Video: Why Bernie Sanders Is Actually Winning
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“Everyone I know personally is voting for Bernie Sanders, therefore, we can assume all 475 delegates in CA are going to him.”
Totes legit
I, for one, look forward to casting my vote in the CA primary.
Yep. That pretty much nails the one Bernie supporter that I know. She’s president of the local College Democrats, very idealistic, a wonderful person, but totally blind to reality in this area.
RBS
“The Democrats have treated Bernie very badly and frankly I think he should run as an independent,” Trump said, as some in the crowd booed.
Thanks for making your play obvious, in the open, and way too soon, you dipshit.
That was great. I hate to mock people I agree with on most issues but damnit Berners your guy lost. I’m sorry but he did. You can bitch about the system or you can actually work within the system to make it better. Change starts locally. Start working or hell maybe even run yourself for local office. Tip O’Neill had it right when he said all politics was local. Even Bernie seemed to get that at one point when he started out on Burlington’s town council.
re: #6 Testy Toad T
Thanks for making your play obvious, in the open, and way too soon, you dipshit.
He’s not, very smart.
re: #2 Kragar
“Everyone I know personally is voting for Bernie Sanders, therefore, we can assume all 475 delegates in CA are going to him.”
The Sanders supporters I know (or knew, they’ve mostly warmed up to reality) were so vitriolic that I was unwilling to make known to most of them my support of Clinton.
Outreach!
“I’m, like, a very smart person…”
The Clueless Candidate.
re: #9 Testy Toad T
The Sanders supporters I know (or knew, they’ve mostly warmed up to reality) were so vitriolic that I was unwilling to make known to most of them my support of Clinton.
Outreach!
You’re lucky. My Facebook feed has a lot of bitter crap. Now OTOH my Dad who did vote for Bernie in the VA primary has already warmed up to Clinton, hell he’s always warmed up to her. He just voted his heart and he kind of wanted to give my kid brother who is too young to vote a bit of a voice and I respect that since he understands the big picture. I suspect most Bernie voters are like him but we see the loud mouth minority who aren’t. Those are the ones that gave him the caucus wins though.
re: #4 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I, for one, look forward to casting my vote in the CA primary.
yeah we matter! LOL.
Physics! pic.twitter.com/1QmdDmNsrY
— Science GIFs (@Learn_Things) April 23, 2016
I have a lot of sympathy for those Bernie fans who had hope for him but instead watched him become a bitter and angry old man who has made a mockery of all that they believed he stood for.
For those Bernie Bros who now want to sneer about how Hillary was “mean” to them and she needs to make nice with them before they’ll even consider voting for her, I’ve only four words: Go fornicate with yourselves.
re: #11 Stanley Sea
A very beautiful kitty! Precious, so precious.
Donald parroting Bernie’s unqualified comment. THANKS BERNIE.
My favorite recent Twitter follow, 89 year old retired longtime Congressman John Dingell:
Ted Cruz desecrates classic movie scene by calling hoop a “basketball ring” https://t.co/GUrYKenvYx pic.twitter.com/78dEteVWzx
— Gawker (@Gawker) April 27, 2016
Holy hell. I’m not supposed to laugh this hard at my age. Basketball ring. https://t.co/I2WDF8GASj
— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) April 27, 2016
He called it a basketball ring.
— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) April 27, 2016
“I’m not a hateful person. I’m a person that loves people. And make America great again.” Real quote from Trump, who’s like a smart person
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) April 27, 2016
re: #14 HappyWarrior
You’re lucky. My Facebook feed has a lot of bitter crap. Now OTOH my Dad who did vote for Bernie in the VA primary has already warmed up to Clinton, hell he’s always warmed up to her. He just voted his heart and he kind of wanted to give my kid brother who is too young to vote a bit of a voice and I respect that since he understands the big picture. I suspect most Bernie voters are like him but we see the loud mouth minority who aren’t. Those are the ones that gave him the caucus wins though.
My Dad voted for Bernie in the Florida primary. He wanted to change his party affiliation to Rep. in order to, as he put it, “Force that shit sandwich Trump down their throat”, but he has no issues what so ever voting for Hillary. As he said, “I like Bernie, but Hillary is still orders of magnitude better than anything they have.”
RBS
Chris Christie is standing behind Trump staring into the middle distance and nodding as if he still has a human soul. Amazing.
— David Simon (@AoDespair) April 27, 2016
compare to mary pat, behind trump pic.twitter.com/LS8uSVSLK9
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) April 27, 2016
lol
Hell, the Bernie Bros have practically declared Sanders the ‘presumptive nominee’ and he’s losing…
Trump declares himself GOP ‘presumptive nominee,’ despite being short of required delegates. https://t.co/qCTIGviAOS pic.twitter.com/iXQH1zBKAr
— AJE News (@AJENews) April 27, 2016
re: #21 bratwurst
My favorite new Twitter follow:
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It’s understandable. Canada only has a single NBA franchise.
The most shared story at DailyKos
Bernie Sanders wins Rhode Island Democratic primary
What bubble?
re: #30 FormerDirtDart
If Drumpfskind wins Indiana next week then it is over.
re: #18 Targetpractice
I have a lot of sympathy for those Bernie fans who had hope for him but instead watched him become a bitter and angry old man who has made a mockery of all that they believed he stood for.
For those Bernie Bros who now want to sneer about how Hillary was “mean” to them and she needs to make nice with them before they’ll even consider voting for her, I’ve only four words: Go fornicate with yourselves.
As funny as it sounds since I have been quite critical of him here the past couple months, I’m actually in Category A. I didn’t actually vote for Clinton. I still had a lot of reservations about her but she’s sold me. I really wanted Bernie to be a voice for the issues that Clinton may not touch on or may not have added a lot of beef to. So thus I welcomed Bernie’s entrance to the race and in spite of the fact that registered Democrats should only be able to see that party’s nomination, I am glad he ran but I’ve lost a lot of respect for him over these past months. I really hope he becomes a better leader after this and hey maybe we get back the Senate and Bernie can be a key part of a key Clinton initiative. I’d like that for Bernie, I’d like that for our country more of course.
re: #21 bratwurst
My favorite recent Twitter follow, 89 year old retired longtime Congressman John Dingell:
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I am glad Dingell seems to be enjoying his retirement. He finished up his time in Congress as the longest tenured Congressman ever.
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— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) April 27, 2016
re: #34 freetoken
If Drumpfskind wins Indiana next week then it is over.
I see Indiana as a good state for him.
re: #21 bratwurst
Imagine being the person who was able to tell that to Obama first. I want to see a YouTube of that.
re: #35 HappyWarrior
I really hope he becomes a better leader after this and hey maybe we get back the Senate and Bernie can be a key part of a key Clinton initiative. I’d like that for Bernie, I’d like that for our country more of course.
I think the last few months have demonstrated that Sanders may be many things, but a leader ain’t it.
I believe the ship has sailed.
One thing though I want progressives in the Democratic party to stop doing, stop seeing people as presidential material only because their voting record is something you like. There’s a lot more to that office than voting record and while I commend Bernie’s voting record, it doesn’t tell the whole story. Bernie voting no on the Iraq War resolution doesn’t make him better on more knowledgeable of FP than Clinton. I’ll be the first to say that I think Clinton was wrong with that vote but in the end it just doesn’t make him better on FP despite what oyu think.
“Virtually every expert says what Hillary did was a criminal act.”
Shoot…was writing a close out the evening comment in the last thread and missed a new one starting…so…here ‘t’is.
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All I can think of now is an old TV show when I was very young.
Donald Trump…This is your life!
And I am now prepared to watch his whole life of being an asshole brought up before America’s eyes and ears.
The Republicans laid off him because they never thought it would come to this and when they did try, they were really scared to attack him, his past and his character because he was good at turning his supporters into attack dogs and the rest of the GOP candidates cowered. And Rinsed Pubes was scared to chase any GOP voters for Trump because he knew he needed them.
I do not think the Democrats and the Clinton Machine will be fearful of just flat out using the truth against him. And they know the Trump backers will be Trump backers. They now need to see how many Independents and Republicans they can sway with the ugly truth of the Big Orange Dump Trump.
One thing that will be interesting to watch is how hard he will try to go after a woman with his prickly shtick. He needs to watch that as a lot of women will not take kindly to his straight out usual big mouth big bully attack methods.
And with that …good evening LGFers!
re: #38 HappyWarrior
I see Indiana as a good state for him.
It’s hard to say. The midwest seems to have a seething visceral hatred for The Donald’s brash and boorish nature, but Indiana is a weird, churchy pocket of the midwest.
re: #40 Testy Toad T
I think the last few months have demonstrated that Sanders may be many things, but a leader ain’t it.
I believe the ship has sailed.
True. He’s getting up there in age anyhow. I hate to sound ageist but that’s always been on my mind this whole time. That this guy is the same age as Reagan was during the middle of Iran-Contra. I don’t think Bernie has dementia or early Alzheimers but I’d be lying if I said that Bernie’s age wasn’t an issue.
re: #45 Testy Toad T
It’s hard to say. The midwest seems to have a seething visceral hatred for The Donald’s brash and boorish nature, but Indiana is a weird, churchy pocket of the midwest.
True. I think it’ll be close but I’m going to predict that Donald wins there but it’s close.
re: #18 Targetpractice
They get that sh*t from Sanders who has said he has “conditions” for supporting Clinton. All “conditions” gets you is a dem loss in November and an empty-headed tool like Trump in the WH who will alienate every nation and politician on the planet with his bullying tactics. Hell, if his current behavior pattern continues should he ever be POTUS, he’ll be on Twitter so much blasting away at any/everyone who dares criticize him that he could never govern effectively. The main thing I hate about most GOP/TPers is their tendency to choose appearance/optics over substance, followed by their failure to accept that they keep voting losers into positions of power and expecting their lives to change dramatically. After Trump wins the GOP/TP nomination, I won’t hold my breath waiting for GWB to hit the campaign trail on his behalf. GWB knows he’s toxic even if the GOP/TPers will never admit it. Oh, he’ll probably do some private fundraisers, but I just don’t see him traveling the country and campaigning for Trump and reminding us what a disaster his two administrations were for the nation and the world.
re: #35 HappyWarrior
Like an acquaintance on FB said when I asked: what will you do if Bernie doesn’t get the nomination but urges you to support Hillary?
Turn the channel.
Pretty much sums up Bernie.
re: #46 HappyWarrior
True. He’s getting up there in age anyhow. I hate to sound ageist but that’s always been on my mind this whole time. That this guy is the same age as Reagan was during the middle of Iran-Contra. I don’t think Bernie has dementia or early Alzheimers but I’d be lying if I said that Bernie’s age wasn’t an issue.
Yeah, I’ve heard chatter of a unity ticket and I basically laughed in peoples’ faces. Their combined age is like 145.
Hey @SenSanders, remember when you lied & said Hillary called you unqualified so you said she was? Trump is now quoting your senile ass.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) April 27, 2016
DeRay McKesson is in 6th place in the Democratic primary for Mayor of Baltimore, with less than 3% of the vote.
He’d be WINNING the GOP primary.
What they’re saying about Trump in China. https://t.co/VCsqGqkmTM pic.twitter.com/VfLRqEsVIA
— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) April 27, 2016
CHYYYNA
re: #35 HappyWarrior
As funny as it sounds since I have been quite critical of him here the past couple months, I’m actually in Category A. I didn’t actually vote for Clinton. I still had a lot of reservations about her but she’s sold me. I really wanted Bernie to be a voice for the issues that Clinton may not touch on or may not have added a lot of beef to. So thus I welcomed Bernie’s entrance to the race and in spite of the fact that registered Democrats should only be able to see that party’s nomination, I am glad he ran but I’ve lost a lot of respect for him over these past months. I really hope he becomes a better leader after this and hey maybe we get back the Senate and Bernie can be a key part of a key Clinton initiative. I’d like that for Bernie, I’d like that for our country more of course.
I’d like to say I agree with those sentiments, but unfortunately, I think it’s far more likely that Bernie Sanders is going to go back to the Senate post-convention/election as that body’s Designated Grumpy Old Crank: probably even more full-of-himself - and even less-likely to significantly cooperate with the despised “Dem Establishment” after all the campaign adulation. A *leader* ?? Why should he start now?
re: #43 ObserverArt
Drumpfskind presents a defeat for the old “conservative” coalition, which is why they hate him so much.
Drumpfskind is running as a populist in the GOP tent. He is neither a Kochite Libertarian, nor is he an authentic member of the religious right.
But on two populist issues Drumpfskind has built his campaign:
1) hate the other;
2) military victory.
Drumpfskind was smart enough to know that plying those two aspects of “America” would go farther as a Republican than as a Democrat (today, anyway.)
So Drumpfskind took the xenophobic armchair-warrior vote away from the institutional Republicans.
It has been brilliant. Drumpfskind really is quite good at the politics game.
re: #53 Testy Toad T
Yeah, I’ve heard chatter of a unity ticket and I basically laughed in peoples’ faces. Their combined age is like 145.
It’s a terrible idea especially for a party and ideology that is about change and the future. And I have to say the age factor does mean something. It does. I know Bernie hasn’t had cancer like McCain did but damn he’s up there in age. The best thing Clinton can do for a running mate is someone younger. I’m going to keep on pushing Julian Castro. I think Julian would be an excellent VP.
Can’t wait to hear how Rhode Island is the Oracle at Delphi of Democratic politics.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) April 27, 2016
re: #59 Jay C
I’d like to say I agree with those sentiments, but unfortunately, I think it’s far more likely that Bernie Sanders is going to go back to the Senate post-convention/election as that body’s Designated Grumpy Old Crank: probably even more full-of-himself - and even less-likely to significantly cooperate with the despised “Dem Establishment” after all the campaign adulation. A *leader* ?? Why should he start now?
Yeah I concede I was showing some of my idealism there. I think you’re right unfortunately about that. We’ve seen what happened after McCain remained in the Senate while the person who beat him became presidency. Some have suggested giving Bernie a cabinet post or agency to run, well if he wants it, it wouldn’t kill me but I honestly don’t know how good he’d be at it.
re: #64 goddamnedfrank
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re: #65 HappyWarrior
Yeah I concede I was showing some of my idealism there. I think you’re right unfortunately about that. We’ve seen what happened after McCain remained in the Senate while the person who beat him became presidency. Some have suggested giving Bernie a cabinet post or agency to run, well if he wants it, it wouldn’t kill me but I honestly don’t know how good he’d be at it.
There’s gotta be some dinky ambassadorship or equivalent of Sector 7G he can be nominated to.
Here we go
Trump on Clinton: “The beautiful thing is that women don’t like her.”
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) April 27, 2016
re: #68 Stanley Sea
All the women Trump talks to don’t like her.
re: #59 Jay C
I wouldn’t be upset if he lost his senate seat.
The first result when I Google image search “Berniebro + naïveté”:
Just braying.re: #68 Stanley Sea
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The beautiful thing Donald is those women are going to be part of why you’re only going to be visiting the White House in your deluded dreams.
BREAKING: Clinton is projected winner in Connecticut Dem primary https://t.co/oNXWD3JdM8 #Decision2016 pic.twitter.com/GHbK6khNP5
— NBC News (@NBCNews) April 27, 2016
re: #68 Stanley Sea
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And this is why I’m really not worried about Trump vs Clinton. His misogyny is going to be yuuuuuuuuuuge.
Hillary’s total primary vote lead has now passed the 3,000,000 mark.
Just wanted to repost this from downstairs:
Title says it allre: #64 goddamnedfrank
Visions cause by hallucinogenic vapors are as good an explanation for Sanders support as anything else @goddamnedfrank
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 27, 2016
re: #70 GlutenFreeJesus
I wouldn’t be upset if he lost his senate seat.
What would actually be interesting is if the Dems did run someone against him and all the left wing types crying foul play even though they wanted (and I concede were right about wanting Lieberman out). Leahy is just as progressive as Bernie is but he’s a team player which you know is something you want out of an elected party official.
re: #74 Belafon
And this is why I’m really not worried about Trump vs Clinton. His misogyny is going to be yuuuuuuuuuuge.
I fully expect him to call her a bitch on tape, probably at a rally but quite possibly at a debate. He can’t help himself.
re: #67 Brian J.
There’s gotta be some dinky ambassadorship or equivalent of Sector 7G he can be nominated to.
Ambassador to Sweden?
re: #79 Testy Toad T
I fully expect him to call her a bitch on tape, probably at a rally but quite possibly at a debate. He can’t help himself.
I still figure he’ll call her a Citizen United at some point, if you know what I mean.
re: #79 Testy Toad T
I fully expect him to call her a bitch on tape, probably at a rally but quite possibly at a debate. He can’t help himself.
I expect that will happen at some point. I don’t see Cruz or Kasich being stupid enough to say it.
re: #74 Belafon
And this is why I’m really not worried about Trump vs Clinton. His misogyny is going to be yuuuuuuuuuuge.
yep
Trump ends his presser with this: If Hillary Clinton were a man, she’d get only 5% of the vote.
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) April 27, 2016
re: #81 Brian J.
I still figure he’ll call her a Citizen United at some point, if you know what I mean.
That wouldn’t shock me either. Really for someone well educated, Trump acts very uneducated. Proof that having a world class education doesn’t mean jack shit if you’re a pathetic jackass.
On a related note about Hillary running for office: I know how to spell misogyny. The y in the middle of the word drives my brain nuts, but I now put it in the right place. I kept trying to swap it with the i.
re: #76 BlueSpotinAL
Just wanted to repost this from downstairs:
What’s worse, cold water or Goldwater?
I’ll see myself out…
re: #83 Stanley Sea
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Yeah Donald, a two term Senator and former Secretary of State would just do awful. If you actually were running for the nomination of a party whose voters weren’t abject morons, you’d be lucky to get 1% but you’re running as a Republican.
re: #86 De Kolta Chair
What’s worse, cold water or Goldwater?
I’ll see myself out…
In your guts you know he’s nuts.
If they don’t then the rest of of the Party should hold them equally responsible for the damage he’s selfishly inflicting from here on out.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) April 27, 2016
Someone isn’t paying attention…
Here’s how close the race was in Connecticut between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders: https://t.co/2yEUBv2b0p pic.twitter.com/1R4ddzk5Zy
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) April 27, 2016
Moments later…
JUST IN: @HillaryClinton wins the CT primary #SuperTuesday https://t.co/2yEUBv2b0p
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) April 27, 2016
The very smart people over at 538 (and not just there) can be remarkably … let’s say “tardy in acceptance”… when it comes to certain topics, like “race”:
FARAI CHIDEYA 10:33 PM
[…]
The 2016 American electorate is the most racially diverse ever, and it may also be the most ideologically divided. Two-thirds of Republican voters support Trump’s plan to ban Muslims from entering the United States. As we noted earlier on the liveblog, new voter registrations among Latino Americans in California have doubled, probably in response to Trump’s persistent calls for a border wall and his statement that Mexicans are rapists.
[…]
Substantially, the idea of “race” is very outdated. And concepts like “Latino” really never fit with old ideas of race anyway.
Oh, and Clinton now has a 2,000,000-vote lead on Trump for primary season. With California and New Jersey in hand.
re: #91 freetoken
The very smart people over at 538 (and not just there) can be remarkably … let’s say “tardy in acceptance”… when it comes to certain topics, like “race”:
FARAI CHIDEYA 10:33 PM
Substantially, the idea of “race” is very outdated. And concepts like “Latino” really never fit with old ideas of race anyway.
I think so many Americans are woefully ignorant of how diverse the Latino population is. It’s not all due to bigotry. It’s just not understanding that all a Hispanic-American really is one who has his or her family roots in the former Spanish or Portuguese colonies. I can’t wait for my niece to be older and shock people with her Spanish.
re: #85 Belafon
On a related note about Hillary running for office: I know how to spell misogyny. The y in the middle of the word drives my brain nuts, but I now put it in the right place. I kept trying to swap it with the i.
What I do (seriously) is remember the first i in mithril.
Yes, I am a compleate nerd.
re: #93 Reality Based Steve
Bernie for Benelux?
RBS
That’s mine. I’m in Bruges for the beer and Amsterdam for the “coffee.”
Brian Williams with Hugh Hewitt on MSNBC. A microcosm of a tragically broken media.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 27, 2016
re: #79 Testy Toad T
I fully expect him to call her a bitch on tape, probably at a rally but quite possibly at a debate. He can’t help himself.
I bet that after one or two debates he refuses to share a stage with her any more, as much because of the stuff he can’t stop himself from saying as for the stuff she says to him. He’s going to make a total ass of himself.
Lord. MaryPat rolled her eyes at Trump’s comment about the woman card. Wow.
re: #98 stpaulbear
I bet that after one or two debates he refuses to share a stage with her any more, as much because of the stuff he can’t stop himself from saying as for the stuff she says to him. He’s going to make a total ass of himself.
He’ll make an ass out of himself but the assholes that make up the GOP will love it and applaud him for being authentic even as they post stupid photo memes insisting that the Obamas have no class.
re: #98 stpaulbear
I bet that after one or two debates he refuses to share a stage with her any more, as much because of the stuff he can’t stop himself from saying as for the stuff she says to him. He’s going to make a total ass of himself.
It’s an interesting question. Will the media both-sides-do-it him to respectability, or will they demand their pound of advertising flesh?
Trump: “If Hillary Clinton were a man, she wouldn’t get 5% of the vote.”
This guy is absolutely fucking HORRIBLE.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 27, 2016
The woman who gets the job of mock debate opponent with Trump deserves some serious hazard pay. Odds are good he actually tries to bite her.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) April 27, 2016
I have to laugh at all the purer than thou lefty types who insist that the Democratic party has been moved to the right. Really because when I was born in the late 80’s. We still had Democrats who opposed legalized abortion rights. Well we still do but there are a lot more pro-choice Dems now than there were then in office. GLGBT rights? Nearly every Democratic senator supports the rights of gay couples to marry. Sort of moot I concede since SSM is legal but then I remind you that not a single Republican running supports SSM. On economics, I concede this is no longer the New Deal or Great Society Party but things have changed and I will remind those progressives that even then that the concepts behind the Great Society and New Deal were seen by many including some Democratic voting whites as only being for white people. The Democratic Party of 2016 is a diverse coalition of people. I’m sorry that white progressives feel betrayed but the fact of the matter is the party is arguably in fact more progressive than ever. You may choose not to see that but it’s there in plain sight.
Nate Silver estimates that Clinton will win 218 delegates to 166 for Sanders. That’s exactly equal to my naive estimate at the beginning of the night (the floor below downstairs). Silver’s targets for these states were Clinton 195, Sanders 189.
Wyoming, New York and the Northeast gave Clinton 42 more delegates than her targets, more than erasing the effects of Sanders’ “epic winning streak” in the western caucuses. This is for the original targets, by the way, not the revised versions after March 15 to try to find Sanders a path to victory.
re: #103 goddamnedfrank
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re: #103 goddamnedfrank
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R.B. Lovecraft.
re: #106 Brian J.
Nate Silver estimates that Clinton will win 218 delegates to 166 for Sanders. That’s exactly equal to my naive estimate at the beginning of the night (the floor below downstairs). Silver’s targets for these states were Clinton 195, Sanders 189.
Wyoming, New York and the Northeast gave Clinton 42 more delegates than her targets, more than erasing the effects of Sanders’ “epic winning streak” in the western caucuses. This is for the original targets, by the way, not the revised versions after March 15 to try to find Sanders a path to victory.
It’s frankly been an uphill battle for Bernie ever since he got wiped out in South Carolina. He did terrible there after having won NH and going neck and neck in Iowa. Bernie will go down as a candidate who simply could not compete in diverse states and that’s fatal for a candidate seeking the Democratic Party’s nomination.
re: #83 Stanley Sea
All Hillary has to do is point at Trump’s crotch and laugh-and it’ll be OVER.
spend your time arguing with people on the internet. they’ll soon see the error of their ways and completely agree with you forever and ever
— jay bentley (@jay_bentley) November 8, 2014
re: #64 goddamnedfrank
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The voters there are sitting in a cave sniffing toxic fumes?
I’m going to have serious images of Cartman and Wendy fighting on South Park when Trump and Clinton debate.
re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat
All Hillary has to do is point at Trump’s crotch and laugh-and it’ll be OVER.
Odds are his fingers aren’t the only appendages on his body that are stubby and gross.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
I have to laugh at all the purer than thou lefty types who insist that the Democratic party has been moved to the right. Really because when I was born in the late 80’s.
Well said, and from a lifelong progressive born in 1956…
Touché!re: #101 Testy Toad T
It’s an interesting question. Will the media both-sides-do-it him to respectability, or will they demand their pound of advertising flesh?
Hillary’s already shown that she can keep her cool while facing an 11-hour conservative rage-gasm. Her strongest weapon during the debates will be to remain polite and upbeat while Donald melts down in the face of the most minute bit of real-time push-back. It’ll be hard to spin that as both-sides-do-it. (though of course they’ll try).
re: #94 HappyWarrior
Numerophiles ( a disputable word, I suppose, but at least one blogger raised a good point about it) like those at 538 not rarely demonstrate a real lack of knowledge about non-numeric topics, such as history and culture.
Anyway, the concept that I want to push is the idea of cultural poles.
In a large society such as ours we will find groups of people who will cling to certain beliefs, or inherit certain customs, that make their actions as a group more determinable than if they were all just random actors.
There is a religious, Protestant, cultural pole that still pulls at many Americans.
But there are other poles of culture. As you noted, those with a deep history in Spanish America, i.e., “hispanics”, can be classified as such, but in no way are they a “race”. Rather, it’s a cultural pole (and in this case the culture includes language.)
Americans with significant portion of enslaved-Africans as ancestors often will react politically the same - witness the Clinton campaign’s skillful marketing to the group as a whole. But that again is essentially culture, not “race”. Groups like these share a historical bond, and that strongly influences the actions of the individual members of a group.
Anyway, “race” is just so out of place in discussing, well, most anything but the history of the concept itself.
Congrats to the voters of Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland, and Delaware on joining the deep south! Enjoy the cornbread.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) April 27, 2016
re: #117 De Kolta Chair
Well said, and from a lifelong progressive born in 1956
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It’s the lefty version of the right wingers white washing the past. I’ll concede their point on economics. The Democratic Party is in a different place than it was back then but it’s also a lot more socially liberal and frankly social liberalism is important. Social liberalism is what tells women they’re not sluts if they get the right to choose. Social liberalism is loving your gay friends and family. Social liberalism is welcoming immigrants of all backgrounds to your country. Social liberalism is seeing a place for the disabled in the economy.
The lack of sophistication about these issues, while expected among the audience, of, say Fox News, kind of surprises me when it appears on outlets of supposedly really smart people.
re: #120 FormerDirtDart
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Enjoy becoming Republican states too despite being reliably Democratic for a while.
The look on Mary Christie’s face when Trump said HRC is only doing well because she’s a woman … priceless
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) April 27, 2016
@mikiebarb https://t.co/pYA9ih32Qu
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re: #122 freetoken
The lack of sophistication about these issues, while expected among the audience, of, say Fox News, kind of surprises me when it appears on outlets of supposedly really smart people.
I’m telling you. One of the most useful classes I ever took was a history course about Latin America. This was way before I knew I was going to have a Hispanic niece of course but it’s also the reason why I took Spanish as my language. Spanish culture has influenced a lot of this country especially out west.
re: #123 HappyWarrior
Enjoy becoming Republican states too despite being reliably Democratic for a while.
Pennsylvania at least should know the feeling. Every four years, there’s a new Republican candidate sure that the Keystone State will go for them, yes sirree! And the media plays along, until election night.
re: #120 FormerDirtDart
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I’m not getting it. Black folks are slave owners now? The Peabody Coal Company has gone hippy? Cotton is denim and chitlins are red beans? ////
re: #6 Testy Toad T
Thanks for making your play obvious, in the open, and way too soon, you dipshit.
“It’s not enough to have a monkey wrench.
You have to know when to use it.”
Milton Ferrell
re: #118 stpaulbear
Hillary’s already shown that she can keep her cool while facing an 11-hour conservative rage-gasm. Her strongest weapon during the debates will be to remain polite and upbeat while Donald melts down in the face of the most minute bit of real-time push-back. It’ll be hard to spin that as both-sides-do-it. (though of course they’ll try).
I really think that in the debates Donald is going to try to insult Hillary off the stage in tears. It’s going to be ugly.
re: #126 Brian J.
Pennsylvania at least should know the feeling. Every four years, there’s a new Republican candidate sure that the Keystone State will go for them, yes sirree! And the media plays along, until election night.
Yeah I love how Pennsylvania will be turning Red until it never does. It’s probably music to my late grandmother’s ears. She was always a proud Democrat.
re: #127 De Kolta Chair
I’m not getting it. Black folks are slave owners now? The Peabody Coal Company has gone hippy? Cotton is denim and chitlins are red beans?
Yeah apparently. That’s what amuses me when they say “Well the CSA voted for Clinton over Bernie”, uh no the descendants of the CSA’s slaves voted for Clinton over Bernie you mean.
re: #130 stpaulbear
I really think that in the debates Donald is going to try to insult Hillary off the stage in tears. It’s going to be ugly.
I think you are right about that.
Well gang, I stayed up WAY past my bed time last night, so I’m going to pack it in this evening. Be good, and remember that you can never have too much canned trout on hand.
RBS
Who is angling for a job with the Canned Trout Advisory Board.
Warning for those with weak stomachs…
#SuperTuesday culminates the DNC sabotage of its latest revolutionary. Join us @BernieSanders in building a party where revolution can grow.
— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) April 27, 2016
re: #130 stpaulbear
I really think that in the debates Donald is going to try to insult Hillary off the stage in tears. It’s going to be ugly.
And all she has to say is “Is that all you’ve got?” Every time. And he’ll keep getting worse and worse.
re: #136 Brian J.
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I don’t know, Bernie going elsewhere sounds like a fine idea to me.
re: #133 Brian J.
No, but it has gone bankrupt.
I’m sure I wasn’t the only person who when hearing that thought of
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re: #136 Brian J.
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Yes the DNC sabotaged Bernie when its voters had the nerve to favor someone else over Bernie. Sigh I wish Stein would grow the hell up. You know what actually sabotaged Bernie? Bernie sabotaged Bernie and Bernie did it without the DNC’s help thinking that what he did as a young man during the Civil Rights era would be enough to win him the African-American vote without actually talking what he’s done in Congress.
So I’m seeing that McGrory is really having a meltdown over the backlash to the transphobic bill he signed. Oh poor you Pat. Maybe next time, don’t be a hateful asshole.
re: #136 Brian J.
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@DrJillStein @BernieSanders Democrat John Edwards did himself in.
— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) April 27, 2016
re: #114 Mattand
That mouth. Who did he kiss with it? That mouth. The worst innuendo is insufficient.
re: #138 Belafon
And all she has to say is “Is that all you’ve got?” Every time. And he’ll keep getting worse and worse.
Yep. She’ll be totally free to cheerfully kick him in the junk. He’ll lose it.
Trump says women don’t like Clinton, but public polls tell us otherwise. See data by gender here: https://t.co/AFBJIZe0Ks #GenderWatch2016
— Gender Watch 2016 (@GenderWatch2016) April 27, 2016
Wow, @TimRobbins1 must be losing his shit over all the voter fraud happening tonight in every state except Rhode Island.
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) April 27, 2016
Wow, @TimRobbins1 must be losing his shit over all the voter fraud happening tonight in every state except Rhode Island.
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) April 27, 2016
re: #142 HappyWarrior
So I’m seeing that McGrory is really having a meltdown over the backlash to the transphobic bill he signed. Oh poor you Pat. Maybe next time, don’t be a hateful asshole.
Link?
Sanders, in statement, calls Rhode Island “the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome.”
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) April 27, 2016
Team BernOut be all like
re: #150 teleskiguy
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Independents in a Democratic Primary. Isn’t that like your sister getting to choose your birthday cake?
re: #143 Belafon
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I look forward to that glorious day when the term “third party” doesn’t make me laugh out loud like a devil-may-care hyena on angel dust.
re: #150 teleskiguy
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Bernie, I again remind you that you are seeking the Democratic party’s nomination. Stop bitching about the fact that Democrats should have more of a say in who nominates their nominee than non-Democrats, it’s really pathetic and frankly you didn’t say about the caucus process which dramatically favored you. You should have told your independent supporters to register as Democrats so they could vote for you but you didn’t do that. Sorry but I’m getting fed up with Bernie. I’m tired of his whiny bullshit. It makes liberalism look bad when he does this. We’re an ideology of progress not bitter old men.
re: #150 teleskiguy
Sanders, in statement, calls Rhode Island “the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome.”
I’ll take “What should presidential campaigns know day one about the race” for $800, Alex.”
re: #152 Reality Based Steve
I don’t consider myself a fan of American Roots music, but I’ve got to leave you with this one from Patty Loveless.
Nice. I like roots mucus, as well as alt sinus canal myself. //
I’m sorry, why the fuck should independents feel like they have an entitlement to a vote in a private organization’s leadership?
re: #158 Testy Toad T
I’m sorry, why the fuck should independents feel like they have an entitlement to a vote in a private organization’s leadership?
Because they WANNA!!!
re: #156 jaunte
I’ll take “What should presidential campaigns know day one about the race” for $800, Alex.”
I mean it’s not hard. If he really thought independents mattered that much to his nomination, he should have told them to re-register as Dems so they could vote for him. Bitching about closed primaries at the end of April is pretty sad shit Bernie. How about you lose like a man or better yet how about you actually stand up to the NRA?
re: #158 Testy Toad T
I’m sorry, why the fuck should independents feel like they have an entitlement to a vote in a private organization’s leadership?
I agree very much with this. I used to be pretty pro open primaries as you know but I’m sorry but people who can’t even bothered to register for a party shouldn’t have the same in a party’s nominations as people who do take the time to register with that party and moreover want to influence that party’s direction.
re: #152 Reality Based Steve
I don’t consider myself a fan of American Roots music, but I’ve got to leave you with this one from Patty Loveless.
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RBS
I’m actually a big fan of roots music, but I have to admit that song sounds better with a male voice.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
Being president is at least as complicated as finding out the rules before the race.
re: #163 jaunte
Being president is at least as complicated as finding out the rules before the race.
Imagine if he’d spent all the money he spent on ads on voter education and GOTV.
Sotheby’s just auctioned off a landscape of a vegetable garden by Salvador Dali for 3.5 million to a private collector. Reports are it’s the highest price ever paid for a genuine Cabbage Patch Dali.
re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White
Imagine if he’d spent all the money he spent on ads on voter education and GOTV.
or if he raised money with other like minded candidates. Really for someone who wants to start a revolution, I have to say Bernie’s a bit of a dope. But then again I’ve come to see him as a bit of egotist, I mean you have to be to want this office so Clinton’s not exactly exempt from that charge and nor is Obama either but both Clinton and Obama saw that you create change by working with people. There was an article here yesterday that Bernie didn’t even bother to endorse or offer any support to John Fetterman, a candidate running for the Senate in PA. Really if Sanders supporters are upset, they should be upset with Bernie for being a selfish ass not to mention his idiotic advisers like Davine and Weaver who I wouldn’t want running my high school student senate election.
re: #155 HappyWarrior
Bernie, I again remind you that you are seeking the Democratic party’s nomination. Stop bitching about the fact that Democrats should have more of a say in who nominates their nominee than non-Democrats, it’s really pathetic and frankly you didn’t say about the caucus process which dramatically favored you. You should have told your independent supporters to register as Democrats so they could vote for you but you didn’t do that. Sorry but I’m getting fed up with Bernie. I’m tired of his whiny bullshit. It makes liberalism look bad when he does this. We’re an ideology of progress not bitter old men.
Funny thing is, the very conservative Cruz supporting shop owner I work for and I had exactly the same discussion today regarding Trump V Republicans and Bernie V Democrats. We don’t agree on much sometimes, but we do agree that in this case both parties are probably going to take a hard look at their nominating processes before the next cycle.
Now I’m really going to bed. I promise.
RBS
probably unladylike to be excited about our first woman presidential nominee, so ho hum oh well
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) April 27, 2016
re: #167 Reality Based Steve
Funny thing is, the very conservative Cruz supporting shop owner I work for and I had exactly the same discussion today regarding Trump V Republicans and Bernie V Democrats. We don’t agree on much sometimes, but we do agree that in this case both parties are probably going to take a hard look at their nominating processes before the next cycle.
Now I’m really going to bed. I promise.
RBS
I’m not sure how they can stop another Trump. He’s getting votes from the party. It’s not his fault the party members are voting for him.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
I mean it’s not hard. If he really thought independents mattered that much to his nomination, he should have told them to re-register as Dems so they could vote for him. Bitching about closed primaries at the end of April is pretty sad shit Bernie. How about you lose like a man or better yet how about you actually stand up to the NRA?
Or even better, lose like a woman, like Hilz did in 08, with grace and loyalty and total dedication to helping elect the great candidate who defeated her for the nomination.
re: #171 whitebeach
Or even better, lose like a woman, like Hilz did in 08, with grace and loyalty and total dedication to helping elect the great candidate who defeated her for the nomination.
Bernie does not strike me as that kind of mensch.
re: #171 whitebeach
Or even better, lose like a woman, like Hilz did in 08, with grace and loyalty and total dedication to helping elect the great candidate who defeated her for the nomination.
I have to admit. I did not like Clinton at all in 2008 but I respected A) the way she admitted defeat, B) worked her ass off to get Obama elected, and C) then served admirably as Secretary of State. My thoughts on Hillary Clinton as an individual and leader are night and day what they were eight years ago. I was a little upset that Obama made her SoS at first but it was the right choice.
re: #170 Schroedinger’s Dog
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I like this one better. Sounds wearier, which I think is essential to the song.
‘nighty night all, and watch out for falling rocks
re: #150 teleskiguy
Yeah. That 14,000 vote difference. Yuuuuuge! Especially when Hillary just passed 11,000,000 primary votes.
re: #142 HappyWarrior
I understand exactly why he and the others who voted for the bathroom bill are having a hard time dealing with the consequences. It’s because it never entered their minds that a likely majority of us don’t hate transgendered or LGBTQ persons. I truly believe he, and they, thought that there would be little push back on the law. It goes along with their thinking that the things they believe about A, B, C, and D, everyone in America believes the same. They are in shock to discover that things outside the bubble they inhabit are vastly different. McCrory never imagined he’d be facing the level of opposition he’s facing, or that it might negatively impact his chances of winning reelection. Nope, it never entered his mind because he probably views NC as his very own fiefdom.
re: #174 HappyWarrior
I have to admit. I did not like Clinton at all in 2008 but I respected A) the way she admitted defeat, B) worked her ass off to get Obama elected, and C) then served admirably as Secretary of State. My thoughts on Hillary Clinton as an individual and leader are night and day what they were eight years ago. I was a little upset that Obama made her SoS at first but it was the right choice.
I read an article that stated that one of her principles was to “bloom where you’re planted”. Put in the work and do your best. I think she’s shown that consistently. I did notice that you didn’t see her on the Sunday shows that often when she was in the Senate. She seemed to focus on doing her job.
re: #178 majii
I agree. I think they thought if the public were presented with a fait accompli, there would be some grumbling, but not real opposition. Hence the way it was passed under the cover of darkness, as it were, and the surprise that there would be a price to pay.
re: #169 Belafon
I’m not sure how they can stop another Trump. He’s getting votes from the party. It’s not his fault the party members are voting for him.
Might try something like “must have held public office and understand shit” or pass a test on when to and not to obstruct. Republican Horseshit 101, at least.
re: #179 Schroedinger’s Dog
I read an article that stated that one of her principles was to “bloom where you’re planted”. Put in the work and do your best. I think she’s shown that consistently. I did notice that you didn’t see her on the Sunday shows that often when she was in the Senate. She seemed to focus on doing her job.
Is that so? I really respect that about her then. I think some of my prejudice in 2008 was unfair but I think she was a much more flawed candidate then than she is now. I think losing that primary was a good thing for her in the end.
re: #181 MsJ
Might try something like “must have held public office and understand shit” or pass a test on when to and not to obstruct. Republican Horseshit 101, at least.
Well to be fair, one of their best never held public office. The problem is with the Republican party and conservative movement though that allowed a bigot like Trump to get in and do well in the first place. And Cruz has only started condemning Trump as he’s started seeing him as a threat to his own ambitions.
re: #183 HappyWarrior
Well to be fair, one of their best never held public office. The problem is with the Republican party and conservative movement though that allowed a bigot like Trump to get in and do well in the first place. And Cruz has only started condemning Trump as he’s started seeing him as a threat to his own ambitions.
It didn’t allow it…republicanism created Trump.
Caught your speech, @realDonaldTrump. About that “woman’s card”…https://t.co/kKaHWISchy
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) April 27, 2016
re: #14 HappyWarrior
He just voted his heart and he kind of wanted to give my kid brother who is too young to vote
There it is! That voter fraud the GOP has warned us about!!!111
Bernie’s path to victory now amounts to collecting as many delegates as he can and hoping that Hills gets caught in some stupid scandal that blows her general election chances enough for the supers to switch their support. It’s not going to happen. I’ll still vote for him in the primary fwiw.
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