Saturday Afternoon Open
Imminent deficit disaster open thread
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Here’s a thread for a sunny Saturday afternoon. Just an open thread, nothing more, nothing less.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:04:35pm |
I hope all Lizards are enjoying a glorious summer day. I am heading to a BBQ ... Burgers and beer .... What could be bad?
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sod Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:06:47pm |
re: #1 _RememberTonyC
What could be bad?
A pounding headache from the oppressive heat and dehydration.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:09:10pm |
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Spocomptonite Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:16:25pm |
Can I just say I'm rather flabbergasted that my page got featured? Charles, if you hand-pick them, I'm quite honored. Thanks!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:24:59pm |
Sure enough, Yuppie Neighbor is back to power blasting paint ships again today. Now he's carefully blasting them into the house on the other side of him. I left my shop vac out hoping to drop a hint, he could have vacuumed them up in an hour or two. Instead he's going to spend all day today, and probably tomorow with the power washer. I guess what's really really frustrating isn;t so much the environmental pollution, but that he's putting so much effort and time into it. I could have scraped that porch by hand and cleaned up in 8-10 hours. He's spending at least 4 ten hour days blasting paint chips into the soil with a power tool.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:25:31pm |
Homegrown iced green tea with mint and lemon. Yum!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:27:51pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:29:20pm |
re: #8 Sergey Romanov
Oooh. *green with envy*
I'll do a gardening page on growing tea one of these days. It's actually very easy.
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Spocomptonite Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:30:01pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Sure enough, Yuppie Neighbor is back to power blasting paint ships again today. Now he's carefully blasting them into the house on the other side of him. I left my shop vac out hoping to drop a hint, he could have vacuumed them up in an hour or two. Instead he's going to spend all day today, and probably tomorow with the power washer. I guess what's really really frustrating isn;t so much the environmental pollution, but that he's putting so much effort and time into it. I could have scraped that porch by hand and cleaned up in 8-10 hours. He's spending at least 4 ten hour days blasting paint chips into the soil with a power tool.
He sounds like Limbaugh: destroying the environment just to spite it.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:33:45pm |
I just created a page where you can vote for the top 10 sexist athletes in the world..5 woman, 5 guys.. So whether it's Danica Patrick, Juan Pablo or some Columbian Olympic Volleyball/Model/porn star you can vote today!
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:34:03pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
I'll do a gardening page on growing tea one of these days. It's actually very easy.
Just be sure to leave the paint chips out of it.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:36:46pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
I just created a page where you can vote for the top 10 sexist athletes in the world..5 woman, 5 guys.. So whether it's Danica Patrick, Juan Pablo or some Columbian Olympic Volleyball/Model/porn star you can vote today!
Did you know you can edit your page?
Did you see your first comment?
:)
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:38:29pm |
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simoom Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:40:55pm |
Fareed Zakaria AC360 interview:
[Link: ac360.blogs.cnn.com...]
Tea Party debt ceiling agenda fundamentally anti-democratic [...] counter-constitutional. [...] An extra-ordinary act of hostage-taking [...] it has already damaged the standing of the United States.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:41:20pm |
re: #13 wrenchwench
Did you know you can edit your page?
Did you see your first comment?
:)
I can't figure out how to edit my title...
Spell check /on
Idiot Check / off
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:44:52pm |
Waiting on both the plumber and the tow truck guy, one of which is an hour late and the other a half hour. They were supposed to be staggered appointments, but now it looks like they'll both be getting here at the same time. :/ Not the most fun Saturday, but could be worse.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:45:46pm |
re: #16 HoosierHoops
I can't figure out how to edit my title...
Spell check /on
Idiot Check / off
There's a pencil icon by the heart and other icons. Click it and you can edit any part of your Page.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:48:51pm |
re: #12 reine.de.tout
Just be sure to leave the paint chips out of it.
I could sprinkle them around the rim of the glass like a margarita!
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:52:03pm |
Thinking of indulging in some vodka tonight. Just to loosen up of course.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:55:06pm |
re: #20 dragonfire1981
One of my co-workers (married to a Russian woman, lots of vodka drinking experience) says that this vodka is hugely under-rated, and a great bargain: [Link: www.wegmans.com...]
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:55:07pm |
re: #19 Killgore Trout
I could sprinkle them around the rim of the glass like a margarita!
Mmmm, lead and/or latex!
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:58:33pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
There's a pencil icon by the heart and other icons. Click it and you can edit any part of your Page.
wow..that was a close one..Thanks!
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Lidane Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:01:56pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Sure enough, Yuppie Neighbor is back to power blasting paint ships again today. Now he's carefully blasting them into the house on the other side of him.
Sounds like this guy is a pro at making friends.
///
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:07:35pm |
re: #24 Lidane
Sounds like this guy is a pro at making friends.
///
That's the awful pitbull family on the other side of him. If they get pissed it's a big problem.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:07:55pm |
Managed to get two dogs, two bikes, and all my gear into the Smart...
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:09:26pm |
Made real progress today at last on the feature I mentioned a while ago -- the ability to promote LGF Pages to the front page.
Turned out to be much more complicated than I originally thought; it required some upgrading of the user permissions system and some semi-gnarly MySQL table joining queries. But the actual code to promote a Page is almost ready to test.
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sagehen Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:09:53pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Sure enough, Yuppie Neighbor is back to power blasting paint ships again today. Now he's carefully blasting them into the house on the other side of him. I left my shop vac out hoping to drop a hint, he could have vacuumed them up in an hour or two. Instead he's going to spend all day today, and probably tomorow with the power washer. I guess what's really really frustrating isn;t so much the environmental pollution, but that he's putting so much effort and time into it. I could have scraped that porch by hand and cleaned up in 8-10 hours. He's spending at least 4 ten hour days blasting paint chips into the soil with a power tool.
have you tried... offering to show him a better way?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:10:22pm |
re: #26 darthstar
Managed to get two dogs, two bikes, and all my gear into the Smart...
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Ok. Now who's gonna pull it?
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:12:21pm |
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:13:15pm |
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:14:25pm |
Didn't the GOP get enough fail yesterday? They're actually going to double-down on it today? Must suck to be them.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:14:25pm |
Found out something really interesting about my Mom: she likes watching the X-Games, specifically the skateboarding events.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:16:02pm |
re: #33 Dante41
Found out something really interesting about my Mom: she likes watching the X-Games, specifically the skateboarding events.
Might be a good idea to see if she's hiding drugs in her room...or at least have "that talk" with her about peer pressure.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:16:02pm |
re: #28 sagehen
have you tried... offering to show him a better way?
Nah, I'm pretty sure he's hell bent on his chosen method. I thought he might get the hint. I think his wife is pissed about it too but he's still power washing anyways. I think it's best if I stay out of it. I'm even afraid to go out and look. I'll check on monday and do whatever cleanup needs to be done while he's at work.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:16:55pm |
re: #26 darthstar
Managed to get two dogs, two bikes, and all my gear into the Smart...
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Ha!
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:19:37pm |
re: #34 darthstar
Heh. She says that it takes a lot of skill plus incredible coordination and balance to pull off the tricks that the people do, like ice-skating. It is just unusual for someone her age to make that acknowledgment and connection.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:34:28pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:34:53pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
Is this Killgore Trout's Tea Party?
//
Oh, I forgot to quit posting on the last thread. Now rectified.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:36:59pm |
re: #40 wrenchwench
Oh, I forgot to quit posting on the last thread. Now rectified.
Yeah. I had to shut up before I turned into "Gus the atheist douche." That can happen you know. ;)
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blueraven Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:38:53pm |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
Nah, I'm pretty sure he's hell bent on his chosen method. I thought he might get the hint. I think his wife is pissed about it too but he's still power washing anyways. I think it's best if I stay out of it. I'm even afraid to go out and look. I'll check on monday and do whatever cleanup needs to be done while he's at work.
Some men are just addicted to their power washers. He could lay out some plastic or some other material to catch the paint chips.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:39:58pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
Yeah. I had to shut up before I turned into "Gus the atheist douche." That can happen you know. ;)
Don't worry...you're still a douche.
/
As always, I'm only here to help.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:40:44pm |
re: #42 blueraven
Some men are just addicted to their power washers. He could lay out some plastic or some other material to catch the paint chips.
Ooh...I probably need one of those.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:41:27pm |
re: #43 darthstar
Don't worry...you're still a douche.
/As always, I'm only here to help.
I know where you live! I'll be there within the hour.
//
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:43:12pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
Yeah. I had to shut up before I turned into "Gus the atheist douche." That can happen you know. ;)
I've been turned into a feminist. I think "feminist douche" is a phrase that cannot be used.
I have to post once more on that thread, to thank allegro for the link.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:45:59pm |
re: #47 wrenchwench
I think "feminist douche" is a phrase that cannot be used.
Would be a great product name, though.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:46:15pm |
re: #45 Gus 802
I know where you live! I'll be there within the hour.
//
I'm sorry...darth's not home right now. Please leave your death-threat after the beep.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:51:34pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:53:55pm |
re: #51 rwdflynavy
Good Evening Honcos!
How bout some George?
[Video]
Boy George? George Michael? George Harrison? George Clinton? George Clooney? Curious George?
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:54:08pm |
Harry Reid rips the turtle a new asshole:
Republican leaders still refuse to negotiate in good faith. Revenue is off the calendar - no way we can talk about revenue. Entitlements? Oh, they're after entitlements. Medicare, Social Security. The Speaker and Republican Leader should know that merely saying you have an agreement in front of a few television cameras doesn't make it so. The Republican Leader at the press event says he's engaged. Fortunately, members of his caucus are - at least as far as I'm concerned and my members - are more engaged than he is. There are meaningful talks going on with some of his members and my Senators. While the Republican Leader is holding meaningless press conferences, his members are reaching out to me, and other members as I've just indicated. They're coming forward with thoughtful ideas to try to move the process forward. I welcome their ideas, and ask all members to continue these discussions. America is watching us, and they're demanding a result that's balanced. I say to my friend, and he is my friend, the Republican Leader - I'll come to his office, I will go to the White House with him, I will do anything that I can do to try to move this process forward. As respectfully as I can to my friend, the senior Senator from Kentucky, the process has not been moved forward during this day.
McConnell is an ass. Reid is working with non-ranking Republicans to get a deal done.
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austin_blue Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:54:12pm |
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Obdicut Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:55:59pm |
re: #49 darthstar
I'm sorry...darth's not home right now. Please leave your death-threat after the beep.
I'm going to kill you by letting time progress forwards until you eventually die.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:56:48pm |
re: #54 austin_blue
No fatalities!
(Lucky...)
Yeah. Looks like the fuselage split just in time. Or that they're lucky it didn't break loose earlier and break away.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:57:40pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
I'm going to kill you by letting time progress forwards until you eventually die.
Sounds like something they would do to Batman. The original series.
//
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:59:39pm |
re: #52 Gus 802
Boy George? George Michael? George Harrison? George Clinton? George Clooney? Curious George?
The ugliest George in Music. Thorogood.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:00:32pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
I'm going to kill you by letting time progress forwards until you eventually die.
Whoa there bud! Watch the death threats!!!
//
I think that might actually work...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:01:08pm |
re: #58 Gus 802
Will TIME be the end of Batman?!?
Tune in next week...
Same Bat time, same Bat... well, you know...
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:01:33pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
I'm going to kill you by letting time progress forwards until you eventually die.
You entropist MONSTER!
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Spocomptonite Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:02:13pm |
re: #55 Obdicut
I'm going to kill you by letting time progress forwards until you eventually die.
The beauty of that is, even if you die first, you can still get them from the grave and have the last laugh.
/
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:03:09pm |
re: #63 000G
You entropist MONSTER!
The Nihilist Ray Gun™ is my secret weapon!
One shot will kill a man with nihilism!
Bwahahahaha!
//
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:05:11pm |
re: #53 darthstar
Harry Reid rips the turtle a new asshole:
McConnell is an ass. Reid is working with non-ranking Republicans to get a deal done.
I think Boehner may have had good intentions but he just can't control his party. I do feel kinda bad for him.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:05:13pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
The Nihilist Ray Gun™ is my secret weapon!
One shot will kill a man with nihilism!
Bwahahahaha!
//
The Dude: [looks at man lazing in the pool] Are you sure he won't mind?
Bunny Lebowski: Uli doesn't care about anything. He's a Nihilist.
The Dude: Ah, that must be exhausting.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:05:13pm |
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Obdicut Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:06:14pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
That reminds me of a Hipster Hitler
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:06:23pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:08:31pm |
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austin_blue Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:09:24pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
Yeah. Looks like the fuselage split just in time. Or that they're lucky it didn't break loose earlier and break away.
737-800, relatively new. Hate to see a perfectly good airplane a hull loss like that. Fodded the shit out of those CFM-56's too, dontcha know.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:09:55pm |
re: #70 rwdflynavy
I'm just 22 and I don't mind dyin.
Do you have a cobra necktie and a rattlesnake whip?
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:10:16pm |
re: #72 austin_blue
737-800, relatively new. Hate to see a perfectly good airplane a hull loss like that. Fodded the shit out of those CFM-56's too, dontcha know.
Yep. It's just parts now.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:10:45pm |
lightning and rain up in the heights, headed my way...I'm going to get a wet ass again
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austin_blue Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:11:26pm |
re: #75 albusteve
lightning and rain up in the heights, headed my way...I'm going to get a wet ass again
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:11:31pm |
re: #75 albusteve
lightning and rain up in the heights, headed my way...I'm going to get a wet ass again
You should try living in a house.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:12:57pm |
re: #77 Naso Tang
You should try living in a house.
when it rains out here, sane people immediately go out in it...ride a bike, walk the dogs, whatever....get wet
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austin_blue Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:13:55pm |
She Who Must Be Obeyed is gigging at Maria's Taco Express with the Bouldin Bobcats tonight. See yuz later, Lizardi.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:14:05pm |
re: #75 albusteve
lightning and rain up in the heights, headed my way...I'm going to get a wet ass again
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:16:29pm |
re: #75 albusteve
lightning and rain up in the heights, headed my way...I'm going to get a wet ass again
Then buy the poor thing a stable.
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recusancy Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:16:50pm |
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:18:00pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:18:29pm |
Ah, an open thread.
I just got home from indulging in my gun geek side. First I went to a gun show out in the countryside to sell a few things off and then went back to my FLGS and paid off an old (1958) Colt Model 357. This was the model that preceded the famous Python and is same internally but it is much less well known and hence much cheaper for similar quality. This one has much bluing loss and Pachmayr grips so it goes for even less as a result. But mechanically it is still as good as when it left New Haven. 48 hour waiting period then off to the range :D It also makes me all the more eagerly await hunting season.
Hope everyone else is having a pleasant weekend.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:19:19pm |
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
I'm crushed
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:19:39pm |
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
That really goes on the previous thread. Not that it doesn't go in an open thread, but it would have lots of company back there.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:20:14pm |
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
"Yeah! Those atheists are so filled with hate! I hate them! I hate them so much, I want to start killing them!"
///
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:21:22pm |
re: #88 wrenchwench
That really goes on the previous thread. Not that it doesn't go in an open thread, but it would have lots of company back there.
it really belongs in a garbage can
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:21:34pm |
re: #89 Dante41
"Yeah! Those atheists are so filled with hate! I hate them! I hate them so much, I want to start killing them!"
///
Oh come on. Why do you react with such sarcasm? Are you angry? Angry? Angry atheist? Hey, why are atheists always angry, just like libs?
/
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:23:04pm |
re: #26 darthstar
Managed to get two dogs, two bikes, and all my gear into the Smart...
Image: 254698_10150276866928024_669978023_7636660_2971185 _n.jpg
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Does that dog have its drivers license?
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:23:20pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:24:01pm |
re: #93 wrenchwench
That's not nice.
Well, everybody's perspective is shaped by their surroundings, so...
///
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:24:33pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:25:11pm |
Said Breivik, little less than 3 years ago, at Gates of Vienna:
Fjordman: “I have called for a global infidel strategy of containment of the Islamic world as far as possible, which includes banning Muslim immigration.”
What about the 5-10-15-20% of Muslims that are already inside the country? Although delayed, they will eventually reach 50%+ even in hostile climates (Closed borders/anti-immigration laws/anti Sharia laws) due to a combination of high birthrates and a progressive emigration of natives (see Kosovo/Lebanon demographic development). In other words, anti-immigration laws/closed borders will only delay a Muslim takeover at best. Even in areas with a poor living standards/weak economies (like Kosovo was) they will outbreed non-muslims. It will only take them a few more decades.
So again, how exactly would banning Muslim immigration + containing the Muslim world save us in the long term?
[…]
Why havent you or any of the other current authors on the Eurabia related issues/Islamisation of Europe (Fjordman, Spencer, Ye`or, Bostom etc.) brought up the “D” word? I assume because it is considered a fascist method in nature, which would undermine your/their work? Why would it undermine their efforts when it is the only rational conclusion, based on the above argument? As far as I know, it’s not illegal in Europe to suggest deportation as a future method when discussing future hypothetical World Orders (correct me if im wrong though, Im not 100% sure, lol)!?
Said elsewhere just a few days ago:
Unlike Gates of Vienna, the admins of 1389 Blog have reached the conclusion that deportation will, at some point, be necessary to avert this outcome. That said, neither 1389 Blog nor its admins condone the initiation of violence to influence public policy with regard to the Muslim presence in non-Muslim countries, or for any other reason.
ew.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:25:13pm |
re: #93 wrenchwench
That's not nice.
and posting shit where people want to kill me is what exactly?...you could fill 20 blogs with that crap
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:25:56pm |
re: #47 wrenchwench
I've been turned into a feminist. I think "feminist douche" is a phrase that cannot be used.
I have to post once more on that thread, to thank allegro for the link.
I never got the opportunity to post on that thread. :(
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:26:09pm |
re: #96 000G
May I at least call them Stalinists? //
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:26:20pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:26:52pm |
re: #98 b_sharp
I never got the opportunity to post on that thread. :(
It's still there...hasn't been closed.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:27:12pm |
Taking a break & checking in. I'm moving, and as always, it sucks.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:27:41pm |
re: #97 albusteve
and posting shit where people want to kill me is what exactly?...you could fill 20 blogs with that crap
You could take it as a heads-up.
Or you could scroll.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:28:14pm |
re: #99 Sergey Romanov
May I at least call them Stalinists? //
Be my guest, especially since Breivik went on to approvingly cite cases of Stalinist deportations of ethnic groups within the Soviet Union.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:28:14pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:28:43pm |
One of the best pieces by Glass, AFAIC.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:30:06pm |
re: #104 000G
Be my guest, especially since Breivik went on to approvingly cite cases of Stalinist deportations of ethnic groups within the Soviet Union.
I remember around 2006 or so a conservative blogger Vox Day was advocating deporting illegal immigrants from the US and as a measure of feasibility used the Nazi deportation of 6 million Jews (he thought all 6 million were deported before killing). Ouch.
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recusancy Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:30:27pm |
re: #97 albusteve
and posting shit where people want to kill me is what exactly?...you could fill 20 blogs with that crap
Ah. I guess we can only post things from people who want to kill us if they're a Jihadist.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:30:47pm |
re: #80 albusteve
when it rains out here, sane people immediately go out in it...ride a bike, walk the dogs, whatever...get wet
It was the "getting your ass wet" that invoked images. Still does.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:31:40pm |
re: #104 000G
Be my guest, especially since Breivik went on to approvingly cite cases of Stalinist deportations of ethnic groups within the Soviet Union.
So...he hates Socialists for being all multicultural and oppressing the rights of the people...except for when he is admiring them oppressing the rights of the people.
Makes perfect sense. ///
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:32:13pm |
re: #108 recusancy
Ah. I guess we can only post things from people who want to kill us if they're a Jihadist.
post whatever you want....so will I
Floyd
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:32:55pm |
re: #110 Dante41
So...he hates Socialists for being all multicultural and oppressing the rights of the people...except for when he is admiring them oppressing the rights of the people.
Makes perfect sense. ///
I think like Vox Day he was citing examples showing that it is feasible to remove groups of people.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:34:36pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:34:44pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:35:12pm |
re: #107 Sergey Romanov
I remember around 2006 or so a conservative blogger Vox Day was advocating deporting illegal immigrants from the US and as a measure of feasibility used the Nazi deportation of 6 million Jews (he thought all 6 million were deported before killing). Ouch.
Vox Day, is, was and always will be an ass.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:35:40pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:36:49pm |
I was called the "N" word for the first time today (not Nazi). Black guy looked at me (I was at his house for an appointment) and he responded to something I said with "N-word please".
Made me very happy that I had connected with him.
Didn't sell shit to his broke ass.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:38:19pm |
re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was called the "N" word for the first time today (not Nazi). Black guy looked at me (I was at his house for an appointment) and he responded to something I said with "N-word please".
Made me very happy that I had connected with him.
Didn't sell shit to his broke ass.
Did that word end with A or ER? Just curious if the dialect differs from Florida.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:38:30pm |
re: #114 albusteve
How's the new leg working out. Getting used to it?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:40:09pm |
re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was called the "N" word for the first time today (not Nazi). Black guy looked at me (I was at his house for an appointment) and he responded to something I said with "N-word please".
Made me very happy that I had connected with him.
Didn't sell shit to his broke ass.
As much of a white bread boy as you are that is impressive!
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:40:10pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
How's the new leg working out. Getting used to it?
don't have it yet Aug 12th...I tried a mock up for about 20min...it was hard, painful and very clumsy...I've got it to do
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:40:37pm |
Had an interesting 1/2 hour last night. We had a thunderstorm where the wind got up to 115km and the rain was so thick I couldn't see the trees 15m in front of the house.
The wind lifted our patio furniture off the ground and smacked them into the planter hard enough to smash the tempered glass table top.
I should have been filming.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:41:52pm |
re: #122 rwdflynavy
Only guy I know whiter than me? He's typing on your keyboard.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:42:15pm |
re: #124 b_sharp
Had an interesting 1/2 hour last night. We had a thunderstorm where the wind got up to 115km and the rain was so thick I couldn't see the trees 15m in front of the house.
The wind lifted our patio furniture off the ground and smacked them into the planter hard enough to smash the tempered glass table top.
I should have been filming.
km and m? What are you Canadian?
//
Glad you are OK!
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:42:17pm |
re: #124 b_sharp
Had an interesting 1/2 hour last night. We had a thunderstorm where the wind got up to 115km and the rain was so thick I couldn't see the trees 15m in front of the house.
The wind lifted our patio furniture off the ground and smacked them into the planter hard enough to smash the tempered glass table top.
I should have been filming.
Wow.
We had a light breeze, a light rain, and a double rainbow.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:42:58pm |
re: #123 albusteve
don't have it yet Aug 12th...I tried a mock up for about 20min...it was hard, painful and very clumsy...I've got it to do
Is the laser still a go?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:43:16pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:43:31pm |
re: #127 wrenchwench
Wow.
We had a light breeze, a light rain, and a double rainbow.
2 Unicorns is a good sign! /
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:43:39pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:44:16pm |
re: #110 Dante41
So...he hates Socialists for being all multicultural and oppressing the rights of the people...except for when he is admiring them oppressing the rights of the people.
Makes perfect sense. ///
He admires power.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:44:30pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:44:37pm |
re: #107 Sergey Romanov
I remember around 2006 or so a conservative blogger Vox Day was advocating deporting illegal immigrants from the US and as a measure of feasibility used the Nazi deportation of 6 million Jews (he thought all 6 million were deported before killing). Ouch.
I remember that freak. Called himself a "Christian Libertarian", but really meant "Gary North Lewrockwell.com Clone".
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:44:43pm |
re: #126 rwdflynavy
km and m? What are you Canadian?
//Glad you are OK!
Why yes, yes I am.
Thanks. I stayed inside and watched lightening so bright all the street lights turned off.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:45:52pm |
re: #119 Naso Tang
Did that word end with A or ER? Just curious if the dialect differs from Florida.
Unlikely that it would be "er". I have never heard anyone from anywhere say "n-er please."
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:46:19pm |
re: #127 wrenchwench
Wow.
We had a light breeze, a light rain, and a double rainbow.
For some reason we've been getting more severe storms than usual the last few years.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:46:35pm |
Cowboys and Aliens.
Loved it.
Don't expect Citizen Kane. But, I loved it.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:46:57pm |
re: #133 albusteve
huh?...five vids at once?...why not 10?
Then I couldn't have done it with just one hand.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:47:35pm |
re: #110 Dante41
So...he hates Socialists for being all multicultural and oppressing the rights of the people...except for when he is admiring them oppressing the rights of the people.
Makes perfect sense. ///
A totalitarian by any other name...
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:48:35pm |
re: #131 albusteve
swapped it for a turbo charger
Good idea. Now you should be able to leave Steve Austin in the dust.
Maybe a ~10 sec 1/4 mile.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:48:39pm |
re: #137 b_sharp
For some reason we've been getting more severe storms than usual the last few years.
Al Gore and his terrible, horrible weather machine.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:48:49pm |
re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cowboys and Aliens.
Loved it.
Don't expect Citizen Kane. But, I loved it.
I noticed something about that. USA Today's main complaint was "It is nothing but cliches! Nothing original!", but when I came home to Houston, the Chronicle said "It uses every cliche in the book, and that is part of its charm."
I am much more inclined to believe the latter than the former.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:48:53pm |
re: #137 b_sharp
For some reason we've been getting more severe storms than usual the last few years.
We had severe winds and heat all spring and into the summer, but since the rains started a couple of weeks ago, no complaints.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:49:08pm |
re: #136 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Unlikely that it would be "er". I have never heard anyone from anywhere say "n-er please."
Rap does it, and I've overheard drug dealers say it, but written it's with A.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:50:14pm |
re: #142 b_sharp
Good idea. Now you should be able to leave Steve Austin in the dust.
Maybe a ~10 sec 1/4 mile.
heh...time will tell, I can barely stand up, it's not quite as easy as it seems
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:50:28pm |
re: #137 b_sharp
For some reason we've been getting more severe storms than usual the last few years.
Weird.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:50:42pm |
re: #86 wlewisiii
Ah, an open thread.
I just got home from indulging in my gun geek side. First I went to a gun show out in the countryside to sell a few things off and then went back to my FLGS and paid off an old (1958) Colt Model 357. This was the model that preceded the famous Python and is same internally but it is much less well known and hence much cheaper for similar quality. This one has much bluing loss and Pachmayr grips so it goes for even less as a result. But mechanically it is still as good as when it left New Haven. 48 hour waiting period then off to the range :D It also makes me all the more eagerly await hunting season.
Hope everyone else is having a pleasant weekend.
Lovely stuff. Hope you enjoy it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:50:54pm |
re: #144 Dante41
Such a fun ride.
I'm not gay (NTTATWTT), but Daniel Craig? Wow!
Well, Olivia Wilde is cute too.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:51:09pm |
Sheesh. Rain actually fell over a small part of Lubbock last night (though not at my place) and the chances for tonight are 30%. If it doesn't rain by midnight tomorrow, this will be the second consecutive month with no measurable rainfall. The high today has been 94, the lowest in several weeks. We have long since set a new record for days over 100. The old record was 29. We are currently at 40 with two more months of hot weather to go, so we will almost certainly double the old record. Indeed, we can probably count October as a month for potential 100+ days now. It has been 100 in October just once here, on October 3rd 2000, but I would look for this unfortunate record to fall as well. Do I hear November? The all time high for November was 90 on November 9th, 2006, so it may not be unthinkable in this new era of hothouse climate. On the other side of the solstice, March may be an even more likely candidate since it has actually gotten well into the 90s during that month, with an all-time high of 95 on March 11, 1989.
Lubbock weather records
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:51:32pm |
I'm ROTFL here.
[Link: hipsterhitler.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:52:04pm |
re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I remember that freak. Called himself a "Christian Libertarian", but really meant "Gary North Lewrockwell.com Clone".
He writes for Weird Nut Daily. Enough said.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:53:55pm |
re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love big storms.
I probably would but I seem to be living on a different planet now. I would say Venus but there are no clouds most of the time.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:54:04pm |
re: #146 Naso Tang
Rap does it, and I've overheard drug dealers say it, but written it's with A.
They're two different words. People hear "a" and want to correct it to "er", but they are two different words.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:54:52pm |
re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Such a fun ride.
I'm not gay (NTTATWTT), but Daniel Craig? Wow!
Well, Olivia Wilde is cute too.
Is it worth seeing in the theater?
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:55:18pm |
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel
Only two days to go, and you can all pray for more in Texas. I hear it worked for Georgia a couple of years ago.
Buy a couple of lottery tickets too. You never know.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:55:38pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
He writes for Weird Nut Daily. Enough said.
Yeah, he is really out there. IIRC, he also wrote for or at (or something) english.pravda.ru
F'n weirdo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:56:09pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
Absolutely. Got some big things in it that look ... uh ... bigger on a bigger screen.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:57:04pm |
re: #156 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
They're two different words. People hear "a" and want to correct it to "er", but they are two different words.
They are the same word, but who wants this argument?
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:57:06pm |
re: #158 Naso Tang
Only two days to go, and you can all pray for more in Texas. I hear it worked for Georgia a couple of years ago.
Buy a couple of lottery tickets too. You never know.
We could sacrifice a virgin or something, but, well, this is Texas and all.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:57:13pm |
re: #144 Dante41
I noticed something about that. USA Today's main complaint was "It is nothing but cliches! Nothing original!", but when I came home to Houston, the Chronicle said "It uses every cliche in the book, and that is part of its charm."
I am much more inclined to believe the latter than the former.
Unpretentious regular folks find cliches charming.
Snobby movie critics do not.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:57:33pm |
re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Absolutely. Got some big things in it that look ... uh ... bigger on a bigger screen.
I liked him with Eva Green in Casino Royale.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:57:35pm |
re: #159 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah, he is really out there. IIRC, he also wrote for or at (or something) english.pravda.ru
F'n weirdo.
Honestly, I've always thought of him as a skinhead type, with his weird haircut and racialism.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:58:10pm |
re: #162 Shiplord Kirel
We could sacrifice a virgin or something, but, well, this is Texas and all.
You could convert to FLDS.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:58:45pm |
re: #162 Shiplord Kirel
We could sacrifice a virgin or something, but, well, this is Texas and all.
We could sacrifice an oil rig that has never been used...
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:59:54pm |
The only response the ditto-heads and TPers have to the climate catastrophe is "Well, we had dry spells before and it gets hot here every summer."
If we had a firestorm and a rain of frogs, I swear these fools would shrug it off with, "Well, we had frogs before and there's fires every summer."
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:59:58pm |
re: #86 wlewisiii
Ah, an open thread.
I just got home from indulging in my gun geek side. First I went to a gun show out in the countryside to sell a few things off and then went back to my FLGS and paid off an old (1958) Colt Model 357. This was the model that preceded the famous Python and is same internally but it is much less well known and hence much cheaper for similar quality. This one has much bluing loss and Pachmayr grips so it goes for even less as a result. But mechanically it is still as good as when it left New Haven. 48 hour waiting period then off to the range :D It also makes me all the more eagerly await hunting season.
Hope everyone else is having a pleasant weekend.
Nice. I got another CMP M1 Garand today, special grade, not period correct of course but it's otherwise in minty perfect condition and thus a shooter. Also took possession of that Erfurt Luger I mentioned a while ago. There's also an IBM Carbine at one of the local shops that's been tempting me, but I've been buying too much lately and already have an Inland.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 4:59:59pm |
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Honestly, I've always thought of him as a skinhead type, with his weird haircut and racialism.
Same here.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:00:12pm |
re: #156 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
They're two different words. People hear "a" and want to correct it to "er", but they are two different words.
I never knew that.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:00:55pm |
re: #163 reine.de.tout
Unpretentious regular folks find cliches charming.
Snobby movie critics do not.
I think the critic at the Chronicle understood that it was going to be a cliche-fest from the beginning, like Snakes on a Plane. I mean, the freakin' title is Cowboys and Aliens. Whereas, the USA Today critic was expecting a breakthrough in the action genre.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:01:08pm |
re: #162 Shiplord Kirel
We could sacrifice a virgin or something, but, well, this is Texas and all.
No virgins?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:01:46pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:02:26pm |
re: #172 Dante41
I think the critic at the Chronicle understood that it was going to be a cliche-fest from the beginning, like Snakes on a Plane. I mean, the freakin' title is Cowboys and Aliens. Whereas, the USA Today critic was expecting a breakthrough in the action genre.
LOL!
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:03:31pm |
re: #173 b_sharp
No virgins?
I think there's a law that requires human sacrifices to be of legal age.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:03:56pm |
Since there's movie talk going on: I posted this last night and got gazed. I still think it looks really good.....
Tucker And Dale Vs Evil - Official Redband Trailer
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:04:21pm |
re: #171 b_sharp
I never knew that.
Y, 2 diff words, sound different, used differently, written/rendered differently. Generally, never used in mixed company. -er is almost never used except when quoting someone or making fun of a bigot.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:04:46pm |
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
Nice. I got another CMP M1 Garand today, special grade, not period correct of course but it's otherwise in minty perfect condition and thus a shooter. Also took possession of that Erfurt Luger I mentioned a while ago. There's also an IBM Carbine at one of the local shops that's been tempting me, but I've been buying too much lately and already have an Inland.
Now you're talking! A Garand, a carbine and a Lugar. Bring the grill, some soda and beer, and the meat to cook, and you've got a party!
Did you hear that?!1 The Looozard GDF just said he owns a Lugar!!1 He's got a Nazi gun, which means that Chuck is blaming Pam Geller to cover up the fact that he has NAZIS POSTING ON HIS BLOG!!!11
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:05:16pm |
re: #175 reine.de.tout
LOL!
Seriously. Here's the review so you can enjoy it in its full glory. Your text to link...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:05:19pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:05:37pm |
re: #176 b_sharp
He has dickhead and prick written all over him.
I know...what is it with these guys, so supposedly superior yet soooooo unhappy.
Poor things.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:05:37pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
Now you're talking! A Garand, a carbine and a Lugar. Bring the grill, some soda and beer, and the meat to cook, and you've got a party!
OMG!!11 They are Stockpiling!!!!
//
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:05:42pm |
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
Nice. I got another CMP M1 Garand today, special grade, not period correct of course but it's otherwise in minty perfect condition and thus a shooter. Also took possession of that Erfurt Luger I mentioned a while ago. There's also an IBM Carbine at one of the local shops that's been tempting me, but I've been buying too much lately and already have an Inland.
Oh, that's a drool maker. I'd love to afford one but between the Colt and my recent Stoeger Uplander Supreme, my toy budget is pretty much tapped. I'll admit, I'm much more likely to go for a Carbine than a Garand, just because I've always had a weak spot for the first US assault rifle. ;)
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:06:20pm |
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
Nice. I got another CMP M1 Garand today, special grade, not period correct of course but it's otherwise in minty perfect condition and thus a shooter. Also took possession of that Erfurt Luger I mentioned a while ago. There's also an IBM Carbine at one of the local shops that's been tempting me, but I've been buying too much lately and already have an Inland.
How much did the CMP get for the Garand? Got a friend near Anniston.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:08:01pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:08:03pm |
And duplicitous RS McCain now kicks EDL:
If this is true, don’t you kind of wonder if the EDL members who were buddies with the Norwegian terrorist were some of the same neo-Nazi types Geller was warning about?
*barf*
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:08:39pm |
re: #180 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Y, 2 diff words, sound different, used differently, written/rendered differently. Generally, never used in mixed company. -er is almost never used except when quoting someone or making fun of a bigot.
Right wing bigots complain that blacks can use the word with impunity but they get called racist when they use it, then they end up calling blacks who use it racist.
Personally I think some people have trouble understanding concepts even marginally dissimilar to their own.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:08:58pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:09:26pm |
re: #182 Dante41
Seriously. Here's the review so you can enjoy it in its full glory. Your text to link...
hehe.
He did think it would break new ground -
no new ground is broken in this Western/sci-fi hybrid.
I suspect I would like anything that had Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford in it.
This one's on my list.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:09:46pm |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
The Luger's stamped 1918, all matching parts. While it's theoretically possible that it saw action in WWII it has no Nazi era proof marks.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:11:00pm |
Time for a little Led Zeppelin. I find listening to You Tube videos on headphones while my wife watches "Say Yes to the Dress" is a lot easier on my blood pressure than watching it with her...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:11:04pm |
re: #189 Sergey Romanov
And duplicitous RS McCain now kicks EDL:
*barf*
This song seems to sum up RS McCain's deceit:
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:11:18pm |
re: #190 b_sharp
Right wing bigots complain that blacks can use the word with impunity but they get called racist when they use it, then they end up calling blacks who use it racist.
Personally I think some people have trouble understanding concepts even marginally dissimilar to their own.
Well, they're just illiterate in Black dialects, and think they are something to be corrected.
I don't even entertain that complaint. They just want to call us -ers and not get their block knocked off afterwards. Supremacy issues.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:12:41pm |
re: #187 Decatur Deb
How much did the CMP get for the Garand? Got a friend near Anniston.
$995. I already have a period correct grade M1D but wanted something I wouldn't devalue shooting.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:12:49pm |
re: #192 reine.de.tout
hehe.
He did think it would break new ground -I suspect I would like anything that had Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford in it.
This one's on my list.
Here is the Chronicle's review for comparison: Your text to link...
Huh...I thought the Chron still used the four-star grading method. I wonder when they moved to five?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:12:53pm |
We always were against EDL! Ask the Ministry of Truth!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:13:04pm |
re: #193 goddamnedfrank
The Luger's stamped 1918, all matching parts. While it's theoretically possible that it saw action in WWII it has no Nazi era proof marks.
Even cooler. I just put that /wingnut part to mock the haters who try to shift blame for the Norway massacre onto Charles and away from Pam Geller.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:13:23pm |
re: #184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I know...what is it with these guys, so supposedly superior yet sooo unhappy.
Poor things.
A combination of maladaptive genetics, poor parents and possibly too many smacks on the head.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:13:38pm |
re: #194 rwdflynavy
Time for a little Led Zeppelin. I find listening to You Tube videos on headphones while my wife watches "Say Yes to the Dress" is a lot easier on my blood pressure than watching it with her...
[Video]
Mr. EmmmieG doesn't have to watch my shows, and I don't have to watch black and white WWII movies.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:13:44pm |
re: #193 goddamnedfrank
The Luger's stamped 1918, all matching parts. While it's theoretically possible that it saw action in WWII it has no Nazi era proof marks.
Now you need a WWI issue Colt M1911 to keep it company :)
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:14:19pm |
re: #186 wlewisiii
Oh, that's a drool maker. I'd love to afford one but between the Colt and my recent Stoeger Uplander Supreme, my toy budget is pretty much tapped. I'll admit, I'm much more likely to go for a Carbine than a Garand, just because I've always had a weak spot for the first US assault rifle. ;)
You Americans and your guns.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:14:24pm |
re: #203 wlewisiii
Now you need a WWI issue Colt M1911 to keep it company :)
Personally, I think a Webley service revolver would be more appropriate for that role.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:14:42pm |
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:14:55pm |
Hello Lizard land! I hope all are having a fine weekend. Now it's time for a cold Summerfest beer. Just got done prepping up for tomorrow. Sunday is a big day for me. Shooting first scenes on a short SciFi film project. Been working on the story for a year. Got a writer for dialog, who has talked me into trying some on camera time myself. Complicated shoot too. Inside a vehicle, outside driving by, close ups, and establishment shots. Feels like what I imagine film school immersion is like.
Using a Lensbaby for some shots, wide angle lens for landscape scenes. Lensbaby is a very creative tilt shift optical system. Lets my HDSLR do some of the focus tricks reserved for medium format cameras.
Getting really lucky with the weather for dramatic sky. Big thundercloud sky, the monsoon flow is in town. If I get really fortunate I can get some lightning images or video.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:15:12pm |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:15:49pm |
re: #197 goddamnedfrank
$995. I already have a period correct grade M1D but wanted something I wouldn't devalue shooting.
That's still a bit of paying for 'enthusiast' value. Ruger mini-14s are under 700, though that Norwegian asshole has sort of tarnished the brand.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:15:55pm |
re: #188 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Is it possible she's putting people on?
Every once in a while, I think that about Ann Coulter, but PG is just out there.
Coulter knows which teet gives the most milk.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:16:00pm |
re: #207 Rightwingconspirator
Wow! That's great!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:16:02pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:16:50pm |
re: #207 Rightwingconspirator
What's the plot? ;)
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:16:56pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:17:17pm |
re: #179 Killgore Trout
Since there's movie talk going on: I posted this last night and got gazed. I still think it looks really good...
Tucker And Dale Vs Evil - Official Redband Trailer[Video]
The trailer is funny, but I don't know if I could handle a whole movie of that.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:17:27pm |
re: #206 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
"Please.
What else is on."Rotfl!
Thanks. The whole song just seems perfect for calling "Bullshit!" on someone in full spin mode like RSM.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:17:33pm |
re: #198 Dante41
Here is the Chronicle's review for comparison: Your text to link...
Huh...I thought the Chron still used the four-star grading method. I wonder when they moved to five?
THAT is an excellent review, not just because they liked the movie, but because the reviewer seems to understand the reason for the movie to begin with, and what it is that will amuse us.
The movie combines cowboys with science fiction only for the sake of doing it, for the fun of it.
Yes, just for the sheer fun of it. I like movies to entertain me (not lecture me), and this sounds like it will do just that.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:19:25pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:20:03pm |
re: #196 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well, they're just illiterate in Black dialects, and think they are something to be corrected.
I don't even entertain that complaint. They just want to call us -ers and not get their block knocked off afterwards. Supremacy issues.
Here the issue is the words 'Native Pride' on hats worn by aboriginals. The rightards want to be able to wear caps with the words 'White Pride' because 'Native Pride' is racist.
O_o
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:20:11pm |
re: #208 Varek Raith
Swords >>> Guns.
:)
Not everyone has the midiclorian count needed to learn to block incoming gunfire with their lightsaber, Varek.
As a World Wars aside, the weapon Harrison Ford carried as Han Solo's heavy blaster pistol was a Mauser C.96 'Broomhandle' with cosmetic alterations.
/Stay on Target!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:21:48pm |
re: #219 b_sharp
Here the issue is the words 'Native Pride' on hats worn by aboriginals. The rightards want to be able to wear caps with the words 'White Pride' because 'Native Pride' is racist.
O_o
Race-butthurts.
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:22:23pm |
re: #219 b_sharp
Here the issue is the words 'Native Pride' on hats worn by aboriginals. The rightards want to be able to wear caps with the words 'White Pride' because 'Native Pride' is racist.
O_o
Yes, because the culture of the White Australians has been oppressed for centuries, just like the culture of the White American!
///
/apologies if you are actually a New Zealander
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:23:34pm |
re: #219 b_sharp
Here the issue is the words 'Native Pride' on hats worn by aboriginals. The rightards want to be able to wear caps with the words 'White Pride' because 'Native Pride' is racist.
O_o
In what circumstances are they prohibited from wearing 'white pride'? Or do you mean they want to wear 'WP' without looking like racist dimwits to the rest of us?
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:23:36pm |
re: #207 Rightwingconspirator
Hello Lizard land! I hope all are having a fine weekend. Now it's time for a cold Summerfest beer. Just got done prepping up for tomorrow. Sunday is a big day for me. Shooting first scenes on a short SciFi film project. Been working on the story for a year. Got a writer for dialog, who has talked me into trying some on camera time myself. Complicated shoot too. Inside a vehicle, outside driving by, close ups, and establishment shots. Feels like what I imagine film school immersion is like.
Using a Lensbaby for some shots, wide angle lens for landscape scenes. Lensbaby is a very creative tilt shift optical system. Lets my HDSLR do some of the focus tricks reserved for medium format cameras.Getting really lucky with the weather for dramatic sky. Big thundercloud sky, the monsoon flow is in town. If I get really fortunate I can get some lightning images or video.
Do we get to be your test group?
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ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:23:41pm |
re: #212 rwdflynavy
Don't bring a sword to a gunfight!
Sometimes it works. You can stab the guy with the gun while he's busy laughing at you.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:23:56pm |
re: #222 Dante41
Yes, because the culture of the White Australians has been oppressed for centuries, just like the culture of the White American!
///
/apologies if you are actually a New Zealander
I went to grad school with a New Zealander. Her name was Pippa. So I was reminded of her quite a bit, what with the royal wedding.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:24:07pm |
re: #115 wrenchwench
Again?
Yep. Housemate. (enough said) I have my own awesome place coming up. But not till 9/15. So I'm temporary @ another (nicer housemate hopefully) house. 1.5 mos. Crazy, but I just dropped off 3 freaking bags of clothes at woman's shelter. The benefit is im getting rid of luggage. I'm whining, but I'll survive.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:25:49pm |
Sorry, I realized I'm ages behind on this thread!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:25:57pm |
re: #225 ArchangelMichael
Sometimes it works. You can stab the guy with the gun while he's busy laughing at you.
I'm not afraid of insects taking over the world, and you know why? It would take about a million ants just to aim a gun at me, let alone fire it. And you know what I'm doing while they're aiming it at me? I just sort of slip off to the side, and then suddenly run up and kick the gun out of their hands.
Jack Handy
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:26:17pm |
re: #227 Stanley Sea
Yep. Housemate. (enough said) I have my own awesome place coming up. But not till 9/15. So I'm temporary @ another (nicer housemate hopefully) house. 1.5 mos. Crazy, but I just dropped off 3 freaking bags of clothes at woman's shelter. The benefit is im getting rid of luggage. I'm whining, but I'll survive.
Moving sucks. Moving, moving again, and then moving again really sucks. But it's worth it for a place of your own.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:27:05pm |
re: #213 Sergey Romanov
Well no spoilers, but imagine if lightning was alive. Part of a fictional electrical eco-sphere that abounds in the earths core and magnetic fields. What might they think of the life on the ground? Lots of up to the minute lightning science, AGW, and (hopefully) a good story of man and lightning getting a very brief but close look at each other. Oh and beautiful mountain landscapes for the setting.
The time lapse clouds music video I did not long ago was all really test footage for this short. It's in 1080 HD.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:27:55pm |
re: #229 Stanley Sea
Sorry, I realized I'm ages behind on this thread!
SFZ proves that you don't have to apologize for that.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:28:01pm |
re: #228 b_sharp
Don't bring a gun to a tank fight.
Well, if you bring a 125mm towed AT gun you can do some good.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:28:03pm |
re: #222 Dante41
Yes, because the culture of the White Australians has been oppressed for centuries, just like the culture of the White American!
///
/apologies if you are actually a New Zealander
Canadian.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:29:17pm |
re: #223 Decatur Deb
In what circumstances are they prohibited from wearing 'white pride'? Or do you mean they want to wear 'WP' without looking like racist dimwits to the rest of us?
They have their feelings hurt when the say or do something racist and get called on it. They want the rest of us to stop being so mean.
Poor buggers.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:29:23pm |
re: #228 b_sharp
Don't bring a gun to a tank fight.
Aren't you cute with your tank at a TOW Missile fight.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:30:14pm |
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:30:14pm |
re: #224 b_sharp
Do we get to be your test group?
I'll certainly post the teaser trailer when it's done. Then it gets shopped around town to see if I can score some better talent for voiceovers or some money for better production. Then we'll see what LA Film festival rules are as to where a short can be published before submission.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:30:35pm |
re: #161 Naso Tang
They are the same word, but who wants this argument?
No, they are not the same word, they're two different words, different meanings, different spellings, different usage.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:31:02pm |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:31:12pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:31:18pm |
re: #239 Rightwingconspirator
I'll certainly post the teaser trailer when it's done. Then it gets shopped around town to see if I can score some better talent for voiceovers or some money for better production. Then we'll see what LA Film festival rules are as to where a short can be published before submission.
Getting all Hollywood on us?!?!
/
Good luck!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:31:28pm |
re: #237 rwdflynavy
Aren't you cute with your tank at a TOW Missile fight.
I am cute, and I've got my active anti-missile system up and running, so your TOW can suck it! :D
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:32:05pm |
re: #244 Dark_Falcon
I am cute, and I've got my active anti-missile system up and running, so your TOW can suck it! :D
Bringing that to the HARM fight huh?
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:32:08pm |
re: #235 b_sharp
Canadian.
....wow, I wasn't even in the right hemisphere, latitudinal or longitudinal.
That's downright embarrassing.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:33:49pm |
re: #233 wrenchwench
SFZ proves that you don't have to apologize for that.
Hey, and this is my break!
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:34:01pm |
re: #244 Dark_Falcon
I am cute, and I've got my active anti-missile system up and running, so your TOW can suck it! :D
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:35:01pm |
re: #248 wrenchwench
Hmm. It seems like a case of overkill. /
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:35:58pm |
re: #245 rwdflynavy
Bringing that to the HARM fight huh?
Excuse me, but where do you want me to drop these 40 km comets?
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:36:05pm |
re: #249 PhillyPretzel
Hmm. It seems like a case of overkill. /
Rule 37 the Mercenary Handbook.
There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "time to reload."
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:36:24pm |
re: #238 Varek Raith
Don't bring a tank to a death star fight.
Don't bring a... oh never mind, there's plenty of room.
Image: galaxyfight.jpg
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:36:49pm |
re: #241 Charles
When Richard Metzger interviewed me for Dangerous Minds, Patrick Adkins showed up in the comments there and posted a death threat to me:
He's the perfect Geller/Spencer follower: Brandishing his gun while making homophobic death threats.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:36:55pm |
re: #241 Charles
When Richard Metzger interviewed me for Dangerous Minds, Patrick Adkins showed up in the comments there and posted a death threat to me:
Evil and stupid are found together so often.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:37:06pm |
re: #246 Dante41
...wow, I wasn't even in the right hemisphere, latitudinal or longitudinal.
That's downright embarrassing.
No worries mate.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:37:31pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:38:25pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:38:45pm |
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Dante41 Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:40:09pm |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
It is. The mount is distinctive.
Nice. I see my indent skills are still good.
/except when it comes to geography
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:40:45pm |
re: #260 Dante41
Nice. I see my indent skills are still good.
/except when it comes to geography
Hey, Australia and Canada are really close!
//
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:41:08pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:42:07pm |
re: #261 rwdflynavy
Hey, Australia and Canada are really close!
//
We even speak the same language, eh.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:42:26pm |
re: #240 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
No, they are not the same word, they're two different words, different meanings, different spellings, different usage.
All you are saying is that, like Fundamentalist, a word has one meaning when used for oneself and another when used for oneself by someone else.
One says "I'm different and screw them" and the other says "you're different and screw you".
I don't respect either one.
Next we can discuss the usage of the word "hoe".
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:42:36pm |
re: #260 Dante41
Nice. I see my indent skills are still good.
/except when it comes to geography
Am MK-17 would do nicely with that.
;)
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:43:29pm |
re: #260 Dante41
Nice. I see my indent skills are still good.
/except when it comes to geography
The wheeled mount is called the Sokolov mount. They were originally furnished with a shield but this was later discarded since it did not provide much protection for the amount it weighed.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:43:59pm |
re: #261 rwdflynavy
Hey, Australia and Canada are really close!
//
Yeah, but, at least every animal/fish/bug in Canada isn't some kind of killing machine.
What's up with you Australia?!?!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:44:07pm |
re: #263 b_sharp
We even speak the same language, eh.
On a related note, the actress that plays Robin on How I Met Your Mother is a cutie.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:46:14pm |
re: #209 Decatur Deb
That's still a bit of paying for 'enthusiast' value. Ruger mini-14s are under 700, though that Norwegian asshole has sort of tarnished the brand.
Yeah, but I wanted a 30-06 with a good bore that was legal for use in as issued CMP matches and could deliver a follow up shot faster than my 1903a3 for hunting medium game. No way was I going to drag the M1D through the woods. Remington .223 just doesn't interest me at all. I've seen people use .30 carbine for javelinas around here but it's just not big enough for mule deer and I don't want any chance of causing a lingering wound to an animal. If I'm going to shoot something for food I want to get the suffering part over with as swiftly as possible.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:49:33pm |
Sheesh! National Day of Prayer Facebook page.
Recently, Governor Perry of Texas announced that he is joining in on the National Day of Prayer. It has ruffeled (sic) many feathers due to a govt. offical (sic) speaking of prayer. I think we should pray daily, constant, and consistant (sic). But wouldn't it be nice if everyone was praying at the same time all across this nation? Think of the power of prayer times millions! Mountains can be moved, our country can get on it's feet, people can get the "Unconditional Love" going on a huge scale....Won't you join us?
As one of my favorite taglines says, "I don't know if faith can move mountains but I've seen what it does for skyscrapers." The problem isn't a public official "speaking of prayer," it's all the bigoted, insane, and unpatriotic types he's invited to participate with him.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:50:43pm |
re: #269 goddamnedfrank
Good for you. There are service matches at my range, and some of those guys are amazing. The glove they use to reduce the pulse beat in your hand is pretty interesting. Then you have the tight jacket to further stiffen the body for precision.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:52:47pm |
re: #264 Naso Tang
All you are saying is that, like Fundamentalist, a word has one meaning when used for oneself and another when used for oneself by someone else.
No.
I am reiterating what you noticed yourself. Two different words. Different usage, different meanings, different spellings.
BTW, don't the word of someone from the actual culture. Forget what you thought you heard in a song or by a drug dealer lol. Get to know some Asian-American kids or Latino kids. They use -a with each other in the same way.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:55:14pm |
re: #264 Naso Tang
One says "I'm different and screw them" and the other says "you're different and screw you".
"My -a" doesn't say that. Neither does -a, please. Both are contextual but you would have to be literate in Black dialects to understand it when said.
Next we can discuss the usage of the word "hoe".
Knock yourself out.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:55:40pm |
re: #269 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, but I wanted a 30-06 with a good bore that was legal for use in as issued CMP matches and could deliver a follow up shot faster than my 1903a3 for hunting medium game. No way was I going to drag the M1D through the woods. Remington .223 just doesn't interest me at all. I've seen people use .30 carbine for javelinas around here but it's just not big enough for mule deer and I don't want any chance of causing a lingering wound to an animal. If I'm going to shoot something for food I want to get the suffering part over with as swiftly as possible.
Been waiting for carbines to show up at Anniston CMP again--they had some a while back that returned from Chile or Argentina.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:57:35pm |
re: #270 Shiplord Kirel
The problem isn't a public official "speaking of prayer," it's all the bigoted, insane, and unpatriotic types he's invited to participate with him.
qft
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:58:23pm |
re: #276 Decatur Deb
Been waiting for carbines to show up at Anniston CMP again--they had some a while back that returned from Chile or Argentina.
Well, The State Department barred the import of a bunch of them from South Korea. Dumb "gun violence" reason given. Just plain stupid if you ask me.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:58:37pm |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 5:59:49pm |
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
Well, The State Department barred the import of a bunch of them from South Korea. Dumb "gun violence" reason given. Just plain stupid if you ask me.
About 50,000 IIRC. That would have dented the market.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:01:10pm |
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
Well, The State Department barred the import of a bunch of them from South Korea. Dumb "gun violence" reason given. Just plain stupid if you ask me.
same wunderkins who dumped all the high powered firearms into Mexico....but that was a minor mix up around here...bunch of dead people, no big deal
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:02:41pm |
re: #270 Shiplord Kirel
Sheesh! National Day of Prayer Facebook page.
As one of my favorite taglines says, "I don't know if faith can move mountains but I've seen what it does for skyscrapers." The problem isn't a public official "speaking of prayer," it's all the bigoted, insane, and unpatriotic types he's invited to participate with him.
There's a difference between a public official speaking of prayer, praying, or attending a prayer event, and organizing one in his public official capacity.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:03:51pm |
re: #282 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a difference between a public official speaking of prayer, praying, or attending a prayer event, and organizing one in his public official capacity.
And this one can hardly be camouflaged as 'non-denominational'.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:04:49pm |
re: #280 Decatur Deb
About 50,000 IIRC. That would have dented the market.
That was total of all guns, I think, including M1 Garands as well as carbines. They could be released over a number of years, though. And even if there are 10s of thousands of them, the reduction in price would also allow more people to take up shooting and the rifles themselves would be great tools for explaining WWII and Korean War history to younger Americans.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:08:50pm |
re: #276 Decatur Deb
Been waiting for carbines to show up at Anniston CMP again--they had some a while back that returned from Chile or Argentina.
Yeah, they're great little guns. Eventually I want to get a Rock-Ola and an IBM, also a paratrooper version if I ever leave California or the assault weapon law gets struck down. Right now the CMP isn't expecting any new shipments and the few they have get auctions off. My real love though is Marlin Golden 39A's, have a full size and recently picked up a 1959 Golden Mountie.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:09:27pm |
re: #274 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
No.
I am reiterating what you noticed yourself. Two different words. Different usage, different meanings, different spellings.
BTW, don't the word of someone from the actual culture. Forget what you thought you heard in a song or by a drug dealer lol. Get to know some Asian-American kids or Latino kids. They use -a with each other in the same way.
You think the songs don't influence the culture? You think the word is only used correctly by nice people and doesn't count when used by bad ones?
Next you will say that wearing pants below the ass doesn't emulate convict(ed) culture.
.. and what is with the lol? You think this stuff is funny? Not A drug dealer, and I wasn't buying. These little shits ruin entire neighborhoods and I have heard them and invited the cops to do the same from my property until they dragged their sorry asses off to jail.
This is not funny and it is not a cultural aspect to admire and defend.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:14:47pm |
re: #282 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a difference between a public official speaking of prayer, praying, or attending a prayer event, and organizing one in his public official capacity.
Don't do Facebook, but here is the webpage quote of Gov Perry's Invitation--
" Fellow Americans,
Right now, America is in crisis: we have been besieged by financial debt, terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters. As a nation, we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles, and ...snip...
Sincerely,
Rick Perry
Governor"
Google cache:
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:15:37pm |
re: #271 Rightwingconspirator
Good for you. There are service matches at my range, and some of those guys are amazing. The glove they use to reduce the pulse beat in your hand is pretty interesting. Then you have the tight jacket to further stiffen the body for precision.
Where do you go, Angeles range? I go to Ojai Valley.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:15:49pm |
re: #286 Naso Tang
You think the songs don't influence the culture? You think the word is only used correctly by nice people and doesn't count when used by bad ones?
Next you will say that wearing pants below the ass doesn't emulate convict(ed) culture.
.. and what is with the lol? You think this stuff is funny? Not A drug dealer, and I wasn't buying. These little shits ruin entire neighborhoods and I have heard them and invited the cops to do the same from my property until they dragged their sorry asses off to jail.
This is not funny and it is not a cultural aspect to admire and defend.
Quite Concur. It is not racist to point out serious cultural problems and how they contribute to crime. In fact it is absolutely needed. Racists sometimes use this fact for cover, but if you listen to people the difference between non-racists and racists is pretty clear.
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laZardo Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:17:02pm |
re: #274 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
For the record, I don't slur in public. Where I...uh...browse, we do not discriminate. ;)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:20:47pm |
re: #286 Naso Tang
You think the songs don't influence the culture? You think the word /blockquote>
Two different words, different usages, different spellings, different pronunciations.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:21:35pm |
re: #288 goddamnedfrank
Angeles. I'm a shareholder and on the B.O.D. there. One of the few 700 yard rifle ranges around. I also shoot at Piru, but that's IDPA for CCW defensive competition or the pure speed shooting Steel Challenge. So I'm a handgun guy, I only own 1 good rifle, a precision configured Remington 700 in .223.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:25:08pm |
re: #286 Naso Tang
This is not funny and it is not a cultural aspect to admire and defend.
Your refusal to understand something as basic as "two different words, not the same thing" has me rotfl.
Get to know some people of the culture; no, a rap song or some drug dealer you overheard does not count as getting to know the culture. Until then, you're not qualified to critique, if that's what you think you're doing.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:26:44pm |
re: #284 Dark_Falcon
That was total of all guns, I think, including M1 Garands as well as carbines. They could be released over a number of years, though. And even if there are 10s of thousands of them, the reduction in price would also allow more people to take up shooting and the rifles themselves would be great tools for explaining WWII and Korean War history to younger Americans.
Problem is that they were shot out trash that CMP said "do not want" to. They would have cost too much to bring up to minimum standards. These were rifles the Koreans actually bought not had loaned to them like the ones from Greece or Denmark. These were used hard and put away wet, repeatedly from what I gather. The Korean Government is still trying to convince State to allow the import but when CMP turned them down, that pretty much killed it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:27:11pm |
re: #290 laZardo
For the record, I don't slur in public. Where I...uh...browse, we do not discriminate. ;)
Well yeah, the words we're talking about aren't mixed-company words. I do think it's hilarious that people outside the, uh, company believe their so-called "critiques" carry any weight, when they're illiterate in the language.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:29:36pm |
re: #295 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well yeah, the words we're talking about aren't mixed-company words. I do think it's hilarious that people outside the, uh, company believe their so-called "critiques" carry any weight, when they're illiterate in the language.
no, the speakers you refer to are illiterate in the language, not the critics....therefore they get their own dialect?...hahaha!....good grief
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:29:55pm |
re: #294 wlewisiii
Problem is that they were shot out trash that CMP said "do not want" to. They would have cost too much to bring up to minimum standards. These were rifles the Koreans actually bought not had loaned to them like the ones from Greece or Denmark. These were used hard and put away wet, repeatedly from what I gather. The Korean Government is still trying to convince State to allow the import but when CMP turned them down, that pretty much killed it.
Still, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I say let the better ones in to start as private sale items.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:30:26pm |
re: #294 wlewisiii
Problem is that they were shot out trash that CMP said "do not want" to. They would have cost too much to bring up to minimum standards. These were rifles the Koreans actually bought not had loaned to them like the ones from Greece or Denmark. These were used hard and put away wet, repeatedly from what I gather. The Korean Government is still trying to convince State to allow the import but when CMP turned them down, that pretty much killed it.
That's what I heard too, that the Korean rifles were completely knackered and would have been parted out at best.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:31:18pm |
re: #292 Rightwingconspirator
Angeles. I'm a shareholder and on the B.O.D. there. One of the few 700 yard rifle ranges around. I also shoot at Piru, but that's IDPA for CCW defensive competition or the pure speed shooting Steel Challenge. So I'm a handgun guy, I only own 1 good rifle, a precision configured Remington 700 in .223.
The long range guys fascinate me, but I've always used a 100 yard range at most. Where I hunt, I'd be hard pressed to get that long a range open anyway.
Still, I'd love a chance to see how well I could get my Marlin XS7 7mm-08 to do at a range that was longer.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:31:43pm |
re: #296 albusteve
no, the speakers you refer to are illiterate in the language,
Lol which speakers? Be specific.
not the critics...therefore they get their own dialect?...hahaha!...good grief
Dialect speakers are not illiterate in their dialect, nor are they illiterate in word usage within their own cultures and subcultures.
You're quite wrong about that.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:32:10pm |
re: #293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Your refusal to understand something as basic as "two different words, not the same thing" has me rotfl.
Get to know some people of the culture; no, a rap song or some drug dealer you overheard does not count as getting to know the culture. Until then, you're not qualified to critique, if that's what you think you're doing.
Did you even hear Naso Tang? He's seen these kids and the damage they cause. So yes, he knows enough to criticize.
Also, this is the second person you've fought with on wording grounds today. you need to knock it off or you're going to wear out your welcome here.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:37:23pm |
re: #301 Dark_Falcon
Did you even hear Naso Tang?
Yep, and I disagree with him. So?
He's seen these kids and the damage they cause. So yes, he knows enough to criticize.
Also, this is the second person you've fought with on wording grounds today. you need to knock it off or you're going to wear out your welcome here.
It's not a fight. Reiterating: learn the culture, learn something about the dialects, learn at least the basics between "-a" and "-er"; Naso Tang recognized this himself which is what even started this conversation.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:38:06pm |
re: #300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol which speakers? Be specific.
Dialect speakers are not illiterate in their dialect, nor are they illiterate in word usage within their own cultures and subcultures.
You're quite wrong about that.
speakers who cannot speak English well enough to be understood....you can pigeonhole them all you want into your prized subcultures....to most people they are appear to be simply people that can't speak English worth a shit....it's far less complicated than you need to make it
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:38:28pm |
re: #301 Dark_Falcon
Did you even hear Naso Tang? He's seen these kids and the damage they cause. So yes, he knows enough to criticize.
Also, this is the second person you've fought with on wording grounds today. you need to knock it off or you're going to wear out your welcome here.
Not to be that guy, but Dark you really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to poking people about "wording grounds" till you get around to explaining what you think "Multiculturalism" is, and why you think its failed.
(Sorry if you've already done that and I've just missed it)
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:38:34pm |
re: #84 recusancy
“These people are scum of the earth. Can we start killing them now? Few groups are filled with more hatred than atheists.” [Link: atheists.org...]
What. The. Fuck. I can't believe what I'm reading. It's almost surreal.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:38:50pm |
re: #299 wlewisiii
The long range guys fascinate me, but I've always used a 100 yard range at most. Where I hunt, I'd be hard pressed to get that long a range open anyway.
Still, I'd love a chance to see how well I could get my Marlin XS7 7mm-08 to do at a range that was longer.
Think of it this way, :-) Practice at 300 will make 100 seem easy. If you'd like to shoot Angeles please feel welcome. We have a great range crew there.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:39:43pm |
re: #293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Your refusal to understand something as basic as "two different words, not the same thing" has me rotfl.
Get to know some people of the culture; no, a rap song or some drug dealer you overheard does not count as getting to know the culture. Until then, you're not qualified to critique, if that's what you think you're doing.
Screw you; I know the reality, you think you know a politically correct excuse for a sorry excuse for a sub culture, and you think it is funny.
I have property in 50% black areas that has been taken over by the types you defend and even when I try to rent to black people they drive by and say they don't like the look of the "A's" that you admire sitting on the sidewalk down the street using the A word in every other sentence. Go roll on the floor all you want in your imaginary neighborhood.
If you think this has nothing to do with rap music and asinine clothing styles, you really live in a fantasy world.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:41:15pm |
re: #305 Gus 802
It does seem like a parody:
Image: photo17.png
Seriously?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:42:15pm |
OMG! These Wingunts have gone crazy! Why weren't we warned? Somebody should have told us ages ago about these right wing extremists!
ANDREW BREITBART WILL SKIP CPAC over its GOProud ban.Roger Simon is boycotting too. And I won’t be there either.
Posted at 9:29 pm by Glenn Reynolds
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Locker Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:42:25pm |
Late in an open thread so I'm sure anyone still hanging around could use something to occupy their time. This one is mostly for imp_62 since there is a change to the league code but anyway:
If you happen to love Association Football then check this out:
Official Fantasy Game of the Premier League
Have a league set up for LGFers and some other folks:
Code to join this league: 389962-148661
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:42:34pm |
re: #304 jamesfirecat
Not to be that guy, but Dark you really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to poking people about "wording grounds" till you get around to explaining what you think "Multiculturalism" is, and why you think its failed.
(Sorry if you've already done that and I've just missed it)
James, all I did was notice that he's ending up in fights and remark that its not smart to get into too many of them. That point can stand on its own simply as social advice.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:43:03pm |
re: #306 Rightwingconspirator
Think of it this way, :-) Practice at 300 will make 100 seem easy. If you'd like to shoot Angeles please feel welcome. We have a great range crew there.
It would be a wee bit of a drive from Madison, WI, alas. :D But if I ever get out there again, I would love the opportunity.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:43:24pm |
re: #311 Dark_Falcon
James, all I did was notice that he's ending up in fights and remark that its not smart to get into too many of them. That point can stand on its own simply as social advice.
"He" is a She...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:43:28pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:43:54pm |
re: #305 Gus 802
What. The. Fuck. I can't believe what I'm reading. It's almost surreal.
I'm so full of hate I'm laughing!
Methinks they are projecting.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:44:15pm |
re: #308 jaunte
It does seem like a parody:
Image: photo17.png
Seriously?
I don't know. I'd feel a bit foolish if it was. But in this current environment it seems very plausible.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:44:20pm |
re: #307 Naso Tang
If you think this has nothing to do with rap music and asinine clothing styles, you really live in a fantasy world.
This has nothing to do with rap music and clothing styles, it's about poverty. The things you mention are much older than rap and baggy pants, correlation is not causation.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:44:31pm |
Bedtime for the little guy. BIAB.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:45:08pm |
re: #315 Varek Raith
I'm so full of hate I'm laughing!
Methinks they are projecting.
The lab boys say that might be a fear reaction. I'm no psychiatrist, but coming from a bunch of eggheads who wouldn't recognize the thrill of danger if it walked up and snapped their little pink bras, that sounds like projection.
Cave Johnson
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:46:01pm |
re: #304 jamesfirecat
Not to be that guy, but Dark you really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to poking people about "wording grounds" till you get around to explaining what you think "Multiculturalism" is, and why you think its failed.
(Sorry if you've already done that and I've just missed it)
Multiculturalism is multiple culture living together happily ever after and sharing the same goals and values, which means that perhaps other than what is served at dinner, they are essentially the same culture.
What is your definition?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:46:27pm |
re: #303 albusteve
speakers who cannot speak English well enough to be understood.
Dialect speakers -- of any dialect in any language-- understand each other. I understand Black dialects, though I don't speak any, myself.
The convo is a simple matter of n-a and n-er, not all this extraneous crap about clothes and drugs.
People outside the millieu may not hear, know, or understand the differences, but that's basically irrelevant.
It's not complicated, at all.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:46:48pm |
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albusteve Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:47:00pm |
re: #316 Gus 802
I don't know. I'd feel a bit foolish if it was. But in this current environment it seems very plausible.
a one punch knockout...no problem
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:47:25pm |
I'm watching a movie with Jim J. Bullock. Name it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:47:31pm |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:48:26pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:49:03pm |
re: #289 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur. It is not racist to point out serious cultural problems and how they contribute to crime. In fact it is absolutely needed. Racists sometimes use this fact for cover, but if you listen to people the difference between non-racists and racists is pretty clear.
Racists will blame the group based on culture or genetics, non-racists will look to the interaction between the individual, the current environment and the historical context and look for solutions and/or corrections that can be initiated on a societal level.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:49:14pm |
::: watching Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets :::
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:49:46pm |
re: #326 rwdflynavy
I'm thinking... "Is Jim J. Bullock in another movie?"
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:51:41pm |
re: #320 Naso Tang
Multiculturalism is multiple culture living together happily ever after and sharing the same goals and values, which means that perhaps other than what is served at dinner, they are essentially the same culture.
What is your definition?
I think that there's more to a culture than what is served at dinner.
I think that the multiculturalism is indeed multiple cultures living together and sharing if not "the same goals and values" at least non conflicting goals and values.
It doesn't mean being assimilated to the point of having no traces of your original culture left behind besides culinary ones, and also the most important part of multiculturalism is that there must exist free and not blocked (and to a certain extent encouraged) cross pollination between all the cultures involved with people living truly side by side with people of a different culture. (IE If every culture has their own neighborhood/sticks to themselves that's not really multiculturalism)
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:52:40pm |
re: #324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm watching a movie with Jim J. Bullock. Name it.
Cinderella man? His daughter because famous for something..Need to google it..
There is nothing on TV and on-demand...
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:52:55pm |
re: #295 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well yeah, the words we're talking about aren't mixed-company words. I do think it's hilarious that people outside the, uh, company believe their so-called "critiques" carry any weight, when they're illiterate in the language.
It's easy and convenient to assume correlations when the foundation isn't understood. We see that all the time with sciences such as AGW and evolution. Cultures aren't exempt from that.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:53:25pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
This has nothing to do with rap music and clothing styles, it's about poverty. The things you mention are much older than rap and baggy pants, correlation is not causation.
Gee, I wish I had thought of that catch all about correlation and causation. If I had realized we could have wound this topic up instantly.//
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:53:58pm |
re: #327 b_sharp
Racists will blame the group based on culture or genetics, non-racists will look to the interaction between the individual, the current environment and the historical context and look for solutions and/or corrections that can be initiated on a societal level.
Just so.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:54:06pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
This has nothing to do with rap music and clothing styles, it's about poverty.
Actually it's about two little n-words, one ending in "a" and one ending in "er".
But there's always someone who will use it as a pretext to scratch some itch they have about Our Endless Pathologies™, political correctness, drugs, rap, same old boring anxieties.
Black kids aren't even the only ones using "n-a". Lol
Thing is, I thought it might be different this time, since Naso Tang does at least hear a difference between the two words. It's a start; he's farther along than many.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:54:14pm |
re: #325 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Until you educate yourself on the issue, screw you right back.
LOL.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:54:48pm |
Time for Nighty Night.
One more Cave Johnson Quote:
Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
On a related note, go play Portal 2. Dialogue is hilarious!
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:55:09pm |
re: #321 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
People outside the millieu may not hear, know, or understand the differences, but that's basically irrelevant.
Being pretty damned white myself I think that many people aren't really reacting out of any misunderstanding of the differences, they're reacting to the fact that they can't get away with saying either one themselves. The fact that minorities can get away with saying something they can't really bugs the hell out of some people.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:58:42pm |
re: #330 jamesfirecat
(IE If every culture has their own neighborhood/sticks to themselves that's not really multiculturalism)
There would be no discussion of the issue if that was not the common case.
In those cases where it is not, the issue goes away. When did you last hear a problem with Norwegians in Minnesota having a problem integrating (never mind the thing about who they elect)?
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:58:53pm |
re: #296 albusteve
no, the speakers you refer to are illiterate in the language, not the critics...therefore they get their own dialect?...hahaha!...good grief
Steve, different parts of the country have their own dialects and meanings. Why should a culture under artificial stress not do the same? The US use of English, the Canuck use of English and the English use of English have quite a few differences. Your demand the language be treated as sacrosanct is unrealistic and certainly doesn't reflect reality.
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Alexzander Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:59:45pm |
There is a lot of nagging going on in here.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:00:40pm |
re: #341 Alexzander
There is a lot of nagging going on in here.
Put that down! Close the window! Did you remember to put the toilet seat down? Take out the garbage and walk the dog!
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:01:32pm |
re: #331 HoosierHoops
Cowboys and Aliens ROCKED!
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:01:36pm |
re: #339 Naso Tang
There would be no discussion of the issue if that was not the common case.
In those cases where it is not, the issue goes away. When did you last hear a problem with Norwegians in Minnesota having a problem integrating (never mind the thing about who they elect)?
I don't follow... could you explain that to me in more detail.... I just don't follow at all since I've heard so little about Norwegians in Minnesota that I don't quite get the purpose about of your analogy....
So yeah... can you clarify you point?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:01:52pm |
re: #338 goddamnedfrank
Being pretty damned white myself I think that many people aren't really reacting out of any misunderstanding of the differences, they're reacting to the fact that they can't get away with saying either one themselves. The fact that minorities can get away with saying something they can't really bugs the hell out of some people.
Yeah, and even that's their own perception.
The word they think they hear, and are quick to correct in their own mind by substituting "er" for "a", is not the word they are so certain it is. But ohhh the earfuls you will get about all the pathologies you must certainly defend if you have a different interpretation of two little words. Rotfl!
People are just looking to have something to be indignant and irate about.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:02:47pm |
re: #301 Dark_Falcon
Did you even hear Naso Tang? He's seen these kids and the damage they cause. So yes, he knows enough to criticize.
Also, this is the second person you've fought with on wording grounds today. you need to knock it off or you're going to wear out your welcome here.
What? Don't be like that D_F.
Naso has experience with a very limited number of members of the culture within a limited context. Naso's extrapolation from his anecdotal evidence to the general is a mistake.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:04:34pm |
"I'm a Mog! Half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend!"
-Barf
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:04:47pm |
re: #344 jamesfirecat
So yeah... can you clarify you point?
No, sorry it's late, you get it or you don't. Semantic nuances and lectures from politically correct persons have taken its toll on me tonight. Reality of sleep calls.
Goodnight.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:04:55pm |
re: #304 jamesfirecat
Not to be that guy, but Dark you really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to poking people about "wording grounds" till you get around to explaining what you think "Multiculturalism" is, and why you think its failed.
(Sorry if you've already done that and I've just missed it)
Hey, I was even going to let it slide. But since you brought it up...
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:05:19pm |
re: #303 albusteve
speakers who cannot speak English well enough to be understood...you can pigeonhole them all you want into your prized subcultures...to most people they are appear to be simply people that can't speak English worth a shit...it's far less complicated than you need to make it
You mean like Creole?
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:06:08pm |
re: #305 Gus 802
What. The. Fuck. I can't believe what I'm reading. It's almost surreal.
Christian isn't it?
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:07:11pm |
re: #346 b_sharp
What? Don't be like that D_F.
Naso has experience with a very limited number of members of the culture within a limited context. Naso's extrapolation from his anecdotal evidence to the general is a mistake.
You know what they say about assuming stuff making you an ass, or is that asshole?
I've been doing this crap for 20 years and I was going to sell out in 2009. Now I can't.. Don't fucking tell me what my limited experiences are.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:08:45pm |
re: #351 b_sharp
Christian isn't it?
Not very. Somewhere along the way something happened. Although I do remember my brother running into one of these types of people who said "if I ever meat an atheist I'll kill him." This was back in the 70s and I was bit shocked.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:08:54pm |
re: #348 Naso Tang
politically correct
9_9
Silly canard. Rotfl, it's now "politically correct" to refute unsolicited, insufferable lectures about one's own culture(s), made by someone coming from a position of ignorance.
Political correctness/Emmanuel Goldstein is ruining the whole wide werrrreelllllldd!!!
Lol, please.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:09:15pm |
re: #353 Gus 802
Not very. Somewhere along the way something happened. Although I do remember my brother running into one of these types of people who said "if I ever
meatMEET an atheist I'll kill him." This was back in the 70s and I was bit shocked.
Oops. Wrong "meet". D'oh!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:11:52pm |
re: #349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Hey, I was even going to let it slide. But since you brought it up...
Upon further review, I've decided not answer that question at all. I think the flak I'll get for not answer will be less than what I'll get for a wrong answer. So I'm just going to let you think less of me and leave it at that.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:12:45pm |
re: #355 Gus 802
Those funny people at the Onion better watch out for that guy.
Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World
"I do not understand," reads an ancient line of pictographs depicting the sun, the moon, water, and a Sumerian who appears to be scratching his head. "A booming voice is saying, 'Let there be light,' but there is already light. It is saying, 'Let the earth bring forth grass,' but I am already standing on grass."
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:16:32pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Upon further review, I've decided not answer that question at all. I think the flak I'll get for not answer will be less than what I'll get for a wrong answer. So I'm just going to let you think less of me and leave it at that.
It's not about right or wrong to me DF its about trying to understand you (and help you understand me) so that we can have more engaging arguments and not talk past one another, but if that's what you want I can't force you do it obviously.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:16:43pm |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cowboys and Aliens ROCKED!
The reviews were good..Nothing much on tonight and it's too hot to go out
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:17:12pm |
re: #339 Naso Tang
When did you last hear a problem with Norwegians in Minnesota having a problem integrating (never mind the thing about who they elect)?
1870s. Which doesn't mean it wasn't an issue then.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:18:36pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Upon further review, I've decided not answer that question at all. I think the flak I'll get for not answer will be less than what I'll get for a wrong answer. So I'm just going to let you think less of me and leave it at that.
Ah-ahh, don't blame me for your lack of followthrough.
You were asked several days ago to clarify what you meant by finding the policy faulty, by many other people than just me. Personally, I seriously doubt my opinion means anything anyway. Why should it?
Fact is, there isn't any multiculturalism "policy", not in the United States. If you didn't intend to answer, why not just say so from the outset?
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:18:56pm |
No voting until tomorrow...
TPM Talking Points Memo
Harry Reid delays senate vote until 1PM Sunday to give more time for negotiations at the White House.
TPM Talking Points Memo
BREAKING: Dems Delay Debt Limit Test Vote [Link: tpm.ly...] ^@brianbeutler
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:19:18pm |
re: #352 Naso Tang
You know what they say about assuming stuff making you an ass, or is that asshole?
I've been doing this crap for 20 years and I was going to sell out in 2009. Now I can't.. Don't fucking tell me what my limited experiences are.
Had I known you were an expert...
Your reaction is emotional and anecdotal, and worth every penny you paid for it.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:20:14pm |
re: #358 jamesfirecat
It's not about right or wrong to me DF its about trying to understand you (and help you understand me) so that we can have more engaging arguments and not talk past one another, but if that's what you want I can't force you do it obviously.
I understand, James, but I shouldn't have brought it up at all. It touches too closely on issues of race for me to be comfortable talking about it. I don't like talking about race except among close friends in real life or family, and even then not in public. It's just too easy to mess up and say something that would be held against me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:23:08pm |
re: #359 HoosierHoops
Yeah. I recorded Space Balls yesterday.
Was going to see "Horrible Bosses" with my wife tonight, but the timing just didn't work.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:25:00pm |
CNN....
Majority Leader Harry Reid halts Senate debate of his debt ceiling plan and announces a vote will be at 1 p.m. Sunday.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:25:16pm |
re: #367 Gus 802
Firefox 4?
Make that 5.0.1 Which is what I have and I think it pretty much sucks compared to 3.6. Not exactly an update worthy of note and far more crashes. Still better than MSIE but it still isn't anything to crow about. Meh.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:26:55pm |
re: #369 Gus 802
Make that 5.0.1 Which is what I have and I think it pretty much sucks compared to 3.6. Not exactly an update worthy of note and far more crashes. Still better than MSIE but it still isn't anything to crow about. Meh.
Agreed. 5 is better than 4 but still not good. Mozilla needs to step up its game and release a 5.1 that is bug free.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:26:57pm |
re: #368 Killgore Trout
We shall see what happens. I hope there is a compromise.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:27:22pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:30:05pm |
IE 9 is pretty good. It's faster than FF 5.0 and I haven't seen it crash yet, although I only use it on occasion.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:30:06pm |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
I understand, James, but I shouldn't have brought it up at all. It touches too closely on issues of race for me to be comfortable talking about it. I don't like talking about race except among close friends in real life or family, and even then not in public. It's just too easy to mess up and say something that would be held against me.
Nothing would be held against you, anymore than anything is held against me or anyone else who doesn't have issues with frank discussions about it.
The worst thing someone might do is -- eek, refute what you say, or come from a different perspective -- I'm kidding, but only to an extent. I do believe what you wanted was to forward statements of opinion like multiculturalism being a faulty policy, and have them stand as fact. Tell me if I'm wrong, but tmk, that's not how LGF comments operate.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:31:55pm |
re: #371 PhillyPretzel
We shall see what happens. I hope there is a compromise.
Rino infidel socialist!
/
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:33:27pm |
re: #374 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Nothing would be held against you, anymore than anything is held against me or anyone else who doesn't have issues with frank discussions about it.
The worst thing someone might do is -- eek, refute what you say, or come from a different perspective -- I'm kidding, but only to an extent. I do believe what you wanted was to forward statements of opinion like multiculturalism being a faulty policy, and have them stand as fact. Tell me if I'm wrong, but tmk, that's not how LGF comments operate.
No, I wanted to discuss it, then I started to worry about how anything I said would be recorded and might be used against me. That often concerns me, as does the fact that sometimes my posts are from emotion, not reason.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:34:23pm |
re: #375 Killgore Trout
How about a student of history? Or a friend of Henry Clay? [Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:35:51pm |
re: #375 Killgore Trout
Rino infidel socialist!
/
I guess that makes me a "Totalitarian Fascist" and Gus a "Peronist Progressive" again, huh?
/Must I?
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:36:51pm |
re: #374 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Nothing would be held against you, anymore than anything is held against me or anyone else who doesn't have issues with frank discussions about it.
I have no problem with frank discussions.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:37:54pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:39:36pm |
re: #380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #374 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don't know what the fuck y'all are going back and forth about.
Just thought you might like to know.
Last Sunday I posted a response to the effect that I said multiculturalism is a failed policy. People have since asked me to define 'multiculturalism' but I'm afraid to do so.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:40:35pm |
re: #373 b_sharp
IE 9 is pretty good. It's faster than FF 5.0 and I haven't seen it crash yet, although I only use it on occasion.
IE8 sucks...It really can't handle jcache issues and Java.. Very disappointing browser to work in Oracle with..
Do you think the war between Larry and Bill is still going on?
Now that Oracle owns Java and can mess up IE Browsers to view Oracle API functions with Java calls.. FF plugins have caught up with Oracle...You can do just about whatever you want...Which till not that long ago certains forms wouldn't load
| 383 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:41:19pm |
re: #369 Gus 802
Make that 5.0.1 Which is what I have and I think it pretty much sucks compared to 3.6. Not exactly an update worthy of note and far more crashes. Still better than MSIE but it still isn't anything to crow about. Meh.
Yes.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:44:45pm |
re: #376 Dark_Falcon
No, I wanted to discuss it, then I started to worry about how anything I said would be recorded and might be used against me. That often concerns me, as does the fact that sometimes my posts are from emotion, not reason.
Then don't react out of emotion. Simple as that.
Dude, I as one of like what, 3 Black people on all of LGF just had a rather contrary conversation about the frickin n word. Lol I lived to tell about it.
Take it from someone with p-l-e-n-t-y of views that are unpopular around here. There are worse things than someone disagreeing with you.
| 385 |
goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:44:51pm |
re: #381 Dark_Falcon
Last Sunday I posted a response to the effect that I said multiculturalism is a failed policy. People have since asked me to define 'multiculturalism' but I'm afraid to do so.
I'm afraid of horses, they're all big and stompy.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:47:04pm |
re: #381 Dark_Falcon
Last Sunday I posted a response to the effect that I said multiculturalism is a failed policy. People have since asked me to define 'multiculturalism' but I'm afraid to do so.
Hey man, wait till people find out I'm a militant atheist.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:48:40pm |
re: #381 Dark_Falcon
Good luck with that.
"I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole!"
Jesus- South Park
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Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:48:41pm |
re: #387 b_sharp
Hey man, wait till people find out I'm a militant atheist.
Oh, so you want an Islamic Theocracy...
///
| 390 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:50:05pm |
Anti-Gay Preacher's Lawyer: 'Rachel Maddow's Career Is Over'
Lol, what a fool.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:50:38pm |
re: #390 Varek Raith
Anti-Gay Preacher's Lawyer: 'Rachel Maddow's Career Is Over'
Wow, talk about wishful thinking.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:51:22pm |
I looked on the Wikipedia, this in the article of the group in the last thread. It's under goals in the Infobox:
oppose religion in the public sphere
This bothers me.
Not the least of which is because of the fact that my faith informs my politics. Always has, even back when I was Christian.
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Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:51:30pm |
re: #390 Varek Raith
Anti-Gay Preacher's Lawyer: 'Rachel Maddow's Career Is Over'
Lol, what a fool.
As former Christian Rocker, he knows all about careers ending...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:52:56pm |
Alright, here goes:
What I find to be a faulty idea of multiculturalism is the the idea that people from vastly different cultures can get along without serious trouble in the absence of strong efforts put into assimilation. I couple this to things and events that strike me as attempts to build up other cultures by abasing western culture (what I've heard called "zero-sum multiculturalism").
Please don't question me too closely right away. Just posting this was hard enough.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:54:19pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
Alright, here goes:
What I find to be a faulty idea of multiculturalism is the the idea that people from vastly different cultures can get along without serious trouble in the absence of strong efforts put into assimilation. I couple this to things and events that strike me as attempts to build up other cultures by abasing western culture (what I've heard called "zero-sum multiculturalism").
Please don't question me too closely right away. Just posting this was hard enough.
Upding for honesty.
| 396 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:54:45pm |
Evening Lizardim. What's the good word?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:55:41pm |
re: #390 Varek Raith
Anti-Gay Preacher's Lawyer: 'Rachel Maddow's Career Is Over'
Lol, what a fool.
He's a lawyer, so I think he knows its BS. But I wonder what fool would believe him, and like Mr. T I pity that fool.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:55:51pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:55:57pm |
re: #388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good luck with that.
"I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole!"
Jesus- South Park
Lol well, you should see the little interaction that ensued from your #118. Someone ended up in quite a snit, running away, and DF even wagged his mommy finger at yours truly for talking back. /oh my
/haha Seriously, it was fine. I'm teasing you.
| 401 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:55:59pm |
re: #396 thedopefishlives
Evening Lizardim. What's the good word?
'pulchritudinous' is an excellent word.
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:56:44pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
Alright, here goes:
What I find to be a faulty idea of multiculturalism is the the idea that people from vastly different cultures can get along without serious trouble in the absence of strong efforts put into assimilation. I couple this to things and events that strike me as attempts to build up other cultures by abasing western culture (what I've heard called "zero-sum multiculturalism").
Please don't question me too closely right away. Just posting this was hard enough.
I find nothing at all to argue with you on this.
It's foolish to think that tossing people with different cultures together is going to have them get along instantly, even if those two people don't already have other issues (different races, different nationalities) to worry about.
I don't think that we should abase ourselves just to make others feel comfortable.
All that said, I also believe that as long as we as a nation put our best foot forward with malice or favoritism towards none (on a national scale at least) it is possible for people of any culture to come to live and let live with us, even if the changes require generations to take place.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:57:05pm |
re: #396 thedopefishlives
Evening Lizardim. What's the good word?
Gooddamnfrank got him self some new guns. He also purchased a new rod and reel while he was at it. He posted something about "catching a dopefish".
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:57:09pm |
re: #397 Varek Raith
BTW, I gots ice cream.
Ph34r me!
Not a chance. I have fried chicken. That's right, I said it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:57:54pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
Alright, here goes:
What I find to be a faulty idea of multiculturalism is the the idea that people from vastly different cultures can get along without serious trouble in the absence of strong efforts put into assimilation. I couple this to things and events that strike me as attempts to build up other cultures by abasing western culture (what I've heard called "zero-sum multiculturalism").
Please don't question me too closely right away. Just posting this was hard enough.
What from this idea above has been made into faulty policy?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:58:23pm |
re: #403 Dark_Falcon
Gooddamnfrank got him self some new guns. He also purchased a new rod and reel while he was at it. He posted something about "catching a dopefish".
Oh, that really can't end well. I just hope he hasn't figured out what bait to use to catch a dopefish.
| 407 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:58:54pm |
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:59:16pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
Alright, here goes:
What I find to be a faulty idea of multiculturalism is the the idea that people from vastly different cultures can get along without serious trouble in the absence of strong efforts put into assimilation. I couple this to things and events that strike me as attempts to build up other cultures by abasing western culture (what I've heard called "zero-sum multiculturalism").
Please don't question me too closely right away. Just posting this was hard enough.
Why was it hard?
| 409 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:59:59pm |
OT. Twitter folks. I've been away from my computer all day. (obviously logged in the whole time gone)
See that there are 1676 tweets I missed.
I bet it could be summed up in 8, except for the hilarious I missed.
| 410 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:00:09pm |
re: #408 Renaissance_Man
Why was it hard?
People have different comfort zones is all.
For example, I have a hard as hell time talking with a doctor.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:01:12pm |
OT, but I am not getting any sleep tonight.
For dinner, the family had soup. Mom put out soup crackers, which I put in. I noticed they tasted funny after a while, and asked about it.
Turned out they had expired in June of 2009.
I am now having severe acid issues.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:01:45pm |
re: #406 thedopefishlives
Oh, that really can't end well. I just hope he hasn't figured out what bait to use to catch a dopefish.
Well, he lives in California, so he said his next visit was to the dispensary for some 'ganja bait'.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:01:59pm |
re: #410 Varek Raith
People have different comfort zones is all.
For example, I have a hard as hell time talking with a doctor.
Also, everyone has been winding themselves up for days now to kick the living shit out of whatever DF came up with.
Which can make having a discussion about something a tad difficult.
| 414 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:02:02pm |
re: #411 ProLifeLiberal
OT, but I am not getting any sleep tonight.
For dinner, the family had soup. Mom put out soup crackers, which I put in. I noticed they tasted funny after a while, and asked about it.
Turned out they had expired in June of 2009.
I am now having severe acid issues.
Glass of water + spoonful baking soda = relief.
| 415 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:02:06pm |
Random question... In an open thread, can there ever really be an "OT" post?
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:02:16pm |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, everyone has been winding themselves up for days now to kick the living shit out of whatever DF came up with.
Which can make having a discussion about something a tad difficult.
That too.
| 417 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:02:38pm |
re: #411 ProLifeLiberal
OT, but I am not getting any sleep tonight.
For dinner, the family had soup. Mom put out soup crackers, which I put in. I noticed they tasted funny after a while, and asked about it.
Turned out they had expired in June of 2009.
I am now having severe acid issues.
Do you live near a 24-hour Walgreen's? If so, its time to go to it.
| 418 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:04:17pm |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, everyone has been winding themselves up for days now to kick the living shit out of whatever DF came up with.
Which can make having a discussion about something a tad difficult.
That's what I was worried about. I worried I'd say something stupid and then get yelled at.
| 420 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:04:51pm |
re: #402 jamesfirecat
I don't think that we should abase ourselves just to make others feel comfortable.
I know I sure don't. That in itself makes people uncomfortable, not that I care.
| 421 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:04:55pm |
re: #412 Dark_Falcon
Well, he lives in California, so he said his next visit was to the dispensary for some 'ganja bait'.
Contrary to popular opinion, the dopefish has nothing to do with actual dope. See, the dopefish.
And no, it's not my invention either. I simply borrowed it as the nickname.
| 423 |
ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:06:49pm |
| 424 |
b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:07:34pm |
re: #415 thedopefishlives
Random question... In an open thread, can there ever really be an "OT" post?
Every Thursday.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:07:50pm |
re: #418 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was worried about. I worried I'd say something stupid and then get yelled at.
So, what policy has been made out of what you see as "zero-sum multiculturalism"?
| 427 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:10:32pm |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, everyone has been winding themselves up for days now to kick the living shit out of whatever DF came up with.
Which can make having a discussion about something a tad difficult.
I presumed he would back out of it.
| 428 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:11:15pm |
re: #421 thedopefishlives
Contrary to popular opinion, the dopefish has nothing to do with actual dope. See, the dopefish.
And no, it's not my invention either. I simply borrowed it as the nickname.
So the dopefish has a binary thought process and will swallow anything. That explains that fish the I noticed commenting at Atlas Shrieks.
/
| 429 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:11:55pm |
re: #411 ProLifeLiberal
The crackers? I'd think they'd just go stale. Mebbe the soup was not so good. Can't imagine the crackers causing the problem.
| 430 |
ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:12:14pm |
re: #421 thedopefishlives
1998 called, they want their site back.
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Sionainn Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:12:53pm |
re: #418 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was worried about. I worried I'd say something stupid and then get yelled at.
I won't yell at you. I like to hear different points of views.
| 433 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:12:53pm |
OT: Newsflash from DKos...
"The 'Manifesto' is Plagiarised"
/sigh
| 434 |
ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:13:20pm |
re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No, another family member ate a single cracker plain. It was acidic.
It went beyond stale into CDC and FDC territory.
| 435 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:13:58pm |
| 436 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:14:04pm |
re: #433 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
OT: Newsflash from DKos...
"The 'Manifesto' is Plagiarised"
/sigh
It took them this long to realize this? Oi. No one ever gave them credit for being the brightest crayons in the box.
| 437 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:14:14pm |
re: #433 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
OT: Newsflash from DKos...
"The 'Manifesto' is Plagiarised"
/sigh
Yes, from Mein Kampf.
/Is that a Godwin's Law violation?
| 438 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:15:08pm |
re: #430 ProLifeLiberal
1998 called, they want their site back.
2009 called. They want their crackers back.
| 439 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:15:20pm |
re: #430 ProLifeLiberal
1998 called, they want their site back.
Tell me about it, but I kinda like the whole retro look. Brings back some fond memories of the old days of the Internet.
| 440 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:16:10pm |
re: #434 ProLifeLiberal
I believes you! I didn't know that could happen.
| 441 |
b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:16:22pm |
re: #413 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, everyone has been winding themselves up for days now to kick the living shit out of whatever DF came up with.
Which can make having a discussion about something a tad difficult.
Really? I did not know that.
| 442 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:16:38pm |
re: #387 b_sharp
Hey man, wait till people find out I'm a militant atheist.
Have you been around for the atheism threads?
Much as I love talking religion, I usually stay out of those.
| 443 |
ProGunLiberal Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:16:48pm |
re: #438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Touche. Which is why my body is out of whack.
| 444 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:17:05pm |
| 445 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:17:08pm |
"I can't make decisions! I'm a President!"
President Skroob
| 446 |
fire at night Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:17:41pm |
Does anyone else miss the late night open comic presentation threads? I was recently passed from my Dad another *BOX* of classic comics (in rather poor condition), but they were all from the late 60's to the early 70's of the DC and Marvels' heydays. It was cool to see Charles present them for a context and see where a thread wandered from there. I would love to post a few choice issues from Marvel's introduction of Thor, the Hulk, and the Fantastic Four, but I'm afraid it would be just spam psoting jpeg after scanned jpeg.
I have a few of the early comic issues separated already sequential page order for viewing, but wouldn't want to bog down the comment line with unneeded scans for appreciation.
I'm just throwing it out there as an idea, but the Boss has a good collection of stories worth being viewed in the past.
| 447 |
Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:19:34pm |
re: #438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
2009 called. They want their crackers back.
Did you warn 2009 about the Tea Party in 2010?
No?
YOU DICK!
| 448 |
fire at night Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:19:41pm |
Or if interested in brevity, a few links for viewing. I don't wan't the RIAA on my back for file sharing, and defiantly do not unwanted heat on LGF for posts of that nature for those who are interested.
| 449 |
b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:19:55pm |
re: #433 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
OT: Newsflash from DKos...
"The 'Manifesto' is Plagiarised"
/sigh
So it was an academic peer reviewed work?
| 450 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:20:07pm |
re: #446 fire at night
BTW, the movies Captain America and Thor left me a little "meh"/ Gosh I hope "The Avengers" doesn't suck.
| 451 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:20:16pm |
re: #446 fire at night
Does anyone else miss the late night open comic presentation threads? I was recently passed from my Dad another *BOX* of classic comics (in rather poor condition), but they were all from the late 60's to the early 70's of the DC and Marvels' heydays. It was cool to see Charles present them for a context and see where a thread wandered from there. I would love to post a few choice issues from Marvel's introduction of Thor, the Hulk, and the Fantastic Four, but I'm afraid it would be just spam psoting jpeg after scanned jpeg.
I have a few of the early comic issues separated already sequential page order for viewing, but wouldn't want to bog down the comment line with unneeded scans for appreciation.
I'm just throwing it out there as an idea, but the Boss has a good collection of stories worth being viewed in the past.
Post a Page then post a link here. Then if Charles likes it he can comment or even promote it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:21:17pm |
re: #436 thedopefishlives
It took them this long to realize this? Oi. No one ever gave them credit for being the brightest crayons in the box.
The funniest part is the person just found out he plagiarized from [dun dun dunnnn] Ted Kazynski.
Lol LGF is so far ahead of the curve.
| 454 |
Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:21:54pm |
re: #418 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was worried about. I worried I'd say something stupid and then get yelled at.
Now, if you said something along the lines of "multiculturalism leads to Greedo shooting first, then I'd yell.
:P
| 455 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:22:03pm |
re: #453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
The funniest part is the person just found out he plagiarized from [dun dun dunnn] Ted Kazynski.
Lol LGF is so far ahead of the curve.
Of course we are. We're Zionist extraterrestrial lizardoid people.
| 456 |
b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:22:33pm |
re: #442 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Have you been around for the atheism threads?
Much as I love talking religion, I usually stay out of those.
Yes, more than once, but it was before you joined.
| 457 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:22:41pm |
| 458 |
What, me worry? Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:22:57pm |
re: #443 ProLifeLiberal
Touche. Which is why my body is out of whack.
7up or Gingerale can be good for upset stomach. Coke used to be, but I don't know anymore.
Ginger if you have any. Or ginger tea.
Anise which is black licorice (possibly). Licorice tea.
Home Remedies from Marj if you don't have antacids around.
Pepto is my fav, but alka seltzer is probably the best, although it makes me gag.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:24:03pm |
re: #456 b_sharp
Yes, more than once, but it was before you joined.
Oh, I meant the ones in the past couple days.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:24:20pm |
re: #453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
The funniest part is the person just found out he plagiarized from [dun dun dunnn] Ted Kazynski.
Lol LGF is so far ahead of the curve.
Oh, come on. My mom already knew he plagiarized from Kaczynski. She just reads the NYT.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:25:13pm |
re: #450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW, the movies Captain America and Thor left me a little "meh"/ Gosh I hope "The Avengers" doesn't suck.
Really? I can believe Thor, but I've been hearing things closer to X-Men:First Class for Cappy.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:25:43pm |
re: #454 Varek Raith
Now, if you said something along the lines of "multiculturalism leads to Greedo shooting first, then I'd yell.
:P
No, but it did lead to the paralysis of the Senate. Damn those other species insisting they had rights. It was a great day when the Emperor took change and started puttin' 'em in their place! Can't be lettin' them Sullustians get uppity, no sir!
/redneck stormtrooper
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:26:06pm |
re: #460 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, come on. My mom already knew he plagiarized from Kaczynski. She just reads the NYT.
It's still a front-pager/feature/thingy there. Ah, well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:26:14pm |
re: #460 SanFranciscoZionist
Watched an SNL retrospective the other night. Showed Will Ferrell as the Unabomber at his high school reunion. Funny as hell.
Can't find the video, though.
G'night knuckleheads.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:26:57pm |
re: #453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
The funniest part is the person just found out he plagiarized from [dun dun dunnn] Ted Kazynski.
Lol LGF is so far ahead of the curve.
Can we please let Kazynski sue him? It would kind of fun watching the crazies go nuts at each other.
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jamesfirecat Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:27:23pm |
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:27:43pm |
re: #418 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was worried about. I worried I'd say something stupid and then get yelled at.
Some might say 'it's just the internet', but I know that this community matters a great deal to you.
Still, you made a statement of opinion. People jumped down your throat for it, and to be honest I think the nagging about it has been a bit much, and you deserved better. However, you were uncertain enough of your opinion that you had no confidence that it was either a) accurate, b) clear enough to be expressed, or c) able to stand up to scrutiny.
Yet, despite this uncertainty, your response was not to try to learn more about the subject in order to form a more clear and more correct opinion. Your response was not to ask for more information, or to examine your belief and see if it might be wrong, or at the very least misinformed. Your response was to cling more tightly to your opinion, despite the fact that you believed that it wasn't going to stand up to any scrutiny, and to be afraid to discuss it out of fear that people would find more flaws in it.
What does that tell you about yourself?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:27:59pm |
re: #461 wlewisiii
Really? I can believe Thor, but I've been hearing things closer to X-Men:First Class for Cappy.
The movie was very good. The hero left me cold. But nowhere (IMO) close to X-Men: First Class.
Villain in CA was freakin' perfect.
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Varek Raith Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:28:23pm |
re: #466 jamesfirecat
Death to the Xenos!
Oh wait, sorry wrong emperor.
Oh, great.
Another fanatic.
:P
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Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:29:16pm |
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What, me worry? Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:30:25pm |
re: #467 Renaissance_Man
Well... in defense of DF, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, what he says here is usually scrutinized at other sites and that can get a little wearing after, oh I don't know, 3-4 years?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:31:29pm |
re: #467 Renaissance_Man
Some might say 'it's just the internet', but I know that this community matters a great deal to you.
Still, you made a statement of opinion. People jumped down your throat for it, and to be honest I think the nagging about it has been a bit much, and you deserved better. However, you were uncertain enough of your opinion that you had no confidence that it was either a) accurate, b) clear enough to be expressed, or c) able to stand up to scrutiny.
Yet, despite this uncertainty, your response was not to try to learn more about the subject in order to form a more clear and more correct opinion. Your response was not to ask for more information, or to examine your belief and see if it might be wrong, or at the very least misinformed. Your response was to cling more tightly to your opinion, despite the fact that you believed that it wasn't going to stand up to any scrutiny, and to be afraid to discuss it out of fear that people would find more flaws in it.
What does that tell you about yourself?
That I lack confidence and worry all the time about how I am perceived. But I already knew that.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:32:54pm |
re: #472 Dark_Falcon
That I lack confidence and worry all the time about how I am perceived. But I already knew that.
So about this "zero sum game multiculturalism"... is that what you see as having become a policy?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:33:10pm |
re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The movie was very good. The hero left me cold. But nowhere (IMO) close to X-Men: First Class.
Villain in CA was freakin' perfect.
Thanks, that's good to know.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:34:04pm |
re: #472 Dark_Falcon
That I lack confidence and worry all the time about how I am perceived. But I already knew that.
You're not the only one. It's all in how you handle it. Me, I usually wind up just avoiding my hot-button subjects. Also, a firm reliance on the power of snark.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:34:17pm |
re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist
'pulchritudinous' is an excellent word.
Oh, wow, yes it is.
I need to add it to my list of pretentious words that will make people go look in their dictionary.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:37:19pm |
re: #408 Renaissance_Man
Why was it hard?
It was hard, because when certain people say things here, a few others here, a very few but a very loud few, will jump all over it and instead of asking for clarification or explanation, will make assumptions about what the person MUST have meant, and will take it from there, leading not to a conversation or discussion, but a fight and bad feelings.
that's why.
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BongCrodny Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:37:32pm |
re: #406 thedopefishlives
Oh, that really can't end well. I just hope he hasn't figured out what bait to use to catch a dopefish.
I can help you out with that.
What?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:38:08pm |
re: #473 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
So about this "zero sum game multiculturalism"... is that what you see as having become a policy?
Not everywhere or all at once. But it shows up at times. Revisionist history like that of Howard Zinn is a good example.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:38:59pm |
re: #467 Renaissance_Man
Some might say 'it's just the internet', but I know that this community matters a great deal to you.
Still, you made a statement of opinion. People jumped down your throat for it, and to be honest I think the nagging about it has been a bit much, and you deserved better. However, you were uncertain enough of your opinion that you had no confidence that it was either a) accurate, b) clear enough to be expressed, or c) able to stand up to scrutiny.
Yet, despite this uncertainty, your response was not to try to learn more about the subject in order to form a more clear and more correct opinion. Your response was not to ask for more information, or to examine your belief and see if it might be wrong, or at the very least misinformed. Your response was to cling more tightly to your opinion, despite the fact that you believed that it wasn't going to stand up to any scrutiny, and to be afraid to discuss it out of fear that people would find more flaws in it.
What does that tell you about yourself?
In fairness - a few others didn't bother to make any attempt to explore the subject or further the conversation, either, instead choosing to play a "GOTCHA" game with DF. Don't put it all on DF.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:40:09pm |
re: #479 Dark_Falcon
Not everywhere or all at once. But it shows up at times. Revisionist history like that of Howard Zinn is a good example.
But you said the policy is flawed, or has failed. What policy?
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prairiefire Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:40:13pm |
re: #479 Dark_Falcon
Not everywhere or all at once. But it shows up at times. Revisionist history like that of Howard Zinn is a good example.
Revisionist? Zinn? I think he gives a different perspective of the events, he doesn't change the events.
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:40:24pm |
re: #472 Dark_Falcon
That I lack confidence and worry all the time about how I am perceived. But I already knew that.
Sure, everyone's like that to some extent.
However, to me, it seems like the real fear you had was that you might be confronted with something that might lead you to question your opinion even more. And that might lead to you changing that opinion. And that's the really scary thing - information and facts that contradict what we've long believed.
I recall how morose you were after the episode on here where you learned your long-held opinion on progressive taxation was completely wrong. This seems to me to be another one.
My point is, this site is unique because it is far less of an echo chamber than any other forum I've seen. This is where people should learn to let go of their long-held beliefs if they're found wanting. And I think that attitude would do you a world of good, if you can wrap your head around it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:40:50pm |
re: #479 Dark_Falcon
Not everywhere or all at once. But it shows up at times. Revisionist history like that of Howard Zinn is a good example.
DF, I am going to hazard the thought here that part of the problem is that we're not talking about the same thing in this conversation. Leaving the quality of Zinn's work out of this (I can't judge, I know him by reputation only), who is setting public policy based on the works of Howard Zinn?
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:41:30pm |
re: #480 reine.de.tout
In fairness - a few others didn't bother to make any attempt to explore the subject or further the conversation, either, instead choosing to play a "GOTCHA" game with DF. Don't put it all on DF.
I'm not. I think he was done by badly. And I don't really care that much about the conflict of opinions regarding this subject at all. I'm much more interested in his response to having his opinion challenged.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:42:01pm |
re: #481 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
But you said the policy is flawed, or has failed. What policy?
I'm not convinced DF really meant an official "policy"; I read it more like he used the word "policy" as a shortcut, meaning some folks talk as if something should be a policy and they speak loudly enough about it that the idea gains some traction.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:43:08pm |
re: #480 reine.de.tout
In fairness - a few others didn't bother to make any attempt to explore the subject or further the conversation, either, instead choosing to play a "GOTCHA" game with DF. Don't put it all on DF.
No, there were numerous requests for clarification from several people. They were promised but not in coming until today.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:44:03pm |
re: #484 SanFranciscoZionist
DF, I am going to hazard the thought here that part of the problem is that we're not talking about the same thing in this conversation. Leaving the quality of Zinn's work out of this (I can't judge, I know him by reputation only), who is setting public policy based on the works of Howard Zinn?
I just used him as a example of zero-sum multiculturalism. Describing it in policy matters will require me to study some more. I want to make sure the examples I may think of will survive scrutiny, since I know they will be scrutinized. I don't want to post some lame "Outrageous Outrage".
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:44:05pm |
Whew. I tell you what. Not having health insurance can be so much fun! All I need now is an air conditioner.
//
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:44:13pm |
re: #485 Renaissance_Man
I'm not. I think he was done by badly. And I don't really care that much about the conflict of opinions regarding this subject at all. I'm much more interested in his response to having his opinion challenged.
Look - I understand perfectly.
When a conversation is flowing with people who are interested in what you have to say, there will be back and forth and CLARIFICATION of what people man.
It's very easy in a quick written post to use a word that you don't mean the way others take it, or to not have an opinion fully formed enough to put into writing so that others will clearly understand it.
Now, all of that is OK if most everybody else agrees with you, because they will "fill in the blanks", so to speak, where you were unclear.
But woe be unto the person who does it with an opinion that others are ready to steamroll you about.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:44:28pm |
re: #487 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
No, there were numerous requests for clarification from several people. They were promised but not in coming until today.
See:
re: #490 reine.de.tout
Look - I understand perfectly.
When a conversation is flowing with people who are interested in what you have to say, there will be back and forth and CLARIFICATION of what people man.
It's very easy in a quick written post to use a word that you don't mean the way others take it, or to not have an opinion fully formed enough to put into writing so that others will clearly understand it.
Now, all of that is OK if most everybody else agrees with you, because they will "fill in the blanks", so to speak, where you were unclear.
But woe be unto the person who does it with an opinion that others are ready to steamroll you about.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:44:40pm |
Ah, summer thunderstorm. I love a good show.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:45:22pm |
re: #486 reine.de.tout
I'm not convinced DF really meant an official "policy"; I read it more like he used the word "policy" as a shortcut, meaning some folks talk as if something should be a policy and they speak loudly enough about it that the idea gains some traction.
This is why he was asked to clarify what he meant.
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BongCrodny Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:46:00pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:46:19pm |
re: #493 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
This is why he was asked to clarify what he meant.
AFTER he'd been thoroughly trounced.
Sorry, but I wouldn't feel like making a clarification either, if I thought people were just trying to get me to talk so they could pounce some more.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:46:27pm |
re: #488 Dark_Falcon
I just used him as a example of zero-sum multiculturalism. Describing it in policy matters will require me to study some more. I want to make sure the examples I may think of will survive scrutiny, since I know they will be scrutinized. I don't want to post some lame "Outrageous Outrage".
OK. I'm just not sure if we're talking about real-world influences, or just the kind of 'multiculturalism' promoted by wild-eyed college freshmen who've just figured out that not everyone is white, and think this will be news to you to.
If the latter, I can quite agree that they're irritating as hell.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:46:34pm |
re: #490 reine.de.tout
But woe be unto the person who does it with an opinion that others are ready to steamroll you about.
Ain't it the truth.
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prairiefire Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:46:59pm |
re: #492 thedopefishlives
Ah, summer thunderstorm. I love a good show.
There is one south of us that sounds like the 4th of July.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:48:08pm |
Look D_F, you're getting all kinds of support here. You will always get support from some lizards, that's the way LGF rolls. Even during the times your views drive me crazy, I'll support your right to express them, as will many others.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:50:11pm |
re: #495 reine.de.tout
AFTER he'd been thoroughly trounced.
Disagreeing with a statement of opinion stated as fact is not trouncing.
Sorry, but I wouldn't feel like making a clarification either, if I thought people were just trying to get me to talk so they could pounce some more.
Well he himself said he would, Wed, Thurs, Fri. So here we are on Saturday, talking about it. He was, then wasn't going to again, but has been encouraged to.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:51:55pm |
re: #499 b_sharp
Look D_F, you're getting all kinds of support here. You will always get support from some lizards, that's the way LGF rolls. Even during the times your views drive me crazy, I'll support your right to express them, as will many others.
And you are absolutely one of the ones who's interested in hearing what people have to say.
You know, there's enough back and forth conversation here that we get to sort of know certain aspects of people's personalities.
I will take a different tone with people who I know are 1) not really interested in a discussion about something I have an opinion about, and/or 2) are tough, than I do with a person who I know is 1) genuinely interested in knowing what I have to say, even if it's something they disagree with, and/or 2) someone who doesn't have as thick a skin as others. I just think (for me) it's the proper thing to do - it's what I would do if I were talking to them face-to-face.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:52:51pm |
re: #500 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Disagreeing with a statement of opinion stated as fact is not trouncing.
Well he himself said he would, Wed, Thurs, Fri. So here we are on Saturday, talking about it. He was, then wasn't going to again, but has been encouraged to.
Disagreement is not trouncing.
Disagreement with insults, is.
And a pile-on is absolutely a trouncing.
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prairiefire Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:52:59pm |
re: #501 reine.de.tout
Or someone who is a roly-poly pussycat! Do we have any?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:53:26pm |
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prairiefire Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:54:50pm |
re: #504 reine.de.tout
Me?
Nah, I've read your posts where you hold your own. Unless it is young libertarian. : )
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:55:11pm |
re: #505 prairiefire
Nah, I've read your posts where you hold your own. Unless it is young libertarian. : )
I kind of miss him. I wonder how he is doing.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:55:20pm |
So what are we getting at here and why is DF's view on multiculturalism so important?
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:56:03pm |
re: #501 reine.de.tout
And you are absolutely one of the ones who's interested in hearing what people have to say.
You know, there's enough back and forth conversation here that we get to sort of know certain aspects of people's personalities.
I will take a different tone with people who I know are 1) not really interested in a discussion about something I have an opinion about, and/or 2) are tough, than I do with a person who I know is 1) genuinely interested in knowing what I have to say, even if it's something they disagree with, and/or 2) someone who doesn't have as thick a skin as others. I just think (for me) it's the proper thing to do - it's what I would do if I were talking to them face-to-face.
You have a lot of class reine.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:56:15pm |
re: #505 prairiefire
Nah, I've read your posts where you hold your own. Unless it is young libertarian. : )
LOL.
He fools me every damned time!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:56:20pm |
In the name of our Fodder, Gravel Bob . . . .
How is everyone this evening?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:56:31pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:57:39pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:58:27pm |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
Disagreement is not trouncing.
Disagreement with insults, is.
And a pile-on is absolutely a trouncing.
Indeed, it is. Sometimes, all it takes is saying something like the n-word with "a" is a different word from the n-word ending in "er".
People's worlds fall apart (scroll up if you're not familiar) and try and heap all manner of extraneous b.s., acting out.
But this is how it goes.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:58:35pm |
re: #511 SanFranciscoZionist
I always rather like him.
He seemed to be what I think of as an "instigator" - sets up a spat, then backs on out.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:58:59pm |
re: #507 Gus 802
So what are we getting at here and why is DF's view on multiculturalism so important?
Because I let the suspense build. If I'd come out with the answer on Monday it wouldn't have been as big a deal.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:59:22pm |
re: #507 Gus 802
So what are we getting at here and why is DF's view on multiculturalism so important?
The only importance was that he said he'd give his definition.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:00:15pm |
re: #513 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Indeed, it is. Sometimes, all it takes is saying something like the n-word with "a" is a different word from the n-word ending in "er".
People's worlds fall apart (scroll up if you're not familiar) and try and heap all manner of extraneous b.s., acting out.
But this is how it goes.
I saw it.
But you and Naso have thicker skins than DF. And it wasn't a pile-on of either of you, it really wasn't.
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darthstar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:00:55pm |
re: #503 prairiefire
Or someone who is a roly-poly pussycat! Do we have any?
Mrrraaooowww, motherfucker.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:01:14pm |
re: #507 Gus 802
So what are we getting at here and why is DF's view on multiculturalism so important?
It isn't any more important than anyone else's, but it is different than most here so it's of interest.
Besides, I feel good about myself when I can convince somebody to re-examine closely held views, and to do that I need to know what those views are.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:02:42pm |
re: #521 b_sharp
It isn't any more important than anyone else's, but it is different than most here so it's of interest.
Besides, I feel good about myself when I can convince somebody to re-examine closely held views, and to do that I need to know what those views are.
That's an interesting answer.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:02:54pm |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Because I let the suspense build. If I'd come out with the answer on Monday it wouldn't have been as big a deal.
ah, and you see, I think you needed that time to form the explanatory sentences in your head. When you first used the term, you had a definition in your head that made sense to you, but you hadn't really put it into written sentences. And sometimes it takes awhile to get the written version of an idea just right.
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Mocking Jay Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:03:07pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:03:45pm |
re: #518 reine.de.tout
I saw it.
But you and Naso have thicker skins than DF. And it wasn't a pile-on of either of you, it really wasn't.
I didn't say it was a pile-on. But only one person left indignant after having had a tantrum complete with insults.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:05:32pm |
re: #525 JasonA
LGF After Dark.
That works on so many levels...
I dearly miss the After Dark screensaver suite. Those were brilliant.
Also, if you never played any of the You Don't Know Jack games, you're bad and wrong and should feel very terrible about yourself.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:05:45pm |
re: #526 b_sharp
Your parents having sex on the kitchen table.
haha.
My daughter's HS physics teacher was a character, apparently. His FB page is hilarious. One of his students made notes of the weird things he would say to his classes, and posted it as a note on his FB page. One of the phrases that stuck in my mind, just because I thought it was hilarious, was:
"Children, America's worst sexually transmitted disease!".
I don't know why I find that hilarious, but I do.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:06:00pm |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:06:10pm |
re: #529 reine.de.tout
haha.
My daughter's HS physics teacher was a character, apparently. His FB page is hilarious. One of his students made notes of the weird things he would say to his classes, and posted it as a note on his FB page. One of the phrases that stuck in my mind, just because I thought it was hilarious, was:
"Children, America's worst sexually transmitted disease!".
I don't know why I find that hilarious, but I do.
Kids in the backseat cause accidents. Accidents in the backseat cause kids.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:06:21pm |
re: #526 b_sharp
Your parents having sex on the kitchen table.
MOMMY WHY WAS DADDY CHOKING YOU WHY WHY waaaaaaaaah
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What, me worry? Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:06:22pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:06:59pm |
re: #527 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I didn't say it was a pile-on. But only one person left indignant after having had a tantrum complete with insults.
Naso?
He's always sort of done that, and he's been here much longer than you or really, many of the current regulars.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:07:13pm |
I am so freaking tired. Been up since 6am and didn't have one, not one!, nap today.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:07:25pm |
re: #415 thedopefishlives
Random question... In an open thread, can there ever really be an "OT" post?
All Orly Taitz threads are OT.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:07:46pm |
re: #526 b_sharp
Your parents having sex on the kitchen table.
Now I'm thinking about formica, and an aluminum strip.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:07:57pm |
re: #534 reine.de.tout
Naso?
He's always sort of done that, and he's been here much longer than you or really, many of the current regulars.
And?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:08:03pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:08:12pm |
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:08:18pm |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Because I let the suspense build. If I'd come out with the answer on Monday it wouldn't have been as big a deal.
That, and because you are self-aware enough to sense when your worldview is built on shaky ground, and your uncertainty shows. That uncertainty is like a heady bucket of chum on the internet. However, it tells me something good - that you know when your opinions are poorly grounded, and you don't like it; you want your beliefs to be based in facts, but you value 'team loyalty' so much that you feel like changing your opinions based on facts might somehow be showing disloyalty. This conflict is what drives that uncertainty, from what I see.
There are other posters here, like lostlakehiker, who make a regular habit of dropping opinions not based in fact and acting like they are, even when called on it. But they never show uncertainty, because no amount of contrary facts will ever shake their beliefs. There is no point in arguing or piling on these types. You, on the other hand, have more self-awareness, and if you could get over this self-manufactured conflict, I think you'd both be happier and have a more nuanced, reality-based worldview.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:08:36pm |
re: #538 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
And?
And . . .nothing.
Just mentioning it. And explanation, a bit of information. If you don't want it, ignore.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:08:42pm |
re: #526 b_sharp
Your parents having sex on the kitchen table.
A little boy was having trouble sleeping one night and went to his parents' room for comfort. Opening the door, he walked in on his mom riding his dad. Thinking quickly, she informed the little boy that Daddy was fat and that she had to sit on his stomach to get it to go down. He replied, "Don't bother, Mom. While you're at work, the post office lady comes over and blows it back up again."
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:12:06pm |
re: #541 Renaissance_Man
That, and because you are self-aware enough to sense when your worldview is built on shaky ground, and your uncertainty shows. That uncertainty is like a heady bucket of chum on the internet. However, it tells me something good - that you know when your opinions are poorly grounded, and you don't like it; you want your beliefs to be based in facts, but you value 'team loyalty' so much that you feel like changing your opinions based on facts might somehow be showing disloyalty. This conflict is what drives that uncertainty, from what I see.
There are other posters here, like lostlakehiker, who make a regular habit of dropping opinions not based in fact and acting like they are, even when called on it. But they never show uncertainty, because no amount of contrary facts will ever shake their beliefs. There is no point in arguing or piling on these types. You, on the other hand, have more self-awareness, and if you could get over this self-manufactured conflict, I think you'd both be happier and have a more nuanced, reality-based worldview.
The last 10 years have caused a lot of us (well, me) to re-examine my concepts of the world more than once.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:12:29pm |
re: #522 jaunte
Is this the Saturday Night pile-on?
HaHa
I guess multiculturalism is a hot button word this week...A stalker blog gave D_F front page billing...Those guys are nuts...They are the ultimate Internet Peanut Gallery
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:12:48pm |
re: #542 reine.de.tout
And . . .nothing.
Just mentioning it. And explanation, a bit of information. If you don't want it, ignore.
I don't have any reason to ignore explaining away his disagreement with insults, so post them or don't.
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Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:13:30pm |
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jaunte Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:14:11pm |
re: #545 HoosierHoops
They really need to expand their hobbies a bit;, go fishing, or take a hike.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:14:42pm |
re: #548 jaunte
They really need to expand their hobbies a bit;, go fishing, or take a hike.
You know, if more people took this advice, Internet trolling as we know it would cease to exist.
That day can't come soon enough.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:14:54pm |
re: #548 jaunte
They really need to expand their hobbies a bit;, go fishing, or take a hike.
Read a book. Take a shower. Go to the bathroom. Make a sandwich.
//
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:15:46pm |
re: #535 ggt
I am so freaking tired. Been up since 6am and didn't have one, not one!, nap today.
I had the plumber and the tow truck guy arrive at the same time. Glad it's over.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:16:47pm |
re: #543 thedopefishlives
A little boy was having trouble sleeping one night and went to his parents' room for comfort. Opening the door, he walked in on his mom riding his dad. Thinking quickly, she informed the little boy that Daddy was fat and that she had to sit on his stomach to get it to go down. He replied, "Don't bother, Mom. While you're at work, the post office lady comes over and blows it back up again."
There's a short story where people suddenly gain the ability to 'hear' what animals are thinking, with devastating results. At one point, a woman learns her husband is cheating on her, because the cat is resentfully thinking that she's not allowed on the bed, but he lets that woman with the red fur on it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:17:24pm |
re: #536 Decatur Deb
All Orly Taitz threads are OT.
Did I read in Pages she got yet another legal smackdown?
Orly Taitz....rotfl
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Kragar Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:17:25pm |
re: #545 HoosierHoops
HaHa
I guess multiculturalism is a hot button word this week...A stalker blog gave D_F front page billing...Those guys are nuts...They are the ultimate Internet Peanut Gallery
A front page for something totally irrelevant that no one will ever read?
/
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:19:13pm |
re: #546 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don't have any reason to ignore explaining away his disagreement with insults, so post them or don't.
eh?
I'm not sure what you're talking about, it seems we're having 2 different conversations. It was simply a bit of information that I thought might give you insight into his personality. If it doesn't interest you, so be it. He's not a fave of mine, anyhow.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:20:06pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:24:49pm |
Sorry, but I faded out for a time. And that means its bedtime for me.
Goodnight, all.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:25:02pm |
Interesting map...
Then as Now — New York’s Shifting Ethnic Mosaic
I was going to make a point about this but though I would pass on babbling again.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:28:06pm |
re: #555 reine.de.tout
I'm not sure what you're talking about, it seems we're having 2 different conversations. It was simply a bit of information that I thought might give you insight into his personality. If it doesn't interest you, so be it. He's not a fave of mine, anyhow.
We've been talking about dealing with disagreements of various kinds, stemming from this multiculturalism flap.
It will pass.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:31:39pm |
re: #558 Gus 802
Interesting map...
Then as Now — New York’s Shifting Ethnic Mosaic
I was going to make a point about this but though I would pass on babbling again.
Such an amazing city. I used to work out of Manhattan, on and off.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:31:47pm |
Time for me to pass-out.
I leave you all with this. Something I found is think is particularly wonderful.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:31:55pm |
re: #548 jaunte
They really need to expand their hobbies a bit;, go fishing, or take a hike.
It's pathetic really...Every blog I have left.. I have left..They hang on every word here and blog about it among themselves...And they are so angry and vicious with their comments you almost have to check in to see how you are being smeared on the Internet... Every so often I get a page about something I've said..A couple years ago it used to bother me and the insults were stinging..But it's important to take criticism in stride and become a better more rounded poster..I mean..I've come along way since the first post I every blogged at firedoglake years ago...My first nick was NapaValleyHomer... Damn that got me hooked on blogging..I've almost hit the 30,000 mark here...I am amazed of what I have learned here..
/Yes Stalkers..you can quote me..
I subscribe to LGF and damn proud of it
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:33:37pm |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Just so you know: Not every person who gets upset with you does it because they hate you or something. I happen to think that you're basically a decent guy who wants to do the right thing, but sometimes...
Well, let's just say that if you sometimes speak from emotion, then don't be surprised when some of us react with equal (or more) emotion.
I know I'm one of the people who has blasted you on a couple of occasions, but keep in mind that if I didn't like you, if I didn't give a hairy rat's ass about you, I wouldn't give a damn what you think or say. I would simply freeze you out as if you didn't exist, as I've done with a couple of people here.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:35:20pm |
re: #557 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, but I faded out for a time. And that means its bedtime for me.
Goodnight, all.
Oh, well. Maybe you'll see my response later. G'nite.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:38:54pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:39:10pm |
re: #303 albusteve
speakers who cannot speak English well enough to be understood...you can pigeonhole them all you want into your prized subcultures...to most people they are appear to be simply people that can't speak English worth a shit...it's far less complicated than you need to make it
Glad you cleared that there up for us, Henry Higgins. Downdinged because it takes Rex Harrison to make that opinion sound charming.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:40:28pm |
re: #566 The Ghost of a Flea
Glad you cleared that there up for us, Henry Higgins. Downdinged because it takes Rex Harrison to make that opinion sound charming.
Just yew waite, Enry Iggins.
Sad thing is I'm out of wine. :(
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:40:31pm |
re: #551 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I had the plumber and the tow truck guy arrive at the same time. Glad it's over.
A double dose of plumber-butt.
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Gus Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:40:45pm |
re: #560 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Such an amazing city. I used to work out of Manhattan, on and off.
We lived in Brooklyn up until I was 8 years old. More or less.
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b_sharp Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:42:16pm |
re: #559 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
We've been talking about dealing with disagreements of various kinds, stemming from this multiculturalism flap.
It will pass.
As will the corn-on-the-cob I had for supper.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:47:35pm |
re: #569 Gus 802
We lived in Brooklyn up until I was 8 years old. More or less.
When I was jet-setting, I used to date someone in Borough Park. Super-interesting trips. That's my extent of knowledge of Brooklyn, though.
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jvic Sat, Jul 30, 2011 9:53:26pm |
1. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy's definition of multiculturalism, to which someone linked previously, captures exactly what I perceive as nonviable about that concept:
Multiculturalism is a body of thought in political philosophy about the proper way to respond to cultural and religious diversity. Mere toleration of group differences is said to fall short of treating members of minority groups as equal citizens; recognition and positive accommodation of group differences are required...[boldface mine]
Color me very skeptical. Such an "ecosystem" is begging for predation. What are the stabilizing and corrective mechanisms?
2. I grant that the multiculturalism concept addresses a legitimate issue that will not disappear unless today's technology-based civilizations stagnate or collapse (or unless a global hegemony reappears).
Unfortunately, I do not view the multicultural model as viable. The "positive accommodation of group differences" strikes me as reminiscent of, but even less realistic than, the injunctions of the early Haight-Ashbury hippies to "do your own thing".
3. re: #483 Renaissance_Man
And that's the really scary thing - information and facts that contradict what we've long believed.
Afaic there is typically not enough information to distinguish between fundamentally differing points of view. There are too many plausible interpretations of too few facts; and even those "few" facts may be too many for a single individual to integrate. Not to mention spinning, disinformation and the like. How scary that is depends on how ruthless the holders of opposing views are prepared to be to impose those views.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Jul 30, 2011 10:26:55pm |
re: #573 jvic
1. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy's definition of multiculturalism, to which someone linked previously, captures exactly what I perceive as nonviable about that concept:
Assuming the Stanford/plato definition is the best one (I'm not convinced of that; it's one of many) I agree with your conclusion about so-called "multiculturalism" but from a much different perspective.
In my view, I wouldn't take umbrage with the idea of requiring positive accommodation of group differences, because to me the entire concept is a joke. It's not really a goal.
Nina Simone expressed it best in the heat of the Civil Rights movement in "Mississippi Goddamn" (1964)
You don't have to live next to me,
Just give me my equality
This is why many of us abandoned "multiculturalism", whatever that was supposed to be, some time in the early 90s. Positive accommodation or validation or recognition, especially when it's not in coming from certain groups, is a fool's goal. It's like trying to board a sinking ship that's intent on sending you directly to 3rd class, anyway.
It does amuse me, though -- except in the cases of the far right where they get violent and kill over perceived "multiculturalism" -- to watch the handwringing about the supposedly imminent end of the West.
In America, the west shows no signs of decline, post-Civil Rights. Just the opposite.
How scary that is depends on how ruthless the holders of opposing views are prepared to be to impose those views.
There is nothing scary about someone, no matter how ruthless, with opposing views. Anyone from a numerical minority tradition of any kind understands this, as opposition to one's views is the default.
What I don't want a return to is the type of society where homogeneity is required and ruthlessly imposed. Some like Breivik will kill his own people to get it.
We're not going back there again. That level of suppression only led to revolt.
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