Trump Crazy-Tweeting Again, Says He'll "Terminate Deal" With Cuba

Trump Crazy-Tweeting Again, Says He’ll “Terminate Deal” With Cuba

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PoliticsNovember 2016 • Views: 52,776

From his throne atop the solid gold toilet in the Trump Tower, our new president-elect whipped out his Android phone this morning and tweeted a threat to “terminate the deal” with Cuba unless they give him a “better deal.”

If Cuba is unwilling to make a better deal for the Cuban people, the Cuban/American people and the U.S. as a whole, I will terminate deal.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2016

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Once again, this dangerous clown is revealing his total ignorance of politics, government or diplomacy. We have a diplomatic thaw with Cuba, not a “deal.” President Obama moved to normalize relations with Cuba, easing sanctions and allowing Americans to travel to Cuba. Describing this as a “deal” shows the severe limits of Trump’s egomaniacal inability to grasp what kind of job he’s taken on; he can only see things in terms of what he knows, what will benefit him and what will damage him. But this far right posturing will only end up damaging both Cuba and the US.

Don’t be surprised if Trump’s idea of a “better deal” involves allowing his companies special privileges to build hotels and do business in Cuba. We’ll soon have a president who runs the country like his personal business.

Also see

How Donald Trump’s Company Violated the United States Embargo Against Cuba

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 11:19:54am

He’s the tough negotiator we need! //

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:20:39am

He’ll bomb the shit out of them.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:20:55am

What deal is Cheeto Benito even blabbering about?

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:21:19am

re: #3 Kragar

Acknowledging they exist.

lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 11:21:44am

Trump is Lando in the Robot Chicken bit about Darth Vader altering the deal, but his supporters think he’s really Trump.

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

This is the same Trump who violated the embargo by attempting to do business with Cuba to build a golf resort. Trump couldn’t care about human rights in Cuba. He’s looking to make a buck for himself. That’s his guiding principles here - how to reduce regulation and taxes and fees and costs to him. If other billionaires benefit, great. If everyone else get stuck with the costs, that’s fine with him too.

And now that he’s bringing in guys who clearly broke the law regarding classified info - Petraeus and Flynn for possible roles in his administration is quite telling. His supporters don’t care. They’ve drank the kool aid.

Oh, and about the “deal.” It’s about normalizing relations with Cuba, which means normal diplomatic relations. You know, how the US deals with former enemies and rivals like Germany, Japan, Russia, China, and Vietnam, etc. The embargo was a failure, but Trump thinks he can get value out of saying he’d do the deal differently (see above - he violated same embargo).

Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 11:23:12am

re: #2 nines09

He’ll bomb the shit out of them.

Curtis Lemay from Wiki:

Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962[edit]
During the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, LeMay clashed again with U.S. President John F. Kennedy and Defense Secretary McNamara, arguing that he should be allowed to bomb nuclear missile sites in Cuba. He opposed the naval blockade and, after the end of the crisis, suggested that Cuba be invaded anyway, even after the Soviets agreed to withdraw their missiles. Kennedy secretly agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey and Italy. Unknown to the US, the Soviet field commanders in Cuba had been given authority to launch nuclear weapons under their control—the only time such authority was delegated by higher command.[30] They had at least twenty nuclear warheads for medium-range R-12 Dvina (NATO Code SS-4 Sandal) ballistic missiles capable of reaching US cities (including Washington), each carrying a one megaton warhead (equivalent to 50 Hiroshima bombs), and nine tactical nuclear missiles. If Soviet officers had launched them, many millions of US citizens could have been killed. The ensuing SAC retaliatory thermonuclear strike would have killed roughly one hundred million Soviet citizens. Kennedy refused LeMay’s requests, however, and the naval blockade was successful.[30]

Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 11:26:12am

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

Curtis Lemay from Wiki:

Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962[edit]
During the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, LeMay clashed again with U.S. President John F. Kennedy and Defense Secretary McNamara, arguing that he should be allowed to bomb nuclear missile sites in Cuba. He opposed the naval blockade and, after the end of the crisis, suggested that Cuba be invaded anyway, even after the Soviets agreed to withdraw their missiles. Kennedy secretly agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey and Italy. Unknown to the US, the Soviet field commanders in Cuba had been given authority to launch nuclear weapons under their control—the only time such authority was delegated by higher command.[30] They had at least twenty nuclear warheads for medium-range R-12 Dvina (NATO Code SS-4 Sandal) ballistic missiles capable of reaching US cities (including Washington), each carrying a one megaton warhead (equivalent to 50 Hiroshima bombs), and nine tactical nuclear missiles. If Soviet officers had launched them, many millions of US citizens could have been killed. The ensuing SAC retaliatory thermonuclear strike would have killed roughly one hundred million Soviet citizens. Kennedy refused LeMay’s requests, however, and the naval blockade was successful.[30]

That would have been extinction for humanity, in all likelihood.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:27:26am

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

I was a kid. Bombs Away LeMay. From everything I read we were at the door with our hand on the doorknob. Imagine that scenario with Trump in charge. Pull the pin, then look for a place to throw.

Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 11:27:27am

re: #3 Kragar

What deal is Cheeto Benito even blabbering about?

I am SOOOO going to use that from now on…

Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 11:27:28am

re: #7 Scottishdragon

That would have been extinction for humanity, in all likelihood.

Yep. If Trump were JFK I never would have been born. Hell, none of us would be around.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 11:29:21am

Trump:
If Secretary of State you wish to be,
answer me these riddles three

Romney: Are all the answers just “Trump”?

Trump: …maybe

— Jesse Singal (@jessesingal) November 28, 2016

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Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:30:59am

More details about The Nazi Ranch in Nebraska

This guy is one of the largest cattle suppliers in the state of NE, so I don’t know if that’s why no-one challenges him but its really sad! pic.twitter.com/s9izlVNBK8

— Hon. Ray Misner (@OnlyRayMisner) November 28, 2016

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and…..

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Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 11:30:59am

re: #8 nines09

I was a kid. Bombs Away LeMay. From everything I read we were at the door with our hand on the doorknob. Imagine that scenario with Trump in charge. Pull the pin, then look for a place to throw.

Check out this hellish contraption from the time period.

At its core, Project Pluto was just a cruise missile. Well, not “just” a cruise missile. It was a cruise missile designed around a nuclear ramjet engine, and the acronym for it should give another big clue about the pants-filling nature of it: SLAM, for Supersonic Low Altitude Missile. That means that this giant, nuclear-powered beast would be screaming around at oh, treetop level or so.

The nuclear ramjet engine at the heart of Project Pluto is key to what made this weapon so horrific. A ramjet is a very simple engine design, with essentially no moving parts. Once the missile was launched with conventional rocket boosters, the air velocity going into the ramjet’s intake would be fast enough to let the engine function, and an essentially unshielded nuclear reactor would heat the air as it entered, where it would expand and be expelled out of the engine’s nozzle, providing both lots of thrust and plenty of radioactive material.

Thanks to the nuclear reactor, the missile could stay aloft almost indefinitely. That means after flying across the Earth to its targets in the Soviet Union, where it would dump its payload of 16+ hydrogen bombs, the missile itself was still good to keep flying. Which allowed for all kinds of extra terror-fun:

…a locomotive-size missile that would travel at near-treetop level at three times the speed of sound, tossing out hydrogen bombs as it roared overhead. Pluto’s designers calculated that its shock wave alone might kill people on the ground. Then there was the problem of fallout. In addition to gamma and neutron radiation from the unshielded reactor, Pluto’s nuclear ramjet would spew fission fragments out in its exhaust as it flew by. (One enterprising weaponeer had a plan to turn an obvious peace-time liability into a wartime asset: he suggested flying the radioactive rocket back and forth over the Soviet Union after it had dropped its bombs.)

This crazy bastard had so many ways to kill you, it was like a death buffet: should I die in the nuclear blasts of the bombs themselves, or just let the shockwave of the overpassing missile kill me? Maybe I’ll just wait for the radiation sickness as this thing circles endlessly overhead, like a colossal demonic robot vulture. It’s so hard to choose!

Timothy Watson Nov 28, 2016 • 11:34:07am

re: #13 Scottishdragon

And here I thought stuff in the Fallout video game series was absurd.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:34:39am

re: #13 Scottishdragon

A million ways to die.

We used to have drills where we put our heads between our knees and under the desk, kissing our asses goodbye. Today we sit and stare at a TV screen or listen to a radio “personality” tell us who to fear or distrust or hate. Still kissing our assses goodbye.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:38:26am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

I’m sure you are aware Google is not up to date even by a year on some street views.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:38:48am

Did anyone tell Cruz they’re going to face pitchforks and torches if they try to keep those promises? @TPM

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 28, 2016

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sauceruney Nov 28, 2016 • 11:39:06am

If we think he’s crazy now, just wait till terrorists start targeting his properties and merchandise at stores around the globe.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:40:07am

re: #16 nines09

I’m sure you are aware Google is not up to date even by a year on some street views.

Yes. Your point being?

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:40:44am

re: #18 sauceruney

“An attack on Trump is an attack on….fuck it. Bomb them.”

Franklin Nov 28, 2016 • 11:41:12am

re: #16 nines09

I’m sure you are aware Google is not up to date even by a year on some street views.

I think the point of the G Maps pic was to show the location, not an insinuation that the flags aren’t really there.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:41:15am

re: #19 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t sure of point. It exists?

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:41:45am

re: #21 Franklin

Yes.

Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 11:42:07am

re: #14 Timothy Watson

And here I thought stuff in the Fallout video game series was absurd.

Missiles from the late 50’s and early 60’s were fucking nuts. The SM-64 Navajo, the SM-62 Snark, the BANSHEE…and the AGM-28 Hound dog.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:42:31am

re: #21 Franklin

I think the point of the G Maps pic was to show the location, not an insinuation that the flags aren’t really there.

Bingo.

jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:42:41am

Trump promised to bring back coal. Now some worry ACA repeal to take away miners’ black lung benefits https://t.co/GH3cihob92 via @statnews

— Gideon Gil (@GideonGil) November 28, 2016

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I’m sorry if this is coming as a surprise.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:43:55am

re: #25 Dr. Matt

I have no doubt it’s a real place.

gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 11:44:21am

@funder @KirstinElaine1 @dcexaminer pic.twitter.com/e767bd80Kg

— Derringer (@ladiesgun) November 28, 2016

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BlueGrl21 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:45:53am

I guess now that he’s PEOTUS no one is allowed to take his phone away again.

This is going to be fabulous.

Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 11:46:00am

re: #26 jaunte

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I’m sorry if this is coming as a surprise.

Well, I mean, what would be the point otherwise?

We're Way Beyond Snark Nov 28, 2016 • 11:46:16am

re: #26 jaunte

What can you say? Such a pity — but you should have read the fine print before you bought it.

darthstar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:46:50am

“If you don’t feed them, they can eat you.” Scientists explore the impact of fiber deprivation on gut bacteria: https://t.co/VmbvXd9Umo pic.twitter.com/aEMeyGwWas

— Michigan Health Lab (@MHealthLab) November 17, 2016

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Eat healthy. Drop big doopers. Keep your colon happy. #LiveLonger https://t.co/dKpFbMa2XZ

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 28, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:47:28am

“Yes, we agree that you have black lung. But can you positively prove it was your years in the coal mines that caused it?”

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:48:11am

re: #26 jaunte

“I want to screw them other people. You know. Because.”
Well you can Make America Great Again! Just get in line behind them other people.

jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:48:33am

Child miners won’t show the ill effects of coal dust until much later in life.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:49:40am

re: #27 nines09

I have no doubt it’s a real place.

You’re suppose to be able to read my mind so you know the intent of my ‘private’ section! Geez

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darthstar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:50:06am

re: #26 jaunte

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I’m sorry if this is coming as a surprise.

Except he’s already backed off from ACA repeal…just as he has from building the wall and prosecuting Hillary for imaginary crimes.

And NPR (!) this morning reported that international growth has been revised upward from 2.9% to 3.3% based on his post-win comments about adding $1 Trillion in infrastructure spending.

It may turn out the guy can’t even destroy the planet right. How fucked up would that be?

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 28, 2016 • 11:50:51am

re: #26 jaunte

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I’m sorry if this is coming as a surprise.

Ya know, I’ve pretty much run out of sympathy for the fucking morons who voted for a guy who says he’s gonna take away their health insurance, and now they worry they’re gonna lose their health insurance.

Remember how much he loved that ‘Snake’ thing? Turns out he was warning his supporters about himself.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:51:00am

re: #36 Dr. Matt

You’re suppose to be able to read my mind so you know the intent of my ‘private’ section! Geez

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I’m lucky some days to get my remaining brain cells to hold hands.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:51:20am

re: #26 jaunte

Trump promised to bring back coal. Now some worry ACA repeal to take away miners’ black lung benefits statnews.com via @statnews
— Gideon Gil (@GideonGil) November 28, 2016

ACA also provides free annual lung cancer screening to high risk individuals. I hope the coal miners are pleased with their vote choice.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:21am

Dear coal miners:

Trump doesn’t give a shit about you.

Good luck with the Black Lung and mine safety deregulations.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 28, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:29am

Maybe all the Republicans who campaigned on eliminating Obamacare will be satisfied by changing the name.

wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:42am

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

Ya know, I’ve pretty much run out of sympathy for the fucking morons who voted for a guy who says he’s gonna take away their health insurance, and now they worry they’re gonna lose their health insurance.

Remember how much he loved that ‘Snake’ thing? Turns out he was warning his supporters about himself.

I still feel sorry for those who are married to those fucking morons and the offspring they’ve made. Also, you know, morons. They don’t deserve to be lied to and fooled.

jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:43am

“Patriot Eagle Homeland Care.”

lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:57am

re: #37 darthstar

Except he’s already backed off from ACA repeal…just as he has from building the wall and prosecuting Hillary for imaginary crimes.

And NPR (!) this morning reported that international growth has been revised upward from 2.9% to 3.3% based on his post-win comments about adding $1 Trillion in infrastructure spending.

It may turn out the guy can’t even destroy the planet right. How fucked up would that be?

Except the $1T infrastructure spending is vaporware too. There isn’t a plan and the GOP isn’t about to plunk down more on infrastructure spending into a good economy any more than what they were willing to do when the economy was falling apart in 2008/2009 (when they savaged the ARRA of 2009 for spending on shovel ready projects, which totaled $108 billion all told over a period of several years). There’s absolutely no reason to trust Trump about how much he’s spending (or on what).

gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 11:53:57am

The state of current journalism? Today’s cartoon by Latif Fityani: https://t.co/hK8WclKJiT pic.twitter.com/SaWjbUJS9T

— The Cartoon Movement (@cartoonmovement) November 15, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 11:54:15am

“Minuteman Vigor Extension.”

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:54:26am

re: #40 Dr. Matt

They voted for a governor that promised to destroy KYNECT. They then voted Trump to ensure that. I have no sympathy for them. The others who will suffer from their ignorance are the ones I feel sorry about.

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 28, 2016 • 11:55:23am

re: #43 wrenchwench

I still feel sorry for those who are married to those fucking morons and the offspring they’ve made. Also, you know, morons. They don’t deserve to be lied to and fooled.

Based on the numbers, their spouses are just as guilty.

Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 11:56:06am

Steve Bannon on excluding African Americans from voting:

“Maybe that’s not such a bad thing.”https://t.co/L4zbY8X2rN pic.twitter.com/4yTpY8hK8e

— Tim Hogan (@timjhogan) November 28, 2016

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 11:57:05am

Leonard Cohen, 1934-2016. (Cartoons by Niels Bo Bojesen, Ramses Izquierdo & @rodriguezmonos) pic.twitter.com/1xAqJkC1BK

— The Cartoon Movement (@cartoonmovement) November 11, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 11:57:09am

re: #49 Blind Frog Belly White

Based on the numbers, their spouses are just as guilty.

And also do not deserve to be lied to and fooled. Are they guilty of being morons? Moronity happens.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 11:57:19am

So rather than vote to stop him, he resigns so a Trump supporter can be named? Fuck you, you chickenshit MFerhttps://t.co/U7qlljf9WB

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 28, 2016

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 11:57:43am

I have a nightmare. Today’s cartoon by Tomas: https://t.co/a4ChYE3OIK pic.twitter.com/dR4bvGARsM

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 11:57:49am

re: #43 wrenchwench

I’m surrounded by those. Would not know truth if it had teeth and bit them. Oblivious.

Jack Burton Nov 28, 2016 • 11:58:31am

re: #24 Scottishdragon

Missiles from the late 50’s and early 60’s were fucking nuts. The SM-64 Navajo, the SM-62 Snark, the BANSHEE…and the AGM-28 Hound dog.

I think this was the most absurd. The ~~Fat Man From Fallout~~Davy Crockett.

M388 Davy Crockett Operational Test

makeitstop Nov 28, 2016 • 11:58:40am

re: #45 lawhawk

Except the $1T infrastructure spending is vaporware too. There isn’t a plan and the GOP isn’t about to plunk down more on infrastructure spending into a good economy any more than what they were willing to do when the economy was falling apart in 2008/2009 (when they savaged the ARRA of 2009 for spending on shovel ready projects, which totaled $108 billion all told over a period of several years). There’s absolutely no reason to trust Trump about how much he’s spending (or on what).

His ‘infrastructure spending’ was revealed to be tax breaks to construction companies, wasn’t it?

People are really gonna be surprised when there are all these new roads and bridges, and they’re gonna have to pay to drive on them.

These idiots who voted for Trump are gonna get royally fleeced. I’m having a really hard time working up any sympathy, though.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 11:59:14am

re: #48 nines09

They voted for a governor that promised to destroy KYNECT. They then voted Trump to ensure that. I have no sympathy for them. The others who will suffer from their ignorance are the ones I feel sorry about.

They also voted on November 8 to flip the House in the General Assembly from D to R, pretty much guaranteeing that Bevin’s plan to burn down the state will be successful.

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 28, 2016 • 11:59:22am

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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“That’s different. She’s family.”

That perfectly exemplifies the “One Of The Good Ones” racism. Group X is all bad, except this member of X, whom I know personally. He/She is ‘one of the good ones’. The fact that all the members of X whom they know are ‘one of the good ones’ never causes them to rethink their judgement of X.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 11:59:31am

re: #48 nines09

They voted for a governor that promised to destroy KYNECT. They then voted Trump to ensure that. I have no sympathy for them. The others who will suffer from their ignorance are the ones I feel sorry about.

Yup. My “bleeding heart liberal empathy” is dried up. Republican voters need to suffer for real over their vote.

Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 12:00:35pm

Steve Bannon on excluding African Americans from voting:

“Maybe that’s not such a bad thing.”https://t.co/L4zbY8X2rN pic.twitter.com/4yTpY8hK8e

— Tim Hogan (@timjhogan) November 28, 2016

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Tell me again how it’s unfair to refer to Bannon as a white nationalist? https://t.co/6SMMhGjw6C

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) November 28, 2016

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Yes, but that’s not “white nationalism” he’s espousing here - it’s straight up white supremacism. @JoyAnnReid https://t.co/mcmWspCsO1

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 12:00:46pm

re: #55 nines09

I’m surrounded by those. Would not know truth if it had teeth and bit them. Oblivious.

I’m related to some. Their IQs have tested higher than mine. Meanest little shits you ever met. Politically liberal, but not ‘people-persons’. Haters of those they feel superior to.

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 28, 2016 • 12:01:20pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

And also do not deserve to be lied to and fooled. Are they guilty of being morons? Moronity happens.

They’re not literal morons (IQ = 50-71). They were perfectly capable of making better judgements than they did.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 12:01:28pm

re: #60 Dr. Matt

I’m cheering for floods, blizzards, tornadoes, and hurricanes for the next 4 years.

/half

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 12:02:05pm

“Insulting and Dangerous” pretty much sums up what to expect from the Trump White House @anamariecox

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 28, 2016

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:02:11pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know. Pennsylvania handed it over to the Republicans to do whatever they wish.

gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 12:02:21pm

Our newsroom is of course full of Trump cartoons. These our some of our favorites. Visit our newsroom for many more: https://t.co/SCyJjOqpZt pic.twitter.com/koQJiogs1q

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 12:03:34pm

If you think white people are “genetically superior” that’s white supremacism, by definition. @JoyAnnReid

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 12:03:59pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Bannon talked about “genetic superiority of some people”. The dumbest people on earth providing commentary about topics they know nothing about.

petesh Nov 28, 2016 • 12:05:00pm

re: #64 Kragar

I’m cheering for floods, blizzards, tornadoes, and hurricanes for the next 4 years.

/half

I expect to see them, certainly. Unless the Weather Channel is censored.

Belafon Nov 28, 2016 • 12:05:46pm

If it wasn’t for the 25% of the population that voted for Clinton, and their underage children, I really wouldn’t mind these people getting what they voted for.

lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 12:05:49pm

re: #56 Jack Burton

Either that or the short range nuclear bombs that the USAF flew for a while, which required the pilot to engage in what was known as the Idiot’s loop to avoid being cooked by the fireball:

Boeing B-47 Stratojet (Low Altitude Bombing System) LABS Maneuver

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:06:46pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

Yes. I know the full spectrum. I don’t look down on anybody except mean and nasty. Being stupid isn’t always yours to fix. But you don’t have to be mean. Far too many self described religious folks around me are anything like who they say they admire. Seen that all my life.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 12:06:57pm

he really is balding:

@fastpathguru He inherited the cattle ranch from father, he is middle age and also puts out a White Power Newspaper in the town.

— Hon. Ray Misner (@OnlyRayMisner) November 28, 2016

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screenshot:

HappyWarrior Nov 28, 2016 • 12:07:15pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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He’s an outright racist which should surprise no one who actually has seen what he put on Breitbart.

sagehen Nov 28, 2016 • 12:07:24pm

re: #69 Dr. Matt

Bannon talked about “genetic superiority of some people”. The dumbest people on earth providing commentary about topics they know nothing about.

And of course, if they honestly and truly believed that SAT scores and academic achievement were in any way indicative of superiority and fitness to lead… they’d all be bowing down and begging Jews and East Asians to rule them.

Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 12:08:11pm

What could go wrong (1961 Goldsboro, NC B-52 crash):

en.wikipedia.org

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:08:34pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump can only swim by doing the sidestroke. Needs his other hand to hold hair to head.

wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 12:09:09pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re not literal morons (IQ = 50-71). They were perfectly capable of making better judgements than they did.

Aren’t we all?

They’ve been given political reasons to hang on to their racism. They feel victorious at having elected one of their own. They took what I would consider a way-wrong turn at some point in the past. That does not mean they can never have sympathy again. They need to see the error of their ways, but increased suffering might not do it.

electrotek Nov 28, 2016 • 12:09:18pm

So what’s the news on the Ohio State suspect? I have been out since I’ve been slammed with work and haven’t been able to catch up.

Kragar Nov 28, 2016 • 12:09:52pm

re: #80 electrotek

Still dead

Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 12:12:38pm

New: Donald Trump’s Pants on Fire claim that millions of illegal votes cost him popular vote victory https://t.co/OTWgZHAM3I pic.twitter.com/shnEnWh1yR

— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) November 28, 2016

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Yes, he’s simply parroting a conspiracy theory he picked up at Infowars. https://t.co/d4VYe7bFSF https://t.co/O0haumVNRn

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 12:12:39pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

Oh great, this wingnut Nazi wannabe is only a few miles from me in the next county to the northeast - the only good thing about that (if there is a good thing) is no roads to the north of my town are paved with anything but sand. It’s about a hundred twenty mile drive to get to me on paved roads from his ranch.

Who the hell flies Confederate flags in Nebraska? (Well, there is also the wingnut in our county seat that flies one from his house, so I guess it is more common than I might have imagined. I just thought that guy was a Dixie transplant, but maybe not.)

If this is really common here in the Panhandle, that might explain why I am the only liberal in office here.

electrotek Nov 28, 2016 • 12:13:10pm

re: #81 Kragar

As long as he’s the only one dead, thank God for that.

Hoping he wasn’t a student there.

gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 12:14:56pm

In today’s cartoon, Dino suggests new warning signs need to be put in place around the White House: https://t.co/U8jfWwnkyx #TrumpPresident pic.twitter.com/sRo0Keuh72

— The Cartoon Movement (@cartoonmovement) November 10, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 12:15:17pm

re: #84 electrotek

As long as he’s the only one dead, thank God for that.

Hoping he wasn’t a student there.

Apparently he was a student.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 12:17:53pm

re: #83 Anymouse

Who the hell flies Confederate flags in Nebraska? (Well, there is also the wingnut in our county seat that flies one from his house, so I guess it is more common than I might have imagined. I just thought that guy was a Dixie transplant, but maybe not.)

He seems obsessed siding with Nations defeated by the US of A. Where is his Japanese, Iraqi, and Spanish flags?

gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 12:19:43pm

A estas alturas esta puede ser una buena imagen para resumir la relación entre Trump y el Partido Republicano. Vía @cartoonmovement pic.twitter.com/an40vJHg01

— elOrdenMundial S.XXI (@elOrdenMundial) October 20, 2016

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electrotek Nov 28, 2016 • 12:20:02pm

re: #87 Dr. Matt

He seems obsessed siding with Nations defeated by the US of A. Where is his Japanese, Iraqi, and Spanish flags?

Chalk it up to ignorance (because many of them are absolutely clueless), but I’ve seen idiots in the automotive community sport Imperial Japanese flags from their modified Japanese vehicles. I had to approach them and instead of calling them idiots, had to educate them on the significance of the flag and how deeply offensive it is not just for Chinese and Koreans, but also for World War 2 veterans who fought in the Pacific theater. Whether they take it off or keep it on, that’s up to them. I did my part in educating them and that’s all I can really do.

Interesting Times Nov 28, 2016 • 12:21:44pm

Let’s stop obsessing over who’ll be Secretary of State. We don’t need one. Our Twitterer-in-Chief can set foreign policy in 140 characters. https://t.co/mI79BOaiGB

— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 12:21:51pm

re: #33 jaunte

“Yes, we agree that you have black lung. But can you positively prove it was your years in the coal mines that caused it?”

“Well, if you hadn’t had Obamacare to begin with, you wouldn’t be losing it now. So it’s Obama’s and Obamacare’s fault you’re losing your Obamacare health coverage.”

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:22:01pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

If if were only the Republican Party……

Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

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I’m almost starting to think he didn’t really have someone in mind for SoS all this time.

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 12:22:50pm

Alex Jones Issues Dire Warning To Trump: [Romney] May Try And Kill You

And Alex Jones knows he has Trump’s ears.

Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 12:23:35pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Alex Jones Issues Dire Warning To Trump: [Romney] May Try And Kill You

And Alex Jones knows he has Trumps ears.

Didn’t Romney already meet with Trump? He could have tried then. Still, good to be on the lookout.

nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:23:45pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Alex Jones Issues Dire Warning To Trump: [Romney] May Try And Kill You

And Alex Jones knows he has Trumps ears.

(small voice)….”Because that’s what Mormons do……”

Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 12:30:18pm

Initiate Drump twitter shitstorm in 5…4…3…

Police: Ohio State University Attacker Was Somali Refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan

Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 12:31:59pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Alex Jones Issues Dire Warning To Trump: [Romney] May Try And Kill You

And Alex Jones knows he has Trump’s ears.

Not gonna click. Did he claim that someone overheard Romney say “I’m gonna give Trump a ride on the top of the car”?

lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 12:32:09pm

re: #83 Anymouse

Patriots. That’s who.

Patriots who believe in the virtue of the Confederacy.

You know, secessionists. Insurrectionists. Enemies of the Union.

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 12:32:24pm

re: #89 electrotek

Chalk it up to ignorance (because many of them are absolutely clueless), but I’ve seen idiots in the automotive community sport Imperial Japanese flags from their modified Japanese vehicles. I had to approach them and instead of calling them idiots, had to educate them on the significance of the flag and how deeply offensive it is not just for Chinese and Koreans, but also for World War 2 veterans who fought in the Pacific theater. Whether they take it off or keep it on, that’s up to them. I did my part in educating them and that’s all I can really do.

I guess if I ran into that guy from Gordon, I doubt he would be interested in my family fleeing Poland just before it was invaded.

If he wasn’t just a straight up Holocaust denier, that is.

That leads me back to getting shot down here when I corrected someone who used Richard Spencer’s term “alt-right”:

~~alt-right~~ nope
~~race realists / racialists~~ nope
~~white separatists / white supremacists~~ nope
Nazis

Every time I see one of those slashed out terms I will replace it with Nazis unless someone kicks me off Little Green Footballs. The country elected Nazis, not some “alt-right.” One of the means of controlling the narrative (propaganda) is shifting the definition of terms (see “pro-life”).

As for the Nazi in Gordon, that gives me a very good reason not to go there or spend a single penny of my money there.

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 12:34:16pm

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Initiate Drump twitter shitstorm in 5…4…3…

Police: Ohio State University Attacker Was Somali Refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan

Oh great…..

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Belafon Nov 28, 2016 • 12:44:17pm

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Initiate Drump twitter shitstorm in 5…4…3…

Police: Ohio State University Attacker Was Somali Refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan

They might be conflicted since Somalia is the country they most admire in terms of the way the government works.

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 28, 2016 • 12:44:20pm

re: #37 darthstar

Except he’s already backed off from ACA repeal…just as he has from building the wall and prosecuting Hillary for imaginary crimes.

And NPR (!) this morning reported that international growth has been revised upward from 2.9% to 3.3% based on his post-win comments about adding $1 Trillion in infrastructure spending.

It may turn out the guy can’t even destroy the planet right. How fucked up would that be?

We’re also going under the assumption that the GOP House and Senate is a unified body with little dissent in most of these scenarios.

Take the ACA, for example. Will they be able to actually produce a so-called “repeal” when it’s clear that they can’t come to a consensus on what’s going to be in the repeal? Because some of them are going to want a replacement, some a rebadging as “TrumpCare” and others just want to push Granny over the cliff… and that’s the House alone.

While Trump is going to fire and replace his cabinet posts with impunity at any sign of dissent, he won’t be able to fire anyone in the legislative branch who crosses his path. (And that’s not counting his inevitable screwing over Heritage WRT a judicial picks; what if Trump’s ego demands he installs his sister or someone else for the Supreme Court… thus unveiling another con job?)

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electrotek Nov 28, 2016 • 12:46:34pm

re: #97 Dr. Matt

Fucking Hell, bloody wonderful.

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 12:47:03pm

re: #103 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Actually, the ACA repeal is the one thing the GOP agrees on. It’s the replacement that no one agrees on.

Some want a full repeal. A few want to keep bits and pieces. But there’s no way to completely repeal without pushing millions off insurance that previously didn’t have any insurance at all.

Watch for a phased repeal - curbing the Medicare expansion and then cutting the coverages.

Oh, and in one scenario I’ve seen, the GOP would force everyone who is uninsured into buying insurance (the opposite of personal responsibility and individual mandate), so as to avoid what they think is the ACA going into a death spiral.

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 12:47:12pm

I remember watching this on ABC on a saturday afternoon when I was a kid. No Pay Per View bullshit.

Take a trip back to the 2nd meeting of @SugarRayLeonard and @robertoduranbox. https://t.co/YfY3RXXFPA pic.twitter.com/78bXavMpd7

— The Undefeated (@TheUndefeated) November 28, 2016

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Franklin Nov 28, 2016 • 12:50:28pm

Charles…script idea to put in the “Fun” section. A form field to compose tweets and have a random double+chin Trump picture embed.

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 12:52:34pm

This represents the 2016 elections & the media’s response perfectly. pic.twitter.com/JUH6AWJCKT

— Brasilmagic (@Brasilmagic) November 28, 2016

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 28, 2016 • 12:54:54pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

Aren’t we all?

They’ve been given political reasons to hang on to their racism. They feel victorious at having elected one of their own. They took what I would consider a way-wrong turn at some point in the past. That does not mean they can never have sympathy again. They need to see the error of their ways, but increased suffering might not do it.

We’ve seen this script before. They will blame the Jews, the blacks, the Chinese and the Mexicans

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 12:55:06pm

I hope my fellow Lizards were able to find something to enjoy and take their mind off of things over the past week, whether it was family or the holidays or just a movie or some other fun distraction.

We enjoyed a surprise (to me) Thanksgiving potluck out in the middle of nowhere, with 200-300 other people. There was a lovely no-politics-in-the-pool rule. I found a cross stitch kit that I’ve wanted that’s been out of print (and I hadn’t wanted to pay eBay prices for). We got to see snow!

…we got to sit in traffic caused by snow. Thanks Caltrans for not bothering to accurately update your road conditions website. I-80 was only closed and you neglected to mention it. A small thing, really.

And I ran 5 miles yesterday and 10 miles today because training waits for no one.

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Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 12:55:58pm

@Brasilmagic What’s the point of having rules like the Hatch Act if no one’s going to be investigated when it’s violated?

— HesNotMyPresident (@ZanetaGAdme) November 28, 2016

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 12:56:33pm

re: #108 gocart mozart

The Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev match wasn’t the only fix in November was it?

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 1:00:15pm

As I noted during the campaign season, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight noted my House district was the most likely to go for Mr. Trump (and we did, about 95% of the vote here).

I guess Mr. Trump winning the election let folk like that rancher in Gordon let their freak flags fly.

I may need to start a Little Green Fundme account to get me and my wife the hell out of here.

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Belafon Nov 28, 2016 • 1:00:40pm

re: #111 Scottishdragon

When I talked to my coworker about Trump, his response was “hopefully the checks and balances will keep him from doing anything damaging.” I was left thinking what if the checkers don’t want to do their job.

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Big Beautiful Door Nov 28, 2016 • 1:00:48pm

re: #103 Myron Falwell (no relation)

We’re also going under the assumption that the GOP House and Senate is a unified body with little dissent in most of these scenarios.

Take the ACA, for example. Will they be able to actually produce a so-called “repeal” when it’s clear that they can’t come to a consensus on what’s going to be in the repeal? Because some of them are going to want a replacement, some a rebadging as “TrumpCare” and others just want to push Granny over the cliff… and that’s the House alone.

While Trump is going to fire and replace his cabinet posts with impunity at any sign of dissent, he won’t be able to fire anyone in the legislative branch who crosses his path. (And that’s not counting his inevitable screwing over Heritage WRT a judicial picks; what if Trump’s ego demands he installs his sister or someone else for the Supreme Court… thus unveiling another con job?)

A twilight zone existence for the ACA, in which the GOP keeps wanting to repeal it but its warring factions can’t agree on how, will be a disaster. The uncertainty will drive insurers away from the exchanges, hurt enrollment and cause higher insurance premiums. Though if the subsidies continue to exist, that will limit the damage since the subsidies make millions of subscribers possible.

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:01:22pm

Automatic blocking function: activated. pic.twitter.com/tZBydHSVUD

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 1:02:32pm

The part where Trump tweeted about voter fraud in New Hampshire was also parroted by Chris Sununu, the in-coming governor. People like Al “shoot her for treason” Baldasaro were claiming that busloads of college kids were coming into NH to vote for Hillary. Of course, it was entirely untrue, but this is just what they do.

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Stanley Sea Nov 28, 2016 • 1:05:28pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

Now all three states that Pres-elect Trump claims had experienced “serious voter fraud” have come out with stmts denying that allegation —> pic.twitter.com/hGiiEsJBiJ

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) November 28, 2016

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unproven innocence Nov 28, 2016 • 1:05:35pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

EULA was way too short to be credible: [snip] By using my tweets, you agree to the following: [snip]

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 1:05:59pm

The media is an easy scapegoat, but that’s just bullshit. Maybe try running a candidate who isn’t fatally flawed next time.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 28, 2016

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Fatally flawed! What would you call candidate “grab her by the pussy”? Racist who berates POWs/Gold Star families & mocks disabled? Dreamy? https://t.co/ZOsgPlNHFP

— Only4RM (@Only4RM) November 28, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:06:42pm

re: #110 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And I ran 5 miles yesterday and 10 miles today because training waits for no one.

I did 11 laps yesterday. It was so windy, I felt a major change in my aerodynamics when I zipped up my jacket. Then, last night it snowed.

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 1:07:26pm

So, you skipped over the bit about how he illegally gave classified info to his girlfriend in violation of fed law. Nice @realDonaldTrump

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 1:08:23pm

re: #122 lawhawk

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Lidane Nov 28, 2016 • 1:08:26pm

*headdesk*

Roger Stone: InfoWars Is ‘Far More Credible’ Than CNN https://t.co/LNHTOrwODJ (AUDIO) pic.twitter.com/qb8KgaEPVy

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 1:08:51pm

re: #120 Anymouse

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I was wondering who p*ssed in Olivia’s corn flakes this morning.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 1:09:11pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

I did 11 laps yesterday. It was so windy, I felt a major change in my aerodynamics when I zipped up my jacket. Then, last night it snowed.

…I wore something other than a tank top today? (Short sleeves!)

About two more weeks and it’ll be a month out from the half. Pretty solidly on track to finish in under 3 hours. Under 2:45 is going to be trickier but maybe it’s possible. >.>

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:09:34pm

Just met with General Petraeus—was very impressed!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2016

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I’m so old I remember Trump saying Hillary must be jailed for improper handling of classified info @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/EtL7pmolPM

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 1:10:02pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

The part where Trump tweeted about voter fraud in New Hampshire was also parroted by Chris Sununu, the in-coming governor. People like Al “shoot her for treason” Baldasaro were claiming that busloads of college kids were coming into NH to vote for Hillary. Of course, it was entirely untrue, but this is just what they do.

Another Sununu is becoming governor of NH? Geeze.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 1:11:45pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Well yeah, she’s a woman so it’s a high crime and misdemeanor.

He’s a man, so it was just a little bit of mistaken pillow talk. Nothing to see here.

///

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 1:12:05pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Trump’s Lock Her Up call was pretty much his entire campaign. Now I guess it’s OK.

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 1:12:35pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

So, you skipped over the bit about how he illegally gave classified info to his girlfriend in violation of fed law. Nice @realDonaldTrump

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 28, 2016

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His short term memory isn’t so bigly. Or good. He doesn’t remember that he was calling for Clinton to be jailed for improperly handling classified info.

Petraeus gave his girlfriend classified info. That’s info getting into the wrong hands.

No evidence any classified info Clinton had fell into wrong hands. No evidence she actually mishandled classified info either - and there’s evidence some of the emails were improperly categorized as classified when they weren’t. Lacking headers indicating that they were classified.

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 1:13:56pm

re: #131 lawhawk

Maybe the press or media or someone of some import in the news services will dig a little deeper into just how………nevermind…

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:14:21pm

@thejoncrook If you want to read their hateful crap, be my guest. I don’t.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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scottslemmons Nov 28, 2016 • 1:14:53pm

OT — except maybe not — but there’s a nice article on tor.com about Dolores Umbridge and what happens when evil people gain power.

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 1:16:46pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

“Yeah. I know the dog bit 5 other people. But I’ll have him around my kids. That’ll calm him down. They love dogs. They love to give them kisses and hugs.”

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:17:55pm

tfw people keep tagging you in exchanges with a right wing loon you blocked two days ago, even after you ask to be dropped.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 1:20:12pm

I wish…. people…. didn’t keep trying to throw the deplorables into the briar patch.

I don’t understand what he’s trying to say. They seem to be happy to roll around in the “briar patch” without anyone’s help.

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 1:20:23pm

Just met with General Petraeus—was very impressed!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2016

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Hillary does it — “lock her up.” Gen Petraeus does it — CABINET POST! No. https://t.co/GpsbH1JO3F

— Doug Stafford (@dougstafford) November 28, 2016

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Top adviser to Rand Paul, pivotal vote on the Senate committee that will screen sec state nominee >> https://t.co/vLctqBLlrB

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 28, 2016

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Trump twits will think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with Trump’s pick.

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Arkansawyer Nov 28, 2016 • 1:21:24pm

re: #134 scottslemmons

She’s the inspiration for my hypothetical band name: Little Pink Fascist

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:21:46pm

Pedantic Twitter is always my least favorite Twitter.

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:23:01pm

re: #137 jaunte

I don’t understand what he’s trying to say. They seem to be happy to roll around in the “briar patch” without anyone’s help.

They wanted out of the basket. Getting crowded.

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 1:24:53pm

I hiked and traveled around this area earlier this year. Now, they’re dealing with serious wildfires that have closed the main East-West road between NC and TN:

More problems for firefighters at Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Vol. evacuation of Gatlinburg neighborhood.https://t.co/frI4dbwJu2 pic.twitter.com/NamRInacs0

— Nat’l Parks Traveler (@ParksTraveler) November 28, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:27:03pm

This guy must believe in the afterlife - riding no hands on Venice Blvd with noise-canceling headphones pic.twitter.com/SvCzMcteOV

— Peter Flax (@Pflax1) November 28, 2016

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KGxvi Nov 28, 2016 • 1:28:38pm

I wonder what Trump means by a better deal with Cuba? Foreign policy isn’t something that the average person really understands. That is why people freak out over the statement that Obama released following Castro’s death. They don’t understand (or want to understand) that when the president speaks, he’s not speaking for just himself, he is speaking for the United States of America. What he says will be heard not only here but across the world. While Castro was a murderous dictator, saying so in a statement after his death does no good. What the president says and does in the context of foreign policy must be weighed by a series of very simple questions with very complex answers:

What are the current strategic interests of the United States? How does the stated action promote said strategic interests? And what are the short term and long term ramifications of the actions?

It’s easy to criticize someone when you don’t bear that responsibility. It’s why Reagan sent a delegation to Moscow for Brezhnev’s funeral headed by the Vice President, Secretary of State, and head of the CIA. Because diplomacy matters. And if you can’t think beyond “I don’t like him” then you’re going to put the world in a lot of hurt.

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KGxvi Nov 28, 2016 • 1:30:08pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Pedantic Twitter is always my least favorite Twitter.

Twitter is my least favorite Twitter.

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:34:40pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Pedantic Twitter is always my least favorite Twitter.

Pet-antic Twitter is my favorite Twitter. Also, puns.

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unproven innocence Nov 28, 2016 • 1:36:53pm

“…Says He’ll “Terminate Deal” With Cuba”

That’s the deal whereby the Russians agreed to remove some missles, right? Just asking for a friend. /

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 1:36:57pm

Trump replaces iconic campaign hat for new presidential caphttps://t.co/oUF2zQMF1o pic.twitter.com/jUpgzUTC97

— The Hill (@thehill) November 28, 2016

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And with his IQ on the side https://t.co/jC3iCVOTSb

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) November 28, 2016

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 1:38:32pm

Trump fans are such lovely people. pic.twitter.com/tCAxqVAuH7

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 1:39:13pm

re: #138 lawhawk

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Trump twits will think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with Trump’s pick.

Hurr hurr Libtards hate Patriot Petraeus so it’s OK.

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Belafon Nov 28, 2016 • 1:39:58pm

From the AP’s blog on how to use ‘alt-right’:

“Alt-right” (quotation marks, hyphen and lower case) may be used in quotes or modified as in the “self-described” or “so-called alt-right” in stories discussing what the movement says about itself.

Avoid using the term generically and without definition, however, because it is not well known and the term may exist primarily as a public-relations device to make its supporters’ actual beliefs less clear and more acceptable to a broader audience. In the past we have called such beliefs racist, neo-Nazi or white supremacist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 1:39:59pm

Petraeus on Trump meeting: “He basically walked us around the world, showed a great grasp of a variety of the challenges that are out there” pic.twitter.com/EsqvfuZ7du

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) November 28, 2016

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trump meets with *actual* leaker of national security secrets https://t.co/XmtCT2ejsL

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 28, 2016

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lawhawk Nov 28, 2016 • 1:40:23pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Goes back to the whole idea of normalized relations. We have normalized relations with Russia (and the Soviet Union before that). Why? Because there’s a benefit to having diplomats in contact, even if they’re the enemy, or rival.

The US is normalizing diplomatic relations with Cuba. Doesn’t mean we’re suddenly friends, but it means that diplomats can talk and trade can be developed (as the embargo is being lifted). Doesn’t diminish any of Castro’s actions just as surely as having diplomatic relations with Russia (and former Soviet Union) doesn’t diminish any of the Soviet Union’s harsh repression of Soviet Jewry or minorities, etc.

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William Lewis Nov 28, 2016 • 1:41:01pm

Petraeus sucked up to President Elect Obama too I seem to recall. Wonder if there is any plan other than increasing his retirement account?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 1:42:16pm

re: #145 KGxvi

Twitter is my least favorite Twitter.

I find that I can learn an awful lot from some of the folks I follow on Twitter but my experience is best when I refrain from interacting with people on any hot-button issues.

Or almost any issues, really.

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Stanley Sea Nov 28, 2016 • 1:43:43pm

Trump Tower is lobby is like the most grotesque show on earth now. pic.twitter.com/8e4cWoPoL3

— Schooley (@Rschooley) November 28, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:43:51pm

re: #155 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I find that I can learn an awful lot from some of the folks I follow on Twitter but my experience is best when I refrain from interacting with people on any hot-button issues.

Or almost any issues, really.

“Give it to me straight, Doc.”
“I believe your problems are mostly psychological.”
“What makes you say that?”
“This is a cheese shop.”

— paul bassett davies (@thewritertype) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 1:48:53pm

re: #151 Belafon

From the AP’s blog on how to use ‘alt-right’:

AP vindicates me.

Lemme get another cup of coffee.

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Patricia Kayden Nov 28, 2016 • 1:49:29pm

re: #26 jaunte

I doubt Trump can bring back coal but he certainly will take away their ACA coverage. Sad.

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Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

@Rschooley Equal parts Elvis, Liberace and Hee Haw….

— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) November 28, 2016

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Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 1:50:32pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 1:51:33pm

Donald Trump wins Michigan’s 16 electoral votes, bringing the final electoral tally to Trump 306, Clinton 232 https://t.co/jOauYyVeuX pic.twitter.com/l5yOqfzxGf

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 28, 2016

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306. Landslide. Blowout. Historic. https://t.co/ObYZDo8cBq

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) November 28, 2016

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Actually way below average for a winner’s total:
1984—525
1980—489
1988—426
1996—379
1992—370
2008—365
2012—332
*2016—306*
2004—286
2000—271 https://t.co/C9z8I9jPYZ

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 28, 2016

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Donkey With No Name Nov 28, 2016 • 1:52:38pm

re: #120 Anymouse

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A: “She’s fatally flawed!”
B: “Why?”
A: “Because she’s fatally flawed!”

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 1:53:14pm

The beat up and lowered blue car I saw before the election with ‘Fuck Trump’ scrawled across the trunk has switched it from chalk to electrical tape. In it for the long haul.

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Belafon Nov 28, 2016 • 1:53:56pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

I doubt Trump can bring back coal but he certainly will take away their ACA coverage. Sad.

In 2020 he can run on the platform of lowering your medical costs (repeal ACA) and keeping you healthier (not reopening mines).

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Dr. Matt Nov 28, 2016 • 1:56:26pm

DON’T TWEET THIS PIC!!!

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PhillyPretzel Nov 28, 2016 • 1:57:06pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

Why not? It is perfect. /

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Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 1:57:54pm

Trump tower lobby today:

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Unshaken Defiance Nov 28, 2016 • 1:58:07pm

Brace yourselves Republicans. Dissent is back. #Resist #WhiteRose We will not be cowed by the president elect or his thugs.

— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 1:59:01pm

Total coincidence that this leaked while Petraeus was in Trump Tower https://t.co/iHXruu8vxz pic.twitter.com/xiC2vo8H4w

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) November 28, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 2:00:15pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 2:00:52pm

Somebody is decorating roadkill with paint and glitter in mid-Missouri https://t.co/dT2bXpKhWT pic.twitter.com/rPT8Srdme8

— Elliot Njus (@enjus) November 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 2:01:00pm

re: #120 Anymouse

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Edited: [not Bill Moyers] Neal Gabler has the response:

….The media can’t be let off the hook for enabling an authoritarian to get to the White House. Long before he considered a presidential run, he was a media creation — a regular in the gossip pages, a photo on magazine covers, the bankrupt (morally and otherwise) mogul who hired and fired on The Apprentice. When he ran, the media treated him not as a candidate, but as a celebrity, and so treated him differently from ordinary pols. The media gave him free publicity, trumpeted his shenanigans, blasted out his tweets, allowed him to phone in his interviews, fell into his traps and generally kowtowed until they suddenly discovered that this joke could actually become president….

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 2:01:37pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

You forgot the caption to the photo.

@puppymnkey @solomonosez
He doesn’t have a double chin. He has one giant chin that looks like a scrotum.

— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) November 28, 2016

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lockjawcanbefun Nov 28, 2016 • 2:01:59pm

Fine column by G&M’s @sylviastead about naming racism and intolerance; proof why we have to in Comments that folo. https://t.co/6OfigNqEcy

— Ian Brown (@BrownoftheGlobe) November 28, 2016

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A problem with the word “alt-right” is that it suggests on the surface a mere “alternative” to a right-wing philosophy. But Mr. Spencer’s own description is clear: This is a racist movement.

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 2:03:20pm

To know what to expect from a Trump presidency, one must grasp the driven, contradictory character of Steve Bannon https://t.co/TaxYoxL6yL

— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 28, 2016

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“Driven and contradictory” is the new “Nazi.” @nytimes https://t.co/FfezXZtDLl

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 28, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 2:06:40pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

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Wait, what? Pool report says 2 Naked Cowboys are serenading @KellyannePolls with a “Trump is gonna build a wall” jingle. Need more details.

— Jonathan Weisman (@jonathanweisman) November 28, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 2:08:03pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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there’s video…

Kellyanne Conway serenaded by the naked Cowboys at Trump Tower. https://t.co/V0ivXbryYA

— David Nakamura (@DavidNakamura) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:08:17pm

@JoyAnnReid Reading these comments is disheartening. Folks don’t understand small states won’t have Dem Senators if they aren’t moderate.

— Karin Hildebrand Lau (@Karimala1) November 28, 2016

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If Dems want to win Senate back, they have to allow for rural state moderates. Our states don’t have luxury of voting for coastal-type Dems. https://t.co/shIOGttqig

— Karin Hildebrand Lau (@Karimala1) November 28, 2016

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Agreed, and that’s pretty much what I said after the election:https://t.co/L2da4W4hhV https://t.co/sQOyaCWGaC

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) November 28, 2016

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 2:09:31pm

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016

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Congratulations, America, you’ve turned the presidency into a four-year Alex Jones broadcast. https://t.co/KdG3SEGseC

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) November 27, 2016

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KGxvi Nov 28, 2016 • 2:10:11pm

re: #153 lawhawk

Goes back to the whole idea of normalized relations. We have normalized relations with Russia (and the Soviet Union before that). Why? Because there’s a benefit to having diplomats in contact, even if they’re the enemy, or rival.

The US is normalizing diplomatic relations with Cuba. Doesn’t mean we’re suddenly friends, but it means that diplomats can talk and trade can be developed (as the embargo is being lifted). Doesn’t diminish any of Castro’s actions just as surely as having diplomatic relations with Russia (and former Soviet Union) doesn’t diminish any of the Soviet Union’s harsh repression of Soviet Jewry or minorities, etc.

Absolutely. Older Cubans (including a lot of Boomers like my mom to some degree) are against any sort of normalization because they believe it would mean that he “won.” So we are stuck with a 60 year old policy that has not worked because trying something else might mean Castro wins because reasons. And I get it in a very real way, my grandparents lost everything; they had to send my uncle a year before the rest of the family was able to leave so that, at 12 years old, he wouldn’t be drafted into Castro’s army.

But as I always try to explain - if we don’t even talk to them, how are we going to change anything? Would the world be a better place today, if we never established diplomatic relations with the USSR, China, or Vietnam? Would the lives of the people in those countries be better off without our diplomacy? So, why is it different with Cuba?

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makeitstop Nov 28, 2016 • 2:10:23pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:13:35pm

Manafort is back! He was spotted at Trump Tower this morning. Manafort left the campaign after revelations of his shady dealings in Russia. pic.twitter.com/Px3lwvKiev

— Rafal Hill (@rafalhill) November 22, 2016

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And why the fuck not? I mean, at this point, why the fuck not? https://t.co/Mo4kyQKIzH

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) November 28, 2016

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unproven innocence Nov 28, 2016 • 2:13:57pm

re: #182 makeitstop

Not the least bit tacky, no sir.
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The next hat will be white. And after that, golden.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 28, 2016 • 2:14:14pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

From Yarn-Bombing to Bedazzled Roadkill: The further one gets from the coasts the more metal street art becomes. https://t.co/mHnLL02ycy pic.twitter.com/4Aj6gQ314F

— Franksgiving (@goddamnedfrank) November 28, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 2:14:43pm

re: #183 Anymouse

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As if he ever really left….

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Scottishdragon Nov 28, 2016 • 2:15:10pm

re: #181 KGxvi

My landlord (and friend) used to work with a Cuban emigre whose family lost everything in the revolution.

That person was also the jury foreman here in Greensboro for the KKK/Nazi murder trial after the Greensboro massacre in 1979 of progressive and socialist civil rights marchers who were murdered in broad daylight while police did nothing.

He made damned sure that every klansman and Nazi got acquitted in deliberations as a pay back to ‘communists’.

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nines09 Nov 28, 2016 • 2:15:20pm

re: #184 unproven innocence

With jewels. And golden braids. And a Crest. A Magnificent Crest. Of the finest…..Platinum. And jewels. With gold.

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retired cynic Nov 28, 2016 • 2:16:04pm

I see the Washington Post story about Richard Spencer’s old schoolmates in Texas are repudiating him, and holding fundraisers to help resettle refugees. Good for them!

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt Nov 28, 2016 • 2:16:11pm

re: #84 electrotek

As long as he’s the only one dead, thank God for that.

Hoping he wasn’t a student there.

Don’t know if this has been answered…just getting caught up.

Yes, the guy was a student at Ohio State.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Nov 28, 2016 • 2:16:50pm

re: #44 jaunte

“Patriot Eagle Homeland Care.”

“The War Against Sickness Program”

There. Fixed it for you. Obamacare all nice and packaged up for the deplorables,

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:16:59pm

I’m not on Twitter, but I like following some of the funny posts:

Steve Bannon looks how I feel every time I promise myself I’m never drinking again. pic.twitter.com/ABCgKitmHj

— Gladstone (@WGladstone) November 15, 2016

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Yep. That’s the master race right there. https://t.co/KCgiktWyQn

— James S.A. Corey (@JamesSACorey) November 28, 2016

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Sir John Barron Nov 28, 2016 • 2:17:20pm

re: #183 Anymouse

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Hard to see why he ever left the campaign. It’s not like anyone in the media really cared, or would have continued to care after a few days of reports about Manafort’s Russian ties.

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Romantic Heretic Nov 28, 2016 • 2:19:45pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re not literal morons (IQ = 50-71). They were perfectly capable of making better judgements than they did.

I use Heinlein’s observation to categorize such people: Not stupid, just ignorant and prejudiced by their environment.

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Patricia Kayden Nov 28, 2016 • 2:25:05pm

re: #175 lockjawcanbefun

I’ve seen several Globe and Mail articles which have been very anti-Trump. Kind of surprised because when I lived in Canada, G&M was one of the right-wing newspapers. Looks like things have changed since then. Good.

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:29:29pm

re: #195 Patricia Kayden

I’ve seen several Globe and Mail articles which have been very anti-Trump. Kind of surprised because when I lived in Canada, G&M was one of the right-wing newspapers. Looks like things have changed since then. Good.

Trump wanting to renegotiate or rip up the NAFTA trade agreement would hurt Canada’s economy, plus I imagine Toronto doesn’t want a fascist nation only seventy kilometres away.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 28, 2016 • 2:31:51pm

A 10,000-vote difference! If just 2 Trump voters per precinct had voted the other way we wouldn’t be here. RECOUNT! pic.twitter.com/wVNSnYlPla

— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) November 28, 2016

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Now just imagine if a bunch of smug, more liberal than thou shitwitted purist ideologues hadn’t spent an entire year tearing Clinton down. https://t.co/IZriCDsIpO

— Franksgiving (@goddamnedfrank) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:33:55pm

The tyrant #Castro is dead. New hope dawns. We will stand with the oppressed Cuban people for a free and democratic Cuba. Viva Cuba Libre!

— Mike Pence (@mike_pence) November 26, 2016

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You jailed a woman for having a miscarriage. https://t.co/cD4UUOit2C

— Eleventeenth Doctor (@ShomahKhoobi) November 26, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 2:36:46pm

If you read one thing about Sheriff Clarke, let it be this letter from the Milwaukee District Attorney. https://t.co/WhpS5QPt9H

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) November 25, 2016

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dangerman Nov 28, 2016 • 2:41:25pm

Ive been off since “that night”. Maybe you noticed. Maybe not. ;-(

Anyway for a host of reasons i tuned out. Of everything. No radio. No tv, no news, newspapers, internet, nothing. No analysis no predictions, planning, projections, explanations, preparations. yup. head in the sand. dont wanna know, dont wanna process it. don’t want to think about it. at all. havent even written notes to myself about things i might want to say and understand later.

No idea how im gonna play this out and right now i dont care.

what i do know is i got up wednesday and went running as usual. i still had a tremendous toothache (still do). trees dropped leaves, birds chirped and i had a good run. the world kept turning. Ok, my little life keeps on doing exactly what it did the day before. maybe not yours. if so i’m sorry. that is the way things are. for now this is all and it is enough for me.

Now, to more important topics. Running and all you runners — Klys, WrenchWench, and others; heres an update:

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 2:43:32pm

Donald Trump wins Michigan’s 16 electoral votes, bringing the final electoral tally to Trump 306, Clinton 232 https://t.co/jOauYyVeuX pic.twitter.com/l5yOqfzxGf

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) November 28, 2016

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306. Landslide. Blowout. Historic. https://t.co/ObYZDo8cBq

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) November 28, 2016

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Trump’s 57% of Electoral Votes is 44th best margin out of 57 presidential elections. None of the words you use here apply to that reality. https://t.co/5aNa9sVYFy

— Tom Bonier (@tbonier) November 28, 2016

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Anymouse Nov 28, 2016 • 2:44:59pm

I’m off for a nap. Need my rest to figure out what to do about my local Nazi in Gordon.

Later, folks.

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Birth Control Works Nov 28, 2016 • 2:45:19pm

It’s blustery in my part of the world. Winter is trying.

you?

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Birth Control Works Nov 28, 2016 • 2:46:36pm

re: #200 dangerman

Ive been off since “that night”. Maybe you noticed. Maybe not. ;-(

Anyway for a host of reasons i tuned out. Of everything. No radio. No tv, no news, newspapers, internet, nothing. No analysis no predictions, planning, projections, explanations, preparations. yup. head in the sand. dont wanna know, dont wanna process it. don’t want to think about it. at all. havent even written notes to myself about things i might want to say and understand later.

No idea how im gonna play this out and right now i dont care.

what i do know is i got up wednesday and went running as usual. i still had a tremendous toothache (still do). trees dropped leaves, birds chirped and i had a good run. the world kept turning. Ok, my little life keeps on doing exactly what it did the day before. maybe not yours. if so i’m sorry. that is the way things are. for now this is all and it is enough for me.

Now, to more important topics. Running and all you runners — Klys, WrenchWench, and others; heres an update:

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I think we are on the same page.

apathetic about media and Washington DC.

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Myron Falwell (no relation) Nov 28, 2016 • 2:46:58pm

re: #189 retired cynic

I see the Washington Post story about Richard Spencer’s old schoolmates in Texas are repudiating him, and holding fundraisers to help resettle refugees. Good for them!

washingtonpost.com

Kurt Eichenwald also attended that school, and he minces no words whatsoever.

My high school, which nazi scum Richard spencer attended, is raising $ for Refugees 2 repudiate him. If wish 2 give: https://t.co/e4cjwEMLgK

— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 26, 2016

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Birth Control Works Nov 28, 2016 • 2:47:42pm

re: #198 Anymouse

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Fidel hasn’t been officially in charge for a while now. IIRC.

WTF difference does it make now that he is dead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 2:49:13pm

re: #199 jaunte

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 2:51:00pm

re: #200 dangerman

You have been missed! So glad to see you back. We’re all coping in our own ways.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Nov 28, 2016 • 2:52:05pm

DAMN https://t.co/bO0Bt0EIFL, epic troll on 2016. pic.twitter.com/9fBHSYE1fO

— Tehlor Kay Mejia (@tehlorkay) November 28, 2016

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ObserverArt Nov 28, 2016 • 2:52:54pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Karin Hildebrand Lau @Karimala1

If Dems want to win Senate back, they have to allow for rural state moderates. Our states don’t have luxury of voting for coastal-type Dems.

@JoyAnnReid Reading these comments is disheartening. Folks don’t understand small states won’t have Dem Senators if they aren’t moderate.

— Karin Hildebrand Lau (@Karimala1) November 28, 2016

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12:43 PM - 28 Nov 2016

This is my big fear for the Democratic near future. Bernie has created a want for more left-leaning Democrats and I worry that the party heads right back to what caused them to not come close to sniffing the White House in the 70s and 80s.

There better be room for moderate/centrists or history may just repeat itself.

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 2:53:40pm

ICYMI, my @villagevoice column — A Return to “Normalization”: Rightbloggers Help Numb the Nation to Trump https://t.co/L48XOjtJ0l

— Roy Edroso (@edroso) November 28, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Nov 28, 2016 • 2:57:52pm

The media is an easy scapegoat, but that’s just bullshit. Maybe try running a candidate who isn’t fatally flawed next time.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 28, 2016

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This is a typical bully’s DARVO response to having caused real, lasting & absolutely horrifying damage. Blame the victim for the abuse. https://t.co/qSW3A5J29Z

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) November 28, 2016

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gocart mozart Nov 28, 2016 • 3:02:21pm

@TUSK81 pic.twitter.com/mjZ3ZTPQxf

— Chief’s Wife (@sharondigi) November 26, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 3:04:26pm

‘Hamilton’ Broadway Sales Top $3 Million in Thanksgiving 2016 Week | Variety. (How’s that boycott working out?) https://t.co/pP0EZDIw6z

— Bill Prady (@billprady) November 28, 2016

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MsJ Nov 28, 2016 • 3:05:30pm

re: #35 jaunte

Child miners won’t show the ill effects of coal dust until much later in life.

At which point it’ll be considered a preexisting condition.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 28, 2016 • 3:07:56pm

Actually I was wrong. Hillary was an amazing candidate and her failure to succeed is the fault of everyone except for her and her campaign.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) November 28, 2016

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If there’s one thing America could definitely do with less of it’s this kind of defensive monochromatic sarcastic framing of complex reality https://t.co/h1ht59uNM4

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) November 28, 2016

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Charles Johnson Nov 28, 2016 • 3:08:38pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

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I always love it when the people who trumpet their work as vitally important and influential then proceed to deny it had any influence on anyone.

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 3:12:40pm

As someone pointed out recently, Trump far more energy into making “fat” jokes about Rosie O’Donnell than he has in repudiating his nazi supporters.

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goddamnedfrank Nov 28, 2016 • 3:14:06pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Flailing about & blaming others for your collective failure just smacks of desperate guilty projection and makes us trust you all even less.

— Frank-incensed (@goddamnedfrank) November 28, 2016

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jaunte Nov 28, 2016 • 3:14:27pm

2) This is a longish tweetstorm, so after it is posted, you can more easily read the tweets kanvz’d here: https://t.co/W6DKRtkvGl

— T. R. Ramachandran (@yottapoint) November 28, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 3:16:06pm

This seems pretty important https://t.co/JTbhNmQRhV pic.twitter.com/KxNHBArhRN

— Justin Fox (@foxjust) November 28, 2016

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wrenchwench Nov 28, 2016 • 3:16:18pm

re: #200 dangerman

Ive been off since “that night”. Maybe you noticed. Maybe not. ;-(

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Now, to more important topics. Running and all you runners — Klys, WrenchWench, and others; heres an update:

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Your absence was noticed.

I’ve kept up my half-hour in target-zone twice a week. Still thinking about those mornings. It was snowing when I woke up today. Also thinking about getting off the track and using the streets, but cars are there. We’ll see. There are trails nearby, too, but the nearest ones are on a hill that’s tried to kill me (knocked out on a bike ride, then slipped and fell on the next walk. 5 years ago or so.) Too much rolling debris from when the hill was mined 100 years ago.

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Decatur Deb Nov 28, 2016 • 3:18:10pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

re: #220 jaunte

Don’t blame the media for not doing its job. The job of media news is to sell erectile dysfunction drugs, and they sold a lot of them.

If they claim they have any civic responsibility, they are getting ahead of themselves.

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Skip Intro Nov 28, 2016 • 3:21:19pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

If only the media wasn’t busy setting up their coverage of Santa Claus’ big trip next month they might have been able to fit it in.

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BigBadDemocrat Nov 28, 2016 • 3:22:12pm

Very very discouraged now after the election. Hard enough as it was, but now the fact the Democrats can not find themselves as the cause and only lash out and blame the other voters of the Republicans and even Democrats who just had enough and did not vote and worse some who voted Republican,, it makes me sad and now angry.

Same leadership ideas, same losses growing, lost Senate, lost House, lost states, lost , lost , lost and nothing but request for more money we do not have and work the phone banks asking voters to vote for the same old same old.

Something must change and soon.

Sorry just hard going to night class and working 50 hours a week and this crap is getting me and many others down.

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MsJ Nov 28, 2016 • 3:26:19pm

re: #120 Anymouse

@Olivianuzzi The billions of dollars worth of free advertising for every time trump farted wasn’t the medias fault. Nope. Not at all.

— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) November 28, 2016

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KGxvi Nov 28, 2016 • 3:28:02pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

This is my big fear for the Democratic near future. Bernie has created a want for more left-leaning Democrats and I worry that the party heads right back to what caused them to not come close to sniffing the White House in the 70s and 80s.

There better be room for moderate/centrists or history may just repeat itself.

Unlike the 70s and 80s, there might not be a place for moderate/centrist politicians in either party if the Dems move too far leftward and the GOP continues over the cliff on the right.

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William Lewis Nov 28, 2016 • 3:29:51pm

re: #225 BigBadDemocrat

Sorry just hard going to night class and working 50 hours a week and this crap is getting me and many other down.

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Hang in there and keep on doing what you can where ever you can. If everyone does that, it’ll be enough.

In the meantime find whatever music you like best to hammer the frustration away. For me, right now that’s Iron Maiden’s “Live After Death” at the max my headphones can handle.

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Barefoot Grin Nov 28, 2016 • 3:31:50pm

Quick reminder (maybe just to myself): if you decide to read an online article about the Ohio State attack DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS.

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Birth Control Works Nov 28, 2016 • 3:32:31pm

I JUST made a spreadsheet of the families med/dental/rx expenses for the year so far. I didn’t even try to account for OTC allergy meds.

You don’t want t know what the totals were.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 28, 2016 • 3:38:41pm

Christie holding a news conference tomorrow (!!!!) pic.twitter.com/sqqKUd47q0

— Sal Rizzo (@rizzoTK) November 28, 2016

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Jebediah, RBG Nov 28, 2016 • 3:42:19pm

@Olivianuzzi 1/2 Sarcasm is definitely way, way better than an honest exploration of how the media failed in this election cycle. It’s OK, though, …

— Jebediah Springfield (@JebediahRBG) November 28, 2016

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@Olivianuzzi 2/2 Trump will be a great friend to the media and stalwart defender of the First Amendment.

— Jebediah Springfield (@JebediahRBG) November 28, 2016

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MsJ Nov 28, 2016 • 3:44:59pm

re: #195 Patricia Kayden

I’ve seen several Globe and Mail articles which have been very anti-Trump. Kind of surprised because when I lived in Canada, G&M was one of the right-wing newspapers. Looks like things have changed since then. Good.

The G&M isn’t right wing and, to my knowledge, never was. The Sun is - big time.

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baileylamb Nov 28, 2016 • 3:52:19pm

re: #113 Anymouse

As I noted during the campaign season, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight noted my House district was the most likely to go for Mr. Trump (and we did, about 95% of the vote here).

I guess Mr. Trump winning the election let folk like that rancher in Gordon let their freak flags fly.

I may need to start a Little Green Fundme account to get me and my wife the hell out of here.

How about this. I’ll sale you our house, in Metro Columbus, below market value if all the lizards here help my husband find a job in another country.

I live in a precinct that is usually purple, but this yr it was blue, bc most of the Republicans where I live are sane, and still the all about the time their great great grand daddies served in the Union army.

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Blind Frog Belly White Nov 28, 2016 • 3:52:46pm

re: #226 MsJ

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I wouldn’t say it was ALL the media’s fault, but I also wouldn’t say it was IN NO PART their fault.

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MsJ Nov 28, 2016 • 3:52:59pm

re: #204 Birth Control Works

I think we are on the same page.

apathetic about media and Washington DC.

And I’m right there with both of you. I haven’t watched tv news in any format (local, national, cable) nor do I intend to do so. One less viewer (not that they care). I read U.K. papers and that’s about it.

I won’t have trump’s voice on my tube. I’ll watch bad reality tv reruns before that.

While I care, I don’t give a fuck.

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MsJ Nov 28, 2016 • 4:05:55pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

I wouldn’t say it was ALL the media’s fault, but I also wouldn’t say it was IN NO PART their fault.

I’d say the media aspect is huge. First, treating trump like someone who should be POTUS. Never delving into his lack of…everything.

Then, EMAIL OMG EMAIL!!

Releasing tax returns? No biggie.

Every time he stepped on his own dick (in terms of HOLY FUCK THIS GUY SAID WHAT). No biggie.

Every other normal convention? It’s ok if he breaks it.

Yeah, no responsibility whatsoever.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist) Nov 29, 2016 • 1:19:49am

re: #187 Scottishdragon

My landlord (and friend) used to work with a Cuban emigre whose family lost everything in the revolution.

That person was also the jury foreman here in Greensboro for the KKK/Nazi murder trial after the Greensboro massacre in 1979 of progressive and socialist civil rights marchers who were murdered in broad daylight while police did nothing.

He made damned sure that every klansman and Nazi got acquitted in deliberations as a pay back to ‘communists’.

PM me your friend’s phone number so I can call him and tell him to go fuck himself.

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electrotek Nov 29, 2016 • 7:48:40am

re: #238 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Me too. I’ll tell him to get fucked as well.

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