The Bob & Chez Show: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

Susan Sarandon, revolutionary
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Today’s program on our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

What Could Possibly Go Wrong: No Shows Next Week; Susan Sarandon Joins the Bernie or Bust Effort; The Underpants Gnome Business Model; The Two Party System; Trump’s Campaign Manager Turns Himself In; Trump’s Campaign Manager’s Lawyer Allegedly Bit a Stripper; Charles Blow Responds to Sarandon; The Revolution; Guns at the GOP Convention; Bill Maher Attacks Emory University Snowflakes; Gen X Accountability; HA Goodman’s Stupid Headline of the Day; and more.

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1
Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:06:28am

“BernieorBust,” aka “I’m privileged enough to know that my little temper tantrum will have no negative repercussions for me!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:06:43am

Any person can establish “sex-specific standards or policies concerning employee or student dress or grooming,” and can manage the access of restrooms and other sex-segregated facilities.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:07:44am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From the same party that wigs the fuck out over the burqa.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:08:55am
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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:09:17am

Damnit Janet.

Okay. Got that out of the way.

There’s no accounting for why anyone would listen to her on, well, anything outside her area of expertise, which is making movies. She doesn’t like Hillary? Okay. Sure, you’re entitled to your opinion, but if you think that because Bernie’s not the nominee, that you’ll end up with a better situation if Trump is president, then it’s clear that you haven’t been paying attention.

Trump, or any GOP candidate for president, would be a disaster. Rolling back all kinds of rights and privileges, though many of those rights and privileges are those that Sarandon takes for granted. She could afford to wait out the next four years, but millions of other Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and would be screwed by any GOP tax plan. They’d be the ones screwed by the GOP rolling back of civil and equal rights across the nation at all levels of government, and she seems to think that withholding a vote for Hillary is somehow principled.

That’s a serious mistake, and the reality is that either Bernie or Hillary is going to be better than any of the Republicans out there.

That’s why I can’t get too stressed about who the Democrats’ candidate will be, and why every Democrat has to make sure that they get out and vote in November to roll back the GOP at all levels of government.

Of course, you’ve got people like Shaun King who play MBF between Democrats and Republicans, noting that there are Democrats who will screw over minorities or are racists. Yes, Shaun, there are racists among Democrats, but at least Democrats are open to the idea of purging them from the ranks where possible, and trying to do better. Republicans aren’t interested in any of that, and they are showing that the only thing they care about is shifting burdens from the rich on to everyone else and saddling the nation with massive amounts of debt with no way to pay for critical services.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:12:59am

re: #5 lawhawk

Based on the Supreme Court, it won’t be four years, it’ll be more like 20.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:13:39am

re: #5 lawhawk

People of color don’t have the luxury of indulging in fantasies about “revolution.” A Republican presidency at this point, with these candidates and the level of overt racism in today’s conservative movement, would be an absolute disaster. And there would not be a revolution; that’s just stupid.

Sarandon is an over-privileged, selfish idiot.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:13:42am

re: #5 lawhawk

Sarandon’s position is easy to understand: She gets more public attention raging against a wingnut president than she does against a liberal one. If she can’t get her pony, then she’ll settle for 4 years of whining about how big of a tyrant Trump is, knowing when shit ever hits the fan, she’s got the money to leave for friendlier shores.

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:17:03am
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piratedan  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:17:24am

I can understand that economic issues can be seen as a panacea for all ills, but that really seems to give short shrift to misogyny, racism, foreign policy, science and the interpretation of the constitution (USSC) as other valid issues worth noting when making a decision for the POTUS. She’s free to die on that hill if she chooses but it seems that Conservatives aren’t the only ones that have their share of purity ponies.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:17:34am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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I don’t want to click on a link to Coulter. What does she claim Fields accused her of?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:19:17am

re: #8 Targetpractice

Sarandon’s position is easy to understand: She gets more public attention raging against a wingnut president than she does against a liberal one. If she can’t get her pony, then she’ll settle for 4 years of whining about how big of a tyrant Trump is, knowing when shit ever hits the fan, she’s got the money to leave for friendlier shores.

Heck, Trump would be great for her, she’d get a huge tax cut!

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:19:21am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

[ women can be fired for wearing pants]

In the days those people want to go back to, I didn’t have a job to be fired from. The most I could lose was my place in the lunch line. (We wore shorts under our skirts so we could play on the monkey bars.)

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:19:30am

re: #9 Kragar

Michelle Fields is finding out what happens to right wing women who dare to open their mouths about abuse. She’s facing a shitstorm of major proportions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:21:40am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Michelle Fields is finding out what happens to right wing women who dare to open their mouths about abuse. She’s facing a shitstorm of major proportions.

Hard to imagine she can ever work as a journalist again.

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:21:54am

Crap. When Susan Sarandon’s name is typed out as just “Sarandon” I can’t for the life of me pronounce it correctly in my head. I keep putting the emphasis in the front (Sair-andon instead of Sah-RAN-don).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:22:06am

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t want to click on a link to Coulter. What does she claim Fields accused her of?

She’s linking to a slimy GotNews hit piece on Fields. Chuck is acting outraged that Fields once tweeted a suspicion that he hacked into her computer - which, if she really knew Chuck, she’d know he doesn’t have a clue how to do something like that. It was not smart of her to tweet that - she gave Chuck something to attack her with, and he’s using it with help now from Ann Coulter, which means a LOT of people are going to see his crappy smear job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:22:47am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

People of color don’t have the luxury of indulging in fantasies about “revolution.” A Republican presidency at this point, with these candidates and the level of overt racism in today’s conservative movement, would be an absolute disaster. And there would not be a revolution; that’s just stupid.

Sarandon is an over-privileged, selfish idiot.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:23:56am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Michelle Fields is finding out what happens to right wing women who dare to open their mouths about abuse. She’s facing a shitstorm of major proportions.

The irony being she worked for a “news” website known for attacking rape/abuse victims in order to push the narrative that publicized cases are “hoaxes.”

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:23:57am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:26:15am

Hmmm, Twitter acting up, and the linky-no-worky. (it’s here).

This is getting quite the workout

UPDATE:
Looks like Popehat killed the tweet, which would explain it not working. The underlying tweet was a link to this Politico article about Rush and how he’s not going to discuss the matter:

By Wednesday, it was clear that Limbaugh had felt wrath from all comers.
“Because no matter what I say, I am convinced people cannot listen anymore, and no matter what I say, it is going to be misconstrued into one of two things: Either I am defending Lewandowski, or I am trying to destroy Trump in order to help Ted Cruz,” Limbaugh remarked. “And I have done neither, said neither.”
“Yesterday all I did on this program was to review for people who may not have been able to see the video because it was happening while the program was on the air, just telling people what had happened, and I commented on how much time CNN was spending on this,” the host said.Facebook

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The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:26:53am

re: #20 Kragar

Between Coulter and Robertson, Fields is now burned for a giant portion of her projected wingnut audience.

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:27:04am
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danarchy  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:27:34am

re: #20 Kragar

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Donald Trump has fucking Secret Service protection. Somehow I doubt if she was a legitimate threat Lewandowski would have been the first person to react.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:29:02am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know that the economy is not perfect, but one of the reasons that the President’s job approval rating is soaring lately is that the economy is continuing to crank out new jobs while Americans who have jobs are enjoying unprecedented job security. We need to build on what Democrats have accomplished the last seven years; not let Trump take a wrecking ball to it.
finance.yahoo.com

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piratedan  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:29:12am

re: #19 Targetpractice

looks like she’s being introduced to the concept that all of the claims that the left makes about the GOP not really caring about women and violence aren’t just hyperbole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:29:37am

and this is not a surprise to any sane thinking person:

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Archangelus  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:29:50am

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t want to click on a link to Coulter.

Perfectly understandable - no one in his or her right mind should willingly want to click on a link to The Vile One’s nastiness.

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:31:40am

re: #19 Targetpractice

The irony being she worked for a “news” website known for attacking rape/abuse victims in order to push the narrative that publicized cases are “hoaxes.”

‘Irony’ is not the right word, but I don’t know what is.

Never mind, ‘irony’ will do nicely.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:32:00am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

And she will remain a RWNJ for life.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:32:11am

re: #24 danarchy

Donald Trump has fucking Secret Service protection. Somehow I doubt if she was a legitimate threat Lewandowski would have been the first person to react.

Last night Trump was crapping out of his mouth hole he is the victim, she touched him first, he should SUE HER FOR TOUCHING HIM yada yada blah blah blah then when he got owned by Anderson Cooper he was all
WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHY, WHEN THEY ARE DROWN PEOPLE IN CAGES!! DROWNING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN BIG CAGES WHO CARES IF SOME GIRL REPORTER GOT PUSHED A LITTLE, SHE SHOULD JUST SHUT UP WHEN THEY ARE DROWNING PEOPLE IN BIG CAGES!!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:33:08am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

and this is not a surprise to any sane thinking person:

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Huge numbers of poor Kentuckians with chronic, debilitating illnesses like hypertension and diabetes are finally able to get treatment for it thanks to the ACA, and yet Obamacare is still a dirty word in Kentucky politics. Go figure.

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Lidane  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:33:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:34:10am
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piratedan  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:35:19am

re: #33 Lidane

maybe we should simply categorize them as The Walking Dumb

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:35:24am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:36:15am

re: #33 Lidane

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He’s not wrong about Trump fans. Fortunately, they are a minority, even in the GOP.

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Lidane  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:36:18am

This is fun. How soon before these women are smeared as a bunch of PC RINOs?

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Archangelus  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:36:36am

re: #35 piratedan

maybe we should simply categorize them as The Walking Dumb

“Should?” Some of us have already been doing just that for quite some time now…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:36:48am

re: #25 Big Beautiful Door

I know that the economy is not perfect, but one of the reasons that the President’s job approval rating is soaring lately is that the economy is continuing to crank out new jobs while Americans who have jobs are enjoying unprecedented job security. We need to build on what Democrats have accomplished the last seven years; not let Trump take a wrecking ball to it.
finance.yahoo.com

Can’t be. Scotty Walker sez Obama-Clinton administration a “failure”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:37:45am

re: #36 Kragar

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Maybe someone should point out to Trump that women have the right to vote, and actually make up a majority of the electorate.

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piratedan  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:37:50am

re: #40 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I mean, just look at Wisconsin…. hey, wait a minute……

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Ian G.  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:38:36am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

I can’t seem to find the quotes in a Google search, but Henry Rollins once said something to the effect of just wanting liberal celebrities (and he named Sarandon) to just shut up on stuff like this. He might agree with them 90% of the time, but rich and famous people have no idea what it’s like for 99% of people trying to get by in America.

If someone could find it, that would be excellent, as it’s my feelings exactly, and it’s good to see Hank self-aware of his place in society.

Also, I’d rather listen to Black Flag than watch any Susan Sarandon movie.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:38:53am

re: #38 Lidane

Conservative Female Journalists = Lefty Loons

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:38:53am
God Bless the Google Algorithm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:39:32am

re: #38 Lidane

This is fun. How soon before these women are smeared as a bunch of PC RINOs?

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I’m guessing Mary Chastain has her foot half out the door at Breitbart.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:39:39am

re: #45 Franklin

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Isn’t that D.B. Cooper?

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:39:49am

Right, the GOP is just like Hillary. To wit - and this is Trump today:

Savor the consequences of that for a moment. Trump is calling for punishment of women who utilize a legal medical procedure. This fuckstain is calling for criminalizing women.

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:40:30am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:41:58am

re: #48 lawhawk

NEW Trump to @msnbc: “there has to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions but he has yet to determine what that should be.
— Ali Vitali

Get a committee of men, and Phylis Shlafly, together and let them decide the appropriate punishment.

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KGxvi  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:42:00am

re: #36 Kragar

“There should be some sort of punishment for people who go to church”

“There should be some sort of punishment for people who refuse to allow police to search their homes without a warrant”

“There should be some sort of punishment for people who publish unflattering stories about public figures”

“There should be some sort of punishment for people who purchase firearms”

“There should be some sort of punishment for people who refuse to testify against themselves at trial”

None of these statements make anymore sense than that Trump statement

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:42:41am

re: #48 lawhawk

Right, the GOP is just like Hillary. To wit - and this is Trump today:

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Savor the consequences of that for a moment. Trump is calling for punishment of women who utilize a legal medical procedure. This fuckstain is calling for criminalizing women.

“Trump and Hillary are no different!”

“Trump’s a liberal plant!”

Two sides of the same derp.

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Ming5000  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:43:05am

re: #16 Franklin

Can you smell burnt popcorn?

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Ian G.  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:43:31am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Michelle Fields is finding out what happens to right wing women who dare to open their mouths about abuse. She’s facing a shitstorm of major proportions.

It also feels like what happens to public dissenters in a dictatorship. Trump just doesn’t have a secret police to imprison Fields….yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:43:46am

re: #33 Lidane

Carson: Trump Fans Don’t Care About Rational Arguments, So Stop Trying to Convince Them

He has a thoroughly valid point. DT is the master of the Tweet and the sound byte. Taken individually, some of them do not seem completely bat-shit crazy. But DT knows that his supporters are too media-ADD to read a whole critical article about him or even step back and look at the big picture.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:44:19am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:45:32am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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Don’t worry, says Sarandon, forcing women to have back alley abortions will hasten the revolution!

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:45:44am

re: #50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Get a committee of men, and Phylis Shlafly, together and let them decide the appropriate punishment.

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And then mail them all the used feminine hygiene supplies available, because you can never know for sure…

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Ian G.  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:46:21am

re: #49 Kragar

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Good lord. I’ll admit to never having used trigonometry past high school/college, but what white collar job doesn’t require a decent bit of algebra?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:46:48am

re: #33 Lidane

Believe in America

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:47:49am

But wait, there’s more. The more Trump talks (and it appears to be stream of conscious uncoupling from reality BS), the more he sounds like a misogynist divorced from reality. Criminalize women who have abortions. Make abortions illegal.

Who does he think will be the victims of these GOP policies? Women who don’t have the means - the poor. Because they’ll be forced to carry to term and raise a child that they may not have the ability to do because the same GOP refuses to provide for a safety net and prioritizes tax cuts for the rich over health care for everyone or health benefits for the poor, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:48:08am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:48:26am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:48:27am

I did poorly in math in high school, so I forced myself to overcome that disability and went on to earn a college degree in math.

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:49:02am

re: #59 Ian G.

Fox News Analyst

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:50:04am

re: #33 Lidane

Carson: Trump Fans Don’t Care About Rational Arguments, So Stop Trying to Convince Them

This is still Obama’s fault, right?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:50:07am

re: #61 lawhawk

But wait, there’s more. The more Trump talks (and it appears to be stream of conscious uncoupling from reality BS), the more he sounds like a misogynist divorced from reality. Criminalize women who have abortions. Make abortions illegal.

Who does he think will be the victims of these GOP policies? Women who don’t have the means - the poor. Because they’ll be forced to carry to term and raise a child that they may not have the ability to do because the same GOP refuses to provide for a safety net and prioritizes tax cuts for the rich over health care for everyone or health benefits for the poor, etc.

THE POOR WOMEN, AND I LOVE ALL WOMEN, ESPECIALLY THE POOR WOMEN! THE POOR WOMEN CAN ALWAYS GET ON A FLIGHT TO SWEDEN OR CANADA OR MEXICO IF THEY ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE AN ABORTION. I AM SO POPULAR WITH ALL THE WOMEN!!

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Franklin  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:51:16am

re: #65 Kragar

Fox News Analyst

Don’t you mean:

Fox “News” Analyst?

or, I suppose:

Fox News “Analyst”?

or, maybe:

Asshat?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:51:30am
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:51:33am

re: #63 Kragar

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Wasn’t this the guy who argued during a debate that he wasn’t going to stand on the stage and argue that people should be allowed to die in the streets?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:53:47am

re: #70 Targetpractice

Wasn’t this the guy who argued during a debate that he wasn’t going to stand on the stage and argue that people should be allowed to die in the streets?

back alleys are not streets, my friend…

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Kragar  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:55:02am
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Archangelus  Mar 30, 2016 • 11:55:56am

re: #68 Franklin

Fox News Analyst - three separate words that shouldn’t really work in any combination excluding a description of someone who actually analyzes news or someone who analyzes foxes…

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:05:45pm

re: #9 Kragar

Right Wing Watch ‎@RightWingWatch

Michael Savage says “maniac” Michelle Fields faked it: “How do we know her boyfriend didn’t put the mark on her arm” bit.ly

2:13 PM - 30 Mar 2016

This whole episode sure is showing that not only Trump is an arrogant spoiled man-boy but all these “conservative” radio talkers and media people are spoiled children. They lie, they deceive, they cover-up for each other. And yet, they claim they are the good ones, the saved, the religious.

Sad to say, anymore when I hear someone call themselves a conservative it means you have to watch out and their trust needs to be earned. It didn’t used to be like that, but damn since Reagan it sure has become more and more true.

And yes, there are good conservatives and good religious people. I hope they can all help rid their ranks of the rank!

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:28:46pm

re: #33 Lidane

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Dr. Ben Carson. Please do us all a favor. Shut up and go away.

If anyone needs further proof that being an expert at a one thing does not make you an expert of everything (or, anything else), Dr. Ben is that proof.

I’m actually to the point of wondering how the hell he got to where he got to in life. What a strange man.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:30:00pm

re: #48 lawhawk

Right, the GOP is just like Hillary. To wit - and this is Trump today:

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Savor the consequences of that for a moment. Trump is calling for punishment of women who utilize a legal medical procedure. This fuckstain is calling for criminalizing women.

Then will the man in the equation be charged as accessory?

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ObserverArt  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:33:04pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe someone should point out to Trump that women have the right to vote, and actually make up a majority of the electorate.

No don’t. Let him learn that the hard way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:34:54pm

re: #76 Eventual Carrion

Then will the man in the equation be charged as accessory?

nope. Trump said men aren’t responsible.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:37:02pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Guess that answers my earlier question.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:38:15pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And nothing happens to him if he splits and doesn’t at least financially take care of his offspring.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2016 • 12:39:17pm

re: #68 Franklin

Don’t you mean:

Fox “News” Analyst?

or, I suppose:

Fox News “Analyst”?

or, maybe:

Asshat?

AnalCyst


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