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1 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 9:48:41pm

Stunning, natural beauty of scenery and critters. The video even has lizards!

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:01:59pm

re: #1 eclectic infidel


The video even has lizards!

Them’s the kind what expel excess salt from their bodies by launching it from their nostrils like high velocity, salty booger projectiles.

3 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:03:07pm

Whoa, a whale shark. Those things are huge. They’re harmless to humans, though.

4 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:05:02pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Whoa, a whale shark. Those things are huge. They’re harmless to humans, though.


I’ve always wondered how they know that!!

//

5 angel Graham  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:06:11pm

Stunningly beautiful. I’ll have to show this to Romantic Heretic when he gets back to Toronto tomorrow. He’ll love it.

The music is so perfect for the video. Had to make it a favorite.

6 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:07:55pm

The mind in itself wants nothing, unless it creates a want for itself; therefore it is both free from perturbation and unimpeded, if it does not perturb and impede itself.” - Marcus Aurelius

Into The Mystic


Namste, y’all
7 freetoken  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:08:57pm

re: #2 Slumbering Behemoth

Them’s the kind what expel excess salt from their bodies …

Heh… humans expel salt from our bodies too! Sweating does that.

Speaking of which, when I came across the following video I thought of you, SB. If DWTS was like this, even you would watch it!


(NSFW/NSFDWTS)
8 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:17:20pm

re: #7 freetoken

ZOMG! She’s definately a 9, if not a ten.

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:18:34pm

re: #7 freetoken

Heh… humans expel salt from our bodies too! Sweating does that.

This I know, but I would trade sweating for the ability to launch salty snot projectiles from my nostrils up to ten feet. Maybe just for one day.

Speaking of which, when I came across the following video I thought of you, SB.

Make it two women, and you’ve definitely got my number. And WTF was up with Mr. Tan-Suit at the end there? Jealousy?

10 Kragar  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:19:10pm

re: #7 freetoken

Heh… humans expel salt from our bodies too! Sweating does that.

Speaking of which, when I came across the following video I thought of you, SB. If DWTS was like this, even you would watch it!

[Video]
(NSFW/NSFDWTS)

GOOOAAALLL!

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:20:48pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

ZOMG! She’s definately a 9, if not a ten.

Oh, I’d give her a “ten”, if you know what I mean.
/:P

12 Kragar  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:22:23pm

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I’d give her a “ten”, if you know what I mean.
/:P

a 2.5 4 times?

13 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:22:25pm

re: #7 freetoken

New TV show, Dancing With The PORN Stars!?!?!

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:27:08pm

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

a 2.5 4 times?

Sir, how dare you steal away a chance for me to engage in self deprecating humor! I demand satisfaction! Pistols at dawn, if you know what I mean.

/I was actually going to follow that up with “And by that I mean, give it to her twice”.

15 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:30:11pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

Sir, how dare you steal away a chance for me to engage in self deprecating humor! I demand satisfaction! Pistols at dawn, if you know what I mean.

/I was actually going to follow that up with “And by that I mean, give it to her twice”.

Twice? So once in the evening and the second time at dawn after you’ve had six hours of sleep? :D

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:31:49pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

I was thinking more along the lines of the first and the fifteenth. WTF do you think I am, Superman?
/

17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:36:36pm

re: #13 sattv4u2

New TV show, Dancing With The PORN Stars!?!?!

Heh, I’d take dancing lessons to be on that show.
/I’m already pretty good at the other stuff, if you know what I mean.

18 Kragar  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:38:16pm

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, I’d take dancing lessons to be on that show.
/I’m already pretty good at the other stuff, if you know what I mean.

Fapping?

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:39:38pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

yes
:(

20 freetoken  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:48:29pm

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

Make it two women, and you’ve definitely got my number. And WTF was up with Mr. Tan-Suit at the end there? Jealousy?

Well, it’s Argentina’s answer to DWTS, so I suppose anything goes…

As for Mr. Tan-suit, it looks like a “work”, which means it must be part of a story-line of some sort.

21 Kragar  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:51:16pm

The Rich Are Different: More Money, Less Empathy

In a series of experiments, the new study found that lower-class people were better at reading emotions on others’ faces — one measure of what researchers call empathic accuracy — than people in the upper class. “A lot of what we see is a baseline orientation for the lower class to be more empathetic and the upper class to be less [so],” says Michael Kraus, a co-author of the study and a postdoctoral student at the University of California, San Francisco.

Why might that be? “Lower-class environments are much different from upper-class environments,” explains Kraus. “Lower-class individuals have to respond chronically to a number of vulnerabilities and social threats. You really need to depend on others so they will tell you if a social threat or opportunity is coming and that makes you more perceptive of emotions.”

Study co-author Dacher Keltner, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, agrees that people in lower socioeconomic classes “live lives defined by threat. They are threatened by the environment, by institutions and by other people. One of most adaptive strategies in response to threat is to be very vigilant and carefully attend to others and try to promote cooperation to build strong alliances.”

22 lostlakehiker  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 10:58:36pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Empathy is not the same thing as charity. A person may be not much good at reading other people’s emotions, kind of a geek, perhaps, and yet pony up billions for fighting malaria in Africa and so on: Bill Gates.

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:04:23pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

For the new study, Kraus and his colleagues conducted three different experiments. The first involved 200 university employees, some with college degrees and some without; the university setting is one in which educational attainment is particularly linked to job status and can be used as a proxy for social class.
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The second experiment involved college students who were asked to rate their own class status by placing themselves on a ladder representing various class ranks.
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In the third experiment, students were asked to compare their own class status with either someone at the top of the socioeconomic ladder — or someone at the bottom.

Sounds less than scientific to me. Perhaps they could do a study on the influence of hip-hop culture in modern America, and restrict the participants to metal heads like me.
/:P

24 freetoken  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:07:39pm

re: #13 sattv4u2

New TV show, Dancing With The PORN Stars!?!?!

It’s just a TV show south of the border:

A slightly tamer routine:

The blog:
[Link: bailando1.blogspot.com…]

Not really so much different than what one might find on HBO, etc. Still, I can’t see the BBC doing this…

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:11:17pm
The good news for those stuck on the bottom, however, is that the people around them may be nicer.

I got friends in low places.
/

Seriously, though, the study sounds silly. Or at least, that reporter’s interpretation of it does. I grew up “stuck on the bottom”, and there wasn’t a whole lot of “niceness” going on there. Still ain’t. I imagine the same could be said for those “stuck at the top”.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:13:27pm

re: #24 freetoken

That settles it. I’m moving to Brazil.
/

27 freetoken  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:18:14pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

That settles it. I’m moving to Brazil.
/

Argentina.

But heh, you got the right continent.

However, you can’t see Russian from there…

28 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:18:51pm

re: #24 freetoken

It’s just a TV show south of the border

Yes, I know

I was making a joke

I see more shows/ stations like this in my line of work than most do. South America, Europe, Eastern Europe. There are many such shows around the globe

29 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:19:59pm

re: #27 freetoken

Argentina.

But heh, you got the right continent.

However, you can’t see Russian from there…

I can from here !

as a matter of fact, we have one dish aimed at a “Russian” satellite feeding CNN 24/7

30 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:20:26pm

re: #27 freetoken

Argentina.

But heh, you got the right continent.

However, you can’t see Russian from there

I can from here !

as a matter of fact, we have one dish aimed at a “Russian” satellite feeding CNN 24/7

pimf

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:21:52pm

re: #27 freetoken

Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, whatever. I’d be more than content with the ladies in any of those places.

32 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:22:22pm

Gahh..I have had enough for today!

Mom has kindly left me about 30,000 photos, in file boxes, in hanging files, in plastic totes. After two hours last night and close to ten hours today of sorting through them I think it is time to quit for a bit. I’ve maybe gone through 20% of them so far…

What I’m trying to do is to find photos of Mom for her memorial board and also the “background slide show” my brother wants to do during her memorial service. So far I’m doing pretty good I think considering how disorganized all of this stuff is.

New question:

So am I wrong for wanting to do a comedy routine to some of the slide show photos? I can’t help wanting to do it, it started writing itself in my head while I was sorting some of this stuff. Maybe it is not a great idea though…?

33 freetoken  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:24:30pm

re: #32 ausador

So am I wrong for wanting to do a comedy routine to some of the slide show photos?

No, I don’t think so, at all. If you mother’s personality included times of when she showed humor it is more befitting to try and capture that than ignore it.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:25:45pm

re: #32 ausador

So am I wrong for wanting to do a comedy routine to some of the slide show photos?

You know your family, would it go over well? Personally, I figure any levity done in good taste would be appropriate and welcomed for the occasion, but not everyone feels that way.

Go with your gut on this, I say.

35 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 26, 2010 11:32:09pm

Goodnight, all.

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 12:22:56am

Done like a bun that weighs a ton. Laters all.

37 freetoken  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 12:36:40am
38 freetoken  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 1:02:15am
39 freetoken  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 1:17:42am
40 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:10:19am

re: #7 freetoken

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

You twelve year-olds need to get off the Internet.

41 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:11:30am

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

sounds right to me

42 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:19:25am

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

That settles it. I’m moving to Brazil.
/

The Brazillian porn industry does not engage in STD testing. Without exception, American porn ‘actors’ who have turned up HIV-positive had previously shot scenes in Brazil. Just sayin’.

43 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:32:44am

Jewish? Gay? Join us, white extremists say
[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]

New branches of the League, such as the Jewish Division …

As well as aggravating religious tensions, the EDL has established a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Division …

Kinda makes it simpler for them when they defeat Islam and need to deal with the old enemies.

44 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:52:04am

re: #43 Sergey Romanov

Kinda harkens back to those good old days when Capitalist Imperialists banded together with Stalinist Communists to defeat Fascism…

45 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 3:58:11am

re: #44 ralphieboy

Strange bedfellows I can understand, if the goal is achievable. Stalin was as evil as Hitler, but he was less harmful, so it was worth aligning with this lesser harm since he had a good chance of defeating Hitler, which in the end he did. It was real. Here we have a minuscule group that won’t accomplish anything but stirring hate. It’s a hatesturbation, nothing else.

46 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:07:32am

re: #45 Sergey Romanov

Stalin was seen as less of an immediate threat to the Western Allies, and a necessary evil.

I guess that is how the EDL people see gays and Jews these days. Perhaps they could sit down and sign a non-aggression pact with a few secret protocols…

47 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:11:19am

re: #46 ralphieboy

Stalin was seen as less of an immediate threat to the Western Allies, and a necessary evil.

I guess that is how the EDL people see gays and Jews these days. Perhaps they could sit down and sign a non-aggression pact with a few secret protocols…

Ah, yes. I was thinking more from the Allies’ perspective. The minority members wishing to join this hatefest are dumb. But from the EDL perspective this, of course, makes all the sense in the world, that goes without saying.

48 laZardo  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:19:41am
49 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:27:40am

re: #47 Sergey Romanov


Did you ever read Suvorov’s The Icebreaker?

A rather interesting explanation of how Hitler managed to kick Stalin’s butt so thoroughly in the opening weeks of the invasion of Russia.

50 researchok  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:29:52am

Morning, all.

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:33:07am

re: #49 ralphieboy

Sure. Though to say that I’m unimpressed with Suvorov’s general thesis is an understatement. But I won’t get into this discussion, about which numerous thick volumes have been written.

52 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:37:20am

re: #51 Sergey Romanov


He gets carried away in places, but his point is that the Red Army was not in any sort of defensive posture; it was in a position to launch an attack and was caught completley off guard.

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:38:10am

re: #52 ralphieboy

Yes, I know what his point is.

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 4:44:08am

So, let’s move on to something more up to date like college football season…

55 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 5:45:04am

Mornin’ Lizards … Some Somali guy tried to detonate a bomb at the Christmas tree lighting in Portland last night, but was prevented from doing so. His name was Mohamed Mohamud. Color me shocked …

56 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 5:49:03am

Wonderful video. I know remarks like this do not get any updings but it was very interesting.

57 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 5:51:51am

re: #55 _RememberTonyC

Mornin’ Lizards … Some Somali guy tried to detonate a bomb at the Christmas tree lighting in Portland last night, but was prevented from doing so. His name was Mohamed Mohamud. Color me shocked …

Yeah, I can already hear the racists screeching: “Yet another black terrorist!”

///

58 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 5:57:04am

re: #57 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, I can already hear the racists screeching: “Yet another black terrorist!”

///

This one looks around 15 years old … Scary

59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:03:26am

re: #57 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, I can already hear the racists screeching: “Yet another black terrorist!”

Color of skin is entirely irrelevant.

60 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:06:24am

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Color of skin is entirely irrelevant.

No more relevant then the fact that he belongs to Islam.

61 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:06:51am

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Color of skin is entirely irrelevant.

As is his name, I might add.

62 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:12:38am

Criminals come in all colors and religions … But how does a 19 year old become so filled with hatred that he wants to murder hundreds while shouting Allah Akbar?

63 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:20:10am

Criminals come in all colors and religions… But how does a 19 year old become so filled with hatred that he murders and wounds peaceful Arabs on a bus in Israel?

///

How does that sound? Bad?

Yeah, by hook or by crook, but let’s blame the larger group for the deeds of the few.

The only truly relevant factor is if he were in some radical sect of Islam.

64 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:24:16am

re: #63 Sergey Romanov

Criminals come in all colors and religions… But how does a 19 year old become so filled with hatred that he murders and wounds peaceful Arabs on a bus in Israel?

///

How does that sound? Bad?

Yeah, by hook or by crook, but let’s blame the larger group for the deeds of the few.


As I said, criminals come in all colors and religions. This guy shouted Allah Akbar as he tried to do his dirty deed. So his motivation could not have possibly had anything to do with Islam … Right. Did I say all Muslims are terrorists? No. So spare me the lectures. there are jewish criminals too … I get that.

The only truly relevant factor is if he were in some radical sect of Islam.

65 laZardo  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:42:14am

Sometimes I think I’m jinxed to adopt technology right before it goes out of style.

I have a 500GB SeaGate external HDD that requires its own external AC power source. I bought it in December 2007 right before external HDDs became cheaper and smaller. Now you can get one the size of a pocket book with the same capacity for cheaper.

My laptop has an ATI Radeon 9800 that I got right when games started requiring Shader Model 3.0 at the minimum. The 9800 does Shader Model 2.0.

I got a Nintendo DS “Tank” (for Pokémon, and because I do like to play the old GBA games once in a while) right before they announced the 3DS.

Finally, my aunt gave me a hand-me-down iPod Mini for my previous birthday. 2GB more than my previous MP3 player, but everybody know…it for girls!

/it’s tough being square. ;_;

66 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:43:03am

re: #64 _RememberTonyC

LOL, quit making strawmen arguments, who said that it didn’t have anything to do with Islam (as opposed to Islam in general being irrelevant, which is true)? The boy is a radical Islamist. Nobody denies it, as far as I can see. Who said that you said that “all Muslims are terrorists”? Nobody here.

But just to quote you again:

His name was Mohamed Mohamud. Color me shocked …

[…]

Criminals come in all colors and religions … But how does a 19 year old become so filled with hatred that he wants to murder hundreds while shouting Allah Akbar?

(I especially like the “but” part. Classic.)

Translation: “let’s single out Islam (by emphasizing the Islamic-sounding name and by feigning surprise at how so young a Muslim can hate so much, as if it doesn’t happen elsewhere) and imply that there’s something wrong with it in general, rather than focus strictly on radicals”.

67 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:46:47am

re: #66 Sergey Romanov

I hear a rumbling in the blogoshphere, as if a million voices cried out “We must profile!!!”

That will be the right-wing talking point expressed in various degrees of intensity: that he was black and Muslim, therefore we must profile such people if we want to be safe.

a side note:

Mohamed Mohamud? Can’t these people settle on one spelling?

/

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 6:48:55am

BBL.

69 laZardo  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:01:24am

Slow thread, gonna get a snack then head to bed.

Enjoy your weekend world.

70 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:01:47am

re: #67 ralphieboy

I hear a rumbling in the blogoshphere, as if a million voices cried out “We must profile!!!”

That will be the right-wing talking point expressed in various degrees of intensity: that he was black and Muslim, therefore we must profile such people if we want to be safe.

a side note:

Mohamed Mohamud? Can’t these people settle on one spelling?

/


A bit of profiling there!!?!?!

just sayin!

71 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:12:13am

I know, hence the sarc tag…

Actually there is a problem with transliterating Arabic as it has no vowels, which is why we see Osama/Usama Bin Ladin/Laden, Mohammed/Muhammad/Muhammud, Moslem/Muslim, Quran/Koran, etc…

And it has lead to problems with our own security services, as they have misidentified people or confused them over variations on their spelling…

72 Crimsonfisted  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:34:20am

Just beautiful! Wow.

73 Idle Drifter  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:39:01am

I feel happy….

74 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:46:14am

re: #73 Idle Drifter

I feel happy…

Was “Happy” okay with you feeling him/her??!?!?

Are you a TSA screener!?!?!?

75 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 7:59:44am

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

No more relevant then the fact that he belongs to Islam.

I’m sorry but that fact is relevant. That man is part of a Radical Islam that thinks terrorism is justified in the name of Allah. Their claims to Islam are relevant in that context, and in the context of refuting those claims. Say that his adherence to Islam is relevant however, does not, repeat does not mean that actions should be taken against Muslims generally or that Islam itself is to blame.

76 PT Barnum  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:03:13am

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

I’m sorry but that fact is relevant. That man is part of a Radical Islam that thinks terrorism is justified in the name of Allah. Their claims to Islam are relevant in that context, and in the context of refuting those claims. Say that his adherence to Islam is relevant however, does not, repeat does not mean that actions should be taken against Muslims generally or that Islam itself is to blame.

What’s missing here is that not one person has noticed that all of the successes in preventing terror attacks are coming through good quality law enforcement and not torturing or blowing up anybody.

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:07:32am

re: #76 PT Barnum

What’s missing here is that not one person has noticed that all of the successes in preventing terror attacks are coming through good quality law enforcement and not torturing or blowing up anybody.

Blowing up Al Qaeda’s leaders does prevent attacks, though it does so mostly by so disrupting that organization’s C3 (Command, Control, Communications) capabilites as to cripple its ability to command and supply its terrorist operatives. Not questioning the need for good intel and law enforcement, but the drone attacks are a key piece of the puzzle.

78 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:13:09am

re: #76 PT Barnum

What’s missing here is that not one person has noticed that all of the successes in preventing terror attacks are coming through good quality law enforcement and not torturing or blowing up anybody.

It’s coming through entrapping poor people.

79 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:15:44am

Homeland Security seizes domain names
By Sara Jerome - 11/26/10 04:25 PM ET
The investigative arm of the Homeland Security Department appears to be shutting down websites that facilitate copyright infringement.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has seized dozens of domain names over the past few days, according to TorrentFreak.

[Link: thehill.com…]

Image: dhs.jpg

80 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:16:17am

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

They have been investigating this fellow since August, 2009, if I heard the report on the radio correctly.

81 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:16:56am

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

It’s coming through entrapping poor people.

Morning Walter
Wasn’t this kid searching the Net to find a terrorist connection to supply him with explosives?
Legally, if true, is not considered entrapment

82 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:17:00am

re: #76 PT Barnum

What’s missing here is that not one person has noticed that all of the successes in preventing terror attacks are coming through good quality law enforcement and not torturing or blowing up anybody.

I would argue that blowing up terrorists in their camps prevents them from further actions!

(you could argue that it helps “recruit” more terrorists, and I would give some validity to that). But stating that “torture” and not “blowing up anybody” isn’t a detriment is incorrect, imho

83 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:25:31am

need fresh OJ..bbl

84 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:26:59am

re: #81 HoosierHoops

Morning Walter
Wasn’t this kid searching the Net to find a terrorist connection to supply him with explosives?
Legally, if true, is not considered entrapment

Agreed. Sting operations to catch would-be Jihadis are an important tactic. Not only do the allow the removal of those who have become radicalized (and only those people, which helps reduce the need to surveil more broadly), but the also disrupt terrorist networks. Radicals looking to turn terrorist won’t know if the person at the other end of the Internet connection is Al Qaeda or FBI.

85 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:29:39am

Another article about Department of Homeland Security seizing the domains of file sharing sites and sites that sell counterfeit hard goods…

U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

[Link: torrentfreak.com…]

The comments at the end of the article are “enlightening…”

(sample)

Someone really needs to shoot some people in the US to make this go away. Who do these people think they are? Since when do they OWN the [Link: WWW…] WORLD Wide Web – not AWW. Someone needs to teach this country a lesson.

86 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:29:40am

re: #83 HoosierHoops

need fresh OJ..bbl

Tell him he’s still a killer!

87 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:30:57am

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

The comments at the end of the article are “enlightening…”

(sample

A right wing/ anti gov’t/ teabagger, no doubt!!!

88 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:31:11am

Good day all. Since I got that nice Canon, Working in HD sure is helping my patience. Or gonna kill me. I have clipped what was only 45 minutes of landscape footage to about 30 minutes, sped it up to play in a few minutes. Clouds flying by etc. My export to QT or Windows media is 12 to 14 hours.

I have got to get a hold of an 8 core Win 7 tower.

89 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:39:13am

re: #88 Rightwingconspirator

Good day all. Since I got that nice Canon, Working in HD sure is helping my patience. Or gonna kill me. I have clipped what was only 45 minutes of landscape footage to about 30 minutes, sped it up to play in a few minutes. Clouds flying by etc. My export to QT or Windows media is 12 to 14 hours.

I have got to get a hold of an 8 core Win 7 tower.

I’m sure that means something to someone somewhere!

Me ,, not so much!!

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90 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:41:41am

re: #88 Rightwingconspirator

Good day all. Since I got that nice Canon, Working in HD sure is helping my patience. Or gonna kill me. I have clipped what was only 45 minutes of landscape footage to about 30 minutes, sped it up to play in a few minutes. Clouds flying by etc. My export to QT or Windows media is 12 to 14 hours.

I have got to get a hold of an 8 core Win 7 tower.

I wish i could afford one of those. Hopefully, next year things will improve to the point I can actually make a major purchase.

91 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:42:52am

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

These would be those who steal intellectual property with abandon bitching? Too damn bad. They like to think it’s just “big corporations” they are screwing. They never admit it’s working artists and the supporting casts, labels, crews…
I hope the agencies crush the thievery sites.

92 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:49:19am
93 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:51:07am

re: #91 Rightwingconspirator

These would be those who steal intellectual property with abandon bitching? Too damn bad. They like to think it’s just “big corporations” they are screwing. They never admit it’s working artists and the supporting casts, labels, crews…
I hope the agencies crush the thievery sites.

If you do any searching of the LGF archives, you will see that I have been one of the most vocal supporters of copyright protection. As a published playwright, who has actually found “perusal” copies of my plays, which I had sent out for consideration to colleges requesting the material, being used without permission as excerpted monologues and scene cuts in classes, which is illegal.

But I am a little concerned about the “reach” that DHS and ICE has in this venture. It seems to me this should be the affair of the parties involved, private industry and the such.

How does this fall under the jurisdiction of DHS and ICE?

94 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:52:14am

re: #89 sattv4u2
For all the content you direct in your job, you’d be impressed by an HD editing bay I think.
re: #90 Dark_Falcon

I may borrow the money. D_L is still out of meaningful amounts of work, and we want to take our editing commercial. We’ll do from Demo reels for actors (huge in my area, like the head shot biz) and via camera stores, vacation videos for consumers with shiny new HD cameras. My dual core is just not up to it. It did SD really well for years.

I’m turning away that work for now. That’s not smart in a weak economy.

95 darthstar  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:54:10am

Free Willy!

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

96 darthstar  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:54:57am

re: #95 darthstar

Free WillyWillie! PIMF

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

97 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:55:19am

re: #95 darthstar

Free Willy!

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

His agent must of said something like… “you need a career boost… go outside and smoke that”

98 BishopX  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:56:23am

re: #93 Walter L. Newton

I think it falls under ICE becuase some of the site were registered by foriegners. Torrent-finder is run by an Egyptian for example.

My only thought about DHS is that they needed some authority to seize property inside the us.

99 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:56:48am

Ah well ,,

The long quiet drive home beckons

Have a great one,all

100 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:58:05am

re: #98 BishopX

I think it falls under ICE becuase some of the site were registered by foriegners. Torrent-finder is run by an Egyptian for example.

My only thought about DHS is that they needed some authority to seize property inside the us.

You never answered my question. What does sharing music and video files, or oversea companies that sell copies of Gucci handbags have to do with homeland security or immigration?

101 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 8:59:27am

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

You never answered my question. What does sharing music and video files, or oversea companies that sell copies of Gucci handbags have to do with homeland security or immigration?

I know… it’s Bush’s fault.

102 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:00:23am

Instapundit thinks it’s a conspiracy to appease rappers…

HOMELAND SECURITY is seizing Internet domains left and right. It’s not clear what protecting fatcat entertainment folks’ copyrights has to do with homeland security, though.

UPDATE: Protecting Rappers instead of the border. “What the devil are these idiots doing? … This is a case for the music industry’s lawyers — not the $35 billion-a-year Department of Homeland Security.” Well, to be fair, the entertainment industries make a lot of political contributions to Democrats.

103 BishopX  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:00:39am

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

ICE = Immagration and customs Enforcement.

dealing with the “importation” of infringing goods is actually ICE’s job.

104 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:02:35am

re: #103 BishopX

ICE = Immagration and customs Enforcement.

dealing with the “importation” of infringing goods is actually ICE’s job.

Good point… now… how does DHS figure into this?

105 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:03:44am

re: #93 Walter L. Newton
Thank you for a strong stance on that. I thought we were on the same page.
Nobody else has the resources (I suspect) to stand up to a situation like China. Customs enforcement is critical to the small biz recovery.

106 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:03:51am

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

You never answered my question. What does sharing music and video files, or oversea companies that sell copies of Gucci handbags have to do with homeland security or immigration?

DHS was folded into Immigration Service Dept in 2003. Immigration of under the Treasurt Dept wich is controll of the Secret Service, Counterfeiting and forgery.
10 seconds to google is worth the effort.

107 Skeetghazi  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:03:53am

re: #96 darthstar

6 Oz. Go Willie!

108 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:04:41am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

DHS was folded into Immigration Service Dept in 2003. Immigration of under the Treasurt Dept wich is controll of the Secret Service, Counterfeiting and forgery.
10 seconds to google is worth the effort.

I was trying to find the connection, I didn’t… thanks for the info.

109 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:07:03am

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Instapundit thinks it’s a conspiracy to appease rappers…

Instapundit blows the dog whistle. Say “It’s all the fault of black people” and watch the racists swarm. I really though as a nation we’d gotten past this shit. That some us haven’t pisses me off greatly.

110 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:07:30am

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

I was trying to find the connection, I didn’t… thanks for the info.

Anyone wants to guess if DHS and ICE shuts down Wikileaks next?

111 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:09:13am

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

Anyone wants to guess if DHS and ICE shuts down Wikileaks next?

Likely not, though I hope they find a way to do that. Wikileaks has become a destructive force in the world and ought to be shut down.

112 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:13:40am

re: #111 Dark_Falcon

Likely not, though I hope they find a way to do that. Wikileaks has become a destructive force in the world and ought to be shut down.

I think the DHS can only shut down us hosted domains. Wikileaks, pirate bay, etc are ll overseas.

113 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:16:00am

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Good practice for our cyber warriors. I think they need it.

114 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:16:21am

re: #112 Killgore Trout

I think the DHS can only shut down us hosted domains. Wikileaks, pirate bay, etc are ll overseas.

That’s why I said ‘likely not’. However, i do think the US should actively try to hack Wikileaks and shut it down. That’s illegal, of course, but in my opinion it would acceptable if the attacks could be plausibly denied.

115 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:24:11am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

That’s why I said ‘likely not’. However, i do think the US should actively try to hack Wikileaks and shut it down. That’s illegal, of course, but in my opinion it would acceptable if the attacks could be plausibly denied.

My solutions for wikileaks are harsher and probably even less legal.

116 prairiefire  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:30:18am

Howdy, lizards. Did anybody get any good deals on Black Friday?

117 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:32:04am

re: #116 prairiefire

I bought a seed grinder.

118 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:33:46am

re: #115 Killgore Trout

My solutions for wikileaks are harsher and probably even less legal.

So are what I’d like to say about them. But I obey the forum rules and confine myself to non-violent solutions for non-violent malefactors. Hacking him is something I can suggest without getting in trouble.

119 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:35:04am

Yesterday I mentioned how Drudge and other right wing blogs seem ahead of what appears on extremist forums. Even the Paulians have noticed that pretty much everything they email to Drudge gets linked….
How much of Drudge links from Ronpaulforums?

He has another lead on his page from us possibly or not.

It seems like whatever people email him appears up there.


…..

There’s been a lot of overlap lately.
120 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 9:41:46am

re: #116 prairiefire

Howdy, lizards. Did anybody get any good deals on Black Friday?

I sold a bike.

/I’m on the other side….

121 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 27, 2010 2:52:04pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

I’m sorry but that fact is relevant.

Nope, it’s not.

That man is part of a Radical Islam

Absolutely - the fact that he belongs to radical Islam is relevant. The fact that he belongs to Islam is not.

Disagree? Then how about these assertions:

1. The fact that he belongs to a religion is relevant.

2. The fact that he is a theist is relevant.


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