Video: How Would Donald Trump Attack Donald Trump?

Trump says, “Trump is racist and stupid”
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This craftily-edited parody answers the question “How Would Donald Trump Attack Donald Trump?” For the curious, this is made with 142 audio edits in total, compiled from 37 different Trump interviews.

A sarcastic parody for anyone who’s sick of touchy-feely commercials about hipsters.

A Comedy Parody by Peggy and Steve
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339 comments
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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:10:43pm

The final sentence where he says “losing bigly” is actually “losing big league”

So it turns out “bigly” is not an actual word, the best word.

I haz a sad :(

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2016 • 4:13:39pm

This should be a lesson to the gullible rightwing masses in the power of context distortion, lies by omission, and creative editing.

(To be fair, there are also gullible lefties, but they are busy buying Che shirts and shopping for organic tofu rather than mobilizing to put their own guy in the White House.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 4:14:31pm

Great to have a new thread. The last one is starting to get really stinky.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 4:15:06pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great to have a new thread. The last one is starting to get really stinky.

Well, given the name of his last incarnation, it should be no surprise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 31, 2016 • 4:15:17pm

This video is amazing. And also sad in a way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 4:17:10pm

well, shit…

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 4:17:23pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great to have a new thread. The last one is starting to get really stinky.

Smells like feet.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:18:23pm
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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2016 • 4:18:46pm

Mentally unstable.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:19:38pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m waiting for him to say he masterbates to photos of himself.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 4:19:46pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

re: #9 Stanley Sea

In other words: Vote for me because I’m an attention whore.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:20:25pm

“interviewed” is Trumpspeak for “blown”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:20:26pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for him to say he masterbates to photos of himself.

During sex, he cries out his own name.

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mmmirele  May 31, 2016 • 4:21:25pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, shit…

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We’re going to have to have that discussion about abortion that people have been trying to avoid. As a woman, I want the choice to be able to end a pregnancy if faced with something like this. I don’t want to be forced into martyrdom for someone else’s religious belief.

ETA: The fertility hourglass ran out a few years ago, so I’m not in a position to worry, but I do have younger friends and relations…

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:21:38pm

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

During sex, he cries out his own name.

He has Melania wear a mask with his face on it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 31, 2016 • 4:22:53pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for him to say he masterbates to photos of himself.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:23:11pm

re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus

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Thanks man.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 4:24:26pm

re: #14 mmmirele

We’re going to have to have that discussion about abortion that people have been trying to avoid. As a woman, I want the choice to be able to end a pregnancy if faced with something like this. I don’t want to be forced into martyrdom for someone else’s religious belief.

This is going to be putting a huge amount of pressure on the GOP and the Fundamentalist church types. In other words stuff just got real.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 4:25:18pm

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:27:38pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

“interviewed” is Trumpspeak for “blown”

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Remember to leave a $20 on the dresser.

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2016 • 4:28:30pm
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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 4:28:40pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

{{{hugs}}}

I have a friend of mine with MS who is going through the same thing. It was some random change with their insurance that “shouldn’t” have affected the price of her prescriptions, but yet somehow, it did.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:28:56pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

Whoa. That’s not a donut hole, that’s a cliff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 4:29:24pm
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:29:24pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

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Sean will have to fight Jim Hoft.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 4:30:08pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 4:30:32pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

I don’t want to upding this because that’s crummy news but that really, really sucks. I wish we could get things like this addressed, but I just don’t see it happening in the current political climate. :(

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 4:31:25pm

re: #27 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t want to upding this because that’s crummy news but that really, really sucks. I wish we could get things like this addressed, but I just don’t see it happening in the current political climate. :(

Goes back to my basic three human rights that I feel are the government’s responsibility: Freedom, health, education. Wingnuts are all about the first one, but the other two… BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:32:03pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Sean will have to fight Jim Hoft.

SMOTI gets sloppy seconds.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:33:27pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kristol is like a clock that’s running at almost the right rate, but is set far off of accurate time. It will occasionally be correct, entirely by accident, on its way to becoming more and more incorrect again.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2016 • 4:33:37pm

There was a time when people on Medicare didn’t get any prescription coverage help at all. That was back in the mists of time, circa 2005.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 4:33:54pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

Damn. I hope something can be done to work that out. Is there any kind of assistance or charity available? Thoughts to both of you. It might be a pain to do, but I’d also contact your local and state politicians/organizations and even the FDA. Seems you would not be the only ones facing this problem…strength in numbers.

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 31, 2016 • 4:33:59pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember to leave a $20 on the dresser.

Knowing Trump, he’ll have conveniently “forgotten” his wallet.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:34:05pm

Z0MG THIS IS A REAL THREAT!!!! WHEAR IS TEH SEEKRIT SERVICE!!!1!!
Does this video exist anywhere on the Internet other than at wingnut Mark Dice’s site? How do we know this is not his own kid threatening to kill Donald Trump?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 4:34:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:34:47pm

re: #33 InfidelOfFreedom

Knowing Trump, he’ll have “conveniently” forgotten his wallet.

“Thanks! I’ll pay you next time I’m in town, baby.”

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:35:18pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s more scary than Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 4:35:19pm

re: #27 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t want to upding this because that’s crummy news but that really, really sucks. I wish we could get things like this addressed, but I just don’t see it happening in the current political climate. :(

Well, just to add insult to injury, our income actually did go up two years ago, but our rent won’t be reevaluated to reflect that till this October. It’ll probably go up by about $180—but maybe with this, not as much. Who knows?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:35:40pm

Conservatives just don’t get it.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 4:36:17pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

Goes back to my basic three human rights that I feel are the government’s responsibility: Freedom, health, education. Wingnuts are all about the first one, but the other two… BOOTSTRAPS!!!!

They really are not about freedom either.

Oh, for them?

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 31, 2016 • 4:37:35pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

How could someone named “French” be so anti-sex? Maybe he should change his name to Vatican.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 4:37:38pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 4:38:02pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

bigly (ˈbɪɡlɪ)
adj
archaic comfortably habitable

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2016 • 4:38:45pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

That’s more scary than Trump.

Don’t sweat it. He’s Kristol’s pick. Couldn’t win if both Trump and Hillary dropped dead before election day.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 4:38:55pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Z0MG THIS IS A REAL THREAT!!!! WHEAR IS TEH SEEKRIT SERVICE!!!1!!
Does this video exist anywhere on the Internet other than at wingnut Mark Dice’s site? How do we know this is not his own kid threatening to kill Donald Trump?

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Total crap from an Alex Jones cult member. Notice he never says where he found this video. He probably created it himself.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:41:39pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

Don’t sweat it. He’s Kristol’s pick. Couldn’t win if both Trump and Hillary dropped dead before election day.

Oh I know. I’m just saying it speaks to how the conservatives who find fault with Trump are equally nutso.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 4:42:29pm

re: #41 InfidelOfFreedom

How could someone named “French” be so anti-sex? Maybe he should change his name to Vatican.

Baron Von No Bonerz.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 4:42:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:42:50pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

Don’t sweat it. He’s Kristol’s pick. Couldn’t win if both Trump and Hillary dropped dead before election day.

The French Kiss of Death?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 4:43:03pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

That’s more scary than Trump.

They’re all more scary than Trump. Literally. That’s the ridiculous hole we’ve dug for ourselves.

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 4:44:01pm

You failed.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 4:45:10pm

The mind of a Trump supporter.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 4:45:34pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  May 31, 2016 • 4:45:49pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Hope he at least has the decency to carry tampons…

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2016 • 4:46:30pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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The local ACORN militia needs to create a perv patrol to start watching for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 4:49:15pm

re: #51 Nyet

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You failed.

I think the last thing he succeeded at - apart from turning a total lack of prognostic ability into a lucrative career - was killing the Clinton healthcare initiative. Put the whole thing off for 15 years.

His next magical trick was PNAC and advocating for the overthrow of Saddam, because Iraq was a modern secularist nation with no history of sectarian violence which would take to Western pluralistic democracy like a duck to water.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 4:49:46pm

re: #51 Nyet

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You failed.

Shit, I still remember Kristol, Perle, and Wolfowitz as the fabulists of the “Window of Vulnerability” that Ronny Ray-gun rode into the White House. He’s been fractally wrong about everything for 40 years that I know about.

Edited to add an “f”. Too much Big Bang Theory.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 4:52:16pm

re: #51 Nyet

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You failed.

I know he can’t, or he’d be too despondent to appear in public.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 4:52:34pm

It goes to donaldjtrump.com.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 4:54:53pm

Yo.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 4:55:20pm

re: #60 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Yo.

Sup.

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Jenner7  May 31, 2016 • 4:56:23pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

Wonder where he got that information…

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 4:58:06pm

re: #60 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Yo.

Oy.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 4:58:42pm

re: #62 Jenner7

Wonder where he got that information…

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Could you imagine if Hillary or Bernie called a press conference and then whined about how “unfair” the media is being to them?

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2016 • 5:00:59pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Could you imagine if Hillary or Bernie called a press conference and then whined about how “unfair” the media is being to them?

Every single fucking day.

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CuriousLurker  May 31, 2016 • 5:01:22pm

I always have to LOL at people who fondly reminisce about how wonderfully diverse & tolerant LGF was back in the pre-purge days before Charles became a traitor to the RWNJ cause. I wonder how I would’ve been received here circa 2006-2007…?

I lied—I know the answer. Below are the front page LGF articles from 5/31/2007. The last one of the day is at the top of the list, the earliest at the bottom:

• Thompson on Israel: Living in Terror
• UN Springs Into Action, Syria Shocked
• AP Flying Pig Watch
• A Guest Post By Duncan Hunter
• Religion of Peace Strikes Again in Thailand
• The Protocols of the Daily Kos
• Norway Hands $10M to Hamas
• US Media Ignore Al Qaeda Torture Manual
• Pope Benedict Learns His Lesson
• Religiously Motivated Slayings in Anaheim?

I’m sure I would’ve been welcomed warmly and treated with great fairness & civility. //

May 31, 2006 is even better, but I think I’ve made my point.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:01:22pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Could you imagine if Hillary or Bernie called a press conference and then whined about how “unfair” the media is being to them?

And which of the three would be right, but doesn’t dare say it?

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CuriousLurker  May 31, 2016 • 5:03:35pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

Sorry to hear this. Have you tried reaching out to the manufacturer? Sometimes they’ll pay part or even all of the cost.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 5:04:56pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

Oh I remember those days. It’s my theory that Day Zero of the Great LGF Purge was when Charles posted something critical of the pro-creationist documentary “Expelled.” That got the crazies going real good around here!

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:05:35pm
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:06:14pm

re: #70 Nyet

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That’s what an establishment candidate would do.:/

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:06:15pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

I always have to LOL at people who fondly reminisce about how wonderfully diverse & tolerant LGF was back in the pre-purge days before Charles became a traitor to the RWNJ cause. I wonder how I would’ve been received here circa 2006-2007…?

I lied—I know the answer. Below are the front page LGF articles from 5/31/2007. The last one of the day at the top of the list, the earliest at the bottom:

• Thompson on Israel: Living in Terror
• UN Springs Into Action, Syria Shocked
• AP Flying Pig Watch
• A Guest Post By Duncan Hunter
• Religion of Peace Strikes Again in Thailand
• The Protocols of the Daily Kos
• Norway Hands $10M to Hamas
• US Media Ignore Al Qaeda Torture Manual
• Pope Benedict Learns His Lesson
• Religiously Motivated Slayings in Anaheim?

I’m sure I would’ve been welcomed warmly and treated with great fairness & civility. //

May 31, 2006 is even better, but I think I’ve made my point.

Ah, the good old days!
/

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:06:31pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

I always have to LOL at people who fondly reminisce about how wonderfully diverse & tolerant LGF was back in the pre-purge days before Charles became a traitor to the RWNJ cause. I wonder how I would’ve been received here circa 2006-2007…?

I lied—I know the answer. Below are the front page LGF articles from 5/31/2007. The last one of the day at the top of the list, the earliest at the bottom:

• Thompson on Israel: Living in Terror
• UN Springs Into Action, Syria Shocked
• AP Flying Pig Watch
• A Guest Post By Duncan Hunter
• Religion of Peace Strikes Again in Thailand
• The Protocols of the Daily Kos
• Norway Hands $10M to Hamas
• US Media Ignore Al Qaeda Torture Manual
• Pope Benedict Learns His Lesson
• Religiously Motivated Slayings in Anaheim?

I’m sure I would’ve been welcomed warmly and treated with great fairness & civility. //

May 31, 2006 is even better, but I think I’ve made my point.

Diverse and tolerant? *snort* Have any of these people even met Mandy?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:06:38pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Could you imagine if Hillary or Bernie called a press conference and then whined about how “unfair” the media is being to them?

No kidding.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:07:32pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Diverse and tolerant? *snort* Have any of these people even met Mandy?

Yep.
Go piss up…
Nevermind.
:P

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:07:47pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Fuck the people, where’s mah revolution!

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:07:49pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Diverse and tolerant? *snort* Have any of these people even met Mandy?

Mandy called me homophobic for a crack I made about Palin. Pretty rich given that Palin is probably one of the most homophobic people ever on a ticket.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 5:08:20pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Diverse and tolerant? *snort* Have any of these people even met Mandy?

Mandy, Fist, I don’t think OJoe is banned yet.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:08:51pm

TFK.
Wheee!

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:09:15pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Mandy called me homophobic for a crack I made about Palin. Pretty rich given that Palin is probably one of the most homophobic people ever on a ticket.

I think it says a lot for my personal growth that I used to be friends with Mandy back when I was crazy. I grew out of it.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:10:01pm

Evolution;
Some peoples has it, some don’t.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:10:07pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

It’s just sad.

He pretty clearly only comes back around election season to stir things up and/or gloat. No interest in a real discussion or being part of the community. Textbook definition of a troll and kind of pathetic that this is what gives him any sort of enjoyment in life.

Healthy people are capable of moving on.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2016 • 5:10:38pm

General Mills Recall Notice

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 31, 2016 • 5:10:50pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:11:06pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

General Mills Recall Notice

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Oh god dammit.
Off to the pantry…

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:11:14pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

Mandy, Fist, I don’t think OJoe is banned yet.

I saw the zombie a few days (weeks?) ago I think. Or am I hallucinating?

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:11:34pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

General Mills Recall Notice

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Shit. That’s bad. Very, very bad. I drive by the General Mills headquarters every day on my way to work…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:11:44pm

re: #68 CuriousLurker

Sorry to hear this. Have you tried reaching out to the manufacturer? Sometimes they’ll pay part or even all of the cost.

We’ll certainly be calling around everywhere—thanks for the suggestion. Maybe with this increased irreducible expense, the DSHS will go back to paying her Medicare coupons, which they stopped doing when our income went up two years ago. That and maybe our rent won’t go up as much and we can possibly weather it. Thanks for just letting me vent though, everybody.

Totally off-topic: Why weren’t stamps always “Forever” stamps?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:11:57pm

re: #86 Nyet

I saw the zombie a few days (weeks?) ago I think. Or am I hallucinating?

Pretty sure you are right.

(And not hallucinating. At least on that topic.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:12:21pm

re: #70 Nyet

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That is a thing of rare and crystalline beauty….

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:12:49pm

re: #82 klys (maker of Silmarils)

8Ku49ZzKPKVZN3IxNvPrxg9doZydTbU4hn78fKLP04V3P0zwSmF3AevsZKBpiBAiJZvfNrwJ58XI29wJpYSXDnddPZ1jmfF2WoHngdyBDjlNgFvSkd8n+3lquBINcD5bYQRIZ3XTKsTAd8docZj5OcP5sao8LOIU

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:12:59pm

re: #88 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We’re great for venting.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:13:29pm

re: #92 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We’re great for venting.

Good listeners, all of us.

…Now, what were you saying?

[Turns up hearing aid.]

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 5:13:55pm

re: #86 Nyet

I saw the zombie a few days (weeks?) ago I think. Or am I hallucinating?

zombie. Whoa. That’s definitely one that goes waaay back.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 5:14:09pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

General Mills Recall Notice

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I only use King Arthur flour.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 5:14:13pm

re: #85 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Oh god dammit.
Off to the pantry…

No need to completely freak out yet:

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota - General Mills is collaborating with health officials to investigate an ongoing, multistate outbreak of E. coli O121 that may be potentially linked to Gold Medal flour, Wondra flour, and Signature Kitchens flour (sold in Safeway, Albertsons, Jewel, Shaws, Vons, United, Randalls, and Acme). Out of an abundance of caution, a voluntary recall is being made. To date, E. coli O121 has not been found in any General Mills flour products or in the flour manufacturing facility, and the company has not been contacted directly by any consumer reporting confirmed illnesses related to these products.

State and federal authorities have been researching 38 occurrences of illnesses across 20 states related to a specific type of E. coli (E. coli O121), between December 21, 2015, and May 3, 2016. While attempting to track the cause of the illness, CDC found that approximately half of the individuals reported making something homemade with flour at some point prior to becoming ill. Some reported using a General Mills brand of flour.

Based on the information that has been shared with General Mills, some of the ill consumers may have also consumed raw dough or batter. Consumers are reminded to not consume any raw products made with flour. Flour is an ingredient that comes from milling wheat, something grown outdoors that carries with it risks of bacteria which are rendered harmless by baking, frying or boiling. Consumers are reminded to wash their hands, work surfaces, and utensils thoroughly after contact with raw dough products or flour, and to never eat raw dough or batter.

generalmills.com

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PhillyPretzel  May 31, 2016 • 5:14:42pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

I just switched to King Arthur. kingarthurflour.com

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:15:17pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

zombie. Whoa. That’s definitely one that goes waaay back.

I meant Ojoe (hence ‘the’).

But yeah, zombie too. That guy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:15:31pm

re: #91 Nyet

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:15:41pm

re: #81 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Evolution;
Some peoples has it, some don’t.

Confused Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because Cincinnati gorilla never became human

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Jay C  May 31, 2016 • 5:16:28pm

re: #88 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Totally off-topic: Why weren’t stamps always “Forever” stamps?

Supposedly because some years back, the Postal Service decided it would be a good idea to do away with set values on US stamps because - again, supposedly - it was easier (or cheaper) to just raise the price of stamps rather than have to re-print everything every time there was a rate rise. Makes little sense to me, but then, its the USPS….

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2016 • 5:16:34pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Mandy called me homophobic for a crack I made about Palin. Pretty rich given that Palin is probably one of the most homophobic people ever on a ticket.

That’s odd. Why would a certified RWNJ use ‘homophobic’ as a insult? They approve of that.

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:16:57pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

IguSahnmsCNsz0CMVO2722IxI3VWb8g5AiTc8Yku70xgE+NyMQU9Rfe1dQUUSHaN6qoj0AacrzAW9CV3f19Bmgqh8Yi5asLh

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:16:59pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

General Mills Recall Notice

[Embedded content]

Oh, good—the one time I buy a name brand…. Gotta look at the dates now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:18:08pm

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Confused Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because Cincinnati gorilla never became human

Why would he need to? Humans already exist.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:19:51pm

Now I have no flour.
Thanks Obama.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:20:26pm

re: #106 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Now I have no flour.
Thanks Obama.

I’m in ur flourz, poisoning ur foodz.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:21:00pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

No need to completely freak out yet:

generalmills.com

No.
FREAKOUT!!!lkdjtaoyih
/:P

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 5:21:17pm

Random nerd-out moment of the day.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:21:32pm

re: #106 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Now I have no flour.
Thanks Obama.

Obama defloured you?

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:21:40pm

re: #106 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Now I have no flour.
Thanks Obama.

And Hillary.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:21:55pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Obama defloured you?

Hahaha, boom!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:22:28pm

re: #101 Jay C

Supposedly because some years back, the Postal Service decided it would be a good idea to do away with set values on US stamps because - again, supposedly - it was easier (or cheaper) to just raise the price of stamps rather than have to re-print everything every time there was a rate rise. Makes little sense to me, but then, its the USPS….

Don’t mind me—I bought 100 stamps once and then had to go out and buy 96 2¢ stamps to go with them. 35 years later and I’m still steamed about it….

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 5:22:58pm

re: #98 Nyet

I meant Ojoe (hence ‘the’).

But yeah, zombie too. That guy.

Yes Ojoe was here a couple of weeks ago.

No pitch for the Whigs that time, though.

(It is the Whigs, right? Memory ain’t what it used to be.)

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:23:31pm

re: #114 makeitstop

Yes Ojoe was here a couple of weeks ago.

No pitch for the Whigs that time, though.

(It is the Whigs, right? Memory ain’t what it used to be.)

Yes, you got that one right. Hard to forget that one, for me at least.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 5:23:35pm
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 5:23:59pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

Random nerd-out moment of the day.

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Very interesting image file type recreating that!

I did not know that could be done by code on a ‘net server. Hmmmm.

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 5:24:40pm

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Confused Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because Cincinnati gorilla never became human

Desperate pandering to his shrinking listener base.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2016 • 5:24:44pm
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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 5:24:53pm
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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:25:44pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

Very interesting image file type recreating that!

I did not know that could be done by code on a ‘net server. Hmmmm.

Server side processing languages can run a number of system commands, as long as the server is configured to allow the Web server process to access them. You can definitely run into security risks if you do it wrong, but it’s trivially easy to avoid that sort of mistake if you’re competent.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:25:54pm

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Confused Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because Cincinnati gorilla never became human

See, that’s the argument that makes me wanna headdesk.
“If we evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys???”

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2016 • 5:26:20pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tulsa, Oklahoma reserve deputy Robert Bates gets 4 years in unarmed man’s fatal shooting

I hope the Sheriff that facilitated faking all of his training paperwork gets an equal term

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:27:19pm

re: #122 Not a Sparkly Vampire

See, that’s the argument that makes me wanna headdesk.
“If we evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys???”

Because your parents dropped dead the second you were born, right?

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 5:27:44pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Like here and at some forums…a time limit to edit is fine. Because as we all well know, you usually identify the error a few seconds after posting. Maybe that is too much to ask Twitter to implement due to some kind of a tech reason.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:28:04pm

re: #122 Not a Sparkly Vampire

See, that’s the argument that makes me wanna headdesk.
“If we evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys???”

So much wrong, distilled into one small, easy-to-carry sentence.

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Jay C  May 31, 2016 • 5:28:04pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t mind me—I bought 100 stamps once and then had to go out and buy 96 2¢ stamps to go with them. 35 years later and I’m still steamed about it….

I hear you: when my mother-in-law died in 2000, we inherited almost an entire roll of 33-cent stamps: and in all that time, the USPS seems to have never issued a stamp which would bring them up to regular first-class value with just one stamp. I find that offensive.

Also: when did they take the “¢” symbol off a standard keyboard?? I still look for it above the “6” , but no more…..

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Nyet  May 31, 2016 • 5:30:53pm

That gorilla had more heart and brain than Limpboob.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:31:17pm

re: #127 Jay C

I hear you: when my mother-in-law died in 2000, we inherited almost an entire roll of 33-cent stamps: and in all that time, the USPS seems to have never issued a stamp which would bring them up to regular first-class value with just one stamp. I find that offensive.

Also: when did they take the “¢” symbol off a standard keyboard?? I still look for above the “6” , but no more…..

I don’t know—you’re right, I’d forgotten where it was on a typewriter. I’ve got a Mac, so it’s option + 4 (dollar sign).

The annoying thing to me on computer keyboards is that you have to unshift for periods and commas when typing in caps.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:31:43pm

re: #128 Nyet

Thay gorilla had more heart and brain than Limpboob.

Better looking too.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 5:32:34pm

re: #121 thedopefishlives

Server side processing languages can run a number of system commands, as long as the server is configured to allow the Web server process to access them. You can definitely run into security risks if you do it wrong, but it’s trivially easy to avoid that sort of mistake if you’re competent.

With PHP there are functions that can call shell commands and return their standard output. You just have to make sure any user-submitted strings are properly escaped with escapeshellcmd() or escapeshellarg().

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2016 • 5:33:25pm

re: #122 Not a Sparkly Vampire

See, that’s the argument that makes me wanna headdesk.
“If we evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys???”

Assumes facts not in evidence: i.e., existence of a creationist argument that doesn’t make any intelligent listener headdesk.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 5:34:27pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t mind me—I bought 100 stamps once and then had to go out and buy 96 2¢ stamps to go with them. 35 years later and I’m still steamed about it….

Zedushka still has teh sads because he paid $500 for a 50MB hard drive in 1990.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 5:34:30pm

oh…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:34:34pm

re: #129 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t know—you’re right, I’d forgotten where it was on a typewriter. I’ve got a Mac, so it’s option + 4 (dollar sign).

The annoying thing to me on computer keyboards is that you have to unshift for periods and commas when typing in caps.

Not on any keyboards I use.

HERE, LET ME SHOW YOU. SEE?

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2016 • 5:35:31pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

So much wrong, distilled into one small, easy-to-carry sentence.

That’s the only real talent creationists have —- cramming fractally infinite amounts of pure willful stupidity into their tiny minds.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:36:59pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

[Embedded content]

Yeah this is why you’re full of shit when you cry about Trump, Mittens.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:36:59pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka still has teh sads because he paid $500 for a 50MB hard drive in 1990.

Was it this one?

FIVE WHOLE MB!!!!
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 5:37:01pm

I’d use King Arthur Flour more, but I get tired of picking out the tiny swords.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 5:37:47pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

Assumes facts not in evidence: i.e., existence of a creationist argument that doesn’t make any intelligent listener headdesk.

That’s only because creationism became insane as soon as we started to understand genetics, and YEC became insane as soon as we started to understand geology.

There was a time, many years ago, when Creationism was a belief that wasn’t completely unreasonable. Now Creationists have to believe that science is the devil’s trickery.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:38:28pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

Not on any keyboards I use.

HERE, LET ME SHOW YOU. SEE?

Your , and . keys aren’t < and >, shifted?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:38:56pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka still has teh sads because he paid $500 for a 50MB hard drive in 1990.

Don’t show him this;
amazon.com

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 5:39:05pm

re: #62 Jenner7

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:39:34pm

re: #141 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Your , and . keys aren’t < and >, shifted?

Nope. Only the letters.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 5:40:20pm

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Zedushka still has teh sads because he paid $500 for a 50MB hard drive in 1990.

LMAO. I remember dad spending a couple hundred bucks to upgrade a 16k TRS-80 Md 3 to 48k.

48k.

Not 48MB. Not 48GB. 48k.

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ipsos  May 31, 2016 • 5:40:26pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

I so want to get a time machine, find the engineers who built that, and show them the 128GB microSD card in my phone that cost me less than $100.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 5:40:51pm

Third party unicorn David French is also the guy who went maximum hot take on the subject of Prince’s death for NRO.

The sort of man I’d like to have a tall glass of Shut The Fuck Up with.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 5:41:00pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

I’d use King Arthur Flour more, but I get tired of picking out the tiny swords.

I use a sword sifter. It keeps my tarts from getting too watery.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 5:41:14pm

The Beck-SiriusXM thing has certainly set off some wingnuts around the net.

Just from a brief survey, I’d say Drumpfskind has many for rabid fans than Beck.

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PhillyPretzel  May 31, 2016 • 5:41:20pm

¢

I miss this character.

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 5:42:06pm

¢a¢tu$

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Great White Snark  May 31, 2016 • 5:42:52pm

re: #143 lawhawk

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 5:43:08pm

re: #149 freetoken

I’ve had an outpouring of white supremacists hit my timeline after today’s responsa to Trump’s donation derp and ongoing opposition to Trump’s policies. Apparently, being against a police state that is required to round up illegal aliens is going to destroy the nation and the white race.

They’ve been summarily hit with blocking for sheer dumbassery.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 5:43:14pm

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

I use a sword sifter. It keeps my tarts from getting too watery.

On the plus side, apparently I’m the rightful king of a rail station in Kent.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 5:43:38pm

re: #151 jaunte

¢a¢tu$

I see you are a Centum speaker, not a Satem speaker.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:43:43pm

re: #147 The Ghost of a Flea

Third party unicorn David French is also the guy who went maximum hot take on the subject of Prince’s death for NRO.

The sort of man I’d like to have a tall glass of Shut The Fuck Up with.

No kidding and the author makes a great point how when Andrew Breitbart died, the right acted like JFK died.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:44:40pm

re: #153 lawhawk

I’ve had an outpouring of white supremacists hit my timeline after today’s responsa to Trump’s donation derp and ongoing opposition to Trump’s policies. Apparently, being against a police state that is required to round up illegal aliens is going to destroy the nation and the white race.

They’ve been summarily hit with blocking for sheer dumbassery.

Eh. The white race is overrated, anyway.

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No Depression  May 31, 2016 • 5:45:12pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Obama defloured you?

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Jay C  May 31, 2016 • 5:45:33pm

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

¢

I miss this character.

I do, too: it made a lot of sense.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:45:39pm

WTB: 1 petabyte HD.
Why?
Because.
That’s why.
/

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:45:59pm

Seriously though I wonder if it’s possible to write a column for NRO without being an obnoxious douche. That’s rhetorical btw.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 5:46:25pm

re: #160 Not a Sparkly Vampire

WTB: 1 petabyte HD.
Why?
Because.
That’s why.
/

Porn and pirated anime.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:02pm

re: #143 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

She has been giving interviews; I heard her being questioned just last week.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:06pm

re: #146 ipsos

I so want to get a time machine, find the engineers who built that, and show them the 128GB microSD card in my phone that cost me less than $100.

That’s from the year before I was born, so it really give you an idea what has happened during my life.

It’s hard to believe that only 13 years after that, we were walking on the fucking MOON.

And then, only a couple years after THAT, we stopped.

Dumb fucks.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:15pm

re: #160 Not a Sparkly Vampire

WTB: 1 petabyte HD.
Why?
Because.
That’s why.
/

If you want to spend a small fortune, you could build a 1 PB RAID array.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:25pm

re: #162 The Ghost of a Flea

Porn and pirated anime.

You know, If I think about it….
Yeah, my entire anime collection may reach that if I were to rip them.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:32pm

re: #153 lawhawk

Block early and block often. Words to live by on the modern Interwebs.

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 5:47:39pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Seriously though I wonder if it’s possible to write a column for NRO without being an obnoxious douche. That’s rhetorical bye.

What are they doing now?

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 5:48:51pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Apparently I hit a nerve with something I tweeted today. Block button set on maximum.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2016 • 5:49:02pm

re: #143 lawhawk

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The same press that allowed itself to be corralled by the Trump campaign and effectively put on a leash is bitching that Hillary won’t hold a presser?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:49:10pm

re: #168 jaunte

What are they doing now?

Referring to French’s Prince column.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:49:32pm

re: #165 thedopefishlives

If you want to spend a small fortune, you could build a 1 PB RAID array.

Oh, that sounds like a fun project.
Not sure what the utility company would think of it though…

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:49:34pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Referring to French’s Prince column.

Was it written in Bel Air?

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 5:50:18pm

re: #173 thedopefishlives

Was it written in Bel Air?

His ass.

It was written in his ass.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 5:50:25pm

re: #173 thedopefishlives

Was it written in Bel Air?

Get outta heah!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 31, 2016 • 5:50:37pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Block early and block often. Words to live by on the modern Interwebs.

Twitter Block Chain.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:51:12pm

re: #172 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Oh, that sounds like a fun project.
Not sure what the utility company would think of it though…

1000x 1TB SATA hard drives? Nahh, can’t possibly draw that much power.

[Watches circuit breaker box explode and catch fire.]

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:51:20pm

re: #172 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Oh, that sounds like a fun project.
Not sure what the utility company would think of it though…

I dunno. I have an 8TB RAID drive and three 1TB portables gathering dust here in my office. That’s more than 1% of the way there.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2016 • 5:51:33pm

We’re up to petabytes now? Even I don’t have enough porn saved to warrant that much space…wait, did I say that out loud?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:52:35pm

re: #177 thedopefishlives

1000x 1TB SATA hard drives? Nahh, can’t possibly draw that much power.

[Watches circuit breaker box explode and catch fire.]

Good point.
May cause a meltdown at North Anna…
Ah well.
/

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 5:52:50pm
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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:53:09pm

re: #180 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Good point.
May cause a meltdown at North Anna…
Ah well.
/

Just gotta turn the fusion reactor in the garage up to 11. What could possibly go wrong?!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:53:34pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

We’re up to petabytes now? Even I don’t have enough porn saved to warrant that much space…wait, did I say that out loud?

I think 1 PB would be enough space to store HD recordings of each person on the planet having it off with every other person on the planet, starting 2 at a time and then working up from there.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:53:44pm

1.21 GIGAWATTS

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:53:45pm

I’m perfectly happy with my 1TB SSD.

And then the 6TB for storage in the same machine. >.> What?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:54:57pm

re: #185 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m perfectly happy with my 1TB SSD.

And then the 6TB for storage in the same machine. >.> What?

The 2 TB drive in my Big Ass Workstation is 3/4 full already.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 5:54:57pm

re: #181 jaunte

Not for nothing, but rum is one of the causes of, and solutions to, all of early American history.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:55:21pm

re: #185 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m perfectly happy with my 1TB SSD.

And then the 6TB for storage in the same machine. >.> What?

My 1TB HD died a couple of years back. Lost me all of my movies and games. I’d been meaning to get an external backup solution set up. Still probably should.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:55:24pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

The 2 TB drive in my Big Ass Workstation is 3/4 full already.

Well there’s your problem, you’re doing actual work with it.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:56:06pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

The 2 TB drive in my Big Ass Workstation is 3/4 full already.

Heh, sounds like my old CAD pc.
Did that ever run out of space fast.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 31, 2016 • 5:56:24pm

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

I use a sword sifter. It keeps my tarts from getting too watery.

But the trumpy bits slip right through and mess up your entire system of supreme executive power.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:56:38pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well there’s your problem, you’re doing actual work with it.

My company went to OneDrive for backup, storage, etc. I got tagged as A Special Case.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 5:57:00pm

re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White

My company went to OneDrive for backup, storage, etc. I got tagged as A Special Case.

More truth than they knew, eh?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:57:22pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

My 1TB HD died a couple of years back. Lost me all of my movies and games. I’d been meaning to get an external backup solution set up. Still probably should.

Here, take this floppy.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 5:57:42pm

re: #194 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Here, take this floppy.

Ooh, I know, I’ll stick it to my fridge with a magnet!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 5:58:21pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Ooh, I know, I’ll stick it to my fridge with a magnet!

Who hasn’t done that?
XD

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 5:58:48pm

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s from the year before I was born, so it really give you an idea what has happened during my life.

It’s hard to believe that only 13 years after that, we were walking on the fucking MOON.

And then, only a couple years after THAT, we stopped.

Dumb fucks.

Remember the IAS Machine could store 5KB on 16 Williams tubes:

Its throughput and memory capacity are about what it takes to place the cursor on your computer screen—but it managed to show that Teller’s “Super” wouldn’t work. They were programmers in those days!

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2016 • 5:58:55pm

re: #194 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Here, take this floppy.

Just remember not to copy it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 5:59:53pm

re: #193 klys (maker of Silmarils)

More truth than they knew, eh?

“You might not want to tag that folder for downloading to all your devices, since it’s 465GB.”

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CuriousLurker  May 31, 2016 • 6:02:15pm

Since y’all brought up evolution, I learned something a couple of weeks ago that I was completely unaware of, namely that evolution has no intrinsic directionality. I had looked up devolution, which is pretty commonly used, and ended up at Wikipedia:

Devolution (biology)

Devolution, de-evolution, or backward evolution is the notion that species can revert into more “primitive” forms over time.

In modern biology the term is redundant: evolutionary science deals with selection or adaptation that results in populations of organisms genetically different from their ancestral forms, where evolution has no intrinsic directionality. The discipline makes no general distinction between changes leading to populations of forms less complex or more complex than their ancestors, and in such terms the concept of a primitive species cannot be defined.

Current non-technical application of the concept of “devolution” is based largely on the fallacies that:

• in biology there is a preferred hierarchy of structure and function, and that
• evolution must mean “progress” to “more advanced” organisms with more complex structure and function.

Those errors in turn are related to two misconceptions: that:

• evolution is supposed to make species more “advanced”, as opposed to “primitive”; and that
• modern species that have lost some of the functions or complexity of their ancestors must accordingly be degenerate forms. (Note however that degeneracy in this context has little to do with the current technical use of the term degeneracy in biology).

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea, just like I didn’t know till I joined LGF that a theory among scientists is very different from the common understanding & use of the word. So I guess I need to keep in mind from now on that science-related words sometimes mean something totally different in a scientific context than they do in a colloquial one.

Oh, and it just so happens that I learned the evolution thing on the same day Charles launched the Trump bumper sticker generator, so my contribution was:

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:02:31pm

re: #194 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Here, take this floppy.

The US government is still using floppy disks to control nuclear weapons. That sounds awful, but this article says they have the benefit of being reliable and because the tech is obsolete hard for hackers to break into.

yahoo.com

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:03:44pm
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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:04:47pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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Just the kind of guy to draw theocons votes away from Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2016 • 6:04:50pm

Hmmm…
Libertarian maybe?

Admits he was speeding:

“I was on my residential street when I got a ticket for going nine miles over the speed limit,” he told CNN. “I thought it was unfair. I did not injure anyone, and I did not endanger anyone.”

Went to court to fight ticket, apparently couldn’t believe jury deemed his action worthy of the ticket.
Original fine $79.90, court costs $132.10, for total cost of $212

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:05:30pm

Back in my day, we stored information via quipu, and, by the mummified bones of my ancestors, we liked it.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:05:47pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Ooh, I know, I’ll stick it to my fridge with a magnet!

At Sears we had managers that would staple documents to floppy discs. This went poorly most of the time.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:06:00pm

re: #205 The Ghost of a Flea

Back in my day, we stored information via quipu, and, by the mummified bones of my ancestors, we liked it.

I have no idea what that is.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 31, 2016 • 6:06:24pm

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

I have no idea what that is.

Rope with knots.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 6:06:50pm

re: #205 The Ghost of a Flea

Back in my day, we stored information via quipu, and, by the mummified bones of my ancestors, we liked it.

There’s a pretty adorable (IMHO) picture of me at age 2, sitting on my dad’s lap and playing on the home computer. He wrote a program so that when I typed in my name, there were fireworks on the screen.

/in before the get off my lawn comments

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:07:03pm

re: #208 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Rope with knots.

Thanks, and I was just reading about those earlier today too!

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 6:07:07pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

Certainly if this is a real thing, it is an effort by the Kristol gang to take credit for Drumpfskind’s loss, thus elevating the status of Kristol et. al. post-Nov as the real power brokers in the “conservative” movement.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 6:07:16pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

Since y’all brought up evolution, I learned something a couple of weeks ago that I was completely unaware of, namely that evolution has no intrinsic directionality. I had looked up devolution, which is pretty commonly used and ended up at Wikipedia:

I had no idea, just like I didn’t know till I joined LGF that a theory among scientists is very different from the common understanding & use of the word. So I guess I need to keep in mind from now on that science-related words sometimes mean something totally different in a scientific context than they do in a colloquial one.

Oh, and it just so happens that I learned the evolution thing on the same day Charles launched the Trump bumper sticker generator, so my contribution was:

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That’s something a lot of laymen have difficulty with. There’s an expectation that things are going someplace. Often that all animals are evolving toward humanity, which I call the “Island of Dr. Moreau Mistake”.

That’s why for us biologists, the “Why are there still monkeys?” question is so nonsensical. There are still monkeys because there’s still some advantage to being a monkey in some places. Same reason sharks haven’t changed much in millions of years - there’s no reason for them to. They don’t need to be more anything than they are in order to thrive.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 6:08:32pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There’s a pretty adorable (IMHO) picture of me at age 2, sitting on my dad’s lap and playing on the home computer. He wrote a program so that when I typed in my name, there were fireworks on the screen.

/in before the get off my lawn comments

My dad was never a programmer, but he always did like to stay on the leading edge of technology. We had a 286, and one of the early Internet services. It’s how I grew to love technology, because it got to the point where only I could fix what I broke.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 6:09:01pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

Since y’all brought up evolution, I learned something a couple of weeks ago that I was completely unaware of, namely that evolution has no intrinsic directionality. I had looked up devolution, which is pretty commonly used and ended up at Wikipedia:

I had no idea, just like I didn’t know till I joined LGF that a theory among scientists is very different from the common understanding & use of the word. So I guess I need to keep in mind from now on that science-related words sometimes mean something totally different in a scientific context than they do in a colloquial one.

Oh, and it just so happens that I learned the evolution thing on the same day Charles launched the Trump bumper sticker generator, so my contribution was:

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The illusion of “progress” is probably due to the fact that, if you plot every species that’s ever lived on a complexity vs. time graph, there’s nowhere to go to the left, so average complexity does increase with time. Complexity does cost energy though, and quite often it’s advantageous to get rid of it if you don’t need it. You’re then better adapted, AKA more “evolved”.

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TedStriker  May 31, 2016 • 6:09:25pm

re: #160 Not a Sparkly Vampire

WTB: 1 petabyte HD.
Why?
Because.
That’s why.
/

re: #179 Targetpractice

We’re up to petabytes now? Even I don’t have enough porn saved to warrant that much space…wait, did I say that out loud?

re: #185 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m perfectly happy with my 1TB SSD.

And then the 6TB for storage in the same machine. >.> What?

re: #188 thedopefishlives

My 1TB HD died a couple of years back. Lost me all of my movies and games. I’d been meaning to get an external backup solution set up. Still probably should.

Right now, between my main desktop rig and my home media server setup (a Windows 10 PC running Plex Media Server and a circa-2009 Mac Mini (maxed out at 8 GB RAM and a SSD, running OpenPlex to bridge the Apple TVs in the house to the Plex server), I currently have active, in my house, over 12.5 TB of HDD/SSD storage (about 2.25 TB in the desktop and another 10.25 TB in the media server group), plus another 14 TB in HDDs for offline backups in my fire safe.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:09:34pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 31, 2016 • 6:10:28pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s something a lot of laymen have difficulty with. There’s an expectation that things are going someplace. Often that all animals are evolving toward humanity, which I call the “Island of Dr. Moreau Mistake”.

That’s why for us biologists, the “Why are there still monkeys?” question is so nonsensical. There are still monkeys because there’s still some advantage to being a monkey in some places. Same reason sharks haven’t changed much in millions of years - there’s no reason for them to. They don’t need to be more anything than they are in order to thrive.

Beyond some pressures to evolve a fin that is not good for soup.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 6:10:41pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

My dad was never a programmer, but he always did like to stay on the leading edge of technology. We had a 286, and one of the early Internet services. It’s how I grew to love technology, because it got to the point where only I could fix what I broke.

I have distinct memories of playing hangman on Prodigy at age 5.

Scrabble was a lot harder at that age, so I didn’t play that so much.

mr. klys managed to get himself into trouble at age 13 or so after he worked out how passwords were assigned on one particular BBS and posted the algorithm (along with proof that he’d done it) instead of writing to the admin. Had the cops come to visit after a call about “hacking.”

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:11:04pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s something a lot of laymen have difficulty with. There’s an expectation that things are going someplace. Often that all animals are evolving toward humanity, which I call the “Island of Dr. Moreau Mistake”.

That’s why for us biologists, the “Why are there still monkeys?” question is so nonsensical. There are still monkeys because there’s still some advantage to being a monkey in some places. Same reason sharks haven’t changed much in millions of years - there’s no reason for them to. They don’t need to be more anything than they are in order to thrive.

I think Gould called it the drunkards walk. To the extent that life has gotten more complex, that is due to the fact that bacteria started at close to the lowest level of complexity, rather than because evolution is a process of increasing complexity. Internal parasites, for example, have evolved toward greater simplicity compared to their ancestors.

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 6:11:27pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have distinct memories of playing hangman on Prodigy at age 5.

Scrabble was a lot harder at that age, so I didn’t play that so much.

mr. klys managed to get himself into trouble at age 13 or so after he worked out how passwords were assigned on one particular BBS and posted the algorithm (along with proof that he’d done it) instead of writing to the admin. Had the cops come to visit after a call about “hacking.”

When I was a freshman programmer, I accidentally nuked 3 of my college’s 4 main servers with a simple command-line utility I was debugging.

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ipsos  May 31, 2016 • 6:11:33pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

My dad was never a programmer, but he always did like to stay on the leading edge of technology. We had a 286, and one of the early Internet services. It’s how I grew to love technology, because it got to the point where only I could fix what I broke.

My dad got us a Xerox CP/M-based machine when I was a kid. The thing must have cost $5,000 in 1983 dollars. It had TWO (!) 5 1/4” floppies and a whopping 64K of RAM, plus a daisy-wheel printer.

Things have devolved from then. Today I had to waste several hours in the very spot where that CP/M machine sat…helping undo the damage dad did when he clicked on a pop-up ad and followed the instructions to call “Microsoft” so he could download “security software.” At least he didn’t go through with paying them $425 for the really special “security software.”

I think I liked 1983 better.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 6:11:38pm

re: #214 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The illusion of “progress” is probably due to the fact that, if you plot every species that’s ever lived on a complexity vs. time graph, there’s nowhere to go to the left, so average complexity does increase with time. Complexity does cost energy though, and quite often it’s advantageous to get rid of it if you don’t need it. You’re then better adapted, AKA more “evolved”.

Beat me to it.

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whitebeach  May 31, 2016 • 6:14:28pm

re: #145 lawhawk

LMAO. I remember dad spending a couple hundred bucks to upgrade a 16k TRS-80 Md 3 to 48k.

48k.

Not 48MB. Not 48GB. 48k.

Dear Whippersnapper,

My first computer was a TRS IV-P with a killer 64k. The “P” stood for “portable,” which meant that they had built a suitcase-type handle into the case. With cords and cables it weighed thirty pounds.

Don’t ridicule your elders.

Signed,

Guy Who Might Have Palled Around w/Yer Dad

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:15:18pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

My 1TB HD died a couple of years back. Lost me all of my movies and games. I’d been meaning to get an external backup solution set up. Still probably should.

I’ve got two externals plus the hard drive in the desktop. I will NOT lose all that music I have digitized. Years ago I ripped every CD I own (I have many thousands of albums on CD) and I am NOT going to lose any of that!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2016 • 6:15:33pm

re: #214 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The illusion of “progress” is probably due to the fact that, if you plot every species that’s ever lived on a complexity vs. time graph, there’s nowhere to go to the left, so average complexity does increase with time. Complexity does cost energy though, and quite often it’s advantageous to get rid of it if you don’t need it. You’re then better adapted, AKA more “evolved”.

Bacteria and other unicellular organisms are often able to use a larger array of molecules as energy sources, and make a lot more different molecules out of them than we can. We have, in essence, traded those abilities for what we have, leaving us dependent of food sources that already have those molecules. Our brains run pretty much exclusively on glucose, but we don’t generally have to produce it ourselves since it’s in much of our food. If we HAVE TO, like, say when we’re starving or fasting, we CAN do it, but not very well.

But apparently for our ancestors it was not something that was needed often enough to make it advantageous to maintain it.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:16:04pm
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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 6:18:46pm

re: #221 ipsos

My dad got us a Xerox CP/M-based machine when I was a kid. The thing must have cost $5,000 in 1983 dollars. It had TWO (!) 5 1/4” floppies and a whopping 64K of RAM, plus a daisy-wheel printer.

Things have devolved from then. Today I had to waste several hours in the very spot where that CP/M machine sat…helping undo the damage dad did when he clicked on a pop-up ad and followed the instructions to call “Microsoft” so he could download “security software.” At least he didn’t go through with paying them $425 for the really special “security software.”

I think I liked 1983 better.

Our first home computer was a Kaypro CP/M, and the daisy wheel. Used it for too many years, until I convinced hubby to go to a Mac. I think I’ve said before I started on an IBM 1130 that was 8K, filled a room, and used data switches and punch cards. I like my new iMac, TYVM!

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kirkspencer  May 31, 2016 • 6:19:52pm

re: #223 whitebeach

Dear Whippersnapper,

My first computer was a TRS IV-P with a killer 64k. The “P” stood for “portable,” which meant that they had built a suitcase-type handle into the case. With cords and cables it weighed thirty pounds.

Don’t ridicule your elders.

Signed,

Guy Who Might Have Palled Around w/Yer Dad

Mine was a Kaypro II. I could - did - occasionally crack walnuts with the keyboard.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:20:18pm

Just did a count. I have about 10 TB of storage in my house when I add up all the hard drives. I’m a little over a third of my capacity. Plenty of space!

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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 6:21:44pm

re: #229 teleskiguy

Just did a count. I have about 10 TB of storage in my house when I add up all the hard drives. I’m a little over a third of my capacity. Plenty of space!

That’s too much work. I still have room, so I’m not counting!

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 6:22:05pm

re: #229 teleskiguy

Just did a count. I have about 10 TB of storage in my house when I add up all the hard drives. I’m a little over a third of my capacity. Plenty of space!

I was told there would be no math.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 6:22:21pm

The churn on social media over this Drumpfskind inspired chaos in wingnuttia is a bit of a sport to watch, but part of me is sad.

There are so many Americans who clearly are struggling with identity, and they are gloming onto identity politics as a pacifier.

Modernity has moved too quickly for these people. Societal changes have been too great for some of them.

Others are just dim-witted.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:23:16pm

Here’s a fun Twitter search I did this morning.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 6:23:42pm

For the most part, I ascribe this angst to the loss of their God, but they just haven’t become self-aware of this yet.

Drumpfskind is proof that we’re in the middle of a national existential crisis.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 6:24:24pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

My dad was never a programmer, but he always did like to stay on the leading edge of technology. We had a 286, and one of the early Internet services. It’s how I grew to love technology, because it got to the point where only I could fix what I broke.

Compuserve by any chance?

Know all about them…Columbus Ohio company…one of if not the first internet service.

Lots of folks do not know Columbus was and still is pretty strong in computer sciences. We have a lot of Federal Government business going on here. Some due to Ohio State. Some due to Battelle Institute. Some due to John Kasich when he was working with the fed budget and GAO.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:24:52pm

re: #215 TedStriker

Right now, between my main desktop rig and my home media server setup (a Windows 10 PC running Plex Media Server and a circa-2009 Mac Mini (maxed out at 8 GB RAM and a SSD, running OpenPlex to bridge the Apple TVs in the house to the Plex server), I currently have active, in my house, over 12.5 TB of HDD/SSD storage (about 2.25 TB in the desktop and another 10.25 TB in the media server group), plus another 14 TB in HDDs for offline backups in my fire safe.

My Plex has a 60TB DrivePool (30TB usable - 2 copies of every file) for storage.

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No Depression  May 31, 2016 • 6:25:04pm

re: #233 teleskiguy

Here’s a fun Twitter search I did this morning.

Wow such presidential.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:25:26pm

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

I have no idea what that is.

It was the data-recording system use by Andean cultures. We know it involved knotted cords, but not what was being stored that way, or what the encoding was. Apparently lots of information, warehoused in that format.

Like the burning of the Mesoamerican codices, quipu and quipu readers were actively disposed of by the Spaniards, ensuring bitter tears from archaeologists.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2016 • 6:25:43pm

My fifth grade teacher (circa 1959) had a giant slide rule at the front of the class. This was used for teaching us to use our smaller versions.
Naturally, there is a web page devoted to these: Giant Slide Rules
They were made by the Pickett Company and came in both 4 foot and 7 foot versions. I think ours was a 7 footer.

Here is a teacher-looking model with the 4 foot version. Schools reportedly paid just $25 for the 4 footer. I remember specifically that my little slide rule cost 49 cents.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:26:04pm
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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 6:26:13pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

Compuserve by any chance?

Know all about them…Columbus Ohio company…one of if not the first internet service.

Lots of folks do not know Columbus was and still is pretty strong in computer sciences. We have a lot of Federal Government business going on here. Some due to Ohio State. Some due to Battelle Institute. Some due to John Kasich when he was working with the fed budget and GAO.

Prodigy, actually. The Midwest in general is pretty heavy in the technology department; there are a lot of technology leaders across the region, both in academia and in private business.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:26:14pm

re: #234 freetoken

For the most part, I ascribe this angst to the loss of their God, but they just haven’t become self-aware of this yet.

Drumpfskind is proof that we’re in the middle of a national existential crisis.

I think it’s the loss of blue-collar manufacturing jobs. They don’t know their god is imaginary.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:28:01pm

I tried reading that Prince “obit.”

Sweet Shiva, some days I wonder why I crawled back out of the Neva River.

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A Cranky One  May 31, 2016 • 6:28:05pm

re: #200 CuriousLurker

As soon as someone says “evolutionary ladder” I know they don’t have a clue.

But looking around, I find agreement with this:

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lawhawk  May 31, 2016 • 6:29:49pm

re: #223 whitebeach

I remember working on those, and the Mod 1 and 2s, especially the version with the 8 inch floppy disks. Those were the days. I remember storing data on cassette tapes.

Eat nothing but static…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 6:30:46pm

re: #245 lawhawk

I remember working on those, and the Mod 1 and 2s, especially the version with the 8 inch floppy disks. Those were the days. I remember storing data on cassette tapes.

Eat nothing but static…

We still used cassette tapes for backing up NMR data in my grad school lab.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 31, 2016 • 6:31:35pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

I’d use King Arthur Flour more, but I get tired of picking out the tiny swords.

Weird. I get nothing but grails in mine.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:32:30pm

re: #241 thedopefishlives

Prodigy, actually..

Prodigy was my first internet too! We had to dial a phone number that orginated 115 miles away. We got charged for the long-distance phone call as well as the internet service. Ah, those were the days! Waiting in anticipation for that horrible screeching noise from the phone receiver.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 6:32:50pm

re: #247 GlutenFreeJesus

Weird. I get nothing but grails in mine.

But did you…choose wisely?

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:33:03pm

NOT ENOUGH LOLS

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thedopefishlives  May 31, 2016 • 6:33:52pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

Prodigy was my first internet too! We had to dial a phone number that orginated 115 miles away. We got charged for the long-distance phone call as well as the internet service. Ah, those were the days! Waiting in anticipation for that horrible screeching noise from the phone receiver.

I don’t remember anything about the actual dialing on the Prodigy service. I do remember jumping from Prodigy to a 38k modem with dial-up access to the Web. That’s when I taught myself the AT modem command set, or at least one dialect of it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:33:54pm

re: #247 GlutenFreeJesus

Weird. I get nothing but grails in mine.

Dude, you are going to have a horrible Grail Knight infestation this summer.

Glue traps baited locks and a fair maiden’s hair and mysterious riddles by the Green Knight. Only thing that works.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2016 • 6:34:32pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

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The talk of an “independent” candidate is dedicated to only one end: Convincing millions of Americans that conservatives of this nation have not collectively gone out of their gourds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 6:35:02pm
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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 6:35:58pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

Trump’s real sin in their eyes is being too open in his craziness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 6:36:52pm

BTW, David French’s wife, Nancy, is the ghostwriter for most, if not all, of Sarah Palin’s books.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 31, 2016 • 6:36:57pm

re: #249 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But did you…choose wisely?

What fun would that be!

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:37:21pm
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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:37:48pm
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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:38:30pm

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2016 • 6:39:25pm

The talk of an “independent” candidate will continue until the convention, at which time those who don’t make peace with a Trump nomination will start boosting for Johnson as an alternative.

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mr.fusion  May 31, 2016 • 6:39:26pm

So if you were wondering about Bill Kristol’s third party choice of David French, this is about all you need to know about the guy:

patheos.com

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:40:49pm

re: #255 jaunte

Trump’s real sin in their eyes is being too open in his craziness.

Of course. Conservatives used to know to keep the racism to dog whistles when speaking to a diverse audience, and only let it all hang out at small meetings of like-minded idiots. Now they scream it from the rooftops, and we have alt-right freaks showing us that young Conservatives can be even worse than their parents. We live in crazy times.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2016 • 6:42:15pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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I think “feeling my feminine side” in SMOTI-speak means “scratching by butthole.”

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:42:16pm

Facebook Post

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Romantic Heretic  May 31, 2016 • 6:42:27pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

We’re up to petabytes now? Even I don’t have enough porn saved to warrant that much space…wait, did I say that out loud?

My five year old Mac’s internal hard drive currently has over 600GB free.

What can I say? I just don’t download much stuff.

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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 6:44:26pm

re: #266 Romantic Heretic

My five year old Mac’s internal hard drive currently has over 600GB free.

What can I say? I just don’t download much stuff.

I’m down to 284GB. Need to do some offloading….

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2016 • 6:44:27pm

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 6:45:04pm

The French thing only furthers my and I imagine many others belief that the only thing they object to with Trump is he doesn’t speak the religious right’s language. Yet another example of why the right just does not get why their ideology is increasingly unappealing to more Americans.

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 6:45:50pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

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Best of luck to you.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 6:46:55pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2016 • 6:47:35pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

We’ll keep the lights on for you!

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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 6:47:49pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

Best Wishes!!

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2016 • 6:47:51pm

re: #263 No Country For Old Haters

Of course. Conservatives used to know to keep the racism to dog whistles when speaking to a diverse audience, and only let it all hang out at small meetings of like-minded idiots. Now they scream it from the rooftops, and we have alt-right freaks showing us that young Conservatives can be even worse than their parents. We live in crazy times.

Young conservatives are why I have no hope for the ideology. As you say, they can be even worse tha their folks.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 6:47:59pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

Godspeed, my friend. Look forward to seeing you again.

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2016 • 6:48:38pm

re: #206 No Country For Old Haters

At Sears we had managers that would staple documents to floppy discs. This went poorly most of the time.

Back in the day I asked someone for a copy of the file they were working on (which would have been copied onto a floppy). But they informed me that their computer wasn’t hooked to the copier. Which kinda made me feel a little better that they knew at least that little bit of information, but also made me think that they must have tried at one point.

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A Cranky One  May 31, 2016 • 6:49:48pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 6:49:50pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

We’ll send some good thoughts your way.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 6:50:33pm

All one has to do is read the comments at a site like HotAir to see the vileness and hatred now bubbling over the sides of the pot.

Drumpfskindanhänger vs. religious fundamentalist - around and around they go, trying to prove which is the most true hater.

Sad.

Anyway, on Facebook I think I have a few friends who may be Drumpfskindanhängers but they remain quiet. I have many religious relatives and they don’t seem so keen to Drumpfskind, but they certainly despise Hillary.

I just wish we had national leaders who would speak clearly to this mess. Bernie has an opportunity here, if he is willing to hang up his Quixotic quest and do some real good for the voters and country, if he starts to take head on the ugliness that exists in wingnuttia.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:50:59pm

re: #276 Eventual Carrion

Back in the day I asked someone for a copy of the file they were working on (which would have been copied onto a floppy). But they informed me that their computer wasn’t hooked to the copier. Which kinda made me feel a little better that they knew at least that little bit of information, but also made me think that they must have tried at one point.

I’m a little surprised they didn’t walk the disc to the copier to attempt to make the copy. It has happened.

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 6:51:04pm

Jay C - why the ding on my 270?

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:51:32pm

re: #260 teleskiguy

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 31, 2016 • 6:51:40pm

re: #263 No Country For Old Haters

Of course. Conservatives used to know to keep the racism to dog whistles when speaking to a diverse audience, and only let it all hang out at small meetings of like-minded idiots. Now they scream it from the rooftops, and we have alt-right freaks showing us that young Conservatives can be even worse than their parents. We live in crazy times.

Nightmares Old Fashioned Conservatives Have These Days


We know the nightmare scenario when no real center-right candidate runs: The country gets stuck with either Hillary Clinton or Trump; depressed turnout hands the Democrats both the House and Senate majorities; conservatism and the GOP are permanently besmirched and identified with ugly, xenophobic haters. The country could very well lurch left for the foreseeable future with no viable conservative party as a counterweight to the increasingly radical Democratic Party. (Clinton is the most conservative Democrat we are likely to see nominated in the next decade or so.)

AAAAGGGHH!!

jennifer rubin

chicagotribune.com

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:53:07pm

re: #281 makeitstop

Jay C - why the ding on my 270?

Phone or tablet most likely. That or you’re a coming across as a dick for wishing someone luck, which seems less likely.

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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 6:53:24pm

re: #283 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Awwww…. so sad!

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:54:34pm

re: #255 jaunte

Trump’s real sin in their eyes is being too open in his craziness.

The people that don’t like Trump enjoy maintaining a minimum level of decorum, because they prefer their unjustified arrogance to be patrician, pseudo-intellectual, and high-handed. They mistake maintenance of dignity for actual moral conviction…and their racism, sexism, and all-purpose class-based malarkey reflects that pretense that their “serious” persona belies “serious” ideas. The kind of people that think David Brooks is deeply clever, as opposed to be a panderer that livens up spittle-licking with the occasional Toynbee reference or Racine quote. Or that NRO is erudite. Snobs that enjoy the shallow affectation of thought, not actual fucking digging through challenging stuff.

Trump’s success breaks the illusion of an “intellectual” party core that is fully in control of the constituent varieties of rabble that are the base. Each cycle of fluffing up paranoia and playing the the lower populist instincts is followed by two years of “well, that was necessary, but we can pretend it meant nothing” explaining.

Hence the massive shit-losing first when Trump got ahead—hence Against Trump—and then the subsequent round of “oh those nasty hick proles and their free stuff” articles when he clinched it.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2016 • 6:54:35pm
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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 6:54:44pm

re: #284 No Country For Old Haters

Phone or tablet most likely. That or you’re a coming across as a dick for wishing someone luck, which seems less likely.

I worded it as nicely as I could! :)

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 6:55:50pm

re: #286 The Ghost of a Flea

The “Athwart-Cons”

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BeenHereAwhile  May 31, 2016 • 6:56:43pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Welp, we just got some great news. My girlfriend has been getting a 3-month supply of her insulin pens for 80-some dollars. Now, even though nothing has changed—not our income, nothing—we’re suddenly in the doughnut hole and it’s going up to $840. This is not something we can afford.

And even more encouraging, IIUC, you pay your way out of the donut hole at your old subsidized rate of $80 per $840 cost to you.

You pay $840, you get $80 credit towards fulfilling the donut hole requirement.

Sucks.

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Jay C  May 31, 2016 • 6:56:47pm

re: #281 makeitstop

Jay C - why the ding on my 270?

Huh? Musta been a slip of the fingers - #284 is probably right (a bad swipe on the iPad) - Fixt now, sorry.

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 6:57:57pm

re: #291 Jay C

Huh? Musta been a slip of the fingers - #284 is probably right (a bad swipe on the iPad) - Fixt now, sorry.

Thanks. I wasn’t sure what happened. No worries.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 6:58:03pm

re: #262 mr.fusion

So if you were wondering about Bill Kristol’s third party choice of David French, this is about all you need to know about the guy:

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Mmm.

Let’s pour Mr. French some delicious, refreshing Shut The Fuck Up. Poured over ice in a tall glass.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 6:58:20pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2016 • 6:58:51pm

Thanks for the well wishes everyone.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 6:58:53pm

re: #283 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Nightmares Old Fashioned Conservatives Have These Days


We know the nightmare scenario when no real center-right candidate runs: The country gets stuck with either Hillary Clinton or Trump; depressed turnout hands the Democrats both the House and Senate majorities; conservatism and the GOP are permanently besmirched and identified with ugly, xenophobic haters. The country could very well lurch left for the foreseeable future with no viable conservative party as a counterweight to the increasingly radical Democratic Party. (Clinton is the most conservative Democrat we are likely to see nominated in the next decade or so.)

AAAAGGGHH!!

jennifer rubin

chicagotribune.com

She’s actually probably right about the bolded part, though I hope we become a civilized country and it’s not just for a decade or two, and the rest is likely - Conservatism has been ugly for years.

This is the first time I’ve seen JR make a little bit of sense, but she hasn’t realized that Clinton is the center-right, business-friendly candidate, who offers the best chance of stability.

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2016 • 7:00:07pm

re: #286 The Ghost of a Flea

Only a tiny fraction of the anti-Trumpers on the right will actually follow through with this in November.

Of this set of people, none realize that Trump and Trumpism are essential parts of what US conservatism has become. Every bit of their argumentation (which is very entertaining to read at RedState) is 100% correct as to Trump’s innumerable deficiencies, and completely blind to the fact that Trump’s howling mobs of haters is exactly what the US right has cultivated for decades in the fever swamps of Fox News and hate radio.

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2016 • 7:01:41pm

re: #296 No Country For Old Haters

Exactly. The Republicans in the US are completely useless. What we need is a new second party to the left of the Democrats on economic issues.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 7:02:07pm

For me, Clinton is a liberal where it matters most: on issues like abortion, equality, treating all humans as humans, accepting science, and in general not being a bigot or opposed to the concept of at least some safety net.

I realize this is a relatively low bar to clear, but the reality is that we have one party that consistently fails at it so.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  May 31, 2016 • 7:04:38pm

What the fresh hell is this?

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Romantic Heretic  May 31, 2016 • 7:06:16pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

Good luck tomorrow.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2016 • 7:06:21pm

Lawrence is talking about the characteristics of pathological liars and giving some video evidence.

Guess who?

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 7:07:20pm

re: #298 EPR-radar

Exactly. The Republicans in the US are completely useless. What we need is a new second party to the left of the Democrats on economic issues.

That isn’t going to happen unless we incorporate proportional representation into congressional elections so that third parties can get people elected to Congress.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 31, 2016 • 7:07:21pm

re: #299 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For me, Clinton is a liberal where it matters most: on issues like abortion, equality, treating all humans as humans, accepting science, and in general not being a bigot or opposed to the concept of at least some safety net.

I realize this is a relatively low bar to clear, but the reality is that we have one party that consistently fails at it so.

That’s just being a reasonable person. None of that would be political if Conservatives weren’t anti-reason. Instead we’d be talking about things like transitioning to a more socialist system as automation replaces labor. The Conservatives cause us to fight battles that should have been settled in the 60s.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 31, 2016 • 7:08:54pm

Okay, I broke down and got a Green Egg. Super eggcited to get to cooking.

Green Egg and Smoked Ham
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 7:08:55pm

re: #297 EPR-radar

Only a tiny fraction of the anti-Trumpers on the right will actually follow through with this in November.

Of this set of people, none realize that Trump and Trumpism are essential parts of what US conservatism has become. Every bit of their argumentation (which is very entertaining to read at RedState) is 100% correct as to Trump’s innumerable deficiencies, and completely blind to the fact that Trump’s howling mobs of haters is exactly what the US right has cultivated for decades in the fever swamps of Fox News and hate radio.

Oh yes.

What we’re watching happen with each new round of commentary is a kind of self-propagandizing. The inner circle of “serious” cons will keep telling themselves how bad Hillary Clinton is, say her name five times while looking into the bathroom mirror with no lights on, and emerge resolved that the dildo monster they assembled can be contained and controlled, while Candyman Clinton is The Worst.

Except for David Brooks. Who will continue to perform his own version of Tales of Hoffman, in which David Brooks travels from millionaire playground to millionaire playground, perpetually seeking and failing to find the Perfect True Conservative Prince (while pretending he didn’t spend the Bush Administration sweatily copulating with the notion that W was The One).

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 31, 2016 • 7:09:18pm

re: #299 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For me, Clinton is a liberal where it matters most: on issues like abortion, equality, treating all humans as humans, accepting science, and in general not being a bigot or opposed to the concept of at least some safety net.

I realize this is a relatively low bar to clear, but the reality is that we have one party that consistently fails at it so.

im fully onboard with voting for hillary and actually like her personally even though it’s fashionable to distain her on both sides of the aisle, but i still cant help think that she is what a republican would - should! - be if the party of eisenhower, nelson rockefeller, and g h w bush had survived into this century

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 7:09:18pm

re: #304 No Country For Old Haters

That’s just being a reasonable person. None of that would be political if Conservatives weren’t anti-reason. Instead we’d be talking about things like transitioning to a more socialist system as automation replaces labor. The Conservatives cause us to fight battles that should have been settled in the 60s.

Yeah, but that’s the political system we’re currently stuck with.

Rah rah go team! /sigh

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 7:09:43pm

Facebook Post

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 31, 2016 • 7:14:47pm

logically trump shouldnt be able to win - bad organization, splintered party, lousy image - but i hear too many people making the case like this:

“i voted twice for obama. trump is unstable and unqualified. but i dont trust hillary. anyway, the country cant go on this way, and hillary represents the establishment, so i’ll have to vote for trump”

i have no high hopes of the reasoning process being any more profound than that

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jaunte  May 31, 2016 • 7:15:12pm

re: #309 teleskiguy

NUKES FOR EVERYBODY!!!

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Kragar  May 31, 2016 • 7:16:11pm

The Alt-Right is taking David French’s multiracial family about as well as one would expect

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2016 • 7:16:22pm

re: #305 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Okay, I broke down and got a Green Egg. Super eggcited to get to cooking.

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They look so cool. Show your results ASAP.

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Kragar  May 31, 2016 • 7:16:54pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 7:17:32pm

re: #307 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

im fully onboard with voting for hillary and actually like her personally even though it’s fashionable to distain her on both sides of the aisle, but i still cant help think that she is what a republican would - should! - be if the party of eisenhower, nelson rockefeller, and g h w bush had survived into this century

I like her too.

What I think makes a difference is that for people my age and younger, we’ve never known a Republican party that wasn’t focused on being holier-than-thou and full of “family values” without actually following through. Reagan is acknowledged as the start of that, right? That was 1980. Five years before I was born. Some of my earliest memories of politics include the Republican shutdown in the 90s and then the Bill Clinton impeachment fiasco.

Republican and “right” in my lexicon have come to represent the majority of what is wrong in our political system - the bigotry, the xenophobia, the willingness to trample on the minority and to say fuck you to large groups of people because fuck you. They’ve abandoned fiscal issues for social ones and claimed the “right” label (versus left) to stand for that, and the media has let that go unchallenged. So now when those terms are used, that’s what comes to mind for younger voters. (Or, at least, for me.) And I am going to push back because I think on social issues she is easily as liberal as Bernie, if not more so. (She certainly cares a hell of a lot more about things like structural racism and reproductive access, from what I have seen.) It’s primarily economic issues where she’s more to the center. (And, perhaps unsurprisingly, because of all the bullshit that the left has had to deal with in fighting for the social issues - which are SO IMPORTANT - there is less discussion of what the nuances are on the economic ones.)

So I guess what I am saying is that I don’t disagree but that’s unfortunately not what the words tend to mean as used by the media these days, particularly for younger voters, and that disconnect may not be helping in this discussion.

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De Kolta Chair  May 31, 2016 • 7:19:13pm

The irony of Trump always lambasting Romney is Mitt’s family is much more financially successful as hoteliers than he’ll ever be.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 31, 2016 • 7:20:09pm

re: #312 Kragar

The Alt-Right is taking David French’s multiracial family about as well as one would expect

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Guy who wrote that is probably deeply insecure about his dad siring him on a bathtub full of especially ignorant cockroaches.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 31, 2016 • 7:20:57pm

re: #312 Kragar

The Alt-Right is taking David French’s multiracial family about as well as one would expect

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I watched Look who’s back today, a German comedy about what if Hitler came back today. It helps explain Trump.

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retired cynic  May 31, 2016 • 7:21:28pm

#312, #314: UGH!

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2016 • 7:22:48pm

re: #305 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Okay, I broke down and got a Green Egg. Super eggcited to get to cooking.

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I hope you have a Sam-I-Am cooking apron.

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2016 • 7:24:00pm

Maya and Marty on NBC…. A riot!!!

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Great White Snark  May 31, 2016 • 7:24:13pm

re: #305 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Nice buy! Someday when I have not misspent on lenses…

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 7:24:50pm

The wife and I just stepped outside to take a look at Mars.

Like a red jewel in the sky. Run out and look if you can!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2016 • 7:25:12pm

re: #323 makeitstop

The wife and I just stepped outside to take a look at Mars.

Like a red jewel in the sky. Run out and look if you can!

I looked outside.

It is still light out.

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freetoken  May 31, 2016 • 7:25:16pm

re: #315 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I least I can remember Ford and Rockefeller, who would definitely be out of place in today’s GOP.

I remember when Eisenhower died and his public ceremony took place (watched on b&w TV.)

Those kind of Republicans are long gone now.

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whitebeach  May 31, 2016 • 7:26:00pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

FWIW, I and I’m sure many here and many who know you offline are hoping and pulling for a great outcome.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 31, 2016 • 7:26:08pm

sooner or later that construction that lives on top of you know who’s head must come undone on national tee vee and reveal to us the question that secretly burns in the hearts of all americans

i truly believe only then will the spell be broken and sanity return to the national discourse

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makeitstop  May 31, 2016 • 7:26:30pm

re: #324 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I looked outside.

It is still light out.

Give it a couple of hours, then.

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2016 • 7:29:29pm

re: #321 Dave In Austin

Maya and Marty on NBC…. A riot!!!

Totally adlib Martin Short…. My sides hurt…..

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majii  May 31, 2016 • 7:30:14pm

re: #314 Kragar

Oh, I’d say he does deserve it in a way because French knows how toxic the GOP brand is but has done nothing to speak against it. When anyone in any political party sees the party headed for a major train-wreck and doesn’t intervene out of cowardice, s/he gets what s/he deserves. To remain silent while observing wrongdoing means consenting to and legitimizing it. This is why I find the so-called horror with with Kristol, McCain, Brooks, Romney, and others are viewing the GOP/TP today so mystifying. All of them contributed to the far-right lurch the party took and did nothing because they were too afraid of the far right and the attacks they would launch on them. This is cowardice writ large. For example, when many on the right embraced birtherism, not one alleged leader of the party would speak against it for fear of being primaried. Many of the seeds they have sown over the last seven years are coming back to bite them in their *sses, and it’s why they’ll get no sympathy from me. They wanted to win in 2014, and they did, but it did not result in them demonstrating that they could govern wisely and effectively, but good gosh, they sure could vote to block every effort the president and democrats took which would have sped up the recovery and helped the citizens who needed it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 31, 2016 • 7:30:41pm

re: #309 teleskiguy

Kim Jong Un still looks like Vir Cotto with his hair:

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calochortus  May 31, 2016 • 7:32:00pm

Greetings from Burns, OR-yes, Mr. C. and I are on the road (metaphorically speaking-actually we’re stopped for the night at a motel.) We drove up from Winnemucca this morning so we could spend some time at Steen’s Mt. and the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. Great scenery, lots and lots of wildflowers at Steen’s Mt., wildlife ranging from pronghorns to a badger, and of course, birds at the Refuge. Unfortunately we couldn’t stop in at the Refuge Visitor Center because, you know, it’s still closed. Sigh.
Tomorrow it’s the John Day Fossil Beds and on to Walla Walla and some hikes in the Blue Mts.
I do enjoy the high desert. :-)

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2016 • 7:40:47pm

re: #332 calochortus

Western edge of the Great Basin.

I went to Great Basin National Park about a month ago. The range-and-valley landforms were striking. They looked like battleships.

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SteelPH  May 31, 2016 • 7:45:12pm

re: #314 Kragar

Pathological Altruist

Since when were kindness and decency a bad thing?

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calochortus  May 31, 2016 • 7:46:47pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

Western edge of the Great Basin.

I went to Great Basin National Park about a month ago. The range-and-valley landforms were striking. They looked like battleships.

Often referred to as “caterpillars crawling out of Mexico.” The Basin and Range area has a special place in my heart-when I started college I was a sociology major, but I took an intro geology class and was hooked. I still remember the feeling on a field trip where we went up to Carson Pass and looked down into Nevada-although I had seen the view before, this time I actually understood the forces behind and it was a revelatory experience.
I love Great Basin. We’ve been there 3 times over the years-and every time we stay a bit longer. I expect we’ll be back in the next couple years.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 31, 2016 • 7:48:14pm

re: #334 SteelPH

Since when were kindness and decency a bad thing?

Was it Glenn Beck who went off on empathy leading to Nazism, when President Obama dared to use the word?

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scottslemmons  May 31, 2016 • 7:52:39pm

re: #336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Was it Glenn Beck who went off on empathy leading to Nazism, when President Obama dared to use the word?

The Republican Party is now almost entirely devoted to promoting sociopathy nationwide. Their leaders, their pundits, and their billionaires are all psychos, and they just encourage the rest of their minions to get more and more cruel.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2016 • 8:01:09pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

I’d use King Arthur Flour more, but I get tired of picking out the tiny swords.

We used to use King Biscuit Flower, but only for an hour.

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De Kolta Chair  May 31, 2016 • 8:10:39pm

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