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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:02:46am

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:03:13am

Mark Meadows…right off the bat.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:04:36am

Procedural bullshit from Meadows right out of the box. Get ready for every Republican to try and pull this shit.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:05:05am

re: #2 ObserverArt

Mark Meadows…right off the bat.

Does he think that postponing things by one day will change things?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:05:21am

Mark Meadows is a fucking joke.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:05:45am

Good morning/afternoon folks!
Got my drink ready, think we’re sorted for the show… :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:05:57am

Oh geez.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:01am

Welcome to the shitshow.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:05am

Jordan, still a dick.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:21am

And Jim Jordan. The Trump protectors.

Fuck these guys. Carry on!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:41am

The whole GOP is complicit.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:44am

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

Mark Meadows is a fucking joke.

Feeling pretty good that these guys don’t have the gavels anymore. At least in this branch of Congress.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:06:45am

re: #4 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Does he think that postponing things by one day will change things?

It’s about avoiding the embarrassment of Donny on the day when he’s engaged in “vital negotiations” with Kim.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:07:00am

re: #4 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Does he think that postponing things by one day will change things?

It will give time for Gaetz’s hired goons to show up.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:07:29am

re: #4 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Does he think that postponing things by one day will change things?

Always works for the Mob.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:07:34am

re: #4 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Does he think that postponing things by one day will change things?

Desperation.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:08:26am

Just realizing why Capitol Hill was so busy this morning during my commute….

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:08:46am

re: #16 Scottish Dragon

Yes they are desperate.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:08:50am

They delayed it 2 minutes. lol

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:09:32am

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

They delayed it 2 minutes. lol

Just to own the libs.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:09:48am

re: #16 Scottish Dragon

Or they’re not quite finished preparing the getaway.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:10:00am

Can the NBC crew just shut the fuck up for a minute?

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CongoJack  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:10:49am

Gah… the feed is gettin an error every so often here. Have to reload the page to get it to work.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:10:59am

(Paraphrased) “We’re not trying to stop this, we’re just wanting to follow the rules!”

Who knew the GOP had a sense of humor?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:11:01am

re: #22 makeitstop

Can the NBC crew just shut the fuck up for a minute?

MSNBC has no chatter

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:11:24am

re: #24 Targetpractice

(Paraphrased) “We’re not trying to stop this, we’re just wanting to follow the rules!”

Who knew the GOP had a sense of humor?

“We’re not trying to stop this, you’re trying to stop this!”

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:11:55am

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

MSNBC has no chatter

Cool, thanks. I didn’t want to hear Chuck Todd idiotsplaining everything.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:12:43am

Here is the WaPo link: washingtonpost.com

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:13:24am

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

MSNBC has no chatter

Yep. Almost feels like a CSPAN broadcast, except for the superior camera angles and the chyrons.

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Alephnaught  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:14:52am

Heh. Was this tweet before Cohen’s statement or after?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:15:55am

re: #30 Alephnaught

Word is already on the street - #CohenTestimony to be a huge dud.

Once again, Trump leaves #TheResistance at the impeachment altar. How much of this disappointment can the Democrat base take?

— Bill Mitchell

Sure, Jan

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:16:45am

Is anyone else hearing an echo with the feed?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:17:12am

re: #30 Alephnaught

Heh. Was this tweet before Cohen’s statement or after?

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What an idiot.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:17:49am

“The days of this committee protecting the president at all costs are over!”

This man is a national treasure.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:17:56am

re: #30 Alephnaught

Heh. Was this tweet before Cohen’s statement or after?

[Embedded content]

Word on the street probably means he is listening only to FOX and Freedom Caucus Congress members.

And Jacob Wohl reports from the hipster coffeehouses.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:18:04am

re: #32 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Is anyone else hearing an echo with the feed?

yup

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:18:21am

‘The days of this committee protecting the president at all costs are over.’

You tell ‘em, Mr. Chairman.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:18:39am

re: #36 KerFuFFler

yup

Thanks. I was wondering if it was my problem. Well, I guess it IS my problem, but you know what I mean.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:18:40am

re: #32 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Is anyone else hearing an echo with the feed?

I am not hearing an echo. Watching the WP feed

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:19:22am
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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:19:54am

Oh, FUCK YOU GYM JORDAN.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:20:05am
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:20:06am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:20:06am

re: #34 Targetpractice

“The days of this committee protecting the president at all costs are over!”

This man is a national treasure.

Cummings is one of the of Pelosi’s best lieutenants. Guy is a helluva legislator.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:21:12am

Gym Jordan is hard to hear with his head up Trump’s ass.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:21:13am

FUCK GYM JORDAN. (and put on a suit jacket, you utterly creepy moron)

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:21:30am

Dog almighty, I freaking hate Gym Jordan…

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:21:57am

Jordan has run irony over with a bus and is backing up and hitting it again.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:21:59am

Good god. I cannot listen to this disgusting pontificating by Gym Jordan.

Fuck this guy.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:22:03am

Just another angry white guy.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:22:18am

Gym basically being the mouthpiece of the whole of his party, by which I mean he’s spewing bile at a breakneck speed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:22:41am

Yeah Jimmy, but America wonders who Cohen lied for. We know he admitted why he lied. To protect your boy Trump.

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Jay C  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:22:46am
re: #169 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, do I have it right, some of the national TV networks will be carrying Cohen’s testimony in front of Congress today?

I thought I heard the NBC crew say it was going to be on at 10 AM.

I hope so, because America needs to see and hear this.

I sure hope this is the real start of the end of Trump.

CBS, NBC and ABC all have it. Fox has it, too. Wow.

I truly hate to have to say it, but - much as I wish your scenario to materialize - I have a feeling that very little is likely to change as a result of Michael Cohen’s testimony. Regardless of whatever he will testify to in front of Congress and the public, they are (IMO) unlikely to substantively change anybody’s opinions. The Trump base/cult (and most of GOP officialdom) are hopeless: they’ll either ignore or willfully disbelieve any negative revelations, and, if in office, vigorously work to negate any action on them. Those who hate/disbelieve Trump will have their suspicions conformed (naturally) - but the “end of Trump” is (again, just IMHO) going to depend - entirely - on whether or not any actual criminal activity can be pinned on the POTUS personally. And more importantly, even if those activities can be proven, getting an indictment. And then, getting a resolution of impeachment based on that indictment. And then, making it stick.
Maybe this is too negative an assessment, but then again, Donald Trump’s prejudice, dishonesty, and general sleaze were known qualities well before the 2016 election, and millions of people (who should have known better) voted for him anyway. I’m not sure if Michael Cohen is going to change many (if any) minds.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:23:13am

Jordan looks like the kind of guy who would be an asshole and then shocks you by being an even bigger one.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:23:46am

And as Gym pontificates about future prison inmates, if there were any justice, he’d be one himself.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:23:55am

Jim Jordan:
Lanny Davis, Tom Steyer….
Oh, now Clinton…
Wow… Steele… Fake dossier.

I can see where this is going…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:24:05am

Fake Dossier! Drink!

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:24:17am

HE’S MOVING TO FUCKING ADJOURN WITHOUT TESTIMONY!?!

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:24:39am

Cummings slapping Jordan down. Good.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:24:56am

re: #56 Ming5000

Jim Jordan:
Lanny Davis, Tom Steyer….
Oh, now Clinton…
Wow… Steele… Fake dossier.

I can see where this is going…

Clinton Foundation? Emails? Private Server?

/

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:25:43am

Jordan is Joe McCarthy without the excuse of being a drunk. He’s just an asshole. Boehner was wrong about a lot as Speaker but even he saw what a prick that guy is.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:26:07am

Here we go…swearing Says Who in.

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:26:09am

LOL! Jordan runs through 3 minutes of right-wing bullshit, and then ends with “we’re better than this. We’re better than this.” Yeah, apparently not.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:27:28am

re: #63 steve_davis

LOL! Jordan runs through 3 minutes of right-wing bullshit, and then ends with “we’re better than this. We’re better than this.” Yeah, apparently not.

“We’re better than this” says the guy who sat there and had no problem with Cohen lying to Congress when the committee was under Nunes’ control.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:27:30am

re: #53 Jay C

Well, the fact that Jordan and the others are trying to stop Cohen from testifying clearly indicates there’s something worth listening to it. I doubt it will change much because I’m sure Fox will talk about pandas instead, but getting it out in one long testimony will definitely be worth it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:27:45am

re: #63 steve_davis

LOL! Jordan runs through 3 minutes of right-wing bullshit, and then ends with “we’re better than this. We’re better than this.” Yeah, apparently not.

He has no shame at all does he? Not hard to see why he did what he did as a coach. Not craven enough to do the actual crime but craven enough to cover up.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:27:56am

re: #63 steve_davis

LOL! Jordan runs through 3 minutes of right-wing bullshit, and then ends with “we’re better than this. We’re better than this.” Yeah, apparently not.

YOUR HONOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A DIRECTED VERDICT. THANK YOU.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:28:33am

They are really in the Lanny Davis weeds.

Historian Kevin Kruze is right…the GOP has become that alien race from Star Trek TNG that speaks in allegory that only other members of the race can understand:

Shaka, when the walls fell.
Clinton on the tarmac.
Lanny Davis, he did something
Benghazi, conspiracy it was.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:28:39am

re: #65 Belafon

Well, the fact that Jordan and the others are trying to stop Cohen from testifying clearly indicates there’s something worth listening to it. I doubt it will change much because I’m sure Fox will talk about pandas instead, but getting it out in one long testimony will definitely be worth it.

THE TESTIMONY’S A DUD! WORD ON THE STREET!

SHUT UP! ADJOURN! ADJOURN!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:29:33am

re: #53 Jay C

I truly hate to have to say it, but - much as I wish your scenario to materialize - I have a feeling that very little is likely to change as a result of Michael Cohen’s testimony. …. I’m not sure if Michael Cohen is going to change many (if any) minds.

Exactly. He is telling us nothing we do not know already.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:30:00am
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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:31:05am

re: #71 Scottish Dragon

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Of course. They want people to conclude that both sides engaged in theatrics and thus the whole thing was a wash.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:31:21am

Thr Repugs still have a dilemma, of course. Cohen is now saying he was lying when he said DT was innocent. But if he was lying then, they’re saying DT is a crook, and if he’s lying now, he was telling the truth then, and if…

Repugs have been showing us for years that they don’t care about little discrepancies like that, but I hope the Dems keep reminding them.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:31:53am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly. He is telling us nothing we do not already know.

But there are people out there who haven’t been paying attention like we have.

If he succeeds in facing up to Jordan and Meadows, this testimony will be a game-changer. Cohen is a corrupt motherfucker, but he’s smarter than Gym Fuckin’ Jordan.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:31:58am

re: #67 Sir John Barron

YOUR HONOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A DIRECTED VERDICT. THANK YOU.

He wants a bad court thingy because they’re the judge and he’s the law talking guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:31:59am

re: #71 Scottish Dragon

Republicans will win a big victory if this hearing becomes what news anchors tonight call “a circus.” If the hearing process can become a separate story, e.g. the circus story, then it’s one less story about what Cohen actually said. That’s what’s driving this theatrical stuff.

It worked with Kavanaugh. As long as they can spin it off into He said /(s)he said” then the Both Sides Press will do the rest of their work for them.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:32:02am

re: #72 Targetpractice

Of course. They want people to conclude that both sides engaged in theatrics and thus the whole thing was a wash.

THIS WHOLE CIRCUS OF A HEARING THAT WE MADE A CIRCUS WAS A REAL CIRCUS REAL SHAME!

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:32:07am

re: #63 steve_davis

LOL! Jordan runs through 3 minutes of right-wing bullshit, and then ends with “we’re better than this. We’re better than this.” Yeah, apparently not.

Some of us are.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:32:50am

Trump’s personal lawyers have to be guilty of something by changing Moscow deal dates

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:33:00am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly. He is telling us nothing we do not know already.

For you that might be the case. But all of America doesn’t pay attention to this like you do. Step outside your own situation for once and look at the larger picture.

Much of this will all be new to a lot of people that do not pay attention.

Those are the same people that voted for Trump because they didn’t know anything about him.

Today many new people are going to learn.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:33:06am

re: #68 Scottish Dragon

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:33:45am

re: #81 lawhawk

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

His arms open wide

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:34:02am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It worked with Kavanaugh. As long as they can spin it off into He said /(s)he said” then the Both Sides Press will do the rest of their work for them.

Did it work with Kavanaugh? Yes he was ultimately confirmed and the Republicans increased their number in the Senate but far more Americans voted Democratic for the Senate than Republicans.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:34:32am

re: #68 Scottish Dragon

They are really in the Lanny Davis weeds.

Historian Kevin Kruze is right…the GOP has become that alien race from Star Trek TNG that speaks in allegory that only other members of the race can understand:

Shaka, when the walls fell.
Clinton on the tarmac.
Lanny Davis, he did something
Benghazi, conspiracy it was.

But their kennings conveyed meaning instead of obfuscating.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:34:55am

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:35:33am

Confirmed Trump is Individual #1.

Interesting.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:35:35am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

Yeah, this is spreading it thick.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:14am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

Sammy Gravano was too. Still needed to get him to talk to get Gotti.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:18am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

Yeah, none of this changes the punk that he is. But that’s not the point here. The point is ripping down the Trump facade. He may be able to do that, but he’s still a sleaze.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:21am

Are we going to let this whole thing actually play out before we discuss the failure it is?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:37am

re: #68 Scottish Dragon

They are really in the Lanny Davis weeds.

Historian Kevin Kruze is right…the GOP has become that alien race from Star Trek TNG that speaks in allegory that only other members of the race can understand:

Shaka, when the walls fell.
Clinton on the tarmac.
Lanny Davis, he did something
Benghazi, conspiracy it was.

“We’re better than this, we’re better than this. Hey, what about Benghazi and four innocent Americans killed by Killery and Obama? What Uranium One!!??!”

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:41am

The “Oh woe is me” act is a bit much, Mike. But I understand it’s to be expected, so please make it short.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:36:51am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

Cohen is going to prison for engaging in multiple felonies.

He isn’t the good guy here.

He furthered criminal conspiracies. That’s what he’s testifying to.

The media needs to focus on that, and show that the GOP wants to prevent Cohen from testifying to his criminal conduct in furthering Trump’s ambitions and on behalf of Trump - conspiring to commit felonies and conspiring to lie to obstruct justice. Cohen did all that at Trump’s behest.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:37:35am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

He has to do this.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:38:38am

Interesting. describing being drawn in on personality.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:38:46am

re: #90 ObserverArt

Are we going to let this whole thing actually play out before we discuss the failure it is?

Which “this”? Because if you’re talking about Cohen’s testimony, it’s already been discused above. If you’re talking about the GOP’s attempts to block, it’s already been discussed above.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:39:01am

re: #92 Targetpractice

The “Oh woe is me” act is a bit much, Mike. But I understand it’s to be expected, so please make it short.

I also have my doubts. But sometimes people really do change. After about ten years of good behavior, I might believe that Cohen has.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:39:11am
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:39:12am
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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:39:14am

re: #93 lawhawk

Cohen is going to prison for engaging in multiple felonies.

He isn’t the good guy here.

He furthered criminal conspiracies. That’s what he’s testifying to.

The media needs to focus on that, and show that the GOP wants to prevent Cohen from testifying to his criminal conduct in furthering Trump’s ambitions and on behalf of Trump - conspiring to commit felonies and conspiring to lie to obstruct justice. Cohen did all that at Trump’s behest.

Yep, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but we’ll take what we can get.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:39:27am

Cohen’s opening statement would be more compelling if I had not read the draft this morning.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:40:00am

re: #97 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

I also have my doubts. But sometimes people really do change. After about ten years of good behavior, I might believe that Cohen has.

Nah. He just got busted.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:40:09am

re: #97 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

I also have my doubts. But sometimes people really do change. After about ten years of good behavior, I might believe that Cohen has.

Losing his law license is a good deterrent.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:40:17am

Think that’s gonna be one of those bits that’s gonna get under Donny’s skin more than anything else: The reality that he never intended to be president, but to promote his brand and thus his wealth.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:40:34am

Stone is fucked.

This makes me so unbelievably happy.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:40:47am

re: #101 Ming5000

Cohen’s opening statement would be more compelling if I had not read the draft this morning.

To paraphrase someone above, we’re not the target of this.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:41:39am

Who hired Cohen?

Donald Trump.

Who did Cohen admittedly lie for?

Donald Trump.

Who did Trump say he hired?

All the best people.

This testimony today is about Donald Trump and why he hires people like Michael Cohen.

It is because Trump is crooked and surrounds himself with other crooked people.

That is all this is. Eyes on the prize.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:42:01am

Ooohhh, actual Trump financial statements!!

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:42:08am

Cohen: “He once told me while driving through a black neighborhood that only black people could live that way.”

Jordan: (thought bubble) “I’m not sure what the problem is there.”

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:42:50am

So, it sounds like Trump’s business dealings are over for the day. I wonder if he is going to get any sleep or spend that time watching Cohen.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:43:52am

re: #110 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

He is headed to the toilet so he can tweet about Cohen.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:44:40am

re: #111 PhillyPretzel

He is headed to the toilet so he can tweet about Cohen.

I’m expecting some rather difficult shits.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:44:42am

Did he just say that Stormy suggested the hush money rather than Trump volunteering it?

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:44:47am

re: #100 BeachDem

Yep, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but we’ll take what we can get.

The enemy of my enemy is an asset to be used.

Whether or not they turn out to be an ally depends on them and takes time to form a relationship. Sorta like Sen. Byrd and the black community.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:44:52am

Posted on RawStory at 07:47 this morning. Looks like the GOP shenanigans were expected:

The reporter told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), the committee’s ranking member, and other GOP lawmakers will repeatedly attempt procedural motions to interrupt, halt and stall Cohen’s testimony.

“That is 100 percent expected,” Przybyla said. “I talked to a number of Democratic aides yesterday who said you may want to bring a good book because there will be so many attempts — if you look at some of the members on this committee, like Jim Jordan, who are stalwart protectors of this president — they will attempt whenever it is in their estimation that the testimony or questioning is veering from this narrow set of topics the chairman had released, that they’re going to try and shut it down. This could, therefore, lead to a very long hearing.”

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:44:55am

[Melania] - “She is a kind, good person”
Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:45:03am

re: #96 Belafon

Which “this”? Because if you’re talking about Cohen’s testimony, it’s already been discused above. If you’re talking about the GOP’s attempts to block, it’s already been discussed above.

I’m talking about the LGF members that are saying this testimony of Cohen’s is not going to do anything as far as changing minds.

If that is the case, then why are the Democrats we were happy to take the House doing this? I thought we trusted them do help us rid us of Trump one way or another.

I think that is what they are trying to do.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:45:41am

Lre: #107 ObserverArt

Who hired Cohen?

Donald Trump.

Who did Cohen admittedly lie for?

Donald Trump.

Who did Trump say he hired?

All the best people.

This testimony today is about Donald Trump and why he hires people like Michael Cohen.

It is because Trump is crooked and surrounds himself with other crooked people.

That is all this is. Eyes on the prize.

Correct. Basically. The catch is if you think Cohen is lying and of low character now. Well who hired and employed this guy? Trump. I think that’s where Cohen’s testimony here matters. Trump truly is individual one. It all ties back to him.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:46:02am

re: #116 Archangelus

[Melania] - “She is a kind, good person”
Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

Consider the source.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:46:46am

re: #117 ObserverArt

I’m talking about the LGF members that are saying this testimony of Cohen’s is not going to do anything as far as changing minds.

If that is the case, then why are the Democrats we were happy to take the House doing this? I thought we trusted them do help us rid us of Trump one way or another.

I think that is what they are trying to do.

OK. Thanks. The context was here, not there. Makes more sense.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:46:49am

And there we have physical documents confirming criminal conspiracy.

There is no burying this.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:46:49am

No offense, Mike, but I’m starting to notice a pattern that you did this shit willingly at the time because you thought you were going to keep your job, if not get better treatment. I’m sure you’re remorseful now, but I can’t help but feel the reason is the classic one: You got caught.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:47:57am

re: #116 Archangelus

[Melania] - “She is a kind, good person”
Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

Insulting the 1st Lady is not going to help anybody, and what he did was a pretty damned dick thing to lie to her.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:48:13am

I wonder just how terrible the thing’s grades and SAT scores were. Heh.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:48:16am
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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:48:31am

The thing about Trump threatening schools not to release his grades and SAT scores is gonna piss off Preznit Stable Genius, too.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:48:46am

Threatened criminal actions against schools.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:49:38am

re: #124 BeachDem

I wonder just how terrible the thing’s grades and SAT scores were. Heh.

Bad enough to threaten that. This is pretty rich considering Trump joined the CTs about Obama’s grades.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:50:06am

re: #122 Targetpractice

No offense, Mike, but I’m starting to notice a pattern that you did this shit willingly at the time because you thought you were going to keep your job, if not get better treatment. I’m sure you’re remorseful now, but I can’t help but feel the reason is the classic one: You got caught.

It is just like an alcoholic or drug abuser.

They have to hit bottom before they realize the real situation they are in.

We usually give people a break to get back up in cases like that.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:50:18am

re: #127 Scottish Dragon

That would explain why a lot of U of Penn grads signed a petition against DT.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:50:28am

No bone spur, no surgery. ‘Do you think I’m stupid?’

Boom.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:50:34am

Trump actively told Cohen he’d dodged the draft?

Dammit, Carter, why’d you have to give a blanket amnesty for that?!?

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:51:13am

re: #85 MsJ

Excuse me while I puke. Cohen is a dirtbag. This self goodness bullshit is gross.

You gotta work with what you got. You want to hear from Trump’s associates? These are the kinds of people he worked with.

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CongoJack  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:51:31am

And there is the Russian Trump tower meeting…. odds on Trump fleeing to Russia after this?

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:51:33am

“Please testify about the Dicktator’s health… please testify about the Dicktator’s health… pretty pretty please testify about the Dicktator’s health!”
*crosses fingers*

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:51:46am

re: #126 makeitstop

The thing about Trump threatening schools not to release his grades and SAT scores is gonna piss off Preznit Stable Genius, too.

I’m sure there are those Trump tweets about calling for Obama’s transcripts.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:52:16am

re: #133 Ace-o-aces

You gotta work with what you got. You want to hear from Trump’s associates? These are the kinds of people he worked with.

I know. Criminals working with criminals. None of them are good guys.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:53:04am

Fox already has the recording of Cohen saying He Does Not Have Direct Knowledge of Russian blah blah blah on repeat 24 hours a day for a week.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:53:13am

re: #134 CongoJack

And there is the Russian Trump tower meeting…. odds on Trump fleeing to Russia after this?

Like Vlad would let an exposed asset in the country

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:53:13am

re: #116 Archangelus

[Melania] - “She is a kind, good person”
Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

Battered wife syndrome is a real thing — and it’s hard to believe what it will make people do if you haven’t seen it — but I’m sticking to “no, she’s not,” at this time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:53:34am

re: #80 ObserverArt

For you that might be the case. But all of America doesn’t pay attention to this like you do. Step outside your own situation for once and look at the larger picture.

Much of this will all be new to a lot of people that do not pay attention.

Those are the same people that voted for Trump because they didn’t know anything about him.

Today many new people are going to learn.

You are assuming that they can be swayed by facts and arguments. Trump would not be President if they could. The only thing that is going to bring him down is when his own party, members the GOP Senate and House, start to see him as a hindrance to their grasp on power.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:53:46am

Junior ain’t gonna like that ‘bad judgement’ quip.

He’s tossing bombs right into the inner circle here. What it affects in public might not be as bad as who he sets against each other in Trump’s cabal.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:54:02am

His consistent refrain of “and I continued to work for him” is fucking devastating.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:54:06am

re: #134 CongoJack

And there is the Russian Trump tower meeting…. odds on Trump fleeing to Russia after this?

Much as I sort of wish that, we’d never get AF1 back if it were to divert to to Volgograd rather than Washington tonight.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:54:07am

Don’t worry, sweetie. Trump will never pardon you. So, you’re good.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:54:16am

re: #117 ObserverArt

I’m talking about the LGF members that are saying this testimony of Cohen’s is not going to do anything as far as changing minds.

If that is the case, then why are the Democrats we were happy to take the House doing this? I thought we trusted them do help us rid us of Trump one way or another.

I think that is what they are trying to do.

And why are the Repugs apparently pulling out all the stops to stop or cast shade on it?

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:54:38am

re: #142 makeitstop

Junior ain’t gonna like that ‘bad judgement’ quip.

He’s tossing bombs right into the inner circle here. What it affects in public might not be as bad as who he sets against each other in Trump’s cabal.

Junior likely knows what daddy thinks of him. This will not be news.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:03am

re: #139 KGxvi

Like Vlad would let an exposed asset in the country

Wasn’t Yanuk pretty much exposed? As far as we know, he has a nice dacha on the Caspian.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:03am

re: #146 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

And why are the Repugs apparently pulling out all the stops to stop or cast shade on it?

To make that the story instead of the testimony.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:07am

It’s not “much like a mobster would do,” it’s EXACTLY like a mobster did.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:34am

re: #142 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:48am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are assuming that they can be swayed by facts and arguments. Trump would not be President if they could. The only thing that is going to bring him down is when his won party starts to see him as a hindrance to their grasp on power.

Are we talking about Red Hats or the public in general here?

Of course the MAGATs aren’t gonna buy this. We know this.

Again - Cummings and the Dems on the committee are going for those in the middle. They can be swayed.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:55:56am

“I never imagined… that he would attack me and my family”
Sorry Mikey, but that’s some pretty crappy imagination right there…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:56:26am

re: #142 makeitstop

Junior ain’t gonna like that ‘bad judgement’ quip.

He’s tossing bombs right into the inner circle here. What it affects in public might not be as bad as who he sets against each other in Trump’s cabal.

That would help Mueller get a big fish imo. Cohen knows a lot of the closets that skeletons are hanging in and the resentments that exist within the inner circle. It’s different than Flynn who was more of a new hire for the 2016 pres run.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:56:44am

re: #152 makeitstop

Are we talking about Red Hats or the public in general here?

Of course the MAGATs aren’t gonna buy this. We know this.

Again - Cummings and the Dems on the committee are going for those in the middle. They can be swayed.

Should have been more clear, I mean the Senate and House.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:57:38am

re: #144 Chrysicat

Much as I sort of wish that, we’d never get AF1 back if it were to divert to to Volgograd rather than Washington tonight.

The Air Force pilots actually flying the plane wouldn’t go for that at all. Direct order or not

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:57:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:58:24am

re: #157 MsJ

I am disappointed that the committee didn’t arrange for violin music.

Just a cello playing the theme from Jaws

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:59:06am

re: #149 Scottish Dragon

To make that the story instead of the testimony.

You seem to have missed my point, which is that they’re trying to stop it BECAUSE they think it will have an effect.

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2019 • 7:59:52am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Should have been more clear, I mean the Senate and House.

True.

But you work the body. Pound the parts where they ARE weak: i.e., the mushy middle. Reduce them to their core….and, like the progressive core on the left, it’s not that big.

And once you reduce it to a core….keep pounding.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:00:01am

I wish it were later in the day—I could probably use a drink before listening to Gym Jordan and Mark Meadows when it’s their turn to rant.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:00:24am

Junior is certainly busy watching this and tweeting.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:00:24am

Oh, Junior. You’re such a fuckup.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:00:25am

re: #157 MsJ

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I’m waiting for the screen to say epilogue and start flashing photos of Trump inner circle members and finally Trump headed off to prison with their sentences listed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:00:32am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are assuming that they can be swayed by facts and arguments. Trump would not be President if they could. The only thing that is going to bring him down is when his won party starts to see him as a hindrance to their grasp on power.

I’m not assuming anything.

There are plenty of people that have already admitted they made a mistake voting for Trump. This is for them.

You keep talking about the 30% that support Trump. They are not going to change. There will be a point in time they no longer count. I am hoping today is the start of that.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:01:20am

Oh, holy shit.

Cummings was trying to blow up the “blind trust” fiction. Too bad Cohen isn’t playing along that far.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:02:05am

re: #160 gwangung

True.

But you work the body. Pound the parts where they ARE weak: i.e., the mushy middle. Reduce them to their core….and, like the progressive core on the left, it’s not that big.

And once you reduce it to a core….keep pounding.

Yeah there are some Republican reps that are less blindly obedient to Trump. Chip away at it.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:02:48am

I offer a first draft of the Articles of Impeachment:

Article of Impeachment No. 1
All of the things

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:03:19am

re: #161 BeachDem

I wish it were later in the day—I could probably use a drink before listening to Gym Jordan and Mark Meadows when it’s their turn to rant.

I hope that will overlap with my gym time. Although I’d like to know what questions they plan to ask.

Also, it’s 5:00 somewhere. And the Romans drank beer for breakfast because the water wasn’t safe.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:03:34am

“Effin’”, Gym?

You’re allowed to cuss in Congress now, you know. Cohen did so in his opening statement!

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:04:15am

Gym Jordan makes my skin crawl.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:04:36am

re: #170 Chrysicat

I mean, his very presence is a curse upon the institution…

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:04:56am
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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:05:26am

re: #165 ObserverArt

I’m not assuming anything.

There are plenty of people that have already admitted they made a mistake voting for Trump. This is for them.

You keep talking about the 30% that support Trump. They are not going to change. There will be a point in time they no longer count. I am hoping today is the start of that.

30% is more than the number of registered Repugs, which continues to drop.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:05:32am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Should have been more clear, I mean the Senate and House.

We have the House.

You must also be forgetting that Trump is running in 2020. We can stop him then.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:05:43am

re: #173 MsJ

Now, THAT is reporting

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:05:53am

Of little importance in the big scheme of things, but what is it with Gym never wearing a jacket? Does he think it makes him look more macho and “wrestler-like?” Not working, you asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:06:06am

re: #168 KGxvi

I offer a first draft of the Articles of Impeachment:

Article of Impeachment No. 1
All of the things

Sort of like at Camp Summerfun when the first rule of Camp Summerfun is there are NO rules at Camp Summerfun. The first article with impeaching Trump is “Jesus dude where do I start?”

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:06:17am

Jordan trying to argue that Cohen is a lying bastard. Something that the GOP didn’t have a problem with when he was insisting he didn’t know anything about Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:06:54am

re: #173 MsJ

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Who did that convicted felon lie for?

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:07:12am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:07:13am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Jordan trying to argue that Cohen is a lying bastard. Something that the GOP didn’t have a problem with when he was insisting he didn’t know anything about Russia.

a lying bastard that was hired by trump. So much winning.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:07:15am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Jordan trying to argue that Cohen is a lying bastard. Something that the GOP didn’t have a problem with when he was insisting he didn’t know anything about Russia.

What the point of this is…I do not know.

Yeah, Cohen is a piece of shit. We all know that.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:07:28am

“Did you lie to protect the president or lie to help yourself?” How are those mutually exclusive, Gym?

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:07:50am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Jordan trying to argue that Cohen is a lying bastard. Something that the GOP didn’t have a problem with when he was insisting he didn’t know anything about Russia.

He lied for himself and for the president. Not hard to figure out

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:08:13am

re: #143 Scottish Dragon

His consistent refrain of “and I continued to work for him” is fucking devastating.

hey, brutus is an honorable man.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:08:17am

re: #183 MsJ

What the point of this is…I do not know.

Yeah, Cohen is a piece of shit. We all know that.

The point’s the standard defense attorney tactic: Attack the prosecution’s witness as a lying bastard to convince the jury that he’s lying now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:08:27am

re: #175 ObserverArt

We have the House.

You must also be forgetting that Trump is running in 2020. We can stop him then.

Trump if the Senate map in recent years is anything else last year loses it. The 2018 Senate map was nothing Trump had any part of being what it was.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:08:41am

re: #171 BeachDem

Gym Jordan makes my skin crawl.

On the other hand:

“It was a fake twitter account?”
“No, it was a real twitter account.”

We have to take our humor where we find it.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:08:58am

Cohen was offered White House positions and didn’t want in?!?

Oh, wow.

And he can’t be stupid enough to lie about that, so there are no sour grapes.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:09:17am

Cohen is currently handing Jordan his ass.

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:09:37am

re: #175 ObserverArt

We have the House.

You must also be forgetting that Trump is running in 2020. We can stop him then.

Dream on pal.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:09:51am

re: #184 Targetpractice

“Did you lie to protect the president or lie to help yourself?” How are those mutually exclusive, Gym?

Yes. His client was Trump. Lying to protect himself is lying to protect Trump. The two are one and the same.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:09:56am

re: #174 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

30% is more than the number of registered Repugs, which continues to drop.

Agreed. I’m just trying to make a point about the numbers are shifting away from Trump.

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Jay C  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:10:12am

re: #165 ObserverArt

You keep talking about the 30% that support Trump. They are not going to change. There will be a point in time they no longer count. I am hoping today is the start of that.

Agree abso-frick’n-lutely. This, I think, is the big fear Republicans have: they have made their base of political power in this country the absolute bloc-voting Party loyalty of a large and cohesive minority. And of course, the apathy/disinterest of a huge segment of the other 70%, i.e. the non-GOP electorate. That their “base” will “no longer count” is the nightmare scenario.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:10:13am

The whole Jordan thing just now…i don’t get it.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:10:14am

re: #191 makeitstop

Cohen is currently handing Jordan his ass.

Well, nobody else wants it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:10:27am

re: #177 BeachDem

Of little importance in the big scheme of things, but what is it with Gym never wearing a jacket? Does he think it makes him look more macho and “wrestler-like?” Not working, you asshole.

A man of the people. Too tough for a suit.

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:11:01am

re: #153 Archangelus

“I never imagined… that he would attack me and my family”
Sorry Mikey, but that’s some pretty crappy imagination right there…

the man graduated from a fifth tier law school. it’s not like a talent for sharp analysis has ever been high on his list.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:11:26am

re: #196 MsJ

The whole Jordan thing just now…i don’t get it.

Setting up the GOP theory of the case: Cohen is turning on Trump over a failure to get a job in the White House, that this is a case of “sour grapes” and thus he has every reason to lie today.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:11:44am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:11:52am

re: #198 ObserverArt

A man of the people. Too tough for a suit.

I noticed that too. Weird stuff. I hate wearing suit jackets but I’ll obviously wear one in a business formal setting like that.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:12:06am

Wasserman-Schultz is asking good questions here.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:12:24am

re: #192 Skip Intro

Dream on pal.

Well, if we impeach without already having the R votes to convict in hand, ‘dream on’ is the right thought here.

If we don’t convict him, the Rs will claim he was acquitted and that it was literal Dem treason to try to remove him.

And I fear enough independents will believe them to destroy us.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:13:08am

re: #201 Archangelus

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Now I want a Banh Mi for lunch today. Haha.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:13:12am

Or ya know…try to ferret out the truth. But, nah.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:13:41am

re: #194 ObserverArt

Agreed. I’m just trying to make a point about the numbers are shifting away from Trump.

And I’m going to keep hammering the “30% immovable base” as inflated every time I see it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:13:41am

re: #192 Skip Intro

Dream on pal.

I will.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:14:12am

Jordan went after Cohen personally and former Trump staff in total by suggesting everybody who has testified against him (either before Congress or in the courts) is doing so because they were either fired from or denied jobs in the White House.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:14:46am

re: #203 makeitstop

Wasserman-Schultz is asking good questions here.

She’s never been a bad legislator imo. Just a bad DNC chair because she had to juggle the DNC and being a Congresswoman at the same time. That’s the same reason I preferred Perez over Ellison as DNC chair too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:14:47am

re: #195 Jay C

Agree abso-frick’n-lutely. This, I think, is the big fear Republicans have: they have made their base of political power in this country the absolute bloc-voting Party loyalty of a large and cohesive minority. And of course, the apathy/disinterest of a huge segment of the other 70%, i.e. the non-GOP electorate. That their “base” will “no longer count” is the nightmare scenario.

They are going to stick with their plan that won them 2016; count on mobilizing the base and suppressing enough of the remaining vote to squeak them by. And remember, voter indifference and apathy are the best vote suppressors.

And with not GOP primaries, they are going to be out voting en masse to try to hamper the Democratic primary process. Getting Bernie nominated because they know that he is the least likely to beat Trump in the general, especially after they start tearing him apart as soon as he wins the nomination.

If you thought 2016 was ugly, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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freetoken  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:15:16am

NO COLLUSION!

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:15:23am

re: #201 Archangelus

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Nonsense. He brought them with him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:16:02am

re: #209 Targetpractice

Jordan went after Cohen personally and former Trump staff in total by suggesting everybody who has testified against him (either before Congress or in the courts) is doing so because they were either fired from or denied jobs in the White House.

Jim Jordan (R-Trump

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:16:11am

re: #213 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Nonsense. He brought them with him.

No, they don’t keep…they start to revert to their constituent particles after 24 hours

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:17:26am

GOP whine served with cheese and crackers

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:17:40am

The Repugs have nothing—they’re “testifying” against the Dems instead of questioning Cohen. What a bunch of losers.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:17:57am

Actually, he is really going to prison for the illegal campaign payments….

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:18:03am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, they don’t keep…they start to revert to their constituent particles after 24 hours

I think the problem is that they keep forever.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:18:38am

Such righteous indignation.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:19:06am

So this is what we can expect going forward: Dems asking relevant questions, while Repubs attack the hearing, Cummings, and Cohen without asking any damned questions.

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:19:13am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I noticed that too. Weird stuff. I hate wearing suit jackets but I’ll obviously wear one in a business formal setting like that.

if he were in a courtroom, which he kind of is, a judge would absolutely smack him down for that. Remember in Inherit the Wind where spenser tracy finally has to ask the judge’s permission for the lawyers to take their jackets off because it’s summer in Tennessee and 40 years before air conditioning?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:19:28am

Shit.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:19:46am

Mr. Green you seem interested in IRS tax forms.

Are you going to ask Donny for his.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:20:08am

re: #220 MsJ

Such righteous indignation.

Subtitle, the Jim Jordan Story, starring an angry rotting corn ear as Jim Jordan.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:20:29am

re: #223 Scottish Dragon

Shit.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:20:36am

Now saying he forged all the documents.

This guy is flailing. Cohen gets nothing from this testimony.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:20:51am

They’re impeaching his credibility by suggesting he’s only here to make his book salable?

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Alephnaught  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:21:02am

BOOK DEAL!

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:21:26am

Green now trying to suggest Cohen is looking to profit from this.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:21:32am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Subtitle, the Jim Jordan Story, starring an angry rotting corn ear as Jim Jordan.

That wasn’t Jim…it was the last guy. The guy from TN.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:21:39am

re: #222 steve_davis

if he were in a courtroom, which he kind of is, a judge would absolutely smack him down for that. Remember in Inherit the Wind where spenser tracy finally has to ask the judge’s permission for the lawyers to take their jackets off because it’s summer in Tennessee and 40 years before air conditioning?

You’re correct. I was in a couple court hearings as a paralegal. Always kept my jacket on.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:21:46am

“Trump is innocent. ” — Michael Cohen

“Trump is guilty.” — also Michael Cohen

There, in a nutshell, is the Repugs’ problem with the liar narrative.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:05am

Jorden’s going to be the attack dog here. The other cowards will all yield back to him.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:06am

re: #228 Chrysicat

Pretty sure it was going to the best seller list no matter what, even if he is a low-life.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:19am

re: #231 MsJ

That wasn’t Jim…it was the last guy. The guy from TN.

Ohhhhh. Sorry.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:34am

re: #229 Alephnaught

BOOK DEAL!

Better…MOVIE DEAL.

“Who would you like to play you?”

Sorry, that is funny shit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:40am

re: #233 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

“Trump is innocent. ” — Michael Cohen

“Trump is guilty.” — also Michael Cohen

There, in a nutshell, is the Repugs’ problem with the liar narrative.

Trumpdora’s Box.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:22:44am

re: #234 Dave In Austin

Jorden’s going to be the attack dog here. The other cowards will all yield back to him.

Only after getting their chance at a bit of bombastic bullshittery aimed at the cheap seats.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:23:03am

re: #234 Dave In Austin

Jorden’s going to be the attack dog here. The other cowards will all yield back to him.

Good. He is not effective at all.

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rhuarc  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:23:28am

My fun for the day will be to post on each R’s Twitter that is on the committee about how much of a fucking disgrace they are to this country and that they are traitors.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:23:36am

re: #239 Targetpractice

Only after getting their chance at a bit of bombastic bullshittery aimed at the cheap seats.

Yeah, mostly pontificating then some quick question before turning it back over to Gym.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:02am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Trumpdora’s Box.

Schrodinger’s testimony.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:06am

re: #230 Targetpractice

Green now trying to suggest Cohen is looking to profit from this.

I believe the law prevents people from earning money from book deals while in prison.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:07am

If they’re making a book deal their main point of contention he’s lying, their case is weaker than I thought.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:21am

re: #243 BeachDem

Schrodinger’s testimony.

Yep!

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:24am

THIS

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:24:30am

re: #226 Targetpractice

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The chain is only as strong as the weakest link. That is now the controlling factor on whether a full scale war happens.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:25:00am

Gotta head off for healthy exercise. In the rain. Have fun, all.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:25:39am

re: #240 MsJ

Good. He is not effective at all.

Non of them are…. They can’t be. It goes against physics of everything……

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:25:39am

re: #247 MsJ

THIS

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Correct. And I think that’s why Gym Jim is so angry. The cat’s out of the box here.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:26:11am

Dems are doing a good job of actually doing a good job.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:27:12am
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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:27:29am

All these chumps have got is that Says Who lied.

We knew that, guys. Next.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:27:56am

re: #253 jaunte

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These guys operate like gangsters.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:28:11am

I have a summer home??? LOLOLOL!!!

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:28:26am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

I wonder who they asked.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:29:22am

The loans were ill-gotten, but he managed to pay them back anyway (probably because he was cleaving to Trump for the unreported income he needed to do so).

Now how is this impeaching his current testimony?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:29:34am

re: #257 jaunte

I wonder who they asked.

Good question

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:29:39am
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:31:11am

GOP not even trying to attack his actual documentation on POTUS

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:31:24am

Oh, now this little weasel, Comer, is telling Cummings what type of witnesses to call. Take a seat, you asshole.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:31:46am

Oh, god, Jordan’s gonna try to hold him in contempt.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:08am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

If they’re making a book deal their main point of contention he’s lying, their case is weaker than I thought.

When you have the law on your side, pound the law; when you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; when you have neither, pound the table.

All they’ve got is pounding the table.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:31am

re: #262 BeachDem

Oh, now this little weasel, Comer, is telling Cummings what type of witnesses to call. Take a seat, you asshole.

Somebody tell him that the only way to convict gangsters is to get other gangsters to testify. You don’t get saints to testify because they aren’t the ones who have access to the gangsters.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:32am

re: #263 Chrysicat

Oh, god, Jordan’s gonna try to hold him in contempt.

If anyone is contemptible, it’s white-shirt Gym.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:50am

re: #264 KGxvi

When you have the law on your side, pound the law; when you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; when you have neither, pound the table.

All they’ve got is pounding the table.

You got it counselor.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:32:54am

re: #262 BeachDem

Oh, now this little weasel, Comer, is telling Cummings what type of witnesses to call. Take a seat, you asshole.

Again, it should be pointed out that none of the things he and Jordan are attacking Cohen for mattered to none of them when they called him to testify a year ago.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:33:58am

re: #253 jaunte

I’m not a criminal law attorney, but I’m pretty sure something like that would qualify as money laundering

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:34:25am

re: #265 jaunte

Elizabeth de la Vega
@Delavegalaw
GOP TELL: When things aren’t going well, start shouting and pointing.

11:31 AM - Feb 27, 2019

If that is the case, will they roll in Lindsey Graham. He is the Republican’s greatest shouting pointer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:34:29am

re: #263 Chrysicat

Oh, god, Jordan’s gonna try to hold him in contempt.

Jordan isn’t a lawyer is he? This seems Lionel Hutz territory practically but even that law talking guy has a general idea about court thingies that you read in those bits that have neat legal tidbits and factoids.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:34:42am

OMG. Eleanor Holmes Norton speaks so incredibly slowly that I don’t even remember what her question was.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:35:05am

re: #270 KGxvi

I’m not a criminal law attorney, but I’m pretty sure something like that would qualify as money laundering

It would.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:35:18am

Gym Jordan lost that exchange badly. OMG.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:35:48am

re: #261 Scottish Dragon

GOP not even trying to attack his actual documentation on POTUS

Their game plan is pretty transparent…”You were a crook independent of your alleged loyalty to Trump.”

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:36:23am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Jordan isn’t a lawyer is he? This seems Lionel Hutz territory practically but even that law talking guy has a general idea about court thingies that you read in those bits that have neat legal tidbits and factoids.

He’s got a JD from Capital University, according to his wikipedia page. But it’s unclear whether he practiced

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Alephnaught  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:36:54am

The Guardian live-blog is seeing what some of us have been noticing: [their emphasis]

James Comer, Republican of Kentucky, is asking Cohen is his financial crimes were committed to serve and protect the president.

We’re beginning to see what’s happening here. Keen readers/people who have been reading for 15 minutes will note that Jim Jordan asked almost identical questions during his own floor time.

It’s not the most subtle tactic, but Republicans have clearly decided their best path to defend Trump is by attacking Cohen.

Comer laments that the committee has called a convicted felon as a witness. We heard that earlier too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:37:07am

re: #276 Mike Lamb

Their game plan is pretty transparent…”You were a crook independent of your alleged loyalty to Trump.”

But his crookery as Trump’s attorney all goes back to Trump and the Republican Party.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:38:06am

Oh jeez—now motor-mouth Meadows. Ugh.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:38:35am

re: #277 KGxvi

update: on further reading, he earned his JD while in the Ohio state legislature. So, JD but not a lawyer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:38:41am
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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:39:01am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Jordan isn’t a lawyer is he? This seems Lionel Hutz territory practically but even that law talking guy has a general idea about court thingies that you read in those bits that have neat legal tidbits and factoids.

He has a JD from Capital University here in Columbus. It is a good law school. Today though they might deny they know this asshole.

I don’t know if he has ever got his law license though.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:39:12am

“If you don’t have tapes of racist rants by the President, he’s the least-racist person in the country”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:39:23am

re: #277 KGxvi

He’s got a JD from Capital University, according to his wikipedia page. But it’s unclear whether he practiced

Looks like an Evangelical school in Ohio in the same vein as Liberty and Regent here but associated with the Evangelical Lutherans. I’m mistaken. Thanks OA.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:39:24am

Meadowsfinger

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:39:29am

Why is Lynn Patton standing up? And what is motor-mouth Meadows’ point—that because Trump knows a black person he can’t be a racist?

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:18am

Republicans don’t like Cohen’s honest answers.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:24am

re: #287 BeachDem

Why is Lynn Patton standing up? And what is motor-mouth Meadows’ point—that because Trump knows a black person he can’t be a racist?

Pretty much. “THIS BLACK PERSON WOULDN’T WORK FOR A RACIST!!!”

I’m sure she’s also been party to Donny’s every conversation./////

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:40am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Looks like an Evangelical school in Ohio in the same vein as Liberty and Regent here but associated with the Evangelical Lutherans.

Nope—actually it’s a pretty good school. (Have many friends who went there)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:41am

re: #283 ObserverArt

He has a JD from Capital University here in Columbus. It is a good law school. Today though they might deny they know this asshole.

I don’t know if he has ever got his law license though.

Oh ok. I was mistaken below about it looking like Regent or Liberty.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:51am

I’m missing the point of all these Republicans questions.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:40:55am

re: #284 Chrysicat

::: eyeroll :::
They have to attack Cohen to defend DT. DT was the one who ordered Cohen to do this stuff.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:41:25am

“I’m using a black person as a prop; I can’t be racist.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:41:28am

re: #290 BeachDem

Nope—actually it’s a pretty good school. (Have many friends who went there)

Mea culpa. Thank you.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:41:57am

Didn’t Seth Meyers spoof this in the White Savior sketch?

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:42:59am

This is why I think we, and the entire country are screwed. We are in the grip of the most corrupt, evil administration in US history, and it has the full support of the Republican party and its own 24/7 propaganda network on radio and tv and the internet. Earlier dictators could only dream of having such a strong support group of people willing to completely throw away any shred of integrity and humanity to defend a man who has neither. The only way Trump leaves the presidency will be the way his authoritarian predecessors did: in a box.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:43:11am
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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:43:25am

re: #292 MsJ

I’m missing the point of all these Republicans questions.

Seriously?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:44:15am

And MM throws his papers to the desk. Guess who’s not in charge anymore. Fuck that’s funny!

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:44:27am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Looks like an Evangelical school in Ohio in the same vein as Liberty and Regent here but associated with the Evangelical Lutherans. I’m mistaken. Thanks OA.

Capital University is well established as a good law school. They have a fine reputation. I don’t think the religious connection is all that dominating.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:45:28am

re: #299 Skip Intro

Seriously?

Yeah.

They all look bad. Cohen is a shit. No argument. But none of these Republicans actions make them or trump look good.

That’s what I don’t get.

Do they think this is a successful strategy?

I’m confused.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:45:39am

re: #301 ObserverArt

Capital University is well established as a good law school. They have a fine reputation. I don’t think the religious connection is all that dominating.

Yeah. See my correction and apology. I guess it’s like Georgetown here in the DMV. Catholic associated but a really secular campus.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:45:40am

re: #292 MsJ

I’m missing the point of all these Republicans questions.

“THIS MAN IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT! YOU CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS!”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:46:43am

George Conway is burning shit right the fuck down.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:47:36am

re: #304 Targetpractice

“THIS MAN IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT! YOU CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS!”

Basically if you’re lying about Trump’s shit now and the reason you are is because you’re a lying shitbag, were you not lying then either when you had his confidence as his attorney?

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:47:43am

re: #304 Targetpractice

“THIS MAN IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT! YOU CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS!”

EXCEPT FOR WHEN HE SAID THE PRESIDENT WAS INNOCENT AS THE DRIVEN SNOW BEFORE ‘THIS’ COMMITTEE WHEN *WE* CONTROLLED IT!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:48:08am

Cohens wife and lawyer are eating peanuts……

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:49:28am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Yeah. See my correction and apology. I guess it’s like Georgetown here in the DMV. Catholic associated but a really secular campus.

That’s usually true of the older private schools. Almost all of them originally had a religious affiliation and might technically still have one, but it’s basically vestigial at this point. USC was originally affiliated with the Methodist Church but severed ties back in the 1950s.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:50:33am

re: #302 MsJ

Yeah.

They all look bad. Cohen is a shit. No argument. But none of these Republicans actions make them or trump look good.

That’s what I don’t get.

Do they think this is a successful strategy?

I’m confused.

It’s just an extended attack on Cohen’s credibility—that nothing he says can be trusted. The problem of course is that he has at least some documentation to back up his allegations and they can’t even touch that. If it wasn’t apparent prior, it should be pretty goddamned obvious that everything about the Cliffords affair is 100% true.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:51:17am

DEMOCRAT party.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:51:19am

re: #309 KGxvi

That’s usually true of the older private schools. Almost all of them originally had a religious affiliation and might technically still have one, but it’s basically vestigial at this point. USC was originally affiliated with the Methodist Church but severed ties back in the 1950s.

Didn’t know that about USC. But yeah Princeton was Presbyterian wasn’t it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:51:19am

Mark Meadows is asking for unanimous consent to list Cohen’s crimes (which he committed at Trump’s behest) on the record.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:51:58am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:52:13am

The game starts. Run the clock

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:52:33am

re: #297 Skip Intro

This is why I think we, and the entire country are screwed. We are in the grip of the most corrupt, evil administration in US history, and it has the full support of the Republican party and its own 24/7 propaganda network on radio and tv and the internet. Earlier dictators could only dream of having such a strong support group of people willing to completely throw away any shred of integrity and humanity to defend a man who has neither. The only way Trump leaves the presidency will be the way his authoritarian predecessors did: in a box.

Yeah, but earlier dictators wouldn’t have lost a chamber in the election after they gained power.

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thecommodore  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:52:48am

“Democrat Party.”

Drink!

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:53:18am

Hice basically picking up the baton Jordan dropped earlier, suggesting that the DNC is coordinating this testimony as a hit on Trump.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:54:04am

Clowns.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:54:19am

Hice going with the Davis/Clinton conspiracy…

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:54:21am

HE JUST ACCUSED AN ENTIRE PARTY OF TREASON!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:54:38am

JFC…… Who is this turd?

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:54:59am

re: #321 Chrysicat

HE JUST ACCUSED AN ENTIRE PARTY OF TREASON!

Or at least he sees it as treason, inasmuch as it’s really lese-majeste.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:55:01am

Are the rightwing assholes ever going to ask an actual question?

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:55:46am

Sorry—the Davis/Clinton/Cummings conspiracy.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:56:09am

If they just keep repeating ‘liar’ enough, it will magically make that check go away.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:56:12am

Again, another reminder that the GOP had no problem with Cohen’s lies last year.

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Jay C  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:56:36am

re: #264 KGxvi

When you have the law on your side, pound the law; when you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; when you have neither, pound the table.

All they’ve got is pounding the table.

Well, the Committee Republicans seem to have decided to lead with “pounding the table”, so that should give us an idea of the merits of their “case”.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:56:57am

FUCK’N A!

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:57:24am
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:57:49am

re: #324 BeachDem

Are the rightwing assholes ever going to ask an actual question?

No, because they don’t want to know the answer to any question that any reasonable person would ask in this setting.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:58:29am
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Jay C  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:58:56am

re: #331 KGxvi

No, because they don’t want to know the answer to any question that any reasonable person would ask in this setting.

Or they know what the answer(s) will be, and don’t want them on record….

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 8:59:09am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:00:09am

re: #334 Targetpractice

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Lies we claimed were true!

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:01:51am

Now Gym sounds like he’s quoting the yam’s tweets—now if he says “Lisa and her lover” we’ll know he is. STFU, Gym.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:01:54am

Yes, Gym, let’s go with the list of the guys that were fired by Trump who were investigating Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:02:06am

re: #247 MsJ

THIS

WE DIDN’T KNOW HED TURN ON US

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:02:14am

Jordan now takes time to engage in FBI conspiracy theorizing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:11am
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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:17am

Now it’s the dentist who’s an expert in body language—this should be enlightening.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:20am

re: #339 Targetpractice

Jordan now takes time to engage in FBI conspiracy theorizing.

The most incredible trick the Devil ever pulled was getting the GOP to fall in with Drump.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:50am

This fucking Gosar guy. You have no sense of loyalty or attorney client privilege.

This is crazy shit.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:51am

Gym Jordan going all in on hell yeah saturday night massacre!

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:03:57am

Cohen’s response about him not wanting the Committee to take him at his word and therefore produced documents was quite good.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:02am

If Jordan is the ‘lead prosecutor’ for the GOP, they sure aren’t bringing their best.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:05am

re: #341 BeachDem

Now it’s the dentist who’s an expert in body language—this should be enlightening.

The guy whose own family hates him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:20am

CSPAN showed the full panel long enough to see that the GOP has devolved to the point that they just put up a sign saying “LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE” behind the committee.

Absolute clown shoes.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:29am

I just finished watching a part of the testimony where Lynch was asking some reasonable questions and Jordan resumed his speech. Geez. The R’s do not get it. ::: shakes head :::

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:30am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:04:31am

re: #343 MsJ

This fucking Gosar guy. You have no sense of loyalty or attorney client privilege.

This is crazy shit.

OFFS

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:05:21am

Gosar now suggesting that Cohen is only testifying to get a break on his sentence.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:05:29am

re: #339 Targetpractice

Jordan now takes time to engage in FBI conspiracy theorizing.

The only positive result from a second Drump term would be four more years of the allegedly pro-law enforcement GOP conspiracy mongering about the FBI.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:05:47am

re: #350 MsJ

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That’s why he’s credible today. He’s a scum but he’s a scum who will never return to the life he had before this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:05:57am

ZING!

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:11am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

The most incredible trick the Devil ever pulled was getting the GOP to fall in with Drump.

Stop blaming the devil

Lucifer - Oh the Devil made you do it? - Episode 1 Clip

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:13am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

The guy whose own family hates him.

Oh, is it this guy, Gosar? He is a huge asshole.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:17am

Back to “Women for Michael Cohen”? The account that he already admitted was a bad joke but literally was not run by him but by an actual woman?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:22am

Popehat is mocking the GOP questioning non stop.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:25am

Gosar really had a “liar, liar pants on fire” sign?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:26am

re: #352 Targetpractice

Gosar now suggesting that Cohen is only testifying to get a break on his sentence.

Might well be but Trump has also been his usual nasty self fo him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:29am

Gosar basically showing us what it looks like when you strip the thin veneer of civility away from the GOP: Angry old white guys yelling bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:06:45am

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

ZING!

[Embedded content]

Oh man.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:07:11am

re: #362 Targetpractice

Gosar basically showing us what it looks like when you strip the thin veneer of civility away from the GOP: Angry old white guys yelling bullshit.

Buckley spent a lifetime trying to cover that veneer.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:07:17am

re: #357 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Oh, is it this guy, Gosar? He is a huge asshole.

And a Sarah Palin buddy to boot.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:07:45am

That guy…….

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:07:46am

This is another good response from Cohen.

EDIT: Just to be clear…his statement that he, Cohen, did the same thing for 10 years that the GOP congresspersons is currently doing.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:08:44am

Oh fuck me this statement from Cohen is….I don’t even know. I got nothing.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:08:52am

Jesus…Coburn…we don’t need Cohen to provide us with a morality lesson.

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:09:13am

re: #366 Dave In Austin

When your own family calls you an asshole, you’re most likely an asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:09:29am
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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:11:17am

“No, he would use others.”

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:11:45am
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Teukka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:11:55am

Sanity break:

Facebook Post

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:12:43am

Michael Cohen is all out of fucks.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:13:34am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

He seems very relaxed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:14:59am
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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:15:54am

re: #362 Targetpractice

Gosar basically showing us what it looks like when you strip the thin veneer of civility away from the GOP: Angry old white guys yelling bullshit.

Are we going to see another Sumner Caning or will this version remain only-violent-in-rhetoric until Trump closes the Capitol doors?

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:16:53am

re: #373 jaunte

I’m saving this one for when I can get to twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:18:26am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

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They’re such a blatantl propaganda network.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:22:25am

Biggest Inauguration Crowd Ever. Period.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:22:40am

re: #177 BeachDem

Of little importance in the big scheme of things, but what is it with Gym never wearing a jacket? Does he think it makes him look more macho and “wrestler-like?” Not working, you asshole.

I was in a room of tech people shortly before the millennial bust. Our group had Dick Gebhart as its special guest. I watched him walk in, look around and see how dark it was and that he was surrounded by dark suits, then take his jacket off and carry it. His white shirt nearly glowed in that dark room, making him stand out.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:23:18am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:23:42am

re: #373 jaunte

We know what you are but what are you?!?!?! Shut up!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:24:23am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Cohen accuses Trump of federal crimes

And there we have it, Trump denies it (in his usual convincing manner) , then we have a case of “he said vs he said” and the Both Sides Media do the rest of the job for the GOP.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:25:24am

We laugh, but it’s truly sickening.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:26:14am

Congresswoman Foxx, you moron, in no way does he benefit from lying before your committee, because IF HE DOES HE LOSES HIS PLEA BARGAIN!

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:26:19am

Wingnut Foxx.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:28:03am

Like I said - Cohen’s a gold-plated punk, but he’s really making reps like Foxx look really stupid.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:28:06am

She’s trying to make him into a manual labourer and nothing else, under penalty of contempt of Congress, once he gets out of prison and that if he doesn’t, he’s lying now. Cute.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:29:05am

re: #390 Chrysicat

She’s trying to make him into a manual labourer and nothing else, under penalty of contempt of Congress, once he gets out of prison and that if he doesn’t, he’s lying now. Cute.

How long before we get one of the Congresspeople to say Mueller is making Cohen lie?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:29:54am

If I were Cohen right now:

“Hey look, you assholes. I have no reason to lie and protect Trump anymore. Do you think I am stupid like Paul Manafort?”

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:29:56am

re: #391 Belafon

That is beyond their thought process.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:30:14am

a buzzfeed story?? Really?

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:31:12am

Cohen lands a real punch there - they haven’t asked a single question about Trump.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:31:55am

SNAP!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:35:55am

Can’t believe they haven’t scrubbed it yet. Actually, I can because they are fucking morons.

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thecommodore  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:37:13am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:37:41am

Connolly with a great description of how compromised witnesses are used and believed in circumstances when the burden of proof is much higher than today’s hearing.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:38:38am

re: #398 thecommodore

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I wonder if there is a specific agreement to limit that line of questioning to the closed door testimony.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:38:42am

the guy chewing his cud behind Massie is not a good look (nor is Massie)

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:38:51am

Massie attacking Cohen as a bad lawyer. Again, how is this something under dispute?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:39:16am

Massie is landing solid blows here.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:39:30am

This is a stupid line of questioning from Massie.

Signed,

Department of Redundancy Department

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:39:44am

What’s up with Massie’s hair? Did he just get out of the shower or something?

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:40:09am

re: #403 Scottish Dragon

Massie is landing solid blows here.

How? What does him giving bad legal advice have anything to do with anything?

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:40:52am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:41:14am

re: #397 GlutenFreeJesus

Another banner moment from the Romney-McDaniel GOP era.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:41:16am

re: #68 Scottish Dragon

They are really in the Lanny Davis weeds.

Historian Kevin Kruze is right…the GOP has become that alien race from Star Trek TNG that speaks in allegory that only other members of the race can understand:

Shaka, when the walls fell.
Clinton on the tarmac.
Lanny Davis, he did something
Benghazi, conspiracy it was.

sorta like Cockney rhyming slang…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:41:16am

re: #402 Targetpractice

Massie attacking Cohen as a bad lawyer. Again, how is this something under dispute?

He can use this to blame Cohen for the illegal payments instead of Trump

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:41:27am

re: #405 makeitstop

What’s up with Massie’s hair? Did he just get out of the shower or something?

He goes to Rand Paul’s hairdresser.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:42:03am

WHY DID YOU HAVE THOSE BOXES? SHOULDN’T THEY BE TURNED OVER TO THE INVESTIGATORS?

The investigators returned them to me.

WHY DO YOU HAVE THEM!!!1111

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:42:07am

lulz

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:42:37am

re: #406 Mike Lamb

How? What does him giving bad legal advice have anything to do with anything?

Makes Trump the victim of a bad lawyer

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:43:17am

re: #413 GlutenFreeJesus

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lulz

There’s always a tweets(s).

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:43:48am

re: #410 Scottish Dragon

He can use this to blame Cohen for the illegal payments instead of Trump

It’s pretty clear from how they structured the transaction that they knew it wasn’t legal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:44:30am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:44:32am

re: #412 MsJ

WHY DID YOU HAVE THOSE BOXES? SHOULDN’T THEY BE TURNED OVER TO THE INVESTIGATORS?

The investigators returned them to me.

WHY DO YOU HAVE THEM!!!1111

That was really something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:44:58am

I just refreshed this page and now I can’t get the little window at the bottom that shows the video.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:45:10am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:45:19am

re: #412 MsJ

WHY DID YOU HAVE THOSE BOXES? SHOULDN’T THEY BE TURNED OVER TO THE INVESTIGATORS?

The investigators returned them to me.

WHY DO YOU HAVE THEM!!!1111

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARYS EMAILS??!?!?!?

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:45:59am

re: #421 Sir John Barron

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARYS EMAILS??!?!?!?

Sir, this is a Chik-fil-a drive thru.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:46:11am

re: #416 Mike Lamb

It’s pretty clear from how they structured the transaction that they knew it wasn’t legal.

Oh I know, but I could see where he was going.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:46:37am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:46:49am

Side note: Cummnings is doing a good job running this hearing. It’s only a shit show to the extent that the GOP only knows “Argle Bargle—ATTACK!”

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:47:03am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:47:19am

re: #424 The Vicious Babushka

Everything tRump Touches Dies

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:47:27am

re: #421 Sir John Barron

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARYS EMAILS??!?!?!?

They were burned by Shaka when the walls fell.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:47:30am

re: #414 Scottish Dragon

Makes Trump the victim of a bad lawer

That’s rather a stretch.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:48:03am
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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:48:04am

“Lawls”. Oy, I hate that accent.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:48:10am

re: #417 The Vicious Babushka

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When I saw Congresman Connolly speak last spring, he emphasized why it was important to win back the House and this is exactly why from what he’s saying here. This sort of thing needs to be said.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:48:43am

re: #429 Targetpractice

The Republicans are in trouble and this is one way they have of defending DT.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:48:48am

re: #429 Targetpractice

That’s rather a stretch.

You play the cards you have

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:49:48am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:02am

re: #426 jaunte

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Well Don Jr is the dumbest one. Then Eric. And then there’s Barron who may be the least dumb of the three Trump brothers because he’s had the pleasure of spending the least amount of time with Trump of the three.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:05am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:26am

re: #435 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s a criminal fucking enterprise.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:28am
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:33am

re: #434 Scottish Dragon

You play the cards you have

The best poker players will tell you that the best play the majority of the time is to simply fold. Especially if you don’t have much money in the pot.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:50:48am

Repetition of the idea that Cohen is a spurned former employee looking to get revenge.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:51:13am

re: #430 jaunte

Yeah, let me know when we see that conservatism again, Anand.

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:51:14am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

It’s a criminal fucking enterprise.

*whispers* “RICO”

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nines09  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:51:36am

Right now, in Vietnam, Trump handlers are destroying every phone they can get their hands on.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:52:07am

At some point I’d like to see Cohen wheel around on the GOP, and say,

“I worked for years covering up for Trump. Lying for him with every waking breath. Shielding him from the consequences of his crimes. Attacking people who he conned and stole from. Groveling to his every whim.

“Looks like you have my old job now, Congressman.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:52:33am

re: #443 Teukka

*whispers* “RICO”

Suave. But yes.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:52:38am

re: #435 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a shame almost no one I work with will hear those words, because I’m sure Fox won’t carry them.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:52:52am

Meadows is even more obnoxious than Gym. I didn’t think that was possible.

What. An. Asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:53:19am
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:53:32am

re: #442 Belafon

Yeah, let me know when we see that conservatism again, Anand.

He basically described Obama’s temperament in those tweets. Deliberate, thoughtful, and conscientious in action.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:54:09am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:55:21am

re: #450 KGxvi

He basically described Obama’s temperament in those tweets. Deliberate, thoughtful, and conscientious in action.

Which I think is why bothered a lot of Obama’s liberal critics. Obama ideologically is pretty liberal- not extremely so but his temperament and leadership style is more conservative.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:55:35am

re: #445 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

At some point I’d like to see Cohen wheel around on the GOP, and say,

“I worked for years covering up for Trump. Lying for him with every waking breath. Shielding him from the consequences of his crimes. Attacking people who he conned and stole from. Groveling to his every whim.

“Looks like you have my old job now, Congressman.”

He basically did that already.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:55:41am

That’s a bingo.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:56:14am

re: #451 lawhawk

And boom goes the dynamite.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:57:31am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:57:45am

Roger is going to jail. Charles was right; he couldn’t comply with the gag order. Check out @Zac_Petkanas’s Tweet:

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:59:30am

re: #448 BeachDem

Meadows is even more obnoxious than Gym. I didn’t think that was possible.

What. An. Asshole.

Meadows and Foxx are vile

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 9:59:37am

Let me guess: because he is dumber than a bag of socks?

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:00:53am

Thanks Grothman…let’s really emphasize that SDNY is working with Cohen on other criminal investigations involving Trump.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:01:27am

OH fuck, Meadows again. Kill me now.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:01:47am

Mark Meadows is saying that private foreign companies are “foreign contracts” that had to be revealed on the form. That’s for government entities.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:02:22am

re: #461 Targetpractice

OH fuck, Meadows again. Kill me now.

Really. Hysterical shitbag.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:03:09am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

He thinks that contrition and no longer punching in his weight class shows how much a loser Cohen is.

Joke’s on Junior, of course since all this testimony points in the direction of….

Junior, Ivanka, Sekulow (who helped write the lies Trump wanted), and Trump himself.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:05:02am
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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:05:51am

Harley! The reason we don’t have to see Dana Rohrabacher any more.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:06:01am
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:06:35am

re: #465 jaunte

That’s under the legal reasoning that if you don’t have the facts or the law on your side, pound on the table.

Except that the table is balsa wood, and it’s crumbling because all the lies are piling up and you’re actually exposing Trump as the liar and progenitor of the criminal conduct for Cohen and everyone else associated with Trumpworld.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:07:57am

re: #466 BeachDem

Harley! The reason we don’t have to see Dana Rohrabacher any more.

Let’s count our blessings.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:08:01am

re: #460 Mike Lamb

Thanks Grothman…let’s really emphasize that SDNY is working with Cohen on other criminal investigations involving Trump.

SDNY is going to be bringing a RICO action against the Trump Organization. Then Trump and his brood will lose everything and be prison bound.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:08:09am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:08:23am

re: #465 jaunte

Well, it’s what following dRumpT has taught him to do.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:09:24am

the Rybovelev sale……

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:09:47am

re: #467 jaunte

“Those were honest mistakes only revealed because of WITCH HUNT HOAX! and process crimes, etc.”

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:09:48am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:09:51am

Check out @markokloos’s Tweet:

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:11:04am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

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“Convicted Russian Mobster Felix Sater” took up too many characters to Tweet…

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:11:47am

re: #475 jaunte

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Now let’s ask ourselves how many presstitutes will point out that Meadows is full of shit about this?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:12:31am

Meadows flat lied

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:12:36am

Amash questioning is interesting.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:12:40am

Sorry, I got distracted.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:12:43am

re: #476 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Check out @markokloos’s Tweet:

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Trump wishes he had thought of that.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:13:07am

re: #479 Scottish Dragon

Meadows flat lied

Does the wingnut GOP really want to go there?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:13:21am

re: #480 MsJ

Amash questioning is interesting.

I’m not a fan of his but he’s not completely devoid of principles.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:14:10am

how long before trump attacks amash?

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:14:17am

Amash seems to be the “good cop” today.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:14:33am

re: #476 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Check out @markokloos’s Tweet:

That’s no excuse! Why didn’t he get borned earlier if he really loved his *country* of America?

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:14:44am

Wow. Amash (M) not being a d-bag

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:14:47am

Meanwhile, from the Department of On-the-Nose Symbolism:

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:15:03am

re: #481 wrenchwench

Nice diversion. Thanks. :)

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:15:23am

Katie Hill pointing out that Meadows is full of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:16:10am

re: #485 MsJ

how long before trump attacks amash?

He didn’t endorse him. Amash has condemned the emergency too. As I said not in general a fan but the guy is the only name I’ve seen that isn’t one of Biff’s toadies on the GOP side.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:16:40am

re: #489 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Reminder: None of those prototypes met the requirements set forth by the DHS for the barrier.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:16:59am

re: #475 jaunte

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Katie Hill just got that misrepresentation on the record. Good move.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:17:07am

re: #488 Ming5000

Wow. Amash (M) not being a d-bag

He was the only Republican co-sponsor on the emergency revocation. He seems to be a real life actual principled conservative and does not like Trump. He’s going to be an interesting one to watch.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:17:09am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:17:32am

re: #494 makeitstop

Katie Hill just got that misrepresentation on the record. Good move.

Another solid freshman. I forget who she beat but she’s good.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:18:20am

re: #497 HappyWarrior

Another solid freshman. I forget who she beat but she’s good.

Steve Knight. CA-25.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:18:22am

re: #495 KGxvi

He was the only Republican co-sponsor on the emergency revocation. He seems to be a real life actual principled conservative and does not like Trump. He’s going to be an interesting one to watch.

An actual Libertarian, I believe.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:18:26am

Trying to get some work done while watching the TV and here is rather difficult. Damnit!

Anyway, I want to hear a very key word and ask if Cohen has used it and if anyone heard it used.

Loyalty.

I want to hear that word every time a GOPer asks why he lied as a lawyer for Trump.

Why? Everyone knows Trump asks for complete loyalty and that is what Cohen was…a loyal lawyer willing to lie for his client because his client demanded 100% loyalty.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:18:40am

re: #453 Mike Lamb

He basically did that already.

Yep. Hadn’t seen that; thanks for the affirmation.

There is just SO MUCH coming out here. This is so dense. Pick any question-and-response; it would be a 6-month scandal for any other administration.

What strikes me is the pure redneck anger from these hick congressmen. What the actual fuck. Are they that deep down the rabbit hole, or are they just channeling the rage that the red-raced screaming Fox News watching manatees are yelling at their TV right now?

Or is Fox showing highlights of the Benghazi attack instead?

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:19:28am

re: #481 wrenchwench

Fellow bug lover here. Am constantly distracted by them. <3 Speaking of, check out this fellow. Have you seen these guys here? They live in Texas and New Mexico, but I’ve never seen one.

Toad Lubber grasshopper!

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:19:35am

There’s the new talking point.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:19:41am

Fuck Bob Gibbs…Trump ass kisser.

He can’t even speak.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:23am

The old white guy is angry that Cohen is attacking the president he likes. Shocker!

///////

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:31am

Amazing from Gibbs. Real repentence would be to coverup for Trump!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:34am

Who it this stammering Gibbs?

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:39am

Welp…Gibbs is a dope.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:52am

Ha.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:20:59am
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:21:07am

re: #499 Sir John Barron

An actual Libertarian, I believe.

Small-L libertarian, with a big focus on procedure, I think. Though I am always skeptical of “pro-life libertarians”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:21:13am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:21:20am

Yes, we’ve gone over this Gibbs, but it was in English.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:21:29am

re: #504 ObserverArt

Fuck Bob Gibbs…Trump ass kisser.

He can’t even speak.

And a Gym Jordan shirtsleeves wannabe.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:21:47am

re: #508 Mike Lamb

Welp…Gibbs is a dope.

This much we can see, kinda like, well, the rest of them.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:22:16am

Another iteration of “Are you being paid for your testimony today?!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:22:36am

re: #475 jaunte

Peak Republican, trying to get a witness to lie, but you end up lying instead.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:22:41am

re: #515 Dave In Austin

This much we can see, kinda like, well, the rest of them.

He made it a half sentence before I reached a conclusion. Some of the rest lasted a sentence.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:23:32am

Jordan asked a question that he did not know the answer to

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:23:38am
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MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:23:47am

Gym Jordan is REALLY bad at this stuff.

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Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:24:14am

re: #509 MsJ

Ha.

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Cmon, that’s the fakest news i’ve ever seen!
No way can Darth Orange lift a television, of any kind! ;)

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:24:44am

re: #521 MsJ

Gym Jordan is REALLY bad at this stuff.

Jordan uses the old, “wow!” response

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:25:22am

Yes, Gym, I’m sure that no one that has ever appeared before a GOP led committee had advanced communications about topics.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:25:43am

My internet feed slowed down when Sarbanes came on. Video running at one half speed

526
rhuarc  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:25:43am

When do they break for lunch!! I’d like to go take a shower. :)

527
Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:26:39am

re: #510 jaunte

HE GOT GREAT YUUUUUGE CROWDS OUT TO SEE HIM!!!!!

528
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:26:42am

Sweet Jesus…Sarbanes is going to play Ben Stein’s character in a Ferris Buehler remake.

529
BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:02am

re: #523 Ming5000

Jordan uses the old, “wow!” response

Jordan and Kasich might not agree on much, but they have that smirky, sarcastic crap to share forever.

530
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:06am

re: #525 Ming5000

My internet feed slowed down when Sarbanes came on. Video running at one half speed

That’s just Sarbanes’ speaking cadence.

531
ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:13am

re: #514 BeachDem

And a Gym Jordan shirtsleeves wannabe.

Now it comes to me, fucking Gibbs is the Rep for one of my brothers who lives just northeast of Mansfield.

My brother hates the fucker. And my brother USED to be a Republican backer.

Oh yeah, also a very gerrymandered district

532
Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:19am

re: #525 Ming5000

My internet feed slowed down when Sarbanes came on. Video running at one half speed

My Congresscritter…..

533
makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:48am

re: #528 Mike Lamb

Sweet Jesus…Sarbanes is going to play Ben Stein’s character in a Ferris Buehler remake.

I believe the term you’re looking for is ‘laconic.’

534
KGxvi  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:27:56am

re: #529 BeachDem

Jordan and Kasich might not agree on much, but they have that smirky, sarcastic crap to share forever.

Pretty sure you need that as a defense mechanism to survive Republican internal politics.

535
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:28:20am

Please, Sarbanes, switch gears before we all expire.

536
Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:28:37am

Is this supposed to be a cure for insomnia?

537
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:29:10am

Inaugural…..dangerous

538
nines09  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:29:11am

Sanity break

539
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:29:14am

Really good question by Sarbanes but man…dude, drink some coffee, please.

540
GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:30:02am

re: #530 Mike Lamb

That’s just Sarbanes’ speaking cadence.

I’m just glad Susan Collins isn’t a part of this.

541
Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:30:19am

Ex-Sheriff Higgins just said that Cohen’s only reason that his wife and children are in danger is that he brought it on himserlf.

542
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:30:56am

Oy, he’s back on boxes.

This fucking guy.

543
steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:31:04am

re: #346 jaunte

If Jordan is the ‘lead prosecutor’ for the GOP, they sure aren’t bringing their best.

maybe they are.

544
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:31:31am

We’re going to listen to Higgins get pantsed again?

545
makeitstop  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:31:47am

BOXEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

546
Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:32:14am

“WHERE ARE THE EMAILS?!?!”

547
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:32:21am

re: #542 MsJ

Oy, he’s back on boxes.

This fucking guy.

They’re looking for any tiny little thing that they can take and blow up to be something significant.

It’s the Fox way.

548
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:33:05am

B
O
X
E
S

549
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:33:14am

This guy is game playing. Playing for his voters at home.

550
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:33:20am

I mean, this guy might have nosed ahead in the race to show who is the most stupid amongst the GOP ranks.

551
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:33:46am

Films! Books!

552
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:33:58am

re: #550 Mike Lamb

I mean, this guy might have nosed ahead in the race to show who is the most stupid amongst the GOP ranks.

No kidding. This level of stupid is stunning…and funny as hell.

553
BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:34:20am

re: #550 Mike Lamb

I mean, this guy might have nosed ahead in the race to show who is the most stupid amongst the GOP ranks.

And there is no excuse for that vest.
/

554
Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:34:23am

It’s like we’re watching Bobby Boucher after his football career ended.

555
Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:34:27am

And we thought Sarbanes sounded like he was on Quaaludes.

556
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:35:11am
557
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:35:31am

re: #553 BeachDem

And there is no excuse for that vest.
/

Isn’t there some other Boss Hogg runabout?

558
ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:36:10am

re: #405 makeitstop

What’s up with Massie’s hair? Did he just get out of the shower or something?

He goes to the same hair stylist as Rand Paul.

(By the way, that is Sleuth’s congressman I believe…)

559
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:37:13am

re: #557 MsJ

Isn’t there some other Boss Hogg runabout?

Yes…right here in NC…the new guy running for NC09

Boss Hawg, right down to the white suit and stupid hat.

560
BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:37:30am

Higgins has obviously been busy at his tailor’s.

561
Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:39:26am

re: #545 makeitstop

BOXEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Boxes that were seized and then returned by the FBI I do believe he stated.

562
HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:39:28am

re: #560 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

Higgins has obviously been busy at his tailor’s.

OFFS

563
lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:41:01am

The race is…. ON

564
HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:41:37am

re: #563 lawhawk

The race is…. ON

[Embedded content]

Excellent

565
Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:41:39am

re: #559 Scottish Dragon

Yes…right here in NC…the new guy running for NC09

Boss Hawg, right down to the white suit and stupid hat.

“The closest thing to law enforcement in Hazard County.”

566
lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:41:40am
567
BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:42:03am

Norman—Mick Mulvaney’s replacement. Our state really knows how to pick ‘em.

568
Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:42:49am

re: #541 Chrysicat

Ex-Sheriff Higgins just said that Cohen’s only reason that his wife and children are in danger is that he brought it on himserlf.

Always Be Gaslighting

569
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:43:05am

re: #557 MsJ

Isn’t there some other Boss Hogg runabout?

570
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:43:32am

Rep. Higgins lost his job as a cop for hitting a suspect in handcuffs and lying about it.

571
HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:44:20am

re: #566 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Boom!

572
Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:44:37am

re: #570 jaunte

Rep. Higgins lost his job as a cop for hitting a suspect in handcuffs and lying about it.

Yeah, that’s usually all it takes for a wingnut to get promoted to Congressman.

573
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:45:16am

Republicans forgetting the Nixon tapes.

574
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:45:22am

re: #572 Sir John Barron

Yeah, that’s usually all it takes for a wingnut to get promoted to Congressman.

Especially if the guy he hit is black.

575
GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:00am

PRAGUE.

576
HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:18am

re: #569 Scottish Dragon

[Embedded content]

Wait Stony Rushing isn’t a stage name?

577
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:31am

Someone tell me what the significance of Prague is.

578
HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:40am

re: #572 Sir John Barron

Yeah, that’s usually all it takes for a wingnut to get promoted to Congressman.

Owned the libs he did.

579
steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:42am

re: #418 Mike Lamb

That was really something.

my sense from watching decades of congressional hearings is that most congressmen are idiots. he got fed some canned question from his staff and then he is so intellectually inept that he wasn’t even aware that the guy had explained quickly what the answer was, and just went ahead with his rooster claghorn routine. there are a handful of democratic congresspersons, mostly northeastern prosecutors, who are agile enough to handle hearings like this. everybody else is just a fucking moron. even cummings reads like he suffered brain damage somewhere in life, and I like the guy.

580
lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:45am
581
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:46:53am

Prague question.

582
lawhawk  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:47:46am

re: #577 MsJ

Someone tell me what the significance of Prague is.

One of the things alleged in the Steele dossier.

583
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:47:49am

Republicans defending Trump while bringing up the sin of a possible loan default.

584
BeachDem  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:47:54am

re: #570 jaunte

Rep. Higgins lost his job as a cop for hitting a suspect in handcuffs and lying about it.

He also:

“negotiated paid speaking appearances with other police departments. In one email, Higgins discussed his request for a speaker’s fee that included shopping money for his wife and part of the fuel for his friend’s private plane.”[16] He asked for cash payments. In addition, Higgins conducted his private business via email on “his government email account during work hours without the permission or knowledge of his supervisors. Higgins also appears to have attempted to conceal his earnings from the IRS in order to avoid wage garnishment for unpaid taxes. Whether those actions constitute tax fraud is unclear.”[16]

en.wikipedia.org

Quite the standup guy.

585
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:48:23am

I see Twitter has the same Prague question as I.

586
steve_davis  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:48:30am

re: #431 Chrysicat

“Lawls”. Oy, I hate that accent.

what the hell is “lawls”? is that cat speak?

587
jaunte  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:48:42am

re: #584 BeachDem

Whether those actions constitute tax fraud is unclear

So, not yet charged?

588
MsJ  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:49:54am

Wow. 500 times of threatening litigation.

That is a WOW moment.

589
Jay C  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:51:00am

re: #563 lawhawk

The race is…. ON

[Embedded content]

Wow. I thought (from what I have read) that Israel’s AG was/is a friend/crony/political ally of Netanyahu’s; and that that was what was keeping Bibi out of handcuffs.

Just in time for the election campaign, too, I believe.

590
Archangelus  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:53:11am

re: #589 Jay C

Wow. I thought (from what I have read) that Israel’s AG was/is a friend/crony/political ally of Netanyahu’s; and that that was what was keeping Bibi out of handcuffs.

Just in time for the election campaign, too, I believe.

Attorney General Avichai Mandeblit was essentially appointed BY Netanyahu. Guessing he’s regretting that at this point.
And yes, election campaigns have already been heating up even before touching on this directly with any decision - and it was assumed that Netanyahu would probably be facing a potential indictment on just one of the cases, not three.

591
Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:53:24am

The quivering anger! So righteous!

592
Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:53:28am

Appalled I tell you! Appalled!

593
Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2019 • 10:53:59am

re: #586 steve_davis

what the hell is “lawls”? is that cat speak?

No, ir’s the way one of these particularly-aggressive Republicans pronounces “laws”. I think it’s mainly an Oklahoma-and-surrounding points thing.

594
thecommodore  Feb 27, 2019 • 11:01:09am

Wingnuts are saying this disproves the Steele Dossier.


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