Report: Trump Campaign CEO Stephen Bannon Didn't Want His Daughter Going to School With Jews

Report: Trump Campaign CEO Stephen Bannon Didn’t Want His Daughter Going to School With Jews

The alt-right ideology goes all the way to the top

PoliticsAugust 2016 • Views: 64,264

The New York Daily News has some very revealing information tonight about Donald Trump’s new campaign CEO, Breitbart publisher Stephen Bannon, and as someone who’s been sounding the alarm about the disgusting racism and antisemitism at Breitbart “News” for years, let me just say: I am not even remotely surprised.

Trump campaign CEO Bannon complained of Jews at daughters’ school.

Donald Trump’s campaign CEO Stephen Bannon was branded an anti-Semite by the same ex-wife who claimed he choked her, court documents reveal.
Mary Louise Piccard said in a 2007 court declaration that Bannon didn’t want their twin daughters attending the Archer School for Girls in Los Angeles because many Jewish students were enrolled at the elite institution.

“The biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend,” Piccard said in her statement signed on June 27, 2007.

“He said that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews,” Piccard wrote.

“I told him that there are children who are Jewish at (a competing school), and he asked me what the percentage was. I told him that I didn’t know because it wasn’t an issue for me as I am not raising the girls to be either anti-Semitic or prejudiced against anyone,” she wrote.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 7:24:16pm

I’m shocked, shocked that there’s shocking going on here!

Interesting Times Aug 26, 2016 • 7:25:44pm

Trump’s entire campaign is an experiment to show us how terrifying The Simpsons would be if it were real life. pic.twitter.com/kz1U2cGEXV

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) August 27, 2016

TedStriker Aug 26, 2016 • 7:26:26pm

“I told him that there are children who are Jewish at (a competing school), and he asked me what the percentage was. I told him that I didn’t know because it wasn’t an issue for me as I am not raising the girls to be either anti-Semitic or prejudiced against anyone,” she wrote.

While I feel sorry for their daughters, who were and are caught in the middle of something they have no control over, I’m having a hell of a time feeling one lick of pity for the ex-wife, because, long before the point in their marriage when he choked her and she decided to get a divorce, you know that she had to know how bigoted, racist, and, otherwise, how big of a fucking human dumpster fire Bannon is.

There’s just no fucking way she didn’t.

jaunte Aug 26, 2016 • 7:27:01pm

Time to start getting Republican leaders on the record about whether they support this campaign.

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 7:27:30pm

re: #2 Interesting Times

Best Fred Armisen imitation ever!

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 7:27:48pm

When Bannon took the job with the Trump campaign, he had to know this was going to come out https://t.co/5NAX17HCyH pic.twitter.com/qqxCVOUaz1

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 27, 2016

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 7:29:33pm

I am glad the mask is coming off though. I’m sick and tired of the left being called Antisemitic when Antisemitism has been a large part of the right’s game for years.

Kragar Aug 26, 2016 • 7:29:39pm

“We’re tired of hearing it.”

Guess what? We’re tired of fucking saying it! Stop being fucking awful people.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 27, 2016

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 7:30:45pm

re: #8 Kragar

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No kidding. You don’t want us to call you racists? Maybe don’t be bigoted assholes like Bannon and his bigoted website. Not every conservative is a bigot but a lot of bigots sure as hell are conservatives.

thedopefishlives Aug 26, 2016 • 7:31:02pm

re: #8 Kragar

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“Stop being fucking awful, people.” Truer words were never spoken. Seriously.

Skip Intro Aug 26, 2016 • 7:31:18pm

Wasn’t Bannon Ivanka’s husband’s idea?

The Ghost of a Flea Aug 26, 2016 • 7:32:58pm

You dig to the bottom of Breitbart, the “alt-right,” and conspiracy-minded wingnuts, and you find the same core set of references to JBS materials, Cultural Marxism, and the concept of an corrupting “international” liberalism.

I’m going to keep repeating it: it’s not some happenstance that this kind of stuff is getting more popular. People attempted to use conspiracy logic and conspiracy tropes with a few cosmetic changes to mask the racist and anti-semitic origins of those narratives…while simultaneously denouncing anyone who pointed out the similarity as politically correct and oversensitive. Now the bits that were supposed to be sotto voce are getting loud again.

You wanted ants, motherfuckers? Well, now you have ants.

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 7:33:35pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

You dig to the bottom of Breitbart, the “alt-right,” and conspiracy-minded wingnuts, and you find the same core set of references to JBS materials, Cultural Marxism, and the concept of an corrupting “international” liberalism.

I’m going to keep repeating it: it’s not some happenstance that this kind of stuff is getting more popular. People attempted to use conspiracy logic and conspiracy tropes with a few cosmetic changes to mask the racist and anti-semitic origins of those narratives…while simultaneously denouncing anyone who pointed out the similarity as politically correct and oversensitive. Now the bits that were supposed to be sotto voce are getting loud again.

You wanted ants, motherfuckers? Well, now you have ants.

It’s a lot of recycled bullshit.

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 7:34:12pm

We can only hope there are no ISIS terrorists on his staff. @Kragar_LGF

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 27, 2016

thedopefishlives Aug 26, 2016 • 7:35:59pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Come on, Charles, Trump only hires white people. White people can’t be terrorists.//////

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 7:36:42pm

I predict that Trump’s next campaign chief will be an actual werewolf with a swastika neck tattoo. https://t.co/S7LTaTF4Ak

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 7:37:29pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

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The werewolf is very popular in alt-right circles. //

Kragar Aug 26, 2016 • 7:39:00pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Trump supporters prefer terrorizing black churches and women’s health clinics @Green_Footballs

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 27, 2016

Decatur Deb Aug 26, 2016 • 7:40:03pm

The 2018 House campaign is shaping up.

GOP plots early wake-up call for Clinton
politico.com

(Good news: the GOP seems to assume this one is over.)

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 7:42:56pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

The 2018 House campaign is shaping up.

GOP plots early wake-up call for Clinton
politico.com

(Good news: the GOP seems to assume this one is over.)

Hopefully we don’t have a repeat of 2010.

Varek Raith Aug 26, 2016 • 7:46:22pm

Captain Zapp Brannigan: You can’t be too careful with these codes. Rumor has it a double agent is aboard this very ship.

Captain Zapp Brannigan: I’m watching you. You, ensign. What’s your name?

Hugh Man: Hugh Man, sir.

Captain Zapp Brannigan: Hugh Man? Now that’s a name you can trust. Run down to the central battle computer and enter these codes. Chop, chop!

Kif Kroker: Um, sir, there’s something about that ensign that’s…

Captain Zapp Brannigan: You’re damn right there is. That strapping young lad is gunning for your job, and he just might get it.

Interesting Times Aug 26, 2016 • 7:46:40pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

The 2018 House campaign is shaping up.

GOP plots early wake-up call for Clinton
politico.com

(Good news: the GOP seems to assume this one is over.)

This is why it’s so crucial to run up the score now. I’ve been reading that if HRC has an 8-point lead or more, it might be enough to overcome the gerrymander and flip the House.

bratwurst Aug 26, 2016 • 7:49:23pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

This is why it’s so crucial to run up the score now. I’ve been reading that if HRC has an 8-point lead or more, it might be enough to overcome the gerrymander and flip the House.

I am very much of the opinion that nothing dramatic is possible in the House until redistricting (hopefully!) occurs after 2020.

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 7:53:04pm

Extreme vetting in action! https://t.co/vP535srIgp @ABCWorldNews

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 27, 2016

Skip Intro Aug 26, 2016 • 7:54:30pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Trump doesn’t appear to know anything.

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 7:55:18pm

Imagine, if you will, how loudly I will laugh if Trump now ends up firing Bannon. How awesome would that be?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 27, 2016

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 7:55:38pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Yeesh, worst impression of Ray Winstone on a bender ever. //

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 7:56:54pm

Oh shit. Stay safe out there.

FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY in Downtown Kansas City. Water rescues ongoing. #mowx pic.twitter.com/f748uTOIUH

— James Aydelott☂✈ (@jamesaydelott) August 27, 2016

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 7:59:16pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

That would be totally awesome and totally Sunday evening at the latest. He’s outta there!

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 8:00:10pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 8:03:03pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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More campaign managers than Gingrich wives heh. I want to see this too for the Breitbart reaction.

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 8:03:47pm

Trump is apparently speaking tonight near where my brother works. So glad that him and I are more or less on the same page politically as is our other brother.

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 8:10:17pm

Whoa: Maine Governor LePage Calls Minorities the “Enemy,” Suggests They Should Be Shot. pic.twitter.com/Bicgew301U

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) August 27, 2016

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 8:10:17pm

Like many noted last month, if Hillary Clinton had appeared like Trump on the convention stage with five children by three husbands the immaturity would not only have broken the internet but possibly the entire solar system. Black hole avoided, thanks to the Hillmonster.

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 8:11:10pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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LaPage is a disgrace. Ergo why he’s such a favorite Trump surrogate.

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 8:11:37pm

re: #34 De Kolta Chair

Like many noted last month, if Hillary Clinton had appeared as did Trump on the convention stage with five children by three husbands, the immaturity would not only have broken the internet but possibly the entire solar system. Black hole avoided, thanks to the Hillmonster.

Same could be said by Obama.

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 8:13:37pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

;-)

HappyWarrior Aug 26, 2016 • 8:15:11pm

re: #37 De Kolta Chair

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;-)

I always wondered what the reaction by the right would have been had Obama’s daughters been in the same situation as Bristol Palin circa 2008. Hell, that’s honestly part of why the Palins disgust me so much. Obama showed a lot of genuine empathy to Bristol and didn’t slut shame her at all when the right definitely would have done that to Sasha or Malia. To make it clear, I’m talking about if Sasha or Malia were 18 years old in 2008 or 2012.

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 8:15:46pm

The Governor of Maine. pic.twitter.com/UjjVZYEscA

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) August 27, 2016

Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 8:16:39pm

Jesus.

jaunte Aug 26, 2016 • 8:17:04pm

Color-coded “enemies.”

Big Beautiful Door Aug 26, 2016 • 8:17:37pm

Ipsos released polls of a lot of states tonight, with some very strange results. Trump +3 in Wisconsin? Clinton +4 in Nebraska?

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 8:18:16pm

The Donald™ landed his plane at the local airport on Thursday. He then got into another much smaller plane and flew to Aspen, 35 miles directly south (it’s 65 miles by car from EGE to Aspen, it’s a beautiful drive, especially through Glenwood Canyon) for an expensive private fundraiser to the tune of $25,000 per couple.

Photo: Chris Dillmann - Vail Daily

Special to Vail Daily

The guy on the right is the sheriff of my county, James Van Beek, and that’s his wife Carrie on the left.

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Life is weird.

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Aug 26, 2016 • 8:18:59pm

There you go again, Charles, stooping to Trump’s level.

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freetoken Aug 26, 2016 • 8:19:33pm

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

Erratic results suggests to me that their demographic model is failing.

De Kolta Chair Aug 26, 2016 • 8:20:24pm

Later, lizarati

I made a cd today for a pal, and Johnny Rivers’ cover of Jimmy Webb’s song is by far my favorite cut…

Johnny Rivers - By The Time I Get To Phoenix

freetoken Aug 26, 2016 • 8:20:55pm

Probably, what is thought of as a “likely voter” is not going to work well in 2016, at least in the Ipsos model.

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Aug 26, 2016 • 8:23:00pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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“That Duterte guy has some great ideas, for a dusky fella.”

—Paul LePage, probably

Joe Bacon Aug 26, 2016 • 8:23:34pm

I’m just waiting for the Daily News to publish a picture of a topless Bannon showing his “88” and “14 Words” tattoos!

Big Beautiful Door Aug 26, 2016 • 8:24:21pm

re: #45 freetoken

Erratic results suggests to me that their demographic model is failing.

Most states were about what you would expect. NH was weird at +14 Trump, but its a small state that’s very swingy so its probably hard to poll. Trump had small leads in Ws, Mi and Maine, but that’s not enough for him to win.

Bill and Opus for 2016! Aug 26, 2016 • 8:29:15pm

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

Ipsos released polls of a lot of states tonight, with some very strange results. Trump +3 in Wisconsin? Clinton +4 in Nebraska?

They have Trump up in New Hampshire by +14, Maine +1, Michigan +1, and tied in South Carolina and only +6 in Alabama.

Every other poll out there has Clinton up by between 8-15 points in the first three states and South Carolina (Trump +5), and Alabama (Trump with double-digit lead).
I could see a little bit of a bounceback of 1-2 points for early this week (since polling post Clinton’s alt-right speech hasn’t hit yet), but these numbers are WAY off of what every other poll is indicating.

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 8:30:13pm

Damn, the sheriff of my county replied to me within a couple of minutes.

@teleskiguy most certainly

— James Van Beek (@lhs81631) August 27, 2016

Brian J. Aug 26, 2016 • 8:32:19pm

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

Ipsos released polls of a lot of states tonight, with some very strange results. Trump +3 in Wisconsin? Clinton +4 in Nebraska?

That ain’t the half of it for the peanut gallery. Trump +14 in New Hampshire and +21 in Indiana. Alabama and Kentucky are within the margin of error. Clinton +27 in Illinois and +36 in California (OK, that last one might happen).

Looking at the model, Ipsos expects just 30 percent of Hispanics to vote, an 18% decrease from 2012. 91 percent of people over 65 are expected to vote versus 15 percent of those 18-30. I could go on…

majii Aug 26, 2016 • 8:33:38pm

re: #34 De Kolta Chair

“Like many noted last month, if Hillary Clinton had appeared as did Trump on the convention stage with five children by three husbands, the immaturity would not only have broken the internet but possibly the entire solar system. Black hole avoided, thanks to the Hillmonster.”

The blatant hypocrisy on the right continues to amaze me, even after observing it for almost 40 years. The things they go after Democrats about such as Anthony Wiener’s pics on the internet are huge issues, but Dennis Hastert having molested teen wrestlers when he was their coach in high school is no big deal. That was a subject to be avoided, and so are Trump’s multiple marriages, affairs, racism and bigotry, and shady business practices. I can truly say that they can be led to believe what GOP leaders want them to believe. If they didn’t look like humans, one could picture them as parrots that repeat the garbage they’ve heard and/or have been told. Talking to one of them is like talking to all of them because they’ve all internalized the necessary RW talking points on every subject. For example, if you mention Trump’s racism and bigotry to any of them, you get a response about Robert Byrd every, single time.

Lidane Aug 26, 2016 • 8:38:39pm

Choose your own adventure: Either Trump’s doctor violated HIPAA laws by talking about him, or Trump was totally cool letting THAT GUY speak.

— side-eye spice (@goldengateblond) August 27, 2016

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 8:39:10pm

@teleskiguy 👍🏻

— James Van Beek (@lhs81631) August 27, 2016

This guy came to my front door during the election a couple of years ago and stated his case. I liked him, liked his credentials (Army Officer, police, community relations). Like a lot of places, counties in Colorado *elect* the sheriff so they have to be a cop *and* a politician. Van Beek was amiable, I told him I’d consider voting for him. Right before he left he asked “Any more questions about me?” I asked “Are you a registered Republican?” He answered yes. I told him, right on my front porch, that I couldn’t vote for him in good conscience because Republicans are insane. He shook my hand, thanked me for his time, and left. We talked for almost 10 minutes.

Van Beek won the election by fewer than 50 votes, closest election in Eagle County history.

majii Aug 26, 2016 • 8:39:13pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

“I always wondered what the reaction by the right would have been had Obama’s daughters been in the same situation as Bristol Palin circa 2008. Hell, that’s honestly part of why the Palins disgust me so much. Obama showed a lot of genuine empathy to Bristol and didn’t slut shame her at all when the right definitely would have done that to Sasha or Malia. To make it clear, I’m talking about if Sasha or Malia were 18 years old in 2008 or 2012.”

Had one of the Obama girls been pregnant out of wedlock in 2008, many on the right would still be talking about it the same way they’re still talking about the president is not an American citizen. Never mind that the GOP bills itself as the “Party of Family Values.” FVs don’t apply when someone in their party violates their FVs policy. It’s something they use to judge others, not themselves. They suffer from selective compassion and selective outrage. That they have a double standard based on “us” against “them” tells me that they speak their principles, but they don’t necessarily live by them.

Bill and Opus for 2016! Aug 26, 2016 • 8:43:37pm

re: #51 Bill and Opus for 2016!

They have Trump up in New Hampshire by +14, Maine +1, Michigan +1, and tied in South Carolina and only +6 in Alabama.

Every other poll out there has Clinton up by between 8-15 points in the first three states and South Carolina (Trump +5), and Alabama (Trump with double-digit lead).
I could see a little bit of a bounceback of 1-2 points for early this week (since polling post Clinton’s alt-right speech hasn’t hit yet), but these numbers are WAY off of what every other poll is indicating.

Digging a little deeper on these polls:

In South Carolina, Ipsos/Reuters had the same poll that ended one week ago. Trump was +9 on that one. Seven days later, he’s tied. In New Hampshire, Clinton went from +1 to -14 in one week. On a week-to-week model, these numbers are pretty much worthless.

jaunte Aug 26, 2016 • 8:46:45pm

Andy Borowitz: “Pence Recaptured After Fleeing Trump Campaign Bus”

goddamnedfrank Aug 26, 2016 • 8:47:06pm

That’s how insane today has been, it’s like a Thanksgiving Dinner of fuckery and we’re all just holding our bellies saying “please no more.”

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

goddamnedfrank Aug 26, 2016 • 8:50:48pm

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

Ipsos released polls of a lot of states tonight, with some very strange results. Trump +3 in Wisconsin? Clinton +4 in Nebraska?

Ipsos is just drunk and fucking with people for laughs at this point.

vgranucci Aug 26, 2016 • 8:52:23pm

re: #55 Lidane

Actually, when I saw the picture of the doctor my thought was “That’s his doctor? Looks more like his dealer”

Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 8:54:09pm

re: #62 vgranucci

Actually, when I saw the picture of the doctor my thought was “That’s his doctor? Looks more like his dealer”

Dr. Feelgood.

stpaulbear Aug 26, 2016 • 8:54:49pm

re: #62 vgranucci

Actually, when I saw the picture of the doctor my thought was “That’s his doctor? Looks more like his dealer”

Doctor Feelgood.

edit: Sigh. That’s what I get for bouncing back and forth between tabs.

whitebeach Aug 26, 2016 • 8:56:18pm

re: #57 majii

Had one of the Obama girls been pregnant out of wedlock in 2008, many on the right would still be talking about it the same way they’re still talking about the president is not an American citizen.

I think that if Obama had a daughter who was Bristol’s age and pregnant out of wedlock he would have lost by thirty points and no one would be talking about him at all. Such is the nature of the double or triple or quadruple standard that obtains in the land of the free. I don’t personally give a damn about someone’s marriage or lack of it, but when Bristol was up there on the stage at the RNC was when I truly began to realize the depth of right-wing hypocrisy.

jaunte Aug 26, 2016 • 8:56:44pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Kangaroos make things better

There is honestly no point in doing anything but this guy’s job. pic.twitter.com/b9YeTqtGCv

— Sloane Crosley (@askanyone) August 23, 2016

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 8:57:57pm

I mean, I have to say it ‘cause it’s never happened to me before. I just had a Twitter exchange with the top law enforcement honcho in my county.

TFW you just had a Twitter exchange with the sheriff of the county you live in. Well, if he follows me I’m going to follow right back!

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 27, 2016

goddamnedfrank Aug 26, 2016 • 8:58:00pm

… for talking shit about her patient, purporting to be privy to privileged medical information and thus disparaging her HIPPA compliance.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

FormerDirtDart Aug 26, 2016 • 9:04:07pm

Moving to win Arizona for first time in 20 years, Democrats and Clinton camp move 160 staffers in, open 20 offices. pic.twitter.com/URmKZjhSc2

— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) August 27, 2016

Fred72 Aug 26, 2016 • 9:04:56pm

The press is doing guilt by association: Bannon is a racist wife-beater, so Trump must be a racist wife-beater.

Oh, wait…

FormerDirtDart Aug 26, 2016 • 9:07:58pm

Interesting Freudian slip… https://t.co/PIgx86l5iA

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) August 27, 2016

Government gets their whiteness. But not the accused!

Sixth Amendment.
“In all criminal prosecutions, the… https://t.co/vytcLzbdVX

— Bundy Ranch (@BundyRanch) August 27, 2016

teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 9:09:22pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

Hispanic and Native American voter turnout in the American Southwest is key. Hill’s team is going about this the right way.

blueraven Aug 26, 2016 • 9:13:57pm

So I am watching “The Highwaymen Live” concert from 1990 on PBS (Willie, Waylon, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson) and OMG Willie sporting a mullet! I really don’t remember seeing that before.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:14:11pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

Hispanic and Native American voter turnout in the American Southwest is key. Hill’s team is going about this the right way.

It’s almost like she knows how to run a campaign!

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:16:58pm

It’s cool and breezy and the leaves are rustling in the wind and I can almost pretend it’s fall.*

* What passes for fall in CA, shush.**

** Look it’s been a long time since I had real seasons. I’m reaching here, I know.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 26, 2016 • 9:17:16pm

re: #66 jaunte

That’s the Kangaroo Dundee guy. He’s pretty badass.

BBC Natural World 2016 Kangaroo Dundee and Other Animals 1of2 HD

FormerDirtDart Aug 26, 2016 • 9:19:19pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

Hispanic and Native American voter turnout in the American Southwest is key. Hill’s team is going about this the right way.

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s almost like she knows how to run a campaign!

While Trump tries to poach Connecticut…

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:20:06pm

Learning to make a proper margarita at home was maybe not the best call but it is a damn tasty one.

Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 9:21:19pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

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This is what a professional campaign looks like, as opposed to the half-assed spectacle in Florida that’s operating out of U-Haul trailers.

Kragar Aug 26, 2016 • 9:21:23pm

I did not want to have to shell out money for a new fucking chair, god damn it.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 27, 2016

whitebeach Aug 26, 2016 • 9:21:40pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s cool and breezy and the leaves are rustling in the wind and I can almost pretend it’s fall.*

* What passes for fall in CA, shush.**

** Look it’s been a long time since I had real seasons. I’m reaching here, I know.

I guess you’re in southern Cal. I lived in San Francisco for three years, beautiful, beautiful city, and we sometimes went through four seasons in an afternoon.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:22:30pm

re: #81 whitebeach

I guess you’re in southern Cal. I lived in San Francisco for three years, beautiful, beautiful city, and we sometimes went through four seasons in an afternoon.

I’m about an hour or so south of SF. Unfortunately, while there is that lovely climate in SF, down here we don’t have nearly the maritime influence. I frequently see highs 20-30 degrees higher than the city.

Belafon Aug 26, 2016 • 9:22:54pm

If the House stays in Republican control, Clinton will be the first president since Cleveland to come in without control of Congress: politico.com.

FormerDirtDart Aug 26, 2016 • 9:24:46pm

An early look at tomorrow’s front page…
MAKE ISIS GREAT AGAIN Terrorists hope Trump wins https://t.co/2p4FykamMU pic.twitter.com/vQJODTXr4g

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) August 27, 2016

Ziggy_TARDIS Aug 26, 2016 • 9:25:02pm

re: #58 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Wow, those polls are essentially worthless.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:26:12pm

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 9:30:07pm

re: #85 Ziggy_TARDIS

Wow, those polls are essentially worthless.

The polls are effectively useless…which is why the press will obsess over them for the next few days, insisting this means the race is much “closer” than the public believes it is.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 26, 2016 • 9:31:03pm

re: #51 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Just proves all other polls are “skewed”!

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:31:32pm

re: #85 Ziggy_TARDIS

Wow, ~~those~~ polls are essentially worthless.

Fixed.

I’ll pay attention for about a week in October, right before we escape the country.

ipsos Aug 26, 2016 • 9:33:58pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Ipsos is just drunk and fucking with people for laughs at this point.

Damn right I am.

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What brand of chair, if I may ask?

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:37:13pm

re: #90 ipsos

Damn right I am.

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/offers another margarita

Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 9:37:32pm

Right now, the polls I’m looking at are the “tipping point” or “swing” states. Every single one of them is some shade of blue in most every projection I’ve seen. So long as that’s the case, Comrade Combover has no serious chance.

whitebeach Aug 26, 2016 • 9:37:47pm

re: #82 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m about an hour or so south of SF. Unfortunately, while there is that lovely climate in SF, down here we don’t have nearly the maritime influence. I frequently see highs 20-30 degrees higher than the city.

Ah, god, just your proximity to the lovely place is giving me a nostalgia attack. I remember watching the fog pour in under the Golden Gate from a corner of the curved bay window of my Hyde Street apartment, in a building that had survived the 1906 quake and fire, and which cost me $90 a month, which struck me as exorbitant. I doubt if I could get it for $3000/month today.

Single-handed sailor Aug 26, 2016 • 9:38:58pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:40:04pm

re: #94 whitebeach

Ah, god, just your proximity to the lovely place is giving me a nostalgia attack. I remember watching the fog pour in under the Golden Gate from a corner of the curved bay window of my Hyde Street apartment, in a building that had survived the 1906 quake and fire, and which cost me $90 a month, which struck me as exorbitant. I doubt if I could get it for $3000/month today.

Probably more like $6 or $7k these days.

SF rents are just crazy. Absolutely crazy.

Not that the rest of the Bay Area is that much better, but in comparison, yes. (I paid $1400 a month on campus for a one bedroom apartment in 2007. That was quite good in comparison to the going rate in the surrounding area, which has only gotten worse.)

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 9:42:14pm

re: #95 Single-handed sailor

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whitebeach Aug 26, 2016 • 9:57:56pm

re: #96 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Probably more like $6 or $7k these days.

SF rents are just crazy. Absolutely crazy.

How this saddens me. I could afford my nice little one-bedroom place working as a pizza cook and part-time temp laborer with no particular problem, all while trying to teach myself how to write. I wonder now how young people like I was then can even possibly afford to live in the City, and how many others like themselves they can possibly find to befriend.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 10:04:18pm

re: #98 whitebeach

How this saddens me. I could afford my nice little one-bedroom place working as a pizza cook and part-time temp laborer with no particular problem, all while trying to teach myself how to write. I wonder now how young people like I was then can even possibly afford to live in the City, and how many others like themselves they can possibly find to befriend.

It’s …bad. It’s a major problem, exacerbated by the salaries paid to the software engineers by a lot of the Silicon Valley companies. (And full disclosure, my husband and I benefit quite nicely from that. But that doesn’t mean I can’t recognize what’s happening and be saddened by it too.)

There’s a reason there have been protests aimed at the Google buses. (Although they’re definitely not the only culprits here. And how effective those protests have been is another discussion.)

SF isn’t the only problem either; Palo Alto hit the news recently because the planning commissioner wrote a rather spectacular resignation letter calling out the city council for refusing to do anything to try and lower housing costs in the town.* The mayor followed it up with a completely tone deaf interview defending what the town has done. I know about this because a friend - someone who has her Ph.D., is married, and I believe they both work for Google, which certainly has a reputation here of being generous when it comes to compensation - just had to move because they couldn’t afford to buy in the town. The fixer-uppers go for a million+, and anything under two has multiple offers and probably needs 200-300k of work.

CA real estate is an incredible piece of work, and I don’t mean that in a complimentary way.

* I’m tipsy and my memory may be slightly off on the specifics.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 10:04:23pm

Has any big time R responded to the Hillary speech yesterday? In any fashion? I understand that Congress is out of session, but no tweets, no Facebook, no nothing?

Is there a secret meeting in a secure bunker tomorrow?

The (crickets) are at about 180 decibels at this point, which will make your ears bleed.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 10:12:08pm

re: #100 austin_blue

Has any big time R responded to the Hillary speech yesterday? In any fashion? I understand that Congress is out of session, but no tweets, no Facebook, no nothing?

Is there a secret meeting in a secure bunker tomorrow?

The (crickets) are at about 180 decibels at this point, which will make your ears bleed.

Nothing, nada. Ryan and McConnell’s spokespeople have just shrugged their shoulders and said they don’t think their bosses have seen the speech. Where usually there’d be a flood of voices insisting that Trump isn’t a racist, only silence is to be heard.

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DodgerFan1988 Aug 26, 2016 • 10:15:59pm

Trump’s adviser is anti-semitic? I’m shocked! Absolutely shocked!

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stpaulbear Aug 26, 2016 • 10:16:02pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Nothing, nada. Ryan and McConnell’s spokespeople have just shrugged their shoulders and said they don’t think their bosses have seen the speech. Where usually there’d be a flood of voices insisting that Trump isn’t a racist, only silence is to be heard.

I wonder if Gannon has them all scared to say anything right now. He’s obviously as bad as Hillary said he is, and he’s getting worse by the minute. Popcorn.

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Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 10:18:45pm

Bannon takes first run outside the Breitbart freak bubble. pic.twitter.com/r4FbbMMzAG

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 27, 2016

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teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 10:19:59pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Great White Snark Aug 26, 2016 • 10:21:59pm

re: #100 austin_blue

I don’t expect a public response. Back channel though…. She has them right where they want her. They would burn to the ground rather than okay single payer and her economic policy well in advance of the election.

They won’t take that deal.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 10:24:42pm

I just sit here and marvel at how I’m gonna be able to recall this election to future generations. “Yeah, a reality TV ‘star’ ran for the presidency and ran such an inept campaign that his own party wanted nothing to do with him.”

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 10:27:25pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Nothing, nada. Ryan and McConnell’s spokespeople have just shrugged their shoulders and said they don’t think their bosses have seen the speech. Where usually there’d be a flood of voices insisting that Trump isn’t a racist, only silence is to be heard.

What do you think that means? It’s obviously a huge moment in the election cycle, isn’t it? I mean, she just slapped him in the face with the glove. It’s a put up or shut up moment,

The R’s have to respond, at some level, or they will lose the entire narrative for the remaining seventy days, and that will absolutely go down-ballot to both Senate and Congressional elections. It’s all about how it will play with soft R’s in the suburbs. If they don’t forcefully respond, they’re toast.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 10:28:20pm

re: #108 austin_blue

What do you think that means? It’s obviously a huge moment in the election cycle, isn’t it? I mean, she just slapped him in the face with the glove. It’s a put up or shut up moment,

The R’s have to respond, at some level, or they will lose the entire narrative for the remaining seventy days, and that will absolutely go down-ballot to both Senate and Congressional elections. It’s all about how it will play with soft R’s in the suburbs. If they don’t forcefully respond, they’re toast.

Nah, the media is all happy to do the “both sides” bit for them. Why disrupt that?

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whitebeach Aug 26, 2016 • 10:29:40pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There’s a reason there have been protests aimed at the Google buses. (Although they’re definitely not the only culprits here. And how effective those protests have been is another discussion.)

Maybe that’s another difference. Given the same conditions in ‘69 or ‘70, we probably would have pulled the people off and burned those buses to the tire rims. Or who knows. Our ideals obviously didn’t work out.

* I’m tipsy and my memory may be slightly off on the specifics.

What are you raving about now? I don’t even slightly recognize the condition to which you refer.

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Great White Snark Aug 26, 2016 • 10:30:11pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

The whole media and Donald Trump story is one for the books. he thought he had them in his control. Like any egotistical show star. The self declared indispensable star. Then he took it to politics and expected the same treatment as a senior Senator from a big state with countless re elections under his belt. The indispensable pork winning Senator.

Idiot failed to observe the media crashes out TV stars every year like you or I take meals. Just trying to be a senior politician does not grant you immunity from the ratings win of the vast public melt down/crash and burn of a TV personality.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 10:33:31pm

re: #108 austin_blue

What do you think that means? It’s obviously a huge moment in the election cycle, isn’t it? I mean, she just slapped him in the face with the glove. It’s a put up or shut up moment,

The R’s have to respond, at some level, or they will lose the entire narrative for the remaining seventy days, and that will absolutely go down-ballot to both Senate and Congressional elections. It’s all about how it will play with soft R’s in the suburbs. If they don’t forcefully respond, they’re toast.

Honestly, I think it means that the party has abandoned him to his fate and is now focused totally on trying to retain as much control over Congress as they can manage. The less said, the bigger hope they have that the damage can be confined to the top of the ticket.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 10:33:41pm

re: #110 whitebeach

What are you raving about now? I don’t even slightly recognize the condition to which you refer.

I dunno, but it’s tasty gin.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 10:34:42pm

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nah, the media is all happy to do the “both sides” bit for them. Why disrupt that?

The silence from the Republican leaders will be telling . They must respond. No media balance fairy bullshit will compensate for their silence. And the Clinton camp will make sure it doesn’t. Professional staff is professional. Just like the brilliant fuckers who wrote her speech yesterday.

That was a kickass piece of work.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 10:38:38pm

re: #114 austin_blue

The silence from the Republican leaders will be telling . They must respond. No media balance fairy bullshit will compensate for their silence. And the Clinton camp will make sure sure it doesn’t. Professional staff is professional. Just like the brilliant fuckers who wrote her speech yesterday.

That was a kickass piece of work.

The media has to highlight it though and I don’t think the media is particularly interested in reporting the facts. Or reality. Or anything beyond their fever dreams.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 10:39:14pm

re: #114 austin_blue

The silence from the Republican leaders will be telling . They must respond. No media balance fairy bullshit will compensate for their silence. And the Clinton camp will make sure sure it doesn’t. Professional staff is professional. Just like the brilliant fuckers who wrote her speech yesterday.

That was a kickass piece of work.

What Hillary did with her speech yesterday is basically offered the GOP an out from precisely this predicament. She could have laid into the party as a whole, accused them of agreeing with his racism, of approving of it because they are a party that embraces racism. But no, she instead she praised past Republican candidates and presented Trump as an outsider who’s usurped the party nomination. She gunshot Trump and now the GOP is gonna sit back and let him bleed out.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 10:44:45pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

Honestly, I think it means that the party has abandoned him to his fate and is now focused totally on trying to retain as much control over Congress as they can manage. The less said, the bigger hope they have that the damage can be confined to the top of the ticket.

Well that’s a tenuous position, isn’t it? Their peeps won’t come out to vote without a strong GOTV program, which will be hard to justify without support for the top of the ticket.

It appears they may be kind of fucked.

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TK-421 Aug 26, 2016 • 10:46:09pm

Heh. I broke the right arm off my chair couple months back. Easier to play my acoustic now. Win/win!

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Dr Lizardo Aug 26, 2016 • 10:52:07pm

re: #111 Great White Snark

The whole media and Donald trump story is one for the books. he thought he had them in his control. Like any egotistical show star. The self declared indispensable star. Then he took it to politics and expected the same treatment as a senior Senator from a big state with countless re elections under his belt. The indispensable pork winning Senator.

Idiot failed to observe the media crashes out TV stars every year like you or I take meals. Just trying to be a senior politician does not grant you immunity from the ratings win of the vast public melt down/crash and burn of a TV personality.

And that right there is pure ratings gold. There was, from what I recall reading about, actual live news coverage of Britney Spears’ meltdown a few years back. And it’s entirely fair to say that Mr. Trump is a TV celebrity - he has been nationally known since the 1980’s. His campaign is like one of those police pursuits, the one where the suspect is driving at high speed and erratically…..and everyone knows damn well that it’s gonna end badly; people can’t help but watch. It’s morbid curiosity.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 10:57:08pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

What Hillary did with her speech yesterday is basically offered the GOP an out from precisely this predicament. She could have laid into the party as a whole, accused them of agreeing with his racism, of approving of it because they are a party that embraces racism. But no, she instead she praised past Republican candidates and presented Trump as an outsider who’s usurped the party nomination. She gunshot Trump and now the GOP is gonna sit back and let him bleed out.

Yes, she absolutely did. By embracing Dole, George HW Bush, and John McCain, she was in fact saying “come to me, we can make a better America”. That was cheeky as hell, but this election will be decided in how it plays in Plano and the rest of the normally R-leaning urban ‘burbs. Again, the R leadership must respond or cede the battlefield.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 11:01:13pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Yes, she absolutely did. By embracing Dole, George HW Bush, and John McCain, she was in fact saying “come to me, we can make a better America”. That was cheeky as hell, but this election will be decided in how it plays in Plano and the rest of the normally R-leaning urban ‘burbs. Again, the R leadership must respond or cede the battlefield.

a) What do they say? She used his own words, in context.

b) How much do they really want to defend him right now?

c) I made a tasty new recipe for dinner tonight. Lemon honey chicken thighs. I think I’m finally getting the hang of cooking chicken thighs. (Chicken breasts continue to be the spawn of evil.)

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 11:02:10pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Yes, she absolutely did. By embracing Dole, George HW Bush, and John McCain, she was in fact saying “come to me, we can make a better America”. That was cheeky as hell, but this election will be decided in how it plays in Plano and the rest of the normally R-leaning urban ‘burbs. Again, the R leadership must respond or cede the battlefield.

With Thursday’s speech, she’s got the GOP over a barrel here. They can’t defend Trump without basically leaving them open to charges that they’re defending a racist, which will only further hurt them with anybody who’s not angry and white. But attacking him is likewise unwise as that will likely draw anger towards the party itself. So, in this situation, silence really is their only viable option.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 26, 2016 • 11:04:14pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

With Thursday’s speech, she’s got the GOP over a barrel here. They can’t defend Trump without basically leaving them open to charges that they’re defending a racist, which will only further hurt them with anybody who’s not angry and white. But attacking him is likewise unwise as that will likely draw anger towards the party itself. So, in this situation, silence really is their only viable option.

A no-win scenario.

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teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 11:04:23pm

re: #114 austin_blue

That was a kickass piece of work.

Yes. Fuckin’ aye!

But it’s not getting the appropriate exposure on TV and internet. And there is one reason for this:

SHE’S A CLINTON, THERE IS BAD!

This train of thought has been going on since Bill Clinton was elected President in 1992.

That was almost 24 years ago.

I’M WITH HER, long story short …

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 11:05:16pm

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

A no-win scenario.

Kobayashi Maru.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 11:06:14pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

Kobayashi Maru.

Don’t say that. Then all they need is a competent hacker to win and I’m pretty sure Russia is happy to volunteer.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 11:09:12pm

re: #126 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also oh god I just cemented my nerd cred hardcore there.

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Dave In Austin Aug 26, 2016 • 11:10:44pm

Good evening……..

Umphrey’s McGee: “Phil’s Farm” 08/06/16

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 11:18:12pm

Really, the best case scenario at this point for the GOP is the fence-sitters in the ranks are convinced that voting against Trump but in favor of Repubs down the ticket will not make them disloyal to the party. Because if enough of them feel that they cannot vote for the party so long as Trump is as the top of the ticket, then Hillary could run up the scoreboard high enough to snatch not only the Senate but the House from them.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 11:20:08pm

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

A no-win scenario.

Yup. Exactly. I imagine there are a lot of R Congressmen (and women) who are looking at each other and wondering how badly fucked they are and how the R leadership s going to pull their asses out of the fire.

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teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 11:24:47pm

re: #128 Dave In Austin

These guys are good.

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teleskiguy Aug 26, 2016 • 11:31:26pm

re: #128 Dave In Austin

Oh yeah! That is a fuck of a Phil’s Farm! And Phil’s Farm has a long history of fuckery! Umphrey’s McGee is a great band!

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 11:32:29pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

Really, the best case scenario at this point for the GOP is the fence-sitters in the ranks are convinced that voting against Trump but in favor of Repubs down the ticket will not make them disloyal to the party. Because if enough of them feel that they cannot vote for the party so long as Trump is as the top of the ticket, then Hillary could run up the scoreboard high enough to snatch not only the Senate but the House from them.

I don’t think that’s correct. The gerrymandering that came out of the 2010 census will *always* favor an R majority in the House until the next census. The R’s have been very good at dominating State Legislatures over the past thirty years.

Where they have majorities, they draw Congressional Districts. My town is represented by five Congressmen, and is the largest city in the US without a single Congressional voice. The Congressional delegation representing Austin is four R’s and one D, in the most liberal city in the state.

That took some work.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 11:36:37pm

re: #133 austin_blue

I don’t think that’s correct. The gerrymandering that came out of the 2010 census will *always* favor an R majority in the House until the next census. The R’s have been very good at dominating State Legislatures over the past thirty years.

Where they have majorities, they draw Congressional Districts. My town is represented by five Congressmen, and is the largest city in the US without a single Congressional voice. The Congressional delegation representing Austin is four R’s and one D, in the most liberal city in the state.

That took some work.

But as noted, what’s going to make or break the GOP is turnout. If Hillary is winning by 8% or better, then that’s going to translate down the ticket to other races. That level of turnout in her favor could be enough to shift races that would come down single digits.

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Charles Johnson Aug 26, 2016 • 11:39:46pm

Don’t take this the wrong way, but fuck off, you racist bag of shit. @RadixJournal

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 27, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Aug 26, 2016 • 11:39:57pm

re: #130 austin_blue

Yup. Exactly. I imagine there are a lot of R Congressmen (and women) who are looking at each other and wondering how badly fucked they are and how the R leadership s going to pull their asses out of the fire.

I imagine the GOP leadership is looking at each other and wondering how badly fucked they are. There doesn’t seem to be much they can do at this point - it’s far too late to stop Trump now, so they’ve probably just resigned themselves to the fact that all they can do is just ride it out and hope it doesn’t end in a total debacle.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 11:41:40pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

But as noted, what’s going to make or break the GOP is turnout. If Hillary is winning by 8% or better, then that’s going to translate down the ticket to other races. That level of turnout in her favor could be enough to shift races that would come down single digits.

And again, right now the media is presenting this as a “both sides” issue.* If the GOP starts making a bigger stink about this, that framing might change - and it might not be beneficial to the GOP.

* HAHAHAHAHA oh god.**

** Yes it is the night of the asterisk.

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Targetpractice Aug 26, 2016 • 11:49:03pm

re: #137 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And again, right now the media is presenting this as a “both sides” issue.* If the GOP starts making a bigger stink about this, that framing might change - and it might not be beneficial to the GOP.

* HAHAHAHAHA oh god.**

** Yes it is the night of the asterisk.

Ayep. She did the GOP a massive favor by divorcing Trump’s actions from the party proper. If they make a stink about it, she may very well take back that favor and attack the party proper. And the last thing the party wants is to go into the last two months of the election fighting against accusations that Trump got this far because the party either supports racism or turns a blind eye to racist candidates.

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austin_blue Aug 26, 2016 • 11:49:09pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

But as noted, what’s going to make or break the GOP is turnout. If Hillary is winning by 8% or better, then that’s going to translate down the ticket to other races. That level of turnout in her favor could be enough to shift races that would come down single digits.

Maybe. It’s just that the districts were so front loaded with Ds/Rs separated that a huge proportion of the R polity would have to stay at home, while the D polity would have to come out in huge numbers to vote to make a difference.

It’s a tough road to hoe, given the Congressional districts as they exist. It could certainly happen, but that would not be where I would place my money.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 26, 2016 • 11:55:24pm

re: #139 austin_blue

Maybe. It’s just that the districts were so front loaded with Ds/Rs separated that a huge proportion of the R polity would have to stay at home, while the D polity would have to come out in huge numbers to vote to make a difference.

It’s a tough road to hoe, given the Congressional districts as they exist. It could certainly happen, but that would not be where I would place my money.

Isn’t the metaphor row to hoe?

Or have I just always misunderstood it?

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austin_blue Aug 27, 2016 • 12:02:06am

re: #134 Targetpractice

But as noted, what’s going to make or break the GOP is turnout. If Hillary is winning by 8% or better, then that’s going to translate down the ticket to other races. That level of turnout in her favor could be enough to shift races that would come down single digits.

I agree, but I don’t think 8% is going to feed the bulldog. She may get 8% in the General nationally, but it may not translate into 8% on the local level.

The majority of sitting R Congresscritters will be re-elected if they go and sit in their closets for the next 70 days. That’s just demographic reality.

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Targetpractice Aug 27, 2016 • 12:03:09am

re: #139 austin_blue

Maybe. It’s just that the districts were so front loaded with Ds/Rs separated that a huge proportion of the R polity would have to stay at home, while the D polity would have to come out in huge numbers to vote to make a difference.

It’s a tough road to hoe, given the Congressional districts as they exist. It could certainly happen, but that would not be where I would place my money.

I’m not saying it’s likely to happen, but the more depressed the GOP turnout is, the more likely that even a moderate Dem turnout could flip the script. Turnout is always the big thing in an election and Trump is doing everything possible to keep everybody but the diehards at home. Willard carried 93% of the GOP vote in 2012 vs Obama carrying 92% of the Dem vote and he still lost by better than 5 million votes. Food for thought.

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austin_blue Aug 27, 2016 • 12:05:09am

re: #140 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Isn’t the metaphor row to hoe?

Or have I just always misunderstood it?

I think you are right! I’m blaming the single malt.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 12:05:51am

re: #143 austin_blue

I think you are right! I’m blaming the single malt.

It’s all good.

So says the rum.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 12:08:11am

Stein on Baraka:

His very blunt and inflammatory language on occasion speaks to a very large demographic that feels like they have been thrown under the bus and they have been locked out.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:08:23am

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Ipsos is just drunk and fucking with people for laughs at this point.

I wouldn’t entirely rule out the possibility that a candidate as weird as Trump will result in some weird polling.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 12:11:10am

re: #146 Big Beautiful Door

I wouldn’t entirely rule out the possibility that a candidate as weird as Trump will result in some weird polling.

Also they changed their polling methodology at the end of July.

I can’t find any references that they’ve done it again, but with swings like that I have to consider it possible.

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austin_blue Aug 27, 2016 • 12:12:12am

re: #142 Targetpractice

I’m not saying it’s likely to happen, but the more depressed the GOP turnout is, the more likely that even a moderate Dem turnout could flip the script. Turnout is always the big thing in an election and Trump is doing everything possible to keep everybody but the diehards at home. Willard carried 93% of the GOP vote in 2012 vs Obama carrying 92% of the Dem vote and he still lost by better than 5 million votes. Food for thought.

Agreed. Again, it’s all about how toxic Trump is in urban burbs and exurbs. Traditional R voters.

Republican women will decide this election. Dead Bang.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:23:11am

re: #87 Targetpractice

The polls are effectively useless…which is why the press will obsess over them for the next few days, insisting this means the race is much “closer” than the public believes it is.

In a lot of ways these polls are bad for Trump. I’d love to believe that he is leading Clinton in Kentucky by only +2, but lets just say I’m a bit skeptical of that.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:29:48am

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s …bad. It’s a major problem, exacerbated by the salaries paid to the software engineers by a lot of the Silicon Valley companies. (And full disclosure, my husband and I benefit quite nicely from that. But that doesn’t mean I can’t recognize what’s happening and be saddened by it too.)

There’s a reason there have been protests aimed at the Google buses. (Although they’re definitely not the only culprits here. And how effective those protests have been is another discussion.)

SF isn’t the only problem either; Palo Alto hit the news recently because the planning commissioner wrote a rather spectacular resignation letter calling out the city council for refusing to do anything to try and lower housing costs in the town.* The mayor followed it up with a completely tone deaf interview defending what the town has done. I know about this because a friend - someone who has her Ph.D., is married, and I believe they both work for Google, which certainly has a reputation here of being generous when it comes to compensation - just had to move because they couldn’t afford to buy in the town. The fixer-uppers go for a million+, and anything under two has multiple offers and probably needs 200-300k of work.

CA real estate is an incredible piece of work, and I don’t mean that in a complimentary way.

* I’m tipsy and my memory may be slightly off on the specifics.

Its a major problem that is probably shaving points off of GDP growth because people can’t afford to move to the economically hottest areas of the country where they could earn higher wages. Excessive zoning for single family homes blocking the construction of higher density housing is a form of housing discrimination which needs to end.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:46:28am

re: #139 austin_blue

Maybe. It’s just that the districts were so front loaded with Ds/Rs separated that a huge proportion of the R polity would have to stay at home, while the D polity would have to come out in huge numbers to vote to make a difference.

It’s a tough road to hoe, given the Congressional districts as they exist. It could certainly happen, but that would not be where I would place my money.

Its close to impossible, when obviously in a fair election system if you got the majority of the vote you should get a majority in the House. Its possible once Clinton gets to fill a Court vacancy that the Court may rule at some point that its unconstitutional to gerrymander districts to cause a political party to waste an excessive number of votes.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:49:29am

Looks like everyone has gone to bed; even steelph has quit updinging me, so I guess I’m just talking to myself now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 12:50:00am

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like everyone has gone to bed; even steelph has quit updinging me, so I guess I’m just talking to myself now.

Nah, I’m sitting here watching Youtube and stitching.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 27, 2016 • 12:50:03am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

In a lot of ways these polls are bad for Trump. I’d love to believe that he is leading Clinton in Kentucky by only +2, but lets just say I’m a bit skeptical of that.

My gut feeling is that Ipsos is aiming for quantity not quality right now. They’ve been dumping an absolute buttload of polls in tons of States, even non-comepetitive ones like California … why? Seriously, why? They’re an online pollster and I’m just getting the feeling that there’s a lot of noise in that signal.

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Single-handed sailor Aug 27, 2016 • 12:53:16am

re: #144 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s all good.

So says the rum.

I got into the Mt Gay rum, I just lost 2 hours somewhere.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 12:54:21am

re: #155 Single-handed sailor

I got into the Mt Gay rum, I just lost 2 hours somewhere.

I put a splash of Kraken in my Coke.

Maybe it was a bigger splash than intended.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:54:59am

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

My gut feeling is that Ipsos is aiming for quantity not quality right now. They’ve been dumping an absolute buttload of polls in tons of States, even non-comepetitive ones like California … why? Seriously, why? They’re an online pollster and I’m just getting the feeling that there’s a lot of noise in that signal.

I’ll indulge this fantasy a bit though. The presidential race in Kentucky doesn’t matter in and of itself because if Clinton did win Kentucky it would just be piling on a landslide victory. But if she really is competative in Kentucky, just maybe Rand Paul might have some trouble winning reelection. That might make it worth making a contribution to his democratic opponent, Jim Gray, which I’ve resisted doing because I don’t like throwing my money away on lost causes.

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freetoken Aug 27, 2016 • 12:55:16am

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As the religious folk say, God ain’t making any more land. (Well, there are volcanoes, but coastal erosion probably takes away more land than volcanoes add.)

As our population grows we will see increased demand for land in all the desirable areas.

Like California.

And for agriculture the same phenomenon occurs. Some of my relatives in fly-over country now have farms valued in the multi-millions of dollars.

Land speculation is risky, but long-term land holding is not, at least in any part of the world that has population growth. If one is willing to keep the same piece of land in the US for 30 years you’ll be doing ok, assuming the land is in a desirable area.

The solution for a growing population is higher density, but that requires planning, including mass transportation.

But Americans are taught trains are evil, that real personhood is expressed through the automobile(s) one owns, and thus we are damning ourselves into unreasonable and unsustainable “growth.”

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goddamnedfrank Aug 27, 2016 • 1:03:43am

re: #157 Big Beautiful Door

Here’s the best indicator we have that Ipsos is on meth:

They’ve got two 20 day long polls for New Hampshire that overlap by 13 days, meaning that the polls only have one week of different data between them out of nearly three weeks worth of data in each poll. The first set has Clinton ahead by 1, the second has Trump ahead by 14.

Meth. Nothing else accounts for a 15 point swing in the Granite State in that period of time.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:04:08am

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like everyone has gone to bed; even steelph has quit updinging me, so I guess I’m just talking to myself now.

3 to 11 shift just suiting up.

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freetoken Aug 27, 2016 • 1:04:29am

In working on my family tree I have become more appreciative of just how our society has changed, or not.

Projecting forward, I have a hard time avoiding the idea that we will turn into a hybrid between a feudal state and a meritocracy.

Something akin to periods in Chinese history.

A very small number of people will own great wealth - by which I mean land and water. Then there will be the professionals who service the overlords. Then there will be the great unwashed masses.

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freetoken Aug 27, 2016 • 1:05:19am

And the most important professionals in service to the lords will be “law enforcement” and “military”.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:06:29am

re: #161 freetoken

In working on my family tree I have become more appreciative of just how our society has changed, or not.

Projecting forward, I have a hard time avoiding the idea that we will turn into a hybrid between a feudal state and a meritocracy.

Something akin to periods in Chinese history.

A very small number of people will own great wealth - by which I mean land and water. Then there will be the professionals who service the overlords. Then there will be the great unwashed masses.

Miraculous Mandarins

Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin / Mehta · Berliner Philharmoniker

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:08:23am

Well, that sucks at 3AM.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:09:12am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Well, that sucks at 3AM.

What does?

I still have 2 hours to avoid it.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 1:09:19am

re: #161 freetoken

In working on my family tree I have become more appreciative of just how our society has changed, or not.

Projecting forward, I have a hard time avoiding the idea that we will turn into a hybrid between a feudal state and a meritocracy.

Something akin to periods in Chinese history.

A very small number of people will own great wealth - by which I mean land and water. Then there will be the professionals who service the overlords. Then there will be the great unwashed masses.

That may be the GOP vision. But if we can get the votes for progressive change we can create a more robust redistributionist welfare state such as exists in much of Europe to avoid that fate. That may be Trump’s long term gift to us, by handing the GOP to white nationalists and sealing a democratic coalition of the growing American demographic groups.

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Targetpractice Aug 27, 2016 • 1:09:50am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

3 to 11 shift just suiting up.

I’m on hour 5 of graveyard over here.

In related news, my social life is now nonexistent.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:10:28am

re: #167 Targetpractice

I’m on hour 5 of graveyard over here.

In related news, my social life is now nonexistent.

I resemble that remark, minus the excuse of graveyard shift.

Besides, don’t we count for something?

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freetoken Aug 27, 2016 • 1:10:51am

More suitable for the wee hours of the morn:

Reverie - Claude Debussy

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 1:12:28am

I’m going back to bed and see if I can get more sleep before my kid’s soccer game in the morning. Night all!

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TK-421 Aug 27, 2016 • 1:13:31am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

3 to 11 shift just suiting up.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:14:56am

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What does?

I still have 2 hours to avoid it.

That snippet of Bartok.

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TK-421 Aug 27, 2016 • 1:15:31am

I ordered 12 pair of locking pliers yesterday. Having a few regrets now. Shipping out of Wasilla!

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Targetpractice Aug 27, 2016 • 1:15:50am

I need a vacation. Somebody kidnap me, please?

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:16:47am

re: #173 TK-421

I ordered 12 pair of locking pliers yesterday. Having a few regrets now. Shipping out of Wasilla!

Vise-grip capital of Russo-America.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:17:22am

re: #174 Targetpractice

I need a vacation. Somebody kidnap me, please?

//

You wouldn’t like it here.

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TK-421 Aug 27, 2016 • 1:18:18am

Made in Spain grip-on pliers. Shipping to Wisconsin from Alaska. 8 bux. What a world we live in.

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freetoken Aug 27, 2016 • 1:18:36am

re: #166 Big Beautiful Door

I’m pretty sure that Drumpfskind’s plan is for Drumpfskind’s self-glorification. Full stop.

As for the rest of our society - I suspect we’ll just amble on and end up where we will. There is no master plan (contra certain religious dogma and Masonry conspiracists) - humans just do our primate-thing.

We care about reproductive opportunities and our place in the pyramid. The group-myopia is strong.

Which is why big picture policy fails in political battles (e.g., climate change mitigation.)

How we as a nation can do better is probably rooted in our getting back to accepting that our local community politics need real attention - the turnout is so low in non-Presidential elections that only a small fraction of a community ends up running the whole show.

And maybe most people are fine with that. Let someone else make the decisions.

Just give me cake.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:21:40am

I’ve slept 4 hours since the last wine and last coffee. The decision point rolls around again.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:22:05am

re: #179 Decatur Deb

I’ve slept 4 hours since the last wine and last coffee. The decision point rolls around again.

I’d go back to bed, but that’s me.

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William Lewis Aug 27, 2016 • 1:22:32am

re: #162 freetoken

And the most important professionals in service to the lords will be “law enforcement” and “military”.

The shire reeve and the knight’s fee? Ah the more things change…

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:23:32am

re: #178 freetoken

I’m pretty sure that Drumpfskind’s plan is for Drumpfskind’s glorification. Full stop.

As for the rest of our society - I suspect we’ll just amble on and end up where we will. There is no master plan (contra certain religious dogma and Masonry conspiracists) - humans just do our primate-thing.

We care about reproductive opportunities and our place in the pyramid. The group-myopia is strong.

Which is why big picture policy fails in political battles (e.g., climate change mitigation.)

How we as a nation can do better is probably rooted in our getting back to accepting that our local community politics need real attention - the turnout is so low in non-Presidential elections that only a small fraction of a community ends up running the whole show.

And maybe most people are fine with that. Let someone else make the decisions.

Just give me cake.

The Skin of Our Teeth is more prophetic than Brave New World. I hope.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 1:25:24am

re: #178 freetoken

And maybe most people are fine with that. Let someone else make the decisions.

Just give me cake.

Sad but true, and occasionally, with ghastly consequences. See: Peoples Temple/Rev. Jim Jones.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:27:11am

re: #180 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’d go back to bed, but that’s me.

So retired that two 3-hr blocks of sleep in 24 is perfectly workable.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:28:02am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

So retired that two 3-hr blocks of sleep in 24 is perfectly workable.

I look forward to that point.

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William Lewis Aug 27, 2016 • 1:29:27am

re: #167 Targetpractice

I’m on hour 5 of graveyard over here.

In related news, my social life is now nonexistent.

Social life? What’s that? Slightly more seriously, LGF is my social life anymore.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:30:58am

re: #185 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I look forward to that point.

No one in the country is getting enough sleep. That might explain a lot.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:33:20am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

No one in the country is getting enough sleep. That might explain a lot.

According to my FitBit, if I am in bed “asleep” for 8 hours, I am actually sleeping for 4-5.5 hours.

There’s a history of apnea in the family, so I figure I should probably go get tested, but I really hate the idea of having to wear the sleep mask all the time. So I haven’t yet.

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Targetpractice Aug 27, 2016 • 1:33:46am

re: #186 William Lewis

Social life? What’s that? Slightly more seriously, LGF is my social life anymore.

Amen to that.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:35:53am

re: #188 klys (maker of Silmarils)

According to my FitBit, if I am in bed “asleep” for 8 hours, I am actually sleeping for 4-5.5 hours.

There’s a history of apnea in the family, so I figure I should probably go get tested, but I really hate the idea of having to wear the sleep mask all the time. So I haven’t yet.

Get tested, then do what you want. (Might be other ways to mitigate.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 1:36:28am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

Get tested, then do what you want. (Might be other ways to mitigate.)

It’s on the list to address with the doctor at my next physical.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:38:27am

It’s always good to know what to do, so you can make an informed decision not to do it.

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Targetpractice Aug 27, 2016 • 1:39:05am

“Sleep”? What is this “sleep” madness?

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:41:35am

National Geographic Channel is offering Biker Chicks: Leather and Lace.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:49:31am

At 4 HBO is doing a documentary on homeless kids who live in Orange County motels and try to go to school…

This morning’s media is turned upside-down.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 1:59:05am

Made coffee, so the day must be beginning and not ending.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 2:00:22am

re: #193 Targetpractice

“Sleep”? What is this “sleep” madness?

Something to talk about when you’re getting any—it’s like sex.

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William Lewis Aug 27, 2016 • 2:01:46am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

At 4 HBO is doing a documentary on homeless kids who live in Orange County motels and try to go to school…

This morning’s media is turned upside-down.

The bigger problem is that it is on at 4:00am not that it is on an entertainment network. It should be on in prime time but thst would require multiple acts of journalism and lord knows we can’t have that…

I wonder if it might have been different if we’d had a BBC model instead of having advertising pay for TV.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 2:04:55am

re: #198 William Lewis

True, that.

Italy has a system based on taxation of sets. It still came up with Colpo Grosso. (That’s Tutti Frutti to those of you stationed on the wrong side of the Alps.)

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TK-421 Aug 27, 2016 • 2:06:58am

Didn’t Murdoch buy NG?

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 2:07:52am

re: #200 TK-421

Didn’t Murdoch buy NG?

Yup. More Sturgis, less sturgeon.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 2:27:35am

Off to bed here. G’night, Lizards.

(Or good morning, whichever you’d prefer.)

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 4:24:44am

businessinsider.com

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 4:29:05am

re: #2 Interesting Times

Was glad to see this tweet because Dr.Nick was the first idea.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 4:30:46am

More about the sleazy snake-oil “doctor”:

Windows XP is insecure — insecure enough that for doctors that need to send charts or receive charts from a hospital are prevented from using it, and have been for about 6 years or more. The reason is simple: newer RSA key exchanges don’t work on Windows XP.

dailykos.com

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 4:36:37am

nydailynews.com

The doctor who gave Donald Trump an outrageously enthusiastic health assessment was sued for allowing a colonoscopy patient to die in 2000.

Court papers filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court charged that Dr. Harold Bornstein was performing the procedure on 57-year-old Vincent Pollifrone when the patient was “improperly medicated” and died of a drug overdose that could have been prevented.

Sadly, wrong patient.///

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 4:41:12am

Here is a reminder: I don’t care about any of you. None.

— ˗ˏˋChankobunˎˊ˗ (@Chankobun) August 26, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 27, 2016 • 4:43:07am

re: #203 Nyet

The Republicans created two monsters: the politically active Religious Right and right wing media examined in the BI article you linked to. At first, it seemed as if the RR was going to take over the party and swing it toward a theocratic platform. Now I’m not so convinced that will happen — at least this year. The “hard right,” as the BI writer calls it, is now calling the shots. Instead of a religiously fanatical GOP candidate (Cruz, for example), we now have an openly racist GOP candidate (Trump). Either way, any chance of the party becoming more moderate (and rational) is lost for this election cycle, and perhaps several more.

By tolerating and then encouraging the more extreme elements among the Republicans/Conservatives, the Republican Party has essentially committed political suicide.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 27, 2016 • 4:58:08am

What Paul LePage just did was flagrantly criminal, an incitement for his followers to conduct a murderous racial pogrom.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

Any reasonable person would think that a sitting Governor saying blacks & hispanics are “enemies” needing to be shot is a call to kill them.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

∴ LePage’s speech meets both tests established under Brandenburg: 1. a call for imminent unlawful action & 2. a high chance it will occur.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 27, 2016

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lawhawk Aug 27, 2016 • 4:59:10am

re: #206 Nyet

Hello Doctor Nick! Hello Every-body!

Still doesn’t quite explain why Trump’s primary doc is a gastroenterologist who’s credentials are sketchy, took all of five minutes to write the letter in a limo (sounds more like he signed something Trump stuck in front of him), and acts like someone SNL would come up with and reject because that kind of character is just too out there.

Every time you take the slightest bit of scrutiny and apply it to Trump and the people that surround him, you find major issues. Character and judgment flaws - bigotry, anti-Semitism, misogyny, encouraging white supremacists, etc.

This speaks not only poorly about those people directly - like Bannon, but how Trump and his “advisers” are vetting the people they’re getting to work for him.

After all, this is a campaign that decided that it’s a good idea to hire Bill Stepien, who was fired by Gov. Christie over the Bridgegate scandal. And they hired Manafort (and later sent him packing and replaced him with Bannon).

It’s a mess, and yet the media is trying to both sides their way out of this - claiming that Clinton’s speech identifying all the bigotry emanating from Trump and his surrogates is equal to Trump replying - I know you are but what am I.

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lawhawk Aug 27, 2016 • 5:00:01am

It is indisputable that @realDonaldTrump fails on all accounts:
His vetting of subordinates is awful, with racists and bigots galore

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 27, 2016

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 5:03:02am

re: #210 lawhawk

A conman racist would tend to be surrounded by cons and racists, yes.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 5:05:32am

This doctor is just another confirmation of my pet ontological theory that we’re all stuck in a cheap 1980s B-movie.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 5:07:28am

Next thing we’re invaded by furry critters with big teeth or a live cannibal yogurt.

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 5:30:42am

re: #188 klys (maker of Silmarils)

According to my FitBit, if I am in bed “asleep” for 8 hours, I am actually sleeping for 4-5.5 hours.

There’s a history of apnea in the family, so I figure I should probably go get tested, but I really hate the idea of having to wear the sleep mask all the time. So I haven’t yet.

The masks have gotten a lot lighter and more comfortable, so you really should. My apnea was so bad they told me I could’ve died in my sleep.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 27, 2016 • 5:42:29am

LOLOL

Douche allergies are no joke, y’all. #LSSC pic.twitter.com/CBGwNOAfKg

— The Late Show (@colbertlateshow) August 27, 2016

Suck a dick? https://t.co/yA7DPvnRC4

— Martin Shkreli (@MartinShkreli) August 27, 2016

Depends, how much are you marking them up? https://t.co/tWMc3aRvVy

— Stephen Colbert (@StephenAtHome) August 27, 2016

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jeffreyw Aug 27, 2016 • 5:45:12am

Imgur

Good morning!

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Jayleia Aug 27, 2016 • 5:59:12am

re: #214 Nyet

Next thing we’re invaded by furry critters with big teeth or a live cannibal yogurt.

Cannibal yogurt? Wouldn’t it eat mostly other dairy products then?

(Did The 80s actually make a movie like that?)

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 6:07:34am

re: #218 Jayleia

Cannibal yogurt? Wouldn’t it eat mostly other dairy products then?

(Did The 80s actually make a movie like that?)

More or less.

The Stuff (Trailer)

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Anymouse Aug 27, 2016 • 6:08:39am

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

Ipsos released polls of a lot of states tonight, with some very strange results. Trump +3 in Wisconsin? Clinton +4 in Nebraska?

NE-2 is pretty much a foregone conclusion for Clinton (Omaha). NE-1 is shifting away from Trump, though he still has an edge there (Lincoln).

My district NE-3 (everything rural) is still Nate Silver’s most likely to vote for Trump. That said, if Mrs. Clinton can pile up a big enough lead in the other two districts, she can overcome the number of voters in NE-3 and take four of our five electoral votes.

I have been watching this trend for some time (originally, this area was all-in for Dr. Carson). I am a realist that Nebraska would be a hard nut to crack for Mrs. Clinton, but more and more its looking possible, and that would force the GOP to spend money here defending a state they normally wouldn’t have to.

My county Democratic party finally wants me! They sent me a card for a meeting on August 30.

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Mattand Aug 27, 2016 • 6:09:43am

Hey, folks:

Got a nice, non-political, Trump-and-Nazi free post for everyone. Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.) I’ve been doing some research on things to do/areas to avoid while there (not a lot of love for the Tenderloin out there). Anybody got any protips they can spare/share?

Fun fact: I forget who, but I believe I share a b-day with another Lizard.

As always: thanks for the help; thanks for keeping me sane; and never, ever eat raw wombat pirogies.

Also: apologies in advance if I don’t reply/upvote right away. Crazy schedule today.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 6:16:29am

re: #219 Nyet

It was actually a pretty good bad movie.

Best Scenes from “The Stuff” (1985)

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 6:20:01am

re: #221 Mattand

Fun fact: I forget who, but I believe I share a b-day with another Lizard.

I do too ;)
And the chances of that are actually great.

mathforum.org

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Romantic Heretic Aug 27, 2016 • 6:25:37am

re: #3 TedStriker

While I feel sorry for their daughters, who were and are caught in the middle of something they have no control over, I’m having a hell of a time feeling one lick of pity for the ex-wife, because, long before the point in their marriage when he choked her and she decided to get a divorce, you know that she had to know how bigoted, racist, and, otherwise, how big of a fucking human dumpster fire Bannon is.

There’s just no fucking way she didn’t.

But once having been married to a human dumpster fire, I can testify to the depth of human delusion when it comes to their partners.

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Anymouse Aug 27, 2016 • 6:26:24am

Today is my father’s birthday.

Had he survived the Vietnam War, he would be 78 years old.

springfield50.org

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BlueSpotinAL Aug 27, 2016 • 6:43:14am

re: #221 Mattand

Hey, folks:

Got a nice, non-political, Trump-and-Nazi free post for everyone. Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.) I’ve been doing some research on things to do/areas to avoid while there (not a lot of love for the Tenderloin out there). Anybody got any protips they can spare/share?

Fun fact: I forget who, but I believe I share a b-day with another Lizard.

As always: thanks for the help; thanks for keeping me sane; and never, ever eat raw wombat pirogies.

Also: apologies in advance if I don’t reply/upvote right away. Crazy schedule today.

If a beer connoisseur, Mikkeller bar.

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Anymouse Aug 27, 2016 • 6:44:40am

Off to bed: Need a nap before I have to leave for the Panhandle Pride Picnic in Scottsbluff.

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Skip Intro Aug 27, 2016 • 6:52:14am

So I read both of my daily papers this morning looking for a story on Trump’s crazy doctor and his campaign CEO.

Found nada, but there was a nice story about how Breitbart is now a major player in the GOP. A warm and fuzzy story.

So yet another day starts with a big Fuck the Media.

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Barefoot Grin Aug 27, 2016 • 6:54:40am

re: #203 Nyet

businessinsider.com

Interesting. Of course, the comments fill up with posters determined to confirm every charge made against followers of Drudge, Breitbart, and Limbaugh.

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 6:59:24am

re: #220 Anymouse

I am a realist that Nebraska would be a hard nut to crack for Mrs. Clinton, but more and more its looking possible, and that would force the GOP to spend money here defending a state they normally wouldn’t have to.

How much of that is the Buffett Effect?

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 7:04:05am

re: #221 Mattand

Hey, folks:

Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.) I’ve been doing some research on things to do/areas to avoid while there (not a lot of love for the Tenderloin out there). Anybody got any protips they can spare/share?

FOOD!!

Seriously, SF is all about the food. Food you can’t find anywhere else. Nobody else’s sourdough can equal SF sourdough. Nobody else’s cioppino compares to SF cioppino. The best duck. And Ghirardelli does some fresh/hot/on-site things that even better than the commercial products they sell everywhere.

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ObserverArt Aug 27, 2016 • 7:08:27am

re: #210 lawhawk

Hello Doctor Nick! Hello Every-body!

Still doesn’t quite explain why Trump’s primary doc is a gastroenterologist who’s credentials are sketchy, took all of five minutes to write the letter in a limo (sounds more like he signed something Trump stuck in front of him), and acts like someone SNL would come up with and reject because that kind of character is just too out there.

Every time you take the slightest bit of scrutiny and apply it to Trump and the people that surround him, you find major issues. Character and judgment flaws - bigotry, anti-Semitism, misogyny, encouraging white supremacists, etc.

This speaks not only poorly about those people directly - like Bannon, but how Trump and his “advisers” are vetting the people they’re getting to work for him.

After all, this is a campaign that decided that it’s a good idea to hire Bill Stepien, who was fired by Gov. Christie over the Bridgegate scandal. And they hired Manafort (and later sent him packing and replaced him with Bannon).

It’s a mess, and yet the media is trying to both sides their way out of this - claiming that Clinton’s speech identifying all the bigotry emanating from Trump and his surrogates is equal to Trump replying - I know you are but what am I.

Your comments point out two things.

1. We will need to rewrite the rules of what constitutes an actual clown show. Clowns can no longer match up to what Trump has surrounded himself with.

2. TV media is dead. We knew it was coming but this week is proof that it is dead. Trying to magic balance fairy this thing shows they don’t care about anyone but the advertisers checks. Are there any actual humans involved anymore?

Yeesh. What a mess.

I’m trying to think of all the creative artists that have written books from the likes of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Anthony Burgess and Franz Kafka, to movie makers like Terry Gilliam, Stanley Kubrick and others that tried to explain the dark side of human activities and what they would have to say about the world in 2016.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 7:11:43am

Let’s vote Jill Stein, then when Trump wins we can all fall back on our white privlege and say both sides do it https://t.co/7ipqhjgIaI

— Jesse LaGreca (@JesseLaGreca) August 26, 2016

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451_Montag Aug 27, 2016 • 7:14:53am

Trumps Razor: Whatever interpretation of something he or his campaign does is the most vile is probably the correct one.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 7:16:59am

re: #233 Nyet

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Ah pretty much. I like how we’re supposed to just trust the Green Party because they say so.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 7:17:18am

re: #232 ObserverArt

I’m trying to think of all the creative artists that have written books from the likes of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Anthony Burgess and Franz Kafka, to movie makers like Terry Gilliam, Stanley Kubrick and others that tried to explain the dark side of human activities and what they would have to say about the world in 2016.

On the plus side, we haven’t reached the level of The Hills Have Eyes (the 1977 original by Wes Craven).

So…….there’s that.

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:17:29am

Favorite headline of the morning:

Over at RawStory about HRC’s speech.

“The individual who openly stole the Democratic Party nomination from Bernie Sanders gave a press conference in Reno, Nevada, where she attacked the resistance to her takeover of this country by foreign banks, the Saudi Arabian government, the communist Chinese and others,” Jones said….

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 7:19:08am

re: #237 Ming5000

Favorite headline of the morning:

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Over at RawStory about HRC’s speech.

I’m waiting for him to go totally bonkers on the air and admit that he’s just a shady con man who doesn’t actually give a fuck what happens just as long as he gets his money from the gullible fools who make his existence a reality.

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:23:12am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Someone posted Jimmy Kimmel’s “Pickle Can” response to Alex Jones. Heelarious. Jones is pretty close to blowing a brain vein.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 7:24:10am

re: #237 Ming5000

takeover of this country by foreign banks, the Saudi Arabian government, the communist Chinese and others

Takeover by Putin is fine tho.

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FormerDirtDart Aug 27, 2016 • 7:24:49am

re: #222 Nyet

It was actually a pretty good bad movie.

The Stuff was an awesomely good bad movie. I had an Army roommate he gave me crap about that movie for years.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 7:25:32am

You know for all the talk I hear about how liberals are easily outraged, I see it so much more from conservatives who look for every little thing Obama or Clinton do or don’t do to bitch about. Been having this conversation with one of my brothers since a mutual friend of ours is one of those types. The guy has a lot more income than my brother and yet he’s the one repeatedly bitching about his taxes going ot help the less well off. Our Dad has a friend like that too. We just shrug. Was explaining to my folks today about the alt-right. They were with her regardless but the alt-right stuff bothers them too.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 7:26:35am

re: #239 Ming5000

Someone posted Jimmy Kimmel’s “Pickle Can” response to Alex Jones. Heelarious. Jones is pretty close to blowing a brain vein.

Was there a video? I saw Jimmy’s written response which I got a chuckle out of. I like Jimmy. He’s not my favorite of the Late Night guys but he’s good. I’ve been a fan since eh was Ben Stein’s sidekick on Win Ben Stein’s money and I enjoyed the Man Show too.

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nines09 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:27:42am

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:28:12am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

Here it is! [edit: oh, this is the response that you said you saw]

Jimmy Kimmel Reveals the Truth Behind Hillary Clinton’s #PickleGate

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Alyosha Aug 27, 2016 • 7:29:22am

re: #232 ObserverArt

Your comments point out two things.

1. We will need to rewrite the rules of what constitutes an actual clown show. Clowns can no longer match up to what Trump has surrounded himself with.

2. TV media is dead. We knew it was coming but this week is proof that it is dead. Trying to magic balance fairy this thing shows they don’t care about anyone but the advertisers checks. Are there any actual humans involved anymore?

Yeesh. What a mess.

I’m trying to think of all the creative artists that have written books from the likes of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Anthony Burgess and Franz Kafka, to movie makers like Terry Gilliam, Stanley Kubrick and others that tried to explain the dark side of human activities and what they would have to say about the world in 2016.

Orwell- Post-Soviet Russia is still dangerous and holy shit, how did the Republican Party come to this?!
Huxley- Where the soma at?
Burgess- The violent freaks need better costumers.
Kafka- Nice nonsense, there, but do you have to be so loud?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 7:34:07am

re: #246 Alyosha

Orwell- Post-Soviet Russia is still dangerous and holy shit, how did the Republican Party come to this?!
Huxley- Where the soma at?
Burgess- The violent freaks need better costumers.
Kafka- Nice nonsense, there, but do you have to be so loud?

Soma—or at least haoma in Avestan—was probably ephedrine, so it’s been taken off the market. Even pseudoephedrine isn’t in Sudafed any more….

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 7:35:47am

re: #245 Ming5000

Here it is!

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Thanks. Got a good laugh out of that.

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lawhawk Aug 27, 2016 • 7:40:25am

re: #237 Ming5000

This, even as Trump’s new campaign manager had been living/renting space from a former Egyptian govt official without disclosing the relationship and fawned over him whenever Breitbart reported about the guy.

Bannon also co-owns a condominium in Los Angeles and is known to stay at the so-called “Breitbart embassy”, a luxurious $2.4m townhouse beside the supreme court in Washington DC, where his website’s staff work from basement offices. A Bloomberg profile of Bannon published last October, with which he cooperated, stated that Bannon “occupies” the townhouse and described it as being “his”.

But according to records at the DC office of tax and revenue, the Breitbart house is actually owned by Mostafa El-Gindy, an Egyptian businessman and former member of parliament. Gindy has received favorable coverage from Breitbart News, which styles him as a “senior statesman”, without an accompanying disclosure that he is the website’s landlord.

Pay to play.

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lawhawk Aug 27, 2016 • 7:42:20am

re: #247 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Heinlein: Told you that the idea of service guaranteeing citizenship is an idea worth considering. Trump wouldn’t get past the service part before being able to run for office.

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:44:33am

re: #249 lawhawk

This, even as Trump’s new campaign manager had been living/renting space from a former Egyptian govt official without disclosing the relationship and fawned over him whenever Breitbart reported about the guy.

Pay to play.

I am continually boggled at the amount of loot the RWNoiseMachine generates…..
so many rubes, so few outrages….

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Eventual Carrion Aug 27, 2016 • 7:52:20am

re: #193 Targetpractice

“Sleep”? What is this “sleep” madness?

A little slice of death

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 7:56:55am

From Dec 2015…. Seems relevant now.

Alt Right is feeling empowered!

A Cuckservative Discovers the Alt Right

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harlequinade Aug 27, 2016 • 7:58:12am

re: #221 Mattand

I was about to say “Smitten!! The ice-cream place that quick freezes in nitrogen” then saw October. But it’s SF, you should be ok.

TCHO does amazing chocolate. Their website says they’re in the Westfield Center. The Westfield website says “Who?”

My favourite bar (it’s a bit divey, and less busy during the week) is on Geary and Leavenworth. Go try their Basil Gimlet.

If you have time, try and visit the Pirate Supply Store on Valencia and support a great teaching initiative.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 7:58:37am

Finally.

ELDERS REACT TO DIE ANTWOORD

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 7:59:05am

re: #246 Alyosha

Orwell- Post-Soviet Russia is still dangerous and holy shit, how did the Republican Party come to this?!
Huxley- Where the soma at?
Burgess- The violent freaks need better costumers.
Kafka- Nice nonsense, there, but do you have to be so loud?

Dickens — anyone who can’t afford an epi-pen, wouldn’t be much use in a workhouse anyway. Let ‘em die.

Upton Sinclair — where’s the torches and pitchforks? And maybe a guillotene next to the bull statue.

Jack London — this world is only for the strongest and most resilient. The rest of you are buzzard chow. As it should be.

Jane Austen — Hillary should smile more, and modulate her voice. She would also be well-advised to employ more subtlety in her criticisms.

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Ming5000 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:00:47am

re: #255 Nyet

haha… “Is this an advertisement for dental work?”

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:01:54am

Donald Trump is repugnant.

Dwayne Wade’s cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2016

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Eventual Carrion Aug 27, 2016 • 8:01:55am

re: #210 lawhawk

Hello Doctor Nick! Hello Every-body!

Still doesn’t quite explain why Trump’s primary doc is a gastroenterologist who’s credentials are sketchy, took all of five minutes to write the letter in a limo (sounds more like he signed something Trump stuck in front of him), and acts like someone SNL would come up with and reject because that kind of character is just too out there.

[snip]

Trump is such a huge asshole that a gastroenterologist is just like a general practitioner to normal people.

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Barefoot Grin Aug 27, 2016 • 8:04:03am

re: #258 Jenner7

Donald Trump is repugnant.

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Holy shit. I saw this headline this morning and wondered how long it would take Trump to politicize it.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 8:04:09am

re: #257 Ming5000

Too bad they didn’t include the best stuff. “Pitbull” sucked.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:05:50am

re: #258 Jenner7

Donald Trump is repugnant.

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Fucking sick son of a bitch.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 27, 2016 • 8:05:54am

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

LOLOL

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I think that dumbass little prick is messing with the wrong person. He will get chewed up and spit out on the street.

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Timothy Watson Aug 27, 2016 • 8:07:05am

re: #213 Nyet

This doctor is just another confirmation of my pet ontological theory that we’re all stuck in a cheap 1980s B-movie.

Or ’90s:

(Crazy scientist in the original Independence Day.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 27, 2016 • 8:08:17am

re: #264 Timothy Watson

Or ’90s:

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(Crazy scientist in the original Independence Day.)

Who reappears in the Independence Day sequel, whatever it’s called. I forgot already.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:08:41am

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Who reappears in the Independence Day sequel, whatever it’s called. I forgot already.

Constitution Day? //

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Barefoot Grin Aug 27, 2016 • 8:09:20am

I wonder if Trump knows anything about housing discrimination and the growth of certain dangerous neighborhoods where mobility is a dream for many….

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:11:30am

CALLER: I’d like to know how you handle your stress.

TRUMP: I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.

—This is from a 2004 interview with Larry King

cnn.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 27, 2016 • 8:12:17am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Constitution Day? //

Seriously, I saw it, and it made no impression on me. An entirely forgettable movie. Probably had to do with it being a rehash of the original, and its insisting on the latest Hollywood dramatic gimmick of turning major cities into rubble.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Aug 27, 2016 • 8:13:51am

re: #268 Jenner7

CALLER: I’d like to know how you handle your stress.

TRUMP: I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.

—This is from a 2004 interview with Larry King

cnn.com

Compassion is weakness. I just learned that by watching Downfall, finally.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:14:12am

re: #268 Jenner7

CALLER: I’d like to know how you handle your stress.

TRUMP: I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.

—This is from a 2004 interview with Larry King

cnn.com

Billy West needs to read this.

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ObserverArt Aug 27, 2016 • 8:17:44am

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

I wonder if Trump knows anything about housing discrimination the growth of certain dangerous neighborhoods where mobility is a dream for many….

Because people just like him and his father helped create some of these problems, it stands that a guy like Trump can turn it all around right?

Just like he admits having given money to candidates, or he buys cheap goods from China and peddles them as Trump class. He knows the game so he can fix the game.

I think he even has some bridges to sell…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 8:20:35am

re: #269 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seriously, I saw it, and it made no impression on me. An entirely forgettable movie. Probably had to do with it being a rehash of the original, and its insisting on the latest Hollywood dramatic gimmick of turning major cities into rubble.

How do they explain Brent Spiner still being alive?

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:22:23am

re: #273 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How do they explain Brent Spiner still being alive?

I haven’t seen it but my understanding is that the character was in a coma.

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calochortus Aug 27, 2016 • 8:23:58am

re: #268 Jenner7

CALLER: I’d like to know how you handle your stress.

TRUMP: I try and tell myself it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. If you tell yourself it doesn’t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn’t matter. That’s how I handle stress.

—This is from a 2004 interview with Larry King

cnn.com

I’m inclined to give Trump a pass on this one-it reads really poorly, but it was an off the cuff answer to a phoned in question and we’re not getting any vocal inflections in the print version. It is quite possible he meant that compared to 400,000 people dying, whatever is stressing him is minor.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 8:24:01am

OK, so just got done watching The Stuff on YouTube. Not bad at all; for a fairly low-budget flick, it was good.

Here’s something of a classic: The Monolith Monsters. Saw this one when I was a little kid, and it spooked me. I don’t know why, but it did. Enjoy.

The Monolith Monsters - 1957 *Read Description*

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Belafon Aug 27, 2016 • 8:24:16am

re: #269 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seriously, I saw it, and it made no impression on me. An entirely forgettable movie. Probably had to do with it being a rehash of the original, and its insisting on the latest Hollywood dramatic gimmick of turning major cities into rubble.

The original invented turning all major cities into rubble. The sequel is called Insurgence.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:25:28am

Just met someone that gave me hope for Utah politics. He was picking up some stuff we were giving away and noticed my “BLM” sign with Hillary stickers. He said “that’s not a sign you see every day here in Utah”. He cannot stand Trump, but I don’t think he liked Hillary either. He said he wished Bernie won. I told him what Trump said this morning about Dwayne Wade’s cousin and he couldn’t believe it. I’m glad we have people here who really know the consequences of a Trump Presidency.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:25:30am

re: #275 calochortus

I’m inclined to give Trump a pass on this one-it reads really poorly, but it was an off the cuff answer to a phoned in question and we’re not getting any vocal inflections in the print version. It is quite possible he meant that compared to 400,000 people dying, whatever is stressing him is minor.

Could be right there. Turmp was fairly normal in 2004 too.

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calochortus Aug 27, 2016 • 8:29:00am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Could be right there. Turmp was fairly normal in 2004 too.

Heaven knows he’s said enough unambiguously horrible things we don’t have to look for more.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 8:29:22am

re: #252 Eventual Carrion

A little slice of death

Not to be confused with “The Little Death”.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:29:53am

re: #280 calochortus

Heaven knows he’s said enough unambiguously horrible things we don’t have to look for more.

Indeed. Hell today already with the quote about DWade’s cousin.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:31:30am

The more I think about it, the more I think looking for work triggers my anxiety. I see a lead that looks promising only to see that I don’t qualify and the cycle continues.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 8:31:45am

re: #256 sagehen

Dickens — anyone who can’t afford an epi-pen, wouldn’t be much use in a workhouse anyway. Let ‘em die.

Upton Sinclair — where’s the torches and pitchforks? And maybe a guillotene next to the bull statue.

Jack London — this world is only for the strongest and most resilient. The rest of you are buzzard chow. As it should be.

Jane Austen — Hillary should smile more, and modulate her voice. She would also be well-advised to employ more subtlety in her criticisms.

Hemingway—There was a fool.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 27, 2016 • 8:32:28am

Óculos Trump

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:36:38am

“@GoldJazz559: #BlackMenForBernie Leader: #Hillary2016 ‘No Regard For Black Race’ https://t.co/m8952Ly3Jb via @dailycaller #BlacksForTrump

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2016

KellyAnne, take that fucking phone away from him right now!

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 8:36:47am

re: #285 GlutenFreeJesus

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LOL great riff on They Live.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 8:37:21am

re: #285 GlutenFreeJesus

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So…the opposite of the Eyes of the Overworld?

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:38:31am

re: #286 Jenner7

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KellyAnne, take that fucking phone away from him right now!

I see that Clinton’s speech really touched a nerve with him.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:41:47am

I really hope Wade or members of his family tell Trump to fuck off in the loudest terms. What a fucking ghoul he is.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:42:57am

The chance Clinton wins the White House? Now 90%, a new high. https://t.co/Zs1wPFF6Ds pic.twitter.com/Ws6MfXiN4i

— The Upshot (@UpshotNYT) August 27, 2016

Let’s get it to 100%.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:44:19am

re: #291 Jenner7

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Let’s get it to 100%.

Good to see. Hopefully September and October will be as good as August was.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 8:45:22am

re: #275 calochortus

I’m inclined to give Trump a pass on this one-it reads really poorly, but it was an off the cuff answer to a phoned in question and we’re not getting any vocal inflections in the print version. It is quite possible he meant that compared to 400,000 people dying, whatever is stressing him is minor.

Possibly? I don’t think it can be interpreted any other way.

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Bill and Opus for 2016! Aug 27, 2016 • 8:46:02am

Damn if FiveThirtyEight isn’t engaging in clickbait headlines:

Gary Johnson Isn’t Fading

Of course, the subheading right after you click through has the following:
“Or rising”

The entire article is about the Libertarian Party candidate’s campaign essentially going nowhere - just like every other third party campaign outside of Ross Perot in 1992.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 8:47:44am

Ooh, speaking of Gary Johnson, I heard a radio ad from him this morning. It was basically: Republicans and Democrats are the same, I will be real change. :::barf:::

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:49:12am

re: #294 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Damn if FiveThirtyEight isn’t engaging in clickbait headlines:

Gary Johnson Isn’t Fading

Of course, the subheading right after you click through has the following:
“Or rising”

The entire article is about the Libertarian Party candidate’s campaign essentially going nowhere - just like every other third party campaign outside of Ross Perot in 1992.

Johnson’s success won’t be measured by what happens in November but what happens in future elections. Honestly, the Libertarians showed me how short sighted they are when they couldn’t bother to nominate a candidate for Lt Governor and AG here in Virginia in 2013, if you want to be taken seriously as a legitimate party, run candidates for all offices. Granted the LP is better than the Greens when it comes to this but still. Granted there’s also a lot I dislike about the LP especially their naivete about civil rights and enforcement there of and their economic views and their general “I know what’s best for you” attitude.

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Timothy Watson Aug 27, 2016 • 8:49:23am

re: #295 Jenner7

Ooh, speaking of Gary Johnson, I heard a radio ad from him this morning. It was basically: Republicans and Democrats are the same, I will be real change. :::barf:::

“Why vote for better government when you can have no government?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 8:49:40am

re: #294 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Damn if FiveThirtyEight isn’t engaging in clickbait headlines:

Gary Johnson Isn’t Fading

Of course, the subheading right after you click through has the following:
“Or rising”

The entire article is about the Libertarian Party candidate’s campaign essentially going nowhere - just like every other third party campaign outside of Ross Perot in 1992.

That sudden jerk yesterday putting Trump above a 20% chance must have been due to that crazy Ipsos poll. I thought it was a given that online polls were worthless. Why is he using online polls at all? Is he trying to give me a heart attack?

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:50:06am

re: #295 Jenner7

Ooh, speaking of Gary Johnson, I heard a radio ad from him this morning. It was basically: Republicans and Democrats are the same, I will be real change. :::barf:::

Yeah I’m not surprised but that’s what I expect a third party candidate to do honestly. If he implies that Clinton or Trump may be better than the other, he’s kind of shooting himself in the foot. That said, I’m not a fan.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 8:52:53am

re: #293 Nyet

Possibly? I don’t think it can be interpreted any other way.

Unless it’s a canned excuse for nihilism and absurd self-absorption.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 27, 2016 • 8:54:36am

re: #203 Nyet

businessinsider.com

The article seemed to always be wondering why the alt-right backed Trump.

The reason is simple. By spouting the most racist, misogynist talking points of the alt-right Trump has made it very clear he is, at some point, going to give them permission to act upon their paranoid, fascist fantasies. No one else, not even Cruz, gave off that vibe.

Trump’s “I’ll only lose if the election is rigged” signal was the clearest indication yet that soon permission will be given and Libturds will die! Die! Die! Die!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 8:55:47am

Next time, @realDonaldTrump, you congratulate yourself after a murder - you psychopath - spell the name right #Pig pic.twitter.com/tHvXoanbxN

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) August 27, 2016

The name is spelled “Dwyane”.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 8:57:02am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

Unless it’s a canned excuse for nihilism and absurd self-absorption.

Doesn’t make sense in that context.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 8:57:13am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The name is spelled “Dwyane”.

I actually didn’t know that but I’m not trying to exploit Dwyane’s family tragedy for votes either.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 8:58:17am

re: #291 Jenner7

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Let’s get it to 100%.

From Sam Wang:

This is a snapshot of current polls, and addresses the hypothetical question of who would win an election held today. Probability distribution of all possible outcomes calculated from current state polls. The central dark blue bars represent the 95% confidence interval (including pollster-to-pollster “house effects” as part of the variation). The tails are plotted in green.

At nearly all times, this snapshot shows a very likely win for one candidate or the other. The Princeton Election Consortium does not report this probability, which is usually greater than 99%. Instead, the banner reports an estimated probability of a win on Election Day, in November. That quantity includes the possibility of movement between the time the polls were taken and Election Day.

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 8:58:24am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

OK, so just got done watching The Stuff on YouTube. Not bad at all; for a fairly low-budget flick, it was good.

Here’s something of a classic: The Monolith Monsters. Saw this one when I was a little kid, and it spooked me. I don’t know why, but it did. Enjoy.

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I remember watching that one as a kid too, but even then I thought that the ending was so bogus when they blew up the dam that towered over the town and the town didn’t get flooded.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:01:38am

re: #306 stpaulbear

I remember watching that one as a kid too, but even then I thought that the ending was so bogus when they blew up the dam that towered over the town and the town didn’t get flooded.

At least they didn’t take two hours of murder and mayhem till somebody finally says: “Hey, I’ve got an idea—let’s set ‘em on fire!”

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:02:32am

re: #305 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From Sam Wang:

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I trust Sam even more than Nate honestly at this point. I trust Nate too don’t get me wrong but Sam’s purely academic. Honestly, I won’t claim to have the knowledge of polls and trends that either man has but what I see is this- Clinton is competitive in a lot of Republican states and Trump is not doing anything close to that in a lot of Democratic states. Frankly, I think any Republican candidate had a disadvantage. Even when Bush won in 2000 and 2004(not going to start on an argument about those elections and the shadiness that did happen in 2000 especially) but anyhow, even with all that, Bush still won each by only one state. And Bush was a much more competent campaigner than Trump is and Gore/Kerry pale in how HRC is as a campaigner. What’s important to happen is that the people who vote for HRC this fall return in 2018 and the other off year elections so they can give HRC a strong legislature behind her and elect Dem governors and legislatures. Those elections might not be sexy but they will prevent the McGrory’s of the world form HR2’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:02:33am

Clinton has left her 1st intelligence briefing. She was inside the HQ for 2 hours & 17 min. Per aide, she brought no aides in to the meeting

— Liz Kreutz (@ABCLiz) August 27, 2016

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 9:03:12am

re: #303 Nyet

Doesn’t make sense in that context.

“This urchin will die in war if it lives, so why should I be concerned to give it a crust.”

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:03:24am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She knows her stuff. I preferred Clinton over Sanders for her knowledge and intellectual curiosity alone.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:03:44am

re: #305 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Also:

Clinton Nov. win probability: random drift 92%, Bayesian 95%

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 27, 2016 • 9:05:44am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

See?? Clinton has aides!

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:07:47am

re: #312 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Linky?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:08:18am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

I trust Sam even more than Nate honestly at this point. I trust Nate too don’t get me wrong but Sam’s purely academic. Honestly, I won’t claim to have the knowledge of polls and trends that either man has but what I see is this- Clinton is competitive in a lot of Republican states and Trump is not doing anything close to that in a lot of Democratic states. Frankly, I think any Republican candidate had a disadvantage. Even when Bush won in 2000 and 2004(not going to start on an argument about those elections and the shadiness that did happen in 2000 especially) but anyhow, even with all that, Bush still won each by only one state. And Bush was a much more competent campaigner than Trump is and Gore/Kerry pale in how HRC is as a campaigner. What’s important to happen is that the people who vote for HRC this fall return in 2018 and the other off year elections so they can give HRC a strong legislature behind her and elect Dem governors and legislatures. Those elections might not be sexy but they will prevent the McGrory’s of the world form HR2’s.

I console myself by saying that no Democrat is going to lose the Kerry map, especially against a candidate like Trump. Problem is, in 2004, Ohio would have put Kerry over the top, but that’s not true since the 2010 reapportionment. But Ohio plus New Hampshire would do the job, OR Virginia plus Nevada…well, the possibilities are legion. For Trump, not so much.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:09:16am

re: #314 Nyet

Linky?

Same as before

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 9:10:10am

So, now here’s a wackadoodle classic…..The Giant Claw, and whooboy, the giant monster is a doozy. Special effects by Billy, age nine.

The Giant Claw 1957 Full length MOVIE | Best B movies

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:10:31am

re: #315 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I console myself by saying that no Democrat is going to lose the Kerry map, especially against a candidate like Trump. Problem is, in 2004, Ohio would have put Kerry over the top, but that’s not true since the 2010 reapportionment. But Ohio plus New Hampshire would do the job, OR Virginia plus Nevada…well, the possibilities are legion. For Trump, not so much.

What has helped the Dems in places like Virginia and alot of people don’t realize this is a growing Hispanic and Asian population. When I was a kid in the early 90’s, the state wasn’t as diverse as it is now. And that’s what Allen played to when he called that kid a “Macaca” in 2006 and when Palin who probably had never stepped foot in the Commonwealth before McCain made her his running mate talked about how glad she was to be in the “Real Virginia.”

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:10:44am

re: #316 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ah, the stats on the top.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:13:54am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

1957… so I guess there is no death by bird poop scene…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:15:18am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

So, now here’s a wackadoodle classic…..The Giant Claw, and whooboy, the giant monster is a doozy. Special effects by Billy, age nine.

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Man, I thought I’d seen all of those kinds of movies—but that’s a new one!

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 9:15:51am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

So, now here’s a wackadoodle classic…..The Giant Claw, and whooboy, the giant monster is a doozy. Special effects by Billy, age nine.

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Heh. Introduction to “Le Loup-garou”.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 9:16:32am

re: #320 Nyet

1957… so I guess there is no death by bird poop scene…

Worse. Death by the goofiest looking kaiju in history.

*facepalm*

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 9:17:15am

This 90 yr old stood up, Obama told him he didn’t have to stand. He said, “No Sir, you’re the President.” pic.twitter.com/2W1b9zAMKK

— Military HD (@MilitaryHD) August 27, 2016

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 27, 2016 • 9:18:19am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

Looks like some kind of Pokemon acid trip.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 9:18:37am

re: #324 Jenner7

THERE HE GOES, BOWING AGAIN11!1

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:18:54am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

*shrug*

Tastes like chicken.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:19:25am

I managed to miss this tweet by David Duke earlier this week:

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:20:49am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

I managed to miss this tweet by David Duke earlier this week:

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Did you think just a year ago that you would write something like this?

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:22:18am

@DrDavidDuke #TrumpTrain all aboard pic.twitter.com/2ubbhn6bQa

— Jake’s Jokes™ (@AdjectiveNouns) August 26, 2016

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:24:54am

re: #324 Jenner7

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Something my former USMC friend who claims that Obama disrespects veterans and the military should see but won’t care since he hates Obama and actually prefers Mr. I think my dating experiences are like fighting the Vietcong.

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Jayleia Aug 27, 2016 • 9:25:12am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fuckit. Imma going to cuteoverload.com now

Either that, or vodka.

EDIT: AWW… cuteoverload.com is still there, just not updating. :-(

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:25:29am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

I managed to miss this tweet by David Duke earlier this week:

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I’m going to enjoy seeing Dave squirm like a pig when we elect our first Jewish president.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 9:26:55am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

I’m going to enjoy seeing Dave squirm like a pig when we elect our first Jewish president.

And Sen. Al Franken makes that plausible.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:27:18am

Voyage To The Planet Of Prehistoric Women (1968) - Full Movie

The film is an adapted version of Curtis Harrington’s Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet, which itself is the English dubbed version of the 1962 Soviet film “Planeta Bur” (Planet of Storms) by Pavel Klushantsev.

Interviewed about the film, Director Peter Bogdanovich said, “It was a Russian science-fiction film that Roger [Corman] had called Storm Clouds Of Venus that he had dubbed into English. And he came to me and said, ‘Would you shoot some footage with some women? AIP won’t buy it unless we stick some women in it.’ So I figured out a way to work some women in it and shot for five days, and we cut it in. I narrated it, because nobody could make heads or tails of it. Roger wouldn’t let me add any sound. It was just a little cheap thing we did, and people think I directed it when I really only directed 10 minutes of it.”

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:27:28am

re: #334 Decatur Deb

And Sen. Al Franken makes that plausible.

I do like Al quite a bit. Very impressed with how well he’s done in the Senate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:28:42am

donald’s tweet (sent by Android) has been deleted and staff tweeted it again (sent by iPhone) with the name spelled correctly.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:29:14am

What we’re seeing though with the Alt-right with people like Milo, CCJ, Cernovitch, etc is a sort of modernizing of what people like Duke were doing back in the day. It’s the same hateful shit we’ve known for generations but modernizing it. Really disturbing to see that a good amount of Gen Yers are falling in with it. I’d much rather be a hated SJW than an Alt-right piece of trash.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:29:43am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald’s tweet (sent by Android) has been deleted and staff tweeted it again (sent by iPhone) with the name spelled correctly.

Because the problem was the spelling of the name and that not the attempt to exploit Wade’s family loss for political gain.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:30:44am

Young people of all races peacefully coexisting is an anathema.

#Hillary2016 has shown us who she is, she can try and soften up her message, but we know who she is now. #AltRight pic.twitter.com/rbYMoCocvY

— David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) August 26, 2016

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 9:32:20am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fucking asshole.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 9:32:26am

Irony is officially dead.

We all know who the true bigot is, #CrookedHillary…shame on you, shame on you. #AltRight #AltRightMeans #MAGA pic.twitter.com/r7tbGgry67

— David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) August 26, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:33:36am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Because the problem was the spelling of the name and that not the attempt to exploit Wade’s family loss for political gain.

Trump literally thinks misspelling Wade’s first name is the ONLY thing wrong with this tweet. No self awareness. https://t.co/TsCaw4J9nj

— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) August 27, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:34:34am

Are you fucking serious? You deleted the first tweet only because the name was misspelled? Are fucking serious? https://t.co/Tb4cRyXfgq

— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) August 27, 2016

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:34:43am

re: #342 Nyet

Irony is officially dead.

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It sure as hell is. We’re talking about a guy who made it really far in the ranks in the KKK in the 1970’s complaining about Clinton praising someone who regretted his past in the KKK. Duke? He’s still the same hateful fucker today.

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Skip Intro Aug 27, 2016 • 9:36:23am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with that tweet. Trump never makes mistakes so he never has to apologize.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:36:23am

Trump’s debate prep: WrestleMania, burgers, zingers, Ingraham as Hillary, Ailes as cornerman https://t.co/Ku17Dd2K8L pic.twitter.com/wb16pcItFg

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) August 27, 2016

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:37:44am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Basically he has enablers telling him what to say. You have a has been- Rudy, an old bigot- Roger Ailes, and Diet Coulter-Ingraham.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 9:40:17am

I thought KellyAnne said Ailes wasn’t involved with the campaign??

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:40:46am

re: #349 Jenner7

I thought KellyAnne said Ailes wasn’t involved with the campaign??

Nothing to see here…move along…

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 9:42:02am

re: #340 Nyet

Not that that image isn’t bad enough, but does Hillary have six fingers on her shootin’ hand?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 9:42:39am

A duck knows his or her own body and if s/he refused medical treatment, surely it was for good reason pic.twitter.com/YI90IYdonH

— Katie Schwartz (@katieschwartz) August 27, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 9:44:45am

In regards The Giant Claw, the reason the kaiju looked so utterly goofy was

[The film’s producer, Sam] Katzman originally planned to utilize stop motion effects by Ray Harryhausen, but due to budget constraints, he instead hired a low-budget special effects studio in Mexico City, Mexico to create the mythical creature that would be the showpiece of the production. The result, however, was a poorly-made “marionette”.

Heh.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 9:45:06am

re: #351 stpaulbear

Not that that image isn’t bad enough, but does Hillary have six fingers on her shootin’ hand?

Good catch.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 9:47:25am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Probably didn’t want to be treated by a quack.

(h/t to Mrs. FBW)

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danarchy Aug 27, 2016 • 9:47:49am

re: #351 stpaulbear

Not that that image isn’t bad enough, but does Hillary have six fingers on her shootin’ hand?

I think that bottom “finger” is actually her elbow or forearm or something. Just a weird drawing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:48:21am

Even when Both Sides Do It™ (gag!), Trump is outside:

Chicago murder:Dems: Tragic, and it’s gunsGOP: Tragic, but it’s cultureTrump: This is what I’ve been tellin’ those blacks. I’m awesome.

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) August 27, 2016

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 9:48:38am

re: #346 Skip Intro

Trump doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with that tweet. Trump never makes mistakes so he never has to apologize.

Not to God Himself.

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 9:49:48am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

Good catch.

How can an artist be so stupid as to make a mistake about the number of fingers that humans have? It’s pretty obviously a ‘that’s good, fuck it’ image, but did he draw 1-2-3-4-5 fingers and then realize that he forgot about the thumb? Good God.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 9:51:46am

I didn’t know this slimy death merchant was still alive.

Guess who got the coveted comb-licker endorsement. pic.twitter.com/SZQyN1Q968

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 27, 2016

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 9:52:06am

re: #356 danarchy

You’re right. It’s the lower palm of her hand. Still pretty awful.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 9:52:33am

re: #359 stpaulbear

How can an artist be so stupid as to make a mistake about the number of fingers that humans have? It’s pretty obviously a ‘that’s good, fuck it’ image, but did he draw 1-2-3-4-5 fingers and then realize that he forgot about the thumb? Good God.

It actually looks like the ‘sixth finger’ is her wrist. Just badly drawn.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 9:52:38am

Always late to the party.

Nevermind.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 9:54:00am

re: #360 darthstar

I didn’t know this slimy death merchant was still alive.

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There has to be some other word for it than ‘endorsement’ when somebody like Wolfowitz says he’s voting for Hillary because Trump is insane.

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Jay C Aug 27, 2016 • 9:56:13am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

re: #353 Dr Lizardo

My favorite story about The Giant Claw comes from IMDB:

In an interview, star Jeff Morrow said that neither he nor anyone on the film saw the title “monster” until they went to the film’s premiere in Morrow’s home town.
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Morrow said that the audience roared with laughter every time the “monster” made an appearance, and he wound up slinking in embarrassment out of the theater before the film was over so that no one who knew him would recognize him.

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Dr Lizardo Aug 27, 2016 • 9:57:00am

re: #365 Jay C

My favorite story about The Giant Claw comes from IMDB:

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LOL. Hell, I would too.

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EmmaAnne Aug 27, 2016 • 9:57:11am

re: #256 sagehen

Jane Austen — Hillary should smile more, and modulate her voice. She would also be well-advised to employ more subtlety in her criticisms.

Oh I think not:

I am only resolved to act in that manner, which will, in my own opinion, constitute my happiness, without reference to you.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 9:57:27am

re: #360 darthstar

I didn’t know this slimy death merchant was still alive.

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What that really needs is a piece of wax paper and some kazoo sounds.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 9:59:04am

re: #365 Jay C

My favorite story about The Giant Claw comes from IMDB:

I think they got the design from this…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 9:59:19am

re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White

There has to be some other word for it than ‘endorsement’ when somebody like Wolfowitz says he’s voting for Hillary because Trump is insane.

Yanno, if it was possible to turn me into an Anti-Semite, Perle, Wolfowitz, and Kristol would have done it in the 70s.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:02:08am

re: #351 stpaulbear

Not that that image isn’t bad enough, but does Hillary have six fingers on her shootin’ hand?

I only see 5.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:02:46am

re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White

There has to be some other word for it than ‘endorsement’ when somebody like Wolfowitz says he’s voting for Hillary because Trump is insane.

There was actually an intelligent discussion about this on MSNBC last week (!! I know, right?). Republicans saying they’d vote for Trump but aren’t endorsing him. If you’re a public official and you publicly say you are voting for someone, that’s an endorsement. Now, it’s not one you’ll necessarily see on the campaign website - though getting a neocon like Wolfowitz on board is a serious feather in Hillary’s cap in some circles - but it is an endorsement.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:04:38am

Squinting hard, I can see the bottom finger as a bit of foreshortened upper arm. Also starting to like the image of “Dirty Hillary”.

Make my day, racist GOP punks.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:05:07am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

Squinting hard, I can see the bottom finger as a bit of foreshortened upper arm. Also starting to like the image of “Dirty Hillary”.

Make my day, racist GOP punks.

I thought it was hand jowel.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:05:36am

ROGER STONE and DAVID BOSSIE are also informally involved in Trump’s debate discussions… https://t.co/vGrBa3iG7I

— Robert Costa (@costareports) August 27, 2016

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:07:11am

re: #375 Jenner7

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I can’t wait for Trump to say, “I love the smell of napalm in the morning.”…wait…that’s Oliver Stone. Never mind…

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 10:07:49am

re: #376 darthstar

I can’t wait for Trump to say, “I love the smell of napalm in the morning.”…wait…that’s Oliver Stone. Never mind…

Nope, not even him. Coppola.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:09:07am

re: #375 Jenner7

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ROGER STONE and DAVID BOSSIE are also informally involved in Trump’s debate discussions…

The first debate (if Trump doesn’t go chickenshit and back out) is going to be a complete debacle.

Trump doesn’t realize that Clinton has faced down all these professional assholes before, and taken the hit. That may be a fatal mistake.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:11:28am

re: #377 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope, not even him. Coppola.

Meh…his wines are okay. His restaurant on Broadway in SF is pretty good though.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:12:27am

Okay…I just googled Roger Stone. He’s just some paid political sycophant?

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:12:28am

re: #372 darthstar

There was actually an intelligent discussion about this on MSNBC last week (!! I know, right?). Republicans saying they’d vote for Trump but aren’t endorsing him. If you’re a public official and you publicly say you are voting for someone, that’s an endorsement. Now, it’s not one you’ll necessarily see on the campaign website - though getting a neocon like Wolfowitz on board is a serious feather in Hillary’s cap in some circles - but it is an endorsement.

From CNN:

“I wish there were somebody I could be comfortable voting for,” Wolfowitz told the German publication Der Spiegel. “I might have to vote for Hillary Clinton, even though I have big reservations about her.”

May have sounded more like an endorsement in the original German.

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Jayleia Aug 27, 2016 • 10:12:52am

Holy crap, I just got 30 tweets sent in like 15 minutes from some egg with 57k tweets that insists that if we do think Trump thinks his stress is=tsunami victims, then we’re all misinterpreting that.

And since we’re misinterpreting that, then we must be misinterpreting what he said about STDs being Trump’s nam.

And even if he DID say something stupid about the STDs=’nam, that’s not proof he said something stupid THIS time…

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:12:55am

re: #380 darthstar

Okay…I just googled Roger Stone. He’s just some paid political sycophant?

Google more.

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EmmaAnne Aug 27, 2016 • 10:14:46am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

Squinting hard, I can see the bottom finger as a bit of foreshortened upper arm. Also starting to like the image of “Dirty Hillary”.

Make my day, racist GOP punks.

Me too. She looks bad-ass.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:15:03am

re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White

There has to be some other word for it than ‘endorsement’ when somebody like Wolfowitz says he’s voting for Hillary because Trump is insane.

That’s a ringing acquiescence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:15:21am

re: #383 Nyet

Google more.

Google Roger Stone + Trump + CNN

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:15:57am

re: #221 Mattand

Hey, folks:

Got a nice, non-political, Trump-and-Nazi free post for everyone. Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.) I’ve been doing some research on things to do/areas to avoid while there (not a lot of love for the Tenderloin out there). Anybody got any protips they can spare/share?

Fun fact: I forget who, but I believe I share a b-day with another Lizard.

As always: thanks for the help; thanks for keeping me sane; and never, ever eat raw wombat pirogies.

Also: apologies in advance if I don’t reply/upvote right away. Crazy schedule today.

Congratulations in advance!

Tadich Grill is tasty but I can’t recommend it anymore because of the racism of the family that owns it.

House of Prime Rib is absolutely worth it, both if you like prime rib and just as an old school SF institution. You will need reservations. You would need to get them soon. VERY soon. (Alternately, you can eat at the bar but you’ll miss part of the experience and you still have to put your name on the waiting list for it when you get in.) If you do decide to do that, I recommend arriving early enough to do a drink in their waiting lounge.

If you like gin (or even if you are neutral on the topic), Whitechapel is a fantastic bar. Go closer to opening hours, it can get really busy and then the service slides some. Also sit at the bar there. Fantastic selection of gin if you like gin, but the cocktails are also all fantastic (even for those who are much more skeptical about gin). (The same folks also run Smuggler’s Cove, which is a rum-focused tiki-bar, about 4 blocks away. I prefer Whitechapel for the obvious reasons, but if rum is your preference you should check that out.)

I’m a big fan of walking along the waterfront from the Ferry Building (and if you are there on Saturday morning you should go see the farmer’s market, which will have lots of samples and a few things you can eat - very easy to do lunch there) all the way to Fisherman’s Wharf and ending up at the Musee Mechanique which is one of my must-see attractions. The Exploratorium is also good, if you’ve never been.

There’s a fantastic little indoor Rube Goldberg style mini golf place (9 holes, unless they’ve expanded) called Urban Putt in Mission. Fun to have a drink at their bar as you wait for your turn and then make your way through the course. It can be crowded though, so I would recommend not-Saturday if possible.

The Sutro Baths is a sentimental favorite, and there’s some nice hiking out that direction. It’s a little less convenient from the Financial District side of things but some gorgeous views of the Golden Gate and the cliffs down into the water.

The cable car museum is surprisingly good.

Finally, if you’re going to be in the city for any reasonable length of time, look at picking up a Clipper card. I think you can get them from most pharmacies. All the public transit takes it (with the possible exception of the cable cars - I haven’t ridden them in a very long time because they’re $$ compared to others) and it’s a hell of a lot better than fumbling with cash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:18:02am

Outside a Planned Parenthood clinic this morning:

The gauntlet. Over 100 antis today. #notcounseling #protectthezone pic.twitter.com/jMyordgUZy

— Huxley Morgan (@HuxleyMorgan) August 27, 2016

This is what clients have to get through at the entrance. #notcounseling #protectthezone pic.twitter.com/Wql59eZkUB

— Huxley Morgan (@HuxleyMorgan) August 27, 2016

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:18:12am

re: #387 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is there still the Exploratorium at the old exposition site?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:18:15am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

Outside a Planned Parenthood clinic this morning:

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Wearing nail polish today so an anti tells me I’m an abomination. #clinicescort

— j garcia (@jasoncomix) August 27, 2016

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:19:20am

re: #389 Decatur Deb

Is there still the Exploratorium at the old exposition site?

No, it moved about three years ago and is now out on one of the piers. Between the Ferry Building and the Fisherman’s Wharf area, in fact. The new location is nice but not quite the same as the old building. (I understand why they moved though - the increase in foot traffic has been noticeable.)

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:19:26am

re: #383 Nyet

Google more.

I read his wiki page. Meh. He worked for Nixon…and Reagan…both dead now.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:20:41am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

Outside a Planned Parenthood clinic this morning:

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I used to stop and cuss those fuckers out…and bring coffee to the two gals(usually) there to protect patients from the abuse as they entered the clinic.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:22:11am

re: #391 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, it moved about three years ago and is now out on one of the piers. Between the Ferry Building and the Fisherman’s Wharf area, in fact. The new location is nice but not quite the same as the old building. (I understand why they moved though - the increase in foot traffic has been noticeable.)

It was brilliant, perhaps the first of its kind. Birmingham has a version, and Grandson1 gets a membership for Christmas each year.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:22:16am

Alt right are not Nazis! Nor are they fascists! Ignore that the “alt right reply to Hillary” appeared on a channel full of Holocaust denial, antisemitic videos and Dugin interviews, ignore the mustached man behind the curtain!

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:22:24am

re: #392 darthstar

I read his wiki page. Meh. He worked for Nixon…and Reagan…both dead now.

And?

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:25:48am

re: #392 darthstar

I read his wiki page. Meh. He worked for Nixon…and Reagan…both dead now.

I suppose Hillary should just ignore him and shame the media into talking about him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:26:36am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

It was brilliant, perhaps the first of its kind. Birmingham has a version, and Grandson1 gets a membership for Christmas each year.

For all that we only get to SF once or twice a month, we have a membership there. I can happily go watch the dry ice spin out on the water for hours. (They added that underneath their glass topped bar which was …brilliant, to say the least.)

If it wasn’t quite so far I’d seriously look at volunteering. In some ways that kind of science explanation is one of my favorite things to do.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:27:19am

re: #395 Nyet

Alt right are not Nazis! Nor are they fascists! Ignore that the “alt right reply to Hillary” appeared on a channel full of Holocaust denial, antisemitic videos and Dugin interviews, ignore the mustached man behind the curtain!

If we want to make a new taxonomic entry, the distinguishing feature might be the relative attitude towards women. Nazis might have been slightly ahead of the curve compared to the background attitude. Alt-Assholes are distinctly retrograde, to the point of sexual pathology.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:27:47am

re: #396 Nyet

And?

And I don’t care. There are so many assholes involved in Trump’s campaign I don’t have time for them all.

But check out this cool pic of a Heron I got this morning in full glide mode about 30 feet away from me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 10:27:59am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

It was brilliant, perhaps the first of its kind. Birmingham has a version, and Grandson1 gets a membership for Christmas each year.

Birmingham Alabama has a version of the Exploratorium? Don’t tell them Frank Oppenheimer was a commie, whatever you do! /

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 27, 2016 • 10:28:21am

re: #372 darthstar

There was actually an intelligent discussion about this on MSNBC last week (!! I know, right?). Republicans saying they’d vote for Trump but aren’t endorsing him. If you’re a public official and you publicly say you are voting for someone, that’s an endorsement. Now, it’s not one you’ll necessarily see on the campaign website - though getting a neocon like Wolfowitz on board is a serious feather in Hillary’s cap in some circles - but it is an endorsement.

The NATURE of the endorsement is key, though. It’s a grudging “Holy shit, I can’t believe I’m saying this” endorsement, not a “She stands for what I stand for” endorsement. But people like my Idiot Brother will see it as that.

All Clinton has done, and this is why you’re wrong about ‘sinking to his level’, is to say, “This is Trump. This is what he’s said. These are the people he chooses to associate with and have run his campaign. Is this who you are? Is this what you want?”, all without giving up any of the most progressive platform in Democratic Party history. She’s the one who has to do that. Simply having Liz Warren or Joe Biden attack Trump isn’t enough, because they’re the designated Attack Dogs. By giving this speech, and the previous one on Foreign Policy, she’s saying, “This is not a normal election. Trump is not a normal candidate.”

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:28:33am

re: #398 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For all that we only get to SF once or twice a month, we have a membership there. I can happily go watch the dry ice spin out on the water for hours. (They added that underneath their glass topped bar which was …brilliant, to say the least.)

If it wasn’t quite so far I’d seriously look at volunteering. In some ways that kind of science explanation is one of my favorite things to do.

You could get patient 5yr-olds to watch crystals grow.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:28:44am

re: #400 darthstar

And I don’t care. There are so many assholes involved in Trump’s campaign I don’t have time for them all.

But check out this cool pic of a Heron I got this morning in full glide mode about 30 feet away from me.

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Looks like a Klingon ship.

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:29:32am

re: #387 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Congratulations in advance!

Tadich Grill is tasty but I can’t recommend it anymore because of the racism of the family that owns it.

House of Prime Rib is absolutely worth it, both if you like prime rib and just as an old school SF institution. You will need reservations. You would need to get them soon. VERY soon. (Alternately, you can eat at the bar but you’ll miss part of the experience and you still have to put your name on the waiting list for it when you get in.) If you do decide to do that, I recommend arriving early enough to do a drink in their waiting lounge.

If you like gin (or even if you are neutral on the topic), Whitechapel is a fantastic bar. Go closer to opening hours, it can get really busy and then the service slides some. Also sit at the bar there. Fantastic selection of gin if you like gin, but the cocktails are also all fantastic (even for those who are much more skeptical about gin). (The same folks also run Smuggler’s Cove, which is a rum-focused tiki-bar, about 4 blocks away. I prefer Whitechapel for the obvious reasons, but if rum is your preference you should check that out.)

I’m a big fan of walking along the waterfront from the Ferry Building (and if you are there on Saturday morning you should go see the farmer’s market, which will have lots of samples and a few things you can eat - very easy to do lunch there) all the way to Fisherman’s Wharf and ending up at the Musee Mechanique which is one of my must-see attractions. The Exploratorium is also good, if you’ve never been.

There’s a fantastic little indoor Rube Goldberg style mini golf place (9 holes, unless they’ve expanded) called Urban Putt in Mission. Fun to have a drink at their bar as you wait for your turn and then make your way through the course. It can be crowded though, so I would recommend not-Saturday if possible.

The Sutro Baths is a sentimental favorite, and there’s some nice hiking out that direction. It’s a little less convenient from the Financial District side of things but some gorgeous views of the Golden Gate and the cliffs down into the water.

The cable car museum is surprisingly good.

Finally, if you’re going to be in the city for any reasonable length of time, look at picking up a Clipper card. I think you can get them from most pharmacies. All the public transit takes it (with the possible exception of the cable cars - I haven’t ridden them in a very long time because they’re $$ compared to others) and it’s a hell of a lot better than fumbling with cash.

I haven’t been there since the 80s, and I imagine it’s changed so I wouldn’t recognize it, but dittos on the Exploratorium, the cable car museum, and Fisherman’s Wharf.

I’d add Golden Gate Park (do they still have bison?) and the Arboretum therein, if it’s still there.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:29:34am

re: #400 darthstar

And I don’t care. There are so many assholes involved in Trump’s campaign I don’t have time for them all.

Yes, you make that clear every single time.

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:30:35am

re: #401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Birmingham Alabama has a version of the Exploratorium? Don’t tell them Frank Oppenheimer was a commie, whatever you do! /

mcwane.org

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:30:37am

Sigh….

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:32:27am

re: #408 Jenner7

Sigh….

Have a cat on a leash.

#Caturday walk pic.twitter.com/u8fEWi6kbF

— Jennifer Gunter (@DrJenGunter) August 27, 2016

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:33:21am

Обыкновенное чудо - Три дня я гналась за вами

“I have chased you for three days… yes… to tell you how indifferent I am to you.”

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:34:33am

If the cat on a leash doesn’t work, there’s always this:

AAHHHHHH

— endless screaming (@infinite_scream) August 27, 2016

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:34:57am

re: #403 Decatur Deb

You could get patient 5yr-olds to watch crystals grow.

They have a fantastic exhibit now - essentially a super-cooled metal table top. Water freezes on it, although it’ll melt if you run water over it for a while. So you run the water to clear out the ice and then stop and watch the ice crystals forming, and they have polarized magnifiers so you can really watch it. I enjoy that one at lot.

I enjoy a lot of their exhibits a lot. >.>

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:35:13am

From Stone’s wikipedia:

2015-16 Trump campaign[edit]
Stone served as an advisor to the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[50] He left the campaign on August 8, 2015,[51] but remains a “Trump confidante.”[52][53]

During the 2016 election cycle, Stone was banned from appearing on CNN and MSNBC after making a series of offensive Twitter posts disparaging other television personalities.[54] Stone specifically referred to a CNN commentator as an “Entitled Diva Bitch” and imagined her “killing herself,” and called another CNN personality a “stupid negro” and a “fat negro.”[55] Washington Post media writer Erik Wemple described Stone’s tweets as “nasty” and “bigoted.”[55] In February 2016, CNN said that it would no longer invite Stone to appear on its network, and MSNBC followed suit, confirming in April 2016 that Stone had also been banned from that network.[56] In a June 2016 appearance on On Point, Stone told Tom Ashbrook: “I would have to admit that calling Roland Martin a ‘fat negro’ was a two-martini tweet, and I regret that. As for my criticism of Ana Navarro not being qualified…I don’t understand why she’s there, given her lack of qualifications.”[54]

But who cares, right?

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:35:45am

re: #402 Blind Frog Belly White

“This is not a normal election. Trump is not a normal candidate.”

I agree. It isn’t and he isn’t. So we talk about Trump, Trump, Trump.

Twitter has been lit up for four hours over a tweet of his about a woman getting shot meaning black people will vote Trump. As the traffic died down, his campaign corrected the spelling of the victim’s cousin and started it back up again. This is what he wants, and this is what he gets. Everyone is acting according to script.

If this was a normal election with a viable Republican candidate we’d be debating policy and Republicans would be crying TAXES!!! all the time while Democrats would be saying, JOBS!!! and every little thing like potential pay for play at the State Department would be getting so much coverage in the media we’d all be drinking Pepto-Bismol by the gallon because of the ulcers we’d have over possibly losing the White House to someone like Rubio or Cruz or Jeb! or Kasich…

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:37:27am

re: #414 darthstar

Don’t strain any muscles with your whole not-caring bit there.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:37:41am

re: #414 darthstar

“potential”

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Decatur Deb Aug 27, 2016 • 10:39:03am

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They have a fantastic exhibit now - essentially a super-cooled metal table top. Water freezes on it, although it’ll melt if you run water over it for a while. So you run the water to clear out the ice and then stop and watch the ice crystals forming, and they have polarized magnifiers so you can really watch it. I enjoy that one at lot.

I enjoy a lot of their exhibits a lot. >.>

Ha, that’s genius. (I was snarking. Led 4 of them ages 3-14 through the rock-candy agony.)

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gwangung Aug 27, 2016 • 10:39:06am

re: #415 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, in my book, not electing a FUCKING RACIST is pretty much a policy discussion.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:42:20am

re: #418 gwangung

Well, in my book, not electing a FUCKING RACIST is pretty much a policy discussion.

Hey, now. Let’s not stoop to Trump’s level.

No stooping.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:42:32am

re: #387 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I got sick last time I ate at Tadich. It’s crowded and noisy and historic but the food is rich. Try Tracy Des Jardin’s place, Jardiniere…food is fantastic, the place is beautiful, and you’ll be well treated. Or, if you want to be on California Street, Barbacco is next door to Tadich and very nice. There’s also a Michael Minna place a few doors down that’s good but I’m drawing a blank on the name.

Other good places in the neighborhood — Boulevard (prepare to spend $200-300 for two), and Prospect at Spear and Folsom is fantastic.

Or go out to the Mission to Foreign Cinema - funky place with awesome food.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:44:30am

Dwyane Wade and Donald Trump speak out on Twitter in wake of the NBA star’s cousin’s fatal shooting. https://t.co/og56Rb7fEv

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 27, 2016

Yeah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:44:48am

re: #414 darthstar

It wasn’t even the victim’s name…it was her famous pro basketball player cousin whose name was spelled wrong.
And the misspelling wasn’t the egregious part of the tweet.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 10:46:24am

This Trump tweet got under Betty Cracker’s skin:

Dwyane Wade’s cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2016

Holy fucking hell.

The Tangerine Turd must not be merely defeated; he must be annihilated at the polls so thoroughly that his family change their names and enter the Witless Protection Program, his campaign staff must find new work selling produce from the back of pickup trucks to generate income, politicians who endorsed him are permanently exiled to the howling political wilderness and the party that put forward an oaf of that caliber collapses utterly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:46:57am

re: #417 Decatur Deb

Ha, that’s genius. (I was snarking. Led 4 of them ages 3-14 through the rock-candy agony.)

Rock candy is not the way to go with that age group.

mr. klys will spend approximately all the time I will give him on the spinning table, where you try to get the wheel blocks to spin on it.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 10:47:06am

re: #421 Jenner7

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Yeah.

Trump didn’t “speak” out. He used a dead relative of a famous person and used it to try to get people to vote for him. He really is a pathetic piece of shit.

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Dr. Matt Aug 27, 2016 • 10:47:20am

“I can state unequivocally he will be the healthiest individual ever elected POTUS” - Trumps Dr

Did he forget 44th? pic.twitter.com/n0G8rFqJhQ

— Pin Head (@PiercedSkull) August 26, 2016

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:47:33am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

It wasn’t even the victim’s name…it was her famous pro basketball player cousin whose name was spelled wrong.
And the misspelling wasn’t the egregious part of the tweet.

And they only corrected that because Olbermann called them out on it.

As if spelling DWade’s name right somehow made the rest of that revolting Tweet okay.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:48:28am

re: #420 darthstar

I got sick last time I ate at Tadich. It’s crowded and noisy and historic but the food is rich. Try Tracy Des Jardin’s place, Jardiniere…food is fantastic, the place is beautiful, and you’ll be well treated. Or, if you want to be on California Street, Barbacco is next door to Tadich and very nice. There’s also a Michael Minna place a few doors down that’s good but I’m drawing a blank on the name.

Other good places in the neighborhood — Boulevard (prepare to spend $200-300 for two), and Prospect at Spear and Folsom is fantastic.

Or go out to the Mission to Foreign Cinema - funky place with awesome food.

Too busy enjoying privilege to care.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 10:48:33am

re: #426 Dr. Matt

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Everyone knows Trump is Groundskeeper Willie underneath his ugly suits.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:49:14am

Come on guys, we’re not talking enough about how awful Hillary is and how much she’d get her ass kicked if she was running against anybody else.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:49:42am

re: #418 gwangung

Well, in my book, not electing a FUCKING RACIST is pretty much a policy discussion.

That’s silly. Policy discussions are things like economy and taxes and none of that silly social justice stuff. Or anything to do with race. There’s no racism in this country anymore, remember? That’s why it was so important to talk about income inequality and only income inequality, because that’ll fix whatever else is happening.

And just remember, Donald Trump doesn’t really mean all of these racist things he keeps saying. It’s just to promote his brand. Ignore the inconvenient history that sort of makes it look like he actually, genuinely believes this shit, that’s unimportant.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 10:49:57am

re: #410 Nyet

(From this movie which I love, incidentally with English subs.)

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:51:46am

re: #416 Jenner7

“potential”

I meant to say possible. Was there conflict of interest? Who the fuck knows. When asked about it, Donna Shalala said that they have always been careful “to avoid the impression of a conflict of interest” which is a pretty political answer. Does it mean we should all dump Hillary and vote for Trump? Of course not. But let’s not kid ourselves either .
by pretending there was no way anything could have happened.

If the GOP holds the house, we’ll have all sorts of congressional hearings on the CF & State Dept ties (not that there are any - we’re talking about GOP witch hunts here). That’s the biggest reason she shouldn’t try to separate Trump from the GOP in her attacks. Destroy them all this November. Or put up with four years of “investigations”…

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:52:45am

My condolences to Dwyane Wade and his family, on the loss of Nykea Aldridge. They are in my thoughts and prayers.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2016

Yeah, go fuck yourself.

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jaunte Aug 27, 2016 • 10:53:06am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Trump didn’t “speak” out. He used a dead relative of a famous person and used it to try to get people to vote for him. He really is a pathetic piece of shit.

Yet another example of him using his “gut” and an anecdote to pretend to make a policy statement.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:54:10am

And for the record, if you genuinely don’t care about this race or it’s not being run to your taste or whatever, that’s fine. But why waltz in to a room people who do care, passionately (in some cases because it has the potential to be literally life or death for them), and tell them they shouldn’t be caring either?

Like if you don’t care about something, maybe just shut up about it?

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 10:54:25am

re: #434 Jenner7

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Yeah, go fuck yourself.

Damage control. Fucking asshole.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:55:08am

re: #434 Jenner7

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Yeah, go fuck yourself.

I’m sure now he’ll be able to go on about his day with a clean conscience.

‘Thoughts and prayers’ make everything okay.
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(Also - which phone was that posted from? I’m betting it’s the iPhone.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:55:18am

re: #434 Jenner7

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Yeah, go fuck yourself.

send via iPad. aka his staff/kids “trying to make things better”.

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:56:05am

re: #433 darthstar

That’s the biggest reason she shouldn’t try to separate Trump from the GOP in her attacks. Destroy them all this November. Or put up with four years of “investigations”…

Possibly she’s willing to risk the many years of ‘investigations’ rather than tar all Republicans with the alt-right label.

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Jenner7 Aug 27, 2016 • 10:56:15am

re: #433 darthstar

It’s absolutely fair to look into the foundation. But that’s not what the media is doing. They are outright lying about it.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:56:23am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

send via iPad. aka his staff/kids “trying to make things better”.

I fucking knew it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 10:56:56am

re: #434 Jenner7

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Yeah, go fuck yourself.

“Thoughts and prayers” is the new “Bless your heart”.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 10:56:58am

re: #440 wrenchwench

Possibly she’s willing to risk the many years of ‘investigations’ rather than tar all Republicans with the alt-right label.

Too soft. Damn weak woman.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 10:58:12am

You know that vote for me may have been more crass than his response after Orlando. THough “thanks for the congrats” was pretty fucked up too.

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BigPapa Aug 27, 2016 • 10:58:18am

re: #434 Jenner7

His thoughts and prayers are horrible. He should keep them to himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 10:58:26am

re: #442 makeitstop

I fucking knew it.

The “corrected” tweet was also sent by staff via iPhone.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 10:58:42am

re: #415 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t strain any muscles with your whole not-caring bit there.

Oh, I care. And believe me, I’m glad Hillary doesn’t have a real opponent. This shit show is far more entertaining and I’m not being asked to donate every five minutes to stopping the end of the world.

But it is a shit show. And I’m jaded. And I know it’s considered bad form to be less than 100% with her and I should probably shut the fuck up now.

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 10:58:44am

re: #444 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Too soft. Damn weak woman.

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I’m willing to destroy the Republican Party, but not if it takes destroying the country to get it done a little faster.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 10:59:15am

re: #440 wrenchwench

Possibly she’s willing to risk the many years of ‘investigations’ rather than tar all Republicans with the alt-right label.

Also - going after all Republicans as bigots would be exactly the same as what we saw them do over and over at the RNC - like the shouty pastor who in the opening fucking prayer declared all Democrats ‘the enemy.’

Talk about ‘stooping to Trump’s level.’

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:00:04am

re: #428 Nyet

Too busy enjoying privilege to care.

That’s it exactly. I just said I didn’t care who Roger Stone was. I don’t care who Bannon is either…his ex-wife seems to think he was a major league asshole.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 11:01:31am

re: #448 darthstar

Oh, I care. And believe me, I’m glad Hillary doesn’t have a real opponent. This shit show is far more entertaining and I’m not being asked to donate every five minutes to stopping the end of the world.

But it is a shit show. And I’m jaded. And I know it’s considered bad form to be less than 100% with her and I should probably shut the fuck up now.

You keep getting pushback because your takes happen to have a lot of sexism and privilege baked into them that you seem to have no interest in unpacking because you don’t like Hillary.

But hey, it’s only because you’re not 100% into Hillary that people care, right? Couldn’t possibly be any other reasons.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:01:44am

re: #451 darthstar

That’s it exactly. I just said I didn’t care who Roger Stone was. I don’t care who Bannon is either…his ex-wife seems to think he was a major league asshole.

Well Bannon is running Trump’s campaign. I think people should care who he is. These are the people Trump chooses to count as his advisers while he asks the country to trust his judgment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:01:57am

#NationalDogDay pic.twitter.com/wrkoSD5zo1

— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) August 26, 2016

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:02:46am

re: #440 wrenchwench

Possibly she’s willing to risk the many years of ‘investigations’ rather than tar all Republicans with the alt-right label.

They’re tarring themselves by standing with Trump. Kelly Ayotte supports a bigot and a racist. That should hurt her in her state this November. Marco Rubio is voting for someone he himself accused of being racist. That should hurt him in November. John McCain was insulted by Trump, and he’s voting for him (Country first)…but McCain hugged Bush after Bush used his adopted daughter against him in South Carolina, so we know he has no self respect anyway.

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BigPapa Aug 27, 2016 • 11:03:43am

twitter.com My thoughts and prayers are with Trump’s social media staff.

— (((Sandy Mangina))) (@BigPapa1849)

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:04:43am

re: #455 darthstar

They’re tarring themselves by standing with Trump. Kelly Ayotte supports a bigot and a racist. That should hurt her in her state this November. Marco Rubio is voting for someone he himself accused of being racist. That should hurt him in November. John McCain was insulted by Trump, and he’s voting for him (Country first)…but McCain hugged Bush after Bush used his adopted daughter against him in South Carolina, so we know he has no self respect anyway.

We are going against those candidates if you hadn’t noticed. McCain, Ayotte, and Rubio are vulnerable. If you noticed, the Republicans that Clinton did name are ones not currently in office. Believe me, I think Clinton has a vested interest in seeing all three of those defeated.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:04:46am

re: #453 HappyWarrior

Well Bannon is running Trump’s campaign. I think people should care who he is. These are the people Trump chooses to count as his advisers while he asks the country to trust his judgment.

Here’s something funny. I don’t even know who Hillary’s campaign manager is. Probably because he/she isn’t a racist asshole. Don’t spoil it. I don’t need to know. I’m voting for the candidate, not her staff.

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wrenchwench Aug 27, 2016 • 11:05:01am

re: #455 darthstar

They’re tarring themselves by standing with Trump. Kelly Ayotte supports a bigot and a racist. That should hurt her in her state this November. Marco Rubio is voting for someone he himself accused of being racist. That should hurt him in November. John McCain was insulted by Trump, and he’s voting for him (Country first)…but McCain hugged Bush after Bush used his adopted daughter against him in South Carolina, so we know he has no self respect anyway.

There are many people who identify with the Republican Party who are not in the national spotlight.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:06:17am

re: #457 HappyWarrior

We are going against those candidates if you hadn’t noticed. McCain, Ayotte, and Rubio are vulnerable. If you noticed, the Republicans that Clinton did name are ones not currently in office. Believe me, I think Clinton has a vested interest in seeing all three of those defeated.

Except McCain - she gave him kudos and he’s still in office. She’s also giving Paul Ryan props.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 11:06:54am

One of the things that really impressed me about Obama, back in 2008, was the quality of the people he surrounded himself with. I mean, the President is a powerful position but he can’t do everything. It’s just not possible. So the staff that he picked mattered, and Obama’s talent for picking people was pretty fucking phenomenal.

It’s like that’s part of the leadership that we should expect from a good president.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:06:57am

re: #458 darthstar

Here’s something funny. I don’t even know who Hillary’s campaign manager is. Probably because he/she isn’t a racist asshole. Don’t spoil it. I don’t need to know. I’m voting for the candidate, not her staff.

That’s the thing isn’t it? And FWIW Mock isn’t a racist asshole. The damned point is that these candidates expect us to trust their judgment so why shouldn’t it be an issue that this guy,(Trump) with zero elected experience surrounds himself with someone like Bannon. It’s not about who Bannon is, it’s about what he is and what he stands for and that Trump has chosen to associate himself with that all the while telling the American people to trust him and if you think that’s a non issue I really can’t help you because I think it’s definitely an issue.

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gwangung Aug 27, 2016 • 11:08:05am

re: #458 darthstar

Here’s something funny. I don’t even know who Hillary’s campaign manager is. Probably because he/she isn’t a racist asshole. Don’t spoil it. I don’t need to know. I’m voting for the candidate, not her staff.

Actually, that’s wrong.

You are ALWAYS voting for staff, because staff A) implements policy, and who and how they implement policy is important, and B) selection of staff is a direct statement on the candidate’s judgement and administrative ability.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:08:30am

re: #459 wrenchwench

There are many people who identify with the Republican Party who are not in the national spotlight.

And that’s where the DNC comes in. What’s Debbie Wasserman Shultz doing these days? Wait…it’s Donna Brazile now who’s in charge. I wonder if there’s any effort to try to unseat some of the teabaggers downticket by tying them to Trump.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:08:43am

re: #460 darthstar

Except McCain - she gave him kudos and he’s still in office. She’s also giving Paul Ryan props.

If you don’t think the DSCC is running ads against him in Arizona, I wager to say you’re nuts. Whether we like it or not, McCain is respected, I think he’s a sellout douchebag but they’re also running against him in a state that he’s held elected office for years. I’m sorry but I think the Clinton campaign knows what they’re doing given that they’re casting a wide net where they’re campaigning.

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 11:09:39am

re: #400 darthstar

And I don’t care. There are so many assholes involved in Trump’s campaign I don’t have time for them all.

Roger Stone is the gold standard in asshole campaign tactics. Starting when he was a teenager.

His first documented dirty trick (1968) was when he used a false name to donate to Eugene McCarthy on behalf of the Young Communists League; then released the letter and money order to the press to “prove” that McCarthy was an avowed Communist.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:09:39am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

If you don’t think the DSCC is running ads against him in Arizona, I wager to say you’re nuts. Whether we like it or not, McCain is respected, I think he’s a sellout douchebag but they’re also running against him in a state that he’s held elected office for years. I’m sorry but I think the Clinton campaign knows what they’re doing given that they’re casting a wide net where they’re campaigning.

I hope you’re right.

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 11:09:48am

re: #458 darthstar

Here’s something funny. I don’t even know who Hillary’s campaign manager is. Probably because he/she isn’t a racist asshole. Don’t spoil it. I don’t need to know. I’m voting for the candidate, not her staff.

Because who gave a shit about James Watt as Secretary of the Interior during the Reagan admin. He was a nobody.

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 11:11:26am

re: #402 Blind Frog Belly White

The NATURE of the endorsement is key, though. It’s a grudging “Holy shit, I can’t believe I’m saying this” endorsement, not a “She stands for what I stand for” endorsement. But people like my Idiot Brother will see it as that.

All Clinton has done, and this is why you’re wrong about ‘sinking to his level’, is to say, “This is Trump. This is what he’s said. These are the people he chooses to associate with and have run his campaign. Is this who you are? Is this what you want?”, all without giving up any of the most progressive platform in Democratic Party history.

P.J. O’Roarke’s endorsement was “she’s wrong about *everything*, but she’s wrong within normal parameters. Electing Trump would be an extinction-level event.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 11:11:43am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Worth noting that as discussed last night, Hillary’s campaign has opened up a ground game in Arizona.

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Barefoot Grin Aug 27, 2016 • 11:12:05am

re: #468 stpaulbear

Because who gave a shit about James Watt as Secretary of the Interior during the Reagan admin. He was a nobody.

It was like appointing a termite to protect the foundation of the house.

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darthstar Aug 27, 2016 • 11:12:24am

Okay, folks…gotta run…it’s after 11am here. Keep up the good fight, despite bitter assholes like me who can’t seem to embrace the shit show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:12:45am

re: #464 darthstar

And that’s where the DNC comes in. What’s Debbie Wasserman Shultz doing these days? Wait…it’s Donna Brazile now who’s in charge. I wonder if there’s any effort to try to unseat some of the teabaggers downticket by tying them to Trump.

People who can be bothered to actually pay attention because this is important already know the answer to that.

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bratwurst Aug 27, 2016 • 11:13:37am

re: #472 darthstar

Okay, folks…gotta run…it’s after 11am here.

Going to give weather and traffic to go with the time check?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 11:14:08am

re: #474 bratwurst

Going to give weather and traffic to go with the time check?

Nah, all it was missing was a BBL.

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:14:10am

re: #400 darthstar

I must admit, I don’t care either — not because I think it doesn’t matter who Trump appoints, but because he’s already gone through so many jerks that I won’t give the next one the benefit of any doubt. Or bother to learn the details of the next one’s douchebaggery.

And I’m voting against Trump, even if his next appointee is a militant angel.

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Charles Johnson Aug 27, 2016 • 11:14:20am

If I read this email from Chuck Johnson correctly, he purchased a wife and is confused why I won’t do the same. pic.twitter.com/6uScbxHfcX

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 27, 2016

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:15:30am

re: #470 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Worth noting that as discussed last night, Hillary’s campaign has opened up a ground game in Arizona.

Definitely. And here’s the thing DS. It’s really not Clinton’s job to attack downticket opponents like McCain. That’s something Ann Kilpatrick and the DSCC will handle. We probably won’t see the ads since we’re not near but the people in Arizona definitely will.

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 11:15:35am

re: #405 wrenchwench

I haven’t been there since the 80s, and I imagine it’s changed so I wouldn’t recognize it, but dittos on the Exploratorium, the cable car museum, and Fisherman’s Wharf.

I’d add Golden Gate Park (do they still have bison?) and the Arboretum therein, if it’s still there.

The Presidio is pretty damn awesome. Bonus history facts: 160 years ago, that was the site of the ranch owned by John C Fremont, the first Republican presidential candidate and California’s first governor. (the military eminent-domained his ass. He then bought another ranch, in Monterey, they took that too. The man most responsible for bringing California into the union died broke and bitter.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 27, 2016 • 11:17:16am

re: #477 Charles Johnson

It didn’t have the C. in the name at the top and so I was very confused there for a moment.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 11:17:53am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

If you don’t think the DSCC is running ads against him in Arizona, I wager to say you’re nuts. Whether we like it or not, McCain is respected, I think he’s a sellout douchebag but they’re also running against him in a state that he’s held elected office for years. I’m sorry but I think the Clinton campaign knows what they’re doing given that they’re casting a wide net where they’re campaigning.

I wouldn’t be totally surprised at an upset like 1980, when Warren Magnuson was defeated here. He’d been in Congress since 1937 (the Senate since 1944) and everybody loved the guy, but just decided he was too old for the job any more. Unfortunately, that stuck us with the egregious Slade Gorton….

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:18:09am

re: #477 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:18:24am

re: #480 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It didn’t have the C. in the name at the top and so I was very confused there for a moment.

He lost his C in Hungary…

Hey, that rhymes! Let’s set it to music!

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BigPapa Aug 27, 2016 • 11:19:25am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

He lost his C in Hungary…

Hey, that rhymes! Let’s set it to music!

Cue the twangy banjoes…

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:19:57am

re: #479 sagehen

The Presidio is pretty damn awesome. Bonus history facts: 160 years ago, that was the site of the ranch owned by John C Fremont, the first Republican presidential candidate and California’s first governor. (the military eminent-domained his ass. He then bought another ranch, in Monterey, they took that too. The man most responsible for bringing California into the union died broke and bitter.)

Fort Point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:20:06am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

He lost his C in Hungary…

Hey, that rhymes! Let’s set it to music!

now I have a corrupted Blueberry Hill earworm going on…

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:20:32am

re: #481 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wouldn’t be totally surprised at an upset like 1980, when Warren Magnuson was defeated here. He’d been in Congress since 1937 (the Senate since 1944) and everybody loved the guy, but just decided he was too old for the job any more. Unfortnately, that stuck us with the egregious Slade Gorton….

I mean you have to go after every opponent differently. McCain as I said is someone who has been in office a long time and for a long time had legitimate bipartisan creds. DS and I actually have a similar opinion on McCain in general but I think he just doesn’t understand that going after him is different than say going after a Joe Walsh or Ron Johnosn (the guy who beat Feingold.) You’re putting McCain in awkward position where he has to defend voting for the nominee who’s said all these nasty things about him while his opposition party has offered respect to him.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:21:42am

One of John Warner’s most difficult races here in Va was when he ran against Mark Warner in 1996 and that was a presidential election year. Mark didn’t really go after John Warner personally that much. It ended up in a less unfortunately but it went far better than if Mark Warner had spent the time just attacking John Warner.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:24:49am

Best thing though that may came out of Clinton campaigning aggressively in Arizona though? Sheriff Joe may be unemployed Joe.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 11:25:09am

re: #488 HappyWarrior

One of John Warner’s most difficult races here in Va was when he ran against Mark Warner in 1996 and that was a presidential election year. Mark didn’t really go after John Warner personally that much. It ended up in a less unfortunately but it went far better than if Mark Warner had spent the time just attacking John Warner.

“You voting for Warner?” “No, I’m voting for Warner!” Geez, what a mess…

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:26:37am

re: #490 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“You voting for Warner?” “No, I’m voting for Warner!” Geez, what a mess…

Ha! Mark’s slogan was “Mark, not John.” I’m hoping that John comes out in favor of Clinton-Kaine. He’s been pretty quiet in retirement though but it would not surprise me at all if he issued a statement opposing Trump-Pence. I respect the guy, he’s a true Maverick unlike McCain since he’s actually refused to endorse GOP nominees before.

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Jayleia Aug 27, 2016 • 11:27:04am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

I think its easier to list what ISN’T wrong with that weirdo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:29:15am

In other RW outrage today:

Niners QB Kaepernick refuses to stand for anthem in protest https://t.co/4Zhl79fKCY

— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 27, 2016

Funny that Kaepernick expects backlash for not standing for the anthem. When MLB, NFL, others moved anthem to sell more ADS -no real protest

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) August 27, 2016

One of the main reasons I’m proud to stand for the National Anthem is that nobody has to.

— (((Popehat))) (@Popehat) August 27, 2016

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:29:17am

re: #492 Jayleia

I think its easier to list what ISN’T wrong with that weirdo.

I know, I’m amazed that he managed to find someone willing to marry him because he’s such a repulsive ass.

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HappyWarrior Aug 27, 2016 • 11:29:55am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other RW outrage today:

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Yeah I saw that, he’s about to become the victim of a lot of right wing hatred.

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:31:34am

re: #490 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“You voting for Warner?” “No, I’m voting for Warner!” Geez, what a mess…

A few decades ago, there was a Marin County election in which two people named Qualkenbush ran against each other. Good times.

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sagehen Aug 27, 2016 • 11:33:12am

re: #433 darthstar

I meant to say possible. Was there conflict of interest? Who the fuck knows. When asked about it, Donna Shalala said that they have always been careful “to avoid the impression of a conflict of interest” which is a pretty political answer. Does it mean we should all dump Hillary and vote for Trump? Of course not. But let’s not kid ourselves either by pretending there was no way anything could have happened.

Y’know, if Melinda Gates wants to speak to the Secretary of State, there’s 100 valid job-related reasons the Secretary should take that call. “Vaccinations in Pakistan? I’ll need your itinerary so I won’t be surprised when Pakistan asks me about it. A water project in Sudan? Here’s the name of the under-secretary there you should coordinate with. Contraceptives in Nigeria? Let me give you the most up-to-date info about where your people can operate safely and where to avoid.”

The fact that Melinda also made a donation to the Clinton Foundation… sure the hell isn’t why she got access.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 11:34:35am

re: #496 Snarknado!

A few decades ago, there was a Marin County election in which two people named Qualkenbush ran against each other. Good times.

Was that really supposed to be an “l”? I went to school with a couple of Quackenbushes (Quackenbushi?) That would have been really confusing either way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:35:05am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

Yeah I saw that, he’s about to become the victim of a lot of right wing hatred.

Hey @Kaepernick7, how can a country that made a millionaire out of a no-talent, over-tattooed punk like you be an oppressive place to live?

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) August 27, 2016

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TedStriker Aug 27, 2016 • 11:36:29am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

related:

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Loser deadbeat dad says what?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:38:59am

really pathetic.

.@daveweigel could your mental health issues be to blame for bad reading comprehension? https://t.co/rHHQiUveZX #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

— Chuck C Johnson (@chuckcuckkilla) August 27, 2016

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:39:55am

re: #498 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Was that really supposed to be an “l”? I went to school with a couple of Quackenbushes (Quackenbushi?) That would have been really confusing either way.

As I said, it was long ago (like the 1970s). I remember it as Qualkenbush, though.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 11:40:54am

re: #501 Backwoods_Sleuth

really pathetic.

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Wait, how is he back on Twitter?

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:43:32am

re: #497 sagehen

No-one has ever made clear to me how how Hillary Clinton benefits from donations made to the Clinton Foundation. They’re making it sound like she (or someone) is pocketing bribes in exchange for access.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 11:43:49am

A pal and confidante of a potential most powerful human on earth is a friend and collaborator of truthers and Holocaust deniers.
But we’re supposed not to care.

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PhillyPretzel Aug 27, 2016 • 11:44:11am

re: #503 makeitstop

Look at the name he is using. That is probably how he did it.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:45:02am

re: #506 Split Ticket

Look at the name he is using. That is probably how he did it.

Yeah, this is his 11th? 12th? account at this point…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 27, 2016 • 11:45:29am

re: #505 Nyet

A pal and confidante of a potential most powerful human on earth is a friend and collaborator of truthers and Holocaust deniers.
But we’re supposed not to care.

Nope…that would stooping to their level.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 11:46:10am

Twitter policy says that if a person is permanently banned, they can’t make any new accounts.

Which is why this account needs to be reported:

twitter.com

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PhillyPretzel Aug 27, 2016 • 11:47:23am

re: #509 Nyet

Exactly. Report away Sergey.

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 11:48:29am

re: #504 Snarknado!

No-one has ever made clear to me how how Hillary Clinton benefits from donations made to the Clinton Foundation. They’re making it sound like she (or someone) is pocketing bribes in exchange for access.

Trump’s campaign is essentially accusing the Clintons of doing exactly what the Trump Foundation actually does on the regular.

And probably what the campaign is doing as we speak.

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 11:52:46am

re: #477 Charles Johnson

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He’s just begging Peter Thiel to notice and bankroll him.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 11:53:55am

Far-left-far-right convergence.

breitbart.com

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Snarknado! Aug 27, 2016 • 11:54:52am

re: #511 makeitstop

Trump’s campaign is essentially accusing the Clintons of doing exactly what the Trump Foundation actually does on the regular.

And probably what the campaign is doing as we speak.

But Trump (I assume) benefits financially. Hillary doesn’t own stock in the Clinton Foundation and she doesn’t get a paycheck from them. (Bill sits on the board, but I don’t believe the position is paid.) So how does she benefit from other people’s donations?

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 11:56:44am

re: #514 Snarknado!

But Trump (I assume) benefits financially. Hillary doesn’t own stock in the Clinton Foundation and she doesn’t get a paycheck from them. (Bill sits on the board, but I don’t believe the position is paid.) So how does she benefit from other people’s donations?

I’m not saying she does. Quite the contrary. By all indications, CF is totally above board and well regarded as an organization.

Trump, on the other hand, does nothing unless he can squeeze a buck out of it.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 27, 2016 • 12:03:18pm

re: #221 Mattand

Hey, folks:

Got a nice, non-political, Trump-and-Nazi free post for everyone. Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.)

You and I were born a month apart. Totally agree on the “ugh.”

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makeitstop Aug 27, 2016 • 12:04:25pm

re: #516 No Country For Old Haters

You and I were born a month apart. Totally agree on the “ugh.”

50? Mere pups, the both of you!

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stpaulbear Aug 27, 2016 • 12:06:47pm

re: #219 Nyet

OK. I’ve been watching that movie ‘The Stuff’ off and on this morning while reading and doing laundry. That is the worst ‘bad’ movie I’ve seen in a long long time. I kept waiting for it to have some humor or camp value but it was just 90 minutes of bad script, bad effects, and bad plot - not one scene ended in anything but massive letdown. That was just bad bad. I need to find something really good to salvage this afternoon…

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PhillyPretzel Aug 27, 2016 • 12:07:25pm

re: #516 No Country For Old Haters

re: #517 makeitstop

I do not think about my age. I just keep on moving. That way it will not catch up with me.

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Nyet Aug 27, 2016 • 12:11:20pm

re: #518 stpaulbear

As #241 and #246 show, opinions differ on that one ;)
I watched 2 or 3 times many many years ago, but I woudn’t re-watch it now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 27, 2016 • 12:12:31pm

Clean inside those bagpipes — and trumpets and clarinets

OK, I’m going to Hell….

We have a piper down - So I Married An Axe Murderer

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Big Beautiful Door Aug 27, 2016 • 12:59:21pm

re: #504 Snarknado!

No-one has ever made clear to me how how Hillary Clinton benefits from donations made to the Clinton Foundation. They’re making it sound like she (or someone) is pocketing bribes in exchange for access.

Hillary bad. That clear enough?/

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Jebediah, RBG Aug 27, 2016 • 1:10:38pm

re: #213 Nyet

This doctor is just another confirmation of my pet ontological theory that we’re all stuck in a cheap 1980s B-movie.

Which means my life would be one of the “funny” bits that are stuck into the credit roll at the end.

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Joe Bacon Aug 27, 2016 • 2:07:35pm

re: #221 Mattand

Hey, folks:

Got a nice, non-political, Trump-and-Nazi free post for everyone. Heading to San Fran in October to celebrate the big 50 (ugh.) I’ve been doing some research on things to do/areas to avoid while there (not a lot of love for the Tenderloin out there). Anybody got any protips they can spare/share?

Fun fact: I forget who, but I believe I share a b-day with another Lizard.

As always: thanks for the help; thanks for keeping me sane; and never, ever eat raw wombat pirogies.

Also: apologies in advance if I don’t reply/upvote right away. Crazy schedule today.

I celebrated my 60th Birthday last January by taking a trip on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight from Los Angeles to Oakland and then taking the BART to the Sir Francis Drake Hotel. I spent a weekend there and on my Birthday, I had dinner at the House of Prime Rib. Really enjoyed it! It’s the San Francisco version of Lawry’s Prime Rib in Beverly Hills.

I enjoyed taking the trip on Amtrak. I had a roomette and a very nice attendant who brought my meals to the room for me. The menu that you see on Amtrak’s page is limited but they also have special dishes that aren’t on the menu. Going up to Oakland, I had a nice chicken dish with an onion sauce. Coming back they had chicken marsala. If you want to travel on Amtrak, I strongly suggest reserving the roomette. BTW they were also testing a single serve coffee machine in the roomette car I was in. Nice to try a couple different varieties of coffee. Also was nice to have the attendant set up the room for sleeping so I could stretch out.

I also ate at Alioto’s on Fisherman’s Wharf. Alioto’s is another nice place to eat at. Only problem was my birthday weekend collided with Super Bowl week and there were parts of the city off limits for that.

The stay at the Drake was very nice. It’s an old school hotel but the only bone I had to pick with it was the elevators were slow and almost always full. The desk clerks let me know that a lot of people go to the Starlight Room at the top of the Drake which is a very popular nightclub. Because it was my birthday, they offered me tickets to their Sunday Brunch show. There’s something about a couple men in drag singing “Happy Birthday” to you. Almost made me feel like a Republican Congressman or Senator!

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