Friday Night Ballad: Natalia Lafourcade, “Alma Mía” Ft. Los Macorinos

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126 comments
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Archangelus  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:33:25pm

Methinks she’s pretty much toast after this…

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:35:31pm

re: #1 Archangelus

Methinks she’s pretty much toast after this…

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She’ll hold the record for getting negative votes.

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piratedan  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:40:12pm

re: #1 Archangelus

If she thinks that there’s “nothing to see here”, then why fire Comey? Why lie about all of the meetings with all of the Russians? Why didn’t the Trump campaign report all of these approaches to the authorities? Why didn’t McConnell allow the Obama Adminstration to issue a warning? Why didn’t anyone in the media pay attention?

This is likely the biggest scandal in the history of the nation and this lady would like us to just move on and sing kumbaya, while we have the same batch of fine Americans committing obstruction, perjury and violations of the emoluments clauses, he hasn’t released his tax returns and is STILL running his business and is treating the running of the government by siphoning each act of government business into his properties..

and we haven’t even gotten to his policy yet… and she wants to turn the page…

e-i-e-i-don’t think so

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:40:37pm

From downstairs about license plates …

re: #246 teleskiguy

Been crying off and on.

But you know what?

I found this thread!

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I always (for like 40 years) wanted 3M TA3

Always. Still do!!

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:43:48pm

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

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Mattand  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:45:19pm

Got off of my digital ass and finally gave Gabbard’s political career the once over on Wikipedia.

Christ, this woman is all over the map. She really comes off like someone who wants to be Republican, but finds an easier path to power by claiming to be a Democrat. Then from there, she stakes out that sweet, sweet ‘moderate’ middle ground (“Look, I support abortion rights AND I want to make peace with Trump! Where’s my moderate cookie???”)

AKA, Joe Manchin Syndrome.

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Mattand  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:46:26pm

re: #5 DodgerFan1988

Rather than a complicated graph, isn’t there some easier way to determine this? Like, reading Ben’s Twitter feed?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:50:18pm

Idle speculation: Barr had repeatedly demonstrated his absolute loyalty to Republican Presidents and their staff, a perfect exemplar of party over country throughout his entire career. Is there any possibility that he is slowly realizing this commitment will destroy his reputation in the era of Trump and that he will find that he cannot continue in this role? Whatever the flaws of the prior presidents he served (including participation in Iran-contra), none were affiliated and subservient to the leader of a hostile foreign power; their crimes were tied to actions that they thought would benefit this nation. Could this difference ultimately cause him to reconsider his position, perhaps even lead him to resign?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:52:22pm

I have watched this whole clip.

Alex Jones dug his own grave.

Alex Jones / Sandy Hook Video Deposition, Part I

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:54:57pm

re: #6 Mattand

Got off of my digital ass and finally gave Gabbard’s political career the once over on Wikipedia.

Christ, this woman is all over the map. She really comes off like someone who wants to be Republican, but finds an easier path to power by claiming to be a Democrat. Then from there, she stakes out that sweet, sweet ‘moderate’ middle ground (“Look, I support abortion rights AND I want to make peace with Trump! Where’s my moderate cookie???”)

AKA, Joe Manchin Syndrome.

Not fair to Joe. He represents a very red state; who knows what he would do if the state suddenly turned blue. Tulsi doesn’t have that handicap.

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Mattand  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:55:06pm

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

Idle speculation: Barr had repeatedly demonstrated his absolute loyalty to Republican Presidents and their staff, a perfect exemplar of party over country throughout his entire career. Is there any possibility that he is slowly realizing this commitment will destroy his reputation in the era of Trump and that he will find that he cannot continue in this role? Whatever the flaws of the prior presidents he served (including participation in Iran-contra), none were affiliated and subservient to the leader of a hostile foreign power; their crimes were tied to actions that they thought would benefit this nation. Could this difference ultimately cause him to reconsider his position, perhaps even lead him to resign?

Maybe. I think Bob Cesca pointed out on the last podcast that it may be dawning on Barr that, at some point, he has to turn over an unredacted report to the House. Maybe he’s trying to cover his ass already.

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for him to do right by the country, though. Trump wouldn’t have picked Barr for AG unless Barr had proved before hand he’d be Lt. Lickspittle.

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piratedan  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:57:52pm

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

what reputation?

the guy who let the Iran-Contra criminals walk free and kissed RR’s ass to hold them to zero accountability despite the crimes committed?

that reputation?

sorry, this guy will set the country afire because he has no conscious or moral center. For guys like Barr, the GOP is the Mother, The Son and The Holy Ghost.

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Mattand  Mar 29, 2019 • 9:59:42pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

Not fair to Joe. He represents a very red state; who knows what he would do if the state suddenly turned blue. Tulsi doesn’t have that handicap.

What you say is logical and factual, but Joey M. has fucked over the party so many times, I’m not inclined to give him a pass.

On one level, I get he’s elected to serve the need of WV in the Senate, and if WV has far too many people who think Trump is their god king, he’s in a bind.

One another level: fucking do the right thing, for once. Even if it does cost you your job.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:00:51pm

When it comes to Barr, I look at the motherfather’s track record.

He made sure that the Republicans who looted the S&L’s (Especially Neil Bush) were let off the hook.

He made sure that his Neocon pals got away with Iran-Contra.

He will do everything to make sure Republicans get away with treason.

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MsJ  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:03:31pm

Enlightening article.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:06:50pm

re: #13 Mattand

What you say is logical and factual, but Joey M. has fucked over the party so many times, I’m not inclined to give him a pass.

On one level, I get he’s elected to serve the need of WV in the Senate, and if WV has far too many people who think Trump is their god king, he’s in a bind.

One another level: fucking do the right thing, for once. Even if it does cost you your job.

“Look, we migh lose the Senate again if you vote with the Democrats 100% of the time, but this country will be better for it.”

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:08:05pm

re: #16 Belafon

I mean, really, what’s the point of holding the Senate majority leader position anyway.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:09:27pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:13:34pm

re: #13 Mattand

What you say is logical and factual, but Joey M. has fucked over the party so many times, I’m not inclined to give him a pass.

On one level, I get he’s elected to serve the need of WV in the Senate, and if WV has far too many people who think Trump is their god king, he’s in a bind.

One another level: fucking do the right thing, for once. Even if it does cost you your job.

The problem is that we cannot afford to lose a single seat. As bad as he may be, he is infinitely better than the Republican who would replace him. It’s not as though a progressive Democrat can win that seat.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:19:28pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

GT is the media arm of the Chinese Communist Party. Even so, I think China can probably withstand the Trump trade war a lot better than the USA can.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:24:43pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 29, 2019 • 10:52:09pm
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fern01  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:25:52pm

re: #11 Mattand

Maybe. I think Bob Cesca pointed out on the last podcast that it may be dawning on Barr that, at some point, he has to turn over an unredacted report to the House. Maybe he’s trying to cover his ass already.

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for him to do right by the country, though. Trump wouldn’t have picked Barr for AG unless Barr had proved before hand he’d be Lt. Lickspittle.

No-one who works for trump is doing right by the country,

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:28:23pm

re: #11 Mattand

Maybe. I think Bob Cesca pointed out on the last podcast that it may be dawning on Barr that, at some point, he has to turn over an unredacted report to the House. Maybe he’s trying to cover his ass already.

I am waiting for the leaks…I can well expect that they will be highly selective and strategic in nature

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 29, 2019 • 11:57:56pm

True story

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 30, 2019 • 12:13:53am

Bigots in this country don’t pay much of a price for their bigotry, especially in comparison to the very real misery and despair they cause. I wonder how many strokes of the hammer it would take for Bryant to recant?
Republican Governor: Conservatives are Ready to be Crucified to Oppose Gay Rights

Naturally, it makes sense that Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant was “honored” by a hate group, Family Research Council, with their first ever “Samuel Adams Religious Freedom Award” for signing his state’s anti-LGBT law.

During Bryant’s acceptance speech he tried to blame “secular progressives” who realize that this country is ruled by the Constitution and not the Bible for trying to put pressure on him not to sign a law that blatantly violates the Constitutional rights of LGBT Americans.

“They don’t know us very well, do they?” Bryant asked. “They don’t know that Christians have been persecuted throughout the ages. They don’t know that if it takes crucifixion, we will stand in line before abandoning our faith and our belief in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So if we are going to stand, now is the time and this is the place.”

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ericblair  Mar 30, 2019 • 1:05:01am

re: #11 Mattand

Maybe. I think Bob Cesca pointed out on the last podcast that it may be dawning on Barr that, at some point, he has to turn over an unredacted report to the House. Maybe he’s trying to cover his ass already.

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for him to do right by the country, though. Trump wouldn’t have picked Barr for AG unless Barr had proved before hand he’d be Lt. Lickspittle.

He’s a total gooper hack and fixer, brought in specifically to get Trump out of this jam. That much is pretty clear. He’s also not stupid. I’m pretty sure he understands what massive danger the Republican party is in if even a fraction of its criminality and betrayal is revealed, so drastic risky measures are needed: cement Republican minority rule for good or die.

My guess is that he’s spent the last several weeks battling Trump’s stupid impulses. Trump demands he put out a letter NOW NOW NOW that says the yam is in the clear, so that’s what he does, even though waiting a while would be better. However, Barr doesn’t want to see himself in the clink if this falls apart, so he tries to come up to the line of outright obstruction but not quite cross it.

So despite an initial attempt by spineless hacks in the media to normalize everything, people start reading between the lines a bit, and nobody ends up buying this letter except the ones who already think Hitlery is a lizard alien. Democrats now have political power and aren’t dumb enough to get rolled into taking delays and excuses. Barr convinces Trump that this letter has bad ratings and he’s got to do something. Probably start the major legal battle to bury this thing for good.

Trump is a huge bullshitting conman, and therefore a huge sucker who believes his own spin. He, of course, hasn’t read a word of the report or the Barr letter, but actually believes it clears him because that’s what everybody said on the teevee. So hey, sure, let’s release the report! Barr, not being stupid, understands what a fucking disaster this would be for the GOP, and tells him that he needs to clean it up to release it. So now he’s trying to argue for a month to polish this enormous turd into something that could possibly look like an exoneration if you squinted hard enough.

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fern01  Mar 30, 2019 • 1:08:44am

re: #27 ericblair

He’s a total gooper hack and fixer, brought in specifically to get Trump out of this jam. That much is pretty clear. He’s also not stupid. I’m pretty sure he understands what massive danger the Republican party is in if even a fraction of its criminality and betrayal is revealed, so drastic risky measures are needed: cement Republican minority rule for good or die.

My guess is that he’s spent the last several weeks battling Trump’s stupid impulses. Trump demands he put out a letter NOW NOW NOW that says the yam is in the clear, so that’s what he does, even though waiting a while would be better. However, Barr doesn’t want to see himself in the clink if this falls apart, so he tries to come up to the line of outright obstruction but not quite cross it.

So despite an initial attempt by spineless hacks in the media to normalize everything, people start reading between the lines a bit, and nobody ends up buying this letter except the ones who already think Hitlery is a lizard alien. Democrats now have political power and aren’t dumb enough to get rolled into taking delays and excuses. Barr convinces Trump that this letter has bad ratings and he’s got to do something. Probably start the major legal battle to bury this thing for good.

Trump is a huge bullshitting conman, and therefore a huge sucker who believes his own spin. He, of course, hasn’t read a word of the report or the Barr letter, but actually believes it clears him because that’s what everybody said on the teevee. So hey, sure, let’s release the report! Barr, not being stupid, understands what a fucking disaster this would be for the GOP, and tells him that he needs to clean it up to release it. So now he’s trying to argue for a month to polish this enormous turd into something that could possibly look like an exoneration if you squinted hard enough.

Worth repeating

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2019 • 1:51:27am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bigots in this country don’t pay much of a price for their bigotry, especially in comparison to the very real misery and despair they cause. I wonder how many strokes of the hammer it would take for Bryant to recant?
Republican Governor: Conservatives are Ready to be Crucified to Oppose Gay Rights

Again: Let us now quote everything that Jesus had to say in the Bible about gays:

“…”

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 1:56:41am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Broken record that I am: Trump was elected because a large part of the US electorate are undergoing an existential crisis because their religion has been hammered by almost two centuries of the modern world. So Trump plays on that angst and offers a false hope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2019 • 1:59:14am

re: #30 freetoken

Broken record that I am: Trump was elected because a large part of the US electorate are undergoing an existential crisis because their religion has been hammered by almost two centuries of the modern world. So Trump plays on that angst and offers a false hope.

clinging to guns and Bibles, aided by a man who dodged military service and does not know Two Corinthians from Three Stooges…

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 2:13:35am
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ckkatz  Mar 30, 2019 • 2:58:00am

From last thread:

re: #141 William Lewis

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
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Looks like AMD finally added graphics support to the Ryzen 5.

I purchased a Ryzen 5 1400 a couple of years ago when I was building my current computer. And was surprised to find out that it did not support graphics. I ended up buying a GTX 1050 Ti. Which eats up two motherboard slots.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 30, 2019 • 3:35:26am

re: #33 ckkatz

From last thread:

Looks like AMD finally added graphics support to the Ryzen 5.

I purchased a Ryzen 5 1400 a couple of years ago when I was building my current computer. And was surprised to find out that it did not support graphics. I ended up buying a GTX 1050 Ti. Which eats up two motherboard slots.

Graphics cards are basically computers within computers. The extra space is needed for the cooler to keep the GPU from melting.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 30, 2019 • 3:45:00am

Betsy DeVos once again proving she’s unqualified for her job.

Nearly every classroom size study has determined that smaller class sizes are beneficial to students’ learning, class discipline, and teacher-student interaction. Smaller classes also relieve both teacher and student stress, since the teacher can pay attention to the students’ needs and behavior better. Plus, it just makes sense.

Besides, isn’t one of the selling points of charter schools smaller class sizes?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2019 • 3:47:03am

re: #35 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

‘Betsy DeVos claims larger class sizes are actually good for students’

And eating dirt is good for digestion…

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 30, 2019 • 3:59:41am

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jeffreyw  Mar 30, 2019 • 5:20:21am

Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 30, 2019 • 5:53:37am

re: #34 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Graphics cards are basically computers within computers. The extra space is needed for the cooler to keep the GPU from melting.

Yup.

I run a GTX 1080, and it takes up the space of two slots, but motherboards (I have an ASUS HERO VII and an ASUS STRIX Z390-E) are designed with that is mind. The PCIe-16 slots are spaced 2 single card widths apart; the fact that you’re eating up the PCIe-8 slots is irrelevant. What exactly are you going to use them for?

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Chrysicat  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:08:42am
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William Lewis  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:11:23am

re: #40 Chrysicat

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That actually is a danger, especially since the GOA makes the NRA look like liberals.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:14:25am

re: #41 William Lewis

That actually is a danger, especially since the GOA makes the NRA look like liberals.

Yeah, GOA are even more hardcore lunatics than the NRA.

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Old Liberal  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:18:13am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bigots in this country don’t pay much of a price for their bigotry, especially in comparison to the very real misery and despair they cause. I wonder how many strokes of the hammer it would take for Bryant to recant?
Republican Governor: Conservatives are Ready to be Crucified to Oppose Gay Rights

If you insist.

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Old Liberal  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:22:51am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, GOA are even more hardcore lunatics than the NRA.

They’re both shit. Kill the one then kill the replacement.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:41:49am

re: #35 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Betsy DeVos once again proving she’s unqualified for her job.

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Nearly every classroom size study has determined that smaller class sizes are beneficial to students’ learning, class discipline, and teacher-student interaction. Smaller classes also relieve both teacher and student stress, since the teacher can pay attention to the students’ needs and behavior better. Plus, it just makes sense.

Besides, isn’t one of the selling points of charter schools smaller class sizes?

I wonder what kind of school she sen her own kids to.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:44:35am

re: #34 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Graphics cards are basically computers within computers. The extra space is needed for the cooler to keep the GPU from melting.

They are also used for block-chain mining to boot.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:49:40am

And speaking of blockchain…..
BofA, Wells Fargo sour on blockchain

SAN FRANCISCO — The bill is finally coming due on the investments that two of the nation’s largest banks have made in blockchain technology.

At an industry conference Wednesday, top executives from Wells Fargo and Bank of America expressed major skepticism about the technology’s potential in the financial services sphere. The comments suggested that their interest in distributed ledgers is wearing thin.

“Personally I think blockchain has been way oversold,” Wells Fargo (ex-)CEO Tim Sloan said in remarks at the Fintech Ideas Festival. “By now, that should have completely changed the industry. And that’s just not the way it is.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:54:41am

re: #39 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yup.

I run a GTX 1080, and it takes up the space of two slots, but motherboards (I have an ASUS HERO VII and an ASUS STRIX Z390-E) are designed with that is mind. The PCIe-16 slots are spaced 2 single card widths apart; the fact that you’re eating up the PCIe-8 slots is irrelevant. What exactly are you going to use them for?

legacy slots, like cases that used to include 3.5” floppy drives

Though cryptocurrency miners use adapters to run GPUs off the 8x and 1x slots., so I guess they still have utility.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 30, 2019 • 6:59:12am

re: #47 Eric The Fruit Bat

And speaking of blockchain…..
BofA, Wells Fargo sour on blockchain

The cynic in me believes the Big Banks are not so keen on blockchain/distributed ledger technology because redundant, incorruptible, permanent records of all their transactions would make it hard to cover their tracks if they got caught doing something naughty.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 30, 2019 • 7:04:40am

re: #45 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Her kids probably go to a school far better than the one she obviously went to. Of all the dumb and corrupt and crazy people in this administration, I think she is probably the winner for dumb.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 30, 2019 • 7:04:43am

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The cynic in me believes the Big Banks are not so keen on blockchain/distributed ledger technology

That is perhaps one of the reasons why the TBTF institutions won’t jump on that train. On the other hand:

And there is no sign yet that Wells Fargo and Bank of America are throwing in the towel. Sloan said Wednesday that he thinks blockchain technology will have an impact over time, while Bessant said that BofA is experimenting aggressively.

Still, their remarks served as a rejoinder to bold predictions from years past about the game-changing potential of blockchain, the record-keeping technology behind bitcoin. In a December 2015 research note, analysts at Goldman Sachs wrote: “The blockchain could disrupt everything.”In separate comments Wednesday, Bessant argued that Apple’s new credit card, which was unveiled earlier this week, could have a positive impact on the retail industry’s adoption of mobile payments.

The Apple Card, which will be issued by Goldman Sachs, will be highly integrated with the iPhone.

But the payment card industry are well aware as to what is to come:

Also speaking Wednesday was Mastercard CEO Ajay Banga, who predicted that once 5G is adopted, far more devices will be connected to the internet, which will lead to a massive increase in data collection by businesses, causing cybersecurity risks to multiply.

Banga warned that criminals are envisioning the ever-more-connected future and saying, “Boy, good times are coming.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 30, 2019 • 7:10:47am

re: #51 Eric The Fruit Bat

The TBTF institutions only like blockchains/DLTs that they create and control. The average Joe will not have access to that technology, other than through gateways like Apple Card or the banks’ own apps.

OTOH the Japanese banks are keen on a private blockchain developed by NEM, a cryptocurrency project less well known than Bitcoin, and Ethereum is also developing a private blockchain platform for corporate and government users. There are others besides those, but the TBTF banks would rather keep everything in-house. I can’t say I blame them, but their history of resisting cyber-attacks is checkered.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 30, 2019 • 7:32:59am

re: #40 Chrysicat

Just a fundraising stunt. They do this every year. But some day, I hope they do get buried. GOoA won’t have nearly the amount of influence the NRA has.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2019 • 7:39:28am

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

Just a fundraising stunt. They do this every year.

Just like a furniture store with an endless “Going out of business!” sale.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:03:40am

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

Just like a furniture store with an endless “Going out of business!” sale.

I wonder if it would have broken worse for the NRA if they’d turned out to have sold out to the Chinese rather than the Russians. There is a fig-leaf for the nuts that it’s a conservative religious white regime that is interfering with the country’s electoral system.

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stpaulbear  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:05:53am

re: #12 piratedan

what reputation?

the guy who let the Iran-Contra criminals walk free and kissed RR’s ass to hold them to zero accountability despite the crimes committed?

that reputation?

sorry, this guy will set the country afire because he has no conscious or moral center. For guys like Barr, the GOP is the Mother, The Son and The Holy Ghost.

NYT Opinion
Oliver North Showed Republicans the Way Out
Belligerence, shamelessness and partisanship can take you far.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:10:29am

What really needs to die is NRA-ILA. ILA being the lobbying, NRA being the LEO and safety training, range management, help with EPA and regulatory compliance.

Somebody has to maintain a national infrastructure for the shooting sports, LEO training, and yes the help for the military. Who would that even be?

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:16:40am

re: #57 Unshaken Defiance

What really needs to die is NRA-ILA. ILA being the lobbying, NRA being the LEO and safety training, range management, help with EPA and regulatory compliance.

Somebody has to maintain a national infrastructure for the shooting sports, LEO training, and yes the help for the military. Who would that even be?

I’m gonna make you cringe.

How about a government controlled agency that ties shooting sports into gun registration, etc.? Maybe we can get a grip on the whole gun issue in this country.

The NRA needs to go away. It is permanently corrupted and most likely half the country doesn’t trust them. I don’t think they can ever get over their name now. I know I don’t trust them.

I also know I am dreaming because the one thing the NRA has done is make a majority of people think the government is coming after their guns. Thank you NRA for cementing that paranoia. So, a government agency is probably a no-go.

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William Lewis  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:20:36am

re: #57 Unshaken Defiance

Sorry but the NRA stopped being worth anything in the coup of 77. It needs to die completely and be replaced by something else. Perhaps the Civilian Marksmanship Program thecmp.org could be expanded to fulfill the once upon a time positive aspects of the now corrupted NRA?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:35:56am

re: #59 William Lewis

The CMP is a good idea but the NRA has become way too political. I really hate when they tell me how to vote.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:41:29am

re: #58 ObserverArt
re: #59 William Lewis

Gonna try to be crystal clear here. Not defending WP, ILA or any of the politics. Otoh, I see what happens where that safety infrastructure is absent. Unsupervised idiots shooting up forestland and trashing it. Injuries and death from accidents at a far higher rate.

Safety, training, building and maintaining and instructor cadre that spans .22 rimfire for plinking with the Scouts all the way through Hostage Rescue Team and IRS ranges at FBI is no easy task to take up without experience and the support of the people involved in the work. And that says nothing about how they teach ranges to comply with EPA etc. Hint-EPA has all the rules and yet none of the correct answers to how to do that.

I don’t cringe at the idea of an agency per se. But by what example do we think they would be really good at it? Homeland Security? ATF could not even rule against the bump stock. Would this look like FEMA Puerto Rico or a defense dept procurement system?

Is NSSF a candidate or are they off the list of possibles as well? The gun accident rate has been falling as a result of safety efforts. It used to be very high compared to now. I think what we do not want is that going the wrong way like vehicle deaths are.

Of course, some would say just kill the sport off. I’m not there. More to the point I stand firmly against that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:42:04am

re: #60 PhillyPretzel

The CMP is a good idea but the NRA has become way too political. I really hate when they tell me how to vote.

Exactly. ILA is what needs to die.

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:50:34am

Juanita Jean’s poster “El Jefe” has had it: OK, I Give Up.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:53:18am

re: #61 Unshaken Defiance

Gonna try to be crystal clear here. Not defending WP, ILA or any of the politics. Otoh, I see what happens where that safety infrastructure is absent. Unsupervised idiots shooting up forestland and trashing it. Injuries and death from accidents at a far higher rate.

Of course, some would say just kill the sport off. I’m not there. More to the point I stand firmly against that.

Can we say the problems with guns are the manufacturers then?

The lobbying on their behalf is the real problem. They get a taste of their power through lobbying and they have hurt this country with that power.

Of course, lobbying is a problem in general, but the NRA is a very visible result of that problem.

They took a sport and made it a political body and even the sportsmen have no real control over them.

To me they are more political than they are sports and have been for a long time now.

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William Lewis  Mar 30, 2019 • 8:54:56am

re: #61 Unshaken Defiance

I actually understand exactly what you are talking about. I simply believe that ALL of the NRA, not just the ILA branch, has become too corrupted to do that any more and that we must empower someone else to do it. The CMP is good possibility because it already exists and is trusted by the wingnuts. But the NRA’s charter has to be revoked, in it’s entirety.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:02:38am

re: #64 ObserverArt

Can we say the problems with guns are the manufacturers then?

The lobbying on their behalf is the real problem. They get a taste of their power through lobbying and they have hurt this country with that power.

Of course, lobbying is a problem in general, but the NRA is a very visible result of that problem.

They took a sport and made it a political body and even the sportsmen have no real control over them.

To me they are more political than they are sports and have been for a long time now.

I think it comes down to the lack of regulations on the lobbying or perhaps the enforcement. Car makers are as big and can lobby as hard as Colt or Remington. But everything about how cars are made and used is regulated. All the way to the maximum and minimum brightness of the brake lights. If there is anything made of metal we love as much or more than guns, it is our cars. So to me the problem, the methods and the solutions are all political and regulatory.

When did the NRA training or range compliance efforts ever make the news? Hard to see how any non shooter would have the slightest clue what anyone but Wayne has to say from NRA. That dude has got to go, should have been voted out when Bush quit the NRA.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:13:05am

re: #66 Unshaken Defiance

I think it comes down to the lack of regulations on the lobbying or perhaps the enforcement. Car makers are as big and can lobby as hard as Colt or Remington. But everything about how cars are made and used is regulated. All the way to the maximum and minimum brightness of the brake lights. If there is anything made of metal we love as much or more than guns, it is our cars. So to me the problem, the methods and the solutions are all political and regulatory.

When did the NRA training or range compliance efforts ever make the news? Hard to see how any non shooter would have the slightest clue what anyone but Wayne has to say from NRA. That dude has got to go, should have been voted out when Bush quit the NRA.

And right there is the big problem with both the NRA and their hardcore backers. The mere mention of regulations and they all freak out and start talking about the Constitution.

Got any way to get past that?

With the NRA, I think there is no way, and so like William says, they need to be broken up.

I guess it is a good thing cars were not around back in 1776.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:21:53am

re: #67 ObserverArt

And right there is the big problem with both the NRA and their hardcore backers. The mere mention of regulations and they all freak out and start talking about the Constitution.

Got any way to get past that?

With the NRA, I think there is no way, and so like William says, they need to be broken up.

I guess it is a good thing cars were not around back in 1776.

We do have a right to travel interstate without a passport. Well that got infringed. But that right underpins car ownership and use. Which is why TSA can so far (falsely) claim we need our special papers (Real ID, more Orwellian language) beyond state ID to fly domestic starting next October. Because you can drive, walk like a refugee or take a train.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:26:26am

re: #67 ObserverArt

And right there is the big problem with both the NRA and their hardcore backers. The mere mention of regulations and they all freak out and start talking about the Constitution.

Got any way to get past that?

With the NRA, I think there is no way, and so like William says, they need to be broken up.

I guess it is a good thing cars were not around back in 1776.

As long as the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Guns Act remains in place, it’s going to be difficult to get a real handle on guns in this country. While the GOP is in control, how are we going to pass legislation that eliminates the gun show loophole in the sale of weapons by private parties? Personally, I think that it should be illegal to transfer any gun, by sale or gift or inheritance, to any person unless that person first passes a background check.

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:27:45am

re: #68 Unshaken Defiance

We do have a right to travel interstate without a passport. Well that got infringed. But that right underpins car ownership and use. Which is why TSA can so far (falsely) claim we need our special papers (Real ID, more Orwellian language) beyond state ID to fly domestic starting next October. Because you can drive, walk like a refugee or take a train.

Bicycle.

Cyclists do not yet need licenses. Also, drivers of things with less than 50cc engines, or something, in this state anyway. I think if it has motor-assist, you need to be licensed. My feelings and thoughts on human-powered vehicles are mixed.

Motorized cycles and human-powered cycles should not be mixed, IMHO.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:35:39am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

As long as the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Guns Act remains in place, it’s going to be difficult to get a real handle on guns in this country. While the GOP is in control, how are we going to pass legislation that eliminates the gun show loophole in the sale of weapons by private parties? Personally, I think that it should be illegal to transfer any gun, by sale or gift or inheritance, to any person unless that person first passes a background check.

It’s called state law. Comes by way of States right to regulate all kinds of things. We can’t really just make a Federal law for every State regulatory fail. No more than the executive can legislate.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:38:38am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

As long as the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Guns Act remains in place, it’s going to be difficult to get a real handle on guns in this country. While the GOP is in control, how are we going to pass legislation that eliminates the gun show loophole in the sale of weapons by private parties? Personally, I think that it should be illegal to transfer any gun, by sale or gift or inheritance, to any person unless that person first passes a background check.

By the idea that Colt sells a gun legally, it gets stolen and used by a mass killer, and be held responsible is identical logic to holding Boeing responsible for 9/11. I don’t agree. Not for any mfg of anything.

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ericblair  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:39:53am

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The cynic in me believes the Big Banks are not so keen on blockchain/distributed ledger technology because redundant, incorruptible, permanent records of all their transactions would make it hard to cover their tracks if they got caught doing something naughty.

They’re not keen on it because it’s an incredibly inefficient solution in search of a problem. Yes, you get a record of all transactions from some X to some Y account over all time (more or less), and anyone can see it. Great. It doesn’t solve the big problem that you still don’t know who X and Y are, because that’s another feature. It doesn’t help anything if they belong to numbered corporations in some tax haven with officers who only exist in a ledger somewhere. And proof of work is a major environmental threat, with the energy and pollution from mining now equivalent to that from a small country.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:41:50am

re: #71 Unshaken Defiance

It’s called state law. Comes by way of States right to regulate all kinds of things. We can’t really just make a Federal law for every State regulatory fail. No more than the executive can legislate.

But we already have a federal law that requires background checks for the sale of guns by licensed dealers. This is a regulatory failure that leads to thousands of deaths annually. As long as a gun transfer in one state can lead to deaths in other states I would think that the federal government would have an interest in regulation.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:42:32am

re: #70 wrenchwench

Bicycle.

Cyclists do not yet need licenses. Also, drivers of things with less than 50cc engines, or something, in this state anyway. I think if it has motor-assist, you need to be licensed. My feelings and thoughts on human-powered vehicles are mixed.

Motorized cycles and human-powered cycles should not be mixed, IMHO.

Same here in PA for small engine scooters and the like, no need for license until you get into the bigger models. But also, you cannot take those smaller scooters and such on the 4 lane freeways since most won’t do the 45 MPH min speed for that roadway. So they got ya on that one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:43:54am

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:45:07am

Begs the question. Why is Bannon on TV?
1) He’s ugly (inside and out)
2) He has nothing to say.
3) He’s fucking ugly.
4) He’s an asshole.
5) Did I mention ugly? (check out the caption under the pic. Hint it sums up his ugliness)

Facebook

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:48:21am

re: #77 I Would Prefer Not To

Holy Crap!

It’s Gilbert & Sullivan’s Desmond Murgatroyd come to life!

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Teukka  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:50:48am
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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:53:21am

re: #75 Eventual Carrion

Same here in PA for small engine scooters and the like, no need for license until you get into the bigger models. But also, you cannot take those smaller scooters and such on the 4 lane freeways since most won’t do the 45 MPH min speed for that roadway. So they got ya on that one.

Here you can ride a bike on the freeway except in urban areas (I think there are 3 of those). In Oregon, you can ride a pogo stick, a unicycle, or anything you want on the freeway (with the possible exception of urban areas). The freeway is open to all forms of transport.

Some of this seeming leniency is no doubt due to the lack of options in some parts.

Minimum speeds are fascism. ////

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makeitstop  Mar 30, 2019 • 9:54:14am

In other news, the Rolling Stones have postponed their upcoming tour due to Jagger’s doctors ordering him to seek treatment for an unidentified ailment.

“Mick has been advised by doctors that he cannot go on tour at this time, as he needs medical treatment,” said a statement released by the band on Saturday. “The doctors have advised Mick that he is expected to make a complete recovery so that he can get back on stage as soon as possible.”

I don’t know what might keep those old dogs off the road (especially given that they travel in super-duper first class at all times), but I hope Mick makes a full and fast recovery.

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makeitstop  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:02:54am

Me and Jagger kilt the thread…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:05:06am

re: #82 makeitstop

Hey. That is supposed to be job. Just kidding. I am sure that almost everyone at one point or another has killed a thread.

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:06:11am

re: #83 PhillyPretzel

Hey. That is supposed to be job. Just kidding. I am sure that almost everyone at one point or another has killed a thread.

That calls for a cut ‘n’ paste:

Minimum speeds are fascism. ////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:19:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:26:10am
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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:30:12am

re: #79 Teukka

As far as I can tell, science denial is just one aspect of a large anti-social movement that has come about as the world has gotten too complicated or too big/too small for some people.

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Teukka  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:33:43am

re: #87 freetoken

As far as I can tell, science denial is just one aspect of a large anti-social movement that has come about as the world has gotten too complicated or too big/too small for some people.

Not being able to come with I/we don’t know as an answer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:33:46am

re: #80 wrenchwench

Minimum speeds are fascism. ////

Don’t forget who gave us the concept of the Autobahn

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:33:57am

When telling the truth makes people uncomfortable:

Channel 4 apologises for Jon Snow’s ‘white people’ remark

Channel 4 News has apologised after its presenter Jon Snow said he had “never seen so many white people in one place”, referring to the pro-Brexit protesters who flooded the centre of London on Friday.

[…]

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mmmirele  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:35:01am

It appears paleontologists have discovered the Holy Grail of their profession—an actual collection of fossils from the day ~66 million years ago when a meteor or comet smashed into the Gulf of Mexico. The location? The Hell Creek formation in North Dakota. A paper is being published next week in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. In the meantime, here’s a fancy press release from Cal Berkeley

news.berkeley.edu

and an article from next week’s New Yorker which goes into some detail about the paleontologist who made the discovery.

newyorker.com

If this is proven out, it’s an incredible discovery—actual fossils of animals being entombed by silt from water stirred up by the massive (magnitude 10 or 11) earthquakes generated by the Chicxulub meteor hit.

Scientists have been looking for this for four decades, ever since Walter and Luis Alvarez originally proposed that the extinction of the dinosaurs was caused by a catastrophic event. Walter Alvarez is one of the eight co-authors on this paper.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:35:05am

re: #90 freetoken

Obviously never been to a Trump rally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:35:40am
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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:36:25am

It should be reassuring when the weather says the temperature is 54 and it feels like 54.

It’s just not so reassuring that they feel the need to tell us so.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:38:36am

re: #94 wrenchwench

It is warm and sunny in Philly today. Tomorrow it is supposed to be raining.
forecast.weather.gov

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:40:40am

Because Trump has turned all of American public life into one big spectacle of infantile narcissism, big stories elsewhere hardly get noticed.

The following is an example, which came across the world news wires with several stories, but hardly gets noticed in American media (social or otherwise):

India’s Anti-Satellite Missile Test Is a Big Deal. Here’s Why.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:45:10am

Next in their ad campaign will be “The Trail of Tears”: “you’ll cry tears of joy at the exhilaration of a great trail run completed!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:46:30am
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makeitstop  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:49:02am

LOL. Also-ran wingnut news outlet cries after not getting a shout-out from Granpa Stompy Foot…

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:50:30am
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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:52:16am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I’ve always been a big fan of Francisco Goya. He is considered by many art historians to be the first modern artist, even though he studied and absorbed the masters before him.

I don’t know if he can be considered the first political artist, but he was to me the first that told me you could be political in your artwork.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:53:20am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:55:27am
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jeffreyw  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:57:54am

Breakfast today was a long time coming

The brisket took 10 days to corn with kosher and pink salts.

Six or seven hours at 275 degrees to bake.

Not long to slice.

Plenty of diced potato and a big sweet onion cook down in 20 minutes or so. Add a bunch of diced corned beef and toss to mix. Chives work well or green onions to add a bit of color.

We always top the hash with fried eggs. We have a bit leftover if anyone is hungry.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:59:49am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

And that was with a .22 revolver pistol. Look at the damage that was done with such a small caliber pistol. Makes you wonder what the results would have been with a 9 mm semi-auto pistol?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2019 • 10:59:58am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Remember the minute it happened. Mom called me at work and she was hysterical saying, “oh no! not again! It’s the ZERO YEAR Curse!”

Even though Mom hated Reagan she was in shock…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:00:55am

re: #105 ObserverArt

And that was with a .22 revolver pistol. Look at the damage that was done with such a small caliber pistol. Makes you wonder what the results would have been with a 9 mm semi-auto pistol?

Just imagine if Hinckley had a .44 revolver - and was proficient in using it.

History as we know it would be dramatically different.

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allegro  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:01:00am

re: #104 jeffreyw

… if anyone is hungry.

I am now.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:01:27am

re: #105 ObserverArt

And that was with a .22 revolver pistol. Look at the damage that was done with such a small caliber pistol. Makes you wonder what the results would have been with a 9 mm semi-auto pistol?

And that shooting actually ended up with some gun control legislation being passed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:05:38am

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

And that shooting actually ended up with some gun control legislation being passed.

And what happened when a nut opened fire on a bunch of Republican Congressmen at softball practice? And Scalise was critically wounded?

Those Congressmen who were all shot at doubled down on kissing Wayne LaPierre’s Ass and called for even looser gun regulations.

I’ve been making the same sad prediction all along that the only time we will see real gun control is when the guns are turned on a bunch of billionaires at the Bohemian Grove, Koch seminars or Mercer groups. The day after a whole bunch of billionaires are shot you will see every Republican vote for gun confiscation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:07:55am

OT — my diatribe about GOT, hidden to spare those who don’t care from my misguided rant about the series. But FREE SPEECH!!

Sorry — this rant was inspired by the #90 above reference to a real Jon Snow— though it has nothing to do with that comment

The HBO GOT series is to the novels what the Barr letter is to the Mueller report, the main difference being that while we may eventually see the report, the book series will likely never be completed. Like the Barr letter, the TV series does include fragments from the original but most of the supporting details have been suppressed or rewritten to diverge from the author’s real intent. The TV series excludes many important characters — like Barr’s stated intention to conceal names he wants to protect from scrutiny. The flawed interpretation of Benioff and Weiss of the GRRM masterpiece will be the final word on what happened — as Barr hopes to make his distortions the final word on Trump

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:12:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:14:16am

re: #112 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

it appears we have a theme starting for artists of that particular generation.

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:17:04am

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

And what happened when a nut opened fire on a bunch of Republican Congressmen at softball practice? And Scalise was critically wounded?

Those Congressmen who were all shot at doubled down on kissing Wayne LaPierre’s Ass and called for even looser gun regulations.

I’ve been making the same sad prediction all along that the only time we will see real gun control is when the guns are turned on a bunch of billionaires at the Bohemian Grove, Koch seminars or Mercer groups. The day after a whole bunch of billionaires are shot you will see every Republican vote for gun confiscation.

I’d say the law of averages sorta predicts that will happen. With the amount of guns available, the economy getting tougher and tougher on the middle to lower classes, the amount of information about everything on the net will combine to cause some nut to decide those people need to be taken out in an Americanized version of The French Revolution.

Sometimes that which you let get out of control for profit can come back to be used against you.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:19:48am

So, here’s a little sanity break for everyone; Gog, a 1954 sci-fi flick, filmed in Eastmancolor. This one is an excellent transfer.

GOG | Full Length Sci-Fi Movie | English

Enjoy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:20:00am

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

And what happened when a nut opened fire on a bunch of Republican Congressmen at softball practice? And Scalise was critically wounded?

Those Congressmen who were all shot at doubled down on kissing Wayne LaPierre’s Ass and called for even looser gun regulations.

I’ve been making the same sad prediction all along that the only time we will see real gun control is when the guns are turned on a bunch of billionaires at the Bohemian Grove, Koch seminars or Mercer groups. The day after a whole bunch of billionaires are shot you will see every Republican vote for gun confiscation.

You might be right. The GOP tend to follow what their donor class demands BUT they also know that their base consists of gun fanatics. Pivoting on that issue may lose them elections. Of course, given the muted response to Trump’s ban on bump stocks, maybe they could get away with significant gun restrictions if their donors demanded it.

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:20:39am

So the PowerBall jackpot is now reset to a puny amount … not sure I’ll buy a ticket… but I did check twitter and noticed this recent story:

Inside the hypersecure room where Powerball millionaires are made

[…]

It takes three separate people to open the door — a lottery security agent, a representative from MUSL, and an independent auditor. Technically, that’s more people than it takes to launch a nuclear missile.

[…]

If only Trump was so well cordoned off.

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freetoken  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:22:49am

Speaking of twitter and Powerball and berniebots …

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makeitstop  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:25:32am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:40:03am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

So, here’s a little sanity break for everyone; Gog, a 1954 sci-fi flick, filmed in Eastmancolor. This one is an excellent transfer.

[Embedded content]

Video

Enjoy.

And it’s gone

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:45:15am

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Weird. I’m watching it right now.

Bummer.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:48:57am

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans produce the same effect as gun control..for targeted populations like poor people and nonwhites…by shifting the acceptable standard for lethal force. This is the massive fucking red herring of “2nd Amendment” discussions: that conservatives have created a “right to kill” and keep expanding the cultural and legal definitions of “who deserves to die.”

There’s a chilling effect on “self defense” if you know that the system will murder you for the slightest perceived threat, and that rando white dudes can and will draw on you, put a bullet in you, and get away with it.

To achieve their desired result, Republicans just have to shore up a racist status quo by granting that status quo more license. Each time a black guy dies and it’s normalized that he “was a threat,” each time a distinction is made between an armed black man and an armed white man…that’s shoring up an unequal, unjust system in which use of force is not de facto an equally viable option.

Which is why the NRA is broken completely. The “gun culture” they’ve established is about radical enforcement of this status quo and the inherent threat of Otherness. For decades they’ve expanded what constitutes a “threat” that merits application of firearms, and have chosen to declare political disagreement a kind of existential threat that will eventually merit an armed response. Their fearmongering of “fighting the government” is partisan and about violent resistance to changes to the status quo; at the same time, they are unsympathetic to population who actually suffer from state violence and persecution, if they are outside of the parameters of white, Christian, conservative.

As always, I will say this: conservatives and the NRA support the 2nd Amendment in bad faith, just as they support the 1st Amendment in bad faith.

By constructing a system in which the same gun, in the same circumstances, will only get a black man shot, they’ve already succeeded, de facto, in chilling the rights of certain people. Both “self defense” and “resistance of tyranny” are not generalized goods, but a case-specific good if you are the right kind of person. With the scandal in last two years of police departments targeting left-wing agitators while being permissive with, or coordinating with (as in Oregon) fascist organizations, we’re in middle of the next experiment of creating a system in which the implicit rules about use of forces are discriminatory by design.

Consider the case of the Black Panthers prompting gun control in California. The Republicans were not simply being hypocrites, they were keeping true to their ur-value, that there are lesser kinds of people who are inherently dangerous to the status quo and must be controlled.

Every once in awhile the NRA will get its nut up and boast about how historical gun control was part of a Southern agenda to keep free blacks unarmed and vulnerable…and, you know what, they’re technically right. But if you look at what they’ve done with the idea of threat and what constitutes legitimate self defense—the NRA has imported the assumptions of Southern whites…fear of federalism, the inherent criminality of the Other, the need for armed defense of the cultural status quo (hence the endless dystopian fantasies in which socially liberal policies create tyranny required armed retaliation against “rioters”)…and their legislative and cultural agendas reflect that change.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:51:12am

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

And what happened when a nut opened fire on a bunch of Republican Congressmen at softball practice? And Scalise was critically wounded?

Those Congressmen who were all shot at doubled down on kissing Wayne LaPierre’s Ass and called for even looser gun regulations.

I’ve been making the same sad prediction all along that the only time we will see real gun control is when the guns are turned on a bunch of billionaires at the Bohemian Grove, Koch seminars or Mercer groups. The day after a whole bunch of billionaires are shot you will see every Republican vote for gun confiscation.

Martyr Cookies.

Never forget the value that Republicans put on Martyr Cookies.

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stpaulbear  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:53:39am

re: #105 ObserverArt

And that was with a .22 revolver pistol. Look at the damage that was done with such a small caliber pistol. Makes you wonder what the results would have been with a 9 mm semi-auto pistol?

Actually, that’s the last thing that Reagan’s shooting makes me wonder about.

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jeffreyw  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:54:04am

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And it’s gone

I searched for GOG on Youtube and it came up, no prob.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 30, 2019 • 11:55:35am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Weird. I’m watching it right now.

Bummer.

Found another copy, I guess

Classic Sci Fi Gog 1954


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