Molecular Steve: “Heavens to Betsy” (Video by Bob Schneider)

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Bob Schneider’s AI video techniques are getting pretty sophisticated! His surreal LLM-generated imagery works well in a music video format.

But now, I need to discuss this song. What is that chord when they sing “don’t look down???” It’s got some very strange notes. Excuse me while I figure that one out.

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Unabogie  May 15, 2024 • 5:01:45pm

I absolutely despise the fact that we’re being led by morons.

I think a lot of people are like, ‘Oh, Putin apologists are, like, whitewashing all the stuff that he’s done to the different people.’ I was just like, no, I’d love to, I’d love to see Joe Biden give an interview where he can speak on the history of the United States in the same way that Putin talked about the history of his country.

This honestly makes me pessimistic for the future of humanity. We’ve always had idiots. We’ve always had grifters. But we’re elevating the grifters and idiots to lead us. We might survive in spite of this shit. But I’m just a little exhausted working so hard to just live in a world of sanity.

msnbc.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2024 • 5:06:32pm

oh so good.

My favorite Mom & Pop gelato shop in Los Angeles started to make pink grapefruit sorbet. It turned out to be a big hit during the weekend that they are continuing to make it…and I just had a scoop after working out in the gym. Sooooooooo gooooooood!

eccounpoco.com

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 5:09:26pm

re: #1 Unabogie

I’m glad I didn’t know who Aaron Rodgers was until very recently, because I don’t have any illusions to be shattered.

As long as there’s a large segment of society that rewards people for being dangerously stupid, there will always be people who may or may not be smart, but who will eagerly sell their integrity for a ride on that gravy train.

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 5:11:55pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I’m glad I didn’t know who Aaron Rodgers was until very recently, because I don’t have any illusions to be shattered.

As long as there’s a large segment of society that rewards people for being dangerously stupid, there will always be people who may or may not be smart, but who will eagerly sell their integrity for a ride on that gravy train.

I can’t imagine putting any level of trust in anything a man who gets paid to get repeatedly thrown violently to the ground says, but that appears to be just me.

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Unabogie  May 15, 2024 • 5:12:59pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I’m glad I didn’t know who Aaron Rodgers was until very recently, because I don’t have any illusions to be shattered.

As long as there’s a large segment of society that rewards people for being dangerously stupid, there will always be people who may or may not be smart, but who will eagerly sell their integrity for a ride on that gravy train.

I think about this often, but growing up with Republicans like Alan Simpson and Bob Dole in office, I could disagree and hate seeing them elected while not thinking they’d bring a pandemic upon us or cozy up to monsters. I don’t even talk to Republicans these days because I can’t stand the crazy. They don’t even disagree on policy anymore, since everything they vote for is related to batshit conspiracy theories.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2024 • 5:19:20pm

Speaking of stupid…the latest from Watters…

‘As Zen as the Tasmanian Devil’: Fox News host mocked for Trump ‘court meditation’ excuse

Wearing a straight face, the TV broadcaster made the fulsome defense of former President Donald Trump’s alleged courtroom nap times while he stands trial for the criminal hush money cover-up case where he faces 34-counts of falsifying business records.

“He’s not sleeping,” Watters declared to his “The Five” co-host Greg Gutfeld. “He’s meditating, Greg.”

“He’s in a meditative state. And when you’re defensive about something, you avoid something. Trump’s not defensive of being old and tired. He can shut his eyes and not feel bad about it like Sleepy Joe.”

Watters’ latest suggestion that Trump is internalizing his thoughts and concentrating on his breath, body, and sounds was met with widespread skepticism.

@Christo12919382 posted: “Jesse Watters: He’s not farting. He’s sending smoke signals to his lawyers.”

@KMCE15 writes: “Yes, yes. Whenever I think of d Trump, I think zen. I think meditative state.”

@no_raise4_7_yrs also leaned in on the meditation farce: “He meditates like nobody has ever seen before.”

“Trump is about as Zen as the Tasmanian Devil,” jokes @Richard89220241.

rawstory.com

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Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2024 • 5:20:04pm

Welp. I did it. I booked one way tickets to FLL. I will miss Michigan!

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 5:21:58pm

re: #5 Unabogie

I think about this often, but growing up with Republicans like Alan Simpson and Bob Dole in office, I could disagree and hate seeing them elected while not thinking they’d bring a pandemic upon us or cozy up to monsters. I don’t even talk to Republicans these days because I can’t stand the crazy. They don’t even disagree on policy anymore, since everything they vote for is related to batshit conspiracy theories.

I think the Republican Party has been driven insane by what they see as a loss of power in the age of civil rights and women’s rights. That’s why an overt racist like Trump was able to grab this kind of complete control; they were pining for an authoritarian to restore them to power. Et voila!

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 5:23:47pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I think the Republican Party has been driven insane by what they see as a loss of power in the age of civil rights and women’s rights. That’s why an overt racist like Trump was able to grab this kind of complete control; they were pining for an authoritarian. Et voila!

America electing a Black man as president literally drove them crazy. They couldn’t stand the thought that America might soon no longer be dominated by white Christian men, as it had been for much of its existence.

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EPR-radar  May 15, 2024 • 5:24:33pm

re: #5 Unabogie

I think about this often, but growing up with Republicans like Alan Simpson and Bob Dole in office, I could disagree and hate seeing them elected while not thinking they’d bring a pandemic upon us or cozy up to monsters. I don’t even talk to Republicans these days because I can’t stand the crazy. They don’t even disagree on policy anymore, since everything they vote for is related to batshit conspiracy theories.

This. The GOP platform in 2020 was literally “the shit that gushes from Trump’s mouth-anus, updated continually.” Less poetically, the GOP is an organized crime outfit that has seeking money and power for its own as its only goal. It is not in any sense a normal political party.

The wretched state of the GOP is the 800 lb. gorilla in US politics that the US mainstream media refuses to report on.

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Unabogie  May 15, 2024 • 5:26:40pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

This. The GOP platform in 2020 was literally “the shit that gushes from Trump’s mouth-anus, updated continually.” Less poetically, the GOP is an organized crime outfit that has seeking money and power for its own as its only goal. It is not in any sense a normal political party.

The wretched state of the GOP is the 800 lb. gorilla in US politics that the US mainstream media refuses to report on.

ok-cleek.com

Today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today, updated daily.

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Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2024 • 5:26:51pm

I was at T-Mobile today to get a new phone for Zeddo. There was this lady with the cutest little puppy! I walked over to tell her how cute her puppy is when the pup, which was actually a full grown dog, freaked out, almost jumped out of her arms trying to bite me! It caused a sensation and the store cleared out and the lady was so embarrassed!

I backed off. Think of it this way. You are a li’l doggy but you’re so tiny you can fit into a coffee mug. Any random human can pick you up and carry you around. For this reason tiny doggies have to be super aggressive to protect themselves.

My son’s dog is just a big old bag of sloppy hugs and kisses.

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EPR-radar  May 15, 2024 • 5:30:09pm

re: #9 Nerdy Fish

America electing a Black man as president literally drove them crazy. They couldn’t stand the thought that America might soon no longer be dominated by white Christian men, as it had been for much of its existence.

The GOP has been working its way to its present state of being a cesspit of Satan for a very long time. Obama serving as president for two terms successfully (the bigots of America would have been delighted if Obama were corrupt) was the final blow.

But I think the foundation was laid at least a century ago, and it was first exposed when the GOP had no answer to the economic issues of the Great Depression other than letting the rich do as they please and hoping that “prosperity will be just around the corner” (Hoover campaign slogan, 1932).

Since then, the GOP has been completely useless on all economic issues, since they never deviate from the formula of letting the rich do as they please.

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 5:31:38pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

We all love doggos but they can be dangerous because they are very territorial and protective and usually not great at handling unexpected situations with humans.

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 5:32:29pm

he protecc

but he also attacc

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 5:34:51pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

“Trickle-down economics” is not a new phenomenon. It’s been around as long as the rich and powerful have had cronies in power whose ears they can bend with a large enough pile of cash. And it has still, to this day, never worked.

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gocart mozart  May 15, 2024 • 5:36:40pm
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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 5:38:42pm

re: #5 Unabogie

I think about this often, but growing up with Republicans like Alan Simpson and Bob Dole in office, I could disagree and hate seeing them elected while not thinking they’d bring a pandemic upon us or cozy up to monsters. I don’t even talk to Republicans these days because I can’t stand the crazy. They don’t even disagree on policy anymore, since everything they vote for is related to batshit conspiracy theories.

my favorite alan simpson quote:

“If you can’t learn to compromise on an issue without compromising yourself, you sure as hell should never be in the legislative body. Every document of this country was a compromise. Go home and bitch and raise hell around the city council or something. Go haunt someone else. But you should never come to Congress. And you should never get married.”

Simpson continued: ‘If you want to be a purist, go somewhere on a mountaintop and praise the east or something. But if you want to be in politics, you learn to compromise. And you learn to compromise on the issue without compromising yourself. Show me a guy who won’t compromise and I’ll show you a guy with rock for brains.’

— Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-WY), quoted by Time (6/27/13 i think)

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 5:39:23pm

I was once almost attacked by a full-grown Rottweiler named Nadine who was being taken out for a walk, even though she knew me and was normally very friendly, because I was on the way out for a bike ride and I had a helmet and glasses and bike gear on, and she didn’t recognize me. That Rottweiler bark really gets the fight or flight syndrome going.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  May 15, 2024 • 5:40:29pm

People that bring animals out shopping ought to have their own personal level of Hell. My wife and daughter have to deal with these people every single day that they work. One lady brought two huskies that didn’t like each other in to shop. Another lady brought a sick dog that shit all over the apparel department. Don’t worry though, the nice lady used store merchandise to try to wipe it up! She finally gave up and tossed the filthy clothes under a clothes rack and literally dragged her dog off, leaving a smear on the linoleum floor.

I could write a book on the incidents that they have had to endure because of selfish fucks that just have to bring their dogs into a store. I wish I had a Komodo dragon to bring into the store as an emotional support pet.

“He’s really nice but likes to nip you and then follow you around”

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 5:41:31pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon ✅

Wearing a straight face, the TV broadcaster made the fulsome defense of former President Donald Trump’s alleged courtroom nap times while he stands trial for the criminal hush money cover-up case where he faces 34-counts of falsifying business records.

Are you stating this as fact or just guessing?

If the former, then prove how you know
If not, then stfu

Eta: watters,not joe bacon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2024 • 5:44:12pm

re: #9 Nerdy Fish

America electing a Black man as president literally drove them crazy. They couldn’t stand the thought that America might soon no longer be dominated by white Christian men, as it had been for much of its existence.

And that black president was better than the last three republican presidents combined in honesty, integrity and competence.

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Markm1960  May 15, 2024 • 5:47:06pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I’m glad I didn’t know who Aaron Rodgers was until very recently, because I don’t have any illusions to be shattered.

As long as there’s a large segment of society that rewards people for being dangerously stupid, there will always be people who may or may not be smart, but who will eagerly sell their integrity for a ride on that gravy train.

Way back when he was drafted Rodgers kept dropping down the board and rather than being picked in the top ten or so, he ended up going near the end of the first round. In hindsight you gotta wonder if the scouts and team management thought he was a bit of a prick and took a pass on drafting him.

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William Lewis  May 15, 2024 • 5:53:06pm

re: #23 Markm1960

Way back when he was drafted Rodgers kept dropping down the board and rather than being picked in the top ten or so, he ended up going near the end of the first round. In hindsight you gotta wonder if the scouts and team management thought he was a bit of a prick and took a pass on drafting him.

And later him and Favre notoriously did not get along. At the time everyone blamed Favre but I can’t help but remember the cliche about it taking two to tango…

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steve_davis  May 15, 2024 • 5:53:38pm

I am so very tempted to end the mentalist after this last episode of season 3 (the finale for the season). I understand that the “real red john” finale is incredibly lame, and I kind of liked the idea that red john really was this guy that was just completely not in the picture until that moment at the end.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 5:53:40pm

re: #20 Odie Hugh Manatee

.

“He’s really nice but likes to nip you and then follow you around”

Totally law abiding until the minute he’s not

//

And worse known, repeat offenders

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EPR-radar  May 15, 2024 • 5:55:12pm

re: #22 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And that black president was better than the last three republican presidents combined in honesty, integrity and competence.

The racist pigfuckers of America would have been perfectly content if Obama were corrupt, or “angry black man” or “out to get Whitey” or any of a thousand other things they would have taken to be validation of their bigotry. Instead they got 8 years of solid disappointment as Obama on his worst days was categorically better than these bigots on their best days, and they all knew that.

The resulting bigot rage is what gave us Trump, MAGA, and completed the downfall of the GOP (not their power, that unfortunately persists, but as an organization having any merit whatsoever).

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 5:55:17pm

re: #24 William Lewis

And later him and Favre notoriously did not get along. At the time everyone blamed Favre but I can’t help but remember the cliche about it taking two to tango…

Speaking as a Minnesotan, I think it is fairly self-explanatory that the two leading divas of the Green Bay Packers would be insufferable assholes. (For the record, I despise the Vikings and laughed openly when they brought Favre in for his ill-fated season.)

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 5:55:30pm

Is the FBI polling Israelis for solution to the Gaza war?

@nkalamb.bsky.social

Historian Ilan Pappe was detained in Detroit airport on Monday and asked if he was a Hamas supporter, whether he views Israeli action in Gaza as genocide, who his Arab and Muslim friends are in America, and what his solution is to the “conflict.”

He is 70.

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Dave In Austin  May 15, 2024 • 5:56:48pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon ✅

Yearning for the Fjords……..

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TarHellion  May 15, 2024 • 5:58:10pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The whole Aaron Rodgers’ saga is messed up all the way around. He grew up in a fundamentalist household and has disavowed his family. And it just takes a little digging to figure out why. I’m fairly convinced the Party Down episode Cole Landry’s Draft Day Party is based upon his 2005 draft experience. Not to excuse his repugnant views, but there’s a lot more backstory as to why he is such a broken person.

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TedStriker  May 15, 2024 • 5:59:18pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

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“Cut me some slack, Jack!”
“Chump don’t want da help, chump don’t get da help! Jiveass turkeys ain’t got no brains anyhow…”

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 15, 2024 • 6:01:11pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I think the Republican Party has been driven insane by what they see as a loss of power in the age of civil rights and women’s rights. That’s why an overt racist like Trump was able to grab this kind of complete control; they were pining for an authoritarian. Et voila!

I’ve been reading a bunch of Rick Perlstein, and looking backwards you can see how they arrived at Trumpism: there’s just years and years of talking about the need for a strong man to ride over foreigners that can’t be credited to do democracy, and since Reagan the talk of who in America should not be deemed American has followed the same escalation—accusations of decadence and communism, conspiracy theories that all change is steered by impossibly strong international forces, the implication that young people are manipulated by sinister forces—and now we’re at the capstone…there needs to a US Franco to restore the nation.

But I feel like this steps over the “why” portion of the phenomenon, which comes down to…racism and classism are economic models. Racism has always been a way to explain two things:

why some bodies could be owned, and the product of their labor owned, by a third party who had minimal obligations to their chattel;

and how people can exist and live in a space but have no property rights.

Classism amounts to a single blanket proposal that there are lesser people that perform less-valuable labor for society and thus should be treated differently. Before we ever get to this being expressed globally, look at how often in US history it recurs that the formula “these people do not have full personhood, and it is normal and good to use them to create surplus value they do not get a share of.”

Racism as we understand it in the present day is full of “hate” and rage because the racist feels that the natural order has been disrupted: they are not getting their patrimony. This exists as an alternative explanation to the state of the world than, say, acknowledging that the existing global economic system over eighty years has destroyed the basis of most people’s ability to earn a living wage, and that the people that do make money from this system are basically an oligarchy without a state that have class interests that transcend race and nationality and all other identity markers.

People aren’t just stupid in a bad-test-scores type way, they’re the end product of the worldview they’ve been trained in, and that worldview doesn’t allow for answers other than that Real, Good People have been betrayed by Suspect, Inferior People in ways that reference existing racisms and classisms. Even free floating kooks like Rogers are ultimately understandable as evoking race and class to explain the contradictions of the world: the end point of believing that much in hierarchy is that you’ll eventually begin to hope for an absolute ruler that will restore the proper pyramid-shaped order.

This is why they all use Putin as a model: he’s “white” enough for their purposes and wields nationalism in ways they view as “good” precisely because it’s oligarchy-shaped.

If you fit together all of Trump’s rage-baiting statements, they amount to a plan for economic redistribution: the taking of wealth and power from all the kinds of Inferior. It’s a flashier version of the same scam that people are already fleeced by, but they won’t discard the model because they prefer any system in which they’re above others to any system in which they’re just equal.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:03:20pm
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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:05:35pm

So biden’s gonna win

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:08:19pm

re: #35 Dangerman

It concerns me greatly that there are nearly 100 million Americans who live in an actual alternate reality. Not trying to exaggerate, I mean it: They literally believe in alternate facts, and where those alternate facts do not comport with reality, they simply ignore reality and make up more alternate facts to fill the gap.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:08:27pm

re: #35 Dangerman

So biden’s gonna win

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Lady is deep in her own supply.

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 6:10:27pm

re: #35 Dangerman

I’d like one of the debate questions to be to describe how a law is made.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:10:27pm
Republican lawmakers in North Carolina are pushing forward with their plan to repeal a pandemic-era law that allowed the wearing of masks in public for health reasons, a move spurred in part by demonstrations against the war in Gaza that have included masked protesters camped out on college campuses,” the AP reports.

Small, unintrusive government

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:10:37pm

re: #36 Nerdy Fish

It concerns me greatly that there are nearly 100 million Americans who live in an actual alternate reality. Not trying to exaggerate, I mean it: They literally believe in alternate facts, and where those alternate facts do not comport with reality, they simply ignore reality and make up more alternate facts to fill the gap.

You’re an optimist. If pressed, 200 million Americans will tell you there are angels.

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:13:03pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

You’re an optimist. If pressed, 200 million Americans will tell you there are angels.

You know my stance on religion. I am limiting myself here only to those who believe the voluminous propaganda being spread about Trump.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:14:46pm

re: #41 Nerdy Fish

You know my stance on religion. I am limiting myself here only to those who believe the voluminous propaganda being spread about Trump.

Same process, different deity.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:14:58pm

re: #36 Nerdy Fish

It concerns me greatly that there are nearly 100 million Americans who live in an actual alternate reality. Not trying to exaggerate, I mean it: They literally believe in alternate facts, and where those alternate facts do not comport with reality, they simply ignore reality and make up more alternate facts to fill the gap.

I agree 100%

Would prefer we develop a better phrase than “alternative facts

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BeachDem  May 15, 2024 • 6:14:59pm

I really love Alex Wagner. She doesn’t get the accolades she deserves. And Mitch Landrieu is really good defending Biden.

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:15:19pm

re: #43 Dangerman

I agree 100%

Would prefer we develop a better phrase than “alternative facts

“Bullshit” would do for a start.

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 6:16:26pm

re: #45 Nerdy Fish

Sometimes the classics are there for a reason.

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TarHellion  May 15, 2024 • 6:17:00pm

re: #39 Dangerman

“House Rules Committee Chairman Destin Hall, a Caldwell County House Republican, told reporters before the Senate vote that the House planned to “take a look at it” but members wanted to clamp down on people who wear masks while committing crimes.”

This guy will be the next NC House Speaker and is my representative. He has been corrupted by power. Flying Spaghetti Monster knows what he will propose in 2025.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2024 • 6:17:50pm

re: #1 Unabogie

He’s striving to be a defense lawyer in Idiocracy.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:17:52pm

re: #38 jaunte

I’d like one of the debate questions to be to describe how a law is made.

Trump hates those gotcha questions

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:18:39pm

re: #47 TarHellion

If you want to clamp down on people wearing masks while committing crimes, then do that. Don’t criminalize wearing masks for health reasons.

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 6:19:30pm

re: #49 Dangerman

The moderators need to prepare themselves carefully to draw out real information and not just let unsupported assertions fly.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:19:32pm

re: #47 TarHellion

There are still Klan-era anti-mask laws in effect.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2024 • 6:19:46pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I’ve said it before. A 2 term black president with a scary terrorist-sounding name triggered something in them collectively.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2024 • 6:19:47pm
Jimmy Carter’s grandson says he is ‘coming to the end’ after more than a year in hospice care

Former President Carter’s oldest grandson said Tuesday that his grandfather is “coming to the end” after spending more than a year in hospice care.

Jason Carter, who also serves as chair of The Carter Center Board of Trustees, spoke about his grandparents at the 28th Rosalynn Carter Georgia Mental Health Forum, noting it is the first such forum the center held since his grandmother, former first lady Rosalynn Carter, died in November at the age of 96.

“First of all, as you all have expected, I’m sure, my grandmother’s passing was a difficult moment for all of us, including my grandfather,” Jason Carter said, addressing the audience. “And this is of course, the first of these forums since that day, but the outpouring of love and support that we as a family received from the people in this room and from the rest of the world was so remarkable and meaningful to us.”

Jason Carter thanked the community and the rest of the world “on behalf of my whole family” for making the former first lady’s death a celebration of her life.

He then provided an update about his 99-year-old grandfather, the oldest living president.

“My grandfather is doing OK. He has been in hospice, as you know, for almost a year and a half now. And he really is, I think, coming to the end,” Jason Carter said.

“As I’ve said before, there’s a part of this faith journey that is so important to him,” he continued. “And there’s a part of that faith journey that you only can live at the very end, and I think he has been there in that space.”

thehill.com

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Tahitinho  May 15, 2024 • 6:19:50pm

Re: “What is that chord when they sing “don’t look down???”

Gm7, bass note G, melody note F? Which stands out as kind of an unexpected jump from Eb major?

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 6:20:48pm

Of course that will be unfair to Trump.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:27:18pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

You’re an optimist. If pressed, 200 million Americans will tell you there are angels.

How many think we’re a democracy? //

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:29:41pm

re: #45 Nerdy Fish

“Bullshit” would do for a start.

+1

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2024 • 6:32:51pm

re: #43 Dangerman

I agree 100%

Would prefer we develop a better phrase than “alternative facts

Lies. Bullshit. No one says that anymore.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2024 • 6:33:36pm

re: #43 Dangerman

I agree 100%

Would prefer we develop a better phrase than “alternative facts

“Straight up bullshit”.

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Patricia Kayden  May 15, 2024 • 6:35:01pm

re: #20 Odie Hugh Manatee

“He’s really nice but likes to nip you and then follow you around”

😂 😂 😂 Just today, I was in a grocery store and this guy had the cutest German Shepherd puppy on a leash. My bf asked how could that be an emotional support dog. We laughed about bringing our unruly dogs and claiming that they were our emotional support.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2024 • 6:36:17pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

“He’s really nice but likes to nip you and then follow you around”

😂 😂 😂 Just today, I was in a grocery store and this guy had the cutest German Shepherd puppy on a leash. My bf asked how could that be an emotional support dog. We laughed about bringing our unruly dogs and claiming that they were our emotional support.

Someone has an emotional support alligator. So. Yeah. An unruly dog? No biggie.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 15, 2024 • 6:40:18pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ve been reading a bunch of Rick Perlstein, and looking backwards you can see how they arrived at Trumpism: there’s just years and years of talking about the need for a strong man to ride over foreigners that can’t be credited to do democracy, and since Reagan the talk of who in America should not be deemed American has followed the same escalation—accusations of decadence and communism, conspiracy theories that all change is steered by impossibly strong international forces, the implication that young people are manipulated by sinister forces—and now we’re at the capstone…there needs to a US Franco to restore the nation.

But I feel like this steps over the “why” portion of the phenomenon, which comes down to…racism and classism are economic models. Racism has always been a way to explain two things:

why some bodies could be owned, and the product of their labor owned, by a third party who had minimal obligations to their chattel;

and how people can exist and live in a space but have no property rights.

Classism amounts to a single blanket proposal that there are lesser people that perform less-valuable labor for society and thus should be treated differently. Before we ever get to this being expressed globally, look at how often in US history it recurs that the formula “these people do not have full personhood, and it is normal and good to use them to create surplus value they do not get a share of.”

Racism as we understand it in the present day is full of “hate” and rage because the racist feels that the natural order has been disrupted: they are not getting their patrimony. This exists as an alternative explanation to the state of the world than, say, acknowledging that the existing global economic system over eighty years has destroyed the basis of most people’s ability to earn a living wage, and that the people that do make money from this system are basically an oligarchy without a state that have class interests that transcend race and nationality and all other identity markers.

People aren’t just stupid in a bad-test-scores type way, they’re the end product of the worldview they’ve been trained in, and that worldview doesn’t allow for answers other than that Real, Good People have been betrayed by Suspect, Inferior People in ways that reference existing racisms and classisms. Even free floating kooks like Rogers are ultimately understandable as evoking race and class to explain the contradictions of the world: the end point of believing that much in hierarchy is that you’ll eventually begin to hope for an absolute ruler that will restore the proper pyramid-shaped order.

This is why they all use Putin as a model: he’s “white” enough for their purposes and wields nationalism in ways they view as “good” precisely because it’s oligarchy-shaped.

If you fit together all of Trump’s rage-baiting statements, they amount to a plan for economic redistribution: the taking of wealth and power from all the kinds of Inferior. It’s a flashier version of the same scam that people are already fleeced by, but they won’t discard the model because they prefer any system in which they’re above others to any system in which they’re just equal.

I feel like “MAGA Pride” explains a lot that I have seen since just before Obama. Where else do they have to go? Nowhere.

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Charles Johnson  May 15, 2024 • 6:44:04pm

re: #55 Tahitinho

Re: “What is that chord when they sing “don’t look down???”

Gm7, bass note G, melody note F? Which is stands out as kind of an unexpected jump from Eb major?

Not sure if that’s all the notes in that weird chord, but I haven’t fully analyzed it yet.

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Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2024 • 6:45:58pm

I would like an emotional support octopus but I don’t know how to take it aboard a plane or even bring one into my house.

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2024 • 6:46:02pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you. - LBJ

Plus ca change and all that.

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gwangung  May 15, 2024 • 6:47:16pm

re: #63 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I feel like “MAGA Pride” explains a lot that I have seen since just before Obama. Where else do they have to go? Nowhere.

And they’ll manufacture the evidence of “racism” from black people to justify their own bigotry.

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2024 • 6:47:19pm

re: #35 Dangerman

Wow! They literally do live in another reality.

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:47:44pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

I would like an emotional support octopus but I don’t know how to take it aboard a plane or even bring one into my house.

Very Carefully (tm)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2024 • 6:47:49pm

re: #63 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

We think they have nowhere else to go, but they keep finding new lows.

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darthstar  May 15, 2024 • 6:49:16pm

re: #70 GlutenFreeJesus

We think they have nowhere else to go, but they keep finding new lows.

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Throw a diaper on stage when Trump’s speaking and see how much he likes the image.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:49:44pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

I would like an emotional support octopus but I don’t know how to take it aboard a plane or even bring one into my house.

Might have to disarm it first

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:50:40pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

I would like an emotional support octopus but I don’t know how to take it aboard a plane or even bring one into my house.

Cephalopouch.

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2024 • 6:50:46pm

re: #54 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I’m an agnostic but I recognize an actual Christian when I see one.

Vaya con Dios, Mr. Carter.

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Patricia Kayden  May 15, 2024 • 6:51:09pm

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 6:52:05pm

re: #68 Romantic Heretic

Wow! They literally do live in another reality.

It’s the emperor’s new clothes.
They know but they just don’t care.
I think they know full well they’re spouting nonsense

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Markm1960  May 15, 2024 • 6:54:07pm

re: #34 Dangerman

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But he didn’t lose Minnesota, the democrats stole it!//

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Belafon  May 15, 2024 • 6:55:12pm

re: #76 Dangerman

It’s the emperor’s new clothes.
They know but they just don’t care.
I think they know full well they’re spouting nonsense

Yep, they’re just leading the diaper people above.

This does get back to the fact that I really don’t give a shit (pun intended) that Trump wears a diaper, and kind of wish we’d stop using it as an attack on him. But if it was Biden that was found to be wearing diapers they would consider that to be a reason he’s unfit for office, not the obvious mental decline and psychopathy that Trump suffers from.

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Nerdy Fish  May 15, 2024 • 6:55:14pm

re: #77 Markm1960

But he didn’t lose Minnesota, the democrats stole it!//

Mike Lindell, that you?

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2024 • 6:55:35pm

re: #70 GlutenFreeJesus

We think they have nowhere else to go, but they keep finding new lows.

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They’re edging up to the gold-plated codpiece. $89.95

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Belafon  May 15, 2024 • 6:55:42pm

re: #77 Markm1960

But he didn’t lose Minnesota, the democrats stole it!//

He couldn’t find Minnesota on the map if you deleted all the states that don’t start with M.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2024 • 7:00:20pm
NYC Mayor Eric Adams proposes immigrants as solution to lifeguard shortage because they are ‘excellent swimmers’

New York City Mayor Eric Adams suggested immigrants as a possible solution to the city’s lifeguard shortage because, he said, they are “excellent swimmers.”

Adams was asked at a briefing Tuesday whether lifeguard staffing at the city’s pools and beaches would be an issue as Memorial Day approaches.

He responded by asking the reporter to imagine that the city could expedite work licenses for migrants and asylum-seekers for jobs that are in high demand.

“How do we have a large body of people that are in our city, and country, that are excellent swimmers and at the same time we need lifeguards — and the only obstacle is that we won’t give them the right to work to become a lifeguard?” Adams said.

nbcnews.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2024 • 7:00:36pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

“You too can own a piece of the diaper he wore in court!”

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Jay C  May 15, 2024 • 7:00:53pm

re: #81 Belafon

He couldn’t find Minnesota on the map if you deleted all the states that don’t start with M.

Even so, there are eight states that start with M, so no fair…

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 7:01:17pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Not sure if that’s all the notes in that weird chord, but I haven’t fully analyzed it yet.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 15, 2024 • 7:01:57pm

re: #78 Belafon

Yep, they’re just leading the diaper people above.

This does get back to the fact that I really don’t give a shit (pun intended) that Trump wears a diaper, and kind of wish we’d stop using it as an attack on him. But if it were Biden that was found to be wearing diapers they would consider that to be a reason he’s unfit for office, not the obvious mental decline and psychopathy that Trump suffers from.

He wants to be the strongman who ends democracy in America. I think his infirmity is a fair target.

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 7:02:20pm

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Tahitinho  May 15, 2024 • 7:13:00pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Yes, there seems to be maybe something more to it, but I can’t quite tease it out. Thanks for getting me to think… I love a musical challenge.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2024 • 7:14:52pm

re: #87 Dangerman

If you look real closely it’s signed

(M.C. Escher)

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Dangerman  May 15, 2024 • 7:15:09pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 15, 2024 • 7:16:27pm

re: #63 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I feel like “MAGA Pride” explains a lot that I have seen since just before Obama. Where else do they have to go? Nowhere.

I feel like MAGA is the arson, and the crime is all of the decisions of the past eighty years that created current material conditions.

MAGA is the way it is because it’s a rejection of cause and effect, and subsequently of concrete standards of proof and culpability: the world is not how it is because entirely-understandable and traceable end-results of long-term processes done out in the open, but because of unseen and malefic forces that can only be understood through reactionary gnosis.

It’s hubris through and through: the bad things that happened to them bespeak conspiracy, even literally hellish interference in the natural order; the same bad things happening to anyone else is natural and just.

re: #66 Romantic Heretic

Plus ca change and all that.

But this has changed since MAGA is a tentpole movement in which the shared base premise is expressed through many interpretations of a common pool of beliefs, but no two MAGAs necessarily hold the exact same beliefs nor is internal coherence of beliefs even a priority. They are united by a single claim: they are superior, they have been cheated by inferiors, and have accord only to the extent that they agree that all structures that support the inferior must be destroyed.

It’s kind of…worse…than if they were just racists, because they’ve transcended the bounded phenomenon of believing in one kind of discrimination and crossed into a kind of intersectional understanding that all aspects of the system that grant equality of dignity must be brought down.

The unmaking project is far bigger than modern civil rights, it’s effectively a call to return to feudalism not just in how power is distributed but how meaning and truth are determined. They already know they’re better than the people the despise, now they’re attempting to reconstruct society so that the people they despise cannot assert otherwise, and the children of the people they despise will learn to accept their inferiority.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2024 • 7:18:14pm

Not sure if it got mentioned around here earlier or not but the latest reports indicate Robert Fico will survive todays assassination attempt.

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Ace Rothstein  May 15, 2024 • 7:21:27pm

re: #23 Markm1960

It’s no mystery why Rodgers and his family have nothing to do with each other.

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BadgerB  May 15, 2024 • 7:25:59pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

I would like an emotional support octopus but I don’t know how to take it aboard a plane or even bring one into my house.

What I remember from growing up in Michigan (its been awhile) was that you’re supposed to throw it on the ice at a Red Wings playoff game.

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DodgerFan1988  May 15, 2024 • 7:35:44pm


The same Right Wing thugs who appeared at previous anti-gay protests at LA County School board meetings.

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Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2024 • 7:36:53pm

re: #94 BadgerB

What I remember from growing up in Michigan (its been awhile) was that you’re supposed to throw it on the ice at a Red Wings playoff game.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 15, 2024 • 7:43:53pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

If that bit about the epistemological basis of Trumpism seems vague, let me provide examples:

Trump’s speeches are viewed as highly meaningful to the in-group because “meaning” is not a function of coherence or factuality to them: truth is a function of position, and Trump is someone not only of the in-group but held high within them. What he says is true because they deem it true, and they deems things true because it is convenient to them. Specific claims that are made do not need to be materially true because they are valid by virtue of confirming the audience’s desires. If Trump tells a load-bearing ancedote—like Pershing desecrating Moro corpses as an effective piece of deterrant strategy—it does not matter what Pershing did or if it worked, the in group finds the idea palatable and therefore it is true and should be used as a model.

But when Trump misses the mark—brags about the vaccine rollout, for example—they reject this claim and pressure Trump to say something they will affirm, like anti-vax talk. They’re not blindly loyal, they want something and will ask for it.

Yes…this is strange because it’s effectively creating a sock puppet to give you permission to do what you want…but it makes sense when you compare to the sheer number of people that have rammed a holy man into high office to put a golden stamp on their actions. If “Truth” is a function of position not argument, though, it makes perfect sense to make an authority figure and hand them a script.

The other great example of this is…the current Supreme Court and it’s “originalism.”

Originalism from the get go is based on a conceit in which the position of the arguer validates the argument: when you query what the founders intended, you grant those dead men and their thoughts a special status, and the more you invoke their intentions in the abstract (as opposed to a grounded argument from their words) the more you’re arguing from authority. But from Scalia’s time to the current day you can see the current justices begin to evoke their own authority as part of the wholeness of an argument—the thing they said, even if it is not a pertinent bit of precedent (like Alito pointing to colonial laws, or Scalia citing 24).

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jaunte  May 15, 2024 • 8:14:12pm

The Random Janitor @scottthejanitor.bsky.social

Lmfaooooo I just saw this on Twitter

…Eye bleach warning…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2024 • 8:16:25pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I think the Republican Party has been driven insane by what they see as a loss of power in the age of civil rights and women’s rights. That’s why an overt racist like Trump was able to grab this kind of complete control; they were pining for an authoritarian to restore them to power. Et voila!

Their downfall commenced with Nixon’s decision to adopt the Southern strategy as the tool for victory. If they had stayed aligned with the Democrats on civil rights, they would not have devolved into the monstrous organization they have become and perhaps our nation would finally have moved beyond the racism that continues to poison us today. Though one can never be certain about the road not taken.

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Belafon  May 15, 2024 • 8:18:27pm

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

Their downfall commenced with Nixon’s decision to adopt the Southern strategy as the tool for victory. If they had stayed aligned with the Democrats on civil rights, they would not have devolved into the monstrous organization they have become and perhaps our nation would finally have moved beyond the racism that continues to poison us today. Though one can never be certain about the road not taken.

Which also ties into the fact that you cannot separate racism and anti-abortion. They wouldn’t have been able to get away with as much as they did if the “pro-life” group hadn’t decided that abortion was the only thing they cared about.

Edited

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2024 • 8:23:31pm

re: #35 Dangerman

So biden’s gonna win

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You can really tell who learned their lesson from the SOTU and those who didn’t. The former are greeting the news that Trump accepted these debates by demanding changes to rules or additional debates where the rules are in his favor, while the latter are still trying to push this “Trump presidential, Biden a fumbling old man!” talking point.

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Captain Ron  May 15, 2024 • 8:27:14pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2024 • 9:00:18pm

re: #78 Belafon

Yep, they’re just leading the diaper people above.

This does get back to the fact that I really don’t give a shit (pun intended) that Trump wears a diaper, and kind of wish we’d stop using it as an attack on him. But if it was Biden that was found to be wearing diapers they would consider that to be a reason he’s unfit for office, not the obvious mental decline and psychopathy that Trump suffers from.

My sister had traveled to a small Illinois town recently and was at a diner (I think that’s where it happened) with its TV turned to one of the Trump-supporting stations. The host on the program claimed that Biden wore Depends and joked about it. It is a matter of faith among the MAGA crowd that Biden is senile and doesn’t know what he’s saying or doing. Their programs edit all videos and photos of Biden to present that image to their audience.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2024 • 9:05:34pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister had traveled to a small Illinois town recently and was at a diner (I think that’s where it happened) with its TV turned to one of the Trump-supporting stations. The host on the program claimed that Biden wore Depends and joked about it. It is a matter of faith among the MAGA crowd that Biden is senile and doesn’t know what he’s saying or doing. Their programs edit all videos and photos of Biden to present that image to their audience.

Just like my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives insist Biden is being controlled by Obama and it’s Obama running the “deep state”…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2024 • 9:12:05pm

I see this and just SMDH…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 15, 2024 • 9:14:06pm

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Jay C  May 15, 2024 • 9:26:21pm

re: #105 Joe Bacon ✅

I see this and just SMDH…

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I see stuff like this and LOL…

The weird part is, we can’t be sure how much money this troll might actually get.

“How much?” And not, as in a sane universe, “if”….

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BeenHereAwhile  May 15, 2024 • 9:51:06pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

If that bit about the epistemological basis of Trumpism seems vague, let me provide examples:

Trump’s speeches are viewed as highly meaningful to the in-group because “meaning” is not a function of coherence or factuality to them: truth is a function of position, and Trump is someone not only of the in-group but held high within them. What he says is true because they deem it true, and they deems things true because it is convenient to them. Specific claims that are made do not need to be materially true because they are valid by virtue of confirming the audience’s desires. If Trump tells a load-bearing ancedote—like Pershing desecrating Moro corpses as an effective piece of deterrant strategy—it does not matter what Pershing did or if it worked, the in group finds the idea palatable and therefore it is true and should be used as a model.

But when Trump misses the mark—brags about the vaccine rollout, for example—they reject this claim and pressure Trump to say something they will affirm, like anti-vax talk. They’re not blindly loyal, they want something and will ask for it.

Yes…this is strange because it’s effectively creating a sock puppet to give you permission to do what you want…but it makes sense when you compare to the sheer number of people that have rammed a holy man into high office to put a golden stamp on their actions. If “Truth” is a function of position not argument, though, it makes perfect sense to make an authority figure and hand them a script.

*snip*

Trump is a figment of their affirmation.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2024 • 10:02:53pm

“…way out over your skis…”

Um… skier here. You want to be way out over your skis. If you’re not you’re in the backseat and you’re liable to ski out of control.

One of those sayings that mildly annoys me. 😵‍💫

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retired cynic  May 15, 2024 • 10:25:12pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

I thought I understood that statement, but now I see that it was backward. Now there is a need to find another way of illustrating that sentiment!

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2024 • 10:25:33pm

re: #102 Captain Ron

And whose fault is that, Margie?

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silverdolphin  May 15, 2024 • 11:51:04pm

“Is it really ‘the economy, stupid’?”

Nice discussion about how it is not the case that a huge amount of people have seen their income decrease and blame Biden. But it is the case that people who hate Biden CLAIM their income has gone down, even if it has not, in order to manipulate the poll.

They were able to use real data and show that an increase or decrease in income has no effect on the Biden approval rating. Income increase/decrease and Biden approval are not correlated.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 12:00:10am

re: #109 teleskiguy

“…way out over your skis…”

Um… skier here. You want to be way out over your skis. If you’re not you’re in the backseat and you’re liable to ski out of control.

One of those sayings that mildly annoys me. 😵‍💫

The way it was explained to me was that back in the old, old days of long, flat, wooden skis, leaning too far forward would drive the tips into the snow producing a fall. True or not, I always imagined someone with those skis in powder leaning too far forward and face-planting ;-)

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piratedan  May 16, 2024 • 12:02:48am

re: #112 silverdolphin

maybe 40-50 years ago that truism may have applied, that people would cite economic interests are the driving forces behind their votes. Now it appears to be pretty much tribal with some people in the middle who partake of their political discourse only when its close to time to vote.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2024 • 12:24:17am

re: #113 silverdolphin

The way it was explained to me was that back in the old, old days of long, flat, wooden skis, leaning too far forward would drive the tips into the snow producing a fall. True or not, I always imagined someone with those skis in powder leaning too far forward and face-planting ;-)

Cambered skis (skis that are bent lengthwise away from each other, imagine putting the skis together and you can put your hand through both skis at the middle, big gap) have been around since the mid 1800s. The long skis of yore were decidedly not flat! You heard an urban legend about skiing.

Here’s restored footage of what was happening at Arapahoe Basin, CO in 1952. You’ll notice the good skiers (among them Buddy Werner, the mountain the Steamboat ski area is on is named after him) are all way over their skis, their shoulders are as forward as possible.

1952 Footage of Skiing at Arapahoe Basin Ski Area

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2024 • 12:37:57am

re: #112 silverdolphin

“Is it really ‘the economy, stupid’?”

Nice discussion about how it is not the case that a huge amount of people have seen their income decrease and blame Biden. But it is the case that people who hate Biden CLAIM their income has gone down, even if it has not, in order to manipulate the poll.

They were able to use real data and show that an increase or decrease in income has no effect on the Biden approval rating. Income increase/decrease and Biden approval are not correlated.

If you spent the last four years listening to the “liberal media” discussing prices and inflation, you’d be forgiven for believing that somewhere exists a gargantuan list of all the “real” prices of everyday goods and inflation is some sort of tax or fee tacked onto those prices. And that if inflation comes down, then prices should likewise come down and if they don’t then that must mean that inflation continues to rage on out of control. The idea that inflation (particularly CPI) is simply a measure of the rise and fall of the average price of goods over a set period of time and not an operating principle that can be manipulated to help/harm the average voter has been supplanted with the idea that a carton of eggs should suffer the same price volatility as a gallon of gas.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2024 • 1:17:13am

Regarding Slovak PM Robert Fico, he’s stabilized but according to doctors, still in “very serious condition” and is still in the ICU at Roosevelt Hospital in Banská Bystrica.

He took two bullets to the abdomen and one to the shoulder. Needless to say, those are likely going to be life-changing injuries.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 1:30:05am

re: #116 Targetpractice

If you spent the last four years listening to the “liberal media” discussing prices and inflation, you’d be forgiven for believing that somewhere exists a gargantuan list of all the “real” prices of everyday goods and inflation is some sort of tax or fee tacked onto those prices. And that if inflation comes down, then prices should likewise come down and if they don’t then that must mean that inflation continues to rage on out of control. The idea that inflation (particularly CPI) is simply a measure of the rise and fall of the average price of goods over a set period of time and not an operating principle that can be manipulated to help/harm the average voter has been supplanted with the idea that a carton of eggs should suffer the same price volatility as a gallon of gas.

Yeah, economics is just too hard for most people. Most people think the stock market has pretty much gone up ever since the end of the Depression.

Here is the standard graph of the Dow since 1915.

Dow Jones Industrial Average

Huge drop in the Depression but mostly up since then. Up over 300-fold. But, if we normalize the numbers based on 2022 dollars, we get this curve.

DOW Jones Adjusted for Inflation

Reality is quite different. Really only up about 15-fold. And that high inflation of the 70s actually created a drop from the highs in the 60s. It took almost as long for the Dow to regain its highs from the 60s as it did to recover from the Depression.

And today’s economy is more complex than anything people understood form the 50-60s.economic decisions are made in milliseconds. We can come within minutes of the whole system freezing up. Algorithms and AI produce vey complex results. And the media acts like things are the same as they were in 1920 wrt the economy.

Its why I say just give everyone a Universal Basic Income and be done with it.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2024 • 1:40:46am

re: #81 Belafon

He couldn’t find Minnesota on the map if you deleted all the states that don’t start with M.

I think I’ve mentioned before how odd I find the concept of Minnesota. You’ve got the Mississippi running through and then the dakotas up against it. It feels like there should be another state to its west first.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 1:45:04am

re: #115 teleskiguy

Cambered skis (skis that are bent lengthwise away from each other, imagine putting the skis together and you can put your hand through both skis at the middle, big gap) have been around since the mid 1800s. The long skis of yore were decidedly not flat! You heard an urban legend about skiing.

Here’s restored footage of what was happening at Arapahoe Basin, CO in 1952. You’ll notice the good skiers (among them Buddy Werner, the mountain the Steamboat ski area is on is named after him) are all way over their skis, their shoulders are as forward as possible.

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I loved A-Basin when I was living on Colorado. But it was never that empty ;-) ONnly time I ever planted the tips was in 2 foot of powder. They caught and I came out of my bindings, went over the tops of my skies and spent 30 minutes trying to find the damn things. I always preferred3-4 inches of powder after that ;-)

Thinking more, “getting over your skies” might refer to ski jumping. It means doing something too early. If you jump too early maybe you get out over your skies like Vinko Bogotaj ;-)

The original Agony of Defeat (1970)

Man I loved Wide World of Sports.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2024 • 1:46:59am

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

Their downfall commenced with Nixon’s decision to adopt the Southern strategy as the tool for victory. If they had stayed aligned with the Democrats on civil rights, they would not have devolved into the monstrous organization they have become and perhaps our nation would finally have moved beyond the racism that continues to poison us today. Though one can never be certain about the road not taken.

I have pointed this out to innumerable classes over the years, but frost’s point in that open, given in his ironic, nihilistic style, is that both roads are essentially the same, leading to the same place. The path doesn’t make us. We make the path.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 1:59:23am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

As long as there’s a large segment of society that rewards people for being dangerously stupid, there will always be people who may or may not be smart, but who will eagerly sell their integrity for a ride on that gravy train.

It’s one of those classic American stereotypes and tradition that street smarts and practical knowledge are far superior and somehow Godlier than eleitist academic book learnin’.

Coupled with the Internet’s notion that everyone is not only entitled to their own opinion, but to their own facts which have to be weighted and treated equally and we have the perfect shitstorm of stupidity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 16, 2024 • 2:05:45am

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Is next Monday over yet? I’m tired and really need next Monday to be over.

Have a good one all!

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2024 • 3:14:22am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s one of those classic American stereotypes and tradition that street smarts and practical knowledge are far superior and somehow Godlier than eleitist academic book learnin’.

Coupled with the Internet’s notion that everyone is not only entitled to their own opinion, but to their own facts which have to be weighted and treated equally and we have the perfect shitstorm of stupidity.

These are the same sort of goobers that would show up in the County Fair in their overalls, stained tank tops, and “Git R Done” ballcaps to watch the politician who lives in a multi-million dollar mansion pretend to be one of them by choking down a corndog and nibbling on a funnel cake before disappearing behind the concession stand to wash the taste out of their mouth with a bottle of Evian.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2024 • 3:32:23am

re: #124 Targetpractice

These are the same sort of goobers that would show up in the County Fair in their overalls, stained tank tops, and “Git R Done” ballcaps to watch the politician who lives in a multi-million dollar mansion pretend to be one of them by choking down a corndog and nibbling on a funnel cake before disappearing behind the concession stand to wash the taste out of their mouth with a bottle of Evian.

But that politician “tells it like it is” about how they are superior to those others and that the lib-rals are destroying America.

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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2024 • 3:33:42am

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2024 • 3:40:17am

re: #125 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But that politician “tells it like it is” about how they are superior to those others and that the lib-rals are destroying America.

Of course. He’ll just never tell them that he thinks himself every bit “superior” to them as they think themselves “superior” to those “others.” That those people who fantasize that he’s “one of them” would never be allowed within five feet of the gates of MAL unless they paid for the “privilege.”

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Shropshire Slasher  May 16, 2024 • 3:41:45am

Achy drive time music, I hope you enjoy! Now where is my Aleve?

Someone To Spend My Time With - Robbing Millions

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2024 • 3:45:53am

re: #127 Targetpractice

Of course. He’ll just never tell them that he thinks himself every bit “superior” to them as they think themselves “superior” to those “others.” That those people who fantasize that he’s “one of them” would never be allowed within five feet of the gates of MAL unless they paid for the “privilege.”

And I know a bunch of people with college degrees who are every bit as taken up with these viewpoints as those “goobers”. Might have taken a different logical (or illogical) route to get there, but their “go team X” vibe makes them willing recipients of stories and anecdotes that support the viewpoint.

Which soon gets you to the massive pretzel-twisting and both sider-ism since those are necessary in order to make Trump and the bootlicker party the acceptable alternative for their votes.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2024 • 4:00:06am

re: #129 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And I know a bunch of people with college degrees who are every bit as taken up with these viewpoints as those “goobers”. Might have taken a different logical (or illogical) route to get there, but their “go team X” vibe makes them willing recipients of stories and anecdotes that support the viewpoint.

Which soon gets you to the massive pretzel-twisting and both sider-ism since those are necessary in order to make Trump and the bootlicker party the acceptable alternative for their votes.

Many of them are single issue voters, like how the Log Cabin Repubs tend to be “fiscally conservative” in the sense that they support slashing social spending to afford more tax cuts. Others do so out of routine, talking of the party as though it’s still the party it was in the 1980s and not the insane asylum it is today. And simply others are like Trump, i.e. the application of lip enhancing cosmetics to domesticated swine.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 4:12:05am

re: #112 silverdolphin

“Is it really ‘the economy, stupid’?”

Nice discussion about how it is not the case that a huge amount of people have seen their income decrease and blame Biden. But it is the case that people who hate Biden CLAIM their income has gone down, even if it has not, in order to manipulate the poll.

They were able to use real data and show that an increase or decrease in income has no effect on the Biden approval rating. Income increase/decrease and Biden approval are not correlated.

It’s as much a lie as any other lie they tell

These days, If they’re talking, they’re lying

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 16, 2024 • 4:13:38am

re: #20 Odie Hugh Manatee

People that bring animals out shopping ought to have their own personal level of Hell. My wife and daughter have to deal with these people every single day that they work. One lady brought two huskies that didn’t like each other in to shop. Another lady brought a sick dog that shit all over the apparel department. Don’t worry though, the nice lady used store merchandise to try to wipe it up! She finally gave up and tossed the filthy clothes under a clothes rack and literally dragged her dog off, leaving a smear on the linoleum floor.

I could write a book on the incidents that they have had to endure because of selfish fucks that just have to bring their dogs into a store. I wish I had a Komodo dragon to bring into the store as an emotional support pet.

“He’s really nice but likes to nip you and then follow you around”

That’s why when I take Minnie out shopping she stays in her stroller. If need be, I can close the hood to keep people from trying to pet her.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 4:16:10am

re: #124 Targetpractice

These are the same sort of goobers that would show up in the County Fair in their overalls, stained tank tops, and “Git R Done” ballcaps to watch the politician who lives in a multi-million dollar mansion pretend to be one of them by choking down a corndog and nibbling on a funnel cake before disappearing behind the concession stand to wash the taste out of their mouth with a bottle of Evian.

You reminded me of the lte scene with Pappy O’Daniel and the Foggy Bottom Boys from the end of O Brother, Where Art Thou?

Youtube Video

There really was a Pappy O’Daniel who ran a Bisquit company, had a radio show and campaigned with a country group called the Hillbilly Boys. He was a real tool and not nearly as loveable as Charles Durning. He ran a winning populist campaign for governor of Texas, defeated Lyndon Johnson by 1300 (likely illegal) votes for Senator in 1941 and organized a third-party campaign against FDR in 1944 to drain off Democratic votes to try and prevent his re-election. All while using the new technology of radio to convince the goobers he was their man.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 16, 2024 • 4:21:28am

This fucking guy trying to manipulate others when he is up for parole.

A demonic dog inspired him to kill, but now he’s driven by a diary.

Son of Sam serial killer David Berkowitz compared his decades behind bars to Anne Frank’s “inspirational” writings - days before the self-proclaimed “father figure” is set to face the parole board.

“My favorite book is the holy Bible. But the most inspirational book for me throughout my years of incarceration is ‘Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl,’” David Berkowitz told The Post this week.

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Berkowitz later told psychiatrists the bloodbath was ordered by neighbor Sam Carr’s black Labrador retriever.

In June 1978, he was sentenced to 547 years in prison.

Behind bars, Berkowitz found God.

“Jesus has allowed me to survive and thrive,” he told The Post.

Berkowitz became a Christian in prison.

For years, he’s worked as a chaplain’s clerk and preaches “forgiveness, redemption, and hope,” while acting as a “father figure” to wayward inmates.

“Yes, I have a life sentence to do, but I choose to do it well. I always try to help and encourage the younger guys,” he said.

“Over the years I’ve become something of a father figure or an older brother to the younger men.”

In 2002, Berkowitz became eligible for parole, with a board deciding his fate every two years since.

nypost.com

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Belafon  May 16, 2024 • 4:23:17am

re: #115 teleskiguy

It seems that finance people started using the term in the early 90s, which led sports people to puck it up, which Obama picked up from, which led to it becoming more common.

nymag.com

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 4:26:38am

re: #134 Shropshire Slasher

Keeping the “con” in “convict”.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 16, 2024 • 4:28:04am

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Okie dokie… Three it is.

Four here
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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 4:43:01am

re: #134 Shropshire Slasher

This fucking guy trying to manipulate others when he is up for parole.

snip

nypost.com

Mention Christianity in prison and this is what I think of.

A Clockwork Orange - Prison Charlie

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Shropshire Slasher  May 16, 2024 • 4:51:54am

I have had three wonderful Labradors in my life, they never told me to kill anyone!

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2024 • 4:56:13am

My cats never told me to kill anyone, but that’s because they’ve been too busy trying to kill me instead.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 4:57:03am

I knew it was going to be a word.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 5:18:48am

re: #6 Joe Bacon ✅

“He’s not sleeping,” Watters declared to his “The Five” co-host Greg Gutfeld. “He’s meditating, Greg.”

“He’s in a meditative state. And when you’re defensive about something, you avoid something. Trump’s not defensive of being old and tired. He can shut his eyes and not feel bad about it like Sleepy Joe.”

He’s not dead, he’s just meditating! Manhattan Orange, beautiful coiffeur, probably just pinin’ for the upper 40’s…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 5:22:57am

re: #36 Nerdy Fish

It concerns me greatly that there are nearly 100 million Americans who live in an actual alternate reality. Not trying to exaggerate, I mean it: They literally believe in alternate facts, and where those alternate facts do not comport with reality, they simply ignore reality and make up more alternate facts to fill the gap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 5:25:22am

re: #49 Dangerman

Trump hates those gotcha questions

He has people to explain to him tedious details like how lawmaking or judicial review function while he concentrates on vital issues like cutting a Presidential image and Making America Great Again

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2024 • 5:27:01am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He’s not dead, he’s just Meditating! Manhattan Orange, beautiful coiffeur, probably just pinin’ for the upper 40’s…

Trump is now the enlightened Budda……
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 5:28:15am

re: #77 Markm1960

But he didn’t lose Minnesota, the democrats stole it!//

Remember when Rudy Giuliani got Michigan and MInnesota mixed up (MI vs MN) when he claimed that voter returns were being overinflated?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 5:29:16am

re: #86 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

He wants to be the strongman who ends democracy in America. I think his infirmity is a fair target.

I just find it irrelevant especially compared to his other much more elective traints.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 5:31:12am
“Biden had a plan to sucker Trump into an early debate to shake up the race. I give the win to Biden on that. The bottom line: Two guys in a studio with no audience is the hardest debate, and it’s the most revealing**. That’s what Biden wants. And round one, he’s getting it.”

— GOP political strategist Mike Murphy, quoted by Politico.

rando:

Biden is patient and strategic.

“We” are surprised Biden made the “sudden” offer with clear dates and requirements. Which means back in February, maybe December, he and his team already had this plan - let Diarrhea Don piss and moan for debates and then lunge with a bold offer on your own terms.

** therefore in the end TFG will weasel out

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  May 16, 2024 • 5:36:41am

re: #139 Shropshire Slasher

I have had three wonderful Labradors in my life, they never told me to kill anyone!

Chihuahuas on the other hand…

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 5:37:35am

re: #148 Dangerman

Trump will be unavailable for the debates after being found guilty of multiple felonies in NY. He’ll take that lifeline to weasel out of the debate.

Or, the debate location will be splitscreen from Rikers Island in NYC.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2024 • 5:38:17am

re: #149 BlueSpotinAL ✅

Chihuahuas on the other hand…

See, if Berkowitz had said a Chihuahua told him to go kill people, that might’ve given his story a bit more credibility.

But a Labrador? Get the fuck outta here.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 5:39:36am

re: #148 Dangerman

“President Joe Biden’s decision to take Donald Trump up on his ‘anytime and anywhere’ debate offer and propose June and September debates is a clear sign of worry among his reelection campaign team,” the Washington Monthly reports.

“Two months ago, Biden cracked the door open to not having any debates, which hadn’t happened in a presidential race since 1972. Asked by a reporter if he would ‘commit to a debate with former President Trump,’ Biden responded, ‘It depends on his behavior.’”**

“Nothing has changed about Trump’s behavior since then. What also hasn’t changed is who is leading the polls.”

right
throwing down the gauntlet, catching the other guy off guard with his own words is ‘worried’

**as i said above, this plan was already in place when biden ‘cracked the door’. he said this on purpose, ya dolt.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 5:43:13am

re: #150 lawhawk

Trump will be unavailable for the debates after being found guilty of multiple felonies in NY. He’ll take that lifeline to weasel out of the debate.

Or, the debate location will be splitscreen from Rikers Island in NYC.

Let’s be realistic here. He may well be a convicted felon by then, but he’s not going to be in Rikers. He’ll be allowed to go free pending the appeal.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 5:43:52am

re: #150 lawhawk

Trump will be unavailable for the debates after being found guilty of multiple felonies in NY. He’ll take that lifeline to weasel out of the debate.

Or, the debate location will be splitscreen from Rikers Island in NYC.

wow
forced to admit he was found guilty to avoid a debate he’d be crushed in.
totally on brand

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2024 • 5:56:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 6:04:16am

re: #153 Nerdy Fish

Let’s be realistic here. He may well be a convicted felon by then, but he’s not going to be in Rikers. He’ll be allowed to go free pending the appeal.

I will actually be surprised if he gets anything stiffer than house arrest at Mar-a-Lago. It will probably have to be sufficient to be able to call him a convicted felon.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 6:08:58am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will actually be surprised if he gets anything more than house arrest at Mar-a-Lago. It will probably have to be sufficient to be able to call him a convicted felon.

I believe there is an outside chance that either the DC or Florida cases (assuming Loose Cannon gets recused, as she should be) could result in an actual prison term for him. I agree with you that even if a conviction is upheld in New York, there’s no way the judge sentences him to prison. First time offender, charged with white-collar crimes, rich and powerful white man who is already surrounded by federal law enforcement agents… No way in hell.

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Randall Gross  May 16, 2024 • 6:12:10am

But if you need to wake up fast… then I recommend Life by Louis Cole & friends
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHy1…

Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T13:11:14.316Z

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Shropshire Slasher  May 16, 2024 • 6:13:25am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will actually be surprised if he gets anything stiffer than house arrest at Mar-a-Lago. It will probably have to be sufficient to be able to call him a convicted felon.

Street cred.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 6:15:00am

cnn are idiots

Biden is up against nostalgia for Trump’s first term

More than half, 55%, of all Americans say they see Trump’s presidency as a success, while 44% see it as a failure. That contrasts with a survey taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, when 55% of voters considered his presidency a failure…

this is not nostalgia.
it’s desensitizing with the passage of time

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 6:22:02am

re: #160 Dangerman

cnn are idiots

Biden is up against nostalgia for Trump’s first term

this is not nostalgia.
it’s desensitizing with the passage of time

Trump is all about presenting a rose-tinted image of what people think America should be, just like the way people view the Reagan era.

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rhuarc  May 16, 2024 • 6:24:17am

re: #134 Shropshire Slasher

This fucking guy trying to manipulate others when he is up for parole.

snip

nypost.com

And according to Christians a guy like that will go to heaven and a non-believer like myself who has not committed mass murder or any other huge sins will spend eternity in hell.

Great religion you got there, Christians!

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 6:27:14am

Eagle
BGYP connections
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jeffreyw  May 16, 2024 • 6:30:07am

bean soup

lucky capture

Good morning!

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 6:31:04am

I think Trump could miss his kid’s graduation after all.

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 6:31:16am

Oh wow! The Dynamic Dimwits are in the Courtroom today!

Klannie Oakley and Matt Gaetz!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 6:32:08am

The A-team (A is for asshole) has arrived:

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is sitting in the defense section between Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) and Eric Trump.

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 6:33:03am

Five bucks says Bobo gives Eric a quickie in the courtroom.

Mastodon

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jeffreyw  May 16, 2024 • 6:37:56am

re: #76 Dangerman

It’s the emperor’s new clothes.
They know but they just don’t care.
I think they know full well they’re spouting nonsense

Arguments need not be sound to be effective. A lie, oft loudly repeated, can sway more people than God’s own truth.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2024 • 6:38:29am

re: #112 silverdolphin

“Is it really ‘the economy, stupid’?”

Nice discussion about how it is not the case that a huge amount of people have seen their income decrease and blame Biden. But it is the case that people who hate Biden CLAIM their income has gone down, even if it has not, in order to manipulate the poll.

They were able to use real data and show that an increase or decrease in income has no effect on the Biden approval rating. Income increase/decrease and Biden approval are not correlated.

Republicans blame inflation totally on Biden. A “saner” MAGAt friend (who normally just posts jokes) posted on FB a meme that showed an increase in prices and to remember that when voting this fall. Inflation is real, and for many it has affected their standard of living, because their income has not kept up with the increase in prices. They don’t care about other issues because they don’t think they are affected by them, but those with moderate income and limited wealth are definitely affected by inflation, and normally hold the party in power responsible.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 6:43:02am

re: #170 jeffreyw

Arguments need not be sound to be effective. A lie, oft loudly repeated, can sway more people than God’s own truth.

i agree.

the masses do swallow this nonsense up because it’s easy and they dont have the sniffing out skills

of the pols and pundits on the right side, the majority are not willfully ignorant. i’m more and more convinced they do know exactly what they’re saying most of the time and that it’s bulkshit.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 6:44:58am

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Yeah, let’s just ignore that oil prices are being kept artificially high by oil companies, cartels, and Russia. That filters through to the global economy, and keeps prices higher than they otherwise ought to be.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 6:47:29am

re: #166 darthstar

I think Trump could miss his kid’s graduation after all.

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BadgerB  May 16, 2024 • 6:47:33am

re: #170 jeffreyw

Arguments need not be sound to be effective. A lie, oft loudly repeated, can sway more people than God’s own truth.

It’s all about sincerity, once you can fake that, they will believe anything.

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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2024 • 6:47:48am

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Okie dokie… Three it is!

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Have a good one all!

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 6:49:01am

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Republicans blame inflation totally on Biden. A “saner” MAGAt friend (who normally just posts jokes) posted on FB a meme that showed an increase in prices and to remember that when voting this fall. Inflation is real, and for many it has affected their standard of living, because their income has not kept up with the increase in prices. They don’t care about other issues because they don’t think they are affected by them, but those with moderate income and limited wealth are definitely affected by inflation, and normally hold the party in power responsible.

i’ve said it before and i’ll repeat: i have no patience for single or limited issue voters.

I don’t care about your politics or your political affiliations. It’s not your position or who you vote for that matters. In fact I dont care who you vote for. I care how you decide who to vote for.

how you develop that position, how you make your evaluations and decisions; that is a reflection of your values (or lack of them). The process - the critical thinking, in gathering info, acceptance of what you hear and see, that is more of a window on who you are (and aren’t) than anything else.

If you come to it rationally, with something you can support, then fine. If it’s just ‘your feelings’ or “this is all that matters to me” then i have no time for you.

Politics takes work. It’s not particularly complicated and it’s not reducible to one or three metrics.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 16, 2024 • 6:51:49am

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Okie dokie… Three it is!

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Have a good one all!

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 6:52:42am

re: #177 Dangerman

And also keep in mind that we have not had the major conventions yet. We know who the nominees are and I expect it to get very nasty during the campaign.

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 6:53:03am

As the lengthy sidebar came to an end, Eric Trump leaned over to show Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) something on his phone, and the two laughed from their seats in courtroom.

Wonder who and how old she was?

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2024 • 6:55:44am

re: #160 Dangerman

cnn are idiots

Biden is up against nostalgia for Trump’s first term

this is not nostalgia.
it’s desensitizing with the passage of time

Horseshit!

Covid, a million dead Americans, and $8,000,000,000,000 is his only legacy.

Oh, lest I forget the Insurrection he wanted……

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2024 • 6:58:08am

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Okie dokie… Three it is!

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Is next Monday over yet? I’m tired and really need next Monday to be over.

Have a good one all!

3 here too.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:00:16am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

Horseshit!

Covid, a million dead Americans, and $8,000,000,000,000 is his only legacy.

And what do 74 million brainwashed Jesusbots say when confronted by that?

“Never happened…Fake News…”

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 7:03:32am

Only the best lawyers…

Mastodon

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2024 • 7:04:24am

re: #129 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And I know a bunch of people with college degrees who are every bit as taken up with these viewpoints as those “goobers”. Might have taken a different logical (or illogical) route to get there, but their “go team X” vibe makes them willing recipients of stories and anecdotes that support the viewpoint.

Which soon gets you to the massive pretzel-twisting and both sider-ism since those are necessary in order to make Trump and the bootlicker party the acceptable alternative for their votes.

Being college-educated with good income and a comfortable life-style doesn’t mean you’re not an immigrant*-hating white supremacist.

*immigrants who are not European or (maybe) from western Asia.

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Nojay UK  May 16, 2024 • 7:07:16am

BBC News Online opinion piece by one of their economics commentators, Faisal Islam, is entitled “Could the US economy be doing too well?” complete with a picture of President Biden.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2024 • 7:10:06am

Early Who deep cut.

The Who - London 1966

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 7:11:41am
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Teukka  May 16, 2024 • 7:12:51am

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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 7:13:57am

They can’t get Cohen to break on the stand so they’re going to play tapes of him being animated to show the jury he’s an angry vengeance seeker.

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:17:02am

re: #190 darthstar

TBlanche is playing portions of Cohen’s “Mea Culpa” podcast for the jury, and Cohen sounds wildly different on the podcast — loud, angry — than he has sounded on the witness stand, where he has spoken in calm, measured tones.

One addresses different audiences using different tones of voice.

Except maybe DJT who has nothing but arrogant bluster no matter whom he is addressing.

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 7:20:10am

they’re really scraping the barrel (I won’t say bottom of the barrel, because theirs has no bottom)

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is sitting in the defense section between Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) and Eric Trump.

We have also seen Republican Reps. Bob Good (Va.), Anna Paulina Luna (Fla.), Eli Crane (Ariz.) and Andy Biggs (Ariz.). And that’s just the members of Congress; other allies are here as well.

We were also told to expect Reps. Mike Waltz (Fla.), Diana Harshbarger (Tenn.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Michael Cloud (Tex.) and Andrew Ogles (Tenn.).

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BeenHereAwhile  May 16, 2024 • 7:21:29am

re: #158 Randall Gross

But if you need to wake up fast… then I recommend Life by Louis Cole & friends

Wow!

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2024 • 7:25:14am

Clarence Thomas, of all people, writes the opinion affirming the funding mechanism for the CFPB.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:35:43am

From CNN: The Dow Crosses 40,000 for the 1st time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:36:19am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

When you are at the bottom of society, you get nickled and dimed to death, making it even harder to claw your way out…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:36:45am

re: #195 PhillyPretzel ✅

From CNN: The Dow Crosses 40,000 for the 1st time.

When are going to hear how this is bad news for Biden? We already know that Trump is going to claim credit because he is leading in the polls…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:37:03am

Here we go with another GOP asshole lying about Joe

Donald Trump claimed the president was “jacked up” on cocaine during the widely praised speech, and Rep. Greg Murphy (R-NC) echoed that statement and told Bartiromo that Biden would likely need drugs again to compete against his Republican rival in the upcoming debates.

“I’ll be very plain and simple,” said Murphy, a urologist and chair of the House Doctors Caucus. “I was in the State of the Union and Joe Biden must’ve been jacked up on something, and I absolutely believe that from a medical viewpoint, and I actually have a little bit of good knowledge that it happened. He can’t stand and he can’t stand under the lights for that long, and I don’t think you can keep a concept in his brain for that long.”

“I believe they gave him something to help them sustain the lights and sustain the vigor that he had,” Murphy said, as Bartiromo raised her eyebrows. “That was not Joe Biden. I was in there, he screamed for two hours. He screamed for two hours, and maybe we can talk off-line and I’ll show you something that proves that.”

Bartiromo did a double take, saying, “You’ll show me what?”

Murphy again claimed to have evidence to show Biden had used some type of perfomance-enhancing drugs, and Bartiromo asked whether he was talking about medication.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:37:43am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have no idea. I think it is great news for Joe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:38:28am

re: #199 PhillyPretzel ✅

I hav no idea. I think it is great news for Joe.

If it dips even slightly by November he will be berated for the “massive decline in the Stock Market”…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:39:50am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Stock Market goes up and down all the time. The commodities are even worse. This is good news and I hope it stays that way.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2024 • 7:39:54am

re: #198 Joe Bacon ✅

LOL.

Meanwhile, the ostensible GOP Presidential nominee (and with any luck, soon-to-be convicted felon) is nodding off at his own trial (and if scuttlebutt is to be believed, also losing control of his sphincter).

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2024 • 7:40:34am

re: #178 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Grr.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:40:50am

re: #201 PhillyPretzel ✅

The Stock Market goes up and down all the time. The commodities are even worse. This is good news and I hope it stays that way.

yes, and Trump gets credit for rises, and Biden gets the blame for declines. That is the established way of the world and the Will of God.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2024 • 7:41:53am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

Horseshit!

Covid, a million dead Americans, and $8,000,000,000,000 is his only legacy.

Oh, lest I forget the Insurrection he wanted……

COVID is so yesterday. And his base blames China for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:43:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:43:53am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

COVID is so yesterday. And his base blames China for that.

and as for all those deaths, then blame Fauci and unfriendly Democrat governors…

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 7:44:30am

re: #189 Teukka

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i have one disco and disco adjacent playlist - reasonably good stuff
i listen sometimes. it can be fun. actual nostalgia

but the clothes. no. i beg you. do NOT bring back the clothes

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 7:45:34am

re: #190 darthstar

They can’t get Cohen to break on the stand so they’re going to play tapes of him being animated to show the jury he’s an angry vengeance seeker.

Blanche is playing portions of Cohen’s “Mea Culpa” podcast for the jury, and Cohen sounds wildly different on the podcast — loud, angry — than he has sounded on the witness stand, where he has spoken in calm, measured tones.

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i think it’s called ‘acting’

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 7:46:22am

Beagle. Wordle 1,062 2/6*

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I’ve never used that starting word before, and I may never again.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 7:46:54am

re: #195 PhillyPretzel ✅

From CNN: The Dow Crosses 40,000 for the 1st time.

i remember when it hit 1000
almost unthinkable

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 7:48:03am

Local gas went back below $3.00 this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:48:35am

re: #208 Dangerman

i have one disco and disco adjacent playlist - reasonably good stuff
i listen sometimes. it can be fun. actual nostalgia

but the clothes. no. i beg you. do NOT bring back the clothes

There are a handful of disco-era songs that hold up well, Rubber Band, Disco Inferno and Don’t Leave Me This Way come to mind, but yes, the aesthetic and general ethos are best left to history.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 7:51:10am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a handful of disco-era songs that hold up well, Rubber Band, Disco Inferno and Don’t Leave Me This Way come to mine, but yes, the aesthetic and general ethos are best left to history.

Disco sucks, and I have no idea why that’s blamed on Black musicians.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2024 • 7:52:51am

I’m looking at office chairs on Amazon. Sorting cost from high to low started higher than I expected.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 7:54:56am

re: #215 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Nope. That is too much money. Is there anything in the $100 -$200 range? /half

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 7:55:46am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Disco sucks, and I have no idea why that’s blamed on Black musicians.

SISTER SLEDGE - WE ARE FAMILY (1979) OFFICIAL VIDEO

Nothing wrong with those clothes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:56:35am

re: #216 PhillyPretzel ✅

Nope. That is too much money. Is there anything in the $100 -$200 range? /half

A price like that is designed to be a business expense write-off. Or for Ben Carson’s office at HUD.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 7:56:56am

re: #216 PhillyPretzel ✅

Nope. That is too much money. Is there anything in the $100 -$200 range? /half

Not in fine Corinthian leather.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2024 • 7:57:32am

re: #216 PhillyPretzel ✅

Nope. That is too much money. Is there anything in the $100 -$200 range? /half

I thought I’d go to about page 4 to get down to my price range after sorting from high to low, but that was still $8K+.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:58:05am

re: #217 wrenchwench

Nothing wrong with those clothes.

Sister Sledge could make anything look good. I believe the reference was more to popular fashion.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 7:58:36am

re: #217 wrenchwench

That’s tolerable only because of it’s association with the Steelers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 7:58:39am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Not in fine Corinthian leather.

I know Two Corinthians who can get it for you wholesale…

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 7:58:44am

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Republicans blame inflation totally on Biden. A “saner” MAGAt friend (who normally just posts jokes) posted on FB a meme that showed an increase in prices and to remember that when voting this fall. Inflation is real, and for many it has affected their standard of living, because their income has not kept up with the increase in prices. They don’t care about other issues because they don’t think they are affected by them, but those with moderate income and limited wealth are definitely affected by inflation, and normally hold the party in power responsible.

THat s what is interesting from the full data. Whether people have less money than 2 years ago or have more money or have the same, their opinion of Biden remains the same- about 48% approval. That is the real man bites dog story. Everyone blames Biden the same, even tose not affected by inflation.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2024 • 8:04:03am

re: #224 silverdolphin

THat s what is interesting from the full data. Whether people have less money than 2 years ago or have more money or have the same, their opinion of Biden remains the same- about 48% approval. That is the real man bites dog story. Everyone blames Biden the same, even tose not affected by inflation.

It’s the more than half of respondents going along with the coup attempt instead of ending the Republican party that freaks me out. You have to be a mess to go along with what Trump and the Republicans are doing.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 8:04:15am

re: #222 Decatur Deb

That’s tolerable only because of it’s association with the Steelers.

That song won a Grammy in R&B. They didn’t have a disco category.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 8:05:20am

re: #226 wrenchwench

Didn’t get much air time on WKRP.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:08:54am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a handful of disco-era songs that hold up well, Rubber Band, Disco Inferno and Don’t Leave Me This Way come to mine, but yes, the aesthetic and general ethos are best left to history.

I remember when KROQ goofed endlessly on this…

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 8:11:14am

re: #228 Joe Bacon ✅

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I remember when KROQ goofed endlessly on this…

Up there with Pat Boone’s heavy metal album.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:18:19am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Up there with Pat Boone’s heavy metal album.

Appreciate artists who can spoof themselves.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 8:22:05am

Yesterday, I talked to Mom about her doctor visit. She’s been seeing the same doctor for 20 years. When she did the initial intake, the doctor looked at mom’s answers on the questionnaire, and remarked, ‘Seven children! Where was your common sense?’ Mom liked that. It told her this doctor would be straight up with her and tell her everything. She reminded the doc of that on this visit, and the doctor was very apologetic. She said, ‘I’ve matured since then.’ Mom assured her it was not a bad thing.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 8:22:38am

Blanche is currently cross examining Cohen, and all we know so far is that Cohen has perjured himself in other cases, and is on stand saying as much. We know he’s lied.

What Blanche doesn’t want the jury to know is that he lied to cover for Trump, which will again come out on redirect.

This isn’t going well for the defense, because Cohen has not broken on the stand, perjured himself here, or shown that the prosecution case is somehow undermined.

Cohen criticizing and then congratulating prosecutors isn’t relevant to what Trump said and did. It doesn’t diminish the paperwork corroborated by testimony from all the witnesses in this case.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 8:22:43am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Appreciate artists who can spoof themselves.

Liberace playing Dixie

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:24:04am

And then again, there are artists who make themselves ludicrous without even being aware of it:

Donny & Marie Osmond - “Reelin’ In the Years”

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 8:24:04am

re: #232 lawhawk

I mean, all they have as far as a defense is to try to discredit the witnesses in the eyes of the jury. They lose on the testimony, on the paper trail, on the plain facts, on everything. Their only hope is to try to induce just enough doubt to get a holdout juror.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 8:28:07am

re: #160 Dangerman

More than half, 55%, of all Americans say they see Trump’s presidency as a success.

He brutally mismanaged a pandemic and got over a million people killed. HELLO?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:29:02am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

He brutally mismanaged a pandemic and got millions of people killed. HELLO?!

Those were all weaklings who needed to be culled to strengthen our nation overall…

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 8:29:43am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those were all weaklings who needed to be culled to strengthen our nation overall…

That, or simple indifference because, “It didn’t affect me, no one I knew personally died/got hospitalized, so it’s all just statistics to me.”

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:31:42am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sister Sledge could make anything look good. I believe the reference was more to popular fashion.

it was
meaning the stuff I ‘had’ to wear

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:32:29am

re: #239 Dangerman

it was
meaning the stuff I ‘had’ to wear

I also worke pink wide belled cuffed trousers and high heeled shoes…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:32:46am

This is a hoot. CBS is reporting that VP Kamala Harris accepts CBS News invitation to participate in a VP debate.

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A Cranky One  May 16, 2024 • 8:33:05am

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:33:28am

re: #224 silverdolphin

THat s what is interesting from the full data. Whether people have less money than 2 years ago or have more money or have the same, their opinion of Biden remains the same- about 48% approval. That is the real man bites dog story. Everyone blames Biden the same, even tose not affected by inflation.

they refuse to envision how the country and the world would be inarguably worse if biden didnt win in 2000

it’s like they conveniently forget who the alternative was

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:34:24am

re: #242 A Cranky One

cannot begin to imagine what the child of that union might look like…

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BeenHereAwhile  May 16, 2024 • 8:35:01am

re: #208 Dangerman

i have one disco and disco adjacent playlist - reasonably good stuff
i listen sometimes. it can be fun. actual nostalgia

but the clothes. no. i beg you. do NOT bring back the clothes

Bee Gees - Stayin’ Alive (Official Music Video)

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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2024 • 8:35:18am

re: #167 Joe Bacon ✅

Oh wow! The Dynamic Dimwits are in the Courtroom today!

Klannie Oakley and Matt Gaetz!

talkingpointsmemo.com

Matt is Booger from Revenge of the Nerds.

Booger Best Moments - Revenge Of The Nerds

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William Lewis  May 16, 2024 • 8:35:51am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And then again, there are artists who make themselves ludicrous without even being aware of it:

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Video

My son _RAN_ from the room before I could play this for him LOLOLOLOLOL!

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 8:36:28am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

He brutally mismanaged a pandemic and got over a million people killed. HELLO?!

People seem to have amnesia and long term memory loss, because they seem to completely ignore what actually happened during his stint in the WH - the massive tax grab by billionaires, packing the courts with right wing extremists, the pandemic and collapse of the economy that saw the worst economic conditions since the great depression with massive unemployment, business closures, and supply chain disruptions that resulted from the pandemic worldwide.

States with GOP leadership did far worse during the pandemic, especially after vaccinations became widely available (per capita death rates far exceeded blue states, which were first and hardest hit in the first wave of illnesses when there were no vaccinations, no idea how to adequately treat, and hospitals needed refrigerated trailers to handle the dead).

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:37:44am

re: #232 lawhawk

Blanche is currently cross examining Cohen, and all we know so far is that Cohen has perjured himself in other cases, and is on stand saying as much. We know he’s lied.

What Blanche doesn’t want the jury to know is that he lied to cover for Trump, which will again come out on redirect.

This isn’t going well for the defense, because Cohen has not broken on the stand, perjured himself here, or shown that the prosecution case is somehow undermined.

Cohen criticizing and then congratulating prosecutors isn’t relevant to what Trump said and did. It doesn’t diminish the paperwork corroborated by testimony from all the witnesses in this case.

so after all the hype of the weakest and least likely of the cases, it turns out to be pretty easy to understand and reasonably rock solid on the evidence

huh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:38:49am

re: #247 William Lewis

My son _RAN_ from the room before I could play this for him LOLOLOLOLOL!

I watched it the same way you watch a car wreck…cringing but unable to look away.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 8:38:54am

re: #249 Dangerman

The other cases were just as strong or stronger, but the machinations of the SCOTUS have essentially derailed two and the third was delayed b/c of spurrious and BS claims about the prosecutor Willis.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2024 • 8:39:35am

re: #243 Dangerman

they refuse to envision how the country and the world would be inarguably worse if biden didnt win in 2000

it’s like they conveniently forget who the alternative was

That changes once the conventions are over since the binary option of Trump or Biden is clearly there and not going to miraculously change.

There is also the local industry in a lot of people’s minds manufacturing or seeking reasons to believe that Biden is worse than Trump. I expect to spend time later this year on Facebook ridiculing some people about this to their faces.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:41:06am

re: #252 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

There is also the local industry in a lot of people’s minds manufacturing or seeking reasons to believe that Biden is worse than Trump. I expect to spend time later this year on Facebook ridiculing some people about this to their faces.

I just block or ban people who excessively politicize on my FB feed. I come to places like this if I want a political discussion.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:42:57am

Meanwhile—How much did Gym Shorts Spend on investigating Biden?

rawstory.com

Dem lays into Jim Jordan for spending $20M on hearings to appease ‘MAGA base’

House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Jerry Nadler (D-NY) called out Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH) for trying to appease the “MAGA political base” by spending $20 million on hearings to investigate the Biden administration.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:43:12am

re: #238 Nerdy Fish

That, or simple indifference because, “It didn’t affect me, no one I knew personally died/got hospitalized, so it’s all just statistics to me.”

this exactly

only survivors get to think like that

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:44:09am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And then again, there are artists who make themselves ludicrous without even being aware of it:

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My blood sugar just went up by 100 points…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:46:03am

re: #208 Dangerman

i have one disco and disco adjacent playlist - reasonably good stuff
i listen sometimes. it can be fun. actual nostalgia

but the clothes. no. i beg you. do NOT bring back the clothes

Ah the late 70s when I had half a dozen polyester neon leisure suits in bright red, orange, yellow, green, blue and purple…

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:46:10am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also worke pink wide belled cuffed trousers and high heeled shoes…

huckapoo (before it was a political slur)
denim platform shoes with orange laces

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Charmingly Persistent  May 16, 2024 • 8:46:24am

Bluesky question: does anyone remember how to order the people you are following by when they last posted? I know I’ve done it, but don’t remember how

260
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:47:57am

re: #246 Eventual Carrion

Matt is Booger from Revenge of the Nerds.

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he ‘grew up’ to be a lawyer on The Closer and I never could see him as anything besides Booger

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:51:07am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I watched it the same way you watch a car wreck…cringing but unable to look away.

they worked in a kick line
and roller skates!!

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 8:52:06am

re: #257 Joe Bacon ✅

Ah the late 70s when I had half a dozen polyester neon leisure suits in bright red, orange, yellow, green, blue and purple…

I locked in my fashion in the late 50s. Lenny Bruce was my icon. The thin black ties did migrate a bit to wider, and some solid colors.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 8:53:23am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

I locked in my fashion in the late 50s. Lenny Bruce was my icon. The thin black ties did migrate a bit to wider, and some solid colors.

Memories of those wide wide ties in the 70s and then after Pruneface got in those ties went all the way narrow…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:53:39am

re: #261 Dangerman

they worked in a kick line
and roller skates!!

(I know…all while introducing guest stars Ruth Buzzi, Buddy Hackett and Susanne Summers…)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 16, 2024 • 8:53:54am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just block or ban people who excessively politicize on my FB feed. I come to places like this if I want a political discussion.

It’s going to be my exception to normally trying to be very civil and non-confrontive there with friends and acquaintances.

I think Covid-19 reactions pushed me over the edge with some of them. Some very very self-centered and hyperbolic reactions from being inconvenienced by a pandemic disease outbreak. It carried over into their political statements. Plus they will vote GQP even if they actually do not vote for Trump himself.* The last is one reason I will do this since I want to shove their noses into the fact the GQP is all about brown nosing Trump and embracing the fascism and racism attached to it. And the border between fascists/racists and adjacent to it via party support is very blurry.

* - And I expect a bunch of them will hold their nose and vote Trump anyways due to “reasons” since they do understand that a non-vote or 3rd party vote is a thrown away vote. These are not stupid and illogical people, but dammit are their heads in the wrong places on a great number of issues.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:54:29am

re: #251 lawhawk

The other cases were just as strong or stronger, but the machinations of the SCOTUS have essentially derailed two and the third was delayed b/c of spurrious and BS claims about the prosecutor Willis.

yeah i know all that

im just saying this wasnt the obtuse loser of a cryptic case a lot of people thought it would be

i’d add the prosecution is doing a very credible job

and the defense, well….you get what you pay for that’s willing to bend to your ego-addled tactics

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:55:58am

re: #265 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think Covid-19 reactions pushed me over the edge with some of them. Some very very self-centered and hyperbolic reactions from being inconvenienced by a pandemic disease outbreak.

I recall amending my policy at the start of Covid and posting to remind people to check and verify their sources of Covid Information before spreading them to make sure that they are reliable and serious.

Some of the responses I got to that amazed me.

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Romantic Heretic  May 16, 2024 • 8:56:01am

re: #116 Targetpractice

I love the looks I get from people when I say that inflation is a diagnostic measurement, like body temperature. Neither is a problem, but can be an indicator of a problem.

If I’m lucky they perform a complete Norman.

Capt. Kirk talks a robot to death

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 8:58:22am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just block or ban people who excessively politicize on my FB feed. I come to places like this if I want a political discussion.

you were soooo close…

Argument - Monty Python

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 8:59:19am

re: #269 Dangerman

you were soooo close…

no I wasn’t

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:01:31am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

I locked in my fashion in the late 50s. Lenny Bruce was my icon. The thin black ties did migrate a bit to wider, and some solid colors.

my fashion sense solidified in my 40’s (the late 90’s), ironically when it no longer mattered what i wore

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:04:34am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no I wasn’t

i laughed.
out loud.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:05:22am

re: #272 Dangerman

i laughed.
out loud.

no you didn’t

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 9:05:32am

I’ve been dressing like a bike mechanic since high school.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 16, 2024 • 9:08:11am

Jeans. Before, during and after the disco era. Of course, I did have to wear skirts to work sometimes — it was that kind of a time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:08:21am

re: #271 Dangerman

my fashion sense solidified in my 40’s (the late 90’s), ironically when it no longer mattered what i wore

I recall one of my more fashion-oriented friends (who later came out gay) telling me on New Year’s Eve 1979 that “In five minutes your hairstyle will be two decades out of fashion!

That made me somewhat self-conscious, I trimmed back my shoulder length hair and lost a lot of my flannels and denim bells, etc…only to find out that I was a decade ahead of fashion when Grunge became the thing.

I have since learned to mine own self to be true

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 9:08:24am

Isn’t it comforting to know that Ms. Yank That Crank didn’t attend her son’s latest hearing but she’s sure to be in the courtroom with…

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 16, 2024 • 9:09:50am

re: #189 Teukka

[Embedded content]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:11:18am

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

The Eurovision Zone will have to expand in order to counter that move.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:11:18am

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Reason enough to arm Ukraine.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 9:11:19am

Oh wow!

Now Jeff Clark has shown up in the courthouse! AND he’s live-tweeting the trial!

Could John Eastman be next?

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2024 • 9:13:16am

re: #281 Joe Bacon ✅

Oh wow!

Now Jeff Clark has shown up in the courthouse! AND he’s live-tweeting the trial!

Could John Eastman be next?

talkingpointsmemo.com

I’m sure he’s giving a very objective overview of everything.

283
Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 9:13:48am

Ted Lieu smacks down Gym Shorts!

Ted Lieu blasts stupidity of Jim Jordan’s hearing

284
DodgerFan1988  May 16, 2024 • 9:13:53am
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JC1  May 16, 2024 • 9:14:14am

3/6. Thought that I had it in 2.

Wordle 1,062 3/6

🟩🟨🟩⬛🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 9:15:20am

re: #248 lawhawk

People seem to have amnesia and long term memory loss, because they seem to completely ignore what actually happened during his stint in the WH - the massive tax grab by billionaires, packing the courts with right wing extremists, the pandemic and collapse of the economy that saw the worst economic conditions since the great depression with massive unemployment, business closures, and supply chain disruptions that resulted from the pandemic worldwide.

No, they don’t have any kind of clinical issue, they just literally believe that problems can only come from people they’re already inclined to dislike.

And not-understanding that tax cuts for the wealthy create crisis for everyone else is just…normal American political orientation. We’re culturally conditioned to view wealth as meritocratic and earned, and we’ve undermined all the cultural institutions that create solidarity to lower classes because it’s more comfortable to view devalued labor as a natural and just outcome such that you can just reap the savings.

Americans aggressively refuse to understand that the economy is an interconnected phenomenon that ties us to the rest of the world…largely because it’s uncomfortable to accurately observe that our lifestyles are subsidized by the poverty and unfreedom of places that produce commodities and goods we depend on, whether that’s a coltan mine in the Congo or a meat-packing factory in Idaho. Now that the subsidy doesn’t give enough surplus people view themselves not as victimized by the people at the top that actually accrue more value, but from the people at the bottom that they feel are over-valued.

It’s terminal empire brain; to live well includes the entitlement to not-think about the people the live less well. They’re no more bothered by a million dead Americans who, axiomatically, weren’t valuable because they were likely poor, old, and a stranger, than a Frenchman in the mid-20th century would be bothered by starving and sick people in Vietnam.

States with GOP leadership did far worse during the pandemic, especially after vaccinations became widely available (per capita death rates far exceeded blue states, which were first and hardest hit in the first wave of illnesses when there were no vaccinations, no idea how to adequately treat, and hospitals needed refrigerated trailers to handle the dead).

But this requires paying attention to actual phenomena, and that’s contradictory to the unstated but load-bearing entitlement to not care.

An immediate American response to COVID was to view is as eugenic: it will kill minorities and that’s acceptable; it will kill old people and that’s acceptable; it will kill stupid people that don’t do hygiene and that’s acceptable. A secondary response was to designate who must take how much risk to maintain normal functioning, which including a calculus of what jobs must face how much exposure without liability triggering: this was not a utilitarian math but a sorting of who could be exposed with impunity because neither society, nor law, would impose penalties…which is why a disproportionate number of Filipino care workers and Central American meat packers died…not just because their work was “essential” but because their work was within a zone of uncaring.

The post-COVID backlash has been a reaction in which that right to not care has been enshrined as a virtue rather than implicitly understood as an entitlement—not caring is the correct, truly American way of interacting with the world, it should have informed our reaction to the pandemic—such that the attempt to make people act in collective self-interest is both an attack and the actual cause of the COVID crisis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:16:06am

re: #284 DodgerFan1988

Police went to the wrong apartment & now US Senior Airman Roger Fortson is dead, why does no one seem to care?

Especially as a major argument for gun ownership is to be able to use them to protect and defend your own home.

He answered the door with a gun in his hand (as he had no idea if the person on the other side of the door identifying himself as such was really a policeman or not) and paid for that with his life.

We all know why he died.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:19:02am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

FIL in Kentucky used to do that. One night he answered a state trooper who was looking for FIL’s tenant, but he kept the gun behind his back. I have no doubt he’d have been shot if he was displaying.

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William Lewis  May 16, 2024 • 9:21:54am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Especially as a major argument for gun ownership is to be able to use them to protect and defend your own home.

He answered the door with a gun in his hand (as he had no idea if the person on the other side of the door identifying himself as such was really a policeman or not) and paid for that with his life.

We all know why he died.

He was a black man who made the same mistake Castile did - he thought the 2nd amendment applied to him. Non-whites do not have Constitutional rights unless the cop/judge/prosecutor is in a good mood.

290
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:26:57am

re: #288 Decatur Deb

FIL in Kentucky used to do that. One night he answered a state trooper who was looking for FIL’s tenant, but he kept the gun behind his back. I have no doubt he’d have been shot if he was displaying.

if the police think merely holding a gun (let alone drawing or aiming) is such a dire threat to their personal safety that it’s worthy of a use of force response, why are they ok with everyone having a gun?

291
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:27:52am

re: #289 William Lewis

Protip:
If you’re sure you need a gun to answer the door, DON’T ANSWER THE DOOR.

292
Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 9:31:04am

re: #291 Decatur Deb

Protip:
If you’re sure you need a gun to answer the door, DON’T ANSWER THE DOOR.

Well the cops aren’t gonna leave just because you don’t answer the door.

293
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:31:07am

re: #290 Dangerman

if the police think merely holding a gun (let alone drawing or aiming) is such a dire threat to their personal safety that it’s worthy of a use of force response, why are they ok with everyone having a gun?

“An armed society is a polite society.”

“If more people were armed, bd guys would be too afraid to commit crimes.”

“Moar gunz are good!”

294
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:31:46am

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

Well the cops aren’t gonna leave just because you don’t answer the door.

No, but you can communicate through it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:32:29am

re: #294 Decatur Deb

No, but you can communicate through it.

They can put their badge through the mail slot…

296
Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 9:32:41am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That second one pisses me off so much.

If more people are armed, it makes it much more difficult TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE BAD GUYS ARE.

297
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:33:56am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They can put their badge through the mail slot…

You can call 911.

298
Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 9:34:56am
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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:35:13am

re: #283 Joe Bacon ✅

Ted Lieu smacks down Gym Shorts!

[Embedded content]

Video

how you know they’re on top of this urgent and critical issue:

The House Oversight Committee pushed back their Merrick Garland contempt markup to 8 p.m. tomorrow so Republican lawmakers have time to attend Donald Trump’s trial in New York City, CNN reports.

300
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:36:07am

re: #291 Decatur Deb

Protip:
If you’re sure you need a gun to answer the door, DON’T ANSWER THE DOOR.

ps - your door wont protect you

301
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:36:46am

re: #300 Dangerman

ps - your door wont protect you

Neither will your piece.

302
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:37:29am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

That second one pisses me off so much.

If more people are armed, it makes it much more difficult TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE BAD GUYS ARE.

plus these events are taking place in people’s ‘castles’, where the aggressor is the LEOs

303
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 9:39:03am

re: #302 Dangerman

plus these events are taking place in people’s ‘castles’, where the aggressor is the LEOs

From reports, the cop was misdirected to the apartment, with information that domestic violence was underway.

304
jeffreyw  May 16, 2024 • 9:39:24am

The Existence of Trains Debate

#PoliCartoon
#Climate
#ClimateChange
#GlobalWarming

Barry Deutsch (@barrydeutsch.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T15:56:56.884Z

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:48:59am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

this is New York
these nit-wits are outgunned.

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TedStriker  May 16, 2024 • 9:49:57am

re: #189 Teukka

[Embedded content]

You will survive…

///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 9:51:13am

re: #306 TedStriker

You will survive…

///

Because we are family.

Just don’t leave me this way.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:52:38am

re: #303 Decatur Deb

From reports, the cop was misdirected to the apartment, with information that domestic violence was underway.

warrants
no knock warrants
911 calls
anonymous tips
swatting
etc

i think this has happened enough over a long enough period of time that by now police should be extra sure they are in the right place before they misapply force at the wrong location and to the wrong people

309
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 9:56:07am

how you know the defense case is not going well:

there is no news

eta: word jumble

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 9:57:55am

re: #308 Dangerman

warrants
no knock warrants
911 calls
anonymous tips
swatting
etc

i think this has happened enough over a long enough period of time that by now police should be extra sure they are in the right place before they misapply force at the wrong location and to the wrong people

Domestic violence calls are about the most common way for a cop to get killed, so, what you said times 100.

311
jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 9:58:30am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Reason enough to arm Ukraine.

We’d better hustle.

312
darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 10:02:32am

re: #195 PhillyPretzel ✅

From CNN: The Dow Crosses 40,000 for the 1st time.

TRUMP TRIAL DRIVES DOW ABOVE 40,000!

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 10:05:35am

re: #312 darthstar

I am not a finance person but I do not think that is what drove the market to a record high.

314
lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 10:06:19am

re: #309 Dangerman

how you know the defense case is not going well:

there is no news

eta: word jumble

When the krazed klown koven from Congress comes to town to show “support” and they barely register in the news, you know it’s bad for Trump.

315
Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2024 • 10:06:45am

re: #215 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I’m looking at office chairs on Amazon. Sorting cost from high to low started higher than I expected.

[Embedded content]

For that price that chair should literally fly.

316
jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:08:03am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

I think it was $1,000 for the chair and $31,000 for the ugly.

317
Decatur Deb  May 16, 2024 • 10:11:57am

re: #314 lawhawk

When the krazed klown koven from Congress comes to town to show “support” and they barely register in the news, you know it’s bad for Trump.

Outside agitators.

318
Lancelot Link Returns!  May 16, 2024 • 10:11:57am

Now y’all gone and done it

SYLVESTER - You Make Me Feel 1979

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 10:15:38am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

Outside agitators.

sewer alligators

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:21:17am
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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:22:43am

Via @stevebenen:

Quite a quote from Eric Swalwell on the parade of GOP members attending #TrumpTrial this morning:

“I don’t think that anything could animate the phrase ‘do-nothing Congress’ more than missing votes and canceling hearings to go up and be a spectator at your cult leader’s trial.”

322
Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 10:23:26am
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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 10:24:02am

re: #321 jaunte

Via @stevebenen:

45 seconds!!

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:24:23am

Via Kyle Griffin:

Ex-Trump DOJ official Jeffrey Clark — the lawyer central to Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election — has been spotted in the overflow room at Trump’s criminal trial #TrumpTrial

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:25:04am

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here.”

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Lancelot Link Returns!  May 16, 2024 • 10:25:39am
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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2024 • 10:29:59am

This little disco medley is straight from the bowels of Hell.

Enjoy.

Black Arabs - Anarchy In The U.K./God Save The Queen/Pretty Vacant/No One Is Innocent (Medley)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 10:34:13am

re: #324 jaunte

The fat orange bastard has turned his criminal trial into a Reality TV competition.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 10:36:51am

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

The fat orange bastard has turned his criminal trial into a Reality TV competition.

The only winning move is not to play

330
Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2024 • 10:37:44am

Nothing to see here, just an average New Yorker getting off his bike to beat up and kick a Jewish kid, then calmly get back on his bike and pedal away like nothing happened.


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