upsetting at times.
4) Personally, I find your suggestion that there might be a reason to delete #189 more upsetting than #189. It was a fine post!
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:45:00pm |
re: #236 unrealizedviewpoint
Just a lizard with a hell of a lot more commonsense then the aforementioned.
Huh?
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:45:11pm |
re: #233 loppyd
He is unwatchable.
I can literally think of only two talking head that are tolerable.
Brit Hume.
and Tony Snow (RIP).
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:45:19pm |
Yoohoo!
Back on topic for a sec, but could that fuzzy succulent in Charles’ pic be the ‘Vick’s plant’?
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:45:39pm |
re: #231 Iron Fist
You can appeal just about any decision a court makes. That doesn’t mean you will win. This bail sounds excessive to me, but I am neither a lawyer nor a judge.
Pandering to the mob.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:45:49pm |
re: #241 Killian Bundy
Delete it?
/hell, you should get your own thread for laying out the truth like that, Obama’s been chipping away at our national security every single day since he took office 25 days ago
Twenty five days?
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BigMoo Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:46:37pm |
re: #249 MandyManners
It just feels like 25 days-and then some.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:46:57pm |
re: #228 eon
Okayy, I’m beginning to think I should have kept post #189 in my “Don’t Say This in Polite Company” file……
To Charles;
Sir, if you think Post # 189 is out of line in any way, please delete it and accept my most humble apologies.
Respectfully Yours,
eon
Not you the subject of the post!
The post is excellent.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:46:58pm |
re: #245 MandyManners
Huh?
Iron Fist said: This bail sounds excessive to me, but I am neither a lawyer nor a judge. I replied to Iron Fist what I thought of him.
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:47:04pm |
re: #243 itellu3times
What happened on September 11, 2001, was not a minor irritation.
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FrogMarch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:47:33pm |
re: #224 Iron Fist
I think that the war would have been over a couple of years ago if it weren’t for the likes of Reid, Pelosie, and Durbin (D-al Qaeda) encouraging the Jihadis with their promises of ensuring the defeat of the USA. They weren’t able to fully deliver on that promise, but they aren’t done trying yet.
And even if we succeed in Iraq, we can still lose in Afghanistan. the democrats are already working on it.
Agreed. The supreme self-absorption of the political left is powerful.
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:47:43pm |
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:47:50pm |
re: #253 MandyManners
What happened on September 11, 2001, was not a minor irritation.
No it was a tragedy and we should move on……..
///// *spit* /////
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:47:50pm |
re: #252 unrealizedviewpoint
Iron Fist said: This bail sounds excessive to me, but I am neither a lawyer nor a judge. I replied to Iron Fist what I thought of him.
The cop who shot a prone man in the back?
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:48:11pm |
re: #246 jcm
I can literally think of only two talking head that are tolerable.
Brit Hume.
and Tony Snow (RIP).
Man, I miss Tony Snow.
And Brit has more class in his right pinkie than the staffs at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS & NBC combined.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:48:16pm |
One would think with all the damage done at least 25 days or more had passed.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:48:20pm |
re: #247 rightymouse
Yoohoo!
Back on topic for a sec, but could that fuzzy succulent in Charles’ pic be the ‘Vick’s plant’?
Sure looks like it. Now we just gotta get Charles to crush some leaves and sniff ‘em next time he’s nearby.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:48:37pm |
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:49:17pm |
re: #260 unrealizedviewpoint
One would think with all the damage done at least 25 days or more had passed.
It already feels like his second term to me…. :(
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rightymouse Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:49:50pm |
re: #261 wrenchwench
Sure looks like it. Now we just gotta get Charles to crush some leaves and sniff ‘em next time he’s nearby.
That’s the ticket! :)
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:50:45pm |
Ok I just got here…Someone please tell me: did the republicans ok their pay increase? Or did they vote against?
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esch Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:51:14pm |
re: #243 itellu3times
Generally the same here.
O’s blowing his wad as quickly as possible. They believe they have a mandate, but that just means they will employ no subtlety in their designs. All republicans have to do is stand firm in resisting so they can wrap all the consequences around the D’s necks come 2010.
O’s showing himself to be an unrefined, cowardly, incompetent delusional fool. As expected. I truthfully am having a hard time believing he’s showing his true colors so quickly.
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:51:47pm |
re: #265 Wishing
Ok I just got here…Someone please tell me: did the republicans ok their pay increase? Or did they vote against?
Not sure. Maybe someone here knows how to get the voting record.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:52:11pm |
re: #257 MandyManners
The cop who shot a prone man in the back?
If the cop had a previously clean record, and he’s statement was it was an accidental shooting. I’ve seen cops released on PR terms, in almost all cases criminal charges wait until a review board has a finding.
The rapidity of the charges and high bail is extraordinary.
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:52:23pm |
re: #253 MandyManners
What happened on September 11, 2001, was not a minor irritation.
Nor has it gone unanswered.
No, Islam remains a threat and irritant to all in the world, somewhere on the scale between cockroaches, bird flu, and being hit by an asteroid.
But it was much of our own weakness that allowed it. The discussion now is whether Obama will return us to that kind of weak state. Even if he doesn’t want it personally, lots of his brain-dead leftard supporters do. It’s not promising, but the disaster is not yet a done deal, is all I’m saying.
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:52:38pm |
re: #267 Pianobuff
Not sure. Maybe someone here knows how to get the voting record.
I just tried to and can’t locate it for today’s stuff
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:53:26pm |
re: #244 wrenchwench
1) This may not qualify as “polite company.”
2) All I see in your post are facts and analysis.
3) If someone is upset by reading your post, it is most likely because reality can be upsetting at times.
4) Personally, I find your suggestion that there might be a reason to delete #189 more upsetting than #189. It was a fine post!
I’m reticent by nature. When my ears begin burning I think of it as the consequences of what my mother used to call “thinking out loud a little too much”. I appreciate the praise from you, and the rest of the Lizards. Thanks. Seriously.
cheers
eon
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:54:29pm |
re: #228 eon
To Charles;
Sir, if you think Post # 189 is out of line in any way, please delete it and accept my most humble apologies.
No way! It was a fine post.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:54:32pm |
re: #249 MandyManners
Twenty five days?
Okay, eleven days.
/it would take most mortal people 25 days to do the damage he’s already done and that’s just to national security, between pushing insane socialist legislation and incessant bad mouthing the economy, he also seems bound and determined to single handedly run us into an depression
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:54:38pm |
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itellu3times Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:55:24pm |
re: #274 Killian Bundy
Okay, eleven days.
/it would take most mortal people 25 days to do the damage he’s already done and that’s just to national security, between pushing insane socialist legislation and incessant bad mouthing the economy, he also seems bound and determined to single handedly run us into an depression
Better pace yourself, KB, lots more to come.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:56:03pm |
re: #268 jcm
If the cop had a previously clean record, and he’s statement was it was an accidental shooting. I’ve seen cops released on PR terms, in almost all cases criminal charges wait until a review board has a finding.
The rapidity of the charges and high bail is extraordinary.
I suspect there most likely will be an appeal, a more reasonable bail set, bringing more attention to the case, more anger and more rioting. Good move Judge Morris.
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 2:59:14pm |
I am just furious about this congressional payraise. Damned hypocrites, condemning Wall Street fat cats. Damn damn them!
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JacksonTn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:00:17pm |
I saw where NBC is doing an interview of The One before the SuperBowl … they must just be trying to get people to run from their broadcasts …
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SlartyBartfast Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:01:19pm |
re: #278 Iron Fist
Based on Presidential experience, it’s possible that your congregation could sit there most Sundays for 20 years and never notice…
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:01:31pm |
re: #280 JacksonTn
I saw where NBC is doing an interview of The One before the SuperBowl … they must just be trying to get people to run from their broadcasts …
OR, it’s the only way they can be sure The One gets the audience that he and NBC are certain he deserves?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:02:41pm |
re: #278 Iron Fist
… If I should “God damn the Democrats!” from the pulpit of a “church”, does that get called “Patriotic dissent” or is it a hate crime?
Right now, probably it could be called “patriotic dissent”.
This time next year … who knows?
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:03:29pm |
re: #280 JacksonTn
I saw where NBC is doing an interview of The One before the SuperBowl … they must just be trying to get people to run from their broadcasts …
Psssst, i won’t be watching LOL
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jwb7605 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:04:21pm |
re: #278 Iron Fist
[SNIP]
If I should “God damn the Democrats!” from the pulpit of a “church”, does that get called “Patriotic dissent” or is it a hate crime?
What it seems to be is a lot of updings!
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:04:38pm |
re: #284 brookly red
Psssst, i won’t be watching LOL
I can’t watch, I can’t stomach him. It’s up to others to keep an eye on him. I cannot.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:04:59pm |
re: #284 brookly red
Psssst, i won’t be watching LOL
broklyred …I have not watched any major channels or msnbc since before the election …I mainly watch history, biography …stuff like that …I wish I could just pay for the channels I watch …
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:05:13pm |
Ha - Have to go across the pond to get any coverage of Obama’s Katrina Moment.
” Dozens of deaths have been reported and many people are pleading for a faster response to the power outages. Some in rural Kentucky ran short of food and bottled water, and resorted to dipping buckets in a creek …
Local officials grew angrier at what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Oh, hello. It’s a Katrina moment for President Obama.
Emergency Management Director Randell Smith … said roads are littered with fallen trees and people shivering in bone-chilling cold are in need.
“We’ve got people out in some areas we haven’t even visited yet,” Smith said. “We don’t even know that they’re alive.”
Smith said FEMA was still a no-show days after the storm.
According to the Katrina template, this is all Obama’s fault. Yet Kentucky’s Democrat governor Steve Beshear earlier praised Obama’s swift action … in making a phone call:
“I can’t tell you how appreciative we were,” the governor said. “He not only expressed his concern, but he obviously had the Kentuckians in his thoughts and prayers, and he communicated that to us.” “
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:05:36pm |
re: #286 unrealizedviewpoint
I can’t watch, I can’t stomach him. It’s up to others to keep an eye on him. I cannot.
I’m with you. He has to be the slithering-est man to ever hold office in the USA.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:05:49pm |
re: #287 JacksonTn
broklyred …I have not watched any major channels or msnbc since before the election …I mainly watch history, biography …stuff like that …I wish I could just pay for the channels I watch …
Well …I do watch FOX news sometimes …but even that not as much as …
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:06:29pm |
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:07:30pm |
re: #288 Pianobuff
snip: Oh, hello. It’s a Katrina moment for President Obama.
No way: KY is full of bitter clingers, dontcha know.
He will probably tell em to burn the pages of their Bibles for warmth.
Snake.
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:07:59pm |
re: #287 JacksonTn
broklyred …I have not watched any major channels or msnbc since before the election …I mainly watch history, biography …stuff like that …I wish I could just pay for the channels I watch …
OK! step 1! ;)
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:08:42pm |
re: #277 unrealizedviewpoint
I suspect there most likely will be an appeal, a more reasonable bail set, bringing more attention to the case, more anger and more rioting. Good move Judge Morris.
And if it’s found it was an accident, cop grabbed gun instead of taser. And he gets neg manslaughter or something. yeesh it will get bad.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:09:03pm |
re: #288 Pianobuff
Because Kentucky “suffers” from Red-State-itis?
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:09:24pm |
re: #293 Wishing
snip: Oh, hello. It’s a Katrina moment for President Obama.
No way: KY is full of bitter clingers, dontcha know.
He will probably tell em to burn the pages of their Bibles for warmth.
Snake.
Marty Hudak, spokesman for Obama FEMA director Nancy Ward, said emergency personnel can’t get to the people living (and dying) in these dangerous disaster areas because it’s, well, too dangerous to do so.
“We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions,” she told the AP.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:09:28pm |
Netanyahu says “Iran will not get hands on nukes”. I hope he means it, because we surely will not be doing any damned thing to stop it.
[Link: malaysia.news.yahoo.com…]
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:09:50pm |
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:10:40pm |
re: #297 Pianobuff
Marty Hudak, spokesman for Obama FEMA director Nancy Ward, said emergency personnel can’t get to the people living (and dying) in these dangerous disaster areas because it’s, well, too dangerous to do so.
“We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions,” she told the AP.
A congressional pay raise is FAR more important than saving the lives of those coal miners anyway.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:03pm |
re: #295 jcm
And if it’s found it was an accident, cop grabbed gun instead of taser. And he gets neg manslaughter or something. yeesh it will get bad.
I’m sorry, but for me, that’s gotta be what happened. If ya gonna kill a guy do it in private.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:19pm |
re: #292 eon
Thank you, Sir.
cheers
eon
You always rock eon..
As far as that post..I don’t think Kissinger made a deal to end the war..What you said would be a huge scandal..But i was a kid then..
I read congress would not fund the war..it was all down hill from there..
N money..no war..no victory..
Kind regards eon..bring it bro you rock
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brookly red Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:21pm |
re: #299 huckfunn
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
states rights?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:29pm |
re: #299 huckfunn
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
SCOTUS will shoot that down, they made their take on this known last summer.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:46pm |
re: #293 Wishing
snip: Oh, hello. It’s a Katrina moment for President Obama.
No way: KY is full of bitter clingers, dontcha know.
He will probably tell em to burn the pages of their Bibles for warmth.
Snake.
Don’t forget
Ky voted for McCain.
Sen Rep Ldr is from Ky.
They’re screwed.
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:11:49pm |
re: #299 huckfunn
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
I think gun law is state, not federal mandate. Doesn’t have a chance.
(Please God)
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:13:02pm |
There’s a town a bit north of here (Felton) which has a reputation as a speed trap, for very good reason. Well, someone living just north of the usual hiding place put up a sign on the southbound side, using a full sheet of that pink construction foam, that said “Speed Trap Ahead.”
Seems the town recently told him to take it down. He got hold of the ACLU, according to a radio report Mr. Empire just told me about, and the decision just came out. The sign stays!
I wish I had more details, but this is all I know.
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:13:07pm |
re: #298 CapeCoddah
Netanyahu says “Iran will not get hands on nukes”. I hope he means it, because we surely will not be doing any damned thing to stop it.
[Link: malaysia.news.yahoo.com…]
jihadis respect netanyahu.
jihadis laugh at obama.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:13:50pm |
re: #299 huckfunn
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
(aa) Firearm Licensing Requirement-
`(1) IN GENERAL- It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license—
`(A) under title I of Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under that title; or
`(B) pursuant to a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under State law.
`(2) APPLICABLE DATE- In this subsection, the term `applicable date’ means—
`(A) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person before the date of the enactment of Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 2 years after such date of enactment; and
`(B) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person on or after the date of the enactment of Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 1 year after such date of enactment.’.
SEC. 102. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.(a) In General- In order to be issued a firearm license under this title, an individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under subsection (b)) an application, which shall include—
AG Holder a big gun grabber…
So it begins.
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:14:06pm |
re: #308 Empire1
There’s a town a bit north of here (Felton) which has a reputation as a speed trap, for very good reason. Well, someone living just north of the usual hiding place put up a sign on the southbound side, using a full sheet of that pink construction foam, that said “Speed Trap Ahead.”
Seems the town recently told him to take it down. He got hold of the ACLU, according to a radio report Mr. Empire just told me about, and the decision just came out. The sign stays!
I wish I had more details, but this is all I know.
Ever drive through Waldo?
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:14:13pm |
re: #189 eon
What’s worse, is that the Vietnamese only wanted their own country (to be ruled by a communist dictatorship, so that was bad). The Chinese wanted more, but the Vietnamese weren’t interested in dying for the Chinese.
The Islamicists want the whole world. We will end up with a much bigger battle, especially once they get nukes.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:14:35pm |
Hot Air headlines….
Al Qaeda Video Featuring Former GITMO Prisoners, Translated
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:15:00pm |
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Buster Bunny Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:15:34pm |
Actually the Islamists have an idea that its their success that allows them to move into failing states. Its more of a parasitic culture that relies of the idea that the state is failed or near collapse. Then its just a matter of fear and intimidation to get things moving their way.
They RELY on failure as their first step of implementation.
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VegasRick Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:15:39pm |
re: #309 nyc redneck
jihadis FEAR AND respect netanyahu.
jihadis laugh at AND SCREW WITH obama.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:15:54pm |
re: #307 Wishing
I think gun law is state, not federal mandate. Doesn’t have a chance.
(Please God)
Clinton Federal gun laws banned assault weapons.
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ArmyWife Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:16:03pm |
re: #310 jcm
It needs to get out of Committee first. When/if that happens, we roll with the letters, calls, faxes, emails, until someone is begging for mercy.
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:16:44pm |
re: #307 Wishing
I googled it and it says that U.S. Congressman Bobby Rush of Illinois presented the bill. I think this is a Federal proposal. Google it and see what you think.
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Outrider Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:16:52pm |
re: #308 Empire1
There’s a town a bit north of here (Felton) which has a reputation as a speed trap, for very good reason. Well, someone living just north of the usual hiding place put up a sign on the southbound side, using a full sheet of that pink construction foam, that said “Speed Trap Ahead.”
Seems the town recently told him to take it down. He got hold of the ACLU, according to a radio report Mr. Empire just told me about, and the decision just came out. The sign stays!
I wish I had more details, but this is all I know.
serves the same purpose, slows folks down. That is supposed to be the rational.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:17:09pm |
re: #309 nyc redneck
jihadis respect netanyahu.
jihadis laugh at obama.
Yes, especially true since the Iranian govt. now opines….
“Iran says Obama’s offer to talk shows US failure”
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]
Isn’t BHO a frickin genius?
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:17:45pm |
re: #308 Empire1
Hoyt Axton had a great song about speed traps.
Lyrics from here.
I’m the cop in a little bitty town and i don’t get much pay
Oh but i caught seventeen out of state cars and four of my friends today
Yeah i let the hometown boys go home they paid five dollars bail
Oh but all the drivers in the out of state cars had to go to jail
Well they hollered and they moaned and they cried and they groaned
They all swore that they’d sue
But the judge was high and so was i and we needed the money too
Yeah the judge and me got a deal you see we split the money fair
Except for thirty percent to the county seat to keep the law out of our hair
And old charlie’s working out real good
Down at the corner store where the red light is
He sees them out of state plates two blocks away
And when they get right up on top of that green light
Old charlie pushes that secret button underneath the corner drugstore counter
That yellow light only lasts for a tenth of a second
Oh the county pays me about forty a week ain’t that the living end
If it wasn’t for them tourists in them out of state cars i’d have no look to spend
But the way it stands this year so far i’ve made a hundred thou
For a high school dropout i’m a doin’ fine
I make more than the president now
Of course he’s honest
So if you’re driving down the road and flashing lights you see
If they’re on a top of a red rolls royce you can bet your boots it’s me
Cause i’m the cop in a little bitty town and i’d sure like to see
All the drivers in them out of state cars try to get by me
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:04pm |
re: #322 CapeCoddah
Yes, especially true since the Iranian govt. now opines….
“Iran says Obama’s offer to talk shows US failure”
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]Isn’t BHO a frickin genius?
He doesn’t know what the hell he is doing.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:11pm |
re: #308 Empire1
There’s a town a bit north of here (Felton) which has a reputation as a speed trap, for very good reason. Well, someone living just north of the usual hiding place put up a sign on the southbound side, using a full sheet of that pink construction foam, that said “Speed Trap Ahead.”
Seems the town recently told him to take it down. He got hold of the ACLU, according to a radio report Mr. Empire just told me about, and the decision just came out. The sign stays!
I wish I had more details, but this is all I know.
I love this story!
I’m one who flashes my headlights at oncoming speeding traffic when they’re heading into a trap.
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callahan23 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:13pm |
re: #315 Buster Bunny
Actually the Islamists have an idea that its their success that allows them to move into failing states. Its more of a parasitic culture that relies of the idea that the state is failed or near collapse. Then its just a matter of fear and intimidation to get things moving their way.
They RELY on failure as their first step of implementation.
According to that Europe must be a pretty f*cked-up place.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:17pm |
re: #315 Buster Bunny
Actually the Islamists have an idea that its their success that allows them to move into failing states. Its more of a parasitic culture that relies of the idea that the state is failed or near collapse. Then its just a matter of fear and intimidation to get things moving their way.
They RELY on failure as their first step of implementation.
And they’re licking their chops about the US right now, with the 0 as president.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:26pm |
re: #307 Wishing
I think gun law is state, not federal mandate. Doesn’t have a chance.
(Please God)
I’m just curious , what state do you live in?
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:34pm |
re: #302 unrealizedviewpoint
I’m sorry, but for me, that’s gotta be what happened. If ya gonna kill a guy do it in private.
I watched several of the videos, and it was a real WTF? There’s a lot of training that goes into LE firearms handling, none of the associated behaviors are present which are drilled until they become automatic. The action is more consistent with taser use.
That said it’s still a CF, and at the very best the officer screwed up and someone got shot.
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Dustyvet Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:18:36pm |
re: #310 jcm
AG Holder a big gun grabber…
So it begins.
It’s started … Submitted by Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009)
Illinois…AGAIN!
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:19:07pm |
re: #325 unrealizedviewpoint
I love this story!
I’m one who flashes my headlights at oncoming speeding traffic when they’re heading into a trap.
Man… I see you everywhere! Thanks.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:19:16pm |
re: #324 loppyd
He doesn’t know what the hell he is doing.
I am terrified that he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:19:19pm |
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:19:57pm |
re: #319 huckfunn
I googled it and it says that U.S. Congressman Bobby Rush of Illinois presented the bill. I think this is a Federal proposal. Google it and see what you think.
I think what is going to happen is people are going to get fed UP with the shenanigans going on in DC and someone is gonna make a bad decision to get out their weapons. Shortly after, Pelosi will will be wailin that we are all trying to kill her and that the government must step in *to protect government employees. Then we can all just kiss it gbye.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:20:35pm |
re: #318 ArmyWife
It needs to get out of Committee first. When/if that happens, we roll with the letters, calls, faxes, emails, until someone is begging for mercy.
Don’t I know it.
I will say this, I’ve mentioned Obama / Reid / Pelosi would go after guns early if BHO got elected. And got flack for it.
jus’ sayin’
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Buster Bunny Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:20:37pm |
re: #327 Kosh’s Shadow
And they’re licking their chops about the US right now, with the 0 as president.
Think of it Kosh .. the largest failed state in the world run by a Manchurian Candidate … if I was a Islamist at the moment .. i’d be drooling.
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Pianobuff Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:20:59pm |
re: #333 Empire1
Not that I recall; where is it?
FL… somewhere between Gainesville and Jacksonville if my memory is good. It’s a Winchester House of detours, roadsigns, etc. designed to be a revenue stream. It’s a really small town, but they have a super nice police station.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:21:04pm |
re: #330 Dustyvet
It’s started … Submitted by Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009)
Illinois…AGAIN!
48 of 50 states have some form of concealed carry. Can you guess one of the two that don’t?
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:21:12pm |
re: #334 Wishing
I think what is going to happen is people are going to get fed UP with the shenanigans going on in DC and someone is gonna make a bad decision to get out their weapons. Shortly after, Pelosi will will be wailin that we are all trying to kill her and that the government must step in *to protect government employees. Then we can all just kiss it gbye.
Of course, Al Qaeda could nuke DC first. (I hope not. Better that they get caught trying, and it results in the end of the Democratic party; no one votes for them any more. Too bad we don’t have much of an alternative right now.)
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:22:06pm |
re: #330 Dustyvet
It’s started … Submitted by Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009)
Illinois…AGAIN!
Which makes me think it’s on a congress critter who’s off the reservation.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:22:11pm |
re: #273 Charles
No way! It was a fine post.
You know Charles..Sometimes you amaze me..
You get emails damning you to hell for believing Science and having a fair mind..Yet somebody has an opinion on the Vietnam war and worries if he offends you..Yet you are never offended by honesty…and sanity.
You show support and kindness..
You see you mofo’s that have been banned here?
Charles has something you will never have ..integrity…
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Wishing Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:22:38pm |
re: #328 screaming_eagle
I’m just curious , what state do you live in?
Tennessee here, and proud of it!
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loppyd Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:23:14pm |
re: #332 CapeCoddah
I am terrified that he knows exactly what he is doing.
Oh, I think he has an agenda, no doubt. But he is so used to just coasting along with platitudes and campaign sound bytes that he has no clue how to lead.
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Buster Bunny Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:23:42pm |
re: #342 HoosierHoops
You know Charles..Sometimes you amaze me..
You get emails damning you to hell for believing Science and having a fair mind..Yet somebody has an opinion on the Vietnam war and worries if he offends you..Yet you are never offended by honesty…and sanity.
You show support and kindness..
You see you mofo’s that have been banned here?
Charles has something you will never have ..integrity…
and a BIIIIIG STICK !
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:24:45pm |
re: #323 Kosh’s Shadow
ROFL! Actually, Harrington (the town nearest to me) is a heck of a speed trap too — to the point rumor says they have the best equipment in the state, and that the State Police actually borrow it from them on occasion. That part I don’t have any personal knowledege of, but I’ve seen the speed trap part in operation often enough that I can assure you it’s 100% true! Mostly from Memorial Day through Labor Day, but to a lesser degree the rest of the year as well.
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ArmyWife Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:24:53pm |
re: #330 Dustyvet
I don’t think this one will get anywhere, but it’s interesting to view the mindset. For instance, making it illegal to not report a change in address, just like we do with sex offenders. If I recall, the libs were up in arms about violating civil rights of sex offenders when those laws were passed!
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:25:04pm |
re: #334 Wishing
I think what is going to happen is people are going to get fed UP with the shenanigans going on in DC and someone is gonna make a bad decision to get out their weapons. Shortly after, Pelosi will will be wailin that we are all trying to kill her and that the government must step in *to protect government employees. Then we can all just kiss it gbye.
Nah, they’ll just pass it under the guise of protecting the citizenry following some future catastrophic event like Columbine.
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USBeast Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:25:34pm |
re: #325 unrealizedviewpoint
I love this story!
I’m one who flashes my headlights at oncoming speeding traffic when they’re heading into a trap.
That bit of courtesy is going by the wayside. I remember when honking one’s horn before passing was the thing to do. Now it will just get you flipped off.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:25:39pm |
re: #335 huckfunn
Ohio here. You know you run into people even here that swear it is a fed issue. They use the 4th amend as proof why. It’s a sure way to restrict states like ours to some funny east coast/west coast gun laws.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:26:02pm |
re: #344 Iron Fist
The NFA (National Firearms Act) has been violating American’s civil rights since 1934. It was signed into law by FDR. The 1968 Gun Control act expanded these violations, and added even more. Signed into law by Lyndon Johnson.
The Democrats have been coming for our guns for most of the 20th Century. It is not much of a surprise that they will continue to do so in the 21st Century.
Our only hope is our Supreme Court.
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ArmyWife Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:26:16pm |
re: #339 screaming_eagle
And then the other 7 states don’t allow guns at all, right? ;)
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Empire1 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:28:48pm |
re: #338 Pianobuff
FL… somewhere between Gainesville and Jacksonville if my memory is good. It’s a Winchester House of detours, roadsigns, etc. designed to be a revenue stream. It’s a really small town, but they have a super nice police station.
I haven’t, then. The only place I’ve been in Florida was the Key West naval station, on a scuba diving trip as part of the AquaMarines diving team from Cherry Point in the early ’60s. We flew in and out on an R4D — DC-3, in civilian.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:29:03pm |
re: #340 Kosh’s Shadow
Of course, Al Qaeda could nuke DC first. (I hope not. Better that they get caught trying, and it results in the end of the Democratic party; no one votes for them any more. Too bad we don’t have much of an alternative right now.)
The many prevented attacks during the Bush terms served little to wake up the dems to the threat. I highly doubt an attempt on DC would make cause for alarm. They’re too dense.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:29:09pm |
re: #343 Wishing
Tennessee here, and proud of it!
I was only asking cause of your states gun laws. There are several states that are on the gun control hit lists and was wondering if you lived in one.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:30:08pm |
re: #353 ArmyWife
And then the other 7 states don’t allow guns at all, right? ;)
Is that an Obama quote?
LMAO
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:30:43pm |
re: #351 screaming_eagle
Ohio here. You know you run into people even here that swear it is a fed issue. They use the 4th amend as proof why. It’s a sure way to restrict states like ours to some funny east coast/west coast gun laws.
It never fails to amaze me; libs translate the 1st as broadly as possible and the 2nd as narrowly as possible.
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nyc redneck Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:31:54pm |
re: #315 Buster Bunny
Actually the Islamists have an idea that its their success that allows them to move into failing states. Its more of a parasitic culture that relies of the idea that the state is failed or near collapse. Then its just a matter of fear and intimidation to get things moving their way.
They RELY on failure as their first step of implementation.
they love failed states. they go in and become kings.
failed states are the ideal situation for marauding jihadis. easy pickin’s.
but they are everywhere, trying everything to spread their screed.
pushing boundaries in many places w/ violence,
teeming and festering in europe and britain, pushing sharia, using aggression, making demands to intimidate citizens.
islamists, as they boast themselves, are not here to be equal, they are here to dominate. the world.
maybe we should tell O.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:36:42pm |
re: #361 Iron Fist
I like the way they treat the amendment that legalized abortion as an absolute right. Which one was that in again? I always forget.
The right to privacy. The one that says murder is okay.
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:38:53pm |
re: #351 screaming_eagle
I’m just west of Austin (married to a girl from Columbus, OH). Everyone down here drives pick-ups and SUVs. About 15 years ago some outfit from Massa2shits came down to Austin and bought an upscale apartment complex. The next day they put signs in the parking lot that said “NO PICKUP TRUCKS”. BWahahaha. That went over like a fart in church and lasted about as long.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:40:38pm |
re: #361 Iron Fist
I like the way they treat the amendment that legalized abortion as an absolute right. Which one was that in again? I always forget.
4th, it cast a “emanation of a penumbra” of privacy, and that extends to a women’s right to choose.
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GOPManHatTanIte Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:40:47pm |
So this is what phelps was putting into that bong…
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razorbacker Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:41:11pm |
When Electricity Came (back) to Arkansas
And boys and girls, after five days I am pretty damned happy about it.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:41:11pm |
re: #299 huckfunn
HR 45: House Bill to require Fed. License to Own a Gun
Here’s a wake-up call.
As I read HR 45, a “qualifying firearm” would be defined as;
1. Any semiautomatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with a capacity greater than 10 rounds, such as DC’s infamous twenty-round single-stack 1911 magazine, based on one tested and discarded by the U.S. Army Signal Corps as a weapon to arm scout planes with (pre-machine gun armament), because it had the small drawback that it didn’t work reliably and kept jamming the weapon;
2. Any handgun; and
3. Any firearm not defined as an “antique” or “collector” arm. This is an especially grey area, as BATFE has two entirely different definitions of “antique” it uses, one stating that the arm must be at least fifty years old, the other insisting that it must be one hundred years old. The first definition came from GCA’68, the other from the Gun Owner’s Protection Act of 1986. The “50-year” definition at the time (forty-one years ago) excluded all weapons made after World War One from consideration as “antiques”. The more stringent 1986 definition excluded such arms as every existing Mauser M1896 “Broomhandle” automatic pistol, most Webleys after the 1882 Webley-Kaufmann (the Mk I, of colonial campaign fame, was introduced in 1887), and of course all Smith & Wesson solid frame revolvers, including the very desirable New Century “Triple lock” models. Please note that there seems to be no exception (as was once found in French law) for modern reproductions of such classic arms- so the present-day S&W Model 210, a blue-steel fixed-sight 5” N-frame .44 Special (commonly if inaccurately thought of as the “Indiana Jones” model), a recreation of the 1920s-vintage Model 21 .44 Special Heavy Duty, would not fall under either the “antique” or “collector’s item” exceptions.
And then there’s the effort under way to revive one of the Dems’ favorite anti-self-defense gambits- the 500% tax on ammunition. Except this time around, they want it on all ammunition, not just “types commonly associated with crimes”. So having a .38-40 instead of a 9mm isn’t going to help.
I can only conclude that that anyone wanting to defend themselves under The One’s benign rule is best advised to find an original Winchester Model 1873 in .44-40… and take up reloading. With home-artificed black powder.
Either that, or get a crossbow.
cheers
eon
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Scion9 Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:43:16pm |
re: #359 jcm
It never fails to amaze me; libs translate the 1st as broadly as possible and the 2nd as narrowly as possible.
I dunno. From where I’m standing I can’t say that the Dems are big fans of free speech either. They are particularly big fans of illiterate censorship, with an FCC head that doesn’t watch any TV or listen to any radio.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:43:47pm |
re: #362 unrealizedviewpoint
The right to privacy. The one that says murder is okay.
Splitting hairs, but important to remember.
There is no Constitutional “right to privacy” our papers and property are not subject to seizure without due process this is different than privacy.
We have a legal right, different from a Constitutional right or inalienable right, to an “expectation of privacy” in certain areas.
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razorbacker Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:46:06pm |
re: #367 eon
If passed, look for a Republican landslide in ‘10. I suspect the Dems know that. If any Arkansas Dem votes in favor of this monstrocity, they’ll be selling ice cream in hell before another one is elected.
Lots of states prolly feel the same way.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:47:28pm |
re: #363 huckfunn
I live in rural NW Ohio. We got new neighbors that come from CA. They are animals rights activists. We live on the edge of Amish country. Guess how well that is going over.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:49:51pm |
re: #367 eon
I can only conclude that that anyone wanting to defend themselves under The One’s benign rule is best advised to find an original Winchester Model 1873 in .44-40… and take up reloading. With home-artificed black powder.
They’ve got that covered, this will make a come back. Reclassifying ammo and reloading supplies as high explosive, making sales, storage, and private use virtually impossible.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:50:49pm |
re: #371 screaming_eagle
I live in rural NW Ohio. We got new neighbors that come from CA. They are animals rights activists. We live on the edge of Amish country. Guess how well that is going over.
So? Hitch some of those animal rights wackos to a wagon to give the horse a break.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:51:58pm |
re: #373 jcm
Actually the Amish have taken it to far. But what do you expect, their lives depend on there animals.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:53:00pm |
re: #374 screaming_eagle
Actually the Amish have taken it to far. But what do you expect, their lives depend on there animals.
Too far in fighting back? Or animal use / abuse?
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:54:24pm |
re: #367 eon
Excellent dissertation! I guess I’d better start stockpiling rocks.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:54:48pm |
Skinned cats and dogs hung from the trees in the activists yard. Sherrif had to come out a lot. Got about a half dozen security lights down there now.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:56:23pm |
re: #377 screaming_eagle
Skinned cats and dogs hung from the trees in the activists yard. Sherrif had to come out a lot. Got about a half dozen security lights down there now.
Doesn’t sound very Amish. Damn, I hope things dial back a notch.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:59:19pm |
re: #379 jcm
I think both sides have backed off. The thing that gets me is that these people moved here. They knew the surrondings and thought they could come here and change peoples lives. Blows you away. The stupidity.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:01:49pm |
re: #380 screaming_eagle
I think both sides have backed off. The thing that gets me is that these people moved here. They knew the surrondings and thought they could come here and change peoples lives. Blows you away. The stupidity.
Know that all too well. There’s a gun range in Kenmore Wa, 20 years ago it was out in the woods. Now it’s surrounded by developments. The homeowners are forever dialing 911 reporting gunfire……..
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:02:02pm |
re: #356 screaming_eagle
I was only asking cause of your states gun laws. There are several states that are on the gun control hit lists and was wondering if you lived in one.
OH is definitely on the HCI/NCSHV/etc. hit list. They frequently blame our “lax” gun laws for the gun violence in DC, NYC, etc., on the grounds that they have “proof” that guns used there are bought here. So far, even with BATFE in their corner, they have yet to convince a Federal grand jury to indict anyone. They want a “uniform” national law, based on Washington’s pre-Heller one (which incidentally was the basis for those in Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Dayton, and Youngstown- the only places in the state with serious homicide rate problems). They were dealt a nasty shock last year when Ohio passed its “castle” law (as in “A Man’s Home Is”), which basically says that an intruder in your home may be engaged at will without waiting to determine if he is armed. Previously, Ohio courts held that you were required to “retreat if possible” (not codified in law), meaning that if an intruder invaded, you were supposed to vacate the premises rather than confront him. (This begged the question “what if he has an accomplice outside waiting for you to try to escape?”- and a pair of serial rapists in Cleveland used exactly that MO ten years ago.) Our (D) Governor, Strickland, signed it into law, to much gnashing of teeth by his Lt. Governor, Lee Fisher, a former State AG who hates guns and their owners as badly as Ted Kennedy does- and who incidentally is a “former” member of HCI himself- while he was AG.
They need to take a good look at the UK and Australia. Since both have outlawed civilian firearms ownership, their violent crime rates have exploded. Then again, I’ve known enough “progressives” who define crime as a “legitimate redress of societal inequalities” that maybe they know, and just don’t care. As long as they can have their armed bodyguards, that is.
cheers
eon
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:02:22pm |
re: #381 So?
I’m sure somebody already said it: SOYLENT GREEN!
Hmmm, not familiar with that…
What is SOYLENT GREEN!
/ ;-P
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:03:18pm |
re: #371 screaming_eagle
Sounds like the Catfields and McDogs. Who’s winning?
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:06:09pm |
re: #386 screaming_eagle
Now that is funny.
Dispatchers have all the address in the area flagged, reports of gun fire during range operating hours are not responded too.
Same mentality, folks move out to the country, but then when country life doesn’t agree with big city values……
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:09:09pm |
re: #383 eon
Yep. That why I asked the question way back in the thread. I have had many arguments even here regarding Fed standards. The problem Dems have attacking our gun laws is our constitution. It’s way to clear cut and outright. Why even Dems from our state often get passing grades from the NRA. Only those from the urban areas oppose gun rights.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:13:30pm |
re: #370 razorbacker
If passed, look for a Republican landslide in ‘10. I suspect the Dems know that. If any Arkansas Dem votes in favor of this monstrocity, they’ll be selling ice cream in hell before another one is elected.
Lots of states prolly feel the same way.
I think they expect one anyway- at least, the ones in marginal contact with reality who remember 1994. And I further think that this time around, they intend to do as much irrevocable damage as they possibly can in the next two years, by passing laws, using Executive Orders, and generally snarling up everything in red tape to make it impossible for anyone to undo their “new direction” even if they lose control of one or both Houses in twenty-two months. And I also expect that if they do lose control of either House in 2010, the “lame duck” session will be a high-speed barrage of “get ‘em done now” laws intended to prevent any “relapse” into sanity before they can “hope”fully seize power again in 2012. Remember, the lawsuit that broke up ITT under the Nixon Justice Department was filed on the last working day of the Johnson Administration- by then-AG Ramsey Clark. As the statute was written under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, once the prosecution began, the sitting AG (John Mitchell) had no control over it- it was an institutional priority.
Look for the Dems to use similar tricks to force a non-Dem-controlled Congress to continue “cooperating” with a President they have little use for. After all, it worked for Clinton.
cheers
eon
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:15:12pm |
re: #388 screaming_eagle
Yep. That why I asked the question way back in the thread. I have had many arguments even here regarding Fed standards. The problem Dems have attacking our gun laws is our constitution. It’s way to clear cut and outright. Why even Dems from our state often get passing grades from the NRA. Only those from the urban areas oppose gun rights.
I agree with you that’s clear cut, but we still have an IL. The bill above doesn’t have a chance IMHO, but it still may pass and be signed with the current crop in DC and await a court challenge. Meanwhile they’ll try all kinds of petty regulations like the OSHA rules to make life miserable so that only the most bitter and clingy of us will hang on.
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eon Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:19:02pm |
re: #391 jcm
I agree with you that’s clear cut, but we still have an IL. The bill above doesn’t have a chance IMHO, but it still may pass and be signed with the current crop in DC and await a court challenge. Meanwhile they’ll try all kinds of petty regulations like the OSHA rules to make life miserable so that only the most bitter and clingy of us will hang on.
Mark me in that category. It looks like I’m going to need another vehicle soon (the old shuttlecraft’s dilithium converter ain’t converting too good, these days), so while I’m at it, if I can swing it, I’m probably going to be getting a few extra useful tools, IYKWIM.
Preferably ones that are fairly panclimactic.
cheers
eon
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screaming_eagle Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:21:44pm |
re: #391 jcm
I meant OHIO’s constitution. The problem with the courts is that even in DC they now claim that any firearm that takes de-tachable mags could be modified and thus should be banned under the 10 round rule.
I’m opposed to any Fed bans, but because of the court issues is why I take a stronger stand on states rights.
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lifeofthemind Sat, Jan 31, 2009 4:28:53pm |
I am not a gun enthusiast but I do believe in the Constitution including the 2nd amendment. For those not in big cities it may be a work around to have yourselves Deputized by your sheriffs departments, Given that they are subject to local political control they have an incentive to aid law abiding citizens who wish to have access to firearms and once listed as LEOs you will of course be exempt from this control.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 5:00:58pm |
re: #394 lifeofthemind
I am not a gun enthusiast but I do believe in the Constitution including the 2nd amendment. For those not in big cities it may be a work around to have yourselves Deputized by your sheriffs departments, Given that they are subject to local political control they have an incentive to aid law abiding citizens who wish to have access to firearms and once listed as LEOs you will of course be exempt from this control.
The 2nd was included for one clear and over riding reason.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson
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grahamski Sat, Jan 31, 2009 5:05:13pm |
I have been looking to buy a new P&S camera…this one is in my top 2.
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jcm Sat, Jan 31, 2009 5:07:21pm |
re: #396 grahamski
I have been looking to buy a new P&S camera…this one is in my top 2.
Sorry I skipped the word camera…..
/ ;-P
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Shay4l Sat, Jan 31, 2009 5:21:02pm |
re: #363 huckfunn
I’m just west of Austin (married to a girl from Columbus, OH). Everyone down here drives pick-ups and SUVs. About 15 years ago some outfit from Massa2shits came down to Austin and bought an upscale apartment complex. The next day they put signs in the parking lot that said “NO PICKUP TRUCKS”. BWahahaha. That went over like a fart in church and lasted about as long.
That’s MassiveTwoShits if you’re a from a radius of ~200 miles outside the MA state border.
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huckfunn Sat, Jan 31, 2009 6:24:54pm |
re: #399 Shay4l
That’s MassiveTwoShits if you’re a from a radius of ~200 miles outside the MA state border.
Ah… thanks for enlightening me. Where are you from?
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avanti Sat, Jan 31, 2009 7:53:57pm |
re: #265 Wishing
Ok I just got here…Someone please tell me: did the republicans ok their pay increase? Or did they vote against?
No one has found much about the topic. It was apparently a increase in the the normal inflation adjustment to their office buget for staff and the rest. I can find no bill talking about the increase in the 1.5-4 million per member budget.
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avanti Sat, Jan 31, 2009 7:56:03pm |
re: #275 Wishing
Right, thank you jcm, but today’s vote isn’t listed.
It was first reported on Jan 12th.
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avanti Sat, Jan 31, 2009 7:59:21pm |
re: #300 Wishing
A congressional pay raise is FAR more important than saving the lives of those coal miners anyway.
The pay raise was automatic, about 4K a year, the other one is the office budget, also automatic, but seems bigger even though it’s on a increase on a few million..
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