Fox Contributor Erik Rush: WNYD shooting staged by Obama; Obama planned to nuke DC to start war with Syria

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Shortly after the mass shooting at the Navy Yard in Washington, DC earlier this month, Fox News contributor Erik Rush began declaring that the attack was a false flag operation that was “part political diversion, part gun-grabbing theater.”

Rush has since changed his tune slightly and started promoting the theory that the shooting was really an effort by the Obama Administration to stop the Navy from arresting the President for treason after having discovered his plans to detonate a nuclear weapon in the middle of Washington, DC in order to justify military action in Syria.

On his radio program last week, Rush promoted the conspiracy theory once again on the grounds that “a lot of stuff that seemed to some of us like conspiracy theories years ago turned out to be true over the last few months”:

More: Erik Rush: Navy Yard Shooting Carried Out to Prevent Obama From Being Arrested for Treason

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148 comments
1 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 11:30:05am

Why does this guy have a radio show, and not a nice home in a padded cell? Is mental health care so bad in America that people talking insane shit get radio shows instead of the help they so clearly, and so desperately need?

2 BroncD  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:49:36pm

He makes Allen West seem relatively normal and grounded.

3 thecommodore  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:51:16pm

re: #1 GeneJockey

Why does this guy have a radio show…?

Because people listen to him. Clowns like him would be banished to screaming on street corners if there wasn’t an audience who didn’t respond favorably to this crap.

Ditto Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck…it’s a demand side problem.

4 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:51:40pm

How does Erik Rush get through the day without heavy medication and a crash helmet?

This shit makes the most deranged Alex Jones conspiracies look rational. WTF.

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:52:07pm

This man is crazy. Obama staged those murders to distract attention from BENGHAZI!!!

6 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:52:13pm

“a lot of stuff that seemed to some of us like conspiracy theories years ago turned out to be true over the last few months”

Name one.

7 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:52:22pm

He must follow Lisa Phillips’ Twitter feed.

8 AntonSirius  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:52:34pm

Wow. Your move, Glenn Beck. Top that shit.

9 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:53:33pm

Sounds reasonable, maybe we should hold some congressional hearings to get to the bottom of this?

10 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:53:51pm

re: #3 thecommodore

Because people listen to him. Clowns like him would be banished to screaming on street corners if there wasn’t an audience who didn’t respond favorably to this crap.

Ditto Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck…it’s a demand side problem.

That’s quite true; David Icke has made a ton of money off his insane theories, and he routinely has standing room only crowds at his lectures.

I read through a few of his theories, in a cursory manner, and it’s quite bluntly the ravings of a lunatic.

11 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:54:17pm

Holy Christ! Once again I wonder why I, with my rather mild mental illness, can’t find a job whereas this screaming loon gets big bucks for diarrhea of the brain in public?

12 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:54:50pm

I think this man is clinically insane.

13 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:55:30pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I think this man is clinically insane.

I think Pete Santelli is even crazier than he is.

14 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:55:45pm

Perhaps I am too much of a pragmatist. I would be happy if people just worked, payed taxes and stayed out of jail.

I say that to people and they say in response “Is that all?”

It’s as if they don’t really understand how hard that is become for many.

The Whackos aren’t happy unless everyone is heterosexually married with child and attending church weekly, reading their bible daily.

15 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:55:53pm

re: #8 AntonSirius

Wow. Your move, Glenn Beck. Top that shit.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!!

16 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:55:56pm

re: #8 AntonSirius

Wow. Your move, Glenn Beck. Top that shit.

NO, don’t encourage him!

17 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:56:26pm

Frank says:

There are forty people in this world, and five of them are hamburgers.

(Once again, Frank wins.)

18 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:56:39pm

I’m going to have nightmares of Ted Cruz as his disembodied, floating face is lit from below with occult foxfire. Midnight comes. He will laugh.

The Elder Gods are coming.
Reagan.
Nixon.
Harding.

The clock strikes. Can you hear the chant?

I AM SAM
I AM SAM
SAM-I-AM

19 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:56:47pm

Dear Conservatives,

When someone says “That is the dumbest thing I ever heard”, its not a hint for you to try and top it.

20 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:57:07pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

He is.

I’m no shrink but I’ve encountered enough of these paranoid loons in my journeys through the mental health care system to recognize someone with only a nodding acquaintance with reality.

21 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:57:42pm

Ted Cruz South Park avatar.

22 You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:57:44pm

Dude went full retard. Never go full retard.

23 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:58:09pm

Whut.

24 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:58:26pm

re: #11 Romantic Heretic

Holy Christ! Once again I wonder why I, with my rather mild mental illness, can’t find a job whereas this screaming loon gets big bucks for diarrhea of the brain in public?

You are crazy enough.

25 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:59:34pm

re: #8 AntonSirius

Wow. Your move, Glenn Beck. Top that shit.

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26 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:59:45pm

re: #24 aagcobb

You are crazy enough.

Not enough to work for The Ministry of Truth.

Plus I have ethics.

27 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 12:59:55pm

Reid On House GOP: ‘We’re Dealing With Anarchists’

“Understand we’re dealing with anarchists,” Reid said Monday. “They hate government.”

Reid said Democrats would do “everything in their power” to help federal employees and pass a “clean” CR, which would continue current government spending levels.

“We are not going to do anything other than wait for them to pass our CR because otherwise government’s going to shutdown.

28 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:01:18pm

SO WHAT! THEY’RE NOT ESSENTUAL!!!1!!!!

29 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:02:02pm

re: #11 Romantic Heretic

Holy Christ! Once again I wonder why I, with my rather mild mental illness, can’t find a job whereas this screaming loon gets big bucks for diarrhea of the brain in public?

A) You’re not crazy enough.

2) There’s no money in being crazy on the Left. Well, maybe enough for GG, but he’s working for the Guardian, not speaking to millions of drooling racist morons adoring fans every day.

III) Your mental illness doesn’t disconnect you from reality and logic.

30 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:02:25pm

re: #20 Romantic Heretic

He is.

I’m no shrink but I’ve encountered enough of these paranoid loons in my journeys through the mental health care system to recognize someone with only a nodding acquaintance with reality.

I’m no shrink either, but I’ve encountered paranoid personalities and people with some pretty serious mental issues just in the course of my life.

I worked for awhile as a bartender at a now defunct strip club in Portland, OR; it was…….interesting. There were two young ladies, dancers, who were distinctly suffering from some kind of severe delusional thinking, as in “The CIA is trying to kill me” to “There’s a huge conspiracy directed against me by the Bilderbergs because I know the truth of this world”, etc. There were lesser issues to be dealt with; low self-esteem, abusive relationships, one I recall who I would say, in my non-professional opinion, was quite likely a psychopath.

This was in the mid 1990s, btw.

31 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:02:38pm

re: #27 Kragar

Reid On House GOP: ‘We’re Dealing With Anarchists’

There was a short story I read a while back (Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, I think) about anarchists. The gist was that there were no real anarchists, just a creation of those who needed there to be anarchists …

32 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:02:53pm

re: #27 Kragar

Reid On House GOP: ‘We’re Dealing With Anarchists’

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

33 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:03:14pm

HISTORY LESSON: WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME THESE STATES JOINED?

34 thecommodore  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:03:27pm

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

That’s quite true; David Icke has made a ton of money off his insane theories, and he routinely has standing room only crowds at his lectures.

I read through a few of his theories, in a cursory manner, and it’s quite bluntly the ravings of a lunatic.

Maybe not.

If you think about it, even if you’re just moderately informed as to what’s going on, you can make millions sitting down in front of a microphone and just making shit up. All you have to do is to inject enough fear, anger, and paranoia - even if it isn’t based in reality - and be reasonably listenable in the process. That is the secret to success as a broadcaster, I think. Whatever you want to say about him, Limbaugh is a master at this. He is probably the most talented broadcaster out there today - in any medium (music, sports, talk, etc) because of the way he can hold an audience’s attention for three hours a day, five days a week, without any guests, and with listener phone calls probably not even making up half the show. Most of what Limbaugh says is proveably false or grossly distorted, but nobody cares about it. Rush said it, so it has to be true. So anyone who can be half as listenable as Limbaugh, and even go into wacko conspiracy territory (as El Rushbo as able to tap dance around without going all in), can still do very well in talk radio.

Rush himself has even alluded to this. As has Beck.

35 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:03:57pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Pray tell, what do the Democrats have to accept? Obamacare is law.

36 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:04:10pm

re: #20 Romantic Heretic

He is.

I’m no shrink but I’ve encountered enough of these paranoid loons in my journeys through the mental health care system to recognize someone with only a nodding acquaintance with reality.

These guys don’t have a nodding acquaintance with reality. Their acquaintance with reality is more along the lines of noticing it down the street and running down an alley to avoid bumping into it.

37 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:04:30pm

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

I’m no shrink either, but I’ve encountered paranoid personalities and people with some pretty serious mental issues just in the course of my life.

I worked for awhile as a bartender at a now defunct strip club in Portland, OR; it was…….interesting. There were two young ladies, dancers, who were distinctly suffering from some kind of severe delusional thinking, as in “The CIA is trying to kill me” to “There’s a huge conspiracy directed against me by the Bilderbergs because I know the truth of this world”, etc. There were lesser issues to be dealt with; low self-esteem, abusive relationships, one I recall who I would say, in my non-professional opinion, was quite likely a psychopath.

This was in the mid 1990s, btw.

You know, a little general anxiety disorder + alcohol and dehydration can produce terrible thinking processes and behaviors.

38 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:05:22pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

The House GOP are goddamn morons. They’re doing all this over a CR to keep the government running for SIX WEEKS. They want the entire 2012 GOP Platform accepted as law to keep things open until mid-November.

Fuck that. Vote for a clean CR or go home. This is nothing but extortion from the Republicans. They can go to hell.

40 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:05:32pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

I can tell you that women are done with “giving a little”.

41 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:05:48pm

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

HISTORY LESSON: WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME THESE STATES JOINED?

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Should read ‘Join AND Die’.

42 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:02pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Yeah, because its the Dem’s fault for not compromising and letting the GOP screw them over 3 times a week instead of every day.
/

43 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:10pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Think about your position on the ‘cleanliness’ of bills.

44 Gus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:13pm
The idea, in a nutshell, was that [the Navy] found out that President Obama was going to set off this nuke in DC either as a reason for going into Syria or as a reason to escalate military action because this nuke would have been a retaliation for going in to Syria; I’m not quite sure about that, but I do recall a lot of people, including myself, having commented on, having written on, spoken on the fact that the President had an almost obsessive fixation and eagerness for going into Syria at that time and no one could figure out why. We had a lot of different postulations, but now one of them could be he had a time table for orchestrating this stuff.

Granted, even to some of us it may sound like the stuff of conspiracy theories, but a lot of stuff that seemed to some of us like conspiracy theories years ago turned out to be true over the last few months.

Now, again I don’t know what the time table was supposed to be, but I also remember that there were a bunch of embassy closings, if you recall, right around the first weekend in August will all of these things starting to come to bear and we weren’t quite sure, well why were these embassies being closed, well we have some sort of a credible threat. I don’t know if we ever found out what the credible threat was, but all of this looks very, very suspicious.

Now, this Press Core site is claiming, as are the other ones now by extension who are carrying this story, that the DC Naval Yard attack was in retaliation for this attempted arrest of the President or to prevent such a thing from taking place and that the titles of the victims were not released for that very reason because it would tip people off as to who they really are, in terms of their status, if you will.

It’s very sobering stuff. It’s very frightening stuff.

OK, here’s the Press CORE site.

Check out the “stories” and categories.

45 AntonSirius  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:25pm

re: #18 Carlos Danger

I’m going to have nightmares of Ted Cruz as his disembodied, floating face is lit from below with occult foxfire. Midnight comes. He will laugh.

The Elder Gods are coming.
Reagan.
Nixon.
Harding.

The clock strikes. Can you hear the chant?

I wish I’d Storified the #RomneyDeathRally.

46 Bulworth  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:30pm
Rush has since changed his tune slightly and started promoting the theory that the shooting was really an effort by the Obama Administration to stop the Navy from arresting the President for treason after having discovered his plans to detonate a nuclear weapon in the middle of Washington, DC in order to justify military action in Syria.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate. //

47 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:40pm

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

HISTORY LESSON: WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME THESE STATES JOINED?

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They got their asses kicked.

48 Bulworth  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:45pm

re: #39 jaunte

Too late.

49 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:06:45pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Well if your party could accept that President Obama is never going to defund ACA, we could have some progress made. And it would be nice if your party who continues to claim that president Obama isn’t doing enough on jobs wasn’t threatening to shut down the place that just gave me a job. So pardon me but fuck your party.

50 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:07:13pm

re: #39 jaunte

U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Suddenly Very Worried The Tea Party Lunacy They Fostered Might Shut Down Government

This is me playing the world’s smallest violin.

The Wall Street wing of the GOP spent billions astroturfing the Tea Party and courting these far right whackaloons. Now it’s going to bite all of us in the ass. I can’t feel sorry for the GOP at all. They’re reaping all the bad karma they’ve sown.

51 Bulworth  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:07:34pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

Feature, not a bug, etc. /

52 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #39 jaunte

U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Suddenly Very Worried The Tea Party Lunacy They Fostered Might Shut Down Government

You own it CoC. Use your money and influence to get them out. I didn’t vote for these assholes but you and your money sure as hell did.

53 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:08:13pm

On a good note, Marissa Alexander is getting a new trial in Florida.

Some Lizard posted a Page about it, but I can’t find it.

54 Gus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:08:17pm
US CIA & Israeli Mossad sniper death squads targeting and killing civilians in Syria

UN Israeli 66 years genocide of Palestine

Sandy Hook False Flag

The deadly truth about genetically modified foods and vaccines - genocide.

NSSM 200 - Vatican Fourth Reich genocide of 3 billion people

UN Israeli 66 years genocide of Palestine

55 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:08:39pm


These things go hand in hand, considering that the GOP has done nothing but seek to delay, defund, and destroy Obamacare since it was enacted risking the shutdown of government, passage of budgets, and the general business of Congress.

The GOP has abdicated on governance in favor of extortion - kill Obamacare or else the government gets it.

56 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:08:46pm

Compromise

1) Fund the government, pay its debts
2) Hold weekly “Defund Obamacare” votes which go down in flames

Everybody wins.

57 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:08:51pm
58 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:09:01pm

re: #40 FemNaziBitch

I can tell you that women are done with “giving a little”.

“The lives of many men are shorter than the time since last I asked for a little”
—Tu Fu (almost)

59 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:09:18pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Right. On the one hand, the Democrats refuse to accept that elections don’t mean anything, and on the other the Republicans refuse to accept that they do.

60 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:09:23pm

re: #50 Lidane

This is me playing the world’s smallest violin.

The Wall Street wing of the GOP spent billions astroturfing the Tea Party and courting these far right whackaloons. Now it’s going to bite all of us in the ass. I can’t feel sorry for the GOP at all. They’re reaping all the bad karma they’ve sown.

Yep. They pandered to these assholes and gave them billions and now they’re seeing that they’re unreasonable? Maybe they hsould have listened to what they were saying instead of just wanting an anti-Obama movement to protect their interests. They’re worse than the TPers in my book. The TPers are just a bunch of naive idiots who actually believe this is good policy. Groups like the CoC fund these groups without thinking about the consequences.

61 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:10:01pm

re: #54 Gus

Rich & Nutty.

62 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:10:50pm

re: #57 darthstar

Oh this should be good. Would be funny as hell (in a sadistic sort of way) to see that one not pass the house and never even make it to the senate.

63 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:11:26pm

re: #26 Romantic Heretic

Not enough to work for The Ministry of Truth.

Plus I have ethics.

Whoops, I meant you aren’t crazy enough! And obviously that ethics thing is getting in your way.

64 Ian G.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:11:36pm

I was wondering when Fox News and Alex Jones would morph into one.

If 9/11 had happened during the Obama presidency, what percentage of Republicans would be truthers? 75%, 85%? No way it would be less than 50.

65 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:11:36pm

The poll indicates that Obamacare is not popular, with 57% saying they oppose the law, up 3 points from May, and 38% saying they support the measure, down five points from May.

But only about four in 10 oppose it because it is too liberal, with about one in 10 saying they don’t like the law because it is not liberal enough.

If you add the 38% who favor the law to the 11% to oppose the law because it’s not liberal enough, you get 49%, compared with the 39% who say they oppose the law because it’s too liberal.

if somebody else copied this up to the thread before, it bears being copied up and highlighted again

If you add the 38% who favor the law to the 11% to oppose the law because it’s not liberal enough, you get 49%, compared with the 39% who say they oppose the law because it’s too liberal.

66 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:11:38pm

re: #55 lawhawk

ObamaCare is modeled after Romneycare in Massachusetts where it has an approval rating of 84%; exactly what Republicans fear

I remember the debates when Obama took Romney to task over this very point: Romneys’s counter is that his version was passed with braod bipartisan support whereas ACA was “forced on America by a Democratic Congress”.

Because any Republican who supported it knew he had no chance of being nominated by his party ever again.

67 thecommodore  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:11:48pm

Once again, ironically enough, the ad between this post and the comment section is Glenn Beck hawking gold.

68 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:12:19pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Yep. They pandered to these assholes and gave them billions and now they’re seeing that they’re unreasonable? Maybe they hsould have listened to what they were saying instead of just wanting an anti-Obama movement to protect their interests. They’re worse than the TPers in my book. The TPers are just a bunch of naive idiots who actually believe this is good policy. Groups like the CoC fund these groups without thinking about the consequences.

Or groups like the CoC think they can successfully control the outcome. I’m not trying to Godwin here, but the only reason a particular Austrian ended up as Chancellor of Germany was because the German conservatives thought that they could contain his movement and control him.

They found out the hard way just how wrong they were.

69 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:12:26pm
70 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:12:34pm

Worst job in the House isn’t even Speaker. It’s the Majority Whip, who’s supposed to count the votes. The TPExtortionists make this an impossible and thankless task.

Whip: We don’t have the votes.
Boehner: Try again.
Whip: We don’t have the votes.
Boehner: Try again.
Whip: We. Don’t. Have. The. Votes.

71 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:13:01pm

In case you needed another reason to boycott Hobby Lobby.

Pages Post

72 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:13:10pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

my money is on the house accepting what the senate just volleyed back, tonite

73 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:13:28pm

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Or groups like the CoC think they can successfully control the outcome. I’m not trying to Godwin here, but the only reason a particular Austrian ended up as Chancellor of Germany was because the German conservatives thought that they could contain his movement and control him.

They found out the hard way just how wrong they were.

No, you’re not Dodwining at all here. You’re pointing out using that example on how certain interests think they can rely on populist demagoguery and use that as a means of retaining their own power. And that’s exactly what was done here and in yours and numerous other examples.

74 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:13:34pm

re: #67 thecommodore

Once again, ironically enough, the ad between this post and the comment section is Glenn Beck hawking gold.

I get my gold the old fashioned way. Pliers and pruning shears after a battle.
///

75 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:13:36pm

re: #70 lawhawk

Worst job in the House isn’t even Speaker. It’s the Majority Whip, who’s supposed to count the votes. The TPExtortionists make this an impossible and thankless task.

Whip: We don’t have the votes.
Boehner: Try again.
Whip: We don’t have the votes.
Boehner: Try again.
Whip: We. Don’t. Have. The. Votes.

Then they should eat their pride. They won’t admit they failed, because they fucking created this mess.

76 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:14:35pm

re: #57 darthstar

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Boehner’s worst nightmare, that he can’t keep the back and forth going because he can’t ratchet down the demands, but ratcheting them up will only make it more obvious that he’s being used as a meat puppet by the TPers.

77 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:14:53pm

re: #67 thecommodore

Once again, ironically enough, the ad between this post and the comment section is Glenn Beck hawking gold.

Yup - they target keywords, and the quote in this post is full of the kind they’re looking for.

Yesterday I was seeing an ad from one of the wingnut sites screaming “IS IT TIME TO IMPEACH OBAMA!?”

78 Gus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:15:37pm

re: #61 jaunte

Rich & Nutty.

“Affordable mass production electric car motive for HAARP induced 2011 Japan earthquake”

79 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:16:56pm

Fischer: Liberals Seek To ‘Eliminate Us From Public Society’

Asserting that liberals are “the most totalitarian, close-minded … intolerant bigots that you can find,” Fischer warned his listening audience today that “if secular fundamentalists ever get the power, they will eliminate us from public society” by requiring Christians to wear identification markers, forcing them into ghettos, and banning them from running businesses, voting, or holding any sort of public office.

80 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:17:08pm

Let’s be clear here though folks. It doesn’t matter what Democrat replaces President Obama. It could be Hillary, it could be Governor Cuomo or O’Malley, or someone else. They’re going to face this same shit. Obama albeit on a greater scale has faced much of the same crap that President Clinton did. And it all comes back to the right wing noise machine that took over the party in the Reagan era. We need something that completely discredits this brand of conservatism in the eyes of the public but unfortunately, they’re getting more vocal and angry since their vision of the country is changing i.e. more secular, less white, and more accepting of gays and lesbians.

81 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:17:16pm

After my boss telling me on Friday I still had a job, I came in this morning to find out his boss had overruled him and that I was being let go. So this isn’t a good day for me, though I’m more annoyed than anything else. Even though my problems have been clearly the result of non-mental illness, and even though no one on my team had a sale on the current event, I’m still out.

Well, at least I can go back to retail if I’ve got to.

82 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:01pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Good luck.

83 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:04pm

re: #79 Kragar

Fischer: Liberals Seek To ‘Eliminate Us From Public Society’

There he goes again with his Holocaust victim fantasy. I bet he lets his wife dress him up like a concentration camp victim while she wears a SS uniform and tortures him.

84 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:32pm

MOAR STUPID FROM PRUDENCE.
But hey, at least she’s not attributing these lame quotes to Abraham Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson!

85 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:34pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

After my boss telling me on Friday i still had a job, I came in this morning to find out his boss had overruled him and that I was being let go. So this isn’t a good day for me, though I’m more annoyed than anything else. Even though my problems have been clearly the result of non-mental illness, and even though no one on my team had a sale on the current event, I’m still out.

Well, at least I can go back to retail if I’ve got to.

Sucks. I won’t ride your ass for the duration.

86 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:41pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

After my boss telling me on Friday i still had a job, I came in this morning to find out his boss had overruled him and that I was being let go. So this isn’t a good day for me, though I’m more annoyed than anything else. Even though my problems have been clearly the result of non-mental illness, and even though no one on my team had a sale on the current event, I’m still out.

Well, at least I can go back to retail if I’ve got to.

I am sorry to hear that.

Thank you for not blaming Obamacare.

87 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:18:42pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

After my boss telling me on Friday i still had a job, I came in this morning to find out his boss had overruled him and that I was being let go. So this isn’t a good day for me, though I’m more annoyed than anything else. Even though my problems have been clearly the result of non-mental illness, and even though no one on my team had a sale on the current event, I’m still out.

Well, at least I can go back to retail if I’ve got to.

Always sucks. Hope you find a new position soon.

88 Ian G.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:19:05pm

re: #79 Kragar

Fischer: Liberals Seek To ‘Eliminate Us From Public Society’

Funny, because that’s an accurate description of what explicitly Christian Europe did to the Jews in its midst for, oh, almost two millennia.

I think the term we’re looking for is “projection”.

89 Gus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:19:13pm

Image: paulwk.jpg

90 Bulworth  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:19:27pm

re: #79 Kragar

I wonder what role in society conservatives like Fischer imagine for us liberals.

91 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:19:53pm

Targeted keywords work great for things like entertainment or consumer goods, things where if you search for the actual item you’re targeting, the ad’s usually a pretty good match.

Not so great with politics, though. It often ends up showing ads for the opposite of a site’s political orientation, because the algorithms don’t distinguish between liberal/conservative, etc. If the algorithm sees “Obama” on the page, you’re likely to see the IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ads, because those groups are spending lots of money to spread their crap.

92 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:19:53pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

There he goes again with his Holocaust victim fantasy. I bet he lets his wife Rent boy dress him up like a concentration camp victim while she wears a SS uniform and tortures him.

Although I think Bryan wants to be the dominant in his role playing.

93 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:20:32pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

There he goes again with his Holocaust victim fantasy. I bet he lets his wife dress him up like a concentration camp victim while she wears a SS uniform and tortures him.

Its probably his rentboy in the SS uniform.

94 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:20:53pm

re: #88 Ian G.

Funny, because that’s an accurate description of what explicitly Christian Europe did to the Jews in its midst for, oh, almost two millennia.

I think the term we’re looking for is “projection”.

Yeah to Bryan, telling anti-gay Christian bigots like himself that their discriminatory beleifs shouldn’t be law is just like what Europe did to the Jews for centuries. For a man who claims he likes and respects the Jewish people, he sure as hell does everything he can to do mock the suffering that the Jewish people endured for centuries by likening his annoyance that Christians don’t get fnal say to real discrimination. HE’s a bigot.

95 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:20:56pm

re: #90 Bulworth

I wonder what role in society conservatives like Fischer imagine for us liberals.

But, you see, discriminating against, or even eliminating us is just self-defense!

96 Ian G.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:20:58pm

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

#4 is the complete opposite of correct. Tell Prudence to Google “multiplier effect”, and then give her an “F” in Macro 101.

97 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:21:16pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

There he goes again with his Holocaust victim fantasy. I bet he lets his wife dress him up like a concentration camp victim while she wears a SS uniform and tortures him.

Wow; I always wondered what happened to Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS.

She married Bryan Fischer. Who knew?

98 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:21:30pm

re: #88 Ian G.

Or what they did to Muslim Communities in Europe too.

This happened as recently as 1999 in Kosovo. And nasty actions against Muslims are popular in much of Europe, like in Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands.

99 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:21:59pm

re: #92 Vicious Babushka

Although I think Bryan wants to be the dominant in his role playing.

I don’t know. Sometimes I get that impression. Sometimes I get the impression that he wants to be dominated. But that’s the RW paradox for you. They complain about how they need more power to put down teh gay, Muslims, etc but they’r ealso victims too.

100 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:22:15pm

re: #97 Dr Lizardo

Wow; I always wondered what happened to Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS.

She married Bryan Fischer. Who knew?

Where are they now.//

101 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:22:36pm

re: #92 Vicious Babushka

Although I think Bryan wants to be the dominant in his role playing.

Beat me by 39 seconds.

102 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:22:37pm

Obama’s making a statement at 4:45.

103 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:23:02pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

So sorry to hear that awful news Dark Falcon.

104 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:23:51pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Where are they now.//

Somewhat related, but I would pay to see this film.

Youtube Video

Not Safe For Work.

105 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:23:53pm

re: #102 Carlos Danger

Obama’s making a statement at 4:45.

I hope he goes full Truman on their ass. I appreciate that most of the time he’s No Drama Obama but Obama needs to call them to task.

106 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:24:18pm

Gotta get back to the Obamacare training modules. Those neighborhood death panels aren’t going to convene themselves. BBL

107 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:24:20pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear that.

108 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:24:30pm

re: #102 Carlos Danger

Obama’s making a statement at 4:45.

He’s addressing the House GOP. I’ve got the prepared text.

Youtube Video

109 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:24:54pm

We’re done.

There is nothing the GOP hates worse than Obama saying stuff.

110 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:25:47pm

re: #108 Kragar

He’s addressing the House GOP. I’ve got the prepared text.

[Embedded content]

The sad part is that I got a “Should Obama be Impeached?” ad running on it.

111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:26:32pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

No, Dark. It’s a shutdown because the House GOP refuses to pass a continuing resolution. And if we default, it’ll be because the House GOP refuses to raise the debt ceiling.

You know better than try to MBF this.

Doesn’t it bother you that the GOP are making conservatives look like idiot liars by simultaneously claiming the ACA has failed while gibbering with fear at the idea of its implementation?

112 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:27:24pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

{{{D_F}}}

113 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:27:30pm

re: #108 Kragar

He’s addressing the House GOP. I’ve got the prepared text.

[Embedded content]

Think it’ll be closer to this:

Youtube Video

114 brennant  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:27:37pm

Cruz.

115 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:28:02pm

re: #111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

But it’s all about the deficit, man!

116 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:28:07pm

Attaching another Obamacare delay…

let that sink it.

Not the first time, and the GOP didn’t get anywhere the first time (or any of the 40+ attempts to repeal) but they’re going to keep trying, because they might scare someone into voting for this out of the very real fear of what a default looks like.

This is extortion. It’s not governance. That’s what the GOP is doing.

117 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:29:09pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Targeted keywords work great for things like entertainment or consumer goods, things where if you search for the actual item you’re targeting, the ad’s usually a pretty good match.

Not so great with politics, though. It often ends up showing ads for the opposite of a site’s political orientation, because the algorithms don’t distinguish between liberal/conservative, etc. If the algorithm sees “Obama” on the page, you’re likely to see the IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ads, because those groups are spending lots of money to spread their crap.

It costs them more when people click on them, as I understand it.

118 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:30:29pm

re: #103 b.d.

So sorry to hear that awful news Dark Falcon.

Bad, yes. Awful, no. Awful would have been after Christmas.

119 Teukka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:30:42pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Let’s be clear here though folks. It doesn’t matter what Democrat replaces President Obama. It could be Hillary, it could be Governor Cuomo or O’Malley, or someone else. They’re going to face this same shit. Obama albeit on a greater scale has faced much of the same crap that President Clinton did. And it all comes back to the right wing noise machine that took over the party in the Reagan era. We need something that completely discredits this brand of conservatism in the eyes of the public but unfortunately, they’re getting more vocal and angry since their vision of the country is changing i.e. more secular, less white, and more accepting of gays and lesbians.

Well, as far as discrediting them completely is concerned, my hunch is that finding ways to convince people that at least some of their policies are less than well founded is the ticket:

Economy - a lot of the research and theories are not as strong once you take the time to scratch the surface.
Environment - need I say more? This can happen spontaneously if there is a drastic change in climate in a way which can be tied to CC.

A word of caution though. There is a chance that a ball may start rolling that causes a cascade of questioning of everything they have ever said, which means there might be collateral damage in issues that they have abused themselves to reach their goal (whatever that might be).

120 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:31:31pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

That sucks. And I can definitely relate, since my most recent job changed from one week to the next. I’m sure you’ll land something else soon. Are there any Chicago job boards on FB or any alumni groups that you can use for contacts? They’re a godsend.

Thanks to alumni contacts. I had a great phone interview today for an account management gig at a digital advertising agency. The director I talked to is going to hook me up with the director I’d work for. If I can get that gig nailed down soon, I’d be back to work before I run out of severance. That would rule.

Good luck! And sorry about the job.

121 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:31:52pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Bad, yes. Awful, no. Awful would have been after Christmas.

Good attitude.

122 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:34:18pm

Boehner: Clean Continuing Resolution Is ‘Not Going To Happen’

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said Monday that the House would not accept a “clean” continuing resolution to fund the government — a bill without language defunding or delaying Obamacare already passed by the Senate — making the prospect of a shutdown almost certain to transpire come midnight.

“That’s not going to happen,” Boehner told a reporter at a press conference on Capitol Hill.

123 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:34:50pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Then its a shutdown, because neither side is just going to accept whats put in front of them.

Hello MBF! What do you think the GOP should accept? Certainly not reality.

124 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:35:45pm

re: #122 Kragar

Boehner: Clean Continuing Resolution Is ‘Not Going To Happen’

Worst. Speaker. Ever.

None of this would be happening if he hadn’t caved into the Teahadist faction and let them bring 40+ ZOMG REPEAL OBAMACARE bills to the floor.

125 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:36:05pm

re: #116 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Attaching another Obamacare delay…

let that sink it.

Not the first time, and the GOP didn’t get anywhere the first time (or any of the 40+ attempts to repeal) but they’re going to keep trying, because they might scare someone into voting for this out of the very real fear of what a default looks like.

This is extortion. It’s not governance. That’s what the GOP is doing.

Awful nice country you got there…

126 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:37:11pm

What the President needs to say:

“The inability of the House GOP to do its job shouldn’t affect the millions of Americans trying to do theirs. Using the powers granted by the Constitution, the Office of the President will make sure the US pays its bills on time.”

127 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:38:12pm
128 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:38:12pm

re: #126 Kragar

What the President needs to say:

“The inability of the House GOP to do its job shouldn’t affect the millions of Americans trying to do theirs. Using the powers granted by the Constitution, the Office of the President will make sure the US pays its bills on time.”

and ensure screams for Impeachment over usurpation of powers, etc…

129 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:38:15pm

re: #123 darthstar

Hello MBF! What do you think the GOP should accept? Certainly not reality.

I’d kind of favor a “Canada on Strike!” resolution whereby the loons got some trivial thing that let them pretend they’d won.

130 Bulworth  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:38:15pm

re: #122 Kragar

Why not?

131 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:39:12pm

The whole idea of “essential vs non-essential” forgets one thing: Being deemed “essential” does not mean you’ll be getting a paycheck. It means that the people in charge have deemed your job vital to bare-bones operation or emergency services. It means, in plain English, that for the duration of the shutdown, you’re working for no pay.

132 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:39:13pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I’d kind of favor a “Canada on Strike!” resolution whereby the loons got some trivial thing that let them pretend they’d won.

plastic gavels from the Congressional giftshop for King, Cruz, Bachmann, Gohmert, and co?

133 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:39:54pm

re: #128 Sol Berdinowitz

and ensure screams for Impeachment over usurpation of powers, etc…

Go for it. Let the GOP waste time pursuing charges that the Senate will never convict on.

134 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:39:55pm

re: #128 Sol Berdinowitz

and ensure screams for Impeachment over usurpation of powers, etc…

I’d love to see the House GOP try to impeach POTUS for making sure the US pays its debts. That would be a hoot coming from the “fiscal responsibility” party.

135 Ian G.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:40:17pm

re: #122 Kragar

Boehner: Clean Continuing Resolution Is ‘Not Going To Happen’

Honestly, this might be the most sane thing Boehner can do, because if he caves here, there’s no way the teabagger loons will ever let a debt ceiling increase go forward. On the flip side, if he goes ahead and lets the gasoline-soaked teabagger caucus light the match right now, he’ll be in position to cut a deal on the debt ceiling once the embers have gone out.

It’s the least-worst option if you assume that the GOP is somewhere between Kim Jong Il and David Koresh on the crazy scale, as I do.

136 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:40:26pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I’d kind of favor a “Canada on Strike!” resolution whereby the loons got some trivial thing that let them pretend they’d won.

Let them defund ACORN so the rest of us can get on with our lives.

137 Gus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:40:35pm
138 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:41:17pm

re: #122 Kragar

Boehner: Clean Continuing Resolution Is ‘Not Going To Happen’

Here’s the thing - The House could pass a clean CR any day, just by bringing it to the floor, but Boehner won’t allow a vote on it. Reid keeps bringing the House’s CRs to the Senate, where they’re voted on and defeated.

Whatever happend to the GOP wanting ‘upperdown votes’?

139 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:41:33pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I’d kind of favor a “Canada on Strike!” resolution whereby the loons got some trivial thing that let them pretend they’d won.

That’s rather how we got here, isn’t it? Wasn’t the sequester supposed to be a Pyrrhic victory for them, that the cuts contained within it would be so painful that both sides would rather compromise than impose them?

140 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:42:06pm

re: #136 Lidane

Let them defund ACORN so the rest of us can get on with our lives.

Hell give them all coloring books where they get to color in laws they want to defund. They can even draw a mustache on the outline of the picture of President Obama signing ACA or LBJ signing the CRA of ‘64 if that fills their little hearts to content.

141 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:42:30pm

re: #137 Gus

[Embedded content]

If Fox fired Rush on-air for being too crazy, I would respect them for a few seconds.

142 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:42:34pm

I know I’m being a wet blanket, but there’s something scarier than this guy being mentally ill.

Conspiracy theories aren’t distressing for believers; they’re comforting. Erik Rush may be thrashing about talking about this, but ultimately he finds it rewarding to believe. He get to be a bold rebel and prophet, and the people he doesn’t like aren’t just in disagreement, but a malefic goblins intent on the unspeakable.

Rush’s…and other similar “theories…may not be directly referential of the ur-conspiracy, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, but they all have the same tempo and meter because all are trying to force the same conclusion: that there are people out there that really deserve no empathy and need to be hurt to make the world right.

And sadly, that’s not just marketable amongst the “crazy.” Ordinary people love simple narratives of damning guilt and righteous retaliatory violence.

143 sagehen  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:43:46pm

re: #126 Kragar

What the President needs to say:

“The inability of the House GOP to do its job shouldn’t affect the millions of Americans trying to do theirs. Using the powers granted by the Constitution, the Office of the President will make sure the US pays its bills on time.”

I’m really warming up to that 14th Amendment clause…

144 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:43:58pm

Hell, the idea of giving the loons a symbolic “victory” is how we got 42 votes on repealing the ACA, despite the reality that they’d never go anywhere.

145 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:44:59pm

re: #138 GeneJockey

Here’s the thing - The House could pass a clean CR any day, just by bringing it to the floor, but Boehner won’t allow a vote on it. Reid keeps bringing the House’s CRs to the Senate, where they’re voted on and defeated.

Whatever happend to the GOP wanting ‘upperdown votes’?

That ship was torpedoed by a squadron of TPY ‘Teabagger’ DERP bombers.

146 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:50:39pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

That ship was torpedoed by a squadron of TPY ‘Teabagger’ DERP bombers.

Who are you, and what have you done with Dark Falcon?
///

147 Ace-o-aces  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 2:07:55pm

re: #44 Gus

OK, here’s the Press CORE site.

Check out the “stories” and categories.

OK, so I tried to figure out where they got this whole “Obama was going to nuke DC” idea. I’m not sure, because I don’t speak crazy, that it’s because 4 years ago the History Channel had a program where they showed what would happen if DC was nuked, and during that show there was a 50 second audio clip of Obama speaking about nuclear terrorism.

148 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 3:20:42pm

Let me just say that there is a lot of disappointment in these kinds of “sales” and it’s probably more so on the part of the woman.

I worked w/a woman from Moldova in retail in 2003; her husband was about 5’2”, gray haired, bespectacled guy probably in his 50s, an out of work engineer of some sort. She was, in her late 20s then, already overweight from having lived in the US for 7 or 8 yrs, and older looking as well. She also was not highly educated, although she had been to univ, and told me she had worked as a “cosmetic consultant” in Moldova. She didn’t speak very good English but could understand it, so didn’t talk a lot to other employees. What she told me, I had to approach her and try to make conversation, because I was interested in her and her story, but she was fairly reticent, and I just didn’t want to seem like I was prying. Don’t think she either wanted, or was allowed, to have friends at least at work. She had no kids, but that didn’t seem to bother her.

I didn’t get the impression she was very happy, and from the brief interactions I observed of her and her husband (he would come inside the store for her), he controlled everything about her life, including taking her paycheck. He brought her to work and picked her up, and IIRC, she didn’t know how to drive.


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