A Fantastic New Song and Video by Louis Cole: Things

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A total change of pace from Knower and Louis Cole’s previous funk/fusion work, this incredible new song brings to mind the Beach Boys, by way of Todd Rundgren.

Taken from the album ‘Time’, released 10 August 2018 on Brainfeeder: https://louiscole.lnk.to/timeSo

CREDITS

Written and performed by Louis Cole
Video directed and edited by Louis Cole
Filmed by Daniel Sunshine
Car driver Andrea Silva

String parts played by the Rochester Stringz, conducted by Edo Frenkel.

Rochester Stringz: Tyrone Allen II, Raina Arnett, Ben Baker, Aoífe Balaji, Lydia Becker, Paul Bergeron, Devin Camp, Tahlia Cott, Ethan Durell, Christina Eastman, Willa Finck, Halam Kim, Sean Knapp, Emiliano Lasansky, Andrew Laven, Sunwoo Lee, Anna Leunis, Carter Mink, Sabrina Parry, Ike Polinsky, Grant Rieke, Josh Wareham, Holly Workman

LYRICS

Never guess and never know
Losing everything you own
But just before you hit the red
Your best ideas hit your head

The ones you love will call you back
The regulars will treat you bad
A bolt of lightning from the blue
Now it’s really clear to you

Things may not work out how you thought
Things may not work out how you thought
Maybe it is good, maybe it is bad
Either way the only truth we have, is,
Things may not work out how you thought

Use a coin to scratch away
Your desperation on display
A different era starts to show
So different friends will come and go

The one you love will hurt you bad
But a stranger has your back
It’s sunny when it starts to snow
And that is when you really know

Things may not work out how you thought
Things may not work out how you thought
Maybe it is good, maybe it is bad
Either way the only truth we have, is,
Things may not work out how you thought

Things may not work out how you thought

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207 comments
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:15:13pm

orwell imagined newspeak and doublethink as laboriously constructed by bureaucrats or scholars and imposed by force by a fascist government

he didn’t anticipate the existence of a being who talks in newspeak naturally, expressing doublethink thoughts as if he had been genetically engineered to do it, infecting millions virally

i once read a sf story called ‘black memes’ where a cybernetically enabled fascist state endevoured to isolate citizens from unauthorized ideas - but these black memes were ideas we would welcome

but how long before the mind virus being spread by bad meme vector zero, the orange man, freezes all our minds like ice-9?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:17:03pm

re: #1 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

orwell imagined newspeak and doublethink as laboriously constructed by bureaucrats or scholars and imposed by force by a fascist government

he didn’t anticipate the existence of a being who talks in newspeak naturally, expressing doublethink thoughts as if he had been genetically engineered to do it, infecting millions virally

i once read a sf story called ‘black memes’ where a cybernetically enabled fascist state endevoured to isolate citizens from unauthorized ideas - but these black memes were ideas we would welcome

but how long before the mind virus being spread by bad meme vector zero, the orange man, freezes all our minds like ice-9?

updings for ice-9. Vonnegut should be writing about Trump and Carlin should be talking about him.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:20:17pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

updings for ice-9. Vonnegut should be writing about Trump and Carlin should be talking about him.

alas how sorely we lack a carlin to sharpen his sharp sharp tongue and cut those who so fully deserve it

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:20:55pm

re: #3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

alas how sorely we lack a carlin to sharpen his sharp sharp tongue and cut those who so fully deserve it

And Hunter S. Thompson.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:21:48pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

And Hunter S. Thompson.

And Molly Ivans.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:21:58pm

And Molly Ivans!

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:22:29pm

re: #5 sagehen

And Molly Ivans Ivins.

(sp)

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:23:36pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

(sp)

Me too!
I don’t know why I spelled it like that either.

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retired cynic  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:24:36pm

re: #8 JordanRules

Me too!
I don’t know why I spelled it like that either.

No matter how you spell it, she was the best. We really need her now!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:31:27pm

OMG. THIS is Meghan McCain’s shiny new hubby from the whirlwind romance?

No wonder she gone off the deep end.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Co-founder of RedState, writer for the Nativist Racists Online, and…

In March 2006, Domenech was named as a blogger for The Washington Post, where he would write from the conservative point of view. But only three days after his appointment, on March 21, 2006, Domenech resigned his position, when evidence surfaced that he had earlier plagiarized work that had originally appeared in The New Yorker, The Washington Post, the National Review, and other publications.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:31:30pm
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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:34:45pm

re: #9 retired cynic

She is sorely missed. Oh how she would have loathed the orange bag. And she would have described her loathing in the most eloquent and hilarious way.

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:35:20pm

Great song, Charles. Thanks for expanding my musical horizons once again.

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SteelPH  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:36:37pm

re: #10 MsJ

OMG. THIS is Meghan McCain’s shiny new hubby from the whirlwind romance?

No wonder she gone off the deep end.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Co-founder of RedState, writer for the Nativist Racists Online, and…

Displaying once again that conservatives have no standards.

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retired cynic  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:36:52pm

re: #12 plansbandc

She is sorely missed. Oh how she would have loathed the orange bag. And she would have described her loathing in the most eloquent and hilarious way.

Yes, we need not just the biting commentary, but we need to be able to really laugh. I think we all feel the loss of humor. The guts just get twisted into a tighter and tighter knot. Working outside in the yard, that helps me forget.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:40:16pm

re: #14 SteelPH

Displaying once again that conservatives have no standards.

There’s a lengthy section on Controversies on Wiki.

I laughed my ass off.

A punk who married a millionaire.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:42:19pm

re: #10 MsJ

OMG. THIS is Meghan McCain’s shiny new hubby from the whirlwind romance?

No wonder she gone off the deep end.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Co-founder of RedState, writer for the Nativist Racists Online, and…

Yup. She gets auto maverick cred but she’s really just a cutout ready to storm into her fathers shadow and exploit the same dynamics he did but from outside of electoral politics (for now).
She’s bought into the ugly GOP side even if she jabs back when they come for her Dad. Of course she does, thats her Dad!
Annnnd it helps shape her fake maverick story so she can ‘innocently’ enable the worst, have big platforms and protect her coins. Oligarch view on The View.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:45:19pm

re: #17 JordanRules

But but but… she’s got big bewbs!

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:52:01pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

But but but… she’s got big bewbs!

[Embedded content]

She’s cute, smarter than Palin and has lots of media friendly things going for her. I knew she would run with her things right on into the spotlight. So much about the industries she covets is built to propel her.

She’s as fucked as everybody else not condeming and acting against this shit constantly. She then decides to make even more money off of it. Gross.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:53:15pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

But but but… she’s got big bewbs!

[Embedded content]

Since she’s gained about 30 pounds, they’re even bigger.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:53:43pm

Of course, when you mention Trump and rock ‘n’ roll, you gave to include Todd Rundgren and Donald Fagen’s “Tin Foil Hat” from last year

Todd - Rundgren - Tin Foil Hat (feat. Donald Fagen) [Official Video]

He hasn’t got the time for losers,
Lest they do as he commands,
Writing checks to his accusers,
With those tiny little hands

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SteelPH  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:54:02pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

But but but… she’s got big bewbs!

[Embedded content]

Now if only everything else about her wasn’t (for the most part) repulsive.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:54:26pm

re: #19 JordanRules

She’s cute, smarter than Palin and has lots of media friendly things going for her. I knew she she would run with her things right on into the spotlight. So much about the industries she covets is built to propel her.

She’s as fucked as everybody else not condeming and acting against this shit constantly. She then decides to make even more money off of it. Gross.

She’s nowhere near as cute as Ivanka and the Republicans won’t ever love her as much. But she tries.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:55:15pm

Bizarro world, part 1246897532

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2018 • 9:59:48pm

re: #24 MsJ

Bizarro world, part 1246897532

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We’re getting to the point where it will suddenly be trendy for “moderate” Republicans to start breaking ties with him. What is that point? The point where they realize they just got shot in the ass for supporting him.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:11:16pm

I’m watching Castle Rock, first two episodes, and this is some dark shit.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:13:08pm

re: #24 MsJ

And as a purgative from this constipated conservative, may I present the one and only Mr. Stevie Wonder. Because life is good.

Stevie Wonder Til You Come Back To Me

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:17:35pm

situations change fast

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:19:37pm

Click this link. The password is hopelessness.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:20:18pm

re: #23 MsJ

She’s nowhere near as cute as Ivanka and the Republicans won’t ever love her as much. But she tries.

Oh no, I completely disagree but both are wac so.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:22:39pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

We’re getting to the point where it will suddenly be trendy for “moderate” Republicans to start breaking ties with him. What is that point? The point where they realize they just got shot in the ass for supporting him.

I think it will have to be a significant group of them for it to happen. I don’t see any real inclination towards that tho.

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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:24:53pm

My team’s match is at 5:30 AM tomorrow, yet I am still awake. Doesn’t bode well for me waking up.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:25:50pm

re: #31 JordanRules

I think it will have to be a significant group of them for it to happen. I don’t see any real inclination towards that tho.

I don’t see it really at the moment either. There’s enough of them, particularly the true believers, who think that they need to wrap their arms around his sweaty form because if they don’t then the base will stay home. But if he costs them the House, let alone the Senate, then that tune is gonna quickly change.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:26:11pm
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plansbandc  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:29:08pm

Ronan Farrow is terrific. He is a true journalist. Refreshing in this insane timeline.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:31:29pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

I don’t see it really at the moment either. There’s enough of them, particularly the true believers, who think that they need to wrap their arms around his sweaty form because if they don’t then the base will stay home. But if he costs them the House, let alone the Senate, then that tune is gonna quickly change.

If Trump ends up costing the GOP the House (and who knows, maybe the Senate - though I still see that as less likely) the GOP leadership will have a “road to Damascus” moment…….an epiphany that the spray-tanned buffoon is now an albatross around the party’s neck - and it’s rotting carcass is really starting to stink up the place.

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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:31:50pm
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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:35:15pm
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JordanRules  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:38:42pm

Thread…

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:42:56pm

So, Twitter arbitrarily put this tweet o’ mine into their “Moments” algorithm. It’s been retweeted over 230 times, liked over 1,200 times, one of my most popular tweets.

I didn’t ask for it. I guess people really check Twitter Moments. I’ve never ever checked Twitter Moments (the icon is a lighting bolt), until this morning ‘cause my notifications were coming in fast and furious.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:47:00pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

I’m just a tad weirded out by this. Some Twitter programmer way up on the totem pole decided that my tweet needed a wider audience. Nobody asked me. This person (or algorithm) was like “let’s fuck up this dudes mentions for two days!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:52:53pm

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2018 • 10:58:57pm

Apparently, Newsweek thinks Putin might take trump down. I disagreed downstairs.

Something to hope for??

newsweek.com

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wheat-dogg  Jul 27, 2018 • 11:15:16pm

The useful idiot is becoming less useful to Putin. I could see him cutting his losses and throwing Trump under the bus.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2018 • 11:32:49pm

The evolution of “There’s no collusion with Russia” to “So what?” succinctly displayed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2018 • 11:39:59pm

re: #43 MsJ

Apparently, Newsweek thinks Putin might take trump down. I disagreed downstairs.

Something to hope for??

newsweek.com

I doubt it. The Russians have already been caught this election cycle trying to hack Claire McCaskill. If she loses that greatly increases the GOP’s odds of retaining the Senate, helping Trump stay in power. There is no more pro-Russia US politician with a realistic chance of winning the WH.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:14:09am

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

I doubt it. The Russians have already been caught this election cycle trying to hack Claire McCaskill. If she loses that greatly increases the GOP’s odds of retaining the Senate, helping Trump stay in power. There is no more pro-Russia US politician with a realistic chance of winning the WH.

I still can’t figure out what kind of end game the Russians are playing for. Don’t they realize their actions are only generating increasing hostility against them? Sooner or later, a new administration is going to come in and there’s a good chance there’s gonna be absolute hell to pay for the Russians at that point - truly crippling economic sanctions for example, sanctions designed to drive Russia into financial ruin. Kicking Russia out of SWIFT or IBAN, putting them on the US State Department’s “state sponsors of terrorism” list, etc.

They’re not thinking ahead, of what the situation is going to look like two, four, or six years out.

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fern01  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:16:20am

re: #28 Single-handed sailor

Has trump said a single word about the fires? 2014 the GOP would be blaming Obama for them, while the latter would be sending much needed help.

trump is playing golf and talking about MAGA rallies.

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ericblair  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:19:19am

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

I doubt it. The Russians have already been caught this election cycle trying to hack Claire McCaskill. If she loses that greatly increases the GOP’s odds of retaining the Senate, helping Trump stay in power. There is no more pro-Russia US politician with a realistic chance of winning the WH.

I doubt it too, because overall Democrats keep their noses clean and are of little use to Putin. The senators who spent their 4th of July in fucking Moscow looked like they were being held there against their will, and I’m assuming they were. Remember, not only the DNC got hacked; so did the RNC. We’ve never seen their emails, so who’s sitting on them, what’s in them, and what are they actually doing with them?

Also, Putin fucking hates Clinton, hates Obama and everything they stand for and are surrounded by. Little story: one Russian academic does an interesting study on Russian elections to see which districts have the most stuffed ballots. You can easily tell which ones, because they have the highest percentage of returned ballots AND the highest percentage of Putin or Putin-party returns. It means that the ballot stuffers only stuff Putin ballots exclusively. To make it more realistic, they should stuff in a certain amount of opposition ballots as well to make the statistics look right, but they won’t aid anyone they hate. Even if it helps them.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:23:47am

Trump can’t play the lyre. He’s better at being a liar.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:30:50am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:19:26am

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

I still can’t figure out what kind of end game the Russians are playing for. Don’t they realize their actions are only generating increasing hostility against them? Sooner or later, a new administration is going to come in and there’s a good chance there’s gonna be absolute hell to pay for the Russians at that point - truly crippling economic sanctions for example, sanctions designed to drive Russia into financial ruin. Kicking Russia out of SWIFT or IBAN, putting them on the US State Department’s “state sponsors of terrorism” list, etc.

They’re not thinking ahead, of what the situation is going to look like two, four, or six years out.

I would guess that they are just trying to sow as much chaos as they can, wherever they can. By promoting nationalist rightwing politics throughout the West, I think they hope to break up the western alliances such as NATO and the EU that serve as a check on Russia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:22:29am

re: #52 Big Beautiful Door

I would guess that they are just trying to sow as much chaos as they can, wherever they can. By promoting nationalist rightwing politics throughout the West, I think they hope to break up the western alliances such as NATO and the EU that serve as a check on Russia.

Sooner or later, those chickens are gonna come home to roost. Such maneuvers will inevitably generate a massive anti-Russian backlash and it’ll probably start in the US and spread to Europe from there.

The Russians are playing a game that will backfire on them in the most nightmarish fashion imaginable.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:27:49am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Sooner or later, those chickens are gonna come home to roost. Such maneuvers will inevitably generate a massive anti-Russian backlash and it’ll probably start in the US and spread to Europe from there.

The Russians are playing a game that will backfire on them in the most nightmarish fashion imaginable.

I hope you are right. With Trump, Brexit and the rise of rightwing populism throughout the West, Russia is seeing a lot of short-term gains. If Trump can get re-elected in 2020 (and that looks like a long shot right now, but things can change a lot in two years) Putin’s gamble could pay off big time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:41:11am

Here’s a nightmare scenario Putin probably thinks is worth playing for: The hoped for Democratic wave this November fizzles and the GOP retains control of both the House and the Senate, while Mueller’s report doesn’t produce the bombshells of criminal activity by Trump and his inner circle we are expecting. Trump manages to not stumble into a recession, and his approval rating drifts up to the mid forties, just enough to enable him to squeak to re-election while finishing second in the popular vote again. With his “mandate” Trump takes the US out of NATO, withdraws US troops from South Korea, and cancels NAFTA. With a hard Brexit and raising global tariffs already slowing the world economy, lax US regulation of Wall Street triggers another financial panic which turns into a global depression and leads to the increased spread of populist rightwing authoritarianism in Europe, the US and elsewhere, leaving no stable international institutions left to oppose Russian interventions to assert its dominance over former soviet states.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:51:11am

re: #55 Big Beautiful Door

Man, that’s a lot of ifs, piled onto a bunch more maybes, with some coulds sprinkled in for good measure. Not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that if that is the plan, it’s utterly batshit, even by 2018 standards.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:01:35am

re: #55 Big Beautiful Door

That’s a helluva gamble. Granted, if it pays off, that’s one way to win all the marbles, no doubt about it.

But……if it doesn’t pay off, he’s opened the gates of hell. “Russia delenda est” will become the catchphrase of the day.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:02:56am

re: #56 Sufficient unto the day…

Man, that’s a lot of ifs, piled onto a bunch more maybes, with some coulds sprinkled in for good measure. Not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that if that is the plan, it’s utterly batshit, even by 2018 standards.

I think that Trump has a less than 50% chance of getting reelected, but probably at least as good a chance as he had of winning in the first place, and that while that entire scenario is unlikely to play out, enough of it could play out for Putin to think its working for him. Trump and other rightwing nationalists are already weakening the Western Alliance; I’m sure Putin would like to see just how far towards complete disintegration it can be pushed.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:03:27am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Sooner or later, those chickens are gonna come home to roost. Such maneuvers will inevitably generate a massive anti-Russian backlash and it’ll probably start in the US and spread to Europe from there.

The Russians are playing a game that will backfire on them in the most nightmarish fashion imaginable.

I don’t think Putin expected it to work. I think he wanted a critically damaged Hillary Clinton as President and Trump screaming about being cheated on his new TV channel.

Now I think Putin has the Tiger by the tail and can’t let go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:05:06am

re: #58 Big Beautiful Door

I think that Trump has a less than 50% chance of getting reelected, but probably at least as good a chance as he had of winning in the first place, and that while that entire scenario is unlikely to play out, enough of it could play out for Putin to think its working for him.

He still has a lot of options up his sleeve, like declaring war as the result of a terror attack…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:05:22am

re: #59 Kilroy was here

I don’t think Putin expected it to work. I think he wanted a critically damaged Hillary Clinton as President and Trump screaming about being cheated on his new TV channel.

Now I think Putin has the Tiger by the tail and can’t let go.

That’s actually a logical scenario and something I could see Putin playing for. Not to mention that a President Hillary gives him a bogeyman to rally domestic support for his policies.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:06:33am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

That’s a helluva gamble. Granted, if it pays off, that’s one way to win all the marbles, no doubt about it.

But……if it doesn’t pay off, he’s opened the gates of hell. “Russia delenda est” will become the catchphrase of the day.

Much like Hitler, who took reckless gambles which paid off handsomely initially but ultimately led to disaster.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:06:46am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He still has a lot of options up his sleeve, like declaring war as the result of a terror attack…

Maybe Trump can borrow a page from Putin’s playbook. Hey, it worked once…..why not again?

en.wikipedia.org

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:07:52am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He still has a lot of options up his sleeve, like declaring war as the result of a terror attack…

That play worked for Bush in getting re-elected.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:11:50am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He still has a lot of options up his sleeve, like declaring war as the result of a terror attack…

And another chaotic nightmare scenario: imagine if Trump loses in 2020, declares it was due to “massive voter fraud” and simply refuses to leave office?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:14:05am

re: #65 Big Beautiful Door

And another chaotic nightmare scenario: imagine if Trump loses in 2020, declares it was due to “massive voter fraud” and simply refuses to leave office?

Even if he does not actively promote that, he will hint at it enough and we will see a sizable body of armed and irascible people causing trouble over it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:18:31am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even if he does not actively promote that, he will hint at it enough and we will see a sizable body of armed and irascible people causing trouble over it.

Anything which further divides and weakens the US plays into Putin’s hand.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:21:04am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even if he does not actively promote that, he will hint at it enough and we will see a sizable body of armed and irascible people causing trouble over it.

Most will be chairborne rangers. Its the true believers that will be the problem. Reality isn’t something they are used to working with. The racists will of course know who to blame for the loss and act accordingly.

Oh and the new Democratic President will try and heal the wounds and will only get beaten up by the right for being weak.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:21:48am

re: #67 Big Beautiful Door

Anything which further divides and weakens the US plays into Putin’s hand.

in an ideal scene for him, US and Russia declare war on a common enemy, so True Americans (TM) can be patriotic and pro-Russian all at the same time

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:24:45am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in an ideal scene for him, US and Russia declare war on a common enemy, so True Americans (TM) can be patriotic and pro-Russian all at the same time

I can’t think of any possible targets other than a terrorist organization, since Iran is a Russian ally.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:28:54am

re: #70 Big Beautiful Door

I can’t think of any possible targets other than a terrorist organization, since Iran is a Russian ally.

German… Fits with Trump’s odd mindset.. (Maybe I read to much Tom Clancy when I was young)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:31:06am

re: #71 Kilroy was here

German… Fits with Trumps odd mindset.. (Maybe I read to much Tom Clancy when I was young)

Yeah, I can’t imagine any even faintly realistic scenario where we would go to war with Germany allied to Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:32:56am

re: #72 Big Beautiful Door

Yeah, I can’t imagine any even faintly realistic scenario where we would go to war with Germany allied to Russia.

they are full of refugees who use germany as a safe haven to plan attacks. germany refuses to crack down on them…

but yeah, pretty far-fetched

which is what we said about a lot of things that we all take for granted now…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:36:08am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are full of refugees who use germany as a safe haven to plan attacks. germany refuses to crack down on them…

but yeah, pretty far-fetched

which is what we said about a lot of things that we all take for granted now…

That would be a massive stretch even for Trump. But who knows who Trump might want to attack. Its been reported that he was surprised that none of our southern neighbors wanted him to invade Venezuela.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:39:57am

re: #74 Big Beautiful Door

That would be a massive stretch even for Trump. But who knows who Trump might want to attack. Its been reported that he was surprised that none of our southern neighbors wanted him to invade Venezuela.

I could see Trump trying to pull something in Central or South America. Venezuela, of course, is in full-on meltdown and things are getting…..interesting….in Nicaragua.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:45:04am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

I could see Trump trying to pull something in Central or South America. Venezuela, of course, is in full-on meltdown and things are getting…..interesting….in Nicaragua.

If he thinks he can unite the nation in support of a war in Central or South America, I think he’ll get a very unpleasant surprise.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 28, 2018 • 2:50:09am

Blaming Turkey for a terror attack would fit the bill.
Putin wants Turkey out of Nato. Nato might just sit any retaliation out.
Trump would have a chance to rant about the corrupt regime.
He gets to hate brown people and the world is a little less stable.

Oh and it would run gas prices up so Trump’s buddies would love it.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 3:31:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:00:01am

re: #77 Kilroy was here

Blaming Turkey for a terror attack would fit the bill.
Putin wants Turkey out of Nato. Nato might just sit any retaliation out.
Trump would have a chance to rant about the corrupt regime.
He gets to hate brown people and the world is a little less stable.

Oh and it would run gas prices up so Trump’s buddies would love it.

and then we could turn on the Kurds

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ericblair  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:12:19am

re: #77 Kilroy was here

Turkey won’t leave NATO. If they do, that means that they’re out and Greece is still in NATO. No way.

Putin is opportunistic and spiteful. He doesn’t think ahead: he saw an opportunity to hurt The Enemy and took it. The Russian powers that be don’t really understand what’s happening now, since they never could get their heads around separation of powers and rule of law. So Putin and the oligarchs are frustrated by Trump’s inability to deliver on lifting the sanctions and getting his own government to do what Putin wants him to do.

Having a weakened US doesn’t really solve any of Russia’s problems, because Russia’s problems are caused by Russia. It’s not going to help the economy, or the effects of rampant corruption, the health problems, population collapse, or the constant bleeding of troops and equipment due to minor wars Putin has started and can’t finish. It’s just spite and lust for power.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:17:01am

Disturbing review of hatred of gays in the early LDS:

History of Mormons and LGBT

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:18:24am

re: #81 freetoken

I haven’t read this, but this was a suitably controversial book by an LDS historian (who himself is gay):

amazon.com

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:19:14am

PS: he was of course excommunicated, tho not necessarily for this particular book.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:22:56am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:25:45am

re: #84 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

I see someone’s waiting for breakfast to be served.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:25:55am

BBL.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:33:18am

re: #82 Nyet

Mr. Atheist (in the video I linked) may have used that book in part as a source - I don’t know.

But the description of that book, and the video I linked, and pretty much everything else I’ve come across, points to the 1950’s as the era is the rise of the strident anti-gay attitude in this country.

This does not surprise me, as the 1950’s really were the turning point, being after WWII, the rise of television and plane travel, etc.

The world was becoming smaller, and scarier (nuclear war), and American society could no longer pretend to be the quaint farm-culture of the 18th century.

This directly gets us to today with Trump. His supporters are pining for a mythical good ol’ days, the days when a never-true idealism of Americana was used to manipulate the masses.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:33:18am

re: #81 freetoken

OK, the guy certainly knows his prophets and apostles. That was a good podcast.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:34:48am

re: #84 jeffreyw

Splendid cat.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:35:39am

re: #88 Nyet

I’m pushing him because his channel deserves more views.

As he notes, the youth suicide rate in Utah is ridiculously higher than the national average. This ought to be pointed out at the national level as a horrible shame.

Trump will not do this though, nor his fundamentalist sycophants.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:38:03am

re: #90 freetoken

Of course not. And that they don’t care is the best case scenario.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:39:01am

So I got a new Huawei phone. My first Android phone. Let’s see how it goes…

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:40:10am

re: #92 Nyet

Last year I bought my first tablet device, the bottom of the line Huawei. It works fine for what I ask of it, which is not much, just to browse online while at the library.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:40:28am

re: #26 MsJ

I’m watching Castle Rock, first two episodes, and this is some dark shit.

as soon as i wrap up my 7 days of binge-watching star trek discovery on amazon’s cbs channel, i’ll probably pick hulu back up. there are a new couple of series, including that one, that I want to see now. I don’t really want to spend a hundred bucks a month on various streaming services, so I rotate through them as new stuff appears.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:48:07am

re: #40 teleskiguy

So, Twitter arbitrarily put this tweet o’ mine into their “Moments” algorithm. It’s been retweeted over 230 times, liked over 1,200 times, one of my most popular tweets.

[Embedded content]

I didn’t ask for it. I guess people really check Twitter Moments. I’ve never ever checked Twitter Moments (the icon is a lighting bolt), until this morning ‘cause my notifications were coming in fast and furious.

Karl Benz built an automobile in 1885. Even when Twitter tries to be helpful, it just helps spread bad info.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:57:40am

re: #84 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

“Who….me? I was just looking for a sunny spot and…..oh my! a bird feeder!! No, why that never entered my mind. Sir, I protest!! What do you take me for?”

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:58:13am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

I see someone’s waiting for breakfast to be served.

“Get in mah belly!” - commenter in every food sub-reddit

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:58:33am

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

If he thinks he can unite the nation in support of a war in Central or South America, I think hope he’ll get a very unpleasant surprise.

Fixed just because I am not sure how what the insaninty level in the US currently is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:59:16am

re: #94 steve_davis

as soon as i wrap up my 7 days of binge-watching star trek discovery on amazon’s cbs channel, i’ll probably pick hulu back up. there are a new couple of series, including that one, that I want to see now. I don’t really want to spend a hundred bucks a month on various streaming services, so I rotate through them as new stuff appears.

I enjoyed as much of Discovery as I watched (most of first season) and look forward to seeing more of it.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2018 • 4:59:47am

re: #89 Nyet

Splendid cat.

Nah, that’s Homer. He’s an asshole.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2018 • 5:02:18am

re: #92 Nyet

re: #93 freetoken

China thanks you.

Seriously, though, at least two of my former students now work for Huawei, so they’d be happy at your purchases.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 5:14:06am

re: #48 fern01

Has trump said a single word about the fires? 2014 the GOP would be blaming Obama for them, while the latter would be sending much needed help.

trump is playing golf and talking about MAGA rallies.

Relatives posting on Facebook cheering the weenie roast as Gawd’s punishment for such a heathen state…and they don’t realize that it’s the red part of this state that’s getting burned!

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 5:25:33am

re: #101 wheat-dogg

Hey, it’s just good, if the others can’t keep up…

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2018 • 5:25:55am

Public Service Announcement:

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2018 • 5:56:02am

I’m in Shenzhen, China, now, where the heat is eased somewhat by breezes off the Pearl River Delta. Still humid as a sauna, though.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:06:54am

re: #105 wheat-dogg

Where I am in Europe is also hot, but I’m loving it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:12:21am

re: #106 Nyet

Where I am in Europe is also hot, but I’m loving it.

some showers blew through here on the Rhine and pushed temps back down into the 80’s, been upper 90’s all week…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:17:24am

Morning Lizardim.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:19:32am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sry I can’t think in Fahrenheit.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:20:39am

re: #109 Nyet

Sry I can’t think in Fahrenheit.

Upper 30s C?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:22:00am

re: #110 Jay C

Upper 30s C?

Lower 30’s C. 90 degrees F = 32.2 degrees C.

Also, Morning Sergey.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:22:46am

re: #110 Jay C

Yep.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:23:02am

re: #111 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hey.

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:29:47am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 6:35:09am

re: #114 Nyet

My new page:

How Twitter Collaborates With Neo-Nazis.

@jack has made it clear which side he is on.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:02:30am

Japan being hit by typhoon Jongdari.

Not unusual for Japan to get a typhoon. But this one is moving from east to west/south-west, rather atypical:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:04:20am

re: #14 SteelPH

Displaying once again that conservatives have no standards.

I think it’s more a matter of the candidate pool being extremely shallow.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:13:05am

re: #84 jeffreyw

Hmm. The story that image seems to tell. Well fed chubby cat, lounging after a meal, a bird feeder and… No birds.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:13:38am

re: #114 Nyet

Fwiw on my FB public. Where I have been engaging red hats.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:16:01am

re: #40 teleskiguy

So, Twitter arbitrarily put this tweet o’ mine into their “Moments” algorithm. It’s been retweeted over 230 times, liked over 1,200 times, one of my most popular tweets.

The invention of the automobile, TV, and the internet. Two world wars. Here’s something, think about how many humans have died while this woman was alive.

I didn’t ask for it. I guess people really check Twitter Moments. I’ve never ever checked Twitter Moments (the icon is a lighting bolt), until this morning ‘cause my notifications were coming in fast and furious.

You left out — from the wright brothers’ first flight… to landing on the moon, construction of the space station, Mars rovers and commercialized spaceflight.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:26:01am

re: #80 ericblair

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Putin is opportunistic and spiteful. He doesn’t think ahead:

I think you’re mistaken; he does think ahead. Russia grows chess players the way we grow People of Walmart.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:26:05am

re: #8 JordanRules

Me too!
I don’t know why I spelled it like that either.

Because of all the Ivans in the Trump campaign.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:27:53am

re: #84 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

No birds in the picture, and a cat that looks like it just popped a jeans button after Thanksgiving dinner…

You’re getting dark, dude.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:31:15am

re: #40 teleskiguy

So, Twitter arbitrarily put this tweet o’ mine into their “Moments” algorithm. It’s been retweeted over 230 times, liked over 1,200 times, one of my most popular tweets.

[Embedded content]

I didn’t ask for it. I guess people really check Twitter Moments. I’ve never ever checked Twitter Moments (the icon is a lighting bolt), until this morning ‘cause my notifications were coming in fast and furious.

Even in terms of Japanese history, Chiyo Miyako’s lifespan was remarkable: when she was born, it had been just 48 years since Commodore Perry’s fateful visit to Tokyo/Edo: the Satsuma Rebellion - last gasp of pre-modern Japan - had been just 24 years prior to her birth, well within range of survivor accounts: the Emperor Meiji - the now-near-legendary linking ruler of Old and New Japan would die
when she was 11 years old (Queen Victoria had died just 4 months before Chiyo was born). 117 years covers a LOT of history.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:39:45am

re: #118 Unshaken Defiance

Hmm. The story that image seems to tell. Well fed chubby cat, lounging after a meal, a bird feeder and… No birds.

Fake news!

Imgur

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:40:40am
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MsJ  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:43:24am

re: #114 Nyet

My new page:

How Twitter Collaborates With Neo-Nazis.

Their stock went down hard yesterday. I’m wondering if that might finally help them decide to do something about their Nazi problem.

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The Major  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:49:31am

philly.com: ‘A political revolution’: Meet the left-wing group that’s slaying Democratic giants in Philly

Nikil Saval is opening up to dozens of people about one of the most harrowing experiences of his family’s life.

He’s at a city rec center, where the left-wing group Reclaim Philadelphia is meeting, on a muggy June night. Technically, the 35-year-old literary magazine editor is speaking about the dearth of affordable housing. But instead of simply rattling off wonky statistics, he’s talking about the fact that his parents were forced to leave the country after costs skyrocketed in their Los Angeles neighborhood.

“They sold their house and moved back to India,” Saval said, “abandoning their 30-year-long project to make a permanent life in the United States.”

Through the evening, young leader after young leader of Reclaim Philadelphia shares the experiences that have fueled their political activism. A man tells the crowd his mother was arrested on Christmas Eve for driving a car involved in a robbery, and why that inspires his fight for criminal justice reform. A woman talks about being raped in college, and how that powers her work against sexual violence.

It’s gritty, emotional, it speaks to the almost surprisingly vulnerable — and it’s working.

Reclaim Philadelphia has been a major force behind the left wing’s biggest victories in the city in recent years. Larry Krasner, the progressive district attorney, said the organization played a “key role” in his 2017 victory by harnessing “populist and grassroots energy.” In the spring, Reclaim’s members provided critical support to Democrats Elizabeth Fiedler and Joe Hohenstein, who both won primaries for the state legislature against candidates backed by the city’s powerful electricians union.

Today, Reclaim Philadelphia has about 350 dues-paying members, plus an extra few hundred or so who participate regularly, McIllmurray said. It is officially a chapter of Our Revolution, the national political organization formed out of Sanders’ campaign.

The group has also won admiration from some of its former foes. “Reclaim is just checking the oil under our hoods,” said John Dougherty, leader of the city’s electricians union. “I respect what they’re doing.”

After such a big couple years, what’s next?

Rick Krajewski, a criminal justice organizer for Reclaim, said the group is about to launch a program to help support families of prisoners. Members are also thinking about how they can use 2019 — when Mayor Kenney and Council members are up for reelection — “as a way to really make a progressive push in Philadelphia,” he said.

Krajewski said the group does have an internal issue: It needs to diversify. At the June meeting, one member told attendants that the room was too white.

“It’s absolutely a problem,” said Krajewski. “Reclaim leadership is very clear that we need a multi-class, multi-racial movement if we want to create change. … We need to be talking about racial justice, economic justice, education justice, and we need to talk about it in ways that people directly relate to.”

Observers will likewise be watching to see whether Reclaim Philadelphia can expand its power beyond changing neighborhoods in South Philly and the River Wards.

Louis Agre, a longtime ward leader, said Reclaim’s economic message can resonate with more traditional Democrats: “They believe in fair taxation, jobs for young people, and a lot of the things that Reclaim believes in. … They’re hopefully the future of the party.” But the organization may find it more challenging to win over those voters on “some of the social issues,” he said.

Reclaim Philadelphia’s leaders and endorsed candidates said they aren’t taking anything for granted.

“Someone in the political establishment suggested that my victory was a fluke, a onetime thing,” said Fiedler. “I do not believe that is true. But I would say that it is up to all of us and our neighbors to decide what happens next.”

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ericblair  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:53:46am

re: #121 sagehen

I think you’re mistaken; he does think ahead. Russia grows chess players the way we grow People of Walmart.

Sure, a lot of people in Russia play chess. If you think this is meaningful, Putin doesn’t play chess, though: he’s a judoku. In judo, you react and don’t think more than a couple of seconds ahead.

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unproven innocence  Jul 28, 2018 • 7:55:19am

re: #124 Jay C

Even in terms of Japanese history, Chiyo Miyako’s lifespan was remarkable: when she was born, it had been just 48 years since Commodore Perry’s fateful visit to Tokyo/Edo: the Satsuma Rebellion - last gasp of pre-modern Japan - had been just 24 years prior to her birth, well within range of survivor accounts: the Emperor Meiji - the now-near-legendary linking ruler of Old and New Japan would die
when she was 11 years old (Queen Victoria had died just 4 months before Chiyo was born). 117 years covers a LOT of history.

A few years back I read that, of all humans who have ever lived, about 1 in 25 (or 4%) are alive now. (I think it was Toffler’s Future Shock.) As for Chiyo, I suppose it is safe to assert that, of all humans who have ever lived, more than [edit]10% 7% have shared her timeline.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:04:14am

re: #129 ericblair

Sure, a lot of people in Russia play chess. If you think this is meaningful, Putin doesn’t play chess, though: he’s a judoku. In judo, you react and don’t think more than a couple of seconds ahead.

Plus the fact that chess requires difficult analysis, but there are no unknowns, and no element of chance (plus there are only two players). So it’s a lousy model of the real world.

Also, good morning from (for the moment) cloud-covered Southern California. I flew in yesterday from the chilly Bay Area to the roasting south, and this is a nice compromise while it lasts.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:04:31am

Anyone want to tell him?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:11:51am

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

There’s also the fact that a 30-day suspension from Facebook isn’t even equivalent to a slap on the wrist. It’s almost more like protective custody - “In order to keep you from getting your ass beaten to a pulp, we’re taking you off of FB for 30 days to cool off.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:19:54am

re: #116 freetoken

Japan being hit by typhoon Jongdari.

Not unusual for Japan to get a typhoon. But this one is moving from east to west/south-west, rather atypical:

[Embedded content]

And I hear the area it is aiming for has had some bad flooding the last month, and this will not help at all. Hope all there make it through as safely as possible.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:20:45am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:26:51am

re: #135 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sounds like a weather report. No shock, no outrage. This is what we’ve come to.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:30:20am

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

Of course Ted understands that Facebook not only has a right to ban Jones but also has a responsibility to do so.

Yet what Ted wants to do is to play the victimization card that is now so popular in the right-wing, as they are discovering they can’t have their way in everything.

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:31:17am

re: #125 jeffreyw

Fake news!

[Embedded content]

I’m always suspicious of the fat cats (that one looks like it has a decent KBMI).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:32:26am

re: #138 wrenchwench

I’m always suspicious of the fat cats (that one looks like it has a decent KBMI).

Nuh-uh. It’s the healthiest cat ever! Dr. Ronnie Jackson said so! He’s the best doctor! SAD!

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:35:08am

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nuh-uh. It’s the healthiest cat ever! Dr. Ronnie Jackson said so! He’s the best doctor! SAD!

Right. And as he gazes at the tiny house on the table, he’s not dreaming of the birds of yore, he’s wondering how to get in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:38:24am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:40:17am

So I see our American civil war is underway, much like the new cold war the big guns (for now) are digital. Twitter. Voting machines. Homwrecker dot com Facebook. Blogs and real actual black hat assaults on data and hardware.

I was reading about a woman real estate agent that was near ruined by a stranger on the internet. I expect some additional professional backlash from my personal anti Trump drumbeat.

We each in our own small way have the same choice as governments now. Shall a response to a digital attack be limited to the digital world? Of course every situation is different in detail. But I would never ever make the promise to keep it electronic and non real world.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 8:47:02am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:02:53am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:04:55am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:13:59am
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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:15:56am

re: #84 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Slacker Cat…just chillin’.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:16:48am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Slacker Cat…just chillin’.

More like lying in wait.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:19:02am

Le sigh. 😢

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:27:34am

re: #148 MsJ

More like lying in wait.

A waiting cat ready to pounce is crouched down on it’s belly, legs cocked, ready to spring.

Jeffrey’s cat Homer is more like ‘whatever’ I’ll get around to moving when I’m damn ready.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:31:35am

What a F world we live in.

Ted Cruz will speak up for Alex Jones, but not for children separated from their parents.

Reason number 4567888999 I’m a liberal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:32:53am

She probably got a job with the Trump campaign

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:35:05am

What a disgusting vile man:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:50:59am

re: #153 electrotek

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unproven innocence  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:56:20am

State Govts. Warned of Malware-Laden CD Sent Via Snail Mail from China
From the article,

The first of Krebs’s 3 Basic Rules for Online Safety — “If you didn’t go looking for it don’t install it” — applies just as well here: If you didn’t go looking for it, don’t insert it or open it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 28, 2018 • 9:58:03am

DT is banning reporters. Washington Post article at this link.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:01:22am

he is insane

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:03:16am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, he’s comparing refugees to the 9/11 murderers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:04:00am

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

JFC, he’s comparing refugees to the 9/11 murderers.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:04:25am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Typical blood-libel exercise.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:04:42am

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

You expected something different? That is what he is all about.

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:05:58am

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

JFC, he’s comparing refugees to the 9/11 murderers.

If we don’t put the babies in the cages, it will be worse than 9/11, let me tell you!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:06:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:08:52am

or a pole dancer…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:12:43am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be perfectly honest, the Republicans were furiously outraged every time Obama did ANYTHING. Especially breathing. Oh, they hated that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:38:14am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:39:38am
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electrotek  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:01:09am

I’m losing more and more respect for this woman, who is more interested in coddling with far-right Islamophobic pieces of shit:

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:02:29am

Even worse, she’s being supported by Robert Spencer of all people:

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retired cynic  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:04:28am

Found a new MAGA acronym!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:10:49am

The more I hear this band the more I like them. “Big Something”, N. Carolina band

They have a distinctive “big sound” IMHO. I think they are worth watching how they mature. Some good talent here.

Big Something - Saturday Night Zombie (Live) 9/30/17 Greensboro, NC

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:11:59am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:14:04am
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JordanRules  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:18:28am

re: #173 Single-handed sailor

A mess!

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:20:37am

re: #174 JordanRules

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A mess!

Maggie?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:21:02am

I thought Kushner’s policy area was harassing tenants until they left rent-controlled apartments in buildings he’d purchased.

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JordanRules  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:21:45am

re: #175 Teukka

Maggie?

Yes

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:22:12am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

I thought Kushner’s policy area was harassing tenants until they left rent-controlled apartments in buildings he’d purchased.

Also pumping foreign governments for loans under the guise of diplomacy.

He belongs in prison.

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retired cynic  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:29:56am

Drama! The barn swallows in the nest just above my office window fledged just now, and they are learning to fly by “winging it,” so to speak. They get down about three feet above the ground and then really have to put the foot down to get back up to a safer height, where the cats can’t get them.

This is the second clutch — litter — crop? of the year. The parents come back year after year, and are quite adept at raising little ones.

edited “winder” !

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:30:53am

Since Joe Bacon and Dave In Austin broke into some tunes…time to join in and share.

My guitar jamming buddy told me about this performance last night. So I dug up the video and thought others might enjoy it. These guys are keeping a certain sound and style going. I bet everyone can guess who!

From just the other night on The Tonight Show with Jimmy.

Greta Van Fleet: When the Curtain Falls

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:32:54am

Now these are duck lips.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:34:52am

re: #169 electrotek

Even worse, she’s being supported by Robert Spencer of all people:

[Embedded content]

Ugh, yeah, if Robert Spencer gives you a glowing review, you know you’ve gone terribly wrong somewhere.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:37:03am

re: #181 Skip Intro

Now these are duck lips.

[Embedded content]

Melt it down and there is enough plastic for 100 Barbie dolls.

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retired cynic  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:38:56am

re: #181 Skip Intro

Now these are duck lips.

[Embedded content]

Ugh. Don’t like to criticize people’s looks, BUT, she opted to have that look surgically installed. How gross!

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:40:31am

re: #182 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh, yeah, if Robert Spencer gives you a glowing review, you know you’ve gone terribly wrong somewhere.

More like the other way around, but yeah.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:40:42am

re: #181 Skip Intro

Now these are duck lips.

[Embedded content]

When I was checking my email this morning the landing page for ATT/Yahoo had a story about her being pushed out as much as quitting Fox News.

I guess they were trying to get her for sexual misconduct

I didn’t read the details, don’t care. She’s from Fox, she knows the culture there…so maybe she thought she fit.

She’s all Trump now and her and Donny Jr will run to the altar to get married before Jr. ends up is jail.

Sounds like they will be good for each other….for awhile.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:43:34am

re: #173 Single-handed sailor

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It’s Saturday, so it’s time for a puff piece about Ivanka and Jared. This one is especially nauseating—including things like:

They live in a rented mansion in the Kalorama neighborhood, where they have courted groups of lawmakers and Washington hands in an effort to ease hyperpartisan tensions over cocktails and comfort food.

Ah, how homey—cocktails and comfort food (surprised there isn’t a photo of one of Vanky’s centerpieces.)

And this bit of fanciful exploration:

Mr. Kushner appears to see himself as the custodian of Mr. Trump’s political brand, offering his father-in-law “options,” and has spoken about clearing out the Republican Party of lingering resistance. He has privately said that he has been taking action against “incompetence” and that any tensions are a result of fighting for his father-in-law’s best interests.

Pretty funny that Jared is taking action against incompetence. Look in the mirror, boyo. Of course, the only confirmation of this comes through a Jared spokesperson, because Jared and Vanky were just too busy to comment for this article.

Then there’s a list of all of Javanka’s enemies within, followed by this tremendous insight:

Both husband and wife, like Mr. Trump, are said to hang on to grudges, but Mr. Kushner is far more transactional than his wife. Like his father-in-law, he appears to convince himself that fights did not happen if someone has become useful to him.

And the capper is the final line, about what Vanky really brings to the party, talking about her fabulous work with Susan Collins:

And so Ms. Trump has delivered one of the few things she can uniquely accomplish in Washington: Riding in a car together one day, she handed Ms. Collins a phone. The president was on the line.

I know there was discussion earlier about how terrible is that some of us “hate on” Maggie Haberman and how it’s misogynistic. I dislike her and much of her reporting for the following reasons:

1. She writes like a gossip columnist—usually much more taken with palace intrigue than actual news.
2. She regularly writes fluffers about Jared and Ivanka—with little value, little fact. (She’s tweeted about this story 6 times so far today.)
3. Any time she’s called out for anything, she is totally defensive, snotty and condescending.
4. I’ve seen, first-hand, how she can take a 20-minute interview and turn it into a 3-word quote that is the opposite of what was said, but fits her pre-conceived frame for an article.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:44:05am

re: #185 electrotek

More like the other way around, but yeah.

Oh, okay, now I get the timeline. DNRTFA.

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mmmirele  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:44:49am

re: #169 electrotek

She doesn’t want to see her husband again? Seriously, this is incredibly stupid.

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:47:37am

re: #188 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, okay, now I get the timeline. DNRTFA.

DNR;TFA? Gotcha.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:48:40am

Heh…I didn’t know the Greta Van Fleet singer, lead and bass are all brothers from Michigan.

I wonder if they ever suffer from those brother on brother fights?

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Nyet  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:49:21am

Thanks, Charles. It’s crazy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:54:14am

re: #192 Nyet

Thanks, Charles. It’s crazy.

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Wait, you got suspended because you called that asshole a nutjob? SERIOUSLY?! This is why I don’t Twitter, y’all.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:57:12am

re: #193 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, you got suspended because you called that asshole a nutjob? SERIOUSLY?! This is why I don’t Twitter, y’all.

Their policy is a joke. They’d be more honest if they just said it was a free-for-all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 11:58:01am

re: #194 ObserverArt

Their policy is a joke. They’d be more honest if they just said it was a free-for-all.

It’s a libertarian utopia. Which explains exactly why they have an infestation of neo-Nazis and other far-right douchecanoes.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:02:22pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:03:52pm

re: #195 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s a libertarian utopia. Which explains exactly why they have an infestation of neo-Nazis and other far-right douchecanoes.

Seems it isn’t just limited to them. It appears there is an asshole or thousand for everything.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:05:40pm

re: #197 ObserverArt

Seems it isn’t just limited to them. It appears there is an asshole or thousand for everything.

Oh, very much so. The Left has its own share of haters, and even to the point where everything falls off the political spectrum at the back and “left” and “right” cease to have meaning in the deepest realms of the crazy ocean.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:06:45pm

re: #174 JordanRules

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A mess!

for fuck’s sake, Maggie…

Ivanka is closing the fashion brand because nobody’s buying her crap. Are you rally going to pretend nobody knew that?

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The Major  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:08:26pm

What is really starting to annoy me is that on some blogs I visit, they engage in the old tried-and-true schtik when it comes to the former people running US Intelligence of ‘giving a dog a bad name and hanging it’.

It’s like throwing the baby out with the bathwater - and simply because of what Assange/Snowden/Binney et. al. perpetrated.

Just shoot me now….

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:09:55pm

re: #200 The Major

What is really starting to annoy me is that on some blogs I visit, they engage in the old tried-and-true schtik when it comes to the former people running US Intelligence of ‘giving a dog a bad name and hanging it’.

It’s like throwing the baby out with the bathwater - and simply because of what Assange/Snowden/Binney et. al. perpetrated.

Just shoot me now….

You mean as in they won’t trust the intel community even if their lives depended on it?

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:13:30pm

re: #199 sagehen

for fuck’s sake, Maggie…

Ivanka is closing the fashion brand because nobody’s buying her crap. Are you rally going to pretend nobody knew that?

You’re not calling Maggie a liar I hope.

I think it must be a common error of admission. Just a little factoid left lying on the editing floor. It wasn’t needed because it didn’t add to the story!

Besides, why kick Ivanka when she’s down?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:17:59pm

re: #202 ObserverArt

You’re not calling Maggie a liar I hope.

I think it must be a common error of admission. Just a little factoid left lying on the editing floor. It wasn’t needed because it didn’t add to the story!

Besides, why kick Ivanka when she’s down?

When did they define “down” down? //

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The Major  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:24:39pm

re: #201 Teukka

You mean as in they won’t trust the intel community even if their lives depended on it?

Ah-yup - that’s what it looks like to me.

BTW, someone posted all episodes of the ABC mini-series ‘Amerika’ up to Youtube, where in the 2nd episode Robert Urich in his role was talking to Sam Neill (who plays excellent Russian characters)…

Urich: “You got the drop on us…”
Neill: “I don’t believe it - you lost your country before we even got here.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2018 • 12:27:18pm

I thought people around here were complaining about 40% humidity. But it’s only 35% right now. You’d think some people never go anywhere else to see what HUMIDITY feels like. I know they’re used to single digit humidity, but come on.

So I complain about them. Must be a pretty nice day if THIS is what we complain about. It’s my lunch break, I’m going to go out to see if I can find a life that I can get.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2018 • 1:22:22pm

re: #199 sagehen

for fuck’s sake, Maggie…

Ivanka is closing the fashion brand because nobody’s buying her crap. Are you rally going to pretend nobody knew that?

This is why I have not one good thing to say about Haberman.

Not due to irrational hate or misogyny. She’s either barely competent, or she wants to be BFFs with the Trumps. She’s a disgrace to journalism.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2018 • 10:34:38pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

Now these are duck lips.

[Embedded content]

kinda looks scary to me.


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