Where is my satisfaction? I was guaranteed it!

Afternoon All. Thunderstorms are moving in.

re: #1 tnguitarist

You finish that Guitar yet?

We're on a perpetual sun/thunderstorm cycle here during the summer.

re: #3 Bubblehead II

You finish that Guitar yet?

Yep. Just started 4 more!

O hai honcos.

I've been feeling not myself all day today, not really in a lot of pain but just very blah.

I completely forgot I was supposed to bake challah today. No big deal, but it's something I usually do early in the afternoon. I just made the dough.

Have not decided on what to bake for Pie Day. I thought I might try Chess Pie.

re: #5 tnguitarist

Cool. The pics I saw looked great. That was your first one you had made iirc.

Happy open thread, lizards!

re: #1 tnguitarist

Where is my satisfaction? I was guaranteed it!

it's with your hope & change sucka

Man, I'm ready for the weekend already.

re: #6 Alouette

Chess pie.

Mmmm

re: #7 Bubblehead II

Cool. The pics I saw looked great. That was your first one you had made iirc.

Thanks. It was my first, but I have a background in woodworking so that helped ease the transition.

At last! An opportunity to make a non-controversial comment.

re: #9 brookly red

it's with your hope & change sucka

My, aren't you the compassionate conservative.

re: #14 tnguitarist

My, aren't you the compassionate conservative.

hey with a set up like that how could I resist ?

re: #13 The Curmudgeon

At last! An opportunity to make a non-controversial comment.

*shove*

re: #13 The Curmudgeon

At last! An opportunity to make a non-controversial comment.

Stuffing > Potatoes

The cinnamon applesauce / cider marinated baby backs have been on the smoker for 4 hours now, just 1.5 hrs left....

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Stuffing > Potatoes

no where having cheese pie...

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Stuffing > Potatoes

Hard to argue with that, although it depends on the combo. Can we agree that....
Gravy > anything?

re: #18 Thanos

The cinnamon applesauce / cider marinated baby backs have been on the smoker for 4 hours now, just 1.5 hrs left...

Beef-O-Roni is ready to go...can opener out, microwave juiced up
life is good

re: #18 Thanos

The cinnamon applesauce / cider marinated baby backs have been on the smoker for 4 hours now, just 1.5 hrs left...

We're hitting Krystal's before football practice. Woofreakin'hoo.

re: #20 tnguitarist

Hard to argue with that, although it depends on the combo. Can we agree that...
Gravy > anything?

Bacon > everything

re: #20 tnguitarist

Hard to argue with that, although it depends on the combo. Can we agree that...
Gravy > anything?

Depends on the gravy.

re: #21 albusteve

Beef-O-Roni is ready to go...can opener out, microwave juiced up
life is good

Secret shame: I've developed a love for Chef Boyardee's ravioli.

re: #20 tnguitarist

Hard to argue with that, although it depends on the combo. Can we agree that...
Gravy > anything?

In bed?

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Depends on the gravy.

Homemade brown.

re: #22 MandyManners

We're hitting Krystal's before football practice. Woofreakin'hoo.

tonight we hit Gino's... all things Italian :)

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Depends on the gravy.

Remember the SNL skit years ago about bottled gravy?

re: #22 MandyManners

We're hitting Krystal's before football practice. Woofreakin'hoo.

years of it...you just wait
if the Kid likes knocking people on their ass, you are in for a long haul...I did it for ten years....that's ten

re: #29 MandyManners

Remember the SNL skit years ago about bottled gravy?

Crystal gravy. Was that SNL?

re: #27 tnguitarist

Homemade brown.

I prefer white over biscuits for breakfast.

re: #25 MandyManners

Secret shame: I've developed a love for Chef Boyardee's ravioli.

OMG!

re: #30 albusteve

years of it...you just wait
if the Kid likes knocking people on their ass, you are in for a long haul...I did it for ten years...that's ten

He's a running back. But, yeah, if he gets the chance, he'll knock you on your butt.

re: #32 MandyManners

I prefer white over biscuits for breakfast.

White gravy for breakfast is the law of the land.

re: #28 brookly red

tonight we hit Gino's... all things Italian :)

sometimes Gino hits you...depends

re: #31 tnguitarist

Crystal gravy. Was that SNL?

That's it!

This should make Reine's day.

BP May Attempt ‘Static Kill’ of Well Before Aug. 1

re: #37 MandyManners

That's it!

It was gross.

re: #32 MandyManners

I prefer white over biscuits for breakfast.

that is the hardest part of being a non-meat eater, no gravy...

re: #34 MandyManners

He's a running back. But, yeah, if he gets the chance, he'll knock you on your butt.

the essence of football is domination...knocking the next guy out, one way or another...football is life!...I truly hope he digs it, it will teach him a lot about the big picture....trust me

The kids are coming for a visit, they do every Thursday and we cook them a special meal... the rest of the time its Sea food (tuna fish casserole), Fillet de Hamburger, and pate de peanut over baked multigrain souffle....

re: #39 tnguitarist

It was gross.

That's what made it funny.

re: #36 albusteve

sometimes Gino hits you...depends

no I made like that...

Later, taters.

SNL...
Bass-O-Matic

re: #23 darthstar

the county fair has Chocolate covered bacon here this year...not sure what to think about that one.

re: #47 Dreggas

the county fair has Chocolate covered bacon here this year...not sure what to think about that one.

Wow. I thought the deep-fried Snickers bars at the drive-in were bad.

re: #47 Dreggas

the county fair has Chocolate covered bacon here this year...not sure what to think about that one.

After my quintuple bypass all I can manage to say about chocolate covered bacon is "Yummmm.... but no thanks..."

re: #40 brookly red

that is the hardest part of being a non-meat eater, no gravy...

There are some really great gravies made out of gluten-free tofu, seasalt and kelp.

re: #47 Dreggas

the county fair has Chocolate covered bacon here this year...not sure what to think about that one.

think morbid obesity...

Great moments in Facebook

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re: #50 Walter L. Newton

There are some really great gravies made out of gluten-free tofu, seasalt and kelp.

You are dead to me.
/

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

There are some really great gravies made out of gluten-free tofu, seasalt and kelp.

yes I was going to say except in China town but I got lazy...

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #54 brookly red

I made that up...

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moments in Facebook

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That was great.

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

There are some really great gravies made out of gluten-free tofu, seasalt and kelp.

you freak

re: #26 MandyManners

In bed?

Love gravy, less fattening and good for your skin.

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

re: #54 brookly red

I made that up...

they do make veggie gravy...

re: #56 tnguitarist

That was great.

I hope they nail the guy and his buddy gets the $300.

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LoL. He should have paid him for the laptop.

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

that's hysterical.

I hate this black apron that Kroger makes us wear when we are working.

Did someone say...Love Gravy?

re: #51 brookly red

without a doubt. I think they should have warnings at the fair that the food there is only safe to consume once a year. Though I am glad I found a place that makes deep fried pickles. Those rock.

re: #61 Bubblehead II

LoL. He should have paid him for the laptop.

Thats what you get for being a dick.

re: #65 Dreggas

without a doubt. I think they should have warnings at the fair that the food there is only safe to consume once a year. Though I am glad I found a place that makes deep fried pickles. Those rock.

they do... but let's face it deep frying anything is tasty.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I hate this black apron that Kroger makes us wear when we are working.

put a Rolling Stones tongue on it

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I hate this black apron that Kroger makes us wear when we are working.

but the jack boots are kinda cool...

How to Grill Great Steakhouse Steaks

I am a big fan of "the vineyard method". It doesn't have to be grape vines, I use trimmings from my kiwi vine or twigs and branches from my pear, fig or plum trees.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I hate this black apron that Kroger makes us wear when we are working.

Do they make you add flair?

re: #68 albusteve

put a Rolling Stones tongue on it

I don't need anything else hanging from it in my way. It's bad enough that they give us stickers and little flap of cardboard that stick to our badges, and all sorts of promotional material to attached to ourselves. We've like walking billboards sometimes...

And try working, both hands and arms flying, in and out of the shopping cart, with an apron and cardboard crap getting in your way.

Anyway...

To work... see you all after 9:00pm MT.

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do they make you add flair?

IS that what you call what I was talking about in #72?

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

IS that what you call what I was talking about in #72?

Flair

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do they make you add flair?

I was hoping someone would ask that question.

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Flair

[Video]

Ok... that's the shit... off to work.

howdy lizards ...

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moments in Facebook

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Justice, sweet justice.

Sometimes, my encyclopedic knowledge of obscure trivia and references frightens even me.

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moments in Facebook

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Oh geez, I would have turned that turd in for $30, friend or no.

re: #80 Cato the Elder

Oh geez, I would have turned that turd in for $30, friend or no.

I appreciate how his "friend" drew him out, got him to admit it, in fact take pride in it, before dropping the hammer. The DA will love having a publicly printed admission of guilt as evidence.

re: #25 MandyManners

Secret shame: I've developed a love for Chef Boyardee's ravioli.

It's okay. I'm fond of salt. I still like eggs and spam. I also like Marmite on toasted bread. And bacon hot sauce on pizza.

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I appreciate how his "friend" drew him out, got him to admit it, in fact take pride in it, before dropping the hammer. The DA will love having a publicly printed admission of guilt as evidence.

a. he is a POS & I hope he gets his...
b. anything you say post can and will be used against you...

re: #80 Cato the Elder

Oh geez, I would have turned that turd in for $30 pieces of sliver , friend or no.

re: #82 eclectic infidel

It's okay. I'm fond of salt. I still like eggs and spam. I also like Marmite on toasted bread. And bacon hot sauce on pizza.

wtf is Marmite?

did anyone discuss senator jim bunning calling out stephen strasburg? it was one of those "get off my lawn" moments between an old school guy and a young gazillionaire.

Headed out for ribs, everyone enjoy their evening.

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great moments in Facebook

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Somehow, that led me to Wonder Woman.

re: #85 brookly red

wtf is Marmite?

"Marmite is dark brown-colored savory spread made from the yeast that is a by-product of the brewing industry. It has a very strong, slightly salty flavor. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it type of food."

See: The Marmite FAQ

re: #89 eclectic infidel

"Marmite is dark brown-colored savory spread made from the yeast that is a by-product of the brewing industry. It has a very strong, slightly salty flavor. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it type of food."

See: The Marmite FAQ

is it like vegamite?

support for the health insurance reform bill continues to go up, according to the latest kaiser foundation poll. their measurement puts it at 50% approve to 35% oppose now overall. but then there are these disturbing findings:

On the other hand, large shares of seniors mistakenly believe the law includes provisions that cut some previously universal Medicare benefits and creates “death panels.” Half of seniors (50%) say the law will cut benefits that were previously provided to all people on Medicare, and more than a third (36%) incorrectly believe the law will “allow a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care for people on Medicare.”

Despite the fact that Medicare’s actuaries predict the health reform law will extend the life of the Medicare Part A Trust Fund by 12 years (from 2017 to 2029), only 14 percent of seniors know this and nearly half (45%) of seniors think the health reform law will weaken the financial condition of the fund.


we have enough ignorance and misinformation in this country without the republican party working overtime to increase it

Heh...Khan finds Waldo.

re: #92 darthstar

Heh...Khan finds Waldo.

And why you should never kick your dog.

re: #89 eclectic infidel

"Marmite is dark brown-colored savory spread made from the yeast that is a by-product of the brewing industry. It has a very strong, slightly salty flavor. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it type of food."

See: The Marmite FAQ

My landlady in London got me to try some. It's not awful, it's simply not something that tastes like food to me. Brewing byproduct, yes.

re: #88 darthstar

Somehow, that led me to Wonder Woman.

seroquel 30mg 2x daily...

re: #89 eclectic infidel

"Marmite is dark brown-colored savory spread made from the yeast that is a by-product of the brewing industry. It has a very strong, slightly salty flavor. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it type of food."

See: The Marmite FAQ

I grew up on the stuff, always in my house. My Mom is not from the States obviously.

re: #95 brookly red

seroquel 30mg 2x daily...

If I take that, will I be as calm and cool as this guy?

re: #91 engineer dog

support for the health insurance reform bill continues to go up, according to the latest kaiser foundation poll. their measurement puts it at 50% approve to 35% oppose now overall. but then there are these disturbing findings:

On the other hand, large shares of seniors mistakenly believe the law includes provisions that cut some previously universal Medicare benefits and creates “death panels.” Half of seniors (50%) say the law will cut benefits that were previously provided to all people on Medicare, and more than a third (36%) incorrectly believe the law will “allow a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care for people on Medicare.”

Despite the fact that Medicare’s actuaries predict the health reform law will extend the life of the Medicare Part A Trust Fund by 12 years (from 2017 to 2029), only 14 percent of seniors know this and nearly half (45%) of seniors think the health reform law will weaken the financial condition of the fund.


we have enough ignorance and misinformation in this country without the republican party working overtime to increase it

I think your numbers are off... here in the bluest of blue cities everyone I know is against it... and not in a small way.

re: #97 darthstar

If I take that, will I be as calm and cool as this guy?

no but you will drive that way...

re: #98 brookly red

I think your numbers are off... here in the bluest of blue cities everyone I know is against it... and not in a small way.

Sorry, but that's probably pretty accurate.

re: #90 brookly red

is it like vegamite?

The products are similar, but not exactly the same. See #12 on the aforementioned FAQ for more detail. Both are yeast extract.

Marmite ingredients:
(British)
# Yeast Extract
# Salt
# Vegetable Extract
# Vitamin: Niacin
# Spices
# Vitamins: B1, B2, Folic Acid, B12

and
(New Zealand)
* Yeast
* Sugar
* Salt
* Wheatgerm Extract
* Mineral Salt (508)
* Color (Caramel)
* Herbs
* Spices
* Vitamins: Niacin, Thiamin, Riboflavin

Vegemite ingredients:
(Australian)
* Yeast Extract
* Salt
* Caramel
* Malt Extract
* Natural Flavor

re: #98 brookly red

I think your numbers are off... here in the bluest of blue cities everyone I know is against it... and not in a small way.

not my numbers - this is all quoted directly from the kaiser poll

here in the bay area the opposition comes from people who are seriously disappointed that there was no "public option", so that all the money is funneled into private insurance companies

otherwise it is very popular, especially with all the health professionals in my family

re: #98 brookly red

I think your numbers are off... here in the bluest of blue cities everyone I know is against it... and not in a small way.

Do I take it that most of them also decline their Medicare coverage when they reach 65, and stay with their lovable insurance companies and yearly double digit increases in premiums so they can avoid the death panels?/

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Sorry, but that's probably pretty accurate.

sorry I don't give much credit to kaiser foundation...

re: #104 brookly red

sorry I don't give much credit to kaiser foundation...

It is what it is...

re: #99 brookly red

no but you will drive that way...

I prefer to travel the old fashioned way.

Okay...enough funny gifs for one day...damn but some of those are addicting...and life-like

re: #102 engineer dog

not my numbers - this is all quoted directly from the kaiser poll

here in the bay area the opposition comes from people who are seriously disappointed that there was no "public option", so that all the money is funneled into private insurance companies

otherwise it is very popular, especially with all the health professionals in my family

that's nice, I am sure...

re: #98 brookly red

I think your numbers are off... here in the bluest of blue cities everyone I know is against it... and not in a small way.

Against the HCR bill, against the omgMosque(!)... what friggin NY neighborhood do you live in???

re: #105 Stanley Sea

It is what it is...

those are the truest words ever spoken. and I don't recognize the kaiser foundation.

re: #104 brookly red

sorry I don't give much credit to kaiser foundation...

Dare a body ask why?

AZ, FL, UT, VT to get Air Force's new F-35 fighter

"Other bases under consideration included Mountain Home Air Force Base and Gowen Field in Idaho."

Damn. We could have used the jobs those jets would have brought.

And this is what killed our chances.

FAA denial means turbulence for Idaho's F-35 hopes

re: #109 brookly red

those are the truest words ever spoken. and I don't recognize the kaiser foundation.

Oh boy. And I thought you worked in health care! blah blah blah

re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist

Dare a body ask why?

well first off a "foundation" has a agenda to start with... that is why it is a foundation.

re: #109 brookly red

those are the truest words ever spoken. and I don't recognize the kaiser foundation.

it's easily recognizable by the small mole on its chin

re: #113 brookly red

well first off a "foundation" has a agenda to start with... that is why it is a foundation.

Jesus. OK, forget I asked.

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Oh boy. And I thought you worked in health care! blah blah blah

well I did... in the educational part of it. now go piss off.

re: #113 brookly red

well first off a "foundation" has a agenda to start with... that is why it is a foundation.

What's wrong with an agenda?

re: #117 eclectic infidel

What's wrong with an agenda?

nothing if it is your's ...

re: #118 brookly red

nothing if it is your's ...

But Kaiser's...God knows what they might be planning and plotting. Better not to acknowledge them.

Well, I just won the office draw for baseball tix. Club level for the Dodgers-Giants...with parking. Life is good.

re: #102 engineer dog

not my numbers - this is all quoted directly from the kaiser poll

here in the bay area the opposition comes from people who are seriously disappointed that there was no "public option", so that all the money is funneled into private insurance companies

otherwise it is very popular, especially with all the health professionals in my family

For what it is worth, insurance companies are right at the top of my sh-t list. Not because they couldn't be what they should be, namely collective sharing of risk, but because they manipulate the system to narrow the territories to cherry picked profitability factors. Needless to say, our legislators work to allow them to maximize profit regardless of consumer benefit.

We do have a public option insurance that works pretty well. So well in fact that there is no for profit alternative. It is called Flood Insurance and I don't hear anyone raising Cain because of the unfairness of it.

Look rather than snipe back and forth about health care... let us just wait till November shall we?

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

But Kaiser's...God knows what they might be planning and plotting. Better not to acknowledge them.

Oh noes!

the Founding Fathers didn't have health care!

re: #122 brookly red

Look rather than snipe back and forth about health care... let us just wait till November shall we?

What's the fun in that?

re: #125 Naso Tang

What's the fun in that?

the I told you so part :)

Funny, i was just filling out a Kaiser form online to set up a Health Care plan. They have a Bend Over And Cough, Silver, Gold, Platinum, and Hand Us Your Wallet Then Bend Over And Cough Plans.

What do you recommend?

How not to win over grrrls on the intarwebs.

re: #127 BigPapa

Funny, i was just filling out a Kaiser form online to set up a Health Care plan. They have a Bend Over And Cough, Silver, Gold, Platinum, and Hand Us Your Wallet Then Bend Over And Cough Plans.

What do you recommend?

I've got my husband and I on the Hand Us Your Wallet program. It's a little extra, but it comes with unlimited patience from the advice nurse hotline.

re: #124 BigPapa

the Founding Fathers didn't have health care!

Yes they did. Nobody was going to let them die without trying to do something to help.

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus. OK, forget I asked.

people here no longer trust the Heritage Foundation...no big deal, you can't trust anybody, not even the CBO

re: #126 brookly red

the I told you so part :)

Cocky are we :)

re: #127 BigPapa

Funny, i was just filling out a Kaiser form online to set up a Health Care plan. They have a Bend Over And Cough, Silver, Gold, Platinum, and Hand Us Your Wallet Then Bend Over And Cough Plans.

What do you recommend?

Oxford

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

But Kaiser's...God knows what they might be planning and plotting. Better not to acknowledge them.

why should we trust them?

re: #132 Naso Tang

Cocky are we :)

what? you concerned about something?

Anne Rice (yes, that one...) quit being a Christian yesterday due to the anti gay division among other things. She's got a post up on her Facebook page.

re: #132 Naso Tang

Cocky are we :)

Confucious say....
man with hand in pocket feel cocky

re: #121 Naso Tang

For what it is worth, insurance companies are right at the top of my sh-t list. Not because they couldn't be what they should be, namely collective sharing of risk, but because they manipulate the system to narrow the territories to cherry picked profitability factors. Needless to say, our legislators work to allow them to maximize profit regardless of consumer benefit.

We do have a public option insurance that works pretty well. So well in fact that there is no for profit alternative. It is called Flood Insurance and I don't hear anyone raising Cain because of the unfairness of it.

i read that we are the only country in the world that allows health insurance companies to profit on basic - basic - health insurance. this was stated in this article: Five Myths About Health Care Around The World

list of myths:

1. It's all socialized medicine out there.

2. Overseas, care is rationed through limited choices or long lines.

3. Foreign health-care systems are inefficient, bloated bureaucracies.

4. Cost controls stifle innovation.

5. Health insurance has to be cruel.

re: #124 BigPapa

the Founding Fathers didn't have health care!

well they had the government option with free neck stretching...

re: #137 albusteve

Confucious say...
man with hand in pocket feel cocky

man who stand on toilet is high on pot

re: #122 brookly red

Look rather than snipe back and forth about health care... let us just wait till November shall we?

what do you think will happen then?

re: #140 Varek Raith

man who stand on toilet is high on pot

woman who fly upside down have crack up

Fr. Anne Rice's page:

As I said below, I quit being a Christian. I'm out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of ...Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen.

re: #142 albusteve

woman who fly upside down have crack up

Lol.
You win.

re: #141 engineer dog

what do you think will happen then?

probably the beginnings of having this monster repealed

Privatize profit, socialize risk. That's what, in America, is known as a "mixed economy".

re: #144 Varek Raith

Lol.
You win.

not really...that's all I got

re: #147 albusteve

not really...that's all I got

Which was twice of what I had.
:)

re: #136 Thanos

Ms Rice also stated she would "remain committed to Christ, as always".[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

re: #148 Varek Raith

Which was twice of what I had.
:)

it was a tie

re: #141 engineer dog

what do you think will happen then?

I think Americans will go to the polls & vote up or down on the policies of the current administration... same as it ever was.

re: #144 Varek Raith

No he doesn't.

May you live in an interesting time.

More of a curse, than a joke though................

re: #143 Thanos

Fr. Anne Rice's page:

Amen girl! It's not so much the band but the fan club...

re: #145 albusteve

probably the beginnings of having this monster repealed

big guy barack will have his buddy veto around to deal with bills that he don't like

re: #134 albusteve

why should we trust them?

Oh, no reason. I often write off research done by large healthcare agencies myself, because their conclusions don't meet my preconceived notions. I feel no need to cite other studies or, clarify what I feel the organization's research bias might be...

re: #136 Thanos

Anne Rice (yes, that one...) quit being a Christian yesterday due to the anti gay division among other things. She's got a post up on her Facebook page.

Does this mean we're off Jesus novels and back to vampire ones?

re: #145 albusteve

probably the beginnings of having this monster repealed

at this point 162 congresspeople have signed on... and every day we get closer to the election.

re: #135 brookly red

what? you concerned about something?

Yes I am. Creationists and other anti knowledge fundamentalists gaining control of the direction of the country on the, semi religious, basis that they think the policies of the last 8 years of Republican administration have nothing to do with today.

In case you haven`t paid attention, I quit the Democrats some time ago, around when Dean rolled up his sleeves and started screaming.

Going forward, its going to be more a matter of voting against than for.

Depressing.

re: #143 Thanos

Fr. Anne Rice's page:

Odd, I am none of those things and consider myself a Christian. Drats, I was enjoying her series on the life of Jesus.
Maybe she'll add to the Beauty series now...

re: #158 Naso Tang

Yes I am. Creationists and other anti knowledge fundamentalists gaining control of the direction of the country on the, semi religious, basis that they think the policies of the last 8 years of Republican administration have nothing to do with today.

In case you haven`t paid attention, I quit the Democrats some time ago, around when Dean rolled up his sleeves and started screaming.

Going forward, its going to be more a matter of voting against than for.

Depressing.

we have the courts...the last stand

i'm not sure how far the republican party is going to get on a platform of allowing insurance companies to keep people off of insurance because of pre-existing conditions again

the Freedom To Refuse Coverage Act of 2011?

re: #149 prairiefire

Good for her.

re: #151 brookly red

I think Americans will go to the polls & vote up or down on the policies of the current administration... same as it ever was.

Yes! Look at the electoral drubbing Bill Clinton took in 1994. It positively crippled him...for the next 6 years.

re: #158 Naso Tang

why do you feel so superior to the rest of your countrymen?

it will all be resolved in 2017...praise the Lord and pass the ammo

re: #163 bratwurst

Yes! Look at the electoral drubbing Bill Clinton took in 1994. It positively crippled him...for the next 6 years.

yup like that.

re: #163 bratwurst

Yes! Look at the electoral drubbing Bill Clinton took in 1994. It positively crippled him...for the next 6 years.

crippled presidents is a good thing

re: #149 prairiefire

Ms Rice also stated she would "remain committed to Christ, as always".[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Yep, she's just not down with calling herself a Christian anymore due to the organized hate groups

re: #167 albusteve

crippled presidents is a good thing

You leave FDR alone, mister!
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I'm so going to hell for that one.:P

WestWingReport

#BP voluntarily contributed $100 mil today to help unemployed oil rig workers. White House says tonight "We are pleased."

re: #160 albusteve

we have the courts...the last stand

It was smart to make those lifetime appointments, but in the long run they are still appointments and reflect the trend.

re: #168 Thanos

Yep, she's just not down with calling herself a Christian anymore due to the organized hate groups

too bad she won't stand her ground...there is little to be gained from retreating...if she's a Christian than nobody can change that via a bunch of fringe fervor

re: #163 bratwurst

Yes! Look at the electoral drubbing Bill Clinton took in 1994. It positively crippled him...for the next 6 years.

and those were 6 really prospers years too.

re: #170 Stanley Sea

WestWingReport

#BP voluntarily contributed $100 mil today to help unemployed oil rig workers. White House says tonight "We are pleased."

the old boot on the neck, kick ass diplomacy...I like it

re: #171 Naso Tang

It was smart to make those lifetime appointments, but in the long run they are still appointments and reflect the trend.

if federal judges allow creationism in the classroom we are fucked....there will be major blowback...the entire USA is not that stupid, I don't think

re: #164 brookly red

why do you feel so superior to the rest of your countrymen?

That hurts, at first blush.

On the other hand, who be these `rest`of my countrymen of whom you speakÉ

re: #165 albusteve

it will all be resolved in 2017...praise the Lord and pass the ammo

also, about $100 billion a year is being added to the income of private insurance companies under the bill. normally, Very Large American Companies put a bit of pressure on congresspeople to make sure that they continue to see large amounts of money

thus, the private health insurance industry has a very significant intrest in not seeing this bill repealed

re: #174 albusteve

the old boot on the neck, kick ass diplomacy...I like it

you know if he got his Chicago politics thing working on other countries we could do quite well... too bad he keeps it all at home.

re: #175 albusteve

if federal judges allow creationism in the classroom we are fucked...there will be major blowback...the entire USA is not that stupid, I don't think

Not today I suspect, but I sometimes worry about my grandchildren to be. Trends are long term.

When we start making TV set in this country again, I might breath easier.é

re: #176 Naso Tang

That hurts, at first blush.

On the other hand, who be these `rest`of my countrymen of whom you speakÉ

well the ones you fear gaining control... are we not a democracy? should not the majority rule?

re: #177 engineer dog

also, about $100 billion a year is being added to the income of private insurance companies under the bill. normally, Very Large American Companies put a bit of pressure on congresspeople to make sure that they continue to see large amounts of money

thus, the private health insurance industry has a very significant intrest in not seeing this bill repealed

hence, certain people are almost sure to be re-elected...
we are fucked

re: #175 albusteve

if federal judges allow creationism in the classroom we are fucked...there will be major blowback...the entire USA is not that stupid, I don't think

Holy crap, Steve is more optimistic than I am!
:)

i think that the same thing will happen with the HCR bill as did with ss and medicare:

in ten or twenty years, it will become compulsory for all politicians, republicans included, to swear up and down that they are doing everything that they can to protect it

My PC character coding seems to be screwed up, in case anyone else sees what I see.

Reboot. REBOOT. REBOOT.

re: #179 Naso Tang

Not today I suspect, but I sometimes worry about my grandchildren to be. Trends are long term.

When we start making TV set in this country again, I might breath easier.é

I'm willing to consider a turnaround when we make our own Easter Eggs

re: #172 albusteve

It's kind of the same reason I refuse to call myself a conservative anymore - the field of people calling themselves that are so rife with bigots, birchers, bile, and birthers that you destroy any effectiveness you might have in a discussion with that label. It's become a dirty word, a epithet. So I don't call myself conservative anymore because life is too short and I don't have time for all of the explanation I'd rather get to the argument main without the explanations.

re: #180 brookly red

well the ones you fear gaining control... are we not a democracy? should not the majority rule?

You are baiting me for what audienceÉ We are both smarter than that.

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

Is it me or is something amiss with the board?
I'm seeing accented characters a lot...

re: #187 Naso Tang

You are baiting me for what audienceÉ We are both smarter than that.

no bating, no audience look around you... the only reason I haven't been dinged to pieces is that I am so spot on even the most partisan back off.

re: #188 Aldous

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

yes

re: #186 Thanos

It's kind of the same reason I refuse to call myself a conservative anymore - the field of people calling themselves that are so rife with bigots, birchers, bile, and birthers that you destroy any effectiveness you might have in a discussion with that label. It's become a dirty word, a epithet. So I don't call myself conservative anymore because life is too short and I don't have time for all of the explanation I'd rather get to the argument main without the explanations.

Amen! I'm in the same boat.

re: #177 engineer dog

also, about $100 billion a year is being added to the income of private insurance companies under the bill. normally, Very Large American Companies put a bit of pressure on congresspeople to make sure that they continue to see large amounts of money

thus, the private health insurance industry has a very significant intrest in not seeing this bill repealed

Possibly. I think they are also highly motivated to make this work. This is a free market solution and if it fails the next option is single payer and the insurance companies go bust. The insurance companies are only part of the problem. If the pharmaceutical companies, doctors or hospitals don't play nice this could all fall apart.

re: #190 brookly red

no bating, no audience look around you... the only reason I haven't been dinged to pieces is that I am so spot on even the most partisan back off.

No Brookly, we are just bored. Too much effort.

re: #186 Thanos

It's kind of the same reason I refuse to call myself a conservative anymore - the field of people calling themselves that are so rife with bigots, birchers, bile, and birthers that you destroy any effectiveness you might have in a discussion with that label. It's become a dirty word, a epithet. So I don't call myself conservative anymore because life is too short and I don't have time for all of the explanation I'd rather get to the argument main without the explanations.

I'm conservative and I won't back down for anybody...but I understand your point of view...right here I've been called every despicable name there is, so be it...bring it on, I'm not that vain about labels, not that you are...convenience rules sometimes

I guess I'm a Closet Conservative nowadays. Too askerd to come out.

re: #190 brookly red

no bating, no audience look around you... the only reason I haven't been dinged to pieces is that I am so spot on even the most partisan back off.

Join the club, even the usual haven't been doing me for a while. We should do tag more often.

re: #188 Aldous

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

the attack must come before the reactor comes on line... once it is up and running destroying it would be a radioactive nightmare.

re: #188 Aldous

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

two years too late imo

re: #189 Varek Raith

Is it me or is something amiss with the board?
I'm seeing accented characters a lot...

all clear from my point of view - maybe the code page or some other setting in your os or browser got changed or garbaged?

try rebooting, as a first measure

re: #161 engineer dog

And another point I would like to make is, if they repeal it, what solutions will there be for those with pre-existing conditions. I've heard little from the Republican what about what to do with those with Pre-Existing conditions like Diabetes, Autism, and others. If the republicans get rid of it, what safeguards will there be for those with Pre-Existing conditions?

re: #197 Naso Tang

Join the club, even the usual haven't been doing me for a while. We should do tag more often.

/ yo mama is so ...

re: #198 brookly red

the attack must come before the reactor comes on line... once it is up and running destroying it would be a radioactive nightmare.

something the mullahs should have considered

re: #194 Stanley Sea

No Brookly, we are just bored. Too much effort.

oh but come on... I thought your hate for me gave purpose to your life, sniff, sniff.

re: #203 albusteve

something the mullahs should have considered

they did hence the stalling...

re: #188 Aldous

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

What country are they in?

re: #204 brookly red

oh but come on... I thought your hate for me gave purpose to your life, sniff, sniff.

it gives purpose to the blog...some people are here all day, every day....consider that

re: #205 brookly red

they did hence the stalling...

then Iran gets radiated...them's the breaks

re: #203 albusteve

something the mullahs should have considered

they have .... and they think they're invulnerable to an attack. and they may be right. but i think they're wrong. they'll be attacked, but not in any overt way. i really think when the mossad takes down iran's nuke program, it will be an inside job that may appear to be a "work accident." and i think it will be timed precisely.

re: #207 albusteve

it gives purpose to the blog...some people are here all day, every day...consider that

Gino's calls... have a good night all.

re: #188 Aldous

My middle-eastern friends all tell me Iran will be attacked soon. Any word on that?

You have anything hard? Because nothing other than the Repubs trying to pass a resolution supporting such action has popped up here.

Links..........

Provide them!

re: #209 _RememberTonyC

they have ... and they think they're invulnerable to an attack. and they may be right. but i think they're wrong. they'll be attacked, but not in any overt way. i really think when the mossad takes down iran's nuke program, it will be an inside job that may appear to be a "work accident." and i think it will be timed precisely.

the alternative is to line up bipartisan support and everyone hit them at once...but of course Israel will have to do the dirty work alone, and take the hit for it...life is so unfair

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Possibly. I think they are also highly motivated to make this work. This is a free market solution and if it fails the next option is single payer and the insurance companies go bust. The insurance companies are only part of the problem. If the pharmaceutical companies, doctors or hospitals don't play nice this could all fall apart.

it's a complicated and difficult situation, for sure. all i know is that some health organizations are working on re-aligning things to try to motivate more efficient, cheaper care instead of everybody gouging everbody else. if this was industry wide, maybe we could get somewhere with costs...

re: #190 brookly red

no bating, no audience look around you... the only reason I haven't been dinged to pieces is that I am so spot on even the most partisan back off.

You're not spot on, You're a broken record.

re: #201 ProLifeLiberal

And another point I would like to make is, if they repeal it, what solutions will there be for those with pre-existing conditions. I've heard little from the Republican what about what to do with those with Pre-Existing conditions like Diabetes, Autism, and others. If the republicans get rid of it, what safeguards will there be for those with Pre-Existing conditions?

surely, uninsured ill people will ultimately cost all of us more than if they are insured, not to mention the suffering of those involved

re: #212 albusteve

the alternative is to line up bipartisan support and everyone hit them at once...but of course Israel will have to do the dirty work alone, and take the hit for it...life is so unfair

israel will be blamed/credited for any attack, whether they do it or not. but israel is going to try to minimize damage to civilians (as it always does) by making it surgical and containing the fallout to the remote areas where thje reactors are located. they're not going to carpet bomb and allow radiation to spread across the whole country. they will use intel and be precise, possibly with the help of iranians and russians whom they have paid off. they're the only ones with the political balls to do this job.

say what you want about the Beach Boys...poor musicians, bots who's harmonies never changed, cannot perform live etc...
I saw them in the early 70s in Denver and they blew me away with their tight playing and superior stage presence...these cats were pretty damned good at their peak...check out the bass line here...and as always, rock on brothers and sisters

re: #217 albusteve

say what you want about the Beach Boys...poor musicians

???

i'll vouch for the excellent musicianship of the beach boys anytime

re: #218 engineer dog

???

i'll vouch for the excellent musicianship of the beach boys anytime

good enough and then some...they got it done
Brian Wilson should be up on Mt Rushmore

re: #211 Bubblehead II

You have anything hard? Because nothing other than the Repubs trying to pass a resolution supporting such action has popped up here.

Links...

Provide them!

I have asked you a direct question. Do you have links to validate news sources to validate your claim?

Good evening LGF.

dump TR, the ass, and put Wilson up there

re: #215 engineer dog

surely, uninsured ill people will ultimately cost all of us more than if they are insured, not to mention the suffering of those involved

A PEC does not apply to everybody, with all insurance companies, necessarily.

For example:
If I am employed by a company, I usually have x number of days after my first date of employment to decide if I want the insurance, and if I decide I do, then I and my family members are fully covered, not necessarily from date of employment, but as soon as I've made the first full month's premium payment. No PEC is applied to any member of the family.

However, if I choose to avoid the group plan, but a year later decide that I want coverage for my family and me, then the PEC would be applied.

The reason this is this way is to avoid having people who just don't want to pay the insurance premium, who LATER get sick and decide they need the insurance, from picking it up and having full coverage for an illness that occurred during a period of time when they COULD have had coverage but weren't paying for it, like everyone else in the company is paying.

Very often, state Medicaid plans have temporary stop-gap catastrophic coverage for people who don't meet the usual income guidelines, but become catastrophically ill.

Now - the situation may be different for a person getting his own coverage because he doesn't have access to an employer group plan, but only, I believe, if the person had NO COVERAGE whatsoever from any insurance plan. If you move from one plan to another, I think the PEC does not apply in many cases.

Anyhow - I understand the need for people to have coverage when they're ill. Which is why you buy insurance before you need it.

The PEC stuff exists to keep people from buying insurance after they discover they're ill, using the insurance for coverage, and then dropping the insurance as soon as they don't need the coverage anymore. If everyone did that, the premiums would be astronomically high, they would have to be as much as the care itself was costing - otherwise, how can a company provide coverage, if what they are taking in in premiums is LESS than what they are paying out in claims? I'm not sure there would be any point to even having such a thing as "health insurance".

re: #223 reine.de.tout

how can a company provide coverage, if what they are taking in in premiums is LESS than what they are paying out in claims?

this is true enough, except that it turns out that in practice insurance companies usually lose money on the payment/claims equation, and mainly make their profits on investment

i'll look up the description of this for you, if you like...

re: #223 reine.de.tout

here is a description from the property and casualty insurance industry from wikipedia:

In the United States, the underwriting loss of property and casualty insurance companies was $142.3 billion in the five years ending 2003. But overall profit for the same period was $68.4 billion, as the result of float. Some insurance industry insiders, most notably Hank Greenberg, do not believe that it is forever possible to sustain a profit from float without an underwriting profit as well, but this opinion is not universally held.

re: #180 brookly red

well the ones you fear gaining control... are we not a democracy? should not the majority rule?

Sorry to be late on this. Got distracted by dinner.

I would just like to point out that real democracy is not winner take all, or rule all, like the beginners think.

re: #224 engineer dog

how can a company provide coverage, if what they are taking in in premiums is LESS than what they are paying out in claims?

this is true enough, except that it turns out that in practice insurance companies usually lose money on the payment/claims equation, and mainly make their profits on investment

i'll look up the description of this for you, if you like...

re: #225 engineer dog

re: #223 reine.de.tout

here is a description from the property and casualty insurance industry from wikipedia:

In the United States, the underwriting loss of property and casualty insurance companies was $142.3 billion in the five years ending 2003. But overall profit for the same period was $68.4 billion, as the result of float. Some insurance industry insiders, most notably Hank Greenberg, do not believe that it is forever possible to sustain a profit from float without an underwriting profit as well, but this opinion is not universally held.

Thanks for the info.
If lots of people only buy health insurance when they become ill, and they drop it when they no longer need it, where is the money for the "float"? I don't think it would be there.

re: #172 albusteve

too bad she won't stand her ground...there is little to be gained from retreating...if she's a Christian than nobody can change that via a bunch of fringe fervor

She's remaining Christian, just not within the Catholic Church. I just read her FB page.

re: #168 Thanos

Yep, she's just not down with calling herself a Christian anymore due to the organized hate groups

When her son came out as gay, she had a hard time reconciling that with her Catholicism. I think I read that her priest told her her son would not go to Hell if he was abstinent, something like that.
I'm sure she has realized she can love her son, love Jesus, and pursue Heaven at the same time.

re: #228 eclectic infidel

She's remaining Christian, just not within the Catholic Church. I just read her FB page.

At least that's my take on it. She also wrote that she quit being a Christian but is still a follower of Christ.

re: #230 eclectic infidel

At least that's my take on it. She also wrote that she quit being a Christian but is still a follower of Christ.

I read this and the couple of posts above and I thought "Anne Rice?".

Looking around I see I was right.
Does that mean she is going to start writing about gay vampires again?

I'm curious, are there many Christians on LGF? I notice a lot of the times Charles loves to run stories about Christian fundamentalists and their anti-gay/anti-abortion/anti any religion except Christianity activities but surely people such as those don't represent all Christians?

re: #232 dragonfire1981

I'm curious, are there many Christians on LGF? I notice a lot of the times Charles loves to run stories about Christian fundamentalists and their anti-gay/anti-abortion/anti any religion except Christianity activities but surely people such as those don't represent all Christians?

I can assure you that LGF has its share of intelligent, rational, and compassionate Christian lizards in its ranks.

re: #232 dragonfire1981

I'm curious, are there many Christians on LGF? I notice a lot of the times Charles loves to run stories about Christian fundamentalists and their anti-gay/anti-abortion/anti any religion except Christianity activities but surely people such as those don't represent all Christians?

well duh