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freetoken  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:09:56pm

The Trump crime family is way uglier.

However, I’ll point out that leading up to Watergate, the 1960’s, was full of ugliness in the American public sphere.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:11:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:13:34pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Nah, he’s one of those mini-records that only has like 10 minutes of record time on it. Can’t say much, and it doesn’t sound good to boot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:15:58pm

I would lay money on his ghost writer working on Sundays

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:19:07pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:24:32pm

Must be one of those “No Go’ zones we keep hearing about

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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:28:10pm

Has any leader of a major country cried so much in public like Big Donny Trump?

And that is in public. I can imagine how much he acts like a spoiled rotten two-year throwing a tantrum in The White House.

I guess he is not getting enough nappy time.

He needs to cut back on all those rallies needed to stroke his ego and make sure he gets his time in his little bed with the safety rails until he proves he is a big boy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:29:43pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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edit: Damn deleted tweets

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:32:11pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:34:21pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:34:43pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Tapper is probably thinking anyone that loses to Donald Trump is a not a strong party.

I have a feeling many in the media think like that. It gives them some safe space to magic balance in.

Also gives them some excuse room if anyone says the media helped elect Trump.

It sucks. I’m sick of everyone positioning so as to not look responsible. Meanwhile here we are.

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freetoken  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:37:32pm

re: #11 ObserverArt

Abuse victims, and Trump loves abusing media companies and personalities as well as the general concept of “media”, find ways to rationalize their victimhood.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:39:20pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:40:54pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Come on Jake, you know you want to call them “uppity”, you know you do…

Please tell me someone is calling out his bullshit. Like they aren’t allowed to travel around and *gasp* DANCE?!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:42:21pm

re: #11 ObserverArt

Tapper is probably thinking anyone that loses to Donald Trump is a not a strong party.

I have a feeling many in the media think like that. It gives them some safe space to magic balance in.

Also gives them some excuse room if anyone says the media helped elect Trump.

It sucks. I’m sick of everyone positioning so as to not look responsible. Meanwhile here we are.

Yep. Even now we rarely get more than a few seconds of pressers given by Pelosi or Shumer. There’s no such thing as TDS except to the extent that his daily outrages against American democratic norms take attention away from things that truly need fixing like healthcare, prison reform, the infrastructure, cyber-defense, etc. etc.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:42:46pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:43:44pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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I wonder what he learned today? He’s agitated as hell. Someone point him to a tee or a putting green.

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:44:30pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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And just a few tweets away from that one:

Wow, an EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW with Scaramucci—quite the get, Jake. How the fuck would Scaramucci know anything that’s going on? Why do they keep having this has-been never-was on all the time when he brings absolutely nothing to the party. And finally, it’s “sees” not “see’s.” For what you’re paying Scaramucci, hire a damn proofreader instead.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:46:07pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Obama will never escape criticism for anything he does…ever.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:48:34pm

well, it worked so well for newt when he tried it

Trump threatens another government shutdown — this one, a month before midterms

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The Major  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:51:19pm

re: #20 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trump threatens another government shutdown — this one, a month before midterms

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:52:49pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

The Democratic Party is the weakest it has been since the 1920s

the democratic party at its weakest since the 20s is much stronger than the republican party has been for long stretches since the 20s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:54:52pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

He’s actually upped the rhetoric another notch, saying the media are selling out the country.

Soon we will get the imagery of the dagger in the back…

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:57:10pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

There’s a real stupidity in this when you consider the fact that under normal circumstances, this is exactly what a former president and first lady should be doing… being private citizens. Former presidents, especially those who are barred from running again due to term limits, shouldn’t be at the center of American politics.

If he wants to make the argument that the apparent collapse of the Democratic Party happened under Obama, there’s a fair criticism there. They lost the House, they lost a near filibuster proof majority in the Senate, they lost a ton of governors’ offices and state legislative seats during the Obama years. And as the effective leader of the party, he probably bears some responsibility for that. But that’s is an argument that takes time and effort and research… it’s so much easier to hit the world with an emoticon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2018 • 12:58:25pm

I’d lay good odds on another government shutdown, even if only a short one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:00:50pm
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mmmirele  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:02:19pm

Billy Graham died earlier this year and this event was the trigger for the Nixon Library to release a long-suppressed (censored) passage of a conversation Graham had with Nixon on February 1, 1972. It is as ugly as you thought it might be.

During “the Latter Days,” Graham is heard to say, Jews will be divided into the “Remnant of God’s People” and “the Synagogue of Satan.” The second group consists of those Jews in league with the devil, Graham says, who “have a strange brilliance about them” and are behind “all your religious deceptions.”

Mike Hertenstein, a writer who helped take down fake warlock Mike Warnke in the early 1990s, is the author of this very long article. He doesn’t just talk about the 1972 conversation. He fits it within the context of Graham’s life, within how Jews were seen during the period, how that view shifted with World War II, the Holocaust and the Catholic Church’s partial walkback of its longtime anti-Semitism with Nostra Aetate.

If you’re evangelical, have an evangelical background, or still have any lingering respect for Billy Graham, this article is just going to torpedo it to bits. Billy Graham was as awful as the guys on Twitter today who claim “the Jews” own all of media.

medium.com

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:04:48pm

So, it looks like my 10 year old TV has given out (it was randomly turning on by itself, and now it won’t stay on). Going to have to get a new one, and am wondering if it’s worth bothering with a Smart TV if I already have an Apple TV that I use for all my viewing needs. I’ve heard nightmares where Smart TVs aren’t set up to upgrade software on streaming services and thereby render them useless, and since I’ve cut the cord, that would be a problem for me.

Don’t really see the point in paying double for features I won’t be using.

Any thoughts?

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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:08:19pm

re: #24 KGxvi

There’s a real stupidity in this when you consider the fact that under normal circumstances, this is exactly what a former president and first lady should be doing… being private citizens. Former presidents, especially those who are barred from running again due to term limits, shouldn’t be at the center of American politics.

If he wants to make the argument that the apparent collapse of the Democratic Party happened under Obama, there’s a fair criticism there. They lost the House, they lost a near filibuster proof majority in the Senate, they lost a ton of governors’ offices and state legislative seats during the Obama years. And as the effective leader of the party, he probably bears some responsibility for that. But that’s is an argument that takes time and effort and research… it’s so much easier to hit the world with an emoticon

I’d be interested in your thinking on that sentence in your comment I made bold?

Because that is a simple statement that needs some support instead of letting it hang out there.

To me there is a whole host of things that go into what happened there. And I’m thinking a lot of it didn’t have to do with what Obama did or didn’t do. Sure he had his mistakes. But he also faced crap no president has had to face and that had a lot to do with how “he” lost seats.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:08:21pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Two actually. Check Consumer Reports to see how well the new TVs rate. Also go to amazon and see what is on sale.

consumerreports.org

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:08:27pm

democratic socialism

trumpykins and other “conservatives” fail to realize that the majority of young people in this country get a real thrill out of somebody daring to run as a socialist - just like the 27% got its trangressive thrill hearing the orange entity run as an out-and-out racist

the more they shout “venezuela, venezuela” the more we get a thrill out of shocking them

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Danack  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:08:37pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Any thoughts?

What model is your dead/dying tv?

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:10:20pm

re: #32 Danack

What model is your dead/dying tv?

Toshiba flat screen, HD capable, not sure the size, 48” maybe?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:11:38pm

At the Reagan. Shit Sean Spicer is here.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:13:53pm

Can I contain my snark attack mode?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:15:04pm

re: #24 KGxvi

the apparent collapse of the Democratic Party

more apparent than real. it’s a classic case of how to lie with statistics

the fact is that the republican party has often been far weaker overall since the 20s than the democratic party is now

for starters, look at the huge majorities the democratic party had in congress in the 30s and the 60s

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:15:07pm

re: #28 KGxvi

So, it looks like my 10 year old TV has given out (it was randomly turning on by itself, and now it won’t stay on). Going to have to get a new one, and am wondering if it’s worth bothering with a Smart TV if I already have an Apple TV that I use for all my viewing needs. I’ve heard nightmares where Smart TVs aren’t set up to upgrade software on streaming services and thereby render them useless, and since I’ve cut the cord, that would be a problem for me.

Don’t really see the point in paying double for features I won’t be using.

Any thoughts?

Pretty much any decent 4K TV is going to come with Smart TV features, so just because you aren’t using them doesn’t mean you’re paying extra for them. What you’re paying for is picture quality.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:17:12pm

re: #28 KGxvi

So, it looks like my 10 year old TV has given out (it was randomly turning on by itself, and now it won’t stay on). Going to have to get a new one, and am wondering if it’s worth bothering with a Smart TV if I already have an Apple TV that I use for all my viewing needs. I’ve heard nightmares where Smart TVs aren’t set up to upgrade software on streaming services and thereby render them useless, and since I’ve cut the cord, that would be a problem for me.

Don’t really see the point in paying double for features I won’t be using.

Any thoughts?

You’d not really be paying “double” for a smart TV these days, it’s now the default option; plain old TVs (especially large ones) are going the way of the dodo. TCL (who has sets with Roku functionality built-in) and Vizio (who tends to keep their TV apps updated fairly well) are pretty good and usually very reasonably priced.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:21:43pm
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freetoken  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:22:39pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Perhaps he’s really constipated today?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:23:11pm

re: #40 freetoken

Perhaps he’s really constipated today?

What, no golf on Sundays?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:23:47pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That is probably why he is tweeting so much.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:25:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:27:56pm
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retired cynic  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:29:03pm

re: #27 mmmirele

That’s not a problem for me. I had no respect for Billy Graham during his lifetime, and have less for his son now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:29:58pm

re: #31 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

democratic socialism

trumpykins and other “conservatives” fail to realize that the majority of young people in this country get a real thrill out of somebody daring to run as a socialist - just like the 27% got its trangressive thrill hearing the orange entity run as an out-and-out racist

the more they shout “venezuela, venezuela” the more we get a thrill out of shocking them

They would love to convince these idealists that they do not need to support the Democrats.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:32:01pm

re: #29 ObserverArt

I’d be interested in your thinking on that sentence in your comment I made bold?

Because that is a simple statement that needs some support instead of letting it hang out there.

To me there is a whole host of things that go into what happened there. And I’m thinking a lot of it didn’t have to do with what Obama did or didn’t do. Sure he had his mistakes. But he also faced crap no president has had to face and that had a lot to do with how “he” lost seats.

I want to be clear, I don’t think he bears the majority of blame for the current state of the party. And based on what we’ve seen since 2016, I think the Democratic Party is not really in the wilderness in the way that it is often portrayed.

But I think Obama probably didn’t pay enough attention to building the party as he could have. The DNC definitely did not do enough to train and recruit candidates. The DNC focused too much on electability, and often ended up with bad candidates. This is one of those things where the head of the party might not have been directly involved, but could have set the direction better.

If that makes any sort of sense.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:32:57pm
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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:34:10pm

re: #38 TedStriker

You’d not really be paying “double” for a “smart” TV these days, it’s now the default option; plain old TVs (especially large ones) are going the way of the dodo. TCL and Vizio are pretty good and usually very reasonably priced.

Ok, I was just looking at the Best Buy website and noticed that “dumb” TVs were much less expensive than the smart ones. Guess I’m going to have to drag myself down to the store and figure out what is what.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:38:39pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Ok, I was just looking at the Best Buy website and noticed that “dumb” TVs were much less expensive than the smart ones. Guess I’m going to have to drag myself down to the store and figure out what is what.

Yeah, that’s not to say that plain old TVs aren’t still out there or that you can’t get a good deal on them, but by the time you get one and decide to add a Roku, Apple TV, or other set-top box to give you app capability (Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, all of the different broadcast and cable channel apps, etc.), you could have gotten a smart TV to do pretty the same thing in one package. Me, though, I don’t mind having the separate set-top box, because I can upgrade it anytime, as opposed to the whole set; the media setup in my house is complicated.

What size are you looking for?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:41:55pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

So apparently the ❌ emoji in twitter names thing is supposed to denote people who think they’ve been shadowbanned.

There’s a bit of meta narrative going on here because, at least in Safari, when you search for the name of the emoji (cross mark) it doesn’t show up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:49:13pm
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MsJ  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:50:53pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Ok, I was just looking at the Best Buy website and noticed that “dumb” TVs were much less expensive than the smart ones. Guess I’m going to have to drag myself down to the store and figure out what is what.

I never, ever use my smart TV. I have Apple TV and find all the smart stuff built into the TV irrelevant and annoying. FWIW & YMMV.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:52:15pm

That neo-Nazi prick Sergey wrote about yesterday is no longer “shadow-banned” - he shows up in search results and convos now.

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MsJ  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:52:48pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Also, get a 4k or better. You will not regret it. The picture is stunning.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:52:55pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

So apparently the ❌ emoji in twitter names thing is supposed to denote people who think they’ve been shadowbanned.

There’s a bit of meta narrative going on here because, at least in Safari, when you search for the name of the emoji (cross mark) it doesn’t show up.

Also what they call shadowbanning is really just the quality filter kicking in. Uncheck the filter in the notifications setting and then uncheck “hide sensitive content” and “remove blocked and muted accounts from search results” in the Privacy and Safety setting and they should show up.

Basically Twitter’s algorithm has just decided that their content is trash but the Twitter board won’t ban them outright because that would damage the stock price.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:53:41pm
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MsJ  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:54:16pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

That neo-Nazi prick Sergey wrote about yesterday is no longer “shadow-banned” - he shows up in search results and convos now.

I think his tweets were reported and he was in timeout. If that’s what they’re calling shadow banning, I think it’s known since they would get an email.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:55:38pm

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d lay good odds on another government shutdown, even if only a short one.

Last thing I and my 160 fellow employees at a Social Security Teleservice Center want. We old timers still remember when Tooty Frooty Newty and Ass Hole Dole made us work 5+ weeks without getting paid from Thanksgiving 95 to past New Years 96…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:55:54pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Also what they call shadowbanning is really just the quality filter kicking in. Uncheck the filter in the notifications setting and then uncheck “hide sensitive content” and “remove blocked and muted accounts from search results” in the Privacy and Safety setting and they should show up.

Basically Twitter’s algorithm has just decided that their content is trash but the Twitter board won’t ban them outright because that would damage the stock price.

Twitter actually does have some kind of shadow-banning code, though. I’ve never used the quality filter, or any of the other filtering options (they’re all unchecked in my Settings) but that “Jason Kobble” freak was completely missing from searches yesterday, and his tweets weren’t visible in conversations, even though I was not blocking him.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:56:29pm

re: #29 ObserverArt

I’d be interested in your thinking on that sentence in your comment I made bold?

Because that is a simple statement that needs some support instead of letting it hang out there.

To me there is a whole host of things that go into what happened there. And I’m thinking a lot of it didn’t have to do with what Obama did or didn’t do. Sure he had his mistakes. But he also faced crap no president has had to face and that had a lot to do with how “he” lost seats.

Howard Dean was DNC chair from 2005 through 2009. He had HUUUGGE success with his 50-state strategy. That’s why the Dems had so many seats (federal and state) when Obama took office. Then it was Tim Kaine from 2009 to early 2011; the 2010 midterms were a debacle, that’s why he was replaced.

Donna Brazile was briefly chair during 2011 (bad job, needed replacing), then
Debbie Wasserman Schultz from 2011 until just before the 2016 convention. She did a HORRIBLE job. They should have never had a sitting member of congress in that job to begin with, but even besides that handicap she was just bad at it.

The President, if he cares to make an issue of it, gets to choose the party chair. He allowed incompetents to sit in that seat and do nothing useful. That’s on him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 1:58:43pm

re: #27 mmmirele

I have no love for Billy Graham Cracker.

Harry Truman on Billy Graham Cracker, “He claims to be a friend of all the Presidents, but he’s no friend of mine—especially after he embraced that SOB Nixon!”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:03:01pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Twitter actually does have some kind of shadow-banning code, though. I’ve never used the quality filter, or any of the other filtering options (they’re all unchecked in my Settings) but that “Jason Kobble” freak was completely missing from searches yesterday, and his tweets weren’t visible in conversations, even though I was not blocking him.

Okay. Can’t say I’m surprised. I still remember back in May of 2015 I had a bunch of tweets mentioning @ChuckCJohnson that only I could see. I mentioned it here.

I just tested it and it’s still in effect. When I’m logged in I can see the tweet. When I log out it’s “Sorry, that page doesn’t exist.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:06:33pm

re: #28 KGxvi

So, it looks like my 10 year old TV has given out (it was randomly turning on by itself, and now it won’t stay on). Going to have to get a new one, and am wondering if it’s worth bothering with a Smart TV if I already have an Apple TV that I use for all my viewing needs. I’ve heard nightmares where Smart TVs aren’t set up to upgrade software on streaming services and thereby render them useless, and since I’ve cut the cord, that would be a problem for me.

Don’t really see the point in paying double for features I won’t be using.

Any thoughts?

I have a Sony Smart TV. It does not have all the options that an Apple TV has. I get Showtime, HBO, Starz and FilmStruck thru the Apple TV. None of those are offered on my TV.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:06:49pm
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Cheechako  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:07:56pm

re: #49 KGxvi

If you are a member of COSTCO, check out their TVs. COSTCO doubles the length of time of the manufactures warranty. Plus they have good prices.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:07:57pm

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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fucking truth

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

Okay. Can’t say I’m surprised. I still remember back in May of 2015 I had a bunch of tweets mentioning @ChuckCJohnson that only I could see. I mentioned it here.

I just tested it and it’s still in effect. When I’m logged in I can see the tweet. When I log out it’s “Sorry, that page doesn’t exist.”

But here’s the thing, what they did back then to my tweets was a true shadowbanning in that, for a while, nobody but me could see any of my tweets mentioning @ChuckCJohnson even if they used the direct URL. Whatever Twitter did back then was both selective about content and absolute in the way it censored while attempting to keep me in the dark about it. What they’re doing now is limiting search results but it’s not keeping others from going to people’s timelines and seeing the tweets if they want.

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Jay C  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:10:03pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship, I turned him down to head the FBI (one day before appointment as S.C.) & Comey is his close friend..

Wait a sec: “a very nasty and contentious business relationship”?? I’m guessing that this is typical Trump-shit on Twitter, but what sort “business” dealings would Emperor Orangeanus have had with Mueller? It’s might be just Trump’s insane idiosyncratic definition of “business”, but WTF?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:11:48pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:11:54pm

re: #69 Jay C

Wait a sec: “a very nasty and contentious business relationship”?? I’m guessing that this is typical Trump-shit on Twitter, but what sort “business” dealings would Emperor Orangeanus have had with Mueller? It’s might be just Trump’s insane idiosyncratic definition of “business”, but WTF?

He quit one of the yam’s golf clubs

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:12:50pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

But here’s the thing, what they did back then to my tweets was a true shadowbanning that, for a while nobody but me could see any of tweets mentioning @ChuckCJohnson even if they used the direct URL. Whatever Twitter did back then was both selective about content and absolute in the way it tried to censor content while keeping me in the dark. What they’re doing now is limiting search results but it’s keeping others from going to people’s timelines and seeing the tweets if they want.

All of this seems like a muddled, confused way to avoid making any value judgments about people’s opinions, ever, even if they’re deranged and dangerous opinions. Instead of stepping up and accepting that responsibility, Twitter increasingly relies on half-baked ill-considered software algorithms and untrained interns that just try to hide the problems instead of doing anything effective.

Kind of ironic that Twitter’s called “social media,” when they have no detectable sense of social responsibility.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:13:59pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

He quit one of the yam’s golf clubs

So nasty and contentious that he didn’t file a lawsuit or even write any letters that Trump can show us to prove his bullshit assertion.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:19:02pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

So nasty and contentious that he didn’t file a lawsuit or even write any letters that Trump can show us to prove his bullshit assertion.

It was Trump. He didn’t want to separate from Meuller’s money.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:21:39pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:26:06pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Ok, I was just looking at the Best Buy website and noticed that “dumb” TVs were much less expensive than the smart ones. Guess I’m going to have to drag myself down to the store and figure out what is what.

If you slap a Roku, Amazon Fire or Chrome Stick (or others) wifi streaming device on any TV you more or less have a smart TV.

Edit…I should have read a bit longer!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:26:20pm
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Nyet  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:26:34pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

Shadowbanning means your tweets will also be hidden in conversations unless you have a direct link.

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unproven innocence  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:26:41pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Any thoughts?

If you get a 32” or 40” 1080p NON-smart TV with inputs that include a 15pin VGA port (“PC input”) you can use it also as generic monitor for a PC or laptop, at a bargain price. A vga cable will cost you ~5 to 15usd. I use a 4-way IOGear KVM to use 1kbd, 1mouse, and 1monitor(TV) with up to 4pc’s at 1 location. A 2nd 4-way KVM lets me switch among 7 PCs.

A smart TV is likely to compromise your privacy (ie, viewing habits) and if used as a PC display, may compromise your computer/network security also. (Most will auto-connect to ANY available open wifi.)

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:28:48pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

[If people ever start calling this ungodly mess “Trumpgate” I may explode.]

Peegate. Can also be spelled P-gate, with an allusion to Putin, which is a kind of double allusion.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:34:38pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:34:43pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

The Putin-Pleasin’ Treason Boy of Company P. - Bette Midler

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:35:30pm

re: #79 unproven innocence

If you get a 32” or 40” 1080p NON-smart TV with inputs that include a 15pin VGA port (“PC input”) you can use it also as generic monitor for a PC or laptop, at a bargain price. A vga cable will cost you ~5 to 15usd. I use a 4-way IOGear KVM to use 1kbd, 1mouse, and 1monitor(TV) with up to 4pc’s at 1 location. A 2nd 4-way KVM lets me switch among 7 PCs.

A smart TV is likely to compromise your privacy (ie, viewing habits) and if used as a PC display, may compromise your computer/network security also. (Most will auto-connect to ANY available open wifi.)

I have my older Mac Mini hooked up to my Sony Smart TV using it as a video monitor via HDMI cable. However it doesn’t transmit sound on the HDMI jack so I have to plug into a Beats speaker when I stream video (mainly Sling TV) on my MacMini.

Frustrating that my old Mini can’t upgrade to OS 12. And it’s been years since Apple “upgraded” the Mini with an inferior chip…

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:39:15pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

The Putin-Pleasin’ Treason Boy of Company P. - Bette Midler

This thing has legs.

And you have an avatar rivaling Backwoods_Sleuth’s for cuteness.

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The Major  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:40:29pm

re: #28 KGxvi

These days finding a non-Smart TV will be like searching for hen’s teeth. Both previous suggestions (Consumer Reports & Amazon) are good bets.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:48:40pm

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:49:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 2:51:40pm

re: #86 goddamnedfrank

LOL

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gee…I would have thought the prob was the shark in the arm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:00:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:03:05pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Immigration policies so dumb they’re why two of his wives are here and his mother. What a whiny shithead.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:04:08pm
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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:05:28pm

And speaking of shade—MSNBC is showing “All the President’s Men” tonight. I don’t recall them running movies before. Anybody?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:11:03pm
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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:12:56pm

Thanks all for the TV advice. A friend is letting me have a lightly used Sharp TV with most of the things I need, so I’m going to go with that for the time being. Just cost $20 for a new universal remote, seems like a decent deal.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:13:27pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Which are worse, Illinois Nazis ore Indiana Nazis?

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:17:03pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

The sinister purpose of seeking asylum due to gang or domestic violence?

Something that Congress has recently said is a fucking stupid policy?

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:17:17pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Which are worse, Illinois Nazis ore Indiana Nazis?

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:18:56pm

re: #94 KGxvi

Thanks all for the TV advice. A friend is letting me have a lightly used Sharp TV with most of the things I need, so I’m going to go with that for the time being. Just cost $20 for a new universal remote, seems like a decent deal.

Avoiding the hard choices. :)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:19:26pm

Haha, just shared with my 83 yo mom (Tues = birthday) APESHIT

I roped her in since she’s been to the Louvre.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:22:42pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Which are worse, Illinois Nazis ore Indiana Nazis?

All of them, Katie.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:23:36pm

This ain’t watergate. At least back then there were republicans who cared about the country.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:24:01pm

re: #98 Belafon

Avoiding the hard choices. :)

I was actually at Best Buy looking at options and she texted me, when I told her what I was doing she said don’t be stupid. Figure if nothing else it saves me a couple hundred bucks

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:27:21pm

re: #92 BeachDem

And speaking of shade—MSNBC is showing “All the President’s Men” tonight. I don’t recall them running movies before. Anybody?

It’s not the movie-movie — it’s a 40th-anniversary documentary about the movie. Which includes a certain amount of interviews with Woodward/Bernstein, and archival news footage, but also Redford and Hoffman and so on.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:29:02pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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For the most part, Carmel, IN isn’t a place of economic insecurity.

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Nyet  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:29:58pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:30:23pm

re: #104 Barefoot Grin

For the most part, Carmel, IN isn’t a place of economic insecurity.

I didn’t read the article… Carmel? Really? You’re not kidding - it’s one of the more well-off areas, as much as can be said for Indiana. But it is chock full of white Trump voters, and I’m sure that’s no coincidence.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:31:11pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Which are worse, Illinois Nazis ore Indiana Nazis?

Well, Indiana was headquarters of the rejuvenated KKK in the 1920s and 1930s, filled with “sundown towns,” and probably has more Confederate flags per capita than anywhere in the south. But, yeah, I’d still say both

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:33:04pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Klan rises in Indiana again thanks to Tweety Amin!

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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:36:30pm

re: #103 sagehen

It’s not the movie-movie — it’s a 40th-anniversary documentary about the movie. Which includes a certain amount of interviews with Woodward/Bernstein, and archival news footage, but also Redford and Hoffman and so on.

I sort of remember Rachel talking about MSNBC doing this. She said it was to be educational and because of some of the parallels and the like.

Maybe it is also a way to remind people the president can be removed.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:42:04pm

Yeah, I’m a bad person to ask about a TV. I paid wayyy to much for an OLED. While a fine picture, I just don’t watch enough TV.

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Nyet  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:45:06pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:46:22pm

re: #111 Nyet

JFC

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:47:52pm

re: #111 Nyet

I reported that SOB to @jack but I don’t expect anything to come of that action.

Tired of reporting these racists and @jack looks the other way and/or encourages them!

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:52:55pm

re: #103 sagehen

It’s not the movie-movie — it’s a 40th-anniversary documentary about the movie. Which includes a certain amount of interviews with Woodward/Bernstein, and archival news footage, but also Redford and Hoffman and so on.

Ah—that makes more sense—on the TV listing grid, it just shows the movie.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:56:58pm

re: #111 Nyet

What we’re saying is that he didn’t kill enough of them

only recently we were under the impression that american society overwhelmingly accepted the proposition that racism and endorsement of genocide are utterly unacceptable

our mistake

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 3:58:17pm

Just back from the Ronald Reagan library. Kinda blew through to spend time with Ghengis. I learned something really interesting. The worlds greatest conqueror was in some ways more progressive than our current Tyrant in Chief. All the empires religions were okay. Women could fight in combat. Adultery was penalized by death however. Interesting in a polygamous structure. The steel swords were fascinating. One had parts from Japan, Mongolia, but a true Damascus blade fro the middle east. Indian gemstones in the hilt. It’s original owner is not known but I think had to be someone rich and or powerful.

Two things got me. One was a piece of the WTC iron structure from 9-11. That was hard to see up close. Evert little detail just impressed itself on me, bent rivets, scrapes, patina. I was a bit lightheaded for a minute. Walking away I kept seeing falling man in my mind.

On the way out stopped by the Reagans grave. I realize he is a despised man. But what he represented was so kind compared to what we have now. For all his ideological and policy wrongs, he was a far better man than Donald Trump.

I could not bring myself to get within earshot of Sean Spicer who is there for a book signing. He sullies the place with every freaking step.

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:00:16pm

Warning—if you’ve recently eaten, do not look—this video and photo could make you toss your cookies.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:02:55pm

re: #111 Nyet

Reported, fwiw.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:09:45pm

re: #117 BeachDem

Warning—if you’ve recently eaten, do not look—this video and photo could make you toss your cookies.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:11:59pm

This is something from the Washington Post that is a very interesting read. Carl Bernstein reflects on Watergate and similarities to DT and what is going on.
washingtonpost.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:12:51pm

I know there are at least two fans of Halestorm here. Anyone else up for a new release?

Iframe

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:13:53pm

re: #116 Unshaken Defiance

You may find this fascinating…….

The Secrets of Wootz Damascus Steel

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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:15:17pm

re: #116 Unshaken Defiance

On the way out stopped by the Reagans grave. I realize he is a despised man. But what he represented was so kind compared to what we have now. For all his ideological and policy wrongs, he was a far better man than Donald Trump.

Sorry, but, no he was worse. No where near as stupid and simply hid his hatreds behind a “gee wiz” & “oh shucks” pretense of geniality. If he wasn’t as blatant about his racism and hate, it was only that he had better script writers and handlers.

Look to his speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi and his reaction to the Black Panthers open carrying for the real Reagan. Look to the horrors he cheerfully inflicted upon Central America, financed by treasonous sales to Iran.

If there is a hell, he is in it as certainly as Thatcher, Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini, Stalin & Hitler.

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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:17:18pm

re: #121 Unshaken Defiance

I know there are at least two fans of Halestorm here. Anyone else up for a new release?

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Already got it. Some interesting stuff but I think I liked the last one a bit better. Still Skulls, Uncomfortable, Vicious, and Do Not Disturb are in their top rank.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:21:20pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:21:26pm

re: #123 William Lewis

I have one argument only. Trump has a far higher American dead body count than Reagan, and soon if not already, globally. All the rest I have no argument.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:22:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:23:09pm

re: #122 Dave In Austin

I got permission to set up for steel work at the PMWest shop. 30+ years in non ferrous metallurgy and now I want that next challenge. Great steels.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:25:34pm

re: #116 Unshaken Defiance

Sorry but President Pruneface ran a circus of endless corruption for eight years. He destroyed the industrial base of my home in Western PA and just flipped the bird to unemployed millworkers.

He let his pal Millken loot the pension funds of the steel companies and cheat union workers out of their pension and health benefits.

242 Marines killed in Lebanon and Brave Sir Pruneface Cut and run.

He let his pals loot and destroy the Savings and Loans.

He opened the red ink floodgates with the Kemp-Roth Deficit Increase.

He looked the other way when Oliver North let Blandon flood South Central LA with crack Contra cocaine.

He broke the union movement in this country starting with firing the air traffic controllers.

His Pulpit Pimp Pals kissed his ass while he NEVER stepped foot in a church while he was President and his wife’s astrologer was calling the shots for him.

Sorry, Pruneface Reagan still gets a F grade from me for being a total fuckup as President.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:28:12pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sorry, Pruneface Reagan still gets a F grade from me for being a total fuckup as President.

This simply does not disagree with what I said.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:30:17pm

re: #130 Unshaken Defiance

This simply does not disagree with what I said.

I understand. Still hate that SOB for freezing my pay 3 times while he was in office. And he exempted himself from the government pension offset and windfall benefit reduction he forced on everyone else when he signed the 1983 Social Security Amendments.

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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:33:08pm

re: #128 Unshaken Defiance

I got permission to set up for steel work at the PMWest shop. 30+ years in non ferrous metallurgy and now I want that next challenge. Great steels.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:35:01pm

re: #131 Joe Bacon 🌹

As much as I can and do cut ties over Trump, I will not argue your points one bit. Not for Reagan, and certainly not among people I consider to be highly respected friends if actually only online friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:35:24pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:36:32pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:37:16pm

re: #132 William Lewis

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:37:20pm

Reagan funded and trained death squads in Central America killed tens of thousands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:42:45pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:43:01pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:43:48pm

re: #137 Single-handed sailor
Yes he did.
Take a peek at civilian casualties now that Trump loosened up the rules designed to reduce the carnage of innocents. That’s not somebody else, as in foreign death squads. That’s us directly. If we are not there yet, just wait a minute.

Middle East civilian deaths have soared under Trump. And the media mostly shrug.
2017 was the deadliest year for civilian casualties in Iraq and Syria, with as many as 6,000 people killed in strikes conducted by the U.S.-led coalition, according to the watchdog group Airwars.

washingtonpost.com

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:46:31pm

re: #137 Single-handed sailor

Reagan funded and trained death squads in Central America killed tens of thousands.

Today people are fleeing the ruination that still remains, only to cross our border, have their kids stolen, and get locked up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:50:59pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Say what now?

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:55:30pm

OK—we all need a smile. (And I REALLY needed one after the Mooch/Huckabee thing I posted)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:56:47pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 4:58:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:00:38pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump and his Normalizing Russian Authority pals just want more blood to feed the Bela Lugosi Tree Of Liberty

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jaunte  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:05:09pm

re: #135 Dave In Austin

Dershowitz seems awfully agitated. Maybe all this evidence Mueller is collecting makes him nervous.

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stpaulbear  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:07:21pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Everyone Trump knows already has armed guards.

He thinks his voters are their own armed guards.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:08:56pm

re: #147 jaunte

Dershowitz seems awfully agitated. Maybe all this evidence Mueller is collecting makes him nervous.

As well as Rudy bouncing off the walls….

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:12:15pm

Michael Avenatti To Rudy Giuliani: ‘Buckle up buttercup’ Because Trump’s Stupidity Will ‘Catch up to him’

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:16:49pm

re: #111 Nyet

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Reported.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:18:34pm

brew install cmake

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:19:13pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

brew install cmake

brew: command not found

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:22:19pm

FINALLY!

One of the accounts I reported to Twitter is found in violation of their rules…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:24:41pm

re: #154 Joe Bacon 🌹

FINALLY!

One of the accounts I reported to Twitter is found in violation of their rules…

Are you using the long form? Because that’s the only time I ever get a response at all. The vanilla report tweet / report user links seem to be useless.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:25:47pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Yes! I have that page bookmarked!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:29:27pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Are you using the long form? Because that’s the only time I ever get a response at all. The vanilla report tweet / report user links seem to be useless.

what’s the long form? How do I use it?

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LastYearsMan  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:33:10pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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“Trump” really should be the modifier at this point. As in: Watergate was nearly 0.7 Trumps.

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jaunte  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:35:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:36:58pm

re: #157 I Would Prefer Not To

what’s the long form? How do I use it?

Here’s the link to the Twitter Long Form!

help.twitter.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:37:07pm

re: #158 LastYearsMan

“Trump” really should be the modifier at this point. As in: Watergate was nearly 0.7 Trumps.

Who are we kidding? At this point, if Watergate is more than half a Trump, I’d be astonished. Inflation is ridiculous these days.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:39:08pm

re: #160 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s the link to the Twitter Long Form!

help.twitter.com

thanks

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:39:27pm

re: #143 BeachDem

OK—we all need a smile. (And I REALLY needed one after the Mooch/Huckabee thing I posted)

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Is it just me, or does Ethel look a lot like Hillary?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:40:10pm

re: #163 sagehen

close.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:40:44pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Who are we kidding? At this point, if Watergate is more than half a Trump, I’d be astonished. Inflation is ridiculous these days.

Watergate was more like a micro-tRump. To tell the truth, it was only about a milli-Nixon, but like Al Capone, you get them on what you can.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:41:37pm

In 1968, there was a popular song that I decided I never needed to hear again. Yesterday, I heard it again, being performed live by a guy who probably had not been born yet in 1968.

50 years. Not bad, but if it’s another 50 before I hear it again, it will be too soon. And I will be too old to hear it, so that will work out.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:41:39pm

re: #157 I Would Prefer Not To

what’s the long form? How do I use it?

Click on the link in my post. It’s a more specific form for reporting abusive tweets. It has a broader list of reasons to pick from, allows you to report multiple tweets at once, and gives you a text field to fully describe the problem in context.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:41:45pm

re: #147 jaunte

Dershowitz seems awfully agitated. Maybe all this evidence Mueller is collecting makes him nervous.

Because he wrote a book called the Case Against Impeaching Trump and with every day that passes, it seems a more stupid thing to have written?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:42:54pm

re: #166 wrenchwench

In 1968, there was a popular song that I decided I never needed to hear again. Yesterday, I heard it again, being performed live by a guy who probably had not been born yet in 1968.

50 years. Not bad, but if it’s another 50 before I hear it again, it will be too soon. And I will be too old to hear it, so that will work out.

Hey no fair. Now terribly curious what song that was. :-)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:43:26pm

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:45:41pm

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Hey no fair. Now terribly curious what song that was. :-)

Dylan, from a couple years before ‘68. Never liked his singing, and some of his songs are very long. That’s all I will say.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:46:43pm

re: #165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Watergate was more like a micro-tRump. To tell the truth, it was only about a milli-Nixon, but like Al Capone, you get them on what you can.

And like Al Capone, it just might come down to the tax man to get rid of Trump for good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:47:21pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Dylan, from a couple years before ‘68. Never liked his singing, and some of his songs are very long. That’s all I will say.

You’re lucky I like riddles. :p

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ObserverArt  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:47:22pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Who are we kidding? At this point, if Watergate is more than half a Trump, I’d be astonished. Inflation is ridiculous these days.

I think 5 bungling burglers and 7 admin members was bad.

But this Trump thing has a freaking foreign country that has been an arch enemy tied to it, plus all the people possibly involved with the caper, and banks, The NRA, religious leaders…etc.

If this is all proven and it is as deep and wide as it appears Watergate will pale in comparison. Percentage wise? 5% to 10%. But let’s see how it turns out.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:48:55pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Dylan, from a couple years before ‘68. Never liked his singing, and some of his songs are very long. That’s all I will say.

My unpopular opinion. Don’t like Dylan’s voice, nor Tom Petty, nor Neil Young. But I can’t get over the songs they wrote.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:50:12pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

My unpopular opinion. Don’t like Dylan’s voice, nor Tom Petty, nor Neil Young. But I can’t get over the songs they wrote.

I’ve always liked Tom Petty.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:51:05pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

My unpopular opinion. Don’t like Dylan’s voice, nor Tom Petty, nor Neil Young. But I can’t get over the songs they wrote.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!11ty

///

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jaunte  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:51:19pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

Don’t do me like that.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:52:56pm

re: #178 jaunte

Don’t do me like that.

It’s good to be king…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:55:00pm

re: #179 TedStriker

It’s good to be king…

I’m sorry, but The King has left the building.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:55:03pm

re: #179 TedStriker

It’s good to be king…

Okay well that’s at least my weeks ration of unpopular sentiment. I’ll be good now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:56:56pm

re: #181 Unshaken Defiance

Okay well that’s at least my weeks ration of unpopular sentiment. I’ll be good now.

Cutting chocolate cake into square pieces doesn’t magically turn it into brownies. There—I said it. Come at me, Bro!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:57:24pm

re: #182 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cutting chocolate cake into square pieces doesn’t magically turn it into brownies. There—I said it. Come at me, Bro!

I like pineapple on pizza. Especially with ham.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 5:58:12pm

re: #182 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cutting chocolate cake into square pieces doesn’t magically turn it into brownies. There—I said it. Come at me, Bro!

So I can have yours?

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fern01  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:03:09pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Funny how tapper didn’t attack President Obama when he was out surfing with Richard Branson (white guy) but doesn’t like him dancing hip hop.

It’s always racism when Obama is attacked - always - and the people doing it would deny it - always.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:03:32pm

OMG my mistake — it is the actual movie-movie.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:06:17pm

re: #185 fern01

Funny how tapper didn’t attack President Obama when he was out surfing with Richard Branson (white guy) but doesn’t like him dancing hip hop.

It’s always racism when Obama is attacked - always - and the people doing it would deny it - always.

White privilege….ain’t it grand?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:06:45pm

made onion rolls this morning.
then made multi-grain sourdough bread.
then made some plain sourdough bread.
changed up things in the kitchen and made some guacamole.
now there’s banana bread baking in the oven.
and a salmon fillet in the smoker.

busy day of foodie stuff.

sink full of mixing bowls and other stuff waiting to be washed.

i am exhausted.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:07:44pm

Anyone following the HBO series “Sharp Objects” or “Succession”?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:08:09pm

Brew doesn’t seem to want to install cmake. Been sitting there for an hour. May have to Control-C this bad mamma jamma.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:08:46pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

My unpopular opinion. Don’t like Dylan’s voice, nor Tom Petty, nor Neil Young. But I can’t get over the songs they wrote.

I would add Rod Stewart to that list. Some of their songs, though, really couldn’t be done in any other voice.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:11:45pm

re: #191 Belafon

I would add Rod Stewart to that list. Some of their songs, though, really couldn’t be done in any other voice.

Early stuff: Good. Middle-to-late stuff: So bad…..Of course, I got older along then, maybe I developed discernment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:11:46pm

Leonardo daDeadpool!

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:11:57pm

re: #189 Dave In Austin

Anyone following the HBO series “Sharp Objects” or “Succession”?

I’ve been following Succession… I hate every single character. These are vile people. All of them. I’m only watching to see which of them (how many of them) have horrible things happen to them.

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fern01  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:14:08pm

re: #24 KGxvi

There’s a real stupidity in this when you consider the fact that under normal circumstances, this is exactly what a former president and first lady should be doing… being private citizens. Former presidents, especially those who are barred from running again due to term limits, shouldn’t be at the center of American politics.

If he wants to make the argument that the apparent collapse of the Democratic Party happened under Obama, there’s a fair criticism there. They lost the House, they lost a near filibuster proof majority in the Senate, they lost a ton of governors’ offices and state legislative seats during the Obama years. And as the effective leader of the party, he probably bears some responsibility for that. But that’s is an argument that takes time and effort and research… it’s so much easier to hit the world with an emoticon

The media supporting racism had a massive impact during those years. The way they attacked health care was impossible to believe - if I had not seen it.

The way the GOP obstructed the government, demanded a reduction in expenditure - only to forget the word deficit the minute they gained power - was not unbelievable - it is how the GOP has always behaved. Anyone heard a word in the media about deficits for the past few months? Did anyone see a democrat on any of the Sunday news shows post 2009? John McCain, the loser had a permanent position on those shows, the dems were never asked, and were too busy working to see what was happening via the media.

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:14:32pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Early stuff: Good. Middle-to-late stuff: So bad…..Of course, I got older along then, maybe I developed discernment.

“Mandolin Wind” is probably one of my favorite Stewart songs.

Rod Stewart - Mandolin Wind

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:17:00pm

re: #194 sagehen

I’ve been following Succession… I hate every single character. These are vile people. All of them. I’m only watching to see which of them (how many of them) have horrible things happen to them.

Yeah, It is somewhat captivating in that regard.

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:20:21pm

re: re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:20:56pm

So, what’s the modern day equivalent to the guys in the Watergate break in having an entry in their address books for someone at the White House? Is it Don Jr’s emails?

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:23:07pm

re: #196 TedStriker

“Mandolin Wind” is probably one of my favorite Stewart songs.

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Thanks. I quit listening to him at some point, and now it’s good to hear the old stuff again. That’s one of the best.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:25:30pm

Russian Target #1 Claire McCaskill

Russian Target #2 is…Jeanne Shaheen

cbsnews.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:26:38pm

re: #201 Joe Bacon 🌹

Russian Target #1 Claire McCaskill

Russian Target #2 is…Jeanne Shaheen

cbsnews.com

I’m going to make a wild eyed guess Russian Target #3 is Debbie Stabenow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:27:50pm

re: #201 Joe Bacon 🌹

Russian Target #1 Claire McCaskill

Russian Target #2 is…Jeanne Shaheen

cbsnews.com

And the vote is still more than 4 months away. Many more shenanigans to come.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:29:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:30:14pm

re: #199 KGxvi

So, what’s the modern day equivalent to the guys in the Watergate break in having an entry in their address books for someone at the White House? Is it Don Jr’s emails?

Jr’s emails, the bogus statement about the meeting crafted aboard Airforce One, the false denial by the White House that Trump was involved in crafting the statement, the second false story that he was obliquely consulted but didn’t actually write it, and the final admission that he dictated the whole damned thing.

Then there’s Cohen’s apparent contention that Trump knew about the meeting in advance. If Hope Hicks or anybody else on Trump’s staff can be pressed to confirm that it’s all over.

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garzooma  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:35:55pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

I think 5 bungling burglers and 7 admin members was bad.

But this Trump thing has a freaking foreign country that has been an arch enemy tied to it, plus all the people possibly involved with the caper, and banks,

Don’t forget that the crimes are ongoing — the Russians will continue to spy on Trump’s opponents and steal their information, and Trump is harassing the FBI so that they can keep on doing it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:36:31pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Brew doesn’t seem to want to install cmake. Been sitting there for an hour. May have to Control-C this bad mamma jamma.

Yeah, that’s a bad sign. And if Ctrl+C doesn’t do the trick, there’s always the good ol’ “ps -ef | grep | xargs kill -9”.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:40:03pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s a bad sign. And if Ctrl+C doesn’t do the trick, there’s always the good ol’ “ps -ef | grep | xargs kill -9”.

This isn’t about coffee, is it. Must be Covfefe.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:41:20pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

This isn’t about coffee, is it. Must be Covfefe.

Charles is definitely brewing something, but it’s more along the lines of software development and release process and less along the lines of caffeinated bean-water.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:41:28pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Jr’s emails, the bogus statement about the meeting crafted aboard Airforce One, the false denial by the White House that Trump was involved in crafting the statement, the second false story that he was obliquely consulted but didn’t actually write it, and the final admission that he dictated the whole damned thing.

Then there’s Cohen’s apparent contention that Trump knew about the meeting in advance. If Hope Hicks or anybody else on Trump’s staff can be pressed to confirm that it’s all over.

As Trump said, he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and not lose any voters. His supporters do not care that he is owned by Putin. An acquaintance from college days posts articles from Mark Levin and others testifying to Obama’s weakness and Trump’s strength. They are brainwashed cult members — and the GOP in Washington is owned by Russia and complicit.

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fern01  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:41:49pm

Why does anyone ever trust trump to do anything other than feather his own nest.

abc.net.au

trump International Golf Links in Scotland partially destroys 4,000-year-old, legally protected sand dunes…
Scottish Natural Heritage, which monitors the country’s sensitive and scientifically important sites, said that construction of Trump International Golf Links Scotland in Balmedie “led to the direct loss” of up to 68 hectares of the 205-hectare Foveran Links site.
…During the original approval process, Mr Trump promised to minimise any environmental damage, saying he was “fully committed to mitigating the effects of the course on the environment”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:43:33pm

re: #211 fern01

Why does anyone ever trust trump to do anything other than feather his own nest.

abc.net.au

Why isn’t Scotland doing anything about this?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:44:53pm

*Gasp* (Love this little girl!)

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fern01  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:46:20pm

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

Why isn’t Scotland doing anything about this?

I believe they are - trump is trying to get permission for stage 2 - doubtful it will happen.
Hopefully they will just close it all down - but perhaps are wary of the long term legal fight that trump will enter into. Scotland is small & not very wealthy - main reason a majority didn’t want to exit the UK.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:48:37pm

Everybody, gear up for infrastructure week. It’s bound to be exhausting. Electrolytes people!!!

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TedStriker  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:48:53pm

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

And the vote is still more than 4 months away. Many more shenanigans to come.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:53:23pm

re: #199 KGxvi

So, what’s the modern day equivalent to the guys in the Watergate break in having an entry in their address books for someone at the White House? Is it Don Jr’s emails?

Roger Stone’s DM’s with Guccifer 2.0 and/or Assange.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:55:22pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to make a wild eyed guess Russian Target #3 is Debbie Stabenow.

Or Heidi Heidkamp, Or Joe Manchin.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:55:25pm

re: #213 Unshaken Defiance

She also has had about enough of this shit.That face. Damn.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 6:56:19pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to make a wild eyed guess Russian Target #3 is Debbie Stabenow.

Heidi Heitkamp

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Amory Blaine  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:06:11pm

Tammy Baldwin.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:09:34pm

100 days until election day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:18:35pm

Why is my Spidey Sense tingling that #3 is Dianne Feinstein?

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:20:09pm

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why is my Spidey Sense tingling that #3 is Dianne Feinstein?

What does that accomplish? She’s going against another Democrat in the general. He’s not going to be any friendlier to Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:22:59pm

re: #224 KGxvi

What does that accomplish? She’s going against another Democrat in the general. He’s not going to be any friendlier to Trump.

Dianne is the ranking member on the Intelligence committee. Knocking her off would put a less experienced Senator in her slot.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:24:56pm

When George Wallace lost one of his early campaigns to an avowed racist, he promised that he would never be out-n*****ed again.
When George W. Bush lost his first election to Kent “Skeletor” Hance, he vowed that he would never be out-Jesused again.
It more recent times, conservative candidates have apparently committed themselves to not being out-dumbassed.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:28:07pm

One of the most annoying behaviors on twitter. Don’t do this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:28:22pm

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:32:10pm

According to conservatives though, California is a hellscape of high taxes, power drunk gays, and rapacious gangs and Scandinavia is a terrorist-ridden socialist death camp.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:34:14pm

re: #214 fern01

I believe they are - trump is trying to get permission for stage 2 - doubtful it will happen.
Hopefully they will just close it all down - but perhaps are wary of the long term legal fight that trump will enter into. Scotland is small & not very wealthy - main reason a majority didn’t want to exit the UK.

This is how he gets away with ignoring rules and laws — no one holds him account. A few small payoffs and he has gotten away with any infraction he deigns to commit. He must be brought to justice — as well as his entire criminal organization.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:36:15pm

re: #222 Belafon

I was working up a little something for us California resistance people. I submit a proposed California Campaign Battle Flag.

Suggestions welcome

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:41:42pm

Why not put something in Latin on the top like Gens Una Sumus (Tr. We Are One People)?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:44:58pm

re: #231 Unshaken Defiance

I was working up a little something for us California resistance people. I submit a proposed California Campaign Battle Flag.

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Can the bear be chewing on a confed flag.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:45:35pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:46:36pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Good idea, maybe in the color band to tie that together.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:48:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:48:56pm

re: #235 Unshaken Defiance

Maybe have the color band expand the spectrum so it doesn’t look like a rainbow flag but all the rainbow colors have a stripe in the scheme.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:50:44pm

re: #229 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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According to conservatives though, California is a hellscape of high taxes, power drunk gays, and rapacious gangs and Scandinavia is a terrorist-ridden socialist death camp.

And according to my brother, California residents and businesses are all fleeing to the paradise of Texas with its low taxes. It’s a nightmare out there on the West Coast with homeless wandering the streets of San Francisco. Texas is number one in oil and gas production because if there is one thing this world needs it’s greater use of carbon based fuels!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:53:53pm

Also thinking about the star, maybe make it multiple stars like the logo Leslie Stevens used for his Daystar Productions company.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:56:06pm

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The primary reason for the disastrous policy in Iraq post invasion is that ideologues were selected to manage Iraq instead of experts who were familiar with its history and culture. Now it is the United States that is the victim of similar ideologues — and the results are equally ugly.

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:57:12pm

Just a reminder—new John Oliver tonight.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 7:59:04pm

re: #241 BeachDem

Just a reminder—new John Oliver tonight.

And another segment of This Is America! Who will SBC punk tonight?????

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wheat-dogg  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:06:08pm

re: #242 Joe Bacon 🌹

And another segment of This Is America! Who will SBC punk tonight?????

Has the Sarah Palin segment aired yet?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:08:52pm

LOL I know these aren’t massive numbers but for me this tweet is kind of taking off.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:09:55pm

re: #244 goddamnedfrank

When I said are I meant to say *aren’t*

I learned it by watching Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:10:47pm

re: #243 wheat-dogg

Has the Sarah Palin segment aired yet?

Don’t know. I will check the episode when I come home from work tomorrow!

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jaunte  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:11:49pm
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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:14:12pm

re: #235 Unshaken Defiance

Good idea, maybe in the color band to tie that together.

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This design: amazon.com might give you some ideas. I believe it was originally created for the climax of The Postman.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:16:49pm

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not sure what you mean, or quite what that would look like

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:17:38pm

So, I saw this on FB:
“Don’t waste time hoping Trump has a heart attack.
He’s missing the required organ.
For a similar reason, don’t waste time hoping he has an aneurysm.”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:24:35pm

Progress

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:27:53pm

re: #249 Unshaken Defiance

Not sure what you mean, or quite what that would look like

Add a wider spectrum because it looks like it goes from Violet on the right to Orange on the left. I don’t see any yellow or red on the right.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:34:01pm

re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, that’s probably better.

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Jay C  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:46:54pm

re: #253 Unshaken Defiance

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Yes, that’s probably better.

And while we’re nitpicking/Photoshopping, maybe black-outline the Latin slogan to better stand out against the colors?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:46:59pm

re: #253 Unshaken Defiance

Like that revised color band! Makes a statement of full inclusiveness!

Great Work!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 8:50:03pm

re: #255 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now we see if it helps or gets out there past my network. Always fun to take a swing, hit or miss these days.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:00:57pm

re: #254 Jay C

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:04:18pm

re: #257 Unshaken Defiance

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:05:21pm

Just finished “All the President’s Men” on MSNBC. For some reason, I avoided the “Slow Burn” podcast, but I think that’s my next in queue.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:09:49pm

re: #258 BeachDem

Whoops.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:10:52pm

re: #247 jaunte

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:12:32pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:20:06pm

We’ve had a lot of “the FBI and our IC are above biases and work for the interest of all Americans” lately with the Peter Strzok hearings, the Comey stuff, etc. But tonight’s refresher on Watergate combined with what we know about how they handled the Russian attacks reminded me of two things tonight: the modern GOP firmly believes that they have a divine right to rule and any and everything—legal and illegal—they can do to preserve power is justified; and many in IC, try as they might to be above politics, are fundamentally aligned with conservative values and will eye progressives with skepticism while giving conservatives the benefit of the doubt. That hasn’t changed since WWII.

I’m grateful for those in the IC who do great work. I’m just noting a general tendency.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:20:42pm

re: #259 Barefoot Grin

Just finished “All the President’s Men” on MSNBC. For some reason, I avoided the “Slow Burn” podcast, but I think that’s my next in queue.

I had somehow forgotten since I first saw that movie; it’s 2-1/2 hours of detailed day-to-day storytelling of the six months from the break-in to the inauguration… then the next year and a half is condensed into a 3-minute montage of opening lines of stories of new developments until the resignation.

I love that a key early development that kept the story going was a white house fuck-up…

WOODWARD
According to White House personnel, Hunt definitely works there as a consultant for Colson. But when I called the White House Press office, they said he hadn’t worked there for three months. Then the P.R. guy said the weirdest thing to me.
(reading)
“I am convinced that neither Mr. Colson nor anyone else at the White House had any knowledge of, or participation in, this deplorable incident at the Democratic National Committee.”

He looks up at them.

SIMONS
Isn’t that what you’d expect them to say?

WOODWARD
Absolutely.

ROSENFELD
So?

WOODWARD
I never asked them about Watergate. I only said what were Hunt’s duties at the White House. They volunteered that he was innocent when nobody asked was he guilty.

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:21:24pm

re: #260 Unshaken Defiance

Whoops.

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That’s why they pay me the big proofreading/editing bucks!

Looks great.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:23:17pm

Confederate monuments report raises idea of changing Texas capital’s name

Stephen F. Austin, known as the “father of Texas,” opposed an attempt by Mexico to ban slavery in the province of Tejas and said that if slaves were freed, they would turn into “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the Austin American-Statesman reports.

Reminds me of another new name for Lubbock:
Trumpsylvania, alluding to both its greatest hero and its vampire economy.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:25:54pm

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Hell, I live in “Jonestown”. What the hell does that say?

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Interesting Times  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:25:54pm

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

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On the flip side, I can see how some people might do it because they think a burn that good deserves to be inflicted on the actual target (in other words, you might not have been the target of an intentional twitter snitch, but an overenthusiastic tweet-fan who genuinely didn’t know better. They certainly do now, however…)

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BeachDem  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:27:25pm

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Seems to me housing prices are increasing, and wages are not. I would think a decline. or slowing of sales would be an expected result

And you would not be alone in thinking that:

Market appears to be headed for its broadest slowdown in years

The U.S. housing market — particularly in cutthroat areas like Seattle, Silicon Valley and Austin, Texas — appears to be headed for the broadest slowdown in years. Buyers are getting squeezed by rising mortgage rates and by prices climbing about twice as fast as incomes, and there’s only so far they can stretch.

bloomberg.com

Housing market showing signs of cracking - cnbc.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:38:07pm

re: #258 BeachDem

re: #254 Jay C

Thanks to you both. And goodnight to all.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2018 • 9:46:06pm

re: #268 Interesting Times

On the flip side, I can see how some people might do it because they think a burn that good deserves to be inflicted on the actual target (in other words, you might not have been the target of an intentional twitter snitch, but an overenthusiastic tweet-fan who genuinely didn’t know better. They certainly do now, however…)

Yes, I understand their motives usually are good but it’s 2018 and there’s no excuse for not knowing this shit. I’ve seen too many people hounded off the platform because someone thought Greenwald or Cernovich needed to see how thoroughly they were made fun of, and the problem with snitch tagging is that even if you’ve blocked those people their fucked up, obsessed followers will still see the mention.

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2018 • 10:11:36pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 29, 2018 • 10:42:26pm
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retired cynic  Jul 29, 2018 • 10:44:19pm

re: #274 Single-handed sailor

Infrastructure week?

Distraction Sunday evening?

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2018 • 10:53:10pm
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retired cynic  Jul 29, 2018 • 11:01:48pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

Just read. Absolutely.

And the ones who need to read it and take it to heart will never do so.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2018 • 11:45:05pm

re: #272 teleskiguy

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Just yesterday, we had this warning from the AFA:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2018 • 11:53:52pm

For those few cave-dwellers and hermits who may not have heard yet, BIGFOOT EROTICA is a real thing and it has taken on political significance.
(You can shut down the internet now.)

Virginia Democrat calls out GOP rival’s stash of Bigfoot erotica on Instagram in most 2018 story yet.

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TedStriker  Jul 30, 2018 • 12:01:34am

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

For those few cave-dwellers and hermits who may not have heard yet, BIGFOOT EROTICA is a real thing and it has taken on political significance.
(You can shut down the internet now.)

Virginia Democrat calls out GOP rival’s stash of Bigfoot erotica on Instagram in most 2018 story yet.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2018 • 12:06:35am

Next up: Texas evangelist arrested for hominid trafficking! Dozen Bonobo sex-slaves freed from parsonage! Claims FBI setup! Huckabee, Graham send thoughts and prayers, call for investigation.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 30, 2018 • 12:29:40am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2018 • 1:27:34am

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

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I hope Tapper is being dragged for filth for his stupid comment. President Obama and Mrs. Obama don’t owe the Democratic Party anything, to be honest. If the Democratic Party is at an all time low, there are literally scores of other folk who can address that problem. President Obama isn’t a Magical Negro and he can’t single handedly rescue Democrats.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:15:43am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:26:03am

re: #276 teleskiguy

I seldom share anti-Trump stuff on Facebook, but I made an exception this time. It’s a subject particularly close to my heart, as the grandson of immigrants.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:27:58am

re: #284 teleskiguy

I saw a T-shirt advertised on Instagram the other day: Go outdoors. The worse that could happen is a bear could eat you.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:56:28am

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just yesterday, we had this warning from the AFA:

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Mefferd went on to ask Dailey why nobody ever takes a picture of Bigfoot “at noon,” when someone could take a well-lit photograph. Dailey said that the devil designs Bigfoot sightings to happen when it is too dark to take clear photographs.

“The vast majority happen in the dead of night and you wonder, ‘Why is this?’ And then if you remember the biblical verse about the powers of darkness that love darkness rather than light,” Dailey told Mefferd.

Huh?

A good-sized chunk of the American population is apparently in serious need of cult deprogramming. How on earth do we do this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:28:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:36:56am

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said on Sunday that she hopes to stay on the bench for another 5 years.

Ginsburg was speaking in Manhattan following the performance of a play about the late Justice Antonin Scalia when she made the estimate.

“I’m now 85,” Ginsburg said, according to CNN. “My senior colleague, Justice John Paul Stevens, he stepped down when he was 90, so think I have about at least five more years.”

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:48:54am
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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:52:26am

re: #290 Teukka

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And Sweden? Hottest July in 262 years (when record-keeping began).

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jeffreyw  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:09:37am

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Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:11:59am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:15:29am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:25:29am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Huh?

A good-sized chunk of the American population is apparently in serious need of cult deprogramming. How on earth do we do this?

You can’t undo 40 years of Religious Right brainwashing. They’ve been dumbed down to the point that they will believe anything a Republican Pulpit Pimp says!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:27:12am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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In a third world dictatorship, yes. In a democratic country with rules of law, no.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:41:02am

Holy CENSORED! SBC has me in hysterics!

Official Clip ft. Roy Moore | Ep.3 | Who Is America? | SHOWTIME

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Lupin  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:50:11am

re: #297 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy CENSORED! SBC has me in hysterics!

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I stopped watching. it was too tough. Like kicking blind people when they’re down.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:55:55am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Confederate monuments report raises idea of changing Texas capital’s name

Reminds me of another new name for Lubbock:
Trumpsylvania, alluding to both its greatest hero and its vampire economy.

We are SOOO not there as a country. If you want to see some more whites in Texas turn against Democrats, make that a thing here.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:57:38am

re: #274 Single-handed sailor

Nunes’ side-job is filling out those web ads “You will be shocked at what Martha Washington looks like now.”

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:02:43am

re: #299 Belafon

People today who rally around the CSA symbols are not doing so out of a real connection to the CSA.

It’s a reactionary movement.

Sort of like what children do when they do something they themselves don’t care about but they know it makes their parents angry.

But in this case, adults fantasizing about getting back at the larger part of society that is just different than they are.

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:06:23am

It’s been around 60 years since the last Confederate soldier died.

Neo-Confederacy is about justifying other things than the CSA.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:08:27am

re: #301 freetoken

People today who rally around the CSA symbols are not doing so out of a real connection to the CSA.

It’s a reactionary movement.

Sort of like what children do when they do something they themselves don’t care about but they know it makes their parents angry.

But in this case, adults fantasizing about getting back at the larger part of society that is just different than they are.

Imagine arguing that we should change the name of Washington, DC right now because he had slaves.

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:13:52am

One of my grandmothers I was around fairly often. Her own grandfather was a Union cavalry soldier during the war, brought his own horse. She had to know him, as they lived only a few miles from her when she was growing up. Though he died when my grandmother was a teenager, still, she knew him during her first 16 years.

Yet, my grandmother never told me any war stories, though she was surrounded by veterans growing up.

The Civil War just had no meaning to her, as far as I can tell. It’s not as if she ignored politics - I remember my mother helping her fill out a mail-ballot when she was older.l

Symbols are important to us humans. Yet, at some point, the past simply has to lay in the grave.

In doing genealogy it is a strange thing I come across, people who still want to hide what their ancestors (not parents, but people long dead) did.

As if shame is passed down through the generations.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:15:52am

re: #189 Dave In Austin

Anyone following the HBO series “Sharp Objects” or “Succession”?

Sharp Objects.

It’s good stuff but grim. I’ve read the book. Amy Adams is of course fantastic.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:17:20am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Confederate monuments report raises idea of changing Texas capital’s name

Reminds me of another new name for Lubbock:
Trumpsylvania, alluding to both its greatest hero and its vampire economy.

Sounds like Fox News is trying to distract us from something.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:18:23am

re: #302 freetoken

It’s been around 60 years since the last Confederate soldier died.

Neo-Confederacy is about justifying other things than the CSA.

They’re not neo Confederates.

They’re white supremacists. They’re white nationalists.

They’re goddamned Nazis.

Start identifying them as such because the romanticism associated with the Confederacy is sickening and obscures the intentions/goals.

They aren’t for states rights or romanticize the side that lost the War of Southern Insurrection (which they love to call the war of Northern Aggression).

They’re for making sure that minorities are put back in their place.

Trump gave them the green light at the highest level. That signaling included equating goddamned Nazis with the people protesting them at Charlottesville - even after a goddamned Nazi drove his car through a crowd and murdered a protester.

So, when someone like Pence says that Nazi graffiti found in Indiana is reprehensible, it’s hard to take him seriously - because he was part of the admin that condoned violence by Nazis operating here in the US.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:26:48am
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Jay C  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:28:43am

re: #302 freetoken

It’s been around 60 years since the last Confederate soldier died.

Neo-Confederacy is about justifying other things than the CSA.

Second claim quite true.

And as far as verified Confederate vets go, Wikipedia sez the last one died in 1951: the last known Union veteran (an underage drummer boy) hung on til 1956 (died aged 106).
Weird though, even though I was quite young, to think there were still Civil War veterans alive in my own lifetime (even if extraordinarily few of them).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:33:08am

re: #171 wrenchwench

Dylan, from a couple years before ‘68. Never liked his singing, and some of his songs are very long. That’s all I will say.

Sad.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:33:40am

re: #308 lawhawk

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Not surprising to me. But I like to believe that, as people have learned more about who Bernie is and what he’s pushing, the whole “He’s an unknown quantity” mystique around him has faded badly.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:39:49am

re: #309 Jay C

Second claim quite true.

And as far as verified Confederate vets go, Wikipedia sez the last one died in 1951: the last known Union veteran (an underage drummer boy) hung on til 1956 (died aged 106).
Weird though, even though I was quite young, to think there were still Civil War veterans alive in my own lifetime (even if extraordinarily few of them).

There used to be a TV game show called “I’ve Got a Secret”. The special guest on this 1956 episode was an eyewitness to Lincoln’s assassination.

Last Witness to President Abraham Lincoln Assassination I’ve Got A Secret

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:44:12am

re: #308 lawhawk

Obama got stuff done. Sanders just bloviates.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:45:54am

re: #192 wrenchwench

Early stuff: Good. Middle-to-late stuff: So bad…..Of course, I got older along then, maybe I developed discernment.

His smoking gravel voice got more so. His poetry is what he is and why he won the Nobel in Literature.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:47:45am

re: #308 lawhawk

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Because Obama’s actually effective.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:50:22am

re: #313 wheat-dogg

Obama got stuff done. Sanders just bloviates.

Exactly. Can someone name me what groundbreaking legislation Sanders has gotten passed? Sanders having grand ideas won’t mean shit if he gets caught in legislative gridlock because he’s unwilling to learn how to pass legislation.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:50:46am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Because Obama’s actually effective.

What I said.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:51:21am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

What I said.

Yep. GMTA.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:51:46am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Can someone name me what groundbreaking legislation Sanders has gotten passed? Sanders having grand ideas won’t mean shit if he gets caught in legislative gridlock because he’s unwilling to learn how to pass legislation.

Sanders as a senator has been a cipher.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:55:56am

re: #319 wheat-dogg

Sanders as a senator has been a cipher.

I mean I’m honestly sympathetic to a good amount where he comes from but he’s ineffective, short sighted, & an egomaniac.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:57:06am

re: #319 wheat-dogg

Sanders as a senator has been a cipher.

Sanders as a politician in general has been a continuation of the man he was before he went into politics: An opportunist. He’s jumps on popular causes as a means to advance his own career, but he never leads because being a leader means taking risks.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:00:11am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Sanders as a politician in general has been a continuation of the man he was before he went into politics: An opportunist. He’s jumps on popular causes as a means to advance his own career, but he never leads because being a leader means taking risks.

And it baffles me how he has managed to acquire such a cult following with such a thin resume.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:02:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:02:52am

re: #322 wheat-dogg

And it baffles me how he has managed to acquire such a cult following with such a thin resume.

Big promises. And he’s willing to call himself a Dem socialist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:03:36am

re: #323 MsJ

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SteelPH  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:03:46am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Big promises. And he’s willing to call himself a Dem socialist.

All while not actually being a Dem and following the party around with a big ass gavel.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:08:02am

re: #326 SteelPH

All while not actually being a Dem and following the party around with a big ass gavel.

I still think a big way to get rid of his mystique is to go at him from the left. I always go after him for his immigration record that won Steve King’s praise no less and him voting to allow guns on Amtrak and his two face bullshit about how gun manufacturers shouldn’t be accountable while holding other businesses to a different standard.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:08:20am

That’s a bit like asking how Donald Trump has managed to become the leader of a cult that seems that it would slavishly die to protect his power. Both men are appealing to a very real force in American politics, which is white resentment that manifests in different ways up and down the political spectrum. In the far-left, it’s a growing perception that policies and ideas that appeal to them (“free” healthcare and college) have taken a backseat to “identity politics.” That the DNC as a party moderated its beliefs and moved away from candidates like McCarthy, McGovern, and Mondale in order to appeal to minority voters rather than the “working class” that they (somehow) believe the party was built around rather than adopted.

It’s the same selfish attitude that drives a lot of support for men like Trump, just with a different set of excuses.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:09:14am

re: #322 wheat-dogg

And it baffles me how he has managed to acquire such a cult following with such a thin resume.

A lot of them sincerely believe in what he called for in his campaign. My wife worked for his campaign early on helping with canvassing so I got to visit local headquarters and attend an after-rally event just for campaign workers where BS and Brother Cornell showed up for a few minutes. His supporters ranged from stereotypical Bernie-bros to many retirees. My wife’s “handler,” if you will, was a young Hispanic woman from AZ getting a law degree—first legal American in her family. Her issue was education/fairness. Seeing them in action and their fervor, it’s easy to understand how they felt abused by Clinton campaign, even if not grounded in reality. His resume never came up. Just the hope for “socialist” causes like affordable (free) university education and single-payer health care. That was about it. No questions ever asked about foreign policy or BLM or those kinds of things. I think Cornell and Killer Mike helped to obfuscate his lack of interest there.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:11:12am

re: #323 MsJ

I remember reading a pretty well-written post on Reddit (of all places!) on how wave elections can overcome even the most hardcore gerrymandering. The thrust of the post was that in a wave election, gerrymandering is actually a serious disadvantage.

I guess we’ll see if that theory holds true (hopefully).

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:11:43am

A searchable database of Trump’s deleted tweets.

factba.se

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:13:04am

re: #329 Barefoot Grin

A lot of them sincerely believe in what he called for in his campaign. My wife worked for his campaign early on helping with canvassing so I got to visit local headquarters and attend an after-rally event just for campaign workers where BS and Brother Cornell showed up for a few minutes. His supporters ranged from stereotypical Bernie-bros to many retirees. My wife’s “handler,” if you will, was a young Hispanic woman from AZ getting a law degree—first legal American in her family. Her issue was education/fairness. Seeing them in action and their fervor, it’s easy to understand how they felt abused by Clinton campaign, even if not grounded in reality. His resume never came up. Just the hope for “socialist” causes like affordable (free) university education and single-payer health care. That was about it. No questions ever asked about foreign policy or BLM or those kinds of things. I think Cornell and Killer Mike helped to obfuscate his lack of interest there.

I think a lot of them are sincere and want good policies. I just think they attached themselves to an ineffective jerk. Some of them tho are awful and I include Bernie’s own son in that. I normally wouldn’t go after a candidate’s child but Levi Sanders has political ambitions of his own and his Twitter feed is troubling.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:14:25am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m honestly sympathetic to a good amount where he comes from but he’s ineffective, short sighted, & an egomaniac.

I don’t know about others, but I sure as hell would like to know how much he was influenced by Russians, either directly and knowingly, or unknowingly but willing to use it to his advantage.

And in local news…Trump’s Shadow Mike Pence is landing in a little while in Columbus and then being driven to Newark Ohio for a rally for Troy Balderson to endorse him for the Ohio District 12 Congressional special race to fill the seat of resigning Republican Pat Tiberi.

Newark can be just a bit “red” if you know what I mean…so it is safe territory for Mikey to spew some hate toward Democrats.

I hope there is some resistance there, but knowing Newark, they will do everything to keep them quiet. But since it is only a 40 minute drive from Columbus, there might be a decent turnout of protesters.

Some parts of Ohio D12 come into the Columbus city boundaries and takes up a lot of the northern suburbs in the metro area.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:16:18am

re: #333 ObserverArt

I don’t know about others, but I sure as hell would like to know how much he was influenced by Russians, either directly and knowingly, or unknowingly but willing to use it to his advantage.

And in local news…Trump’s Shadow Mike Pence is landing in a little while in Columbus and then being driven to Newark Ohio for a rally for Troy Balderson to endorse him for the Ohio District 12 Congressional special race to fill the seat of resigning Republican Pat Tiberi.

Newark can be just a bit “red” if you know what I mean…so it is safe territory for Mikey to spew some hate toward Democrats.

I hope there is some resistance there, but knowing Newark, they will do everything to keep them quiet. But since it is only a 40 minute drive from Columbus, there might be a decent turnout of protesters.

Some parts of Ohio D12 come into the Columbus city boundaries and takes up a lot of the northern suburbs in the metro area.

I would too. That Pence needs to be campaigning in CD-12 tho, bodes well.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:17:07am

I must admit, part of my negative opinion of Bernie comes from the more militant of his supporters, who also tended to be the loudest and were making the most noise during the campaign. They seemed to be universally white, universally middle to upper middle class, either too young to shave or old enough to have seen Armstrong land on the Moon, and carry massive chips on their shoulders for the perceived “betrayal” of the DNC.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:19:49am

re: #335 Targetpractice

I must admit, part of my negative opinion of Bernie comes from the more militant of his supporters, who also tended to be the loudest and were making the most noise during the campaign. They seemed to be universally white, universally middle to upper middle class, either too young to shave or old enough to have seen Armstrong land on the Moon, and carry massive chips on their shoulders for the perceived “betrayal” of the DNC.

What I don’t like about his supporters and him is how they dismissed Obama’s accomplishments and I imagine the DNC felt the same.

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SteelPH  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:20:34am

re: #335 Targetpractice

I must admit, part of my negative opinion of Bernie comes from the more militant of his supporters, who also tended to be the loudest and were making the most noise during the campaign. They seemed to be universally white, universally middle to upper middle class, either too young to shave or old enough to have seen Armstrong land on the Moon, and carry massive chips on their shoulders for the perceived “betrayal” of the DNC.

He certainly did not help his case by not even giving a token effort to at the very least steer them in the right direction.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:21:26am

This series should be awesome:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:23:38am

Sanders also doesn’t know or seem to care about FP. Not a reason I dislike him but a reason why I don’t see him or Warren as presidential material.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:23:52am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

What I don’t like about his supporters and him is how they dismissed Obama’s accomplishments and I imagine the DNC felt the same.

Their usual explanation for that was that they were “disappointed” in him. It was a variant of the “Green Lantern effect” BS, the idea that Obama “could have done what he wanted,” but didn’t because he wasn’t really a “true progressive” and that it showed by how he had gone for things he could actually accomplish rather than turning the US into a socialist utopia. The ur example being that he hadn’t pushed for a single-payer healthcare system when even the more liberal of Dems were on the fence about such and Joe “The Senator from Aetna” Lieberman made it clear he’d scuttle the whole deal if the public option wasn’t nixed from the draft proposal.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:29:15am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

I would too. That Pence needs to be campaigning in CD-12 tho, bodes well.

One week to go, election is next Tuesday. The commercials got to the mud slinging stage a couple of weeks ago and they are now being shown all the time.

Here is how Balderson started out…

Troy Balderson: Conservative Action

Here is where he is now…

Youtube Video

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:32:28am

re: #341 ObserverArt

One week to go, election is next Tuesday. The commercials got to the mud slinging stage a couple of weeks ago and they are now being shown

Here is how Balderson started out…

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“Ridiculous name-calling worked for Trump, surely it will work for me!”

FFS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:32:51am

re: #340 Targetpractice

Their usual explanation for that was that they were “disappointed” in him. It was a variant of the “Green Lantern effect” BS, the idea that Obama “could have done what he wanted,” but didn’t because he wasn’t really a “true progressive” and that it showed by how he had gone for things he could actually accomplish rather than turning the US into a socialist utopia. The ur example being that he hadn’t pushed for a single-payer healthcare system when even the more liberal of Dems were on the fence about such and Joe “The Senator from Aetna” Lieberman made it clear he’d scuttle the whole deal if the public option wasn’t nixed from the draft proposal.

They just don’t appreciate what Obama did accomplish and it pisses me off. And while I appreciate young people getting involved, there is a certain arrogance and dismissiveness to people who have been playing the game a long time.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:37:10am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

They just don’t appreciate what Obama did accomplish and it pisses me off. And while I appreciate young people getting involved, there is a certain arrogance and dismissiveness to people who have been playing the game a long time.

It’s a level of maturity and pragmatism that Bros generally tend to lack, an idea that you take the victories you can actually achieve rather than keep pushing for the unattainable and then cursing everyone around for constant failure. For the younger crowd, it’s a lack of practical experience that leads them to believe that sudden change is totally possible. And for the older crowd, it’s the refusal to accept that the rapid social progress of their youth (Civil Rights Era) was a unique set of circumstances and America is not the pressure-cooker necessary to lead to spontaneous and radical changes.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:39:59am

Looking for those commercials I posted just above I saw this at YouTube. I just had to check it out and found this is a whole lot of fun.

Nothing like some Black Brown Sabbath on a Monday morning.

I love when a band can do some send-ups of classic music and do it well.

Youtube Video

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:46:19am

re: #345 ObserverArt

Looking for those commercials I posted just above I saw this at YouTube. I just had to check it out and found this is a whole lot of fun.

Nothing like some Black Brown Sabbath on a Monday morning.

I love when a band can do some send-ups of classic music and do it well.

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Video

I got to the beginning of the guitar part and had to bail. I don’t know if it was his playing or the delay he had on the guitar, but he sounded so far behind the beat to me that it sounded like a mistake.

I realize that playing behind is a thing nowadays, but I can’t stand it.

My lawn, etc.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:46:42am
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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:49:04am

re: #346 makeitstop

I got to the beginning of the guitar part and had to bail. I don’t know if it was his playing or the delay he had on the guitar, but he sounded so far behind the beat to me that it sounded like a mistake.

I realize that playing behind is a thing nowadays, but I can’t stand it.

My lawn, etc.

It is supposed to be fun, so I can get by stuff like that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:50:52am

re: #347 MsJ

Pretty much.

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Ayep. If it’s revealed that Trump forced a mistress to have an abortion, the “moral majority” will go quiet for a bit…and then find some way to twist Christ’s teachings to say that the “terrible sin” they constantly rail against is permissible because Donny is “doing the Lord’s work.”

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:51:42am

re: #348 ObserverArt

It is supposed to be fun, so I can get by stuff like that.

I went and saw Slayer last night, so I’ve already gotten my week’s worth of fun. :)

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:03:19am
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Interesting Times  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:04:06am

re: #347 MsJ

Pretty much.

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Evangelical “thinking” on this subject is not even complicated - as long as Cheeto Benito stuffs SCOTUS and the federal courts with Roe-hating extremists, he can personally pay for as many abortions as he likes.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:04:59am

re: #328 Targetpractice

That’s a bit like asking how Donald Trump has managed to become the leader of a cult that seems that it would slavishly die to protect his power. Both men are appealing to a very real force in American politics, which is white resentment that manifests in different ways up and down the political spectrum. In the far-left, it’s a growing perception that policies and ideas that appeal to them (“free” healthcare and college) have taken a backseat to “identity politics.” That the DNC as a party moderated its beliefs and moved away from candidates like McCarthy, McGovern, and Mondale in order to appeal to minority voters rather than the “working class” that they (somehow) believe the party was built around rather than adopted.

It’s the same selfish attitude that drives a lot of support for men like Trump, just with a different set of excuses.

I don’t think that really explains it, mainly because Bernie supporters skew so young. They don’t remember those earlier days, and what they resent is the rough deal they’re getting now.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:05:30am

re: #333 ObserverArt

I don’t know about others, but I sure as hell would like to know how much he was influenced by Russians, either directly and knowingly, or unknowingly but willing to use it to his advantage.

And in local news…Trump’s Shadow Mike Pence is landing in a little while in Columbus and then being driven to Newark Ohio for a rally for Troy Balderson to endorse him for the Ohio District 12 Congressional special race to fill the seat of resigning Republican Pat Tiberi.

Newark can be just a bit “red” if you know what I mean…so it is safe territory for Mikey to spew some hate toward Democrats.

I hope there is some resistance there, but knowing Newark, they will do everything to keep them quiet. But since it is only a 40 minute drive from Columbus, there might be a decent turnout of protesters.

Some parts of Ohio D12 come into the Columbus city boundaries and takes up a lot of the northern suburbs in the metro area.

From a kos diary yesterday:

And why is VP Pence making an appearance in the GOP stronghold of Licking County tomorrow (Monday) on behalf of Balderson?…Why not send him to vote rich Delaware or Franklin counties where early voting has GOP returned ballot returns at only 34% in Delaware and a measly 16.6% in Franklin. So why Licking? The GOP return rate there is just 40% (the DEM return rate is 46.8%). So the GOP is still having to shore up what should be a comfortable GOP county. Rumor has it Balderson doesn’t want Trump in the district so Pence will come instead…

dailykos.com

If only I’d stayed in Ohio…(that was my district)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:08:52am

In other news, yesterday I posted that if we had been willing to kill 25 percent of Afghanistan’s population (like Genghis and Tamarlane), we might have had it easier. That should have been SEVENTY-FIVE percent.

Good morning.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:09:27am

re: #354 BeachDem

From a kos diary yesterday:

dailykos.com

If only I’d stayed in Ohio…(that was my district)

What gets me is not that they’re trying to shore up otherwise “safe” counties, it’s that they’re sending in Mikey. This must be looking for the party like 2006 all over again, when candidates were actually asking Dubya not to show up to stump for them. About the only thing that seems to give them any cold comfort at all is the Senate math remains in their favor with too many seats for Dems to defend in purple/red states.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:11:45am
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jeffreyw  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:11:51am
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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:12:38am

Trump wants to sabotage actual NATO, while creating a new “Arab” NATO to counter Iran.

Trump couldn’t find any of these countries on a map, unless he had a business interest in one of them.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:13:08am

re: #357 MsJ

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And we’re now again reminded why Donny was advised against bringing this nitwit to the White House with him. If this was a genuine court of law rather than the court of public opinion, the judge would be reading Rudy the Riot Act back in his office.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:13:34am

re: #359 lawhawk

Trump wants to sabotage actual NATO, while creating a new “Arab” NATO to counter Iran.

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Trump couldn’t find any of these countries on a map, unless he had a business interest in one of them.

He is selling all those states to Saudi Arabia?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:15:47am

re: #357 MsJ

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Eventually it will be that the conspiracy was necessary to prevent HRC from being elected and a lot will accept that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:16:12am

A tape is about to drop that proves Trump actually did, in fact, agree to pay for the hacking.

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:17:51am

Amazon picked up The Expanse. I’m pleased.

adweek.com

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:18:01am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

Giuliani is lying.

Manafort was with Trump longer than four months.

He continued advising Trump all through the transition. He picked Trump’s running mate of Pence.

His fingerprints are all over the campaign, transition, and admin.

Plus, Trump and Manafort go back 30+ years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:25:06am
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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:26:53am

re: #346 makeitstop

I got to the beginning of the guitar part and had to bail. I don’t know if it was his playing or the delay he had on the guitar, but he sounded so far behind the beat to me that it sounded like a mistake.

I realize that playing behind is a thing nowadays, but I can’t stand it.

My lawn, etc.

I HATE that. The beat should carry the music, not drag it down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:30:24am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

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Good. Die for Trump. You sure showed us libs.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:32:31am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

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That headline should read “Four farmers say….” Good going, Newsweek.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:32:46am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

Trump-supporting soybean farmers say they’ll gladly suffer “to the death” for his trade war

Your proposal is acceptable.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:35:47am

re: #357 MsJ

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Ayep. Goalposts are almost moved to Alpha Centauri by now.

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:36:27am

re: #369 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

That headline should read “Four farmers say….” Good going, Newsweek.

SRSLY: My first thought on reading this was “how hard did they have to search to find four nutjob farmers?”; but then, the answer occured to me that it probably (and tragically) wasn’t hard at all.

So: when do we think Newsweek (or any other MSM publication) is likely to spotlight some Midwestern farmers who think Trump is ruining their markets, and are going to vote for the first Democrat who pledges to improve farmers’ exports?

(HINT: holding breath is nor recommended)

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:40:26am

The NASA image posted yesterday is a minute+ long digital zoom going back to the center of our galaxy, ending with the black hole swallowing up matter.

apod.nasa.gov

Just amazing!

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:41:00am

This is a most fascinating law blog I have seen. What an ingenious way to explain law.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:41:16am

re: #372 Jay C

For the same reason that the NY Times runs puff pieces about the poor downtrodden white conservative in a majority white town whose conservative views are ridiculed as being unsympathetic to anyone suffering from racism and bias.

Because the media continues to push a narrative that whites are the ones suffering, not the minorities whose decades/centuries of subjugation and systemic racism/discrimination continues to be pervasive and whose civil and voting rights are under assault thanks to Trump and the GOP that wants to shift more power to the angry whites who have always had dominion.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:42:57am

re: #357 MsJ

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By the end of the week Rudy may just admit it all and then just challenge Democrats to do something about it…because the Republicans won’t.

I’d ask what their strategy is…but it is obvious they don’t have one.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:44:21am

re: #372 Jay C

SRSLY: My first thought on reading this was “how hard did they have to search to find four nutjob farmers?”; but then, the answer occured to me that it probably (and tragically) wasn’t hard at all.

So: when do we think Newsweek (or any other MSM publication) is likely to spotlight some Midwestern farmers who think Trump is ruining their markets, and are going to vote for the first Democrat who pledges to improve farmers’ exports?

(HINT: holding breath is nor recommended)

There is a reason Fox and right wing radio targeted rural areas. They are an exclusive group, many whom have never left their county, let alone state or country. And if you turn those people against democrats, they vote GOP with their dying breaths.

That is starting to change. But you have hardcore hate-loving rural people who can only die off because nothing can be said to bring them back. And many of their offspring may or may not be redeemable.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:45:13am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Eventually it will be that the conspiracy was necessary to prevent HRC from being elected and a lot will accept that.

I’ve already heard that said by one of those “revisited Trump country” voters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:46:38am

“These are often very tasty, young Dory, and the humans leave them where we can easily get to them.”

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:47:06am

re: #376 ObserverArt

By the end of the week Rudy may just admit it all and then just challenge Democrats to do something about…because the Republicans won’t.

I’d ask what their strategy is…but it is obvious they don’t have one.

They are working on swaying public opinion. Whether it works remains to be seen.

Republicans only care about public opinion (and their own hides) so they will not do anything until republican voters make them…hence, public opinion is all that matters. Even if Republican voters are a fraction of the voter population, they are whom elected Republicans care about because they keep them going.

I don’t think they can see past a primary to any general.

It is honestly baffling.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:49:59am

re: #380 MsJ

They are working on swaying public opinion. Whether it works remains to be seen.

Republicans only care about public opinion (and their own hides) so they will not do anything until republican voters make them…hence, public opinion is all that matters. Even if Republican voters are a fraction of the voter population, they are whom elected Republicans care about because they keep them going.

I don’t think they can see past a primary to any general.

It is honestly baffling.

The hated Haberman said a month or two ago that the reason you don’t see any strategy from Trump is that he’s always focused on surviving the next 10 minutes.

But I’m sure it was meant as a compliment.
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:50:52am

“Collusion is not a crime!”

Also:

“WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE THE STEELE DOSSIER TO FIND OUT IF THE RUSSIANS COLLUDED WITH HILLARY!!!”

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:51:56am

re: #365 lawhawk

Giuliani is lying.

Manafort was with Trump longer than four months.

He continued advising Trump all through the transition. He picked Trump’s running mate of Pence.

His fingerprints are all over the campaign, transition, and admin.

Plus, Trump and Manafort go back 30+ years.

4 months is way more time than needed to act as a go-between to coordinate Russian meddling in the election, convince the RNC to change the platform and pick up some of that good Russian money.

Plus you wouldn’t want someone with that much stink around too long anyway. The longer he was there the more attention he would draw.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:53:00am

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

“These are often very tasty, young Dory, and the humans leave them where we can easily get to them.”

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OMG!!

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:53:19am

re: #377 MsJ

There is a reason Fox and right wing radio targeted rural areas. They are an exclusive group, many whom have never left their county, let alone state or country. And if you turn those people against democrats, they vote GOP with their dying breaths.

That is starting to change. But you have hardcore hate-loving rural people who can only die off because nothing can be said to bring them back. And many of their offspring may or may not be redeemable.

Some of these folks hate minorities with a passion - hate illegal aliens with a passion and are the strongest supporter for Trump’s boondoggle wall.

They’re also the ones least likely to travel outside their state, encounter minorities of any kind (LGBT, blacks, Jews (non Christians generally), and are in states with no border with a foreign country but who think we’re overrun with foreigners.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:54:09am

Welp, as someone who’s flying overseas in a couple of weeks, this fills me with a vague sense of dread.

Federal air marshals have begun following ordinary US citizens not suspected of a crime or on any terrorist watch list and collecting extensive information about their movements and behavior under a new domestic surveillance program that is drawing criticism from within the agency.

The previously undisclosed program, called “Quiet Skies,” specifically targets travelers who “are not under investigation by any agency and are not in the Terrorist Screening Data Base,” according to a Transportation Security Administration bulletin in March.

The internal bulletin describes the program’s goal as thwarting threats to commercial aircraft “posed by unknown or partially known terrorists,” and gives the agency broad discretion over which air travelers to focus on and how closely they are tracked.

But some air marshals, in interviews and internal communications shared with the Globe, say the program has them tasked with shadowing travelers who appear to pose no real threat — a businesswoman who happened to have traveled through a Mideast hot spot, in one case; a Southwest Airlines flight attendant, in another; a fellow federal law enforcement officer, in a third.

It is a time-consuming and costly assignment, they say, which saps their ability to do more vital law enforcement work.

TSA officials, in a written statement to the Globe, broadly defended the agency’s efforts to deter potential acts of terror. But the agency declined to discuss whether Quiet Skies has intercepted any threats, or even to confirm that the program exists.

Release of such information “would make passengers less safe,” spokesman James Gregory said in the statement.

And this paragraph is particularly ridiculous, given that the goddamn government has encouraged people to be jumpy and nervous in airports by telling them ‘If you see something, say something’ for years.

Already under Quiet Skies, thousands of unsuspecting Americans have been subjected to targeted airport and inflight surveillance, carried out by small teams of armed, undercover air marshals, government documents show. The teams document whether passengers fidget, use a computer, have a “jump” in their Adam’s apple or a “cold penetrating stare,” among other behaviors, according to the records.

Those criteria could include just about anybody. Or everybody.

And while I’m complaining…

My wife and I decided to apply for Global Entry in order to make our flight to Belgium a little less complicated. We applied on the same day, plunked down a hundred bucks each. My wife got her conditional approval a week ago and is going in for her interview this afternoon.

I’m still waiting for conditional approval. If I was a little more paranoid, I might start to think my opposition to a certain presidential administration, and my expression of such online, might have something to do with it.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:56:21am

I’d like to see Rudy asked if conspiracy is a crime (it is), if a conspiracy has to be successful in order to prosecute it (it doesn’t), and how making an agreement with a foreign national to exchange policy changes for damaging information about a political opponent is not conspiracy (it totally is).

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:57:22am

re: #386 makeitstop

As somebody who used to fly all the damned time, but hate flying with a passion and spent around 1/2 of my flights in some form of terror (between discomfort to downright abject terror with one of them having the flight attendant handing me free vodka as soon as the seat belt sign went off at 10k feet), I am certain I would have met all that criteria.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:58:13am
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:04:41am

But they are going to tie it back to his foreign interference, right? I hope so.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:09:50am

re: #123 William Lewis

Sorry, but, no he was worse. No where near as stupid and simply hid his hatreds behind a “gee wiz” & “oh shucks” pretense of geniality. If he wasn’t as blatant about his racism and hate, it was only that he had better script writers and handlers.

Look to his speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi and his reaction to the Black Panthers open carrying for the real Reagan. Look to the horrors he cheerfully inflicted upon Central America, financed by treasonous sales to Iran.

If there is a hell, he is in it as certainly as Thatcher, Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini, Stalin & Hitler.

Another great thing about Reagan is that if you think about him for 2 or 3 seconds you start remembering more and more of his terribleness. What happened to pop into my mind right now is his breaking of PATCO.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:12:15am

re: #314 Colère Tueur de Lapin

His smoking gravel voice got more so. His poetry is what he is and why he won the Nobel in Literature.

Wait, Rod Stewart got a Nobel Prize in literature? Have they no standards?

Or did we lose something in the translation?

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:13:35am

Sure, whatever.

Hubs told me yesterday that the Kochs and their ultra rich friends are so pissed off at Republicans they are no longer funding them, and, GASP, are going to funnel money to democrats.

The tariffs are making them very unhappy.

It was the CoC just last week.

I suppose this is the result of having too damned much greed. Because, cutting taxes was everything to them…until it wasn’t any longer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:14:21am

re: #386 makeitstop

I would bet any amount of money most people being targeted by this ridiculous program happen to have a darker complexion.

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TedStriker  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:15:31am

re: #393 MsJ

Sure, whatever.

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Hubs told me yesterday that the Kochs and their ultra rich friends are so pissed off at Republicans they are no longer funding them, and, GASP, are going to funnel money to democrats.

The tariffs are making them very unhappy.

It was the CoC just last week.

I suppose this is the result of having too damned much greed. Because, cutting taxes was everything to them…until it wasn’t any longer.

I’ll believe it when I see it…without ratfucking.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:16:58am

re: #372 Jay C

SRSLY: My first thought on reading this was “how hard did they have to search to find four nutjob farmers?”; but then, the answer occured to me that it probably (and tragically) wasn’t hard at all.

So: when do we think Newsweek (or any other MSM publication) is likely to spotlight some Midwestern farmers who think Trump is ruining their markets, and are going to vote for the first Democrat who pledges to improve farmers’ exports?

(HINT: holding breath is nor recommended)

I posted this local Columbus news story last week. This Delaware (Oh) farmer seemed pretty realistic about it all.

And he is in Ohio District 12, the special election race I mentioned up thread.

Iframe

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:18:53am

Spread the word to your Floridian friends and relatives….TODAY is the last day to register to vote before the midterms.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:19:02am

Also, I’d love to see Rudy trying to defend Trump in court and get smacked around by a judge.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:20:19am

re: #390 MsJ

But they are going to tie it back to his foreign interference, right? I hope so.

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I’m wondering if they tag on the financial crimes to exert pressure on him to cooperate on electoral shenanigans.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:25:53am

re: #389 lawhawk

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It’s remarkable that Butina had her fingerprints on so many GOPers and was more-or-less off most everyone’s RADAR. If she was successful at hiding in plain sight, just imagine what else is going on with GOP/NRA/Klan.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:27:21am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:27:34am

Moar Winning…..

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:27:37am

re: #400 Dr. Matt

It’s remarkable that Butina had her fingerprints on so many GOPers and was more-or-less off most everyone’s RADAR. If she was successful at hiding in plain sight, just imagine what else is going on with GOP/NRA/Klan.

They’re easy to exploit as Sasha Baron Cohen is showing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:29:34am

THIS IS NOT A PARODY.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:29:48am

I found myself just realizing that the GOP’s eventual position, which Rudy seems to be working around to, is not going to be “Yeah, so we cheated, what of it?”

Instead, the final position will be “We only cheated to counter Dem cheating!”. If you look at their actions before and after the election, it begins to make a strange sort of sense. Their obsession with the Steele Dossier, their repeated demands for even more documents from the DOJ (and pinning the refusal on Rosenstein), their efforts to stymie investigations into the conspiracy, and their insistence on avoiding any real talk about securing future elections.

In their minds, it was a given that the Clintons would engage in “dirty tricks” to win because she was so unpopular. To them, the Dossier is “proof” of that, even if they can’t prove it had any effect on the race. And that the DNC was so desperate to keep power that they would go along with this, killing the FBI investigation into her emails and even coordinating efforts to spy on the Trump campaign to get an “unfair” advantage. So while they are focused on ending investigation into Trump, it is not so much protection of him as it is protection of the party itself by “proving” that it did nothing worse than what the DNC was already doing.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:30:41am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

They’re easy to exploit as Sasha Baron Cohen is showing.

Was just thinking the other day that O’Queef is like the sad, pathetic poor man’s version of Sacha Baron Cohen. Thankfully right-wingers are too fucking stupid to successfully pull of what Sacha Baron Cohen can do.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:31:21am

re: #405 Targetpractice

I found myself just realizing that the GOP’s eventual position, which Rudy seems to be working around to, is not going to be “Yeah, so we cheated, what of it?”

Instead, the final position will be “We only cheated to counter Dem cheating!”. If you look at their actions before and after the election, it begins to make a strange sort of sense. Their obsession with the Steele Dossier, their repeated demands for even more documents from the DOJ (and pinning the refusal on Rosenstein), their efforts to stymie investigations into the conspiracy, and their insistence on avoiding any real talk about securing future elections.

In their minds, it was a given that the Clintons would engage in “dirty tricks” to win because she was so unpopular. To them, the Dossier is “proof” of that, even if they can’t prove it had any effect on the race. And that the DNC was so desperate to keep power that they would go along with this, killing the FBI investigation into her emails and even coordinating efforts to spy on the Trump campaign to get an “unfair” advantage. So while they are focused on ending investigation into Trump, it is not so much protection of him as it is protection of the party itself by “proving” that it did nothing worse than what the DNC was already doing.

And you know what, a lot on the right will accept that. They may be annoyed by Trump but they hate the Clintons even more.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:31:55am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

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“What ‘merit’ do they need to immigrate here?”

“White skin!”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:32:12am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS NOT A PARODY.

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GOP Fucktards doing what they do best: Using infants as political props. Disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:32:13am

re: #406 Dr. Matt

Was just thinking the other day that O’Queef is like the sad, pathetic poor man’s version of Sacha Baron Cohen. Thankfully right-wingers are too fucking stupid to successfully pull of what Sacha Baron Cohen can do.

Cohen is actually clever. O’Keefe is a douchebag.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:33:26am

re: #405 Targetpractice

I found myself just realizing that the GOP’s eventual position, which Rudy seems to be working around to, is not going to be “Yeah, so we cheated, what of it?”

Instead, the final position will be “We only cheated to counter Dem cheating!”. If you look at their actions before and after the election, it begins to make a strange sort of sense. Their obsession with the Steele Dossier, their repeated demands for even more documents from the DOJ (and pinning the refusal on Rosenstein), their efforts to stymie investigations into the conspiracy, and their insistence on avoiding any real talk about securing future elections.

In their minds, it was a given that the Clintons would engage in “dirty tricks” to win because she was so unpopular. To them, the Dossier is “proof” of that, even if they can’t prove it had any effect on the race. And that the DNC was so desperate to keep power that they would go along with this, killing the FBI investigation into her emails and even coordinating efforts to spy on the Trump campaign to get an “unfair” advantage. So while they are focused on ending investigation into Trump, it is not so much protection of him as it is protection of the party itself by “proving” that it did nothing worse than what the DNC was already doing.

‘Mom, he hit me!’

‘No I didn’t. I hit you back!’

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:34:48am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

And you know what, a lot on the right will accept that. They may be annoyed by Trump but they hate the Clintons even more.

They’re already pretty much on that wavelength, the “So what if he did it? Hillary did too!”, hence the efforts to spin the whole conspiracy as “opposition research” in order to say that it’s “no different” than what Christopher Steele was doing. Even if it turns out that the Trump campaign (and possibly the GOP leadership) were promising changes on US/Russia policy to secure that “dirt,” they’ll argue that we make such deals “all the time.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:35:55am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Every day Rudy, Donnie, and et al. move the goalposts to a new zip code regarding Russia. It’s only a matter time before they just resort to: Yeah, so we cheated and colluded. So what? There’s nothing in the Consitution about not being able to collude with Russia!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:36:03am

If not for Gus and a couple others twitter would REALLY suck

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:36:37am

re: #400 Dr. Matt

It’s remarkable that Butina had her fingerprints on so many GOPers and was more-or-less off most everyone’s RADAR. If she was successful at hiding in plain sight, just imagine what else is going on with GOP/NRA/Klan.

Someone in the media was watching and paying attention. Micheal Isikoff and David Corn.

He even mentioned her in his and David Corn’s book Russian Roulette.

Check this interview out with him…I’ll put up the meaty portion.

NPR - Michael Isikoff On Maria Butina And Russia

KING: So I cannot get over this detail. You wrote a book last spring. Maria Butina was in your book. How is it that she was on your radar so long ago, but we’re all just learning about her now?

ISIKOFF: Well, first of all, the book was out this spring - in March of this year. But she had been on my radar and other journalists’ for quite some time, starting in the 2016 campaign, where people noticed that she had been sort of popping up at political events - conservative political events. Actually, she’d been doing so for some time - Conservative Political Action Conferences, NRA conventions, National Prayer Breakfasts.

And she said - she described to people how she was - had founded a Russian gun rights group.

KING: OK.

ISIKOFF: There wasn’t much of a gun rights movement in Russia, so that seemed odd. But she seemed totally focused on forging these relationships with conservative political activists.

KING: Were people actively suspicious of her? Did you find her suspicious at all?

ISIKOFF: Well, I - actually, as we reported in the book - David Corn and I - there’s a Republican lobbyist who remembers being approached by her at a CPAC conference - Conservative Political Action Conference - and just being struck by how solicitous she was, how she wanted to stay in touch with him and become his Facebook friend. And this is a somewhat elderly gentleman, balding, wasn’t used to this kind of attention from a young, attractive Russian woman. And he, you know, began asking, like, why - what’s going on here? And this kept happening time and again.

And, you know, by the time of the presidential campaign, which really begins when Donald Trump announces in June of 2015. Just a few weeks later, Trump goes to a conservative event in Las Vegas - FreedomFest. Maria Butina is there. There’s a Q&A session. Trump calls on her. She asks about sanctions - what would he do about sanctions against Russia? Hardly a top-level issue at the time. And Trump gives a five-minute answer saying, you know, if I’m elected, you won’t need sanctions. I know Putin. Putin knows me. We’ll get along. And there, the Russians had Trump on record saying he’d ease sanctions if he was elected president.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:37:27am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:38:06am

And This….

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:39:09am

re: #406 Dr. Matt

Was just thinking the other day that O’Queef is like the sad, pathetic poor man’s version of Sacha Baron Cohen. Thankfully right-wingers are too fucking stupid to successfully pull of what Sacha Baron Cohen can do.

Or, alternately, Democratic elected officials and most wannabes don’t have the same shit to hide or repudiate.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:41:28am

re: #405 Targetpractice

I found myself just realizing that the GOP’s eventual position, which Rudy seems to be working around to, is not going to be “Yeah, so we cheated, what of it?”

Instead, the final position will be “We only cheated to counter Dem cheating!”. If you look at their actions before and after the election, it begins to make a strange sort of sense. Their obsession with the Steele Dossier, their repeated demands for even more documents from the DOJ (and pinning the refusal on Rosenstein), their efforts to stymie investigations into the conspiracy, and their insistence on avoiding any real talk about securing future elections.

In their minds, it was a given that the Clintons would engage in “dirty tricks” to win because she was so unpopular. To them, the Dossier is “proof” of that, even if they can’t prove it had any effect on the race. And that the DNC was so desperate to keep power that they would go along with this, killing the FBI investigation into her emails and even coordinating efforts to spy on the Trump campaign to get an “unfair” advantage. So while they are focused on ending investigation into Trump, it is not so much protection of him as it is protection of the party itself by “proving” that it did nothing worse than what the DNC was already doing.

Yeah, they’ve already basically said this, that collusion was fine, not illegal, anybody would have taken that meeting, but of course they didn’t collude with Russia, Hillary did! But collusion not illegal, except-for-Hillary’s-collusion, and on and on.

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gwangung  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:41:48am

re: #412 Targetpractice

They’re already pretty much on that wavelength, the “So what if he did it? Hillary did too!”, hence the efforts to spin the whole conspiracy as “opposition research” in order to say that it’s “no different” than what Christopher Steele was doing. Even if it turns out that the Trump campaign (and possibly the GOP leadership) were promising changes on US/Russia policy to secure that “dirt,” they’ll argue that we make such deals “all the time.”

Yeah, they take it as an article of faith that Democrats cheat all the time. They point to Soros et al, never mind that the Mercers, Kochs and Aldersons do it more and did it longer.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:41:57am

re: #413 Dr. Matt

Every day Rudy, Donnie, and et al. move the goalposts to a new zip code regarding Russia. It’s only a matter time before they just resort to: Yeah, so we cheated and colluded. So what? There’s nothing in the Consitution about not being able to collude with Russia!

See, the reason why I think they insist on dubbing it “opposition research” and such strident denial is not because Donny is trying to cover up that he cheated to win. The man is so easily bruised that the idea he could only win by cheating is abhorrent to him. It would be an admission that he’s such a shit sandwich that he could only win by putting a thumb on the scale.

No, it makes much more sense if you view his beliefs as those of a man who is trying to justify his actions. He didn’t cheat, he simply “leveled the playing field,” using outside information sources to counter DNC “dirty tricks.” It’s why he obsesses with the electoral map while stridently refusing to accept the popular vote results. He can only square the circle by saying that he won despite efforts by the DNC to “rig” the election, that he was such an awesome candidate that there were enough Americans who voted for him to defeat the “millions of illegal votes.” And the “wiretapping” of Trump Tower, as well as investigations into campaign staff, merely reinforce that belief that the DNC was actively trying to sabotage him but he prevailed by being such an amazing candidate.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:42:36am

re: #405 Targetpractice

I found myself just realizing that the GOP’s eventual position, which Rudy seems to be working around to, is not going to be “Yeah, so we cheated, what of it?”

Instead, the final position will be “We only cheated to counter Dem cheating!”. If you look at their actions before and after the election, it begins to make a strange sort of sense. Their obsession with the Steele Dossier, their repeated demands for even more documents from the DOJ (and pinning the refusal on Rosenstein), their efforts to stymie investigations into the conspiracy, and their insistence on avoiding any real talk about securing future elections.

In their minds, it was a given that the Clintons would engage in “dirty tricks” to win because she was so unpopular. To them, the Dossier is “proof” of that, even if they can’t prove it had any effect on the race. And that the DNC was so desperate to keep power that they would go along with this, killing the FBI investigation into her emails and even coordinating efforts to spy on the Trump campaign to get an “unfair” advantage. So while they are focused on ending investigation into Trump, it is not so much protection of him as it is protection of the party itself by “proving” that it did nothing worse than what the DNC was already doing.

The goalposts get moved, taken apart, new goalposts brought in to stand against the other goalposts, the goalposts are turned upside down and set up on their sides, etc.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:44:29am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS NOT A PARODY.

Barf

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:45:35am

re: #421 Targetpractice

Well, if the collusion was just oppo research, they can point to THE INFAMOUS AND DEBUNKED HILLARY DOSSIER TOTALLY ILLEGAL!!!!

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:45:58am

Make of this what you will:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:47:49am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, Noah, the only thing insulting for a Republican these days is to be insufficiently pro-MAGA, or be called ‘deplorable’.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:54:07am

Hey, let’s hope…

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:57:17am

re: #427 makeitstop

Hey, let’s hope…

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My guess? The Times was about to publish something unflattering and sent an early draft to the White House to see if they had any clarifications/revisements they wished to see, but Don decided the way to deal with it was to blow his top instead.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:59:41am

re: #416 Dr. Matt

It’s time to watch Alphabet tank, isn’t it?

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:12:32am
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:15:25am

Another not happy day on Wall Street.

Crude Oil is the only thing going up (along with my gas prices).

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:16:01am

Prepare to be totally unsurprised:

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:17:51am

I misread.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:18:04am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Prepare to be totally unsurprised:

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Rand Paul: Concern Troll. No shock there. He’s a party man through and through.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:20:17am

The question now is which damp squibs in the DNC ranks will totally ignore that the GOP paid no price for stealing a SCOTUS seat and “cross the aisle” to vote for Kavanaugh in the belief that it will save their own seat in November. My money’s on Manchin.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:21:18am
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:24:14am

re: #436 lawhawk

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Like I said upthread, we’re moving towards an open acknowledgment that Trump worked with the Russians, but it’s totally “okay” because “THEY DID IT FIRST!!!”

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:25:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:28:06am

re: #436 lawhawk

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So Dana what dirt do they have on your sorry ass or are you that pathetic?

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:28:33am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

So Dana what dirt do they have on your sorry ass or are you that pathetic?

Yes.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:29:31am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

So Dana what dirt do they have on your sorry ass or are you that pathetic?

You are assuming they have something on him and he’s not an autocrat who wants republican rule through any measure…you know, free and fair elections just like Mother Russia.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:30:13am

The Cult of Trump is strong in the derp:

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:33:56am

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:34:34am

re: #442 lawhawk

The Cult of Trump is strong in the derp:

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Incredibly so.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:36:08am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

Next you’ll tell me Bryan Fischer was caught in a bear outfit soliciting gay sex in a mosque.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:36:49am

These fuckers need to be disbanded. No ifs, ands or buts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:39:00am

re: #446 MsJ

These fuckers need to be disbanded. No ifs, ands or buts.

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FFS. Yes disband ICE.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:39:55am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

Ok, that left me speechless. This guy is a danger to society. He almost killed his wife last year and now this? Damn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:41:29am

re: #448 MsJ

Ok, that left me speechless. This guy is a danger to society. He almost killed his wife last year and now this? Damn.

A person like that definitely shouldn’t have guns.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:42:20am
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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:43:39am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

You’re not kidding on the bizarre scale.

Sounds like the guy has an undiagnosed mental health condition and needs constant care, and no access to any weapons of any kind.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:45:20am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

Dude has lost it completely. He should be committed before he does that to a human.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:46:38am

re: #450 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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They trust Trump more than their friends and family. This is a cult of political personality unique in American history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:46:58am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Prepare to be totally unsurprised:

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:06am

Whiplash!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:18am

re: #442 lawhawk

The Cult of Trump is strong in the derp:

The “11 percent” sounds rather high. More indoctrination needed for these magabots.

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:19am

re: #427 makeitstop

re: #428 Targetpractice

Well, the “official” NY Times’ rejoinder to Trump’s imbecilic tweet was finally published in the dead-tree edition today (Mon. - I had read it online already), and the level of point-missing and subject-changing was astonishing. In the Times’ headline, it was painted as a “clash”: but reading the account as described in the body of the piece, it sounded as anodyne a bland recitation of platitudes as possible: and as if Sulzberger and Trump were attending different meetings. And also that Pinch may have been pissed (though how it would be a surprise is beyond me) that Trump met with him, then proceeded to dump all over the Times (and MSM) regardless.
I hope the “clarification” really IS a harbinger of some major scoop in the pipeline. We could use one.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:50am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

I haven’t, but I must say he’s going all out for a GOP nomination for something.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:48:48am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

This series should be awesome:

Octavia Spencer is my Hollywood crush.

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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:48:55am

re: #456 Sir John Barron

The “11 percent” sounds rather high. More indoctrination needed for these magabots.

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They’re the ones who are so dumb they didn’t understand the question.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:49:17am

re: #448 MsJ

Ok, that left me speechless. This guy is a danger to society. He almost killed his wife last year and now this? Damn.

He has always been “off.” Remember, he’s the guy who started the TGDN—and called for the execution of anyone with ebola, and on and on. His wiki page doesn’t even begin to describe much of the crap he’s advanced. fitsnews.com has long kept track of him.

And his mother, Roxie, is another braintrust. (This article has my go-to photo of mother/son.

greenvillejournal.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:49:46am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

That seems like an article from a “satire” site, but it seems to be a real right-wing biased news site.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:51:11am

The right opposes gun control because they’re why new laws are needed.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:51:42am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

From there:

I’m about to get crucified in the media.

Dude, if that’s what it takes to be Jesus, Obama got there first.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:51:57am

re: #453 HappyWarrior

They trust Trump more than their friends and family. This is a cult of political personality unique in American history.

I’d say it’s similar to the cult of Lyndon LaRouche - only the scale and national impact is bigger in Trump’s cult of personality.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:52:02am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

I actually thought he was going by the name Kris Kobach these days. I can’t tell these lunkhead wingnuts apart.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:52:08am

On a genealogy note. My Dad’s oldest sister took the test. More Irish and Western European than Dad but less Scandinavian and UK than him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:52:26am

re: #465 Dr Lizardo

I’d say it’s similar to the cult of Lyndon LaRouche - only the scale and national impact is bigger in Trump’s cult of personality.

Yes.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:52:44am

re: #457 Jay C

Well, the “official” NY Times’ rejoinder to Trump’s imbecilic tweet was finally published in the dead-tree edition today (Mon. - I had read it online already), and the level of point-missing and subject-changing was astonishing. In the Times’ headline, it was painted as a “clash”: but reading the account as described in the body of the piece, it sounded as anodyne a bland recitation of platitudes as possible: and as if Sulzberger and Trump were attending different meetings. And also that Pinch may have been pissed (though how it would be a surprise is beyond me) that Trump met with him, then proceeded to dump all over the Times (and MSM) regardless.
I hope the “clarification” really IS a harbinger of some major scoop in the pipeline. We could use one.

Perhaps the basis of the report trump et al will be writing to refute anything Mueller. If the NYT went to trump with the allegations, trump now has what the message will be to refute.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:53:25am

re: #462 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That seems like an article from a “satire” site, but it seems to be a real right-wing biased news site.

I’m skeptical until I see this from a more trustworthy news source, like an actual newspaper.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:53:42am

Todd Starnes is another old name but he was more pundit type than party big wig iirc. I remember him because f his crying about gays using the rainbow.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:55:09am

re: #462 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That seems like an article from a “satire” site, but it seems to be a real right-wing biased news site.

Oh, it’s definitely not satire. Some of their stuff is loony, but it’s legit. This is the site where the owner, Will Folks, broke all the news about Nikki Haley’s affairs and other antics during her campaign governor, complete with text messages (about his own affair with Nikki), ranted on against her, then endorsed her.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:55:29am

NRA, Republicans refute GOP sheriff’s stand-your-ground claims (Politico)

A Florida sheriff claimed “stand your ground” essentially prohibited him from making an arrest in a politically charged and racially tinged shooting death, but his fellow Republicans who wrote the law, criminal-court attorneys and even the National Rifle Association are accusing him of misapplying Florida’s self-defense statutes.

In explaining why he didn’t arrest the shooter, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told reporters on July 20 that his hands were tied because the stand-your-ground law “created a standard, that is a largely subjective standard” for the use of deadly force by a shooter.

Gualtieri also suggested his office could be civilly liable simply for arresting the shooter, and he stressed how Florida lawmakers last year changed the 2005 law concerning immunity from prosecution.

But on each of those three counts — immunity, civil liability and subjectivity — experts say Gualtieri is just wrong.

“Nothing in either the 2005 law or the 2017 law prohibits a Sheriff from making an arrest in a case where a person claims self-defense if there is probable cause that the use of force was unlawful,” said Marion Hammer, Tallahassee’s NRA lobbyist who helped shepherd “stand your ground” through the GOP-led Florida Legislature.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:56:36am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

Todd Starnes is another old name but he was more pundit type than party big wig iirc. I remember him because f his crying about gays using the rainbow.

I remember him, because I’ve never seen a person who’s more square than Todd Starnes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:57:01am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Please tell me this is a parody site!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:57:48am

All of my 6 sons are visiting Chez Babushka. The pie is all eated, we had waffles for breakfast. It was son #4’s birthday so his brothers got him a 23andme DNA kit “to prove if you are actually related to us”.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:58:20am

re: #465 Dr Lizardo

I’d say it’s similar to the cult of Lyndon LaRouche - only the scale and national impact is bigger in Trump’s cult of personality.

I would lay odds on many trump cultists being LaRouchians.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:00:10am

re: #475 Joe Bacon 🌹

Please tell me this is a parody site!

Apparently not. I think I’m having a stroke. Nothing seems real anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:01:08am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

All of my 6 sons are visiting Chez Babushka. The pie is all eated, we had waffles for breakfast. It was son #4’s birthday so his brothers got him a 23andme DNA kit “to prove if you are actually related to us”.

Haha. I want to see how my brothers differ from me. I mean I think I by far am more Eastern European than they are. They’re very fair especially my one brother whose daughter is my niece.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:01:16am

re: #477 MsJ

I would lay odds on many trump cultists being LaRouchians.

I honestly have no idea where on the political spectrum LaRouchites are to be found - I tried reading up on him one time, but it just struck me as insane conspiracy theories and outlandish notions. I admit, I just gave up.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:01:43am

re: #474 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I remember him, because I’ve never seen a person who’s more square than Todd Starnes.

Seriously uptight even for a RWNJ.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:01:48am

re: #475 Joe Bacon 🌹

Please tell me this is a parody site!

Nope—here’s the Ballotpedia page on the founder, Will Folks.

ballotpedia.org

They definitely lean toward the nutty, but have actually broken some big stories on state politicos.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:02:52am

re: #480 Dr Lizardo

I honestly have no idea where on the political spectrum LaRouchites are to be found - I tried reading up on him one time, but it just struck me as insane conspiracy theories and outlandish notions. I admit, I just gave up.

They’re somewhere between Alex Jones and an elephant eating caviar.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:05:02am

re: #480 Dr Lizardo

I honestly have no idea where on the political spectrum LaRouchites are to be found - I tried reading up on him one time, but it just struck me as insane conspiracy theories and outlandish notions. I admit, I just gave up.

We met one in Chicagoland when we were visiting. I had to do a U turn because I needed to know what was on the “billboard” he was wearing. It was nutso andi-Obama stuff. He gave us a handout that we laughed about for days, because, well, we’re sane.

It’s funny in a “this isn’t funny at all” way.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:05:14am

re: #473 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There’s a reason SYG sucks - and it’s because you’ve got so many people misapplying the law.

And there’s an even larger number of people who think they can shoot others and use it as a defense should they be caught.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:07:30am

Go check out the story at Balloon Juice (there’s some blood on the face of the cop in the picture in case you have trouble with the site of it).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:08:10am

re: #480 Dr Lizardo

I honestly have no idea where on the political spectrum LaRouchites are to be found - I tried reading up on him one time, but it just struck me as insane conspiracy theories and outlandish notions. I admit, I just gave up.

So, like the Republicans in 2018?

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unproven innocence  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:10:10am

Trump still threatening a government shutdown, just a couple minutes ago, in live coverage with new prime minister of Italy.

Youtube Video
Still bloviating.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:10:14am

re: #487 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So, like the Republicans in 2018?

I maintain that with the GOP, the Birchers had their revenge after Bill Buckley effectively purged them from the Republican Party back in the day.

The GOP today is essentially the John Birch Society.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:11:00am

Well, this sums it up nicely.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:12:01am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

All of my 6 sons are visiting Chez Babushka. The pie is all eated, we had waffles for breakfast. It was son #4’s birthday so his brothers got him a 23andme DNA kit “to prove if you are actually related to us”.

If they ask you to spit in a tube, make sure it’s long enough after breakfast that they don’t just isolate wheat DNA or maybe maple tree…..

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:12:03am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

I maintain that with the GOP, the Birchers had their revenge after Bill Buckley effectively purged them from the Republican Party back in the day.

The GOP today is essentially the John Birch Society.

Agree. And I still think Buckley wanted the Birchers out because Buckley was all about appearances. In an interesting part now of the Farrell Nixon bio, Nixon really alienated them when he ran for governor in 1962.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:14:14am
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:14:25am

re: #490 MsJ

Well, this sums it up nicely.

They’re only for bunnies and porn stars if they stay quiet.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:14:25am

re: #490 MsJ

Well, this sums it up nicely.

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I’d make that “paying off playboy models and porn stars.”
Sex-workers don’t deserve to get lumped in with that crowd.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:18:36am

re: #474 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I remember him, because I’ve never seen a person who’s more square than Todd Starnes.

And yet, he supports the thrice-married, multi-timed bankruptcy-declaring, gambling casino-owner, record-breaking lying liar because

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:18:49am

re: #477 MsJ

I would lay odds on many trump cultists being LaRouchians.

Well, they’re generally the ones setting up those ‘Support President Trump’ tables in front of post offices. We get them at our local every so often, and they’re definitely LaRouchies.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:20:36am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:21:19am

re: #496 Sir John Barron

And yet, he supports the thrice-married, multi-timed bankruptcy-declaring, gambling casino-owner, record-breaking lying liar because

Stupid white man with more money than brains, just like Todd.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:21:47am

re: #496 Sir John Barron

And yet, he supports the thrice-married, multi-timed bankruptcy-declaring, gambling casino-owner because

Because they hate the same people. The conservative movement has always been united by shared hatreds. It’s a movement where fuckboys like Trump and guys like Todd who can’t even say vagina can be simpatico.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:23:40am

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Because they hate the same people. The conservative movement has always been united by shared hatreds. It’s a movement where fuckboys like Trump and guys like Todd who can’t even say vagina can be simpatico.

You just mentioned the naughty-place, so to a Republican, you’re much worse than people who steal children from refugees.

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:23:40am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:27:12am

re: #501 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You just mentioned the naughty-place, so to a Republican, you’re much worse than people who steal children from refugees.

You jest but that’s really how conservatives think. Where cursing at Trump who isn’t exactly Ned Flanders with his own vocabulary is worse than the policy being protested.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:30:13am

re: #479 HappyWarrior

Haha. I want to see how my brothers differ from me. I mean I think I by far am more Eastern European than they are. They’re very fair especially my one brother whose daughter is my niece.

3 of my sons inherited the baldness gene from my father through me, and 3 have Z’s full head of hair.

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:30:47am

Typhoon Jongdari tracing out a question mark:

Tropical cyclones do sometimes make loops, though this one looks kind of extreme.

Kyushu will be hit twice:

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:30:48am

re: #284 teleskiguy

BEARS

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Video

Also birds. I clicked on that a couple of hours ago, and I kept hearing tiny seagulls in my ceiling. I just found them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:31:49am

re: #497 makeitstop

Well, they’re generally the ones setting up those ‘Support President Trump’ tables in front of post offices. We get them at our local every so often, and they’re definitely LaRouchies.

My God, they are still around?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:34:44am

re: #504 The Vicious Babushka

3 of my sons inherited the baldness gene from my father through me, and 3 have Z’s full head of hair.

Crazy how it works. Both of our parents are blue eyed so we all are but Dad’s side was much lighter haired but wavy and curly haired while Mom’s is darker and straight. I got the dark hair and the waves while my one brother got the opposite.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:35:00am

re: #507 Big Beautiful Door

My God, they are still around?

Yeah I think so.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:35:10am

re: #488 unproven innocence

Trump still threatening a government shutdown, just a couple minutes ago, in live coverage with new prime minister of Italy.

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Video
Still bloviating.

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unproven innocence  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:35:27am

re: #488 unproven innocence

Speaking of NK, the moron-in-chief just bragged “We got our prisoners back.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:37:09am

re: #509 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think so.

I just checked; Larouche is still alive at age 95.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:39:30am

JFC Teh Stupids

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:41:17am

re: #512 Big Beautiful Door

I just checked; Larouche is still alive at age 95.

That’s just cruel fate. Both my grandfather’s never made it to 80.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:41:44am

re: #507 Big Beautiful Door

My God, they are still around?

Yep.

The giveaways are the tables with signs with a thousand words on them, reams and reams of printed materials alleging 50 different kinds of nonsense, and graphic design so absolutely horrible that it hurts your eyes just to look.

The ‘Support President Trump’ guys check off every one of those boxes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:42:20am

re: #513 The Vicious Babushka

JFC Teh Stupids

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NATO isn’t a business shit brain. It’scan alliance and our NATO allies helped after 9/11 when your two sons were nowhere in sight.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:42:27am

re: #443 BeachDem

And for anyone who’s been wondering, “Whatever happened to Todd Kincannon?” here’s the latest bizarre story. (And when I say bizarre, I am NOT exaggerating.)

Todd Kincannon Proclaims Himself As Jesus Christ, Slaughters Dog

fitsnews.com

Holy shit, what a wackaloon

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:42:35am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

Crazy how it works. Both of our parents are blue eyed so we all are but Dad’s side was much lighter haired but wavy and curly haired while Mom’s is darker and straight. I got the dark hair and the waves while my one brother got the opposite.

I am left handed with green-brown eyes. My wife is right handed with blue eyes. Our oldest two boys are right handed with my eyes. Our youngest boy is left handed with blue eyes.

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JordanRules  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:42:59am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:43:44am

re: #450 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Can laced Kool-aid be far behind?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:45:06am

re: #512 Big Beautiful Door

I just checked; Larouche is still alive at age 95.

He’s the Abe Vigoda of politics, LOL.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:45:56am

re: #519 JordanRules

Some foreign leader needs to bring up that we’re being led by our senile grandfather to finally burst the bubble.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:46:38am

re: #515 makeitstop

Yep.

The giveaways are the tables with signs with a thousand words on them, reams and reams of printed materials alleging 50 different kinds of nonsense, and graphic design so absolutely horrible that it hurts your eyes just to look.

The ‘Support President Trump’ guys check off every one of those boxes.

It can’t be any worse than this: universe-people.com

That’s from a local wacko, Ivo Benda.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:47:58am

re: #518 Belafon

I am left handed with green-brown eyes. My wife is right handed with blue eyes. Our oldest two boys are right handed with my eyes. Our youngest boy is left handed with blue eyes.

Z and I are both right-handed. 3 of our kids are left handed. We are brown-eyed and all our kids are brown-eyed, but we have some photos of ancestors who had light eyes. I have a bunch of blue-eyed grandkids.

Zedushka is a descendant of the Cohanim but I don’t know if 23andme tests for it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:48:32am

re: #518 Belafon

I am left handed with green-brown eyes. My wife is right handed with blue eyes. Our oldest two boys are right handed with my eyes. Our youngest boy is left handed with blue eyes.

Both my grandfathers were lefties with one lefty child- not my parents. I’m a lefty as is my niece whose maternal grandfather is one. It’s crazy to think how inheritance is. I could just as easily be blonde.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:50:42am

re: #520 Eventual Carrion

Can laced Kool-aid be far behind?

Also castration and matching Nike shoes. I hear the shoes are nice, but I’m not a fan of the castration.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:53:20am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:55:35am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:56:03am

re: #527 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“My client doesn’t have a dog, and he always keeps his dog on a leash.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 12:00:03pm

re: #528 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He’s such a fool.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2018 • 12:27:42pm

re: #528 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Alright, everybody, back to the Ministry of Truth to purge the now fake news of yesterday, last week, last month, two years ago. Somebody get Winston Smith on the line.


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