Breaking: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Suspended Indefinitely, Fined $5M (Update: $2.5M)

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And the other shoe drops…

UPDATE at 4/29/14 11:25:14 am

The latest news: that $5M fine has turned into $2.5M, because this is apparently the maximum fine allowed under NBA rules.

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269 comments
1 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:13:34am

The part of me that is glad to see a racist and misogynist get his comeuppance, is tempered by the part of me that realizes this jackass will still make millions of dollars a year from the team.

2 b.d.  Apr 29, 2014 11:13:57am

Me: Hey boss. I would like an indefinite suspension, with pay, from my $50 million dollar a year job so I can f*ck around a bit.

Boss: I’m afraid I’m going to have to fine you $5 million, I hope you’ve learned a valuable lesson.

(from downstairs)

3 Minor_L  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:08am

Well, obviously Silver and the NBA are the real racists here.

4 freetoken  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:13am

Copying myself from downstairs:

Carmax says it is ending LA Clippers sponsorship

Sterling is now bad for NBA business.

Previously, Sterling was good for NBA business.

I find it hard to believe that NBA owners don’t know each other well enough to get a good idea of what goes on in each team’s owner’s doings.

5 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:22am

$5 million is chump change to Donald Sterling.

6 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:28am

The crickets on this issue have said an awful lot.

It’s been educational.

7 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:35am

He’ll just have his maid dig it out of the couch cushions.

8 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:14:54am

First, they came for the rich racist NBA owners …
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9 Minor_L  Apr 29, 2014 11:15:03am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Someone on Twitter said that it was comparable to a $102 fine on someone who makes the median income, which is a little under $40K/year.

10 Testy Toad T  Apr 29, 2014 11:15:06am

He’s been well-known to anyone paying attention as a disgusting racist dirtbag for many, many years. It’s pathetic that the NBA was able to turn a blind eye to this until Twitter exploded, but justice delayed is something something better late than never, I guess.

11 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2014 11:16:03am

I think some time and money spent on education would be prudent but meh. The NBA can throw a big party with the money.

12 Randall Gross  Apr 29, 2014 11:16:17am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

$5 million is chump change to Donald Sterling.

Yep, and what’s worrisome is that they waited this long to act - which tells me it was about seeing effects on the NBA bottom line and not principle.

13 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 11:16:33am

So how exactly is an owner “suspended”? He can’t go to the games?

14 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:16:39am

As far as I can tell, “suspending” an owner is basically a meaningless gesture. His income from the team remains unchanged.

15 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:17:10am

Double secret probation.

16 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:17:26am

Just don’t suspend any of the Russian crime lords who own interest in NBA teams…we wouldn’t want Putin claiming the league as part of Novo Russia in order to protect his citizens.

17 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:18:06am

re: #13 Bulworth

So how exactly is an owner “suspended”? He can’t go to the games?

He can’t go to the after-parties.

18 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:18:10am
19 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:18:20am

re: #12 Randall Gross

Yep, and what’s worrisome is that they waited this long to act - which tells me it was about seeing effects on the NBA bottom line and not principle.

Exactly, they waited to see if the outrage from fans and players would have fallout financially. Now that sponsors are pulling out, the NBA has to take action, if only to stem the bleeding.

20 goddamnedfrank  Apr 29, 2014 11:18:36am

So that’s like what, 1% or so of the team’s assessed value? And what exactly does it mean to be a suspended as an owner if he still technically owns the team? It’s not like he’s going to games anymore anyway.

re: #9 Minor_L

Someone on Twitter said that it was comparable to a $102 fine on someone who makes the median income, which is a little under $40K/year.

Except the average person actually feels that $102 dollar fine, it has an impact on their budget that has to be offset elsewhere. This guy with his enormous accumulated wealth can pay $5 million without it impacting his lifestyle at all.

21 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:19:02am
22 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2014 11:19:07am

He has affluenza. Stop prosecuting him.

Leave Donny ALONE!!!

23 Testy Toad T  Apr 29, 2014 11:19:12am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

As far as I can tell, “suspending” an owner is basically a meaningless gesture. His income from the team remains unchanged.

As I understand it, he can’t attend games and cannot contact anyone working for the team.

What exactly that would mean long-term is not clear to me (ultimately, he must still be able to fire the operations staff, right?), but he’s not getting any non-financial use out of the team. Whether that matters to him much isn’t clear to me. Presumably that disgusting old husk enjoys basketball, and that’s being taken from him.

I suspect the NBA found that they had no real avenue within their bylaws to punish him with anything other than suspension and fines.

24 SpaceJesus  Apr 29, 2014 11:19:33am

LIBERAL FASCISM

25 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:19:46am
26 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:20:06am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

As far as I can tell, “suspending” an owner is basically a meaningless gesture. His income from the team remains unchanged.

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

27 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 11:20:07am

darthstar posted:

He can’t go to the after-parties.

Oh well, then, maybe it really is a punishment. /

28 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:20:20am

the punishment is not enough - racism should guarantee poverty and exclusion from our societal benefits - until he dies or changes.

In a world where black men go to jail for marijuana which hurts no one, and rich men get fined pennies for racism - which hurts everyone, America needs stronger discipline against racism and bigotry.

29 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:20:56am

re: #26 klys

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

You gotta put a little more “concern” in your posts.

30 Testy Toad T  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:00am

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

So that’s like what, 1% or so of the team’s assessed value? And what exactly does it mean to be a suspended as an owner if he still technically owns the team? It’s not like he’s going to games anymore anyway.

Link

The biggest breaking news that Silver revealed is that Sterling will not be attending playoff games in the interim.

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9:08: p.m.: Silver says due process has to play out, and that he’s not yet ready to discuss sanctions for Donald Sterling. But he said they will move fast and Sterling has agreed not to attend the Clippers playoff game on Sunday.

31 b.d.  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:04am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I’ll wait to see what CNN tells me, so I can know what story not to believe.

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32 SpaceJesus  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:14am

No good progressive fascists have managed to silence another good ol’ boy just speaking his mind. RIP America

33 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:27am

re: #29 Targetpractice

You gotta put a little more “concern” in your posts.

It’s actually a very depressing worldview to try to emulate. I think I’m done with that.

34 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:28am

noah rothman will write an article claiming that punishing racism is immoral.

35 b.d.  Apr 29, 2014 11:21:51am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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If you are banned for life then why would you pay the $2,500,000.00?

36 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:22:01am

His net worth is $1.9B. This is a $5M fine. If my math is correct, this is equivalent to approximately a $200 fine to someone that makes $75K/year

37 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:22:19am
38 goddamnedfrank  Apr 29, 2014 11:22:30am

re: #30 Testy Toad T

Link

He’s not attending games anyway. People’d be tossing soda’s ‘n shit at him if he did.

39 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:22:37am

He can’t go see the games live? That is his punishment?

Fuck, I’ve been punished for 40 years then. Where is my restitution?
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40 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:23:07am

re: #26 klys

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

Jesus, that was pitch perfect.

41 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:23:39am

re: #39 Kragar

He can’t go see the games live? That is his punishment?

Fuck, I’ve been punished for 40 years then. Where is my restitution?
/

here have a white macadamia nut cookie. i hope it salves those wounds.

42 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:23:46am
43 SpaceJesus  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:03am

They should impose some sort of charity service on him. Make him go work every weekend as a volunteer in a poor neighborhood for an entire year or two.

44 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:09am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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I’m a bit confused. They upgraded “suspended indefinitely” to “banned for life”?

45 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:11am

re: #41 palmerskiss

here have a white macadamia nut cookie. i hope it salves those wounds.

Does it have the white chocolate chips?

46 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:26am

So does “banned for life” mean “you have to sell the team”? I’m a little fuzzy on that.

47 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:30am

re: #26 klys

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

made me redoubt for a second, i think that means it worked.

48 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:24:59am

The owners of the NBA have agreed in advance to punish each other only with tiny little hammers.

49 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:25:31am

re: #46 Mattand

So does “banned for life” mean “you have to sell the team”? I’m a little fuzzy on that.

no it means you can own the team but have to pretend you do not.

50 Testy Toad T  Apr 29, 2014 11:25:56am

re: #48 jaunte

The owners of the NBA have agreed in advance to punish each other only with tiny little hammers.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the maximum fine dates back to 1960 or something, when that was a shit-ton of money and teams weren’t worth a billion apiece.

51 Gus  Apr 29, 2014 11:25:59am

“Fined $2.5M, the maximum amount allowed.”

52 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:26:03am

re: #43 SpaceJesus

They should impose some sort of charity service on him. Make him go work every weekend as a volunteer in a poor neighborhood for an entire year or two.

I’d make him go stand on a corner of a predominately black neighborhood wearing a sandwich board reading “I’m the guy who owns the Clippers.”

53 Gus  Apr 29, 2014 11:26:57am
54 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:27:20am
55 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:27:26am

re: #53 Gus

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This sets a troubling precedent.

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56 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:27:54am

WTF?

57 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:28:45am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

WTF?

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such violent fantasies…. always their logical crutch.

58 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 11:28:54am

“Corrected: the fine against Donald Sterling is $2.5 million. Commissioner wanted $5 but $2.5 is the max.
@thereidreport
@msnbc
— Joy Reid”

The owners, who make the rules, wanted to be sure they couldn’t get penalized too much.

Silver: I’m gonna fine him eleventy million dollars!
Legal Assistant: Uh, you can’t. The owners capped their penalties at 2.5 mill.
Silver: If I can’t fine owners eleventy million, WTF good is this job anyway?

59 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:29:40am

re: #58 Bulworth

“Corrected: the fine against Donald Sterling is $2.5 million. Commissioner wanted $5 but $2.5 is the max.
@thereidreport
@msnbc
— Joy Reid”

The owners, who make the rules, wanted to be sure they couldn’t get penalized too much.

Silver: I’m gonna fine him eleventy million dollars!
Legal Assistant: Uh, you can’t. The owners capped their penalties at 2.5 mill.
Silver: If I can’t fine owners eleventy million, WTF good is this job anyway?

Patients running the asylum.

60 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 11:30:14am
61 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:30:30am

The words “professional” and “sports” show once again why they never belong together.

62 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:30:31am

re: #54 jaunte

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Think of all the hookers and burning crosses $1 billion can buy.

63 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 11:30:35am

re: #26 klys

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

Boils down to the same debate points with the CEO resigning over making donations to supporting Prop 8. Owner of the team is also essentially a visible symbol and representative of the entire NBA. Therefore, his actions and words will draw greater scrutiny.

64 Gus  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:05am

re: #54 jaunte

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Regardless of what he said or what we think of him he is legally entitled to whatever profits he may incur from the sale of his team. We don’t make special rules for situations like this.

65 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:14am

re: #63 Feline Fearless Leader

Boils down to the same debate points with the CEO resigning over making donations to supporting Prop 8. Owner of the team is also essentially a visible symbol and representative of the entire NBA. Therefore, his actions and words will draw greater scrutiny.

>.>

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

>.>

66 CuriousLurker  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:20am

re: #55 Targetpractice

This sets a troubling precedent.

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Slippery slope! //

67 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:32am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

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Because brains.

68 b.d.  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:32am

Donald Sterling is 80 , suspend him for 30 years.re: #58 Bulworth

“Corrected: the fine against Donald Sterling is $2.5 million. Commissioner wanted $5 but $2.5 is the max.
@thereidreport
@msnbc
— Joy Reid”

The owners, who make the rules, wanted to be sure they couldn’t get penalized too much.

Silver: I’m gonna fine him eleventy million dollars!
Legal Assistant: Uh, you can’t. The owners capped their penalties at 2.5 mill.
Silver: If I can’t fine owners eleventy million, WTF good is this job anyway?

CINO, commissioner in name only.

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69 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:49am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

WTF?

A public stoning WOULD be appropriate according to Biblical Law.

70 Gus  Apr 29, 2014 11:31:50am
71 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:32:23am

re: #64 Gus

Sure. He’s in a position where financial penalties are not significant.

72 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:32:43am

re: #64 Gus

Regardless of what he said or what we think of him he is legally entitled to whatever profits he may incur from the sale of his team. We don’t make special rules for situations like this.

that may be the case - but decency dictates that we as a society do not allow full benefits of said society to go to those who endanger, and damage groups of millions of people in this country.

he should get his billion, as we show him the door to our collective cultural consciousness.

73 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:32:48am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

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An idea isn’t much good to a person who lacks the resources to make it a reality. Likewise having money doesn’t always make an idea a good one. Companies bring out new “ideas” all the time, and not all of them succeed.

74 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 11:32:54am

re: #54 jaunte

I guess his punishment is having to pay the capital gains tax on all that profit.
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75 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:33:21am

re: #55 Targetpractice

This sets a troubling precedent.

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re: #66 CuriousLurker

Slippery slope! //

I’m surprised we haven’t seen that brigade march through here by now.

76 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:33:45am

re: #75 Mattand

I’m surprised we haven’t seen that brigade march through here by now.

He’s waiting for the usual suspects to voice their “outrage.”

77 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:33:45am

He’ll have to suffer through being the new conservative hero of the week.

78 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2014 11:33:49am

re: #13 Bulworth

So how exactly is an owner “suspended”? He can’t go to the games?

He is not allowed to bring any white people.

/

79 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:34:31am

the clippers also highlight why a relegation/promotion system is needed in the american sports worlds.

80 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:34:34am

Fox news comments:

81 kirkspencer  Apr 29, 2014 11:35:11am

For what little comfort there is, it’s a strike to his ego.

Digressing, what he did was wrong but NOT ILLEGAL. (Gah, I hate saying those words.) It is not illegal to be a racist. It is sometimes not illegal to make derogatory remarks based on race.

It’s illegal to make decisions that impact other’s lives (employment, places to live, provision of medical services, etc) based on race. As far as we know, however, that’s not in play here.

His racist behavior is in conflict with stated ideals, intents, and regulations of the NBA. And for that he can be punished in accordance with those same regulations. Thus the $2.5 million fine, thus the banning, which are the maximum allowed.

But let’s also keep in mind that owning a team isn’t really about the money. Yes, it makes money, but that’s not the big deal. The big deal is the ego: “I own a professional sports team.” It’s a bonfire of the vanities situation, and that will hurt him.

Not as much as most of us believe it should, but more than some are giving credence.

82 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 11:35:30am

Actually I just did think of a “rags to riches” success story, Ben Carson. HE WENT TO DETROIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS. But wingnuts would deny others the opportunities that he enjoyed.

83 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:35:54am

re: #80 jaunte

Fox news comments:
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I’m actually wondering which wingnut pundit will be the first to propose a boycott of the NBA until Sterling’s slap on the wrist is overturned.

84 allegro  Apr 29, 2014 11:35:57am

re: #54 jaunte

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Oh yeah, THAT’ll show him!!

85 freetoken  Apr 29, 2014 11:35:58am

re: #54 jaunte

Capital gains, no? Lower tax rate.

86 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:36:15am

re: #82 Pie-onist Overlord

Actually I just did think of a “rags to riches” success story, Ben Carson. HE WENT TO DETROIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS. But wingnuts would deny others the opportunities that he enjoyed.

Ben Carson was supporting Cliven Bundy.

87 kirkspencer  Apr 29, 2014 11:36:37am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

brains without money tends to go nowhere. There are exceptions, mind, but that’s why they’re called exceptions.

88 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:36:42am

Silver just said he expects to get the support needed from the other owners to remove Sterling as head of the Clippers.

89 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 11:36:51am

re: #83 Targetpractice

I’m actually wondering which wingnut pundit will be the first to propose a boycott of the NBA until Sterling’s slap on the wrist is overturned.

Silence, you LIEberal!

90 freetoken  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:04am

re: #86 palmerskiss

Ben Carson, another God-talker.

See the trend?

91 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:15am

re: #80 jaunte

Fox news comments:
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Waht, waht, waaaaht??? How can Sterling be a “True American” if he’s a hardcore librul and Democratic fundraiser?!?

92 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:18am

I tell ya, this is just more proof of how hard it is to be a rich, bigoted white guy in America these days…you cannot shoot your mouth off with impunity and still just get richer from it…

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93 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:44am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Silver just said he expects to get the support needed from the other owners to remove him as head of the Clippers.

Apparently the good Commissioner hasn’t caught up with Mark Cuban yet.

94 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:48am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

Waht, waht, waaaaht??? How can Sterling be a “True American” if he’s a hardcore librul and Democratic fundraiser?!?

Because shut up.

95 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 11:37:59am

“Fox news comments:”

Yeah but didn’t Drudge tell us Confirmed. FACT. that Sterling was a Democrat Party? //

96 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:38:02am

re: #90 freetoken

Ben Carson, another God-talker.

See the trend?

i did the moment i saw a black republican with the last name “cain”

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 11:38:10am

re: #86 palmerskiss

Ben Carson was supporting Cliven Bundy.

Ben Carson is kind of an autistic savant. A brilliant neurosurgeon, but backward in everything else.

98 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 29, 2014 11:38:29am

just reading online comments like Yahoo and others makes me sad that so many have so little knowledge of the First Amendment. Most seem to be right wingers that think that disagreeing with the NBA means his “Rights” were violated, and have no idea that Free Speech does not apply for private companies.

Yet these same people when asked if they would fire someone who stood up and said “Vote Obama!” and “Let’s pass Federal Gun Control laws applicable in every state and city!” they go silent at best.

99 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 11:39:47am

re: #95 Bulworth

“Fox news comments:”

Yeah but didn’t Drudge tell us Confirmed. FACT. that Sterling was a Democrat Party? //

You just wish you could point the nuts at each other on these silly arguments and allow them to mutually annihilate each other - if it happened quickly and silently.

100 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:39:53am

If he’s forced to sell the Clippers, he’ll make a huge amount of money - something like $700M. He paid about $30M.

101 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:40:05am

re: #93 Mattand

Apparently the good Commissioner hasn’t caught up with Mark Cuban yet.

Apparently Mark Cuban hasn’t caught up with Mark Cuban.

102 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:40:05am
103 b.d.  Apr 29, 2014 11:41:02am

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Can we impose some sort of new tax real quick?

104 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 11:41:22am

re: #102 Dr. Matt

Actually it’s an Obama plot to force Sterling to sell so that the gained profit on the team can then by taxed by the Federal government in order to fund enhanced Obama Phone deployment.
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105 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:41:32am
106 Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2014 11:41:46am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Silver just said he expects to get the support needed from the other owners to remove Sterling as head of the Clippers.

It’s really gonna grate peoples nerves when he sells them at a big profit.

107 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:41:56am

HEAT WARNING: temperatures will reach 75 in San Francisco today, residents are encouraged to ditch work and drink in a park to survive

108 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:42:38am

If they really wanted to punish Sterling, they’d say he was welcome to go to any game so long as he bought general admission tickets, in person, from a scalper in the parking lot.

109 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2014 11:42:45am

As I surmised earlier, the NBA rules probably don’t let the league strip Sterling of ownership, but the lifetime ban is what they think could force him to sell.

It’s a similar, but not identical situation, as in MLB where they forced McCourt to sell the Dodgers, or for Schott to sell the Reds.

The fine is chump change for someone like Sterling. Even if the fine was $50 million (equal to the amount he bought the team for), it would be chump change. The team is likely to be valued at or near $1 billion (with a B). He’d make roughly $950 million on his investment before selling. ***

The punishment is that he’d never be part of the group of owners that runs the NBA - one of 30 team ownership groups. That’s select company, and that’s why some of these rich folks go into owning a team - because they can claim to be part of an elite club that few can ever do.

It’s a lifetime ban, with the intent to force a sale. No participation in any team activities. Barred from attending BoG meetings or league activities.

*** I’ve now seen different valuations for how much he paid for the team, and what the team might be worth. He appears to have paid $12.5 million, and the team is worth anywhere from $575 million to $1 billion.
Sources: forbes.com

110 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:44:28am
111 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 11:44:42am

re: #109 lawhawk

As I surmised earlier, the NBA rules probably don’t let the league strip Sterling of ownership, but the lifetime ban is what they think could force him to sell.

It’s a similar, but not identical situation, as in MLB where they forced McCourt to sell the Dodgers, or for Schott to sell the Reds.

The fine is chump change for someone like Sterling. Even if the fine was $50 million (equal to the amount he bought the team for), it would be chump change. The team is likely to be valued at or near $1 billion (with a B). He’d make roughly $950 million on his investment before selling.

The punishment is that he’d never be part of the group of owners that runs the NBA - one of 30 team ownership groups. That’s select company, and that’s why some of these rich folks go into owning a team - because they can claim to be part of an elite club that few can ever do.

It’s a lifetime ban, with the intent to force a sale. No participation in any team activities. Barred from attending BoG meetings or league activities.

I presume the BoG of the NBA have veto rights on who he sells the team to?

I also have expect legal action by Sterling. I guess it depends on how Al Davis-ish he is feeling.

112 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:44:44am

re: #101 Targetpractice

Apparently Mark Cuban hasn’t caught up with Mark Cuban.

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LOL, that’s a complete 180° from his “Racists are bad but SLIPERY SLOPE, PEOPLE!” from yesterday.

113 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:44:45am

re: #103 b.d.

Can we impose some sort of new tax real quick?

That’s really not a cool idea, no matter how emotionally satisfying it would be.

I’m fine with consumers and companies using their ability to make decisions on where to spend their money in order to affect a change.

I’m not fine with using the political system to target one person.

The end result of him selling the Clippers is that he will no longer be able to say he’s a basketball team owner. Like kirkspencer said, it’s about ego. The money …eh, I’m not sure we could take away enough money for this guy to notice, really. But the loss of prestige? That’s where it’ll hurt.

114 darthstar  Apr 29, 2014 11:45:10am
115 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:45:18am
116 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:45:34am

i’m about to start a kickstarter campaign to find money and second hand clothes to help feed and clothe and house the poor clippers players now that donald sterling will not be able to do his charity work any longer.

117 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:45:35am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Silver just said he expects to get the support needed from the other owners to remove him as head of the Clippers.

The same owners who were happy to look the other way for years? No honor among thieves.

118 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:46:16am

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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119 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 11:46:40am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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CAPSLOCK

120 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:47:05am

Well, at least racism is over now.

121 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:47:15am

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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john nolte is a racist yes? that is all i need to say about that.

122 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:47:16am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

John Nolte = #butthurt

123 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2014 11:47:51am

re: #114 darthstar

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One what? A country full of suckers?

124 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 11:48:04am

Me from two threads ago>>

The NBA board of governors will pressure him to sell, going as far as even finding viable buyers. It won;t be like a private deal of selling a used car, but the deal will get done and by this time next year he’ll be a footnote (mentioned during next years NBA playoffs as an ‘on this date last year ,,,,,,”)

125 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:48:26am

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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126 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:01am

re: #125 Kragar

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Ok, I won’t lie, the second one cracked me up.

127 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:18am

re: #125 Kragar

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128 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:32am
G***AMN MEDIA

Who’s he trying to kid with those asterisks?

129 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:49am

re: #126 klys

Ok, I won’t lie, the second one cracked me up.

I “heh“‘d

130 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:50am

Sickening comment at deadspin.com

To be clear, everything Sterling said it true. NBA attendance is down because the league has an image problem.The last thing he wanted was his side piece promoting the ghetto image that is hurting NBA ticket sales. (1) players are lazy tatted up thugs who flop all over the court and don’t play hard till the playoffs and (2) white yuppies don’t want to pay $400 to take their family to a game where they have to sit next to ghetto ass black and mexican trash, like it’s a Young Jeezy concert.

You hyper-PC white-guilt idiots can deny it all you want. Fact is if all black and mexicans boycotted the NBA attendance would immediately go *up*. Nobody wants to be surrounded by them, socialize with them and definitely not live near them.

-43 yo CPA with wife, 2 kids, a golden retriever and big fan of college basketball

131 klys  Apr 29, 2014 11:49:54am

re: #128 jaunte

Who’s he trying to kid with those asterisks?

ODD people.

132 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:50:29am

re: #128 jaunte

Who’s he trying to kid with those asterisks?

god - because his god doesnt mind racism, but he hates himself some cussing.

133 jaunte  Apr 29, 2014 11:51:09am

“Lips that utter blasphemies will never touch Nolte’s.”

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 11:54:25am
135 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:54:51am

re: #130 Dr. Matt

Sickening comment at deadspin.com

Yet another wingnut asshole who just thinks he’s being “non-PC” when he’s just another bigoted asshole. Newsflash Mr. CPA, not everyone in the NBA is a “thug” and neither is everyone with a tattoo either you fucking piece of shit.

136 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:55:20am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

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snoopdogg? he means snoop lion.

137 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:55:36am

re: #134 Pie-onist Overlord

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Last I saw asshole, Snoop Dogg wasn’t encouraging racist bullshit. But thanks for playing internet’s stupidest man. Man conservatives are fucking clueless as hell about racism.

138 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:55:59am

re: #136 palmerskiss

snoopdogg? he means snoop lion.

I think he’s back to Snoop Dogg these days. Not sure but Snoop’s not a racist.

139 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:56:23am

Kareem Abdul Jabbar just gave a nice statement.

He got a raw deal yesterday from some news sites that tried to portray his article in Time as “blaming it on Sterling’s girlfriend.”

140 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:57:03am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I think he’s back to Snoop Dogg these days. Not sure but Snoop’s not a racist.

snoop is not a racist. i have absolutely no hesitance in agreeing with you.

Jim dim hoft is many many things - racist is among them

141 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:57:34am

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Kareem Abdul Jabbar just gave a nice statement.

He got a raw deal yesterday from some news sites that tried to portray his article in Time as “blaming it on Sterling’s girlfriend.”

agreed - he comported himself very well on rachel last night

142 kirkspencer  Apr 29, 2014 11:57:35am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

snicker - because if they played the audio everyone would learn the outrage is misplaced.

143 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:57:40am

salon.com
OT but thoughts? Part of me empathizes with this guy since I know how tough it is getting a job let alone a good one in the post graduation market is but another part of me thinks he’s setting up his expectations way too high by focusing only on big name publications.

144 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 11:58:02am

Snoop Dogg Response To Clippers Owner Donald Sterling

Youtube Video

145 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 11:58:04am

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Kareem Abdul Jabbar just gave a nice statement.

He got a raw deal yesterday from some news sites that tried to portray his article in Time as “blaming it on Sterling’s girlfriend.”

I need to go back and re-read that TPM article, because that’s seems to be how they were phrasing it.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 11:58:27am

re: #130 Dr. Matt

Sickening comment at deadspin.com

Deadspin and the other Gawker sites have this completely fucked-up commenting system that favors trolls and spammers over normal commenters.

147 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:58:35am

So, rather than supporting the NBA’s decision, Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro choose to attack other people rather than Donald Sterling and his comments. Gotcha

148 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:58:37am

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Kareem Abdul Jabbar just gave a nice statement.

He got a raw deal yesterday from some news sites that tried to portray his article in Time as “blaming it on Sterling’s girlfriend.”

Kareem’s an awesome guy. A true renaissance man. My old man saw him play when his high school came down here in the early 60’s.

149 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:59:03am

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Snoop Dogg Response To Clippers Owner Donald Sterling

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150 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 11:59:16am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

Deadspin and the other Gawker sites have this completely fucked-up commenting system that favors trolls and spammers over normal commenters.

same problem at mediaite - where the comment threads have pretty much turned into a klan rally

151 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 11:59:16am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

Deadspin and the other Gawker sites have this completely fucked-up commenting system that favors trolls and spammers over normal commenters.

It’s a shame too. Deadspin is one of my favorite non-political websites.

152 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 11:59:24am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

So, rather than supporting the NBA’s decision, Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro choose to attack other people rather than Donald Sterling and his comments. Gotcha

That would be because, if you really pressed them, they’d say what a lot of other wingnuts have said openly: “He’s right!”

153 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 11:59:54am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

So, rather than supporting the NBA’s decision, Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro choose to attack other people rather than Donald Sterling and his comments. Gotcha

That’s the conservative response to racism outside of “Find his party registration and who he’s donated to.” They don’t care about getting rid of racism because then they’d lose their readership and we don’t want that.

154 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 12:00:37pm

re: #147 Dr. Matt

So, rather than supporting the NBA’s decision, Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro choose to attack other people rather than Donald Sterling and his comments. Gotcha

That’s nothing. Limbaugh and the brain trust that makes up Fox News’s primetime lineup are furiously wearing their crayons down to a nub in preparing their statements.

155 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:01:11pm

re: #154 Mattand

That’s nothing. Limbaugh and the brain trust that makes up Fox News’s primetime lineup are furiously wearing their crayons down to a nub in preparing their statements.

This is Obama’s fault somehow.

156 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:01:26pm

re: #154 Mattand

That’s nothing. Limbaugh and the brain trust that makes up Fox News’s primetime lineup are furiously wearing their crayons down to a nub in preparing their statements.

the white crayons last longer -mostly because no one uses them

157 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 12:01:28pm

So @KJ_MayorJohnson says the country needs to root out racism. Does that include @SnoopDogg

Wingnut logic just continues to overwhelm us all with its unmitigated brilliance. //

158 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 12:01:50pm

MOAR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE NBA!!!!!

159 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 12:02:20pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

re: #145 Mattand

The “blaming it on his girlfriend” may be stemmed from Californias “two-party consent” law. Assuming the audio was recorded at his house in Cali (or somewhere else there) she may be in violation of that law

As I stated on an earlier thread, this is no way absolves Sterling from his vile views on minorities, both recent and in the past

160 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:02:48pm

re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE NBA!!!!!

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because it works on merit?

good gosh

161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2014 12:03:03pm

re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE NBA!!!!!

If the #NBA really wants to show it’s support for diversity why is it comprised of roughly 80% black individuals??

And what percentage of those are owners or managers?

162 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2014 12:03:06pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Kareem’s an awesome guy. A true renaissance man. My old man saw him play when his high school came down here in the early 60’s.

And he can fly a plane too.

163 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 12:03:22pm

re: #160 palmerskiss

because it works on merit?

good gosh

ALL IT TAKES IS HARD WORK, GUMPTION & A CAN-DO ATTITUDE!!!!!!

164 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:03:42pm

re: #162 lawhawk

And he can fly a plane too.

i heard he is 10 feet tall and can shoot fire from his eyes

165 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:03:55pm

re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE NBA!!!!!

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Knew they would focus on that but ignore the fact that despite the league predominately being African American, whites still comprise a majority of owners, coaches, and league officials.

166 Bulworth  Apr 29, 2014 12:04:01pm

If the #NBA really wants to show it’s support for diversity why is it comprised of roughly 80% black individuals?? #tcot
#RedNationRising
— Young Conservative

Only conservative patriots ask the really tough, thoughtful questions these days./

167 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 29, 2014 12:04:13pm

re: #24 SpaceJesus

interesting that you think a term like “Liberal Fascism” applies… when this episode involves private business associating with who they want or disassociating from who they do not want.

When actually you know- REAL Fascism, as implemented by Hitler, involves the government directly limiting and controlling speech and throwing people in prison or worse.

Curious that someone on the right wing would think that “Liberal Fascists” would be defined by actions by private business like the NBA. Free Enterprise….Isn’t that supposed to be a Conservative thing?

168 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:04:22pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

That’s the conservative response to racism outside of “Find his party registration and who he’s donated to.” They don’t care about getting rid of racism because then they’d lose their readership and we don’t want that.

Wingnuts have three automatic responses to news like this. First they instinctively look for proof that the person uttering racist bilge is a Democrat or liberal so as to pawn them off. When that fails, then they try “Yeah, he’s a racist, but…” before launching into whines about how the media is not paying attention to a story they think is more worthy of attention, and finally when those fail just decide to drop the mask and go “It’s not racist, it’s the truth!”

169 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:04:29pm

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

ALL IT TAKES IS HARD WORK, GUMPTION & A CAN-DO ATTITUDE!!!!!!

yeah but if you dont know how to pick cotton first..

170 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 12:04:31pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

The “blaming it on his girlfriend” may be stemmed from Californias “two-party consent” law. Assuming the audio was recorded at his house in Cali (or somewhere else there) she may be in violation of that law

As I stated on an earlier thread, this is no way absolves Sterling from his vile views on minorities, both recent and in the past

I just re-read the article. I think Kareem was being more tongue-in-cheek about the mistress than TPM was giving him credit for.

171 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:05:26pm

re: #162 lawhawk

And he can fly a plane too.

That’s not Kareem, that’s Roger Murdock, the co-pilot.

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172 A Mom Anon  Apr 29, 2014 12:05:36pm

re: #26 klys

Stop it, you’re scaring me. (lol)

173 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:05:45pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Wingnuts have three automatic responses to news like this. First they instinctively look for proof that the person uttering racist bilge is a Democrat or liberal so as to pawn them off. When that fails, then they try “Yeah, he’s a racist, but…” before launching into whines about how the media is either not paying attention to a story they think is more worthy of attention, and finally when those fail just decide to drop the mask and go “It’s not racist, it’s the truth!”

It’s like clock work with these jackasses. As I said, they don’t care about making racism less and less of a thing because their careers thrive because of it.

174 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 12:05:54pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And what percentage of those are owners or managers?

About 1/3rd of current NBA coaches are African American

Assistant coaching rank numbers are even higher

GM’s are about 1/4

175 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 12:06:40pm

re: #162 lawhawk

And he can fly a plane too.

Roger, Roger.

176 klys  Apr 29, 2014 12:06:42pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

Unless, as she alleges, the recordings were done with his permission because his memory is failing and being able to listen to them helped.

It’s still something of a he-said/she-said, but reports are that people who have heard the whole thing say he knew he was being recorded.

177 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 12:06:54pm

re: #170 Mattand

I just re-read the article. I think Kareem was being more tongue-in-cheek about the mistress than TPM was giving him credit for.

Yes, but I was speaking more in general of the “blame the girlfriend” sentiment

178 dog philosopher  Apr 29, 2014 12:07:24pm

If the #NBA really wants to show it’s support for diversity why is it comprised of roughly 80% black individuals?? #tcot

because it hires players based strictly on merit next question thank you

179 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2014 12:07:52pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

NBA is actually one of the most diverse of the leagues in leadership positions (coaches, GMs, executives, and the league office).

usatoday30.usatoday.com

180 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 12:08:17pm

re: #175 Mattand

Roger, Roger.

We have clearance, Clarence.

181 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 12:08:24pm

re: #162 lawhawk

re: #171 Targetpractice

The hell I don’t! LISTEN, KID! I’ve been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I’m out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

182 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:09:03pm

re: #178 dog philosopher

If the #NBA really wants to show it’s support for diversity why is it comprised of roughly 80% black individuals?? #tcot

because it hires players based strictly on merit next question thank you

the irony is - the ownership structure, and league structure so many conservatives support is actually a form of collectivism.

the players get there by merit - but the owners are protected by “marxism”

irony and a half

183 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 29, 2014 12:09:07pm

THIS HERE’S MY PATSEY, QUEEN OF THE FIELDS!!!!

184 Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2014 12:10:15pm

Ding ding ding. Shiplord nails it.

185 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:10:25pm

re: #183 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS HERE’S MY PATSEY, QUEEN OF THE FIELDS!!!!

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Is that one of his militia buddies or one of those Hispanics he loves so much because they work for cheap?

186 blueraven  Apr 29, 2014 12:10:52pm

re: #167 Rocky-in-Connecticut

interesting that you think a term like “Liberal Fascism” applies… when this episode involves private business associating with who they want or disassociating from who they do not want.

When actually you know- REAL Fascism, as implemented by Hitler, involves the government directly limiting and controlling speech and throwing people in prison or worse.

Curious that someone on the right wing would think that “Liberal Fascists” would be defined by actions by private business like the NBA. Free Enterprise….Isn’t that supposed to be a Conservative thing?

I think spacejesus was expressing sarcasm…as in, that will be the view of some right wingers, following the logic of Jonah Goldberg’s ridiculous book.

187 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 12:11:44pm

re: #183 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS HERE’S MY PATSEY, QUEEN OF THE FIELDS!!!!

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188 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 12:12:01pm

re: #180 Varek Raith

We have clearance, Clarence.

I have reasons to hate that entire bit.

189 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:12:41pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

Is that one of his militia buddies or one of those Hispanics he loves so much because they work for cheap?

No idea but I want to know how the hell they think he was taken out of context. He made his bigotry pretty clear to the point where Sean Hannity felt the need to run away from him so no Mr. Idiot Wingnut it’s not “typical liberal stupidity” it’s more “typical conservative says bigoted bullshit and other typical conservatives want to blame the left for bigotry of said conservative because conservatives are tone deaf morons on the subject of racism.”

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 12:15:34pm

Sterling controversy is a false flag operation to distract media coverage while Holder and Obama obliterate the Bundy Ranch with a drone strike.

191 sattv4u2  Apr 29, 2014 12:15:50pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

Is that one of his militia buddies or one of those Hispanics he loves so much because they work for cheap?

theroot.com

His “bodyguard”

192 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2014 12:16:18pm

re: #170 Mattand

I just re-read the article. I think Kareem was being more tongue-in-cheek about the mistress than TPM was giving him credit for.

I think his point was that it was kind of a sleazy trick, regardless of the racism angle. And I agree - after listening to it I felt like I needed a shower. And it may have been illegal.

But he certainly didn’t give Sterling a pass, and he was not trying to excuse Sterling with this point.

193 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:16:31pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

No idea but I want to know how the hell they think he was taken out of context. He made his bigotry pretty clear to the point where Sean Hannity felt the need to run away from him so no Mr. Idiot Wingnut it’s not “typical liberal stupidity” it’s more “typical conservative says bigoted bullshit and other typical conservatives want to blame the left for bigotry of said conservative because conservatives are tone deaf morons on the subject of racism.”

The comments in context only sounded worse, which is why even Hannity gave it up. And even if the initial comments were agreeable “in context,” the press conference and press interviews pretty much wiped away any deniability. This picture isn’t about “context,” it’s the visual equivalent of saying “Some of my best friends are black.”

194 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:17:15pm

re: #191 sattv4u2

theroot.com

His “bodyguard”

Does he keep another guy around as his official food taster?

195 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:17:33pm

re: #193 Targetpractice

The comments in context only sounded worse, which is why even Hannity gave it up. And even if the initial comments were agreeable “in context,” the press conference and press interviews pretty much wiped away any deniability. This picture isn’t about “context,” it’s the visual equivalent of saying “Some of my best friends are black.”

using other peoples race to inoculate one’s-self from racism is in fact racism.

196 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2014 12:18:04pm

re: #26 klys

But hey, people think they’re doing something about it now.

And really, free speech! These were just his private views, after all. There’s no reason this should impact the team, and people absolutely should still continue to spend their money on things that will benefit him directly, because I’m sure there’s a racist working as a janitor or something. Instead we’re just seeing Twitter mob rule and it’s sad to see the NBA bowing to the pressure of political correctness, although I can totally understand why they do so because they’re in the business to make money, not stand up for free speech.

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How’d I do?

Not bad…. you could try for a few random capitalized words and a creative “ironic” misspelling, but totally believable. You can rant to it, I give it a 90 out of 100.

RBS

197 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:20:04pm

hmmmm lol.

198 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 29, 2014 12:21:44pm
199 blueraven  Apr 29, 2014 12:22:27pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

I think his point was that it was kind of a sleazy trick, regardless of the racism angle. And I agree - after listening to it I felt like I needed a shower. And it may have been illegal.

But he certainly didn’t give Sterling a pass, and he was not trying to excuse Sterling with this point.

He was also pointing out that it shouldn’t take such an underhanded tactic to know Sterling was a raging racist. It is all over his history yet nothing was said or done until now.

200 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 12:22:45pm

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

I have reasons to hate that entire bit.

Them’s fightin words.
Youtube Video

201 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2014 12:23:14pm

re: #164 palmerskiss

i heard he is 10 feet tall and can shoot fire from his eyes

I heard he’s actually The Stig.

RBS

202 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 29, 2014 12:24:19pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Blame the media!

203 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:24:36pm

re: #201 RealityBasedSteve

I heard he’s actually The Stig.

RBS

I am the stig, well i was until i wrote a book about it.

204 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:25:02pm

re: #197 palmerskiss

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hmmmm lol.

Ronald Reagan ran on change too dumb fuck.

205 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:25:36pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Ronald Reagan ran on change too dumb fuck.

and so did Jefferson davis.

206 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2014 12:25:46pm

All the arguments that “What he said in private isn’t meaningful…. after all, he was going to get an award from the NAACP” is just crap in my mind. The measure of a man is how he behaves when he thinks nobody is watching. As I’ve been taught, “A good man who is bad to the waiter, isn’t a good man”.

RBS

207 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 12:26:21pm

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

Fox News sends reporter to ask NBA if punishing racists is a ‘slippery slope’

Jo Ling Kent, a reporter for Megyn Kelly’s Fox News show, was the first and possibly only voice offering a defense for Donald Sterling at Tuesday’s NBA press conference by asking the commissioner if it was a “slippery slope” to punish him for racist comments.

208 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2014 12:27:03pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

Lol, idiots.

209 dog philosopher  Apr 29, 2014 12:27:25pm

re: #199 blueraven

He was also pointing out that it shouldn’t take such an underhanded tactic to know Sterling was a raging racist. It is all over his history yet nothing was said or done until now.

the point was put clearly to silver at the news conference and my interpretation of the subtext of his answer was “hey, i know right? but what can i say, the league & me avoided dealing with it as long as possible”

210 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:27:52pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

megyn kelly really is turning into quite the ‘white knight’ rushing in to protect ‘white jesus’ and ‘white santa’ and santorum.

why am i parsing my words? she is proving herself quite comfortable with racism.

211 dog philosopher  Apr 29, 2014 12:28:02pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Ronald Reagan ran on change too dumb fuck.

spare change for those making less than a mil a year

212 Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2014 12:28:24pm
213 Lidane  Apr 29, 2014 12:30:05pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Nolte’s brain, since it’s clearly never been touched. :p

214 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:30:26pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

What I would like to ask is where the hell do you draw the line.

215 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:31:27pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

What I would like to ask is where the hell do you draw the line.

how about - we draw the line at bigotry - if you do it - you get whacked - if you dont - you dont.

now i feel like a rocket scientist.

216 Mattand  Apr 29, 2014 12:31:32pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

I’ll give Fox News this much: they know their audience, right down to the “First, they came for the racists” bullshit.

217 Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2014 12:31:56pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

What I would like to ask is where the hell do you draw the line.

When you think they hit rock bottom, they find yet another new low to sink to.

218 Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2014 12:32:44pm
219 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:34:15pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

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good - player power

220 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 12:34:18pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

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I can’t blame them. You don’t get to talk the way Sterling did and not get punished somehow.

221 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 29, 2014 12:38:23pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

A slippery slope?
Obviously, the NBA is just looking for excuses to get rid of the owners, possibly so Obama and his cronies can nationalize the league and advance their socialist agenda. //

222 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 12:39:43pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

A slippery slope?
Obviously, the NBA is just looking for excuses to get rid of the owners, possibly so Obama and his cronies can nationalize the league and advance their socialist agenda. //

hmm - no chance of relegation, guaranteed t.v. ratings, draft picks, etc etc

is not the league already quite ‘socialist’?

223 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 12:40:04pm

So, bottom line is that Sterling gets off dirt cheap and with no real dent in his fortune and others will just take care of his business (at age 80, it’s what’s he does anyway).

Watch the RWNJs double down now.

224 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 29, 2014 12:41:18pm
225 Lidane  Apr 29, 2014 12:43:26pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

I’m guessing that included the Clippers. They made their feelings pretty clear the other day.

Sterling will come out of this richer than ever. He might even snag a key spot at CPAC next year for his troubles.

226 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 12:47:56pm

Shooting at FedEx in Kennesaw, Ga., April 29, 2014
3m
Police: Gunman at Georgia FedEx location had explosive devices but they weren’t used - @AP
end of alert

227 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 12:49:39pm

Meanwhile…

228 bratwurst  Apr 29, 2014 12:52:18pm

re: #207 Dr. Matt

Fox News joins Jim Hoft, John Nolte, and Ben Shapiro:

As I said the other day, these people buzz around racist comments the same way flies buzz around shit. It’s positively pathological.

229 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 12:53:37pm

re: #228 bratwurst

As I said the other day, these people buzz around racist comments the same way flies buzz around shit. It’s positively pathological.

And they always employ the same arguments at virtually the same time. In this case, the “slippery slope,” one of the most intellectually lazy arguments one can make.

230 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2014 12:53:41pm

For the record, it will take the votes of 75% of NBA team owners to move forward with forcing Sterling to sell.

I don’t think Silver will have the slightest problem getting at least 3/4 on board No one wants to be seen as giving tacit approval to a racist. Cuban and the Knicks’ Jim Dolan are already on record saying they’ll vote to oust Sterling.

And as with everything else, this story comes with its own conspiracy theory. I belong to an NBA message board, and some are saying that this is all a setup to help Magic Johnson buy the team.

Johnson was mentioned in the original story, and yesterday he publicly expressed an interest in buying the team.

Make of it what you will.

231 Internet Tough Guy  Apr 29, 2014 12:56:05pm

re: #224 NJDhockeyfan

Obviously, this means he wasn’t racist.
/

232 klys  Apr 29, 2014 12:56:20pm

re: #230 makeitstop

For the record, it will take the votes of 75% of NBA team owners to move forward with forcing Sterling to sell.

I don’t think Silver will have the lightest problem getting at least 3/4 on board No one wants to be seen as giving tacit approval to a racist. Cuban and the Knicks’ Jim Dolan are already on record saying they’ll vote to out Sterling.

And as with everything else, this story comes with its own conspiracy theory. I belong to an NBA message board, and some are saying that this is all a setup to help Magic Johnson buy the team.

Johnson was mentioned in the original story, and yesterday he publicly expressed an interest in buying the team.

Make of it what you will.

Magic Johnson denies he wants to buy Clippers

233 NJDhockeyfan  Apr 29, 2014 12:57:44pm
234 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 12:59:35pm

re: #230 makeitstop

For the record, it will take the votes of 75% of NBA team owners to move forward with forcing Sterling to sell.

I don’t think Silver will have the lightest problem getting at least 3/4 on board No one wants to be seen as giving tacit approval to a racist. Cuban and the Knicks’ Jim Dolan are already on record saying they’ll vote to out Sterling.

And as with everything else, this story comes with its own conspiracy theory. I belong to an NBA message board, and some are saying that this is all a setup to help Magic Johnson buy the team.

Johnson was mentioned in the original story, and yesterday he publicly expressed an interest in buying the team.

Make of it what you will.

Eh, so what, I say. If Johnson winds up the owner of an NBA team, then Michael Jordan won’t be so lonely as the only Black majority owner in the 3 major sports leagues in the US.

235 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2014 1:00:28pm

re: #232 klys

Magic Johnson denies he wants to buy Clippers

My, that was quick. Yahoo Sports reports that Magic’s group is still angling, as well as the erstwhile Mrs. Sterling (who I believe has a good chance to eventually acquire his stake)..

Despite his denial of ownership interest in the Clippers, Magic Johnson and potential investors spent part of Monday working to understand the avenues to which they could eventually make a deal to become Clippers owners, sources told Yahoo Sports. If the franchise becomes available, Johnson wants to be positioned to make a deal.

For now, Sterling’s estranged wife Shelly believes she can find a way to control the Clippers, but the NBA has no intentions of the team staying in the family’s hands. That’ll never be a compromise, because Silver and the owners understand the public tenor: The Sterling family must go.

236 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 1:00:49pm

Three Leagues, 92 Teams And One Black Principal Owner

fivethirtyeight.com

237 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2014 1:01:49pm

re: #234 Justanotherhuman

Eh, so what, I say. If Johnson winds up the owner of an NBA team, then Michael Jordan won’t be so lonely as the only Black majority owner in the 3 major sports leagues in the US.

I’m not judging, just passing along information.

I think Magic would be a good owner, TBH.

238 Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2014 1:02:27pm

re: #230 makeitstop

For the record, it will take the votes of 75% of NBA team owners to move forward with forcing Sterling to sell.

I don’t think Silver will have the slightest problem getting at least 3/4 on board No one wants to be seen as giving tacit approval to a racist. Cuban and the Knicks’ Jim Dolan are already on record saying they’ll vote to oust Sterling.

And as with everything else, this story comes with its own conspiracy theory. I belong to an NBA message board, and some are saying that this is all a setup to help Magic Johnson buy the team.

Johnson was mentioned in the original story, and yesterday he publicly expressed an interest in buying the team.

Make of it what you will.

Someone tweeted to Oprah that this could be her next chapter.

ha!!

239 klys  Apr 29, 2014 1:03:13pm

re: #235 makeitstop

Yes, I’m sure Magic Johnson planned on having Sterling use his name in particular in his racist tirades as part of his master scheme to buy the Clippers.

//

I was more responding to your assertion that he has publicly expressed interest in buying the team, since his public statements in fact contradict that.

240 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 1:04:50pm

Andy Serkis and Max Von Sydow have both been confirmed as being cast in Star Wars episode VII

241 GeneJockey  Apr 29, 2014 1:06:15pm

Wait - the commissioners name is SIlver, and he’s working to oust Sterling?

Well, okay then.

242 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2014 1:07:03pm

I just checked the weather here in this area of NC, and it’s only 57 deg, lower than it was at 11 am, when it was 69 deg.

Tomorrow should be in the 70s, though.

243 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 1:07:50pm
244 Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2014 1:10:26pm
245 Lidane  Apr 29, 2014 1:10:49pm

re: #243 Kragar

Dear J.J, Abrams,

1. Please, no midichlorians. Ever. And don’t ever have that word come out of Han Solo’s mouth except to mock and insult the concept.

2. Don’t nuke the fridge.

Sincerely,
Me

246 Internet Tough Guy  Apr 29, 2014 1:12:03pm

re: #245 Lidane

So you’re down with lens flare, then? Cuz Star Wars needs more lens flare.

247 Lidane  Apr 29, 2014 1:13:30pm

re: #246 Internet Tough Guy

So you’re down with lens flare, then? Cuz Star Wars needs more lens flare.

Lens flare is inevitable. I just want a nuke free fridge and no midichlorians. I’m trying to be somewhat realistic here. ;)

248 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 1:13:33pm

re: #246 Internet Tough Guy

So you’re down with lens flare, then? Cuz Star Wars needs more lens flare.

Please wear proper eye protection when handling light sabers

249 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 1:13:35pm

re: #245 Lidane

Dear J.J, Abrams,

1. Please, no midichlorians. Ever. And don’t ever have that word come out of Han Solo’s mouth except to mock and insult the concept.

2. Don’t nuke the fridge.

Sincerely,
Me

3. Kill Jar Jar in the first 5 minutes of screen time.

250 Lidane  Apr 29, 2014 1:14:48pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

3. Kill Jar Jar in the first 5 minutes of screen time.

Better yet, if he has to be mentioned, make sure it’s in the past tense and say he died a long time ago.

251 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 29, 2014 1:14:49pm

re: #243 Kragar

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See my page for my thoughts on the subject :)

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 1:15:46pm

re: #240 Kragar

Andy Serkis and Max Von Sydow have both been confirmed as being cast in Star Wars episode VII

Darth Ming! I foresee much chewing of scenery!

253 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2014 1:16:32pm

re: #239 klys

Yes, I’m sure Magic Johnson planned on having Sterling use his name in particular in his racist tirades as part of his master scheme to buy the Clippers.

//

I didn’t say I bought the conspiracy theory, I was just mentioning it was out there.

I was more responding to your assertion that he has publicly expressed interest in buying the team, since his public statements in fact contradict that.

There was a report in the LA Times yesterday that said that he was interested. That’s what I was going on.

254 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2014 1:18:23pm

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

Darth Ming! I foresee much chewing of scenery!

My preciousssssssss…. light saber…. which shall be named…. Sting…. /the circle is now complete /Darth Gollum

255 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 1:19:33pm

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

Darth Ming! I foresee much chewing of scenery!

If Andy Serkis isn’t playing a grizzled bounty hunter or trooper of some sort, I will be sorely disappointed.

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2014 1:20:37pm

re: #255 Kragar

If Andy Serkis isn’t playing a grizzled bounty hunter or trooper of some sort, I will be sorely disappointed.

He’s hidden inside a droid body as he searches for the plans for the One Ring.
/

257 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2014 1:22:09pm

re: #250 Lidane

Better yet, if he has to be mentioned, make sure it’s in the past tense and say he died a long time ago.

“Whatever happened to Endor?”

“Those poor furry bast…but that’s not important right now.”

258 Kragar  Apr 29, 2014 1:23:47pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

“Whatever happened to Endor?”

“Those poor furry bast…but that’s not important right now.”

It does explain the coat…

259 palmerskiss  Apr 29, 2014 1:23:56pm

mediaite.com

260 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2014 1:31:47pm
261 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2014 1:32:23pm

In which Glenn Beck shows he is still in fact Glenn Beck.
rightwingwatch.org

262 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2014 1:39:00pm

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

Darth Ming! I foresee much chewing of scenery!

Stormtrooper: Most effective, Your Majesty. Will you destroy this Earth?
Darth Ming: Later. I like to play with thing a while before annihilation.
[laughs evilly]

263 Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2014 1:39:48pm

re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE NBA!!!!!

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How many black NASCAR drivers are there?

264 Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2014 1:45:52pm

re: #197 palmerskiss

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hmmmm lol.

Throw it out where?

265 DKoch  Apr 29, 2014 1:49:12pm

but, but,……. BENGHAZI!

Bundy & Sterling are false flag operations to divert attention away from BENGHAZI!

Adam Silver is using Sharia Law to supplant the First Amendment!

White males are the real minorities!!

Know your FEMA detention zone, people!

266 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Apr 29, 2014 2:08:43pm

I was just in the car listening to sports talk radio here in Chicago. Man, there’s no shortage of Sterling defenders - the calls and texts were 50/50 on the the Sterling issue. It’s obvious that few people understand the 1st Amendment.

Luckily the host Dan Bernstein is super smart (Duke grad) and loves to belittle dumb takes.

267 TedStriker  Apr 29, 2014 2:27:36pm

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

How many black NASCAR drivers are there?

To my knowledge, there’s been at least two, Wendell Scott and Willie T. Ribbs, but none currently.

268 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2014 2:45:16pm

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

How many black NASCAR drivers are there?

Currently no one in the Sprint Cup Series.

I did work with one of NASCAR’s ‘development’ drivers though…Bill Lester. I think he had a few cup races but mostly he drove in the truck series and then in Daytona Prototypes which is also owned by NASCAR. Pretty decent driver. I think he is still wheeling in some GT class cars.

Of course, the current leader in the Formula 1 world driver championship is Lewis Hamilton, an English African American who also already won one drivers championship.

269 Swift2991  Apr 29, 2014 5:26:05pm

Interesting. I’d like to track down the source of the $5 million error, and the one that first said it was an “indefinite” suspension. If you watch Silver’s announcement, he clearly announces a lifetime suspension and $2.5 million.

As for the Nut News World piece, well, if you actually believe all those phony scandals, and the way they’re bouncing off his back, you do think he’s diabolical. Controls everything. Like the Jews!

The talk on ESPN is a lot closer to the truth today. Nobody liked him, and they decided to lower the boom.


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