Ever Wonder Where Time Comes From?
Here’s a great video from The Atlantic, starring Dr. Demetrios Matsakis, Chief Scientist for the U.S. Naval Observatory’s Time Services labs, taking us on a tour of a place where they know time better than anyone.
Here’s a great video from The Atlantic, starring Dr. Demetrios Matsakis, Chief Scientist for the U.S. Naval Observatory’s Time Services labs, taking us on a tour of a place where they know time better than anyone.
2 | Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:11:02pm |
David Ossman (Firesign Theater) - How Time Flys (1973) (Complete Album)
3 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:11:41pm |
My parents called me on my mobile last night - asked if my land line had been disconnected. I picked it up - no dial tone - told them I didn’t know what was going on but I’d check it. This morning, I go online, and sure enough, my account is up to date and autopay is keeping AT&T happy. When I get home from work I look at the phone, sitting lonely in the corner, and go to pick it up again, when I see that I’d unplugged it (about a month and a half ago because I was pissed at robo-callers) and forgotten I’d done that. The only other people who call me on the land line are my parents…so, begrudgingly, I’ve plugged the phone back in. Come on, telemarketers, ask me if my carpets are clean!
5 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:16:08pm |
re: #4 lawhawk
Time keeps on slipping [slipping] in to the future….
My favorite lines from that song:
Feed the children, who don’t have food to eat,
Shoe the people, with no shoes on their feet.
(I think that’s the order…writing from memory)
6 | RadicalModerate Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:17:42pm |
Attempting to not make a Morris Day reference.
Dammit. I failed, didn’t I?
7 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:19:46pm |
@darth I love the machine that goes Bing! http://t.co/BQbmuWfC8N— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 28, 2014
8 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:21:00pm |
I had to stop reading Max Blumenthal’s Tweets for my mental health.
9 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:22:22pm |
Making this Pilaf tonight (I’ve made it before, it’s FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!)…I highly suggest you try it.
Sweet-scented Pilaf: Masala Pulao
Lacto-vegetarian (vegan if you use oil); gluten-freePerfuming oils with whole spices has been classic to north Indian cuisine for thousands of years (no, I am not exaggerating). Western cultures call it blooming but we call it tadka. Whatever the nomenclature for this technique, the results play a pleasing game of how- much-can-you-eat-without-stopping with your palate. Give in and savor it as a side to any main dish, salad, soup, or even a starter.
Ingredients
1 cup white Indian or Pakistani basmati rice
2 tablespoons Ghee (homemade or store-purchased) or canola oil
1 teaspoon cumin seeds
1/2 teaspoon whole cloves
6 green or white cardamom pods
2 fresh or dried bay leaves
2 cinnamon sticks (each 3-inches long)
1 small red onion, cut in half lengthwise and thinly sliced
1 teaspoon coarse kosher or sea salt
Full recipe here: splendidtable.org
10 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:23:56pm |
Serious question: Does the gaping hole he’s getting from the continued reaming by Rachel Maddow make Christie’s ass look big or what?
11 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:24:14pm |
Okay, maybe that wasn’t all that serious after all.
12 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:30:22pm |
re: #8 Pie-onist Overlord
I had to stop reading Max Blumenthal’s Tweets for my mental health.
Absolutely. I think he’s just another dude of our time that has found out that hate sells. He’s making money off this.
I think he had some reasonable left wing commentary a few years back, but then he went nuts. You make more $ if you are nuts/inflammatory. Plenty of crazed people followed him = benefits all around.
I add him to my list of those to check up on in 20 years.
14 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:32:28pm |
re: #9 darthstar
Curry deviled eggs tonight.
I love the Splendid Table. Is it Lynn Neery? Her voice is velvet.
16 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:36:59pm |
re: #14 Stanley Sea
Curry deviled eggs tonight.
I love the Splendid Table. Is it Lynn Neery? Her voice is velvet.
Lynne Rossetto Kasper…we’ve got the cookbook by Raghavan Iyer with the rice recipe, but I couldn’t find it (we have a lot of cookbooks throughout the house), so I googled the recipe (like a fucking savage).
17 | freetoken Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:37:17pm |
Not sure where time comes from… but money, on the other hand…
Funding after evolution debate spurs ark project
The founder of a Bible-themed museum who recently debated evolution with TV’s “Science Guy” Bill Nye says fundraising after the widely watched event helped to revive stalled plans to build a 510-foot replica of Noah’s Ark.
Creation Museum founder Ken Ham said a municipal bond offering has raised enough money to begin construction on the wooden ark, estimated to cost about $73 million. Groundbreaking is planned for May and the ark is expected to be finished by the summer of 2016.
Ham said in a news release that the “high-profile debate helped encourage more of our ministry friends to get involved in the past few weeks.”
[…]
Ham’s ministry and the Creation Museum enjoyed an avalanche of news media attention during the Feb. 4 debate with Nye on evolution and the Bible, which was streamed live on the Web. Answers in Genesis said millions around the world watched the event, and it was followed by numerous national news reports and TV talk show discussions.[…]
“It was a challenging time, one that on a human level required a miracle to overcome,” he said in the release.
Ham has said the debate with Nye introduced to a wider audience his ministry’s views that the Bible’s creation story is a true historical account.
[…]
Bottom line is this: Nye’s ego is bigger than his ability to change creationists’ minds.
18 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:39:06pm |
Stanley - refresh - close, but wrong Lynn/Lynne
19 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:41:39pm |
Wow. Google’s transformation is now complete; they are apparently so blind to irony that they’ve rereleased Clippy pic.twitter.com/FOUveNhZEm— Jeremy Ruston (@Jermolene) February 27, 2014
20 | jaunte Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:43:32pm |
re: #19 darthstar
I think the changes to the navigation tools in Google maps has made it harder to use.
21 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:43:36pm |
Hey, klys, you around? I remember a few days back you mentioned a class project in assembler. I was curious what one they foist on students these days. Motorola or DEC ones were never too bad - with bad being defined by x86. ;) I liked VAX & 68k. Others? Not so much…
22 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:43:48pm |
Fuck it…I’m stoking the flames.
@Jermolene @sfjacob Clippy would kick Pegman's ass in a fight! Clippy didn't take shit from nobody and he had a template.@google @Microsoft— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 28, 2014
23 | darthstar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:44:29pm |
re: #20 jaunte
I think the changes to the navigation tools in Google maps has made it harder to use.
It’s now the WHERE THE FUCK AM I? app in my opinion. I can’t wait until they fuck my phone up with those updates.
24 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:45:40pm |
re: #19 darthstar
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Not quite. They haven’t bottomed out with their equivalent of BOB - an OS designed to make Clippy the most intellectual thing available.
25 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:46:08pm |
Our use of whistleblower submission system @SecureDrop discussed at #TrustyCon earlier today: http://t.co/c4tjMP6K4l http://t.co/lqRtqDa8Lf— The Intercept (@the_intercept) February 28, 2014
26 | dog philosopher Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:49:05pm |
re: #23 darthstar
It’s now the WHERE THE FUCK AM I? app in my opinion. I can’t wait until they fuck my phone up with those updates.
i refuse to be updated
if they force me i will have to unleash my cuneiform phone
27 | bratwurst Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:49:50pm |
re: #20 jaunte
I think the changes to the navigation tools in Google maps has made it harder to use.
Totally agree. I switched back to the old version for that very reason.
28 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:51:47pm |
re: #23 darthstar
It’s now the WHERE THE FUCK AM I? app in my opinion. I can’t wait until they fuck my phone up with those updates.
WAZE is the best map app.
29 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:53:32pm |
5° here. It hasn’t been this cold since New Year’s week, and I was in California then.
30 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 6:58:59pm |
re: #20 jaunte
I think the changes to the navigation tools in Google maps has made it harder to use.
DITTO. I hit the X to get that big blocking thing off my map and it kicks you out!
WTF. Still trying to figure it out.
Going on road trip through Florida, GA & SC. Ha, yes, Got my Obama beanie at the ready you fucks!
But have gone to the AAA site for success.
31 | klys Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:02:23pm |
re: #21 William Barnett-Lewis
Hey, klys, you around? I remember a few days back you mentioned a class project in assembler. I was curious what one they foist on students these days. Motorola or DEC ones were never too bad - with bad being defined by x86. ;) I liked VAX & 68k. Others? Not so much…
The assignment in question was this (link should work). You can browse to see what else we’ve done too.
I haven’t started the next one, but I have late days I can and will use since we’re going to be out of town this weekend.
32 | Mentis Fugit Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:03:05pm |
re: #7 darthstar
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You can’t accuse Microsoft of censoring their search results.
Good Guy Microsoft
33 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:04:36pm |
re: #28 Pie-onist Overlord
WAZE is the best map app.
Good for maps, but now that its popular I don’t know how to stop the 5K wazers reporting the accident.
Used to be just 3. I’m kinda frustrated with it.
35 | chadu Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:08:58pm |
re: #3 darthstar
Come on, telemarketers, ask me if my carpets are clean!
That’s gotta be a euphemism for something nasty.
36 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:15:27pm |
37 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:18:20pm |
Egg salad (curry. cumin, Cayenne, Dijon & mayo) on pita w/butter lettuce and tomato.
Swear this is a 15.00 restaurant item.
AHHHH
39 | Interesting Times Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:08pm |
40 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:09pm |
Report: Armed men take airport in Ukraine’s Crimea
Witnesses told the Interfax news agency that the 50 or so men were wearing the same gear as the ones who seized government buildings in the city, Simferopol, on Thursday and raised the Russian flag.
The report said the men with “Russian Navy ensigns” first surrounded the Simferopol Airport’s domestic flights terminal.
The report could not be immediately confirmed.
41 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:21:38pm |
re: #38 Stanley Sea
Need some wicked fries.
Don’t know about wicked, my favorite is 2 or 3 unpeeled spuds sliced, tossed in olive oil & rosemary then baked at 400 for an hour, tossing every 20 minutes.
42 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:22:28pm |
re: #41 William Barnett-Lewis
Don’t know about wicked, my favorite is 2 or 3 unpeeled spuds sliced, tossed in olive oil & rosemary then baked at 400 for an hour, tossing every 20 minutes.
oh yeah.
43 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:23:16pm |
re: #41 William Barnett-Lewis
Don’t know about wicked, my favorite is 2 or 3 unpeeled spuds sliced, tossed in olive oil & rosemary then baked at 400 for an hour, tossing every 20 minutes.
My favorite is sweet potatoes, split, and prepared as above.
44 | chadu Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:24:59pm |
O/T
Y’know, I don’t necessarily want Hillary Clinton to run for President.
I’d much rather see her on the Supreme Court.
Just an odd thought, tonight.
45 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:26:09pm |
re: #44 chadu
O/T
Y’know, I don’t necessarily want Hillary Clinton to run for President.
I’d much rather see her on the Supreme Court.
Just an odd thought, tonight.
I would much rather see Elizabeth Warren as POTUS than Hillary. Joe Biden, even.
46 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:27:22pm |
re: #43 Pie-onist Overlord
My favorite is sweet potatoes, split, and prepared as above.
Sweets work, but I’m just one of those northern boys so I like my irish potatoes better ;)
47 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:28:20pm |
re: #44 chadu
O/T
Y’know, I don’t necessarily want Hillary Clinton to run for President.
I’d much rather see her on the Supreme Court.
Just an odd thought, tonight.
I’ve never thought she’d be a good president. But can you imagine her & Barak _both_ ending up on the court?
48 | SteveMcGazi Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:28:35pm |
There is something I have a problem with in the opening seconds of the video. The speaker says that a second is the time it takes for nine billion… cycles of a Cesium atom. How is that counted in just a second? One, two, three, shoot start over. How do they really know the atom did whatever it was supposed to do exactly nine billion and whatever times?
49 | chadu Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:28:53pm |
re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord
I would much rather see Elizabeth Warren as POTUS than Hillary. Joe Biden, even.
I’d like to see a Warren/Biden ticket.
Seriously.
I think Unca Joe is a helluva VP.
Shirtless Biden Washes Trans Am In White House Driveway
theonion.com
50 | Pie-onist Overlord Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:30:33pm |
re: #49 chadu
I’d like to see a Warren/Biden ticket.
Seriously.
I think Unca Joe is a helluva VP.
>Shirtless Biden Washes Trans Am In White House Driveway
theonion.com
As Wonkette calls him, “Handsome Joe”
51 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:35:34pm |
re: #41 William Barnett-Lewis
Don’t know about wicked, my favorite is 2 or 3 unpeeled spuds sliced, tossed in olive oil & rosemary then baked at 400 for an hour, tossing every 20 minutes.
I mandoline sliced 3-4 small white potatoes tonight and then slow cooked them in a skillet with onions, garlic, rosemary, thyme, and a little butter. Plus a little dollop of bacon grease for flavor. ;)
52 | Stanley Sea Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:36:17pm |
re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis
I’ve never thought she’d be a good president. But can you imagine her & Barak _both_ ending up on the court?
OH YEAH.
53 | chadu Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:38:42pm |
re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis
I’ve never thought she’d be a good president. But can you imagine her & Barak _both_ ending up on the court?
Especially if the Hil gets to be Chief Justice.
She’s the former Secretary of State and the Chief Justice, he’s a Justice who doesn’t play by the rules — THEY FIGHT CRIME!
(Buck Rogers theme — sans opening voice over, start at 0.34 at link — starts playing*)
* No, I don’t know why, that’s just the music that started in my head when I wrote that lede.
54 | Dr. Matt Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:46:08pm |
Worst fucking analogy to justify the now vetoed Arizona bill.
55 | chadu Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:47:37pm |
56 | TedStriker Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:48:38pm |
re: #44 chadu
O/T
Y’know, I don’t necessarily want Hillary Clinton to run for President.
I’d much rather see her on the Supreme Court.
Just an odd thought, tonight.
re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis
I’ve never thought she’d be a good president. But can you imagine her & Barak _both_ ending up on the court?
re: #52 Stanley Sea
OH YEAH.
HRC would make a good SC justice, but that’s fraught with the same problems another presidential run for her has: she’ll be 67 this October. Hell, she may live and be completely fine for another 20 years, but there’s just as much of a chance that she may keel over in a year or two.
No slight intended against Hillary, but for a SC seat, I’d much rather see a younger jurist like Sonomayor get a nod (but even Sonomayor is not that much younger than Hillary).
57 | Ryan King Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:50:09pm |
re: #54 Dr. Matt
I’m going to sue Barry for being such an idiot it made my head hurt.
58 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:50:37pm |
UN leaps into action
Exclusive: U.N. nuclear agency opted against sensitive Iran report
The U.N. nuclear watchdog planned a major report on Iran that might have revealed more of its suspected atomic bomb research, but held off as Tehran’s relations with the outside world thawed, sources familiar with the matter said.
Such a report - to have been prepared last year - would almost certainly have angered Iran and complicated efforts to settle a decade-old dispute over its atomic aspirations, moves which accelerated after pragmatic President Hassan Rouhani took office in August.
According to the sources, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has apparently dropped the idea of a new report, at least for the time being.
59 | Lidane Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:55:31pm |
Taking their Pinochet fandom to its logical conclusion:
Libertarians plan to sit out the coming collapse of America…in Chile http://t.co/Ps8X55QPxY— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) February 28, 2014
60 | Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:58:42pm |
Here Private Babe Ruth of NY National Guard salutes General Pershing, War Dept DC, 90 years ago this spring: #LOC pic.twitter.com/ialpJNm2Je— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) February 28, 2014
61 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 7:59:03pm |
re: #59 Lidane
Taking their Pinochet fandom to its logical conclusion:
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Please proceed…
63 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:08:39pm |
The worlds largest underwater gypsum cave. Orda Cave, Russia pic.twitter.com/17BLZsT4z0— Beautiful World (@EARTH_PlCTURES) February 28, 2014
64 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:09:41pm |
Just asked my Libertarian Acquaintance what she thinks of State Nullification. This ought to be good.
65 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:12:30pm |
Also, can someone explain to me what is going on in regards to the Flag decision in California?
66 | dr. luba Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:16:41pm |
Bernard-Henri Levy:Here we have a country—Russia—where hunting for gays and for northern Caucasian facial features is becoming a national sport.
Here we have a country where, on April 20, Adolf Hitler’s birthday, “non-Slavs” are invited to stay home lest something terrible happen to them.
Here we have a country where, when a thousand young people take to the streets in 2006 to protest a bill before the Duma to ban Jewish groups suspected of having made a “pact with the devil,” they donned masks for fear of finding their faces on the Facebook page of a “white patrol” hit-man who would come and bust their head.
And here we find that that country, through the voice of its president, while berating Germany, France, and the United States, has the unbelievable nerve to declare that the Ukrainian revolution marks the return of fascism to Europe.
The whole thing would be laughable if so many women and men had not paid with their lives for the right of those who survive not to hear such obscenities—and if there were not, in the West, such a large number of feeble, credulous minds willing to tell themselves, “Hey, where there’s smoke there’s fire. After all, are these Ukrainians really so squeaky clean? Isn’t it possible that the West, with its tendency to romanticize the barricades, have been taken in by a revolution that isn’t what it seems?”And so on.
Come on, people!
Good article. “Ukraine’s Revolutionaries Are Not Fascists”
67 | kirkspencer Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:17:05pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
I’m sorry, but I have no trust of anonymous sources on pretty much anything anymore. That’s especially true when extraordinary claims are being made by these anonymous sources.
Supporting proof or it’s propaganda; the drums of war beating again.
68 | Belafon Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:21:05pm |
re: #65 The War TARDIS
I’m guessing this: Bill bans Confederate flag sale on California property.
Not sure why they’re trying. As much as I hate the Confederate flag, I see it here all the time in Texas, it’s a First Amendment issue.
69 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:28:00pm |
re: #68 Belafon
It was something to do with a school.
70 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:29:18pm |
re: #66 dr. luba
Really, nothing to say here, other than he has crafted the point to perfection.
71 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:35:51pm |
re: #54 Dr. Matt
Worst fucking analogy to justify the now vetoed Arizona bill.
This small business owner may think he has the right to refuse anyone based on his thoughts or feelings.
He is, of course, wrong. Public accommodations can’t discriminate based on race or religion due to the 64 Civil Rights Act and lots of other legislation that came along later. I don’t think a lot of Americans understand this distinction…that it actually is illegal to deny service based on race/religion, it’s not just a custom we developed because we learned in the 60’s that segregation is bad. It’s actually part of our law.
73 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:38:54pm |
re: #67 kirkspencer
I’m sorry, but I have no trust of anonymous sources on pretty much anything anymore. That’s especially true when extraordinary claims are being made by these anonymous sources.
Supporting proof or it’s propaganda; the drums of war beating again.
The 2011 report had enough damning information in it. Iran was working on triggers, detonators and megaton yield math for a bomb. I don’t think there’s much doubt they were working on a bomb. They may have stopped or slowed down for a while.
74 | The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:39:57pm |
Anybody else get the last week or so of LGF front page articles showing up in their RSS feed all at once?
75 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:42:40pm |
re: #73 Killgore Trout
The 2011 report had enough damning information in it. Iran was working on triggers, detonators and megaton yield math for a bomb. I don’t think there’s much doubt they were working on a bomb. They may have stopped or slowed down for a while.
Who in the mainstream West claims that Iran hasn’t worked on a nuclear weapon? This is pretty much common knowledge that they have. Which is why so many countries joined a deal with Iran to get them to stop.
76 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:43:19pm |
re: #67 kirkspencer
I’m sorry, but I have no trust of anonymous sources on pretty much anything anymore. That’s especially true when extraordinary claims are being made by these anonymous sources.
Supporting proof or it’s propaganda; the drums of war beating again.
Proof? We don’t need no stinking proof!
77 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:44:13pm |
re: #67 kirkspencer
I’m sorry, but I have no trust of anonymous sources on pretty much anything anymore. That’s especially true when extraordinary claims are being made by these anonymous sources.
Supporting proof or it’s propaganda; the drums of war beating again.
Hey, we haven’t had a new war in 10 years. Don’t you think it’s time to once again give war, especially nation-building war, another chance? It’s worked so well for us over the last half-century.
78 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:44:41pm |
re: #40 Killgore Trout
Sevastopol’s airport was also attacked today…
Ukrainian political analyst claims Russian military vehicles rammed the gates at Sevastopol airport. Paving the way? http://t.co/x5VgmjwrwC— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) February 28, 2014
79 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:47:04pm |
…and then they left.
Simferopol airport rep says armed men have left. They were worried about possible landings by #Ukraine paratroopers. http://t.co/m60v0fC38o— Andrew S. Weiss (@andrewsweiss) February 28, 2014
80 | Kragar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:48:14pm |
re: #78 NJDhockeyfan
Sevastopol’s airport was also attacked today…
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I expect the free world to stand up and bravely say “Heeeyyyy…” while doing absolutely nothing.
81 | Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:48:20pm |
baby corgi nap time. pic.twitter.com/2bxzjirMBS— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) February 28, 2014
82 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:48:36pm |
83 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:50:37pm |
re: #80 Kragar
I expect the free world to stand up and bravely say “Heeeyyyy…” while doing absolutely nothing.
We’ll do something but not too much and nothing too hard. We won’t do it for too long, just enough to say “hey, we did something”.
84 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:50:42pm |
re: #80 Kragar
I expect the free world to stand up and bravely say “Heeeyyyy…” while doing absolutely nothing.
The UN will provide the strongly worded letters.
85 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:53:01pm |
Meanwhile Yanuk got special escort treatment on the flight inside Russia.
Yanukovych reported to have landed at Rostov-na-Donu military airfield, escorted by RU fighter jets http://t.co/vaVBlt90RD— John Schindler (@20committee) February 28, 2014
86 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:55:02pm |
re: #80 Kragar
I expect the free world to stand up and bravely say “Heeeyyyy…” while doing absolutely nothing.
Russia, like China, is too big to fail. At over 10 times the size of Iraq and Afghanistan, they’re also too big to invade and nation build. Plus they have nukes. What exactly do you want us to do? We’re stretched a bit thin as it is.
87 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:55:30pm |
re: #85 NJDhockeyfan
Meanwhile Yanuk got special escort treatment on the flight inside Russia.
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He must be desperate for friends. He really fucked over Putin, I think he might be safer in a Ukrainian jail.
88 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:56:05pm |
re: #84 NJDhockeyfan
The UN will provide the strongly worded letters.
Maybe we should get rid of the UN. Cuz the world was such a safe and stable place beforehand, right?
89 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:56:26pm |
re: #86 palomino
Russia, like China, is too big to fail. At over 10 times the size of Iraq and Afghanistan, they’re also too big to invade and nation build. Plus they have nukes. What exactly do you want us to do? We’re stretched a bit thin as it is.
We could send Jimmy Carter.
90 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 8:58:29pm |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
We could send Jimmy Carter.
Did you recently suffer a traumatic brain injury?
91 | Kragar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:00:20pm |
re: #86 palomino
Russia, like China, is too big to fail. At over 10 times the size of Iraq and Afghanistan, they’re also too big to invade and nation build. Plus they have nukes. What exactly do you want us to do? We’re stretched a bit thin as it is.
Yeah, I can’t think of any reason why Europe or other nations around the world might show any concern. Its all on us.
92 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:01:10pm |
re: #88 palomino
Maybe we should get rid of the UN. Cuz the world was such a safe and stable place beforehand, right?
Why? They’ve done such a great job with Syria, Egypt, and Iran we should keep them around much longer. I know the Israelis just loves how fair they’ve been with Israel .
93 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:02:04pm |
re: #90 palomino
Did you recently suffer a traumatic brain injury?
Nah, just his usual attempt at trolling here.
94 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:02:12pm |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
We could send Jimmy Carter.
Isn’t he headed to Venezuela? He may be busy for a while.
95 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:04:25pm |
re: #94 NJDhockeyfan
Isn’t he headed to Venezuela? He may be busy for a while.
Oh. My. How witty.
{golf clap}
96 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:04:47pm |
BBC Newshour spoke with Khrushchev's great-granddaughter - she said he gave Ukraine the Crimea coz he wished he was Ukrainian.— David S. F. Portree (@dsfportree) February 28, 2014
97 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:05:43pm |
re: #91 Kragar
Yeah, I can’t think of any reason why Europe or other nations around the world might show any concern. Its all on us.
That’s my point. We’re all tapped out for now. Let someone else, maybe not on the opposite side of the globe, deal with the Ukraine.
I think the last 10 years have proven the folly of the idea that America has the ability to create its own reality in terms of foreign policy.
98 | klys Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:05:45pm |
re: #93 William Barnett-Lewis
Nah, just his usual attempt at trolling here.
At this point, it’s not worth it tonight. Or really any time it gets like this. I figure I have better things I can do with my time.
It’s a shame, because normally the comments/community are really great.
99 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:09:39pm |
re: #92 NJDhockeyfan
Why? They’ve done such a great job with Syria, Egypt, and Iran we should keep them around much longer. I know the Israelis just loves how fair they’ve been with Israel .
You actually think we’d be better off with no international organization like the UN?
Of course not everything they do will be great, they’re filled with people from all over the world who disagree. The purpose though makes sense: world powers staying in diplomatic contact, in the hopes we can avoid the next world war. And maybe do some humanitarian work along the way.
100 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:10:41pm |
re: #97 palomino
That’s my point. We’re all tapped out for now. Let someone else, maybe not on the opposite side of the globe, deal with the Ukraine.
I think the last 10 years have proven the folly of the idea that America has the ability to create its own reality in terms of foreign policy.
I think that’s the way it’s going to be for a while. I have a hard time imagining Obama engaging in any new military adventures, and the next president (regardless of party) might not be any more interested.
For better or worse we’re done being the world’s police for a while.
101 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:11:11pm |
re: #94 NJDhockeyfan
Isn’t he headed to Venezuela? He may be busy for a while.
So now Jimmy Carter is a communist who believes in totalitarian governments?
102 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:12:54pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
I think that’s the way it’s going to be for a while. I have a hard time imagining Obama engaging in any new military adventures, and the next president (regardless of party) might not be any more interested.
For better or worse we’re done being the world’s police for a while.
Good. We can’t afford it indefinitely. It’s just one of the many mistakes that has brought other superpowers low. Maybe we can try to avoid that in the future.
It’s a cute idea to think that America can run the entire world. But we can’t, so it’s better to face up to it. Doesn’t mean our mililtary goes into mothballs, just more judiciously used.
103 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:14:31pm |
re: #98 klys
At this point, it’s not worth it tonight. Or really any time it gets like this. I figure I have better things I can do with my time.
It’s a shame, because normally the comments/community are really great.
Yet another thread shit on and destroyed by KT. But he has “history” …
104 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:16:31pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Only until it’s the authoritarians you like.
105 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:16:51pm |
LOL!
Egyptian regime, Muslim Brotherhood accuse each other of being ‘Jewish http://t.co/dR7Ux7fkkn— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) February 28, 2014
106 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:18:51pm |
re: #101 palomino
So now Jimmy Carter is a communist who believes in totalitarian governments?
So Jimmy Carter is a commie because he’s trying to make a peace deal in Venezuela. Brilliant! How progressive!
Lol
107 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:18:55pm |
re: #102 palomino
Good. We can’t afford it indefinitely. It’s just one of the many mistakes that has brought other superpowers low. Maybe we can try to avoid that in the future.
Well, it might be good for us as we sit around safely buying gadgets eating unlimited cheap food and generally consuming. It may not be so good for those living under oppressive dictators or in a country ravaged by civil war. What’s “good” is a matter of perspective.
108 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:23:38pm |
re: #106 NJDhockeyfan
So Jimmy Carter is a commie because he’s trying to make a peace deal in Venezuela. Brilliant! How progressive!
Lol
So then Nixon, Ford and Reagan were all commies for negotiating with communist countries?
What are you even talking about? If Carter can mediate in any way that prevents a civil war, he should try. What about that do you object to?
110 | Petero1818 Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:27:20pm |
re: #107 Killgore Trout
Well, it might be good for us as we sit around safely buying gadgets eating unlimited cheap food and generally consuming. It may not be so good for those living under oppressive dictators or in a country ravaged by civil war. What’s “good” is a matter of perspective.
I am pretty confident that the US and Russia fighting a war over Ukraine would be pretty “bad” for everyone, especially the Ukranians. This is Russia’s sphere of influence, and Putin would never stand for any real intervention from Europe or America there. Its a non starter. We are talking about Russia not Iraq. About the most we can do is make sure Europe puts economic pressure, and of course we should boycott the paralympics.// So yes, ultimately there is no play here for America other than quiet support for the pro-Euro opposition.
111 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:27:34pm |
112 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:27:57pm |
re: #108 palomino
So then Nixon, Ford and Reagan were all commies for negotiating with communist countries?
What are you even talking about? If Carter can mediate in any way that prevents a civil war, he should try. What about that do you object to?
You suggested Carter was a communist for going to Venezuela so whatever floats your boat.
o_O
113 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:28:44pm |
re: #107 Killgore Trout
Well, it might be good for us as we sit around safely buying gadgets eating unlimited cheap food and generally consuming. It may not be so good for those living under oppressive dictators or in a country ravaged by civil war. What’s “good” is a matter of perspective.
I’m talking about “good” in the sense of not starting costly new nation building adventures that go on forever because there was never an end game to begin with.
It’s not the responsibility of the US military to stop all oppressive dictators or civil wars. More importantly, it CAN’T be our responsibility. We don’t have the resources or the will to continue the charade that we can run the world.
114 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:29:00pm |
re: #111 wheat-dogghazi
Let’s go back to talking about penis cakes …
Heh. I missed that discussion. I’m glad I did, I think.
115 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:29:23pm |
116 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:31:17pm |
re: #112 NJDhockeyfan
You suggested Carter was a communist for going to Venezuela so whatever floats your boat.
o_O
Wow, you really have no sense of sarcasm or irony whatsoever. The ? at the end of the sentence is a cue that I don’t actually believe what I’m saying.
117 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:32:03pm |
re: #110 Petero1818
I am pretty confident that the US and Russia fighting a war over Ukraine would be pretty “bad” for everyone, especially the Ukranians. This is Russia’s sphere of influence, and Putin would never stand for any real intervention from Europe or America there. Its a non starter. We are talking about Russia not Iraq. About the most we can do is make sure Europe puts economic pressure, and of course we should boycott the paralympics.// So yes, ultimately there is no play here for America other than quiet support for the pro-Euro opposition.
Agreed. If Russia really wants Ukraine bad enough they can just take it. I think it’s very unlikely the US or NATO would do much to stop it.
118 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:32:23pm |
re: #116 palomino
Wow, you really have no sense of sarcasm or irony whatsoever. The ? at the end of the sentence is a cue that I don’t actually believe what I’m saying.
Ok, if you say so.
119 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:33:31pm |
re: #109 NJDhockeyfan
It’s getting very weird in here.
What’s weird? People disagree with each other on comment boards a million times a minute. So what?
120 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:35:00pm |
re: #118 NJDhockeyfan
Ok, if you say so.
That’s how someone with no sense of irony, sarcasm or imagination would respond.
I notice you said nothing substantive about Carter or anything else. But that’s typical.
121 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:36:44pm |
re: #117 Killgore Trout
Agreed. If Russia really wants Ukraine bad enough they can just take it. I think it’s very unlikely the US or NATO would do much to stop it.
There would be a bunch of outrage from the West but nothing will come out of it. Would the EU and US put some sort of sanctions on Russia? Doubtful.
122 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:37:48pm |
re: #119 palomino
What’s weird? People disagree with each other on comment boards a million times a minute. So what?
You aren’t playing his game. Therefore it’s weird.
Nothing new. Move along…
123 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:38:41pm |
re: #114 NJDhockeyfan
Heh. I missed that discussion. I’m glad I did, I think.
It was amusing. Some RWNJ is appalled by Brewer’s veto, and predicts that bakeries will be forced to bake penis-shaped cakes for gay couples and photogs will be forced to shoot naked gay weddings. Lizards took it from there.
There are vagina cakes, too.
124 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:39:08pm |
re: #122 William Barnett-Lewis
You aren’t playing his game. Therefore it’s weird.
Nothing new. Move along…
I can’t even figure out his game. Maybe even he can’t.
Either way it’s even more boring than curling.
125 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:39:16pm |
re: #120 palomino
That’s how someone with no sense of irony, sarcasm or imagination would respond.
I notice you said nothing substantive about Carter or anything else. But that’s typical.
He’s headed to Venezuela. What do you want, a complete report?
126 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:40:27pm |
re: #121 NJDhockeyfan
There would be a bunch of outrage from the West but nothing will come out of it. Would the EU and US put some sort of sanctions on Russia? Doubtful.
Agreed. We couldn’t even maintain sanctions again Iran so Russia is out of the question. There’s money to be made.
127 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:40:27pm |
re: #124 palomino
I can’t even figure out his game. Maybe even he can’t.
Either way it’s even more boring than curling.
Could be worse: it’s not cricket.
(let’s see if they get that one… ;)
128 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:41:03pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
He’s headed to Venezuela. What do you want, a complete report?
Just an acknowledgment that if he can help prevent a civil war, and more bloodshed, then it’s not totally fucked up that he’s going.
129 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:41:10pm |
re: #123 wheat-dogghazi
It was amusing. Some RWNJ is appalled by Brewer’s veto, and predicts that bakeries will be forced to bake penis-shaped cakes for gay couples and photogs will be forced to shoot naked gay weddings. Lizards took it from there.
There are vagina cakes, too.
I’ve been to a few parties that had both plus boob cupcakes. Is there anything you can’t create with cakes and icing?
130 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:42:12pm |
re: #128 palomino
Just an acknowledgment that if he can help prevent a civil war, and more bloodshed, then it’s not totally fucked up that he’s going.
Who said its fucked up he’s going there?
131 | blueraven Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:42:25pm |
re: #107 Killgore Trout
we sit around safely buying gadgets eating unlimited cheap food and generally consuming.
That sounds like some OWS anti-consumerism sentiment.
133 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:43:13pm |
re: #123 wheat-dogghazi
It was amusing. Some RWNJ is appalled by Brewer’s veto, and predicts that bakeries will be forced to bake penis-shaped cakes for gay couples and photogs will be forced to shoot naked gay weddings. Lizards took it from there.
There are vagina cakes, too.
Which is a totally absurd hypothetical. I seriously doubt that a baker will run afoul of civil rights laws if he says, “I don’t feel comfortable making sexually explicit cakes.” And I’m just about positive that a photog can safely say, “I don’t want to take pornographic photos.”
134 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:43:52pm |
re: #132 NJDhockeyfan
Did someone spike the punch?
Depends. Is KT & you pissing in it the same as spiking it?
135 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:44:21pm |
re: #130 NJDhockeyfan
Who said its fucked up he’s going there?
I thought you did.
Now that I know you support his attempts at preventing bloodshed in Venezuela, I stand corrected.
136 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:46:32pm |
re: #133 palomino
Which is a totally absurd hypothetical. I seriously doubt that a baker will run afoul of civil rights laws if he says, “I don’t feel comfortable making sexually explicit cakes.” And I’m just about positive that a photog can safely say, “I don’t want to take pornographic photos.”
Well, sure. But in RWNJ logic, vetoing a law that would make it OK for a shopkeeper to refuse to serve LGBT customers is the same as forcing a shopkeeper to do anything the customers want.
137 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:47:10pm |
re: #135 palomino
I thought you did.
Now that I know you don’t object to his attempts at preventing bloodshed in Venezuela, I stand corrected.
You thought I did? Where? Are you high?
138 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:48:29pm |
We have some breaking news coming out of Ukraine…
MT @NoahPollak: Breaking: Vladimir Putin has parachuted onto the tarmac at Sevastopol airport pic.twitter.com/5b1ELFPdlN— Ron M. (@Jewtastic) February 28, 2014
139 | Lidane Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:49:25pm |
Heritage official advises GOP: If asked about Ukraine or Middle East, answer “repeal Obamacare” http://t.co/ETU9U5D9Pr— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 27, 2014
140 | blueraven Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:50:23pm |
re: #137 NJDhockeyfan
You thought I did? Where? Are you high?
We all know how much you admire Jimmy Carter.
141 | palomino Thu, Feb 27, 2014 9:59:00pm |
re: #137 NJDhockeyfan
You thought I did? Where? Are you high?
Yes, I am high. But tomorrow I won’t be.
You, on the other hand, will still be a moron.
142 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:05:59pm |
re: #131 blueraven
That sounds like some OWS anti-consumerism sentiment.
Sure is. Unfortunately the message of changing how we live doesn’t have the same mass appeal as populist rhetoric blaming wealthy elites and bankers.
143 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:07:52pm |
re: #141 palomino
Yes, I am high. But tomorrow I won’t be.
You, on the other hand, will still be a moron.
A personal attack, very nice.
144 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:11:03pm |
re: #140 blueraven
We all know how much you admire Jimmy Carter.
For someone who is very supportive of terrorists what’s not to like?
145 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:15:38pm |
Uh oh, this ain’t good.
Interfax: Ukraine says military airport at Sevastopol in Crimea seized by Russian servicemen— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) February 28, 2014
146 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:21:26pm |
Time for bed. Have a great night lizards! Thanks for the entertainment tonight :)
147 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:21:58pm |
re: #145 NJDhockeyfan
Oh, fucking great.
148 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:23:38pm |
re: #145 NJDhockeyfan
Uh oh, this ain’t good.
[Embedded content]
Reuters is just running an all caps headline with no text
UKRAINE: MILITARY AIRPORT AT SEVASTOPOL IN UKRAINE’S CRIMEA SEIZED BY RUSSIAN SERVICEMEN -INTERFAX
149 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:25:38pm |
It seems we have consensus here that the US and Nato won’t do much. What’s Putin’s move? Just take eastern Ukraine or does he go for the whole thing and maybe put Yanuk back in charge? I guess he can do whatever he wants.
150 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:31:15pm |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
Russia can try, but doing that would likely put it into yet another Afghanistan-esque situation.
Ukraine would likely be restive beyond measure, and because of the Tatars, every radical Muslim not involved with Afghanistan and Syria would cluster there.
151 | Lidane Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:31:41pm |
What realistic military options does the United States have here? We’re not going to fire on Russia and we’re certainly not going to put boots on the ground.
The best we can do is offer aid to Ukraine and encourage a quick, peaceful resolution. Anything involving actual military responses would be a terrible idea.
152 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:34:26pm |
re: #151 Lidane
What realistic military options does the United States have here? We’re not going to fire on Russia and we’re certainly not going to put boots on the ground.
The best we can do is offer aid to Ukraine and encourage a quick, peaceful resolution. Anything involving actual military responses would be a terrible idea.
I hope we haven’t transferred the promised bailout money yet. We might not get that back.
153 | freetoken Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:37:43pm |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
It seems we have consensus here that the US and Nato won’t do much. What’s Putin’s move? Just take eastern Ukraine or does he go for the whole thing and maybe put Yanuk back in charge? I guess he can do whatever he wants.
There is little we ought to do, in my opinion.
This is really not our fight. I don’t know why people want to make it so.
154 | Lidane Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:40:06pm |
re: #153 freetoken
This is really not our fight. I don’t know why people want to make it so.
Because World Cop and Pax Americana, don’tcha know.’
We can’t do much because in the end, it’s really not our fight. We can offer to help Ukraine financially, but we can’t intervene more than that. Ukraine has to fight for their own future.
155 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:43:34pm |
No worries, It’s just The People’s Militia greeting passengers with smiles
A Reuters eyewitness at the scene said the men, dressed in full battle gear and carrying assault rifles and machine guns, were moving freely in an out of the control tower.
A man, who said he was a volunteer helping the group, said: “I’m with the People’s Militia of Crimea. We’re simple people, volunteers … We’re here at the airport to maintain order. We’ll meet the planes with a nice smile - the airport is working as normal.”
156 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:45:20pm |
re: #155 Killgore Trout
Ukraine needs to speed up the aliyah of Tatars from Uzbekistan and Russia back to Crimea.
157 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:46:38pm |
So what’s with the airport takeovers? Looking for places to land troop transports?
158 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:49:28pm |
re: #156 The War TARDIS
Ukraine needs to speed up the aliyah of Tatars from Uzbekistan and Russia back to Crimea.
I’m pretty sure Ukraine can’t do shit right now. New government hasn’t consolidated power and the military just flipped last week form supporting Yanuk to the opposition. I don’t think there’s enough cohesion to put up a fight against the Russians. Even under normal circumstances they get crushed.
159 | jonhendry Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:52:13pm |
re: #17 freetoken
“Bottom line is this: Nye’s ego is bigger than his ability to change creationists’ minds.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t much reality to that report about money coming in for the ark project. It might be an attempt to create an appearance of momentum, in order to pull in additional money.
160 | jonhendry Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:53:12pm |
161 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:54:26pm |
We’ve gotta try to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over!
162 | The War TARDIS Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:55:31pm |
re: #158 Killgore Trout
No, I don’t mean militarily, I mean demographically.
The Crimean Peninsula is likely only just majority Russian. It has been 13 years since the last census in the Ukraine showed the Russian Population there had fallen from 67.1% in 1989, to 57.3% that year.
The Russian Population there is falling at 6% a year, with the Tatar population rising at 9% a year. The Russians are likely now only the barest of majorities there.
I am saying Ukraine needs to pull in more Tatars wanting to go home. Accelerate the trend even farther.
163 | jonhendry Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:01:10pm |
re: #57 Ryan King
I’m going to sue Barry for being such an idiot it made my head hurt.
That wasn’t Barry Petchesky, it was all “ilyai”
164 | jonhendry Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:24:32pm |
Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden, on the BBC promoting a new airship company, in which he is an investor.
All of which will be welcome news to one of the project’s high-profile investors, Bruce Dickinson.
He is one of those people who can’t stop achieving stuff.
As if being the lead singer of one of the world’s most successful and enduring rock bands, Iron Maiden, was not enough, he is also an airline pilot, businessman, and is investing in this project.
“The airship has always been with us, it’s just been waiting for the technology to catch up”
“It’s a game changer, in terms of things we can have in the air and things we can do,” he says.
“The airship has always been with us, it’s just been waiting for the technology to catch up.”
He wants to sell them and he’ll be very good at it. As we chat in the hangar, he goes through its credentials.
It is 70% greener than a cargo plane, he says. It doesn’t need a runway, just two crew. And it can plonk 50 tonnes anywhere in the world you like, which is 50 times more than a helicopter.
165 | Lidane Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:36:44pm |
Hahaha awesome:
Tea Party Group: Stockman Might Have The 'Laziest' Campaign Ever http://t.co/FTL0nc0D7b— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 27, 2014
166 | Kragar Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:40:05pm |
167 | dr. luba Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:49:13pm |
re: #153 freetoken
There is little we ought to do, in my opinion.
This is really not our fight. I don’t know why people want to make it so.
Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances
168 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Thu, Feb 27, 2014 11:57:04pm |
169 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:02:05am |
re: #164 jonhendry
Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden, on the BBC promoting a new airship company, in which he is an investor.
They tried to get an airship company off the ground in Germany, Government subsidzed. It went down in flames, so to speak. (Zeppelyindra?). They had even built an enormous hangar for it, which has since been reconverted into an enormous tropical indoor recreation park.
170 | jonhendry Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:13:31am |
re: #166 Kragar
I love the video on YouTube of Bruce singing “Locomotive Breath” with Ian Anderson, at a cathedral. When he gets to the bit “Has got him by the balls”, he doesn’t sing the word “balls”, he mimes a juggling motion. Presumably because he’s in a church.
171 | Kragar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:20:08am |
re: #170 jonhendry
I love the video on YouTube of Bruce singing “Locomotive Breath” with Ian Anderson, at a cathedral. When he gets to the bit “Has got him by the balls”, he doesn’t sing the word “balls”, he mimes a juggling motion. Presumably because he’s in a church.
Seen them in concert twice.
172 | Single-handed sailor Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:41:34am |
Oh no, Fox News says , “Intel committee chairman poised to recall ex-CIA chief Morell over Benghazi testimony, weighing same for Petraeus”. What could this mean??!!!
//
173 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:59:18am |
re: #172 Single-handed sailor
Oh no, Fox News says , “Intel committee chairman poised to recall ex-CIA chief Morell over Benghazi testimony, weighing same for Petraeus”. What could this mean??!!!
//
I saw that horse’s eyelash twitch, get out the bludgeon again!
174 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 1:37:46am |
re: #166 Kragar
Why he hasn’t been knighted yet is a mystery.
Indeed. It’s one of the great mysteries of our time.
175 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 1:40:50am |
Breaking: Mt. Gox has filed for bankruptcy protection, a company lawyer says. http://t.co/tYCeEMbSEk— Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) February 28, 2014
177 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:08:27am |
Karpeles in Tokyo says MtGox is bankrupt. 750,000 customer bitcoins stolen & 120,000 company bitcoins stolen. None left #mtgox #mtgoxprotest— Kolin Burges (@The_K_meister) February 28, 2014
Mt Gox Ceo Karpeles Blames System Weakness For Loss Of Bitcoins
— cigolo (@cigolo) February 28, 2014
178 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:12:43am |
re: #177 Lidane
Mt Gox Ceo Karpeles Blames System Weakness For Loss Of Bitcoins
I blame mental weakness for the very existence of bitcoins…
179 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:16:26am |
re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I blame mental weakness for the very existence of bitcoins…
I think it’s precious that the libertarian CEO of a Bitcoin exchange is blaming internal weaknesses in the system for their bankruptcy. That’s hilarious.
180 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:30:55am |
re: #179 Lidane
I think it’s precious that the libertarian CEO of a Bitcoin exchange is blaming internal weaknesses in the system for their bankruptcy. That’s hilarious.
“You fucked up! You trusted us!”
181 | Rev_Arthur_Belling Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:43:50am |
re: #180 Targetpractice
The CEO of a bitcoin exchange that began as a Magic the Gathering card exchange.
That’s exactly like how the NYSE got its start!
182 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:47:06am |
Every currency is based on belief and trust to a certain extent. But the bitcoin was born of a combination of belief, ideology and outright gullibility: the notion that an annonymous, unanswerable entity will maintain the value and integrity of a currency.
183 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:52:38am |
re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Every currency is based on belief and trust to a certain extent. But the bitcoin was born of a combination of belief, ideology and outright gullibility: the notion that an annonymous, unanswerable entity will maintain the value and integrity of a currency.
Bitcoin’s appeal is its potential, that’s what is really driving the price of it. The idea that an “anonymous” form of currency, uncontrolled by major governments, can be traded openly across international lines and be divorced from the sorts of dangers that currencies like the dollar or yuan are. Thing is, as we’re now learning with Mt.Gox, most of that “potential” is being built upon a very rickety foundation.
If nothing else, the whole deal is giving dudebros and wingnuts alike a hard lesson in why we have the Federal Reserve in the first place.
184 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 2:55:51am |
re: #181 Rev_Arthur_Belling
The CEO of a bitcoin exchange that began as a Magic the Gathering card exchange.
That’s exactly like how the NYSE got its start!
With Mt Gox gone, where will magic gather?— danprimack (@danprimack) February 28, 2014
185 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:03:26am |
According to WSJ, the current value of the numbers of bitcoins “stolen” from Mt.Gox’s servers amounts to roughly $473 million. Ouch.
186 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:06:22am |
re: #185 Targetpractice
According to WSJ, the current value of the numbers of bitcoins “stolen” from Mt.Gox’s servers amounts to roughly >$473 million. Ouch.
And without any regulation or oversight, that money is gone. Investors will never see it again and as far as I know, they don’t have any recourse to get it back. Oops.
187 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:06:35am |
Seth Meyers hosted everyone's new favorite game show, 'Fake or Florida?' http://t.co/JJzSE6Soas— HuffPostComedy (@HuffPostComedy) February 28, 2014
188 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:09:27am |
re: #186 Lidane
And without any regulation or oversight, that money is gone. Investors will never see it again and as far as I know, they don’t have any recourse to get it back. Oops.
Yep, we’re not talking a bank whose stolen assets have some form of insurance or protection and so account holders will be reimbursed. As far as the system’s concerned, that money is gone and the people who owned those bitcoins are SOL.
189 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:13:03am |
re: #186 Lidane
And without any regulation or oversight, that money is gone. Investors will never see it again and as far as I know, they don’t have any recourse to get it back. Oops.
Where did the “full faith and credit” of who or what originate with bitcoins anyway?
Some dudebro’s “word”?
I just substitute “snake oil salesman” for “dudebro” It was never backed by anything substantive or any govt anyway. You pay with real money to purchase these amorphous funds (just as you do any other commodity) and you just wait around to get rich?
Bwahahahaha!
190 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:16:53am |
re: #189 Justanotherhuman
Where did the “full faith and credit” of who or what originate with bitcoins anyway?
Some dudebro’s “word”?
I just substitute “snake oil salesman” for “dudebro” It was never backed by anything substantive or any govt anyway. You pay with real money to purchase these amorphous funds (just as you do any other commodity) and you just wait around to get rich?
Bwahahahaha!
This ETrade parody from a few years back really sums up how the folks who just lost their asses in bitcoins must feel right now:
191 | jonhendry Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:18:50am |
re: #189 Justanotherhuman
“Where did the “full faith and credit” of who or what originate with bitcoins anyway?”
Cryptographic algorithms, man.
192 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:21:35am |
Well, here’s a bit of good news about those fleeing kleptocrats from Ukraine.
Austria freezes assets of 18 Ukrainians citing possible human rights violations - foreign ministry via @Reuters— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) February 28, 2014
Meanwhile, rumors of Russians’ involvement in Crimea here
Maxim Eristavi @MaximEristavi 27m
Russian military took over Crimea air traffic control - @blackseanews blackseanews.net
and here
Numerous military trucks without markings without plates moving around #Sevastopol. #Ukraine #maidan #euromaidan pic.twitter.com/jiEqAc2WiH— Alan Cullison (@AlanCullison) February 28, 2014
193 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:21:59am |
“I’ll put thousands of dollars into a fictional currency whose only protection from counterfeiting is algorithms that surely never can be cracked and exchanges/banks whose framework is built out of sponge cake and Elmer’s glue. Surely no hacker will want to steal millions of dollars or print out counterfeit coins!”
194 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:34:53am |
Another thing to keep in mind is that, prior to Mt.Gox’s filing for bankruptcy, news about it losing bitcoins to theft was treated as rumor, with most folks just assuming that it was another bout of technical issues that have plagued the site up til now. But losing $473 million due to theft and keeping it hushed up right until the day you show up in bankruptcy court? Yeah, that has the chance to undermine the entire currency.
195 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:38:31am |
re: #194 Targetpractice
Another thing to keep in mind is that, prior to Mt.Gox’s filing for bankruptcy, news about it losing bitcoins to theft was treated as rumor, with most folks just assuming that it was another bout of technical issues that have plagued the site up til now. But losing $473 million due to theft and keeping it hushed up right until the day you show up in bankruptcy court? Yeah, that has the chance to undermine the entire currency.
To me, it’s tantamount to taking your life savings and asking your ex-con BIL to keep it under his mattress since you don’t trust putting it in US savings bonds because you don’t like “banks”.
196 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:39:17am |
re: #183 Targetpractice
If nothing else, the whole deal is giving dudebros and wingnuts alike a hard lesson in why we have the Federal Reserve in the first place.
I just lost my ass due to the fake virtual currency I invested all my savings into getting stolen. There should be a way for me to get my money back!
Why won’t the government step in to protect Bitcoin investors?
197 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:44:58am |
Russia's parliament to consider laws giving Ukrainians fast-track citizenship and allowing Crimea to secede in a vote http://t.co/MIyA7wtb1L— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 28, 2014
Yet, yet…
MP Gennadiy #Moskal: There was no quorum in #Crimea's parliament yesterday, 47 out of 100 deputies. Vote on autonomy referendum was illegal— Myroslava Petsa (@myroslavapetsa) February 28, 2014
198 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:47:07am |
re: #196 Lidane
I think the idea was to rip people off in the first place. Call me cynical, but I just don’t see how this was ever supposed to succeed in being an alternative to the monetary system we have that’s recognized the world over. Someone cooked this up to steal from gullible dipshits who think they’re in a cool club.
200 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:52:35am |
re: #183 Targetpractice
Bitcoin’s appeal is its potential, that’s what is really driving the price of it. The idea that an “anonymous” form of currency, uncontrolled by major governments, can be traded openly across international lines and be divorced from the sorts of dangers that currencies like the dollar or yuan are. Thing is, as we’re now learning with Mt.Gox, most of that “potential” is being built upon a very rickety foundation.
If nothing else, the whole deal is giving dudebros and wingnuts alike a hard lesson in why we have the Federal Reserve in the first place.
It’s also making them look not like geniuses, but like total idiotic fools.
201 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:56:39am |
re: #127 William Barnett-Lewis
Could be worse: it’s not cricket.
(let’s see if they get that one… ;)
I see no one has responded yet, so I will offer this:
Cricket is merely a way to fill time in between many cups of tea.
202 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 3:58:33am |
re: #197 Justanotherhuman
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I don’t think Russia’s gonna concern itself with whether a quorum existed or not. It’s going to annex the Crimea and then dare the international community to do something about it. It’s like South Ossetia all over again: “Yeah, so we stole it, what are you gonna do about it?”
203 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:02:05am |
re: #202 Targetpractice
I don’t think Russia’s gonna concern itself with whether a quorum existed or not. It’s going to annex the Crimea and then dare the international community to do something about it. It’s like South Ossetia all over again: “Yeah, so we stole it, what are you gonna do about it?”
Yes. Of course. The Russian Bear back on its hind legs where Crimea is concerned. Bullying the Ukraine—again. Making Crimea an autonomous region was genius on the part of Russia when the SU broke up; it preserved the Black Sea ports for exactly something like this.
204 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:02:44am |
re: #200 Justanotherhuman
libertarians don’t ever seem to plan anything beyond the “we don’t need anything from anyone, so let’s build a tree fort and only let us in”. Yeah, no government, no financial regulation, no regulation of anything, let the “market” decide, blah, blah. Because history shows us that works SO well.
I also get kinda weirded out by the notion of “The Market” being some living entity with feelings and thoughts. Um. No.
205 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:10:02am |
re: #204 A Mom Anon
I also get kinda weirded out by the notion of “The Market” being some living entity with feelings and thoughts. Um. No.
That concept is the ideolgical linchpin between libertarians and other supply-side conservatives…to them the Market is an ideology unto itself, not simply a mechanism for balancing supply and demand and directing capital to where it benefits the most.
They also refuse to recognize the fact that the market requires an infrastucture: a physical as well as a regulatory/legislative one, in order to function. And we cannot entrust care and maintenance of that infrastructure to the hands of those who are active participate in the market. That is what elected governments are for.
206 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:11:52am |
re: #204 A Mom Anon
libertarians don’t ever seem to plan anything beyond the “we don’t need anything from anyone, so let’s build a tree fort and only let us in”. Yeah, no government, no financial regulation, no regulation of anything, let the “market” decide, blah, blah. Because history shows us that works SO well.
I also get kinda weirded out by the notion of “The Market” being some living entity with feelings and thoughts. Um. No.
Yeah, that “invisible hand” BS. Creepy. : )
Adam Smith actually was naive enough to think the “market place” would self-regulate. After all, his “here and now” was coming out of an age of royal rule, serfdom, and mercantilism was flourishing. If he thought that markets would automatically channel “self-interest toward socially desirable ends”, he had no idea of how capitalism itself would change over time, nor how much blood, sweat and tears of ordinary people, and the sacrifice of their health and bodies, would contribute to that “wealth” the seekers of capital were after.
207 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:17:01am |
Adam Smith was coming out against Mercantilism, in which governments were active particpants in the market, distorting its function by restricting trade and granting monoplies.
That is different than advocating laissez-faire, in which the government has no role whatsoever in the market.
208 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:19:30am |
I’d love for the dudebros to go ahead and build their Galt’s Gulch. If they’re going to be independent, how are they gonna build it? And let’s say they do? Who’s gonna fix the toilets if they clog, or the roof if it leaks? I could be wrong, but most of these people are strictly white collar, they wouldn’t have the first clue.
And I would laugh and laugh….
209 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:22:40am |
re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
I didn’t say that Smith advocated either mercantilism or laissez-faire. I said that mercantilism existed at that time.
I’m not saying that Smith wasn’t a decent thinker, either; he was brilliant for his time. But it’s 250+ yrs later and the world has changed tremendously, as has the concept of capitalism itself. And the world will continue to change.
210 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:23:50am |
re: #208 A Mom Anon
I’d love for the dudebros to go ahead and build their Galt’s Gulch. If they’re going to be independent, how are they gonna build it? And let’s say they do? Who’s gonna fix the toilets if they clog, or the roof if it leaks? I could be wrong, but most of these people are strictly white collar, they wouldn’t have the first clue.
And I would laugh and laugh….
But they’d have all the money! They could use their slaves for all the dirty work.
211 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:24:04am |
re: #208 A Mom Anon
I’d love for the dudebros to go ahead and build their Galt’s Gulch. If they’re going to be independent, how are they gonna build it? And let’s say they do? Who’s gonna fix the toilets if they clog, or the roof if it leaks? I could be wrong, but most of these people are strictly white collar, they wouldn’t have the first clue.
And I would laugh and laugh….
Wasn’t Glenn Beck telling folks about a year back that he had this whole idea for a libertarian utopia, but was just waiting on the funding? And we heard about those communes out in BFE that would refuse to abide by federal laws?
212 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:31:40am |
re: #209 Justanotherhuman
Laissez-faire is often attributed to Adam Smith, but that came much later, he advocated an active role for government in assuring that markets work to the benefit of all, not just the producers and sellers.
213 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:38:17am |
What a way to end the week, and just in time for the next winter storm!
Fire In Underground Vault Causes Outage, Restricts Downtown Streets
COLUMBUS, Ohio - A fire in an underground vault belonging to American Electric Power caused a number of manhole covers to be blown open early Friday morning in the area of the Renaissance and Chase buildings in downtown Columbus.
Columbus police officers responded to the downtown area after receiving reports of two explosions in the downtown area at about 1 a.m. Friday.
According to AEP Ohio officials, the fire in the underground vault in the area of the Renaissance and Chase buildings caused an outage to several buildings in the downtown area. The fire was quickly extinguished and no one was injured.
214 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:43:35am |
re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Laissez-faire is often attributed to Adam Smith, but that came much later, he advocated an active role for government in assuring that markets work to the benefit of all, not just the producers and sellers.
This might interest you.
Is the “Invisible Hand” Still Relevant?
Stephen LeRoy
“The single most important proposition in economic theory, first stated by Adam Smith, is that competitive markets do a good job allocating resources. Vilfredo Pareto’s later formulation was more precise than Smith’s, and also highlighted the dependence of Smith’s proposition on assumptions that may not be satisfied in the real world. The financial crisis has spurred a debate about the proper balance between markets and government and prompted some scholars to question whether the conditions assumed by Smith and Pareto are accurate for modern economies. “
215 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:49:00am |
Yanuk’s presser imminent.
I know Yanukovych has plenty of enemies, but we're having ANOTHER bag/body search at entrance to the conference hall pic.twitter.com/eD275oDhA6— Laura Mills (@lauraphylmills) February 28, 2014
216 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:50:17am |
Poonami: South London flooded with sewer water after water main break.
A major road was closed by the emergency services after homes were flooded as a result of a burst main.
A series of pictures and video were posted on Twitter showing the murky deluge down Clapham Road in Kennington, south London.
There were reports that residents were being evacuated from their homes after being trapped by the filthy water although Thames Water dismissed reports that it was sewage.
217 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:55:30am |
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.”
The goal of Christianity is global conquest, just like Islam. But we use prayer and persuasion, they use the point of a sword.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 28, 2014
218 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 4:59:48am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.”
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That might be the most absurd thing he’s said so far.
Not bloody? Not the point of a “sword”?
219 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:01:25am |
Bryan insults Jan Brewer with a racist analogy. What a peach.
Jan Brewer's legacy: when it came time to stand for liberty, she folded like a cheap Bedouin tent in a stiff desert breeze.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 28, 2014
220 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:05:36am |
re: #3 darthstar
My parents called me on my mobile last night - asked if my land line had been disconnected. I picked it up - no dial tone - told them I didn’t know what was going on but I’d check it. This morning, I go online, and sure enough, my account is up to date and autopay is keeping AT&T happy. When I get home from work I look at the phone, sitting lonely in the corner, and go to pick it up again, when I see that I’d unplugged it (about a month and a half ago because I was pissed at robo-callers) and forgotten I’d done that. The only other people who call me on the land line are my parents…so, begrudgingly, I’ve plugged the phone back in. Come on, telemarketers, ask me if my carpets are clean!
we gave-up our land line in favor of an addition cell ($9.99/mo on our plan) for exactly those reasons.
Hasn’t been a problem at all.
221 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:05:52am |
What did I say?
.@YuliaTymoshenko will run for President during May elections - @Vitaliy_Klychko presser at Ukraine's parl— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) February 28, 2014
222 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:06:21am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.”
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an admission?
223 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:07:18am |
Not. Good. At. All.
Concentration of #Russian military forces in #Sevastopol: 400 airborne troops arrived this morning - espreso.tv | PR #News #Ukraine— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
224 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:07:48am |
re: #204 A Mom Anon
libertarians don’t ever seem to plan anything beyond the “we don’t need anything from anyone, so let’s build a tree fort and only let us in”. Yeah, no government, no financial regulation, no regulation of anything, let the “market” decide, blah, blah. Because history shows us that works SO well.
I also get kinda weirded out by the notion of “The Market” being some living entity with feelings and thoughts. Um. No.
Are these the same people who tout “I, Pencil” as their mantra?
225 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:07:53am |
re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord
Bryan insults Jan Brewer with a racist analogy. What a peach.
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“Stand for liberty”? I’m pretty sure that’s what segregationists thought they were “standing” for as well, Bryan.
227 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:10:14am |
re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
What a way to end the week, and just in time for the next winter storm!
Fire In Underground Vault Causes Outage, Restricts Downtown Streets
Wow. And here I sit in Columbus, but I have not heard this yet…and I get the news from someone in Kentucky. Only on the innnertubes.
Of course, you have the ‘electrical connection’ thing going on!
: )
228 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:10:27am |
re: #223 Justanotherhuman
Not. Good. At. All.
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All we’re waiting for at this point is Kremlin announcing that they will support the Crimean “secession” and the troops they’re moving in are simply there to “keep the peace” and ensure not “insurgents” attempt to undermine the “will of the people.”
229 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:10:56am |
230 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:11:10am |
231 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:12:16am |
Poor Obi-Wan pic.twitter.com/JTSWyuCIsa— Darth Vader (@DepressedDarth) February 28, 2014
232 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:13:53am |
233 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:14:00am |
Yanuk presser, but I can’t understand a thing.
234 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:14:06am |
re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That concept is the ideolgical linchpin between libertarians and other supply-side conservatives…to them the Market is an ideology unto itself, not simply a mechanism for balancing supply and demand and directing capital to where it benefits the most.
They also refuse to recognize the fact that the market requires an infrastucture: a physical as well as a regulatory/legislative one, in order to function. And we cannot entrust care and maintenance of that infrastructure to the hands of those who are active participate in the market. That is what elected governments are for.
Full disclosure. I hold some Bitcoin, but not ever at Mt. Gox. It was a disaster waiting to happen, and I could see that three months ago. The reason Mt. Gox is bankrupt is not because of the Bitcoin system, but the sloppy ways Mt. Gox implemented their exchange, including using custom-written code that was not fully vetted. The CEO may have been the author of the code. They also apparently did not keep enough currency in reserve, or those reserves were unavailable somehow, so that they had to restrict withdrawals just to stay afloat — for a while. As soon as Mt Gox announced that withdrawals were restricted and then shut off, it was just a matter of time before it collapsed.
For sure, it’s a wake-up call to the naive dudebros, who believed in the magic of computer code to protect their pet project. Libertarians in general have no sense of how ruthless and greedy some human beings are — very John Galtish, IMO — and those kind of people took advantage of Mt. Gox’s myriad weaknesses.
Now, the Bitcoin community is looking at the other exchanges more closely, to verify those exchanges are being run more responsibly than Mt Gox.
235 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:15:18am |
236 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:16:10am |
Really? You could have fooled me—guess they were masquerading as middle aged people?
This is a coup of fascist mob of youngsters - #Yanukovych pic.twitter.com/utlWzfWf2a— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) February 28, 2014
237 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:16:50am |
re: #234 wheat-dogghazi
Everything I’ve heard is that is not actually possible to transfer any substantial amount of bitcoins to actual money.
238 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:17:59am |
re: #237 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
How ya’ doin’ Obdi?
240 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:19:07am |
Hahahaha…
Yanukovych demands early elections in December, to unblock and clear the streets all around Ukraine pic.twitter.com/JYCy9UFDGc— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) February 28, 2014
Yanuk is really playing the victim…
241 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:19:12am |
re: #238 FemNaziBitch
How ya’ doin’ Obdi?
Frequency and intensity of migraines has reduced but they’re still there, still have a bad funky mood a lot of the time, sleeping like 2X what I normally do.
So better but still highly imperfect.
242 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:20:27am |
re: #241 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
Frequency and intensity of migraines has reduced but they’re still there, still have a bad funky mood a lot of the time, sleeping like 2X what I normally do.
So better but still highly imperfect.
(((((((Obdi))))))))
243 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:20:37am |
re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
This was on the news down here in Atlanta. They referred to Columbus as “a small town in Ohio”. The state Capitol? Lordy.
244 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:20:50am |
Sounds like Yanuk is more interested in doing stand-up…
#Yanukovych: victims are the consequences of the political crisis, the result of irresponsible policy of the West.— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2014
245 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:21:29am |
re: #240 Justanotherhuman
Only Yanukovich can save Ukraine from Russian threat? Is that his gambit?
246 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:22:03am |
247 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:22:09am |
re: #240 Justanotherhuman
Hahahaha…
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Yanuk is really playing the victim…
Yes, early election in December, but he wants to returned to power immediately because we can be sure that he won’t try to use his thugs again to stamp out any dissent and ensure his “reelection.”
248 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:24:32am |
re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Only Yanukovich can save Ukraine from Russian threat? Is that his gambit?
Not if he’s broadcasting from Russia…
This is amazing. Yanukovych appears to be broadcasting from a parallel universe— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 28, 2014
249 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:26:18am |
re: #237 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
Everything I’ve heard is that is not actually possible to transfer any substantial amount of bitcoins to actual money.
Depends on how much $ you’re talking about. On a well run exchange like Bitstamp or a payment processor like Coinbase, you can sell bitcoins for fiat currency (aka dollars, euros, etc.) and have the proceeds deposited in your bank account within a few days. Some exchanges will also arrange for bank wires or Western Union. But really large amounts, say over $10,000, will attract the attention of the feds, and some banks will flat out refuse large deposits. Then you’re up a creek with no paddle — Bitcoin rich and cash poor.
250 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:26:40am |
Look who turned up at entrance to Balaclava bay. Balaclava now. pic.twitter.com/ynDxZoJHjW— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) February 28, 2014
251 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:26:46am |
What about Teh Muslims Bryan? Are they your allies in TEH GREAT WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY?
The battle over special rights for sexually deviant behavior is THE battle of our time. There is no other.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 28, 2014
252 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:27:34am |
Teehee! Sorry you robbed the country blind? I didn’t think so.
#Yanukovych: Sorry I didn't manage to maintain stability and prevent chaos in #Ukraine— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2014
253 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:28:22am |
re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord
What about Teh Muslims Bryan? Are they your allies in TEH GREAT WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY?
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“Special rights”? Bryan, you’ve already lost this battle, there is no right that straight people can possess that they can deny to gay people without putting themselves in violation of the 14th amendment. And before you say that marriage isn’t a right, I advise you to reread Loving.
254 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:29:37am |
re: #243 A Mom Anon
This was on the news down here in Atlanta. They referred to Columbus as “a small town in Ohio”. The state Capitol? Lordy.
America’s biggest small town…only 15th in population. A lot of people do not even realize Columbus is larger than Cleveland and Cincinnati now as far as actual city size/population.
And as I commented on here before…the metro area is gaining too. I think we are 32nd largest metro area now. Back in the 70s, even through the early 80s it was called a cowtown. Well, that is what happens when the city is in the middle of great farming lands. Now the metro area takes 5 counties and it is all new…1970 on. Many of the other metro areas have been around forever.
255 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:29:42am |
re: #253 Targetpractice
“Special rights”? Bryan, you’ve already lost this battle, there is no right that straight people can possess that they can deny to gay people without putting themselves in violation of the 14th amendment. And before you say that marriage isn’t a right, I advise you to reread Loving.
Remember this is the same guy who believes that 1st Amendment rights do not apply to non-Christians.
256 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:30:08am |
Bryan wants to be President of Gilead.
257 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:30:57am |
More bullshit from Yanuk:
Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM 2m
#Yanukovych: When arrived in Kharkiv, state security service started to receive info that radical groups are arriving in Kharkiv.
Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM 3m
#Yanukovych: I wanted to meet activists of party of regions and civic organizations at forum that was supposed to be held in kharkiv
Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM 3m
#Yanukovych: I didn’t run from Kyiv, I moved to Kharkiv. During move I was shot at with automatic weapons. My car took fire from all sides.
258 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:32:01am |
UKRAINE SAYS RUSSIAN MARINES RING COAST GUARD BASE
SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine’s State Border Guard Service says about 30 Russian marines had taken positions outside its Coast Guard base in the Sevastopol.
The agency on Friday quoted the marines from the 810th brigade of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet as saying they were there to prevent any weapons at the base from being seized by extremists.
In Moscow, the Defense Ministry had no comment.
259 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:32:34am |
ask about his house ask about his house ask about his house ask about his house ask about his house ask about his house ask about his house— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) February 28, 2014
261 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:33:20am |
re: #259 Justanotherhuman
a legacy to be left to the Ukrainian people like Versailles or Sans Souci
262 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:34:15am |
re: #258 NJDhockeyfan
You mean the weapons that Russians are moving in with alarming speed? Yeah, I’m sure that the military buildup is purely there to ensure that “extremists” don’t break in.
263 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:34:37am |
re: #249 wheat-dogghazi
Depends on how much $ you’re talking about. On a well run exchange like Bitstamp or a payment processor like Coinbase, you can sell bitcoins for fiat currency (aka dollars, euros, etc.) and have the proceeds deposited in your bank account within a few days. Some exchanges will also arrange for bank wires or Western Union. But really large amounts, say over $10,000, will attract the attention of the feds, and some banks will flat out refuse large deposits. Then you’re up a creek with no paddle — Bitcoin rich and cash poor.
I’ve heard that amounts over, say, $1,000 aren’t really possible on those exchanges, and specifically that Coinbase reaches its ‘maximum number of buys’ (not even sells, but buys) within a few hours every day.
It’s hard to understand if the well-rune exchanges were actually providing fast and good bitcoin-to-fiat transfers, how Mtgox existed at all, much less was one of the largest exchanges.
264 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:37:54am |
Bitcoiners are already turning on themselves. This is Mark Karpeles, CEO of Mt Gox, making a statement on Japanese TV. The translation is snark.
265 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:38:30am |
re: #262 Targetpractice
You mean the weapons that Russians are moving in with alarming speed? Yeah, I’m sure that the military buildup is purely there to ensure that “extremists” don’t break in.
Nothing strange going on. Look, they are smiling!
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266 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:39:06am |
re: #264 wheat-dogghazi
Bitcoiners are already turning on themselves. This is Mark Karpeles, CEO of Mt Gox, making a statement on Japanese TV. The translation is snark.
He looks like the epitome of a douche.
267 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:41:07am |
re: #266 Pie-onist Overlord
He looks like the epitome of a douche.
There is trash talk on the Bitcoin subreddit that Karpeles has an overinflated sense of his prowess as a coder.
268 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:41:11am |
re: #265 NJDhockeyfan
Nothing strange going on. Look, they are smiling!
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I imagine folks in Georgia right now are watching this all unfold and going “This seems awfully familiar…”
269 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:41:47am |
270 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:43:19am |
So, what seems so not unusual for the rest of the world …
How would American’s react if our Military were to surround certain airports?
271 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:43:26am |
re: #267 wheat-dogghazi
There is trash talk on the Bitcoin subreddit that Karpeles has an overinflated sense of his prowess as a coder.
Because he didn’t want to pay some Chinese or Indian programmer $10/hr? In bitcoins?
272 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:43:54am |
Update Russian helicopters fly over Crimea - Ukraine border guards http://t.co/VsF8caYC77— worldfinmarketupdate (@worldfinmarket) February 28, 2014
273 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:44:45am |
re: #254 ObserverArt
I went to school in Gahanna, at that time the area was considered “the country” once you got off Hamilton Rd and went away from the city. We lived out toward Blacklick. I haven’t been back up there in 15 yrs, I bet it’s changed a bunch.
I still can’t get over the idiots here not realizing Columbus is Ohio’s capitol.
274 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:46:45am |
re: #270 FemNaziBitch
So, what seems so not unusual for the rest of the world …
How would American’s react if our Military were to surround certain airports?
More like how would Americans react if the Mexican military surrounded airports along the border states?
275 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:49:44am |
A live feed of the press conference with english translations.
276 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:50:50am |
re: #271 Pie-onist Overlord
Because he didn’t want to pay some Chinese or Indian programmer $10/hr? In bitcoins?
I have no idea. He did call attention several days to a transaction flaw in the Bitcoin code, which may or may have allowed hackers to steal undetected from Mt. Gox over the course of months. At first, Bitcoiners scoffed, but in fact he was correct. But, Mt. Gox was run in a very sloppy way, apparently with no concept of basic accounting and fiduciary responsibility. It seems they co-mingled customer accounts with company accounts, a big no-no, resulting in losses from all accounts.
Mt. Gox has filed for bankruptcy protection, which Japanese law provides, so that they can try to recover their losses and regroup. It’s impossible to say whether all those customers will ever get their coin back, though.
277 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:51:18am |
Putin headed for Crimea to supervise intervention personally. pic.twitter.com/Q2THrpNRdF— Pawel Morski (@Pawelmorski) February 28, 2014
278 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:54:45am |
re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord
that bare chest is bullet-proof!
279 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:57:54am |
Today in 1922, the Supreme Court defended the 19th Amendment to the Constitution, thereby unanimously affirming women’s right to vote!
280 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:58:05am |
re: #73 Killgore Trout
The 2011 report had enough damning information in it. Iran was working on triggers, detonators and megaton yield math for a bomb. I don’t think there’s much doubt they were working on a bomb. They may have stopped or slowed down for a while.
And there’s no way to force Iran to get rid of the knowledge its accumulated on those topics. Preventing the building of an assembly point for nukes might be possible with good intell and keeping Iran from having enough highly-enriched uranium or plutonium to build a nuke is likely doable. But their research on detonators and triggers? We’re not going to be able to get rid of that.
That might have one bright spot, though: If Iran does actually build a nuke, then a properly designed trigger and detonator will at least mean the nuke won’t be set off by accident and can’t be set off by some lone nut.
281 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:59:10am |
re: #189 Justanotherhuman
Where did the “full faith and credit” of who or what originate with bitcoins anyway?
Some dudebro’s “word”?
I just substitute “snake oil salesman” for “dudebro” It was never backed by anything substantive or any govt anyway. You pay with real money to purchase these amorphous funds (just as you do any other commodity) and you just wait around to get rich?
Bwahahahaha!
Shoulda put their money into commemorative coin replicas from the Franklin Mint.
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282 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 5:59:30am |
Feb 27, 1897:
Britain recognizes U.S. authority over Western Hemisphere
283 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:00:04am |
re: #194 Targetpractice
Another thing to keep in mind is that, prior to Mt.Gox’s filing for bankruptcy, news about it losing bitcoins to theft was treated as rumor, with most folks just assuming that it was another bout of technical issues that have plagued the site up til now. But losing $473 million due to theft and keeping it hushed up right until the day you show up in bankruptcy court? Yeah, that has the chance to undermine the entire currency.
Thanks, Obama!
284 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:02:03am |
re: #183 Targetpractice
If nothing else, the whole deal is giving dudebros and wingnuts alike a hard lesson in why we have the Federal Reserve in the first place.
Unpossible! Galt knows that the Fed is teh Ebil!
286 | Political Atheist Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:04:07am |
re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord
Jumped the shark, did he?
287 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:04:42am |
re: #254 ObserverArt
Look what we have coming:
Winter storm watch Sat ngt-Mon. Precip type/amnts not certain, but high confidence for winter wx impacts. pic.twitter.com/3ooeea4nkv
— NWS Wilmington OH (@NWSILN) February 28, 2014
288 | Flounder Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:04:54am |
If you haven’t already, watch the video, absolutely effing fascinating. I didn’t know measured time was different the farther away you are from sea level. Thank you Charles!
289 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:05:37am |
re: #204 A Mom Anon
I also get kinda weirded out by the notion of “The Market” being some living entity with feelings and thoughts. Um. No.
THE MARKET WOULD LIKE TO CARESS YOU WITH ITS INVISIBLE HAND, BABY!
…
Hurm. The similarities between the sociopathic/homophobic RWNJ Skydad and the Market are… intriguing.
290 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:06:11am |
re: #273 A Mom Anon
I went to school in Gahanna, at that time the area was considered “the country” once you got off Hamilton Rd and went away from the city. We lived out toward Blacklick. I haven’t been back up there in 15 yrs, I bet it’s changed a bunch.
I still can’t get over the idiots here not realizing Columbus is Ohio’s capitol.
I remember we had discussed you living in the central Ohio area. 15 years has brought a lot of changes. You would not recognize the area at all.
I know the Blacklick area very well. I used to work on Reynoldsburg-New Albany road, just down from Blacklick. If you remember, there was a company called Hub Plastics in Blacklick. They were a client of mine for a long time.
291 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:06:33am |
292 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:07:15am |
re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That concept is the ideolgical linchpin between libertarians and other supply-side conservatives…to them the Market is an ideology unto itself, not simply a mechanism for balancing supply and demand and directing capital to where it benefits the most.
There is no god but the Market, and Adam Smith is its prophet.
293 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:07:36am |
re: #291 FemNaziBitch
Reuters: U.S. Corporate Profits So High Because Wages So Low
The real reason why the GOP does not want to raise the minimum wage.
294 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:09:04am |
re: #206 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, that “invisible hand” BS. Creepy. : )
Adam Smith actually was naive enough to think the “market place” would self-regulate. After all, his “here and now” was coming out of an age of royal rule, serfdom, and mercantilism was flourishing. If he thought that markets would automatically channel “self-interest toward socially desirable ends”, he had no idea of how capitalism itself would change over time, nor how much blood, sweat and tears of ordinary people, and the sacrifice of their health and bodies, would contribute to that “wealth” the seekers of capital were after.
Actually, that being said, Adam Smith wasn’t a complete asshole, and assumed that people with capital would use some of it for the public good, because they weren’t complete assholes either.
Ha, ha! Stoopid economist!
295 | Eventual Carrion Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:10:08am |
re: #188 Targetpractice
Yep, we’re not talking a bank whose stolen assets have some form of insurance or protection and so account holders will be reimbursed. As far as the system’s concerned, that money is gone and the people who owned those bitcoins are SOL.
NO FDIC FOR YOU!
296 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:10:56am |
Yanukovich is so full of shit. He’s blamed the protesters for the violence and says he’s all about peace. I hope nobody is buying any of it.
297 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:11:27am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
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That’s the Ivanovets. She’s a Tarantul-III- class corvette.
She mounts 4 SS-N-22 ‘Sunburn’ anti-ship missiles, 12 SA-16 ‘Igla’ (‘Little Guy’) SAMs, a 76mm cannon, and two AK-630 30mm Gatling guns. The Sunburn is seriously bad mojo.
298 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:13:58am |
re: #208 A Mom Anon
I’d love for the dudebros to go ahead and build their Galt’s Gulch. If they’re going to be independent, how are they gonna build it? And let’s say they do? Who’s gonna fix the toilets if they clog, or the roof if it leaks? I could be wrong, but most of these people are strictly white collar, they wouldn’t have the first clue.
And I would laugh and laugh….
Hank Rearden can probably fix a toilet, being a genius engineer/science guy/railroad baron/second banana.
While reading AS, I started thinking about Galt’s Gulch, and figured Rearden would probably fix his own toilet (self-interest), Galt’s toilet (hero worship), and Taggart’s toilet (wants to get laid), and would probably not fix anyone else’s unless they paid a vasty amount of money to overcome his natural inclination to work on his own interests/projects.
So, Galt’s Gulch will have a bunch of smart, starving, filthy people building maglev trains in the wrecks of homes/workshops.
If I’m reading AS right, that is.
299 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:14:50am |
re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth
Look what we have coming:
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Yeah…saw that.
Again, local weather and weather.com all have different forecasts and it sounds like Columbus is on a line as to how bad it is going to be.
Oh crap…Al on The Today Show right now as I type and is showing Columbus getting anywhere from 12 to 20” Sunday through Monday.
Damn…I hope they are wrong. The last 10” snow was bad enough.
And ice! Uggh. Hopefully all the tree limb cutting that has gone on in my neighborhood by AEP and its contractors the last few weeks will help keep the power on. Gonna go out and get some Kerosene just in case.
300 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:15:17am |
re: #210 Justanotherhuman
But they’d have all the money! They could use their slaves for all the dirty work.
I also don’t recall what AS’s take on purely financial operators (hedge fund managers and such) — are they welcome in Galt’s Gulch?
I mean, they don’t actually produce anything physical.
301 | kirkspencer Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:16:18am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
The goal of Christianity is global conquest, just like Islam. But we use prayer and persuasion, they use the point of a sword.
And it is this which tells me all I really need to know about Bryan Fisher. Because the goal of Christianity as espoused by Jesus and all the writers of the New Testament is NOT WORLD CONQUEST.re: #206 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, that “invisible hand” BS. Creepy. : )
Adam Smith actually was naive enough to think the “market place” would self-regulate. After all, his “here and now” was coming out of an age of royal rule, serfdom, and mercantilism was flourishing. If he thought that markets would automatically channel “self-interest toward socially desirable ends”, he had no idea of how capitalism itself would change over time, nor how much blood, sweat and tears of ordinary people, and the sacrifice of their health and bodies, would contribute to that “wealth” the seekers of capital were after.
This suggests to me that you, like a lot of people who talk about Adam Smith, haven’t read Adam Smith.
That invisible hand? It’s mentioned once and it’s a throwaway line. He spoke much more often of the need to regulate what we call big business so as to keep things equitable.
The largest chunk of the Wealth of Nations is defending need and desirability of morality and ethics in business practices.
302 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:16:46am |
re: #294 chadu
Actually, that being said, Adam Smith wasn’t a complete asshole, and assumed that people with capital would use some of it for the public good, because they weren’t complete assholes either.
Ha, ha! Stoopid economist!
Smith was willing to have a honest government step in and write fair rules for cases where self-regulation was impossible. And he believed that government would always be needed to prevent cases of actual fraud.
303 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:17:12am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.
“The goal of Christianity is global conquest, just like Islam. “
I think your Bible is broken, Bry.
304 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:19:35am |
Greets and saluts from the frigid NYC metro area. Media’s already ginning up the storm warnings for a storm on Monday, where the models are predicting anything from 1 to 12+ inches across the NYC metro area. My own take on the models predicts a healthy 6+ for NYC proper, 8-12 in Bergen/Passaic, and 12+ going into Rockland/Orange, lesser amounts down the Shore and Long Island.
But that’s not what has me going this morning. It’s the stupidity on Twitter this morning.
Someone tweeted that the militia-types who have taken control of the Crimean airport/facilities have Soviet/Russian ties.
@chrislhayes Many of the pro-Russia protesters in Crimea have Soviet or Russian army connections. pic.twitter.com/d75mYtBe2N— Cyndl (@cmtwx) February 28, 2014
Ummm, nearly everyone military-related in the former Soviet Union republics would have ties to the Soviet military, and many would also have ties to the Russian military. That doesn’t exactly create a distinguishing factor.
Yanukovych ran to Russia and Putin. That’s not surprising. Russia has definite interests in seeing Ukraine remain in its sphere of influence. That’s been one of Russia’s guiding principles for centuries. It wants to retain a say in those countries on its borders. The Crimea is particularly important to Russian interests, including on the Black Sea. The war games are meant to show the pro-Western Ukrainians that Russia needs to be dealt with/addressed, and Putin isn’t above sending in special forces to muck things up and give him a reason to go and try to claim that he’s seizing territory to protect ethnic Russians living there (ethnic Russians were resettled all across the former Soviet Republics as a way to assert control from Moscow).
But there isn’t much that the US or the EU or anyone else can or should do militarily. The US isn’t about to send a carrier battle group into the Black Sea - and the Ukrainian government has already set up a caretaker government and elections are scheduled.
If the Crimea or ethnic Russian-majority areas in the East consider breaking away, they’re going to find themselves isolated internationally, with Russia being their sole pipeline (literal and figurative). That too has to be considered - the Russians have oil considerations in play, and that too has a way to temper things - both with the EU considering what an oil price spike might do, and the Russians if the EU considers blocking further oil shipments to hurt the Russian economy that is in worse shape than they’re willing to let on.
305 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:19:49am |
re: #298 chadu
Hank Rearden can probably fix a toilet, being a genius engineer/science guy/railroad baron/second banana.
While reading AS, I started thinking about Galt’s Gulch, and figured Rearden would probably fix his own toilet (self-interest), Galt’s toilet (hero worship), and Taggart’s toilet (wants to get laid), and would probably not fix anyone else’s unless they paid a vasty amount of money to overcome his natural inclination to work on his own interests/projects.
So, Galt’s Gulch will have a bunch of smart, starving, filthy people building maglev trains in the wrecks of homes/workshops.
If I’m reading AS right, that is.
306 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:20:32am |
re: #301 kirkspencer
And it is this which tells me all I really need to know about Bryan Fisher. Because the goal of Christianity as espoused by Jesus and all the writers of the New Testament is NOT WORLD CONQUEST.
The Dominionist interpretation of the NT is everyone in the whole fuckin’ world has to be Christian so that jesus will come on back, battle and defeat Satan, and take everyone up to paradise. That’s the Great Commission that drives the evangelicals to such a frenzy to convert everyone.
307 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:20:59am |
re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord
What about Teh Muslims Bryan? Are they your allies in TEH GREAT WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY?
The battle over special rights for sexually deviant behavior is THE battle of our time. There is no other.
(to the tune of “Interjections!”, Schoolhouse Rock)
IT’S PRO-JECT-TION!
308 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:22:04am |
re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord
Bryan wants to be President of Gilead.
Part of me wants to reread The Handmaid’s Tale, and part of me thinks doing so would want me to drink three fingers of Drano.
309 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:24:01am |
re: #301 kirkspencer
The largest chunk of the Wealth of Nations is defending need and desirability of morality and ethics in business practices.
Which points back to the book he considered more important: The Theory of Moral Sentiments. It forms the backbone on his economic thought.
310 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:24:43am |
re: #308 chadu
Part of me wants to reread The Handmaid’s Tale, and part of me thinks doing so would want me to drink three fingers of Drano.
I tried reading that book years ago but I couldn’t finish it.
311 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:25:13am |
re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord
I tried reading that book years ago but I couldn’t finish it.
I never started it.
Sounded too horrible.
313 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:27:07am |
1420 GMT: In conclusion, Yanukovych speaks directly to those who have taken over Kiev. “Come back to your senses and stop this lawlessness. You will be held accountable for this. The end is obvious… Go away, don’t let this lawlessness continue, the people of Ukraine will suffer.“I would like to address the people of Ukraine. First, I would like to apologize to you, to all people who suffer and continue to suffer. Second, I will do everything I can for the rest of my life to be with the people of Ukraine. Not with those thugs, with nationalists, with bureaucrats. No, I will be with the people of Ukraine who are so dear to me. If I were there right now, I would meet with every family, regardless of which side of the barricades they were on.
“These people don’t care about Ukraine. But truth will prevail. Truth will always prevail. Thank you.”
And with that, he left the table.
He’s the only one who can save Ukraine! Lol. The people in Ukraine watching that on TV must be laughing their asses off.
Did any of the reporters ask him about his houses and where all the missing money is?
314 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:27:36am |
re: #308 chadu
Part of me wants to reread The Handmaid’s Tale, and part of me thinks doing so would want me to drink three fingers of Drano.
Just remember that even in that dystopia there was the Mayday resistance.
315 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:28:30am |
re: #301 kirkspencer
[Adam Smith] spoke much more often of the need to regulate what we call big business so as to keep things equitable.
The largest chunk of the Wealth of Nations is defending need and desirability of morality and ethics in business practices.
QFT.
316 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:29:52am |
The occasion many will have heard of is the Crimean War of 1853-1856, known in Britain for the Siege of Sevastopol, the Charge of the Light Brigade, and the medical advances made by Florence Nightingale and Mary Seacole.
Was this the factual fauxpaus Sarah Palin made at one point?
317 | Eventual Carrion Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:30:35am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.”
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Doctor Tiller would like to disagree. But he can’t because your ‘prayers’ put a big fucking hole in his body.
318 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:33:36am |
re: #309 William Barnett-Lewis
Which points back to the book he considered more important: The Theory of Moral Sentiments. It forms the backbone on his economic thought.
the Free Market has no room for Moral Sentiments, it’s kill or be killed…
319 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:33:45am |
320 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:36:51am |
re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord
I tried reading that book years ago but I couldn’t finish it.
P.J. O’Rourke of all people wrote a good summary of WON and ToMS, worth looking into and easy to follow, And makes the key points that get overlooked whenever the Spirit of Adam Smith is invoked
321 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:39:19am |
Seriously messed up Canadian doctor has been sentenced for sexually assaulting 21 women under anesthesia: http://t.co/S6VWa2e7rv— This Is Personal (@ThisIsPrsnl) February 28, 2014
322 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:39:54am |
re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
P.J. O’Rourke of all People wrote a good summary of WON and ToMSm, worth looking into and easy to follow, And makes the key points that get overllookk whenever the Spriti of Adam Smith is invoked
Yes, I enjoyed it and even understood P.J.’s version.
323 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:40:07am |
Heh. Must have been some cash he had stashed under his mattress.
#Yanukovych on Mezhygirja: the house was old, I renovated it, was offered to purchase it, I paid it with my own money. |PR News— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
324 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:40:31am |
re: #311 FemNaziBitch
I never started it.
Sounded too horrible.
It’s a good book. When I was a teacher, I used it as alternate reading for my Xian students who objected to Othello on religious grounds. As their parents didn’t know the book, I was able to slip it in…and their reactions to it were priceless.
325 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:41:14am |
re: #288 Flounder
If you haven’t already, watch the video, absolutely effing fascinating. I didn’t know measured time was different the farther away you are from sea level. Thank you Charles!
Yep, relativity. The passage of time, as far as we humans understand the concept, varies in speed based on your proximity to a gravity well. It is for this reason that non-trivial space travel becomes really, really interesting — because people far out in space, especially those traveling at very high speeds, wind up with VERY different clocks than those stuck back on Terra.
This is one of the reasons why I love Gunbuster (a.k.a. Top wo Narae! / Aim for the Top!) so much. Aside from just being a great little OVA series in its own right, it takes the time to deal with relativistic effects. The protagonist spends most of her time in space and a good chunk of it traveling at extreme speeds, and each time she gets back to Earth for a bit she gets to see everyone she knew several years, sometimes even decades older.
326 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:41:58am |
re: #324 darthstar
It’s a good book. When I was a teacher, I used it as alternate reading for my Xian students who objected to Othello on religious grounds. As their parents didn’t know the book, I was able to slip it in…and their reactions to it were priceless.
What possible objection could anyone have to Othello on “religious” grounds?
327 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:42:21am |
re: #306 wheat-dogghazi
The Dominionist interpretation of the NT is everyone in the whole fuckin’ world has to be Christian so that jesus will come on back, battle and defeat Satan, and take everyone up to paradise. That’s the Great Commission that drives the evangelicals to such a frenzy to convert everyone.
If everyone’s Christian, and reasonably devout, who’s on Stan’s side?
Unless this is promulgating the idea that a decent bunch of “everyone’s Christian” includes hypocrites and apostates?
M’kaaaaaaay…
328 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:42:29am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
You also use legislation to oppress people, Bryan. That’s what you call your “winnable war.”
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329 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:42:32am |
re: #314 William Barnett-Lewis
Just remember that even in that dystopia there was the Mayday resistance.
In that Alternate Universe the Soviet Union does not collapse, as I remember it. Under such circumstances, the repression and theocracy of Gilead would be a ripe target for KGB subversion. May Day is of course the Socialist Labor Day, a fact surely not lost upon Margaret Atwood.
Or am I in error?
330 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:42:48am |
Journalist asked about zoo in Mezhygyria? #Yanukovych says that property there does not belong to #Ukrainians |PR News— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
331 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:43:20am |
re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord
I tried reading that book years ago but I couldn’t finish it.
SPOILER ALERT: Rosebud was a dude, and sank.
332 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:43:38am |
Clay Aiken (yes, the former American Idol runner-up) is running for Congress in North Carolina.
The performer, a Democrat, turned in his paperwork at the State Board of Elections to seek the 2nd District seat currently held by Republican Renee Ellmers. Aiken, who lives in the Raleigh-Durham area, announced his bid three weeks ago and must first try to win the Democratic primary in less than 10 weeks.
The 2nd District, which covers all or parts of nine counties west and southwest of his native Raleigh, is considered Republican-leaning. But Aiken said the district’s voters want to choose the candidate who believes “we’re not going to have success just based on one party or the other — that we all have to work together.”
“They are enthusiastic about seeing change,” he added later.
Aiken, who finished second to Ruben Studdard in TV’s 2003 “Idol” competition, became a back-home sensation a decade ago, with supporters called “Claymates” a common sight at his concerts.
On Thursday, the 35-year-old Aiken surrounded himself with family and former teachers while speaking to reporters. While shunning the politician label, Aiken said he’s been interested in politics for a long time. He recalled how in the early 1990s he interviewed U.S. Sen. Terry Sanford for a project and invited U.S. Rep. David Price to his Raleigh school. Price is still in Congress.
- See more at: northjersey.com
333 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:44:40am |
re: #312 FemNaziBitch
MISREAD/MISHEARD IN MY BRAINMEATS AS:
“How Do You Solve a Problem Like Crimea?”
334 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:45:40am |
re: #314 William Barnett-Lewis
Just remember that even in that dystopia there was the Mayday resistance.
I did not remember that, which is odd, given the overarcing frame story.
Weird.
335 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:46:23am |
Remember that “Million Truckers Drive” where about 3 trucks showed up? They want a do-over.
Operation American Spring!! Be there to take our country back!! #tcot #RedNationRising #UniteBlue #nerdland pic.twitter.com/Nmt8KfNrLp— YoungConservative (@steve0423) February 26, 2014
336 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:46:42am |
re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
P.J. O’Rourke of all People wrote a good summary of WON and ToMSm, worth looking into and easy to follow, And makes the key points that get overllookk whenever the Spriti of Adam Smith is invoked
Essay or book?
337 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:47:00am |
re: #285 FemNaziBitch
A President Hillary Clinton following Obama would no doubt result in seriously one of the biggest collective hysteria fits from the right. The reaction alone is worth getting her in the White House. Please,Please,Please,Please,Please,Please,oh please win…..
338 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:47:08am |
I guess this time they will show up in colonial cosplay, with THERE MUSKETS.
339 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:47:34am |
re: #324 darthstar
It’s a good book. When I was a teacher, I used it as alternate reading for my Xian students who objected to Othello on religious grounds. As their parents didn’t know the book, I was able to slip it in…and their reactions to it were priceless.
340 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:48:22am |
re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord
What possible objection could anyone have to Othello on “religious” grounds?
Blah people marrying wah people?
341 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:48:26am |
re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord
What possible objection could anyone have to Othello on “religious” grounds?
“Religious objection” was a common fundie excuse to get out of reading - most teachers would let them pick their own book (meaning movie) to report on.
342 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:48:58am |
re: #335 Pie-onist Overlord
Remember that “Million Truckers Drive” where about 3 trucks showed up? They want a do-over.
These people must not be productive members of society because they sure have a lot of free time to attend their bitchfests protests
343 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:49:13am |
Poof! The GOP's disappearing promise to vote to replace Obamacare http://t.co/tCfrjZhf2a— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 28, 2014
344 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:49:26am |
re: #341 darthstar
“Religious objection” was a common fundie excuse to get out of reading - most teachers would let them pick their own book (meaning movie) to report on.
What.
I could’ve used that excuse to get out of…
Nevermind.
345 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:49:57am |
re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord
What possible objection could anyone have to Othello on “religious” grounds?
Moor = islam = evil is the usual route I hear.
346 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:50:10am |
re: #342 Dr. Matt
These people must not be productive members of society because they sure have a lot of free time to attend their
bitchfestsprotests
While at the same time saying HURR HURR TEH ONLY REASON SO MENY PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO OCCUPY PROTEST IS BECAWS THAY RR MOOCHERS AN DONT WORK AND TAKE TEH WELFARES!!!!!!!
347 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:50:13am |
re: #342 Dr. Matt
These people must not be productive members of society because they sure have a lot of free time to attend their
bitchfestsprotests
“We’re calling on all Americans (from the tri-counties area) to join us in our cause…Fox News will do the math and make us look successful.”
348 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:50:30am |
re: #345 William Barnett-Lewis
Moor = islam = evil is the usual route I hear.
Othello was Christian, a convert from Islam.
349 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:51:13am |
re: #332 lawhawk
“I’m not a politician”, “We need someone who isn’t a career politician”, “People are lookin’ for change”?
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350 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:51:28am |
re: #335 Pie-onist Overlord
Remember that “Million Truckers Drive” where about 3 trucks showed up? They want a do-over.
Operation American Spring!! Be there to take our country back!!
Still wondering who took their country and (given things like geography and the nature of space-time) where they’d put it.
351 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:52:11am |
re: #350 chadu
Still wondering who took their country and (given things like geography and the nature of space-time) where they’d put it.
I took it.
It’s in the glove compartment.
352 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:06am |
2. “Informed consent” laws to help women understand what a pregnancy is.
353 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:25am |
I still remember that movie with Laurence Olivier playing Othello in blackface.
354 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:30am |
re: #324 darthstar
It’s a good book. When I was a teacher, I used it as alternate reading for my Xian students who objected to Othello on religious grounds. As their parents didn’t know the book, I was able to slip it in…and their reactions to it were priceless.
WTF is wrong with Othello?
355 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:33am |
“Meanwhile, Obama watching Yanukovych's press conference” TT @aronets pic.twitter.com/ZHZhI6rmxg— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 28, 2014
356 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:42am |
re: #341 darthstar
“Religious objection” was a common fundie excuse to get out of reading - most teachers would let them pick their own book (meaning movie) to report on.
(sings)
Hypocrisy!
Standing there in the moonlight!
Holy cow, these pants, they don’t fit right!
Life ain’t beautiful, then!
357 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:52am |
re: #342 Dr. Matt
These people must not be productive members of society because they sure have a lot of free time to attend their
bitchfestsprotests
Yet they fancy themselves the “producers” of our society.
Go ahead, Mr. Wendy’s Middle Manager. Go Galt. See if anybody gives a shit.
358 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:53:55am |
359 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:54:13am |
I was involved in a club that tried to counter censorship of books in school. Wish it had gone over better but too many at that age didn’t see that censoring their reading material was in the same spirit that censoring our music, movies, and games were. Anyhow, I think it’s hilarious that many of these parents groups who are often religious in background have a problem with violent and sex in literature when their holy books aren’t exactly G rated. You’d be shocked if you saw some of the names on the most commonly challenged books.
360 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:54:14am |
re: #327 chadu
If everyone’s Christian, and reasonably devout, who’s on Stan’s side?
Unless this is promulgating the idea that a decent bunch of “everyone’s Christian” includes hypocrites and apostates?
M’kaaaaaaay…
Don’t ask questions! That’s Satan speaking through you.
//
361 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:54:37am |
re: #348 Pie-onist Overlord
Othello was Christian, a convert from Islam.
Wingnuts would claim that to be “taqiyya”.
362 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:55:08am |
364 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:55:17am |
re: #358 chadu
Anger management issues?
More like easily conned. I want someone to make a movie/modern version of The Merry Wives of Windsor. I actually found that one more humorous than a Midsummer Night’s Dream. Falstaff ftw.
365 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:55:18am |
re: #359 HappyWarrior
I was involved in a club that tried to counter censorship of books in school. Wish it had gone over better but too many at that age didn’t see that censoring their reading material was in the same spirit that censoring our music, movies, and games were. Anyhow, I think it’s hilarious that many of these parents groups who are often religious in background have a problem with violent and sex in literature when their holy books aren’t exactly G rated. You’d be shocked if you saw some of the names on the most commonly challenged books.
Only the villainous fear Knowledge.
366 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:56:33am |
367 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:56:39am |
re: #365 GunstarGreen
Only the villainous fear Knowledge.
Yep and new ways of thinking/looking at the world. it’s the same narrow mindset behind every authoritarian.
369 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:56:55am |
re: #329 Dark_Falcon
In that Alternate Universe the Soviet Union does not collapse, as I remember it. Under such circumstances, the repression and theocracy of Gilead would be a ripe target for KGB subversion. May Day is of course the Socialist Labor Day, a fact surely not lost upon Margaret Atwood.
Or am I in error?
It was published in 1985 so there was no fall of the SU in it’s timeline. That said, I think the use of Mayday is older and a reference to the use in northern Europe of old pagan customs to adapt Christianity to the conditions and customs of the local people (ala “the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath”).
Atwood is always putting layer upon layer so the ability to come up with such alternative interpretations is no surprise.
371 | Flounder Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:58:19am |
re: #325 GunstarGreen
I thought time was constant. How it is measured changes with gravity.
373 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:59:54am |
re: #348 Pie-onist Overlord
Othello was Christian, a convert from Islam.
Yes, I know. The parents? Not so much, I’d bet.
374 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:00:19am |
ala.org
Count em up and see how many you’ve read.
So many classics in the literal sense and childhood sense- I loved Alvin Schwartz’s scary stories.
375 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:00:20am |
376 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:01:15am |
re: #369 William Barnett-Lewis
It was published in 1985 so there was no fall of the SU in it’s timeline. That said, I think the use of Mayday is older and a reference to the use in northern Europe of old pagan customs to adapt Christianity to the conditions and customs of the local people (ala “the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath”).
Atwood is always putting layer upon layer so the ability to come up with such alternative interpretations is no surprise.
Yeah, now reminded of the existence of Mayday, I believe (on one reading like 25 years ago) there was a lightly-sketched conflation of pagan feminism (if not matriarchy) and communism in the frame story.
Then again, that was the same year (not course) that I read Egalia’s Daughters and Herland, so I may be conflating a little.
377 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:01:24am |
Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox may have lost $450 Million, files for bankruptcy: http://t.co/q7qCPxJ5Or— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 28, 2014
Come on, Winklevoss twins - you know you want a piece of that.
378 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:02:29am |
re: #373 William Barnett-Lewis
Yes, I know. The parents? Not so much, I’d bet.
As Obama has proved, if your grandfather was a Moose-Lim, you’re a Muzzleman.
///
379 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:02:57am |
re: #228 Targetpractice
All we’re waiting for at this point is Kremlin announcing that they will support the Crimean “secession” and the troops they’re moving in are simply there to “keep the peace” and ensure not “insurgents” attempt to undermine the “will of the people.”
The standard is to be there to protect Russian citizens and commercial interests. Is there a Russian fruit company with warehouses and facilities there in the Crimea?
//
380 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:03:03am |
LOLWHUT
Taxpayer-Funded Planned Parenthood Promotes Sadomasochism Month for Kids (Video) http://t.co/FIPsmw3v9r via @gatewaypundit— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) February 28, 2014
381 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:03:45am |
No, because those orientations don’t challenge your worldview as much as a feminist perspective does. People’s distaste for a feminist perspective just proves their unwillingness to see women as fully human.
QFT
382 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:03:46am |
re: #371 Flounder
I thought time was constant. How it is measured changes with gravity.
Time itself (the flow of time) depends on gravitation and speed. That’s what relativity tells us. But the only way we would know time is faster or slower is by comparing our time measurements to someone else’s.
383 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:04:07am |
re: #376 chadu
Yeah, now reminded of the existence of Mayday, I believe (on one reading like 25 years ago) there was a lightly-sketched conflation of pagan feminism (if not matriarchy) and communism in the frame story.
Then again, that was the same year (not course) that I read Egalia’s Daughters and Herland, so I may be conflating a little.
HERLAND put me into a 6 month depression.
384 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:04:25am |
385 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:04:31am |
re: #380 Pie-onist Overlord
LOLWHUT
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Jim. ,my dear boy do you know what Planned Parenthood actually does?
386 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:05:00am |
387 | ericblair Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:07am |
388 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:09am |
re: #381 FemNaziBitch
QFT
I think what’s frustrating especially for many women who self id as feminists is how ignorant many people especially men are in regards to what it means to be a feminist and to believe in feminism. I’ve unfortunately encountered a lot of these attitudes in the Asperger’s/Autistic community.
389 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:32am |
390 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:36am |
391 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:46am |
re: #384 chadu
The sled was in Tyler Durden’s briefcase.
I caught that reflection of it in the mirror.
392 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:06:52am |
re: #383 FemNaziBitch
HERLAND put me into a 6 month depression.
I barely remember it and ED, except for drips and drabs, but I remember being bummed out too
393 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:07:52am |
re: #343 Targetpractice
Shocking. This is my shocked face. Let me show you.
The GOP has nothing but vaporware when it comes to health care policy alternatives. They’ll gin up anger and venom against the ACA, but when pressed on alternatives, they’ve got nothing.
Repeal or delay or defund. That’s been their strategy, and it shows.
Their strategy to claim that people are losing their insurance or are financially worse off doesn’t quite pass the smell test when you look at an apples to apples comparison - premiums, out of pocket costs, max costs.
And the GOP continues to try and claim that any increase in costs for insurance are due to ACA, when insurance costs have done nothing but increase for 20 years all while benefits have been curtailed by insurers looking to maximize profits and limit exposure on claims.
394 | Weet Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:08:59am |
#Crimea. Bold attempt by Russia to see if it can host the Winter Olympics and World War 3 in the same year.
— Imran Garda (@ImranGarda) February 28, 2014
395 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:09:52am |
re: #369 William Barnett-Lewis
It was published in 1985 so there was no fall of the SU in it’s timeline. That said, I think the use of Mayday is older and a reference to the use in northern Europe of old pagan customs to adapt Christianity to the conditions and customs of the local people (ala “the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath”).
Atwood is always putting layer upon layer so the ability to come up with such alternative interpretations is no surprise.
That makes sense.
396 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:10:15am |
Any Transformers fans here today?
397 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:10:51am |
re: #377 darthstar
But remember, Bitcoin is secure, anonymous, and hack-proof.
Except that Mt.Gox showed that it isn’t secure, it isn’t hack-proof, and you can anonymously lose your shirt (though in order to carry out a transaction, you have to provide more personal details than if you were to carry out a transaction in cash).
And if you have cash, it’s still worth something. If an exchange goes belly up, your bitcoin is… well, what bitcoin? It simply vanished.
Yeah, that’s something the Winklevii would get into.
398 | Weet Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:11:08am |
@anneapplebaum RT @ukrpravda_news Russian armored troop carriers en route to Simferopol, #Crimea #Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/qHzgaFUFes
— Ruthen (@RutheniaRus) February 28, 2014
399 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:11:42am |
Japan to review lead-up to WW2 comfort women statement
Some 200,000 women in territories occupied by Japan during World War Two are estimated to have been forced to become sex slaves for troops.
…
Some conservatives in Japan have argued that the women, known euphemistically as “comfort women”, were prostitutes - claims fiercely denied by the women and Japan’s neighbours.
because prostitues aren’t people?
400 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:13:17am |
re: #380 Pie-onist Overlord
LOLWHUT
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At first glance (I refuse to give them any more clicks or time), it appears to be a video ‘aimed at teens’ (didn’t verify that) talking about safe practices with respect to BDSM.
Kids are going to experiment in their teens. Some of them will experiment with kink. I’d much rather they do so armed with knowledge about how to be Safe, Sane, and Consensual. Making sure our children are equipped with the knowledge they need to keep safe is a good thing.
Unless you’re a Republican.
401 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:14:36am |
re: #399 FemNaziBitch
Japan to review lead-up to WW2 comfort women statement
because prostitues aren’t people?
Japan needs to come to grips with its past.
402 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:14:38am |
I trust nobody's stooped to using a “Crimea river, Putin” headline— Doug Saunders (@DougSaunders) February 28, 2014
403 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:15:20am |
404 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:15:27am |
re: #400 GunstarGreen
At first glance (I refuse to give them any more clicks or time), it appears to be a video ‘aimed at teens’ (didn’t verify that) talking about safe practices with respect to BDSM.
Kids are going to experiment in their teens. Some of them will experiment with kink. I’d much rather they do so armed with knowledge about how to be Safe, Sane, and Consensual. Making sure our children are equipped with the knowledge they need to keep safe is a good thing.
Unless you’re a Republican.
So it’s the same outrage that they have when sex in general comes up? Check, please.
405 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:16:05am |
406 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:20:48am |
RT: @PicardTips “Picard management tip: Take no notice of cleavage.” || Especially when hiring a plumber.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 28, 2014
407 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:21:13am |
re: #404 HappyWarrior
So it’s the same outrage that they have when sex in general comes up? Check, please.
OMG!!!!!!
someone said the “s” word
408 | darthstar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:25:27am |
How Gobbledygook Ended Up in Respected Scientific Journals http://t.co/5pkB6tzSEg via @slate— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 28, 2014
409 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:25:46am |
HuffPo, as if they couldn’t sink any lower, has a filter that auto-deletes your post if you include “Andrea Mackris”.
410 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:26:36am |
re: #409 Dr. Matt
HuffPo, as if they couldn’t sink any lower, has a filter that auto-deletes your post if you include “Andrea Mackris”.
I don’t even know what that is.
412 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:28:05am |
re: #407 FemNaziBitch
OMG!!!!!!
someone said the “s” word
Oh my god someone talking about sex without talking of it being sinful and disgusting.
413 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:28:36am |
414 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:29:46am |
415 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:30:45am |
re: #413 Pie-onist Overlord
I have never heard of Andrea Mackris.
She was a Fox employee that O’Reilly sexually harassed years ago for which he settled to a lawsuit to an undisclosed amount.
416 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:32:20am |
re: #399 FemNaziBitch
Japan to review lead-up to WW2 comfort women statement
because prostitutes aren’t people?
To ultra-nationalist Japanese people foreign prostitutes are indeed not real people. This attitude towards other nations that their inhabitants could be brutalized or killed to suit Japan’s convenience has its American analog to be sure, but some in Japan turn that attitude up to ‘12’ (even wingnut will normally only go up to ‘11’) and they are quite vocal about it. When Japanese politicians do this, they manage to anger both Japan’s allies (The US, South Korea, and Taiwan) and enemies/rivals (North Korea and China) at the same time.
417 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:33:30am |
re: #415 Dr. Matt
She was a Fox employee that O’Reilly sexually harassed years ago for which he settled to lawsuit to an undisclosed amount.
Yeah I remember the transcripts coming out. This wasn’t long after he went off on Ludacris and other rappers for their lyrical content in regards to women when it comes like old Bill-O was guilty of doing it himself. It was how I first found out about falafel though. Not in the way I should have granted.
418 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:35:44am |
419 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:36:12am |
Scott Lively knows who's to blame for high heterosexual divorce rates: Gays, of course! http://t.co/m5mH2kU2qi— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 28, 2014
420 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:37:02am |
re: #417 HappyWarrior
Yeah I remember the transcripts coming out. This wasn’t long after he went off on Ludacris and other rappers for their lyrical content in regards to women when it comes like old Bill-O was guilty of doing it himself. It was how I first found out about falafel’s though. Not in the way I should have granted.
That has to be the first time I’ve seen falafel and Bill-O in a paragraph together.
421 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:37:29am |
Max Blumenthal : TEH JUICE :: Bryan Fischer : TEH GHEY
422 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:37:36am |
re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord
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because all the heterosexual people are divorcing so they can have ghey sex?
423 | FemNaziBitch Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:38:20am |
According to my Jawbone UP, I slept like shit last night.
I’m going to take a nap now.
bbl
424 | wheat-dogghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:38:21am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
To ultra-nationalist Japanese people foreign prostitutes are indeed not real people. This attitude towards other nations that their inhabitants could be brutalized or killed to suit Japan’s convenience has its American analog to be sure, but some in Japan turn that attitude up to ‘12’ (even wingnut will normally only go up to ‘11’) and they are quite vocal about it. When Japanese politicians do this, they manage to anger both Japan’s allies (The US, South Korea, and Taiwan) and enemies/rivals (North Korea and China) at the same time.
A similar sentiment is found among ultra-nationalist Chinese, who don’t limit “not real people” to just prostitutes, but to laowai (foreigners) in general. A very old slang term for foreigner translates as “foreign devil.” I called out a student for using that term within my earshot, as it is very offensive, like the n- word in America.
425 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:39:45am |
re: #417 HappyWarrior
Love him, or hate him, but it was amusing watching Olbermann pound O’Reilly on a night basis about the Mackris ordeal back in the day. O-man was even offering her $100K (his Fox severance) to come on MSNBC to tell the whole story. I imagine her settlement was much higher than $100K.
426 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:40:24am |
427 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:41:02am |
re: #420 FemNaziBitch
That has to be the first time I’ve seen falafel and Bill-O in a paragraph together.
Painfully, it won’t be the last.
428 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:41:49am |
re: #422 FemNaziBitch
because all the heterosexual people are divorcing so they can have ghey sex?
Of course. What else could it be.// Lively’s such a stupid fuck.
429 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:42:43am |
re: #420 FemNaziBitch
That has to be the first time I’ve seen falafel and Bill-O in a paragraph together.
It was something that he said to her. That or loofah. That said, it was real painful to read. Just like hearing the drunk dials that Pat O’Brien made to that one woman requesting a threesome.
430 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:43:14am |
During all day military vehicles are coming &aircraft are arriving to #Belbek aiport in #Crimea. They don't belong to #Ukraine army |PR News— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
10 APCs departured from #Russian Black Sea Fleet base in #Sevastopol and are moving to #Simferopol - 1+1channel |PR News #Crimea #Ukraine
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
431 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:43:49am |
re: #421 Pie-onist Overlord
Max Blumenthal : TEH JUICE :: Bryan Fischer : TEH GHEY
I’m thinking that Ghey Juice would probably be a brand name for a boysenberry-gooseberry punch.
432 | b.d. Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:44:04am |
So Russian forces have started digging in and now all they are waiting for is winter?
433 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:45:40am |
re: #432 b.d.
So Russian forces have started digging in and now all they are waiting for is winter?
They are there to protect Ukrainians from the winter vortex.
434 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:47:21am |
re: #430 NJDhockeyfan
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I’m still trying to figure out what they’re doing with the airports. At first I thought it might be just to get a few people out (regime politicians, suitases of cash, etc) and a few people in (special forces, commandos, etc). From the looks of things this morning it might be a staging area for occupation/invasion forces. We’ll see soon enough.
435 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:48:25am |
Dear 'Son of God' - if you cut out Jesus' teachings it's just the story of a Jewish magician & we've already got films about Houdini.— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) February 28, 2014
436 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:50:44am |
Ousted Ukrainian leader: “No one overthrew me, I was forced to flee” http://t.co/CAN6wL6QLz— TIME.com (@TIME) February 28, 2014
437 | b.d. Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:50:57am |
re: #433 NJDhockeyfan
They are there to protect Ukrainians from the winter vortex.
In Putin’s Russia, vortex polars you.
438 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:51:44am |
439 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:52:19am |
re: #420 FemNaziBitch
That has to be the first time I’ve seen falafel and Bill-O in a paragraph together.
And there’s also the Bill-O and luffa incident…
441 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:53:14am |
BBC: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
For a start the Russian military does not need to invade - it is already there, leasing facilities from the Ukrainian authorities.
The bulk of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet is based in Crimea with its headquarters in Sevastopol.
…
Russian pressure in Crimea again serves Moscow’s wider purpose of reminding Ukraine’s new rulers that Moscow’s concerns must be considered in any future economic and diplomatic arrangements.
443 | Jayleia Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:53:56am |
re: #433 NJDhockeyfan
Our daily prize winner…where do you want your Internets delivered?
444 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:57:12am |
CNN video report: A ‘responsible gun owner’ takes a photo of his infant ‘holding’ a rifle
445 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 7:59:05am |
re: #444 Dr. Matt
CNN video report: A ‘responsible gun owner’ takes a photo of his infant ‘holding’ a rifle
That’s smart……..not.
446 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:00:25am |
heh…
Of note in C-J #ArkPark story: AiG couldn't raise enough & to complete bond sale, so they threw in own $ to meet min: http://t.co/JwP2BJqh4t
— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) February 28, 2014
“Ham spent much of the announcement railing against reporters and atheist bloggers for 'distortions'” http://t.co/JwP2BJqh4t
— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) February 28, 2014
447 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:00:43am |
[Video] 11 Russian gunship helicopters flying into Ukrainian airspace over Crimea http://t.co/0sQY4FN2zB— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) February 28, 2014
448 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:01:18am |
re: #445 HappyWarrior
That’s smart……..not.
I don’t care if the bolt is open, the ammo is locked away, the firing pin is removed, the barrel is packed with cement….doesn’t matter. This.is.not.responsible.by.any.standard.
449 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:01:18am |
This is what wingnuts think is “humor”
The plastic bag may soon be extinct in California. Save the endangered species! http://t.co/SSLsk6lOrX #TCOT pic.twitter.com/x5o2XI6n7c— The People's Cube (@ThePeoplesCube) February 27, 2014
450 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:01:28am |
re: #444 Dr. Matt
CNN video report: A ‘responsible gun owner’ takes a photo of his infant ‘holding’ a rifle
451 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:03:58am |
re: #400 GunstarGreen
At first glance (I refuse to give them any more clicks or time), it appears to be a video ‘aimed at teens’ (didn’t verify that) talking about safe practices with respect to BDSM.
Kids are going to experiment in their teens. Some of them will experiment with kink. I’d much rather they do so armed with knowledge about how to be Safe, Sane, and Consensual. Making sure our children are equipped with the knowledge they need to keep safe is a good thing.
Unless you’re a Republican.
Just look at that link to challenged books earlier in the thread. The thing most of them have in common is characters challenging the status quo and standard mores.
That “To Kill A Mockingbird” is on those lists is something I always am sort of upset about. All I can imagine for the most part is that the main plot hits too close to home with a bunch of people and makes them butthurt.
452 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:06:47am |
re: #447 NJDhockeyfan
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Here is the video. Tell this wouldn’t scare the shit out of you if you saw this while driving down the road.
453 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:07:14am |
This guy has lots more photos on his TL.
Russian flags have gone up on two border points btw Crimea and mainland #Ukraine. Pro-Russia men w/guns checking cars pic.twitter.com/nZs1rSukGP
— Paul Sonne (@PaulSonne) February 28, 2014
This is the pro-Russia encampment of Cossacks at the eastern checkpoint serving as backup to berkut. pic.twitter.com/IWNOcpqm0P
— Paul Sonne (@PaulSonne) February 28, 2014
Russian bikers take lead at block posts in Crimea. Pic here of commander of post blocking east-west highway. #ukraine pic.twitter.com/9LHf5G2Az9
— Alan Cullison (@AlanCullison) February 28, 2014
454 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:07:52am |
Are the EU member states actually going to do anything or are they going to stand on their own dicks? The US can’t bail them out, this is their back yard.
There hasn’t been a successful annexation of such a large chunk of land since the 1800s, and even those didn’t work out so great. Nationalist thought, right here.
455 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:09:26am |
re: #454 Aqua Obama
Are the EU member states actually going to do anything or are they going to stand on their own dicks? The US can’t bail them out, this is their back yard.
There hasn’t been a successful annexation of such a large chunk of land since the 1800s, and even those didn’t work out so great. Nationalist thought, right here.
Is that counting the westward border shift by the SU at the end of WW2? Poland got the former East Prussia while the SU shifted its own border westward as well.
456 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:10:16am |
re: #454 Aqua Obama
Are the EU member states actually going to do anything or are they going to stand on their own dicks? The US can’t bail them out, this is their back yard.
There hasn’t been a successful annexation of such a large chunk of land since the 1800s, and even those didn’t work out so great. Nationalist thought, right here.
Actually, I’d say the annexation of the Sudetenland by the German Reich in 1938 was perhaps the biggest in recent history.
Which is what we’re seeing again, except in Ukraine this time. The actors have changed, and the plot’s been tweaked a bit, but it’s the same story.
457 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:13:30am |
Breaking: Russia says its troops are moving in Crimea. Confirms armoured vehicles moved from naval base http://t.co/Gj9UnSJEG3
— Telegraph World News (@TelegraphWorld) February 28, 2014
458 | Skip Intro Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:13:39am |
re: #335 Pie-onist Overlord
Remember that “Million Truckers Drive” where about 3 trucks showed up? They want a do-over.
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No need for that. Mike Zullo and Carl Gallups will be presenting blockbuster ebidence in a couple of days that will bring the regime down.
459 | Bulworth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:13:59am |
So the Teabag Party is 5 years old. That means it started up right around the time PBO was inaugurated, even before he’d done a damn thing. Amazing.
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460 | Skip Intro Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:14:45am |
re: #264 wheat-dogghazi
Bitcoiners are already turning on themselves. This is Mark Karpeles, CEO of Mt Gox, making a statement on Japanese TV. The translation is snark.
I’ve been told this is a buying opportunity.
461 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:15:43am |
re: #455 Feline Fearless Leader
The only reason those annexations worked was ethnic cleansing and massive population transfers.
I think it’s kind of telling that there isn’t a single democratic country on Russia’s south-west flank that hasn’t been separated, manipulated, or invaded in some form. Even the Azeri oil pipeline was closed in Russia a couple of years ago.
462 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:17:45am |
IS ALL CHIP CRAP BOUGHT FROM DOLLAR STORES!!!!
Yanukovych: All the photos of his house were a “political trick” to discredit him. Says he has no assets abroad either. Poor guy.— Simon Shuster (@shustry) February 28, 2014
463 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:18:44am |
re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s officially on then. Say a prayer for the Ukrainians. I don’t think this is going to end right away and will be very bloody.
464 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:19:23am |
re: #462 Pie-onist Overlord
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Someone should ask him about the stolen Horch 855 Special Roadster
465 | Skip Intro Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:20:52am |
re: #409 Dr. Matt
HuffPo, as if they couldn’t sink any lower, has a filter that auto-deletes your post if you include “Andrea Mackris”.
I thought they hit rock bottom with their “Kardashian Story Generator” bot.
466 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:21:40am |
re: #462 Pie-onist Overlord
IS ALL CHIP CRAP BOUGHT FROM DOLLAR STORES!!!!
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The protesters ran up to his house with an army of interior designers and quickly decorated it for the press. Plausible looking at how ugly it is inside.
467 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:21:46am |
@MartinSchulz via @EuromaidanPR 7 rusian military helicopters from #Anapa (#Russia) landed in #Crimea -5channel |PR News #Ukraine
— Ruthen (@RutheniaRus) February 28, 2014
Reports of several (up to 10) Russian IL 76 cargo planes landing in Crimea.
— Arkady Ostrovsky (@ArkadyOstrovsky) February 28, 2014
468 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:26:22am |
re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That is an act of war. Apparently, no one in the world has the balls to tell Putin to knock it the fuck off.
469 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:27:27am |
Instead of “voted off the island” they get stoned.
Please. Someone make this happen. Please. pic.twitter.com/Mwn7tJkU0L— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) February 28, 2014
470 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:28:52am |
re: #469 Pie-onist Overlord
Instead of “voted off the island” they get stoned.
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Bible Survivor, next on Fox.
471 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:29:45am |
#Ukraine: avoid all travel to #Crimea due to political uncertainty and reports of armed operations http://t.co/l3TNWUbDjn
— Canada in Ukraine (@CanEmbUkraine) February 28, 2014
472 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:32:07am |
i think breitbart makes their writers eat paste.— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 28, 2014
473 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:32:09am |
re: #468 Dr Lizardo
That is an act of war. Apparently, no one in the world has the balls to tell Putin to knock it the fuck off.
Oh, you mean that Putin has just had Russia violate a treaty they signed regarding the Ukraine’s territorial integrity? Of course, with Yanuk he now has the cover story for the interference. Though I expect he will just seize and separate the Crimea into an “independent” nation with this and not actually try to put Yanuk back in charge of the whole country.
I guess the rest of the world can take this the UN Security Council where it can run afoul of a nice Russian veto. Superpower politics.
I don’t like it. But I am not surprised one iota by it. One you get into realpolitik the big boys can get away with just about anything they want, especially in their generally accepted sphere of influence.
474 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:33:48am |
Probably the best thing the Ukrainians could do right now is set up their forces along the pre-1954 UkrainianSSR boarder with Crimea. Defending that and letting something historically separate go is probably all they can hope to do.
475 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:33:53am |
re: #434 Killgore Trout
I’m still trying to figure out what they’re doing with the airports. At first I thought it might be just to get a few people out (regime politicians, suitases of cash, etc) and a few people in (special forces, commandos, etc). From the looks of things this morning it might be a staging area for occupation/invasion forces. We’ll see soon enough.
Seizing the Air Ports of Debarkation (APOD) is part of the modern playbook. It’s about the only job left for airborne troops. (Didn’t need airborne in this case.)
476 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:35:37am |
OK Ben, I will hand it to you, that you rocked in the anti-BDS debate, but now you are back to being a dumbass again.
Anyone comparing the plights of gays in 2014 America to plight of blacks necessitating Civil Rights Act in 1964 is ridiculous.— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 28, 2014
477 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:35:48am |
re: #468 Dr Lizardo
That is an act of war. Apparently, no one in the world has the balls to tell Putin to knock it the fuck off.
It’s not really a ‘balls’ situation. It’s a ‘what are you going to back this up with’ situation. Do you think we should put American lives at risk at this point, to prevent Russia from something the Crimea?
478 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:36:12am |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
Here is the video. Tell this wouldn’t scare the shit out of you if you saw this while driving down the road.
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First thought on seeing that vid: WOLVERINES!
/OK, I’m kidding. But it does make you think of Red Dawn a little, doesn’t it?
479 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:37:47am |
re: #476 Pie-onist Overlord
OK Ben, I will hand it to you, that you rocked in the anti-BDS debate, but now you are back to being a dumbass again.
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He’s right. If a black person in 1964 happened to be in love with another black person, they could get married no problem.
480 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:37:51am |
re: #473 Feline Fearless Leader
Oh, you mean that Putin has just had Russia violate a treaty they signed regarding the Ukraine’s territorial integrity? Of course, with Yanuk he now has the cover story for the interference. Though I expect he will just seize and separate the Crimea into an “independent” nation with this and not actually try to put Yanuk back in charge of the whole country.
I guess the rest of the world can take this the UN Security Council where it can run afoul of a nice Russian veto. Superpower politics.
I don’t like it. But I am not surprised one iota by it. One you get into realpolitik the big boys can get away with just about anything they want, especially in their generally accepted sphere of influence.
That’s a distinct possibility; I doubt he’d put Yanukovych back in Kyiv; most likely, he’d say “tough shit” to Yanuk as to being put back in charge.
It bothers me because this is close to how the Sudetenland Crisis played out. The Western powers could’ve stopped it, yet they failed to do so, on the dubious argument that “it’s just the Germans going into their own back garden” and other ridiculous lines of reasoning.
The lesson learned from the squalid affair was that sometimes, you have to smack down an annexationist dictator with delusions of empire.
481 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:38:34am |
re: #479 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
He’s right. If a black person in 1964 happened to be in love with another black person, they could get married no problem.
Match made. Well played.
482 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:38:48am |
re: #477 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
It’s not really a ‘balls’ situation. It’s a ‘what are you going to back this up with’ situation. Do you think we should put American lives at risk at this point, to prevent Russia from something the Crimea?
Not sure we should, but we seem to be signatory to assurances to the Ukraine that are far more real than anything to Syria, Libya, Egypt or Israel.
483 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:39:24am |
re: #475 Decatur Deb
Seizing the Air Ports of Debarkation (APOD) is part of the modern playbook. It’s about the only job left for airborne troops. (Didn’t need airborne in this case.)
The Russians will likely use airborne units, at least in part, since its their bailiwick and because those units have the best foot soldiers Russia can deploy outside of the Spetsnaz.
484 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:40:28am |
MOAR DERP
Yes, you have the right to boink whoever you like. But now I am forced to fund & celebrate it. #LiberalTolerance— John Nolte (@NolteNC) February 28, 2014
485 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:40:30am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
Not sure we should, but we seem to be signatory to assurances to the Ukraine that are far more real than anything to Syria, Libya, Egypt or Israel.
Precisely. And Russia is a signatory to the Budapest Memorandum as well, though apparently for the Russians, treaties are little more than toilet paper.
486 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:41:15am |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
The Russians will likely use airborne units, at least in part, since its their bailiwick and because those units have the best foot soldiers Russia can deploy outside of the Spetsnaz.
But unless they’re going Hollywood, they won’t jump, just ride in comfortable light armor.
487 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:41:51am |
re: #480 Dr Lizardo
That’s a distinct possibility; I doubt he’d put Yanukovych back in Kyiv; most likely, he’d say “tough shit” to Yanuk as to being put back in charge.
It bothers me because this is close to how the Sudetenland Crisis played out. The Western powers could’ve stopped it, yet they failed to do so, on the dubious argument that “it’s just the Germans going into their own back garden” and other ridiculous lines of reasoning.
The lesson learned from the squalid affair was that sometimes, you have to smack down an annexationist dictator with delusions of empire.
I see more parallels to South Ossetia back in ‘08. Russia will portray this as the people of the Crimea asking to be annexed by Russia and will say that he is moving troops in to oversee the “transition” and to ensure that “insurgents” from Ukraine do not interfere or attempt to seize the government there. When it’s all said and done, the UN and EU will issue letters of condemnation, perhaps threaten sanctions, but Putin knows that as long as Russia holds a Security Council veto, there’s nothing more the West can do but scream that this is not the way things are done.
488 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:42:40am |
re: #486 Decatur Deb
But unless they’re going Hollywood, they won’t jump, just ride in comfortable light armor.
Right. Why jump when you can land in a transport at the airport and march off with your equipment and unit already in order.
489 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:42:46am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
Not sure we should, but we seem to be signatory to assurances to the Ukraine that are far more real than anything to Syria, Libya, Egypt or Israel.
The problem is that Russia still has far more military power than any of those nations save Israel, and in terms of naval power and nuclear weapons Russia even puts Israel in the shade. Power matters, more than justice in international affairs.
490 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:43:20am |
Thoughts…
My guess is the EU will say noting as long as the Russians stay in Crimea. They have history there & the warm water ports are critical to Russia.
If they go into the Ukraine and especially if they mess with the gas & oil flowing from Russia via the Ukraine? Then things get much messier and unlike when Georgia happened, the EU & former WP nations may well get involved. Even a ‘cut off’ by Moscow could have tremendous consequences.
491 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:44:56am |
re: #484 Pie-onist Overlord
Oh please. How is he paying for it? And I don’t recall anyone suggesting forced attendance at Gay Pride events.
All the whining and crying about this just proves that these people have really easy jobs that don’t keep them at all busy. What are they so afraid of?
492 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:46:20am |
re: #490 William Barnett-Lewis
Thoughts…
My guess is the EU will say noting as long as the Russians stay in Crimea. They have history there & the warm water ports are critical to Russia.If they go into the Ukraine and especially if they mess with the gas & oil flowing from Russia via the Ukraine? Then things get much messier and unlike when Georgia happened, the EU & former WP nations may well get involved. Even a ‘cut off’ by Moscow could have tremendous consequences.
Then all we can do is keep our collective fingers crossed that Russia has no further designs beyond the Crimean Peninsula.
Many of those former Warsaw Pact nations are now NATO member states, and they will pressing most insistently for the EU and the US to do something in the event that Putin decides to eat the whole thing.
493 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:46:35am |
re: #490 William Barnett-Lewis
Thoughts…
My guess is the EU will say noting as long as the Russians stay in Crimea. They have history there & the warm water ports are critical to Russia.If they go into the Ukraine and especially if they mess with the gas & oil flowing from Russia via the Ukraine? Then things get much messier and unlike when Georgia happened, the EU & former WP nations may well get involved. Even a ‘cut off’ by Moscow could have tremendous consequences.
Especially considering that much of the EU’s gas flowing through pipes through Ukraine. No, I doubt that Moscow will be that foolish. They’ll settle for Crimea, perhaps test to see how far they can push the Ukrainian military before they get a response, but otherwise will settle for securing their Black Sea port.
494 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:46:52am |
re: #488 Feline Fearless Leader
Right. Why jump when you can land in a transport at the airport and march off with your equipment and unit already in order.
To show off would be why. But that isn’t done when it would put the operation at risk. Right now Russia can land its transports normally and as long as that’s the case Russia will keep doing that.
Keep your eyes out for photos of the Russian airborne forces, though. They’ve received new armored vehicles recently, self-propelled 120mm gun-mortars and 125mm-armed TDs. Lets see if they show ‘em off.
495 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:47:10am |
re: #484 Pie-onist Overlord
MOAR DERP
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496 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:47:45am |
re: #489 Dark_Falcon
Russia’s military is shit except for a few elite units. Their economy is shambolic and couldn’t sustain actual warfare with something like the US for very long at all. As long as we didn’t invade them, the US could laugh at them while fighting. But US soldiers would still die, because even a shambolic, laughable enemy will inflict casualties. Hell, just moving people from point A to point B will.
Also, they have a bunch of nukes.
497 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:47:47am |
re: #491 A Mom Anon
Oh please. How is he paying for it? And I don’t recall anyone suggesting forced attendance at Gay Pride events.
All the whining and crying about this just proves that these people have really easy jobs that don’t keep them at all busy. What are they so afraid of?
They’re afraid that they may have to deal with someone different then them. The horror.
498 | Internet Tough Guy Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:47:59am |
re: #480 Dr Lizardo
It bothers me because this is close to how the Sudetenland Crisis played out. The Western powers could’ve stopped it, yet they failed to do so, on the dubious argument that “it’s just the Germans going into their own back garden” and other ridiculous lines of reasoning.
Except this time the aggressor has a large nuclear arsenal.
499 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:49:38am |
They’re not just hanging around the airport now.
BREAKING VIDEO of 12 #russian-combat helicopters (MI-24 & MI-8 3) over #Sevastopol in #Crimea http://t.co/g5DXQld3T9 |PR Video #Ukraine
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
500 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:52:14am |
There’s shades of the South Ossetia conflict involved here as well. Russian intervention in territory outside the Russian border in the name of “peacekeeping” in support of local loyalists to Russia.
501 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:52:35am |
re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth
They’re not just hanging around the airport now.
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502 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:52:53am |
re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth
They’re not just hanging around the airport now.
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Saw that earlier but they were already there so to speak. Black Sea Fleet Naval Air Force’s HQ is in Sevastopol.
503 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:52:54am |
re: #484 Pie-onist Overlord
What do teabaggers spew this “liberal tolerance” meme? I freely admit I have zero tolerance for the radical far-right fools that plaque the political landscape.
504 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:53:13am |
Putin is going to find himself on the receiving end of a very strongly worded letter.
505 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:53:18am |
re: #495 HappyWarrior
Or they could have a private bakey club in a treehouse with a “no icky gays allowed” sign on the front. Private clubs can make their own rules, businesses open to the public and licensed by the government have to serve the freaking PUBLIC. Willfully obtuse and stupid much? Assholes.
506 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:54:35am |
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
507 | Mike Lamb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:54:43am |
re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord
What about Teh Muslims Bryan? Are they your allies in TEH GREAT WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY?
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508 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:55:17am |
re: #500 lawhawk
There’s shades of the South Ossetia conflict involved here as well. Russian intervention in territory outside the Russian border in the name of “peacekeeping” in support of local loyalists to Russia.
I think it’s the horn of Russian nationalism that they’re stuck on. The majority of Crimea is ethnically Russian. Putin has been hyping the Russian ethnic supremacy/nationalism thing for a long time now.
The Crimea isn’t even something they should want. It is not a highly developed place, it does not have a good economy, a major part of the economy was tourism which is now going to be shit. This is what is actually more worrying: this doesn’t make any rational sense, if it is an attempt to grab the Crimea, except if it’s politically necessary.
510 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:55:49am |
re: #505 A Mom Anon
Or they could have a private bakey club in a treehouse with a “no icky gays allowed” sign on the front. Private clubs can make their own rules, businesses open to the public and licensed by the government have to serve the freaking PUBLIC. Willfully obtuse and stupid much? Assholes.
Exactly. These people are idiots anyhow for costing themselves potential customers. I wouldn’t shop at a blatantly anti gay business out of principle.
511 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:55:58am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
Oh, the wingnuts will make a lot of noise about how the President is “weak” for not confronting Putin, but if you put the question to them of sending troops to throw Russia out Crimea, they’ll quickly change the subject.
512 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:56:05am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
Depends if Obama says that they’re preparing one, in which case McCain will whine about Obama ‘telegraphing’.
513 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:56:33am |
re: #503 Dr. Matt
What do teabaggers spew this “liberal tolerance” meme? I freely admit I have zero tolerance for the radical far-right fools that plaque the political landscape.
The meme is HURR HURR LIBTURDS IS TEH INTOLERANTS!!!!! IF YOU SAYS SOMETHING THEY DISAGREES WITH THEY CALLS U A RACIST & HOMOPHOBE & HURTS UR FEELINGS HURR HURR!!!!!!!
514 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:56:41am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
Is “The McCaine Mutiny” the fictional story of a POTUS candidate being forced to take up an obviously inept running mate due to a revolt of his advisors and financial backers?
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515 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:56:55am |
re: #496 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
Russia’s military is shit except for a few elite units. Their economy is shambolic and couldn’t sustain actual warfare with something like the US for very long at all. As long as we didn’t invade them, the US could laugh at them while fighting. But US soldiers would still die, because even a shambolic, laughable enemy will inflict casualties. Hell, just moving people from point A to point B will.
Also, they have a bunch of nukes.
The problem is some of those elite units are in the Crimea right now. And their gunship pilots are actually well trained, and many of them have air-to-ground combat experience as well.
don’t under estimate Russia, Obdi. This close to its den The Bear is a formidable foe.
516 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:58:18am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
McCain has already started.
Former US presidential candidate John McCain tells #c4news Putin sees US as weak and Crimea as “cold war chessboard” http://t.co/kqdeMosUX7.
— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) February 28, 2014
517 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:58:23am |
518 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:59:23am |
re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth
McCain has already started.
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Well shit. I was going to buy a Bitcoin with that fiver.
519 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:59:27am |
re: #511 Targetpractice
Oh, the wingnuts will make a lot of noise about how the President is “weak” for not confronting Putin, but if you put the question to them of sending troops to throw Russia out Crimea, they’ll quickly change the subject.
It’ll be just like Libya/Syria/whatever. Yell and scream about “not stopping evil!” until the US gets involved, and then immediately switch gears about it being “Obama’s Vietnam” the moment the US does get involved.
The common thread of all GOP talk is “against whatever Obama is saying or doing”. It’s sort of like the childish annoyance game of immediately denying anything someone is saying. It’s noise, and it’s not productive.
520 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:59:31am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCain calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
Not gonna happen. He knows naval history quite well, and he knows how hard fighting that near your enemies bases and so far from your own is.
521 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 8:59:32am |
Here are some HURR HURR LIBRULS IS TEH INTOLERANTS!!!!!!
Liberal “Tolerance” pic.twitter.com/zJyjMP7A9q”— Ryan Nuckolls (@RTNspeaks) December 19, 2013
@England811 Liberal tolerance… pic.twitter.com/ueMMty08Pv— Max McLeieer (@MMcLeieer) February 26, 2014
You say you want tolerance and despise hate, but if I don't agree… Liberal logic, I guess. pic.twitter.com/vguZPGqefj— Al Bennett (@ab26825) February 25, 2014
Tolerance to a liberal is when all conservatives get bashed… pic.twitter.com/d3oJRH6rUZ— 2000 Man (@ChrisLawson71) December 30, 2013
522 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:00:46am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
They’re a formidable foe because they have a bunch of nukes. The rest of the shit really doesn’t matter vs. the US, thanks to our blinkered cold-war mentality we still have a ton of forces specifically designed to fight the kind of shit Russia could bring to bear. The US’s military spending is wasteful as fuck and stupidly high, but that bloated mess of a budget buys a ton of equipment and, much more importantly, we have a much, much, much more professional military than they do—and a military that’s been continually at war for years and years and years.
There is no contest militarily between the US and Russia unless we’re trying to invade them. If it’s just blowing up shit we could blow up their shit at an immensely higher ratio than they could blow up our shit.
But where would it actually get us, what good would it actually do, what would the situation be afterwards.
And they’ve got shitloads of nukes.
523 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:01:14am |
re: #506 Decatur Deb
How long before Sen McCaine calls for a US expeditionary force? I’ll put $5.00 on “10 minutes before Meet the Press”.
He won’t have to. Russia crosses into Ukraine. Poland decides it doesn’t want to be next and heads east. NATO obligations kick in & WWIII starts.
524 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:02:11am |
re: #520 Dark_Falcon
Not gonna happen. He knows naval history quite well, and he knows how hard fighting that near your enemies bases and so far from your own is.
Not to mention that there is serious doubt that the USN will get permission to push a CVN group through the Bosporus. Therefore, any aviation basing will depend on air bases in NATO countries; e.g. Poland and so forth. That would be a major escalation in Russia’s eyes.
525 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:02:14am |
And there is the Dudebro equivalent HURR HURR!!!!! TEH JUICE CALLS SOMEONE TEH “ANTI SEMITE” WHEN THEY ARE JUST TELLING TEH TROOF ABOUT TEH JUICE!!!! CALLING SOMEONE “ANTI SEMITE” IS WORSER THAN TEH NAZIS HURR HURR!!!!!!
526 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:02:43am |
re: #523 William Barnett-Lewis
He won’t have to. Russia crosses into Ukraine. Poland decides it doesn’t want to be next and heads east. NATO obligations kick in & WWIII starts.
In your scenario, Poland decides that mounting an invasion of Russia would be its best move because…
527 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:02:50am |
re: #523 William Barnett-Lewis
He won’t have to. Russia crosses into Ukraine. Poland decides it doesn’t want to be next and heads east. NATO obligations kick in & WWIII starts.
AKA Twilight 2020…
528 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:03:00am |
re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth
McCain has already started.
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But note he does rule out military action.
re: #518 Decatur Deb
Well shit. I was going to buy a Bitcoin with that fiver.
Well, I could let you bet that McCain won’t use this to hammer the administrations plans for defense cuts. But I’d feel bad about taking your money, for he surely will so hammer, and he should, too.
529 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:03:56am |
re: #523 William Barnett-Lewis
He won’t have to. Russia crosses into Ukraine. Poland decides it doesn’t want to be next and heads east. NATO obligations kick in & WWIII starts.
Still got your topos of the Main crossings?
530 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:04:03am |
re: #521 Pie-onist Overlord
Here are some HURR HURR LIBRULS IS TEH INTOLERANTS!!!!!!
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When you call homosexuals, pedophiles, damn right I’m going to call you a bigot.
When you stereotype an ethnic group, damn right I’m going to call you a bigot.
When you blame women for being raped, damn right I’m going to call you a bigot.
I could go on and on but despite what conservatives believe about liberals, we don’t call them bigots because they’re conservatives, we call them bigots because they act like bigoted assholes.
531 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:04:15am |
They wll totally do that, Ben, no need to shout.
I demand that all restaurants owned by LGBT folks serve my pro-traditional marriage organizing meetings. Because #DISCRIMINATION!!!!!1!!!!!— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 28, 2014
532 | calochortus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:05:32am |
re: #531 Pie-onist Overlord
They wll totally do that, Ben, no need to shout.
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He probably thinks they should do it for free.
533 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:05:37am |
re: #526 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
In your scenario, Poland decides that mounting an invasion of Russia would be its best move because…
Who said invade Russia? They want the Russians back in Russia so they’d be “helping” the Ukrainians - an independent allied nation. Escalation from there takes care of the rest rather like the chain of mobilization in the summer of 1914.
534 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:05:40am |
re: #531 Pie-onist Overlord
They wll totally do that, Ben, no need to shout.
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They’re not allowed to do that either little Benny, sorry if that busts your meme wide open.
535 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:05:59am |
The Black Sea Fleet (Russian: Черноморский Флот) is a large operational-strategic sub-unit of the Russian (and formerly Soviet) Navy, operating in the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea since the late 18th century. Its ships are based in various harbors of the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, while its aviation and infrastructure is based in various locations in Crimea, Ukraine and Krasnodar Krai, Russia.
It is considered to have been founded by Prince Potemkin on May 13, 1783, together with its principal base, the city of Sevastopol, Ukraine. The major shipyard is located in Mykolaiv (today in Ukraine). Expanding to the south at the end of 18th century, Russia struggled for a long time against its main rival in the region, the Ottoman Empire, with the Ottoman Navy being its main opponent in the Black Sea. The Black Sea Fleet defeated the Turks in 1790, fought the Ottomans during World War I, the Romanians during World War II, and Georgia during the 2008 South Ossetia war. The division of the fleet in 1997 became the basis of the Ukrainian Navy…
536 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:06:19am |
re: #521 Pie-onist Overlord
Here are some HURR HURR LIBRULS IS TEH INTOLERANTS!!!!!!
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@RTNspeaks Actually, I think that picture is of Michele Bachmann in her younger years. #tcot #UniteBlue
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) February 28, 2014
537 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:06:22am |
re: #508 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
Crimea has long been a base for the Soviet and later Russian Navy on the Black Sea at Sevastopol. It holds some strategic value for the Russian Navy as a significant portion of the Russian fleet is based there.
Yushchenko had previously limited the Russian access at Sevastopol to 2015, so the Russians were looking at an alternative facility in Novorossiysk. This may be related to that. Also added to the mix is that experts were saying that the Black Sea Fleet is in real bad shape without modern replacement ships.
538 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:07:03am |
re: #529 Decatur Deb
Still got your topos of the Main crossings?
Mine were all from down along the Czech boarder. Nice countryside, good for defending against channelized regimental columns.
539 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:07:09am |
re: #533 William Barnett-Lewis
Who said invade Russia? They want the Russians back in Russia so they’d be “helping” the Ukrainians - an independent allied nation. Escalation from there takes care of the rest rather like the chain of mobilization in the summer of 1914.
Oh sorry, you think Poland would invade the Ukraine, unilaterally?
540 | Mike Lamb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:08:11am |
re: #521 Pie-onist Overlord
Discrimination against gays (Muslims, blacks, Hispanics, etc) is not “disagreeing”.
541 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:08:41am |
re: #534 HappyWarrior
They’re not allowed to do that either little Benny, sorry if that busts your meme wide open.
If his group want to go into a gay-owned restaurant, sit down and order from the menu, they have that right.
If Ben & his friends start shouting slogans and harassing other patrons, the management can ask them to leave for disorderly conduct.
542 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:10:21am |
re: #508 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
That majority is only by a hair now.
Mr. Lizardo, after I pointed that out yesterday, mentioned how the Russian would likely lose their majority within the Decade.
Heck, they may have already lost it.
543 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:10:41am |
re: #541 Pie-onist Overlord
If his group want to go into a gay-owned restaurant, sit down and order from the menu, they have that right.
If Ben & his friends start shouting slogans and harassing other patrons, the management can ask them to leave for disorderly conduct.
Exactly. Nothing’s stopping Ben and his pals from going to a LGBT operated business and they should be served under the same protections that mandate that “Christian” businesses serve LGBT folks.
544 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:10:45am |
re: #537 lawhawk
Crimea has long been a base for the Soviet and later Russian Navy on the Black Sea at Sevastopol. It holds some strategic value for the Russian Navy as a significant portion of the Russian fleet is based there.
Yushchenko had previously limited the Russian access at Sevastopol to 2015, so the Russians were looking at an alternative facility in Novorossiysk. This may be related to that. Also added to the mix is that experts were saying that the Black Sea Fleet is in real bad shape without modern replacement ships.
Russia actually just started adding new ships, the first one being a new-built Kilo-class diesel-electric sub. It just arrived at Sevastopol from its builder’s yards in St. Petersburg last month.
545 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:10:54am |
I’m sure the Polish would love to have a belligerent Russia on their doorstep again for the third time in a hundred years.
Of course they’re going to do something if this turns into a full scale Ukrainian/Russian war. Is Putin that stupid? Probably not.
546 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:11:07am |
re: #541 Pie-onist Overlord
If his group want to go into a gay-owned restaurant, sit down and order from the menu, they have that right.
If Ben & his friends start shouting slogans and harassing other patrons, the management can ask them to leave for disorderly conduct.
And don’t stiff the waiters.
547 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:11:12am |
re: #539 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
Oh sorry, you think Poland would invade the Ukraine, unilaterally?
All it takes is one official to ask for it.
You obviously think people are smarter than that.
I’m looking back almost exactly 100 years and being reminded that they’re not. Pick up “The Sleepwalkers” amazon.com or “The Guns of August” amazon.com for a good reminder of just how stupid the human animal is.
548 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:11:34am |
re: #540 Mike Lamb
Discrimination against gays is not “disagreeing”.
Exactly, you can hold the belief that homosexuality is sinful, immoral, disgusting, etc all you want but if you’re operating in the public sphere of business, you have to serve gays the same way you would anyone else. To do otherwise is textbook discrimination.
549 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:12:18am |
re: #539 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
No, but they could dig the old Prometheism idea out of the vaults and start promoting insurgencies in Russia, especially in the Caucasus region.
550 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:12:27am |
Man wakes up inside a body bag at funeral home: http://t.co/OmPL3GBAvI— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 28, 2014
551 | cuzIsaidso Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:12:39am |
sidebar: Nation Review
“this feed has errors”
Yup.
552 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:13:01am |
More new Lightning II family photos from Edwards AFB, home of all 3 #F35 variants: http://t.co/ki6HHctdIR pic.twitter.com/MKymy4nAQX— Lockheed Martin (@LockheedMartin) February 28, 2014
Last surviving Lancaster bombers to fly in formation again after 50 years - http://t.co/1wv8TRW9Al— Kermit Weeks (@kermitweeks) February 28, 2014
553 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:13:07am |
UK citizens visiting or living in #Crimea urged to leave by Foreign Office http://t.co/LQvLfORiGu #Ukraine
— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) February 28, 2014
554 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:13:40am |
Crimea TV (GTRK Krym) allegedly seized by “unknown gunmen.”
555 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:14:01am |
re: #550 Gus
Hey look, nightmares made real!
556 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:14:09am |
re: #550 Gus
Man wakes up inside a body bag at funeral home
Is this the beginning of a “rabbi and a barkeep” joke?
557 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:15:12am |
re: #550 Gus
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558 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:15:43am |
What did you just say ? #euromaidan pic.twitter.com/P6Bx7lX4mm
— bruce springnote (@BSpringnote) February 28, 2014
559 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:16:26am |
re: #555 The War TARDIS
Hey look, nightmares made real!
I’ll be honest. That’s one of my biggest fears- being buried alive. I know it’s practically impossible since it’s much easier with today’s medical technology to determine if someone’s dead or not but still. Scares the hell out of me.
560 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:17:06am |
re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth
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561 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:17:26am |
re: #542 The War TARDIS
Unless they are willing to somehow ethnically cleanse 45-50% of the population, Russia’s hold will be tenuous.
Until the Russian Economy goes Turtle, at which point, it would break off. Likely along with the who Dagestan, Chechnya, and Ingushetia region. And possibly more.
Russia is having one hell of a time learning from history.
562 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:17:50am |
One of the best things in #Crimea is this secret submarine base at Balaklava - its exactly like a Bond set - http://t.co/md8yM0uCDK #Ukraine— Miles Barter (@MilesBarter) February 28, 2014
563 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:18:24am |
re: #547 William Barnett-Lewis
All it takes is one official to ask for it.
Pretty sure it’d take more than one official asking for it to launch a Polish invasion of the Ukraine.
Poland has 120,000 active military.
It would also be difficult for Poland to be ‘next’ since they don’t share a border with Russia, unless you think that Russia would non-problematically occupy the Ukraine—which just nearly broke into a civil war over the issue of Russian influence—and use that to invade Poland.
These are not realistic scenarios.
564 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:18:57am |
If only there was some sort of Western European military alliance to prevent Russian expansion into Europe. Somebody should put that together.
565 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:19:19am |
Rich Douche John Stossel: “So what if rich people have more money? They are better than everyone else!”
Yes it’s on Fox.
What these “entrepreneurs” and “jrrb creators” fail to understand is that if people are paid less than they need to survive, there will be fewer consumers of THE STUFF that the “deserving rich” are selling.
Henry Ford was an asshole in many ways, but he understood the importance of paying workers a decent wage.
566 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:19:23am |
re: #547 William Barnett-Lewis
All it takes is one official to ask for it.
You obviously think people are smarter than that.
I’m looking back almost exactly 100 years and being reminded that they’re not. Pick up “The Sleepwalkers” amazon.com or “The Guns of August” amazon.com for a good reminder of just how stupid the human animal is.
And as Putin throws more chips into the pot he gets to the point that he can’t back down since that would be the loss of face that will get him thrown out by his own supporters for being “weak”.
International politics is just like children on a playground. There is this massive illogical undercurrent of pride, boasting, bluffs, and gangs where a lot of the posturing is necessary for internal politics instead of behaving logically regarding the real situation.
568 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:19:50am |
re: #549 The War TARDIS
No, but they could dig the old Prometheism idea out of the vaults and start promoting insurgencies in Russia, especially in the Caucasus region.
Also worth remembering on that note is that Mary Shelly subtitled Frankenstein “The Modern Prometheus”.
569 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:20:18am |
570 | b.d. Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:20:34am |
re: #550 Gus
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571 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:21:57am |
re: #570 b.d.
Clearly the second hospital was a vast improvement in base care.
572 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:22:25am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
If only there was some sort of Western European military alliance to prevent Russian expansion into Europe. Somebody should put that together.
So, to be clear, you want NATO to get into a shooting war with Russia?
573 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:30:14am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
If only there was some sort of Western European military alliance to prevent Russian expansion into Europe. Somebody should put that together.
Is the French Foeign Legion available?
574 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:31:13am |
re: #573 NJDhockeyfan
Is the French Foeign Legion available?
Where are the Prussian Templars when you need them?
575 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:31:18am |
re: #564 Killgore Trout
If only there was some sort of Western European military alliance to prevent Russian expansion into Europe. Somebody should put that together.
Cool it, Killgore.
576 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:31:29am |
Guess if KT thinks NATO should get into a shooting war in the Ukraine that means NATO will get into a shooting war in the Ukraine. He’s all powerful like that.
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577 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:31:42am |
re: #572 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
So, to be clear, you want NATO to get into a shooting war with Russia?
Strawmen spontaneously combust, you know.
578 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:31:42am |
580 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:32:32am |
re: #578 Dark_Falcon
Invading France.
Or cutting a deal with Putin to partition Poland (again).
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581 | Bulworth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:33:29am |
re: #570 b.d.
I don’t go to hospitals often, but when I do, I try make sure I get out of them alive.
582 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:33:41am |
re: #580 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m thinking Germany will do its normal line of Defending Russia.
Because Germany has the moral backbone of a jellyfish.
583 | Skip Intro Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:33:43am |
re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth
McCain has already started.
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Rules out conflict with Russia? No wonder the Arizona GOP calls him a lib.
584 | Bulworth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:34:19am |
re: #571 Gus
If the dude wanted to wake up alive, that’s where he should have gone in the first place. //
585 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:34:34am |
“I want those B-47s cocked and ready by 1200 hours!”
586 | Skip Intro Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:35:58am |
re: #565 Pie-onist Overlord
Rich Douche John Stossel: “So what if rich people have more money? They are better than everyone else!”
Yes it’s on Fox.What these “entrepreneurs” and “jrrb creators” fail to understand is that if people are paid less than they need to survive, there will be fewer consumers of THE STUFF that the “deserving rich” are selling.
Henry Ford was an asshole in many ways, but he understood the importance of paying workers a decent wage.
Hey, poor people still have access to food, so STFU you goddamned commies!
587 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:36:56am |
re: #585 Gus
“I want those B-47s cocked and ready by 1200 hours!”
Going to bombard Russia with penis cakes? That will destroy their morale for sure.
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(Awaits Gus to photoshop C-130 dropping flares to now be dropping penis cakes.)
588 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:38:21am |
re: #587 Feline Fearless Leader
Going to bombard Russia with penis cakes? That will destroy their morale for sure.
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We are all penis cakes now.
589 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:39:13am |
RT, which had 0 journalistic credibility or integrity to begin with, now welcomes civilian-killing Berkut to 'tea': http://t.co/ITCABjTR3G— michaeldweiss (@michaeldweiss) February 28, 2014
590 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:39:27am |
re: #583 Skip Intro
Rules out conflict with Russia? No wonder the Arizona GOP calls him a lib.
You see, the Naval Academy made John McCain do things like learn about naval history and logistics, so he understands how dumb trying to send ships into the Black Sea to oppose Putin would be.
The most rabid of the right scoff at such “book learnin’”, unless the book in question is the Bible. And even then its only approved parts of the Bible.
591 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:39:50am |
re: #587 Feline Fearless Leader
Going to bombard Russia with penis cakes? That will destroy their morale for sure.
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командарм! There’s whipped cream everywhere!
592 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:40:52am |
re: #573 NJDhockeyfan
Is the French Foeign Legion available?
I think they’re mucking around in Africa these days.
593 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:41:00am |
The typewriters are getting oiled up. They may break out the high quality paper for this one.
UN Security Council to hold closed-door meeting at 3pm ET on #Ukraine. #UNSC— Marcelle Hopkins (@marcellehopkins) February 28, 2014
594 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:41:54am |
595 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:41:55am |
re: #565 Pie-onist Overlord
Rich Douche John Stossel: “So what if rich people have more money? They are better than everyone else!”
Yes it’s on Fox.What these “entrepreneurs” and “jrrb creators” fail to understand is that if people are paid less than they need to survive, there will be fewer consumers of THE STUFF that the “deserving rich” are selling.
Henry Ford was an asshole in many ways, but he understood the importance of paying workers a decent wage.
Then Stossel should STFU about imaginary liberal elites then if he actually believes that wealth= better person. Sorry John just shut up.
596 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:42:23am |
re: #590 Dark_Falcon
You see, the Naval Academy made John McCain do things like learn about naval history and logistics, so he understands how dumb trying to send ships into the Black Sea to oppose Putin would be.
The most rabid of the right scoff at such “book learnin’”, unless the book in question is the Bible. And even then its only approved parts of the Bible.
If God is on your side than anything is possible, isn’t that how it works? Your band alone should be able to destroy an enemy base since it worked for Joshua.
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597 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:42:35am |
OMG THIS IS THE START OF WORLD WAR THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
598 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:42:46am |
UN Security Council to hold closed-door meeting at 3pm ET on #Ukraine. #UNSC— Marcelle Hopkins (@marcellehopkins) February 28, 2014
You can close the door if you want but the Russians are still inside and know what you’re talking about
599 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:43:32am |
re: #590 Dark_Falcon
Isn’t their some agreement with Turkey on this?
600 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:43:32am |
re: #595 HappyWarrior
Then Stossel should STFU about imaginary liberal elites then if he actually believes that wealth= better person. Sorry John just shut up.
But those are the misguided ones who should be opposed since they have obviously drifted from the proper way.
:p
601 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:43:53am |
re: #598 Killgore Trout
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You can close the door if you want but the Russians are still inside and know what you’re talking about
Seriously. So silly. RU is part of the UNSC and has veto power. Derp.
602 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:45:40am |
50 or less is not “pouring into” Ukraine. Just a few adventuring trouble-makers with nothing much to do with themselves, no doubt. This is really a low for Daily Beast, but what else do you expect from them?
.@dailybeast did a story on Swedish Nazis pour into Kyiv http://t.co/pNT94KWia3— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) February 28, 2014
603 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:45:46am |
re: #601 Gus
Seriously. So silly. RU is part of the UNSC and has veto power. Derp.
I guess it’s a symbolic ceremonial thing, I can’t think of a practical purpose for it.
604 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:45:47am |
re: #599 The War TARDIS
Isn’t their some agreement with Turkey on this?
Yep, that Turkey will not permit passage of aircraft carriers through the Bosporus.
606 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:46:07am |
The French delegate should load up on a bunch of poutine and sit next to the Russian guy
607 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:46:21am |
WOW. Yahoo published a conspiracy theory about a Jew running the Ukraine protests sourced to Iran's state-run PressTV http://t.co/IuNXwcXl9m— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) February 27, 2014
608 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:47:51am |
re: #603 Killgore Trout
I guess it’s a symbolic ceremonial thing, I can’t think of a practical purpose for it.
Make-work. Job security. Look important. Etc, etc, etc. Next week they’ll announce some meeting about human rights to be held in Uganda.
609 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:48:20am |
re: #601 Gus
Seriously. So silly. RU is part of the UNSC and has veto power. Derp.
Unless there is some plan in place to corner the Soviet ambassador to the UN and give him a wedgie.
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610 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:48:22am |
re: #607 Gus
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I’m surprised that Max Blumenthal hasn’t retweeted the shit out of this.
Or maybe he has, I stopped reading his Twitter feed for my mental health.
611 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:49:41am |
Perhaps a compromise with the Russians is possible.
They get Crimea, and in return, the rest of Ukraine ultimately becomes part of the EU and falls under NATO’s umbrella. Not an actual NATO member state, mind you; rather NATO will guarantee Ukraine’s security and territorial integrity.
612 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:50:20am |
re: #610 Pie-onist Overlord
I’m surprised that Max Blumenthal hasn’t retweeted the shit out of this.
Or maybe he has, I stopped reading his Twitter feed for my mental health.
Back to cooking while you await the verdict on the experimental pie?
My cooking experiment this weekend is working with some vegetable stock that I made last night. Will probably use it to make a pot of soup, or possibly get some *good* cheese this time and take another shot at risotto.
613 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:50:33am |
614 | kirkspencer Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:50:48am |
re: #526 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
In your scenario, Poland decides that mounting an invasion of Russia would be its best move because…
Jumping into this late, but I just suggested this scenario on another list.
First the why: Gazprom. Oh, and Poland has already been supportive (with some suggestions of material and manpower assistance) of Euromaidan. But the latter may be part of the former. A separate Ukraine means major gas resources provided by someone other than the near-monopoly of European Russia. Oh, and the pipes are already in place.
With that in mind, then, the question becomes “is it worth it?” Rephrased, would Poland consider a unilateral entry? My guess, only if it thought the EU or the US (or both) would come to its assistance once they pulled the trigger. And bluntly I don’t know but I can’t rule it out.
615 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:50:51am |
616 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:50:52am |
re: #610 Pie-onist Overlord
I’m surprised that Max Blumenthal hasn’t retweeted the shit out of this.
Or maybe he has, I stopped reading his Twitter feed for my mental health.
Look at this garbage antisemitic ad I came across on .@YahooNews. pic.twitter.com/KHawqjJ20L— Gus (@Gus_802) February 28, 2014
617 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:51:30am |
Jen Rubin continues to prove her salary at WaPo is wasted money:
Jennifer Rubin compares Obama's 'My Brother's Keeper' initiative to failed Arizona anti-gay bill SB 1062: http://t.co/XrRsjEOBPe— Media Matters (@mmfa) February 28, 2014
618 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:51:35am |
Yahoo. Heh. I usually avoid Yahoo news at all costs for many reasons.
619 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:52:32am |
re: #612 Feline Fearless Leader
Back to cooking while you await the verdict on the experimental pie?
My cooking experiment this weekend is working with some vegetable stock that I made last night. Will probably use it to make a pot of soup, or possibly get some *good* cheese this time and take another shot at risotto.
Here is the pie:
It’s an Almond Cream Pie with a chocolate brownie bottom layer instead of a crust. I will add the whipped cream topping this afternoon before we eat it.
620 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:52:50am |
re: #611 Dr Lizardo
Perhaps a compromise with the Russians is possible.
They get Crimea, and in return, the rest of Ukraine ultimately becomes part of the EU and falls under NATO’s umbrella. Not an actual NATO member state, mind you; rather NATO will guarantee Ukraine’s security and territorial integrity.
Right after the EU and NATO proves that they won’t do it for the sake of the Crimea.
Though I expect the partition you mention above is the most likely scenario since it’s close to fait accompli now and is least likely to escalate into a shooting war at the present time. How the Russians handle becoming a minority in the Crimea over the next decade is simply another ticking time bomb in their basket.
621 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:52:55am |
re: #611 Dr Lizardo
Perhaps a compromise with the Russians is possible.
They get Crimea, and in return, the rest of Ukraine ultimately becomes part of the EU and falls under NATO’s umbrella. Not an actual NATO member state, mind you; rather NATO will guarantee Ukraine’s security and territorial integrity.
Let them keep their base in Crimea until 2042. Which I think was the previous agreement.
622 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:53:06am |
re: #605 Decatur Deb
Not a penis cake:
The comments are pretty funny.
Deborah Elston
Too bad the penis mold is circumcised. Otherwise you could do an anteater cake.
623 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:53:20am |
re: #618 Gus
Yahoo. Heh. I usually avoid Yahoo
newsat all costs for many reasons.
FTFY. Yahoo sucks. It has sucked for ages. It’s not worth anyone’s time.
624 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:53:21am |
As if we need evidence that RT is ridiculous.
Putin needs badass bikers to deliver stuff for him?
#Ukraine: #Russia state media: #Putin aligned biker gang to deliver weapons to #Crimea's #Russia-backed insurgents pic.twitter.com/OarJn6PUnm
— East of Brussels (@EastOfBrussels) February 28, 2014
625 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:54:19am |
re: #619 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the pie:
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It’s an Almond Cream Pie with a chocolate brownie bottom layer instead of a crust. I will add the whipped cream topping this afternoon before we eat it.
kinda looks like a mood ring.
627 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:55:47am |
re: #623 Lidane
FTFY. Yahoo sucks. It has sucked for ages. It’s not worth anyone’s time.
Especially since they started to include links to Ann Coulter, Daily Caller and Breitbart et al in their top news story feed.
628 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:55:53am |
So apparently it’s Friday and the RWNJs are still freaking out about penis cakes.
629 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:56:16am |
re: #625 Backwoods_Sleuth
kinda looks like a mood ring.
Maybe it will turn blue when I put it on the table!
630 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:56:39am |
re: #628 Gus
So apparently it’s Friday and the RWNJs are still freaking out about penis cakes.
They just haz a sad because we know where to get penis cakes and they don’t.
631 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:57:52am |
re: #630 Backwoods_Sleuth
They just haz a sad because we know where to get penis cakes and they don’t.
I know one thing. If I was gay and were to pick a cake for my marriage ceremony it would not be a penis cake.
632 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:59:03am |
re: #620 Feline Fearless Leader
Russian would hold power over the others until the Russian economy suffers some sort of massive hiccup.
Would then revert to Ukraine.
633 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:59:12am |
re: #621 Gus
Let them keep their base in Crimea until 2042. Which I think was the previous agreement.
Yes, that is per the terms of the agreement.
The Russians are engaged in empire building; that needs to be curtailed. I’m just not sure of entirely the best way to do so. Economically would be the best way.
If the Saudis and the Qataris could either increase production or lower their price, say down to $50 - $60 p/bbl, that would hurt the Russians, and badly. Their entire budget is basically predicated on oil at the $100 - $115 p/bbl level.
The Saudis may well be the only ones who could afford to do that over a sustained period, say 18 to 24 months, and I know…..OPEC would likely not go along with it.
Also, need to find a way to end Russia’s monopoly on natural gas to Europe; that would really hit them in the pocketbook.
The Russians would find it’s not so easy to build an empire when your economy is plunged into a major recession.
634 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 9:59:46am |
Pick a wedding cake that is. Who the hell picks a penis shaped cake for a wedding cake anyway?
635 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:00:03am |
Russian vice-admiral declares war with Ukraine in Crimea, reports @censor_net. For real? Can he do that?http://t.co/eaU0LbGJgu— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2014
636 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:00:31am |
I am wondering if some of the LGF war hawks are ready to lead the attack against Putin and the Russian military. Some appear to be a bit unhappy that America isn’t acting more trigger happy and sending out saber rattling missives.
Maybe they can all get behind John “America is not the Policeman of the World” McCain who’ll most likely be ready to lead the whole thing due to his vast military experience in places like the middle east where all his warring has been so successful.
637 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:01:10am |
re: #633 Dr Lizardo
Yes, that is per the terms of the agreement.
The Russians are engaged in empire building; that needs to be curtailed. I’m just not sure of entirely the best way to do so. Economically would be the best way.
If the Saudis and the Qataris could either increase production or lower their price, say down to $50 - $60 p/bbl, that would hurt the Russians, and badly. Their entire budget is basically predicated on oil at the $100 - $115 p/bbl level.
The Saudis may well be the only ones who could afford to do that over a sustained period, say 18 to 24 months, and I know…..OPEC would likely not go along with it.
Also, need to find a way to end Russia’s monopoly on natural gas to Europe; that would really hit them in the pocketbook.
The Russians would find it’s not so easy to build an empire when your economy is plunged into a major recession.
Yes and no. Ukraine can charge Russia “rent” for running their pipelines through the country. They’re not going to give that up. It’s a good revenue generator for Ukraine. They need the money.
638 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:01:22am |
re: #634 Gus
Pick a wedding cake that is. Who the hell picks a penis shaped cake for a wedding cake anyway?
Yeah, apparently that is only for bridal showers of straight women.
HOW DO I GO BACK TO NOT KNOWING THAT.
639 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:01:53am |
re: #634 Gus
Pick a wedding cake that is. Who the hell picks a penis shaped cake for a wedding cake anyway?
Someone who is very horny.
640 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:02:52am |
re: #636 ObserverArt
Military action is right out.
The US and Russia both have nukes, along with Britain, and France.
Any war with Russia would have an extreme risk of going hot quickly, turning the world into a real-life version of Fallout.
However, we should find a way to undermine Russia’s economy.
641 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:05am |
re: #638 Pie-onist Overlord
Yeah, apparently that is only for bridal showers of straight women.
HOW DO I GO BACK TO NOT KNOWING THAT.
Sadly, you don’t.
642 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:06am |
re: #627 Backwoods_Sleuth
Especially since they started to include links to Ann Coulter, Daily Caller and Breitbart et al in their top news story feed.
Well yeah. But I don’t like them on principle. I had to kill my Yahoo account years ago when my email became overrun with ludicrous amounts of spam. I’d get hundreds of mails daily that were almost all spam. Some of them were even supposedly from my own Yahoo address.
Killing my Yahoo account and switching to Gmail was an immediate improvement. I haven’t looked back since.
643 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:10am |
644 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:31am |
645 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:41am |
Ukraine isn’t about to shut down those pipelines.
646 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:03:50am |
re: #637 Gus
Especially after Yanukovych and his thugs stole $70 Billion.
647 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:04:17am |
re: #640 The War TARDIS
Military action is right out.
The US and Russia both have nukes, along with Britain, and France.
Any war with Russia would have an extreme risk of going hot quickly, turning the world into a real-life version of Fallout.
However, we should find a way to undermine Russia’s economy.
That’s really the only way to deal with them; crash their economy. A lot of their military is pretty decrepit, and they are trying to rebuild it.
Hobbling Russia’s economy would ultimately prevent that.
648 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:05:24am |
649 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:05:29am |
Google “Rainbow Wedding Cake” and there are so many beautiful pictures. :)
650 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:05:39am |
Ukrainian international airline says it has cancelled flights to #Crimea because “airspace is closed” -Reuters— LBCI News English (@LBCI_News_EN) February 28, 2014
651 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:06:02am |
re: #631 Gus
I know one thing. If I was gay and were to pick a cake for my marriage ceremony it would not be a penis cake.
Especially if I were a lesbian…
652 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:06:08am |
re: #646 The War TARDIS
Especially after Yanukovych and his thugs stole $70 Billion.
Better for them to generate their own revenue and avoid the IMF as much as possible. Taking on IMF loans has been a bad omen for many countries in the past.
653 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:06:30am |
re: #647 Dr Lizardo
Also, start supporting seccessionists within Russia. Forgot that.
654 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:06:31am |
re: #644 Pie-onist Overlord
That’s not bad, but I think this is on track to being what the inside of the cake looks like:
Preferably made using a rainbow cookie recipe though.
655 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:06:41am |
re: #647 Dr Lizardo
That’s really the only way to deal with them; crash their economy. A lot of their military is pretty decrepit, and they are trying to rebuild it.
Hobbling Russia’s economy would ultimately prevent that.
The problem with that is that it could potentially put nukes as well as other weapons up for grabs. I’m not sure that’s a great idea.
656 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:07:10am |
Idaho professor asks lawmakers to clarify campus gun bill: ‘When may I shoot a student? ’ http://t.co/G1oKU20vJL— Eric W. Dolan (@EWDolan) February 28, 2014
657 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:07:19am |
re: #652 Gus
Oh god yes.
There needs to be a less-parasitic replacement for the IMF that isn’t obsessed with the hyper-free market ideology.
658 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:07:22am |
Apparently forcibly commited to psych unit >> Report: Richie Incognito Admitted To Care Unit For Counseling http://t.co/XIU13Ldocw— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 28, 2014
People ask if Cruz should be investigated for this. Senate ethics comm has sole discretion to probe or not. http://t.co/G3OBTleyir— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) February 28, 2014
659 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:07:28am |
re: #644 Pie-onist Overlord
If I was planning a gay wedding I would want a cake that looked like this:
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I don’t know. If you rotate that cake until you’re looking at the flowers straight on, do they make the shape of a penis?
660 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:08:40am |
re: #659 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Well, any multi-tiered cake will have some phallic resemblance for those who want to make that association.
661 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:10:54am |
re: #655 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that it could potentially put nukes as well as other weapons up for grabs. I’m not sure that’s a great idea.
Fair point, and one possible unforeseen consequence; either a desperate and broke Russian state quietly starts selling nukes to the highest bidder or offers its services to whoever’s got the $$$.
I’m surprised North Korea hasn’t tried that yet - it sounds like the kind of harebrained scheme they’d try to pull off. Maybe they just manufacture for other powers/groups interested in crossing the nuclear threshold, though I think the North may want to get their own nukes all in good working order first and build up a little stockpile.
662 | calochortus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:10:55am |
re: #644 Pie-onist Overlord
If I was planning a gay wedding I would want a cake that looked like this:
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Heck, that would be nice at any wedding-gay or straight.
663 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:10:57am |
OMG! OMG! OMG! THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF WWIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
664 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:11:16am |
re: #654 lawhawk
That’s not bad, but I think this is on track to being what the inside of the cake looks like:
Preferably made using a rainbow cookie recipe though.
That looks nice but probably made with nasty food coloring.
It is possible to create a rainbow cake using only natural coloring. The colors will be less vibrant than red #40 but at least they will not be toxic.
RED=Beets
ORANGE=Carrots
YELLOW=Saffron
GREEN=Spinach
BLUE=Blueberries
VIOLET=Blackberries
665 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:12:22am |
re: #663 Gus
OMG! OMG! OMG! THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF WWIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. It’s the beginning of the beginning of the beginning. And then we’re all Muslims and crypto Communists. /
666 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:12:36am |
re: #634 Gus
No one. It’s a stupid ass bachelorette party thing. If you’re going to the trouble of having a wedding cake and a reception, then chances are you’re looking at a standard wedding cake with flowers or other such decorations. Pretty, not stupid.
But in the fevered brains of homophobic assholes, all gay men do is have sex and think about it every single moment, so everything they do is overtly sexual.
Which bolsters my thesis that homophobes are just REALLY closeted people who are pissed off that they have to sneak around or repress their sexuality.
667 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:13:52am |
Russian vice-admiral declares war with Ukraine in Crimea, reports @censor_net. For real? Can he do that?http://t.co/eaU0LbGJgu— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2014
Russian military vehicles, and some say helicopters, now all over Crimea. Are they hoping Ukrainians shoot first?#provokatsiya
— Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum) February 28, 2014
668 | kirkspencer Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:14:56am |
re: #664 Pie-onist Overlord
That looks nice but probably made with nasty food coloring.
It is possible to create a rainbow cake using only natural coloring. The colors will be less vibrant than red #40 but at least they will not be toxic.
RED=Beets
ORANGE=Carrots
YELLOW=Saffron
GREEN=Spinach
BLUE=Blueberries
VIOLET=Blackberries
Cranberries or pomegranates instead of beets. The red in those is much brighter.
669 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:15:12am |
re: #667 Justanotherhuman
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That certainly may be the case, trying to goad the Ukrainians to fire first.
670 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:15:20am |
What, no vote for full repeal?
House GOP will vote (again) to delay Obamacare's individual mandate: http://t.co/xxrtZ46I7P— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 28, 2014
671 | dog philosopher Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:15:35am |
Tea Party Is 5 Years Old!
and it acts like it
672 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:15:49am |
re: #666 A Mom Anon
No one. It’s a stupid ass bachelorette party thing. If you’re going to the trouble of having a wedding cake and a reception, then chances are you’re looking at a standard wedding cake with flowers or other such decorations. Pretty, not stupid.
But in the fevered brains of homophobic assholes, all gay men do is have sex and think about it every single moment, so everything they do is overtly sexual.
Which bolsters my thesis that homophobes are just REALLY closeted people who are pissed off that they have to sneak around or repress their sexuality.
The homophobes think more about gay sex than anyone else. They’re obsessed with it, and it’s been my experience than when people constantly talk about some particular subject, it’s because they can’t get it out of their minds.
674 | Justanotherhuman Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:16:29am |
Putin's logic for crimea http://t.co/rps6N4qzft |PR News #euromaidan #ukraineprotests pic.twitter.com/q5yDuIn6dg— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) February 28, 2014
675 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:16:52am |
676 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:17:40am |
re: #667 Justanotherhuman
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The Russians could well provoke a military response from the Ukrainians, and use that as a casus belli.
It’s the oldest trick in the book. The next oldest trick is “If you can’t provoke a response, make one up!”.
See: Gleiwitz Incident.
677 | dog philosopher Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:17:41am |
678 | wrenchwench Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:18:15am |
679 | GunstarGreen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:18:44am |
re: #528 Dark_Falcon
But note he does rule out military action.
Well, I could let you bet that McCain won’t use this to hammer the administrations plans for defense cuts. But I’d feel bad about taking your money, for he surely will so hammer, and he should, too.
Because what we need right now, what with our AMAZINGLY AWESOME ECONOMY and all, is to be pissing away money fighting other peoples’ wars half a freaking world away.
THE DEFICIT THE DEFICIT THE DEFICIT THE DEFICIT THE DEFICIT….
680 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:18:46am |
re: #673 Kragar
Well, fuck fuckety fucking fuck.
And Penis Cake, Penis Cake, Penis Cake to you, too.
681 | Kragar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:19:10am |
re: #678 wrenchwench
Back at work?
Well, that is part of it. I actually found out they unfucked something, so it was a pleasant surprise, then I started checking the news.
683 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:20:57am |
So Russia MFA saying told Ukraine amb moved some troops to Crimea to protect Black sea Flt? http://t.co/rgEPyBzOdO http://t.co/sLQOmtNFzF— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) February 28, 2014
684 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:21:01am |
re: #675 Gus
Oh man, that is AWESOME. I wasn’t even paying attention.
(all hail the Dark Lord, etc, etc,)
685 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:21:32am |
re: #665 lawhawk
No. It’s the beginning of the beginning of the beginning. And then we’re all Muslims and crypto Communists. /
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. Nor is it the end of the beginning. But it is, perhaps, the beginning of the end of the beginning.” - Winston Churchill, never.
686 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:23:01am |
687 | Targetpractice Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:23:02am |
688 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:23:53am |
re: #666 A Mom Anon
No one. It’s a stupid ass bachelorette party thing. If you’re going to the trouble of having a wedding cake and a reception, then chances are you’re looking at a standard wedding cake with flowers or other such decorations. Pretty, not stupid.
But in the fevered brains of homophobic assholes, all gay men do is have sex and think about it every single moment, so everything they do is overtly sexual.
Which bolsters my thesis that homophobes are just REALLY closeted people who are pissed off that they have to sneak around or repress their sexuality.
Don’t be silly. Everyone knows all gays are exactly like the most extreme examples ever photographed at any Gay Pride Parade, anywhere, assless chaps and all.
689 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:24:28am |
re: #687 Targetpractice
“Some”?
Well, considering the amount of ground troops RU has available it’s “some.”
690 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:25:52am |
re: #689 Gus
Does anyone have that picture of a Russian soldier looking up the barrel of an AK-47? I can’t seem to find it.
691 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:27:41am |
I wonder how this will affect the Rights Putin worship?
692 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:28:18am |
re: #690 The War TARDIS
Does anyone have that picture of a Russian soldier looking up the barrel of an AK-47? I can’t seem to find it.
Not handy. BTW, that was from well before Sochi. Also, it’s not uncommon to inspect a rifle barrel that way from what I understand.
693 | Kragar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:28:21am |
re: #691 GeneJockey
I wonder how this will affect the Rights Putin worship?
“This is how a real President acts!”
694 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:28:57am |
re: #692 Gus
Yeah, but it a good picture to poke fun at.
695 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:30:08am |
re: #693 Kragar
“This is how a real President acts!”
They do tend to admire forceful action.
It must be time to switch from ‘Obama Is Just Like Hitler’ to ‘Obama Is Just Like Chamberlain’ again.
696 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:30:36am |
re: #691 GeneJockey
I wonder how this will affect the Rights Putin worship?
As long as Putin remains anti-gay, the American RWNJs will worship at his altar.
697 | Kragar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:31:25am |
Idaho professor asks lawmakers to clarify campus gun bill: ‘When may I shoot a student?’ | The Raw Story http://t.co/MR7y8BtBXL— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 28, 2014
“I had never considered bringing a gun to work until now,” the professor said. “But since many of my students are likely to be armed, I thought it would be a good idea to even the playing field.”Hampikian noted that the campus murder rate was currently zero, saying that guns don’t kill people - people with guns do.
“Which is why encouraging guns on campus makes so much sense,” he said. “Bad guys go where there are no guns, so by adding guns to campus more bad guys will spend their year abroad in London. Britain has incredibly restrictive laws — their cops don’t even have guns! — and gun deaths there are a tiny fraction of what they are in America. It’s a perfect place for bad guys.”
698 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:32:27am |
First giant penis cakes, now this RT @itvnews: World's largest aircraft unveiled http://t.co/YdfP0d1IAi pic.twitter.com/ftg046vcgA— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 28, 2014
699 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:32:40am |
Anti-gay activist predicts marriage equality will be just as deadly as China's Cultural Revolution http://t.co/pjpixioLCh— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 28, 2014
700 | calochortus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:34:54am |
re: #696 Dr. Matt
As long as Putin remains anti-gay, the American RWNJs will worship at his altar.
Not necessarily. Some of them seem pretty confused as to how to feel about Putin. They await instructions.
701 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:35:40am |
re: #700 calochortus
Not necessarily. Some of them seem pretty confused as to how to feel about Putin. They await instructions.
More shirtless selfies!
702 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:35:46am |
re: #700 calochortus
Not necessarily. Some of them seem pretty confused as to how to feel about Putin. They await instructions.
HE IS A REAL MANLY MAN BUT OBAMA IS A SISSY GIRL!!!!!!
703 | HappyWarrior Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:37:37am |
re: #699 Lidane
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Explains why Canada has had that. Oh wait. Seriously, these people are fucking hysterics. Letting gays get marry won’t do a damn except ruin their already fragile egos.
704 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:38:09am |
re: #701 GeneJockey
More shirtless selfies!
Those aren’t ‘selfies’, someone else took those posed photos of Putin.
705 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:38:42am |
re: #704 Dark_Falcon
Those aren’t ‘selfies’, someone else took those posed photos of Putin.
Everyone’s a critic.
706 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:38:58am |
re: #704 Dark_Falcon
Putin screams “closet case.”
707 | wrenchwench Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:40:10am |
re: #699 Lidane
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The current revolution will be within the conservative movement. I don’t think it will be deadly, but there are going to be some careers cut short. And I can’t predict the winner, other than the Democrats.
708 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:40:14am |
HURR HURRR!!!!
?? #tcot Never liked the Marxist Putin at least he is not a pussy like Obama @MorganCarlston— A Federal Farmer (@AFederalFarmer) February 28, 2014
709 | dog philosopher Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:40:50am |
freeps
1938 all over again. If Russia can invade and take a sovereign, independent country at will, no country that was formerly in their sphere of influence is safe. Expect massive hand wringing from Obama and company
…
The situation in Ukraine is unstable. And Russia is obligated to protect not only its bases but to ensure the safety of the Russian population on the peninsula.
When there is anarchy and lawlessness in a neighboring state, you have to call out the troops to prevent further bloodshed.
…
Moscow is going to hand out Russian passports to any one on the peninsula.
The Russian State Duma is drafting a federal law allowing any region that wishes to join Russia to do so either through plebiscite or through a decision of its Parliament.
Giving the Crimea legal grounds to accede to Russia.
Putin is sitting in the catbird seat right now playing the new rulers in Kiev and those in the West for fools.
…
NO more like beginning of World War 1
I doubt Vlady give rat*** what Obama thinks
…
Never ever forget, Putin plays chess. Obama plays.
711 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:42:16am |
re: #708 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURRR!!!!
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So, let me get this straight - Obama’s a pussy who’s going to take all the guns away and force “Christian” bakers to sell giant penis cakes for naked gay weddings?
712 | wrenchwench Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:42:19am |
Praising Brewer for vetoing Arizona’s Anti-Gay bill is like giving the Medal of Honor to your uncle Frankie for saying,”Not a good idea” to the suicide bomber on the news.
More here.
713 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:43:24am |
714 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:44:15am |
Ukraine Telecom is saying Crimea’s telephone connections have been cut off
715 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:44:30am |
re: #711 GeneJockey
So, let me get this straight - Obama’s a pussy who’s going to take all the guns away and force “Christian” bakers to sell giant penis cakes for naked gay weddings?
AND HE IS TOTALLY TEH MOAST HITLERY HITLER WHO EVER HITLERED!!!!!
History repeating itself!! If you don't see it you're a sheep!! #tcot #RedNationRising #UniteBlue #nerdland pic.twitter.com/o0VJD9XSfE— YoungConservative (@steve0423) February 28, 2014
716 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:45:06am |
UK foreign office asks British citizens to leave #Crimea: http://t.co/oWHXVeYkcM #Ukraine— Iyad El-Baghdadi (@iyad_elbaghdadi) February 28, 2014
Crimea situation alarming. Russia must immediately withdraw forces it controls to agreed base area. Simferopol is clearly outside this area— Carl Bildt (@carlbildt) February 28, 2014
717 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:45:10am |
re: #714 Aqua Obama
Time for sanctions.
718 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:45:25am |
re: #451 Feline Fearless Leader
That “To Kill A Mockingbird” is on those lists is something I always am sort of upset about. All I can imagine for the most part is that the main plot hits too close to home with a bunch of people and makes them butthurt.
Atticus Finch is right up there with Samwise Gamgee and Reepicheep as some of my top 10 fictional heroes.
719 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:45:39am |
Russia has effectively closed the airspace over Crimea.— joshuafoust (@joshuafoust) February 28, 2014
720 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:45:58am |
Spidey sense telling me that Crimea is being “annexed.”
721 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:46:56am |
re: #469 Pie-onist Overlord
Instead of “voted off the island” they get stoned.
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Everybody must get stoned! (/dylan)
723 | Pie-onist Overlord Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:47:32am |
Glenn Beck gave out the spoiler to the new Liam Neeson movie and he’s telling his fans to spam it all over Twitter.
724 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:47:34am |
Anyone else getting a strong whiff of bullshit/propaganda/bad reporting from all the “yoga matt” headlines?
Group warns almost 500 products contain chemical found in yoga mats
I’m all for reducing the amount of additives in food but the yoga matt meme is odd. Why do they hate yoga matts?
725 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:47:43am |
In Crimea…
#Crimea MT @BalmforthTom One of Simferopol's 3 synagogues last night graffitied with 'death to Jews', swastikas pic.twitter.com/ZB3A3qQkYO— Jenny Mathers (@jgmaber) February 28, 2014
726 | Dr Lizardo Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:47:50am |
re: #718 chadu
Atticus Finch is right up there with Samwise Gamgee and Reepicheep as some of my top 10 fictional heroes.
1984 also gets blacklisted a good deal, as does The Handmaid’s Tale. Generally, the reason is because of sexual content.
Personally, I think it’s because the wingnuts think, “Oh, shit! If people read this, they’ll figure out what we’re up to!”
727 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:48:17am |
re: #716 Gus
Scandinavia is one of the most Anti-Russia places on the planet. Not only that but, Sweden punches way above their size.
728 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:48:56am |
re: #484 Pie-onist Overlord
MOAR DERP
Yes, you have the right to boink whoever you like. But now I am forced to fund & celebrate it.
Coo, mang. I saw this cute lady at the supermaret with a “KEEP CALM AND DON’T BLINK” tee shirt, and I was planning on asking her out, so can you spot me fiddy bucks for dinner and a moobie? Tanks.
729 | b.d. Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:49:10am |
re: #720 Gus
Spidey sense tell me Crimea is being “annexed.”
I haven’t seen the phrase historical claims used in a while, time to polish off that old chestnut.
730 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:49:24am |
re: #720 Gus
Spidey sense tell me Crimea is being “annexed.”
I wanted to use Mr. Peabody’s joke that “Crimea doesn’t pay,” but could not come up with anything humorous in the situation.
And yet again, we have one of those situations where the Right will claim that Putin did this because Obama is ‘weak’, yet if asked what they think he SHOULD do, they’ll stare at their shoes.
731 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:49:48am |
re: #722 Gus
This must be condemned in no uncertain terms.
//
Peacefully, of course. Let’s not go crazy and bother them too much.
732 | Kragar Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:50:09am |
Putin to welcome the Sudetanland, ahem, Crimea to the Russian Republic #Ukraine— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 28, 2014
733 | Dr. Matt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:50:26am |
re: #723 Pie-onist Overlord
Glenn Beck gave out the spoiler to the new Liam Neeson movie and he’s telling his fans to spam it all over Twitter.
I’m sure Wiki already has the entire storyline published.
734 | calochortus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:50:35am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
Anyone else getting a strong whiff of bullshit/propaganda/bad reporting from all the “yoga matt” headlines?
Group warns almost 500 products contain chemical found in yoga mats
I’m all for reducing the amount of additives in food but the yoga matt meme is odd. Why do they hate yoga matts?
Because no chemical that is ever used by a liberal elite should show up in your food?
735 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:50:49am |
re: #729 b.d.
I haven’t seen the phrase historical claims used in a while, time to polish off that old chestnut.
Russia justs need more Lebensraum.
736 | b.d. Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:51:11am |
re: #722 Gus
This must be condemned in no uncertain terms.
//
Charge of the Light Brigade of Sanctions
737 | sagehen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:51:24am |
re: #730 GeneJockey
I wanted to use Mr. Peabody’s joke that “Crimea doesn’t pay,” but could not come up with anything humorous in the situation.
And yet again, we have one of those situations where the Right will claim that Putin did this because Obama is ‘weak’, yet if asked what they think he SHOULD do, they’ll stare at their shoes.
I’ve been trying to come up with joke about the Charge of the Light Brigade (that was Crimea, right? Or am I histoically illiterate?)… but I can’t manage to make it funny.
738 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:52:02am |
re: #731 Killgore Trout
Peacefully, of course. Let’s not go crazy and bother them too much.
We could do what JFK would have done which is surround them with tactical nukes and then force a compromise.
//
739 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:52:24am |
re: #737 sagehen
I’ve been trying to come up with joke about the Charge of the Light Brigade (that was Crimea, right? Or am I histoically illiterate?)… but I can’t manage to make it funny.
Yes, that was the Crimean War. The first, and ideally only Crimean War.
740 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:52:39am |
Ukraine's Channel 5 TV reports that telephone hubs in Crimea have been blocked http://t.co/lH9gBOb4pH— joshuafoust (@joshuafoust) February 28, 2014
741 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:52:40am |
re: #734 calochortus
Because no chemical that is ever used by a liberal elite should show up in your food?
The Association of Holistic Stretchers is going to be pissed about all this anti-matt rhetoric.
742 | sagehen Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:52:47am |
re: #736 b.d.
Charge of the Light Brigade of Sanctions
beat my reference by 13 seconds… and you found the funny.
743 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:53:23am |
So, my book is still sitting at 4 reviews on Amazon, and the publisher need 5 to fiddle with whatever promotional tools they have, and I’ve been thinking about it.
…Aaaaand I realized that before my move from VA to PA, I had promised a friend a review of one of her books*, and that fell by the wayside during the insanity of the move.
Given that what goes around, comes around, I know what I’m doing this weekend! ;)
* Cool SF about an AI “cruise director” on a spaceship. I got about halfway through it before the walls came down. Anywho, Queen of Roses —
short form: check it out; long form: COMING SOON!
744 | Lidane Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:53:29am |
re: #715 Pie-onist Overlord
I have a coffee mug somewhere that I found years ago that said “If You’re Not Completely Appalled, You’re Not Paying Attention”. I bought it during the 2004 election year along with a bunch of other political kitsch.
Funny thing is, it turned out to be an Alex Jones bit of merch. Oops. But at least it held all the loose change in my purse just fine. Heh.
745 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:54:15am |
The topic of Cougars AKA Mountain Lions AKA Pumas came up earlier this week, and so I think I should post this:
11-year-old girl shoots cougar hunting her older brother
An 11-year-old girl shot dead a hungry cougar that was stalking her 14-year-old brother at their rural ranch Thursday in Twisp, Washington.
Shelby White is no stranger to hunting and when she noticed her older brother, Tanner, was in danger, she grabbed her rifle and snapped into action. Shelby, who has a permit to kill cougars, cracked off a shot as the 50-pound female cougar started following Tanner into the house, and the beast fell dead, New York Daily News reports.
Shelby has been hunting since she was eight-years-old and bags a deer every year. Her weapon of choice is her .234-caliber rifle. She favors it because of its mild recoil.
But Shelby isn’t the only one in the family with a pension for hunting. Shelby’s grandfather, 64-year-old William White, said Tanner recently bagged a 125-pound cougar after it killed one of their calves.
There are photos, but I’m not posting them. Seeing a big cat shot dead bothers me, a lot. And I know I may lose my Conservative Card for saying this, but I don’t think a Mountain Lion should be shot for killing livestock. They’re too rare for that. Attacking a person, however… That girl did the right thing.
746 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:54:38am |
Crimean residents film invading Russian helicopters, set video to the music from “Red Alert.” Yep. Actually happened. http://t.co/zvVrtcnkA4— Drunk Predator Drone (@drunkenpredator) February 28, 2014
747 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:54:43am |
re: #738 Gus
We could do what JFK would have done which is surround them with tactical nukes and then force a compromise.
//
Lies! JFK was a radical peacenik who was killed by the Military-Industrial Complex when he refused their warmongering.
/Ollie Stone
748 | ObserverArt Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:55:30am |
re: #643 Dark_Falcon
Read the thread and find out.
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I’ve read the thread Dark, and my comment was based on it.
We already have the snickering about the UN and NATO. We have the link to where McCain is saying Putin knows America is weak.
So there can only be one option to some of that correct?
How the hell does anyone here know what is going on in the back room discussions and the communications between the US, Europe, Russia and China?
Ah yes…China. What happens if China says they back the US, Europe and want Russia to get back into Russia and shut the hell up.
War now is fought over economic power. Even Putin knows that. And as I have commented recently, Putin might not be real interested in dealing with this as he too knows he needs the economic power he hoped the Olympics would bring as far as making Russia look good to the entire world. I really don’t think he wants anyone thinking bad Vlad right now. Sure, he can send in some troops to see what a little bullying gets him, or to judge the reactions of others.
But I do have a question for you Dark, since you like McCain. What purpose does it serve for him to say anything like America is weak?
I suggest cheap political points as always with him anymore. From a military and power standpoint it serves noting and just might in fact be dangerous. McCain sickens me any more. It’s time to put his tired ol’ ass out to pasture. And I used to admire the guy.
749 | GeneJockey Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:55:35am |
re: #745 Dark_Falcon
The topic of Cougars AKA Mountain Lions AKA Pumas came up earlier this week, and so I think I should post this:
11-year-old girl shoots cougar hunting her older brother
There are photos, but I’m not posting them. Seeing a big cat shot dead bothers me, a lot. And I know I may lose my Conservative Card for saying this, but I don’t think a Mountain Lion should be shot for killing livestock. They’re too rare for that. Attacking a person, however… That girl did the right thing.
What makes you think they’re rare?
750 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:56:55am |
re: #503 Dr. Matt
What do teabaggers spew this “liberal tolerance” meme? I freely admit I have zero tolerance for the radical far-right fools that plaque the political landscape.
I’ve been seeing “your tolerance is actually intolerance of my intolerance, HURR HURR, LIBTARD!” popping up more and more.
751 | kirkspencer Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:58:57am |
re: #743 chadu
So a possibly stupid question, but why isn’t your book (amazon link) linked to your LGF nick?
752 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:59:11am |
Russia currently harboring Viktor Yanukovych and Edward Snowden.
753 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:59:47am |
re: #727 The War TARDIS
Scandinavia is one of the most Anti-Russia places on the planet. Not only that but, Sweden punches way above their size.
Sadly, the Russian Air Force seriously schooled their Swedish counterparts last year:
Russian Tu-22M Backfire bombers escorted by Su-27 Flankers simulate night attack on Sweden.
However, on Mar. 29, the two Tu-22M3 Backfire heavy bombers, capable to carry cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, and their four Su-27 Flanker fighter jets escort got dangerously close to the Swedish airspace and, at 2 AM local time, they skirted Gotland island, some 30-40 kilometers off the Swedish territorial waters.
After they carried out their mock attacks (on targets in the Stockholm area and Southern Sweden, according to Swedish military sources who talked to Svenska Dagbladet) they turned back and returned towards Russia.
The episode is similar to those Soviet Union’s exercises typical of the Cold War, when bombers carrying the typical Red Star flew quite close to the Swedish airspace boundaries and got intercepted by Swedish interceptors. Such “visits” ended in 1992 but returned in 2011 when Putin resumed the long-range flights of its strategic bombers.
Although some Tu-22M3 Backfire bombers flew over the Baltic Sea in the last year, what’s unusual in Mar. 29 incident is that the Russian activity took place at night and, above all, it found the Swedish Air Force totally unprepared.
Even if at least two JAS-39 Gripen should always be in QRA (Quick Reaction Alert) and ready for take off in case of alarm, quite surprisingly there were no interceptors ready on Good Friday night.
The Swedes are not going to be likely to bother Russia till they get their readiness problems sorted out, which may take money Sweden isn’t willing to spend.
754 | A Mom Anon Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:07:09am |
re: #745 Dark_Falcon
Holy moly Dark, you and I agree on something involving guns and conservancy. I won’t tell anyone though, lol. Seriously though, mountain lions are so beautiful, and if humans had not taken up lots of their hunting spaces they wouldn’t be killing cows or whatever. Same goes for wolves. But yeah, if one attacks one of my kids or grandkids or any person, I’m going to take the shot, even if it hurts me to do it.
755 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:07:09am |
re: #526 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
In your scenario, Poland decides that mounting an invasion of Russia would be its best move because…
756 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:11:32am |
re: #590 Dark_Falcon
You see, the Naval Academy made John McCain do things like learn about naval history and logistics, so he understands how dumb trying to send ships into the Black Sea to oppose Putin would be.
The most rabid of the right scoff at such “book learnin’”, unless the book in question is the Bible. And even then its only approved parts of the Bible.
Is there much naval warfare in the Bible?
Truly, it is the Book of Books!
757 | Aqua Obama Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:16:33am |
re: #753 Dark_Falcon
What did Sweden ever do to anybody?
758 | Gus Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:17:04am |
759 | Teukka Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:17:28am |
re: #753 Dark_Falcon
Sadly, the Russian Air Force seriously schooled their Swedish counterparts last year:
Russian Tu-22M Backfire bombers escorted by Su-27 Flankers simulate night attack on Sweden.
The Swedes are not going to be likely to bother Russia till they get their readiness problems sorted out, which may take money Sweden isn’t willing to spend.
The issue with the lack of readiness of the Swedish Air force has to do with the financial policies of the administration since ‘06. For quite some time, sources in the Swedish military forces have warned that the economical cuts are too hard, that they doubt they can hold an attacker off for more than a day.
And the military is not the only ones who have suffered, far from it.
760 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:20:05am |
re: #759 Teukka
And guess what?
Right-Wing Government. Also, apparently, the hippies in the Left Party and Green Party are dead set against restoring the military.
Hoping the Next Government is a Social Democrat-Centre Govt.
761 | Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:22:05am |
re: #756 chadu
Is there much naval warfare in the Bible?
Truly, it is the Book of Books!
Jonah and the whale is an analogy to operational use of submarines to destroy an enemy’s maritime economy.
//
762 | Backwoods_Sleuth Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:25:49am |
re: #743 chadu
I’m trying to grab hubby’s kindle while he’s home…
763 | chadu Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:26:47am |
re: #751 kirkspencer
So a possibly stupid question, but why isn’t your book (amazon link) linked to your LGF nick?
Hubba-wha?
Seriously, I’m missing a trick here.
(Not a stupid question, but probably a stupid me over here. ;) )
764 | Teukka Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:28:31am |
re: #760 The War TARDIS
And guess what?
Right-Wing Government. Also, apparently, the hippies in the Left Party and Green Party are dead set against restoring the military.
Hoping the Next Government is a Social Democrat-Centre Govt.
Yup. You’d be horrified at where the money to pay for the tax cuts for the rich came from here.
And I’m not so sure about a SocDem govt., things are looking like this election cycle will be the dirtiest in ages.
765 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:31:40am |
re: #764 Teukka
Leaving the moonbats from the Left Party and Green out of government is a must.
766 | Teukka Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:36:12am |
re: #765 The War TARDIS
Leaving the moonbats from the Left Party and Green out of government is a must.
Problem is that either or both might become big enough to have a valid demand for seats.
767 | William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:45:03am |
re: #745 Dark_Falcon
Good awareness and shooting.
Typical reporters though - that’s a .243 Winchester, not .234. Very nice chambering for anything up to deer sized game. I’ve been considering getting one for hunting the wily 300 Meter distant paper plate. Perfect for this situation as well.
768 | The War TARDIS Fri, Feb 28, 2014 11:56:20am |
re: #766 Teukka
This is why I am a Social Democrat.
Go any farther to the left, and you have the freaking hippies of the Left Party, or the completely out of touch Greenies.
769 | kirkspencer Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:00:02pm |
re: #763 chadu
Hubba-wha?
Seriously, I’m missing a trick here.
(Not a stupid question, but probably a stupid me over here. ;) )
I’ve forgotten how, but you can ‘make your nickname blue’ and make it go directly to your designated home page. If you click mine, for example, it goes to my non-gaming blog. (thought it was a radio button but don’t see it.)
That way instead of two clicks (your avatar, then the link you’ve got there) it’s a single click.