Pamela Geller: Obama Went to Chicago to Meet Farrakhan and the Media Covered It Up

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Wingnut blogger Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller is working herself up into a fine lather today over reports of a confrontation between Secret Service and Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam bodyguards. In Geller’s out-of-control imagination, this is proof that President Obama actually went to Chicago because he needed to meet with Louis Farrakhan to plot more evil tyranny in the name of black supremacism.

Yes, really. Geller, of course, is the hate-filled moron who previously posted in complete seriousness that Barack Obama was the illegitimate child of Malcolm X, so in her weird world of bigotry this is the kind of absurd accusation that makes perfect sense.

In the course of her usual illiterate ranting, Geller eventually notices that there are no reports of Obama meeting with Farrakhan.

Does she withdraw the accusation? Of course not, silly! The lack of evidence means the media are covering it up! And to back up her fantasies, she even dredges up the long-debunked canard that Louis Farrakhan visited the White House.

Savor the twisted craziness of Pamela Geller, hero of the right wing blogosphere: ATLAS EXCLUSIVE: President Obama Skips Arlington for Chicago BBQ - Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam Thugs Skirmish with Secret Service and Press pool - Atlas Shrugs.

Notice that this is an “EXCLUSIVE!” even though there’s nothing exclusive about it except its sheer insanity. Also notice that Geller, a prolific thief who regularly steals dozens of photos at a time from media and other sources, posts entire copyrighted articles without permission, and has even stolen graphics from LGF (to deface them), now puts a copyright notice at the bottom of her hate posts.

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1 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 10:57:37am

"now puts a copyright notice at the bottom of her hate posts."

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

2 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 10:59:33am

Robert Spencer, the ever-reasonable non-hater of Islam, uses Geller as his crazee cat's paw.

3 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 30, 2010 10:59:51am

I can't wait to see her craziness crossposted to American Thinker and Brietbart's sites.

4 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:00:15am

It's odd that the story would have any kind of traction at all, when you get right down to it.

As I noted last thread - why would he meet with the man who ordered the assassination of his father, Malcolm X? //

5 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:02:40am

re: #1 jamesfirecat

Who is Pam Gellar?

(Sounds like we're playing Final Jeopardy.)

6 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:03:12am

re: #4 Guanxi88

It's odd that the story would have any kind of traction at all, when you get right down to it.

As I noted last thread - why would he meet with the man who ordered the assassination of his father, Malcolm X? //

///Because if Malcolm X were alive today it'd be possible to get a DNA sample from him and prove that Obama is his son! Don't you realize that Obama wanted to have his father killed to clear the way for his rise to power?

7 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:04:13am

Obama's Chicago weekend was an inside job!

//Even the media covered it up!

/

8 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:04:21am

This stuff is all good fun, of course. It's not as if anyone seriously believes there's any connection between the two men, Ms. Gellar's claims notwithstanding.

9 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:05:02am

re: #6 jamesfirecat

///Because if Malcolm X were alive today it'd be possible to get a DNA sample from him and prove that Obama is his son! Don't you realize that Obama wanted to have his father killed to clear the way for his rise to power?

Is there no one safe from this man's thuggish ambition?

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:05:40am

re: #8 Guanxi88

This stuff is all good fun, of course. It's not as if anyone seriously believes there's any connection between the two men, Ms. Gellar's claims notwithstanding.

You must not have seen the comments being posted at any right wing website. There are a LOT of people who seriously believe this stuff.

11 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:06:30am

re: #9 Guanxi88

Is there no one safe from this man's thuggish ambition?

This just in Obama causes own mother horrific amounts of pain and does unrepairable damage to her sexual organs in the process of being born.....

12 Ojoe  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:06:45am

Geller's torpedos.

13 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:07:47am

Facts, schmacts. She's a smear merchant.

14 albusteve  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:08:56am

re: #3 Killgore Trout

I can't wait to see her craziness crossposted to American Thinker and Brietbart's sites.

really a shame what's happened with Am Thinker...one of many I guess

15 bratwurst  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:08:59am

re: #8 Guanxi88

This stuff is all good fun, of course.

This is your idea of good fun? Note to self: don't go to parties at Guanxi's house! ;)

16 albusteve  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:09:19am

re: #12 Ojoe

Geller's torpedos.

too big

17 Ojoe  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:10:43am

re: #16 albusteve

Is there anything to support that?

18 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:10:50am

re: #15 bratwurst

This is your idea of good fun? Note to self: don't go to parties at Guanxi's house! ;)

I had a childhood and family life that, in describing it to others, has been characterized as abusive; we thought it was all in good fun.

I shared the story of the worst smack-down ever from my mother:

She: "you lousy son of a bitch!"

Me: "You don't see the humor in that, do you?"

Slapped the taste outta my mouth, and we both laughed about it later.

19 What, me worry?  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:14:05am

re: #8 Guanxi88

This stuff is all good fun, of course. It's not as if anyone seriously believes there's any connection between the two men, Ms. Gellar's claims notwithstanding.

There's a theme that runs through all of this about Obama and it's perpetuated in her comments on that article. Obama is a liar. Obama is illegal. Obama hates the U.S. It's everywhere on the rightwing sites, and might I add, all over that vile chat last night that I can't seem to get over...

20 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:14:47am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Facts, schmacts. She's a smear merchant.

The best and the brightest along with her sidekick, the orbicular Bobby Spencer. That's what happens when you inherit millions from your dead husband's car dealership and sit around the house drinking white wine for breakfast.

21 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:15:36am

Louis Farrakhan got up at the Million Man March and told black men to get off the drugs, get a job and start taking some responsibility for their families and communities.

Who can argue with that, right or left?

22 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:15:46am

I think these stories, and other sorts of narratives mythologizing the extent of the current President's radical associations - stories which I myself once believed - will never really go away. I will say, though, that speculation about seekrit meetings between W and, say David Duke, would be a lot harder to sell.

23 MandyManners  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:16:34am

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

24 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:16:36am

re: #21 ralphieboy

Louis Farrakhan got up at the Million Man March and told black men to get off the drugs, get a job and start taking some responsibility for their families and communities.

Who can argue with that, right or left?

Self uplift is the best part of what they preach and teach; it's a package deal, though.

25 SpaceJesus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:16:53am

I think I have the solution to the oil leak in the Gulf: plug it up with Pamella Geller and works by Ayn Rand.

26 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:17:11am

re: #22 Guanxi88

I think these stories, and other sorts of narratives mythologizing the extent of the current President's radical associations - stories which I myself once believed - will never really go away. I will say, though, that speculation about seekrit meetings between W and, say David Duke, would be a lot harder to sell.

Yeah. I don't ever see Clinton getting out from under these accusations.

Oh, I mean Obama...

27 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:17:13am

re: #16 albusteve

too big

Fake, with chicken legs underneath.

Bleargh!

28 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:17:51am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

Bad enough? Are you among those upset at him for not going?

29 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:17:55am

re: #22 Guanxi88

I think these stories, and other sorts of narratives mythologizing the extent of the current President's radical associations - stories which I myself once believed - will never really go away. I will say, though, that speculation about seekrit meetings between W and, say David Duke, would be a lot harder to sell.

His meetings with "Kenny Boy" Lay and "Buff Guy" Abramoff are documented.

30 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:18:07am

re: #25 SpaceJesus

I think I have the solution to the oil leak in the Gulf: plug it up with Pamella Geller and works by Ayn Rand.

One large-print edition of Atlas Shrugs would more than meet the case, but the real question is whether we have the sea lift capacity to get it out there.

31 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:18:20am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

Ronald Reagan spent Memorial Day at his ranch in 1987. Guess he hated America too.

32 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:18:41am

re: #29 ralphieboy

His meetings with "Kenny Boy" Lay and "Buff Guy" Abramoff are documented.

Yeah, sleazy businessmen; i was thinking more along the lines of radicals than dirt-bags.

33 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:03am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

No it isn't.

In 1983 Deputy Secretary of Defense W. Paul Thayer laid a wreath at Arlington Cemetery during the Memorial Day ceremony, according to a May 31, 1983, Washington Post article. The AP reported that President Reagan attended a "summit meeting in Williamsburg, Va., with leaders of the industrialized democracies.

Vice President Dan Quayle laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, according to a May 26, 1992, Boston Globe article. The Globe reported that President George H.W. Bush attended a wreath-laying ceremony and made brief remarks at an American Legion hall in Kennebunkport, Maine, where he also played a round of golf.

Both Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush skipped out at laying a wreath, and Reagan didn't even bother to send his vice president how shocking!

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:09am

re: #30 Guanxi88

One large-print edition of Atlas Shrugs would more than meet the case, but the real question is whether we have the sea lift capacity to get it out there.


It might have a greater toxic effect on the maritime life than the oil...what if all the mollusks "go Galt"?

35 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:09am

re: #10 Charles

You must not have seen the comments being posted at any right wing website. There are a LOT of people who seriously believe this stuff.

I was about to ask how seriously right wingers take her...wow. Is she really mentally ill or is it attention seeking. Both?

36 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:18am

re: #28 JasonA

Bad enough? Are you among those upset at him for not going?

Betcha she thought it was just fine when Bush Baby delegated to the Heart Attack Machine...

37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:22am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

Oh yeah, symbolic theater, that's why I vote for presidents 9_9

38 MandyManners  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:36am

I have no love lost for Farrakhan.

39 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:19:49am

re: #32 Guanxi88

Yeah, sleazy businessmen; i was thinking more along the lines of radicals than dirt-bags.


Who has done more harm to more innocent people in recent years? DeLay or the ex-Weathermen?

40 gatoratlaw  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:20:15am

Its astounding to me just how similar the far-right and the far-left are. I remember thinking, back during Bush's presidency, how the code pink whackos and the michael moores and the rest of the loonies were, well, loonies. The right seemed to at least be level-headed and somewhat rational.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, its abundantly clear that I was profoundly mistaken.

The far-right is arguably even more paranoid and delusional than the far left. The Shrieking Harpy's logic is exemplary. She wants people to believe that Obama went to Chicago to meet with Farrakhan. Her evidence? Well, she doesn't have any affirmative evidence. What she DOES have, however, is the exquisitely cultivated talking point that the media is composed entirely of dirty lib'rals how are in cahoots with The Obama Deception. Thus, the fact that the media isn't reporting her delusions as fact means, ipso facto, that her delusions ARE fact.

Obama is a muslim. The media isn't reporting it, so it must be fact. Obama is a seekrit mooselim. Not reported, must be fact. On and on. The far-right has successfully turned paranoid delusion into fact, and everyone from Limbaugh to FNC to Hannity to Coulter is in on it.

They can make any outlandish claim 'true' just by invoking the old 'well, the media is just a bunch of leftists in cahoots with the socialist government. Trust me.' That is profoundly dangerous.

41 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:20:28am

re: #36 Cato the Elder

Betcha she thought it was just fine when Bush Baby delegated to the Heart Attack Machine...

It's hard to take people seriously when this is what's on their minds.

42 bratwurst  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:20:37am

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

43 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:20:49am

re: #34 ralphieboy

It might have a greater toxic effect on the maritime life than the oil...what if all the mollusks "go Galt"?

They'd start behaving in the most positively shellfish manner imaginable!

44 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:17am

re: #28 JasonA

Bad enough? Are you among those upset at him for not going?

That is all.

45 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:26am

re: #42 bratwurst

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

Nice to find out who the hypocrites are.

46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:28am

re: #35 beekiller

I was about to ask how seriously right wingers take her...wow. Is she really mentally ill or is it attention seeking. Both?

I always assume that it's a work, that it's obvious attention seeking and self-promotion at any cost, but Geller...I'm not sure! She just gives off these Gene Ray vibes, I've heard her on the radio as well, she sounds just as crazy.

47 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:36am

re: #31 Charles

Ronald Reagan spent Memorial Day at his ranch in 1987. Guess he hated America too.

You can say that a million time but apparently some people refuse to let it sink in.

48 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:38am

re: #42 bratwurst

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

Classic.

But let's be outraged at Barack Obama!

49 What, me worry?  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:42am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

He's going to the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery in Elwood.

[Link: www.wgntv.com...]

50 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:22:28am

re: #49 marjoriemoon

He's going to the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery in Elwood.

[Link: www.wgntv.com...]

Those soldiers weren't good enough for a presidential visit. Well, that's what I'm hearing, at least.

51 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:23:10am

re: #47 Gus 802

You can say that a million time but apparently some people refuse to let it sink in.

We were told here a few days ago that it's different for Obama. Because of how much the troops know that he hates them. Or something.

52 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:23:19am

re: #42 bratwurst

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

Well, to be fair, there are some questions about Obama's citizenship, hahaha

53 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:23:43am
Bob: President Obama isn't going to Arlington Cemetery this Memorial Day!

Joe: Yeah, but previous presidents didn't go to Arlington Cemetery on Memorial Day, including Ronald Reagan.

Bob: Well that's different!

54 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:23:52am

re: #39 ralphieboy

Who has done more harm to more innocent people in recent years? DeLay or the ex-Weathermen?

You know this reminds me of a talk a Golem gives in Going Postal by Terry Pratchett to a thief who claims never to have killed anyone and the Golem calculate exactly how many parts of various people's lives he's stolen and how it adds up to him having taken several dozen lives....

55 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:24:33am

re: #50 JasonA

Those soldiers weren't good enough for a presidential visit. Well, that's what I'm hearing, at least.

Well, see, if you're a soldier buried in Arlington, that just means you were a superior soldier to all the other soldiers

///

56 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:24:57am

re: #43 jamesfirecat

They'd start behaving in the most positively shellfish manner imaginable!


Atlantis Shrugged?

57 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:25:16am

re: #51 Renaissance_Man

We were told here a few days ago that it's different for Obama. Because of how much the troops know that he hates them. Or something.

Yep. Keep forgetting the Reverse Osmosis Logic Clause™. Handy for incidents such as these.

58 darthstar  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:25:55am

re: #31 Charles

Ronald Reagan spent Memorial Day at his ranch in 1987. Guess he hated America too.

I didn't know Reagan was Kenyan too.
/

59 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:27:07am

Do not confuse Geller with Gellar, people.

The one humps vampires. The One stakes their asses!

60 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:27:12am

re: #47 Gus 802

You can say that a million time but apparently some people refuse to let it sink in.

Holistic logic at work my friend. Anything you want can be true as long as you believe in the necessary things to make it true.

Or as Monty Python put it...

No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

61 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:27:12am

Wow. Clinton went to Arlington for each of his 8 years. Most patriotic president evar!!!11!!

62 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:27:36am

re: #31 Charles

Ronald Reagan spent Memorial Day at his ranch in 1987. Guess he hated America too.

He did give a little talk three days earlier, at a memorial service for the crewmen killed on the Stark. That's probably what makes people forget that he didn't go to Arlington that year.

63 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:27:56am

re: #59 Cato the Elder

I... I really prefer to know nothing of Geller's sex life, Cato.

64 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:28:10am

re: #60 jamesfirecat

Holistic logic at work my friend. Anything you want can be true as long as you believe in the necessary things to make it true.

Or as Monty Python put it...

No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

Just thought of another one...

Anaerobic Logic

/

65 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:28:16am

re: #62 Guanxi88

He did give a little talk three days earlier, at a memorial service for the crewmen killed on the Stark. That's probably what makes people forget that he didn't go to Arlington that year.

Bullshit.

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:28:58am

re: #61 JasonA

Wow. Clinton went to Arlington for each of his 8 years. Most patriotic president evar!!!11!!

No no no, that's not right, he's a philanderer. If he sets foot in Arlington as a philanderer, he triggers the wards and immediately bursts into flames. That was clearly a Clinton body double!

67 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:29:07am

re: #65 Cato the Elder

Bullshit.


Point is, this is a nontroversy and these wingnuts did not even bother to Google far back enough to cover their asses.

68 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:29:29am

re: #65 Cato the Elder

Bullshit.

If you pull up Reagan Memorial 1987, all the hits are for the Stark service; lazy folk that most of us are, that's enough to "confirm" that he was there.

And, yeah, lotta folk don't like BHO and will latch onto any excuse to kick at him.

70 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:30:40am

re: #66 WindUpBird

No no no, that's not right, he's a philanderer. If he sets foot in Arlington as a philanderer, he triggers the wards and immediately bursts into flames. That was clearly a Clinton body double!

As I understand it, there are some parts of Greater Wingnuttia that are actually pleased that Obama is not visiting Arlington. Because, and I quote, his presence would profane hallowed ground.

71 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:30:43am

Reagan sold out America to Iran so he could get money for his illegal wars in Central America.

What's not to love?

72 The Curmudgeon  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:31:10am

Charles says:

Geller, of course, is the hate-filled moron who previously posted in complete seriousness that Barack Obama was the illegitimate child of Malcolm X ...

She's an idiot! Everyone knows his true father was Lex Luthor.

73 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:31:14am

re: #70 Renaissance_Man

As I understand it, there are some parts of Greater Wingnuttia that are actually pleased that Obama is not visiting Arlington. Because, and I quote, his presence would profane hallowed ground.

Nothing anyone could ever do could profane that soil.

74 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:31:27am

re: #68 Guanxi88

If you pull up Reagan Memorial 1987, all the hits are for the Stark service; lazy folk that most of us are, that's enough to "confirm" that he was there.

And, yeah, lotta folk don't like BHO and will latch onto any excuse to kick at him.

Years from now people will Google Obama Memorial Day 2010 and they'll mostly turn up this.

75 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:31:44am

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Reagan sold out America to Iran so he could get money for his illegal wars in Central America.

What's not to love?

It seemed like a "neat idea" to quote someone or other whose name escapes me.

76 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:32:50am

re: #70 Renaissance_Man

As I understand it, there are some parts of Greater Wingnuttia that are actually pleased that Obama is not visiting Arlington. Because, and I quote, his presence would profane hallowed ground.

Are you serious?!?!?!

I'm making, like, Freddy Kreuger jokes, and they actually believe that stuff? I wonder how people like that manage to feed themselves breakfast without choking on the spoon.

77 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:33:08am

re: #72 The Curmudgeon

Charles says:

She's an idiot! Everyone knows his true father was Lex Luthor.

That's why Obama has so little hair!

It all makes sense now!

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:33:15am

re: #74 Gus 802

ahahahaha dying

79 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:34:14am

re: #76 WindUpBird

Are you serious?!?!?!

I'm making, like, Freddy Kreuger jokes, and they actually believe that stuff? I wonder how people like that manage to feed themselves breakfast without choking on the spoon.

They do not e eat, they subsist on a diet of pure rage.

80 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:34:28am

re: #76 WindUpBird

Are you serious?!?!?!

I'm making, like, Freddy Kreuger jokes, and they actually believe that stuff? I wonder how people like that manage to feed themselves breakfast without choking on the spoon.

I've read it in two separate places (ie. not linked to each other), Redstate being one.

81 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:36:28am

re: #79 jamesfirecat

They do not e eat, they subsist on a diet of pure rage.

Heh. Now I'll start picturing them as the zombies from 28 Days Later.

82 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:36:40am

re: #80 Renaissance_Man

I've read it in two separate places (ie. not linked to each other), Redstate being one.

Well bummer for them, cause he's already been to Arlington and I'm sure he'll go again.

What a crock. False patriotism once again.

83 What, me worry?  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:38:14am

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Reagan sold out America to Iran so he could get money for his illegal wars in Central America.

What's not to love?

I work with a woman who, as an 8 yr old child, ran from the Contras with her family, literally with only the clothes on their backs. I don't talk to her about Reagan.

84 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:38:33am

I will say this, though: If Rahm were in town, Obama would never have made such a footling error. As mindful of his image as he needs to be, Rahm would have made sure to have him there.

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:39:34am

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Well bummer for them, cause he's already been to Arlington and I'm sure he'll go again.

What a crock. False patriotism once again.

The clamor keeps rising on the right for Obama to make increasingly specific symbolic gestures, and then they're all fake-ass bullshit outraged and on their fainting couches when he doesn't fulfill their Symbolic Gesture Quota. That was all the rage when the oil spill hit the news. WHY DOESN'T HE MAKE A MEANINGLESS SYMBOLIC GESTURE

86 darthstar  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:39:54am

Hm...Sun is shining...temps in the mid-60s on the coast, two dogs looking at me as if to say, "Get off the fucking computer, dad...there's beach to be run." So that's what I'm going to do.

Enjoy your day, everyone.

87 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:40:38am

re: #84 Guanxi88

I will say this, though: If Rahm were in town, Obama would never have made such a footling error. As mindful of his image as he needs to be, Rahm would have made sure to have him there.

What? So you're saying Obama needs to give into the frothing rage of idiots like this who will throw a hissy fit if her puts one toe out of line and act in a way to make sure no one on the right could possibly get mad at him?

88 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:41:16am

re: #84 Guanxi88

I will say this, though: If Rahm were in town, Obama would never have made such a footling error. As mindful of his image as he needs to be, Rahm would have made sure to have him there.

And again: when those enraged are the same people who fly into conspiracy-fuelled apoplectic rage when you go to your daughter's soccer game, it is both irrelevant and unnecessary to be mindful of your image towards them.

89 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:41:23am

Was the right outraged when Cheney laid the wreath and not Bush???

90 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:41:32am

re: #87 jamesfirecat

What? So you're saying Obama needs to give into the frothing rage of idiots like this who will throw a hissy fit if her puts one toe out of line and act in a way to make sure no one on the right could possibly get mad at him?

hahaha don't even bother, the logic contortions necessary would give any sane man the bends

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:42:19am

re: #4 Guanxi88

It's odd that the story would have any kind of traction at all, when you get right down to it.

As I noted last thread - why would he meet with the man who ordered the assassination of his father, Malcolm X? //

HOWL.

92 rwdflynavy  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:42:21am

re: #90 WindUpBird

hahaha don't even bother, the logic contortions necessary would give any sane man the bends

Pretzel bends or scuba bends?
//

93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:42:39am

re: #88 Renaissance_Man

And again: when those enraged are the same people who fly into conspiracy-fuelled apoplectic rage when you go to your daughter's soccer game, it is both irrelevant and unnecessary to be mindful of your image towards them.

The dumb, it cannot be escaped

It is all around us, like ether

94 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:42:45am

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

HOWL.

Howls of derisive laughter Bruce!

95 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:43:00am

re: #84 Guanxi88

I will say this, though: If Rahm were in town, Obama would never have made such a footling error. As mindful of his image as he needs to be, Rahm would have made sure to have him there.

More bullshit.

What "error"?

96 avanti  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:43:54am

re: #42 bratwurst

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

After reading that link, it appears Clinton was the last patrotic POTUS, visting all 8 years./

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:44:06am

re: #6 jamesfirecat

///Because if Malcolm X were alive today it'd be possible to get a DNA sample from him and prove that Obama is his son! Don't you realize that Obama wanted to have his father killed to clear the way for his rise to power?

I'd start a Facebook group demanding that Malcolm X be exhumed so we can confirm a genetic link to Obama--but I'm afraid it would get followers. Who didn't understand that it was a joke.

98 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:44:17am

re: #89 Varek Raith

Was the right outraged when Cheney laid the wreath and not Bush???

There's always someone available and time to practice the ancient Greco-Roman tradition.

It's probably all against the Establishment Clause anyway but I won't get into that.

99 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:45:00am

re: #95 Cato the Elder

More bullshit.

What "error"?

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

100 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:45:53am

re: #61 JasonA

Wow. Clinton went to Arlington for each of his 8 years. Most patriotic president evar!!!11!!

But, but... What about Monica Lewinsky! What about Whitewater and Vince Foster!1111!111

/

101 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:45:54am

re: #94 jamesfirecat

Howls of derisive laughter Bruce!

This is the wattle, symbol of our land
You can stick it in a bottle, or ya can hold it in your hand.

102 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:46:17am

re: #99 Guanxi88

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

F*** off. If Obama feels like he must plan his schedule to avoid stepping on any cracks less these idiots fear that he will have laid a curse upon them which will break their mother's backs then we as a nation have already lost.

I hope that Obama continues to care more about being a good president than being a two term one.....

103 rwdflynavy  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:46:39am

re: #100 Gus 802

But, but... What about Monica Lewinsky! What about Whitewater and Vince Foster!1111!111

/

I don't think they went to Arlington...
//

104 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:46:52am

re: #99 Guanxi88

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

The same folkish "folk" who whinge about his not being there would shriek if he was.

When you're gonna be hated whatever you do, do what pleases you.

105 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:47:25am

Her site is creepy! (I just looked at it for the second time.) It reminds me of the yucky feeling you get in your stomach when you browse sites like rotten.com

106 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:47:47am

re: #102 jamesfirecat

F*** off. If Obama feels like he must plan his schedule to avoid stepping on any cracks less these idiots fear that he will have laid a curse upon them which will break their mother's backs then we as a nation have already lost.

I hope that Obama continues to care more about being a good president than being a two term one...

We as a nation have lost, in case you hadn't noticed.

107 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:48:12am

re: #103 rwdflynavy

I don't think they went to Arlington...
//

Why am I suddenly reminded of a certain part of "In the Heat of the Night"...?

108 avanti  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:48:26am

re: #100 Gus 802

But, but... What about Monica Lewinsky! What about Whitewater and Vince Foster!1111!111

/

Yea, Lewinsky, blew it off./

109 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:48:29am

re: #104 Cato the Elder

The same folkish "folk" who whinge about his not being there would shriek if he was.

When you're gonna be hated whatever you do, do what pleases you.

There is a lot of sound patrician wisdom in your words, as to be expected.

And i thought they were "volkisch"

110 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:48:36am

re: #21 ralphieboy

Louis Farrakhan got up at the Million Man March and told black men to get off the drugs, get a job and start taking some responsibility for their families and communities.

Who can argue with that, right or left?

That I'm not going to complain about. There have been, let us say, a few less socially useful moments of his career.

But I do not come to criticize Farrakhan, but instead to make fun of Pam Geller.

111 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:04am

re: #106 Guanxi88

We as a nation have lost, in case you hadn't noticed.

What are you smokin' today?

112 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:10am

This just in.

"GOP helps orchestrate outrage over Obama not attending Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, 2010."

"Next week, the GOP blocks legislation for expanding veteran's benefits in congress."

Film @ 11.

/

113 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:24am

re: #111 Cato the Elder

What are you smokin' today?

Outta snuff, and so in a dark mood.

114 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:25am

re: #99 Guanxi88

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

Somehow I doubt that the response will suddenly change to,

"Well, he's a foreigner Manchurian candidate who hates all that is good and right and is trying to destroy this great nation and enslave its citizenry but... I guess he loves the troops."

"Yeah, we'll have to stop criticising him about that."

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:25am

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

116 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:53am

re: #99 Guanxi88

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

He's being chewed out by people who'll just find something else to bitch about.

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:50:01am

re: #22 Guanxi88

I think these stories, and other sorts of narratives mythologizing the extent of the current President's radical associations - stories which I myself once believed - will never really go away. I will say, though, that speculation about seekrit meetings between W and, say David Duke, would be a lot harder to sell.

To whom, and why?

118 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:50:22am

re: #112 Gus 802

This just in.

"GOP helps orchestrate outrage over Obama not attending Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, 2010."

"Next week, the GOP blocks legislation for expanding veteran's benefits in congress."

Film @ 11.

/

//Because being an american Patriot is about making gestures not doing anything important!

////Just like being an envriomentalist!

119 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:50:34am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

IT'S BAD BECAUSE IT'S OBAAAMMMAAA!!!

120 What, me worry?  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:50:46am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

Keep reading :)

Biden's going to Arlington. Did Michael Savage mention that little tidbit?

121 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:05am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

If I remember correctly. Obama did Arlington last year and they still complained. They found something to complain about as they always do.

122 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:05am

re: #120 marjoriemoon

Keep reading :)

Biden's going to Arlington. Did Michael Savage mention that little tidbit?

Lord! how did HE get in all this?

123 rwdflynavy  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:19am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

I'm glad he's going to a Memorial Day remembrance at a National Cemetery (Abraham Lincoln in Chicago). I find no reason for outrage, outrageous or otherwise. If he had chosen not to attend any remembrance, I would think a little less of him, but would still not be outraged.

124 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:32am

re: #29 ralphieboy

His meetings with "Kenny Boy" Lay and "Buff Guy" Abramoff are documented.

Well, that's sort of a trend. People were mostly mad at Bush about things he really did. Whether you applauded or deplored, he did really make the decision to take the U.S. into real, actual, wars.

More people seem to be mad at Obama about stuff they made up, than were mad at Bush about stuff they made up.

This is my comment on the trends of BDS and ODS. I am open to comment and modification.

125 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:33am

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Why is his absence bad? Other presidents have chosen to be elsewhere on Memorial Day. It is a big country full of the graves of our fallen.

Oh, yeah.
Obama should clone himself. That way, he could be at every cemetery!

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:52:59am

re: #31 Charles

Ronald Reagan spent Memorial Day at his ranch in 1987. Guess he hated America too.

It gets worse! He was in MOSCOW one year.

/

127 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:02am

re: #125 Varek Raith

Oh, yeah.
Obama should clone himself.

Again?

128 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:22am

re: #113 Guanxi88

Outta snuff, and so in a dark mood.

I KNEW it!

I was going to post that this a.m. but didn't want to assume.

HA

129 avanti  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:30am

If he had gone, we'd hear about the disgraceful use of our dead hero's as a photo op, count on it.

130 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:34am

Ah, here's one from the loony Freepers...

2009...

Obama plays golf after Memorial Day observance!!11!!
May 25, 2009 ... Posted on 05/25/2009 3:08:50 PM PDT by FocusNexus. President Barack Obama hit the golf course after marking his first Memorial Day as ...

131 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:49am

re: #127 Guanxi88

Again?

What???
There ain't no laws saying he can't clone himself multiple times!
Clonist!

132 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:53:54am

re: #121 Gus 802

If I remember correctly. Obama did Arlington last year and they still complained. They found something to complain about as they always do.

Indeed. There isn't anything President Obama could possibly do right. Nothing.

133 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:54:20am

re: #123 rwdflynavy

I'm glad he's going to a Memorial Day remembrance at a National Cemetery (Abraham Lincoln in Chicago). I find no reason for outrage, outrageous or otherwise. If he had chosen not to attend any remembrance, I would think a little less of him, but would still not be outraged.

Thank you for setting a reasonable benchmark, the world (and the modern day GOP) needs many more people like you.

134 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:54:34am

re: #132 beekiller

Indeed. There isn't anything President Obama could possibly do right. Nothing.

Apparently the outrage was that he played golf after attending Arlington last year.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:54:52am

re: #34 ralphieboy

It might have a greater toxic effect on the maritime life than the oil...what if all the mollusks "go Galt"?

Haven't mollusks essentially all gone Galt eons ago? I mean, you live in your shell, indifferent to others, build your own shelter out of your secretions, exploit natural resources and rely on other mollusks for nothing...

//Man! I wanna be like a MUSSEL!

136 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:55:12am

re: #125 Varek Raith

Oh, yeah.
Obama should clone himself. That way, he could be at every cemetery!

No, Obama should fly around the world really fast so that he can be at Arlington one day, and another cemetery at the exact same time!

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:55:45am

re: #35 beekiller

I was about to ask how seriously right wingers take her...wow. Is she really mentally ill or is it attention seeking. Both?

I think that most normal conservative or conservative-leaning folks in the country have never the hell heard of Pam...but she does seem to be getting a certain following in certain quarters.

138 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:55:52am

re: #128 Stanley Sea

I KNEW it!

I was going to post that this a.m. but didn't want to assume.

HA

It's a mean, vicious monkey I got. Kinda like a cross between Fu manchu and a character from Dostoevsky.

139 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:56:01am

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Haven't mollusks essentially all gone Galt eons ago? I mean, you live in your shell, indifferent to others, build your own shelter out of your secretions, exploit natural resources and rely on other mollusks for nothing...

//Man! I wanna be like a MUSSEL!

That's deep.

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:56:35am

re: #37 WindUpBird

Oh yeah, symbolic theater, that's why I vote for presidents 9_9

If so, Clinton wins the recent presidents contest, hands down. He went to Arlington himself, every year.

141 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:57:18am

re: #139 Varek Raith

That's deep.

No, tube worms are down deep; deeper still are YOU-KNOW-WHO.

142 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:57:48am

Symbolic gestures are meaningless, except, when they're not. Surprise!

143 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:57:52am

re: #134 Gus 802

Apparently the outrage was that he played golf after attending Arlington last year.

I give him much credit for keeping his wits and not letting them get him down.

144 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:57:54am

I swear, I'm having a very difficult time keeping up with the Outrageous Outrages lately. They're popping out so fast, I'm starting to get worried that the OO Generator is going to overheat and blow up, contaminating a 10-square mile area with long-lived Outragium and necessitating a massive government clean-up.

145 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:57:59am

Meanwhile, the wingnuts will do jack shit for Memorial Day other than get drunk (again) and consume mass quantities of meat (again). Their additional contribution to Memorial Day will be to watch a war movie.

146 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:58:51am

re: #145 Gus 802

Meanwhile, the wingnuts will do jack shit for Memorial Day other than get drunk (again) and consume mass quantities of meat (again). Their additional contribution to Memorial Day will be to watch a war movie.

I got asparagus.
Yum.

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:59:29am

re: #42 bratwurst

Snopes weighs in on the Presidents at Arlington on Memorial Day issue:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

George H.W. Bush apparently NEVER went there for Memorial Day. Millions were OUTRAGED. Or not.

Millions, including myself, NEVER EVEN NOTICED.

I think it is nice that Biden is going. I think it is nice that Obama is laying a wreath at Abraham Lincoln.

I think also that the man who stands as CiC for every serviceman and woman who falls in the two wars we are now conducting probably doesn't need to be reminded of the fallen. I imagine he spends plenty of time with them on a daily basis.

148 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:00:02pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

I got asparagus.
Yum.

I've got a can of Chef Boyardee © ravioli.

149 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:00:33pm

re: #144 Charles

I swear, I'm having a very difficult time keeping up with the Outrageous Outrages lately. They're popping out so fast, I'm starting to get worried that the OO Generator is going to overheat and blow up, contaminating a 10-square mile area with long-lived Outragium and necessitating a massive government clean-up.

A government clean up that will take too long thus generating more outrageous outrages!

150 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:00:42pm

re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that most normal conservative or conservative-leaning folks in the country have never the hell heard of Pam...but she does seem to be getting a certain following in certain quarters.

I can't remember which Lizard loves to channel Barney Fife saying: She's a NUT.

151 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:00:58pm

re: #149 jamesfirecat

A government clean up that will take too long thus generating more outrageous outrages!

Perpetual outrage machine!

152 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:01:06pm

re: #145 Gus 802

Meanwhile, the wingnuts will do jack shit for Memorial Day other than get drunk (again) and consume mass quantities of meat (again). Their additional contribution to Memorial Day will be to watch a war movie.

WOLVERINES!

153 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:01:09pm

Pamela Geller loves Nazis.

154 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:01:34pm

You know, I love how this issue got brought up AGAIN. Just dropped into another thread to stir it up.

155 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:01:57pm

re: #152 jamesfirecat

WOLVERINES!

That is a documentary, and all events happened in real time. (Channeling master Shake re: Highlander)

156 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:02:03pm

re: #148 Gus 802

I've got a can of Chef Boyardee © ravioli.

You poor poor thing.

I hope you are joking.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:02:57pm

re: #52 WindUpBird

Well, to be fair, there are some questions about Obama's citizenship, hahaha

Can you make up for that by laying a wreath at Arlington? Because this could be the solution to the illegal immigration problem.

158 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:03:28pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

You poor poor thing.

I hope you are joking.

Nope, not joking. I'll be picking up some other grub later. I'm fine. I'm used to it.

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:05:02pm

re: #66 WindUpBird

No no no, that's not right, he's a philanderer. If he sets foot in Arlington as a philanderer, he triggers the wards and immediately bursts into flames. That was clearly a Clinton body double!

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but Jack Kennedy is BURIED at Arlington.

160 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:05:29pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

You poor poor thing.

I hope you are joking.

ditto. If it were possible, I would email him a steak I'm grilling in a heartbeat.

161 bostinks2  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:05:30pm

Watch for it! Watch for it! Obama will do something near future that will relate to this visit.

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:05:36pm

re: #68 Guanxi88

If you pull up Reagan Memorial 1987, all the hits are for the Stark service; lazy folk that most of us are, that's enough to "confirm" that he was there.

And, yeah, lotta folk don't like BHO and will latch onto any excuse to kick at him.

Reagan missed other years as well. For excellent reasons, I might add.

163 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:06:59pm

Why are the wingnuts so focused on image? Sheesh, talk about a 180 from the previous admin.
:)

164 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:07:26pm

re: #144 Charles

I swear, I'm having a very difficult time keeping up with the Outrageous Outrages lately. They're popping out so fast, I'm starting to get worried that the OO Generator is going to overheat and blow up, contaminating a 10-square mile area with long-lived Outragium and necessitating a massive government clean-up.

Or it all could be a dream.

165 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:07:44pm

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

Or it all could be a dream.

The Matrix has you.

166 blueraven  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:08:04pm

re: #161 bostinks2


Watch for it! Watch for it! Obama will do something near future that will relate to this visit.

Huh??

167 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:08:25pm

re: #165 Varek Raith

The Matrix has you.

We are all Lost™ souls.

168 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:08:55pm

re: #161 bostinks2

Clever nic.
Not.
:)

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:09:12pm

re: #84 Guanxi88

I will say this, though: If Rahm were in town, Obama would never have made such a footling error. As mindful of his image as he needs to be, Rahm would have made sure to have him there.

I'm sorry, but SCREW his 'image'. He does not need to be more mindful of it than any other president. The wingnuts are making this crap up, and there is no need for Obama to run around trying to make Pam Geller happy.

170 Mark Pennington  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:09:20pm

re: #166 blueraven

Huh??

I didn't get it either.

171 freetoken  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:10:02pm

re: #144 Charles

BILDERBERGERS!!

172 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:10:02pm

[Taps sensor.]

Hmm. I might be getting a reading here...

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:04pm

re: #99 Guanxi88

He shows up, lays the wreath, and there's one less thing for folk to howl about. Simple as that. Image is important in dealing with a "post-literate" electorate.

There is never one less thing for folks to howl about.

Would you have suggested that Bush run his life like this, carefully doing things to deprive crazy critics of fuel?

174 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:04pm

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

Or it all could be a dream.

How many packs of ribs did you sell yesterday?

175 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:28pm

Golden Boy and Poison Dwarf.

176 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:32pm

re: #61 JasonA

Wow. Clinton went to Arlington for each of his 8 years. Most patriotic president evar!!!11!!

Thus establishing a high bar that no one has managed to meet since!

177 What, me worry?  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:49pm

re: #122 Guanxi88

Lord! how did HE get in all this?

Sorry for the delay... kitty crisis.

Savage was quoted in the snopes article upthread as being the one in the mass email saying Obama is the first president to never go to Arlington on Memorial Day which is a patent lie.

178 webevintage  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:52pm

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

Why?
Are the dead in Chicago in some way less important then the ones at Arlington who are only there because their families choose to have them buried at Arlington instead of a hometown military cemetary?

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:11:53pm

re: #106 Guanxi88

We as a nation have lost, in case you hadn't noticed.

We as a nation are fine. I know this chaps Pam Geller's hide, but we are basically OK.

180 albusteve  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:12:06pm

if I were CinC I'd spend Memorial Day in a different state each year...hit a few parades, eat some potato salad, pitch some shoes, mix with the folks

181 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:13:05pm

Reasoning with people who really care about wreaths is like reasoning with a little kid in a supermarket who is just convinced he MUST HAVE CANDY RIGHT NOW

182 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:13:10pm

re: #178 webevintage

Why?
Are the dead in Chicago in some way less important then the ones at Arlington who are only there because their families choose to have them buried at Arlington instead of a hometown military cemetary?

She's gone.

183 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:13:15pm

re: #161 bostinks2

Watch for it! Watch for it! Obama will do something near future that will relate to this visit.

The trollometer is twitching.

184 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:13:57pm

re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but Jack Kennedy is BURIED at Arlington.

Heehee, you're all over my zings!

(not speaking ill as far as I'm concerned, hey, Marilyn Monroe!)

185 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:14:51pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

The trollometer is twitching.

Youtube Video
186 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:15:00pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Apparently the outrage was that he played golf after attending Arlington last year.

He should have instead walked, barefoot, to the National Cathedral, where he spent the hours until midnight kneeling in prayer and contemplation.

/

187 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:15:01pm

re: #172 Gus 802

[Taps sensor.]

Hmm. I might be getting a reading here...

re: #183 Cato the Elder

The trollometer is twitching.

Youtube Video
188 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:15:39pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

[Video]

GMTA...

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:16:14pm

re: #144 Charles

I swear, I'm having a very difficult time keeping up with the Outrageous Outrages lately. They're popping out so fast, I'm starting to get worried that the OO Generator is going to overheat and blow up, contaminating a 10-square mile area with long-lived Outragium and necessitating a massive government clean-up.

Which will be blamed on Obama, and people will complain about the waste of tax dollars.

190 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:18:10pm

re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that most normal conservative or conservative-leaning folks in the country have never the hell heard of Pam...but she does seem to be getting a certain following in certain quarters.

You're right most people have never heard of her, but she does have a following that is as kooky as she is.

I looked over there once, saw her "V-logs" (video logs I guess).
One was of her rolling around in the surf in her bikini, checking on occasion to her kids, while she rambled on about something. This from a woman who thinks she should be taken seriously?

The second when she had her kids in a creepy "my vagina" video (to the tune of My Sharona) that was creepy as hell.

She's not a balanced person.

191 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:18:51pm

re: #145 Gus 802

Meanwhile, the wingnuts will do jack shit for Memorial Day other than get drunk (again) and consume mass quantities of meat (again). Their additional contribution to Memorial Day will be to watch a war movie.

Great point!

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:19:34pm

re: #180 albusteve

if I were CinC I'd spend Memorial Day in a different state each year...hit a few parades, eat some potato salad, pitch some shoes, mix with the folks

That sounds like a fine idea to me. The Memorial Day plan, not Albusteve for President, I mean. :)

193 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:20:10pm

re: #190 reine.de.tout


The second when she had her kids in a creepy "my vagina" video (to the tune of My Sharona) that was creepy as hell.

Added to the "Things I will never look at on the internet, even on accident" list! Thanks for the headsup >>

194 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:20:20pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

That sounds like a fine idea to me. The Memorial Day plan, not Albusteve for President, I mean. :)

If Albusteve ever became president I'd move to North Korea.

//

195 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:20:50pm

re: #194 Gus 802

I'd move to our private lake and stock up on guns >>

196 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:21:07pm

re: #193 windsagio

Added to the "Things I will never look at on the internet, even on accident" list! Thanks for the headsup >>

Disappointed in you, I am.
///

197 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:21:29pm

re: #195 windsagio

I'd move to our private lake and stock up on guns >>

Buy gold! Survival seeds!

/

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:21:43pm

re: #184 WindUpBird

Heehee, you're all over my zings!

(not speaking ill as far as I'm concerned, hey, Marilyn Monroe!)

Well, the other president buried at Arlington is Taft, and I don't know if he fooled around. I know he was a stress overeater.

You could probably right a really fascinating book on how people have handled the stress of the presidency.

199 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:22:30pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

wasn't there some big brouhaha about obama starting to smoke again?

200 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:22:51pm

re: #190 reine.de.tout

WOW, I'll take your word for this, not going looking..not.

Unfortunately she's been getting press lately (Fox) for her bus ads and the mosque in NYC.

201 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:23:10pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

Millions, including myself, NEVER EVEN NOTICED.

I think it is nice that Biden is going. I think it is nice that Obama is laying a wreath at Abraham Lincoln.

I think also that the man who stands as CiC for every serviceman and woman who falls in the two wars we are now conducting probably doesn't need to be reminded of the fallen. I imagine he spends plenty of time with them on a daily basis.

Maybe it's just me, but using a visit to a cemetery as a political point against a president just seems really creepy and morally dark to me. Not just because it's Obama, but because people are like YOU MUST HAIL THE DEAD IN JUST THIS WAY. Real pagan. Real weird.

This just uncorks my feelings about graveyards in general. I don't visit corpses or ashes. I think burying intact dead people in an expensive box that stays where it is forever is creepy and wasteful. The only time in my life I ever go to a cemetery is for the funeral, that's it. I honor my dead relatives by telling stories about them, by having conversations about them with my living ones, by asking what was grampa like when he was your dad, mom? That's more valuable to me than getting in my car, buying some flowers, and leaving them on some stone.

I don't need to hang out where the urn is. It's pointless to me.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:23:14pm

re: #197 Gus 802

Buy gold! Survival seeds!

/

But at least if Albusteve were president, tortillas would never be taxed. There is that.

203 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:23:41pm

re: #199 windsagio

wasn't there some big brouhaha about obama starting to smoke again?

I'm no fan, but let the man smoke. Sometimes a fellow needs some tobacco, as I know all too well.

204 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:24:00pm

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

But at least if Albusteve were president, tortillas would never be taxed. There is that.

And an ample supply of tax free marijuana.

/

205 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:24:08pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Apparently the outrage was that he played golf after attending Arlington last year.

You just can't argue with people who are outraged at that. It's a blind spot. It's core tribalism and hatred inside of them, it's not accessible to the outside.

206 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:24:51pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the other president buried at Arlington is Taft, and I don't know if he fooled around. I know he was a stress overeater.

You could probably right a really fascinating book on how people have handled the stress of the presidency.

I just fainted teacher.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:25:00pm

re: #199 windsagio

wasn't there some big brouhaha about obama starting to smoke again?

I don't think he's ever really stopped, he just cuts back, or manages to go a few weeks without.

I realize he IS under massive stress, the likes of which most people can't imagine, but he has young daughters, and I'd really like to see him knock it the hell off.

Also, he is a role model to young black men in this country, and I'd really like to see him knock it the hell off for their sake as well.

208 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:25:01pm

re: #204 Gus 802

And an ample supply of tax free marijuana.

/

"Mr. President! China is amassing on our borders."

"Hey maaan, it's all good, relax! Invite em over, we'll do a J."

209 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:25:20pm

re: #201 WindUpBird

All my grandparents (except one) are in my mom and dad's closet.

210 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:26:00pm

re: #208 WindUpBird

"Mr. President! China is amassing on our borders."

"Hey maaan, it's all good, relax! Invite em over, we'll do a J."

China invaded Canada and/or Mexico???

211 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:26:00pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh man the pain in the ass I was to my mother when I was a kid, because of her smoking. :D Eventually she did quit!

212 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:26:16pm

re: #205 WindUpBird

Said it next thread, but the point is of course that Republicans don't have to prove they're 'committed to the troops', but Democrats do.

Those evil communist soldier-hating democrats.

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:26:26pm

re: #210 Varek Raith

China invaded Canada and/or Mexico???

Sure! RED DAWWWWN

214 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:26:58pm

re: #212 windsagio

Said it next thread, but the point is of course that Republicans don't have to prove they're 'committed to the troops', but Democrats do.

Those evil communist soldier-hating democrats.

Yep!

Creepy tribalism. Stupid and creepy.

215 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:27:10pm

re: #205 WindUpBird

You just can't argue with people who are outraged at that. It's a blind spot. It's core tribalism and hatred inside of them, it's not accessible to the outside.

Yep. Just hink. They made a stink about the First Lady's dress for the inauguration and compared the color to Communist flags in Central and South America. Then they found out it was designed by a Cuban!

Turned out that the designer was a first generation Cuban-American whose parents fled Castro's Cuba and he in fact was very disdainful of Castro. That shut them right up.

216 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:27:22pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

Some promising jingoistic filmmaker needs to make "Brown Dawn", if it hasn't been done already.

217 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:27:36pm

re: #215 Gus 802

Just hink think that is. PIMF

218 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:27:59pm

re: #201 WindUpBird

Maybe it's just me, but using a visit to a cemetery as a political point against a president just seems really creepy and morally dark to me. Not just because it's Obama, but because people are like YOU MUST HAIL THE DEAD IN JUST THIS WAY. Real pagan. Real weird.

This just uncorks my feelings about graveyards in general. I don't visit corpses or ashes. I think burying intact dead people in an expensive box that stays where it is forever is creepy and wasteful. The only time in my life I ever go to a cemetery is for the funeral, that's it. I honor my dead relatives by telling stories about them, by having conversations about them with my living ones, by asking what was grampa like when he was your dad, mom? That's more valuable to me than getting in my car, buying some flowers, and leaving them on some stone.

I don't need to hang out where the urn is. It's pointless to me.

Did I ever tell you about my grandmother's funeral? She wanted to be cremated, but insisted on being put in a glass-fronted niche at the columbarium, instead of behind stone because...wait for it...she was claustrophobic.

She also told my aunt to pick out a 'beautiful urn', so 'the neighbors will be jealous'. That's the neighbors in the neighboring urns, you understand.

This is the same woman who refused to have my grandfather's ashes scattered at sea because...he couldn't swim.

We associate ourselves with the body our whole lives long. It is hard to get over that habit.

219 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:28:49pm

re: #215 Gus 802


Turned out that the designer was a first generation Cuban-American whose parents fled Castro's Cuba and he in fact was very disdainful of Castro. That shut them right up.

Bet it didn't.

220 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:28:49pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

Did I ever tell you about my grandmother's funeral? She wanted to be cremated, but insisted on being put in a glass-fronted niche at the columbarium, instead of behind stone because...wait for it...she was claustrophobic.

She also told my aunt to pick out a 'beautiful urn', so 'the neighbors will be jealous'. That's the neighbors in the neighboring urns, you understand.

This is the same woman who refused to have my grandfather's ashes scattered at sea because...he couldn't swim.

We associate ourselves with the body our whole lives long. It is hard to get over that habit.

That's actually kind of awesome.
:)

221 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:29:10pm

re: #209 windsagio

All my grandparents (except one) are in my mom and dad's closet.

They're doing it right. :)

I don't get the PLOT OF LAND WHERE THE BODY IS thing. They're ashes, keep 'em in a box at home, whatever. If we're gonna have a ritual, at least make it something sort of fun? Like spreading ashes somewhere. I'm all for that. My mother wants me to spread her ashes at Disneyland. And I'm totally going to do it, but all sneaky like. Like we're on a grand adventure. Road trip and everything.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:29:31pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

Sure! RED DAWWWN

WOLVERINES!

CHUPACABRAS!

223 Gus  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:30:01pm

re: #219 Renaissance_Man

Bet it didn't.

Yeah. I was debating whether to put that last line in. I don't they even cared about the facts or they were busy with the next outrage. You know, like her sleeveless dress and top and the vegetable garden. I think Pizzagate came next.

224 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:30:31pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

One of the greatest hangouts in PDX is the giant mausoleum over Oaks Bottom.

225 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:30:49pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

When we buried my grandmother in the family cemetery, I recall my great-grandmother, walking the rows, gossiping and slandering those interred there. "Sure, she wanted nothing to do with us when she was alive, but she sure as hell wanted us to plant her carcass here." "I can't believe the others don't get up and walk out with him buried here." and so on.

226 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:30:51pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

The biggest urn! I love it :D

227 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:30:57pm

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

I have a good friend, who was kind of in the "I need a man" stage. We were taking a Feng Shui class together. The instructor mentioned that the ashes of her dog on her nightstand probably wasn't helping the situation.

228 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:31:10pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

That's actually kind of awesome.
:)

She was one hell of a woman.

:)

229 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:31:10pm

re: #221 WindUpBird

Bury her under Pirates of the Caribbean.

230 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:31:13pm

re: #224 windsagio

They won't let you just go in without a reason anymore, though. :P

231 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:31:50pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

Damn really? Since when?!

232 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:32:12pm

re: #231 windsagio

Damn really? Since when?!

I thought that's what [redacted name of partner] said!

233 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:33:25pm

re: #232 WindUpBird

Update for you, Varek is talking about Mighty Boosh (a little) in the next thread!

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:34:04pm

re: #226 WindUpBird

The biggest urn! I love it :D

It's purple and violet, and has a chrysanthemum pattern. It's extremely nice. I have, for some reason, a small model of it. My aunt ordered them for us all as keepsakes.

It sits on my dresser. I've thought about getting a small decant of Chanel No. 5 to put in it, as that was grandma's perfume.

Funeral customs are the darndest things.

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:34:46pm

re: #227 Stanley Sea

I have a good friend, who was kind of in the "I need a man" stage. We were taking a Feng Shui class together. The instructor mentioned that the ashes of her dog on her nightstand probably wasn't helping the situation.

I would say that a man who doesn't understand keeping your dog's ashes may not be for her. I would be very touched if a man I was seeing did that.

236 Varek Raith  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:35:36pm

When I die, do you think the feds will let me be cremated in the center of a multi-megaton nuclear blast???
That would rock.

237 Stanghazi  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:35:53pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I would say that a man who doesn't understand keeping your dog's ashes may not be for her. I would be very touched if a man I was seeing did that.

Really? I just thought it was gross!

238 webevintage  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:36:41pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, he is a role model to young black men in this country, and I'd really like to see him knock it the hell off for their sake as well.

Well that is why we will never see pictures of him chain smoking in the oval office like LBJ.

239 Guanxi88  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:36:50pm

re: #236 Varek Raith

When I die, do you think the feds will let me be cremated in the center of a multi-megaton nuclear blast???
That would rock.

I'd always inclined toward being interred with my body weight of torpex and being detonated into the afterworld, but I think your tribe's custom tops that one.

240 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:46:37pm

re: #199 windsagio

wasn't there some big brouhaha about obama starting to smoke again?

Oh, fer gawd's sake!
That's a silly brou-ha-ha if I ever heard of one
He's a grown man.
Smoking is a perfectly legal activity.
Unhealthy yes.
But illegal? No.

It's amazing to me that the smoking thing has gotten so bad that even the President of the United States feels obligated to hide his habit.

241 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:49:57pm

re: #240 reine.de.tout

Oh, fer gawd's sake!
That's a silly brou-ha-ha if I ever heard of one
He's a grown man.
Smoking is a perfectly legal activity.
Unhealthy yes.
But illegal? No.

It's amazing to me that the smoking thing has gotten so bad that even the President of the United States feels obligated to hide his habit.

Well goodness knows in this day and age we're never going to elect another president who is as fat as Taft again....

242 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:49:57pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

They won't let you just go in without a reason anymore, though. :P

My mom & dad's burial site was open to everyone, and then it was vandalized, with the most vile stuff painted on the crypts.

The cemetary closed all of the areas off with doors that unlock with a code.

It will lessen the vandalism but won't get rid of it entirely, but now there will be a charge of breaking and entering to go along with the vandalism.

243 windsagio  Sun, May 30, 2010 12:50:02pm

re: #237 Stanley Sea

I'm with you, man >>

Not an automatic blackball, but weird and offputting.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 1:15:27pm

re: #236 Varek Raith

When I die, do you think the feds will let me be cremated in the center of a multi-megaton nuclear blast???
That would rock.

I think you'll have to do something really cool for the country.

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 30, 2010 1:15:40pm

re: #238 webevintage

Well that is why we will never see pictures of him chain smoking in the oval office like LBJ.

Times have changed.

246 Four More Tears  Sun, May 30, 2010 1:26:34pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Apparently the outrage was that he played golf after attending Arlington last year.

Wouldn't be surprised if the people raging had just gotten back from last year's Memorial Day blockbuster.

247 Mentis Fugit  Sun, May 30, 2010 2:07:35pm

re: #144 Charles

I swear, I'm having a very difficult time keeping up with the Outrageous Outrages lately. They're popping out so fast, I'm starting to get worried that the OO Generator is going to overheat and blow up, contaminating a 10-square mile area with long-lived Outragium and necessitating a massive government cleancover-up.


Fixed to maximize Outrage.

248 sagehen  Sun, May 30, 2010 2:30:18pm

re: #30 Guanxi88

One large-print edition of Atlas Shrugs would more than meet the case, but the real question is whether we have the sea lift capacity to get it out there.


There's a facebook page called "Plugging the Gulf Oil Leak with the Works of Ayn Rand."

249 William of Orange  Sun, May 30, 2010 3:12:11pm

Wow! I Obama was the illegitimate child of Malcolm X, we wouldn't have to worry anymore about a Nirth Cirtificit since X was born in Omaha Nebraska.

And since Omaha rhyms with Obama.... THAT MUST BE A SIGN!!!

OMFG WTF ROFL BBQ!!!1!!1!

250 Jimmah  Sun, May 30, 2010 4:06:09pm

re: #23 MandyManners

BHO's absence from Arlington tomorrow is bad enough. No need to make up wild lies about it.

You're an idiot, Mandy, but it's good having you around, all the same:

Image: dem-mistakes.jpg

251 bj  Sun, May 30, 2010 5:01:03pm

I'm glad he "missed" the services. The families, and I am just one of many, have enough to deal with without presidential pc/bs to put up with. That goes for anyone who wants to make this sort of memorial political. Feh!!

252 iceweasel  Sun, May 30, 2010 11:49:50pm

re: #251 bj

I'm glad he "missed" the services. The families, and I am just one of many, have enough to deal with without presidential pc/bs to put up with. That goes for anyone who wants to make this sort of memorial political. Feh!!

Right. If he attends he's 'making the memorial political'; if he doesn't, you wingnuts scarequote 'missed'.

There is literally nothing Obama can do as POTUS to make wingnuts happy. What you're unhappy about is that he is the POTUS.

BTW, did you ever criticise any Republican POTUS for attending any memorial day service? Or missing them all out at Arlington like one Repub POTUS?


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