The Bob Cesca Show: The Typhon Expanse

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

The Typhon Expanse — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The Carter Page FISA application; Trump stupidly conflates Page with his entire campaign; FISA document disproves Nunes report; Jim Jordan and Sarah Sanders lied about the FISA doc; The Steele Dossier hasn’t been discredited; Trump screams at Iran’s president on Twitter; Trump’s obvious attempt to flip the script on Russia collusion; Trump embraces socialism to cover his fuckups; Sacha Baron Cohen destroys another Republican; Billy Joel is out of fucks; and so much more.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:06:52pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:10:30pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:17:51pm

Facebook

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:18:15pm
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:24:43pm

I must admit, I love Kate Mulgrew and have since her days on the soap Ryan’s Hope.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:25:13pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:29:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:31:24pm

re: #6 JordanRules

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:33:25pm

what a great and creative way to showcase dogs for foster/adoption!

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:34:52pm

Interesting article that ran past me: FBI brought down foreign agents in the past

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:35:21pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:36:21pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

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He didn’t write that tweet. No fucking way.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:37:46pm

re: #5 MsJ

I must admit, I love Kate Mulgrew and have since her days on the soap Ryan’s Hope.

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You just reminded me that a new season of “Orange is the new black” drops this week. Yay.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:40:32pm

Read his response in his voice with an extra dollop of unctuous:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:41:22pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:41:32pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:42:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:43:41pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:43:58pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:44:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:45:05pm

Josh rocks the gifs

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:45:49pm

re: #12 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He didn’t write that tweet. No fucking way.

Why not, because it’s too coherent? It perfectly reflects his penchant for abject laughable bullshit and reality reversal.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:45:53pm
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Bubblehead II  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:48:37pm

Got CLed on the last thread.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:49:02pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Why not, because it’s too coherent? It perfectly reflects his penchant for abject laughable bullshit and reality reversal.

The problem with it is that it implies that the Russians favor the Democrats over him. He would never admit that. The Russians are our best buds, remember? Putin is his friend! If there was Russian collusion, it was just to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN by electing Trump!

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:52:36pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:53:29pm

re: #25 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The problem with it is that it implies that the Russians favor the Democrats over him. He would never admit that. The Russians are our best buds, remember? Putin is his friend! If there was Russian collusion, it was just to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN by electing Trump!

He flip flops like that all the time. Reality is very temporary and transactional with him.
Also, this is election interference - sowing distrust and winking to the Kremlin. Maybe they can help again?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:54:33pm

re: #25 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The problem with it is that it implies that the Russians favor the Democrats over him. He would never admit that. The Russians are our best buds, remember? Putin is his friend! If there was Russian collusion, it was just to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN by electing Trump!

It’s just kayfabe. Also, you’re looking for internal consistency where it simply doesn’t exist. In his mind there’s no disconnect between him trying to create better relations with Russia and also trying to sell the notion that he’s the toughest President we’ve ever had when it comes to standing up to Russia. Both of these ideas dovetail neatly together in his ego dominated mindset. Since Russian interference on his behalf is a real political problem it’s logical for him to just DARVO it into a situation where they were and are helping the Democrats.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:54:50pm

re: #4 MsJ

Anthrax & Public Enemy - Bring The Noise (Official Video)
(sorry)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:59:04pm

re: #27 JordanRules

He flip flops like that all the time. Reality is very temporary and transactional with him.
Also, this is election interference - sowing distrust and winking to the Kremlin. Maybe they can help again?

Exactly. He’s just scrambling since the Helsinki meeting blew up so spectacularly. Also he’s been saying for about a year now as part of his denials of any collusion between his campaign and Russia that there was collusion between Democrats and Russia. It’s perfectly consistent for him to try to paint Democrats with his own sins, to say Putin actually is afraid of him and wants Trump’s enemies to win. Every single one of these arguments feeds his ego, which is all that really matters to him.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:03:16pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And yet just this morning:

“I think he’s trolling people, honestly,” the Wisconsin Republican said, chuckling at his own answer.

Yeah, Paulie. What a riot.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:03:49pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

Michael Avenatti ✔
@MichaelAvenatti
* 25m
In light of the events and info learned over the last 48 hours, we now know that Michael Cohen is trying to play both sides while he is in reality courting a pardon. He is looking out only for himself and Mr. Trump. He will never change. Let the chips fall where they may. #Basta

Cohen is a weasel and he is going to try to save his butt until he can no longer save it. He probably does think Donny isn’t going to forget him and he is still loyal to him no matter what.

It’s a sick relationship. It’s also a dangerous relationship.

I think Manafort is proving that too. Paul doesn’t seem like he is going to go against The Don either. He looks like he is going to go through a trial.

Where Cohen hopes Trump saves him in time, Manafort hopes he can save his own butt from the Russians by taking the hit.

If Trump doesn’t save Cohen, he too is probably worried about Russians. Does he have the makeup to take a trial and a sentence if no pardon comes?

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:04:05pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. He’s just scrambling since the Helsinki meeting blew up so spectacularly. Also he’s been saying for about a year now as part of his denials of any collusion between his campaign and Russia that there was collusion between Democrats and Russia. It’s perfectly consistent for him to try to paint Democrats with his own sins, to say Putin actually is afraid of him and wants Trump’s enemies to win. Every single one of these arguments feeds his ego, which is all that really matters to him.

Indeed. And Putin does a lot of the same but with polish and many institutional underpinnings.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:06:29pm
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:07:38pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:10:39pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Peter Alexander ✔
@PeterAlexander
NEW: On AF1, WH spox Hogan Gidley says Trump has “begun the mechanism” to remove security clearances from the six former national security officials named Monday.

Yesterday, the WH said Trump was only “exploring the mechanisms.”

4:59 PM - Jul 24, 2018

Hogan Gidley is a strange Trumper. He looks like a real Fox News-type, Trump suck up ready to take Sarah’s jobs any moment. And he would be even slicker at the lying because he would be more polished that SHS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:10:45pm

re: #35 MsJ

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If that tortoise could have talked, he’d probably have had almost nothing of interest to say.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:11:35pm

If Democrats aren’t targeting Trump protectors in a big way (such as Jordan, etc.), even if they are in deep red areas, it’s negligence. What will break over the next year will break them, but it could also break many before November.

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austin_blue  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:17:10pm

I wonder how much of that $12 billion is going to Archer Daniels Midland and how much is going to smaller family farms?

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:19:47pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Small farmers aren’t going to get shit. It’s for Big Agriculture. He’s not interested in helping anyone but his cronies.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:22:14pm

re: #24 Bubblehead II

Got CLed on the last thread.

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Bless her memory & her time here.

Also, great post Bub.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:22:16pm

re: #39 austin_blue

I wonder how much of that $12 billion is going to Archer Daniels Midland and how much is going to smaller family farms?

Big payout in Stinky Town (Decatur, Il).

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Old Liberal  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:22:18pm

re: #39 austin_blue

I wonder how much of that $12 billion is going to Archer Daniels Midland and how much is going to smaller family farms?

Even here in Wisconsin, there really aren’t many “smaller family farms”. Your typical dairy operation has over 1,000 cows, your typical crop operation is working over 800 acres. They may be “privately owned” as opposed to public stock ownership, but they are multi-million dollar ventures. No different from Menards, privately owned, a few family members involved, doesn’t make them a family hardware store as I remember them.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:23:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:25:15pm

re: #32 ObserverArt

Cohen is a weasel and he is going to try to save his butt until he can no longer save it. He probably does think Donny isn’t going to forget him and he is still loyal to him no matter what.

It’s a sick relationship. It’s also a dangerous relationship.

I think Manafort is proving that too. Paul doesn’t seem like he is going to go against The Don either. He looks like he is going to go through a trial.

Where Cohen hopes Trump saves him in time, Manafort hopes he can save his own butt from the Russians by taking the hit.

If Trump doesn’t save Cohen, he too is probably worried about Russians. Does he have the makeup to take a trial and a sentence if no pardon comes?

I keep going to the point that Cohen was an employee of the Trump Org. (correct?) for many years.

When they describe him as a fixer, they are missing the big point, he was a paid employee of the corrupt org.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:25:28pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:25:46pm
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Cheechako  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:26:00pm

re: #40 plansbandc

Small farmers aren’t going to get shit. It’s for Big Agriculture. He’s not interested in helping anyone but his cronies.

Small farmers will be bought off for $50. to $100K. That’s enough to help “save” a small farm and ensure the farming community votes. The big bucks will go to the multi-national agricultural corporations. Just another pay-off along with the reduced taxes.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:31:25pm

re: #43 Old Liberal

Even here in Wisconsin, there really aren’t many “smaller family farms”. Your typical dairy operation has over 1,000 cows, your typical crop operation is working over 800 acres. They may be “privately owned” as opposed to public stock ownership, but they are multi-million dollar ventures. No different from Menards, privately owned, a few family members involved, doesn’t make them a family hardware store as I remember them.

I’m going to our family reunion next week. It started when i was a kid in the 1960s. We went to the head farm in western Illinois. A lot of my cousins farmed in an area from Peoria down to Quincy. The last of them quit and sold out about 15 years ago. Couldn’t make it work and it was better to sell to the Ag-corporations. For the last 15 years of so the reunion has moved from a farm to a hotel/convention center. We can’t really afford it, but my elderly parents still go, and so we feel that we have to attend. The farming core of my family in my generation abandoned farming because they couldn’t make it. I can’t afford to keep going to these reunions with $30-per-plate dinners at convention hotels. It’s amazing how things have changed in my lifetime.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:32:20pm

re: #39 austin_blue

I wonder how much of that $12 billion is going to Archer Daniels Midland and how much is going to smaller family farms?

I wonder how much has to be kicked back to Trump and the GOP?

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:33:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:33:38pm

re: #4 MsJ

So much for civility.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:34:15pm

re: #39 austin_blue

I wonder how much of that $12 billion is going to Archer Daniels Midland and how much is going to smaller family farms?

“That, Detective, is the right question.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:35:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:35:53pm

re: #47 gocart mozart

Yes, lock Ivanka up. And the rest of her criminal family.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:39:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:39:28pm

JFC

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:41:42pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:42:09pm

Trump’s Iran Threat; Carter Page and Michael Cohen: A Closer Look

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:43:24pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:43:38pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:44:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:44:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:44:49pm

re: #53 MsJ

“That, Detective, is the right question.”

There’s a movie I haven’t watched in a while.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:45:12pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of Dana Mahgunz, did we ever figure out why she removed the NRA from her Twitter profile?

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:45:52pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She’s still pimping for them, so no.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:46:44pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:47:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:47:29pm

Elon Musk is another super-rich manbaby who needs someone around to tell him, “Knock it off, Elon.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:48:34pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Speaking of Dana Mahgunz, did we ever figure out why she removed the NRA from her Twitter profile?

She claims she never had NRA in her profile.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:50:06pm

Whoa

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:50:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:51:04pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Elon Musk is another super-rich manbaby who needs someone around to tell him, “Knock it off, Elon.”

A latter day Howard Hughes, though without the bad movies.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:51:37pm

And he sticks his ugly nose into another one:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:52:08pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:54:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:55:28pm

re: #74 BeachDem

And he sticks his ugly nose into another one:

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Because if it’s one thing Conservatives lack, it’s a voice. No, we never, ever hear them. It’s like they all have been silenced.
///x 10^23

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:56:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:57:13pm

re: #76 JordanRules

What do ‘experts’ know, anyway? Them and their ‘buoyancy’ and ‘life preservers’.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:57:23pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

We have always been at war with EastAsia.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:58:38pm

THREAD

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:59:33pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:59:41pm

re: #76 JordanRules

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JFC. I knew many of these were not World War II originals but I did not know they had been amateur designed. The amateur made replicas should be scrapped immediately and the originals prohibited from sightseeing.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:00:56pm

Hopefully my next congresscritter (primary Aug 14)

National Teacher of the Year Jahana Hayes

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:01:55pm

re: #76 JordanRules

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Hmm, no applicable training—sounds like the guy who designed the water slide in Kansas where a state rep’s kid died.

The Verrückt, a hybrid roller-coaster and waterslide ride, was the brainchild of Jeff Henry, who co-owns the company with his siblings. Investigators say Henry decided to build the ride in a “spur-of-the-moment bid to impress producers of Travel Channel’s Xtreme Waterparks series.” He and a longtime friend and business partner, John Schooley, were in charge of designing the ride and making the necessary calculations, even though neither of them had any credentials in mathematics, physics or engineering, the indictment says.

washingtonpost.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:03:09pm

re: #82 JordanRules

Well, you know, if you give workers more money, the next thing you know they’ll want things like healthcare and pensions and stuff like that, and pretty soon we’ll be back in the hellscape of the 1950s, when incomes rose for everyone, instead of just the Producers!
//

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Bubblehead II  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:03:57pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Speaking of Dana Mahgunz, did we ever figure out why she removed the NRA from her Twitter profile?

Maria Butina. She’s trying to distance herself when the collaborators implode.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:04:01pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:04:37pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Elon Musk is another super-rich manbaby who needs someone around to tell him, “Knock it off, Elon.”

Did he say or do something stupid again today? Or, is that just for his general behavior lately?

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:04:54pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

Hopefully my next congresscritter (primary Aug 14)

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We really are fielding a crop of awesome new candidates!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:04:55pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

You know, looking at that coffee table on the “Ellen” clip, it seems to me that people aren’t putting a hell of a lot of work into making furniture these days.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:05:33pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:06:27pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

How about we just drop the “two sides”for once? Play it and let us figure out what it means.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:08:42pm

re: #82 JordanRules

Outrageous that the federal minimum wage is so low. Perhaps it’s okay if you’re a teenager living at home but no adult should be earning such a low wage.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:09:33pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:09:56pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Outrageous that the federal minimum wage is so low. Perhaps it’s okay if you’re a teenager living at home but no adult should be earning such a low wage.

Too many people think that kids are the only ones earning minimum wage.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:10:30pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Outrageous that the federal minimum wage is so low. Perhaps it’s okay if you’re a teenager living at home but no adult should be earning such a low wage.

Many of them don’t, because states have started taking it upon themselves (slowly, of course, and only the more progressive ones) to raise the minimum wage within their borders above the federal minimum.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:10:35pm

re: #72 JordanRules

Natasha Bertrand ✔
@NatashaBertrand
“Russia, if you’re listening…”

Is Natasha saying what I was thinking earlier today when I first saw his tweet?

Tiny Desk: World Class Harmonica Virtuoso Frédéric Yonnet With Special Guest Dave Chappelle - Comment #308

Sure Trump is concerned Russia and Putin will have an impact on the 2018 elections. He’s concerned they might not be able to have the same impact they had on 2016. So, they will be having to fight harder to pull it off.

You have to watch what he is saying. It is always creative and dodgy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:11:06pm

re: #96 Belafon

Too many people think that kids are the only ones earning minimum wage.

HURR DURR IF YOU’RE AN ADULT AND YOU’RE EARNING A MINIMUM WAGE YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST GONE TO COLLEGE AND GOTTEN YOURSELF A REAL JERB!!!!!!

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:11:19pm

re: #95 JordanRules

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TedStriker  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:13:01pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:14:08pm

Definitely.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:15:26pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

THREAD

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Wow!! So Putin pretty much let Trump know what he has over his head and what he expects Trump to do for him as payback for the $400 million funneled to his campaign. I’m sure Mueller is paying attention to all of this.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:16:10pm

So, being opposed to a government hand-out is now socialism? The repugs aren’t even trying to make sense. They just spout gibberish to fill the time until they can settle everything with their gunz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:20:54pm

desperately changing the conversations:

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b.d.  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:21:52pm

re: #102 JordanRules

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Definitely.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:22:26pm

re: #99 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

HURR DURR IF YOU’RE AN ADULT AND YOU’RE EARNING A MINIMUM WAGE YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST GONE TO COLLEGE AND GOTTEN YOURSELF A REAL JERB!!!!!!

HURR DURR IF UR AN ADULT EARNING MINIMUM WAGE YOU SHUDN’TA GONE TO COLLEJ & MAJERED IN WIMMENS STUDIES!!!1!!!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:22:53pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

HURR DURR IF UR AN ADULT EARNING MINIMUM WAGE YOU SHUDN’TA GONE TO COLLEJ & MAJERED IN WIMMENS STUDIES!!!1!!!!!

You speak much better wingnut than I do. I’ve been out of touch with my roots, apparently. Damn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:23:05pm
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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:24:31pm

re: #43 Old Liberal

Even here in Wisconsin, there really aren’t many “smaller family farms”. Your typical dairy operation has over 1,000 cows, your typical crop operation is working over 800 acres. They may be “privately owned” as opposed to public stock ownership, but they are multi-million dollar ventures. No different from Menards, privately owned, a few family members involved, doesn’t make them a family hardware store as I remember them.

Speaking of that MF’er John Menard, I’ve been seeing a lot of “Menards” t-shirts of late. Don’t know where they’re coming from or if the people wearing them actually think the pro-customer rah-rah manure on them is real but they nauseate me whenever I see one.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:25:07pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:28:08pm

LOLWUT

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:28:33pm

oh…

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:28:41pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:29:16pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Anchorman: Cat Poo

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:32:19pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

Hopefully my next congresscritter (primary Aug 14)

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Where do I vote?!

After watching that commercial, I’m sold on the teacher.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:32:30pm

lol at “…also show Rudy Giuliani lied. But that’s not news.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:36:15pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:36:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:39:40pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:40:17pm

Trump on the tape telling someone to get him a Coke is just so on brand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:41:41pm
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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:41:48pm

re: #6 JordanRules

1) they don’t know what they’re doing and have botched these calls from day 1.
2) they don’t want people to know what they’re doing because they’ve been botching these calls from day 1.
3) they don’t want people to know because they are undermining our national security and it turns into a nonstop shitshow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:42:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:44:25pm

re: #100 JordanRules

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:45:23pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:45:27pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:46:22pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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I watched this segment with my jaw on the fucking floor.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:47:37pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:47:48pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is nothing if not petty.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:49:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:50:29pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:50:45pm

I think there’s good reason to think Russia will do low profile in 2018 and come with a vengeance in 2020 for Trump second term.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:51:28pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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But we’ve already seen it. Lol

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:53:33pm

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

I think there’s good reason to think Russia will do low profile in 2018 and come with a vengeance in 2020 for Trump second term.

I disagree. I think they will push hard, in a much more subtle direction than 2016, because if the Republicans lose in 2018 there is little doubt how that will end for the Russian spies in the Administration.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:55:17pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is a liar. The tape doesn’t lie. Putting out an alternative transcript of the tape isn’t going to sway those of us who know he’s a liar. Nor will it fool Mueller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:55:47pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:56:16pm

re: #135 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I disagree. I think they will push hard, in a much more subtle direction than 2016, because if the Republicans lose in 2018 there is little doubt how that will end for the Russian spies in the Administration.

I hope that we have people in place thinking both ways. Your scenario is quite plausible: do a few anti-Trump things, but overall pro-Trump.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:57:59pm

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

I think there’s good reason to think Russia will do low profile in 2018 and come with a vengeance in 2020 for Trump second term.

I can’t disagree harder. They are making attempts right now. The President winked at them via tweet today and the GOP is looking the other way (and voting against it) while Dems and civil rights groups are trying everything they can to combat it.
Georgia had a primary today and their election system is dirty af. Kislyak visited those headquarters. Russia knows sanctions will rain down on them if we take Congress.

They been playing the long game. They are still attacking and we are not defending.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:58:30pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:06pm

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

I hope that we have people in place thinking both ways. Your scenario is quite plausible: do a few anti-Trump things, but overall pro-Trump.

Honestly, I think we’re going to need to be on our guard against electoral fuckery from foreign powers of all kinds - not just Russia - every electoral cycle for decades, at the least. The rampant success of Putin’s infiltration of American government will only encourage other wannabe world powers with deep pockets and talented cyber warfare departments to do the same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:24pm

re: #135 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I disagree. I think they will push hard, in a much more subtle direction than 2016, because if the Republicans lose in 2018 there is little doubt how that will end for the Russian spies in the Administration.

Yeah, I think Putin views Trump as an unstable asset with a fast approaching sell by date and is trying to use him to inflict maximum damage now.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:48pm
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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:55pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

I watched this segment with my jaw on the fucking floor.

I was even more stunned by the section on Russia’s announcing that Gen. Joseph Votel “discredited Trump.”

“With his statements, General Votel not only discredited the official position of his supreme commander-in-chief, but also exacerbated the illegality under international law and US law of the military presence of American servicemen in Syria,”

(I guess it was out earlier in the day, but that was the first time I’d heard it. And notice that while asshole was tweeting about the Salem broadcasting crap, he never said a word in defense of our top military commander in the Middle East.) Edit to change—it’s Sinclair, not Salem—sorry, got one scummy broadcast group confused with another one.)

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fern01  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:04:23pm

re: #6 JordanRules

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The man who is forcing what was normal behavior to be set in stone via legislation. I hope dems realise this when they take back government

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:06:14pm

re: #141 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Honestly, I think we’re going to need to be on our guard against electoral fuckery from foreign powers of all kinds - not just Russia - every electoral cycle for decades, at the least. The rampant success of Putin’s infiltration of American government will only encourage other wannabe world powers with deep pockets and talented cyber warfare departments to do the same.

Absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:06:27pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:07:03pm

re: #139 JordanRules

I can’t disagree harder. They are making attempts right now. The President winked at them via tweet today and the GOP is looking the other way (and voting against it) while Dems and civil rights groups are trying everything they can to combat it.
Georgia had a primary today and their election system is dirty af. Kislyak visited those headquarters. Russia knows sanctions will rain down on them if we take Congress.

They been playing the long game. They are still attacking and we are not defending.

What it would take now is pro American hackers to counter attack without the blessing of the US government. We too can have extra governmental patriots fighting for American wins. Penetrating power grids and defense networks.

The state of the art of hacking is attackers win. Offense has the natural advantage by a large margin. Our government guys are leashed. But not our black hats. The other riskier play is asymmetric. A software attack is retaliated against physically. Or physical embargoes against nations that harbor hostile coders.

Or we fall to the military option. Americans start dying in a heat wave because the Russians hacked the grid? That’s a (hopefully) limited war.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:07:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:09:00pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:10:32pm

re: #85 BeachDem

The description of what happened to that kid will haunt me for life.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:10:53pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:17:35pm

re: #82 JordanRules

The federal minimum wage of $7.25* took effect 9 years ago today; it hasn’t been raised since @NancyPelosi was Speaker.

Not valid in *Georgia, *Wyoming - $5.15 (Employers subject to Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the federal minimum wage.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:21:45pm
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:25:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:28:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:29:30pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:29:57pm

re: #156 Kragar

Faith No More’s version of that song is good.

I Started a Joke (2016 Remastered Version)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:30:20pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:30:23pm

I have to admit, it’s fascinating to watch this whole thing unraveling in real time. For the older generation, is this anything at all like watching the saga of Nixon and Watergate unfold?

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:32:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:32:58pm
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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:37:16pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

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Oops I did it Again - Richard Thompson

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:40:46pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:41:15pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

The funny thing about Oops, I did it again…, is that all I can hear in my head is Richard Thompson’s version that he did on his 1000 Years of Popular Music album. I saw this show at least three times.

Richard Thompson - Oops I Did It Again

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:42:10pm

Damn you , William.

Great minds, and all that.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:42:11pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to admit, it’s fascinating to watch this whole thing unraveling in real time. For the older generation, is this anything at all like watching the saga of Nixon and Watergate unfold?

Back then there were no bullshit outfits like Fox, Breitbart, and Limbaugh so there wasn’t the nonstop distraction techniques, outright lies like you’re getting now. Everything was a lot clearer then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:42:47pm

oh…

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:44:05pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

Faith No More’s version of that song is good.

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Video

I have never heard that before. Pretty good take.

I mentioned a week or so ago, I got to see the Bee Gees back in like ‘67 at the Ohio State Fair. That was my first outdoor concert at 13 years old.

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stpaulbear  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:44:07pm

re: #167 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Damn you , William.

Great minds, and all that.

I was going to post that video too until I saw Wm was first. That song was made for Thompson.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:44:17pm

Does Donny feel the heat? Yeah like some 10k rose gold today…

10k Rose Gold @ 1900 F.
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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:45:22pm

re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The funny thing about Oops, I did it again…, is that all I can hear in my head is Richard Thompson’s version that he did on his 1000 Years of Popular Music album. I saw this show at least three times.

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I almost posted that video but I was pleased to see a really recent video showing he’s still enjoying performing the song :) It really gets a different feel in his hands and voice. Wish I could have seen the 1000 years show, the whole video is excellent though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:45:50pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:45:56pm

re: #164 William Lewis

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I like Haley Reinhart’s cover

Oops!… I Did It Again - Vintage Marilyn Monroe Style Britney Spears Cover ft. Haley Reinhart

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:46:26pm

re: #167 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Damn you , William.

Great minds, and all that.

From a former cow-orker:

“Great minds think alike.”
“Yeah, so do ours.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:46:39pm

re: #173 William Lewis

I almost posted that video but I was pleased to see a really recent video showing he’s still enjoying performing the song :) It really gets a different feel in his hands and voice. Wish I could have seen the 1000 years show, the whole video is excellent though.

Very fun show. He’s great live.

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:49:10pm

re: #171 stpaulbear

I was going to post that video too until I saw Wm was first. That song was made for Thompson.

When it’s Thompson solo, it’s the Vincint song and Oops that I think of. But I remember Richard and Linda together first, every time…

Fairport Convention, Richard & Linda Thompson : I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:49:52pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to admit, it’s fascinating to watch this whole thing unraveling in real time. For the older generation, is this anything at all like watching the saga of Nixon and Watergate unfold?

In a way yes. But then there is so much more in and around the original case of collusion that makes it way more complicated than Nixon.

There is just so much going on and then you have Trump being an awful president to go along with it, plus the continued collaboration with the Russians.

And then there is the in-your-face-America arrogance.

In my opinion Trump is way more in deep illegally than Nixon. Nixon was bad, but really his criminal doing was small bungling gang as compared to Trump’s (and Putin’s?) Mob Family.

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whitebeach  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:50:46pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to admit, it’s fascinating to watch this whole thing unraveling in real time. For the older generation, is this anything at all like watching the saga of Nixon and Watergate unfold?

Not really, because back in them ancient days there were still Repubs who could use reason and had loyalty to the nation even over their own careers. Not crowds of them, but enough to impeach and convict the sorry bastard if it had come to that.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:50:50pm
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:51:12pm

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

I like Haley Reinhart’s cover

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Sean right now…

CAKE - “Never Gonna Give You Up”

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:51:27pm

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

I like Haley Reinhart’s cover

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I like PMJ lots but hadn’t seen that one before. Thank you!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:52:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:52:28pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lock her up! Lock her up!

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:53:30pm

re: #170 ObserverArt

I have never heard that before. Pretty good take.

I mentioned a week or so ago, I got to see the Bee Gees back in like ‘67 at the Ohio State Fair. That was my first outdoor concert at 13 years old.

I maintain that Mike Patton is one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll vocalists of all time. ymmv

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:54:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:58:17pm

re: #187 Kragar

How long before the right-wing talking point of ZOMG ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION HE SHOULD BE DISBARRED!!!?

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:58:43pm

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

I like Haley Reinhart’s cover

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Video

Postmodern Jukebox hits it out of the park again. She adds a nice sexy Betty Boop slant to it.

All this shows how one simple song can have so many takes in different styles.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:00:27pm

re: #181 MsJ

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I wonder who will be munching more Ambien—Blowsanne or Hannity?

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:00:56pm

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

I like Haley Reinhart’s cover

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Video

I’ll see you and raise you a Morgan James.

Lovin’, Touchin’, Squeezin’ by Journey (Morgan James Cover)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:02:30pm
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calochortus  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:02:32pm

re: #190 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wonder who will be munching more Ambien—Blowsanne or Hannity?

I suspect Hannity will, but I don’t have anything to back that up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:03:52pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Paying in a lump sum is phrased as, “paid cash” or “paid in full”. Nobody expects you to walk into a car dealership with $25k in bills to “pay cash” for a new car.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:04:49pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Trump was saying cash to prevent a paper trail. He meant actual dollars.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:04:50pm
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whitebeach  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:05:21pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Paying in a lump sum is phrased as, “paid cash” or “paid in full”. Nobody expects you to walk into a car dealership with $25k in bills to “pay cash” for a new car.

I distinctly heard the fucker say, “Pay rubles.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:06:30pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Paying in a lump sum is phrased as, “paid cash” or “paid in full”. Nobody expects you to walk into a car dealership with $25k in bills to “pay cash” for a new car.

I paid cash for my car that I still drive to this day. It was in the form of a cashier’s check.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:09:04pm
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Cheechako  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:10:16pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Paying in a lump sum is phrased as, “paid cash” or “paid in full”. Nobody expects you to walk into a car dealership with $25k in bills to “pay cash” for a new car.

Many moons ago when I was in charge of administrating Govt timber sales, I had a smart ass logger bring in $100,000 in cash to pay his bill. We took it. Had to get an armed Special Agent to escort us to the bank.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:17:30pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mark Burns, too slimy even for South Carolina Republicans (came in 8th, with 2.48% of the vote in his primary campaign for Trey Gowdy’s seat.)

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:17:53pm

re: #180 whitebeach

Not really, because back in them ancient days there were still Repubs who could use reason and had loyalty to the nation even over their own careers. Not crowds of them, but enough to impeach and convict the sorry bastard if it had come to that.

And the network news departments had not yet been brought under the ‘entertainment’ umbrella. The evening news back then was somber as a church, and the news anchors (Cronkite for CBS, Huntley-Brinkley for NBC, and Frank Reynolds on ABC IIRC) were respected and took their jobs very seriously.

When I see what the news business has turned into, it really makes me sad.

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:19:23pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I maintain that Mike Patton is one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll vocalists of all time. ymmv

I’ll go with that. He has always confounded expectations.

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whitebeach  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:19:48pm

re: #198 teleskiguy

I paid cash for my car that I still drive to this day. It was in the form of a cashiers check.

My brother isn’t a rich guy but he likes to pay cash. Years back he bought a nice fairly expensive car. One of his employees was asking about it.

Guy: What kinda note you pay on that car?

Bro: Don’t have a note. Paid cash.

Emp: Naw, I mean what you pay every month.

Bro: Nothing a month. I bought it for cash.

Emp: You don’t pay nothing a month?

Bro: No. I paid the whole price when I bought it, cash.

Emp (long pause): They gonna come and take it away.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:22:26pm

re: #187 Kragar

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Every day I think, Jacob Ahole can’t possibly get any dumber, and every day, he proves me wrong.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:25:21pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:25:42pm

re: #202 makeitstop

I should have mentioned that. It made a huge difference.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:27:44pm

re: #205 BeachDem

He is a wonder considering he ran a fraudulent hedge fund. It’s amazing who Twitter gives blue check marks to.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:28:21pm

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:28:37pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:31:42pm

re: #205 BeachDem

Every day I think, Jacob Ahole can’t possibly get any dumber, and every day, he proves me wrong.

My turtle is smarter than he is.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:41:51pm

re: #208 Skip Intro

He is a wonder considering he ran a fraudulent hedge fund. It’s amazing who Twitter gives blue check marks to.

He’s even too stupid for Twitchy (now that’s an accomplishment right there)

‘Tornado of STUPID!’ Jacob Wohl’s SCORCHING-HOT take on Putin will legit MELT YOUR FACE OFF

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:46:57pm

I think he’s right.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:49:18pm

re: #213 Single-handed sailor

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I think he’s right.

Dems have a prime opportunity here to demand the funding be tied to the DREAM Act.

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stpaulbear  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:55:37pm

re: #213 Single-handed sailor

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I think he’s right.

Katy Tur interviewed Amy Klobuchar about the bailout this evening and Amy talked about where the money would come from and how important it is to make sure that farmers are treated fairly. She didn’t just come right out and say that the tariffs were stupid. She walks a pretty fine line trying to represent everyone in the state of MN. I like her but I’d like to hear her trash-talk Trump more than she does.

Full Amy Klobuchar: President Trump ‘Wants To Create An Alternate Reality’ | MTP Daily | MSNBC

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:04:08pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

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Nauseating melodrama and stilted English; textbook divide-and-howl garbage like you find all over social media.

If I was dictator, there would be a really big “accidental” fire at that building in Saint Petersburg where they churn this crap out…

I remain convinced that the NRA’s social media feeds are run by someone from overseas, probably a “consulting company” LLC whose registered agent address is an apartment rented by the douchebag nephew of a mid-level Russian state bank executive, somewhere in Virginia… It would be really interesting for someone to dig into that, I bet… hmmm

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:42:35pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Signature Bank also offers credit cards through various other companies who stick their brand on them. I used to have one.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:55:32pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I maintain that Mike Patton is one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll vocalists of all time. ymmv

And he’s a really nice guy, too.

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steve_davis  Jul 25, 2018 • 5:04:36am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a great and creative way to showcase dogs for foster/adoption!

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Hawking Piggins? That isn’t a dog. That’s a child going to high Episcopal dayschool.


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