Our first thread on the Michael Cohen is getting so full of comments, it’s time for another for this extraordinary moment in American politics.
I’ve been tied up with work all morning. What insanity did I miss? Also, is someone live tweeting this and I can get a link?
Crumbling infrastructure! DRINK!
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
I’ve been tied up with work all morning. What insanity did I miss? Also, is someone live tweeting this and I can get a link?
Aaron Rupar
.@RepSpeier: How many times did Mr. Trump ask you to threaten an individual or entity on his behalf?
COHEN: Quite a few times.
SPEIER: 50 times?
C: More.
S: 100 times?
C: More.
S: 200 times.
C: More.
S: 500 times?
C: Probably. Over the 10 years. pic.twitter.com/4Zg8wYgtgg— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 27, 2019
Can a brother get an asked and answered objection up in here?
re: #2 GlutenFreeJesus
Lol who is this lady from WV?
Someone highly offended, offended I say! that Cohen has the audacity to say anything about the president.
Pearls clutched so hard they’re turning to diamonds.
re: #2 GlutenFreeJesus
Appalled…… That’s all you need to know.
I just wish he’d take a moment during one of these diatribes to remind the GOP that they were cool with him when he was lying for Trump.
re: #7 jaunte
Pearls clutched so hard they’re turning to diamonds.
Can we ask her about how many pointless BENGHAZI!!!! and BUTTER EMAILS!!! investigations she was a part of?
How does helping Trump pay off his mistress become a personal thing for Cohen?
“Neo natal abstinence”??
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) February 27, 2019
re: #9 Targetpractice
I just wish he’d take a moment during one of these diatribes to remind the GOP that they were cool with him when he was lying for Trump.
Reminder: Cohen was deputy finance chairman of the RNC, right alongside Steve Wynn.
re: #13 jaunte
I was wondering about that too.
Every single Republican is accusing Michael Cohen of lying — apparently without any awareness that they’re defending the most dishonest president in history. Or WITH awareness, which is worse.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
Gym Jordan wresting with his role but he can’t seem to pin it down.
CL’d because it didn’t even dawn on me to check for a new thread just because the hearing is in recess:
re: #586 steve_davis
what the hell is “lawls”? is that cat speak?
No, ir’s the way one of these particularly-aggressive Republicans pronounces “laws”. I think it’s mainly an Oklahoma-and-surrounding points thing.
“I’ll be pursuing another book deal, AND a Coen brothers movie deal.”
We’ve just enjoyed a Repug implying that only a sleezebag would work for DT for ten years. (Because DT is so pure and honest?) What kind of knots will they tie for themselves next?
For those asking about Prague.
There was conjecture that Cohen met with Russians in Prague. Remember everyone wondering if he had his entry to the country indicated on his passport.
We all talked about how he could have gotten to Prague without having to use his passport.
I can only think that this is about establishing a narrative that Fox and the RW blogosphere can then take up and hope that it will be treated as a viable point of view by the rest of the media who need to present Both Sides of a series of lies from the mouths of a series of liars
The conundrum Republicans don’t seem to understand that they face when they condemn Cohen for being a felon is that he pleaded guilty to conduct that Trump participated in and of which he is also guilty.
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) February 27, 2019
re: #10 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
Can we ask her about how many pointless BENGHAZI!!!! and BUTTER EMAILS!!! investigations she was a part of?
She was just newly elected in 2018 I believe.
Her outrage is fresh!
re: #25 ObserverArt
For those asking about Prague.
There was conjecture that Cohen met with Russians in Prague.Remember everyone wondering if he had his entry to the country indicated on his passport.
We all talked about how he could have gotten to Prague without having to use his passport.
It is there not some cell phone record placing him there at a certain time related to a Trump meeting?
re: #23 jaunte
“I’ll be pursuing another book deal, AND a Coen brothers movie deal.”
Who plays Cohen in the Coen movie? If he were younger, John Turturro would be my guy.
1) Any publisher would have given Michael Cohen a zillion bucks for a book whether he went before Congress or not
2) This will not prevent your uncle on Facebook from posting “book deal” dozens of times, which I assume is the goal of the repetition— James Poniewozik (@poniewozik) February 27, 2019
Cohen has actually defended Trump more than these loons.
— John Weaver (@jwgop) February 27, 2019
The Republican Party just turns my stomach. The corruption on display in that chamber is horrifying.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
re: #28 ObserverArt
She was just newly elected in 2018 I believe.
Her outrage is fresh!
Farm to table!
Expect this to be the Faux narrative:
Cohen refutes that he was in Prague, debunking Steele dossier and therefore entire investigation into Trump.
That’ll be the entirety of Fox coverage, especially on Faux and Friends and Hannity.
The reality is that Cohen has repeatedly implicated Trump in federal felonies and ongoing criminal conduct, along with Ivanka and Junior. Cohen’s lies were on behalf of Trump. Cohen was lying for Trump. He was representing Trump’s lies as his position as Trump’s mouthpiece.
re: #35 lawhawk
Expect this to be the Faux narrative:
Cohen refutes that he was in Prague, debunking Steele dossier and therefore entire investigation into Trump.
That’ll be the entirety of Fox coverage, especially on Faux and Friends and Hannity.
The reality is that Cohen has repeatedly implicated Trump in federal felonies and ongoing criminal conduct, along with Ivanka and Junior. Cohen’s lies were on behalf of Trump. Cohen was lying for Trump. He was representing Trump’s lies as his position as Trump’s mouthpiece.
If they mention it all.
It’s really an extension of Benghazi. It’s political theatre except this time they are on the defensive…and it is true. So there’s that.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 27, 2019
Looks like the whole wingnut line tonight is BBBBBOOOOKKK DDDEEEEAAALLLL!!!!
If you asked me to make up the thirstiest, most preposterously desperate Republican response possible to Cohen’s testimony, “We could be taking up important business right now, like child separation policies” would have to be my winner
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) February 27, 2019
re: #24 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
We’ve just enjoyed a Repug implying that only a sleezebag would work for DT for ten years. (Because DT is so pure and honest?) What kind of knots will they tie for themselves next?
Meereenese knot
Geez, this is the Grand Parade of Republican Assholes, innit?
gop more upset he recorded trump than the fact trump was recorded doing crimes
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 27, 2019
I am in a meeting on mute so I cannot listen. Who is the guy in the yellow tie? He seems angry.
Both Broidy and Hannity could have asserted privilege and asked for review when the tapes were first seized. https://t.co/fLvssOBt9B
— Ed Bott (@edbott) February 27, 2019
Armstrong trying to put Gym into a half Nelson as biggest asshole…
re: #33 Charles Johnson
“…. the corruption on display…”
Yeah, that needs to be hammered home on the GOP. That where Cohen sits is where they could be sitting in a few years’ time, when their entire party has crumbled to rubble.
Their furious rear-guard action to try to defend an obviously criminal, sleazy, lying conman is not to their credit.
You can already see the right wing spin developing - they’re going to claim Cohen actually vindicated Trump by denying the Prague report.
While ignoring the astounding criminality of everything else Cohen disclosed.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
The Republicans know their party is a House of Cards right now and they’re doing everything they can to keep it from blowing over. Almost no conduct is too appalling if it keeps the gravy train rolling that much longer.
Remember, Trump has given cover to the GOP to all kinds of nasty shit. As long as he remains in office, they can keep getting their freak on. They’ll do almost anything to hold on to that power, even if it means acting irrationally or illegally.
re: #48 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
They’re all sleazy, lying criminals.
The biggest own goal for the Dems thus far is the trying to rehabilitate Cohen.
If I could throw some money around in Vegas right now I’d put 1K down that Cohen was actually in Prague.
re: #52 Mike Lamb
The biggest own goal for the Dems thus far is the trying to rehabilitate Cohen.
Why rehabilitate? He’s an asshole, he worked for an asshole, he got caught and slammed for it.
He also worked for trump for 10 years. He chaired the RNC. He is what he is.
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If I could throw some money around in Vegas right now I’d put 1K down that Cohen was actually in Prague.
If that is true, he is deeply and truly fucked in terms of his agreements.
I really think Trump and his goons are trying to overwhelm the system with so much criminal activity that it’s just impossible to keep up with or properly prosecute. You nail one crime down and they’ve done five more in the mean time.
re: #52 Mike Lamb
The biggest own goal for the Dems thus far is the trying to rehabilitate Cohen.
It’s a typical prosecutor/plaintiff’s attorney move. When you’ve got someone who has done bad stuff but is willing to testify about worse stuff by others, you have to get that out there in order to make them credible. Good lawyers can do it but it doesn’t always work.
re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg
I really think Trump and his goons are trying to overwhelm the system with so much criminal activity that it’s just impossible to keep up with or properly prosecute. You nail one crime down and they’ve done five more in the mean time.
It normalizes deviancy. Sarah Kendzior talks about that a lot.
I got CL’d, but as expected, wingnuts are crowing about Cohen’s answer about Prague.
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) asks Michael Cohen: “Have you ever been to Prague?”
Cohen: “I’ve never been to Prague”
Norman: “Never have?”
Cohen: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic” pic.twitter.com/CpNvsfJmqp— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) February 27, 2019
BTW - for those of you wondering about what’s going on in the Southern District of NY, here’s an insight from a friend of mine who is defense counsel; he who went up against the Feds on multiple occasions:
“They’ve got a dozen lawyers with fire in their eyes working on RICO cases against Trump right now. Federal RICO charges are CCE continuing criminal enterprise charges 10 to life. Several of my clients were charged with CCE counts.
“Those guys have honed their techniques for decades against the mob. They are really, really good at this. I would NOT want to be going up against them with this much evidence lying around.
I’ve got former clients in prison, who will never see the light of day again, for less than HALF of what Cohen has disclosed in front of this committee.
re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg
I really think Trump and his goons are trying to overwhelm the system with so much criminal activity that it’s just impossible to keep up with or properly prosecute. You nail one crime down and they’ve done five more in the mean time.
The counter to that is to persue the crimes you can prosecute. Don’t try to get everything, just convict. That’s why you bring a mob boss down with taxes.
re: #58 KGxvi
It’s a typical prosecutor/plaintiff’s attorney move. When you’ve got someone who has done bad stuff but is willing to testify about worse stuff by others, you have to get that out there in order to make them credible. Good lawyers can do it but it doesn’t always work.
Problem is, Gym Jordan keeps doing a Wile Coyote face plant every time he gets the mike
re: #64 Scottish Dragon
Problem is, Gym Jordan keeps doing a Wile Coyote face plant every time he gets the mike
And that’s a problem, why?
re: #62 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
Going against US Attorneys is generally a losing proposition. Going against US Attorneys for the Southern District of New York is basically the worst case scenario. They are typically the best of the best.
So Rep. Steube just said that Cohen’s testimony has no probative value, even though he has implicated Trump in multiple felonies.
In a perhaps related note, Rep. Steube is from Florida— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) February 27, 2019
Republicans: Cohen is a lying liar who lies. Totally not credible. Cohen: I’ve never been in Prague. Republicans: The Steele Dossier is now proven false.
— Peg Johnson (@PFlowerstone) February 27, 2019
And here’s yet another Republican clutching his pearls over how “disappointing” this hearing is. This is clearly a talking point they agreed upon in advance. pic.twitter.com/fU0lN7f0OW
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
re: #63 Belafon
The counter to that is to persue the crimes you can prosecute. Don’t try to get everything, just convict. That’s why you bring a mob boss down with taxes.
Yep. Because you can prove where the money went. Juries put a lot of faith in accounting ledgers and bank records (mainly because they don’t really understand them, but they look really official),.
Follow. The. Money.
The US Attorneys that I used to work with were really, really good at getting their mitts on one thread, and using it to unravel an entire criminal network.
Once they got probable cause to subpoena one set of bank records, it would lead to the next … and the next … and the next …
What Michael Cohen has revealed is so much worse than what Bill Clinton was impeached for.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
re: #61 thecommodore
I got CL’d, but as expected, wingnuts are crowing about Cohen’s answer about Prague.
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He’s lied about everything except that, right guys?
Very stupid new GOP Rep. @gregsteube is trying to question whether the payments from Trump to Cohen were ACTUALLY reimbursement for Stormy Daniels. Steube has apparently not heard that the SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FUCKING NEW YORK HAS ESTABLISHED THIS FACT.https://t.co/IenuYQY3Jm
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) February 27, 2019
re: #71 Charles Johnson
And that is why the late Senator Arlen Spector voted “not proven.” I know that is was recorded as “not guilty.”
I was soooooooooooooooooooooo disappointed that there were all those Benghazi and Her Emails investigations.
BTW - my policy today is to give everyone in these comment threads updings, because you’ve got the stomach to sit through this gusher of raw sewage, and you should get something for having to endure live TV coverage of how foul Trump has made everything.
Christ. That our government has come to this.
This guy is claiming Cohen just paid Stormy for the hell of it?
My Congress rep (Brenda Lawrence) is up now.
Wow. Cohen says Trump called him and put Melania on the line so Cohen could lie to her about Stormy Daniels. Monstrous. https://t.co/fVTRhdwacJ
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
I still don’t think the GOP senate would ever vote to Impeach Trump, unless they thought their asses were hopelessly fried in the next election if they didn’t.
Problem is, the GOP base won’t give a shit about any of this and continue to crawl over hot coals to vote Republican because MAGA, Socialism, AOC, etc.
That’s why I don’t think the Senate will go for it even if the House were to Impeach.
re: #79 Charles Johnson
Monstrous? Or simply on brand?
re: #79 Charles Johnson
Yep, that sounds like a totally Trump-y thing to do.
re: #67 jaunte
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No proof that Trump directed the payment save for a check from Trump’s personal account that matches all other testimony regarding the hush money scheme…
re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg
I still don’t think the GOP senate would ever vote to Impeach Trump, unless they thought their asses were hopelessly fried in the next election if they didn’t.
Problem is, the GOP base won’t give a shit about any of this and continue to crawl over hot coals to vote Trump because MAGA!
That’s why I don’t think the Senate will go for it even if the House were to Impeach.
Still need to do it. Nixon had support until the case was made in public.
re: #77 Scottish Dragon
This guy is claiming Cohen just paid Stormy for the hell of it?
It was such a stupid line of questioning. There’s a reason that most of the other idiots have avoided discussing it.
Trump’s a hell of a start,
It could be made into a monster,
If we all pull together as a team
re: #77 Scottish Dragon
This guy is claiming Cohen just paid Stormy for the hell of it?
All he is doing is trying to take the checks away as evidence. He’s pissing on them because there is no direct connection Trump gave him those checks for reimbursement of the Stormy payments.
We also have no evidence what Trump has discussed with Putin in Helsinki. I guess that is no problem and it doesn’t show how Trump operates.
re: #77 Scottish Dragon
This guy is claiming Cohen just paid Stormy for the hell of it?
Pretty much. They’re trying to suggest that Cohen took action independent of direction from Trump because he thought he knew what Trump wanted. Suggesting that whatever crimes Cohen committed, they were his alone and Trump was totally in the dark.
I’m reading through these last two threads quickly, but one gets the impression that all the questions are being asked by Republicans. Don’t the Dems get any time?
re: #61 thecommodore
I got CL’d, but as expected, wingnuts are crowing about Cohen’s answer about Prague.
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Re: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic”, hasn’t the official English name of the country been Czechia since some point in 2016?
re: #90 Barefoot Grin
I’m reading through these last two threads quickly, but one gets the impression that all the questions are being asked by Republicans. Don’t the Dems get any time?
Dems are asking questions. Pugs are giving testimony and calling Cohen a liar.
re: #90 Barefoot Grin
The Dems are actually asking questions. The Republicans are not. I think the expression is grandstanding.
Rep. Lawrence on Trump’s tweets encouraging scrutiny on Cohen’s family that resulted in his testimony being delayed: “I want to be clear — any efforts to prevent a witness from testifying in front of Congress is against the law… it’s a textbook mob tactic.” pic.twitter.com/9EEiKaYAo5
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 27, 2019
re: #93 BeachDem
Dems are asking questions. Pugs are giving testimony and calling Cohen a liar.
re: #95 PhillyPretzel
The Dems are actually asking questions. The Republicans are not. I think the expression is grandstanding.
Ok. Good. I can’t watch right now. I’ve got to run but will catch up tonight.
Chip Roy just referred to “known conservative magazine Mother Jones.” WUT. https://t.co/fVTRhdwacJ pic.twitter.com/C90oX6Ca3U
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
WTF is this moron talking about? (to clarify, I’m asking about Roy)
re: #92 Alephnaught
Re: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic”, hasn’t the official English name of the country been Czechia since some point in 2016?
Makes no difference, frankly. And no Czech I know refers to it as “Czechia” when they’re speaking English in any event. They always call it “Czech Republic”.
Roy seemed to be getting somewhere…then he took a sharp right straight into loonyland.
YOU WERE WORKING FOR TRUMP FOR YOURSELF, NOT LIKE ME RIGHT NOW
The righteous anger speech again.
Migrant crime! Drink!
Quivering lip and tears! Lindsey Grahm is ecstatic!
re: #84 Scottish Dragon
Still need to do it. Nixon had support until the case was made in public.
That was then: this is now.
The “case” against Trump has, fundamentally, been “made” since well before the election. It still seems to be an unverified assertion that any of the Republican “base” really give a flying about any of it - still less their Congressmen and Senators.
I recall, as the Watergate scandal unreeled, a lot of media commentary along the lines of amazement that even Nixon’s Washington supporters were appalled at the criminality that was uncovered, and how respect for the institutions of government would eventually win out over partisan loyalty.
In 2019, there’s no way that is going to happen with the current crew of Republicans.
re: #92 Alephnaught
Re: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic”, hasn’t the official English name of the country been Czechia since some point in 2016?
1. How close to any border is Prague? Could a cell-phone ping there from another country?
2. If somebody cloned his phone, would the clone-phone ping register as him pinging?
3. Did anybody ask if he ever loaned his phone to anybody?
re: #101 Dr Lizardo
Makes no difference, frankly. And no Czech I know refers to it as “Czechia” when they’re speaking English in any event. They always call it “Czech Republic”.
I was in the Czech Republic & Prague in 2015 but there’s no stamp in my passport because I entered the EU at Schiphol.
re: #84 Scottish Dragon
Still need to do it. Nixon had support until the case was made in public.
Nixon didn’t have Fox News to boost his support.
“Thank God the Democratic majority can walk and chew gum at the same time.”
GODDAMN!
re: #87 ObserverArt
All he is doing is trying to take the checks away as evidence. He’s pissing on them because there is no direct connection Trump gave him those checks for reimbursement of the Stormy payments.
We also have no evidence what Trump has discussed with Putin in Helsinki. I guess that is no problem and it doesn’t show how Trump operates.
It won’t work. Judge in NY already accepted them as fact in sentencing Cohen.
For a moment, there, I thought Chip Roy was going to cry about the waste of time of this hearing. (Was he around for the emails and Benghazi?)
re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg
Nixon didn’t have Fox News to boost his support.
And republicans weren’t on-the-whole as big of scumbags as they are now.
re: #110 Targetpractice
“Thank God the Democratic majority can walk and chew gum at the same time.”
GODDAMN!
Was that an actual quote? Who was it from?
re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg
Nixon didn’t have Fox News to boost his support.
There’s something good to think about. Could have been worse, like it is now….
re: #77 Scottish Dragon
This guy is claiming Cohen just paid Stormy for the hell of it?
Oh, sure, why not?
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re: #106 sagehen
1. How close to any border is Prague? Could a cell-phone ping there from another country?
2. If somebody cloned his phone, would the clone-phone ping register as him pinging?
3. Did anybody ask if he ever loaned his phone to anybody?
No, Prague is nowhere close to an international border. You typically have to be within five miles of one for your cell phone to ping a tower from the other country.
India demands Pakistan release pilot as Kashmir crisis intensifies https://t.co/cSCqdNzzcR
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) February 27, 2019
re: #69 Charles Johnson
Well we kind of thought the 11 Benghazi hearings were disappointing, too, so suck it up.
re: #112 Scottish Dragon
It won’t work. Judge in NY already accepted them as fact in sentencing Cohen.
I agree.
But it works for the FOX News Trump supporting crowd. I bet you will hear about that later.
And that is all these Republicans are doing, trying to hold that base together as best as possible. It is all they have. Well that and their outrage at these hearings.
re: #120 The Vicious Babushka
It’s the Indian Hulk Hogan, Brother!
Womp womp:
New: The Florida Bar confirms to me that it’s opened an investigation into @mattgaetz’ tweet yesterday. He’s a Bar-certified attorney in Florida. Many say the tweet was witness tampering.
— Danny Rivero (@TooMuchMe) February 27, 2019
I’m still no fan of Cohen, but it really is striking how completely he’s owning this stuff. Maybe it’s because he has nothing left to lose.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
I really want to see Gaetz get his ass handed to him.
re: #128 Charles Johnson
I agree with your assessment.
re: #128 Charles Johnson
That and the fact that lying now would abrogate his deals with prosecutors and open him up to even more criminal charges and the rest of his life in prison.
That’s plenty of incentive not to lie.
re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg
Nixon didn’t have Fox News to boost his support.
Even if Ailes’ pet project “GOPTV” has gotten off the ground when he proposed it in the 1970s, it wouldn’t have been around enough to sway public opinion … at the time.
House Oversight Cmte. members still to question Michael Cohen:
• Rep. Plaskett
• Rep. Khanna
• Rep. Gomez
• Rep. Ocasio-Cortez
• Rep. Pressley
• Rep. Tlaib— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 27, 2019
re: #128 Charles Johnson
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Or because one lie will cause him to lose everything he has left.
So, sanity break time.
This is a fan trailer edited by Topher Grace (Eric Forman from That ’70s Show) and all I can say is, yeah, we need to get Topher to edit the upcoming Episode IX.
And also, he’s a solid actor - he played David Duke in BlacKkKlansman - and he was damned good; he has some serious dramatic chops, but he’s a damned fine editor.
Seeing that fan trailer reminded me of what the Star Wars films can be.
Good. https://t.co/C6IQoPM0zi
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
NEW: Cohen says call between Stone and Trump about Wikileaks took place on July 18 or July 19, 2016. If true, that would mean the call happened the EXACT same day or one day after Mueller said Wikileaks told Guccifer it had received the stolen DNC archive https://t.co/Tag4VhdomA
— Dustin Volz (@dnvolz) February 27, 2019
re: #124 ObserverArt
I agree.
But it works for the FOX News Trump supporting crowd. I bet you will hear about that later.
And that is all these Republicans are doing, trying to hold that base together as best as possible. It is all they have. Well that and their outrage at these hearings.
They have to keep the base totally unified, no defections at all. But even with their base constitued the way it is, that’s still a daunting task for them.
re: #101 Dr Lizardo
Makes no difference, frankly. And no Czech I know refers to it as “Czechia” when they’re speaking English in any event. They always call it “Czech Republic”.
Same here. (I thought “Czechia” was a bit of a wonky name when I first heard of it.)
Curiouser and curiouser that he denies being even in the country then, given that story about the mobile phone ping from Cohen’s mobile somewhere near Prague, round about the timeframe suggested by the Steele Dossier. Hmmm…
re: #61 thecommodore
I got CL’d, but as expected, wingnuts are crowing about Cohen’s answer about Prague.
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Wait - didn’t they just spend 3 hours telling us not to believe anything he says? So….
Twitter just reminded me that AOC is on this committee. That might just be the thing that finally implodes Twitter. Also, they might want to have paramedics on stand by for Jordan and Meadows when that exchange inevitably leads to aneurysms
re: #139 Alephnaught
Same here. (I thought “Czechia” was a bit of a wonky name when I first heard of it.)
Curiouser and curiouser that he denies being even in the country then, given that story about the mobile phone ping from Cohen’s mobile somewhere near Prague, round about the timeframe suggested by the Steele Dossier. Hmmm…
Yeah - but no one asked him if he lent his phone to someone else.
But what I don’t get is why would he even take his phone with him to Prague. If he has international roaming and a GSM phone, OK, sure. But he could buy a new SIM card here anywhere, from supermarkets to tobacconists; they’re cheap and totally anonymous (you don’t have to register a prepaid SIM card here at all).
According to Wikipedia,
Cohen volunteered for the 1988 presidential campaign of Michael Dukakis.[6] He was also an intern for Congressman Joe Moakley[13] and voted for Barack Obama in 2008, although he later became disappointed with Obama.[6]
In 2003, he unsuccessfully ran as a Republican for the New York City Council from the Fourth Council District (a Manhattan district).[24] Cohen received 4,205 votes, and was defeated by Democratic candidate Eva S. Moskowitz, who received 13,745 votes.[33] In 2010, Cohen briefly campaigned for a seat in the New York State Senate.[13][34] He was a registered Democrat until he officially registered as a Republican on March 9, 2017.[35][36][non-primary source needed] On October 11, 2018, Cohen re-registered himself as a Democrat in an effort to distance “himself from the values of the current” administration.
But I thought he was a lying liar who can’t be trusted??? https://t.co/pFpCutPcmI
— Thanks For Sharing Jerk (@Thx4SharingJerk) February 27, 2019
Somewhere, Don the Junior knows his father is spending the day with the son he really wanted.
— John Weaver (@jwgop) February 27, 2019
re: #139 Alephnaught
Same here. (I thought “Czechia” was a bit of a wonky name when I first heard of it.)
Curiouser and curiouser that he denies being even in the country then, given that story about the mobile phone ping from Cohen’s mobile somewhere near Prague, round about the timeframe suggested by the Steele Dossier. Hmmm…
That may eventually be explained. Cohen was probably told he cannot go too deep into all of those type questions because Mueller is still working on the whole Russian side of things.
NoCal flooding - worst in decades. Sonoma County getting hard hit, Guerneville is seeing flooding and could crest at 46 feet (currently 32 feet).
And speaking of flooding :
CNBC just tweeted and then deleted a tweet claiming that there will be signing ceremony tomorrow between Trump and Jong Un despite no one knowing what is being signed or what was agreed to or anything else.
UPDATE:
Guess they had technical issue, because new tweet posts essentially same:
President Trump and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un will participate in a “joint agreement signing ceremony” tomorrow, though what exactly they’ll be agreeing to is not clear. https://t.co/xRVgIuGSwG pic.twitter.com/bsrBG3QN0z
— CNBC (@CNBC) February 27, 2019
From North Carolina:
McCrae Dowless, the Bladen County political operative who emerged as a central figure in the investigation into irregularities in the 9th Congressional District, was arrested and charged Wednesday with a series of felonies primarily related to his handling of absentee ballots in the 2016 general election and 2018 primary.
Dowless was charged with three counts of felonious obstruction of justice, two counts of conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice and two counts of possession of an absentee ballot. Four others - Caitlyn Croom, Matthew Mathis, Tonia Gordon and Rebecca Thompson - face charges of conspiracy to obstruct justice and one count of possession of an absentee ballot, according to a press release from Wake County District Attorney Lorrin Freeman’s Office.
[…] A Wake County judge set Dowless’ secured bond at $30,000 and ordered him to have no contact with anyone named in the documents. As of about noon Tuesday, according to Freeman, Dowless was being transported by authorities to Wake County.
re: #150 lawhawk
NoCal flooding - worst in decades. Sonoma County getting hard hit, Guerneville is seeing flooding and could crest at 46 feet (currently 32 feet).
And speaking of flooding :
CNBC just tweeted and then deleted a tweet claiming that there will be signing ceremony tomorrow between Trump and Jong Un despite no one knowing what is being signed or what was agreed to or anything else.
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Trump adopting Kim as his real son?
re: #150 lawhawk
NoCal flooding - worst in decades. Sonoma County getting hard hit, Guerneville is seeing flooding and could crest at 46 feet (currently 32 feet).
And speaking of flooding :
CNBC just tweeted and then deleted a tweet claiming that there will be signing ceremony tomorrow between Trump and Jong Un despite no one knowing what is being signed or what was agreed to or anything else.
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Trump likes to sign his name…
I have to admit, the House Republicans are doing a really good job of showing that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and long-time confidant was a total dirtbag.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2019
re: #149 ObserverArt
That may eventually be explained. Cohen was probably told he cannot go too deep into all of those type questions because Mueller is still working on the whole Russian side of things.
I was wondering about that. But what he said today seems like quite a flat denial: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic.” If that’s not the case, he’d better have a good reason for saying that.
If there is one thing I love about the study of ancient history, it’s the reassuring universality of human experience. https://t.co/RiR5PGY0oH
— Myke Cole (@MykeCole) February 27, 2019
re: #155 Alephnaught
I was wondering about that. But what he said today seems like quite a flat denial: “I’ve never been to the Czech Republic.” If that’s not the case, he’d better have a good reason for saying that.
The Russian mob might be a pretty good reason. They don’t hold hearings, they just kill your ass.
re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White
Like that check Cohen showed.
I loved seeing that. It all became more than just words. A picture is worth…
One of the Repubs was complaining that the Dems were bringing in this convicted felon, this admitted liar in to testify, and lamenting that they didn’t bring an honest man to testify.
I thought, “Right. Because you’d hire an honest man for a criminal organization.”
I mean, who do they think works for Mob bosses and other criminal organizations?
re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White
One of the Repubs was complaining that the Dems were bringing in this convicted felon, this admitted liar in to testify, and lamenting that they didn’t bring an honest man to testify.
I thought, “Right. Because you’d hire an honest man for a criminal organization.”
I mean, who do they think works for Mob bosses and other criminal organizations?
Seriously it’s like they have no idea how this happens.
re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White
One of the Repubs was complaining that the Dems were bringing in this convicted felon, this admitted liar in to testify, and lamenting that they didn’t bring an honest man to testify.
I thought, “Right. Because you’d hire an honest man for a criminal organization.”
I mean, who do they think works for Mob bosses and other criminal organizations?
You mean the guy that was your party’s campaign finance chair? That guy?
re: #162 Sir John Barron
You mean the guy that was your party’s campaign finance chair? That guy?
Seriously.
re: #153 Semper Fi
Trump likes to sign his name…
We agreed to sign this agreement saying that we agreed to sign this agreement.
re: #162 Sir John Barron
You mean the guy that was your party’s campaign finance chair? That guy?
Which one? Cohen? Wynn? Broidy?
Republicans thundering about incorrectly filling out a form, when this White House has had to fix hundreds of forms full of evasions and lies, is amazing chutzpah even by the corrupted standards of this ghastly bunch.
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) February 27, 2019
re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White
One of the Repubs was complaining that the Dems were bringing in this convicted felon, this admitted liar in to testify, and lamenting that they didn’t bring an honest man to testify.
I thought, “Right. Because you’d hire an honest man for a criminal organization.”
I mean, who do they think works for Mob bosses and other criminal organizations?
Well we can’t understand why you’d nominate a thrice-married, multiple bankruptcy filing, fake university creating, p*ssy grabbing casino owner, either, but here we are.
re: #167 Sir John Barron
Well we can’t understand why you’d nominate a thrice-married, multiple bankruptcy filing, fake university creating, p*ssy grabbing casino owner, either, but here we are.
Don’t forget racist.
re: #164 KGxvi
We agreed to sign this agreement saying that we agreed to sign this agreement.
“The Party of the First Part shall be known in this contract as the Party of the First Part…”
The problem, of course, that without a smoking-gun for COLLUSION!, all that will ever be talked about is how there is supposedly not collusion… and all the other stuff about how ugly the whole Trump thing is will get swept under the rug.
Seems to me that the Democrats should be pushing the salacious aspects more… not the Russian thing.
I’m afraid that a great share of the American public only pays attention when there is either sex or bombs involved.
re: #171 freetoken
The problem, of course, that without a smoking-gun for COLLUSION!, all that will ever be talked about is how there is supposedly not collusion… and all the other stuff about how ugly the whole Trump thing is will get swept under the rug.
Except that GRU=> Wikileaks=> Stone=> Trump IS collusion. Like Manafort giving Trump campaign polling data to Kilimnik.
re: #167 Sir John Barron
Well we can’t understand why you’d nominate a thrice-married, multiple bankruptcy filing, fake university creating, p*ssy grabbing casino owner, either, but here we are.
Look at the other choices on offer…he truly was the strongest candidate.
re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White
Except that GRU=> Wikileaks=> Stone=> Trump IS collusion. Like Manafort giving Trump campaign polling data to Kilimnik.
That’s all too complicated.
If you have to explain it then you lose.
This is what makes me sad about my American society.
Sure looks like Republicans are about to pick up another motion to Recommit. 218 on the board on HR8, to add provision notifying ICE when illegal immigrant tries to buy a gun.
— Mike DeBonis (@mikedebonis) February 27, 2019
re: #178 lawhawk
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I thought they were pro second amendment. I’m being tongue in cheek.
They fart in his general direction.
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) February 27, 2019
re: #180 NO SMOCKING GUN!
David Gerrold
So as near as I can figure out, the Republican response to Michael Cohen’s testimony is that his father was a hamster and his mother smells of elderberries. Did I miss anything?
aagcobb
They fart in his general direction.
And that he should go away before they taunt him again!
Remember: public Congressional hearings are theatre. They exist so that members can get their favorite out-takes and use them in campaigning.
Someone should remind Kayleigh and Ronna that as as late as Jun 2018, the RNC still refused to fire Michael Cohen. He resigned.https://t.co/H1tRz5P7NH
— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) February 27, 2019
re: #183 jaunte
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I think Cohen is harder bullshit to get off their shoes than Manafort or Flynn.
Check out @KenDilanianNBC’s Tweet:
Three people with direct knowledge tell NBC News that Alan Weisselberg is not cooperating, has never been a cooperating witness, and provided limited details in the course of his testimony last summer. There is a lot of misunderstanding on this. @Tom_Winter @annaschecter report.
— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) February 27, 2019
re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Of course not, Weisselberg has worked for the Trumps since the 1970s when Fred was still running the show. He’s basically a member of the family and is as dirty as any of them.
re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Check out @KenDilanianNBC’s Tweet:
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someone is going to jail for a long time.
“Trump can’t be racist, he’s hired a black person before. Also I’ve never heard him say anything racist…so he can’t be racist”
Who thought this was a good idea??? https://t.co/RfRj6t4My4— Omynee (@Omynee_Hurts) February 27, 2019
Racists think it disproves racism. This is right up there with the folks who think that Kamala Harris having slaveowner ancestors is some kind of ‘Gotcha’, or that Trump forcibly kissing a black woman campaign staffer means he’s not racist.
IOW, it’s the sort of thing racists think exonerates you for racism. It’s sillier than ‘Some of my best friends are…”
This week in genealogy Mecca (that is, Utah), there is a big conference, RootsTech, and companies are rolling out all sorts of goodies, so I’ve spent all morning playing with some software.
As such, I’ve missed the testimony.
From what I see on Twitter, not much has changed in regards to moving the needle in opinions.
Those of us who have noticed that Trump is bad and crooked feel vindicated, while the MAGAbots are just the same as always.
re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White
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Racists think it disproves racism. This is right up there with the folks who think that Kamala Harris having slaveowner ancestors is some kind of ‘Gotcha’, or that Trump forcibly kissing a black woman campaign staffer means he’s not racist.
IOW, it’s the sort of thing racists think exonerates you for racism. It’s sillier than ‘Some of my best friends are…”
Is it any wonder why their party rank and file is as white as it is?
re: #191 freetoken
This week in genealogy Mecca (that is, Utah), there is a big conference, RootsTech, and companies are rolling out all sorts of goodies, so I’ve spent all morning playing with some software.
As such, I’ve missed the testimony.
From what I see on Twitter, not much has changed in regards to moving the needle in opinions.
Those of us who have noticed that Trump is bad and crooked feel vindicated, while the MAGAbots are just the same as always.
Yeah Ancestry updated its results system.
re: #192 HappyWarrior
Is it any wonder why their party rank and file is as white as it is?
These are the people who cannot grasp how deeply, implicitly racist the whole “Democrat Plantation” idea is.
The Cohen hearing done? I had to run home and clean a mess that my puppy left. I hope I didn’t miss the second act of this wonderful show.
re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!
That should have warning signs all over it.
Because Weisselberg opens himself up to huge criminal liability and spending the rest of his life behind bars. He was supposedly getting a limited immunity for assisting, but if he’s not cooperating, SDNY will treat him accordingly.
re: #196 CongoJack
The Cohen hearing done? I had to run home and clean a mess that my puppy left. I hope I didn’t miss the second act of this wonderful show.
When Cohen hearing reconvenes, there will be no more Republicans left to question and a handful of junior Dems, including AOC
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) February 27, 2019
Whew—no more of the Gym and Mark show.
re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White
These are the people who cannot grasp how deeply, implicitly racist the whole “Democrat Plantation” idea is.
Seriously it’s one of the most racist things they do. Or saying outright African American voters don’t know that the GOP supported abolition and was Abe’s party.
re: #198 BeachDem
Good. Those two are a disgrace.
re: #177 freetoken
That’s all too complicated.
If you have to explain it then you lose.
This is what makes me sad about my American society.
Which is white President Nixon served the remainder of his term.
Oh and I can’t tell you this many conservatives think equating the NAACP or BLM with the Klan is sound to say.
re: #182 freetoken
Remember: public Congressional hearings are theatre. They exist so that members can get their favorite out-takes and use them in campaigning.
Then we shouldn’t even be holding this hearing and all of us should not be watching?
re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White
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Racists think it disproves racism. This is right up there with the folks who think that Kamala Harris having slaveowner ancestors is some kind of ‘Gotcha’, or that Trump forcibly kissing a black woman campaign staffer means he’s not racist.
IOW, it’s the sort of thing racists think exonerates you for racism. It’s sillier than ‘Some of my best friends are…”
Rep. Lawrence (who represents my district) said it was complete bullshit.
Rep. Brenda Lawrence: “I just want to put on the record, as being a black American and having endured the public comments of racism from the sitting president, as being a black person, I can only imagine what’s being said in private.”
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 27, 2019
re: #182 freetoken
Remember: public Congressional hearings are theatre. They exist so that members can get their favorite out-takes and use them in campaigning.
Well that is what the Rs have turned them in to. What they ARE, are questions being asked to hold people accountable for their actions and to put them on the public record. We can’t be nihilist when it comes to the functions of government.
re: #204 The Vicious Babushka
Rep. Lawrence (who represents my district) said it was complete bullshit.
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We’re almost out of the recess… which means….. Let’s get ready to rumble!
Rashida Tlaib, AOC and Ayanna Pressley right about now. pic.twitter.com/u89Nq8Tyfw
— Jennifer Hayden (@Scout_Finch) February 27, 2019
re: #203 ObserverArt
Then we shouldn’t even be holding this hearing and all of us should not be watching?
When theatre is good there are usually many people behind the scenes - producers, stage designers, lighting, sound, etc.
What I am saying is that the goal of hearings is about presentation. Substance is a thing for courts.
What I’ve noticed is they can only attack witnesses against their crimes. They can’t do anything that proves or suggests they)the Trumps) were clean. I really think RICO applies to the entire Trump Org
re: #209 HappyWarrior
What I’ve noticed is they can only attack witnesses against their crimes. They can’t do anything that proves or suggests they were clean. I really think RICO applies to the entire Trump .Org
Suave….
And guess which group of federal prosecutors is really adept at RICO (suave).
If you guessed the SDNY, you’d be right.
re: #210 lawhawk
Suave….
And guess which group of federal prosecutors is really adept at RICO (suave).
If you guessed the SDNY, you’d be right.
Yep. SDNY would be the RICO guys. I see Trump and the Trump Org as a criminal enterprise.
WaPo really has some very good coverage of these hearings,
re: #208 freetoken
When theatre is good there are usually many people behind the scenes - producers, stage designers, lighting, sound, etc.
What I am saying is that the goal of hearings is about presentation. Substance is a thing for courts.
And you are completely forgetting about the court of public opinion.
The public often has no view inside the actual courtroom. We do not get to see the grand juries and the trials like for Manafort.
We would never hear from Cohen if not for today.
This hearing today is important for Joe America to see, hear about, agree or disagree to. But they are going to be pressed to face it, where they can ignore it in a trial.
And Jordan and Meadows are in the room! More Freedumb showtime.
Cohen is destroying the last shreds of credibility of Trump the man, while Trump is in Vietnam destroying the credibility of the US presidency, dancing to Putin’s tune and flattering a mass-murdering dictator.
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) February 27, 2019
re: #215 Charles Johnson
Garry is so right.
re: #216 PhillyPretzel
Garry is so right.
He knows how this shit goes. He’s got plenty of experience.
re: #66 KGxvi
Going against US Attorneys is generally a losing proposition. Going against US Attorneys for the Southern District of New York is basically the worst case scenario. They are typically the best of the best.
yeah, i seriously thought about trying to change careers to lawyering several years ago. did a ton of research. was surprised to discover that trying to get a job in most prosecutorial offices means being in the top 10 percent of the class and clerking for somebody after L1. I did not realize that prosecutors were generally the best gigs, just because I assume the money is horrible.
re: #216 PhillyPretzel
Garry is so right.
The GOP Honey Badger got tax cuts for the rich done. It doesn’t give a shit about anything else, until the next tax cuts for the rich.
Marky Moron probably believes that Borat himself has been paying for Cohen’s testimony.
I thought these two clowns were not supposed to be in this part of the questioning.
re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg
I still don’t think the GOP senate would ever vote to Impeach Trump, unless they thought their asses were hopelessly fried in the next election if they didn’t.
Problem is, the GOP base won’t give a shit about any of this and continue to crawl over hot coals to vote Republican because MAGA, Socialism, AOC, etc.
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That’s why I don’t think the Senate will go for it even if the House were to Impeach.
you know, i’ve decided this is fine. if republicans want to save trump and have him run in 2020, after the house has presented an overwhelming case of corruption and malfeasance, let them.
re: #221 PhillyPretzel
I thought these two clowns were not supposed to be in this part of the questioning.
They’re just pre/post-whining about something from this morning. Cummings pretty much shut them up.
re: #218 steve_davis
yeah, i seriously thought about trying to change careers to lawyering several years ago. did a ton of research. was surprised to discover that trying to get a job in most prosecutorial offices means being in the top 10 percent of the class and clerking for somebody after L1. I did not realize that prosecutors were generally the best gigs, just because I assume the money is horrible.
At the state level, it’s a bit easier to get a job as a prosecutor. I had plenty of friends who did straight out of law school. It’s typically a good path to become a judge. It also gets you trial experience right away, which is useful if/when you switch to private practice. The US Attorney’s office though is a lot tougher to get - there are fewer jobs and higher stakes (as an assistant district attorney at the state level you’re going to get things like shoplifting or DUIs out of the gate, but there’s really no such thing as a “small federal crime”)
The best part of this whole hearing is that, at least on all of the news sites I’ve checked, it is getting coverage about 20-1 over his ridiculous “summit.” That’s gotta have him spittin’ cheeseburders.
That one must have been uncomfortable, to the point of feeling berated by Khanna’s tone of voice, even though he was really berating the Trump Org.
re: #226 BeachDem
The best part of this whole hearing is that, at least on all of the news sites I’ve checked, it is getting coverage about 20-1 over his ridiculous “summit.” That’s gotta have him spittin’ cheeseburders.
Trump is going to announce our withdraw from South Korea or something as equally impulsively asinine just to get the headlines back.
re: #226 BeachDem
The best part of this whole hearing is that, at least on all of the news sites I’ve checked, it is getting coverage about 20-1 over his ridiculous “summit.” That’s gotta have him spittin’ cheeseburders.
Unfortunately, even that is getting 20-to-1 coverage over the Indo—Pakistani War. And that one is probably at least as importatant as any of this.
re: #229 Chrysicat
Unfortunately, even that is getting 20-to-1 coverage over the Indo—Pakistani War. And that one is probably at least as importatant as any of this.
The scary thing is… do we really think there’s anything that Trump could/would do that would ease tensions in that conflict?
re: #226 BeachDem
The best part of this whole hearing is that, at least on all of the news sites I’ve checked, it is getting coverage about 20-1 over his ridiculous “summit.” That’s gotta have him spittin’
cheeseburderscheesberders.
re: #230 KGxvi
The scary thing is… do we really think there’s anything that Trump could/would do that would ease tensions in that conflict?
Hell not even by purpose but by his sheer ignorance about the region.
re: #230 KGxvi
The scary thing is… do we really think there’s anything that Trump could/would do that would ease tensions in that conflict?
Nope. Chances are he’d say stupid shit that would piss both countries off and make things worse.
re: #230 KGxvi
The scary thing is… do we really think there’s anything that Trump could/would do that would ease tensions in that conflict?
Stay out of it.
re: #218 steve_davis
yeah, i seriously thought about trying to change careers to lawyering several years ago. did a ton of research. was surprised to discover that trying to get a job in most prosecutorial offices means being in the top 10 percent of the class and clerking for somebody after L1. I did not realize that prosecutors were generally the best gigs, just because I assume the money is horrible.
It is a way to fast track into big name firms, federal judiciary, and occasionally politics.
So now Meadows is entering emails and tweets into public record???
How do we get to question those?
Given the difficulty the Trump White House has in hiring good people, why do R’s think claiming Cohen was desperate for a White House job is a good line of attack?
re: #233 PhillyPretzel
This a*hole again.
Somebody really did some digging for Gym and Markie Mark over the recess. Dog, I hate those two assholes a lot.
re: #240 BeachDem
Somebody really did some digger for Gym and Markie Mark over the recess. Dog, I hate those two assholes a lot.
Yep, the Traitor Twins seem to be doing a moderately-good job of usurping control over the hearing even though Cummings told them to stay out of this part.
re: #230 KGxvi
The scary thing is… do we really think there’s anything that Trump could/would do that would ease tensions in that conflict?
Probably not, unfortunately.
A REAL President would probably be on the horn to his FP team right away to at least try to head off any further conflict: most likely getting the UN involved, or at least making an attempt to look like “leadership”.
Even more unfortunately, we have Donald Trump in the WH, so I guess the best we can hope for is that he or his crew of idiots don’t make things worse. Which is not a bet I’d immediately take…
She is good. I like the fact she has her questions written down. After Cohen answers the question she says Thank You.
re: #247 PhillyPretzel
She is good. I like the fact she has her questions written down. After Cohen answers the question she says Thank You.
If I didn’t know better, I’d say she’s taken several depositions
This just got pretty racist: Alex Jones is on the Joe Rogan show and just casually claimed (Rogan just enjoying himself) that the government runs Mexico like a lab because Native Americans “genetically” go into groupthink pretty fast and therefore are easier to “mind control” pic.twitter.com/e0W5rkUlel
— cristina lópez g. (@crislopezg) February 27, 2019
re: #247 PhillyPretzel
She is good. I like the fact she has her questions written down. After Cohen answers the question she says Thank You.
I imagine these hearings will be the first most American people will be seeing her so she’s right to try to make a good impression by being calm and prepared. She’s know a jerk like Meadows or Jordan who have no problem being assholes all the time.
Allen Weisselberg is going to be getting a subpoena to testify before Congress in the next (checks clock) 6 hours.
She got kinda deep in the weeds on tax fraud there
re: #248 KGxvi
If I didn’t know better, I’d say she’s taken several depositions
I really think so many people that dislike her underestimate her intelligence both on facts and political street smarts.
re: #249 Teukka
Joe Rogan needs to go the fuck away.
re: #251 KGxvi
Allen Weisselberg is going to be getting a subpoena to testify before Congress in the next (checks clock) 6 hours.
He’ll probably claim executive privilege dating back to 1976.
re: #250 HappyWarrior
…Meadows or Jordan who have no problem being assholes all the time.
Like the scorpion, it’s just their nature.
Striking exchange at #Cohen hearing:
Rep. Khanna (D-CA): “Are you telling us, Mr. Cohen, that the President directed transactions in conspiracy with Allen Weisselberg and his son, Donald Trump Jr…as part of a criminal conspiracy of financial fraud?”
Cohen: “Yes.”— Rob Legare (@rob_legare) February 27, 2019
Unindicted coconspirator Donald J. Trump.
Unindicted coconspirator Donald Trump Jr.
Unindicted coconspirator Alan Weisselberg.
That’s the ballgame folks. The SDNY has those three on federal felonies, and it’s only a matter of time before those indictments are handed out. If Trump goes the pardon route, all is not lost, because there are state crime equivalents for those financial crimes, which means Trump, Junior, and Weisselberg could all be indicted by NY prosecutors.
re: #254 KGxvi
Joe Rogan needs to go the fuck away.
I was discussing him with my brother who is a listener because Rogan goes out of his way to get people like Jones on the show and he said he feels Rogan is way way too agreeable with his guests even when they espouse crazy shit like that.
re: #226 BeachDem
The best part of this whole hearing is that, at least on all of the news sites I’ve checked, it is getting coverage about 20-1 over his ridiculous “summit.” That’s gotta have him spittin’ cheeseburders.
Any feel for what those news site are saying about the Republican and Democrat questioning and approach to this hearing?
re: #251 KGxvi
Allen Weisselberg is going to be getting a subpoena to testify before Congress in the next (checks clock) 6 hours.
That would make Trump shit himself so violently he’d end up in low earth orbit.
re: #249 Teukka
Alex Jones is on the Joe Rogan show and
Wait, I think I see the problem here….
Seriously, talk about people living in a bubble, wingnut radio goons spend their time going on each other’s hate radio programs.
Lot of good Dems on this committee. I campaigned for Connolly’s re-election when I went to school in his district.
re: #258 lawhawk
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Unindicted coconspirator Donald J. Trump.
Unindicted coconspirator Donald Trump Jr.
Unindicted coconspirator Alan Weisselberg.That’s the ballgame folks. The SDNY has those three on federal felonies, and it’s only a matter of time before those indictments are handed out. If Trump goes the pardon route, all is not lost, because there are state crime equivalents for those financial crimes, which means Trump, Junior, and Weisselberg could all be indicted by NY prosecutors.
I wonder if Trump using the pardon power in that case would be the straw that broke the camel’s back for Congressional Republicans?
Also, there’s a case pending before the Supreme Court that may provide double jeopardy protect in that case.
.@AOC may have just opened the door to the committee subpoenaing Trump’s tax returns - she got Cohen to say there is evidence of Trump’s insurance fraud. Tax returns would need to be compared to insurance applications to find inconsistencies, and whether either was accurate.
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) February 27, 2019
re: #264 KGxvi
I wonder if Trump using the pardon power in that case would be the straw that broke the camel’s back for Congressional Republicans?
Also, there’s a case pending before the Supreme Court that may provide double jeopardy protect in that case.
No, as Trump said, he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave, and he wouldn’t lose his support.
Rashida Tlaib kills it! Meadows is mad, bro.
re: #264 KGxvi
I wonder if Trump using the pardon power in that case would be the straw that broke the camel’s back for Congressional Republicans?
Also, there’s a case pending before the Supreme Court that may provide double jeopardy protect in that case.
Unless Trump is dumb enough to try to pardon before they are tried.
Oooooh…..Rep. Tlaib says bringing a black woman as Trump’s friend to prove he isn’t racist is “a little bit racist by itself” and Meadows is maaaaaaad.
— Jennifer Hayden (@Scout_Finch) February 27, 2019
GOP stunts backfire…with predictable results.
Dem Rep. Ayanna Pressley’s question: “Would you agree that someone could deny rental units to African-Americans, lead the birther movement, refer to the diaspora as ‘shithole countries’ and refer to white supremacists as ‘fine people,’ have a black friend, and still be racist?”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 27, 2019
re: #261 EPR-radar
e: #251 KGxvi
Allen Weisselberg is going to be getting a subpoena to testify before Congress in the next (checks clock) 6 hours.
That would make Trump shit himself so violently he’d end up in low earth orbit.
Dunno: from what I’ve read, Weisselberg has remained obstinately mute regarding investigations in Trump Org business dealings. Which is only to be expected: he started with them back (I think) when old Fred was still running things: and IIRC, he’s the guy who knows the location of every bone on every skeleton in every closet of the Trump Organization. Not sure what it’s going to take to get someone supposedly as tight-lipped as Weisselberg to spill: after that long working for the Trumps, he’s probably mastered the skills of lawyering up to a fine art….
re: #273 Belafon
Details, please.
Rashida described the use of Lynn Patton as a “prop” and called it “a racist act” and Mark Meadows is all butthurt at being called a “racist”
re: #260 ObserverArt
Any feel for what those news site are saying about the Republican and Democrat questioning and approach to this hearing?
A few headlines:
From Raw Story—
Trump ally Alan Dershowitz gets gloomy over Cohen hearing: ‘This is not a good day for the president’
Republicans are ‘making no effort to find truth’ and are ‘failing their Constitutional responsibilities’: Ex-CIA director
Republicans brutally mocked for their bizarre obsession with potential Cohen book deals
From HuffPo:
LIVE: COHEN DAY — BOMBS AWAY!…and he brought receipts
CNN:
Cohen: Trump asked me to threaten hundreds
Cohen calls out GOP: ‘Not one question’ on Trump
NBC:
COHEN SLAMS TRUMP’S CHARACTER, DEALINGS AND GIVES NEW DETAILS ON HUSH PAYMENTS
WaPo
LIVE UPDATES
Trump was deeply involved in hush money plan, Cohen says
Testimony is rife with legal and political danger for Trump
And also—shut the fuck up, Mark Meadows. Jeez.
re: #278 Jay C
Dunno: from what I’ve read, Weisselberg has remained obstinately mute regarding investigations in Trump Org business dealings. Which is only to be expected: he started with them back (I think) when old Fred was still running things: and IIRC, he’s the guy who knows the location of every bone on every skeleton in every closet of the Trump Organization. Not sure what it’s going to take to get someone supposedly as tight-lipped as Weisselberg to spill: after that long working for the Trumps, he’s probably mastered the skills of lawyering up to a fine art….
That’s someone who really does deserve hard time at Gitmo.
re: #252 Scottish Dragon
She got kinda deep in the weeds on tax fraud there
I think she was doing two things.
One: showing how stupid it is for these Republicans to be hammering Cohen on tax issues knowing full well they and all of America has no idea what “crimes” Trump has committed in his tax filings.
Two: Showing how important it is for the American public to get to see tax forms for all presidential candidates.
It all goes to her basic platform of the rich getting away with a lot that ordinary people pay for.
“Mah nieces and nephews are people of color, which I don’t see.”
re: #279 The Vicious Babushka
Rashida described the use of Lynn Patton as a “prop” and called it “a racist act” and Mark Meadows is all butthurt at being called a “racist”
He’s a triggered little snowflake and Rep. Cummings is now taking him to the cleaners.
Ayanna Pressley giving some epic sideeye.
I’m really impressed honestly with the freshmen today. This is how you get noticed.
re: #288 HappyWarrior
I’m really impressed honestly with the freshmen today. This is how you get noticed.
There is hope for the future.
re: #280 BeachDem
Was Fox news…. look a potato!
re: #288 HappyWarrior
I’m really impressed honestly with the freshmen today. This is how you get noticed.
And this is why our party needed to diversify.
re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg
There is hope for the future.
Oh yeah I’m very optimistic about the future of the Democratic Party for the 2020’s and beyond.
Now the Republicans are asking unanimous consent to a bunch of media sources that Trump has labeled “Fake News”
Evening Lizardim.
[Crash.]
[BSOD.]
re: #280 BeachDem
A few headlines:
From Raw Story—
Trump ally Alan Dershowitz gets gloomy over Cohen hearing: ‘This is not a good day for the president’Republicans are ‘making no effort to find truth’ and are ‘failing their Constitutional responsibilities’: Ex-CIA director
Republicans brutally mocked for their bizarre obsession with potential Cohen book deals
From HuffPo:
LIVE: COHEN DAY — BOMBS AWAY!…and he brought receiptsCNN:
Cohen: Trump asked me to threaten hundreds
Cohen calls out GOP: ‘Not one question’ on TrumpNBC:
COHEN SLAMS TRUMP’S CHARACTER, DEALINGS AND GIVES NEW DETAILS ON HUSH PAYMENTSWaPo
LIVE UPDATES
Trump was deeply involved in hush money plan, Cohen saysTestimony is rife with legal and political danger for Trump
And also—shut the fuck up, Mark Meadows. Jeez.
Thank you very much, Greatly appreciate that summation.
You do good reports! : )
re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg
Meanwhile, over in Fox News Land:
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Sensational Trump theories. Go to hell already Rupert.
re: #290 451_Montag
Was Fox news…. look a potato!
Now you made me go to Fox—that was mean!
Main header: WATCH LIVE: Trump’s ex-lawyer says president provided inflated assets to an insurance company
But they also have these little headers:
Kurtz: Wall-to-wall TV as convicted criminal Cohen accuses ex-boss Trump
TOM DEL BECCARO: Why what Cohen is doing is so damaging to Americans
GERALDO RIVERA: Cohen’s backstabbing, personal betrayal of Trump will fail
re: #278 Jay C
Dunno: from what I’ve read, Weisselberg has remained obstinately mute regarding investigations in Trump Org business dealings. Which is only to be expected: he started with them back (I think) when old Fred was still running things: and IIRC, he’s the guy who knows the location of every bone on every skeleton in every closet of the Trump Organization. Not sure what it’s going to take to get someone supposedly as tight-lipped as Weisselberg to spill: after that long working for the Trumps, he’s probably mastered the skills of lawyering up to a fine art….
They can bring him before Congress and make him invoke the Fifth Amendment in response to every question. It’d be pure theater, but well fucking worth it.
re: #288 HappyWarrior
I’m really impressed honestly with the freshmen today. This is how you get noticed.
Yes: I saw the list of HOC Dems backthread, and I noticed right away that they had three freshman Reps on the Committee waiting to question Michael Cohen: and that they were three (Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley and Tlaib)that were virtually certain to get the GOPers’ goat. And also certain to end up riling the RW media: I’m sure they will be being described as “Crazy Socialist”; “Antisemitic Jihadist” and some slur about Ayanna Pressley that I’m sure they’ll concoct - as if representing Boston isn’t “bad” enough…..
Cohen is telling DT off. That is beautiful.
Hahahahaha…
Cohen: we honor veterans in the rain
Damn… I don’t want to say it… but Cohen has made me happy today.
This closing statement is on effing fire.
re: #299 BeachDem
Now you made me go to Fox—that was mean!
Main header: WATCH LIVE: Trump’s ex-lawyer says president provided inflated assets to an insurance company
But they also have these little headers:
Kurtz: Wall-to-wall TV as convicted criminal Cohen accuses ex-boss Trump
TOM DEL BECCARO: Why what Cohen is doing is so damaging to Americans
GERALDO RIVERA: Cohen’s backstabbing, personal betrayal of Trump will fail
I wonder if Fox is so eager to cover up for Trump is because some of their own air “talent” like Hannity is criminally involved with Trump likely.
“We honor veterans in the rain…”
Whoa, Cohen calling Trump out directly on … pretty much everything he’s done…
Could it be? Is Cohen finally out of fucks to give?
re: #301 Jay C
Yes: I saw the list of HOC Dems backthread, and I noticed right away that they had three freshman Reps on the Committee waiting to question Michael Cohen: and that they were three (Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley and Tlaib)that were virtually certain to get the GOPers’ goat. And also certain to end up riling the RW media: I’m sure they will be being described as “Crazy Socialist”; “Antisemitic Jihadist” and some slur about Ayanna Pressley that I’m sure they’ll concoct - as if representing Boston isn’t “bad” enough…..
I think Katie Hill is also there too. So that’s four.
re: #305 Archangelus
“We honor veterans in the rain…”
Whoa, Cohen calling Trump out directly on … pretty much everything he’s done…
Oh snap. That one’s really going ot enrage the man baby.
Check out @crislopezg’s Tweet:
This just got pretty racist: Alex Jones is on the Joe Rogan show and just casually claimed (Rogan just enjoying himself) that the government runs Mexico like a lab because Native Americans “genetically” go into groupthink pretty fast and therefore are easier to “mind control” pic.twitter.com/e0W5rkUlel
— cristina lópez g. (@crislopezg) February 27, 2019
We’re going to get some angry tweets from you know who tonight and tomorrow I just know it.
re: #309 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Check out @crislopezg’s Tweet:
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Jones must be talking about the morons that take him seriously because you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe Sandy Hook was staged.
Rashida Talib calls out Mark Meadows’ stunt this morning where he used a woman of color as a prop as a “racist act”.
Meadows blows a gasket.
The result: Talib gets to read the comment again.
Meadows might have a stroke right here.— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) February 27, 2019
re: #307 HappyWarrior
I think Katie Hill is also there too. So that’s four.
Hill is the Vice-Chair. They also have Harley Rounda who was responsible for removing Putin’s man in the House, Dana Rohrabacher
re: #304 HappyWarrior
I wonder if Fox is so eager to cover up for Trump is because some of their own air “talent” like Hannity is criminally involved with Trump likely.
The most fascinating Fox header is:
Tennessee man accused of dipping testicles in customer’s salsa
And no, I will NOT read the story!
re: #314 BeachDem
The most fascinating Fox header is:
Tennessee man accused of dipping testicles in customer’s salsaAnd no, I will NOT read the story!
Who among us…?
Jim Jordan, the SDNY prosecutors also determined that Cohen committed campaign finance felonies at the direction of Individual-1.
re: #313 KGxvi
Hill is the Vice-Chair. They also have Harley Rounda who was responsible for removing Putin’s man in the House, Dana Rohrabacher
Yep 5 people of various backgrounds. Good job Coach Pelosi for picking good talent for this committee. :).
re: #314 BeachDem
The most fascinating Fox header is:
Tennessee man accused of dipping testicles in customer’s salsaAnd no, I will NOT read the story!
Yeah I don’t want to know.
re: #317 HappyWarrior
Interesting too, last year the GOP had a two seat majority on the committee. This year it’s six seats for the Dems. A nice reminder of how big the swing was in the House.
Scorecard after 4 hours:
-Democrats: elicited information from the witness implicating the president in a crime and suggesting he had foreknowledge of the Wikileaks dump and a Russian plot to provide Trump campaign with dirt on Clinton
-Republicans: proved Cohen may write a book— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) February 27, 2019
re: #319 KGxvi
Interesting too, last year the GOP had a two seat majority on the committee. This year it’s six seats for the Dems. A nice reminder of how big the swing was in the House.
That’s something I should point out to those who act like it wasn’t that big of a swing.
re: #313 KGxvi
Hill is the Vice-Chair. They also have Harley Rounda who was responsible for removing Putin’s man in the House, Dana Rohrabacher
Harley Rouda—a Columbus, OH guy I knew when he was in high school. (He was in high school—I was a middle-aged woman who “chaperoned” some of his friends’ high school parties—they all lived through them, so there’s that.)
Elijah Cummings is my favorite person today. This is straight from the heart……
Here’s Mark Meadows, who just sidetracked the entire House Oversight Committee to assure him he’s not racist, saying that “2012 is the time we are going to send Mr. Obama home to Kenya or wherever it is” pic.twitter.com/90L1xnWf6v
— Steve Morris (@stevemorris__) February 27, 2019
re: #325 Dave In Austin
Same here. He is good. We need more people like him.
re: #325 Dave In Austin
Elijah Cummings is my favorite person today. This is straight from the heart……
As I said this morning, he’s one of Pelosi’s best lieutenants. He’s a damned good investigator and legislator. Great guy.
Elijah Cummings really does a good pissed of rant at the repugs.
That really is why I’m against term limits btw. You don’t get the best people you can have in Congress if someone just leaves. Nothing wrong with voluntarily stepping down or someone like AOC or Presley winning primaries against incumbents either but I don’t like the idea of a law that says you must step down from Congress after a certain amount of terms.
Elijah Cummings is 100000% pure awesomeness.
Period.
Teehee
Thoughts and Prayers Matt Gaetz!https://t.co/Iz83Clm94R
— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) February 27, 2019
Thank you Mr. Cummings.
Come on now, indeed.
Did you hear that Jim Jordan you grandstanding punk?
re: #332 HappyWarrior
That really is why I’m against term limits btw. You don’t get the best people you can have in Congress if someone just leaves. Nothing wrong with voluntarily stepping down or someone like AOC or Presley winning primaries against incumbents either but I don’t like the idea of a law that says you must step down from Congress after a certain amount of terms.
Executive term limits make sense, especially in the modern system, a president or governor can become way too powerful. But in the legislative branch, you need that institutional knowledge and experience.
In California, the legislature has been severely weakened by term limits, even with the recent changes they’ve made.
re: #332 HappyWarrior
100000% agree
In college we had a lobbyist speak to our class and one of them asked about term limits.
The answer:
As a lobbyist I love term limits. Every few years you get someone new, they don’t know what they are doing. There isn’t anyone there with institutional knowledge except us. Thus it makes us more powerful.
Elijah Cummings turned into an Old Testament prophet with that one.
re: #304 HappyWarrior
I wonder if Fox is so eager to cover up for Trump is because some of their own air “talent” like Hannity is criminally involved with Trump likely.
Remember Hannity was one of Cohen’s other clients.
Uncomfortable…oops!
re: #337 KGxvi
Executive term limits make sense, especially in the modern system, a president or governor can become way too powerful. But in the legislative branch, you need that institutional knowledge and experience.
In California, the legislature has been severely weakened by term limits, even with the recent changes they’ve made.
Question. Would it work well with an approach like we have with the Senate? Only 1/3 of the Senate is up for election every other year, for a term length of 6 years. If we instituted term limits in the Senate, I feel like it would mitigate the issue of institutional knowledge, as Senators who are about to reach their limit would have time to pass on their knowledge to the new class that was elected just before them.
re: #324 HappyWarrior
They’re not very effective at this are they?
Eh - they’re as effective as they need to be: which in this case is providing enough angry soundbites for Fox and the rest of the RW media to cobble up into the usual deceptive narrative of “Cohen is a liar, Trump is God” that they think their numskull viewer-base wants to hear.
This might be flying under the radar screen, but this may be a key bit of questioning here…
The moment when @AOC had Michael Cohen explain under oath the method used by @realDonaldTrump to commit massive property tax fraud in Florida and New York #CohenHearing #CohenTestimony pic.twitter.com/OSRpeXhLM0
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) February 27, 2019
You know, I wish Rashida Talib would have answered Meadows by saying: I am not saying you are a racist Mr. Meadows. But, what you did today is a play to racists.
re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Question. Would it work well with an approach like we have with the Senate? Only 1/3 of the Senate is up for election every other year, for a term length of 6 years. If we instituted term limits in the Senate, I feel like it would mitigate the issue of institutional knowledge, as Senators who are about to reach their limit would have time to pass on their knowledge to the new class that was elected just before them.
Depends on what the term limits are, I suppose. If you say three terms, that means there’s 18 years someone could serve. But I’m still skeptical.
In California all 80 members of the Assembly are up every two years. Half the Senate (20 each cycle) are up every two years. The rule now is that you get a total of 12 years between the two chambers.
Besides, I doubt Congress would vote for a term limits amendment.
re: #337 KGxvi
Executive term limits make sense, especially in the modern system, a president or governor can become way too powerful. But in the legislative branch, you need that institutional knowledge and experience.
In California, the legislature has been severely weakened by term limits, even with the recent changes they’ve made.
Agreed. I’m okay with it for executives.
re: #344 ObserverArt
You know, I wish Rashida Talib would have answered Meadows by saying: I am not saying you are a racist Mr. Meadows. But, what you did today is a play to racists.
“Okay, so you’re not a racist, you just play one in committee hearings.”
re: #343 gwangung
The moment when @AOC had Michael Cohen explain under oath the method used by @realDonaldTrump to commit massive property tax fraud in Florida and New York #CohenHearing #CohenTestimony pic.twitter.com
And I can already hear the GOP cries of THOSE ARE JUST PROCESS CRIMES!! all the way over here in Europe.
re: #344 ObserverArt
You know, I wish Rashida Talib would have answered Meadows by saying: I am not saying you are a racist Mr. Meadows. But, what you did today is a play to racists.
Gillam really gave us a great answer to the “I’m not a racist” gambit.
re: #345 KGxvi
Depends on what the term limits are, I suppose. If you say three terms, that means there’s 18 years someone could serve. But I’m still skeptical.
In California all 80 members of the Assembly are up every two years. Half the Senate (20 each cycle) are up every two years. The rule now is that you get a total of 12 years between the two chambers.
Besides, I doubt Congress would vote for a term limits amendment.
Oh, hell, they’ll never vote for it. I hold no illusions in that regard. I’m just trying to see if implementing such a policy would even be practical, given the downsides.
re: #323 BeachDem
Harley Rouda—a Columbus, OH guy I knew when he was in high school. (He was in high school—I was a middle-aged woman who “chaperoned” some of his friends’ high school parties—they all lived through them, so there’s that.)
Big Columbus real estate guy at one time wasn’t he and or his family?
re: #349 KGxvi
Gillam really gave us a great answer to the “I’m not a racist” gambit.
He does. Wonder if he’ll consider running against Rubio (R-Useless) in 2022.
re: #343 gwangung
This might be flying under the radar screen, but this may be a key bit of questioning here…
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That girl is smart. I like AOC a lot.
re: #353 MsJ
That girl is smart. I like AOC a lot.
Any bartender who has dual majored in international relations and economics is. She may not have trial experience but she’s got a lot of street smarts and that’s really refreshing.
re: #325 Dave In Austin
Elijah Cummings is my favorite person today. This is straight from the heart……
And Cohen tears were also from the heart. Broken as it is. He wasn’t faking that.
I hate to make something like that a thing, but to me it showed Cohen wasn’t lying today and I hope that resonates with a lot of people.
Of course, there will be claims of onions, etc.
re: #353 MsJ
Same here. She is very smart and I think she will go far.
re: #312 Archangelus
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I propose that from this day forward, Congressman Meadows be known as “Apoplectic Racist Mark Meadows.”
re: #352 HappyWarrior
He does. Wonder if he’ll consider running against Rubio (R-Useless) in 2022.
That’s a long way away in political terms. I’m curious what, if anything, he chooses to do next in politics.
I’ve had Berners ask how people can like AOC and dislike Bernie. I give you Alexandria’s Exhibit A.
re: #357 A Three Hour Tour
I propose that from this day forward, Congressman Meadows be known as “Apoplectic Racist Mark Meadows.”
That’s a mouthful… can we just go with “that fucking guy”?
re: #358 KGxvi
That’s a long way away in political terms. I’m curious what, if anything, he chooses to do next in politics.
Very much so. And 2022 will probably be a Republican year.
re: #355 ObserverArt
And Cohen tears were also from the heart. Broken as it is. He wasn’t faking that.
I hate to make something like that a thing, but to me it showed Cohen wasn’t lying today and I hope that resonates with a lot of people.
Of course, there will be claims of onions, etc.
It was quite sad. He made a ton of money and lost a lot. Greed, arrogance, who knows. But it was very sad to watch. Especially knowing how all the others are.
I hope all of them go down this road to prison.
re: #360 KGxvi
That’s a mouthful… can we just go with “that fucking guy”?
Meadows is that fucking guy, Jordan is this fucking guy, and the others are Oh that prick.
re: #351 ObserverArt
Big Columbus real estate guy at one time wasn’t he and or his family?
His dad—this Harley is Jr.
A lot of Cohen’s testimony is self serving. No doubt but I think he’s credible because he’s never going to have the life he had before this unraveled. No more powerful friends. He’ll have jail on his record. He won’t be able to practice law. Oh? He might get a book but it’s not going to make that much money. I have no desire to read anything by Cohen. I’ll hear about the juicy parts and that’s all I ‘ll need to know.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
I’ve had Berners ask how people can like AOC and dislike Bernie..
A) More pragmatic
B) More flexible in strategy and tactics
C) Can both grandstand and investigate substantively
D) Can work with people not as progressive with her
E) Has an outlook rooted in the 21st Century, not the 1960s
You can go on, but…
re: #366 gwangung
A) More pragmatic
B) More flexible in strategy and tactics
C) Can both grandstand and investigate substantively
D) Can work with people not as progressive with her
E) Has an outlook rooted in the 21st Century, not the 1960sYou can go on, but…
You could do a powerpoint slideshow on it lol but I think today alone is a great example of it. Alexandria is a calm, composed person who is very organized. She’s politically astute beyond her years. She’s still learning the ropes obviously but I’m very impressed by her and the other freshmen and I give props to Pelosi too because she thought they would be great fits for this committee. Having an eye for talent is as good as being about to whip up votes. Pelosi is great at both.
re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg
“Okay, so you’re not a racist, you just play one in committee hearings.”
I borrowed from this recent burn session.
re: #367 HappyWarrior
This is what gives me hope that America can snap back from DT.
OT but I just saw a good point made about minimum wage I never thought. You know how wingnuts love crowing that minimum wage jobs are only for high school kids? Well consider that grocery stores and fast food places still are running and in fact probably have peaker business during the school day than outside of it.
re: #368 ObserverArt
I borrowed from this recent burn session.
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The same rule applies to Trump as I know Andrew would agree.
I mean, fucking seriously, we’re supposed to pretend that Lynne Patton was behind @MarkMeadows because she wanted to watch? Fuck that noise. It was meant to be a racism innoculation and it didn’t work.
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) February 27, 2019
re: #369 PhillyPretzel
This is what gives me hope that America can snap back from DT.
Yeah it’s not just her or even the other four freshmen on this committee. A lot of our newbs are impressive men and women who come from diverse backgrounds. Thank you to them for first for running and thanks to their constituents for voting for them.
re: #364 BeachDem
His dad—this Harley is Jr.
Yeah, I know that. I thought he had a realtor’s license and worked for his father for a bit too.
I did find one thing about him. He too has his JD from Capital University!
re: #375 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
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That rabbit is Ned Ryerson and we all are Phil.
re: #367 HappyWarrior
You could do a powerpoint slideshow on it lol but I think today alone is a great example of it. Alexandria is a calm, composed person who is very organized. She’s politically astute beyond her years. She’s still learning the ropes obviously but I’m very impressed by her and the other freshmen and I give props to Pelosi too because she thought they would be great fits for this committee. Having an eye for talent is as good as being about to whip up votes. Pelosi is great at both.
I hope she asks for Bernie to show his tax forms.
Heheheheeee…
re: #374 ObserverArt
Yeah, I know that. I thought he had a realtor’s license and worked for his father for a bit too.
I did find one thing about him. He too has his JD from Capital University!
Yeah I discovered that after you both explained to me about CU actually having a good law school. So Jordan is just a jackass.
re: #377 ObserverArt
I hope she asks for Bernie to show his tax forms.
Heheheheeee…
It’s pretty interesting that she hasn’t endorsed him yet IMO. I really hope she doesn’t. Pressing Trump on this issue and ignoring Bernie’s would be a bad look IMO.
re: #374 ObserverArt
Yeah, I know that. I thought he had a realtor’s license and worked for his father for a bit too.
I did find one thing about him. He too has his JD from Capital University!
He started as a lawyer at Porter Wright, then worked for the real estate company, but I think as a lawyer, not an agent.
Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
I’ve had Berners ask how people can like AOC and dislike Bernie. I give you Alexandria’s Exhibit A.
I don’t think he would be nearly as effective a questioner as she has been today.
“…home to Kenya or wherever….” #MeadowsIsARacist https://t.co/zd3Ar0GzAY
— Spidercanyon Reboot 🏳️🌈🇲🇽🇨🇦 (@CanyonReboot) February 27, 2019
re: #371 HappyWarrior
The same rule applies to Trump as I know Andrew would agree.
Oh for sure.
As KGxvi pointed out, Andrew Gillum gave the world a great phrase that I think will be used and remembered for a long long time.
Hell, I was ready to drive to Florida to vote for him.
re: #382 jaunte
I don’t think he would be nearly as effective a questioner as she has been today.
It’s how she conducts herself versus how he does. She’s brilliant.
re: #384 ObserverArt
Oh for sure.
As KGxvi pointed out, Andrew Gillum gave the world a great phrase that I think will be used and remembered for a long long time.
Hell, I was ready to drive to Florida to vote for him.
I think my aunt and uncle did. Not sure if their voting registered residence is FL or NC. Great guy for sure.
re: #382 jaunte
I don’t think he would be nearly as effective a questioner as she has been today.
He’d have spent his entire time grandstanding and probably would have only got one or two questions in.
re: #380 BeachDem
He started as a lawyer at Porter Wright, then worked for the real estate company, but I think as a lawyer, not an agent.
Started out with the big gun law firm. I need to follow him a bit. We could use him back here in Ohio, maybe to live a couple years and run as a Senator.
re: #388 KGxvi
He’d have spent his entire time grandstanding and probably would have only got one or two questions in.
Exactly.
re: #385 HappyWarrior
It’s how she conducts herself versus how he does. She’s brilliant.
She’s made a few mistakes, but she’s so far ahead of most it’s really phenomenal.
re: #391 jaunte
She’s made a few mistakes, but she’s so far ahead of most it’s really phenomenal.
Mistakes are going to happen. But she learns.
re: #389 ObserverArt
Started out with the big gun law firm. I need to follow him a bit. We could use him back here in Ohio, maybe to live a couple years and run as a Senator.
Probably a hard sell to get him to give up Laguna Beach for Columbus, but stranger things have happened.
re: #393 BeachDem
Probably a hard sell to get him to give up Laguna Beach for Columbus, but stranger things have happened.
You are no fun.
re: #393 BeachDem
Probably a hard sell to get him to give up Laguna Beach for Columbus, but stranger things have happened.
Urban Meyer and LeBron gave up Florida for Ohio winters. It can happen. Lol.
re: #394 ObserverArt
You are no fun.
Hey! I’m loads of fun! But I only moved to south by dog carolina and it would be a hard sell to get me back to Ohio winters. (Plus, I doubt there’s anyone there who would want me to run for office.)
re: #388 KGxvi
He’d have spent his entire time grandstanding and probably would have only got one or two questions in.
I can see it now:
“Why are we wasting all this time and energy on this one particular millionaire when there are many more millionaires and billionaires out there guilty of more egregious crimes? Why are we wasting so much time investigating Russian collusion when we’re not at war with Russsia? Why are we worrying about the concerns of women and minorities when we’ve lost the white working class in the heartland? Only by trusting in me will we find the solution to our problems.”
re: #395 Myron Falwell
Urban Meyer and LeBron gave up Florida for Ohio winters. It can happen. Lol.
And it appears Urban is staying.
For now anyway.
Drop the Mic!! #ElijahCummings wraps it up. We are better than this. #Trump has sullied everything and it’s time for it to end. #CohenHearing How do @RepMarkMeadows @Jim_Jordan look in the mirror? This president is okay with them?
— Mike Connor (@michaelhconnor) February 27, 2019
re: #397 A Three Hour Tour
So dead on, a bird landed on it.
This is STUNNING
U.S. drops demand for full accounting of N. Korea nuclear program ahead of talks https://t.co/di54YIzgOq via @CKUBENBC AND @CAROLELEE— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) February 27, 2019
This is only stunning if you haven’t seen Trump negotiating before.
re: #399 Patricia Kayden
The GOP has made it clear they took the FlavorAid together. They would defend him even if he was personally indicted by multiple venues.
Reporter: “Do you believe that the President committed a crime while in office?”
House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings: “It appears that he did” https://t.co/nMM0eWaT04 pic.twitter.com/Dp5TP5f3Ns— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) February 27, 2019
Damn. Ari Melber is talking to Donny Deutsch about Michael Cohen and just made a great point that I know I didn’t think about.
That would be Trump calling Cohen a rat was definitely threatening. And that is why Rep. Cummings brought it up. That can cause big problems in prison for Cohen.
That is also a mob threat, not just inner city Baltimore and Mr. Cummings knows that.
Kim Jong Un can see President Needy Thirsty Desperate to Make a Deal coming from light years away.
re: #401 jaunte
Trump’s basic negotiation plan in the past has been:
1. over promise
2. get as much money from the other side as possible
3. under deliver
4. threaten to sue
5. get sued
6. file for bankruptcy, wherein all negotiations are handled by a bankruptcy trustee rather than himself
How does Elijah Cummings keep himself from backhanding Jordan?
re: #407 Sionainn, Warrior Mother
He has experience with the man. He knows how to handle people.
re: #407 Sionainn, Warrior Mother
How does Elijah Cummings keep himself from backhanding Jordan?
He’s got tons more self-restraint than I would have had. I would have decked him about 15 seconds into his first tirade of the morning.
re: #407 Sionainn, Warrior Mother
How does Elijah Cummings keep himself from backhanding Jordan?
He just needs to open an investigation into the allegations of sexual abuse and assault by Jim while at Ohio State’s wrestling program.
That will shut him up.
re: #401 jaunte
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This is only stunning if you haven’t seen Trump negotiating before.
One can still be stunned that something you thought might happen happened, because it’s such preposterously bad Presidenting. It reminds me of John Oliver’s bit from the 2016 campaign, where he said, ‘If you look above you, way up there, up above the clouds, where you can barely see - THAT’S rock bottom.’
For all the indignation from the Republicans on today’s panel (I won’t call it righteous indignation, because there was nothing righteous about it) here’s a pretty good rundown on their cast of slimy characters:
A veritable rogue’s gallery of morons.
I think I would be crushed if I were lectured by Elijah Cummings.
re: #407 Sionainn, Warrior Mother
How does Elijah Cummings keep himself from backhanding Jordan?
LOL. I was kind of ticked off that Rep Cummings defended Rep Meadows against a (completely proper) claim that using a Black woman as a prop is racist. But I assume he was just keeping the peace.
Beto O’Rourke is not running for the U.S. Senate in 2020, a source says.
Will he run for president?
O’Rourke told the @dallasnews: “Amy and I have made a decision about how we can best serve our country. We are excited to share it with everyone soon.” https://t.co/2jUQyJXV8H— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) February 27, 2019
re: #416 MsJ
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President Beto.
President O’Rourke.
Oh, sorry, just getting in the practice ahead of schedule…
re: #401 jaunte
Everyone paying attention knew this was going to happen. To soothe his ego, he’s going to weaken our position in the region, and force South Korea to look for the stronger regional power, China, who will force then to make their own concessions.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) February 27, 2019
Foodie discussion on Stonekettle. Started out about grits, then went on to haggis, lutefisk, Surströmming and balut.
It completely degenerated into this:
And alpha spouts on burgers.
You don’t get a vote. Sit down. https://t.co/Kh01H9wkvG— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) February 27, 2019
re: #420 HappyWarrior
I’d say he’s running.
I could vote for him.
If he runs with Kamala HELL YES! Count me in!
re: #354 HappyWarrior
Any bartender who has dual majored in international relations and economics is. She may not have trial experience but she’s got a lot of street smarts and that’s really refreshing.
Just a reminder: Guinan (ST: TNG) was a bartender too.
Bartenders tend to know more shit then they let on.
re: #424 TedStriker
Considering they have to talk to everyone about almost everything, yes I agree they have to have a good deal of grey matter.
re: #424 TedStriker
Just a reminder: Guinan (ST: TNG) was a bartender too.
Bartenders tend to know more shit then they let on.
But for Guinan, bartender was just next on her list.
re: #423 MsJ
I could vote for him.
If he runs with Kamala HELL YES! Count me in!
Yeah I think they’d be a great team.
re: #424 TedStriker
Just a reminder: Guinan (ST: TNG) was a bartender too.
Bartenders tend to know more shit then they let on.
Yeahbut, wasn’t that Whoppi? There’s no one like Whoppi. No one.
Check out @jcfreeborn’s Tweet:
— Argle-Bargler (@jcfreeborn) February 27, 2019
re: #422 ckkatz
Foodie discussion on Stonekettle. Started out about grits, then went on to haggis, lutefisk, Surströmming and balut.
It completely degenerated into this:
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Yeah, but he started out being wrong, by bashing kale. Without kale, there’s no Portuguese Kale, Potato, and Sausage Soup.
re: #423 MsJ
I could vote for him.
If he runs with Kamala HELL YES! Count me in!
Any Democrat over Trump, even if its, dog forbid, Bernie.
re: #431 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Any Democrat over Trump, even if its, dog forbid, Bernie.
Gah. I don’t know if I could bite that bullet. Just keeping it 💯.
re: #423 MsJ
I could vote for him.
If he runs with Kamala HELL YES! Count me in!
I could definitely go for 8 years of President Kamela/VP Beto then 8 years of President Beto/VP AOC. That’s what it’s going to take to clean this shit up.
re: #430 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, but he started out being wrong, by bashing kale. Without kale, there’s no Portuguese Kale, Potato, and Sausage Soup.
What kind of sausage, he asks suspiciously.
I have not tried that. But it sounds delicious and might even invite a reconsideration of kale. :)
Charlie Pierce has some words about the hearing:
The Republican Party Completely and Utterly Disgraced Itself at Michael Cohen’s Hearing
The questioning from these products of the conservative bubble world was so bad it made a career hoodlum look good.
Who was your favorite? Was it Paul Gosar of Arizona, the guy whose entire family made a commercial for his opponent the last time he ran? (Gosar struggled so long with the phrase, “pathological liar” that he gave Cohen to opportunity to ask,”Are you referring to me or to the president?”) Was it jacketless Clay Higgins of Louisiana, who once filmed a campaign spot at Auschwitz? (Cohen mentioned at one point that he’d consulted some documents that were stored in boxes. Higgins demanded that a warrant be served on the boxes only to be told that Robert Mueller already had examined the contents and returned the boxes to Cohen. Unbelievably, these boxes came up again a few minutes later.)
Was it Bob Gibbs of Ohio, who seemed to drift away to Oz in the middle of his sentences, or Carol Miller of West Virginia, who was simply appalled at being a part of this when the committee could be discussing “neo-natal abstinence syndrome,” a condition afflicting newborns due to their mother’s drug use in utero? A worthy topic, surely, but hardly the provenance of the House Oversight Committee. And everybody kept yielding time to the egregious ranking Republican member, Jim Jordan of Ohio, or to Jordan’s fellow Freedom Caucasian, Mark Meadows of North Carolina, and those two jamokes couldn’t get out of their own way.
re: #433 Teddy’s Person
I could definitely go for 8 years of President Kamela/VP Beto then 8 years of President Beto/VP AOC. That’s what it’s going to take to clean this shit up.
Why do you want to move AOC into a position where she would be totally ineffective?
I see AOC as the greatest Speaker of the House since Nancy Pelosi.
re: #434 ckkatz
What kind of sausage, he asks suspiciously.
I have not tried that. But it sounds delicious and might even invite a reconsideration of kale. :)
Linguica, though I have used Andouille in a pinch.
re: #434 ckkatz
What kind of sausage, he asks suspiciously.
I have not tried that. But it sounds delicious and might even invite a reconsideration of kale. :)
I used to make a potato soup that had bacon and kale in it.
It also had cream, noodle dumplings and cheddar cheese in it.
That is why I used to make it. It was very tasty but way too loaded with heavy items.
re: #437 Belafon
I see AOC as the greatest Speaker of the House since Nancy Pelosi.
I could get behind this.
re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg
I could get behind this.
I hope Nancy takes her under her wing and teaches her all the Speaker voodoo.
re: #435 BeachDem
Charlie Pierce has some words about the hearing:
The Republican Party Completely and Utterly Disgraced Itself at Michael Cohen’s Hearing
The questioning from these products of the conservative bubble world was so bad it made a career hoodlum look good.
Who was your favorite? Was it Paul Gosar of Arizona, the guy whose entire family made a commercial for his opponent the last time he ran? (Gosar struggled so long with the phrase, “pathological liar” that he gave Cohen to opportunity to ask,”Are you referring to me or to the president?”) Was it jacketless Clay Higgins of Louisiana, who once filmed a campaign spot at Auschwitz? (Cohen mentioned at one point that he’d consulted some documents that were stored in boxes. Higgins demanded that a warrant be served on the boxes only to be told that Robert Mueller already had examined the contents and returned the boxes to Cohen. Unbelievably, these boxes came up again a few minutes later.)
Was it Bob Gibbs of Ohio, who seemed to drift away to Oz in the middle of his sentences, or Carol Miller of West Virginia, who was simply appalled at being a part of this when the committee could be discussing “neo-natal abstinence syndrome,” a condition afflicting newborns due to their mother’s drug use in utero? A worthy topic, surely, but hardly the provenance of the House Oversight Committee. And everybody kept yielding time to the egregious ranking Republican member, Jim Jordan of Ohio, or to Jordan’s fellow Freedom Caucasian, Mark Meadows of North Carolina, and those two jamokes couldn’t get out of their own way.
Oh that is Charlie at his best. Love the bold parts.
re: #436 Belafon
Why do you want to move AOC into a position where she would be totally ineffective?
My favorite bit of historical trivia is that the Vice President is not allowed to participate in Senate debates because when John Adams was elected as the first VPOTUS the first Senate didn’t want to have to listen to him drone on.
re: #436 Belafon
Why do you want to move AOC into a position where she would be totally ineffective?
Setting her up to be president. TBH, she strikes me as someone who’d be effective where ever she wanted to go.
But I agree with others that she’d make a great speaker.
When somebody tells you it is only Wednesday pic.twitter.com/SMbMAewzrK
— Molly Knight (@molly_knight) February 27, 2019
re: #444 Teddy’s Person
Setting her up to be president. TBH, she strikes me as someone who’d be effective where ever she wanted to go.
But I agree with others that she’d make a great speaker.
VP’s so rarely become president though. She’d be better off running for the Senate when Schumer retires after another term or two.
Republican Kentucky Rep. James Comer: You called Trump “a cheat. What would you call yourself?” Cohen: “A fool.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 27, 2019
Kale, potato, and sausage soup is easy, yummy, and great for chilly nights.
Cut your linguica into disks and brown in olive oil, put ‘em in the pot. Fry some chopped onions, toss in too much garlic. Put THAT in the pot. A can of diced tomatoes. Two bunches of trimmed, chopped kale. A quart of chicken stock. 3 good sized diced boiling potatoes. A can of white beans. A couple bay leaves. Some thyme. Salt and pepper to taste. Cook 45 minutes.
I signed on because I was in the middle of ladling out a bowl of ribolita and sensed someone was being skeptical of kale.
re: #449 The Ghost of Quesos Past
*&^% pop-up blocked the recipe. I am sure I can find one at Cooks Illustrated.
Fox News can’t handle today and I AM HERE FOR IT. https://t.co/MhmBCUymIJ
— Elizabeth C. McLaughlin (@ECMcLaughlin) February 27, 2019
re: #450 plansbandc
No kale. No.
Mrs. Fish sometimes makes kale chips to snack on. Honestly, they are horrifying. I tried, I really did, but I can’t get on the kale hype train.
Stone’s denial came despite a gag order in his case issued by Judge Amy Berman Jackson last week, who barred him from speaking “publicly about the investigation or the case or any of the participants in the investigation or the case. Period.” https://t.co/ULGofacZcS
— VICE News (@vicenews) February 27, 2019
re: #453 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mrs. Fish sometimes makes kale chips to snack on. Honestly, they are horrifying. I tried, I really did, but I can’t get on the kale hype train.
Same. Nothing against the people who like it though.
re: #454 Backwoods_Sleuth
Guess who’s going to jail…
This was a good use of the time allotted. @RepAOC not only asked Cohen questions that revealed newsworthy information which merit further investigation, but ones pertinent to her district. If you missed it live, as I did, this is her questioning in full. pic.twitter.com/fUxgq4e5BN
— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) February 27, 2019
re: #446 KGxvi
VP’s so rarely become president though. She’d be better off running for the Senate when Schumer retires after another term or two.
It’s happened 4 times in my lifetime. Also failed 4 times. Nixon appears in both categories.
I like kale. Not my favorite green but it’s good.
Trump Touts Cheap Price For Brooklyn Bridge In Exchange For US Troop Withdrawl From South Korea
says “you have to give me a nobel peace prize now cause i’m, like, a genius, and this is the greatest thing any president has ever done in history this i can tell you”
re: #451 PhillyPretzel
*&^% pop-up blocked the recipe. I am sure I can find one at Cooks Illustrated.
I trust Serious Eats as a source of recipes, here’s their version.
Funny thing, I can’t find recipe I just did, which was carrot, fennel, onions and garlic.
Looking at the variations that turn up in when searching, it’s clearly a dish where everybody’s got their nonna’s version.
re: #460 HappyWarrior
I like kale. Not my favorite green but it’s good.
it’s not bad if it doesn’t fight back too much
re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s happened 4 times in my lifetime. Also failed 4 times. Nixon appears in both categories.
It’s happened to two of the people in my lifetime, though I was born in 69, so Nixon’s failed attempt happened earlier.
re: #463 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
it’s not bad if it doesn’t fight back too much
The problem with any food is when it gets hyped as a SuperFood, which then leads to people using it stupidly. Curly kale raw in a salad? Or worse, AS a salad? WTF? But if you steam it in just the water that sticks to it when you wash it, and hit it with butter and hot sauce, or put it in the soup I just described, it’s yummy!
re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth
And that’s why I think she would make a great speaker: She knows when to be at the front, and when to get out of the way.
Have you taken a trip to the Hanoi Hilton yet? https://t.co/hR7LgV6RJt
— Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain) February 27, 2019
re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s happened 4 times in my lifetime. Also failed 4 times. Nixon appears in both categories.
Two of those were by death and the other by a resignation tho. I think right now we just need to let Alexandria build up experience and decide what she thinks her best fit is.
re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s happened 4 times in my lifetime. Also failed 4 times. Nixon appears in both categories.
It’s just hard to do. One, we rarely have three straight terms of one party in the White House (Reagan and Bush 41 are the only example since FDR/Truman). Two, it’s hard to separate yourself from the incumbent - so rather than running for your first term, you’re running for someone else’s third term. Three, you don’t have any recent accomplishments to run on because of the structure of our government.
re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth
As I wrote either upstream or in a previous thread AOC was great in getting those answers to her questions. I said before I was impressed with the fact they were written down and she read them clearly. And the Thank You after each question was answered was very good.
re: #466 Belafon
And that’s why I think she would make a great speaker: She knows when to be at the front, and when to get out of the way.
I think the GOP are right to be scared shitless of her. She’s not anything like the vapid Millennial Barbie they’d like to paint her as.
re: #453 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mrs. Fish sometimes makes kale chips to snack on. Honestly, they are horrifying. I tried, I really did, but I can’t get on the kale hype train.
You and me both. I’ve tried like hell to cook it somehow where it’s good. It’s not. I think I put it in soup once and boiled it for a few hours and it was tolerable. Kale just ain’t good.
re: #464 Belafon
It’s happened to two of the people in my lifetime, though I was born in 69, so Nixon’s failed attempt happened earlier.
In my lifetime, Bush, Ford, Nixon, and LBJ. And Gore should have. Much better chance of becoming President as a VP than any other position.
re: #468 HappyWarrior
Two of those were by death and the other by a resignation tho. I think right now we just need to let Alexandria build up experience and decide what she thinks her best fit is.
I think she’d be smart to consider the governor’s mansion before a presidential run, if she goes that way. We’re likely looking at a minimum of four terms since we’ve seen a governor win and I have a feeling we will be looking for something like that again in a cycle or three.
re: #474 NO SMOCKING GUN!
In my lifetime, Bush, Ford, Nixon, and LBJ. And Gore should have. Much better chance of becoming President as a VP than any other position.
I think Gore would have been a solid President. It’s an interesting what if about the state of the party had he been President.
re: #465 Blind Frog Belly White
The problem with any food is when it gets hyped as a SuperFood, which then leads to people using it stupidly. Curly kale raw in a salad? Or worse, AS a salad? WTF? But if you steam it in just the water that sticks to it when you wash it, and hit it with butter and hot sauce, or put it in the soup I just described, it’s yummy!
typical of americans to believe they can solve everything with just a pill or a magic ingredient, and without personal effort
the only time i ever improved anything i did by just buying something was improving my tone on the saxophone by buying harder reeds
re: #405 jaunte
Kim Jong Un can see President Needy Thirsty Desperate to Make a Deal coming from light years away.
It’s ok. America never keeps its promises to anyone.
re: #475 KGxvi
I think she’d be smart to consider the governor’s mansion before a presidential run, if she goes that way. We’re likely looking at a minimum of four terms since we’ve seen a governor win and I have a feeling we will be looking for something like that again in a cycle or three.
If that’s her goal. She should look at issues important to upstaters.
re: #476 HappyWarrior
I think Gore would have been a solid President. It’s an interesting what if about the state of the party had he been President.
Not to mention we would’ve gotten a head start on addressing climate change.
re: #474 NO SMOCKING GUN!
In my lifetime, Bush, Ford, Nixon, and LBJ. And Gore should have. Much better chance of becoming President as a VP than any other position.
Ford and LBJ were anomalies, though. Carter, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush were all governors. JFK and Obama were Senators. The next president will likely be a Senator. Only GHW Bush and Nixon won the presidency as former VP’s and under two very different circumstances.
re: #474 NO SMOCKING GUN!
In my lifetime, Bush, Ford, Nixon, and LBJ. And Gore should have. Much better chance of becoming President as a VP than any other position.
Governor.
re: #453 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mrs. Fish sometimes makes kale chips to snack on. Honestly, they are horrifying. I tried, I really did, but I can’t get on the kale hype train.
Did she use the oven, or a food dehydrator like this? I use the dehydrator to make mine and they turn out quite nicely, because they become crisp without getting burnt/blackened (all I do in terms of prep is coat them beforehand with a mixture of lemon juice, olive oil, and sea salt). This method works for collard greens as well, if anyone here is a fan of those :)
re: #476 HappyWarrior
I think Gore would have been a solid President. It’s an interesting what if about the state of the party had he been President.
It’s so hard to say because there’s the related question of whether 9/11 was truly inevitable by November 2000
re: #481 KGxvi
Ford and LBJ were anomalies, though. Carter, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush were all governors. JFK and Obama were Senators. The next president will likely be a Senator. Only GHW Bush and Nixon won the presidency as former VP’s and under two very different circumstances.
To b fair, LBJ won the Presidency in his own right in 1964. But, yeah. The whole “Third Term” thing seems like it’s part of America now, largely because a lot of low-information voters just think “Give the other guys a chance” without noting that “the other guys” are fullblown batshit crazy now.
re: #481 KGxvi
Ford and LBJ were anomalies, though. Carter, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush were all governors. JFK and Obama were Senators. The next president will likely be a Senator. Only GHW Bush and Nixon won the presidency as former VP’s and under two very different circumstances.
But as VP you may become President due to an unexpected vacancy, unlike any other office. And there are lot fewer VPs than governors or senators, so a higher % of them become President.
re: #485 KGxvi
It’s so hard to say because there’s the related question of whether 9/11 was truly inevitable by November 2000
Agreed.
Why is Noah fucking Rothman on my television screen? I hate that Motherfucker.
Riviera Beach, FL
DEVELOPING: Police Swarm VA Medical Center in Florida Amid Reports of Shooting - https://t.co/w41qOvMQmG pic.twitter.com/vgokj737RD
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 28, 2019
re: #482 Blind Frog Belly White
Governor.
There are 50 governors but only one VP. The VP of a two term President is almost automatically a frontrunner for his party’s nomination, if he runs.
You literally hired him to help run the party’s cash flows https://t.co/iRbH9weV4i
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) February 27, 2019
re: #487 NO SMOCKING GUN!
But as VP you may become President due to an unexpected vacancy, unlike any other office. And there are lot fewer VPs than governors or senators, so a higher % of them become President.
Percentage-wise, yes. But I think it’s the most difficult path to the office.
This headline isn’t true. Twitter didn’t take any action against Malkin. Nor is there any mention of Sharia Law in Twitter’s message. https://t.co/wKwqqoJ5fr
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 28, 2019
re: #454 Backwoods_Sleuth
Now we get to see how far Roger Stone’s rich white asshole privilege goes. This should get him sent directly to jail for contempt of court.
But after the Malheur occupiers got off scot-free, I don’t take this kind of thing for granted any more.
re: #495 The Vicious Babushka
Of course Malkin broke Shakira law. Is anyone surprised.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) February 28, 2019
Cohen: “[Trump] doesn’t give orders. He speaks in code. And I understand that code.”
I was once assigned to FBI Organized Crime Squad in Queens, NY. Can’t begin to number amount of Mob cooperators who described their abilities to interpret Mob Boss’s orders in exact same manner.— James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) February 27, 2019
re: #495 The Vicious Babushka
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Yeah that’s not what happened. You have no idea what Sharia Law actually is since you are stupid.
re: #450 plansbandc
No kale. No.
Got two tubs of kale growing in my grow tunnel. Wife puts it our colcannon and once succeeded in making very good kale chips.
So to recap: two (2) people of color had to spend ten (10) minutes comforting one (1) white guy after he was called out for doing something that was racist, after he was about to start crying for doing said racist thing.
Brought to you by America, 2019.— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) February 27, 2019
Sorry, typo: crying *after he was called out
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) February 27, 2019
re: #502 Decatur Deb
Got two tubs of kale growing in my grow tunnel. Wife puts it our colcannon and once succeeded in making very good kale chips.
homegrown kale can not be beaten
re: #492 NO SMOCKING GUN!
There are 50 governors but only one VP. The VP of a two term President is almost automatically a frontrunner for his party’s nomination, if he runs.
Depends on how you look at it. Of the 6 Governors or former Governors who were nominated, 4 of them won. The 8 times a VP or former VP who had not already been elected President was nominated, only 3 won. So the person elected President is more likely to be a former governor.
BUT, there are, as you say, WAY more Governors than VPs, so EACH Governor has a much smaller probability.
Evening Lizards,
Local NBC news in DFW just reported that Beto is not going to challenge il douche Cornyn but will run for the White House instead
re: #506 bd (Emergency!)
Evening Lizards,
Local NBC news in DFW just reported that Beto is not going to challenge il douche Cornyn but will run for the White House instead
That’s awesome news imo
“And joining me to talk about the summit in Hanoi, Tulsi Gabbard….” (MSNBC) click.
re: #495 The Vicious Babushka
I’m assuming the spin on it is that whatever Malkin was derping about that got her in trouble was related to Sharia law. Which is also a safe bet, because she derps on about Sharia law a LOT.
let’s check back in on virginia for a minut………………. https://t.co/ptiKABaEMT
— Steven Rich (@dataeditor) February 27, 2019
re: #507 HappyWarrior
That’s awesome news imo
Agreed Cornyn would almost impossible to beat in a Presidential election year.
Glad i saved my bumper stickers and signs, I can line through the Senate part. :)
re: #514 bd (Emergency!)
Agreed Cornyn would almost impossible to beat in a Presidential election year.
Glad i saved my bumber stickers and signs, I can line through the Senate part. :)
Yeah and Abbott just won too. He’s a little raw I concede but Beto does have experience running against a shameless liar.
Not sure whether the Cohen hearing speaks worse of DJT for employing such a man or the House Committee for making him a star witness.
— Brit Hume (@brithume) February 27, 2019
When prosecutors try a Mob Boss, they don’t get a lot of useful witnesses who are stellar citizens, pinnacles of honesty and trustworthiness. Why do you suppose that is, Brit?
re: #506 bd (Emergency!)
Evening Lizards,
Local NBC news in DFW just reported that Beto is not going to challenge il douche Cornyn but will run for the White House instead
This is the right thing. Cornyn is popular here and Beto does not need another defeat. To hell with Texas. Go bigger.
re: #517 BlueGrl21
This is the right thing. Cornyn is popular here and Beto does not need another defeat. To hell with Texas. Go bigger.
Right. I mean, NOBODY likes Ted Cruz, which is one big reason why he was so vulnerable.
today the sun shined for the first time in a while. so i spent the evening outside. rolling on my back and kicking the air. to show my appreciation. and my pizzazz
— Thoughts of Dog (@dog_feelings) February 28, 2019
For those wondering, Trump’s press conference is scheduled for 3:50 AM Eastern time.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 28, 2019
Normally he’d be on the can, Tweeting.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ky House votes to require all public schools to post “In God We Trust” in prominent place for students to look at every day. https://t.co/YYqZihg4N6 ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) February 28, 2019
re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth
Way to focus on important things KY…
re: #516 Blind Frog Belly White
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When prosecutors try a Mob Boss, they don’t get a lot of useful witnesses who are stellar citizens, pinnacles of honesty and trustworthiness. Why do you suppose that is, Brit?
You’re an idiot Brit. How do you think John Gotti was convicted?
re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth
homegrown kale can not be beaten
Can not be salvaged. Sorry but no. It’s use in human rations should be considered a war crime.
re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Trump has a lot of gall to mention someone not serving in Vietnam.
Another example of how he knows the idiots that buy his bullshit will buy it and forget he is Mr. Bone Spur Deferment.
The rest of America rolls its eyes and hopes for the day this will be over.
Steve Kornacki’s horserace pov really gets tiresome.
re: #523 Jack Burton
Way to focus on important things KY…
Hey, they gotta do something to distract the rubes from the fact that Trump’s tax “cuts” just soaked their asses and that His Royal Dumpiness is about to get sent to the can for life.
re: #512 HappyWarrior
O’Rourke-Duckworth would be good imo.
Honestly id rather see her stay in the Senate.
re: #525 HappyWarrior
Mueller got quite a few mob associates to sing from there they followed the money.
re: #526 William Lewis
Can not be salvaged. Sorry but no. It’s use in human rations should be considered a war crime.
Cannot do kale. Can….not. I respect those of you that have found your way into its world. Leave me behind, soldier.
re: #526 William Lewis
Can not be salvaged. Sorry but no. It’s use in human rations should be considered a war crime.
It could be deployed as a biological weapon, maybe.
Statement from @BetoORourke pic.twitter.com/or8AU1RuRi
— Julie Fine (@JulieFineNBC5) February 27, 2019
#Breaking: Sources: @BetoORourke won’t challenge @JohnCornyn for Senate, paving way for presidential bid https://t.co/Khc3Qsc2Ez
— Dallas Morning News (@dallasnews) February 27, 2019
re: #525 HappyWarrior
You’re an idiot Brit. How do you think John Gotti was convicted?
Defending yourself by saying all the people you hired to commit your crimes, and who are now testifying against your, are all criminals and liars is right up there with the guy who kills his parents and asks for mercy because he’s an orphan.
Kale with Pine Nuts and Shredded Parmesan
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re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth
homegrown kale can not be
beaten
Fixed that for you. ///
Kidding aside, to reduce bitterness in uncooked kale:
americastestkitchen.com
New Low for House Democrats:
Holding hearings with Michael Cohen while President @realDonaldTrump negotiates with North Korea about giving up their nuclear arsenal.
Democrats hatred of Trump is undercutting an important foreign policy effort and is way out of line.— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) February 27, 2019
Google “47 traitors,” Lindsey. That was much worse.
Ah… why bother?
You were one of them.
You still are.https://t.co/KPRcJkSahO https://t.co/QuFCDRSjvL— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) February 28, 2019
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hey Lindsey: He’s giving up everything and getting nothing in return. But you’d know all about that because of your “negotiations” with Trump’s little cheeto.
re: #539 BlueSpotinAL
Fixed that for you. ///
Kidding aside, to reduce bitterness in uncooked kale:
americastestkitchen.com
Or, you know, cook it.
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Did you ask Kim if he took picture of him useing a flame through on his goverment employes and crushing them with tanks .I am shure #FoxNews would love to see them . #TheResistance pic.twitter.com/AFdq71ewiT
— Rev. Clarke W. Aniol (@ClarkeAniol) February 28, 2019
re: #543 The Vicious Babushka
I wonder when he’s going to start using the royal we.
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So how about you just shut the fuck up? https://t.co/WycVL3fSQf— Pé Resists (@4everNeverTrump) February 27, 2019
I miss having a President that didn’t speak of himself in the third person.
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Trump and Kim hold second day of summit in Hanoi https://t.co/3qzIjXYMrQ Follow live #TrumpKimSummit updates here: https://t.co/INo1Xz19Ad by @jeffmason1 @SoyoungSays pic.twitter.com/ylDVg9Ersd
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) February 28, 2019
re: #546 jaunte
I miss having a President that didn’t speak of himself in the third person.
I miss having a president who’s not an absolute moron, isn’t a goddamn criminal and has an IQ over 75.
re: #548 MsJ
I miss having a president who’s not an absolute moron, isn’t a goddamn criminal and has an IQ over 75.
I miss having a President.
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Remember when a bunch of Republicans wrote letters to attempt to undermine Obama’s Iran nuclear negotiations? That was overstepping your authority. This is called oversight. If Trump can’t handle both, then he should resign. And you should as well.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) February 28, 2019
US politics in the Trump era is like when a long-running coal seam fire (GOP resentment) starts burning through an EPA superfund site (Trump’s criminal empire).
re: #545 bd (Emergency!)
Someone else beat me to it.
re: #547 The Vicious Babushka
Jong Un: And that’s when I push the journalists into a wood chipper.
Trump: You mean like this?
—-
Trump: And I have the biggest hands of any president you’ve ever met
Jong Un: Yeah, you’re the only one I’ve met, dumbass.
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yo Lindsay, what important foreign policy effort are you talking about?
Trump is quite capable of unilateral surrender of long-held US bargaining positions vs. North Korea all by himself. He’s a big boy, and doesn’t need anyone’s help to fuck that all up beyond repair.
re: #545 bd (Emergency!)
If you read through the replies, the real crime was giving Iran back their money.
re: #556 Belafon
If you read through the replies, the real crime was giving Iran back their money.
The Republican view of property rights is that only rich, white GOP donor-class plutocrats should have them.
It was only for a second or two but the resulting photo, carried in North Korean state media, is of Trump appearing to slightly stoop and bow and support his arm respectfully as he shakes hands with a more confident looking Kim Jong Un.
— James Pearson (@pearswick) February 28, 2019
re: #505 Blind Frog Belly White
Depends on how you look at it. Of the 6 Governors or former Governors who were nominated, 4 of them won. The 8 times a VP or former VP who had not already been elected President was nominated, only 3 won. So the person elected President is more likely to be a former governor.
BUT, there are, as you say, WAY more Governors than VPs, so EACH Governor has a much smaller probability.
Exactly my point. Most governors and Senators are never nominated by their party, but a high percentage of VPs are, and if you’re not nominated, you can’t win.
re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth
Pennsylvania tried to pass this more than once.
My proposal would be to take stick-um and stick a penny on the wall in every classroom.
There ya go.
re: #562 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Exactly my point. Most governors and Senators are never nominated by their party, but a high percentage of VPs are, and if you’re not nominated, you can’t win.
Right, but a governor once nominated is more likely to win.
re: #560 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
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This is the kind of thing to point out to Trump. This would make him angry.
One government office that use to be path to the presidency but isn’t anymore was General. No general has won since Ike, and our last 4 major party nominees had no military experience at all.
re: #542 Blind Frog Belly White
Or, you know, cook it.
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Wonder if the bitter “tasting” is genetic, like Brussels sprouts. We eat kale raw without problems in salads.
re: #566 NO SMOCKING GUN!
One government office that use to be path to the presidency but isn’t anymore was General. No general has won since Ike, and our last 4 major party nominees had no military experience at all.
Honestly, that’s kind of a good thing, in my opinion.
re: #561 ObserverArt
The Tweety Matthews Hard Ball show?
Or is Flailing Kornacki still sitting in?
The latter.
re: #567 Decatur Deb
Wonder if the bitter “tasting” is genetic, like Brussels sprouts. We eat kale raw without problems in salads.
What really makes kale lose the bitterness and taste sweet instead is a hard frost. My garden kale was at its best in early winter (sad when the conditions that make a vegetable most palatable are also the ones that make it least likely to grow).
re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Only Democrats could hate someone so much that they would try to disrupt nuclear peace talks with testimony from a convicted felon.
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) February 27, 2019
re: #568 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Honestly, that’s kind of a good thing, in my opinion.
Yes and no. I’d like to see a president with experience as an enlisted soldier or NCO.
re: #572 William Lewis
Yes and no. I’d like to see a president with experience as an enlisted soldier or NCO.
Notice I said “kind of”.
re: #568 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Honestly, that’s kind of a good thing, in my opinion.
The only reason I would like to see another veteran as president is so they could actually take on the MIC (which I currently earn a paycheck from).
re: #547 The Vicious Babushka
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She was so short that I couldn’t grab her by the pussy, so I had to do this…
re: #570 Interesting Times
What really makes kale lose the bitterness and taste sweet instead is a hard frost. My garden kale was at its best in early winter (sad when the conditions that make a vegetable most palatable are also the ones that make it least likely to grow).
What is this “hard frost”? Our language has no words for it.
Not sure whether the testimony of Sammy “The Bull” Gravano speaks worse of John Gotti for employing such a man or the FBI for making him a government witness. https://t.co/Y0sDiHu5uy
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 27, 2019
re: #572 William Lewis
Yes and no. I’d like to see a president with experience as an enlisted soldier or NCO.
Probably have to go back to Lincoln and the Blackhawk War for that.
re: #567 Decatur Deb
Wonder if the bitter “tasting” is genetic, like Brussels sprouts. We eat kale raw without problems in salads.
Mrs. FBW complains sometimes about some things tasting bitter, but the things she complains about are usually sour. Sour cherries, for example.
In the end, however, you can’t live in somebody else’s head, to know what they’re tasting, so who knows?
re: #578 Decatur Deb
Probably have to go back to Lincoln and the Blackhawk War for that.
Didn’t William McKinley serve as a Sergeant in the Civil War?
And, as a veteran myself, I’m not saying I would reject a veteran. I just don’t want it too high on their resume.
re: #576 Decatur Deb
What is this “hard frost”? Our language has no words for it.
It’s a thing that us northerners have multiple words for. One of which is “apple-killer”.
McKinley, IIRC started the ACW as a private though later was commissioned. According to the Wiki, he started as a private, saw combat, became a supply sergeant, got commissioned for bravery at Antietam and ended as a brevet Major.
re: #584 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
It’s a thing that us northerners have multiple words for. One of which is “apple-killer”.
In truth, we hope for 1-2 days below 32f, to get the “chill hours” needed to get the next pear crop.
re: #580 Jay C
Didn’t William McKinley serve as a Sergeant in the Civil War?
For which he enlisted after being kicked out of my Alma Mater for leading a cow up the steps of the Bentley Hall bell tower.
Apparently, you can lead a cow UP steps, but not DOWN. the method of removing it brings to mind this…..
re: #585 bd (Emergency!)
When did Hume become such an obvious hack?
As soon as the opportunity presented itself, I believe.
re: #587 Decatur Deb
In truth, we hope for 1-2 days below 32f, to get the “chill hours” needed to get the next pear crop.
I think apples have a similar cycle; not well versed enough in their growth to know for sure. What I do know is that a late last frost can kill off an entire crop.
re: #588 MsJ
Always?
He was a wingnut but never carried himself that way. He was like a George Will wingnut, too pompous to admit to the common wingnut cave man views that he secretly held.
re: #592 bd (Emergency!)
He was a wingnut but never carried himself that way. He was like a George Will wingnut, too pompous to admit to the common wingnut cave man views that he secretly held.
So… Always. 🤣
One of the most batshit crazy facebook pages I have seen: facebook.com A deeply paranoid nut that tries to explain everything in life by mathematics.
Time to get on the hamster bike. I’ve set up a trash computer to let me lurk LGF from there, but it’s awkward. I can usually lose a game of Civ4 during a session.
Trump mad, Trump smash! Check out @funder’s Tweet:
BREAKING: A GOP lobbyist just told me @realDonaldTrump is in “complete disarray” and that he was “blindsided” by Cohen’s opening statement. Trump feels “betrayed” & is “absolutely furious.” Says Trump even wanted to fly back to US, and also didn’t know Cohen could bring evidence.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) February 27, 2019
What I learned from House Republicans (HRs) today:
You must try to stop anything from happening that might make people realize you have a large, rotting albatross around your neck. When that fails, yell, a lot.
You must claim that lying to Congress to support a sitting Republican President makes you a LIAR and means you can’t tell the truth about anything, ever.
Pointing out to HRs that yes, you did lie to protect a sitting Republican President, and pled guilty to a felony and got sentenced to years in prison, means that you have no incentive to lie anymore on pain of a *longer* sentence, is irrelevant. They say you are still a LIAR and can’t tell the truth about anything, ever.
Telling HRs that that is just as stupid as shit and completely illogical makes them yell *really* loud. A lot. Because you can’t tell the truth, ever.
If Democratic Representatives begin asking relevant questions to the witness and getting germane answers to their enquiries, the correct response is to stick your fingers in your and start mumbling “La la la la la” so you can honestly tell the people who elected you that “I never heard him say that.”
Mention Hilary. And Benghazi.
What a pitiful pack of fuckwits and feebs.
re: #600 austin_blue
What I learned from House Republicans (HRs) today:
Cry when somebody calls you out for being the racist that you are.
re: #598 The Vicious Babushka
Uh well yeah but it’s Scott Dworkin.
I think we can believe the tweet to be true without it costing anything. More than anyone else, the described behavior sounds like Trump.
..
And I’ve enjoyed it enough.
re: #601 The Vicious Babushka
Cry when somebody calls you out for being the racist that you are.
Shit, VB, back in the Dixiecrat days, that was southern House Democrats.
Well, except for the not-crying part and puffing out their chests in pride.
moron
BREAKING: Trump says “no rush” on NKorea agreement as Kim pledges to “make every effort” for positive result in nuclear talks. https://t.co/vJLVa9NU1W
— The Associated Press (@AP) February 28, 2019
re: #605 Backwoods_Sleuth
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He’s getting a big fat nothingburder out of this summit, isn’t he?
He’s going to go ballistic, like a NORK ICBM.
re: #607 austin_blue
He’s getting a big fat nothingburder out of this summit, isn’t he?
He’s going to go ballistic, like a NORK ICBM.
Nothing? Oh, no, he’ll do better than nothing. He’ll take proud delivery of The Shaft. And then tell us what a brillant negotiator he was for getting such a great deal!
* Spelling intentional. See the archives at TheDailyWTF.
Tucker + Tracey = National Brocialism
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) February 28, 2019
re: #608 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Nothing? Oh, no, he’ll do better than nothing. He’ll take proud delivery of The Shaft. And then tell us what a brillant negotiator he was for getting such a great deal!
* Spelling intentional. See the archives at TheDailyWTF.
And only what, eight months ago, Trump had a bunch of fools thinking he had the nukes already eliminated and there was peace and that was that.
Get the excuses ready why that was not the case.
re: #610 ObserverArt
And only what, eight months ago, Trump had a bunch of fools thinking he had the nukes already eliminated and there was peace and that was that.
Get the excuses ready why that was not the case.
“Peace in our time.” Yeah, he’s not even as good of a negotiator as Neville Chamberlain. And we all know how history remembered THAT.
re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth
This is pretty fantastic, and by fantastic I mean pretty damning for the Trump family crime syndicate. Thanks for posting this, and thanks to all the lizards who suffer through this unbelievable bullshit everyday so those of us with a weaker constitution can follow along.
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