re: #26 wrenchwench

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I don’t think we’ve reached a point of no return, but the other points are better.

We also need to include the dislocation that the mortgage debacle caused to so many people. The fear from economic collapse overlapped with the fear of Obama to really send the conservatives into their cult.

But, we have gone through several periods before where we needed to reorder our society to deal with these sorts of economic, social and political dislocations (ie Revolutonary war, Civil War and WW2). The average time is about 17 years to get through these. With the mortgage scam falling in 2007, we should be much closer to the end than the beginning.

Things do seem to be headed this way but the next few months will tell.