Some More News: If You Don’t Want to Be Called a Fascist, Stop Supporting Donald Trump, a Fascist

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In today’s episode, we conclude our four part series on the rise of President Donald Trump and his brand of fascism, Trumpism. Also, if you don’t like being called a fascist, stop supporting Donald Trump, a fascist who does fascist things all of the time. Stop.

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583 comments
1
Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:51:49pm

If you don’t want to be called a racist …

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VegasGolfer  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:54:56pm

OT

Boo freaking hoo.

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:55:22pm

been saying it since 2015 (pu**ygate)

you support a pig, you’re a pig

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:55:38pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

That’s not completely off-topic, really.

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The Major  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:56:16pm

Eric Holder, who didn’t do squat with the crooks during the Great Recession, actually had the stones to say this:

The thing that worries me most is that a lot of the norms that govern our society are being either challenged or discarded. I think our legal system is holding, and I think people will ultimately be held accountable for any crimes they may have committed.

Just shoot me now.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:56:37pm
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jaunte  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:58:13pm

“…The president’s lawyer himself is denying the president himself hacked into the DNC and the Clinton campaign, which is strange because no one has accused the president of hacking into the DNC or the Clinton campaign,” she said at the top of Monday’s show.

She noted that Giuliani “is now denying that the president himself met with a group of Russians at Trump Tower, which is strange because no one has accused the president of meeting with a group of Russians at Trump Tower.”

Giuliani also denied there was a meeting to talk strategy ahead of the Trump Tower meeting, another thing no one ever alleged.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2018 • 2:58:23pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

Beautiful. These racists keep forgetting that only Trump gets away with that nonsense.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:00:01pm

re: #7 jaunte

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Which then begs the question of if maybe, just maybe, those things that he alleges are lies (that no one has accused Trump of yet) might actually have happened.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:02:31pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

Yeah? Well maybe you shouldn’t be an asshole.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:02:49pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

“I just don’t understand the intensity of the hate,” said the man who drove two miles out of his way to verbally abuse a complete stranger based on the color of his skin.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:03:35pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

Yeah gimme a fucking break.

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gwangung  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:03:48pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

There’s a market for micro-violins here….

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:06:19pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

It has to become more painful for them to act like this in public than the benefit they get from having a president that supports them. I do not feel sorry for him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:06:33pm

re: #13 gwangung

There’s a market for micro-violins here….

Womp womp.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:07:15pm

re: #14 Belafon

It has to become more painful for them to act like this in public than the benefit they get from having a president that supports them. I do not feel sorry for him.

Same thing with these people exposing themselves on Cohen’s show.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:08:08pm

I hate saying it as a white guy but a lot of us are bigoted or indifferent to it.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

I hate saying it as a white guy but a lot of us are bigoted or indifferent to it.

Us white people suck.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:18:20pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:18:45pm

re: #5 The Major

Some people always have to attack the black guy, don’t they?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:18:51pm

re: #18 Belafon

Us white people suck.

Only something like half of us. The rest are mostly OK.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:19:32pm

re: #18 Belafon

Us white people suck.

Many of us do. 😢

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:21:02pm

re: #18 Belafon

Us white people suck.

We are why we got Trump, kept Jim Crow, preserved slavery, etc. I’m not ashamed of being white but proud? Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:22:07pm

re: #22 MsJ

Many of us do. 😢

What I hate is the lack of introspection by my fellow white men. We just don’t get it. And I admit I never fully will.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:25:45pm

re: #13 gwangung

There’s a market for micro-violins here….

Or sad trombones.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:25:50pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

What I hate is the lack of introspection by my fellow white men.

When you’re a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, your focus is on what the latest Barnum is telling you will make you great again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:26:13pm

re: #26 jaunte

When you’re a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, your focus is on what the latest Barnum is telling you will make you great again.

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:26:44pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

What I hate is the lack of introspection by my fellow white men. We just don’t get it. And I admit I never fully will.

Not a problem for this white dude. I feel you though, I really do.

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:28:02pm

re: #26 jaunte

When you’re a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, your focus is on what the latest Barnum is telling you will make you great again.

Barnum’s spiel would at least - probably - be convincing: the appeal of “greatness” as articulated by one of his clowns, not so much…..

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:28:36pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

What I hate is the lack of introspection by my fellow white men. We just don’t get it. And I admit I never fully will.

There’s a mask available for that. but you might get shot by cops while looking black. I don’t know what this guy was thinking,

wcpo.com

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:29:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:30:34pm

A White House demonstration I’d like to see: Flash mob in Russian uniforms goose-steps in with absurdly sycophantic (ie realistic) pro-Trump signs.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:30:34pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

Not a problem for this white dude. I feel you though, I really do.

My conflict is this. I worry that white bigots may see me and think they can get away with that crap not knowing my philosophy or that I have close cousins who are part African American and that I have a Latina niece. Or if they’re a PoC assuming that I’m unsympathetic. I’m polite to all my clients but I go out of my way to be with PoC and especially women.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:31:09pm

re: #31 MsJ

I think you meant “oodles”. Now you’ve made me hungry.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:33:27pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

My conflict is this. I worry that white bigots may see me and think they can get away with that crap not knowing my philosophy or that I have close cousins who are part African American and that I have a Latina niece. Or if they’re a PoC assuming that I’m unsympathetic. I’m polite to all my clients but I go out of my way to be with PoC and especially women.

That’s not something to worry about. It’s an opportunity to shame a racist when they act out because they think you’re one of them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:34:38pm

TBH if I were black especially I’d probably be jaded and confused about this country. We venerate our founders and their words and yet were I black, I’d be even more keenly sensitive to the fact that Jefferson was a lifelong slaveowner. Our contradictions as a nation are part of our national story.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:35:24pm

re: #35 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s not something to worry about. It’s an opportunity to shame a racist when they act out because they think you’re one of them.

For sure. And tbh my Dad has done that when racists think they’re comfortable around him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:42:03pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

TBH if I were black especially I’d probably be jaded and confused about this country. We venerate our founders and their words and yet were I black, I’d be even more keenly sensitive to the fact that Jefferson was a lifelong slaveowner. Our contradictions as a nation are part of our national story.

If you were black, your parents would have told you about the police and racist white people when you were little, and there would be no confusion. You’d know this country’s stated ideals and reality are very different things.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:42:28pm

re: #34 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think you meant “oodles”. Now you’ve made me hungry.

Autocorrect. It makes me look stupid all the time.

Whatever. When I’m on my phone, I’ll just have to cope with looking stupid. It’s apparently all the rage these days anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:42:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:43:42pm

re: #38 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If you were black, your parents would have told you about the police and racist white people when you were little, and there would be no confusion. You’d know this country’s stated ideals and reality are very different things.

Exactly.

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unproven innocence  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:43:49pm

Good ol USA —hostages aplenty here.

Amy Walter and Susan Page on Trump’s shutdown threat, GOP midterm concerns

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:44:51pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When they said drain the swamp, they meant create one just for them. This administration is thoroughly corrupt

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:45:43pm

re: #39 MsJ

Autocorrect. It makes me look stupid all the time.

Whatever. When I’m on my phone, I’ll just have to cope with looking stupid. It’s apparently all the rage these days anyway.

The fact that is not debatable is that I now need some noodles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:47:10pm
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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:47:43pm

re: #44 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The fact that is not debatable is that I now need some noodles.

Like two? Or oodles?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:48:34pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like him as a guy so much more than Jordan.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:48:40pm

Wow. Verbatim.

Never stop taking, Rudes. Never.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:49:46pm

re: #48 MsJ

Wow. Verbatim.

Never stop taking, Rudes. Never.

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Rudy Lionel Hutz.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:50:47pm

re: #38 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If you were black, your parents would have told you about the police and racist white people when you were little, and there would be no confusion. You’d know this country’s stated ideals and reality are very different things.

Very much this. A story I am working on includes a black character. It has been challenging for me to write them convincingly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:50:56pm

re: #46 austin_blue

Like two? Or oodles?

Definitely oodles. I don’t usually get to have rhyming food.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:51:58pm

re: #31 MsJ

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And let us not forget:

In the Wisconsin presidential race, Hillary:
won counties with all-paper ballots
Lost by 1-2% counties with a mix of paper-based systems and paperless machines
Lost by10-15% counties with just paperless voting machines

And Johnson? “He had a 36% approval rating in the leadup to the election.”

I think Wisconsin was at the heart of the shenanigans beyond what anyone has yet discovered.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:53:27pm

re: #52 BeachDem

And let us not forget:

In the Wisconsin presidential race, Hillary:
won counties with all-paper ballots
Lost by 1-2% counties with a mix of paper-based systems and paperless machines
Lost by10-15% counties with just paperless voting machines

And Johnson? “He had a 36% approval rating in the leadup to the election.”

I think Wisconsin was at the heart of the shenanigans beyond what anyone has yet discovered.

Something really stinks here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:54:40pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Something really stinks here.

And it’s not the cheese.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:59:14pm

moron is tweeting more endorsements and whining

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 3:59:41pm

re: #52 BeachDem

And let us not forget:

In the Wisconsin presidential race, Hillary:
won counties with all-paper ballots
Lost by 1-2% counties with a mix of paper-based systems and paperless machines
Lost by10-15% counties with just paperless voting machines

And Johnson? “He had a 36% approval rating in the leadup to the election.”

I think Wisconsin was at the heart of the shenanigans beyond what anyone has yet discovered.

We wouldn’t be vulnerable to tampering if not for the dumbfuckery of the American-right. This should not have been a remotely close election.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:01:31pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is tweeting more endorsements and whining

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The world is laughing at you. Because you’re an illiterate moron.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:01:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:02:08pm

re: #56 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We wouldn’t be vulnerable to tampering if not for the dumbfuckery of the American-right. This should not have been a remotely close election.

The right would have given us to the Nazis if they wanted to.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:02:27pm

re: #58 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Excuse me. The proper term is “tangerine wankmaggot”.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:03:33pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

Very much this. A story I am working on includes a black character. It has been challenging for me to write them convincingly.

Jodi Picoult wrote an interesting article about that issue about her book “Small Great Things.” And this quote from the article is something I think says a lot:

It’s easy to see the headwinds of racism — the obstacles that make it harder for people of color to achieve success. It’s more challenging to see the tailwinds of racism — the ways that being white makes it easier to achieve success.

time.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:03:45pm

re: #60 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Excuse me. The proper term is “tangerine wankmaggot”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:04:01pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:04:59pm

I keep reading that word here…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:06:00pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

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I keep reading that word here…

Shenanigans.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:06:41pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Shenanigans.

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Do not spellcheck the kitteh…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:07:53pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

Do not spellcheck the kitteh…

Not the intent. Shenanigans is used here as a euphemism for “bullshit”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:10:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:13:16pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:14:29pm

Trump threatening government shutdown prior to midterm elections if DNC does not acquiesce to his demands for wall funding.

DNC heard to respond with:

their response
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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:15:27pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

Good.

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:15:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:17:53pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Elliot is a stupid moron. BTW Elliot, Russia isn’t part of America but PR is but go ahead and cry some more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:18:10pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:18:22pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

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I keep reading that word here…

It is one of my favorite words.

Shenanigans!

Fun to write—fun to say.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:19:58pm

re: #52 BeachDem

And let us not forget:

In the Wisconsin presidential race, Hillary:
won counties with all-paper ballots
Lost by 1-2% counties with a mix of paper-based systems and paperless machines
Lost by10-15% counties with just paperless voting machines

And Johnson? “He had a 36% approval rating in the leadup to the election.”

I think Wisconsin was at the heart of the shenanigans beyond what anyone has yet discovered.

Precisely.

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Interesting Times  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:21:24pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Elliot is a stupid moron. BTW Elliot, Russia isn’t part of America but PR is but go ahead and cry some more.

Check out this follow-up:

Translation: durr hurr, only white ppl should be allowed to vote!!!1!!!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:21:38pm

re: #75 BeachDem

It is one of my favorite words.

Shenanigans!

Fun to write—fun to say.

And the word mavens don’t know its origins, other than its first appearance in print around 1855.

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:21:59pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is this laudable?

By leaving, will those two historians simply lose influence in that policy center, leaving the likes of the Trumpers to remain and thus influence the center.

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:22:24pm
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freetoken  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:22:42pm

Looking for silver linings:

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:23:10pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

That one actually tempted me to respond to it. I fought off the urge, and blocked him instead.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:23:45pm

re: #78 wheat-dogg

And the word mavens don’t know its origins, other than its first appearance in print around 1855.

I assumed it was Irish, for no apparent reason.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:24:07pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:25:28pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

I assumed it was Irish, for no apparent reason.

Me too. Like shillelagh or leprechaun, it has a Gaelic sound to it. But Merriam-Webster says nope.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:26:11pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Will get laughed out of court.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:28:21pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Uh no. Sorry Paul. And your sorry ass is too pathetic for Corey Stewart. Who’s the cuck now, bigot?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:28:57pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

Me too. Like shillelagh or leprechaun, it has a Gaelic sound to it. But Merriam-Webster says nope.

I’ve always spelled it “sheananigans”, which looks more Irish, but Firefox’s spellcheck doesn’t like it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:32:53pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

I assumed it was Irish, for no apparent reason.

Surprised it’s not.

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:34:01pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:34:47pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

I assumed it was Irish, for no apparent reason.

Maybe you’ve been to the pub.

theshenaniganspub.com

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:35:27pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Surprised it’s not.

Now that I think about it, the Irish side of my family was pretty hard-working. The Polish and Slovene side was full of shenanigans.

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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:36:39pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is one foul Twitter account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:38:55pm
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Scout  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:39:09pm

re: #81 freetoken

It’s my understanding that in the fullness of time, forest fires are good for forests from the Mother Nature point of view.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:39:28pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

Now that I think about it, the Irish side of my family was pretty hard-working. The Polish and Slovene side was full of shenanigans.

Ah ha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:39:58pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:44:16pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:46:22pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

Trump threatening government shutdown prior to midterm elections if DNC does not acquiesce to his demands for wall funding.

DNC heard to respond with:

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There must be some way to goad Trump into following through. Maybe tell him that only weaklings and cowards make empty threats, and his idiotic wall will never be built!

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:53:16pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dogs can smell guilt. True fact.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:54:17pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

Heh, I posted the original report of this idiot the other day.

Good that he is catching a lot of shit for it.

Though I doubt he learns his lesson. He’ll just become more angry.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2018 • 4:56:02pm

re: #100 sagehen

Dogs can smell guilt. True fact.

That dog is going to roll in the dirt as soon as the door is opened. Sooner
if there are potted plants.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:01:20pm

re: #95 Scout

It’s my understanding that in the fullness of time, forest fires are good for forests from the Mother Nature point of view.

It’s called forest succession. A friend wrote her biology thesis about it.

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jamesfirecat  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:03:09pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Phoenix Wolf, attorney at paw.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:03:33pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I like him as a guy so much more than Jordan.

After all his careers are conquered and LeBron reaches his late 50s, he could run for mayor of Akron and win it…no contest.

They might just give it to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:05:22pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

After all his careers are conquered and LeBron reaches his late 50s, he could run for mayor of Akron and win it…no contest.

They might just give it to him.

And you know what, I think he’d do all right. He cares about the city. That’s a big positive alone.

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:06:56pm

I want this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:08:10pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

re: #106 HappyWarrior

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:09:37pm

re: #107 plansbandc

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I want this.

Here’s a similar pattern to work from.
entropyhouse.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:14:04pm

snowflake…

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fern01  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:16:00pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

OT

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Boo freaking hoo.

What people like this racist don’t understand

trump pays no consequences (at the minute) for what he says and does - everyone else does. trump can say “I didn’t mean that”, no-one else can.

Why trump is treated in this fashion by the media is still beyond understanding, but good to see other racists don’t get the same result.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:16:29pm

so in a few months is rudy gonna be explaining how obstructing a federal investigation into himself and his staff is the most important and honorable thing a president can do and that money laundering for belarussian mafia is the same as accepting donations to the clinton foundation?

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can't think of a decent username  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:19:14pm

re: #112 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so in a few months is rudy gonna be explaining how obstructing a federal investigation into himself and his staff is the most important and honorable thing a president can do and that money laundering for belarussian mafia is the same as accepting donations to the clinton foundation?

“Yes, we went to the town of Muleshoe, Texas, took every single resident into custody, and shipped them to Russia, where they’re being worked to death in uranium mines. Technically, that’s not illegal!”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:19:38pm

trump is the weakest strongman i ever did see or hear about

being an effective fascist dictator takes cunning, persistance, follow through, and hard work

donald got bored and dropped out of dictator school after the third week

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:20:37pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does Tucker think that’s a good look?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:20:55pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

Does Tucker think that’s a good look?

apparently it’s the only one he has.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:21:00pm

re: #114 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump is the weakest strongman i ever did see or hear about

being an effective fascist dictator takes cunning, persistance, follow through, and hard work

donald got bored and dropped out of dictator school after the third week

He paid someone to take his exams.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:21:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:21:27pm

feelgood thread of the day starts with this:

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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:11pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

Does Tucker think that’s a good look?

You’d think with his money he could afford to take an acting class or two.

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:33pm

Here’s your laugh for tonight: I’m listening to the current This Week in Tech (TWiT) podcast, hosted by Leo LaPorte. Guests are rich guy investor Jason Kalicanis and journalist Mike Elgin.

They got on the subject of people getting their news from Facebook. Kalicanis offered up that he listens to extremes on both sides. On the right, he listens to Ben Shapiro.

The extreme left journalist he follows?

…wait for it…

Noted left wing extremist RACHEL MADDOW.

In Kalicanis’s world, Maddow is as out there as Shapiro.

Not to leave no derp unturned, Elgin was extremely impressed by the intellectual heft of National Review.

Fucking Magic Balance Fairy nonsense like this is why we fucking have Trump as President.

Kill me now.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:39pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:41pm

re: #79 freetoken

Is this laudable?

By leaving, will those two historians simply lose influence in that policy center, leaving the likes of the Trumpers to remain and thus influence the center.

Something to consider. Maybe others can back them up and put pressure on the university. A threat to funding and sending students to the school might help.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:44pm

It’s not true. From what I recall, “fake news” was coined by Ukrainian activists trying to repel the avalanche of bullshit coming both from Russia and its allies within Ukraine in the lead up to Maidan and beyond. I wouldn’t be surprised if other Russian neighbors were using it too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:22:57pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:24:37pm

Well shit. Small fire but very threatening to homes.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:24:57pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:25:20pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Funny how that trap keeps missing Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, James Woods, and Kaitlin Bennett.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:27:11pm
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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:31:43pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:34:37pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can we swap Betsy DeVos with LeBron???

He can still play ball too. Just give him the title and he can put some of his business people in charge as his staff and he can oversee what they are doing.

He already has a hell of a grip on what schools need to be for their respective communities.

He’s already doing good stuff along with playing, etc.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:38:26pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

snowflake…

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Dear Matt Gaetz.

Donald Trump used Twitter to bolster his campaign. He still has an account and a whole hell of a lot of people want him to shut up because of all his bullshit. But he still tweets.

How do you explain that?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:41:59pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

Me too. Like shillelagh or leprechaun, it has a Gaelic sound to it. But Merriam-Webster says nope.

I always thought brouhaha was an Irish word but Merriam-Webster says it’s HEBREW!!!

My #2 son likes to make up words and his sister (my #1 daughter) came across the word “brouhaha” in a printed source and wondered how one of his fake words got published. She was surprised to find out that it is a real word.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:42:11pm

Well, yeah…NOW.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:43:18pm

re: #120 Skip Intro

You’d think with his money he could afford to take an acting class or two.

Damn, I thought Tucker was acting now.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:45:33pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

snowflake…

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…a flat form?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:48:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:49:21pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Baffle them with BS routine. That sounds like it.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:51:17pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Wait for it.

Nick Danger Part 1

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:53:15pm

re: #138 PhillyPretzel

Baffle them with BS routine. That sounds like it.

I think Trump doesn’t care what Rudy says, as long as it diverts attention away from Trump for a while.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:53:44pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

Me too. Like shillelagh or leprechaun, it has a Gaelic sound to it. But Merriam-Webster says nope.

This site has many thoughts on it.

english.stackexchange.com

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:54:51pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Giuliani’s being so bad at representing Trump, I have to wonder if this is a deliberate strategy—to put a dancing clown out there who’ll spew incoherent, self-contradictory bullshit just to increase the level of chaos.

8:48 PM - Jul 30, 2018

Might work for the public served by the conservative media. Keep ‘em all riled up.

Not going to mean a damn thing to Mueller other than it will be recorded and seen for what it is.

I think it is even wearing thin for Republican backers. Trump isn’t doing shit other than stuff like this which he seems to put more energy into than presidenting!

Trump and Rudy…instead of just saying they are too clever by half I’m going with a quarter brain each at best.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:55:52pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Or…. claim inadequate counsel when the fecal matter hits the device rotating at high rate of speed.

It’s not going to work, but his audience isn’t the majority of Americans.

It’s always been his bigot brigade base who are reactionary know nothings and who support Trump as an article of faith.

It’s got nothing to do with facts or logic.

Trump and his sycophants know the GOP base will buy everything Trump’s selling, no matter how implausible, and as long as his support is in the 80s, the GOP in Congress will continue their craven and cowardly actions of supporting Trump.

If Trump’s support collapses, the GOP will act - not because it’s the right thing, but to preserve what power they have left.

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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:57:37pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Everybody who speaks for Trump does that.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:57:44pm

Avenatti is (not isn’t) setting Trump up. And Trump’s going to take the bait (he’s so vain and egotistical that he’s going to do it).

Same as with Mueller investigation and testifying. Trump’s got too much ego and not enough common sense to know to STFU.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:58:33pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2018 • 5:58:59pm

I’m glad that Avenatti is doing the job the Democrats should be doing.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:01:24pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

I’m glad that Avenatti is doing the job the Democrats should be doing.

Avenatti is in a better position to be an attack dog. Trump can’t accuse him of being partisan as he would someone from the DNC. Notably, Trump seems unwilling to engage Avenatti at all.

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Citizen K  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:01:35pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Twitter refuses to ban Nazis after they outright call for genocide and harass users in almost every way that breaks the ToS. But yes, sure, the company has a giant conspiracy to silence Republican voices. Right.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:02:23pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

I’m glad that Avenatti is doing the job the Democrats should be doing.

He is this > < close to running for office.

He’s already made some rumblings that way and is now seen as a large part of Democratic resistance.

He is political in other words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:04:15pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:04:29pm

re: #149 Citizen K

Twitter refuses to ban Nazis after they outright call for genocide and harass users in almost every way that breaks the ToS. But yes, sure, the company has a giant conspiracy to silence Republican voices. Right.

A severely mentally-ill guy said that Twitter puts Conservatives in a gulag, and Conservatives went along with the persecution-fantasy. It’s in their nature to imagine persecution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:05:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:07:38pm

Not a big fan of Ari Melber.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:08:48pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

He’s alright, but one hour is enough.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:09:54pm

Pet-related: 12 years ago tomorrow my wife fished this kitty from under my truck at a gig. Despite the sour face, she is the nicest kitty in the universe. Happy Kittyversary, Trixie.

Where’s my money?
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:12:13pm

re: #156 makeitstop

Pet-related: 12 years ago tomorrow my wife fished this kitty from under my truck at a gig. Despite the sour face, she is the nicest kitty in the universe. Happy Kittyversary, Trixie.

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Blink twice if the terrifying cat is making you say that.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:14:21pm

re: #152 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A severely mentally-ill guy said that Twitter puts Conservatives in a gulag, and Conservatives went along with the persecution-fantasy. It’s in their nature to imagine persecution.

And when Toddie set up the TGDN, Michelle Malkin and Twitchy were his biggest fans.

Here’s part of a post I wrote for another site back in 2013 (it was partly what brought me here—when they went after Charles)

ONE DAY IN THE LIFE OF IVAN DENISOVITCH A TRUE POLITICAL PRISONER OF TWITTER GULAG

I want to first establish that I am not a tweeter (although, I have, at some points in my life, been called a twit.) I understand that Twitter can be an effective means of communication and expression, but from where I sit, I think that about 80% of everything I’ve seen in the Twitterverse would be more at home in a junior high school cafeteria. No offense meant to Tweeters—It’s just that I have just seen many politicians and others hoisted by their own Tweetards, (Grassley, Brown) and it seems there is so much mindless twattle being tweeted that it seems to do more harm than good.

Which leads me to TWITTER GULAG!!!! I won’t go into much depth about this (extremely shallow) phenomenon. From what I can gather, it began with a bunch of right wing tweeters spamming other peoples’ Twitter accounts, in violation of Twitter’s Terms of Service, and having their accounts temporarily blocked.

That’s right, Twitter—a private enterprise offering a free service, exercised their ability to make users follow the rules. Period. Paragraph.

Enter Michelle Malkin’s Twitchy (could she be any more melodramatic?)

The Left wants to wear down conservatives until they crawl away defeated, tails between their battered and bloody legs. Silencing the Right is not enough; they want conservatives to disappear from the public sphere. We hope these Twitter vigilantes aren’t holding their breath—conservatives don’t retreat, we reload.

Suddenly, this became the biggest infringement on human rights the world had ever known. Suddenly, right wing tweeters were being persecuted and tortured beyond anything previously known to man.

Twitter Gulag prompted dramatic tweets like:

Free @mark85nh from #twittergulag . A Great Conservative that is targeted by the twitter nazis.

Inside the most extreme #Gulag in the #TwitterGulag where not freedom of expresion applies, is our @twitter friend @BranceLong #TGDN10 #Evil

And of course, messages such as:

In honor of #truth warrior just taken down to #twittergulag @charlewar YES OBAMA IS A #MUSLIM LIAR! There, reply on record.

They even have a website devoted to addressing the horrors suffered by Twitter Gulag residents.

They seem to mostly blame Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs (they “gathered intel” and everything!) for this dastardly plot, although it appears to me that Charles spends most of his time laughing at them. Some of the comments at that site:

Mutual Assured Destruction kept the peace in the Cold War; it will work in the Twitter Wars.

I’m back in the Gulag! I sent a couple of sarcastic tweets toward @Toure, Now I’m in Siberia.

I was just speaking with another about how we might begin to play by their rules—draw first blood, implement first strike

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:14:24pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Not a big fan of Ari Melber.

Mrs. FBW, OTOH, thinks he’s the Bee’s Knees. Calls him Ari Melba Toast. I think it’s because he’s significantly cuter than I am.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:14:34pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Not a big fan of Ari Melber.

I do like Natasha though………..

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VegasGolfer  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:15:16pm

I can put up with Ari to watch Natasha…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:15:44pm

re: #157 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Blink twice if the terrifying cat is making you say that.

I think the cat has a normal cat face, but the location of the coloration makes him/her look pugnacious.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:18:11pm
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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:19:14pm

re: #156 makeitstop

Pet-related: 12 years ago tomorrow my wife fished this kitty from under my truck at a gig. Despite the sour face, she is the nicest kitty in the universe. Happy Kittyversary, Trixie.

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If ever there was a feline who deserved to be featured on the Death Metal Cats Twitter feed, it’s Trixie.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:19:22pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the cat has a normal cat face, but the location of the coloration makes him/her look pugnacious.

She’s also got orthodontic issues - one of her bottom teeth snaggles out. That’s what gives her the Billy Idol sneer.

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:20:37pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the cat has a normal cat face, but the location of the coloration makes him/her look pugnacious.

The flame above the eyes on the head and the coloring shapes of the nose give it that whole look.

Goes to this…

You Can’t Judge A Book By The Cover ~ Cactus

(Sorry…had to get this version in…)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:21:15pm

re: #165 makeitstop

She’s also got orthodontic issues - one of her bottom teeth snaggles out. That’s what gives her the Billy Idol sneer.

Perhaps you should take her to a Veterinary Orthodontist.

It’s a…nice day for a…bite vetting….

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:21:31pm

re: #158 BeachDem

And when Toddie set up the TGDN, Michelle Malkin and Twitchy were his biggest fans.

Here’s part of a post I wrote for another site back in 2013 (it was partly what brought me here—when they went after Charles)

Oops—I left out the part about TGDN and Kincannon

And then came #TGDN—The TWITTER GULAG DEFENSE NETWORK. Started by slick operative, Todd Kincannon, a former South Carolina (of course) Republican Party Executive Director, who had famously posted such humorous tweets as:

@ToddKincannon: “The Crabby Cunt from the California Coast”? #NancyPelosi

@ToddKincannon: Or how about “The Botox Bitch from Buggeryland”? That seems to work for Nancy Pelosi too.

@ToddKincannon: Would you prefer Nancy the Crooked Whore? More accurate, but also more words.

Kincannon and his band of merry madmen decided to fight hashtags with hashtags (or some such nonsense) by following each other in mass numbers to avoid the Twitter Gulag. (I confess, I don’t understand half of what these people say or do, so forgive me if my explanations are not quite on the mark.)

This TGDN nonsense goes on and on at a frenzied pitch, and now Kincannon is soliciting funds to hire an assistant because it has become impossible for him to keep up with all the work. (I request that someone in comments please explain to me what costs are involved in having a hashtag—I truly don’t understand.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:23:23pm

re: #139 wheat-dogg

Wait for it.

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Video

Reminds me of this classic

chickenman episode 1

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:24:35pm

Watching the Phils battle the Red Sox. Both teams are in first place in their divisions. However, the Sox are 41 games above .500.

If the Phils, who are turning out to be a great team this year, were in the AL East, they’d be 18 games out of first. Absolutely incredible.

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:27:38pm

While I’m yammering, HTML question for Charles:

When I type italics I usually type out bracket i, as opposed to the bracket em that your dedicated button does.

I think bracket i is being deprecated, but does it matter one way another to you, or how the site runs?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:29:55pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:30:06pm

I did a little more work on the California battle flag. I did not like the red star, obscure origin sure to be seen as commie. So I altered that a bit with some sunset tone. Might be fun to do similar workup of a couple other state flags.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:31:13pm

re: #171 Mattand

Internally it gets converted to -em- anyway, so no worries.

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:32:11pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Internally it gets converted to anyway, so no worries.

Danke!

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:32:20pm

re: #171 Mattand

While I’m yammering, HTML question for Charles:

When I type italics I usually type out bracket i, as opposed to the bracket em that your dedicated button does.

I think bracket i, is being deprecated, but does it matter one way another to you, or how the site runs?

I used the old school tags (i for italics, b for bold) for the longest time here. Now I just highlight the word and hit the applicable button.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:33:49pm

Rudy Giuliani Says Collusion Is Not a Crime: A Closer Look

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:36:18pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

I have to deal with the latter group when we visit my partner’s parents. She’ll sit there and watch that shit with her mother. I don’t know how she does it. I’ve tried but I just want to throw a cinder block at the TV.

As soon as Hannity goes on, I leave the room. I make no effort to hide my disgust.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:38:20pm

Well just pissed off a few republicans. I called the GOP The party of surrender for giving up on California gun control, legislative houses and the top executive. Too cowardly to stand up to coastal liberals, too cheap to stand up to sitcom studio dollars. Formidable as a squirrel.

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Mattand  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:38:26pm

re: #176 makeitstop

I used the old school tags (i for italics, b for bold) for the longest time here. Now I just highlight the word and hit the applicable button.

I should use the buttons, but I’m a touch typist. It’s a bit more efficient for me to not leave the keyboard and type out the tags.

As for using “i” instead of “em”? “i” is only one letter.

Yes, I am that lazy.

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mmmirele  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:40:25pm

I don’t normally post stuff from Fox News, but I believe strongly in what Sam Young is doing here in calling the Mormon church to account for one-on-one bishop interviews with youth that include questions like, “do you live the law of chastity?” These interviews start before a child’s eighth birthday and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the kids don’t know what the bishop is talking about and some bishops take it upon themselves to tell the kids exactly what is meant. And, as the kids get older, bishops ask more probing questions about whether the youth is keeping the law of chastity and that includes asking if they masturbate, if they have sex with other people and it can get an awful lot worse and more detailed.

The Mormon church is digging in its heels and wants to keep up this awful practice of having untrained men (we’re talking your average accountant or systems administrator called as bishop) asking these questions on at least a yearly basis. The fact is that a lot of kids are traumatized by these questions. Sam Young is across the street from Temple Square putting the Mormon church on the spot over this practice.

Here’s the Fox News link: foxnews.com

Here’s his website with the stories of children and youth: protectldschildren.org

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:44:47pm

re: #180 Mattand

I should use the buttons, but I’m a touch typist. It’s a bit more efficient for me to not leave the keyboard and type out the tags.

As for using “i” instead of “em”? “i” is only one letter.

Yes, I am that lazy.

That’s why I kept doing it for so long. :)

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Chrysicat  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:46:46pm

Totes coincidence I tweeted this while this thread was live; I hadn’t even been on my PC until now and I never access LGF via phone:

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:47:50pm

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Almost Cut My Hair

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:49:03pm

re: #173 Unshaken Defiance

I’m liking your work! Beautiful design!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:51:17pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:55:45pm

re: #184 gocart mozart

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:57:23pm

He’s patting himself on the back for stopping something that he started.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 6:59:03pm

re: #181 mmmirele

I don’t normally post stuff from Fox News, but I believe strongly in what Sam Young is doing here in calling the Mormon church to account for one-on-one bishop interviews with youth that include questions like, “do you live the law of chastity?” These interviews start before a child’s eighth birthday and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the kids don’t know what the bishop is talking about and some bishops take it upon themselves to tell the kids exactly what is meant. And, as the kids get older, bishops ask more probing questions about whether the youth is keeping the law of chastity and that includes asking if they masturbate, if they have sex with other people and it can get an awful lot worse and more detailed.

The Mormon church is digging in its heels and wants to keep up this awful practice of having untrained men (we’re talking your average accountant or systems administrator called as bishop) asking these questions on at least a yearly basis. The fact is that a lot of kids are traumatized by these questions. Sam Young is across the street from Temple Square putting the Mormon church on the spot over this practice.

Here’s the Fox News link: foxnews.com

Here’s his website with the stories of children and youth: protectldschildren.org

*takes deep breaths, tries to calm down for the second time on this issue*

Doing everything wrong, and it’s been known for at least 30 years that it is harmful among researchers. It basically boils down to the psychological damage mechanisms related to sexual abuse.
- Consent. Force, coercion or trickery, even when asking children about sexual matters causes harm.
- Knowledge. Going too far outside the child’s knowledge base on sexual matters causes harm.
- Judgemental group moral norms. A judgemental attitude of the group the child belongs to also does harm, it is entirely possible to cause more harm by judgemental norms than the sexual abuse itself.
- Emotional support. Lack of emotional support from family and close friends also causes harm, to the same extent as above, it is possible to cause more harm than the sexual trauma itself. It’s so important that when good emotional support is available, good recovery from pretty horrific sexual abuse is possible.
Only real difference between children and adults is that children are more likely to be harmed and that the harm is greater when it occurs.

I’ve read the symptom lists on his site, and it does not surprise me the least that this practice has left people scarred for life.

*breathes fire*

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stpaulbear  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:01:34pm

re: #187 Unshaken Defiance

In your defense sir, I must say “Ohio”. That shaped my resolve for a lifetime.

Pssst - Neil Young wrote that song.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:05:47pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

True though I was thinking more performed than wrote. But damn.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:06:04pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

Pssst - Neil Young wrote that song.

And Stills played the kick-ass solo, I think (but I confess, I’m not a David Crosby fan).

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:06:40pm

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:07:08pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

Pssst - Neil Young wrote that song.

I was going to mention that…but I didn’t want to upset Unshaken D over the damage done.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:08:35pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

Thanks, and it’s gone. A reminder to take a minute…

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Amory Blaine  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:27:14pm

I may have some lens cleaning questions for you guys later. Got my 8” Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope telescope back from storage and it’s a little rough and may have to disassemble it for a cleaning.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:28:30pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

I was going to mention that…but I didn’t want to upset Unshaken D over the damage done.

Hey hey!!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:31:15pm

The rot goes all the way to the bottom:

The Nation: Russiagate Is Far Wider Than Trump and His Inner Circle

It isn’t just the story of a few corrupt officials, or even a corrupt president. It’s the story of a corrupt Republican Party.

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mmmirele  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:31:32pm

It’s windy and orange to the northwest…a dust storm is blowing through the eastern Phoenix area.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:33:06pm

re: #196 Amory Blaine

I may have some lens cleaning questions for you guys later. Got my 8” Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope telescope back from storage and it’s a little rough and may have to disassemble it for a cleaning.

Check manual for instructions, pick professionals minds.
1) Document entire process, stills/video.
2) 50/50 DI Water/Isopropyl Alcohol or maybe even 40/60.
3) Non-lint, non-abrasive cloth.
4) Don’t overdo it, only enough to remove crud.

I would begin with a spray/soak, then put the cloth on it without moving it over the lens to get the first layers of crud off, until the cloth is clean after the procedure. This is to get as much abrasive particles off as possible before you try to rub.
3+4 can be replaced with wipes for photo gear or glasses.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:35:06pm

re: #199 mmmirele

It’s windy and orange to the northwest…a dust storm is blowing through the eastern Phoenix area.

I started reading this sentence and I thought you were going to say tRump was coming….

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:39:51pm

re: #196 Amory Blaine

I may have some lens cleaning questions for you guys later. Got my 8” Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope telescope back from storage and it’s a little rough and may have to disassemble it for a cleaning.

If the primary and secondary mirrors need cleaning, be very, very careful not to scratch the coatings. Start with the objective first before dismantling things to get inside. Also check the eyepiece for dust before tearing into the inside.

I had a Nikkor lens that got lens fungus. Never knew there was such a thing. It takes care to clean off, and if it gets in deep, the lens is toast.

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stpaulbear  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:44:07pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

I was going to mention that…but I didn’t want to upset Unshaken D over the damage done.

Well, there’s a little part of it in everyone…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:50:22pm

In about an hour I will be airborne, en route to the USA. Try to keep things under control for the next 14 hours or so. I don’t want any unpleasant surprises when I land.

Coming soon to a time zone near you!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:52:48pm

re: #204 wheat-dogg

In about an hour I will be airborne, en route to the USA. Try to keep things under control for the next 14 hours or so. I don’t want any unpleasant surprises when I land.

Coming soon to a time zone near you!

If your journeys include Los Angles please consider a visit.

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2018 • 7:53:07pm

re: #204 wheat-dogg

In about an hour I will be airborne, en route to the USA. Try to keep things under control for the next 14 hours or so. I don’t want any unpleasant surprises when I land.

Coming soon to a time zone near you!

Safe travels!
Just remember to only drink bottled water when you get here…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:02:53pm

re: #205 Unshaken Defiance

If your journeys include Los Angles please consider a visit.

I appreciate the invite, but my schedule this time only includes family visits to flyover country.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:03:31pm

re: #206 Jay C

Safe travels!
Just remember to only drink bottled water when you get here…

Ha. I’m used to that here in Asia.

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:18:39pm
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Frenchy  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:21:09pm

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

“Illegal families”…fuck you! *spit*

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:23:37pm
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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:47:13pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

Dear God, I hope not.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:48:35pm

re: #204 wheat-dogg

In about an hour I will be airborne, en route to the USA. Try to keep things under control for the next 14 hours or so. I don’t want any unpleasant surprises when I land.

Coming soon to a time zone near you!

Safe trip! May you have a carefree flight, to the extent that’s possible nowadays.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:52:09pm

This story from south Texas has the Faux news fans hooting, screeching and capering like meth-deranged organ-grinder’s monkeys: Texas mall robbery suspects ID’d as Mexican nationals in US illegally
The 7 masterminds attempted to rob a jewelry store in a mall in McAllen Texas. They were unarmed, thereby proving that they are not qualified to work as robbers in the United States.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:52:51pm

re: #212 retired cynic

Maybe it’s my state of mind, I don’t have high hopes. The “left” in this country are feckless and moronic during mid term elections, always has been as long as I’ve been alive. I think Ted Cruz is going to get reelected. I think my district will reelect Scott Tipton (he has four times as much money as his Democratic opponent Diane Mitsch Bush), I don’t think either the House or Senate will flip. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:56:19pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

I have just got to keep believing that the groundswell of anti-Trump is big enough to swing the thing. Those kids from Parkland have me believing.

I’m stuck here in a red zone, but there are a lot of people who just don’t understand what the heck he is doing, and I am hoping they realize that he has no rationale except self-interest, self-gain.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:56:20pm

I’ve about accepted that my country of origin is chock full of ignorant bigots who vote in every election no matter what. Our system is so broken, their power will not wane. If things don’t go the way us good people want this election to go in November (flip one or both houses) then our democracy is finished, we’ll be like fascist Italy by summer of 2019.

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 8:58:21pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

Nope. I won’t believe it. Don’t you go believing it, either!

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:00:22pm

re: #218 retired cynic

From what I’m seeing on the ground and in various social media, it’s very hard for me to believe that Democrats will prevail in November. Wingnuts are too motivated, they have all the levers of power and they’ll do just about anything to keep that power, including killing their political opponents in the streets.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:01:12pm

Oh, Jeff Flake, you sly devil, you.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:03:18pm

Rough transcript of a Facebook exchange I had with a red hat motherfucker I’ve known since the third grade, from sometime last week:

My “friend:” Fascism is better than socialism.

Me: Would you kill me if I didn’t side with the fascists?

MF: Yeah, I would, actually.

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:03:33pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

Sounds like a good time to take a break from social media for a few days.

I went out and worked in the yard, after the first really good rain we have had this year. Planted a couple of shrubs I’ve had sitting on my porch for weeks: it has just been too hot and dry to plant them. We’re in a cloudy, cool, drizzly spell, and I hope they can get established.

Also spent some time sorting through boxes of old papers, and filing them where I can find them. Felt good to get dirty.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:04:37pm

re: #222 retired cynic

I’ve checked Twitter and Facebook roughly for two hours over the last three days. I have been avoiding it for the most part.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:06:25pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

A guy I’ve known since elementary school would kill me in the next Civil War without any compunction. Maybe y’all can see why I’m pessimistic about the future.

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:07:01pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

He is unbelievable!

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:07:33pm

re: #225 retired cynic

He’s an asshole. And he’s well armed.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:07:51pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

I’ve checked Twitter and Facebook roughly for two hours over the last three days. I have been avoiding it for the most part.

That’s your best bet, even temporarily.

A similar thing happened to me with Facebook. The sheer amount of misinformation and the stupid, crazy shit people are willing to believe really started to piss me off. I bailed for two weeks solid, and now I check it every so often for band business.

I’m feeling so much better since I don’t keep a FB tab open and check it every ten minutes.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:17:18pm

Trump meeting with Rouhani / Kim / Putin / Xi without preconditions would not be so bad if Trump wasn’t also meeting Rouhani / Kim / Putin / Xi without a clue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:20:43pm

Re: EDIT: It was America, not Neil Young

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TedStriker  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:22:53pm

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: Neil Young

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America, not Neil Young, BTW.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:24:12pm

I just saw that Ron Dellums died yesterday. If you don’t know about him, read his obit in the WaPo. He was really something.

Ronald V. Dellums, who entered the U.S. House of Representatives in 1971 as a fiery anti-war activist from Berkeley and grew over 14 terms into a deft and respected legislator, becoming the first African American to chair the Armed Services Committee and helping win the fight to impose economic sanctions on apartheid South Africa, died July 30.

washingtonpost.com

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Chrysicat  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:24:59pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:26:11pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:28:36pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:28:50pm

re: #231 BeachDem

re: #231 BeachDem

He was my representative for many years. Quite a person indeed.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:29:08pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

A guy I’ve known since elementary school would kill me in the next Civil War without any compunction. Maybe y’all can see why I’m pessimistic about the future.

Obligatory response:
“I wouldn’t call it a war exactly — that suggests both sides stand an equal chance of winning.”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:35:10pm

Teleskiguy, we’ve been winning seats steadily, sometimes in places we had never imagined we might. The Repugs are on the defensive. The polls suggest a blue wave strong enough to overcome gerrymandering. Stop dwelling on the negatives and ditch your murderous “friends.”

And find some political work to do. You’ll be associating with a better class of people, and you’ll be doing something useful toward banishing your nightmares.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:35:51pm

RIP, Rep. Dellums.

I sure remember how ol Spiro Agnew continually attacked him. But he had the last laugh when Agnew resigned. Met him at several DSOC (predecessor of DSA) events. Powerful speaker.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:45:44pm

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

EDIT: It was America, not Neil Young.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:48:21pm

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

RIP, Rep. Dellums.

I sure remember how ol Spiro Agnew continually attacked him. But he had the last laugh when Agnew resigned. Met him at several DSOC (predecessor of DSA) events. Powerful speaker.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:49:58pm

re: #236 Teukka

Obligatory response:
“I wouldn’t call it a war exactly — that suggests both sides stand an equal chance of winning.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:50:43pm

re: #237 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

This sounds condescending as all hell. I know context and nuance lacks on the internet, but this pisses me off. You think I don’t know about Democratic victories? You think I haven’t ditched my “friend” by now? I guess I’m just a dumb fuck.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:52:40pm

re: #240 BeachDem

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:56:07pm

What happens if this “blue wave” doesn’t happen? I think that’s something that maybe folks should plan for. I’m thinking asylum in Norway.

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majii  Jul 30, 2018 • 9:57:34pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

Strange that you mentioned taking pets to the vet. I had to take Penelope Penny to an emergency vet hospital Saturday afternoon in a nearby city, over 40 miles away, because she had had a severe case of diarrhea for several days, was very weak, couldn’t stand on her own and refused water and food. After running some tests, including a blood test, the vet diagnosed her with colitis, gave her a prescription med, put in some sort of liquid-filled implant that left a lump on her left side, probiotic supplements, and special cans of food. It cost me over $300, but it was worth every cent. The next morning, Ms. Penelope Penny was back to her usual cheerful, bounding all over the place self. I’m still giving her the soft food and the medicine. She’s fighting me on taking the liquid medicine, but I’m forcing her to do it, and it’s working well. The things we humans do for our pet overlords and/or ladies.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:01:46pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

This sounds condescending as all hell. I know context and nuance lacks on the internet, but this pisses me off. You think I don’t know about Democratic victories? You think I haven’t ditched my “friend” by now? I guess I’m just a dumb fuck.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:04:11pm

re: #246 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The quotation marks around the word friend didn’t give it away.

Right on.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:04:44pm

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:04:50pm

I guess I should leave since I’m such a fucking bummer.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:06:53pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

This sounds condescending as all hell. I know context and nuance lacks on the internet, but this pisses me off. You think I don’t know about Democratic victories? You think I haven’t ditched my “friend” by now? I guess I’m just a dumb fuck.

re: #246 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:11:41pm

I like to believe that the greater good will eventually prevail.

We’ve survived a Depression, two World Wars, a Cold war, multiple recessions, 9/11 and two Iraq Wars.

We can survive this asshole President. There’s only one of him and a fuck of a lot more of us. The fight isn’t over, it’s only just beginning.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:12:07pm

re: #249 teleskiguy

I guess I should leave since I’m such a fucking bummer.

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JordanRules  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:12:45pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:14:00pm

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

I like to believe that the greater good will eventually prevail.

We’ve survived a Depression, two World Wars, a Cold war, multiple recessions, 9/11 and two Iraq Wars.

We can survive this asshole President. There’s only one of him and a fuck of a lot more of us. The fight isn’t over, it’s only just beginning.

I’m reading a biography of Orwell and Churchill. They survived the 1930s. And the 1940s.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:20:11pm

re: #250 Teukka

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:32:37pm

an appropriate level of 21st cen privacy in crowded public places is achieved by burying your face in your phone

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:39:48pm

US intelligence says North Korea is building new missiles

among other things that it is impossible for trump supporters to know

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:40:46pm

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

I like to believe that the greater good will eventually prevail.

We’ve survived a Depression, two World Wars, a Cold war, multiple recessions, 9/11 and two Iraq Wars.

We can survive this asshole President. There’s only one of him and a fuck of a lot more of us. The fight isn’t over, it’s only just beginning.

And don’t forget that the GOP admin not just a threat to the United States, but the world as a whole. More and more outside the US are beginning to realize that.

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JordanRules  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:44:15pm
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Scout  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:46:02pm

re: #237 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

And find some political work to do.

This is important for all of us. Posting and reading messages here is all fine and good (and fun), but it’s out there in the real world, getting out the vote, that is going to save the United States of America from fascism.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:25pm

Words I could go the rest of my life not hearing in a political context anymore:

1. Woke

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:47:39pm

re: #258 Teukka

I’ve been reviewing the Klingon ritual of
discommendation. Simple, direct, no remarks needed.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2018 • 10:51:50pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Words I could go the rest of my life not hearing in a political context anymore:

1. Woke

2. Firebrand

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:03:02pm

re: #262 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’ve been reviewing the Klingon ritual of discommendation. Simple, direct, no remarks needed.

*nods* Another, when in a group of like-minded, is acting like you are one, like some hivemind. Guaranteed to give people the Heebee Jeebies…

Another tactic is not to look them in the eye, but rather something some distance behind them in terms of focus, but otherwise eyes looking in the same direction they would if you were looking them in the eye. Also generates unease.

Practice dropping out of sight unexpectedly (e.g. quickly disappearing around a corner when you are expected to go forward), and do so after close encounters of the MAGA kind. Also makes people uneasy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:18:25pm

Checking in from Strathmore, Alberta. We’ve come down out of the Rocky Mountains and are in Mythical Time Zone once again (so our internal clocks are right).

We’re getting hit by one helluva thunderstorm right now. That crap is why we went to Yukon in the first place.

According to the lawyer at home, the electrical work was supposed to be finished on Saturday, then the required inspections done Monday. If that in fact occurred, we should have electricity in a day or two.

I already wrote we expect to be in Regina on August 2, at which point we will make the final decision whether to make another lap around to Yukon (or maybe a lap around the Maritime Provinces).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:20:24pm

re: #258 Teukka

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:23:03pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Words I could go the rest of my life not hearing in a political context anymore:

1. Woke

re: #263 BeachDem

2. Firebrand

3. Outsider.

Conservatives are none of those things.

I’m off to bed … let’s hope the lightning doesn’t bar-b-que us tonight… .

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JordanRules  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:25:42pm

Cleanest Chucks I ever did see.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:37:54pm

Trans women saying that the Department of State is retroactively revoking passports for “failing to disclose” gender reassignment surgery (which was never a requirement to reveal), sometimes from decades ago.

More of the New Conservative Cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty.

More at: them.us

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JordanRules  Jul 30, 2018 • 11:45:57pm

Molly Ivins would be proud.

McFadden & Whitehead for the treason soundtrack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:03:10am

sure thing Rudy…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:05:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:12:00am

story thread about a road that really isn’t a road and satnav shenanigans.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:15:40am
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:17:21am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:35:22am

Late stage capitalism is a trip.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:37:47am

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This story from south Texas has the Faux news fans hooting, screeching and capering like meth-deranged organ-grinder’s monkeys: Texas mall robbery suspects ID’d as Mexican nationals in US illegally
The 7 masterminds attempted to rob a jewelry store in a mall in McAllen Texas. They were unarmed, thereby proving that they are not qualified to work as robbers in the United States.

I point out its a shame that Trump has shifted resources away from deporting violent criminals to deporting people living and working peacefully and raising families.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:40:40am

re: #220 makeitstop

Oh, Jeff Flake, you sly devil, you.

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Flake did something besides bloviate? That’s a pleasant surprise.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:41:52am

re: #221 teleskiguy

Rough transcript of a Facebook exchange I had with a red hat motherfucker I’ve known since the third grade, from sometime last week:

Unfriend that asshole.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:46:00am

re: #234 Belafon

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Cross my fingers and hope that Venezuelans can make an asylum request the Trump Administration would actually respect since Trump hates that regime so much he wanted to invade and overthrow it.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:47:43am

re: #279 Big Beautiful Door

Unfriend that asshole.

You think I haven’t?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:59:24am

re: #260 Scout

This is important for all of us. Posting and reading messages here is all fine and good (and fun), but it’s out there in the real world, getting out the vote, that is going to save the United States of America from fascism.

Inspired me to go to Amy McGrath’s website, make a donation and volunteer; thanks!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 31, 2018 • 1:59:27am

re: #278 Big Beautiful Door

Flake did something besides bloviate? That’s a pleasant surprise.

Color me skeptical. Flake has not to date shown any real courage when it comes to actual votes. Is it confirmed that Flake will be away most of August? And what is required to vote a nomination out of the judiciary committee? Can the Majority Leader bypass a tie vote and force a vote on the floor? If so, can’t Pence then cast the deciding vote to confirm?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:01:50am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

Trans women saying that the Department of State is retroactively revoking passports for “failing to disclose” gender reassignment surgery (which was never a requirement to reveal), sometimes from decades ago.

More of the New Conservative Cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty.

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More at: them.us

Most pro-LGBTQ President evah!/

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:06:44am

re: #281 teleskiguy

You think I haven’t?

Good, now do something positive like make a donation or volunteer to help a candidate instead of being all Debbie Downer.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:08:13am

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

Color me skeptical. Flake has not to date shown any real courage when it comes to actual votes. Is it confirmed that Flake will be away most of August? And what is required to vote a nomination out of the judiciary committee? Can the Majority Leader bypass a tie vote and force a vote on the floor? If so, can’t Pence then cast the deciding vote to confirm?

If Flake isn’t there to vote on the floor, the Democrats can block any nominee they want if they all vote no, since McCain isn’t available.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:11:04am

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

Good, now do something positive like make a donation or volunteer to help a candidate instead of being all Debbie Downer.

You think I haven’t done such things for my local candidates for office?

Fuck you.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:13:26am

Yeah, I’m just a keyboard warrior. I’m an ineffectual dumbass who doesn’t participate in local politics.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:16:26am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

If Flake isn’t there to vote on the floor, the Democrats can block any nominee they want if they all vote no, since McCain isn’t available.

But then it’s a 49-49 tie; can’t Pence then cast the deciding vote?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:27:48am

re: #287 teleskiguy

You think I haven’t done such things for my local candidates for office?

Fuck you.

Why would I think you would bother since you believe they are going to lose anyway? You might as well buy your ticket to Norway now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:28:56am

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

But then it’s a 49-49 tie; can’t Pence then cast the deciding vote?

I admit I’m not sure about that.

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teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:31:32am

re: #290 Big Beautiful Door

Thanks for the vote of confidence, asshole. Hopefully I’ll be dead before shit gets real.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:33:55am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:37:00am

re: #293 Dave In Austin

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Was it around the time that the Satanic Cult hysteria swept the country in the eighties maybe?

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:48:09am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

What no one is saying is that with the exponential increase of condensed populations, these things will always show a marked increase. As a kid in the burbs Of Chicago and Phx, AZ, I was out at dawn and didn’t get in until after dark. All the neighbors would feed us. Too many people now and we don’t know our neighbors. We also quit rolling our newborns in the dirt to make them strong and healthy.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:49:32am

re: #268 JordanRules

I know it’s a posed picture, but really, why pruning shears on (basically) seedling vegetables? Who the fuck uses pruning shears in a kitchen garden, ever?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:54:24am

re: #296 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I know it’s a posed picture, but really, why pruning shears on (basically) seedling vegetables? Who the fuck uses pruning shears in a kitchen garden, ever?

I find them very handy for field dressing zucchini.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 2:56:26am

re: #297 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Gut ‘em quickly from stem to stern?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2018 • 3:04:50am

re: #295 Dave In Austin

What no one is saying is that with the exponential increase of condensed populations, these things will always show a marked increase. As a kid in the burbs Of Chicago and Phx, AZ, I was out at dawn and didn’t get in until after dark. All the neighbors would feed us. Too many people now and we don’t know our neighbors. We also quit rolling our newborns in the dirt to make them strong and healthy.

Though it doesn’t have to be that way.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 31, 2018 • 3:05:52am

Timely sign:

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 3:11:02am

re: #299 Big Beautiful Door

Though it doesn’t have to be that way.

Excellent! We are such prudes…

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A Mom Anon  Jul 31, 2018 • 3:53:05am

re: #244 teleskiguy

Some of us have nowhere to go and no means to get there so we have to stay and fight, regardless of odds or outcomes. And some of us are stuck in the fucking South. I’d trade with you in a minute.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:11:22am

And we’re off…..

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:13:18am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

And we’re off…..

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The GOP leadership before day’s end:

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:16:47am

In any other administration, the news that one of the biggest money bags for the GOP was breaking ties to support the DNC would be met with restraint and bitterness, but it would still be in a civil tone. But Donny’s ego cannot tolerate any dissent in the ranks, so he’s going to do exactly the wrong thing: Attack the Kochs and thus put the GOP in the very uncomfortable spot of defending either him or their sugar daddies.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:23:52am

re: #304 Targetpractice

I’m going to bet that’s breakfast….

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:42:32am

So the battle line’s pretty clearly drawn: You’re either with Trump or you’re with the Kochs.

I need more popcorn.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 4:44:47am

re: #307 Targetpractice

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So the battle line’s pretty clearly drawn: You’re either with Trump or you’re with the Kochs.

I need more popcorn.

Manafort trial starts today. Preznit Asshole is gonna be lashing out at everybody.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:02:12am

“Quick, there’s still something nailed down over there!”

So remember class, going behind Congress’ back to save thousands of Dreamers from deportation is a massive violation of the Constitution, but giving yet another tax break to the richest 1%? Why, that’s perfectly legit because IOKIYAR.

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jeffreyw  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:03:11am

Imgur

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Good morning!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:03:38am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:04:26am

re: #307 Targetpractice

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So the battle line’s pretty clearly drawn: You’re either with Trump or you’re with the Kochs.

I need more popcorn.

This wasn’t the WWIII I was expecting, but it’ll do.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:05:51am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

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Why do I get the feeling that when Mueller finally does slap one or more members of the Trump family with conspiracy charges, the cry from the wingnuts will be “CONSPIRACY IS NOT COLLUSION!!!”?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:32:09am

re: #313 Targetpractice

Why do I get the feeling that when Mueller finally does slap one or more members of the Trump family with conspiracy charges, the cry from the wingnuts will be “CONSPIRACY IS NOT COLLUSION!!!”?

Conspiracy is not a Crime! Not illegal!

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:35:17am

re: #305 Targetpractice

In any other administration, the news that one of the biggest money bags for the GOP was breaking ties to support the DNC would be met with restraint and bitterness, but it would still be in a civil tone. But Donny’s ego cannot tolerate any dissent in the ranks, so he’s going to do exactly the wrong thing: Attack the Kochs and thus put the GOP in the very uncomfortable spot of defending either him or their sugar daddies.

I wonder if in November the American public will demonstrate how tired they are of all of this. The ranting, the bullying, the blaming, the whining, the lying. Here’s hoping.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:36:48am

re: #313 Targetpractice

Why do I get the feeling that when Mueller finally does slap one or more members of the Trump family with conspiracy charges, the cry from the wingnuts will be “CONSPIRACY IS NOT COLLUSION!!!”?

I actually saw someone on Twitter the other day use the argument of ‘After looking for a year and finding no collusion, Mueller’s moved on to obstruction…’

Like an obstruction of justice charge is equivalent to a jaywalking ticket or something.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:43:10am

re: #296 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I know it’s a posed picture, but really, why pruning shears on (basically) seedling vegetables? Who the fuck uses pruning shears in a kitchen garden, ever?

Morning!

I bet someone ran out to a hardware store because something “garden tool” was needed for the photo. And whoever bought the tool had no idea what a pruning shear was used for in gardening.

I think the little white basket is cute!

*gag*

Everything is fake with the Trumps. Everything.

PS. I hope Skiguy is going to be okay. He worries me when the darkness descends.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:45:12am

re: #316 makeitstop

I actually saw someone on Twitter the other day use the argument of ‘After looking for a year and finding no collusion, Mueller’s moved on to obstruction…’

Like an obstruction of justice charge is equivalent to a jaywalking ticket or something.

They’re looking for any “victory” they can and the idea that Mueller has “failed” to prove “collusion” and thus must “settle” for an obstruction of justice charge is right up their alley. It’s Whitewater in reverse: When they had to settle for a perjury charge, they portrayed it as the worst crime in the history of American politics…only after failing to prove everything from bank fraud to murder.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:45:45am

re: #305 Targetpractice

In any other administration, the news that one of the biggest money bags for the GOP was breaking ties to support the DNC would be met with restraint and bitterness, but it would still be in a civil tone. But Donny’s ego cannot tolerate any dissent in the ranks, so he’s going to do exactly the wrong thing: Attack the Kochs and thus put the GOP in the very uncomfortable spot of defending either him or their sugar daddies.

I think this is has been building for some time. The Big Don has been messing with too much stuff that makes the money world unstable.

If there is one thing big money people do not like it is being unstable and not having any control on the cause.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:48:12am

re: #319 ObserverArt

I think this is has been building for some time. The Big Don has been messing with too much stuff that makes the money world unstable.

If there is one thing big money people do not like it is being unstable and not having any control on the cause.

True, but they put up with a lot of shit (and still do) because he’s giving them what they want: A business-friendly court, lots of tax giveaways, and dismantling much of the regulation apparatus that they hate with a fiery passion. They’re not yet demanding his removal from office, and that will likely become less likely if the DNC wins the House in November. Then we’ll be back to “Vote Republican to save us from the tyranny of the Left!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:49:25am

re: #316 makeitstop

I actually saw someone on Twitter the other day use the argument of ‘After looking for a year and finding no collusion, Mueller’s moved on to obstruction…’

Like an obstruction of justice charge is equivalent to a jaywalking ticket or something.

Obstruction of Justice isn’t a crime, not illegal!

//

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 5:51:55am

I suspect that if obstruction of justice charges are filed, the wingnuts will begin screaming “How can you obstruct justice when there was no crime?!”

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unproven innocence  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:00:24am

Bank robbery. I bet you think the meaning is clear. It is not.

Bank of America questions customer’s citizenship, freezes accounts
Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:42 PM EDT
Intro:

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

This is a heads-up for any Bank of America customer: You might be getting questions about your citizenship status and even have your accounts frozen with no warning.

KCTV5 News heard about this happening when one of our longtime photographers, Josh Collins, told us what happened to him.

He had received a mailer claiming to be sent by Bank of America that asked for personal information and citizenship information.

However, he has been a Bank of America customer for 20 years and was born a U.S. citizen, so he figured it could be a scam and that the bank would follow up if it was legitimate.

The next thing he knew, his accounts were frozen without notice.

Financial institutions, it seems, are rapidly becoming an enforcement/harassment tool for ICE. Surely none of them would never abuse such power for financial gain, right?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:01:06am

re: #322 Targetpractice

I suspect that if obstruction of justice charges are filed, the wingnuts will begin screaming “How can you obstruct justice when there was no crime?!”

Yeah I’ve already seen that argument, too.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:02:01am

re: #244 teleskiguy

What happens if this “blue wave” doesn’t happen? I think that’s something that maybe folks should plan for. I’m thinking asylum in Norway.

I’m thinking we continue the fight.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:03:17am

This is a pretty mild response - but Trump will probably read it as a declaration of war.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:04:40am

re: #259 JordanRules

My favorite part of the TV show Lucifer is that he doesn’t let anyone blame the devil for their choices.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:06:20am

2008: “Obama is stupid and crazy to suggest meeting with foreign dictators without preconditions!”

2018: “TRUMP’S SO AWESOME FOR BEING WILLING TO MEET DICTATORS WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS!!!”

So much for “They’ve got oil, so Trump’s totally serious about going to war.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:08:03am

re: #328 Targetpractice

Fox News hosts praise Trump for wanting to meet with Iran — after years of attacking Obama for doing the same absolutely anything. rawstory.com

— Raw Story

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:08:50am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

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God just shut the fuck up already Donnie.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:09:23am

re: #328 Targetpractice

2008: “Obama is stupid and crazy to suggest meeting with foreign dictators without preconditions!”

2018: “TRUMP’S SO AWESOME FOR BEING WILLING TO MEET DICTATORS WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS!!!”

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So much for “They’ve got oil, so Trump’s totally serious about going to war.”

It’s almost like the morons on Fox and Friends have no real principles.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:10:20am

re: #329 Sir John Barron

Pretty much. Trump could literally do what Chamberlain did at Munich and they’d praise it. Hell Trump could replicate Hitler and they’d praise it because FNC is the Republicans’ propaganda arm or the GOP is the political arm of FNC.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:13:34am

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

But then it’s a 49-49 tie; can’t Pence then cast the deciding vote?

They can’t get the nominees out of the judiciary committe. Flake’s on the committe, and without him, it’s a tie. And Pence can’t break those.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:20:22am

re: #263 BeachDem

2. Firebrand

Which is code word for Asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:21:35am

re: #334 MsJ

Which is code word for Asshole.

More a phrase than word but “common sense conservative.” Which to me is “I just say something in common sense becuase I feel it is.”

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:22:37am

re: #333 Belafon

Which kind of makes me think that it’s an intentional “fuck you”, while giving him cover to say “dude, I was just taking a vacation”.

I half expect McConnell to have changed the rules to make the entire Senate irrelevant by the time Flake comes back.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:24:10am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:24:18am

re: #333 Belafon

They can’t get the nominees out of the judiciary committe. Flake’s on the committe, and without him, it’s a tie. And Pence can’t break those.

I wonder if they would just skip the Judic Committee.

But still I like it, good for Flake.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:24:44am

re: #333 Belafon

They can’t get the nominees out of the judiciary committe. Flake’s on the committe, and without him, it’s a tie. And Pence can’t break those.

Of course Flake could have stayed in town and just voted against the nominees in committee.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:25:39am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:26:48am

re: #339 Sir John Barron

Of course Flake could have stayed in town and just voted against the nominees in committee.

Of course, but at least brave Sir Robin ran away.

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BigPapa  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:27:14am

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Words I could go the rest of my life not hearing in a political context anymore:

1. Woke

4. Political Commentator

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:27:45am

re: #339 Sir John Barron

Of course Flake could have stayed in town and just voted against the nominees in committee.

My guess is he figures this “principled stand” means he can just refuse to take any calls from McConnell for however long his “vacation” lasts.

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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:30:19am

re: #244 teleskiguy

What happens if this “blue wave” doesn’t happen? I think that’s something that maybe folks should plan for. I’m thinking asylum in Norway.

seriously? Grab a rifle, form a cell and head into the hills.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:31:50am

I have no idea what Flake is doing…but in a strange way I like it because it does seem so McConnell like. A little bit of Mitch’s own medicine.

Washington is certainly strange these days. The Trump effect.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:32:59am

Looks like Manafort’s going to ride this thing right into a prison cell.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:33:42am

re: #345 ObserverArt

I have no idea what Flake is doing…but in a strange way I like it because it does seem so McConnell like. A little bit of Mitch’s own medicine.

Washington is certainly strange these days. The Trump effect.

I’d say it’s just Flake thumbing his nose at McConnell, that he had this vacation planned for some time and Mitch decided to act like a stereotypical asshole boss by cancelling all vacations in order to get stuff done that will only make him look good.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:35:05am

re: #346 makeitstop

Looks like Manafort’s going to ride this thing right into a prison cell.

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Welcome to Iran-Contra 2.0: Everybody’s getting ready to be fitted for prison stripes because they’re convinced they’ll get a pardon in 2-6 years.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:36:55am

re: #244 teleskiguy

What happens if this “blue wave” doesn’t happen? I think that’s something that maybe folks should plan for. I’m thinking asylum in Norway.

Forget all about the label, media driven clickbait expectations. Every day is the same in that we advocate and do what we can. Win, lose, boring day or eye popper.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:37:39am

re: #348 Targetpractice

Welcome to Iran-Contra 2.0: Everybody’s getting ready to be fitted for prison stripes because they’re convinced they’ll get a pardon in 2-6 years.

Trump will pardon everyone in 2021 - on his way out the door (hopefully). Manafort probably figures, “Meh, a couple years in the slammer….no biggie.”

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lizardofid  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:39:19am

re: #346 makeitstop

Looks like Manafort’s going to ride this thing right into a prison cell.

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Omerta.

Oh, and good morning!

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:39:20am

re: #307 Targetpractice

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So the battle line’s pretty clearly drawn: You’re either with Trump or you’re with the Kochs.

I need more popcorn.

How about neither? I think I am in Camp Neither. They all can fuck themselves.

I need more Tums.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:40:33am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

Trump will pardon everyone in 2021 - on his way out the door (hopefully). Manafort probably figures, “Meh, a couple years in the slammer….no biggie.”

And if not Donny, then Mikey will definitely fill the role of Bush Sr in pardoning all his old bosses bagmen while mumbling something about how the country has to “move on.”

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:44:45am

re: #326 makeitstop

This is a pretty mild response - but Trump will probably read it as a declaration of war.

James Davis, a spokesperson for the Koch network, responds to POTUS tweets: “We support policies that help all people improve their lives. We look forward to working with anyone to do so.

“

Unless it is better wages or healthcare or the other things that help improve people’s lives.

I hate these fucking people so much.

That they could somehow, in any way, become heroes of the left makes me want to vomit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:46:27am

Of course, how this all plays out depends on whether or not we’re looking at Watergate or Iran-Contra. If Donny avoids any criminal charges, then he or Pence will feel no compunction against throwing out pardons and commutations like confetti. But if he or both are charged, and if either is convicted or resigns as a consequence, then Manafort is gonna die in prison.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:49:19am

re: #352 MsJ

How about neither? I think I am in Camp Neither. They all can fuck themselves.

I need more Tums.

I’m hoping for career-ending injuries on both sides.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:50:57am

My cat 30 minutes ago: “Excuse me while I puke under your desk.”

My cat now: “I wanna snuggle!”

*sigh*

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:51:36am

re: #268 JordanRules

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Cleanest Chucks I ever did see.

Where’s the smudge of dirt on her cheek? You know, the smudge of dirt that Ivanka rubs on her face when she does a “gardening with my kids” photo op.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:51:59am

re: #352 MsJ

How about neither? I think I am in Camp Neither. They all can fuck themselves.

I need more Tums.

There was always a third choice. I’ll get penants printed with “INJURIES”.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:53:01am

re: #354 MsJ

Unless it is better wages or healthcare or the other things that help improve people’s lives.

I hate these fucking people so much.

That they could somehow, in any way, become heroes of the left makes me want to vomit.

I doubt anyone is seeing them as heroes of the left.

Politics often relies on partnerships of strange bedfellows. I think this is one of those times.

If the Kochs can mess things up for the GOP to thwart Trump it might be good in the short run. It will place the Republican politicians in a vice getting squeezed by the money players like the Kochs from one side and the Trump base from the other.

It could help lead to less votes for GOP candidates and allow more Democratic wins.

If the Dems can take back congress then they can get back to patching things back up. At that point they can ignore the Kochs.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:54:36am

re: #360 ObserverArt

I doubt anyone is seeing them as heroes of the left.

Politics often relies on partnerships of strange bedfellows. I think this is one of those times.

If the Kochs can mess things up for the GOP to thwart Trump it might be good in the short run. It will place the Republican politicians in a vice getting squeezed by the money players like the Kochs from one side and the Trump base from the other.

It could help lead to less votes for GOP candidates and allow more Democratic wins.

If the Dems can take back congress then they can get back to patching things back up. At that point they can ignore the Kochs.

And possibly hold them accountable.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:55:21am

re: #360 ObserverArt

I doubt anyone is seeing them as heroes of the left.

Politics often relies on partnerships of strange bedfellows. I think this is one of those times.

If the Kochs can mess things up for the GOP to thwart Trump it might be good in the short run. It will place the Republican politicians in a vice getting squeezed by the money players like the Kochs from one side and the Trump base from the other.

It could help lead to less votes for GOP candidates and allow more Democratic wins.

If the Dems can take back congress then they can get back to patching things back up. At that point they can ignore the Kochs.

Personally, I’m amused by the Wingnut-On-Wingnut action, the Kochs having been one of the big bankrollers of the Tea Party now telling the GOP if they continue to follow the Orange Shitgibbon that the TPers put in the White House, then they can expect to find their sugar daddies cutting off the money.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:56:46am

re: #358 The Vicious Babushka

Where’s the smudge of dirt on her cheek? You know, the smudge of dirt that Ivanka rubs on her face when she does a “gardening with my kids” photo op.

“I don’t really care, do u?”

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 6:57:44am

re: #360 ObserverArt

If the Dems can take back congress then they can get back to patching things back up. At that point they can ignore the Kochs.

Alas, the Kochs buy congresscritters…they don’t rent them.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:01:15am

re: #362 Targetpractice

Personally, I’m amused by the Wingnut-On-Wingnut action, the Kochs having been one of the big bankrollers of the Tea Party now telling the GOP if they continue to follow the Orange Shitgibbon that the TPers put in the White House, then they can expect to find their sugar daddies cutting off the money.

It’s the Frankenstein story in politics.

They created the monster…

It’s ALIVE!!!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:02:55am

this morning in the Ohio River Valley:

1.33 inches in the rain gauge so far and still pouring down.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:03:25am

re: #364 MsJ

Alas, the Kochs buy congresscritters…they don’t rent them.

I’m not saying the Dems need the Koch money. They need them to cut the money from the Republicans.

That can help a lot.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:03:36am

In fact, sources who have reviewed the evidence now think it is “all but inevitable” that Mueller will deliver a report to the United States Department of Justice that will make a case that the president broke the law.

The central piece of evidence regards former FBI Director James Comey’s claim that Trump had asked him to drop the FBI’s case into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, whom Trump had fired in early 2017 after he lied to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak during the presidential transition period after the 2016 election.

Trump’s attorneys have tried to argue that Trump believed that Flynn was already in the clear when he asked Comey to drop the case — however, Waas’ sources say that “previously undisclosed evidence indicates just the opposite — that President Trump was fully informed that Flynn was the target of prosecutors.”

Specifically, Waas writes that a “a confidential White House memorandum” written shortly before Trump made his request to Comey indicates that then-chief of staff Reince Priebus and White House counsel Don McGahn both directly told the president that Flynn was under criminal investigation.

The entire report, which outlines a damning timeline of events regarding Trump’s interactions with Comey, can be read in its entirety at this link.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:03:41am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

Trump will pardon everyone in 2021 - on his way out the door (hopefully). Manafort probably figures, “Meh, a couple years in the slammer….no biggie.”

if manafort is convicted, it’ll likely include the count that he received $75M in income (ukraine) that he didnt report / pay taxes on.

federal insta-pardon or not, the state of Virginia will jump on that.
there are no state pardons (from trump).

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:04:30am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

this morning in the Ohio River Valley:

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1.33 inches in the rain gauge so far and still pouring down.

Steady rain for a couple hours here in Columbus…but not as heavy as southern Ohio.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:06:28am

re: #367 ObserverArt

I’m not saying the Dems need the Koch money. They need them to cut the money from the Republicans.

That can help a lot.

It can and it will (assuming this isn’t bullshit), but, overall, I see nothing about the Kochs as positive. Nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:07:16am

re: #370 ObserverArt

Steady rain for a couple hours here in Columbus…but not as heavy as southern Ohio.

ground here is still pretty saturated after last week’s 5+ inches

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:07:54am

re: #371 MsJ

It can and it will (assuming this isn’t bullshit), but, overall, I see nothing about the Kochs as positive. Nothing.

Sometimes someone else’s negative can be your positive! ; )

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Bass Reeves  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:08:57am

re: #369 dangerman

I feel like that would be the case with like…all of them, right? Except maybe Pence, everyone has been implicated in shady financial dealings.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:11:38am

Captain Obvious was just promoted to 4 star General.

thehill.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:11:44am

re: #368 MsJ

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If Mueller does file charges, and if those charges are solid enough to pass scrutiny, then the GOP is going to be in a very uncomfortable spot. He may find himself entertaining a lot visitors suggesting his resignation “For the good of the party.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:13:20am
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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:15:08am

re: #375 GlutenFreeJesus

Captain Obvious was just promoted to 4 star General.

thehill.com

Vlad and Donny both get what they want: The former gets to continue sticking it to Ukraine, while the latter gets to maintain that it’s Article 21 excuse for tariffs is totally legit because “FUCK THE WTO!”

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:15:26am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s getting cornier with his stupid and over-the-top paintings.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:15:57am

re: #268 JordanRules

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Cleanest Chucks I ever did see.

Chrissy Teigen agrees.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:16:00am

re: #374 Bass Reeves

I feel like that would be the case with like…all of them, right? Except maybe Pence, everyone has been implicated in shady financial dealings.

at a minimum if its income tax related - evasion or actual fraud
in a state with an income tax - ie NY or VA (not say, florida)

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Teukka  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:16:03am

*sigh*
A heads up for those of you LARPing:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:16:12am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

Trans women saying that the Department of State is retroactively revoking passports for “failing to disclose” gender reassignment surgery (which was never a requirement to reveal), sometimes from decades ago.

More of the New Conservative Cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty.

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More at: them.us

Won’t stop Milo, SMOTI and L’il Lucien from saying Trump is a great friend of gays and lesbians!

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:18:44am

re: #376 Targetpractice

If Mueller does file charges, and if those charges are solid enough to pass scrutiny, then the GOP is going to be in a very uncomfortable spot. He may find himself entertaining a lot visitors suggesting his resignation “For the good of the party.”

No way, no how. trump doesn’t ever do anything for the good of anyone or anything other than himself. Not even his kids.

If republicans think this is even remotely a possibility, they are dumber than I originally thought (which is really, really, really, REALLY stupid).

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:22:32am

re: #384 MsJ

No way, no how. trump doesn’t ever do anything for the good of anyone or anything other than himself. Not even his kids.

If republicans think this is even remotely a possibility, they are dumber than I originally thought (which is really, really, really, REALLY stupid).

I suspect there will be some horse-trading done to secure his resignation if they believe the charges serious enough that conviction is conceivable. Possibly getting the DNC to agree to avoid bringing charges against Don Jr and/or Jared. I don’t believe Mitch really wants to spend the better part of two years dodging accusations that he allowed the most unpopular president since Nixon to avoid conviction on felony charges.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:22:43am

re: #376 Targetpractice

If Mueller does file charges, and if those charges are solid enough to pass scrutiny, then the GOP is going to be in a very uncomfortable spot. He may find himself entertaining a lot visitors suggesting his resignation “For the good of the party.”

Leading to a 2020 election pitting a Democratic candidate, a Republican candidate, and a MAGA candidate against each other, maybe? 1912 all over again!

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Teukka  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:23:12am

Satire from Waterford Whispers News:- Prototype For New American Flag Unveiled

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:23:58am

I’m shocked!

Twitter sends me a note that Mr. Stay Out of Syria who loved spreading his antisemitism all over Twitter got canned.

Maybe that stock price drop FINALLY got @jack to act…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:24:06am
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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:27:43am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The answer’s simple: He doesn’t believe what he did was a crime, but he believes that anything done to him is totally a crime.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:30:21am

re: #385 Targetpractice

I suspect there will be some horse-trading done to secure his resignation if they believe the charges serious enough that conviction is conceivable. Possibly getting the DNC to agree to avoid bringing charges against Don Jr and/or Jared. I don’t believe Mitch really wants to spend the better part of two years dodging accusations that he allowed the most unpopular president since Nixon to avoid conviction on felony charges.

If this comes to pass, we are truly and deeply fucked - and are not really America at all.

Consequences. There has got to be consequences. Real, tangible consequences. Jail time and massive fines or confiscations.

If Dems do this, it will forever tarnish them as not having done the right thing.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:31:23am

re: #388 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m shocked!

Twitter sends me a note that Mr. Stay Out of Syria who loved spreading his antisemitism all over Twitter got canned.

Maybe that stock price drop FINALLY got @jack to act…

I will believe that once I see a purge of Nazis.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:36:27am

They are STILL doing this?

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:40:56am

re: #391 MsJ

If this comes to pass, we are truly and deeply fucked - and are not really America at all.

Consequences. There has got to be consequences. Real, tangible consequences. Jail time and massive fines or confiscations.

If Dems do this, it will forever tarnish them as not having done the right thing.

Just how likely are the GOP to convict Trump or any of his co-conspirators if the DNC refuses to entertain any alternative but impeachment? The days of impeachment being a purely legal matter ended in 1998, it’s now a political one and the GOP have shown time and again they’re prepared to march through Hell itself to keep the DNC from scoring any sort of victory. It’s not as though they’ll pay any less of a price at the polls in 2020 if they vote to convict than they would if they voted to acquit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:45:16am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:45:30am

re: #339 Sir John Barron

Of course Flake could have stayed in town and just voted against the nominees in committee.

He’s in Zimbabwe as an election monitor. I don’t know when he’ll be back, but I doubt this is a principled absence.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:46:06am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:46:34am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Just how likely are the GOP to convict Trump or any of his co-conspirators if the DNC refuses to entertain any alternative but impeachment? The days of impeachment being a purely legal matter ended in 1998, it’s now a political one and the GOP have shown time and again they’re prepared to march through Hell itself to keep the DNC from scoring any sort of victory. It’s not as though they’ll pay any less of a price at the polls in 2020 if they vote to convict than they would if they voted to acquit.

I am not talking about impeachment. I am talking about horse trading to, for example, let Junior off if trump leaves. I am talking about true criminal acts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:47:52am

re: #397 Ace-o-aces

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McNaughton would have fit in great in Soviet times.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:48:25am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Just how likely are the GOP to convict Trump or any of his co-conspirators if the DNC refuses to entertain any alternative but impeachment? The days of impeachment being a purely legal matter ended in 1998, it’s now a political one and the GOP have shown time and again they’re prepared to march through Hell itself to keep the DNC from scoring any sort of victory. It’s not as though they’ll pay any less of a price at the polls in 2020 if they vote to convict than they would if they voted to acquit.

Impeachment is always a pilitical matter. OTOH, the only way the Democrats could prevent the lesser-Trumps from being charged would be to end all investigations. That wouldn’t prevent states from going after them. But, if I were an elected official, I would only agree to dropping all of the charges on Ivanka and her brothers if Donald took the entire brunt of the prosecution.

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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:50:07am
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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:50:46am

Damn allergies. (sniff)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:50:52am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

Koch network meeting kicks off with anti-protectionism message from Charles Koch

COLORADO SPRINGS — In 2003, billionaire industrialist Charles Koch gathered a small group of like-minded business leaders to oppose increased federal spending and steel tariffs under the George W. Bush administration.

Koch, 82, is now ringing the alarms again 15 years later at this weekend’s meeting, which has grown to include more than 500 major donors to his influential network, amid the brewing trade war under President Trump.

The twice-annual confab kicked off Saturday afternoon with a video message released to reporters in which an impassioned Koch decries protectionism and those who support it.

“They’re doing whatever they can to close themselves off from the new, hold on to the past and prevent change,” Koch says in a video. “This is a natural tendency, but it’s a destructive one because when people act in protectionist ways, they erect barriers, which makes everyone worse off.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:52:05am
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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:52:08am

re: #398 MsJ

I am not talking about impeachment. I am talking about horse trading to, for example, let Junior off if trump leaves. I am talking about true criminal acts.

Robert Gates is walking into the courthouse today with the intent of testifying against his old boss. Two others in the conspiracy have already taken plea deals. It’s a little late to say nobody will be shown mercy.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:52:59am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Robert Gates is walking into the courthouse today with the intent of testifying against his old boss. Two others in the conspiracy have already taken plea deals. It’s a little late to say nobody will be shown mercy.

If it goes all the way to the top and those people receive consequences, then I am good.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:53:08am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Send me your Chinese bankers, your Neo-Nazi skinheads, your trophy wives yearning to breath freely!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:53:26am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Again proving that they don’t oppose illegal immigration. They oppose immigration from the “wrong places.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:53:52am

re: #406 MsJ

If it goes all the way to the top and those people receive consequences, then I am good.

So if Don Jr’s lawyer floats testimony in exchange for immunity against perjury charges?

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:55:14am

re: #403 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Koch network meeting kicks off with anti-protectionism message from Charles Koch

While I agree with them on this, the Koch’s, because they are wealthy enough to survive anything but a guillotine, refuse to accept that you have to take care of people. The populism Trump appeals to not only makes minorities here targets, but also makes it easy for Trump to go after those “others” in other countries.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:55:45am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We really didn’t want some guy’s grandfather from Germany either.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:57:32am

I have the hiccups at work. I need someone to scare me in a safe-for-work way. And you’d have to go pretty far, since Trump just makes me angry.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:58:34am

re: #409 Targetpractice

So if Don Jr’s lawyer floats testimony in exchange for immunity against perjury charges?

Testimony against whom and for what?

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:59:01am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:59:43am

re: #400 Belafon

Impeachment is always a pilitical matter. OTOH, the only way the Democrats could prevent the lesser-Trumps from being charged would be to end all investigations. That wouldn’t prevent states from going after them. But, if I were an elected official, I would only agree to dropping all of the charges on Ivanka and her brothers if Donald took the entire brunt of the prosecution.

He’s more likely to agree to a deal that would prosecute all of them and let him off the hook.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 7:59:58am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

Again proving that they don’t oppose illegal immigration. They oppose immigration from the “wrong places.”

Pretty much. It’s the argument you get whenever a wingnut wants to act like he’s not an isolationist dickward: “I’m not against legal immigration, I’m totally cool with people coming here if they follow the rules!”

Then you find them bitching about how the government isn’t encouraging more immigration from Europe.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:00:54am

re: #407 Targetpractice

“Send me your Chinese bankers, your Neo-Nazi skinheads, your trophy wives yearning to breath freely purchase a Trump™ property!”

//////

FTFY

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:01:10am

re: #328 Targetpractice

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:01:17am

re: #412 Belafon

I have the hiccups at work. I need someone to scare me in a safe-for-work way. And you’d have to go pretty far, since Trump just makes me angry.

Holding my breath until I can’t anymore has always worked for me.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:01:42am

re: #413 MsJ

Testimony against whom and for what?

His father and says he’ll testify he was informed about the meeting at Trump Tower. In exchange, the Feds drop the perjury charge.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:02:08am

re: #415 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

He’s more likely to agree to a deal that would prosecute all of them and let him off the hook.

The Trumps remind me of an old episode of Spider-man that involved the Kingpin. The episode showed a flashback to when the Kingpin was younger. His dad had committed a crime, but pinned it on him. It was a lesson Kingpin needed to learn according to his dad.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:02:09am

re: #419 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holding my breath until I can’t anymore has always worked for me.

Spoon full of peanut butter works for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:02:56am

re: #416 Targetpractice

Pretty much. It’s the argument you get whenever a wingnut wants to act like he’s not an isolationist dickward: “I’m not against legal immigration, I’m totally cool with people coming here if they follow the rules!”

Then you find them bitching about how the government isn’t encouraging more immigration from Europe.

You never ever hear them complain about illegal white immigrants or the Russian nationals having children in Trump’s hotels. TBH I hate the anchor baby slur not just because it’s ugly because one of my own family was the product of such a thing. My grandfather’s oldest brother was born not long after his mother arrived. Uncle Stan ended up serving in WWII and he had in fact enlisted when most of “Real America” thought that was Europe’s problem before we all used Munich to attack the Europeans for something we ourselves weren’t involved in.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:03:29am

re: #415 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

He’s more likely to agree to a deal that would prosecute all of them and let him off the hook.

These assholes are all so corrupt that prosecutors may very well spend months or years sorting out who is prepared to rat out whom.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:04:15am

re: #412 Belafon

I keep a jar of Brioschi handy.

When the hiccups start it’s time for a tablespoon of Brioschi mixed with cold water, drink it and it kills the hiccups for me every time after the Brioschi Belch®

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:08:17am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:09:30am

re: #420 Targetpractice

His father and says he’ll testify he was informed about the meeting at Trump Tower. In exchange, the Feds drop the perjury charge.

I think junior doing any kind of testifying would be highly problematic since he, like his father, never met a truth. Having him as a witness would likely damage any case.

I get what you’re saying, and agree in theory, but I’d trust a Gotti before I’d trust a trump with anything resembling truth.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:13:57am

re: #348 Targetpractice

Welcome to Iran-Contra 2.0: Everybody’s getting ready to be fitted for prison stripes because they’re convinced they’ll get a pardon in 2-6 years.

With the orange shit-goblin in charge it’s a 2-6 week wait.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:14:03am

re: #426 Joe Bacon 🌹

Part of McNaughton’s series of Donald Trump’s head on someone else’s body.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:15:54am

re: #427 MsJ

I think junior doing any kind of testifying would be highly problematic since he, like his father, never met a truth. Having him as a witness would likely damage any case.

I get what you’re saying, and agree in theory, but I’d trust a Gotti before I’d trust a trump with anything resembling truth.

It’s interesting you bring up Gotti when I was just about to write a post about how all this needs to be seen less like addressing a major political scandal and more like taking down the mob. We’re gonna end up making a lot of unsatisfactory deals with a lot of very unsavory characters. That’s going to mean plea deals and immunity exchanged for testimony, papers, emails, texts, etc. Hell, given the look into the Trump empire’s finances, we might have to console ourselves that while Don Jr doesn’t go away for perjury, he will be left dodging bill collectors to his dying day.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:16:37am

re: #365 ObserverArt

I see what you did there.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:17:51am
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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:18:08am

There are 12 people in that little boat. I doubt that thing would stay buoyant with all that weight. They would end up standing in the swamp and sinking slowly into the muck bottom.

Which is probably way closer to what is really going on.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:20:28am

re: #433 ObserverArt

There are 12 people in that little boat. I doubt that thing would stay buoyant with all that weight. They would end up standing in the swamp and sinking slowly into the muck bottom.

Which is probably way closer to what is really going on.

McConnell and Ryan are under it holding it up.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:20:59am

re: #432 jaunte

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Like I said upthread, I personally think it’s the latter, as he’s done little up til now to indicate that he gives a flying fuck about his principles.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:22:00am

This:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:23:16am
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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:24:37am

re: #437 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Donald Trump being a petty bastard who will readily fuck over others because they didn’t bend a knee to him?

Surely you jest!

//

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freetoken  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:27:03am

re: #426 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tweet it!

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:28:08am

This is a fascinating, heartbreaking thread.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:33:29am

re: #376 Targetpractice

He won’t respond to that. He doesn’t do anything for the good of anyone but himself.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:35:28am

Ever since Braille Day in January I’ve been trying to caption my pics on Twitter for the sightless. Nice thing about LGF is it’s accessible and you can see the captions if you mouse over the image in my tweet.

I try to be informative and entertaining.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:38:14am
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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:42:33am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:44:34am

re: #444 MsJ

All of us white boys need to be fixed by Shuri.

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gocart mozart  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:45:27am
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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:46:35am

Well, this explains a few things:

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:48:56am

I’m probably not the first to think of this, but I thought of a comeback on the transgender pronoun thing. It won’t win the other person over, but I figure nothing short of a family memember being trans will. It might get a few snickers:

“HE was born male.”
“You were born an asshole, but I still respect your decision to call yourself ‘he’.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:49:56am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

snowflake…

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He states, without irony, on the Fox News Channel.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:51:02am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:51:08am

Thread

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Lupin  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:52:57am

re: #440 MsJ

This is a fascinating, heartbreaking thread.

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US Border with Canada:

France’s border with Switzerland:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:53:40am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:58:28am
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darthstar  Jul 31, 2018 • 8:59:04am
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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:00:01am

Hmm…

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:00:57am

Forgot to caption this one for the sightless…but I saw this guy whacking weeds across the street from my house with a machete and couldn’t resist getting his picture.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:02:35am

re: #453 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:04:11am

re: #455 darthstar

Yeah, we already got there… It’s not collusion unless Hillary did it - then it’s a crime.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:04:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:06:22am

Reminder: The Koch brothers are not friends of the Resistance, they just think Trump is a moron and won’t help them achieve their goals.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:06:33am

re: #447 Targetpractice

Well, this explains a few things:

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Exactly what I was talking about. The Koch Trump war is on. May all parties fail.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:07:01am

re: #460 MsJ

Love it? I think it’s the easiest way for us to recover from them. The GOP splitting into the God-Wielding (ie Racist) Party and the Business party would be awesome.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:08:07am

re: #461 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder: The Koch brothers are not friends of the Resistance, they just think Trump is a moron and won’t help them achieve their goals.

Anyone that treats them as such should have their membership card taken away.

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gwangung  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:08:56am

re: #461 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder: The Koch brothers are not friends of the Resistance, they just think Trump is a moron and won’t help them achieve their goals.

Temporary allies, maybe, but, yeah….definitely not friends.

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Targetpractice  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:09:45am

re: #459 lawhawk

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Yeah, we already got there… It’s not collusion unless Hillary did it - then it’s a crime.

My money’s on “Collusion is a crime, but it was the only way to level the playing field!”

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:10:16am

Sometime during this thread I passed 112,358 karma, a six digit string of Fibonacci numbers.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:13:50am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Of course if it were this guy’s uncle, Watters surely would not have an issue. Hmm, wonder why?

en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:14:56am

Honest to dog, I will never get over Bigfoot erotic “literature”. I think I am permanently scarred by this concept.

On a related note…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:18:41am

Trump was flogging McConnell over ACA and now they’re besties. I can see the Kochs and Trump working out a way to let bygones be bygones.

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electrotek  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:19:31am

Hey guys, off topic here:

Does anyone have any referrals for freight forwarders/shipping agents? Seeking ocean freight quotes for RORO.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:19:47am

re: #470 Barefoot Grin

Trump was flogging McConnell over ACA and now they’re besties. I can see the Kochs and Trump working out a way to let bygones be bygones.

He also wants to meet with the Iranians. But I think the tariffs are going to be a pretty big deal for the Kochs.

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electrotek  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:20:28am

re: #472 Belafon

He also wants to meet with the Iranians. But I think the tariffs are going to be a pretty big deal for the Kochs.

I’m worried sick about the 25% tariff affecting me directly, so I’m erring on the side of the Kochs on this one.

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Sea Mexican!  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:22:42am

re: #440 MsJ

This is a fascinating, heartbreaking thread.

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:29:57am

re: #461 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder: The Koch brothers are not friends of the Resistance, they just think Trump is a moron and won’t help them achieve their goals.

True: but it’s easy to see why they would have a beef with King Orangeanus: the Kochs, at least, are real businessmen/industrialists, not sideshow-grifter/”branding” conmen like Trump: they know that an actual “strong economy” isn’t going to result from the Moron-in-Chief’s imbecilic tariff regime.True, their permanent aim is to “direct” (i.e. bribe politicians to support) that economy to best benefit themselves: but if one of those “benefits” is the neutralization (or, ideally the removal) of Donald Trump - more power to them.

And of course, they’d go right back to boosting Republicans ASAP - but that brand is likely to be tainted for the near future - Koch money notwithstanding.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:30:07am

And, the winner is…

SPACE COMMAND

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Sea Mexican!  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:31:13am

I stumbled upon this article on reddit:

Puerto Rico and the specter of crypto-colonization

The first conference on my circuit was a ‘Start-up Society Summit’ dedicated to rebuilding Puerto Rico. The territory’s well-being is tragically unimportant to the United States, and the efforts to rebuild the island speaks measures to this. Portions of the island are still without power a year after last year’s storms; the nationalized power system being a pit of inefficient corruption. It’s estimated at least five thousand have needlessly perished as a result of the two hurricanes in 2017, many due to lack of access to food and medical care. The island has had “500 years of challenge and fear and anger and frustration” as Brock Pierce put it, and last year’s storms only brought it to a boil. Large scale protests on the island have largely gone unnoticed by the media. In the midst of this social unrest, Brock Pierce has been leading a migration to the troubled island, drawing both admiration and ire.

Undoubtedly, many bitcoins have been donated to help fill in the gaps where large humanitarian organizations have been failing. As these global nomads travel the island, they’re able to meet the locals and actually see what the village needs; solar power and water filters and so on. This is probably better than metaphorically or literally throwing paper towels at the problem.

[snip]

It’s a surprisingly good article on this crypto-migration and how it’s been (coldly) received in the Island.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:31:37am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And, the winner is…

SPACE COMMAND

A closet named in Trump’s honor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:33:11am
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:33:50am
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:34:42am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:37:47am

re: #459 lawhawk

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Yeah, we already got there… It’s not collusion unless Hillary did it - then it’s a crime.

A dollar says Mueller’s report never uses the word “collusion” except for direct quotes

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:42:38am

re: #482 dangerman

I would never take that bet no matter what odds you are willing to give me.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:43:32am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:44:19am

Oh jeez, we got enough gaslight to be visible from deep space…

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:44:29am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Meanwhile, the Russians - who attacked the US and engaged in cyberwarfare get to laugh as the US refuses to take action to prevent further subterfuge.

Priorities.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:45:50am

re: #486 Sufficient unto the day…

He says it right in his name. He’s a fucking deplorable.

He’s also a goddamned Nazi enabler.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:46:32am

re: #486 Sufficient unto the day…

Oh jeez, we got enough gaslight to be visible from deep space…

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BeachDem  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:51:04am

Another rave review for Spicer’s book, from Richard Cohen at the WaPo.

It took a nanosecond to download Sean Spicer’s new book on my iPad and, believe me, that was more time than it was worth.

Heh

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:51:29am

Speechles…

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electrotek  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:51:55am

What’s the likelihood of Trump recognizing the Armenian Genocide for the sole reason to spite Turkey?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:52:13am

re: #460 MsJ

The Koch Bros just got bashed on Fox News

So, in response to tweets from Dumpster, or the cause of tweets from Dumpster?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:53:55am

re: #492 electrotek

What’s the likelihood of Trump recognizing the Armenian Genocide for the sole reason to spite Turkey?

I don’t really know but I have long said overdue.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:58:20am

I literally can’t even.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 9:59:21am

re: #491 MsJ

Jared didn’t make it on the boat.

HEH!

Of course, the swamp’s there because global climate change has raised sea levels and inundated DC (which was built on swamp land), and Trump imported the very dregs of humanity to sabotage functioning government all while shifting resources to give tax breaks to millionaires and the burdens all go to those least able to endure them. At same time, GOP is enabling all kinds of criminality to support Trump’s corrupt admin.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:01:10am

ok this just happend as mrs dm opened our front door to come in:

um…. we don’t have goats

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:02:09am

re: #497 dangerman

Goats do Roam.

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Interesting Times  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:02:20am

re: #497 dangerman

Escape Goats.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:02:33am

re: #497 dangerman

ok this just happend as mrs dm opened our front door to come in:

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um…. we don’t have goats

And whose goats might those be?

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Axolotl  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:03:12am

re: #495 MsJ

I literally can’t even.

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It is something I learned from my uncles who fought against them in WW2. “The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi” is a direct quote I believe.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:04:31am

re: #497 dangerman

ok this just happend as mrs dm opened our front door to come in:

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um…. we don’t didn’t have goats

Let ‘em in.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:06:08am

re: #467 Belafon

Sometime during this thread I passed 112,358 karma, a six digit string of Fibonacci numbers.

I noticed I climbed over 100,000+ last week sometime.

Thanks to everyone that considers anything I contribute worthy!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:14:54am

You will never see this again…….

Facebook Video

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:15:08am

re: #497 dangerman

ok this just happend as mrs dm opened our front door to come in:

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um…. we don’t have goats

You have goats now…you have the pictures that prove it.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:17:10am

re: #500 MsJ

And whose goats might those be?

across the road neighbor

in the past we’ve woken up to chickens, pigs, this on our back deck:

once we found these:

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:19:09am

re: #502 wrenchwench

Let ‘em in.

recall, we have cats (one named monster)

no doubt squeak would run and hide
the goats wouldnt have a chance

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:20:12am

re: #503 ObserverArt

I noticed I climbed over 100,000+ last week sometime.

Thanks to everyone that considers anything I contribute worthy!

I wrote a little Python function to help me determine the smallest 6 digit Fibonacci number: 121,393. Then, being a good programmer, I generalized it. Here’s how fast Fibonacci numbers grow: For a given length, there are at most five numbers of that length. Some lengths only have four Fibonacci numbers. With an efficient implementation, you only have to do about 500 computations to get Fibonacci numbers of length 100.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:20:38am

re: #506 dangerman

across the road neighbor

in the past we’ve woken up to chickens, pigs, this on our back deck:

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Goat eggs?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:22:27am

re: #509 Belafon

Goat eggs?

this is a tough crowd

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:22:29am

re: #506 dangerman

across the road neighbor

in the past we’ve woken up to chickens, pigs, this on our back deck:

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I don’t know where you live but I want to live there!!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:24:49am

It’s John Kelly Day. Work your evil magic.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:26:00am

Is Kelly in this for the long run just to collect a check?

Is he a taker and not a maker???

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:28:39am

re: #513 ObserverArt

Is Kelly in this for the long run just to collect a check?

Is he a taker and not a maker???

Kelly supports all of Trump’s immigration and race policies.

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BeachDem  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:28:40am

re: #496 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Jared didn’t make it on the boat.

HEH!

Of course, the swamp’s there because global climate change has raised sea levels and inundated DC (which was built on swamp land), and Trump imported the very dregs of humanity to sabotage functioning government all while shifting resources to give tax breaks to millionaires and the burdens all go to those least able to endure them. At same time, GOP is enabling all kinds of criminality to support Trump’s corrupt admin.

Note, Ben Carson appears to be paddling backwards. Also, what is Melania supposed to be wearing? Is it her “I really don’t care” jacket without the lettering and with an additional hump? Sessions, if his gun goes off, will probably wing Sarah Huckabee. And Nikki Haley looks more like—well, I don’t know, but not anyone who looks like Nikki Haley.

All in all—genius!

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:29:53am

re: #512 Dave In Austin

It’s John Kelly Day. Work your evil magic.

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Maybe goats got in his house as well.

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garzooma  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:31:15am

re: #492 electrotek

What’s the likelihood of Trump recognizing the Armenian Genocide for the sole reason to spite Turkey?

None

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:32:40am

re: #497 dangerman

ok this just happend as mrs dm opened our front door to come in:

***Goat pictures***

um…. we don’t have goats

It looks like you do now.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:33:48am

re: #513 ObserverArt

Is Kelly in this for the long run just to collect a check?

Is he a taker and not a maker???

There’s a theory that Mattis and Kelly have a pact to try to stay on board as damage control. I haven’t seen any evidence that it’s working, but I have heard of the theory.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:34:20am

re: #475 Jay C

King Orangeanus made me chortle.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:34:45am

re: #516 Belafon

Maybe goats got in his house as well.

With a sprinkler…….

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electrotek  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:35:50am

re: #517 garzooma

None

LOL it’s all chest-thumping here, typical. It’s no different from Erdogan pontificating about Israel while not having the cojones to cut ties completely.

They’re both full of shit…and made for each other.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:35:53am

re: #508 Belafon

I wrote a little Python function to help me determine the smallest 6 digit Fibonacci number: 121,393. Then, being a good programmer, I generalized it. Here’s how fast Fibonacci numbers grow: For a given length, there are at most five numbers of that length. Some lengths only have four Fibonacci numbers. With an efficient implementation, you only have to do about 500 computations to get Fibonacci numbers of length 100.

My brother used to deposit an amount in his savings account to make a full house or a prime number out of the total. Back then, a personal computer was made by Texas Instruments. Now he has a nicely-cooled room full of servers next to his office. With a slide rule framed on his office wall, with a caption: IN CASE OF POWER OUTAGE, BREAK GLASS

And I thought HE was a geek…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:37:05am

The ghost writer has control of the account again. I’m thinking lil’ Stevie Miller for this one.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:39:06am

re: #523 wrenchwench

My brother used to deposit an amount in his savings account to make a full house or a prime number out of the total. Back then, a personal computer was made by Texas Instruments. Now he has a nicely-cooled room full of servers next to his office. With a slide rule framed on his office wall, with a caption: IN CASE OF POWER OUTAGE, BREAK GLASS

And I thought HE was a geek…

I like that. I have my grandfather’s slide rule from WW2 including the instruction book. I should make a case for it.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:39:51am

Speaking of Goatie

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:40:45am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The ghost writer has control of the account again. I’m thinking lil’ Stevie Miller for this one.

“During the shutdown, all of the White House staff will need to go home, including those that take the president to his personal property.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:41:28am

re: #525 Belafon

I like that. I have my grandfather’s slide rule from WW2 including the instruction book. I should make a case for it.

I have one that my brother gave me for my birthday when I was in high school. With the instruction book. In a drawer.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:41:45am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:42:24am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

…Border Security is National Security, and National Security is the long-term viability of our Country. A Government Shutdown is a very small price to pay for a safe and Prosperous America!

— Donald J. Trump

Make America Afraid Again

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:42:53am

re: #525 Belafon

I like that. I have my grandfather’s slide rule from WW2 including the instruction book. I should make a case for it.

When my kids were small I took them “yard sailing” for cheap fun and began collecting slide rules. I have about 250 in a big trunk.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:43:35am

Oh, boy. The Koch-Trump battle escalates…

Steve Bannon has a warning for candidates supported by the conservative Koch political donor network - just ahead of crucial midterm elections this fall.

“You take Koch money, it’s going to be toxic. We are going to let people know that if you take Koch money there’s a punishment,” Bannon, former chief White House strategist and Trump campaign chief executive, told CNBC in an exclusive interview. “If you take money from people who are against the president and are looking to put a knife in the back of the president, you are going to pay.”

The strategist declined to elaborate on what the punishment would look like.

Does Bannon even have any political juice left at this point?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:45:07am

re: #532 makeitstop

Oh, boy. The Koch-Trump battle escalates…

Does Bannon even have any political juice left at this point?

The Liberal Koch-bashing is really getting tiring.

Oh, wait

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:45:53am

re: #498 lawhawk

I’m just gonna use that a response to everything now, thank you.

Why didn’t you do the dishes today? Goats do roam.

Why is the sky blue? Goats do roam.

Why don’t millennials vote? Goats do roam.

Why can’t I be a millionaire? Goats do roam.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:46:06am

We tried to borrow/rent a friend’s goats to do some goat-cleaning of overgrown areas in our yard, but she said they’re so spoiled they won’t eat that kind of imperfect food.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:47:03am

re: #528 wrenchwench

I have one that my brother gave me for my birthday when I was in high school. With the instruction book. In a drawer.

In sixth grade, 1981, I bought a slide rule from K-Mart for $1.20. It took me a while to save up that much money. I learned how to do multiplication, and tried to learn some of the other features, but I didn’t know the math to understand them. I carried it around at school. During that school year, I would get to see a computer and a calculator for the first time.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:47:45am

re: #530 Sir John Barron

Make America Afraid Again

MAAA — sounds like a goat.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:47:51am

re: #511 MsJ

I don’t know where you live but I want to live there!!

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:48:52am

re: #537 Colère Tueur de Lapin

MAAA — sounds like a goat.

Be Afraid Again America.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:49:29am

re: #513 ObserverArt

Is Kelly in this for the long run just to collect a check?

Is he a taker and not a maker???

imo he doesnt care
yeah he supports the nastiniess

mostly i think he doesnt want his last job to be one he quit

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:52:40am

re: #504 Dave In Austin

Crow Rides A Spinning Vent.

542
Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:52:55am
543
lawhawk  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:54:19am

re: #534 plansbandc

It’s a riff on Côtes du Rhône - a great blend of wine from Rhône region in France.

544
Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:54:43am

re: #542 Dave In Austin

Who will cower first, the billionaires or the white supremacists? I’m betting on Trump.

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:56:00am

re: #495 MsJ

I dunno who this assclown knows, but I can tell you I’m Jewish, and while I try - as best I can - to keep prejudices and hatreds out of my social and political opinions, I will ALWAYS make an exception for Nazis.
Always.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:57:16am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 10:57:30am
548
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:00:41am
549
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:00:55am

re: #545 Jay C

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I dunno who this assclown knows, but I can tell you I’m Jewish, and while I try - as best I can - to keep prejudices and hatreds out of my social and political opinions, I will ALWAYS make an exception for Nazis.
Always.

Ditto. And I’m not Jewish.

550
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:01:33am
551
TedStriker  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:04:17am

re: #516 Belafon

Maybe goats got in his house as well.

That’s OK…I just found out that critters had torn into the return air duct of my A/C package unit and crapped a mountain actually inside the air space in the unit; when we rebuilt the house after the 2010 floods, the A/C installer had to run insulated flex duct between where the hard duct ended at outside of the foundation and the back of the A/C unit, underneath our back porch, because of how the unit sat relative to the house heightwise. Now, due to codes, they did enclose the duct work on all four sides under the porch in a wooden raceway and used metal flashing/duct panels to shield the ducts on the top and sides between the porch and the back of the unit, but as Dr. Ian Malcolm said, “life finds a way.”

Little bastard(s) dug under the end of that big wooden raceway and found the gap at the bottom between the porch below the ducts where there was no plywood or flashing, came in, and burrowed right into the return air duct, shredding a roughly one-foot hole through insulation and all. The tech that came up to do the tune-up (which we scheduled because it wasn’t cooling like it should) found out not only the hole, but a big chunk of the insulation had got pushed/sucked in and partially blocked the evaporator coil, so that would be a big reason why things weren’t right.

Now, I get to partially disassemble that big-ass wooden raceway to allow access for the tech to come back next week to replace that whole section of duct…for about 300 bucks or so.

It’s a damn wonder we all haven’t come down with hantavirus or the fucking plague…

552
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:04:18am
553
Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:06:03am

re: #550 plansbandc

What they tell themselves is that the parents committed a crime and therefore aren’t innocent. I know, because I have this argument on Facebook.

554
ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:07:34am

re: #532 makeitstop

Oh, boy. The Koch-Trump battle escalates…

Does Bannon even have any political juice left at this point?

Enough to help wreck the Republican party.

555
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:08:56am

A daily reminder of things you can be fairly certain Dotard will never do

556
Sea Mexican!  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:09:23am

re: #554 ObserverArt

Enough to help wreck the Republican party.

Bannon is right, just for the wrong reasons. Taking money from the Koch brothers and Co. is toxic in its own right.

557
Jay C  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:11:55am

re: #532 makeitstop

Oh, boy. The Koch-Trump battle escalates…

Does Bannon even have any political juice left at this point?

Probably not: but his firmly-ensconced position in the RWNJ media world will ensure that it looks that way. Or at least they’ll try to.
Sounds to me like a bit of pre-emptive excuse-making: if the “blue wave” in November sweeps enough Republicans out of office, Sloppy Steve and his creatures can always claim it was because they weren’t supportive enough of Fearless Leader. Or whatever excuse the can concoct.

558
Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:16:49am

re: #557 Jay C

Probably not: but his firmly-ensconced position in the RWNJ media world will ensure that it looks that way. Or at least they’ll try to.
Sounds to me like a bit of pre-emptive excuse-making: if the “blue wave” in November sweeps enough Republicans out of office, Sloppy Steve and his creatures can always claim it was because they weren’t supportive enough of Fearless Leader. Or whatever excuse the can concoct.

I would be $20 worth of Koch products if they make the following statement in response: “The American people realize that tariffs and racism make the country weaker and have no place here.”

559
freetoken  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:22:24am

I Brexit,
You Brexit,
We all Brexit,
As the avocados exit:

What Will Happen If Brexit Banishes The Avocado From London?

FWIW, here in SoCal, avocados are about a $1 each.

560
electrotek  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:24:58am

On another note, has Trump said anything about the American cyclists who were killed in Tajikistan yesterday?

561
JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:26:16am
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JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:32:45am
563
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:34:38am

I’ve heard too many BOOMs but I haven’t seen anything blow up.

564
Teukka  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:36:13am

*snickers*

565
JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:37:19am
566
Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:37:25am
567
Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:38:46am
568
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:39:43am

This guy’s reaction is pretty much my reaction to everything the orange bag does every damn day.

569
Teukka  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:39:44am

re: #566 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:40:13am
571
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:41:00am

A Jewish friend of mine gleefully voted for Trump. It boggles my mind.

572
JordanRules  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:42:48am
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Interesting Times  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:43:38am

re: #571 plansbandc

A Jewish friend of mine gleefully voted for Trump. It boggles my mind.

Netanyahu fan? :/

574
HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:43:38am

re: #572 JordanRules

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Bullshit Nielsen.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:44:21am
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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:45:07am

re: #575 Charles Johnson

It does make things just that much easier.

577
Belafon  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:45:31am

re: #575 Charles Johnson

After they throw their Keureg out the window.

578
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:46:24am

re: #535 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We tried to borrow/rent a friend’s goats to do some goat-cleaning of overgrown areas in our yard, but she said they’re so spoiled they won’t eat that kind of imperfect food.

Funniest “first world problem” story I have read in a long time.

579
BeenHereAwhile  Jul 31, 2018 • 11:48:04am

re: #430 Targetpractice

It’s interesting you bring up Gotti when I was just about to write a post about how all this needs to be seen less like addressing a major political scandal and more like taking down the mob. We’re gonna end up making a lot of unsatisfactory deals with a lot of very unsavory characters. That’s going to mean plea deals and immunity exchanged for testimony, papers, emails, texts, etc. Hell, given the look into the Trump empire’s finances, we might have to console ourselves that while Don Jr doesn’t go away for perjury, he will be left dodging bill collectors to his dying day.

Trump has always been a wiseguy wantabee.

He talks too much.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:03:55pm

re: #562 JordanRules

Remember the time Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager went to jail on federal charges?

Yeah neither do I.

581
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:07:04pm
582
makeitstop  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:14:26pm

re: #579 BeenHereAwhile

Trump has always been a wiseguy wantabee.

He talks too much.

The Five Families were happy to pour his concrete, but they never let him get anywhere near the inner circle.

The Russian Mob was much more accommodating, because they knew a sucker when they saw one.

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2018 • 12:18:53pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

this morning in the Ohio River Valley:

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1.33 inches in the rain gauge so far and still pouring down.

We had that the last couple of days. Best rain we have had all year. And the thunder is rolling as I write….


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