Daily Beast: Donald Trump’s Ex-Wife Said He “Violently Assaulted” Her

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Hold on to your hats, or whatever’s on top of your head, because tonight the Daily Beast published a possibly serious blow to Donald Trump’s political aspirations. It seems The Donald’s ex-wife once accused him of raping her.

Yep, really.

Not only does the current front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book, Lost Tycoon, The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.

The book, by former Texas Monthly and Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III, described a harrowing scene. After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.

“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.

What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her own scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his own pants.

When contacted by the Daily Beast, Trump’s lawyer launched into a rant you won’t believe:

“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word rape, and I’m going to mess your life up… for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet… you’re going to have judgements against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.

Trump’s lawyer is amazingly wrong about marital rape, by the way.

This is the guy who’s currently the Republican front-runner for the 2016 presidential election, folks.

UPDATE at 7/27/15 6:32:00 pm by Charles Johnson

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598 comments
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thedopefishlives  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:04:13pm

I posted this downstairs; I wouldn’t say I believe Ivana outright. However, the accusations are serious enough to merit investigation and reporting. The lawyer’s remarks are just icing on this particular cake of fail. Apparently Trump hires lackeys that reflect his own personality.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:04:51pm

Donald’s personal life is a shitshow.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:04:55pm

GOP, Dump Sump Pump Trump.

Who am I kidding? Now he’s got the misogynist vote locked up, and that’s a big demographic in the GOP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:06:02pm

re: #2 #FergusonFireside

Donald’s personal life is a shitshow.

But, you know, with Conservatives, it’s all about character.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:06:17pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

GOP, Dump Sump Pump Trump.

Who am I kidding? Now he’s got the misogynist vote locked up, and that’s a big demographic in the GOP.

Cue the right-wing nutjobs saying she deserved it and what Trump does behind closed doors is nobody’s business.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:06:22pm

Trump needs to come out fast with a statement about saggy pants.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:11:59pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, with Conservatives, it’s all about character.

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Ya, hypocrites.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:12:33pm

Hard as it may be to believe, I think Trump looks EVEN STRANGER in the pics from 20 years ago. What the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch is going on with those eyebrows?

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b.d.  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:13:05pm

This should be good for another 5% increase for Trump in the next GOP candidate poll.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:13:14pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, with Conservatives, it’s all about character.

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They complain about Clinton and Kennedy, but Trump? Nah, he’s just one of the good ol’ boys!

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psddluva4evah  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:13:15pm

So wait, So this has been a matter of public record all along, right?

but now that Trump is frontrunner, they gonna throw everything at him

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:13:16pm

Trump’s personal life is a mess. He’s anything but the family values candidate that conservatives can get behind (not like the others or the talk radio nutters are in much better shape).

Whether this event actually occurred deserves an investigation and charges. If true.

I don’t know what to believe about it - except that all those involved should be interviewed and investigated.

But since we’re talking about family values, I’m seeing lots of tweets this evening about how fetal body parts are baby parts and how can you differentiate between those and something else - basically pushing a baby back to a zygote or clump of cells.

I have to admit, some of those arguments sound persuasive.

Right up until the point where you realize that the right wing cares more about the unborn fetus than it does the mother - OR - the baby once it is born. After birth, the baby (and the mother) are left to their own devices. The right wing wouldn’t care if that baby lacks health care (via insurance) or that the mom can’t get enough food for both, etc. The right wing is intent upon destroying the safety net that is supposed to help women get their babies to grow up to be productive members of society - undermining all their talk about being pro-life.

Because life doesn’t start and end at the womb.

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b.d.  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:14:54pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you know, with Conservatives, it’s all about character.

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Quick! Who was the only President to have had a divorce?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:16:22pm

re: #13 b.d.

Ron?

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:16:36pm

Ivana will probably come out with a statement. Ah, it was nothing.

Because of $$.

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b.d.  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:17:13pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel

Ron?

Correct. Saint Ronnie it is.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:19:36pm

re: #16 b.d.

In my book he was no saint. Then again in Judaism we do not have saints.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:20:04pm

Summer’s winding down, it’s almost dark already.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:20:14pm

Well at least we have an answer to the question, “What kind of sick asshole would want to be Trump’s lawyer?”

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:20:48pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

GOP, Dump Sump Pump Trump.

Who am I kidding? Now he’s got the misogynist vote locked up, and that’s a big demographic in the GOP.

I agree. This will only help him with the GOP base. The only thing that would help more is if he shot an unarmed black kid.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:20:48pm

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

The “show me the money” kind.

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S'latch  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:20:57pm

Charles, that pic is scary. I have a child. Please.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:21:09pm

They’ll laugh this off. Bill Clinton gets a blowjob from an intern—that was totally her idea—and it was the crime of the millennium, but this just proves what a manly man Trump is. Wish I was kidding.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:21:15pm

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

Well at least we have an answer to the question, “What kind of sick asshole would want to be Trump’s lawyer?”

One willing to put up with monumental levels of derp - and a willingness to pull out the bankruptcy card at the pass.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:21:15pm

Man, I go out of town for a couple of days and all H - E - double scribble breaks out.

Back from Canuckistan. What a great time we had.

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urbanmeemaw  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:21:23pm

Mr. Trump’s lawyer sounds like a nice man.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:23:31pm

Trump Reacts To Ivana Revelations Claiming It Gives Him More Credibility To Talk About Rape

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:24:04pm

re: #17 PhillyPretzel

In my book he was no saint. Then again in Judaism we do not have saints.

No problem. The medieval Venetians have you covered.
slowtrav.com

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:24:58pm
I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

Is it just me, or does everyone who works for Trump, including his kids, talk exactly like that?

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allegro  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:26:09pm

re: #26 urbanmeemaw

Mr. Trump’s lawyer sounds like a nice man.

He sounds impotently emotional for a high priced lawyer. Expletive laden, spittle spewing empty threats just don’t seem real professional.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:27:12pm

re: #30 allegro

He sounds impotently emotional for a high priced lawyer. Expletive laden, spittle spewing empty threats just don’t seem real professional.

Ya gotta hear it in a Gambino accent.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:27:26pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

Is it just me, or does everyone who works for Trump, including his kids, talk exactly like that?

It’s like a bad b-movie script about mobsters, ain’t it?

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allegro  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:28:05pm

re: #27 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trump Reacts To Ivana Revelations Claiming It Gives Him More Credibility To Talk About Rape

From the rapist’s perspective. Sure, that’s helpful.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:28:09pm

re: #32 makeitstop

It’s like a bad b-movie script about mobsters, ain’t it?

“I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse.”

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LastYearsMan  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:28:30pm

The only reason I know about Ronald Reagan’s divorce is because it was a joke on Family Ties:
Dad (to Alex): “Reagan had a divorce!”
Alex: “He was a Democrat at the time!”

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:31:11pm

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

Well at least we have an answer to the question, “What kind of sick asshole would want to be Trump’s lawyer?”

We’ll end up with someone like that as Attorney General. Won’t that be fun.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:31:26pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

“I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse.”

I was thinking more along the lines of “You’ll never work in this town again!”

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thedopefishlives  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:31:47pm

re: #37 makeitstop

I was thinking more along the lines of “You’ll never work in this town again!”

Yeah, you did say B-movie, didn’t you.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:32:58pm

Uh oh. The Donald’s™ Closet Door just flew open.

And now that there is a scent of sexual issues watch journalist go after more of these type of stories and get other women to come forward about TRUMP®.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:33:03pm

re: #37 makeitstop

I was thinking more along the lines of “You’ll never work in this town again!”

…

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The War TARDIS  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:35:55pm

Reading through stuff, I think I prefer the British Comics Line of Doctor Who.

The American one gets a little too dude-bro-ey.

They nerf Clara into being a bit of a damsel in distress, and follow the American rules in regards to romance, namely there should be none at all. It is still good though. But the British one is better.

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aagcobb  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:37:51pm

I wonder if Fox News will use this as justification to keep Trump out of the debate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:38:26pm

niterz, lizardz!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:39:02pm

Conservative Talk Radio Rallies Behind Donald Trump: ‘He’s The Leader Of The Western World’

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:39:34pm

Boy Scouts End Ban on Gay Leaders, Over Protests by Mormon Church

Very Masculine Lumberjack Scouts Founded

Motto: I Am Definitely Not Looking At Your Crotch!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:40:57pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Conservative Talk Radio Rallies Behind Donald Trump: ‘He’s The Leader Of The Western World’

This is going to be so fun.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:41:00pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:41:18pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Boy Scouts End Ban on Gay Leaders, Over Protests by Mormon Church

Very Masculine Lumberjack Scouts Founded

Motto: I Am Definitely Not Looking At Your Crotch!!


“We’re Lumberjacks, and we’re all straight…”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:41:42pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Conservative Talk Radio Rallies Behind Donald Trump: ‘He’s The Leader Of The Western World’

“Yesterday on “Washington Watch,” Starnes told Family Research Council President Tony Perkins that Trump is a voice for the millions of assholes who can’t seem to shut up voiceless:”

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The War TARDIS  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:42:15pm

re: #41 The War TARDIS

You would think that, with new things like Ms. Marvel, and the Female Thor, that Doctor Who in the US line would go along with that trend.

But, nope, they are somehow on the Dudebro express.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:43:05pm

Saw Coulter loves her some Donny too.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:44:07pm

re: #50 The War TARDIS

That may be how the cartoonists see the relationship between the Doctor and the Companion. If you were in college, that might be a good essay.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:44:25pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Boy Scouts End Ban on Gay Leaders, Over Protests by Mormon Church

Very Masculine Lumberjack Scouts Founded

Motto: I Am Definitely Not Looking At Your Crotch!!

…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:46:05pm

Boy Scouts End Ban on Gay Leaders, Over Protests by Mormon Church

is there a polygamy scouts?

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Lancelot Link  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:46:21pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Conservative Talk Radio Rallies Behind Donald Trump: ‘He’s The Leader Of The Western World’

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:47:11pm

re: #55 Lancelot Link

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Now where have I seen that before, I can’t quite put my finger on it///

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:47:52pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

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The coonskin cap really works for Trump. I said a long time ago that Chuck C. Johnson was Grover Dill trying to work without Scut Farkas, but maybe Grover is Trump’s lawyer instead.

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CleverToad  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:50:12pm

re: #40 RealityBasedSteve

Automatic upding for the Buffett reference, and yes, that’s exactly what was going through my head.

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The War TARDIS  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:50:31pm

re: #52 Belafon

Hell, maybe do one for this site.

And what is utterly bizarre, is that they must not pay attention to the show. She was essentially the Doctor in one episode. Missy says this:

The control freak and the man who can never be controlled. You’d go to hell if she asked, and she would. The phones ringing Doctor, don’t you hear that? Now that’s the sound of your chain being yanked. Heel Doctor!

How the American Comics get this into the normal tropes made it into normal American stuff, though she is able to talk her way out half of the time, and the Doctor refers to her as strong.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:51:58pm

A gay friend of mine used to joke that, when he was in the boy scouts, he had a camp knife with a melon baller on it.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:53:02pm

re: #40 RealityBasedSteve

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I remember a scene in the movie ‘Lenny,’ where Lenny Bruce gets fired from a Catskills resort because he and Honey are so messed up on heroin. They’re pulling out of the parking lot while the club owner nearly has an aneurysm yelling at them.

While the club owner screams, Bruce says “I know, I know, I’ll never work in this town again.” :)

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:53:44pm

re: #55 Lancelot Link

One Nation
One People
One Leader
One Hand in my Pants.

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b_sharp  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:54:42pm

It doesn’t seem to want to stop raining. That’s going to make it really difficult to clean up dog shit.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:56:15pm

re: #42 aagcobb

I wonder if Fox News will use this as justification to keep Trump out of the debate?

You’re talking about FOX. More likely they’ll use it a a reason to give him his own show.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 6:58:15pm

The fact that Trump’s lawyer’s go to defense was literally “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law” is just astounding in how wrong it is in every conceivable analysis. Wrong in terms of the actual fucking law. Wrong ethically and morally. Wrong in terms of PR strategy and an ability to demonstrate the most basic, basement level humanity.

Just. So. Wrong.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:00:05pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

The fact that Trump’s lawyer’s go to defense was literally “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law” is just astounding in how wrong it is in every conceivable analysis. Wrong in terms of the actual fucking law. Wrong ethically and morally. Wrong in terms of PR strategy and an ability to demonstrate the most basic, basement level humanity.

Trump obviously has attorneys who bully opponents into dropping cases. And it probably works a lot of the time.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:00:16pm

Some sad news in the skiing world. Dick Bass, founder of the Snowbird ski area in Utah and the first man to summit all the seven summits (highest mountains on each continent) has died at age 85.

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dholmes32  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:00:23pm

Please, Donald, please sue the Daily Beast. You’re the very definition of a public figure and you’d have to demonstrate actual malice—a very, very high standard. And the discovery would just be a treat.

I’d also suggest dumping your attorney. He seems to be stuck in some sort of 1960s timewarp.

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psddluva4evah  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:04:32pm

“Heritage not Hate”..yeah right….bullshhhh!

VIDEO: White People With Confederate Flags Crash Black Child’s Birthday Party @TPM talkingpointsmemo.com

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:04:59pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Trump obviously has attorneys who bully opponents into dropping cases. And it probably works a lot of the time.

Now every GOP candidate gets to be asked if they believe spousal rape is really a thing, if husbands can rape their wives. Reince Priebus is probably thinking about sending Trump a gift basket full of Polonium.

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:05:52pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

So who is going to ask them? The media?

Surely you jest.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:06:22pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

The fact that Trump’s lawyer’s go to defense was literally “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law” is just astounding in how wrong it is in every conceivable analysis. Wrong in terms of the actual fucking law. Wrong ethically and morally. Wrong in terms of PR strategy and an ability to demonstrate the most basic, basement level humanity.

Just. So. Wrong.

He’s just running his campaign like one of his businesses. And I bet he is using his same crew to do a lot of the “jobs.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:06:45pm

Meanwhile Dana is impugning the morals of Hillary’s husband

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:07:12pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:07:58pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:08:36pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Hey, where’s her gun?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:09:08pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Hey, where’s her gun?

Yeah she changed her gunfucking avi. What’s up with that?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:10:06pm

But she has that book cover that’s Photoshopped to make her look like a hunchback.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:10:07pm

re: #71 Skip Intro

So who is going to ask them? The media?

Surely you jest.

Well, they’re going to have to try to say something about it, just as they did in the “I like guys who weren’t captured” brouhaha. They’ll try to be as mealy-mouthed and noncommittal as possible, but even the slightest hint that they think marital rape is a real thing will sink them forever with the all-important Neanderthal base.

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:10:36pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:10:52pm

I’m getting a palpable tip of the iceberg vibe off of this story. Wait until the past Miss USA contestants start coming forward.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:12:47pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:13:07pm

I have read this Tweet over and over and it still makes no fucking sense

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:13:12pm

This will only make him more popular. Watch his poll numbers skyrocket.

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:13:13pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:13:26pm

Gunfucker in the dead thread….

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:13:42pm

Trump: Obama should spend less time attacking me and more time on Iran deal.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:14:29pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

I’m getting a palpable tip of the iceberg vibe off of this story. Wait until the past Miss USA contestants start coming forward.

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re: #39 ObserverArt

Uh oh. The Donald’sTM Closet Door just flew open.

And now that there is a scent of sexual issues watch journalist go after more of these type of stories and get other women to come forward about TRUMP(r).

=

A damn good bet there is some smoke there.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:14:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:14:56pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

I have read this Tweet over and over and it still makes no fucking sense

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It means the opposite of what she intended. Sometimes teabots get stuck half-way around the rhetoric. The engineers are working on it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:16:04pm

re: #86 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gunfucker in the dead thread….

Actually it’s spamming ads for firearms. Reported.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:17:38pm

DANA “MUHGUNZ” WANTS 2 REMIND U HOW RAPEY BILL CLINTON WAS 25 YEARS AGO HURR HURR!!11!!!

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:18:12pm

re: #87 Jenner7

Trump: Obama should spend less time attacking me and more time on Iran deal.

Obama replies: “I can make the world safer and take a swipe at you. Just like when I made jokes about you while bin Laden was being killed.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:18:54pm

Tigers are sucking so hard. :(

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:19:00pm
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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:19:47pm

re: #86 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gunfucker in the dead thread….

So…he watched videos.

I feel safer.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:21:50pm

Hannity tried to get him to say he wouldn’t go for a third party nomination, but Trump wouldn’t bite. He wants to win as a Republican, but leaving it open, in case he “isn’t treated fairly”.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:22:53pm

re: #97 Jenner7

Hannity tried to get him to say he wouldn’t go for a third party nomination, but Trump wouldn’t bite. He wants to win as a Republican, but leaving it open, in case he “isn’t treated fairly”.

Bless you for watching.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:25:15pm

And again with the poor Patraeus. What Hillary did was much worse. And they’re peddling the lie that Hillary had classified information, even though she swore she didn’t.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:26:46pm

re: #97 Jenner7

Hannity tried to get him to say he wouldn’t go for a third party nomination, but Trump wouldn’t bite. He wants to win as a Republican, but leaving it open, in case he “isn’t treated fairly”.

HURR HURR LET THOSE OTHER GOP LOSERS!!!1!!! RUN AS A THIRD PARTY!!!!!11!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:27:49pm

But I’ll bet he says “Eh”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:28:12pm

re: #97 Jenner7

Hannity tried to get him to say he wouldn’t go for a third party nomination, but Trump wouldn’t bite. He wants to win as a Republican, but leaving it open, in case he “isn’t treated fairly”.

That used to be my fondest hope, but I thought of a better one. Suppose the GOP nominates another “safe” candidate like ¡Heb! and lose. Trump doesn’t run 3rd party this time, but spends four years saying ever more and more deranged shit and the Teabagger rebellion (NOT CONSREVATIV ENUFF!!!) makes him the 2020 nominee….

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:28:16pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

DANA “MUHGUNZ” WANTS 2 REMIND U HOW RAPEY BILL CLINTON WAS 25 YEARS AGO HURR HURR!!11!!!

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Juanita Broaddrick, the only rape accuser conservatives believe. All others are lying bitches.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:28:39pm

Hannity now asking for an immigration plan besides building a wall.

Get rid of bad guys.

Get the good guys back to their countries, then have them come back legally. He’d expedite the good ones.

And that’s all for the interview.

Much of the same BS.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:30:02pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Also, who the fuck cares?

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:30:45pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

But I’ll bet he says “Eh”

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I see what you did there!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:30:55pm

No shit
It is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do that legally (as it should be)

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:31:26pm

re: #105 Ace-o-aces

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Also, who the fuck cares?

POTUS is very cautioned, smart and careful in his statements. They hate the result so cry about the delivery.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:32:27pm

re: #105 Ace-o-aces

That’s true, Dana. I only hear DERP.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:32:51pm

re: #99 Jenner7

And again with the poor Patraeus. What Hillary did was much worse. And they’re peddling the lie that Hillary had classified information, even though she swore she didn’t.

She didn’t at the time. One of the things that people don’t understand about classified information is that individual pieces can be unclassified, but when they are put together, the group becomes classified. It’s the fact that they were being released under the FOIA that caused parts of them to need to be classified.

It was a weird thing in the Navy, when I was in the nuclear program. You could buy books on nuclear power that spelled out in detail exactly what was going on on the ship i was on, but I couldn’t actually talk about it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:36:52pm

Just on a whim I decided to check an see if #TrumpRape was actually a thing now and Twitter did NOT let me down.

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allegro  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:41:34pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

No shit
It is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do that legally (as it should be)

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Am I the only one who sees a remarkable resemblance to Frank Sinatra in that pic?

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:42:28pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:42:48pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

But I’ll bet he says “Eh”

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I’ve never seen Ted Cruz take a dump either yet I still know he’s full of it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:44:20pm

re: #112 allegro

Am I the only one who sees a remarkable resemblance to Frank Sinatra in that pic?

Great, now I’ve got this fucked up image in my head of him singing “I did it my way” as he gunned those people down.

*I can feel you all pulling away from me right now*

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:49:20pm

Michael Cohen got publicly irritated at me for following Chuck Johnson’s exploits once.

Shoe. Other foot.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:49:24pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Great, now I’ve got this fucked up image in my head of him singing “I did it my way” as he gunned those people down.

*I can feel you all pulling away from me right now*

I suppose this wouldn’t be a good time to slip in a Sid Vicious reference…

edit: Jezuz, I’d forgotten how that video ends. I was thinking of Nancy when I posted it.

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RemainCalm  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:50:00pm

Let’s not investigate too rigorously until he spends a little more time making the entire Republican Party look bad. Maybe let him win a few primary states. Then they can all go down with him.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:51:01pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:51:17pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Michael Cohen got publicly irritated at me for following Chuck Johnson’s exploits once.

Shoe. Other foot.

Why did he care?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:51:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2015 • 7:54:13pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:01:21pm

re: #120 Ace-o-aces

Why did he care?

Never mind, I get it now.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:01:38pm

re: #30 allegro

He sounds impotently emotional for a high priced lawyer. Expletive laden, spittle spewing empty threats just don’t seem real professional.

Sounds like a job for Les Grossman

…

EDIT - I love the reaction shots

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:02:01pm

oliverwillis.com

WATCH: Cop Threatens “I’ll Put A Hole Right Through Your Fucking Head” For Traffic Violation

Video

Wow.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:03:05pm

Mother in law wants to know which channel Fox is on because something bad happened. What did I miss?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:04:31pm

re: #126 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Mother in law wants to know which channel Fox is on because something bad happened. What did I miss?

#TrumpRape

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:05:16pm

re: #124 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Sounds like a job for Les Grossman

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Video

When I read that lawyer’s quote, I thought, “That guy sounds like a less intelligent version of Les Grossman”.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:11:58pm

re: #125 Jenner7

oliverwillis.com

WATCH: Cop Threatens “I’ll Put A Hole Right Through Your Fucking Head” For Traffic Violation

…

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:15:26pm
“And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have.”

How to nullify your threat with ‘you so broke’ snark.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:25:17pm

re: #129 stpaulbear

So he didn’t immediately ID himself as a cop? I’m sorry, but if some meathead dressed like that comes walking up to me in that manner, threatening to shoot me, I’m speeding the fuck out of there.

I’m getting my own dash cams installed soon.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:26:14pm

Chucklehead is probably asking himself why everybody laughs when he says the same thing Trump’s lawyer said.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:31:36pm

re: #121 Ace-o-aces

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Huckabee saying something intelligent would be newsworthy.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:36:00pm

I’m off to bed…. I leave you with this image that showed up on my timeline

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:36:21pm

Florida Man:

Lawn man who mowed over ducks sentenced to jail.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:36:37pm

Snowmaking starts in two friggin months! Chomping at the bit!

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:47:59pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:49:00pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:56:20pm

re: #134 RealityBasedSteve

I’m off to bed…. I leave you with this image that showed up on my timeline

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Stormtrooper doesn’t need to shoot the red shirt, he just needs to use his armor plates to break the red shirt’s nose then drive the bones back into his brain.

/Hey, it was a chance to be bloody-minded without being accused of ‘gun-fucking’.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:56:28pm

re: #137 jaunte

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The one before that’s even better:

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2015 • 8:56:44pm

Wasn’t there some ugliness with the divorce from Marla as well?

She has certainly maintained a low profile—wonder if Trump will drag out the little girl from that liaison next. Oops, guess she’s not such a little girl—22 years old.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:05:06pm

Fun fact. I was eating breakfast in a nice little breakfast/lunch joint in Aspen before I went skiing last March, and who do I see two tables away but Ivanka Trump and her family.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:06:50pm

OK, let’s have some fun. I’m going to post a story, and I ask folks hear to write accompanying lines that belong right under the headline:

Ted Nugent and Allen West visit scene of Lafayette shooting

Aging rocker and conservative activist Ted Nugent and former Florida Rep. and Lt. Col. Allen West visited the scene of a high-profile shooting in Lafayette on Saturday.

Before reporters and cameramen, the pair visited The Grand 16 theater to lay flowers at the scene where a gunman opened fire, killing two women and injuring nine others before taking his own life last week.

Nugent, who was in town for the Louisiana Outdoor Expo, said he was there just to show support for the victims.

“I think it’s inappropriate to even approach that subject (of guns),” he told reporters.. “I think it’s all about prayers for the victims and the families, showing support for the community. Instead of hardware, I think we should talk about heart-ware.”

My own accompanying line: Two nuts visit site of rotten nut’s rampage.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:10:16pm

Hey Dark_Falcon! Just wanted to say ‘hi!’

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:11:02pm

Heh!

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:14:07pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

Hey Dark_Falcon! Just wanted to say ‘hi!’

I brought you a peace offering in the chance to mock those nutbags Nugent and West. I know its too easy, but I hope its still fun.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:17:31pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

I brought you a peace offering in the chance to mock those nutbags Nugent and West. I know its too easy, but I hope its still fun.

You might not like this, maybe you might.

Two gun fuckers visit the site of a horrible crime perpetrated by a guy who thought Hitler was the business.

:-P

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:20:03pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

You might not like this, maybe you might.

Two gun fuckers visit the site of a horrible crime perpetrated by a guy who thought Hitler was the business.

:-P

Works for me.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:21:27pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:24:22pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

And which feminists would that be, Dana? I’m sure you remember their names. People like you never forget a slight.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:49:40pm
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 9:49:46pm

c-span.org

Kerry, Moniz, and Lew testify at the House committee tomorrow morning. Fun. Fun.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 10:18:21pm

Ted Cruz was supposed to be on The Daily Show tonight, but didn’t make it. He had to “vote”. Ha!

I’m shocked he would actually agree to go on his show.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 27, 2015 • 10:18:37pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

“The depraved twosome deflect their responsibility”

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 10:34:24pm

Agreed.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2015 • 10:53:18pm

WTF?!?!?!

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:04:26pm

147 years ago today something very important happened in the United States.

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Bird in the Paw  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:29:35pm
There’s nothing to say here

It’s seems slow here right now — so a picture that sprog #1 put up on his Facebook.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:41:44pm

re: #158 Bird in the Paw

Spolier Tags! Spoiler Tags! Spoiler Tags! (hover your cursor over the Big Green Question Mark at the bottom of the comment field if all you newbies don’t know what I’m talking about)

On the newbie note, I’ve noticed more than a few new lizards have registered over the weekend. Welcome, all!

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dell*nix  Jul 27, 2015 • 11:52:40pm

re: #158 Bird in the Paw

PLEASE! Hide and warn of such things.

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Bird in the Paw  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:32:15am

Wasn’t thinking, sorry. And now I’ve passed the edit time.

Passes out cookies and Sierra Neva PA to all.

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dell*nix  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:39:05am

The laughing fit almost put me on the floor. The refreshment will help recovery.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:40:19am

Trump has not won over National Review. Maybe he needs to be more racist.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:46:21am

Only 2,000 giant pandas left in the wild, due to China’s unstoppable human population and growth which is decimating their habitat. These beautiful creatures will be gone soon.

:(

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:51:23am

re: #9 b.d.

This should be good for another 5% increase for Trump in the next GOP candidate poll.

He should get Bill Cosby’s endorsement at this point. And OJ Simpson’s…

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 1:04:49am

Something I tweeted 12 days ago that went unnoticed. For you night owl lizards in the United States. Feel free to discuss.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 1:06:26am

Trump has a rape apologist for a lawyer. Nuff said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 1:14:44am

re: #167 Nyet

Trump has a rape apologist for a lawyer. Nuff said.

Rape apologetics is a major GOP topic. Glad to see that he has claimed it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 1:18:56am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t like it, but yes, this issue won’t go away. And this is one point where the wingnut sharks justifiably see the blood.

I don’t know if Bill Clinton is a rapist, but he could be, and that’s bad. And no, dismissing Juanita Broaddrick’s testimony on some flimsy basis like “it’s all a political ploy” is hardly justice. Neither has she ever been discredited. At least five people confirmed that she told them about the alleged rape shortly after it allegedly occurred. This renders all the objections like “she later changed her testimony to say that nothing happened” mute (she credibly explained her reversal as not wanting further controversy “about the most horrific event of my life”; she knew that the political circus would ensue). Some of the details she gave (the hotel and the nursing conference) were confirmed, as well as the fact that Clinton could have been there (i.e. no apparent alibi that he was elsewhere, meaning her claim has at least a certain plausibility and is not immediately dismissible as a lie), and that’s pretty significant.

In the end it’s still he said/she said, and the case was too long ago to “adjudicate” it now, esp. without all the facts. But the shadow lingers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 1:25:49am

re: #169 Nyet

This is all part of the baggage that Hillary is going to bring to the campaign…including Bill’s baggage, and the GOP is plans to go through all of it.

What else can they do? Explain why their nominee is the better candidate? Remind women, gays, minorities and employees what is in store for them under a GOP administration? Remind them what a great job the last GOP administration did for the economy and foreign policy?

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:06:28am

tass.ru

“Russia to veto UN SC resolution on tribunal over MH17 crash if it scores 9 votes — envoy”

As if it wasn’t already all too clear, who did it, they have to go and do this. Heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:08:11am

re: #171 Nyet

tass.ru

“Russia to veto UN SC resolution on tribunal over MH17 crash if it scores 9 votes — envoy”

As if it wasn’t already all too clear, who did it, they have to go and do this. Heh.

all for domestic consumption. everyone else has little doubt who is behind it

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:19:43am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

all for domestic consumption. everyone else has little doubt who is behind it

Putin’s regime is a cancerous tumor. This won’t end well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:22:40am

re: #173 Nyet

Putin’s regime is a cancerous tumor. This won’t end well.

to expand your analogy, a cancerous tumor spreads more quickly when the body surrounding it is already weakened…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:24:40am

re: #169 Nyet

snip…
In the end it’s still he said/she said, and the case was too long ago to “adjudicate” it now, esp. without all the facts. But the shadow lingers.

Semper aliquid haeret.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:26:08am

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

I have read this Tweet over and over and it still makes no fucking sense

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It means that they have no hesitation about attacking Bill if they run out of things to attack about Hillary. He is also part of the baggage she brings to the campaign.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:28:07am

Weird glitch at my end or Charles’. A comment sometimes doesn’t erase from the composition block after posting, shows up with a new comment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:30:31am

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Weird glitch at my end or Charles’. A comment sometimes doesn’t erase from the composition block after posting, shows up with a new comment.

I had a comment disappear entirely, it showed up when I went to edit, but would not display.

Fortunately, it was not vital to the thread or I would have REPEATED IT IN ALL CAPS!!!111ty

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:31:04am

It’s a few minutes before dawn, 77 degrees. We have another 6 weeks of this to get through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:32:52am

re: #179 Decatur Deb

It’s a few minutes before dawn, 77 degrees. We have another 6 weeks of this to get through.

Summer seems to be on hiatus again in Germany…we had heatwaves of 90 degree temps and 90 percent humidity in June/early July, now we are back to balmy and breezy with occasional showers.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:34:47am

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Semper aliquid haeret.

Esp. if you really did it…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:36:19am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Summer seems to be on hiatus again in Germany…we had heatwaves of 90 degree temps and 90 percent humidity in June/early July, now we are back to balmy and breezy with occasional showers.

I avoided assignment to FRG because of climate and history, but did some temporary duty there. Wife did 6 years there (Vilseck) as child in the early 50’s and early 60s.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:38:06am

re: #181 Nyet

Esp. if you really did it…

The GOP had all the money and all the motivation in the world to prove it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:40:36am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

The GOP had all the money and all the motivation in the world to prove it.

Clinton had all the resources and all the motivation in the world to disprove it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:41:58am

re: #184 melissafosterguide

Hello, Spam.

(Hint: its link.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:42:24am

re: #185 Nyet

Clinton had all the resources and all the motivation in the world to disprove it.

Not when he was a corrupt minor official in a backward province.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:43:41am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

Not when he was a corrupt minor official in a backward province.

Back then this information was only known to a few of her acquaintances.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:43:46am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

I avoided assignment to FRG because of climate and history, but did some temporary duty there. Wife did 6 years there (Vilseck) as child in the early 50’s and early 60s.

Germany is wonderfully pleasant and balmy in April/May and again in Sep/Oct, July and August are either cool and showery or stiflingly hot and unpleasant.

I have little problem with the history: they have come to face their past and done a much better job of dealing with it and learning from it it than a number of other nations involved in WWII.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:46:45am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Consoled myself with a 3 year tour outside of Venice.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:48:07am

re: #188 Nyet

Back then this information was only known to a few of her acquaintances.

And now it’s known to….?

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:49:45am

re: #191 Decatur Deb

And now it’s known to….?

Everyone concerned.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:51:39am

re: #192 Nyet

Everyone concerned.

That might be a couple of dozen people and one political party.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:52:48am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

That might be a couple of dozen people and one political party.

I think we’ll hear more about that after the nomination business is settled.

And I suspect we will see some reversal of roles re:rape accusations.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:54:16am

re: #194 Nyet

I think we’ll hear more about that after the nomination business is settled.

And I suspect we will see some reversal of roles re:rape accusations.

I hope they try. Bill’s not running.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:57:24am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Bill’s not running.

He’s running to be the First Man. Whether he thinks he does or not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:57:44am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

I hope they try. Bill’s not running.

Again, Bill is part of the baggage that Hilary brings to the campaign, the GOP is not going to hesitate to drag him into it as well.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 3:58:47am

re: #196 Nyet

He’s running to be the First Man. Whether he thinks he does or not.

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Again, Bill is part of the baggage that Hilary brings to the campaign, the GOP is not going to hesitate to drag him into it as well.

They’ll have less luck than they did last time. All the blue dresses are back from the cleaners.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:01:52am

Going to try to get the walk in before the heat gets hellish. That bot is interesting—hope it’s taken alive for the laboratory. BBL

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Jayleia  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:05:26am

Your Indiana Correspondent here with a report about the Brickyard something or other:

Confederate memorabilia was being sold there by some vendors, despite the wishes of NASCAR and the Speedway.

Some of it was being sold at a tent run by K&K Kollectibles…yeah, with a K. Klassy, right?

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:19:45am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

The GOP had all the money and all the motivation in the world to prove it.

Yes, but as we’ve seen rape cases can be almost impossible to prove, especially after the fact. Which is not to say Clinton did it, but rather to point out that all the money and motivation in the world might win an acquittal for rape, but they may not be enough to prove that a rape happened.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:26:50am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Indeed, disproving such accusations is often more easy than proving them. To disprove something (or at least to discredit it - there’s a difference) - as long as the accusation is detailed enough - you simply have to show that the verifiable details are not true.

E.g. Broaddrick claimed that it happened during a nursing conference at the Camelot hotel (though she didn’t remember the exact date).

So NBC went and checked - there was indeed such a conference at exactly this hotel and exactly at the time when Clinton was nearby and had time off schedule. That’s a pretty remarkable coincidence.

Now, had NBC established that Clinton was elsewhere at that time (which would be pretty probable on the false claim hypothesis - he could have been anywhere at the time), poof - accusation disproved.

On the other hand, while NBC’s finds support Broaddrick’s claim, they cannot prove it, because even assuming she did sleep with Clinton, we still wouldn’t know what happened between them - only they two would know that.

So that’s always a problem.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:35:40am

LOLWUT
STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
(Of course it’s early, THEIR WILL BE MOAR STUPIDS)

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:35:41am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Biblical marriage

Which reminds me that Putin is an immoral divorcee. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:36:26am

re: #203 Nyet

None of this has to do with defending women’s rights or integrity, it is all about getting the goods on a political opponent.

I do not understand the Trump rape charges hoo-hah. For this guy, there is no such things as bad publicity. Publicity is like hair: the more it is piled up, the better it looks on him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:36:27am

Non-government Social Security:

Work until you die.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:37:00am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Simple Fact: Being against government-run social security is not the same as being against social security

Just keep your government hands off my Medicare!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:37:39am

re: #206 Nyet

Which reminds me that Putin is an immoral divorcee. /

And one who basically put his first wife out the door to make room for a newer, more attractive model.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:37:45am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

None of this has to do with defending women’s rights or integrity, it is all about getting the goods on a political opponent.

Oh, absolutely. As someone remarked above, this is the only rape accusation the wingnuts believe. (I just hope that the reverse of this is not true.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:40:42am

HEH

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:42:45am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

Answering the first part: your dad.

/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:43:45am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

Non-government Social Security:

Work until you die.

Something blew by in the Intertubes noise a few days ago—an analyst identifying yet another end-of-the-American-world scenario. The hook paragraph indicated the hidden threat is the current generation of workers aging out in a world without corporate or adequate government retirement resources. Should have pursued it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:44:21am

re: #213 Nyet

Answering the first part: your dad.

/

Abortion is only mentioned in the Old Testament as tort law, someone who causes a woman to miscarry has to pay a fine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:45:45am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Something blew by in the Intertubes noise a few days ago—an analyst identifying yet another end-of-the-American-world scenario. The hook paragraph indicated the hidden threat is the current generation of workers aging out in a world without corporate or adequate government retirement resources. Should have pursued it.

The corporate business model that included pensions for retired workers is virtually extinct.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:47:23am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Abortion is the second part.

BTW, the gospel Jesus said nothing about scourging bankers. In his parable of talents he is not hostile to bankers either:

6 “His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? 27 Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.

Bankers are OK acc. to this.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:48:07am

re: #216 The Vicious Babushka

The corporate business model that included pensions for retired workers is virtually extinct.

Seemed to be the core of the article. Old engineers aren’t going to like what Social Security offers, especially after another crash turns their 401(k) to a 201(k).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:49:07am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

Non-government Social Security:

Work until you die.

I recall Rick Santorum praising his immigrant grandfather, who “worked until the day he died”. To which I thought: this guy needed a better pension plan!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:49:54am

re: #217 Nyet

Abortion is the second part.

BTW, the gospel Jesus said nothing about scourging bankers. In his parable of talents he is not hostile to bankers either:

Bankers are OK acc. to this.

IIRC, his accountant then goes and cooks the books with his borrowers.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:51:27am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

And, give us your money, we’ll take care of it for you. Honest. Would we lie to you?

Anyone who falls for that shit needs a slap in the snout. There’s been a push to grab all that money, one of the last remaining big ass piles of money that belongs to the American People, for as long as I can remember. If it happens and the bastards get hold of that money, we’re going to see the shit that led to Social Security being created in the first place. Old and disabled people homeless and starving in huge numbers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:51:37am

Wow this guy, just full of pithy aphorisms.
Danny it depends on what your disagreement is about

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:52:54am

re: #221 A Mom Anon

And, give us your money, we’ll take care of it for you. Honest. Would we lie to you?

Loan us all the money you have and we will use it to buy everything you own.

And then lease it back to you…

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:53:04am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Simple fact: nobody ever claimed that disagreeing with a person of color makes one racist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:53:45am

re: #224 Nyet

Simple fact: nobody ever claimed that disagreeing with a person of color makes one racist.

I know a large straw gentlemen who would disagree.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:54:27am

Here’s an example of a disagreement that is not racist:
POC: Man the Tigers are sucking hard this season!
DANNY: Verlander is just off his game, they can come back!

Here is a disagreement that is racist:
DANNY: When you get stopped by police just do whatever the officer says and be polite!
POC: White boy you have no fucking clue.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:54:35am

The liberal hippie Jesus is as fictional as the capitalist gun nut Jesus.

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Doofus  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:57:52am

Fiat Chrysler to buy back 300,000 Ram trucks due to front end problems.

The trucks, which are the company’s top-selling vehicle, have defective steering parts that can cause drivers to lose control, and some previous repairs have been unsuccessful. So to get them off the roads, Fiat Chrysler agreed to the buyback, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Owners also have the option of getting them repaired, the agency said in documents released Sunday.

Also, Jeep didn’t learn from the Pinto

Also, owners of more than a million older Jeeps with vulnerable rear-mounted gas tanks will be able to trade in their vehicles for more than market value or be paid to get them repaired, the agency said in a statement. The Jeeps’ fuel tanks are behind the rear axle and have little to shield them in a rear crash.

It is a good start.

//

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 4:58:32am

re: #227 Nyet

The liberal hippie Jesus is as fictional as the capitalist gun nut Jesus.

Both certainly fictional, one gets more column-inches than the other.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:00:09am

re: #228 Doofus

Fiat Chrysler to buy back 300,000 Ram trucks due to front end problems.

Also, Jeep didn’t learn from the Pinto

It is a good start.

//

My old LandRover has 2 twelve-gallon tanks, one under the driver’s seat and one under the passenger’s.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:00:42am

Young penis faced conservatives are just the worst.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:02:40am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And one who basically put his first wife out the door to make room for a newer, more attractive model.

Newt proved that that wasn’t a disqualifier to run.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:14:09am

The melissa bot is vapor. What is the logic in creating such a thing?

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:15:45am

re: #233 Decatur Deb

The melissa bot is vapor. What is the logic in creating such a thing?

The more eyeballs, the better?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:19:27am

re: #234 Nyet

The more eyeballs, the better?

But so incredibly clumsy and amateurish? Is setting up a system to do that at all expensive?

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:20:35am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

But so incredibly clumsy and amateurish? Is setting up a system to do that at all expensive?

See this article, scroll down to part 4.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:22:11am

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

Newt proved that that wasn’t a disqualifier to run.

Wasn’t Reagan also remarried?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:25:55am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t Reagan also remarried?

Yeah, but I never bothered to look into the particulars of that marital breakdown. Newt, on the other hand, was blatant about being an asshole about others doing what he himself was doing.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:26:53am

Heh, new rules at PZ’s place:

Blog is a lousy social medium; heck, social media are lousy social media. I think lately that I’ve been wrestling far too much with the problem of community on the web, and I have become disillusioned. That this particular community has been under siege by trolls and slimers and shit-stirrers hasn’t helped, either, or that there is far too much cliquishness of a painfully artificial sort.

I must also say that I find the wider community we tried to build at Freethoughtblogs is less a unified group than a disparate collection of loosely affiliated blogs that have found a convenient hosting service, which doesn’t help my mood much, either. We are all objects in space, drifting, occasionally bouncing off each other or tugging gently at each other’s masses. And that’s about it.

So I’m making changes. I’m not even going to try to foster this thing called ‘community’ any more — I will be a cold dark ember of a star, following my own whims, drifting alone, not trying to create a hospitable atmosphere. If you like what I write, read it; if you want to comment on it, write; but I won’t be providing any special places for social interaction. I’ll also be laying down some new commenting rules to break apart any cliques.

The monitor system is dissolved. Thank you for your assistance! Instead, there is a link on the sidebar where you can report any problems directly to me.

Otherwise, there aren’t going to be any major changes in what I do here. All I’m doing is making what has turned into an unrewarding chore go away.

You can argue about these changes below, but I’m afraid my mind is made up and I will not be reinstituting traditions that have become a source of constant trouble.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:29:36am

re: #236 Nyet

See this article, scroll down to part 4.

That’s really excellent work. By extension, it would seem the senders are after people who can just barely find the polling place. The whole thing looks pretty counter-productive, again not speaking well of the seriousness of Trump’s campaign. In the end, he’s going to be about marketing cheap men’s fragrances.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:30:42am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wasn’t Reagan also remarried?

Yes, but he was an under-achiever by Hollywood star standards.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:32:16am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Wait, the spammers were selling stethoscopes, not Trump ;)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:33:43am

re: #239 Nyet

Heh, new rules at PZ’s place:

Surrender monkey.

If we have a problem, it is a tendency to become a bit too communal. (And I am part of it.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:36:40am

re: #231 goddamnedfrank

Young penis faced conservatives are just the worst.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:37:51am

re: #238 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, but I never bothered to look into the particulars of that marital breakdown. Newt, on the other hand, was blatant about being an asshole about others doing what he himself was doing.

Yes, he rationalized it as an expression of his Passion for America. Reagan was just a Hollywood actor, for whom divorce was just part of the profession.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:37:55am

re: #242 Nyet

Wait, the spammers were selling stethoscopes, not Trump ;)

Lost me there. Only got a look at melissa and thought it was bumping Trump. Was there a link to something?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:38:53am

Welp a wingnut has just alerted me to a NEW PLANNED PARENTHOOD VIDEO TODAY!!!!!!

It will be the same bogus shit as the previous videos.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:40:35am

Looks like that “heads up” was correct==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:44:09am

And here it is==>
Linked so it won’t embed here

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:45:44am

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

Welp a wingnut has just alerted me to a NEW PLANNED PARENTHOOD VIDEO TODAY!!!!!!

It will be the same bogus shit as the previous videos.

[Embedded content]

The persecution is strong in Ms Pottymouth, starting with the Common Core Commie teacher who taught her to spell.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:45:54am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

And here it is==>
Linked so it won’t embed here

Can’t. Just can’t. Someone please just sum it up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:46:42am

Todd Kincannon is back on Teh Twitters as @ ToddJKincannon. I thought he was permanently banned like CCJ.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:48:02am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Todd Kincannon is back on Teh Twitters as @ ToddJKincannon. I thought he was permanently banned like CCJ.

define “permanent”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:51:30am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Todd Kincannon is back on Teh Twitters as @ ToddJKincannon. I thought he was permanently banned like CCJ.

Um … check the bio.

When I’m not in the courtroom protecting your ass, I’m in the back room getting mine filled! Santorum has nothing on me, except Santorum!
Columbia, SC * rentboy[dot]com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:52:40am

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

Um … check the bio.

Yeah it is kind of toned down.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:55:43am
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:02:55am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:04:44am

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

Um … check the bio.

“Santorum has nothing on me, except Santorum”
EWWWW!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:05:02am

From downstairs:

HOUSTON (CBS Houston/AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry believes people should be allowed to bring guns into movie theaters.

Speaking to CNN on Sunday, the former Texas governor says people who have been appropriately trained should be allowed to carry firearms.

No thanks. Think I’ll just stay home.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:06:32am

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

When I’m not in the courtroom protecting your ass, I’m in the back room getting mine filled! Santorum has nothing on me, except Santorum!

So it’s the real thing then.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:08:40am

re: #257 lawhawk

Sean Spicer said he would not “sit here and condemn someone for how they talk about a particular policy out their ass in order to cause outrage and gain attention.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:09:30am

re: #239 Nyet

Blog is a lousy social medium; heck, social media are lousy social media.

Heh, indeed

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:10:53am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like that “heads up” was correct==>

The usual suspects will get roweled up. I’ll pass.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:17:24am

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

You’d think a lawyer could do something as simple as watch an episode of SVU.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:24:02am

Stay classy angry white dudes:

A group of white passengers in trucks with waving Confederate flags reportedly interrupted a black child’s birthday party in Douglasville, Georgia on Saturday, according to The Atlanta Journal Constitution.

A woman shared videos on Facebook that shows seven trucks leaving her property, where they were parked. The birthday party was taking place at a residence near the field of the woman who shared the video, according to The Atlanta Constitution.

The woman who shared the video told The Atlanta Journal Constitution that the passengers of the trucks were armed and threatened to, “kill y’all (N-words).”

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:26:16am

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:27:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:27:23am

re: #266 lawhawk

A LOT of Confederate Battle Flags Show Up At Black Child’s B-day Party With Predictably Racist Results

note in the film that several trucks are flying US and CSA flags together, and these crackers see no conflict or contradiction in that…

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:29:21am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Nope, no contradiction - flying the flag of insurrectionists along with the flag of the nation that put down the insurrection (the cause of which was slavery as root issue).

But they’ll claim that this is their heritage, all while showing that the heritage they’re self-identifying with is racist to the core.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:30:15am

Here’s how much corporations paid US senators to fast-track the TPP bill

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:31:47am

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

Stay classy angry white dudes:

^%$#$!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:33:17am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:34:02am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

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right —people believe this shit?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:35:24am

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

Stay classy angry white dudes:

Now now, don’t disparage the heritage.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:35:56am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

PRICES for SHIPPING and HANDLING!!!!! MILLIONS$$$$$$

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Bird in the Paw  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:36:13am

Pie plates are the preferred tool for holding biological tissue samples. Makes it easier to eat the parts that you aren’t creating your franken-baby out of.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:37:46am

Apparently the bogus Not a Center, Not Medical, Not for Progress got some pictures of Z0MG DEAD BABBY PIECES!!!11!!!!

You know like the pictures that they put on the sides of their LIFEBUS with the loudspeakers that they park in front of women’s clinics to harass the staff and patients.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:37:55am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

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You’d think it would bother someone to be so fucking wrong all the fucking time.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:10am

You mean beyond the reason all the other GOPers want it defunded and destroyed? To pander to the right wing extremists who don’t care that millions would lose access to affordable health care - increasing the costs to everyone else since ailments would have delayed diagnoses and for stuff like cancer, a cost effective mammogram would be replaced with a costly cancer treatment for those cancers missed.

Paul and the rest of the GOP are intent on destroying the health care system - as witnessed by their insistence on going after Obamacare and offering up no alternatives but vaporware and malware. They too have put Medicare and Medicaid in their sights, with no alternatives.

Same with SNAP and other safety net programs.

This isn’t compassionate conservativism. It’s destructive and corrosive for the sake of being destructive. It also goes against the core Constitutional obligation of Congress to provide for the general welfare. Seeking the eliminating health care to millions is a de facto violation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:23am

FETUS PIE
I just can’t even.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:39:19am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

She needs to go look up “rube” in the dictionary. If she looks in there you know what she’ll find?

Private Comment

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:40:31am

Hatchlings!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:13am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Curious, what did Dana think of the CIA’s torture program and what does she think of the prisoners at Gitmo, how they’re treated, access to courts, trials, etc?

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:43:34am

re: #283 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Curious, what did Dana think of the CIA’s torture program and what does she think of the prisoners at Gitmo, how they’re treated, access to courts, trials, etc?

//

THAT’S WAR!!!! THEY WERE MUSLIM TERRISTS!!! THEIR WAS A TICKING BOMB ABOUT TO NUKE L.A.!!!!!111

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:43:46am
For the religious right, this gives them an opportunity to rail about the evils of sexual liberation without having to talk about their own use of private sexual health care services. For libertarians, it’s an opportunity to claim that you are more deserving of contraception access than the poor, because you’re a Randian superhero and they are just shameful dependents who need to suffer for the lack of merit. No matter what flavor of right winger you are, they all have this in common: a desire to feel self-righteous while in fact just being deeply selfish.

re: #279 lawhawk

The need to feel that powerful Righteous Anger!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:44:59am

PIE!!!!! FETUS PIE!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:45:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:45:37am

FETUS PIE FILLING!!!1!!1!11

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:46:24am

re: #278 Eventual Carrion

You’d think it would bother someone to be so fucking wrong all the fucking time.

Wrong?

Not with a group of like-minded true believers, your pastor’s constant preaching, the bible in your hand, that righteous feeling that makes you think you are godlike…and standing in front of bloody baby pictures and the LIFEBUS can you ever be wrong.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:49:00am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

PIE!!!!! FETUS PIE!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Someone want to tell him the letterhead doesn’t say “Planned Parenthood”?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:49:51am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

Someone want to tell him the letterhead doesn’t say “Planned Parenthood”?

Forget it, they’re rolling.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:49:55am

re: #282 FemNaziBitch

Hatchlings!

I thought we had a troll infestation downstairs for a second.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:16am

re: #292 Timothy Watson

I thought we had a troll infestation downstairs for a second.

Don’t feed them after midnight and don’t let water get on them…

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WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:55am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Just on a whim I decided to check an see if #TrumpRape was actually a thing now and Twitter did NOT let me down.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:57am

re: #283 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Curious, what did Dana think of the CIA’s torture program and what does she think of the prisoners at Gitmo, how they’re treated, access to courts, trials, etc?

//

She’d like to piss on ‘em. That is what she would think.

By the way…a word that is not considered genteel when used to describe a woman keeps popping up whenever I see or hear anything by Dana Loesch.

Shrew.

Just its sound seems descriptive of her.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:54:23am

Trump rape?

GOP candidates: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

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Jayleia  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:54:51am

re: #288 The Vicious Babushka

So that’s what mince meat is! Its ACTUAL MEAT!?

ZOMG!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:55:03am
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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:56:46am

re: #298 FemNaziBitch

The full quote sounds even better.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:58:21am
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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:58:31am

Journalists, if they are actual journalists, should ask Trump if he stands by his lawyer’s assertion that one can’t rape one’s spouse.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:59:18am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:00:11am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

Ya know, Ben, if you ever stop being a douche in public for money you can always find a job as a movie projector.

Not projectionist, projector.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:00:57am

LOL

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:01:17am

re: #299 Nyet

The full quote sounds even better.

when trying to convey simple messages thru graphics …
too many big words just confuses people — and if it looks hard they won’t read it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:01:45am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

[Embedded content]

I think I’d like to move to Israel —but it’s too hot

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:02:09am

re: #306 FemNaziBitch

I think I’d like to move to Israel —but it’s too hot

Move to the Netherlands.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:03:19am

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

True. Just, this quote ends sort of abruptly, without conveying the full thought:

“It is an infantile superstition of the human spirit that virginity would be thought a virtue and not the barrier that separates ignorance from knowledge.”

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:04:33am

Trump is like Chucky with billions.

Wait till he gets on the black people’s case :(

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:04:58am

re: #306 FemNaziBitch

Northern Israel - around the Galilee isn’t too hot - and there’s even skiing in the winter on Mt. Hermon. I have particular affinity for Tzvat (Safed). Something mystical about the place, which says something for a place filled with lots of mystical and special places.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:07:09am
C’est une des superstitions de l’esprit humain d’avoir imaginé que la virginité pouvait être une vertu.

It is one of the superstitions of the human mind to have imagined that virginity could be a virtue.

Notebooks (c.1735-c.1750)
Note: This quotation and the three that follow directly below are from the so-called Leningrad Notebook, also known as Le Sottisier; it is one of several posthumously published notebooks of Voltaire.

I wonder if it is written in two different places in his writings.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:07:28am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

His wife (?) is none too unhappy :)

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:07:48am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

Could be.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:10:15am

re: #313 Nyet

Could be.

Wikiquote is one of the most reliable sources I’ve encountered. As I can’t read french … .

I’ll have to dig out my Volatire —but all my books are in storage for the house construction —LOL

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:11:01am

re: #310 lawhawk

Northern Israel - around the Galilee isn’t too hot - and there’s even skiing in the winter on Mt. Hermon. I have particular affinity for Tzvat (Safed). Something mystical about the place, which says something for a place filled with lots of mystical and special places.

Ok, let’s go!

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:11:49am

re: #314 FemNaziBitch

Great author, even if a bigot (and who wasn’t one in those days?).

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:12:09am

VB…I was going to ask you what you think of those Chevy truck commercials currently running trying to slam the Ford’s all-aluminum construction?

You get to choose if you want to be in a high-strength steel cage or an aluminum cage to protect you when they release a bear. Then they open a door and say the new Chevy truck is made of high strength steel.

So, don’t get caught with a bear chasing you in your new Ford F-150 truck! (Bryan Fischer must have a Chevy.)

Being a car nut and liking engineering and materials research that kind of advertising drives me nuts. It plays on ignorance.

There are some aluminum alloys that are every bit as strong as steel and you get the benefits of light weight and non-rusting.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:15:38am

kitty kitty kitty

…

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:15:41am

If we go by whether a particular medical procedure is gross or not, then most medical procedures would be banned under the gross factor.

Proctology, Urology, Gynecology, Dermatology, Oncology. Plastic Surgery (all of it). You name the discipline, they’re dealing with procedures and/or tests that are gross - involving blood, tissue, or bone.

There’s no escaping it in the medical field.

That an abortion involves blood and tissue isn’t a disqualifier. That doctors can talk casually about it isn’t out of the ordinary either. Doctors in the ER or in any hospital deal with all manner of badness casually. Nurses and doctors have to deal with all manner of bodily fluids and procedures that can make many people weak in the knees.

This is yet another appeal to emotion - not logic or fact - in order to seek the outlaw of abortion and destroying health care access to millions of women.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:16:46am

re: #317 ObserverArt

VB…I was going to ask you what you think of those Chevy truck commercials currently running trying to slam the Ford’s all-aluminum construction?

You get to choose if you want to be in a high-strength steel cage or an aluminum cage to protect you when they release a bear. Then they open a door and say the new Chevy truck is made of high strength steel.

So, don’t get caught with a bear chasing you in your new Ford F-150 truck! (Bryan Fischer must have a Chevy.)

Being a car nut and liking engineering and materials research that kind of advertising drives me nuts. It plays on ignorance.

There are some aluminum alloys that are every bit as strong as steel and you get the benefits of light weight and non-rusting.

I haven’t seen that ad.

It reminds me of the old joke where two friends are hiking together. One guy is wearing hiking boots but his friend is wearing running shoes. He asks why no hiking boots? His friend says “I want to run fast in case we are chased by a bear.”

“You stupid! You can’t out run a bear!”

“I don’t have to out run the bear.”

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:17:00am

re: #315 FemNaziBitch

Ok, let’s go!

Mrs. Lawhawk would love it, but we’ve got our family obligations in the NYC metro. If I could swing the schedule with work though…

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:18:01am

re: #319 lawhawk

This is yet another appeal to emotion - not logic or fact - in order to seek the outlaw of abortion and destroying health care access to millions of women.

This. I hate those fuckers.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:19:46am

re: #317 ObserverArt

By Chevy’s logic, a poured cement pickup truck would be best of all. So, when is FIAT Chrysler going to jump on this?
“The all-new Concrete Ram pickup from Dodge: it won’t burn like the Jeeps and you won’t be hurt when the steering fails and the truck goes off the road.”

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:20:29am

re: #317 ObserverArt

The aluminum is just as strong as steel, which is why they’re using it - to reduce the weight.

I’ve also just seen an article that developers have come up with a new version of steel that uses nanoparticles to give it strength and lightness comparable to aluminum without the difficulties relating to forming aluminum. They could actually use the existing steel presses, rather than put in new presses specific to aluminum.

That’d be a game changer since carmakers would benefit from using existing equipment rather than investing in new gear.

technologyreview.com

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:20:40am

re: #317 ObserverArt

VB…I was going to ask you what you think of those Chevy truck commercials currently running trying to slam the Ford’s all-aluminum construction?

You get to choose if you want to be in a high-strength steel cage or an aluminum cage to protect you when they release a bear. Then they open a door and say the new Chevy truck is made of high strength steel.

So, don’t get caught with a bear chasing you in your new Ford F-150 truck! (Bryan Fischer must have a Chevy.)

Being a car nut and liking engineering and materials research that kind of advertising drives me nuts. It plays on ignorance.

There are some aluminum alloys that are every bit as strong as steel and you get the benefits of light weight and non-rusting.

BUY MY VIDEO GAME CONSOLE IT HAS 64 BITS AND THE COMPETITORS ONLY HAVE 32!!1!

BUY MY PROCESSORS IT’S 3GHZ AND THE COMPETITOR IS ONLY 2.1GHZ!!1!

etc.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:21:41am

re: #318 Nyet

kitty kitty kitty

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Video

That was here at the Columbus Zoo. The dude has been indicted on charges for jumping the fence, etc. He said he was just an animal lover and thought the cougars looked like they needed some pets.

Now that he is trouble he said it was a stupid thing to do.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:22:18am

Some entitled asshole has parked his car on the bike track? Here’s what you do:

…

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:22:44am

re: #326 ObserverArt

It was a very stupid thing to do. But still cute :)

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:25:04am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

BUY MY VIDEO GAME CONSOLE IT HAS 64 BITS AND THE COMPETITORS ONLY HAVE 32!!1!

BUY MY PROCESSORS IT’S 3GHZ AND THE COMPETITOR IS ONLY 2.1GHZ!!1!

etc.

Yes, although equally my work machine keeps swapping to disk because I’m *gasp* trying to work in a spreadsheet AND use a cloud app in Chrome at the same time.

8GB > 4GB > 2GB RAM

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:26:14am

re: #325 Timothy Watson

BUY MY VIDEO GAME CONSOLE IT HAS 64 BITS AND THE COMPETITORS ONLY HAVE 32!!1!

…

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:26:40am

Off-topic, but this sermon against homophobia came across my path… Enjoy…
…

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:26:45am

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

I haven’t seen that ad.

It reminds me of the old joke where two friends are hiking together. One guy is wearing hiking boots but his friend is wearing running shoes. He asks why no hiking boots? His friend says “I want to run fast in case we are chased by a bear.”

“You stupid! You can’t out run a bear!”

“I don’t have to out run the bear.”

Well, I admit, I tend to watch a lot of car shows, Formula One racing, etc. so they are probably running them there more. I think I’ve also seen them on some cable TV news too…maybe MSNBC.

Ha…YouTube has them…of course. Slightly longer version than TV.

…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:29:40am

re: #321 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk would love it, but we’ve got our family obligations in the NYC metro. If I could swing the schedule with work though…

Tell the family to move too!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:32:07am

WHUT

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:32:23am

re: #326 ObserverArt

That was here at the Columbus Zoo. The dude has been indicted on charges for jumping the fence, etc. He said he was just an animal lover and thought the cougars looked like they needed some pets.

Now that he is trouble he said it was a stupid thing to do.

I whhhhannnt one!

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:33:11am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

Saying “baby” instead of “embryo” is beyond disingenuous.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:33:49am

re: #336 Nyet

Saying “baby” instead of “embryo” is beyond disingenuous.

The pregnant woman is NEVER EVER mentioned in any of these memes.

Guess who is the “subhuman” here?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:34:45am

re: #319 lawhawk

If we go by whether a particular medical procedure is gross or not, then most medical procedures would be banned under the gross factor.

My last non-contractor job in IT was with a Beverley hills cosmetic surgery practice. One of the requirements for continued employment was that I get masked, gowned, and then stand where they told me to in the operating theater so that I could witness a maxillofacial procedure. The doctors who ran the place wanted to be sure that none of the help would do something indecorous should they catch a glimpse of the process of making someone look good.

Side Note: Don’t ask. I signed an NDC that allows them to weld me inside a leaky oil drum and drop it five miles out to sea if I reveal anything I saw or heard while in their employ.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:34:46am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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Same people who sneer at vegetarians and use the Holocaust as a handy political smear, so not a particularly compelling argument.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:35:42am

Here is part II of that Tweet:

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:36:04am

re: #331 Teukka

Off-topic, but this sermon against homophobia came across my path… Enjoy…
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Video

A-MEN!!!

There are not enough updings for that YouTube.

Send that off to Bryan Fischer and those like him.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:36:17am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

That’s SCIENCE!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:36:53am

No fascism here, not at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:38:05am
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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:38:29am

Yeah, all those crazy doctors and mad scientists.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:38:29am

Very funny video from Hillary about GOP’s climate science denial.

…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:39:39am

...

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:40:10am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Been self-medicating for many years myself. Hope his experimentation is a success.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:41:09am

re: #346 BlueSpotinAL

Glad that she is assertive on AGW.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:45:34am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:46:01am

re: #345 Nyet

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Yeah, all those crazy doctors and mad scientists.

The diabolical people whose work has reduced the pre-modern fatality rate for childbirth from 50% to what it is today. Yeah, those people.

I am at times ready to believe that conservatives know, deep within themselves, that they’re willfully and irredeemably ignorant so they want to suicide slowly and take the rest of us with them.

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Agnostick  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:46:50am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I agree. I think this is probably a publicity stunt, if nothing else. Also a great way to push Cosby (and his numerous victims) off the front page.

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Kryptik  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:47:33am

They’re really going to ride this out until Planned Parenthood is dead, aren’t they? They’re not going to stop this time, and they’re still going to use it as a boogeyman to further fuck over women even after it’s dead and gone.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:48:05am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:50:19am

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

No fascism here, not at all.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:51:09am

re: #353 Kryptik

They’re really going to ride this out until Planned Parenthood is dead, aren’t they? They’re not going to stop this time, and they’re still going to use it as a boogeyman to further fuck over women even after it’s dead and gone.

The whackos have been trying since Margaret Sanger first made some headway with the Birth Control movement. The entirety of American Catholic Church couldn’t stop it.

These whackos won’t either.

It’s the cry of a dying cause. The Imams of the American Taliban are not going to win.

Women are Watching.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:51:36am

re: #345 Nyet

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Yeah, all those crazy doctors and mad scientists.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:53:46am

The dimwits inadvertently have a point. I did not call my baby a fetus because they are not the same thing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:53:59am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Here is part II of that Tweet:

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I said “my wife is pregnant”.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:57:46am

Here is Columbus Dispatch article on guy petting cougars at Columbus Zoo.

Dispatch - Man charged, accused of jumping cougar exhibit at Columbus Zoo

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Joshua M. Newell, 35, was charged late this afternoon with criminal trespassing, a fourth-degree misdemeanor, by the Delaware County sheriff’s office.

Newell couldn’t be reached for comment.

It’s unclear when the video was taken, but Newell posted the video on YouTube on Tuesday.

The sheriff’s office continues to investigate whether Newell was alone when the video was taken.

In the video, Newell, while holding the camera, jumps a short wooden fence at the cougar exhibit and approaches a wire fence that separates him from the cougars. He pets two cougars through the fence, rubbing their ears and necks.

A release from the zoo said it’s fortunate that neither Newell nor the cougars was harmed.

- - CUT- -

In the comments this one stands out…

Throw the book at him for endangering those cats! Just wondering, if this fool human had gotten bit, would they euthanize the cougars to test them for rabies? That’s exactly what happened to our bears… Goodnight Bears
Baby and Buster are gone, but a bigger question remains: Do we care too much?

And the link is a sad story about Richmond VA having to put down two bears so they could be tested for rabies.

Here is part of that story…

But she apparently told a city health official a different story. She told the director of the Richmond City Department of Public Health on Feb. 23 that she “put herself and the boy over the first fence,” according to the city’s initial report on the incident. He reached his hand through the fence to pet the bear.

The bear bit the boy’s hand. The mother then told the health department director that the bear “realized he’d done something wrong and scampered away,” according to the initial report.

The mother took her son to Bon Secours St. Mary’s Hospital, where he was treated for a puncture wound and released. The necessary agencies were notified: the city’s Department of Public Health, the Virginia Department of Health, the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries and, finally, Maymont.

On Feb. 23, 14 people from all the above organizations discussed the matter and determined the only course of action was to test Maymont’s two black bears for rabies. The decision was hard, but “at the end, nobody said no,” says Maymont Executive Director Geoffrey Platt Jr.

The bears were killed by injection and tested. They were not rabid. They were buried in a landfill but later retrieved, cremated and buried with ceremony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:58:32am

re: #359 Eventual Carrion

I said “my wife is pregnant”.

And most people say “we’re going to have or expecting a baby.”

Not present tense.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:00:18am

This guy’s having a bad day…I feel sorry for the people who work with him in his office…the phones must be ringing off the hook.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:00:22am
There’s one more basic cause that I need not mention, and that is that in general, men don’t give a damn. (Applause) That’s true. The average man that might say, I’m against the abuse of women and girls quietly accepts the privileged position that we occupy, and this is very similar to what I knew when I was a child, when separate but equal had existed. Racial discrimination, legally, had existed for 100 years, from 1865 at the end of the War Between the States, the Civil War, all the way up to the 1960s, when Lyndon Johnson got the bills passed for equal rights. But during that time, there were many white people that didn’t think that racial discrimination was okay, but they stayed quiet, because they enjoyed the privileges of better jobs, unique access to jury duty, better schools, and everything else, and that’s the same thing that exists today, because the average man really doesn’t care. Even though they say, “I’m against discrimination against girls and women,” they enjoy a privileged position. And it’s very difficult to get the majority of men who control the university system, the majority of men that control the military system, the majority of men that control the governments of the world, and the majority of men that control the great religions.

President Jimmy Carter —Ted Talk

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:00:29am

re: #362 darthstar

This guy’s having a bad day…I feel sorry for the people who work with him in his office…the phones must be ringing off the hook.

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Oh, and fuck him.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:02:08am

In short, it doesn’t bode well when everyone has guns - it increases the chances of getting shot or killed - whether you’re a bystander or the potential victim.

And these are just basic scenarios like a carjacking, the second an armed robbery in a convenience store, and the third a case of suspected larceny. If they were to do a theater scenario, the odds are that the participants would do even worse - which means even more victims.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:02:18am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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Bringing up Jews/Holocaust has become pretty much like bringing up Muslims. The mental associations people make are different, but the sole reason for bringing them up is:

SQUIRREL!

They don’t give a shit about Jews, and their concern trolling over terrorism is pathetic. It sucks being used as a distraction by these assholes.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:06:13am

re: #362 darthstar

This guy’s having a bad day…I feel sorry for the people who work with him in his office…the phones must be ringing off the hook.

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That is really screwed up. What strange satisfaction was he after killing a protected lion?

I hope his patients abandon him and he loses his practice. Well, I wish other stuff on him too…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:06:45am

re: #366 CuriousLurker

Bring up Jews/Holocaust has become pretty much like bringing up Muslims. The mental associations people make are different, but their sole reason for bringing them up is:

SQUIRREL!

They don’t give a shit about Jews, and their concern trolling over terrorism is pathetic. It sucks being used as a distraction for these assholes.

They co-opt the Holocaust for whatever their special agenda is.

Gun control is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!
Abortion is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!
Iran Deal is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!
Benghazi is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!
Gay marriage is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!
Obamacare is TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!11!!!

What else?

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:07:37am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:11am

I always thought calling the fetus a baby was like counting chickens before they are hatched.

There are so many things that can happen in utero that will cause the fetus not to be viable. Because of medical science, they are fewer and fewer (at least for those in developed countries).

Survival of the Fittest rules. The body will not birth a baby that will not survive.

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urbanmeemaw  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:09:30am

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

Reds are sucking even harder, believe me.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:11:10am

re: #365 lawhawk

Our local PD runs a citizens academy program. Part of the course is a go through cops’ own state-of-the-art shooting simulator. I was the only civilian in the class to get through it without killing any bystanders. Afterward, our instructor told us jokingly that if we were the cops we’d put ourselves out of a job by depopulating the town.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:11:43am

Work. *sigh*

BBL

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:12:06am

re: #371 urbanmeemaw

Reds are sucking even harder, believe me.

Giants won last night…11 for their last 12. So there is some good in the National League, at least.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:12:15am

And here’s a quote from God Reagan.
Guess what is missing from this narrative?
Hint: it’s just a “body”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:15:12am

PUPPY!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:15:19am

You would think somebody might have noticed 90,000 Black women kidnapped off the streets.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:17:19am

Does Ben know about Israel’s abortion policy? I sent it to him last week.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:17:56am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:18:18am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:19:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:19:49am

re: #380 FemNaziBitch

Embedded Image

You can have a big library on a small device.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:21:00am

re: #359 Eventual Carrion

I said “my wife is pregnant”.

IIRC we did sometimes use the term “baby” when we meant “fetus”, but then I referred to the fact I was being parasitized as well. That’s not something the forced birthers bring up often.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:22:13am

re: #369 darthstar

It’s nice to have Bloom County back.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:22:31am

re: #376 FemNaziBitch

PUPPY!!!

If that’s a puppy, I don’t want to see him full size!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:22:50am

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Also, someone posted a blog essay the other day by a women who did her own research about the so called “black genocide” of abortion. I can’t find it.

Anyone?

It was an excellent rebuttal.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:23:09am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

You can have a big library on a small device.

There is a joke in there somewhere.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:25:02am

re: #386 FemNaziBitch

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Also, someone posted a blog essay the other day by a women who did her own research about the so called “black genocide” of abortion. I can’t find it.

Anyone?

It was an excellent rebuttal.

You mean this page?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:25:36am

re: #385 Timothy Watson

If that’s a puppy, I don’t want to see him full size!

I think it may be a leonberger, older puppy, in the pic.

I want one!

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Snarknado!  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:25:42am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

You can have a big library on a small device.

But it doesn’t look nearly as impressive.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:26:45am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

Does Ben know about Israel’s abortion policy? I sent it to him last week.

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I am sure he knows but he prefers to be a pathetic shithead. It’s part of the job requirement.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:27:15am

re: #390 Snarknado!

But it doesn’t look nearly as impressive.

We have a shitload of books in every room of the house. It can be a hoarding pathology.

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Snarknado!  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:28:12am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

We have a shitload of books in every room of the house. It can be a hoarding pathology.

I resemble that remark….

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:28:16am

re: #363 FemNaziBitch

I’ve had a hard time getting men-nice, kind, caring men-to even consider the idea that all men benefit from rape because the possibility of being raped in various situations holds women back to some extent. They just don’t want to believe they could be the beneficiaries of something they honestly abhor.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:28:31am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

And here’s a quote from God Reagan.
Guess what is missing from this narrative?
Hint: it’s just a “body”

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Would that be the same Reagan who signed one of the most liberal abortion laws before Roe was made law. Seems to me that Reagan gave a lot of pro-life lip service just like he did with religion in general.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:28:50am

Zedushka buys books when he knows there is no shelf space for them, then he piles them up on all available tables & counters.

There is a table in the family room that I have not seen the surface of in years.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:29:15am

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

You mean this page?

Yes, thank you!

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:30:33am

What genocide? Genocide pertains to persons.

Granted, abortion can be a part of a genocide, but only if it’s forced. So can be a forced sterilization. It doesn’t mean that when a person sterilizes themselves voluntarily, they partake in a genocide.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:30:36am

Ivana walks back the rape allegations.

Michael Cohen must have sent her a message.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:30:56am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Would that be the same Reagan who signed one of the most liberal abortion laws before Roe was made law. Seems to me that Reagan gave a lot of pro-life lip service just like he did with religion in general.

Yes, my husband read in Reagan’s autobiography that paraphrased “he didn’t understand it, but he decided that if the overwhelming majority of women thought that abortion should be legal, then he had to trust women.” (if he wanted their vote)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:31:54am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka buys books when he knows there is no shelf space for them, then he piles them up on all available tables & counters.

There is a table in the family room that I have not seen the surface of in years.

It’s a Gentle Madness.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:31:55am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

Charles predicted this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:32:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:32:19am

re: #400 FemNaziBitch

Yes, my husband read in Reagan’s autobiography that paraphrased “he didn’t understand it, but he decided that if the overwhelming majority of women thought that abortion should be legal, then he had to trust women.” (if he wanted their vote)

Right.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:32:42am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:33:06am

re: #402 Nyet

Charles predicted this.

$$$$$

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:33:58am

Of course this revisionism doesn’t change history. It’s not about anyone’s opinion.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:34:19am

re: #406 FemNaziBitch

$$$$$

Or the Stockholm syndrome.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:34:58am

re: #408 Nyet

Or the Stockholm syndrome.

Naw, I think it’s $$$

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:35:57am

re: #408 Nyet

Or the Stockholm syndrome.

There is probably some caveat in the prenup or divorce papers that prevents her from talking about whatever he feels she shouldn’t talk about.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:36:41am

Just watched Gone Girl, and I gotta say……

Bitch be crazy.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:36:55am

When they say it isn’t about the money, it most certainly is about the money.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:37:16am

We need a YOOOGE tag for talking about Trump’s money
$$$$ doesn’t quite do it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:37:29am

re: #410 FemNaziBitch

I just typed and deleted a couple of comments about the Donald. Gah.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:37:52am
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plansbandc  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:39:06am

re: #136 teleskiguy

Ah Loveland! One of the first places I ever skied.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:43:49am

There’s no political difference between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump (other than rape).

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:44:29am

re: #417 Nyet

There’s no political difference between Sarah Palin and Donald Trump (other than rape).

I wouldn’t count on that difference remaining knowing Mrs Palins propensity for word salads.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:44:31am

re: #410 FemNaziBitch

There is probably some caveat in the prenup or divorce papers that prevents her from talking about whatever he feels she shouldn’t talk about.

I believe you’re right. I just read about it last night—something about she had to get his permission before she spoke. Will try to find it.

Edited to add: I see that “gag order” is part of all of today’s stories.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:45:22am

re: #394 calochortus

I’ve had a hard time getting men-nice, kind, caring men-to even consider the idea that all men benefit from rape because the possibility of being raped in various situations holds women back to some extent. They just don’t want to believe they could be the beneficiaries of something they honestly abhor.

You are being too kind. Most nice kind of men don’t want to face their own behavior —when they were young, drunk, older, stressed-out, whatever. The idea that their wife may not have wanted to have sex with them every time they did is not something men want to face.

Carry that thought to children she conceived and you can see why this is so difficult a subject.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:45:31am

re: #418 Teukka

Well, I very much doubt that Sarah raped anyone. Donald though…

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Pip's Squeak  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:47:52am

re: #381 FemNaziBitch

Forwarded to a composer, who I know agrees.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:49:24am

Now wingnuts be all like
HURR HURR LUBRULS CARES MOAR ABOUT TEH DEAD AFRICAN LION THEN TEN BILLION OF TINY BABBIES!!!!!1!!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:50:16am

re: #356 FemNaziBitch

The whackos have been trying since Margaret Sanger first made some headway with the Birth Control movement. The entirety of American Catholic Church couldn’t stop it.

These whackos won’t either.

It’s the cry of a dying cause. The Imams of the American Taliban are not going to win.

Women are Watching.

They’d better be watching while they drive vanloads of voters to the polls. Otherwise they’ll be watching shit they don’t want to see.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:50:59am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

You would think somebody might have noticed 90,000 Black women kidnapped off the streets.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:51:21am

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

You are being too kind. Most nice kind of men don’t want to face their own behavior —when they were young, drunk, older, stressed-out, whatever. The idea that their wife may not have wanted to have sex with them every time they did is not something men want to face.

Carry that thought to children she conceived and you can see why this is so difficult a subject.

For some men it may be too kind, but this includes men I have known well since they were in their teens and early twenties (so 40+ years,) and no, they wouldn’t have forced themselves on anyone. They just don’t want to look at the fact they benefit from something so heinous.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:52:03am

re: #421 Nyet

Well, I very much doubt that Sarah raped anyone. Donald though…

This is the reason behind the various definitions of rape. “I couldn’t be a rapist” is a common thought.

The legal definition is very clear.

The GOP version is not so.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:52:17am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

There are religions that prohibit killing any living things, but those are pagan, devilish religions, you know. Only the one religion that prohibits killing baby-embryos is the true one. Because something something.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:52:52am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

Ivana walks back the rape allegations.

Michael Cohen must have sent her a message.

A shih-tzu’s head on her pillow?

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Pip's Squeak  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:53:30am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

We have a shitload of books in every room of the house. It can be a hoarding pathology.

It’s a disaster. About five years ago it reached the piles on the floor stage. I’m sinking.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:54:29am

re: #426 calochortus

For some men it may be too kind, but this includes men I have known well since they were in their teens and early twenties (so 40+ years,) and no, they wouldn’t have forced themselves on anyone. They just don’t want to look at the fact they benefit from something so heinous.

coercion is force.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:55:15am

re: #430 Pip’s Squeak

It’s a disaster. About five years ago it reached the piles on the floor stage. I’m sinking.

I’m thinking about using them as table supports —get a piece of plywood . .

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:56:05am

re: #432 FemNaziBitch

Hey, how is the Brat Puppy BTW?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:56:16am

re: #430 Pip’s Squeak

It’s a disaster. About five years ago it reached the piles on the floor stage. I’m sinking.

Easy fix: Have several kids. When they graduate and move out it’s like having your will executed early.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:57:41am

re: #431 FemNaziBitch

coercion is force.

Yes, but I don’t believe they coerced anyone either. Unless you consider talking someone into it is actual coercion. That they might have done.

436
goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:58:01am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:58:21am

Trump’s lawyer has apologized. It must be handy, having a designated apologizer on the payroll.

cbsnews.com

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:59:26am
I read a couple of years ago that the appeal of coffee might not be caffeine, but rather the warm mug. Psychologically, the warmth comforts us; the caffeine emerges as an added bonus. When I read the study, I was drinking a cup of coffee, the fingers of my left hand wrapped around my ceramic mug as I read the article on my laptop. Scroll with the right hand. Clutch my coffee with my left hand. My need for the sensation of warmth is the reason I despise travel mugs. Their cool exterior tricks me into believing my drink is also cool. I burn my tongue. The travel mug deceives me while the ceramic mug holds truth.

Out For Coffee

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:59:44am

re: #434 Decatur Deb

Easy fix: Have several kids. When they graduate and move out it’s like having your will executed early.

Um. No. I’m afraid we’re housing stuff for the kids (tiny house and tiny apartment respectively.)
I know. We could demand they take their stuff, but as long as it is confined to the closets in their old rooms (plus a couple pieces of random furniture) it’s OK.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:59:54am

Hey, Teukka, any details on the Russian sub?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:59:59am

re: #435 calochortus

Yes, but I don’t believe they coerced anyone either. Unless you consider talking someone into it is actual coercion. That they might have done.

That would be what men do. Guilt trip them a woman into it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:00:32am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

Trump’s lawyer has apologized. It must be handy, having a designated apologizer on the payroll.

cbsnews.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:01:09am

re: #439 calochortus

Um. No. I’m afraid we’re housing stuff for the kids (tiny house and tiny apartment respectively.)
I know. We could demand they take their stuff, but as long as it is confined to the closets in their old rooms (plus a couple pieces of random furniture) it’s OK.

It never fucking stops. I’m storing a complete suite of grandkid ‘spares’—carseat, inflatable castle, etc.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:01:49am

re: #433 Nyet

Hey, how is the Brat Puppy BTW?

Not happy with the construction in the house. He loves all the workers themselves, but hates the noise they make.

He got lots of drywall dust in the hair between the pads of his feet —licked it and it turned into horrible hairball rocks. Cried like I was trying to kill him when I cut one out. I got the vet to get some others out.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:02:45am

re: #444 FemNaziBitch

Poor kid :)

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:02:45am

re: #441 FemNaziBitch

That would be what men do. Guilt trip them a woman into it.

No one has ever guilt tripped me into it. But then I have a beady eye to fix on jerks. Also been married to a nice guy for nearly 40 years, so that (along with being in my 60s now) has reduced the opportunity to have jerks trying to do anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:03:10am
448
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:03:55am

I’m not going to read it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:05:03am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Snakehandlers?

One of those cases where it’s totally OK to blame the victim (unless a kid).

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:05:18am

re: #446 calochortus

No one has ever guilt tripped me into it. But then I have a beady eye to fix on jerks. Also been married to a nice guy for nearly 40 years, so that (along with being in my 60s now) has reduced the opportunity to have jerks trying to do anything.

Sometime men will think of it as “getting her in the mood.” There can be a fine line.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:05:33am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sometimes you get the Spirit. Sometimes the Spirit gets you.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:05:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:06:03am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:06:05am

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

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they should just get married

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:06:43am

re: #450 FemNaziBitch

Sometime men will think of it as “getting her in the mood.” There can be a fine line.

There can be, indeed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:07:05am
457
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:07:32am

JUST PUT A ASPIREN BETWEEN UR KNEES!!!11!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:08:07am

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Now wingnuts be all like
HURR HURR LUBRULS CARES MOAR ABOUT TEH DEAD AFRICAN LION THEN TEN BILLION OF TINY BABBIES!!!!!1!!!!!!

Some animals will kill their young. Male lions, dolphins, bears and others have been know to do this. Of course, this is after the birth so maybe anti-choice people see that as OK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:08:11am

re: #449 Nyet

Snakehandlers?

One of those cases where it’s totally OK to blame the victim (unless a kid).

yep. Holiness Church. It’s illegal, but they still do it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:08:52am

He seems nice

461
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:09:06am
462
calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:09:23am

I’d better go do some stuff before it gets hot here.
BBL

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:10:11am

kid agreed to have lunch and shop with me.

bbl

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:11:03am

re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice

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The idea that sex is part of life just eludes these people.

the whackiest seem to be those who don’t get any.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:11:17am

re: #462 calochortus

I’d better go do some stuff before it gets hot here.
BBL

Just finished mowing front and back. It’s 93 heading to 97. Or were you referring to the seduction dance debate?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:11:28am

re: #411 subterraneanhomesickalien

Just watched Gone Girl, and I gotta say……

Bitch be crazy.

psychopath

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:12:49am

re: #466 FemNaziBitch

psychopath

I read the book but the movie is in my Netflix queue. I guess they didn’t change it much.

468
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:14:57am

OH LOOK A IDIOT

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:15:53am

Another one:

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:16:03am

re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice

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He should tell Bristol Palin that.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:16:34am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Then again, he retweeted this, probably hoping that her being a female means he’s not a misogynist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:16:41am
473
lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:17:16am

…

The Simpsons predicted President Trump - and his prompt bankrupting of the nation.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:18:28am

re: #469 The Vicious Babushka

Another one:

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Again, preach to Bristol about that.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:19:06am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heritage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:19:24am

Holy shit, I kicked over a fire-ant hill of Derp

477
Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:19:33am

re: #473 lawhawk

I can’t help but wonder if they went with the “Hillary is a lesbian” meme…

478
Jenner7  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:20:37am

‘The video is not good’: Cincinnati braces for footage release in campus cop killing of Sam Dubose

“It was not a good situation,” said City Manager Harry Black. “Someone has died that didn’t necessarily have to die, and I will leave it at that.”

rawstory.com

Shit.

479
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:20:53am

re: #369 darthstar

Was wondering how long it was going to take before the “booze, Buicks, broads and Buckley” conissouer was going to appear…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:21:06am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keep a watch on that. The picture is wrong for what they’re reporting. I don’t find it in the Borunda reporter timeline.

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Kid A  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:21:29am

I see that another “baby parts” video has been released. Run to your derp shelters.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:23:05am

re: #481 Kid A

I’m too exhausted to watch. Anyone willing to sum up?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:23:11am

re: #480 Decatur Deb

Keep a watch on that. The picture is wrong for what they’re reporting. I don’t find it in the Borunda reporter timeline.

The link goes to the El Paso Times and Daniel Borunda is the reporter.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:23:39am

SPLC Hatewatch webpage went down for a rebuild on Jul 14. Don’t know nothin’ ‘bout tweetn no tweets.

485
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:24:55am

I’m making a collection of these insane Tweets

486
wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:25:08am

[…]

Former Santa Fe County GOP treasurer Ignacio Padilla says he wasn’t acting as a party official when he organized the event last week to allow residents to hit a piñata that bore Trump’s likeness.

Padilla says he was exercising his right to free speech and believes Trump’s previous comments about Mexican immigrants and Mexican Americans belittles Latinos.

The group’s executive committee voted Padilla out of his leadership role the same day of the event.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:25:19am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

The link goes to the El Paso Times and Daniel Borunda is the reporter.

Oh, and I see the article is dated July 21.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:25:41am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

The link goes to the El Paso Times and Daniel Borunda is the reporter.

Klan terror (not assembly) crosses are like a couple quick cedar poles wrapped in rags. That thing looks like Burning Man.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:28:50am

From the EP Times:

“The first cross was “completely burned” when it was found by a church deacon in a planter near a window, Brewer said. He said that only the top portion of the second cross was burned. The church building was not damaged.

The crosses “are probably between your knee and your thigh high. We have planters outside, whoever did it put it only in the planters,” Brewer said.”em>

elpasotimes.com

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:31:18am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Photo is from luxembourg buergbrennen according to Google

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:32:04am

re: #490 Timothy Watson

Photo is from luxembourg buergbrennen according to Google

Somebody’s screwing with SPLC’c credibility, then.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:32:29am

re: #490 Timothy Watson

2002 picture from Luxembourg, posted on Wikipedia:
Image: File:Cross-burning_Junglinster.jpg

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:33:32am

OFFS:

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:34:36am

re: #490 Timothy Watson

ouch

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:34:40am

re: #492 Timothy Watson

2002 picture from Luxembourg, posted on Wikipedia:
Image: File:Cross-burning_Junglinster.jpg

I don’t do twitter or FB. Would someone call SPLC attention to this.

splcenter.org

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:35:13am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

From the EP Times:

Also in that article:

According to the FBI’s most recent annual report on hate crimes, El Paso had three hate crimes in 2013. All three cases were motivated by a bias over sexual orientation, the report stated.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:35:35am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit, I kicked over a fire-ant hill of Derp

NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO SEX!!!!! FREEDOM!! LIBERTY!!!1

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:37:53am
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Kid A  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:38:15am

Thrice-divorced misogynist just said that the majority of PP clinics are in urban areas. I think we know where he’s going with that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:39:28am

re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice

Just the womenz. The men need to sow their wild oats and be men. And they need some nice womenz who won’t refuse them.

///

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:41:47am

re: #471 Nyet

Probably not a good sign for HRC that she’s forced to go “full vagina” this early in her campaign.

I wonder what the male equivalent of this is.

Full pen……?

//

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:42:36am

re: #357 No Country For Old Haters

A term I never hear in this debate/discussion/entertainment of stupid is the word EMBRYO. Which is what most abortions are dealing with. I have talked to anti choice people before and they honestly seem to think that a baby is fully formed at conception and just has to get bigger to be born. Biology, how does it work?

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:45:57am

re: #499 Kid A

Thrice-divorced misogynist just said that the majority of PP clinics are in urban areas. I think we know where he’s going with that.

Surely it has nothing to do with access to public transportation and population?

504
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:48:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:48:58am

let’s be Machiavellian about this: Trump has nothing to lose from allegations of rape, he will just deny and deflect them and use them as proof of how he is being unfairly persecuted.

But it gives pundits a brilliant opportunity to remind us of Bill Clinton’s rape allegations…

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:52:00am

re: #505 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trump has nothing to lose from allegations of rape

If so, should this tell us something about the state of the US?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:52:38am
508
Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:53:09am

re: #506 Nyet

If so, should this tell us something about the state of the US?

More about the state of the Republican Party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:54:03am

re: #506 Nyet

If so, should this tell us something about the state of the US?

It’s really not news to most American women.

510
Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:54:07am

re: #508 Iwouldprefernotto

More about the state of the Republican Party.

One can’t rely only on the wingnuts to win the elections…

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:55:07am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

I’m making a collection of these insane Tweets

These people who advise “just don’t have sex unless you want pregnant”… I shudder to think what their marriages must be like.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:55:36am

So as not to be one-sided. I give you Putin:

theguardian.com

“He turned out to be a strong man, raped 10 women,” the Russian president was quoted by Russian media as saying at a meeting in Moscow with Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert. “I never would have expected it of him. He has surprised us all, we all envy him!”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:56:58am

re: #508 Iwouldprefernotto

More about the state of the Republican Party.

Be honest, it betrays something deeply pathological about the US that the modern GOP is even competitive let alone controls Congress and most of the States.

514
Teukka  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:57:33am

re: #421 Nyet

Well, I very much doubt that Sarah raped anyone. Donald though…

Oh, I was thinking of the rape apologetics side of things…

515
CuriousLurker  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:57:59am

re: #491 Decatur Deb

Somebody’s screwing with SPLC’c credibility, then.

I’m confused, how would this affect SPLC’s credibility? AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:58:12am

re: #512 Nyet

So as not to be one-sided. I give you Putin:

theguardian.com

Putie needs a good Brooklyn lawyer.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:59:25am

re: #515 CuriousLurker

I’m confused, how would this affect SPLC’s credibility? AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.

The way it showed up here, it was associated with the report.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:59:35am

re: #512 Nyet

Can you imagine Obama saying anything this classless? Be thankful.

(I can imagine Trump saying it though.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:00:47am
520
Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:01:04am

re: #499 Kid A

Thrice-divorced misogynist just said that the majority of PP clinics are in urban areas. I think we know where he’s going with that.

Really? Should they be 20 or 30 miles away from the people that desperately need them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:02:34am
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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:03:14am

re: #520 Eventual Carrion

Really? Should they be 20 or 30 miles away from the people that desperately need them?

Preferably far enough to require a motel stay for the necessary second visit or whatever bullshit they’ve set up.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:03:47am

re: #517 Decatur Deb

The way it showed up here, it was associated with the report.

littlegreenfootballs.com

That’s what I was talking about when I said, “AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.” Personally, I automatically assumed it was a file photo as it’s highly unlikely that the Klan would welcome a photographer to a cross burning. Then again, these days you never know…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:04:18am

re: #506 Nyet

If so, should this tell us something about the state of the US?

Certainly about the state of the GOP base. They are all about denying and rationalizing rape. And fundamentalist Christians remind us that Eve was the temptress…we expect men to be so passionate about their country that they occasionally have lose control, but when women do so, it is because they are foul temptresses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:04:56am

re: #510 Nyet

One can’t rely only on the wingnuts to win the elections…

Trump is not out to win an election, he is out to create a spectacle. For him, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:05:50am

re: #469 The Vicious Babushka

Another one:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:06:52am

re: #523 CuriousLurker

That’s what I was talking about when I said, “AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.” Personally, I automatically assumed it was a file photo as it’s highly unlikely that the Klan would welcome a photographer to a cross burning. Then again, these days you never know…

Could be taken for an LE or press photo. It’s under an SPLC blog logo, and thus discreditable. This is Alabama—we know our burning crosses.

528
No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:07:17am

re: #502 A Mom Anon

A term I never hear in this debate/discussion/entertainment of stupid is the word EMBRYO. Which is what most abortions are dealing with. I have talked to anti choice people before and they honestly seem to think that a baby is fully formed at conception and just has to get bigger to be born. Biology, how does it work?

You don’t get to be a social conservative by being a smart person. The smart SoCon kids grow out of it, and join us in reality, so they’re left with the dregs. People like Little Ben and Dumbass Nolte.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:15:23am

re: #523 CuriousLurker

That’s what I was talking about when I said, “AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.” Personally, I automatically assumed it was a file photo as it’s highly unlikely that the Klan would welcome a photographer to a cross burning. Then again, these days you never know…

It’s one thing to use a press or file photo of a cross burning, and you can find those online pretty easily, but to use a photo from a spring solstice festival in Luxembourg?

530
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:16:42am

re: #523 CuriousLurker

That’s what I was talking about when I said, “AFAICS they didn’t claim that it was a photo of the incident.” Personally, I automatically assumed it was a file photo as it’s highly unlikely that the Klan would welcome a photographer to a cross burning. Then again, these days you never know…

Somebody Google-imaged “Burning Cross” and grabbed the first photo that looked “dramatic”

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CuriousLurker  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:17:15am

Since I know not all of you spend time following the Pages, I ran across the following dissertation (form 2007) during the course of a discussion on a recent page Thanos posted about Peter Brimelow. It’s chilling—the abstract alone should be enough to give you nightmares. There’s a downloadable PDF at the link:

The Federalist Society and Movement Conservatism: How a Fractious Coalition on the Right Is Changing Constitutional Law and the Way We Talk and Think About It

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:18:22am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

I read the book but the movie is in my Netflix queue. I guess they didn’t change it much.

Having seen the movie and then read the book, I agree. There’s greater depth to the book, of course, but it’s not like they made anything brand new up. They did make some bits more, shall we say, spectacular.

One thing I found unsettling about the book - apart from the whole ‘Scott and Lacy Peterson turned inside out’ aspect - was the resentments that build up in a marriage, though obviously in the story they were carried much, much farther than they ever are in most marriages.

533
Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:19:03am

re: #530 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody Google-imaged “Burning Cross” and grabbed the first photo that looked “dramatic”

Which was lazy at best, or sloppy, or deliberately deceptive. The SPLC is more hated in some circles than PP.

534
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:24:23am

re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice

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Nothing about guys keeping it in their pants though, right? How many of the those same guys will say, “Okay, honey, I respect your right to control your own body,” when a woman refuses sex?

535
Iwouldprefernotto  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:28:40am

re: #534 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nothing about guys keeping it in their pants though, right? How many of the those same guys will say, “Okay, honey, I respect your right to control your own body,” when a woman refuses sex?

I always want to ask the guys “so you waited until marriage to have sex?”

If no, why not?
If yes, they just sound like dorks.

536
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:28:46am

re: #534 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Nothing about guys keeping it in their pants though, right? How many of the those same guys will say, “Okay, honey, I respect your right to control your own body,” when a woman refuses sex?

“I respect the right to control your body, but I am just so passionate about my country that I cannot control my throbbing conservative manhood. Now close your eyes and think of Ted Cruz!”

537
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:30:03am

We are dealing with a view of women that sees them as property, as assets to be maintained. If they have sex before marriage, it diminishes their value. That rule does not apply to men.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:30:48am

So far in my little collection of “What’s your Conservative alternative to Planned Parenthood” I have the following responses:

1. HURR HURR KEEP UR LEGS CLOSED!!!
2. HURR HURR PAY FOR UR OWN CONDOMS!!!111!
3. HURR HURR PRIVATE CHARITY LIKE TEH MAGDALENS!!!1!!!

539
Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:31:57am

re: #536 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“I respect the right to control your body, but I am just so passionate about my country that I cannot control myself. Now close your eyes and think of Ted Cruz!”

One cup of brain bleach please.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:33:55am

But Aiden also says HURR HURR PAY FOR IT YOUR SELF DON’T TAKES MUH TAX MONEYS!!!!11!!

541
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:36:24am

re: #505 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

let’s be Machiavellian about this: Trump has nothing to lose from allegations of rape, he will just deny and deflect them and use them as proof of how he is being unfairly persecuted.

But it gives pundits a brilliant opportunity to remind us of Bill Clinton’s rape allegations…

Trump is in the same Republican party as Rep. Henry Hyde. Hyde, as some of you may remember, declared that his adultery at age 42 was a “youthful indiscretion.” At the time Hyde was leading the drive to impeach Clinton.

The Republicans took up morality Musical Chairs years ago.

542
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:37:37am

re: #535 Iwouldprefernotto

I always want to ask the guys “so you waited until marriage to have sex?”

If no, why not?
If yes, they just sound like dorks.

I asked that very question once in such a discussion. I got ONE person who admitted to being a virgin when he married, and a whole lot of silence elsewhere.

543
Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:37:54am

re: #15 #FergusonFireside

Ivana will probably come out with a statement. Ah, it was nothing.

Because of $$.

And BOOM, you called it.

Ivana Trump rejects rape allegations, says she and Donald Trump are ‘the best of friends’

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allegro  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:38:50am

re: #540 The Vicious Babushka

But Aiden also says HURR HURR PAY FOR IT YOUR SELF DON’T TAKES MUH TAX MONEYS!!!!11!!

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So does he also think there should be no tax deductions for anything child related? Should all children be educated completely at the parent’s expense? A whole lot of tax money goes there. Very little goes to PP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:39:50am

re: #544 allegro

So does he also think there should be no tax deductions for anything child related? Should all children be educated completely at the parent’s expense? A whole lot of tax money goes there. Very little goes to PP.

I looked at Aiden’s profile. It’s an Ayn Rand Libertarian so believe in NO TAXZES!!!!!!!1!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:41:44am

re: #537 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We are dealing with a view of women that sees them as property, as assets to be maintained. If they have sex before marriage, it diminishes their value. That rule does not apply to men.

It’s not only women as property. There’s also the women as conquest aspect, where if a woman has been saving herself, and you’re the guy who gets her in bed, you must be a Real Man!

Conversely, of course, if you’re a man who doesn’t have any notches on his bedpost, you weren’t able to convince any women to ‘give themselves’ to you, so you’re not a Real Man.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:42:17am
548
lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:43:43am

re: #541 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Trump is in the same Republican party as Rep. Henry Hyde. Hyde, as some of you may remember, declared that his adultery at age 42 was a “youthful indiscretion.” At the time Hyde was leading the drive to impeach Clinton.

The Republicans took up morality Musical Chairs years ago.

The same Henry Hyde whose name is associated with the Hyde Amendment barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother. It is used to prevent funding from going to Planned Parenthood for abortion services.

The amendment is periodically revised by the anti-choice movement to further restrict funding and availability of abortion services. In the process, they further diminish access to health care for women.

549
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:44:38am

Amy thinks you can go to the ER and get any kind of treatment you want, just like Mitt Romney said.

550
Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:45:54am

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

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The required care is ER stabilization, nothing more. Tell them to look it up.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:46:12am

re: #549 The Vicious Babushka

Amy thinks you can go to the ER and get any kind of treatment you want, just like Mitt Romney said.

Also, ER’s are never busy and can accommodate any procedure or discomfort you have right away for no cost.

////

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:46:24am

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

It’s federal law that abortion is legal, but we see that the GOP wants to make it illegal.

It’s federal law that Obamacare exists, but the GOP wants to repeal it and replace it with vaporware.

It’s federal law that people cannot be denied care, but that puts the burden on emergency rooms - costing them far more than if the same procedures were done in clinics or urgent care or private facilities. It also means longer waiting times and reduced care for others when procedures are done in the ER that would be better done elsewhere.

And even with the federal law about care, people are routinely turfed. And people are left with hefty bills for going to the ER.

553
wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:46:39am

Arizona.

554
Jenner7  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:47:15am

This House committee is a fucking joke. They won’t let Kerry answer any questions they are asking.

555
Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:47:34am

re: #545 The Vicious Babushka

I looked at Aiden’s profile. It’s an Ayn Rand Libertarian so believe in NO TAXZES!!!!!!!1!

She is aware that Ayn Rand was pro-choice, right?

556
Jenner7  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:48:27am

The Police Killing of a Black Man in Mississippi Just Took Another Disturbing Turn

mic.com

557
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:48:38am

re: #555 Timothy Watson

She is aware that Ayn Rand was pro-choice, right?

Aiden is pro-choice, she is just against USING MY TAX MONEYS 2 PAY FOR ANYBODY’S HEALTH CARES!!!!!!!

558
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:49:15am

She posted this which in all fairness I included in the collection because it is a valid suggestion:

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allegro  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:49:37am

re: #552 lawhawk

It’s federal law that abortion is legal, but we see that the GOP wants to make it illegal.

It’s federal law that Obamacare exists, but the GOP wants to repeal it and replace it with vaporware.

It’s federal law that people cannot be denied care, but that puts the burden on emergency rooms - costing them far more than if the same procedures were done in clinics or urgent care or private facilities. It also means longer waiting times and reduced care for others when procedures are done in the ER that would be better done elsewhere.

And even with the federal law about care, people are routinely turfed. And people are left with hefty bills for going to the ER.

They don’t forgive those bills either. It results in harassment from collection agents and bad credit reports that can keep people from getting jobs, apartments, insurance, etc.

560
lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:49:43am

re: #554 Jenner7

This House committee is a fucking joke. They won’t let Kerry answer any questions they are asking.

You miss the point about committee hearings. They are about the committee members hearing themselves speak and pontificate - not to get answers from the person they’ve called before them. It allows them the ability to get free face-time with the cameras to show they’re doing something when all they’re doing is grandstanding.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:51:51am

re: #554 Jenner7

This House committee is a fucking joke. They won’t let Kerry answer any questions they are asking.

I often wonder why the ‘witnesses’ in hearings like this don’t ostentatiously turn to the other people at the witness table, or nearby and strike up a conversation, or pull out a newspaper, put on their glasses and start reading it.

I suppose the response would be, like Henry II in ‘The Lion In Winter’, “I’m vilifying you, for God’s sake — pay attention!”

562
Jenner7  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:51:58am

re: #560 lawhawk

At one point, Kerry looks flabbergasted.

If it were me, I’d ask why I’m even here, get up, and leave. But, I have no patience for assholes.

563
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:52:07am
564
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:52:36am
565
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:53:13am

re: #563 The Vicious Babushka

Whu cares? Moochers should save moneys and have insurance!! You know I is pro-life.

566
wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:54:21am

re: #564 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wish Moniz’s hair would stand up and stretch.

567
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:55:07am

re: #565 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Whu cares? Moochers should save moneys and have insurance!! You know I is pro-life.

568
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:56:23am
569
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:56:38am

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

570
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:58:46am

re: #566 wrenchwench

I wish Moniz’s hair would stand up and stretch.

Is some other enlightened congress critter asking Moniz about terrorist EMP’s?

/

571
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 10:59:16am

re: #568 The Vicious Babushka

One of the many ironies of libertarianism is that they would, if they could, be the greatest moochers of all time. They want a free ride on everything that’s been paid for by generations of taxpayers.

572
wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:00:22am

re: #570 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is some other enlightened congress critter asking Moniz about terrorist EMP’s?

/

Hair that one can move at will would be soooooo handy in a congressional hearing.

573
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:01:15am

So much stupids. I really opened up a can of worms.

That’s it, not talking to Aidan any more.

574
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:01:45am

Can’t put her on mute because that would damage the collection.

575
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:02:41am
@Aida_Tiger

@viciousbabushka @lightblue2 @tedcruz we are not in Victorian times (taxes were high then, btw). Everyone is educated and has access to bc

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

576
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:02:42am

re: #569 The Vicious Babushka

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

all rightwingers are divinely appointed authorities on the proper responsibilities of society

if it weren’t for them, we’d have to rely on outmoded methods such as elections and consensus which, like democracy, always lead to chaos and mob rule

577
jaunte  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:04:09am

re: #573 The Vicious Babushka

Everyone is educated

Umm,

578
SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:04:20am

re: #411 subterraneanhomesickalien

Just watched Gone Girl, and I gotta say……

Bitch be crazy.

It’s a great movie with a horrible ending. They really should have tested it and come up with a different conclusion.

579
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:04:29am

re: #573 The Vicious Babushka

…please stop assuming that people who want to end taxes are heartless, we actually care a lot.

Their tender regard for themselves is insuperable.

580
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:04:52am

re: #575 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone works, racism has ended, etc.

/

581
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:05:03am

re: #578 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It’s a great movie with a horrible ending. They really should have tested it and come up with a different conclusion.

Is the ending the same as in the book? Because the book has a terrible ending.

582
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:05:33am

re: #579 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Their tender regard for themselves is insuperable.

“We just want churches and private charities to take care of everyone which will work out fine.”

/

583
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:08:10am

we are not in Victorian times (taxes were high then, btw)

i wonder what he is thinking about in this era when federal income taxes were unconstitutional

government income at that time derived from import tariffs and likker taxes

584
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:08:54am

re: #582 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“We just want churches and private charities to take care of everyone which will work out fine.”

/

Also, “We want well-maintained infrastructure, good schools, clean air and water, emergency services, a robust military, etc. We just want someone else to pay for them.”

585
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:09:04am

re: #583 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

we are not in Victorian times (taxes were high then, btw)

i wonder what he is thinking about in this era when federal income taxes were unconstitutional

government income at that time derived from import tariffs and likker taxes

You can’t talk to a Libertarian about actual history because all they think about is that novel that changed their life. I’m not talking about Lord of the Rings.

586
SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:10:03am

re: #581 The Vicious Babushka

Is the ending the same as in the book? Because the book has a terrible ending.

Click to Reveal

She impregnates herself with the hubby’s sperm sample and forces him to stay with her

EDIT - I hadn’t realized it was based on a book

587
Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:11:38am

re: #585 The Vicious Babushka

You can’t talk to a Libertarian about actual history because all they think about is that novel that changed their life. I’m not talking about Lord of the Rings.

Odd, innit, that the AV Club of politics is composed of Randian supermen.

588
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:11:43am

re: #586 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

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Not clicking on that because I haven’t watched the movie yet. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:12:39am

re: #568 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Government is not some alien force visited on us from outside. It is formed by our common consent, and it is the conscious arm of society.

We as a society do not feel that the poor, when sick or injured, should be denied treatment, so we require hospitals to take at least some steps.

We as a society do not feel that the poor should have to live on the street and starve, so we provide some minimal funds, make it possible for them to buy food, provide some minimal shelter.

We have the authority to do this, because we created the government, and we continue to recreate every election. We are thus bound by the laws it passes on our behalf.

590
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:13:44am

re: #589 Blind Frog Belly White

Government is not some alien force visited on us from outside. It is formed by our common consent, and it is the conscious arm of society.

That is why I cannot put up with these cries of “tyranny” or “tax slavery” from these mouth-breathers.

591
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:13:45am
592
ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:14:31am

re: #586 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

[Embedded content]

I have not seen the movie or read the book, but I do know the basic plot.

Why is the ending horrible in your opinion?

I like movies that don’t end in an “and everyone lived happily ever after” style. Why? Because that isn’t the way life is all the time. And, sometimes an untidy ending sticks with the reader/viewer longer because it keeps making them think.

Art isn’t always pretty, nor should it be.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:17:36am

re: #592 ObserverArt

Click to Reveal

I’m hip to that, but the way this ends, there actually isn’t an end. It feels like they ended the movie in the middle of the story.

594
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:20:41am

re: #581 The Vicious Babushka

Is the ending the same as in the book? Because the book has a terrible ending.

The book has an unhappy ending, but one that I think is consistent with the rest of the story. Mrs. FBW was quite emphatically upset by the ending, but in retrospect, I think it’s of a piece with the rest of the story and the ‘happy ending’ would be the easy way out.

Click to Reveal

And note that as written, Nick has a certain ambivalence, which Go picks up on, about Amy. And as the book points out, hate is not the opposite of love.

595
SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:23:17am

re: #594 Blind Frog Belly White

Click to Reveal

I don’t care about happy endings, sometimes the villain has to get away with the crime. I just feel like the movie ends before the story ends. That’s what I object to.

596
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:30:47am

re: #595 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

[Embedded content]

Click to Reveal

There are a number of interviews with the author where she discusses this, and the idea that the story doesn’t end when we stop being privy to it. She says she doesn’t see them living happily ever after, but feels that’s another story.

I guess, in the end, it’s supposed to leave you feeling somewhat anxious and unsatisfied. It does that. The movie in particular leaves you saying, “WHAT? She gets away with it?” Reminds me of The Princess Bride, when the Grandfather reveals that Westly doesn’t kill Humperdinck, that Humperdinck lives - “Jesus, Grandpa! Why did you read me this thing?!?”

597
sagehen  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:08:06pm

re: #589 Blind Frog Belly White

We as a society do not feel that the poor, when sick or injured, should be denied treatment, so we require hospitals to take at least some steps.

We as a society do not feel that the poor should have to live on the street and starve, so we provide some minimal funds, make it possible for them to buy food, provide some minimal shelter.

For anyone who understands math, we don’t even do these things out of generosity, or concern for the poor and sick and injured. We do these things because sick people left to wander may be contagious with something we’re going to catch. Or they’ll die and decompose and that’ll get into the water supply. Food stamps and public housing are cheaper than the amount of bodyguards and cops and judges and prisons we’d need to deal with hordes of starving desperate homeless.

The fact that we can walk the streets mostly in safety, let our kids ride their bikes, buy something from a food cart that will be pleasant to eat while we walk, that we don’t have to live behind 12-foot walls topped with razor wire — those are just a nice bonus.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2015 • 12:47:09pm

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

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When you are dying and go to the emergency room, no they can’t. If you want to see a doctor to keep up with your overall well being and probably keep you out of the emergency room, forget it. The hospital will just have to recoup the money from patients with insurance, so the insurance will raise their rates to cover you (and the added expense for the patients that can’t pay). So they are still going to pay more, just not in taxes, and the person that needed the emergency care because their ailment had gone undetected too far dies. Hmmm, something wrong with that picture.


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