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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:19:03pm
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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:27:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:29:21pm
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Captain Ron  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:38:22pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:39:03pm

Aw gee, that’s a shame…

Ghislaine Maxwell’s Estranged Husband Refusing to Pay Legal Bills

Ghislaine Maxwell’s appeal attempt may be in the garbage as her estranged husband Scott Borgerson is reportedly failing to foot the bill for her legal fees. The 46-year-old tech entrepreneur allegedly failed to pay nearly $1 million in attorney bills for the convicted sex offender, despite holding the purse strings to a £20 million trust fund she set aside prior to her arrest. But the delay may force Maxwell to miss a January deadline to appeal her 20-year sentence, as the Colorado firm that defended her amid the trial, Morgan and Foreman, awaits a $900,000 check for their services. “He thinks if he drags it out, she will give him most of the money,” said one of Maxwell’s friends to the Daily Mail. “She is in jail… not much she can do from there.” Borgerson, who secretly married the socialite in 2019, refused to attend Maxwell’s court proceedings or visit her in the New York jail while she awaited her sentence for grooming and trafficking young girls to her former lover Jeffrey Epstein.

dailymail.co.uk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:45:20pm

We’re watching Everything Everywhere All at Once tonight.
Absolute insanity and I love it.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:47:54pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re watching Everything Everywhere All at Once tonight.
Absolute insanity and I love it.

Disenchanted here, the follow-up to the 2007 hit, starring the inimitable and incredibly beautiful Amy Adams, alongside the steadfast and timeless Patrick Dempsey.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:50:52pm

Sigh

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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:51:59pm

Just keep pushing that anti-vax bullshit Murdoch.

How many more people have to die to please your sleazy slimy corrupted soul?

Fox contributor Lisa Booth ranted on Sunday that the United States isn’t all that much better than China when it comes to taking away the freedoms of Americans who refuse to be vaccinated.

This ass has the audacity to say she’s going to be sent to a concentration ‘camp’.

fnc boothe vax meltdown

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:52:59pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle is running a bit late and hopes all the good seats aren’t taken.

Wordle 527 3/6

⬛⬛🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟩🟨🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Forgot to move one of my yellows from line 1 and still managed the birbie.

SibData: 3,3,3,4

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:55:05pm

When will we reach peak gun so that we’re finally safe from gun violence?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:57:10pm

re: #11 Barefoot Grin

When will we reach peak gun so that we’re finally safe from gun violence?

When every American has at least one gun and carries it with them at all times. The weakest ones will kill themselves, the strong ones will kill the ones who survive that, and those who are left are Real ‘Muricans (tm).

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:59:35pm

I totally forgot this movie

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:59:39pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:59:45pm

re: #11 Barefoot Grin

When will we reach peak gun so that we’re finally safe from gun violence?

When everyone has a missile with a nuclear warhead in their backyard ready to go at a moment’s notice…

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:59:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 27, 2022 • 4:59:48pm

re: #12 Dopamine Fish

When every American has at least one gun and carries it with them at all times. The weakest ones will kill themselves, the strong ones will kill the ones who survive that, and those who are left are Real ‘Muricans (tm).

“So, you’re not going to say ‘good morning’ to me; well that ain’t very polite!”

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:00:34pm

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

“So, you’re not going to say ‘good morning’ to me; well that ain’t very polite!”

Next morning: “‘Good morning,’ eh? I’ll show you a fucking ‘good morning!’”

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danarchy  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:01:58pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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CNN is owned by Time Warner andy doesn’t really have any one owner you could point to. OANN has lost access to pretty much every cable carrier and is essentially an online news source and pretty much irrelevant and Newsmax’s distribution isn’t much more impressive. I wouldn’t call Elon a republican, just a kind of a douche. Parler is a joke.

The liberal media thing may be BS, but not because of any of this.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:06:45pm

re: #19 danarchy

CNN is owned by Time Warner andy doesn’t really have any one owner you could point to. OANN has lost access to pretty much every cable carrier and is essentially an online news source and pretty much irrelevant and Newsmax’s distribution isn’t much more impressive. I wouldn’t call Elon a republican, just a kind of a douche. Parler is a joke.

The liberal media thing may be BS, but not because of any of this.

I thought the producers of CNN were conversive. yes not owner, but small difference.
ps (too high for sources)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:06:48pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:09:50pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hate when that happens.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:10:19pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Power lines are tough to see from the air (this is why, in locations with small plane traffic, lines are marked with those big orange buoy-like things). The question is going to come down to, was the pilot already crashing, or not? If yes, then shit, that sucks. If no, that’s gonna be problematic. He was probably flying below minimum flight level.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:12:21pm

re: #23 Dopamine Fish

Power lines are tough to see from the air (this is why, in locations with small plane traffic, lines are marked with those big orange buoy-like things). The question is going to come down to, was the pilot already crashing, or not? If yes, then shit, that sucks. If no, that’s gonna be problematic. He was probably flying below minimum flight level.

Transmission lines…those towers are pretty hard to miss seeing. My guess will be some sort of mechanical failure

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:14:51pm

The powerlines have floaters so the airplanes don’t get snagged….

Youtube Video

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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:15:07pm

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:15:33pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Transmission lines…those towers are pretty hard to miss seeing. My guess will be some sort of mechanical failure

You’re thinking in two dimensions. You can see the towers laterally, and misjudge how high above them you are. Realistically, though, the guy was at 100’. Minimum flight level is generally 500’ except in certain circumstances, none of which probably apply for that area.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:17:53pm
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gwangung  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:18:19pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

EEEP.

Glad everyone got down OK (And being without power is a price I’d pay if the folks in the plane were OK).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:20:03pm

I present the SWOTI:

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:27:29pm
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danarchy  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:29:47pm

re: #20 I Would Prefer Not To

I thought the producers of CNN were conversive. yes not owner, but small difference.
ps (too high for sources)

I think it is the new CEO who has been making all sorts of changes there. The guy is a former show runner for the late show with Stephen Colbert which makes me question if he is a die hard republican or if he is just flailing trying to raise CNN’s abysmal ratings.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:32:38pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Not surprised at all since all of them are addicted to power just like a junky is addicted to heroin and they know that Trump is the key to their getting more power.

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sagehen  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:32:51pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I present the SWOTI:

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both semi-final winners in the SPOTI contest…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:48:17pm

re: #34 sagehen

both semi-final winners in the SPOTI contest…

Can we rename it the SMFOTI?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:48:37pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Can we rename it the SMFOTI?

Works for me.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:50:48pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s nothing but a fucking freak show from top to bottom.

MGT. Kanye. Milo. Elon. …with other various outright Nazis and those who are perfectly fine codifying outright Nazis in the name of “civil discourse.”

And 25%-35% of America is on board.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:51:27pm

Can I say I’m tired of Christmas already? Between movies upon movies, each sappier than the next, the multitude of SALE NOW BUY emails and commercials and texts, honestly, I want to go into hibernation until mid January.

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darthstar  Nov 27, 2022 • 5:58:52pm

Did our adopt a family Xmas shopping today. I’m walking around with our list and I see a woman in girl’s clothing and I ask her, “Where do I find pants that fit this profile?” and she looks at me and laughs and says she’s shopping for her adopt a family as well. She looks at my list, and points me in the right direction, and we wish each other well on our adventures.

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mmmirele  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:02:01pm

re: #19 danarchy

CNN is owned by Time Warner andy doesn’t really have any one owner you could point to. OANN has lost access to pretty much every cable carrier and is essentially an online news source and pretty much irrelevant and Newsmax’s distribution isn’t much more impressive. I wouldn’t call Elon a republican, just a kind of a douche. Parler is a joke.

The liberal media thing may be BS, but not because of any of this.

Newsmax is available on Cox cable here in Phoenix. How do I know this? Because I’ve caught my younger sibling watching it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:04:10pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:05:46pm

So THIS TIME, my parents caught it from one of my dumbass extended relatives at a funeral last week, and then conveniently decided not to tell us any of this until we were already in their house. Thanks, Mom and Dad, for the gift that keeps on giving. We’ll send my daughter’s long COVID health care bills your way. Assholes.

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William Lewis  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:08:18pm

re: #38 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Can I say I’m tired of Christmas already? Between movies upon movies, each sappier than the next, the multitude of SALE NOW BUY emails and commercials and texts, honestly, I want to go into hibernation until mid January.

Yup and all the crappy music.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:10:34pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:14:13pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

“B.S.” acts just like Gene Wilder in Silver Streak. He keeps getting thrown off of the Alt-Right train yet he still insists on getting back on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:14:41pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:15:53pm

prints.joethomasphoto.com

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:21:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:26:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:29:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:32:32pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:37:59pm

re: #38 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t stand that several of my local pop stations are playing only Christmas songs/music. I am okay with the occasional Christmas song but not 24/7.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:40:04pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

I can’t stand that several of my local pop stations are playing only Christmas songs/music. I am okay with the occasional Christmas song but not 24/7.

I heard Mariah Carey TWICE this weekend alone.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:43:51pm
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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:47:03pm

re: #38 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

re: #43 William Lewis

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

re: #53 Dopamine Fish

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William Lewis  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:48:06pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

I can’t stand that several of my local pop stations are playing only Christmas songs/music. I am okay with the occasional Christmas song but not 24/7.

There are increasing numbers of Christmas songs on the classical radio stations I listen to. It gets worse the closer we get to Christmas. If they’re instrumentals, I can tolerate it, usually. If I can’t, I put on either my jazz playlist or my lute music playlist.

On Christmas day, I’ll play my Manheim Steamroller Christmas playlist but only on Christmas Day.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:51:30pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:52:50pm

re: #56 William Lewis

My parents put on their Mannheim Steamroller playlist, and my mom said, “This is my Rush Limbaugh tribute. I miss my Maha Rushie.” I almost puked.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:56:27pm

re: #42 Dopamine Fish

That would be grounds for me to never speak to my parents again. YMMV

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:58:14pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

That would be grounds for me to never speak to my parents again. YMMV

Mrs. Fish is absolutely livid. Again, we were victimized by my family, and intentionally. This is just stupid at this point. If they want us to never visit them again, they’re doing a goddamn fantastic job.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 27, 2022 • 6:59:40pm

I watched my first Christmas movie of the season yesterday,
Die Hard 2
And I somehow managed not to watch Elf a single time as it appeared TBS broadcast it for 24 hours straight

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:00:12pm

But in exchange for a crappy, deliberately isolated electrical grid (FREEDOM), we get a natural gas oligarchy rich enough to buy a governor, lt. governor, attorney general, and state legislature for peanuts.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:00:59pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:02:26pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:07:47pm

re: #42 Dopamine Fish

So THIS TIME, my parents caught it from one of my dumbass extended relatives at a funeral last week, and then conveniently decided not to tell us any of this until we were already in their house. Thanks, Mom and Dad, for the gift that keeps on giving. We’ll send my daughter’s long COVID health care bills your way. Assholes.

This is just egregiously shitty. Like, it makes me angry. And I keep thinking of Adam Serwer’s sad but relevant colloquialism “The cruelty is the point.” They WANTED to hurt you and your family…

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Dangerman  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:08:32pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Key?

How about all

(Asa Hutchinson doesn’t count)

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William Lewis  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:09:37pm

re: #58 Dopamine Fish

My parents put on their Mannheim Steamroller playlist, and my mom said, “This is my Rush Limbaugh tribute. I miss my Maha Rushie.” I almost puked.

Thankfully I have no associations of it with that fat fool.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:10:28pm

re: #67 William Lewis

Thankfully I have no associations of it with that fat fool.

He played a lot of it on his show at Christmastime. It’s how my mom found them. I love their music, but there are unfortunate mental associations there. Now, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, on the other hand.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:10:46pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:12:32pm

That BB tweet is just… not funny at all, at all. It’s just mean and stupid. Like conservatives.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:14:04pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

This is just egregiously shitty. Like, it makes me angry. And I keep thinking of Adam Serwer’s sad but relevant colloquialism “The cruelty is the point.” They WANTED to hurt you and your family…

To be honest, they didn’t think it was a big deal, because they’re part of the COVID Twoofer cult, and they think, “Ah, it’s just the flu, plus, my kids and their kids are vaccinated, so they’ll be fine. We can have them over and not worry about it.” News flash, fuckfaces: Vaccines are effective, but not 100% so. And now my daughter is at risk for long-term health problems.

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Dangerman  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:14:18pm

Re Herschel walker from downstairs.

Let the youngsters figure it out.
Most do.

If Herschel’s not, happy he can leave.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:14:51pm

This guy was almost AZ Secretary of State. Behind the hide tag because dogwhistle tornado siren.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:15:19pm

re: #73 The Pie Overlord!

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. Obsessed much?

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:15:51pm

re: #73 The Pie Overlord!

High on his own supply. Guzzling his own bathwater.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:17:05pm
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Cheechako  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:18:08pm

Time for some refreshing information:

Gimme a Smile: You are what you eat — an ode to popcorn

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:20:07pm

I’m probably late to the party, but I just realized that there are bots that ‘reflect’ tweets from twitter to Mastadon allowing folks to follow twitter accounts without having to actually be on twitter. twtr.plus is apparently one of them.

Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman@sfba.social
There’s another account @avindman@twtr.plus can anyone tell me what that is?

—-

Steve Yelvington
@steve@s.yelvington.com
@AVindman@sfba.social @avindman@twtr.plus Seems to be a tool for following Twitter accounts.
twtr.plus

From twtr.plus

About
In order to keep this service available to everyone, users are only permitted to follow 50 account(s). Any additional follows will be rejected.
The Fediverse has its own identity, culture, and norms. twtr.plus, an ethical bridge to Twitter, aims to allow other HUMANS (i.e. not followbots) to join our group without necessarily losing track of their Twitter follows. However, the service is not intended to make the Fediverse “Twitter 2” and it is not intended to allow you to re-follow your entire list. The service has a limit on how many people you can follow both because leaving Twitter just to refollow everyone on the Fediverse is against our norms, and because the high-quality method in which twtr.plus retrieves posts has limits. Do not recommend that people follow their entire following list from twtr.plus, or any other BirdsiteLIVE instance, and before following an account, consider interacting with the wider Fediverse first.

All Twitter accounts not on the whitelist post followers only, which means you cannot publicly reply to or repost their Tweets; this is intentional. @pasture@pl.gamers.exposed and @graf@poa.st are open to receiving requests for accounts to move to the whitelist, as long as they are public figures, news organizations, brands, or other unique accounts that will add to the Fediverse experience. We will not generally approve bots (unless they are unique - we have enough of these on fedi itself) and only approve accounts where the owner has no reason to believe their Tweets aren’t being archived.

Do not complain to me about this site “stealing content.” Please read Twitter’s Terms of Service, specifically, Your Rights and Grant of Rights in the Content, and then send DMCA notices as prescribed here so we can have a laugh.

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Dangerman  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:22:29pm
Twitter’s radically reduced anti-propaganda team grappled on Sunday with a flood of nuisance content in China that researchers said was aimed at reducing the flow of news about stunning widespread protests against coronavirus restrictions,” the Washington Post reports.

“Numerous Chinese-language accounts, some dormant for months or years, came to life early Sunday and started spamming the service with links to escort services and other adult offerings alongside city names.l

“The result: For hours, anyone searching for posts from those cities and using the Chinese names for the locations would see pages and pages of useless tweets instead of information about the daring protests as they escalated to include calls for Communist Party leaders to resign.”

Everything will be fine unless something out of the ordinary happens

We’ll be fine as long as nothing bad happens

And something out of the ordinary always happens

So does somethi g bad

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:23:36pm

re: #71 Dopamine Fish

That definitely stinks.

I wish you all the best on this.

It sounds you and your lady have serious concerns regarding their judgement in this area and you(pl) may need to clearly define boundaries and enforce them.

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Dangerman  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:28:11pm

re: #71 Dopamine Fish

To be honest, they didn’t think it was a big deal, because they’re part of the COVID Twoofer cult, and they think, “Ah, it’s just the flu, plus, my kids and their kids are vaccinated, so they’ll be fine. We can have them over and not worry about it.” News flash, fuckfaces: Vaccines are effective, but not 100% so. And now my daughter is at risk for long-term health problems.

You don’t intentionally withhold that info.

You don’t get to unilaterally make those decisions for other people

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:28:23pm

This is a consequence of the rain over the last few days. The top mark is when the lake is considered full:

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:32:55pm
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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:33:12pm

re: #82 Belafon

Every time I see that name I add a Wylie to the middle.

Ray Wylie Hubbard - Fast Left Hand ft. The Cadillac Three

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:33:51pm

re: #82 Belafon

It needs to snow 500+ inches in the subalpine regions of Colorado and New Mexico every winter for many years to overcome our water deficit. It’s dire. The Colorado River has all this water allocated to people and it’s just not there. I fear violence over water up in the headwaters (where I live) in my lifetime.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:35:38pm
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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:35:50pm

re: #82 Belafon

I keep hearing about the drought. Mostly in relation to areas West of you.

Granted Texas is a huge state. But have the areas around you been dealing with the drought also?

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:39:01pm

re: #87 ckkatz

On this map, yellow is abnormally dry, ranging up to severe drought in dark red.
drought.gov

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:39:33pm

re: #87 ckkatz

This is the US drought map from the 22nd. See that white area in the north east portion of Texas? That’s where I am. The really dark red area down south? That’s Austin.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:41:12pm

So far we’re off to a good start this winter. There’s been fairly consistent snowstorms almost weekly. Nothing crazy, a few inches here, a couple inches there. And it’s been staying cold up high, so all the snow that’s fallen is staying put. Ski areas in Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah have seen the best coverage in November in many years. Fingers crossed this keeps up and it snows a lot this winter.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:42:09pm
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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:45:53pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 7:46:39pm
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:03:33pm

[That was supposed to go behind a private tag…]

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:04:24pm

re: #91 jaunte

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There was a woman the other day on Twitter - whose avatar made me think she’s trying to be Candace Owen’s replacement - who put up “Why does it seem that only the Fascists care about pedophiles?”

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:05:03pm

re: #92 jaunte

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What they can do with colorizing images is pretty amazing. //

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:20:38pm

She’s a linguist:

mobile.twitter. com/katiedimartin

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:24:23pm
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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:27:34pm

re: #88 jaunte

re: #89 Belafon

re: #90 teleskiguy

I guess the reason why I asked was curiosity about how it affects you.

We read about the issues in California. Systemic issues allocating water between urban areas, farmers, riverine life. Economic issues in allocating water between industries and types of farming. How non-irrigated areas suffer major wildfires and die-off. The lifestyle changes required by and the health affects brought on with the drought.

I was just wondering how it it affects the lives of those living in or near it.

From what I understand,

- Charlie is in an industry affected by it. But currently is little affected by it due to the current season snowfall.
- Anymouse gets water from a major river rather than the aquifer and is not involved in agriculture so is little affected.
- Belefon is little affected by it and is not in a drought affected area.
- Not sure how our other lgf lizards view it in personal rather than general global climate change perspectives.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:35:17pm

I was just thinking about the summer of 1984 when I was stationed at Ft Sill, Western Oklahoma. There was a major drought in the area and in the Texas Panhandle at the time. I remember reading about how the drought had shrunk most of the water sources in the Texas Panhandle. And that due to swimming in the shrinking water holes that there had been a record 4 cases of Naegleriasis over the summer.

So in this case, anyway, the drought had been a case of life or death for at least 4, likely, kids.

Wiki - Naegleriasis

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:35:53pm

re: #99 ckkatz

Oh, The Drought has affected my life. I was evacuated from my house last April for two days because of a wildfire, flames came within a half-mile from my house. Water scarcity is all that any thinking person thinks about around here.

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:38:18pm

I guess this has been building for years and I didn’t notice, but Madonna is unrecognizable from filler injections.

Madonna Shares Rare Photo w/ All 6 Kids After Thanksgiving

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:38:53pm

re: #99 ckkatz

Back in 2018, we were in such a drought that the lake was 4 feet below full; one section of the lake completely dried up. And Ray Hubbard has another reservoir, Lake Lavon, whose job is to keep Ray Hubbard at level. (Ray Hubbard is the primary water source for Dallas and East.) We had fire bans, and were restricted to lawn watering every other week for most of the year (eventually they told people to water once a week so the water pumps would get more use). We had random fires start. Farmers had to sell of livestock.

We go through drought to supersaturated waves. Most of the time, though, October is our wettest month, so we’re a little off schedule. It’s just really weird that we’re so wet while areas nearby are in drought.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:40:01pm

Crazy person of the day:

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:40:22pm

re: #99 ckkatz

I have a number of friends in drought areas in California, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Texas. They all have homes and livestock that are at risk of wildfires, and of loss of availability of forage. That means if they can find forage, it is likely of poor quality and is very expensive. So I am personally in a good place as far as drought goes, I am very concerned about what is occurring in those areas. We talk about it every week.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:43:40pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:45:07pm

The Colorado River Compact turned 100 years old very recently. It allocates water from the Colorado River to all the states in its drainage basin: Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California, and the Mexican states of Baja California and Sonora. You can read it here.

The Colorado River hasn’t reached the sea in decades. All this water is allocated and the water isn’t there and it’s getting worse. Pretty soon Glen Canyon Dam won’t be able to produce hydroelectric power.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:45:28pm

Thread of a woman who was able to be convinced that her ideas about vaccines were wrong:

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 8:54:11pm

re: #99 ckkatz

The drought conditions over the past ten years have killed most of the large oak trees
in the lower part of my property, which tends to collect water form the surrounding farms in a seasonal creek. We’re still on the eastern side of the ‘desert’ line moving across Texas, but it’s coming towards us from Austin.

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:00:05pm

re: #109 jaunte

Oak trees are my favorites. The loss of an oak tree just hurts my heart. They should be near permanent on our earth.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:06:27pm


We lost that one in the center to drought, then it was undermined in a flood.
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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:10:02pm

re: #111 jaunte

What a handsome tree! Its gnarled branches certainly said it had been around for a while. An “huorn” of a tree, as Tolkien would have said.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:10:27pm

re: #106 BeenHereAwhile

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A bunch of Cryptobros are going to be putting in money to support Putin, all under the guise of blockchain.

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Captain Ron  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:19:45pm
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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:24:56pm

Wait! You mean that they can’t just use the internet in the dark? Well, I guess that they will have to just watch tv then. :-/

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:27:23pm

re: #113 Belafon

A bunch of Cryptobros are going to be putting in money to support Putin, all under the guise of blockchain.

Certainly, Putin and the billionaire libertarians have the same goal, destroying the Western Countries financial system and replacing it with an opaque and unregulated financial system that they control.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:33:19pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:35:38pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Mrs. Fish is absolutely livid. Again, we were victimized by my family, and intentionally. This is just stupid at this point. If they want us to never visit them again, they’re doing a goddamn fantastic job.

Tonight we attended a “post-Thanksgiving” Thanksgiving dinner at a friend’s, 10 in total present. Among the guests was a cousin of the hostess who had left his wife and 2 children at home because they were all ill. So now we are waiting anxiously to see whether the illness turns out to be COVID or the flu — and whether we all will be ill within the next few days. The 3 of us (me, sister, BIL) have all had at least 4 shots and the flu vaccine. My sister, despite repeated exposures, has never had COVID. Hopefully the guest will turn out not to have been contagious.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:40:58pm

I live in the Northern Virginia ‘burbs of DC.

Virginia, with a long standing reputation as a swamp, does not yet lack for water. As the weather has warmed up a few degrees, the alligators are reportedly getting into the Great Dismal Swamp along the Virginia-North Carolina border. But that is almost 200 miles from here.

For us, probably the biggest global warming related thing we see are the refugees from other countries. There is a large class of folks who do the jobs like trash collection, construction, and lawn care.

Some of their children who immigrated above a certain age, often have difficulty integrating into the communities. There have been several local cases recently where vulnerable teenage kids seeking support systems, joined gangs and ended up being trafficked, murdered or sentenced to long prison terms for heinous crimes.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 27, 2022 • 9:46:32pm

re: #99 ckkatz

In Massachusetts, Metro Boston is fed by the Quabbin Reservoir, which is made up of the flooded remnants of four towns in central Massachusetts. Outside of the immediate Boston metro area—like Salem, where I am—there are a number of towns and groups of towns with their own reservoirs. Salem and Beverly maintain a system for use in the two cities. This system is fed by the Ipswich River.

Eastern Massachusetts was under an extreme drought for much of this year. Storms just dissipated, or moved north or south of us. Thunderstorms in particular are rare compared to past memory. We are forecast for average snow, about 50 inches. We’ll see.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:01:58pm

Apparently she has a following in Russia -

Sasha Grey on Being Caught in a Russian Propaganda War
The acclaimed ex-porn star turned Hollywood actress and author opens up about her eclectic career, President-elect Trump, and her Russian nightmare.

On the morning of February 18, 2015, Sasha Grey learned she had died.

*snip*

It was, by most accounts, a gruesome end. A petite Russian nurse, she had ventured straight into the heart of the battle between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian separatists. While tending to her wounded comrades, she was snatched up by the Ukrainians and taken to a bivouac, where she was beaten, raped, and decapitated with an ax.

The tragic tale spread like wildfire across VK (VKontakte), Russia’s answer to Facebook boasting close to 400 million users. She was hailed as a martyr—a symbol of Russian courage in the face of Ukrainian terror.

Only Sasha Grey, the extreme porn star turned Hollywood actress, is very much alive. “I was Russian fake news,” she tells me, laughing hysterically—or as Karl Marx once said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”

2017 Daily Beast Article

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:10:35pm

More on the plane crash in Montgomery County, Md from the WashPost:

A pilot and a passenger were rescued from a small plane that had crashed into power lines in Maryland after an hours-long ordeal that saw power cut to nearly 100,000 homes and businesses and plunged rescuers into a complex, hours-long effort to safely remove the people aboard.

Hours before the rescue, Montgomery County Public Schools canceled classes Monday, as did Montgomery County College. In addition, the crash in the Gaithersburg area curtailed operations on the Metro Red Line, and at least two hospitals, officials said.

The plane became entangled in high-voltage power lines north of Montgomery Village in Gaithersburg about 5:40 p.m., fire officials said. By 1 a.m. Monday, only about 700 people remained without power, Pepco said.

WashPost

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Cheechako  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:14:00pm

re: #120 Sherlock Hound

In Massachusetts, Metro Boston is fed by the Quabbin Reservoir, which is made up of the flooded remnants of four towns in central Massachusetts. Outside of the immediate Boston metro area—like Salem, where I am—there are a number of towns and groups of towns with their own reservoirs. Salem and Beverly maintain a system for use in the two cities. This system is fed by the Ipswich River.

Eastern Massachusetts was under an extreme drought for much of this year. Storms just dissipated, or moved north or south of us. Thunderstorms in particular are rare compared to past memory. We are forecast for average snow, about 50 inches. We’ll see.

When I grew up in Easton MA, I was told the town was located on top of an underground aquafer that was a at a much lesser depth than any of the surrounding cities and towns. Those neighboring cities and towns spent a lot of money trying to drill into and tap into it. None were successful. The town had really good water.

Of course that was 50 years ago when the Population was about 5,000. I don’t know how the town’s doing today with about 30,000 citizens.

The other unique situation was that the town did not have a city owned sewer system. Every building had to have their own septic tank/system. That let the Town require a minimum of 3/4 acre lot size to provide space for a septic system. With that size of a lot requirement almost all housing was mini-mansion sized homes. Made a hefty property tax base.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:21:59pm

Sounds like an interesting podcast series -

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sagehen  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:25:09pm

re: #114 Captain Ron

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ooh, “the likes of which we’ve never seen.”

That’s right up there with “many people are saying” and “big man, strong man, with tears in his eyes”. Also, “very bad for our country.”

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:26:14pm

Ooops… Looks like Dangerman already posted this, although without the pictures…
re: #79 Dangerman

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:35:06pm

There have been some great recipes posted here recently! I thank the generous lizards who shared their expertise. And, of course, I have saved them to try out.

And then there is the friend who sent me this :/

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:39:07pm
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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:43:00pm

re: #127 ckkatz

There have been some great recipes posted here recently! I thank the generous lizards who shared their expertise. And, of course, I have saved them to try out.

And then there is the friend who sent me this :/

And then there is New England’s Chow Mein Sandwich

atlasobscura.com
Oh there also is the St. Louis sandwich called the St. Paul which is an Egg Foo Yung patty between two pieces of white bread

kcur.org

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:45:46pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon

Ha!

Although, I am now hungering for a Primanti’s sandwich.

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:46:18pm

G’nite all, time for me to head to bed.

For the evening Dad joke, I leave you with this -

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Joe Bacon  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:49:43pm

re: #131 ckkatz

Now who else remembers this TV classic about two inept handymen?

Classic TV Theme: I’m Dickens, He’s Fenster

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 27, 2022 • 10:52:40pm

birbie for Monday!

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ckkatz  Nov 27, 2022 • 11:11:01pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

Years ago, a friend from the Upper Midwest mentioned helping hay a field on his Dad’s farm as a teenager, when they accidentally baled a badger into a bale.

He said they gathered around the bale where the apparently still living, but highly irritated badger was immobilized. And held a discussion of the form:
“Here’s some wirecutters so you can cut him loose.”
“Why don’t you cut him loose.”
“No, why don’t YOU cut him loose?”

Iirc, they put the poor badger down due public safety concerns.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 27, 2022 • 11:32:50pm

Does anyone here know whether the American Journal of Therapeutics is a respectable publication or if it is under the control of fringe medical practitioners?

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 28, 2022 • 12:08:47am
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Mattand  Nov 28, 2022 • 12:25:29am

re: #70 teleskiguy

That BB tweet is just… not funny at all, at all. It’s just mean and stupid. Like conservatives.

Yeah, that the crux of it. There’s no joke there. If they had written something like:

Steven King estate reveals he has passed and his Twitter account is now run by his ghost; keeps writing 1000+ page Tweets about a haunted Maine convenience store run by werewolves with keen grasp of pop culture

…I’d let them slide because at least it would have shown some effort. What I just wrote isn’t all the funny, but at least I fucking tried. Ad hominems are often the refuge of the lazy and creatively bankrupt.

Also, pop-culture aware werewolves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 1:41:27am

re: #88 jaunte

On this map, yellow is abnormally dry, ranging up to severe drought in dark red.
drought.gov

It’s sucking pretty bad here too.

drought.gov

The southern Panhandle is all in extreme drought (which explain all the prairie fires last year).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 1:57:09am

re: #101 teleskiguy

Oh, The Drought has affected my life. I was evacuated from my house last April for two days because of a wildfire, flames came within a half-mile from my house. Water scarcity is all that any thinking person thinks about around here.

The prairie fire that started in the Wildcat Hills in Banner County burned across that county and into mine. We were on standby with a go-bag to evacuate our house, but the fire was put out about eight miles away.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:12:27am

re: #120 Sherlock Hound

In Massachusetts, Metro Boston is fed by the Quabbin Reservoir, which is made up of the flooded remnants of four towns in central Massachusetts. Outside of the immediate Boston metro area—like Salem, where I am—there are a number of towns and groups of towns with their own reservoirs. Salem and Beverly maintain a system for use in the two cities. This system is fed by the Ipswich River.

Eastern Massachusetts was under an extreme drought for much of this year. Storms just dissipated, or moved north or south of us. Thunderstorms in particular are rare compared to past memory. We are forecast for average snow, about 50 inches. We’ll see.

Here, our town is fed by two wells. The North Platte River cuts into the Ogallala Aquifer such that the level of the river is the level of the aquifer. The two town wells are seventy and ninety feet deep.

The nearest water gauge for the river is upstream at the county seat. The river level is 4.21 feet (about average for the river and pretty much the same all year).

water.weather.gov

The next gauge downstream is in Lewellyn. Right now they have an ice dam and the river is rapidly rising there. If it doesn’t break up then the village or Garden County will need to figure out a way to break it up to prevent the village from flooding.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:13:20am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:15:19am

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In which Huxley speaks of “economic censorship”, and suggests that audio books (on albums in his day) would make a big difference.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:18:21am

re: #142 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He also champions the use of certain drugs for artists and most of for professors.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:31:52am

re: #124 ckkatz

Sounds like an interesting podcast series -

I’m listening now. Thanks. It is interesting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:57:04am

Episode two goes into the origins of right-wing radio, starting with a home-built station in West Virginia in 1935 by a fellow named Stewart Efferson. He was the founder of Salem Media.

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TarHellion  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:58:30am

How much is that little birbie in the window? Second guess made the third one fairly reasonable. Back into the salt mines today. Along with other stuff, have to work on Jeopardy clues for the office’s Christmas week festivities. Will once again don the Grinch outfit and serve as the host. Look out, Ken Jennings or Mayim Bialik!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:02:12am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Key Trump 2024 Rivals Silent After His White Supremacist Meeting

In 2016, all the other candidates were hesitant to criticize Trump because they wanted to be in a position to pick up his followers when he flamed out, which was expected by everyone, even the GOP.

But he did not because his position as the “anti-politician” and “absolute outsider” insulated him from gaffes that would have wrecked the campaign or even career of any other politician

and

he was already running such a cult of personality that a lot of his followers would not necessarily have migrated to any other of the “establishment” GOP

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:05:21am

re: #53 Dopamine Fish

I heard Mariah Carey TWICE this weekend alone.

Our UK family plays “Whamageddon” starting Dec 1. You are disqualified as soon as you hear Last Christmas (only the original, no covers) Last one to survive gets to wear the vintage “Choose Life” T-shirt at the Christmas gathering.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:10:22am

re: #104 Belafon

“The Roman Empire never existed!”

Hypercaust denialism!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:15:37am

re: #127 ckkatz

There have been some great recipes posted here recently! I thank the generous lizards who shared their expertise. And, of course, I have saved them to try out.

And then there is the friend who sent me this :/

I add a recipe from the Scottish in-laws for Sat-On Ham Sandwich:

Prepare one ham sandwich (white bread, cheap pressed ham, yellow mustard)

Wrap in tinfoil.

Place beneath buttocks on car seat and drive the equivalent distance from Glasgow to Inverness.

Pull over and enjoy at motorway layby or car park overlooking the sea through your windscreen wipers.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:25:52am

I tried putting 上海 (Shanghai) and 北京 (Beijing) into twitter’s search and indeed as reported both bring up nothing but spam—mostly for escorts—as China tries to limit what can be seen concerning large protests breaking out over zero covid lockdown practices. Fueled by worker protests at Foxconn’s iPhone factory and now a fire that killed at least 10 in Urumqi Xinjiang in a highrise building where lockdown made it impossible to escape or be rescued. Protesting is more common than many in the West think, but it’s almost always micro issues and not nationwide like over the past few days.

 

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:28:13am

OH MY GOD. What is with my brain this week.

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TarHellion  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:29:17am

re: #152 Dopamine Fish

The NSA is going to recruit you as a code breaker!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:29:40am

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

I tried putting 上海 (Shanghai) and 北京 (Beijing) into twitter’s search and indeed as reported both bring up nothing but spam—mostly for escorts—as China tries to limit what can be seen concerning large protests breaking out over zero covid lockdown practices. Fueled by worker protests at Foxconn’s iPhone factory and now a fire that killed at least 10 in Urumqi Xinjiang in a highrise building where lockdown made it impossible to escape or be rescued. Protesting is more common than many in the West think, but it’s almost always micro issues and not nationwide like over the past few days.

Didn’t Eblond Bust say he was going to crack down on bots and spam? Some of those accounts are posting over a hundred posts an hour.

On the other hand, if you’re looking for an escort in Shanghai, the Chinese government is here to help you. /s

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:37:26am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’s going to crack down on bots and spam - where it concerns him, which is to say, he’s going to remove trolls who pretend to be him and people who spread left-wing “lies” (that are actually truth, just inconvenient for him).

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:44:14am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Didn’t Eblond Bust say he was going to crack down on bots and spam? Some of those accounts are posting over a hundred posts an hour.

On the other hand, if you’re looking for an escort in Shanghai, the Chinese government is here to help you. /s

Workers are apparently sleeping inside the Tesla factory outside Shanghai so that they can obey lockdown and keep working. I wonder if Musk will make twitter comply with any censorship requested by Beijing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2022 • 3:52:06am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:00:16am

This raises a good point.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:11:23am

The IRS on Tuesday warned taxpayers about the new $600 threshold for receiving Form 1099-K for third-party payments.
The change applies to payments from third-party networks, such as Venmo or PayPal, for transactions such as part-time work, side jobs or selling goods.
“It’s going to be a new form for a lot of people,” said Adam Markowitz, vice president at Howard L Markowitz PA, CPA.

IRS warns taxpayers about new $600 threshold for third-party payment reporting (MSN, Wednesday)

The IRS on Tuesday shared tips for the upcoming tax season — including a reminder about the new $600 threshold for receiving Form 1099-K for third-party payments.

The change applies to payments from third-party networks, such as Venmo or PayPal, for transactions such as part-time work, side jobs or selling goods, according to the IRS.

Before 2022, the federal Form 1099-K reporting threshold was for taxpayers with more than 200 transactions worth an aggregate above $20,000. However, Congress slashed the limit as part of the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021, and a single transaction over $600 may now trigger the form.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:18:33am

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the IRS on that, if you use PayPal, Venmo, or other settlement systems for selling on-line (E-bay, Amazon, &c), or so-called gig work (AirBnB, Lyft, Uber, &c).

Form 1099-K includes the gross amount of all reportable payment transactions. You will receive a Form 1099-K from each payment settlement entity from which you received payments in settlement of reportable payment transactions. A reportable payment transaction is defined as a payment card transaction or a third-party network transaction.

Payment card transaction means any transaction in which a payment card, or any account number or other identifying data associated with a payment card, is accepted as payment.
Third party network transaction means any transaction that is settled through a third-party payment network, but only after the total amount of such transactions exceeds the minimum reporting thresholds.

The gross amount of a reportable payment does not include any adjustments for credits, cash equivalents, discount amounts, fees, refunded amounts, or any other amounts. The dollar amount of each transaction is determined on the date of the transaction.

NOTE: The minimum reporting thresholds apply only to payments settled through a third-party network; there is no threshold for payment card transactions.

(more)

If you use such services, you should probably read the whole page at the IRS, since the threshold is now $600 rather than $20,000.

You should receive Form 1099-K from each clearinghouse by January 31.

Understanding Your Form 1099-K (IRS)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:25:38am

LOL, a comment on Reddit’s r/Libertarian commenting on an article from Reason, which argues against energy sector subsidies.

So let’s not have the government run by people trying to make the most money.

How does no government intervention fix the problem?

Elon musk [sic] would just take your house and rape your family dog and you would cry for help and none would come.

reddit.com

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:32:59am
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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:35:39am
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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:36:28am

re: #163 Dangerman

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:36:41am

re: #164 Dangerman

They’re the same picture.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:37:13am

Mornin’ folks…hope your holiday weekend went well. And may the Dopefish family avoid getting Covid..that sucks.

Oh, and happy Cyber Monday - which apparently is all about shopping and not just masturbating while chatting with a stranger online anymore. Xmas ruins everything.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:37:46am

re: #164 Dangerman

Donald Trump repeatedly refused to disavow the outspoken antisemite and white supremacist Nick Fuentes after they spoke over dinner at his Mar-a-Lago resort, rejecting the advice from advisers over fears he might alienate a section of his base,” The Guardian reports.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:39:28am

re: #166 darthstar

Mornin’ folks…hope your holiday weekend went well. And may the Dopefish family avoid getting Covid..that sucks.

Oh, and happy Cyber Monday - which apparently is all about shopping and not just masturbating while chatting with a stranger online anymore. Xmas ruins everything.

Meh. I’m not too worried about it. We’ve all had our shots, so it’s more just the annoyance of having to keep a kid out of school, figuring out when she’s allowed to go back, could our son get sick, etc. Also feeling bad for anyone we interacted with on the drive back from fish country, because they were put at risk unknowingly.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:42:12am

Look in the comments, it’s mostly bots.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:45:43am

re: #166 darthstar

Mornin’ folks…hope your holiday weekend went well. And may the Dopefish family avoid getting Covid..that sucks.

Oh, and happy Cyber Monday - which apparently is all about shopping and not just masturbating while chatting with a stranger online anymore. Xmas ruins everything.

Yeah, thanks Jeffrey Toobin for ruining a good thing for us! ///

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:45:49am

Stop using “believe in” when you mean “accept reality”

You don’t “believe” in evolution. It’s science not religious dogma (sure it is for them..)

Same goes with things like election denial.

Stop asking if people believe in facts.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:46:08am

re: #165 Dopamine Fish

They’re the same picture.

Two different tweets

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:52:10am

They could just play Xmas music all the time and avoid the rush

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:53:35am

We finished planting our trees yesterday along the south side of our property: A white pine, a red maple, and two sugar maples.

The Audubon Society says we should water them as long as we aren’t in a freeze, then water them weekly once Spring thaw starts.

My wife thinks the white pine is cute, since it’s about four feet tall and filled with needles.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:54:07am

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

Workers are apparently sleeping inside the Tesla factory outside Shanghai so that they can obey lockdown and keep working. I wonder if Musk will make twitter comply with any censorship requested by Beijing.

You wonder? Really? I don’t wonder at all. I’m sure of it.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 4:54:27am

re: #171 Dangerman

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Stop using “believe in” when you mean “accept reality”

You don’t “believe” in evolution. It’s science not religious dogma (sure it is for them..)

Same goes with things like election denial.

Stop asking if people believe in facts.

The problem is that some people don’t believe in facts

They keep asking about it because they’re incredulous that people refuse to accept reality. In so doing, however, they promulgate a mindset that it’s okay to reject reality. If more media people were like, “Whaddya mean, ‘I don’t believe in climate change?’ That’s reality, are you rejecting reality?” that mindset would change.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:01:25am

re: #175 sagehen

You wonder? Really? I don’t wonder at all. I’m sure of it.

OTOH, he’s doing nothing about the bots and spam, OTOH, assholes like Posobiec are freely exploiting the protests to push an anti-Fauci faux “the Democrats are just like Xi’s tyrannical gov’t” line without interruption.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:02:03am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re watching Everything Everywhere All at Once tonight.
Absolute insanity and I love it.

OMG… it’s absolutely mesmerizing and Doctor Strange only wishes it could have done it nearly as well.

Michelle Yeoh is timeless and incredible.

Acting was amazing. Story was balls to the wall nuts. Visuals were captivating.

Yeah… it was good. And it needs another watch or 5.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:03:18am

re: #176 Dopamine Fish

The problem is that some people don’t believe in facts

They keep asking about it because they’re incredulous that people refuse to accept reality. In so doing, however, they promulgate a mindset that it’s okay to reject reality. If more media people were like, “Whaddya mean, ‘I don’t believe in climate change?’ That’s reality, are you rejecting reality?” that mindset would change.

part of the problem is linguistic. the word belief has two definitions

1 belief that - an assertion of generally accepted objective universal truth
2 belief in - an assertion of faith where faith is belief without proof. it is by definition subjective, and the standards of evidence - in any other but a personally acceptable sense of the word, do not apply

a fundamental point is that 1 is not 2

1 is often used by those that are simplistic, immature, and think they’ve fallen on some heretofore unrecognized universal truth. There still is never proof.

rejecting reality is a non provable assertion of faith trying desperately to be accepted as a universal truth

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:04:06am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:04:20am

re: #179 Dangerman

rejecting reality is a non provable assertion of faith trying desperately to be accepted as a universal truth

And yet, they accuse those of us who accept scientific reality as “having faith in science”, as if they can magically wish reality into becoming a religion if they just words hard enough.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:04:28am

re: #173 Dangerman

They could just play Xmas music all the time and avoid the rush

It’s been considered.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:07:52am

re: #181 Dopamine Fish

And yet, they accuse those of us who accept scientific reality as “having faith in science”, as if they can magically wish reality into becoming a religion if they just words hard enough.

bingo

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:08:08am

re: #182 darthstar

It’s been considered.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:11:34am

re: #162 darthstar

“We are witnessing the real-time destruction of one of the world’s most powerful communication systems.”

Remember when Jack said that Elmo was the person he’d most trust with Twitter? I think Elmo is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing because allowing the little people that kind of voice cannot and, in their eyes should not, be allowed to stand.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:16:40am

re: #167 Dangerman

Donald Trump repeatedly refused to disavow the outspoken antisemite and white supremacist Nick Fuentes after they spoke over dinner at his Mar-a-Lago resort, rejecting the advice from advisers over fears he might alienate a section of his base,” The Guardian reports.

A section? That is his base.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:18:52am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:20:46am

re: #181 Dopamine Fish

And yet, they accuse those of us who accept scientific reality as “having faith in science”, as if they can magically wish reality into becoming a religion if they just words hard enough.

See also the Christian apologetics term “scientism.” (The -ism implying it is a philosophy or ideology rather than a tool for ascertaining that which is true.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:22:19am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:25:43am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See also the Christian apologetics term “scientism.” (The -ism implying it is a philosophy or ideology rather than a tool for ascertaining that which is true.)

Yes, I was going to say, I’m sure you’re quite well aware of the popularity of science denial masquerading as “science is a religion” in evangelical Christianity. I’m not going to lie to you, I still have to deal with this daily; see, e.g., fishfolk’s rejection of COVID vaccines (“You can’t trust scientists, they follow a bad religion, we follow the REAL religion and White American Jesus tells us that COVID is just a flu”). It’s so fucking dumb. What makes it even worse, in that specific case, is that they DO trust CERTAIN KINDS of science and modern medicine; they’re just extremely selective about COVID specifically, and they fail to see any hint of irony or hypocrisy in this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:31:53am

re: #190 Dopamine Fish

Yes, I was going to say, I’m sure you’re quite well aware of the popularity of science denial masquerading as “science is a religion” in evangelical Christianity. I’m not going to lie to you, I still have to deal with this daily; see, e.g., fishfolk’s rejection of COVID vaccines (“You can’t trust scientists, they follow a bad religion, we follow the REAL religion and White American Jesus tells us that COVID is just a flu”). It’s so fucking dumb. What makes it even worse, in that specific case, is that they DO trust CERTAIN KINDS of science and modern medicine; they’re just extremely selective about COVID specifically, and they fail to see any hint of irony or hypocrisy in this.

They have been told to believe by the Republican Party and/or bad actors on the Internet.

Being out-of-range for television here unless you have a satellite dish, and almost no one with Internet service means my whole town is vaccinated. The anti-science propaganda did not reach my town. The radio stations here don’t seem to propagate that madness either, nor do the newspapers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:31:56am

re: #180 darthstar

I skip the MCU movies, or if I watch them I fast forward through half of them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:38:29am

I’m going to roll off to bed. I’ll catch y’all later.

(2:16)

“Goodnight” on Hammered Dulcimer

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Ming5000  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:48:46am

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

I tried putting 上海 (Shanghai) and 北京 (Beijing) into twitter’s search and indeed as reported both bring up nothing but spam—mostly for escorts—as China tries to limit what can be seen concerning large protests breaking out over zero covid lockdown practices. Fueled by worker protests at Foxconn’s iPhone factory and now a fire that killed at least 10 in Urumqi Xinjiang in a highrise building where lockdown made it impossible to escape or be rescued. Protesting is more common than many in the West think, but it’s almost always micro issues and not nationwide like over the past few days.

I just checked the Shanghai (上海) tweet thread and there are still spam comments being posted every 30 seconds. Twitter of old might have assigned someone to deal with this, at such an important point in Chinese history.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 5:54:14am

Mauna Loa is erupting for first time in 38 years. Webcam is catching the spectacle.

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:02:27am

I Scream

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:07:07am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:09:50am

So there’s a bit of a controversy brewing in the e-sports scene. A professional team is looking at picking up a roster of players from a team that played in a special tournament for LGBTQ and female players - basically, anyone who is not in the dominant demographic in the professional e-sports scene. Why is this a controversy, you ask? Not for the reasons you think; actually, most people support the hell out of these players, and some of the individuals involved are quite good. The problem is that picking up this group of totally random people who came together for one weekend and throwing them directly into the fire of top-level professional play is about THE WORST thing a team could do to them. There’s no team cohesion, they haven’t had any exposure to the game at the highest levels, they would be completely overwhelmed and professional teams are notorious for lacking the support structure to help these young kids cope. I’m all for giving disadvantaged people a leg up, but this is akin to signing a beer league softball team directly to Major League Baseball contracts. I hope they think twice about this, for the kids’ sake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:14:42am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our UK family plays “Whamageddon” starting Dec 1. You are disqualified as soon as you hear Last Christmas (only the original, no covers) Last one to survive gets to wear the vintage “Choose Life” T-shirt at the Christmas gathering.

As much as I like Paul Mccartney, “Wonderful Christmastime” can go die in a fire.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:17:04am

Interesting discussion here of the case against the Oathkeepers. The jury resumes deliberations today.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:19:56am

Just got off a video conference with a regular Chinese student of mine from Shanghai, and he’s noted that these protests in China have the central government genuinely spooked. He uses a VPN (he works in IT as a network security specialist) and he said that the authorities are doing their damnedest to disrupt communications in order to squelch the protests.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:21:01am

re: #180 darthstar

You know, some of us (me!) love the splody action scenes.

Just sayin’.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:29:19am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Just got off a video conference with a regular Chinese student of mine from Shanghai, and he’s noted that these protests in China have the central government genuinely spooked. He uses a VPN (he works in IT as a network security specialist) and he said that the authorities are doing their damnedest to disrupt communications in order to squelch the protests.

The Chinese decision to try to control Covid through oppressive lockdowns while they try to develop effective vaccines themselves instead of importing proven mRNA vaccines is biting them in the ass.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:30:36am

As I mentioned last week, wife and I took the youngest back to DC this past weekend. We stayed at a hotel north of DC Saturday night before driving back up home. The hotel we stayed at was meh, but cheap enough (their free breakfast was sparse).

When I saw this (below) it made me think of the saying “I think many warning labels have an interesting or funny backstory”. I took this pic in the bathroom of our room. Funny and strangely specific.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:33:13am

re: #194 Ming5000

I just checked the Shanghai (上海) tweet thread and there are still spam comments being posted every 30 seconds. Twitter of old might have assigned someone to deal with this, at such an important point in Chinese history.

same with Chengdu (成都). I guess if you are in China and want Chinese-language access to information about the major cities you get soft porn instead.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:34:02am

re: #204 Eventual Carrion

Someone had clothes they needed to hang up, probably while getting dressed, and the usual spaces wouldn’t work.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:35:21am

re: #190 Dopamine Fish

Yes, I was going to say, I’m sure you’re quite well aware of the popularity of science denial masquerading as “science is a religion” in evangelical Christianity. I’m not going to lie to you, I still have to deal with this daily; see, e.g., fishfolk’s rejection of COVID vaccines (“You can’t trust scientists, they follow a bad religion, we follow the REAL religion and White American Jesus tells us that COVID is just a flu”). It’s so fucking dumb. What makes it even worse, in that specific case, is that they DO trust CERTAIN KINDS of science and modern medicine; they’re just extremely selective about COVID specifically, and they fail to see any hint of irony or hypocrisy in this.

The biggest problem of the 21st century is that mass media has made it easy for tens of millions of Americans to live in an alternative reality in which every problem is actually a conspiracy by {{{Global Elites}}} (you know who) to destroy trooo American Christianity and impose a satanic world order. Naturally, the people who profit off of this power made Covid and the vaccines part of the conspiracy theory.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:36:24am

re: #200 No Malarkey!

Interesting discussion here of the case against the Oathkeepers. The jury resumes deliberations today.

I’m curious what leve l”a plan” makes? They planned to stop the certification. And, for a time, they did. What exactly is a plan? 1. Go in. 2. Fuck shit up. That’s a plan.

WTF? Lawhawk, what say you?

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:37:42am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:38:40am

I got a case of sticker shock. I noticed a drone on sale for $40. When I clicked on it to check the details I also checked the bottom of the page. I looked at some of the other prices and was shocked to see a drone going for over $4K. I went to Apple’s website and they have a drone for $600. I can only assume that one gets what one paid for. And one of these site had a warning that you have to get a license to fly one of these things. Then I went to the FCC and they act as though everyone must get a license to fly a drone. I will keep my money in my pocket and not buy one of these things.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:38:52am

re: #203 No Malarkey!

The Chinese decision to try to control Covid through oppressive lockdowns while they try to develop effective vaccines themselves instead of importing proven mRNA vaccines is biting them in the ass.

Yep. People’s patience is running out. And as my Chinese student said, it’s the young who are out there protesting in the streets. They’ve had enough and they want their normal lives back.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:40:26am

re: #207 No Malarkey!

I truly believe that the proliferation of “alternative media”, allowing people to easily craft an infobubble that feeds their confirmation bias, is the root of all our current day problems. This is not exclusively a right-wing problem, but they have leveraged it extensively, and embraced it as part of their messaging (“fake news”, etm.); which is why being divorced from reality is essentially mainstream among the Right.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:41:03am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

I got a case of sticker shock. I noticed a drone on sale for $40. When I clicked on it to check the details I also checked the bottom of the page. I looked at some of the other prices and was shocked to see a drone going for over $4K. I went to Apple’s website and they have a drone for $600. I can only assume that one gets what one paid for. And one of these site had a warning that you have to get a license to fly one of these things. Then I went to the FCC and they act as though everyone must get a license to fly a drone. I will keep my money in my pocket and not buy one of these things.

I think pricing gives you expanded ranges, ceiling of operations, and functionality. Once you get above a certain elevation, you’d probably run into FAA concerns.

We’ve gotten cheaper drones for our nephews, since it fuels their photo/video interests and because it gets them outdoors.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:41:44am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

I got a case of sticker shock. I noticed a drone on sale for $40. When I clicked on it to check the details I also checked the bottom of the page. I looked at some of the other prices and was shocked to see a drone going for over $4K. I went to Apple’s website and they have a drone for $600. I can only assume that one gets what one paid for. And one of these site had a warning that you have to get a license to fly one of these things. Then I went to the FCC and they act as though everyone must get a license to fly a drone. I will keep my money in my pocket and not buy one of these things.

There are various categories of drone. A $40 drone is probably one of the smaller lightweight drones; those do not need to be registered. There’s a weight class above which you must register them, and those are going to be the more expensive ones. The REALLY expensive ones are likely professional-grade video platforms, rather than recreational toys.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:44:45am

re: #122 ckkatz

More on the plane crash in Montgomery County, Md from the WashPost:

WashPost

Damn, Gaithersburg is where we spent the night on Saturday coming back from DC. Didn’t see anything about that until now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:44:47am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

It’s like buying a computer. You can get everything from a simple, barebones unit for the basics to the really fancy stuff with all the bells and whistles.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:45:12am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:46:03am

re: #213 lawhawk

I think pricing gives you expanded ranges, ceiling of operations, and functionality. Once you get above a certain elevation, you’d probably run into FAA concerns.

We’ve gotten cheaper drones for our nephews, since it fuels their photo/video interests and because it gets them outdoors.

As far as I can remember from back when I was more of a drone enthusiast, paying more gets you more weight capacity (larger batteries/better cameras), more powerful motors (range/height and speed), as well as:

* Self-flying capabilities (return to home, even GPS guidance)
* Integrated video feed (my cheapo drone can record, but can’t broadcast; more expensive drones can stream to a phone)
* Cameras on a gimbal for stable videos
* More durable components

Etc.

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:47:45am

re: #209 DodgerFan1988

And Fred Guttenberg will be banned from Twitter in 3… 2… 1…

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:47:54am

The far right is losing. That’s why America has never been so dangerous. | Will Bunch (inquirer.com) 7

It’s clear that America is having a moment right now, and a deeply troubling one at that. Never in my lifetime — and I watched the tumultuous 1960s, albeit through the eyes of a child 1 — has the hate speech been so open and so over the top, nor has the threat of political bloodshed felt so palpable. Yet it’s important we understand what is really happening … and why it’s happening now

The antisemitism, the homophobia, the violence … this isn’t the American right flexing its muscles out of strength. Quite the opposite. The forces of 400 years of white supremacy culture are like a wounded bear right now — lashing out, and extremely dangerous because its proponents know they are a seriously endangered species.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:51:41am

re: #217 darthstar

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 6:58:23am

Regarding drone registration, drones that weigh less than 250 grams (about half a pound) are exempt from being registered with the FAA. Drones between 250 grams and 25 kg (55 lbs) are required to be registered, but can be flown without the pilot being FAA-certified provided they follow the rules specified here: faa.gov

The one thing that bothers me about this is that they require you to take a certification test to fly heavy drones. That feels so wrong. I’d understand it, if you intended on flying drones into potentially controlled airspace, but if you’re flying below 400’ and in direct line-of-sight, I don’t get why you have to interact with the FAA at all, aside from registering the craft so that any airplane incidents can be properly traced.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:02:56am

The Chinese character there is pronounced “de” so you can get “free (de) man” out of the Friedmann equation (full disclosure: i had to take 2 years of modern and 1 of classical Chinese in grad school, but can’t read with any fluency, and…I have no idea what the Friedmann equation is). Also, just reading some Japanese tweets on the matter, one guy who claims to be near the campuses in Beijing says the protests were almost entirely started by young female students and only later joined by male students. Can’t confirm, but would be a fascinating fact if true.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:03:43am

re: #222 Dopamine Fish

Regarding drone registration, drones that weigh less than 250 grams (about half a pound) are exempt from being registered with the FAA. Drones between 250 grams and 25 kg (55 lbs) are required to be registered, but can be flown without the pilot being FAA-certified provided they follow the rules specified here: faa.gov

The one thing that bothers me about this is that they require you to take a certification test to fly heavy drones. That feels so wrong. I’d understand it, if you intended on flying drones into potentially controlled airspace, but if you’re flying below 400’ and in direct line-of-sight, I don’t get why you have to interact with the FAA at all, aside from registering the craft so that any airplane incidents can be properly traced.

How many 54.9 pound drones could Walmart rig together to fly a new television to your house?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:04:47am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:05:54am

re: #223 Barefoot Grin

The Chinese character there is pronounced “de” so you can get “free (de) man” out of the Friedmann equation (full disclosure: i had to take 2 years of modern and 1 of classical Chinese in grad school, but can’t read with any fluency, and…I have no idea what the Friedmann equation is). Also, just reading some Japanese tweets on the matter, one guy who claims to be near the campuses in Beijing says the protests were almost entirely started by young female students and only later joined by male students. Can’t confirm, but would be a fascinating fact if true.

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So the explanation is in some of the comments: the equation has to do with the universe expanding, thus has the layered meaning of “openness.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:12:15am

re: #130 ckkatz

Ha!

Although, I am now hungering for a Primanti’s sandwich.

One advantage of moving back across the state was that I can easily get those again.

:)

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:15:52am

So the Thiel and Candace Owens-backed Fraud bank does what it was always intended to do- collapse in a flaming rubbish pile of avarice and deception.

finance.yahoo.com

Hoodwinking entitled grievance-filled lunatics is so easy for these right wing hucksters.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:18:00am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:18:20am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We finished planting our trees yesterday along the south side of our property: A white pine, a red maple, and two sugar maples.

The Audubon Society says we should water them as long as we aren’t in a freeze, then water them weekly once Spring thaw starts.

My wife thinks the white pine is cute, since it’s about four feet tall and filled with needles.

Did she nickname it “Karen”?

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SerialUpDinger  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:18:44am

re: #110 retired cynic

Valley Oak - Roots Reaching Into the Sky

From my neck of the woods. Sorry about the banding in the sky. Weird compression on upload.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:19:34am

That’ll work:

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:19:50am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

That pistol is actually the phone on the nightstand.

We can wish can’t we?

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:19:54am

re: #222 Dopamine Fish

Regarding drone registration, drones that weigh less than 250 grams (about half a pound) are exempt from being registered with the FAA. Drones between 250 grams and 25 kg (55 lbs) are required to be registered, but can be flown without the pilot being FAA-certified provided they follow the rules specified here: faa.gov

The one thing that bothers me about this is that they require you to take a certification test to fly heavy drones. That feels so wrong. I’d understand it, if you intended on flying drones into potentially controlled airspace, but if you’re flying below 400’ and in direct line-of-sight, I don’t get why you have to interact with the FAA at all, aside from registering the craft so that any airplane incidents can be properly traced.

You don’t have to be in controlled airspace to kill someone with a heavy drone. These things are dangerous.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:20:03am

Elderly Americans are dying from not getting the bivalent booster.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:21:54am
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:23:34am

re: #232 Belafon

It’s the funniest right wing mindset- their overwhelming entitlement extends so far they believe they have a right to hang out with you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:24:20am

re: #235 No Malarkey!

Elderly Americans are dying from not getting the bivalent booster.

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I wonder what percentage of the elderly who are dying are conservatives?

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:25:04am

Say gang!

Who poured $20 million into the coup attempt?

Why it was none other than…Dick Uihlein!

rawstory.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:26:14am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

I got a case of sticker shock. I noticed a drone on sale for $40. When I clicked on it to check the details I also checked the bottom of the page. I looked at some of the other prices and was shocked to see a drone going for over $4K. I went to Apple’s website and they have a drone for $600. I can only assume that one gets what one paid for. And one of these site had a warning that you have to get a license to fly one of these things. Then I went to the FCC and they act as though everyone must get a license to fly a drone. I will keep my money in my pocket and not buy one of these things.

Apparently there is training/certification involved to fly drones on official government business. My niece got certified to fly three sizes of drones since she works for the USGS. Her father and I kid her about learning to fly Reapers* so that she can go after egregious attempts at coastal shore modification.

* - She can fly what are essentially pretty small models. None bigger than about 3’ across. Which is still pretty useful for taking pictures of things from a few hundred feet up.

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:28:19am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ol’ Elon is staring into the Howard Hughes lifestyle void and going, “Yeah, this feels right.”

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mmmirele  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:28:58am

According to the article, the general understanding is the particular border crossing in question is “locals only” but the men were there to buy a specific priduct that had kosher supervision. However, they got harassed by local CBP and accused of being smugglers.

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to hurl my phone at the wall.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:29:01am

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder what percentage of the elderly who are dying are conservatives?

Disproportionately GOP.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:29:07am

I bought one of those $40 drones last spring and then returned it before using it after I read the instructions. Nearly useless functionality.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:29:14am

re: #212 Dopamine Fish

I truly believe that the proliferation of “alternative media”, allowing people to easily craft an infobubble that feeds their confirmation bias, is the root of all our current day problems. This is not exclusively a right-wing problem, but they have leveraged it extensively, and embraced it as part of their messaging (“fake news”, etm.); which is why being divorced from reality is essentially mainstream among the Right.

The bubble has always been there if people wanted it. A town might have two newspapers and they editorialized differently. The local TV stations editorialized and chose their non-network programming differently. You could chose which church you went to.

I think the surprise is that the internet and such opened the environment up. Much broader than just local news and a smattering of national and international stuff. And the bubbles expanded with it. And survived and proliferated.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:34:06am

re: #222 Dopamine Fish

Regarding drone registration, drones that weigh less than 250 grams (about half a pound) are exempt from being registered with the FAA. Drones between 250 grams and 25 kg (55 lbs) are required to be registered, but can be flown without the pilot being FAA-certified provided they follow the rules specified here: faa.gov

The one thing that bothers me about this is that they require you to take a certification test to fly heavy drones. That feels so wrong. I’d understand it, if you intended on flying drones into potentially controlled airspace, but if you’re flying below 400’ and in direct line-of-sight, I don’t get why you have to interact with the FAA at all, aside from registering the craft so that any airplane incidents can be properly traced.

I’d think it could be to get people identified if they try to payload their drones for bad purposes. I mean, I’m not talking warhead drones but if you have one that has the capacity to carry stuff, that’s kinda scary (since so many people these days are bugnuts insane).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:35:36am

re: #242 mmmirele

According to the article, the general understanding is the particular border crossing in question is “locals only” but the men were there to buy a specific priduct that had kosher supervision. However, they got harassed by local CBP and accused of being smugglers.

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to hurl my phone at the wall.

You wonder if CBP knows who their complete nutjob employees are and thus sends them to the more obscure border crossings in order to get them out of the way. (Though I guess firing them would be a solution as well. Or the obscure location might be an attempt at boring them into quitting.)

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:35:53am

re: #241 Mattand

Ol’ Elon is staring into the Howard Hughes lifestyle void and going, “Yeah, this feels right.”

Watch out for the milk bottles and Kleenex boxes…and the obsession with Baskin-Robbins Banana Nut Ice Cream!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:35:58am

re: #207 No Malarkey!

The biggest problem of the 21st century is that mass media has made it easy for tens of millions of Americans to live in an alternative reality in which every problem is actually a conspiracy by {{{Global Elies}}} (you know who) to destroy trooo American Christianity and impose a satanic world order. Naturally, the people who profit off of this power made Covid and the vaccines part of the conspiracy theory.

All those stories about ancient Aliens or whatever simply overlook the fact that there was no Science back then: namely, the systematic study and dissemination of knowledge.

We nowadays take it for granted that new developments and discoveries will be shared and expanded upon. But that is what Science has come to give us, and those who dismiss it are truly ignorant of what it has done and does for humanity.

Back when knowledge was power, it was hoarded and monitored carefully, and when those gatekeepers died, knowledge was simply lost & gone forever. It did not take aliens or time travelers or divine miracles to come up with a lot of what is recorded in myth, legend and religious scripture.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:36:22am

re: #242 mmmirele

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According to the article, the general understanding is the particular border crossing in question is “locals only” but the men were there to buy a specific priduct that had kosher supervision. However, they got harassed by local CBP and accused of being smugglers.

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to hurl my phone at the wall.

This reminds me of the time we went to Toronto for Passover. My son asked us to bring a case of wine for the seder. Like good neighbors, we declared it at the Sarnia border crossing and for our honesty paid a duty of $125.

A year later the duty free store in Port Huron started selling kosher wine for the first time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:36:23am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

What made me cry was Fred Guttenburg’s rained about his daughter. That made me cry.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:37:13am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:37:58am

re: #235 No Malarkey!

Elderly Americans are dying from not getting the bivalent booster.

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:38:02am

re: #220 Joe Bacon

The antisemitism, the homophobia, the violence … this isn’t the American right flexing its muscles out of strength. Quite the opposite. The forces of 400 years of white supremacy culture are like a wounded bear right now — lashing out, and extremely dangerous because its proponents know they are a seriously endangered species.

They have already left their mark on the SCOTUS, one that will be with us for decades…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:39:00am

re: #232 Belafon

That’ll work:

That didn’t just make me LOL, I literally cackled while I was LingOL. OMG. THAT’S HYSTERICAL!!

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:40:15am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

Well, better not get vaccinated then, they don’t work.

*spit*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:41:08am
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Mattand  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:42:01am

re: #248 Joe Bacon

Watch out for the milk bottles and Kleenex boxes…and the obsession with Baskin-Robbins Banana Nut Ice Cream!

All of his personal assistants are now named “Melvin”.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:42:04am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

What level of vaccination were they at? The original vaccines aren’t very effective against the new strains.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:42:34am

Please do. Would love to have the 1966 Joker music playing when he does that!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:42:57am

re: #252 Belafon

Invest in fresh air!

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:43:41am

re: #260 Joe Bacon

Clown show atmosphere intensifies.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:43:45am

re: #252 Belafon

People already pay for bottled water, even though tap water in most of the US is safe and regulated.

But in a scarcity situation, like with droughts and extended water depletion situations (such as aquifers getting tapped out b/c of droughts), paying for water to be imported in is already happening too.

Thing is that most water is not consumed by individuals, but by businesses and agriculture, and they often pay far less than what they should (especially out west, where water pricing is a mess).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:43:58am

re: #260 Joe Bacon

A kilt is considered formal dress anywhere in Scotland.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:45:34am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Terry Gross would appreciate the funds.
npr.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:46:41am
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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:46:56am

Texas never disappoints.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:48:41am

Mauna Loa eruption, pictures, videos, nature in all its terror and beauty.
dailymail.co.uk

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:50:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:53:11am

re: #269 darthstar

well, he does have his quotes from Clerks down pat (the discussion about the contractors on the second Death Star)

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Ming5000  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:54:33am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

same with Chengdu (成都). I guess if you are in China and want Chinese-language access to information about the major cities you get soft porn instead.

I clicked on a few of the Twtter accounts posting and 2 of 3 were posting every two minutes. I assume this has been going on for days. Should be easy for Musky to detect these spam accounts, if he wanted to.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:55:04am

Everyone relax. MIT Swarm robots that build bigger robots are on the way.

news.mit.edu

No need to worry.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:56:00am

re: #195 lawhawk

Mauna Loa is erupting for first time in 38 years. Webcam is catching the spectacle.

Folks are posting pics from this side of the island as the glow is visible. Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:56:54am
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:57:54am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like SGT Shultz’s younger, much dimmer brother.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:59:13am

re: #275 Florida Panhandler

Looks like SGT Shultz’s younger, much dimmer brother.

The one so stupid he doesn’t even know that he knows nothing?

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 7:59:22am

re: #275 Florida Panhandler

Looks like SGT Shultz’s younger, much dimmer brother.

So, Sgt. Shitz. Or maybe that’s Sgt. Schvitz.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:00:50am

re: #275 Florida Panhandler

Looks like SGT Shultz’s younger, much dimmer brother.

I thought he exploded over Japan about 80 years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:01:15am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:01:28am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

That has to be a children’s sized hard hat, or he has a second head growing out of the back of his neck.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:03:10am

re: #280 Shropshire Slasher

That has to be a children’s sized hard hat, or he has a second head growing out of the back of his neck.

More likely the only size that was in the discount store since the man is too cheap to actually pay for a hard hat that would fit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:07:13am

last night:

this morning:

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:09:07am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Remember when Jack said that Elmo was the person he’d most trust with Twitter? I think Elmo is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing because allowing the little people that kind of voice cannot and, in their eyes should not, be allowed to stand.

It’s not the little people — because the little people who are racist, fascist, and anti-Semites are having a field day with the new Twitter. Their words are being amplified. It’s those who support a diverse welcoming society and democracy and are opposed to authoritarianism who are being targeted — regardless of whether they are little or big.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:12:53am

re: #272 Florida Panhandler

Everyone relax. MIT Swarm robots that build bigger robots are on the way.

news.mit.edu

No need to worry.

Personally, the only reason I think sentient machines will turn against us is if people treat them like some do women, minorities, gays, etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:13:48am

re: #284 Belafon

Personally, the only reason I think sentient machines will turn against us is if people treat them like some do women, minorities, gays, etc.

So what you’re saying is there’s a good chance we’re fucked?

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lizardofid  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:14:31am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

Does the fact that 68 % of the population is vaccinated account for that? Sincere question, I don’t know.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:15:27am

I have accounts on Mastodon and Counter.Social. I won’t be on Post.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:16:05am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

So what you’re saying is there’s a good chance we’re fucked?

we build them to be smarter than we are. that will be the end of it

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:17:03am

[duplicated]

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:19:15am

re: #286 lizardofid

As more people get vaccinated, the percentage of people who are unvaccinated and die appears to be a smaller number (because the population that is unvaccinated has shrunk), but that’s not nearly as meaningful as the stat that if you get covid, you’re far more likely to die if you are unvaccinated or undervaccinated (not sufficiently boosted).

Percentage wise, you’re most likely to die if you’re unvaccinated. You are far less likely to die if you are vaccinated. It’s a numbers game, and people will play with the stats without bothering to understand the underlying principles.

Elderly un- or under-vaccinated are most likely to die from covid. If you’re a GOPer, that contributes to being un- or under-vaccinated.

See also, Simpson’s Paradox.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:21:27am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cylons… and I’m here for it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:23:59am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

That’s true but very misleading. If you look at the actual numbers over the recent months, the unvaccinated have 5+ times the probability of dying as the vaccinated. Most deaths are among those 50+ — and over 85% in that age range are vaccinated. So 42% of the deaths are among the less than 15% who are not vaccinated.

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lizardofid  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:26:00am

re: #290 lawhawk

Got it, thanks. I had just seen the fact that “58% of the people dying were vaccinated..”, and it occurred to me that if 100% of the population was vaccinated, a 100% of deaths would be. Although total deaths would be lower, the percentage would increase along with vaccinations.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:28:39am

re: #272 Florida Panhandler

Everyone relax. MIT Swarm robots that build bigger robots are on the way.

Add solar power and these will be the tools that build orbital habitats.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:28:42am

re: #271 Ming5000

I clicked on a few of the Twtter accounts posting and 2 of 3 were posting every two minutes. I assume this has been going on for days. Should be easy for Musky to detect these spam accounts, if he wanted to.

No it isn’t.. He’s not a programmer and he’s gotten rid of most of his staff. So who’s going to be able to check that for him? The Russian programmers that Putin has lent him free of charge? The Chinese programmers at his Tesla factory?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:34:45am

3/6 on the Wordle thingy

Wordle 527 3/6

⬜⬜🟨🟩⬜
⬜🟩🟨🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:36:23am

I was going to ask if Twitter changed its licensing to be used in China, but Twitter is banned in China, with ways around, of course.

au.finance.yahoo.com

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:49:23am

re: #204 Eventual Carrion

As I mentioned last week, wife and I took the youngest back to DC this past weekend. We stayed at a hotel north of DC Saturday night before driving back up home. The hotel we stayed at was meh, but cheap enough (their free breakfast was sparse).

When I saw this (below) it made me think of the saying “I think many warning labels have an interesting or funny backstory”. I took this pic in the bathroom of our room. Funny and strangely specific.

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Probably like I’ve heard of before: Someone used it as a hook to hang a suit or dress from and the weight was just enough that in the middle of the night the sprinkler was triggered… I was, thankfully, not present when it happened. Preventing wrinkles… ;)

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:50:21am

re: #296 Eventual Carrion

3/6 on the Wordle thingy

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Ditto. Hail Mary for the third word and it worked out.

SUcxTEtWemFESG5uc0hEUmZHQktVVnlIUjlCTEFGdGkwck9iaTNOMFo5UFZzZEFvNXBwNmZzOTZ0ZnRsQXhxZFRiY3AyQzA2R2tsNlg3V3FJUmdpS0YxV1VCdmFHbVR4RnN6STBGRFArdTlpTG5ZNlRuZlczb0xaUUQ0aEhsWWg6Oi2AKT9TLjdUrGcXEfZEVW4=

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:51:05am

re: #194 Ming5000

I just checked the Shanghai (上海) tweet thread and there are still spam comments being posted every 30 seconds. Twitter of old might have assigned someone to deal with this, at such an important point in Chinese history.

Twitter of old wasn’t owned by a fascist concerned about the threat of the protests spreading to the workers at his auto factory.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:51:54am

Better not tip toe thru those tulips!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:57:39am

re: #301 Joe Bacon

Better not tip toe thru those tulips!

I do admit I have a mild bit of curiosity towards the demographics of those who have lost their shirt to the crypto grift.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:58:10am
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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:59:29am

re: #302 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I do admit I have a mild bit of curiosity towards the demographics of those who have lost their shirt to the crypto grift.

White dudebros who thought they were getting rich, and black people who thought they had found an alternative to the banks that reject them.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 8:59:57am

Going through older photos…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:06:36am

Seriously pulled this one out of my ass.
Wordle 527 3/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟨🟩⬛⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:07:18am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:11:29am

re: #307 The Pie Overlord!

He’s a child who needs affirmation. He doesn’t care where it comes from, and that is the danger.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:13:27am

re: #308 Colère Tueur de Lapin

He’s a child who needs affirmation. He doesn’t care where it comes from, and that is the danger.

in that, he and spy45 are the same
money doesn’t buy happiness

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:14:17am

re: #294 jaunte

Add solar power and these will be the tools that build orbital habitats.

I’m thinking building bases on the moon and Mars.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:14:27am

he’s really doing it!!

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell wants more power within the Republican Party: he’s officially running to chair the Republican National Committee, Insider reports.

Said Lindell: “With all my due diligence and in prayer, I am 100% running for RNC chairman against Ronna McDaniel. It’s going to change real fast. We’re going to get our country right, really quick.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:14:39am

re: #309 Dangerman

in that, he and spy45 are the same
money doesn’t buy happiness

Not if you’re a narcissist, it doesn’t, but money can make me happy and secure.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:16:21am

re: #311 Dangerman

Oh, please let that smarmy motherfucker win. He and the GOP deserve each other.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:16:43am

re: #311 Dangerman

He says he’s doing it.

Saying he’s doing it and actually doing it are two different things.

Winning is still another.

He’s got zero experience managing an organization that isn’t a cult of personality to him. He has zero political skills or acumen. He’s a grifter, which isn’t enough, even for the GOP. How much money has he raised and supported candidates? That’s a better function of what the RNC Chair does.

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lizardofid  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:16:45am

re: #311 Dangerman

he’s really doing it!!

[Insert popcorn eating meme here]

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:17:33am

re: #314 lawhawk

He says he’s doing it.

Saying he’s doing it and actually doing it are two different things.

Mike Lindell is the kind of guy who, when he says the sky is blue, you step outside to check.

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Wile E. Wonka  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:20:47am

re: #298 William Lewis

Probably like I’ve heard of before: Someone used it as a hook to hang a suit or dress from and the weight was just enough that in the middle of the night the sprinkler was triggered… I was, thankfully, not present when it happened. Preventing wrinkles… ;)

The Washington DC area, you say? Hahahaha!
Ask anybody who regularly attends SF conventions about “Disclave 1997” and sit down for a fun story, complete with filks (parody songs) on the subject.

(TL;dr someone at the convention decided to use the sprinkler head in their room as an attachment point for some suspension bondage at around 5am. Flooded a good chunk of the hotel, and although the investigation ruled that the con leadership wasn’t responsible, Disclave was permanently uninvited from all DC-area hotels thereafter.)

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:21:27am
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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:21:42am

re: #312 Crush White Nationalism

Not if you’re a narcissist, it doesn’t, but money can make me happy and secure.

a key to becoming successfully rich (not born into it) is to retain the values you had before the money came along

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:22:01am

re: #316 Dopamine Fish

Mike Lindell is the kind of guy who, when he says the sky is blue, you step outside to check.

It will be curious what happens if the nuts literally start to take over the internal machinery of the GQP. At that point the “establishment” will be dealing with the monster wrecking the lab itself. And I am sure the donors will appreciate how much money will immediately leak into the various grifts rather than actual campaign funding.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:22:45am

re: #320 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It will be curious what happens if the nuts literally start to take over the internal machinery of the GQP. At that point the “establishment” will be dealing with the monster wrecking the lab itself. And I am sure the donors will appreciate how much money will immediately leak into the various grifts rather than actual campaign funding.

Haven’t donations already slowed to a crawl because Trump is grifting so much of it personally into his campaign coffers?

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:23:14am

re: #314 lawhawk

He says he’s doing it.

Saying he’s doing it and actually doing it are two different things.

Winning is still another.

He’s got zero experience managing an organization that isn’t a cult of personality to him. He has zero political skills or acumen. He’s a grifter, which isn’t enough, even for the GOP. How much money has he raised and supported candidates? That’s a better function of what the RNC Chair does.

oh i dont care about any of that ;-)

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:23:49am

re: #320 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It will be curious what happens if the nuts literally start to take over the internal machinery of the GQP. At that point the “establishment” will be dealing with the monster wrecking the lab itself. And I am sure the donors will appreciate how much money will immediately leak into the various grifts rather than actual campaign funding.

GOP and corporate allies going through ‘a messy breakup’ as Republicans plan pressure campaign

The D-I-V-O-R-C-E becomes official on 1/3/23…

rawstory.com

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:25:11am

Amsterdam was meh.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:26:06am

re: #320 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It will be curious what happens if the nuts literally start to take over the internal machinery of the GQP. At that point the “establishment” will be dealing with the monster wrecking the lab itself. And I am sure the donors will appreciate how much money will immediately leak into the various grifts rather than actual campaign funding.

down in one

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:31:23am

What the actual fucking hell? Not certifying the election is bad enough, but VOTING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE “I just want to see what happens”?!?!?!?

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:31:41am

He’s not well.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:32:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:33:04am

re: #310 Belafon

I’m thinking building bases on the moon and Mars.

“We’re rapidly making Earth uninhabitable so it’s essential that we prepare to fly to uninhabitable refuges.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:39:36am

re: #329 Barefoot Grin

“We’re rapidly making Earth uninhabitable so it’s essential that we prepare to fly to uninhabitable refuges.”

That preparation develops the technologies that will go into our domed cities on Earth once we destroy the environment we take for granted.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:40:44am

re: #327 Nyet

“Psyops.” The word of choice for unhinged conspiracy theorists who have come unglued from reality. And this is the world’s richest man, in sole possession of one of the world’s most popular information dissemination tools.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:52:27am

Outside the truck stop near my house:

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:53:37am

re: #332 Belafon

Outside the truck stop near my house:

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I have so many questions.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:53:47am

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:53:49am

re: #231 SerialUpDinger

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From my neck of the woods. Sorry about the banding in the sky. Weird compression on upload.

Love this tree! Thank you!

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:54:56am

re: #332 Belafon

That’ll buff out.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:54:57am

I’m sorry but if you are doing production support then you should not be writing code.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:55:05am

re: #332 Belafon

What are the odds that there was an unsecured bunch of pallets in an overloaded trailer?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:55:32am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

“all managers are expected to write a meaningful amount of software themselves.” Thus proving once and for all that Musk has absolutely zero idea how to manage a software company. You. Do. Not. Hire. Engineers. To. Manage. Engineers. It just doesn’t work. Great engineers make TERRIBLE managers, and great managers make TERRIBLE engineers.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:57:54am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

Calvary captains leading the charge were often the first to die, so there’s that.

Mush doesn’t have a clue how to organize a business or IT department, and has instead sought to micromanage it into oblivion.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:59:32am

re: #340 lawhawk

Calvary captains leading the charge were often the first to die, so there’s that.

Mush doesn’t have a clue how to organize a business or IT department, and has instead sought to micromanage it into oblivion.

“No more layoffs.”

Immediately fires a bunch of engineers the day before Thanksgiving.

Immediately fires a bunch more employees immediately after Thanksgiving.

It’s almost like we can’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

So when does the centi-billionaire playboy finally get bored with his little blue toy and let us have it back?

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:59:36am

re: #337 The Pie Overlord!

I’m sorry but if you are doing production support then you should not be writing code.

I’ve been in the same business since 1987. The last thing I should be doing is pulling cable and using hand tools though I can still do it. I sold most of mine off because I kept using them and not doing the other stuff (design, client stuff, programming). I allow myself one small tool bag that doesn’t include a cordless drill.

Tony Snark is an idiot.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:59:39am

re: #336 BigPapa

That’ll buff out.

your house has a dent in it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 9:59:56am
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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:00:32am

re: #339 Dopamine Fish

“all managers are expected to write a meaningful amount of software themselves.” Thus proving once and for all that Musk has absolutely zero idea how to manage a software company. You. Do. Not. Hire. Engineers. To. Manage. Engineers. It just doesn’t work. Great engineers make TERRIBLE managers, and great managers make TERRIBLE engineers.

The comparisons with the Mango Moron are accurate - both are utterly incompetent. He’s destroying Twitter & Tesla and SpaceX survives, for now, because they figured out how to prevent him from having real impact on the company.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:02:51am

re: #341 Dopamine Fish

“No more layoffs.”

Immediately fires a bunch of engineers the day before Thanksgiving.

Immediately fires a bunch more employees immediately after Thanksgiving.

It’s almost like we can’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

So when does the centi-billionaire playboy finally get bored with his little blue toy and let us have it back?

He won’t. It’s too dangerous to the billionaire class to allow the peons to have a real communications tool. Look at his actions regarding Twitter and the Chinese protests for probably the most accurate picture of him.

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:05:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:05:34am
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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:05:43am

re: #339 Dopamine Fish

“all managers are expected to write a meaningful amount of software themselves.” Thus proving once and for all that Musk has absolutely zero idea how to manage a software company. You. Do. Not. Hire. Engineers. To. Manage. Engineers. It just doesn’t work. Great engineers make TERRIBLE managers, and great managers make TERRIBLE engineers.

the function is to manage. that’s why they call them managers // (1/2)

what he’s doing is giving them two roles, hopefully saving money by eliminating paying for one.

no different than if he said all managers are expected to clean the offices or staff the phones or collect accounts receivable

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garzooma  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:05:48am

re: #339 Dopamine Fish

“all managers are expected to write a meaningful amount of software themselves.” Thus proving once and for all that Musk has absolutely zero idea how to manage a software company. You. Do. Not. Hire. Engineers. To. Manage. Engineers. It just doesn’t work. Great engineers make TERRIBLE managers, and great managers make TERRIBLE engineers.

I’m beginning to see why self-driving Teslas keep crashing.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:06:22am

The typical way a software department is organized: Junior and senior engineers are organized into teams, usually along the lines of business units. (Inside Twitter, they could probably be organized architecturally, with, for example, an identity management team for maintaining components related to user signup/signin/profile management, etm.) Each team has a lead engineer, or tech lead, who is a well-respected senior engineer who can be trusted to mentor junior engineers and provide accurate and reliable code reviews, as well as interact with other teams and provide top-level direction. There’s a separate team of architects (more senior engineers) who collaborate with tech leads to design a vision for the software, and then management sits on top of the whole pile of engineers. Managers validate business functionality against requirements, develop new business requirements to pass to tech leads (who translate it into tech-speak for the devs on their team), and do all the paperwork to keep the whole train moving and keep it all away from the engineers.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:06:30am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was just on a flight w/ @MarshaBlackburn. She and her staff refused to answer whether it was appropriate for President Trump to dine with a neo-Nazi.

um…they did answer

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:07:47am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘free speech in america’

i think that phrase doesnt mean what you think it means

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:08:16am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:08:42am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:09:13am

re: #354 Crush White Nationalism

Elon, it’s YOU they hate, my dude, not free speech.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:09:41am

Cochise County, Az, refuses to certify its vote by today’s deadline.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:10:39am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted.

What percentage got the bivalent booster?

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:10:53am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:10:58am

re: #350 garzooma

I’m beginning to see why self-driving Teslas keep crashing.

One of the reasons is that the engineers had to answer to a narcissist who got the idea in his head that self-driving cars shouldn’t have technology that works better than the human eye, so they were stuck using cameras when LIDAR was available. He’s only started to bend on that recently.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:13:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:14:04am

re: #358 No Malarkey!

What percentage got the bivalent booster?

Narrator’s voice: not enough of them.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:15:46am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:17:30am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:18:18am
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Belafon  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:18:31am

My manager was a software engineer. Her degree is in applied mathematics. She’s a good manager. I don’t know what her coding skills were like, but the best part of her being a former coder is she knows what the bullshit feels like when it gets too far down the chain, and she does her best to prevent that from happening.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:18:43am

Caught me some fresh bots in the wild, all of them with zero prior tweets going back five years on average. Hmmm, isn’t the target of their adoration the guy who made a whole deal out of not having bots on Twitter? It’s so very weird! /NotWeirdInTheLeast

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:19:00am

His Ass-Holeyness doesn’t want to offend his base…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:20:35am

Has Elmo let Rage Furby back on twitter yet?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:20:45am

re: #366 Belafon

My manager was a software engineer. Her degree is in applied mathematics. She’s a good manager. I don’t know what her coding skills were like, but the best part of her being a former coder is she knows what the bullshit feels like when it gets too far down the chain, and she does her best to prevent that from happening.

Key word there: Former. An engineer can learn to be a manager, but as a general rule, you don’t want people who are currently doing engineering to be doing managing. The skill sets are dramatically different. I know you know this, I’m preaching to the choir. And a guy like Elon will never listen to a no-account nobody like me.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:20:53am

re: #368 Joe Bacon

I did not see that coming.

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:21:04am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:21:33am

re: #368 Joe Bacon

His Ass-Holeyness doesn’t want to offend his base…

Seditious Shithead didn’t want to antagonize his stormtrooper base.
Felonious Flounder wanted to curry favors with the goddamned Nazi/white nationalist fascist base.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:21:47am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

Has Elmo let Rage Furby back on twitter yet?

Not yet.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:22:49am

re: #365 lawhawk

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I just listened to the new track on youtube music. Seems like a solid track that embraces the old while also sounding fresh and a bit different from their discography. Hopefully the rest of the album is just as solid.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:23:14am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

Has Elmo let Rage Furby back on twitter yet?

You mean Ginger Snapped still isn’t back on The Bird?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:25:55am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

Cochise County, Az, refuses to certify its vote by today’s deadline.

LOL

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:27:09am

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

Elon, it’s YOU they hate, my dude, not free speech.

Narcissists always incorrectly define what their opposition is doing to prop up their inner-world. Musk’s personality disorder makes him entirely unsuited to have the influence he has.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:28:27am

re: #373 lawhawk

Seditious Shithead didn’t want to antagonize his stormtrooper base.
Felonious Flounder wanted to curry favors with the goddamned Nazi/white nationalist fascist base.

Trump doesn’t care. He is just tossing out an immediately generated out-of-his-ass justification for acting as Trump wants to act.

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SerialUpDinger  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:29:59am

re: #335 retired cynic

the image - (in all its glory…)flic.kr

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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:30:06am

Doesn’t Tim Apple have 600 billion lying around somewhere where he could just buyout twittler and Tesla and shut Tony snark up for good?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:30:50am
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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:31:27am

re: #368 Joe Bacon

His Ass-Holeyness doesn’t want to offend his base…

[Embedded content]

Remember Fuentes was one of those “very fine people on both sides” spy45 was speaking about at charlottsville

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:32:43am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

I don’t really want to see this played out repeatedly* since we all know that it is going to end up before the SCOTUS and thus we would have little expectation of justice in the matter.

And yes the local voters might be incensed, but the damage will be done to the system itself. And the fact that votes can be eliminated via this method becomes another weapon in the fascist arsenal to disenfranchise.

* - For instance, there is the earlier reported 2-2-1 to certify the vote in Luzerne County, PA. I have no idea whether this would have any effect on the election results if it was tossed out, but like I said I don’t want this sort of strategy to become commonplace either.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:34:54am

re: #365 lawhawk

Oh, back to the first album? Never really found them interesting other than a couple of tracks - a near perfect greatest hits band. This isn’t going to be one of them for me, I fear.

Now there’s a new Garbage album out (round Halloween) and that’s more interesting to me from a bunch of old rockers.

Garbage - Witness To Your Love (Official Music Video)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:36:04am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I called my (obstetrician), the one that had delivered my babies, and I explained my situation to him,” Jane said. “It was the ugliest feeling explaining to the doctor that delivered your child that she was raped, and then him telling you he can’t do anything to help you. He gave me the number to the Louisiana clinic.”

But that clinic was also closed. Volunteers told Jane to try New Mexico, where Mississippi’s abortion clinic relocated.

“I called the New Mexico place. It was just too far when I Googled it,” Jane said.

The closest clinic Jane could find was in Illinois — Planned Parenthood Fairview Heights — a 7 1/2-hour drive. She called the clinic.
“She had seen the severity of the nature and squeezed her in,” Jane said. “She told me the cost: $1,595.”

Jane didn’t know where she would find the money.

“We tried. It was two weeks. We tried. I booked a hotel. It was close to $500, so close to $2,000, not including gas, food, motel. The funds were the hardest to come up with,” Jane said.

This bullshit brought to you by “loving” pro-life “Christians”.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:37:35am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:38:17am

re: #384 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I don’t really want to see this played out repeatedly* since we all know that it is going to end up before the SCOTUS and thus we would have little expectation of justice in the matter.

And yes the local voters might be incensed, but the damage will be done to the system itself. And the fact that votes can be eliminated via this method becomes another weapon in the fascist arsenal to disenfranchise.

* - For instance, there is the earlier reported 2-2-1 to certify the vote in Luzerne County, PA. I have no idea whether this would have any effect on the election results if it was tossed out, but like I said I don’t want this sort of strategy to become commonplace either.

Marc Elias and his law firm are planning on suing the counties that are refusing to certify to compel certification, since, y’know, that is state law that they’re violating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:38:27am

meanwhile in Maricopa County:

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:40:39am

re: #326 Dopamine Fish

What the actual fucking hell? Not certifying the election is bad enough, but VOTING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE “I just want to see what happens”?!?!?!?

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Is Daniel Schramm really a Democrat or is he a Tulsi “Democrat” or a Sinema “Democrat”?

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:41:09am

re: #387 BigPapa

[Embedded content]

Musk is starting to remind me of another tech guy who was into guns and drugs, and wound up hanging himself in his prison cell.

en.wikipedia.org

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:42:42am

re: #390 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Daniel Schramm really a Democrat or is he a Tulsi “Democrat” or a Sinema “Democrat”?

I assume that he’s a real Democrat who is tired of the Republican’s shit, so joined them in failing to certify votes that a Republican won.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:49:29am

re: #392 Crush White Nationalism

I assume that he’s a real Democrat who is tired of the Republican’s shit, so joined them in failing to certify votes that a Republican won.

Or, alternately, I wonder if he knew this was coming and had advise to make it hang in order to generate the test case for the state courts to use to establish a settled decision for this sort of thing going forward. (With I expect the losing side appealing the thing all the way to the top.)

And I am sort of torn about what sort of “You missed the deadline to certify so this happens automatically” rule will come forth. Lots of room for abuse of the process. Since for the sake of the process you can’t just say “the projections are the actual result”.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2022 • 10:52:05am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

What’s the point in voting if they are forced? Do away with the voting.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2022 • 11:37:34am

re: #380 SerialUpDinger

the image - (in all its glory…) on flickr: flic.kr

Wow!!!

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2022 • 11:46:13am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Just a daily reminder that Twitter is no longer being run as a for-profit company, but as a personal megaphone for an entitled, spoiled rotten troll. Elon’s descent into this abyss has been going on for a number of years now, really taking off when Tesla Fremont was hit with discrimination lawsuits.

Elon’s current fascist-friendly activity these days is directly tied to the grievance he has with any and all civil rights efforts.

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Axolotl  Nov 28, 2022 • 2:17:58pm

re: #246 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’d think it could be to get people identified if they try to payload their drones for bad purposes. I mean, I’m not talking warhead drones but if you have one that has the capacity to carry stuff, that’s kinda scary (since so many people these days are bugnuts insane).

Someday, not long from now these drones will be weaponized and powered by facial recognition AI to kill certain people. It will become very difficult to hide from them.


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