Feds Foil Plot to Destroy All Fannie Mae Data

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Authorities have foiled a plot by a fired contract worker who planted a virus that would have wiped out all of Fannie Mae’s records.

URBANA, Md. (AP) — The Justice Department says it foiled a plot by a fired Fannie Mae contract worker in Maryland to destroy all the data on the mortgage giant’s 4,000 computer servers nationwide.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office says 35-year-old Rajendrasinh Makwana, of Glen Allen, Va., is scheduled for arraignment Friday in U.S. District Court in Baltimore on one count of computer intrusion.

U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein says Makwana was fired Oct. 24. Rosenstein says that on that day, Makwana programmed a computer with a malicious code that was set to spread throughout the Fannie Mae network and destroy all data this Saturday.

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249 comments
1 NYCHardhat  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:03:16pm

Fucking Democrats.

2 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:09pm

Question the timing.

3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:26pm

Curses! I guess I’ll have to pay my mortgage after all.
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4 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:28pm

Change ?

5 mbruce  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:48pm

Barney, Chris and the One must be protected from the truth at all costs!

6 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:05:28pm
7 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:05:36pm

Who was he trying to protect?

Who benefits?

Questions remain.

What connection does he have to Rahm and Raytheon?

Why would Bush and Cheney poison Steve Jobs?

8 Jack Burton  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:01pm

“And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling Feds.”

Obama orders the DoJ to drop this in 5… 4… 3… 2…

9 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:08pm

Thank God for the FBI. If that had happened, we would be looking at a full-scale economic meltdown. Also, the hacker was from India. I wonder what his religion is? My guess: Starts with an I, ends in a ‘slam’.

10 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:17pm

Rajendrasinh Makwana? Didn’t he play wing for the Detroit Red Wings?

11 doppelganglander  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:25pm

Was he just a bitter ex-employee, or did someone pay him to do it?

/tinfoil hat off

12 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:28pm

Not surprising. The Demorats culture of corruption continues.

13 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:37pm

Fannie Mae data is now doctored conspiracy theory coming in 5..4..3..2..1..

14 FrogMarch  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:07:08pm

Dang!


/Barney Frank - economic illiterate extraordinaire.

15 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:07:50pm

I for one am impressed.

Who knew Bwaney Fwank could write code?

Not I…

16 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:00pm

Rule 1 of security when people are getting laid off:
1) Disable their accounts while they are being informed that they’re being let go.

I don’t think anyplace I worked did that, though. On the other hand, even if I was upset at the place (and there was one company that I was upset at), I never did anything like that.
(I did delete data - but the COPIES I had on my personal equipment for various reasons, and I was required to do that. In fact, one boss watched me delete it just to be sure; they had let me take my own machine in to the office.)

17 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:04pm

They will attempt to control the future by controlling the past. The model of Islam is instructive. Bernard Lewis pointed out that Islam scrubs the historical record clean. After a few generations Iranians didn’t even have the traditional names in their memories.

18 Soona'  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:22pm

re: #7 Ben Hur

Who was he trying to protect?

Who benefits?

Questions remain.

What connection does he have to Rahm and Raytheon?

Why would Bush and Cheney poison Steve Jobs?

Who put the bop in the bopshabopshabop.
/in a good mood today

19 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:40pm

This could go either way:

1) Disgruntled employee acting on his own

2) Disgruntled employee doing some Democratic plumbing.

20 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:42pm

Charles:

You might want to look at how the progressives (ha) are looking at the Michael Steel win:
This links to kos…you have been warned.

21 maddogg  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:51pm

Dodged a bullet with that one. How else would Obama know whose house to pay for ? Hell, he might waste taxpayer dollars paying for a Republican’s house ferchrisake.

22 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:08pm

Stinky works for the DOJ too?

23 Racer X  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:16pm
Makwana programmed a computer with a malicious code that was set to spread throughout the Fannie Mae network and destroy all data this Saturday.


Tomorrow?

They may want to postpone the celebrations.

24 ornery elephant  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:18pm

Are we SURE this wasn’t Sandy Berger?! hahahaha

25 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:10:00pm

re: #11 doppelganglander

Was he just a bitter ex-employee, or did someone pay him to do it?

/tinfoil hat off

It could have been a contract job, actually. There are a lot of people who would love to see an economic disaster in the country. We should know more in a few days.

26 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:10:07pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Question the timing.

No shit. The Democrats are up to their necks in Fannie/Freddie corruption and it would have been extremely convenient if all the evidence went ::poof::…

27 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:10:13pm

re: #19 FurryOldGuyJeans

This could go either way:

1) Disgruntled employee acting on his own

2) Disgruntled employee doing some Democratic plumbing.

I choose #2.

28 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:10:22pm

Other than this little snafu, Raj was a good programmer.

/

29 vapig  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:06pm

I don’t get it - if he’s a disgruntled ex-employee I’d have thought he’d want their crooked corruption uncovered.

30 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:31pm

re: #20 Typicalwhitey

Charles:

You might want to look at how the progressives (ha) are looking at the Michael Steel win:
This links to kos…you have been warned.

Lemme guess, tired and unimaginative variations on “Uncle Tom” and “Oreo”?

31 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:32pm

re: #23 Racer X

Tomorrow?

They may want to postpone the celebrations.

I’m hoping they’ve backed up the drive(s), and don’t run the code if rebuild is needed.

32 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:59pm

ha ha ha, i’m sure it was just sloppiness or a minor mistake.
to remove evidence of yrs. of thieving and graft.

33 Truth Stick  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:05pm

when I read this story, I couldn’t help but think of the movie office space, I wonder if he stole the printer too

34 Soona'  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:14pm

re: #19 FurryOldGuyJeans

This could go either way:

1) Disgruntled employee acting on his own

2) Disgruntled employee doing some Democratic plumbing.

Probably some mid-managment guy that didn’t get the same sweet deal Chris Dodd did.

35 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:25pm

Funny — two weeks ago I got to take part in a CIRT (Computer Incident Response Team) training session which goes over things like this and how a company handles it when it happens. Although most of it dealt with computers being attacked externally via servers, they also reviewed malicious attacks internally from disgruntled employees. Had two guys from IBM who had some hair-raising stories to tell, and one Special Agent from the a big city FBI Cyber Crimes Unit who sat through the entire presentation and didn’t utter a word. The Fannie Mae guy must be a bumbler — there’s a lot easier ways to wipe out all the data other than introducing a virus, but he was probably planning on not getting caught. If he was a really disenchanted employee and didn’t give a rip, that data would have been blasted. Wonder who paid him, and how much?

36 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:40pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Thank God for the FBI. If that had happened, we would be looking at a full-scale economic meltdown. Also, the hacker was from India. I wonder what his religion is? My guess: Starts with an I, ends in a ‘slam’.


Um, don’t tell me. Wait it’s………..Damn I almost had it.
The MSM will never report it if the guy is Muslim.

37 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:41pm

How much did this guy get paid by Howard Raines? Oh yeah, he was a “rogue” employee.

Sure.

38 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:41pm

re: #30 Spiny Norman

Lemme guess, tired and unimaginative variations on “Uncle Tom” and “Oreo”?


Not only that but they are excusing it!

39 AuntAcid  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:48pm

TGIF
DOW -148.15-1.82%
8,000.86
NASDAQ -31.42-2.08%
1,476.42
S&P 500 -19.26-2.28%
825.88

40 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:13:11pm
41 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:13:14pm

re: #26 Spiny Norman

if all the evidence went ::poof::…

I think it’s way too early to blame Barney Frank like that.

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42 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:13:32pm

re: #29 vapig

I don’t get it - if he’s a disgruntled ex-employee I’d have thought he’d want their crooked corruption uncovered.

Oh, that “disgruntled ex-employee ex-contract worker is just a front, a levek of “plausible deniability”, you see?

This making it up as you go conspiracy stuff is kinda fun…

43 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:13:48pm

re: #32 nyc redneck

ha ha ha, i’m sure it was just sloppiness or a minor mistake.
to remove evidence of yrs. of thieving and graft.

So you think he’s from Chicago, then?

/sarc

44 turn  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:04pm

re: #24 ornery elephant

Are we SURE this wasn’t Sandy Berger?! hahahaha

Will we ever know what he stuffed down his pants? I’m guessing it was evidence of Clinton’s awareness of a potential terrorist plot to attack us and him having done nothing about it. Anyone?

45 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:06pm

re: #40 taxfreekiller

Of note on computers.

If you turn off the power they do not execute code.

I’m afraid I can’t let you do that, Dave.

46 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:08pm

The guy was a “rogue” employee who just by chance wanted to destroy all the evidence that would have incriminated all the upper management.

Mmmm Hmmm….

47 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:11pm

Aw gee, wonder who hired the fired guy to do the job.

48 turn  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:22pm

re: #30 Spiny Norman

Token

49 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:22pm

I hope Fannie and Freddie use Mac.

And I say 2 words: Time Machine

50 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:25pm

So now Barney Frank is the first politician ever to be involved in two different scandals with the words “Fannie” and “Hot Bottom” in their respective “titles”.

51 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:07pm

re: #41 Occasional Reader

re: #26 Spiny Norman

if all the evidence went ::poof::…

I think it’s way too early to blame Barney Frank like that.

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Oh, double ding for that one. Shame on me for not seeing it myself…

52 maddogg  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:07pm

re: #30 Spiny Norman

Lemme guess, tired and unimaginative variations on “Uncle Tom” and “Oreo”?

If they werent fucktards they wouldn’t be liberals.

53 ornery elephant  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:15pm

re: #39 AuntAcid

TGIF
DOW -148.15-1.82%
8,000.86
NASDAQ -31.42-2.08%
1,476.42
S&P 500 -19.26-2.28%
825.88

Does this mean Wall Street isn’t enamored with the Obama-Lenin Fiscal Centralization Jihad bill ?

54 bulwrk  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:33pm

Has this guy ever dated Barney Frank?

55 redheadredstate  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:48pm

Not to go all Oliver Stone or anything but I sense that this is a put up job. I’ve been angry for months that the Repubs didn’t have the cojones to SCREAM OUT that the whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac thing was a Dem boondoggle from the start. If they would have manned up more and grew a pair then we wouldn’t have the Obamanation in the WH. Too many people have been focusing on the Blaggo thing for exposing Dem corruption. I say there’s more red meat in this story than Bloggo’s. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire and I am smelling smoke.

56 stuiec  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:48pm

A guy in the City of San Francisco’s IT department did something similar when he was separated from employment: he changed the password for all network administrative functions. Even after they arrested him, he made them sweat for a few more days before giving it up.

57 ConservatismNOW!  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:06pm

re: #29 vapig

I don’t get it - if he’s a disgruntled ex-employee I’d have thought he’d want their crooked corruption uncovered.

Remember what Alfred said in Dark Knight. “Some people just want to watch the world burn.” He probably didn’t care about the corruption and just wanted to get back at his former company.

58 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:40pm

re: #54 bulwrk

Has this guy ever dated Barney Frank?

I’m not telling.

59 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:02pm

re: #36 opnion

Um, don’t tell me. Wait it’s………..Damn I almost had it.
The MSM will never report it if the guy is Muslim.

No, they won’t. What a good thing we here don’t rely on the MSM for our news. If he is a Muslim, that is very relevant to his motive and it might lead to other terrorists further up the chain.

60 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:08pm

re: #16 Kosh’s Shadow

You said it, KS. The last thing I always did when leaving a job was to delete all of my own data off the system, along with any backups. Which makes me wonder who was doing the number on the backups of the Fannie Mae data while this guy was taking down the live data? Or had he not planned for backups? I expect that data is replicated both on-site and off — or it damn well should be.

61 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:20pm
Rajendrasinh B. Makwana

“It’s spelled exactly like it sounds.”

-Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

62 ted  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:37pm

I’m smelling Watergate.

63 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:17:49pm

Maybe this was really a scheme like in Office Space, and Raj was just going to siphon off the partial penny of interest into his private account?

64 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:18:06pm

re: #56 stuiec

A guy in the City of San Francisco’s IT department did something similar when he was separated from employment: he changed the password for all network administrative functions. Even after they arrested him, he made them sweat for a few more days before giving it up.

Now see, that’s actually kinda funny in retrospect, and not maliciously destructive.

;^)

65 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:11pm

There are a couple of loans I would like wiped off the books. I wonder if this guy is out on bail?

66 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:59pm

re: #60 tankascribe

You said it, KS. The last thing I always did when leaving a job was to delete all of my own data off the system, along with any backups.

Uh, company data or personal data?

67 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:21pm

re: #65 Nevergiveup

There are a couple of loans I would like wiped off the books. I wonder if this guy is out on bail?

Nah, he already got caught. Now someone miore efficient! Now we’re talkin.

68 AuntAcid  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:24pm

re: #57 ConservatismNOW!

Remember what Alfred said in Dark Knight. “Some people just want to watch the world burn.” He probably didn’t care about the corruption and just wanted to get back at his former company.

The lesson here is you just can’t fire IT guys, you must kill them.

69 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:35pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

No, they won’t. What a good thing we here don’t rely on the MSM for our news. If he is a Muslim, that is very relevant to his motive and it might lead to other terrorists further up the chain.

his name sounds more indian, than moslem.

70 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:42pm

re: #56 stuiec

The worst screw-up we had at my company was done by a guy who thought he knew what he was doing and just went ahead and did it. Refused to admit he’d done anything wrong even as he was shown the door. Two years later we’re still coming across stuff the guy got into and changed around, which forced me to put change control around stuff I never would have thought of protecting that way before (i.e., we all get alerted when somebody changes anything in said items, so it had better be legit).

71 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:20:57pm

re: #61 Occasional Reader

“It’s spelled exactly like it sounds.”

-Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

Oh shit, I’m a butter head.

72 Soona'  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:21:00pm

re: #65 Nevergiveup

There are a couple of loans I would like wiped off the books. I wonder if this guy is out on bail?

Yeah. I wonder if we could put in a good word for him at Citi Bank.

73 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:21:44pm

re: #35 tankascribe

Funny — two weeks ago I got to take part in a CIRT (Computer Incident Response Team) training session which goes over things like this and how a company handles it when it happens. Although most of it dealt with computers being attacked externally via servers, they also reviewed malicious attacks internally from disgruntled employees. Had two guys from IBM who had some hair-raising stories to tell, and one Special Agent from the a big city FBI Cyber Crimes Unit who sat through the entire presentation and didn’t utter a word. The Fannie Mae guy must be a bumbler — there’s a lot easier ways to wipe out all the data other than introducing a virus, but he was probably planning on not getting caught. If he was a really disenchanted employee and didn’t give a rip, that data would have been blasted. Wonder who paid him, and how much?

It was a very crude method; he edited some scripts putting in blank lines to hide the malicious code at the end.

A while ago, I took a SANS security course that had an FBI agent talk about her work. They couldn’t get a hacker to show up, though.

74 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #69 nyc redneck

his name sounds more indian, than moslem.

The artical said he was a resident of India

75 ConservatismNow!  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:22:34pm

re: #64 Spiny Norman

Now see, that’s actually kinda funny in retrospect, and not maliciously destructive.

;^)

I burst out laughing when I saw that. Just shows you that the IT security for the City of San Francisco is terrible. One guy can bring down the entire network? Pathetic. Though I do feel for the help desk support who was left behind to clean up the mess. Poor guys.

76 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:23:10pm

re: #69 nyc redneck

his name sounds more indian, than moslem.

India has more than 160 million Muslims. Many of them have Indian names.

77 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:23:59pm

re: #66 Globular Cluster

Personal data, ‘natch! Wouldn’t dream of touching company data, although my security clearance would permit me to wreck havoc if I chose to. But I much prefer staying employed and getting paid! I just like leaving a clean “desk” when I move on, that’s all.

78 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:02pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

India has more than 160 million Muslims. Many of them have Indian names.

That can be proven using Nirth Certifikats, too.
/

79 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:10pm

re: #69 nyc redneck

his name sounds more indian, than moslem.

Er… one can of course be Indian AND Muslim. But I agree that the name probably suggests he is not the latter.

80 Soona'  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:23pm

re: #74 DeafDog

The artical said he was a resident of India

So Fannie’s been outsourcing.

81 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:33pm

re: #53 ornery elephant

Does this mean Wall Street isn’t enamored with the Obama-Lenin Fiscal Centralization Jihad bill ?

Looks like the House passage of the latest pork bill has been nothing but a depressant for investors.

But boy the media sure is having fun blaming this all on Bush.

82 smalyshev  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:51pm

1. It wasn’t a virus (i.e. replicating code), it was just a piece of code (script) that was supposed to run on multiple systems (they have facility to run certain code on multiple systems) in certain time. So there was most probably no any “ingenuity” or any special skill involved that usually required for writing viruses. He probably just entered command like “wipe all at this date” to administrative application and that’s it. It is usually pretty easy to do this kind of damage for anyone having administrative access to the system.
2. They have backups, so it wouldn’t really destroy the data - though it probably would paralyze all the work for a week or more, while the servers are restored to working condition (they have a lot of them).

83 Catttt  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:54pm

Somebody set us up the bomb!

Youtube Video
84 oh_dude  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:24:55pm
on high-speed computers called servers that are connected to multiple network users.

Ooo! Thanx for the clarification. I thought they were talking about waiters and waitresses. (Who is this written for?)

85 RaiderDan  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:09pm

#63. DeafDog.

Dammit. You beat me to the “Office Space” reference.

Actually, this kinda sounds like the plot of Die Hard 4 (AKA Live Free or Die Hard)

Typical FBI, hogging the news release. We all know it was John McClane of the NYPD who was onto Raj first!

Thomas Gabriel: You know, John, I feel like we’ve gotten off on the wrong foot. And because of that, you think I’m the bad guy. Nothing could be further from the truth. I’m the good guy here. I told them this could happen if they didn’t prepare. Did I get a “Thank you”? No, I got crucified. But, they wouldn’t listen.
John McClane: You got their attention now, don’t you?
Thomas Gabriel: That’s right. I am doing the country a favor.
John McClane: By tearing it apart?
Thomas Gabriel: Better me than some outsider. Some religious nut job bent on Armageddon. Nobody wants to see that happen. Everything I’ve broken can be fixed if the country is willing to pay for it.
John McClane: Ah, bullshit. It’s always been about the money.

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:14pm

re: #74 DeafDog

The artical said he was a resident of India

Which means exactly diddly since there is a sizable Muslim population in India.

87 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:18pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

India has more than 160 million Muslims. Many of them have Indian names.

Revised: the correct number is 108 million Muslims.

88 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:42pm

re: #73 Kosh’s Shadow

Wow, that is crude — and I hardly know anything about writing code! While our FBI agent didn’t speak, the tales the two IBM guys told were enough to curl your hair. Could have listened to them for hours…

89 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:17pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

India has more than 160 million Muslims. Many of them have Indian names.

Revised: the correct number is 108 million Muslims.

omigod GENOCIDE! ! !

//

90 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:18pm

This is clearly a put up job by the criminal mastermind Barney Frank.
‘Now wissin up Wajidasinh. go to Fannie Slurp!. get yosewf into the compweter Slup , spit. Ewase evweting, espeshy about me & pwenty of money for you.”

91 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:22pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Revised: the correct number is 108 million Muslims.

180, 108. Still a lot of potential stealth Jihadis.

92 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:27:24pm

re: #80 Soona’

So Fannie’s been outsourcing.

More like using H1B visa residents, like everyone else.

93 turn  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:27:34pm

re: #90 opnion

This is clearly a put up job by the criminal mastermind Barney Frank.
‘Now wissin up Wajidasinh. go to Fannie Slurp!. get yosewf into the compweter Slup , spit. Ewase evweting, espeshy about me & pwenty of money for you.”

LOL. I could practically see his face when I read that!

94 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:00pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Revised: the correct number is 108 million Muslims.

107,999,994.
I know a family that moved here from India, and converted FROM Islam because of the Mumbai incident.

95 steve  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:22pm

re: #68 AuntAcid

The lesson here is you just can’t fire IT guys, you must kill them.

No, waterboard them first to make sure that you get all the info. Then kill them.

96 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:41pm

re: #93 turn

LOL. I could practically see his face when I read that!

The problem for me was Bawney WAS on the tube (news) when I read that. Nightmares for weeks!

97 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:29:27pm

re: #94 jwb7605

107,999,994.
I know a family that moved here from India, and converted FROM Islam because of the Mumbai incident.

Some people engaging their brains finally, eh?

98 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:29:43pm

From the article:

An affidavit states he was fired for erroneously writing programming instructions two weeks earlier that changed the settings on high-speed computers called servers that are connected to multiple network users.

Cringe.

99 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:29:45pm

re: #93 turn

LOL. I could practically see his face when I read that!

Oh he did it. I’ll be on Oprah with the truth , right after my book deal.

100 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:06pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Er… one can of course be Indian AND Muslim. But I agree that the name probably suggests he is not the latter.

i’ve met quite afew moslems from india (many work in and own indian restaurants). i can’t think of any who don’t have islamic sounding names.
same true for chinese people from indonesia. name changes for converts are standard practice for even western people. most do it.

101 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:18pm

re: #95 steve

No, waterboard them first to make sure that you get all the info. Then kill them.

Fry their mother board!

102 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:27pm

Many good things come from India.

103 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:34pm

They got sum High Speed ‘puterz in that there company!

104 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:01pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Many good things come from India.

PADEMA!

105 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:46pm

re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans

Which means exactly diddly since there is a sizable Muslim population in India.

True. I checked with a couple of Indians at the office. They said his name is 99% for sure Hindu - 1% chance of Sikh. No way he’s a muslim. They can tell by his name.

106 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:47pm

re: #94 jwb7605

107,999,994.
I know a family that moved here from India, and converted FROM Islam because of the Mumbai incident.

For real?

107 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:31:53pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Many good things come from India.

Yes, I know that’s not her.

Padema is in the top5 IN THE WORLD!

108 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:11pm

re: #97 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some people engaging their brains finally, eh?

It’s a case of getting sickened of the image their religion has become in the eyes of the world.
I hope more do it. I don’t care what they convert to.

109 Catttt  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:23pm

Dumb Luck Saves Fannie (idea stolen from The Escapist)

Actually, I prefer to think of it as synchronicity that saved Fannie.

110 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:28pm

re: #104 Ben Hur

PADEMA!

If you mean “Padma”… yeah, her too. (But that’s Aishwarya, whose name I may have even spelled correctly)

111 freetoken  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:50pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Yes, Gold Lamé has been an important addition in the history of human textiles….

112 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:59pm

re: #107 Ben Hur

Yes, I know that’s not her.

Padema is in the top5 IN THE WORLD!

Perhaps I am not familar with Padema…

113 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:32:59pm

re: #106 Occasional Reader

For real?

Yes.
Might cause ripples, because I live in a “small” town.

114 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:33:20pm

re: #68 AuntAcid

The lesson here is you just can’t fire IT guys, you must kill them.

Back in the late ’70s when I was attending the University of Washington, and working part time as a systems operator on the university mainframes, there was some student stealing computer resources and generally hacking around. It took nearly a year to catch the guy. What do you think they did once they caught him?

Hired him to be part of the system security team, full time.

115 turn  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:33:48pm

re: #99 opnion

Oh he did it. I’ll be on Oprah with the truth , right after my book deal.

What’s the title, “Fwank Likes Spank”? Goofy talking queer.

116 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:33:54pm

Padeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeema

117 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:33:58pm

re: #68 AuntAcid

The lesson here is you just can’t fire IT guys, you must kill them.

LOL

118 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:34:20pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Many good things come from India.

Are you sayuing this is Rajendrasinh Makwana?

She doesn’t look like an IT chick.

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:34:52pm

re: #108 jwb7605

It’s a case of getting sickened of the image their religion has become in the eyes of the world.
I hope more do it. I don’t care what they convert to.

I don’t care even if they convert. They just need to speak out, LOUDLY, that the radical Jihadis do not represent the majority.

120 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:04pm

re: #115 turn

What’s the title, “Fwank Likes Spank”? Goofy talking queer.

It’ll be a spy thriller ‘Barney Jagdidsh Frank & the Indian connection”
You know Gahndi not Cocheese

121 wolfie  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:27pm

Glen Allen, VA? That’s not in the DC area. Down by Richmond I think.

Maybe it’s a Confederate conspiracy!

/

122 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:33pm

re: #68 AuntAcid

The lesson here is you just can’t fire IT guys, you must kill them.

OMG, that’s a keeper! ROTFLMAO!

123 Catttt  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:38pm

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Back in the late ’70s when I was attending the University of Washington, and working part time as a systems operator on the university mainframes, there was some student stealing computer resources and generally hacking around. It took nearly a year to catch the guy. What do you think they did once they caught him?

Hired him to be part of the system security team, full time.

Of course.

Full disclosure - I have an autographed Free Kevin bumpersticker (too good, of course, to actually put on a bumper).

124 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:40pm

re: #116 Ben Hur

Padeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeema

I think you either mean Padma… or possible Padme?…


(btw, Padme appears to be violating Rule No. 3 of Blaster Safety)

125 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:43pm

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don’t care even if they convert. They just need to speak out, LOUDLY, that the radical Jihadis do not represent the majority.

The problem is that anyone who does that draws a death mark for apostasy. But I agree with you about what needs to happen.

126 Ojoe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:46pm

This is like the peasants going to the manor during the French Revolution, and burning all the records.

127 turn  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:36:55pm

Time to walk the lab along the American. Have a great weekend Lizards and go Steelers!

128 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:37:17pm

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don’t care even if they convert. They just need to speak out, LOUDLY, that the radical Jihadis do not represent the majority.

The majority of Catholic clergy are not pedophiles, either.
This was a combination of shame and healthy doubt about their religion’s teachings.

129 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:37:41pm

re: #124 Occasional Reader

Padma.

130 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:37:50pm

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Back in the late ’70s when I was attending the University of Washington, and working part time as a systems operator on the university mainframes, there was some student stealing computer resources and generally hacking around. It took nearly a year to catch the guy. What do you think they did once they caught him?

Hired him to be part of the system security team, full time.


Whoo-hoo! Another mainframer!

131 LeePro  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:37:59pm

re: #98 Globular Cluster

From the article:

An affidavit states he was fired for erroneously writing programming instructions two weeks earlier that changed the settings on high-speed computers called servers that are connected to multiple network users.


Cringe.

I am not even a geek, and that one really got me, too.

And I wonder… “erroneously writing programming instructions…”

Just a little “oops.” Move on. Nothing there!

/////////////////////////////////

132 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:38:38pm

Need some help.
I used to have the site where you can see the cost of living in various cities. It was a govt site, I think. I cannot find it and google is not helping.
Anyone know the site and can link to it or email me. I blued by nic.
Thanks. Need comparison between St. Louis and Seattle.

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:38:51pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that anyone who does that draws a death mark for apostasy. But I agree with you about what needs to happen.

Conversion, speak out against, you are dead no matter what you do.

134 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:38:56pm

This whole thing reminds of that scene in Jurassic Park with Neuman.

135 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:39:46pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that anyone who does that draws a death mark for apostasy. But I agree with you about what needs to happen.

Yeah , but asking the first “moderate” Mulim to speak out is like asking”Who wants to be the first Astronaut to walk on the Sun?”

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:39:49pm

re: #130 tankascribe

Whoo-hoo! Another mainframer!

CDC mainframes at that. Safeco insurance was the IBMers.

137 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:40:02pm

Dodd, Fwank, and BHO are on a conference call:

“We’ll have to go with Plan B now.”
/

138 stuiec  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:40:13pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

India has more than 160 million Muslims. Many of them have Indian names.

Rajendrasingh is, I believe, a Hindu or Sikh name.

139 mean Gene  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:40:18pm

re: #134 Ben Hur

This whole thing reminds of that scene in Jurassic Park with Neuman.

Me, too.
I just couldn’t think of the name of the movie yesterday when I posted this story in spin off links.

140 LGoPs  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:40:23pm

re: #20 Typicalwhitey

Charles:

You might want to look at how the progressives (ha) are looking at the Michael Steel win:
This links to kos…you have been warned.

I have left the GOP for good, but I hope they come up with quality ideas for our country. I want Democrats to be challenged to have the very best ideas. Obviously, Bush and the GOP have left such a mess that Obama and the Democrats have done more positive things in the last 9 days than Bush did in the last 8 years.
But I hope the GOP gets better. I wish them well. I am not a leftist Rush Limbaugh.

Yeah, like this quote up above. Why do I not believe that this fucktard was ever a Republican……….

141 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:40:37pm

re: #108 jwb7605

It’s a case of getting sickened of the image their religion has become in the eyes of the world.
I hope more do it. I don’t care what they convert to.

Even Scientology is an improvement. They just want your money, not everyone else’s lives.

142 stuiec  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:41:49pm

re: #135 opnion

Yeah , but asking the first “moderate” Mulim to speak out is like asking”Who wants to be the first Astronaut to walk on the Sun?”

The key to a Sun landing is to arrive well after nightfall.

143 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:41:49pm

re: #134 Ben Hur

This whole thing reminds of that scene in Jurassic Park with Neuman.

To this day when getting ready to hit the Enter key on some really big change, I mutter “Hang onto your butts.”

144 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:42:02pm

re: #133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Conversion, speak out against, you are dead no matter what you do.

So it always is with totalitarians: You either live their way or die. I say screw that. I say we smash them. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but it needs to be said often.

145 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:42:42pm

re: #142 stuiec

The key to a Sun landing is to arrive well after nightfall.

So true, that’s the only time that I would go.

146 Ojoe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:43:25pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I say we smash them.

W.T. Sherman’s version:

“War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let’s give them all they want.”

147 opnion  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:00pm

re: #146 Ojoe

W.T. Sherman’s version:

“War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let’s give them all they want.”


The man had style.

148 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:02pm

re: #128 jwb7605

The majority of Catholic clergy are not pedophiles, either.
This was a combination of shame and healthy doubt about their religion’s teachings.

You would certainly get an argument about that from at least of one poster here. OY!

149 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:26pm

re: #142 stuiec

The key to a Sun landing is to arrive well after nightfall.

Or you could just land on the dark side…

150 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:37pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

CDC mainframes at that. Safeco insurance was the IBMers.

You got to play with a Cray? Me, it’s usually Big Blue, although for a while there was a Hitachi, which was the biggest lemon the company ever bought. The guy who purchased it got a free set of golf clubs, though.

151 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:47pm

re: #142 stuiec

The key to a Sun landing is to arrive well after nightfall.

Are you sure?
I think one needs wait till it cools a little bit. Maybe a couple hours or so.

152 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:04pm

re: #124 Occasional Reader

I think you either mean Padma… or possible Padme?…

(btw, Padme appears to be violating Rule No. 3 of Blaster Safety)

Don’t tickle your nipple with the power pack?

153 Globular Cluster  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:06pm

re: #131 LeePro

I am not even a geek, and that one really got me, too.

And I wonder… “erroneously writing programming instructions…”

Just a little “oops.” Move on. Nothing there!

Nice catch! I didn’t think that reporters today could be this technologically illiterate, but I was wrong.

154 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:09pm

Partial Crackdown Lets Imams Preach Jihad

A dozen Pakistani policemen stood watch last week outside a Lahore mosque known to be a stronghold of the Lashkar-e-Taiba guerrilla group — while the imam inside preached jihad to thousands of worshippers.

The squad’s presence was part of Pakistan’s vow to curb Lashkar, which India blames for the Nov. 26-29 Mumbai terrorist attack that killed 164 people, and it showed how limited that effort has been. As the officers heard Saifullah Khalid’s sermon blaring over loudspeakers, he demanded more attacks on India.

“Muslims under the leadership of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jamaat ud-Dawa will conquer all South Asia!” Khalid roared. “Nobody can stop us from fighting India!”

Pakistan’s offensive, in response to international pressure to suppress Lashkar and its civilian ally, Jamaat, is halting and partial at best, says Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based analyst and author of books on Pakistan and Islamic militancy. Fewer Jamaat leaders have been arrested, and fewer of its schools closed, than the national government claims, according to provincial-level figures.

Because the country’s politically dominant army has cultivated Lashkar and Jamaat to help confront India over the disputed territory of Kashmir, “there is not going to be any sudden U-turn in policy,” Rashid said. “I don’t expect a proper crackdown.

/please don’t disturb the jihadis while they’re praying

155 El Supremo  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:39pm

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Back in the late ’70s when I was attending the University of Washington, and working part time as a systems operator on the university mainframes, there was some student stealing computer resources and generally hacking around. It took nearly a year to catch the guy. What do you think they did once they caught him?

Hired him to be part of the system security team, full time.

A few years back I dated a FBI agent… She did not work in the cyber crimes dept but had some friends who did. Any way she told me that if they catch a really good hacker they give him two options jail or full time mployment with the FBI.

156 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:52pm

re: #140 LGoPs

Yeah, like this quote up above. Why do I not believe that this fucktard was ever a Republican……….

I know of a few ex-RINOs that talk quite similar to that.

But their conversion was more of not wanting to stick out in the crowd.

157 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:46:03pm

Please see Jammie’s spin off link.

Upding that beyatch.

Threadworthy.

158 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:46:22pm

re: #150 tankascribe

You got to play with a Cray? Me, it’s usually Big Blue, although for a while there was a Hitachi, which was the biggest lemon the company ever bought. The guy who purchased it got a free set of golf clubs, though.

Cray, I wish. *swoon* ;)

159 Eowyn2  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:46:53pm

re: #16 Kosh’s Shadow

Rule 1 of security when people are getting laid off:
1) Disable their accounts while they are being informed that they’re being let go.

I don’t think anyplace I worked did that, though. On the other hand, even if I was upset at the place (and there was one company that I was upset at), I never did anything like that.
(I did delete data - but the COPIES I had on my personal equipment for various reasons, and I was required to do that. In fact, one boss watched me delete it just to be sure; they had let me take my own machine in to the office.)

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

160 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:46:54pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Partial Crackdown Lets Imams Preach Jihad

/please don’t disturb the jihadis while they’re praying seething

fixed.

161 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:47:20pm

re: #155 El Supremo

A few years back I dated a FBI agent… She did not work in the cyber crimes dept but had some friends who did. Any way she told me that if they catch a really good hacker they give him two options jail or full time mployment with the FBI.

As much as I want to see cyber crime punished I do understand the thinking. The best way to catch a thief is to hire another thief.

162 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:47:27pm

re: #132 newsjunkie_ky

Need some help.
I used to have the site where you can see the cost of living in various cities. It was a govt site, I think. I cannot find it and google is not helping.
Anyone know the site and can link to it or email me. I blued by nic.
Thanks. Need comparison between St. Louis and Seattle.

Was it the Bureau of Labor Statistics?

163 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:47:57pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy


They heard The One’s interview.

THEY KNOW THE PRESSURE IS OFF.

164 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:48:19pm

re: #159 Eowyn2

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

Writing code is not sexy enough for most Americans.

165 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:48:59pm

re: #159 Eowyn2

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

According to the Computerworld article, his accounts weren’t disabled, or maybe he had root passwords that hadn’t been changed.

166 vapig  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:49:46pm

re: #155 El Supremo

A few years back I dated a FBI agent… She did not work in the cyber crimes dept but had some friends who did. Any way she told me that if they catch a really good hacker they give him two options jail or full time mployment with the FBI.

I think we had a couple of those at the Pentagon. They way they dressed? Could only have been hackers.

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:07pm

re: #165 Kosh’s Shadow

According to the Computerworld article, his accounts weren’t disabled, or maybe he had root passwords that hadn’t been changed.

The administrators are administrators because they have no clue about actually running a system. Changing root passwords is too techy for most people.

168 Eowyn2  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:13pm

re: #98 Globular Cluster

From the article:


Cringe.


its getting way too technical.

169 kwildman  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:22pm

My prediction:

- This guy will deny any wrongdoing (ala Blago), and proclaim his innocence. Thus, the questions of what he was doing and for whom he was acting will go unanswered, at the peril of our national security.
- The Feds, with a weakened case against him, will send him up for 10 years.
- He becomes the new Gitmo poster child of the moonbats. “There’s no case against him. You’re wrongfully imprisoning an innocent man just trying to make a living..”
- Obama, in an effort to appease these people, will pardon him right before the door hits him in the ass in 4 years.

This is the justice system in Obamanation. Any takers…?

170 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:34pm

re: #161 FurryOldGuyJeans

Then the R’s should send an application to Blago.He knows where the bodies are buried, guaranteed.

171 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:47pm

re: #159 Eowyn2

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

Everybody is hiring people offshore to crank out code. First it was the Phillipines, then India. They work cheaper and you don’t have to pay them benefits (although that’s changing rapidly). The drawback is they have a gazillion holidays, don’t seem to like working regular hours, and when somebody cuts a trans-oceanic cable you lose contact with two-thirds of your Support people.

172 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:52pm

re: #159 Eowyn2

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

Indian companies only charge $25 - $40 per person hour ….. American contractors are more expensive, but often worth it if they have a special area of expertise. Our company gets about $100/hour.

173 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:50:54pm

BBL

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:51:26pm

re: #168 Eowyn2

its getting way too technical.

You could get hired as a system administrator in a heart beat. :%P%

175 mean Gene  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:51:44pm

re: #159 Eowyn2

It only makes sense that you would disconnect an account prior to firing a person. However, since he was a contract worker, he probably had back doors into the system.

Important question:
Why is Fannie hiring foreigners to write code (etc) for them in the first place? We have nobody from the US willing to work for contractors fees? hmmmmm

With an entire generation of Americans able to drive and use the cell phone, to play video games while eating and to i-pod or MP3 while texting WHY can’t we find or develop enough Americans to write our code for things like this?

But no.
All the Universities seem to need to import froeigners to fill their computer classes.
So, we’re illiterate in that department.

176 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:52:37pm

re: #175 mean Gene

With an entire generation of Americans able to drive and use the cell phone, to play video games while eating and to i-pod or MP3 while texting WHY can’t we find or develop enough Americans to write our code for things like this?

But no.
All the Universities seem to need to import froeigners to fill their computer classes.
So, we’re illiterate in that department.

We have created a generation of Users.

177 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:00pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

You could get hired as a system administrator in a heart beat. :%P%

Not a sysadmin, a manager!

178 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:08pm

It will be interesting because the Libs hate India because they are victims of terror.

179 mean Gene  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:11pm

re: #176 FurryOldGuyJeans

We have created a generation of Users.

Right.
Now, how does an 0bama cash in on that?
Easy, I guess.

180 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:20pm

re: #175 mean Gene

More important to major in Women’s Studies and the Basket Weaving Techniques of Indigenous Peoples of Malaysia.

181 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:53:55pm

Germany invades Switerland!

No joke…..ok, maybe a little joke.

182 kansas  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:04pm

Funny. I went online to pay my mortgage today and couldn’t get in. Citi said their site was down and would be for up to 48 hours. The person I spoke with sounded like she was in Indonesia.

Makes me crazy, but what to do?

183 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:07pm
184 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:08pm

They being the Indians in India.

In case you were wondering where Indians lived.

Or at least most of them.

Because they are everywhere.

Like Fiji.

But not exclusively.

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:10pm

re: #177 tankascribe

Not a sysadmin, a manager!

You are right, or course. My bad in using the wrong terms.

I humbly apologize. ;)

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:49pm

re: #179 mean Gene

Right.
Now, how does an 0bama cash in on that?
Easy, I guess.

He already has. Credit card donations during the campaign.

187 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:57pm

Obama? Gosh, isn’t he dreamy?

(I’ve decided that I will gush the above every time the new President’s name is mentioned in my hearing.)

188 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:55:09pm

re: #181 DeafDog

Germany invades Switerland!

No joke…..ok, maybe a little joke.

Islamic Jew hating terrorists. Good.

Nake Germans. Bad.

This is what the Swiss call “neutrality.”

189 avanti  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:55:09pm

re: #166 vapig

I think we had a couple of those at the Pentagon. They way they dressed? Could only have been hackers.

I’m still disappointed with my kid, he was offered a internship at NSA while in high school by his computer teacher and passed on it. How do you make a 17 year old think like a adult ? 12 years later he’s now doing well as a manager at Guitar Center, but a chance to work for NSA ?

190 El Supremo  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:55:10pm

re: #140 LGoPs

Yeah, like this quote up above. Why do I not believe that this fucktard was ever a Republican……….


Read the same thing …..thought the same thing.

The other day some of the kos kids were railing about Viet Nam. One made the remark about a friend drafted into the Army was killed at Khe Sanh. Now I do know that Khe Sanh was a forward fire base close to the DMZ manned by entirely by Marines, who as I recall do not draft. The thought then as now is that these idiots create vitctimhood for themselves and spew it as gospel truth.

191 mean Gene  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:55:20pm

re: #180 vagabond trader

More important to major in Women’s Studies and the Basket Weaving Techniques of Indigenous Peoples of Malaysia.

Do we have a ”Victim’s Studies” major yet or are we still couching that inside the names of majors like Women’s Black, Chicano, etc, etc, etc.?

192 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:56:32pm

I’m glad we don’t promote “Conspiracy Theories” around here like Troofers do………..

/Just the facts ma’m, just the facts.
Friday out

193 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:56:40pm
194 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:56:56pm

How pissed is Ben Hur that he has dinner plans on Saturday night so he couldn’t go see the Ladysmith Black Mambazo show?

195 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:56:58pm

re: #182 kansas

Funny. I went online to pay my mortgage today and couldn’t get in. Citi said their site was down and would be for up to 48 hours. The person I spoke with sounded like she was in Indonesia.

Makes me crazy, but what to do?

I had to call a few days ago ComCast (Seattle area) cable for some customer service issue, and just offhandedly I found out the call center was in Manila. The rep spoke very good English, but I had noticed a bit of the Tagalog corruption of some syllables and enunciations.

196 kansas  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:57:09pm

Obviously, Bush and the GOP have left such a mess that Obama and the Democrats have done more positive things in the last 9 days than Bush did in the last 8 years.

Well, obviously. I mean what’s not to like about negotiating with terrorists, releasing terrorists, spending money on pet projects, and drinking martini’s and eating $100 steak? Anybody got a ciggie? Stock market looking pretty grim too. If Mr. President could say one god damned good thing about the country, it might help, but he won’t because he isn’t trying to help, now is he?

197 tankascribe  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:57:21pm

It’s quittin’ time here at the zoo — see ya around, fellow Lizards!

198 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:57:41pm

can’t go see.

It’s hard out there for a PIMF

199 kansas  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:57:47pm

Yeah, gonna go to the Copa room and have some booze.

200 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:57:59pm

re: #195 FurryOldGuyJeans

I had to call a few days ago ComCast (Seattle area) cable for some customer service issue, and just offhandedly I found out the call center was in Manila. The rep spoke very good English, but I had noticed a bit of the Tagalog corruption of some syllables and enunciations.

I love the ones whose accent you can’t hear English through named “Chip”….

201 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:58:11pm

re: #188 Ben Hur

Islamic Jew hating terrorists. Good.

Nake Germans. Bad.

This is what the Swiss call “neutrality.”

Certainly question why they don’t promote more Naked Germans

At least this way you know they don’t have a gun.

202 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:58:21pm

re: #193 Iron Fist

Do you know the difference between a sysadmin and God?

Even God doesn’t think He is a sysadmin.

Yes, I know. But was being less technical for the other lizards.

(That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it!)

203 jcm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:58:47pm

re: #194 Ben Hur

How pissed is Ben Hur that he has dinner plans on Saturday night so he couldn’t go see the Ladysmith Black Mambazo show?

I can imagine…

Youtube Video
204 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:59:05pm

re: #195 FurryOldGuyJeans

I had to call a few days ago ComCast (Seattle area) cable for some customer service issue, and just offhandedly I found out the call center was in Manila. The rep spoke very good English, but I had noticed a bit of the Tagalog corruption of some syllables and enunciations.

What I want to know is who the hell named the place the Philippines? Mean thing to do to a people that don’t use the ‘F’ in their language.

205 LGoPs  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:59:20pm

re: #175 mean Gene

With an entire generation of Americans able to drive and use the cell phone, to play video games while eating and to i-pod or MP3 while texting WHY can’t we find or develop enough Americans to write our code for things like this?

But no.
All the Universities seem to need to import froeigners to fill their computer classes.
So, we’re illiterate in that department.

I think it’s a matter of too much liesure time which is a by-product of our affluence. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not against either but I do think that when you’re handed everything on a plate you get soft and stop appreciating it and worse, you stop trying to attain it.
I’m old enough where I think the values of working hard and earning things was driven into me, never to leave.
I’m not so sure of that trait in many people in more recent generations.

I had a similar observation in Saudi Arabia. I went there with a perception of encountering a fierce Arab warrior culture. What I found instead was remarkable laziness. Unearned wealth had created that, IMHO……

206 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:00:10pm

re: #162 reine.de.tout

Was it the Bureau of Labor Statistics?


Thanks, I’m checking it out (thanks for email, I replied)
It was a site where you see the cost of groceries, gas, homes, and a whole lot more.

207 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:00:14pm

re: #200 eschew_obfuscation

I love the ones whose accent you can’t hear English through named “Chip”….

I asked the person I spoke with what his name was and he said, “J.”

“J, A, Y, correct?”

“No, J.”

ARGH! ;)

208 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:02:20pm
209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:02:29pm

re: #204 CyanSnowHawk

What I want to know is who the hell named the place the Philippines? Mean thing to do to a people that don’t use the ‘F’ in their language.

Filipino/Filipina? Someone hasn’t spoken any Tagalog, I see. ;)

My ex, who was a native Filipina before marrying me, always called the R.P the “Filifeens”.

210 ryannon  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:02:43pm

re: #18 Soona’

Who put the bop in the bopshabopshabop.
/in a good mood today

Youtube Video

Who would have thought….?

211 lobo91  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:04:33pm

re: #190 El Supremo

Read the same thing …..thought the same thing.

The other day some of the kos kids were railing about Viet Nam. One made the remark about a friend drafted into the Army was killed at Khe Sanh. Now I do know that Khe Sanh was a forward fire base close to the DMZ manned by entirely by Marines, who as I recall do not draft. The thought then as now is that these idiots create vitctimhood for themselves and spew it as gospel truth.

Most, but not all, of those at Khe Sanh were Marines.

The Marines did draft people in the Vietnam era, however.

212 wolfie  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:04:39pm

re: #175 mean Gene

One of the reasons we have to import foreign students is to fill “diversity” quotas.
Schools also make a nice buck off of foreigners. Charge them the full sticker price.

213 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:03pm

Unusually long, but balls-on accurate, essay from The People’s Cube.

Cracking the Obama Code: Don Quixote vs. the Windmill Owners

It’s worth the time to read.

214 jcm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:27pm

re: #212 wolfie

One of the reasons we have to import foreign students is to fill “diversity” quotas.
Schools also make a nice buck off of foreigners. Charge them the full sticker price.

They should just walk across the border, illegals get in state tuition in many States.

215 Cheechako  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:08:17pm

re: #190 El Supremo

Read the same thing …..thought the same thing.

The other day some of the kos kids were railing about Viet Nam. One made the remark about a friend drafted into the Army was killed at Khe Sanh. Now I do know that Khe Sanh was a forward fire base close to the DMZ manned by entirely by Marines, who as I recall do not draft. The thought then as now is that these idiots create vitctimhood for themselves and spew it as gospel truth.

I was drafted into the Army in March, 1965. My Draft Board told me I was lucky as their April, 1965 quota included a number of draftees for the Marines. Don’t know if it actually happened.

216 DrCruel  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:10:00pm

The Democrats have controlled my home town for decades. I remember an old surveyor, who had drawn all the property lines for the town - the job had been in his family for generations, up to the time when the town was first founded. Land speculators and developers in good with the Demos kept on trying to rewrite the property lines for their benefit, sometimes in an outright bid to steal land from the rightful owners. Their problem was that the old man had records of the deed lines from when the lines were first drawn, and kept the originals all in his cellar. Whenever they tried something like this, the owners would go to see the old man and he’d bring the originals, and his testimony, into court with him.

Eventually the old man died, and none of his sons were willing to take over the business for him. The city tried to get their hands on teh old records, but his wife wouldn’t let them - but in two years she was dead too. The city officials showed up at the house soon after, packed all the old deeds up in boxes, and brought them to the city hall.

The environment down in that cellar must be pretty hot and dry, for within a few days there was reported in teh newspaper a “spontaneous fire” that had started down there and had burned up all the old records. Luckily the fire was caught in time and completely contained.

( … )

With majority Demos in the Congress and Senate, and a Demo in the White House, we’ll never really find out just how much money the Demos stole during the Clinton and Bush administrations …

217 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:10:29pm

re: #184 Ben Hur

They being the Indians in India.

In case you were wondering where Indians lived.

Or at least most of them.

Because they are everywhere.

Like Fiji.

Isn’t that what Custer said?
//

But not exclusively.

218 Catttt  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:11:32pm

Here is the complaint on Scrbd. (didn’t see it linked yet)

219 vapig  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:12:34pm

re: #189 avanti

I’m still disappointed with my kid, he was offered a internship at NSA while in high school by his computer teacher and passed on it. How do you make a 17 year old think like a adult ? 12 years later he’s now doing well as a manager at Guitar Center, but a chance to work for NSA ?

Dang! I’m sorry to hear that! He’d be a ba-zillionaire big wig by now!

220 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:13:14pm

re: #212 wolfie

One of the reasons we have to import foreign students is to fill “diversity” quotas.
Schools also make a nice buck off of foreigners. Charge them the full sticker price.

And it helps the bell curve on math scores. Heh.

221 victor_yugo  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:13:31pm

re: #209 FurryOldGuyJeans

My ex, who was a native Filipina before marrying me, always called the R.P the “Filifeens”.

And marrying you means she’s no longer a native Filipina?

222 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:14:19pm

re: #213 DeafDog

Unusually long, but balls-on accurate, essay from The People’s Cube.

Cracking the Obama Code: Don Quixote vs. the Windmill Owners

It’s worth the time to read.

I sent the link to my Russian friend, and told him it sounded just like something he would say.
I didn’t know the website author was actually from the USSR, so the site makes a lot more sense to me now.

223 wolfie  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:15:06pm

re: #214 jcm

They should just walk across the border, illegals get in state tuition in many States.

Most of the people walking across the border actually come to WORK, as opposed to going to college. Some, of course, don’t, but I bet those prefer in-state welfare to in-state tuition!

Even so, in-state tuition for illegal aliens is completamente loco en la cabeza.

224 victor_yugo  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:16:07pm

re: #219 vapig

Dang! I’m sorry to hear that! He’d be a ba-zillionaire big wig by now!

At what cost? The NSA would own his soul, or he’d be called “Number 6”.

225 wolfie  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:16:44pm

re: #220 Wyatt Earp

True!
You don’t hear professors complaining about MOST foreign students!

226 screaming_eagle  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:17:36pm

Was it Barney Frank’s SO?

227 jcm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:20:10pm

re: #223 wolfie

Most of the people walking across the border actually come to WORK, as opposed to going to college. Some, of course, don’t, but I bet those prefer in-state welfare to in-state tuition!

Even so, in-state tuition for illegal aliens is completamente loco en la cabeza.

In WA the entire government is completamente loco en la cabeza.

228 jrausta  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:20:10pm

I’m sure Fannie Mae is diligent and has backups for restores. Granted, those idiots probably backed it up on floppies, but at least they could retrieve the data.

229 captwfcall  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:26:06pm

Fannie Mae doesn’t have offsite backups? Is that what I’m reading here? If so, that’s the bigger problem.

230 jcm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:26:10pm

re: #228 jrausta

I’m sure Fannie Mae is diligent and has backups for restores. Granted, those idiots probably backed it up on floppies, but at least they could retrieve the data.

The forgot to number them, and just tossed them into a box, all 458,875 of them.

C: Start restore.
*Beep*
Insert disk 1 to begin.

*Looks at box…………*

231 Lily  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:29:15pm

re: “#155 El Supremo

A few years back I dated a FBI agent… She did not work in the cyber crimes dept but had some friends who did. Any way she told me that if they catch a really good hacker they give him two options jail or full time mployment with the FBI.

As much as I want to see cyber crime punished I do understand the thinking. The best way to catch a thief is to hire another thief.”

Actually, I believe the thinking is more along the lines of “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

232 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:30:38pm

re: #230 jcm

The forgot to number them, and just tossed them into a box, all 458,875 of them.

C: Start restore.
*Beep*
Insert disk 1 to begin.

*Looks at box…………*

Reading track 0, sector 0 …
Verifying track 0, sector 0 …
*beep*
Rereading track 0, sector 0 … click, click, click …

233 jcm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:36:40pm

re: #232 jwb7605

Reading track 0, sector 0 …
Verifying track 0, sector 0 …
*beep*
Rereading track 0, sector 0 … click, click, click …

beep boop boop beep…. ring…. ring….
IT administrator!
Hey boss, this might take awhile……..

234 mean Gene  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:37:44pm

Wish I had a link because (on Fox News) some soldier at Gitmo just said the Muslim prisoners get all agitated over simple things on TV like the Palmolive advert wherein a woman (fully clothed) gets her hands wet.
One set of prisoners actually destroyed a TV over such an ad.

235 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:51:50pm

So the USA needs to hire foreign subcontractors to work on the most sensitive systems in the country.

I suppose this guy would do it for half of what Charles would have charged, if he wasn’t busy elsewhere, but that doesn’t include the costs of the FBI and courts to come.

236 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:53:01pm

re: #234 mean Gene

Wish I had a link because (on Fox News) some soldier at Gitmo just said the Muslim prisoners get all agitated over simple things on TV like the Palmolive advert wherein a woman (fully clothed) gets her hands wet.
One set of prisoners actually destroyed a TV over such an ad.

Why do they watch TV? Mohammed didn’t say it was possible.

237 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:09:06pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Question the timing.

Ben Hur -

NO POOP! A wipe-out of those records at this time would be very convenient to a RAFT of Congress-Critters. Just my 2 cents.

-S-

238 LEGION  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:16:32pm

Quick- get this info to the press! Wait- they won’t report it because they are complicit in all the lies and cover-up.

239 Izzy Dunne  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:29:54pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

I wonder what his religion is? My guess: Starts with an I, ends in a ‘slam’.

ICatholicSlam?

IPresbyterianSlam?

IQuakerSlam?

I give up…

240 Ron Shaw  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:47:08pm

The Dems in power as well as their home-cooking MSM have consistently reported, ‘who cares anyway.’ Virus or no virus, records or not the issue is toast. It has been Barack-ed…consider it housing socialism or informal reparations of a sort.

The Dems including Barack have all slipped the blame, dodged and buried even a hint of an independent counsel and been rather successful in blaming Bush and the Republicans for all our nation’s woes, to include but surely not limited to, financial, homeland political distrust/unrest, world’s hatred and scorn, Global Warming, Christianity, hurricanes, inflated gas prices, the ever-greedy corporate America, creating worldwide terrorism which the libs maintain does not really exist, etc., etc. The only things Bush does not get the blame for are…you guessed ‘em…hope and change. As a Congress person said in response to the stimulus package, ‘you wanted change, it’s change’ or words to that effect.

We are Barack-ed.

241 SummerSong  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:57:08pm

re: #123 Catttt

Of course.

Full disclosure - I have an autographed Free Kevin bumpersticker (too good, of course, to actually put on a bumper).

Kevin’s best friend had a small IT company in CA. I used to own the stock and check in with him a few times a year…’ til it went belly up.

242 sngnsgt  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:19:32pm

re: #240 Ron Shaw

That’s beautiful.

243 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:52:40pm

re: #221 victor_yugo

And marrying you means she’s no longer a native Filipina?

American citizenship, 6 months later she throws me out and files for divorce.

244 Dasher  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:48:56pm

Maybe if he succeeded Fannie-Mae would wind up on the ash heap of history where it belongs.

245 mattm  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 9:57:44pm

I want to know who else knew and what their role was. A modern day Watergate.

246 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 31, 2009 3:54:19am

re: #218 Catttt

“Rajendrasinh Makwana… a citizen of India who resides in the United States under a work visa… currently free on $100,000 bail pending trial.” - Informationweek

[shaking my head in disbelief. The guy is a huge flight risk.]

www.informationweek.com...]>www.informationweek.com…]> See: logic bomb

I had a supervisor from India. He lied like a rug. I hated to work with him. One of friends burned down his business to collect the insurance money - he is now in jail.

247 MadJadBad  Sat, Jan 31, 2009 7:19:02am

re: #246 Ledger1

That’s not been my experience. I work with a lot of Indian IT people and for the most part, they are pretty top notch.

248 tanna  Sat, Jan 31, 2009 9:01:58am

re: #62 ted

My sweaty plumber sense went off with this one, too, and I’m not a conspiracy nut.

249 Alone in NY  Sat, Jan 31, 2009 11:30:58am

We will soon learn that Rajendrasinh was a domestic worker for Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the apartment they “shared” in Washington. Failure to pay tax disclosures in 5, 4, 3 …


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