Friday Night Amazing Jam: Jacob Collier, “Here Comes the Sun” (Feat. Dodie)

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Here’s a Jacobean / dodic rendition of a Beatles classic, to bring in the Spring! It’s the second single from Djesse Vol. 2.

Video directed, filmed and edited by Jacob & dodie.

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1
Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:10:05pm

Wow. The first Djesse album didn’t grab me, tbh. But this is the shit. By which I mean something that is not shit.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:16:30pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:18:57pm
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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:20:25pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:20:40pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:20:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:23:16pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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Sad violins.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:24:54pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

You’re thinking of this sound.

The Price is Right Losing Horn - Gaming Sound Effect (HD)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:25:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:26:44pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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A Polka quartet of octogenarians.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:26:54pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

You’re thinking of this sound.

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Yes!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:27:18pm
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:27:31pm

From the previous thread:

re: #167 wrenchwench

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:28:27pm

Dude, Raw Story’s website is a fucking tire fire.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:28:38pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:30:25pm

FROG

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:30:29pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

Dude, Raw Story’s website is a fucking tire fire.

I don’t even click on their links any more. Life’s too short to wait for their pages to load up.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:31:22pm

Not happy with Biden’s stance on weed.
Very Happy with the way he trolls trump and hope he keeps it off, long after he’s out of the race.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:32:30pm
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:32:48pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

Not happy with Biden’s stance on weed.
Very Happy with the way he trolls trump and hope he keeps it off, long after he’s out of the race.

As was pointed out, that was early in Obama’s term. Someone should ask him again.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:34:08pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

Not happy with Biden’s stance on weed.
Very Happy with the way he trolls trump and hope he keeps it off, long after he’s out of the race.

Read the embedded “Weed” story with an eye to the dates of the reported first-person statements and their content. It’s a single-issue hit piece.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:34:29pm

re: #17 makeitstop

I don’t even click on their links any more. Life’s too short to wait for their pages to load up.

Thing is the website is actually okay on mobile devices. Once I get to a laptop or desktop, then it’s just

Giphy

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:35:00pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

Not happy with Biden’s stance on weed.
Very Happy with the way he trolls trump and hope he keeps it off, long after he’s out of the race.

I’m not a Biden supporter but the quote is from 2010.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:35:38pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Read the embedded”Weed” story with an eye to the dates of the reported first-person statements and their content. It’s a single-issue hit piece.

It’s from 2010. I really dislike this kind of strategy being used.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:35:54pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I’m not a Biden supporter but the quote is from 2010.

And most of the problem positions are from the 1990s.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:36:04pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

FROG

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Looks like FROG just came up the downspout. Return trip is usually easier.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:36:27pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:37:31pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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Why hasn’t Milo been deported?

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:37:36pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:38:06pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why hasn’t Milo been deported?

The UK won the toss.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:38:38pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

And most of the problem positions are from the 1990s.

Right. Biden isn’t my choice but I want to know about where one stands in 2019.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:39:27pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Kevin Kruse had a zinger about this yesterday.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:39:30pm

And it’s Dodie, who I’ve gotten hooked on since her singing with Pomplamoose.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:43:05pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Right. Biden isn’t my choice but I want to know about where one stands in 2019.

This is the kind of shit that’s going to gut us before the conventions. Push your own candidate, but everyone should STFU about the other Dems. One of them will be the winner, only to find half the faithful has painted itself into a “Never-Him” corner.

The Indivisible kids have the right idea:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:44:12pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

This is the kind of shit that’s going to gut us before the conventions. Push your own candidate, but everyone should STFU about the other Dems. One of them will be the winner, only to find half the faithful has painted itself into a “Never-Him” corner.

The Indivisible kids have the right idea:

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I’m fine with being critical. I’m not fine with distortion.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:45:28pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

I’m fine with being critical. I’m not fine with distortion.

If you need to be critical, that’s why Goddess created Republicans.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:45:53pm

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:46:12pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

This is the kind of shit that’s going to gut us before the conventions. Push your own candidate, but everyone should STFU about the other Dems. One of them will be the winner, only to find half the faithful has painted itself into a “Never-Him” corner.

The Indivisible kids have the right idea:

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So far, the only things I’ve heard that I truly did not like was when Sanders tried to deflect criticism by trying to hide behind the “We need to stay united” banner. Handling criticism is one of the things that will make the candidates stronger. And I am not as worried about us coming apart at the end.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:47:07pm

We have a winner. Of course it’s darth™.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:47:30pm

re: #38 Belafon

So far, the only things I’ve heard that I truly did not like was when Sanders tried to deflect criticism by trying to hide behind the “We need to stay united” banner. Handling criticism is one of the things that will make the candidates stronger. And I am not as worried about us coming apart at the end.

Were you worried in 2016?

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:48:13pm

And about that birthday tweet to Melanie, these fucking people (to quote @Stonekettle) have as much self-awareness as a dog licking its butthole in public.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:50:05pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:51:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:54:13pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If you need to be critical, that’s why Goddess created Republicans.

Come on DD. Our candidates need to be talked about critically. This is bs. You know this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:55:29pm

By critical I mean discussing their stances accurately. If a candidate does or says something right on, I will praise him or her but if he or she says something stupid, I’m not going to give them a pass just because of the D next to their name. We’re choosing a candidate. Not coronating someone.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:56:09pm

re: #38 Belafon

So far, the only things I’ve heard that I truly did not like was when Sanders tried to deflect criticism by trying to hide behind the “We need to stay united” banner. Handling criticism is one of the things that will make the candidates stronger. And I am not as worried about us coming apart at the end.

He has no right to do that when he has Nina Turner, David Sirota, and that crazy Press Secretary who voted for Stein in his employ.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:57:52pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Come on DD. Our candidates need to be talked about critically. This is bs. You know this.

If only there were a well-funded, highly-organized, conscience-free party to criticize Leftist candidates…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:58:24pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Were you worried in 2016?

TBH I wasn’t. Can you honestly tell me how we’re supposed to choose a candidate if we’re not critical. I’m sorry but I think this whole idea of not being critical is wrong. I liken it to peer review in classes. I can be critical without bashing someone. For example, if Biden IMO continues to oppose legalization, I will criticize him because we have seen legalization work in Colorado, Washington, and other states. I won’t call him a Narc or as bad as Trump but I sure as hell will criticize it. I feel that’s my right as a Democrat and a voter.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:58:57pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

If only there were a well-funded, highly-organized, conscience-free party to criticize Leftist candidates…

?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 6:59:25pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

If only there were a well-funded, highly-organized, conscience-free party to criticize Leftist candidates…

Yeah you’re right. We should never have critical discussion of our candidates. Come on dude, you’re not this dense. Maybe you’re taking my word criticism too harshly here.

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:00:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:00:51pm

re: #49 Belafon

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Greens or GOP I guess. I just think this is a very naive way to go about it. How are we supposed to separate our candidates from each other if we’re not critical. If my peer reviewed papers were just told “You’re good, this paper is 100% wonderful”, I wouldn’t have improved any.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:02:05pm

re: #51 gocart mozart

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They admitted it was about slavery and preserving white supremacy until those two concepts became unpopular but the actual secessionists admitted it. They were proud that they were protecting slavery.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:03:09pm

re: #49 Belafon

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It is the job of the fucking Republicans to criticize our candidate, and they have a taste for it. It is our job to get rid of the scum in the White House before they make the war unwinnable. You don’t do that by presenting candidates we have already sliced and diced in the primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:05:15pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

It is the job of the fucking Republicans to criticize our candidate, and they have a taste for it. It is our job to get rid of the scum in the White House before they make the war unwinnable. You don’t do that by presenting candidates we have already sliced and diced in the primaries.

We don’t have a candidate. We have 20 candidates. How are we supposed to choose the best one if we don’t offer criticism? I’m not saying we bash these men and women for goodness sake. I’m saying we discuss and criticize the issues. And you know what, I’m for praising when right is right too. I think you are taking my word criticism way too literally here. How do you think candidates are chosen in a primary? They’re not chosen by having their weaknesses ignored. I’d much rather get something out of the way in our primaries before the GOP can use it as a weapon against us.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:05:29pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Greens or GOP I guess. I just think this is a very naive way to go about it. How are we supposed to separate our candidates from each other if we’re not critical. If my peer reviewed papers were just told “You’re good, this paper is 100% wonderful”, I wouldn’t have improved any.

There is praise, there is criticism, and there is silence.

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:05:42pm
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:07:13pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:07:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:08:42pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

There is praise, there is criticism, and there is silence.

And if there’s just praise and silence, we don’t get the best possible candidate. I’m not saying we resort to name calling but we have every right to speak critically of the candidates. They’re not all alike. Offer praise when praise is deserved, Warren has definitely for example earned my praise for how she talked about infant mortality and Beto earned it by acknowledging why we need mental health coverage as well as health coverage. I really think you’re taking my word criticism way too hrashly here.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:14:11pm

Bashing: Joe Biden is a Neo-Lib, corporate sell out.

Criticism: I think Vice President Biden’s record on this issue is too cautious, Candidate X’s record is better and I think would make him a better candidate.

And honestly sometimes candidates deserve the criticism they get. Sanders being tone deaf on a question of Civil Rights is deserving of criticism. Sanders’ terrible record on the Russian Interference while he continues to blame the DNC for why what happened in 2016 merits criticism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:33:26pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

And if there’s just praise and silence, we don’t get the best possible candidate. I’m not saying we resort to name calling but we have every right to speak critically of the candidates. They’re not all alike. Offer praise when praise is deserved, Warren has definitely for example earned my praise for how she talked about infant mortality and Beto earned it by acknowledging why we need mental health coverage as well as health coverage. I really think you’re taking my word criticism way too hrashly here.

Criticism means two things: Unwarranted personal attacks, and reasoned critique.

Questioning how Elizabeth Warren might bring about her tax proposals, whether they would work as she describes, and asking for more information is constructive criticism.

Calling her Pocahontas as a racist slur is racist criticism. We can leave the racism to the conservatives and have constructive criticism to build better plans and platforms.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:34:50pm

Dayum, my telephone has been ringing off the hook all day between Tricare, the VA, and various hospitals trying to set up my examination as soon as possible.

It’s set. The mammogram will be on May 2 in Scottsbluff. Lined up, good to go, no cost to me, the VA will pay travel pay for the 120-mile round trip.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:35:24pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

Criticism means two things: Unwarranted personal attacks, and reasoned critique.

Questioning how Elizabeth Warren might bring about her tax proposals, whether they would work as she describes, and asking for more information is constructive criticism.

Calling her Pocahontas as a racist slur is racist criticism. We can leave the racism to the conservatives and have constructive criticism to build better plans and platforms.

Precisely. I wouldn’t even consider Pocahontas criticism tho. Just racism.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:35:40pm

This is my favorite tweet right now.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:37:02pm

Interesting—he makes the original Coca Cola recipe.

Note the grain alcohol and all the sugar he uses.

🔵 We Made 1886 Coca Cola Recipe || Glen & Friends Cooking

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:39:28pm

Bill Maher is an idiot. So is Grover Norquist.

That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:40:17pm

re: #67 Hecuba’s daughter

Bill Maher is an idiot. So is Grover Norquist.

That is all.

Yes.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:42:25pm

re: #38 Belafon

So far, the only things I’ve heard that I truly did not like was when Sanders tried to deflect criticism by trying to hide behind the “We need to stay united” banner. Handling criticism is one of the things that will make the candidates stronger. And I am not as worried about us coming apart at the end.

There is a lot of Dem-on-Dem sniping going on in the Twitterverse, and it’s disconcerting. My worst nightmare is getting to the convention and having the 2019 equivalents of PUMAs all over the place.

I hope it calms down as the primaries go on, but I fear it won’t.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:43:05pm

I think it’s a good idea.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:45:46pm

re: #69 makeitstop

There is a lot of Dem-on-Dem sniping going on in the Twitterverse, and it’s disconcerting. My worst nightmare is getting to the convention and having the 2019 equivalents of PUMAs all over the place.

I hope it calms down as the primaries go on, but I fear it won’t.

I hear ya but Twitter is more ideologically rigid than the actual base.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:47:03pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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There was a big agile software conference across the street from this thing. If you know agile culture, it is the antithesis of Trumpism.

My friends were sending me pictures all day with appropriate commentary. One presenter got up on stage with a “MAGA” hat, “Make Agile Great Again.” People walked out immediately.

Fun times, fun times.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:49:37pm
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William Lewis  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:50:56pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

I think it’s a good idea.

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George Henry Thomas as well!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:51:15pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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I’ve been overseas twice since Trump was elected. Not one person had nice things to say about Trump and I was in Poland/Slovakia where it’s much more conservative. My cousin the mayor asked our other cousin and me if Trump was crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:51:34pm

re: #74 William Lewis

George Henry Thomas as well!

I’m much proud that he’s our native son than Bobby Lee.

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makeitstop  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:51:50pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I hear ya but Twitter is more ideologically rigid than the actual base.

Maybe. But if Twitter ‘influencers’ (I’ll name Hoarse Wisperer and Amee Vanderpool, but there are more) are taking shots at whoever’s not their candidate, they’re hardening attitudes by incessantly condemning another Democrat.

That’s how the PUMAs happened. They talked themselves and each other into hating Obama. We can’t have that happen this time.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:53:09pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Maybe. But if Twitter ‘influencers’ (I’ll name Hoarse Wisperer and Amee Vanderpool, but there are more) are taking shots at whoever’s not their candidate, they’re hardening attitudes by incessantly condemning another Democrat.

That’s how the PUMAs happened. They talked themselves and each other into hating Obama. We can’t have that happen this time.

Oh definitely. TBH the only candidates I really hate are Bernie and Tulsi. But even those I’m not totally sold on I don’t really dislike em.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:56:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:56:38pm

I wonder how many of the racist Republicans who call Warren “Pocahontas” are even aware that Pocahontas was a real person and not just a cartoon character.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:57:11pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

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I guess he was threatened knowing there would be someone smarter and a more positive influence on children than him being honored.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:57:48pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder how many of the racist Republicans who call Warren “Pocahontas” are even aware that Pocahontas was a real person and not just a cartoon character.

It’s just such a pathetic attack. The Republican base finds it hilarious.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:59:03pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

It’s just such a pathetic attack. The Republican base finds it hilarious.

Small minds are easily amused.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:59:25pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

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They’re awfully threatened by her. Oh and you’re not flipping that district Republican because the people there know that you and the GOP are scum.

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Cheechako  Apr 26, 2019 • 7:59:51pm
At the NRA annual meeting, NRA top lobbyist Chris Cox says “the real America” is going to vote Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez out of office.

I have a hunch there’s not too many NRA members in her District.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:02:22pm

re: #85 Cheechako

I have a hunch there’s not too many NRA members in her District.

Or even Republicans. Gun humpers have no idea why gun control is popular in our cities. Maybe if they left their safe space, they’d get it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:03:13pm

re: #77 makeitstop

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:04:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:05:03pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

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Someone made a good point. He was never General Lee, USA.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:06:59pm

re: #69 makeitstop

There is a lot of Dem-on-Dem sniping going on in the Twitterverse, and it’s disconcerting. My worst nightmare is getting to the convention and having the 2019 equivalents of PUMAs all over the place.

I hope it calms down as the primaries go on, but I fear it won’t.

The PUMAs didn’t chant about Hillary, requiring the crowd to counter-chant, but I know what you mean.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:08:20pm

re: #72 BlueGrl21

There was a big agile software conference across the street from this thing. If you know agile culture, it is the antithesis of Trumpism.

My friends were sending me pictures all day with appropriate commentary. One presenter got up on stage with a “MAGA” hat, “Make Agile Great Again.” People walked out immediately.

Fun times, fun times.

My company is switching to an agile culture, and, being a defense contractor, is full of conservatives, so that’s pretty funny.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:09:04pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:11:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:12:14pm

Trump knows nothing about Civil War history or any history or anything.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:12:48pm

I wanted to share this with my friends, you, fellow Lizards.

The tweet that got me a 12 hour Twitter Jail Sentence this week.

h/JLAMNvSRre/gL46XXZxaGfYXKH2w5cGjYHzocQk0M8h2kBHSdw16p34nZIkEAI3aUyHIVt9gjjwBTFqzn0uwHLeS/wdScYAXSPTZBRZWkqHlsEsrYskvN6Mkcu8eHSwl2dXEpI+qhhv1KyGvWTmZiv86xU6mrgEVk9jo3Zi31QSSMop47IArmcN6nCTreAdJkoRsTzClwMK1gLK0hvPWqCQyDRHe4WJsh9uI7CmOj1qwXAIj+ad8RQxu3Z+3/yARAS4fbWZbUqjJ7zjC+9NJ98m25plRth4mBokzENBK7wPGDa/ZyMMUElbR7ACN1i3LevbgBKEmWmj6H+gl5PT/vHuvz/CusD692bHWRqb5FDk4J2chpNTTTAdbqVIZLJyqVNVyj1GGozoiAT18a/mg==

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:13:59pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

I wanted to share this with my friends, you, fellow Lizards.

The tweet that got me a 12 hour Twitter Jail Sentence this week.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:14:57pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

It’s obscene.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:15:35pm

Taint Gremlin?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:16:09pm
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Cheechako  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:16:36pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

I wanted to share this with my friends, you, fellow Lizards.

The tweet that got me a 12 hour Twitter Jail Sentence this week.

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re: #97 teleskiguy

I think you used the F word one time too many.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:17:36pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

jfc, I’m watching parts of Trump’s NRA speech and wow is this country in trouble or what

the president is NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD

That’s certainly true of the tens of millions who continue to support him, no matter what he says or does. Can you really be sure that he’s not just mocking us all? That he has discovered that it’s not just shooting someone on Fifth Avenue that will be forgiven — it’s collaborating with the Russians — lying — or rambling incoherently — and he knows that he he’s pwning the libs with his speeches.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:17:42pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

I wanted to share this with my friends, you, fellow Lizards.

The tweet that got me a 12 hour Twitter Jail Sentence this week.

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Next time someone replies to Cornyn, reply with random long words that would show up in a Haggard Hawks set of tweets and see if the same thing occurs.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:18:23pm

re: #100 Cheechako

I think you used the F word one time too many.

The MPAA - who issues ratings for movies - allows one ‘fuck’ in PG-13 movies. You may be right.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:19:25pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Taint Gremlin?

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:21:35pm

I wonder if I would get in trouble with my wife and kid if I snuck out to a midnight showing of Endgame so I can stop trying to avoid spoilers?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:23:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:23:53pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

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It wasn’t infringed on in the Obama administration either Mother’s Husband but go ahead lie some more you lying hack.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:24:35pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

The MPAA - who issues ratings for movies - allows one ‘fuck’ in PG-13 movies. You may be right.

If I had the urge to express myself that way, I would try a recognizable piece of art. I would quote the late artist, George Carlin:

Click to Reveal

shit piss fuck **** cocksucker motherfucker and tits

Ooh, the really bad one is double-hid!

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:24:39pm
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:24:52pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:25:47pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:26:36pm
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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:27:01pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:28:42pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

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Bork was bad Jonah. He was a judicial extremist who had no business on SCOTUS and he got a hearing unlike Garland. Reagan chose an extremist douche and the Senate rejected that extremist douche and there were Republicans among them. STFU.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:29:29pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder how many of the racist Republicans who call Warren “Pocahontas” are even aware that Pocahontas was a real person and not just a cartoon character.

Doesn’t matter to my sister who uses that slur every chance she can.

Only makes me more determined to vote for Elizabeth!

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:29:30pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

I was totally channeling GC when I made that tweet!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:30:14pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Bork was bad Jonah. He was a judicial extremist who had no business on SCOTUS and he got a hearing unlike Garland. Reagan chose an extremist douche and the Senate rejected that extremist douche and there were Republicans among them. STFU.

And Reagan chose him as a reward for the Saturday Night Massacre.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:31:07pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doesn’t matter to my sister who uses that slur every chance she can.

Only makes me more determined to vote for Elizabeth!

Have you asked her why she’s a racist? (Using that word? Racists hate being named correctly.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:31:23pm

re: #113 Belafon

Yeah seriously enough of poor Bork. Reagan knew he would be controversial. Garland otoh was someone that Hatch praised as a good hypothetical pick. Admit it Jonah, the reason why Mitch held up Garland was he knew the court would be more left than it had been in years and he was afraid of that. Bork was an extremist kook who was a deliberate fuck you to the integrity of the federal judiciary.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:31:40pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

And Reagan chose him as a reward for the Saturday Night Massacre.

Yep. Fuck Bork.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:32:09pm

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

Have you asked her why she’s a racist? (Using that word? Racists hate being named correctly.)

It’s her “deep christian faith”…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:32:43pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

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Love that kid. Oh and NRA you guys did a great job of that on your own.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:33:29pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s her “deep christian faith”…

“So, Christianity is racism?”

I’m glad I’m not a Christian, then.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:35:44pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

“So, Christianity is racism?”

I’m glad I’m not a Christian, then.

Which is why I spend Sunday mornings working out at the gym. Beats sleeping in a pew ignoring Republican talking points coming out of the Pulpit Pimp’s mouth.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:35:56pm

Indiana Bans Safest Second-Term Abortion Method, Because They Just Really Love Life (Wonkette)

Indiana’s governor just signed into law bills which ban the D+E method of abortion, which is the safest method in the second trimester.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:35:56pm

Border walls work so well we’re adding a second wall.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:36:12pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

“So, Christianity is racism?”

I’m glad I’m not a Christian, then.

No, actually it’s the quotation marks that make it racist. Be glad you’re not surrounded by quotation marks.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:37:18pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:37:49pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

That won’t last.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:38:46pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Yeah seriously enough of poor Bork. Reagan knew he would be controversial. Garland otoh was someone that Hatch praised as a good hypothetical pick. Admit it Jonah, the reason why Mitch held up Garland was he knew the court would be more left than it had been in years and he was afraid of that. Bork was an extremist kook who was a deliberate fuck you to the integrity of the federal judiciary.

Jonah Goldberg is really good at playing dumb. He’s so good, he has me completely convinced.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:39:16pm

re: #128 Ace-o-aces

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And I remember the New York Times “investigation” that showed Gore actually winning Florida in 2000. So quite naturally they buried that deep in their propaganda rag…

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:39:53pm

re: #126 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Border walls work so well we’re adding a second wall.

I wonder how long until the third wall?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:40:33pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:41:31pm

re: #132 Belafon

I wonder how long until the third wall?

I hope he’s getting a discount at Wall Mart.

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Interesting Times  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:42:53pm

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:43:36pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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He also got a hearing and a full vote in the Senate. Two major things Mitch denied Garland. I’m not shedding any tears that the Senate did its duty and gave Bork a thumbs down. The only people who think Bork belonged on SCOTUS are right wing assholes like Jonah who think judicial extremists like Bork are mainstream.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:43:58pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Ha:

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Oh man.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:44:50pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

[a far right crackpot]

Redundancy alert warning.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:45:27pm

I’ve read Liberal Fascism. I need to destroy my copy of the book in some cool way.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:45:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:46:43pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

I’ve read Liberal Fascism. I need to destroy my copy of the book in some cool way.

Office Space style.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:46:51pm

I still follow Jonah Goldberg on Twitter, he’s the greatest example of a Never Trumper who is also a Trumphumper.

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:47:31pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

I’ve read Liberal Fascism. I need to destroy my copy of the book in some cool way.

Involving the gorilla suit….

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:48:02pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Office Space style.

Cooler than that. I was thinking shooting it with a rifle, then ripping all the pages out in a dumpster, followed by setting the cover on fire.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:48:15pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

I still follow Jonah Goldberg on Twitter, he’s the greatest example of a Never Trumper who is also a Trumphumper.

Yep. He’s a fake. Trump just embarrasses him because Trump shows his ideology for what it is.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:48:52pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

Cooler than that. I was thinking shooting it with a rifle, then ripping all the pages out in a dumpster, followed by setting the cover on fire.

That works. How about using the pages as rolling papers?

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:48:57pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Involving the gorilla suit….

That suit does not belong to me, I borrowed it. From the ski area’s head of marketing.

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teleskiguy  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:49:45pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

That works. How about using the pages as rolling papers?

Book pages make for piss poor rolling papers. Too thick.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:51:55pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

Book pages make for piss poor rolling papers. Too thick.

I doubt the ink is good for you.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:52:20pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

Book pages make for piss poor rolling papers. Too thick.

True true.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:52:35pm

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:52:41pm

We have a winner

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:53:42pm

The contact lens gremlin has stolen my right lens. I dropped it and now can’t find it, even with my glasses on. I have spares, but WTF?

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wrenchwench  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:54:21pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

Book pages make for piss poor rolling papers. Too thick.

That reminds me of the time we gave a neighbor kid a helmet that he liked so much, he wore it all the time for a couple days. Day 2, Mr. w said, ‘you know you can’t sleep with it on…’ Kid said, ‘I know, it hurts your neck right here,’

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 8:58:50pm

re: #127 Belafon

No, actually it’s the quotation marks that make it racist. Be glad you’re not surrounded by quotation marks.

“Anymouse”

It’s really not my problem to sort out their problems. If I had a Christian relative who claimed “Pocahontas” is part of their Christian faith, that would exactly be my next question.

The only Christian in my family who will even acknowledge I exist is my sister; all those United Methodists pitched her for her sexual orientation and me for my religious position.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:00:23pm

And the problem is?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:01:08pm

re: #156 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

And the problem is?

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I’m not seeing a downside Lindsay. But be you, be a toadie.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:03:03pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

Book pages make for piss poor rolling papers. Too thick.

Use it a page at a time in the appropriate place. Daily.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:03:13pm

re: #129 Dave In Austin

That won’t last.

Well, Boof Kavanaugh is now on the Supreme Court, along with a bunch of Catholics who would overturn Griswold and Eisenstadt if they could.

Money is no object for conservatives when there is government overreach into uteri to accomplish. Many states now have trigger laws on the books to immediately snap abortion into illegality the second Roe is struck down or seriously modified.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:06:52pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Can’t fool me. If I was gay I would dress better.

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MsJ  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:11:32pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:12:39pm

re: #161 MsJ

LOL. A dead skunk.

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:14:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:14:11pm

More vibrant than Donald Trump? A taco bowl at his restaurant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:14:16pm

Back to bed. Pain is too much. Catch y’all later.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:16:02pm

re: #163 Belafon

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Gotta love that intellectual curiosity. Adam’s raising a smart kid.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:17:40pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:26:55pm

Look who I found under a twiiter rock

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:32:16pm

This Genetic Engineering shtick has gotten way out of hand!

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Belafon  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:36:21pm

Some of the Avengers cast are on Jimmy Kimmel. Chris Hemsworth said that the line “He’s a friend from work” was created by a kid on the set of Ragnarok.

Cleaned up.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:38:02pm

re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

Looks like they got that one just in time. Becuase if you let them get too big you get this…

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ObserverArt  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:38:47pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

I think it’s a good idea.

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Sherman Statue - Lancaster Ohio
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:38:54pm

re: #171 Unshaken Defiance

Looks like they got that one just in time. Becuase if you let them get too big you get this…

[Embedded content]

FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD MMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:39:10pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Shorter Jonah Goldberg: “Look what you made me do!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:42:14pm

LOL

facebook.com

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gocart mozart  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:42:31pm

After Party

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:43:01pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

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Shorter Jonah Goldberg: “Look what you made me do!”

Reagan never apologized for picking a hack like Bork. Jonah has no right to complain about what happened.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:47:35pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Reagan never apologized for picking a hack like Bork. Jonah has no right to complain about what happened.

He got his revenge when the Republicans packed the courts with four more reactionary rubber stamps for the GOP.

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Chrysicat  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:48:24pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Dayum, my telephone has been ringing off the hook all day between Tricare, the VA, and various hospitals trying to set up my examination as soon as possible.

It’s set. The mammogram will be on May 2 in Scottsbluff. Lined up, good to go, no cost to me, the VA will pay travel pay for the 120-mile round trip.

No offense intended, but you’re a cisgendered male. I’m sure the lump got larger than it would have been on me, but how did you notice it even then?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:54:52pm

Next Wednesday will be fun for me. Have to get up at 330AM, taxi picks me up at 415 to get me to LAX by 5AM. Have a 7AM flight to San Jose and then a 90 minute drive to Salinas for a regional meeting. And I got to give a presentation while being disoriented. I offered to pay my own way to hop Amtrak to Salinas and stay an extra day before and after but that was declined…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:55:40pm

re: #178 Joe Bacon 🌹

He got his revenge when the Republicans packed the courts with four more reactionary rubber stamps for the GOP.

Too true.

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piratedan  Apr 26, 2019 • 9:59:41pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I mean hell, even though he didn’t make it out of the Judiciary committee, they STILL gave him a full hearing. Where he was rejected.

Nomination does not guarantee acceptance, but at least he got a hearing in a fair process, get back to me when Mitch McConnell follows the rules, of yeah, he won’t until he’s in the minority again and chances are he’ll want to re institute all those norms he was busy trashing when he was in the majority. Should just stick a wadded up dirty sock in his mouth and tilt him back in his chair in the corner.

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allegro  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:03:13pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

Cooler than that. I was thinking shooting it with a rifle, then ripping all the pages out in a dumpster, followed by setting the cover on fire.

LOL People’s different approaches to things are so fun. My image was a Wiccan purification ritual, all herbal and visualization and shit… and then fire. We both end up at fucking destruction.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:07:28pm

re: #182 piratedan

I mean hell, even though he didn’t make it out of the Judiciary committee, they STILL gave him a full hearing. Where he was rejected.

Nomination does not guarantee acceptance, but at least he got a hearing in a fair process, get back to me when Mitch McConnell follows the rules, of yeah, he won;t until he’s in the minority again and chances are he’ll want to re institute all those norms he was busy trashing when he was in the majority. Should just stick a wadded up dirty sock in his mouth and tilt him back in his chair in the corner.

That’s why the filibuster and 60 vote threshold must be killed when the Democrats take over the Senate.

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allegro  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:09:49pm

re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

This Genetic Engineering shtick has gotten way out of hand!

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I think that looks delicious tbh.

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unproven innocence  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:14:24pm

re: #167 Ace-o-aces

Oliver North got a mention in one episode of The Americans. “Story by Oliver North & Tracey Scott Wilson” —shows up at 8min mark of Season 2, Disc3, Episode2, “Martial Eagle”. The Jennings pair are sent to a Central American country, and tasked with covertly photographing covert US military/CIA training on secret bases of local recruits in various deadly military equipment and tactics for use against certain local civilian groups.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:16:01pm

All they ever do is lie.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:19:25pm

re: #170 Belafon

Some of the Avengers cast are on Jimmy Kimmel. Chris Hemsworth said that the line “He’s a friend from work” was created by a kid on the set of Ragnarok.

Cleaned up.

I love hearing little tidbits like that.

I saw Endgame yesterday. I was surprised that (1) it was pretty long and (2) I really didn’t mind. Fair warning, though, do NOT drink a lot of liquids during the movie.

I was a bit disappointed in the relatively brief screentimes of Captain Marvel, who pops in at the beginning — oh, hi, I’m a totally new (to all y’all) hero who can kick all y’all’s asses — disappears throughout most of the flick, then arrives in the nick of time to battle Thanos — whose ass she did not kick successfully. But, she got her own movie, so there’s that.

The version I watched was for the Chinese market (since I am in China), so I wonder if there were any differences between it and the version released in the States. Sometimes, the studios slip in extra scenes to localize flicks, and sometimes censors take out scenes for local reasons.

When they don’t or can’t, this kind of thing happens:

Leica Camera’s ad depicting Tiananmen Square’s ‘Tank Man’ creates uproar from Chinese social media

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:22:34pm

re: #188 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Here’s the full commercial, created by an agency in Brazil.

“The Hunt” from Leica - Leica Camera’s ad depicting Tiananmen Square’s ‘Tank Man’ China

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William Lewis  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:34:13pm

re: #189 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Huh? No Leica’s were used that day. 5 different photographers managed to use their SLR’s & telephoto lenses but none were Leica. So they caught shit for the ad but they weren’t even part of the image the government was POd about.

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sagehen  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:42:14pm

re: #69 makeitstop

There is a lot of Dem-on-Dem sniping going on in the Twitterverse, and it’s disconcerting. My worst nightmare is getting to the convention and having the 2019 equivalents of PUMAs all over the place.

I hope it calms down as the primaries go on, but I fear it won’t.

Slacktivist has an idea:
patheos.com

I’d like to see this primary campaign play out like a “scramble” in golf. (The idea of a scramble is that everybody takes their tee shot, but then everybody plays from the point of the best ball after that, and then from the best ball after that, etc., on every hole. The final score is the product of all those best shots.

One candidate comes out with a terrific statement on, say, the student-debt crisis. Mark that spot and everybody move to within a club-length of that location. Then everybody takes another swing at the next issue. Take the best idea and move on from there.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:42:40pm

re: #190 William Lewis

Huh? No Leica’s were used that day. 5 different photographers managed to use their SLR’s & telephoto lenses but none were Leica. So they caught shit for the ad but they weren’t even part of the image the government was POd about.

Yeah, the ad agency took a lot of liberties with history to make that spot. I’m not a Leica expert, but the camera and lens used to supposedly take the tank man photo probably were not available in 1989.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:59:24pm

Friday Nite Forge……
The simple things

Blacksmithing - Making a garden trowel

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allegro  Apr 26, 2019 • 10:59:43pm

re: #191 sagehen

Slacktivist has an idea:
patheos.com

If only human beings could be so clear of goal…

Huh, trying to finish that cynical sentence made me think of times when I was a part of a small group that truly was clear of goal and where personal position WRT hierarchy/power just wasn’t a thing. It was purely “what role do I best fill to accomplish this goal” and we each did our parts, as suited our skills/interests, as equals in service to a common goal. Cooperation. Devoid of power-seeking and bullshit.

Every one of those occasions was all women.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 26, 2019 • 11:14:48pm
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sagehen  Apr 26, 2019 • 11:25:03pm

re: #194 allegro

If only human beings could be so clear of goal…

Huh, trying to finish that cynical sentence made me think of times when I was a part of a small group that truly was clear of goal and where personal position WRT hierarchy/power just wasn’t a thing. It was purely “what role do I best fill to accomplish this goal” and we each did our parts, as suited our skills/interests, as equals in service to a common goal. Cooperation. Devoid of power-seeking and bullshit.

Every one of those occasions was all women.

The stories my rabbi used to tell of his days first in the Hagganah, and then a small unit in the war of independence, fit that description.

As Hagganah, they were all sabras, almost half women (including the cell leader, who eventually became his rebbetzin). They were a good mix of kibbutzniks and city kids, by the time the war started they’d added DP’s from 4 different European nations, and some American vets. Rule 1 for downtime between missions was “whoever’s the best at anything, has to teach everyone else” — so no matter how high the casualty rate, no skills would be lost. By the end of the war, every last one of them could repair an engine, make bullets, make camouflage suits, track/kill/cook dinner, and do First Aid.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 26, 2019 • 11:31:39pm

So, I wake up this morning and see that a low-level civil war is going on in the NRA, between Ollie North and Wayne LaPierre. Heh.

I’d be willing to bet that the NRA is rife with a shit ton of graft and corruption. For many, many years they had a veritable tsunami of money coming in and I wouldn’t be at all shocked to learn that Wayne probably pocketed some of that. It’s also entirely possible that Ackerman McQueen, Inc., the advertising company, was in on the scheme: maybe they overbid for that NRA contract and sent Wayne a nice little kickback.

The irony in all this is that if that suspicion is correct, Oliver North is actually doing the right thing by trying to get rid of LaPierre - that being said, he shouldn’t be resorting to mafiosi methods to get LaPierre to resign. He should present his evidence in a straightforward manner and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, we’re talking Ollie North here.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 26, 2019 • 11:42:44pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

How many more Maria Butinas are out there?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 26, 2019 • 11:55:56pm

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Of course, Ollie isn’t blameless in this risible farce either.

The National Rifle Association took a shot at its own president just days before the kick-off of its huge national meeting.

An updated version of a civil complaint, entered in Virginia state court on April 24, make new claims about Col. Oliver North’s relationship with the company that runs NRATV, the video network linked to the gun-rights group. The filings are part of an eye-popping lawsuit the organization filed against its long-time ad agency, which built and runs the network. The suit gives a rare narrative of the tension within the organization. And the updates to the litigation, which have not been previously reported, indicate that friction in the organization is so hot that the NRA is willing to zero in on its own president.

The initial complaint, filed on April 12, discussed North’s contract with Ackerman McQueen, the advertising firm it has worked with for upwards of 30 years. But it didn’t provide much detail on North’s relationship with the ad agency beyond that he would help it produce a documentary series for NRATV.

The updates to the complaint include more detail about North’s work and point to deep irritation between the group and its president. Not only did North fail to deliver on all of the material he promised for NRATV, the suit alleges. North, in effect, double-dipped by drawing a salary from both the gun-rights group and Ackerman McQueen at the same time. Meanwhile, The Wall Street Journal published a letter LaPierre sent to the NRA board on Thursday alleging that North tried to blackmail him into quitting the organization.

Representatives of the NRA, North, and Ackerman McQueen did not comment for this story.

thedailybeast.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:06:46am

re: #179 Chrysicat

No offense intended, but you’re a cisgendered male. I’m sure the lump got larger than it would have been on me, but how did you notice it even then?

One day I stretched out my right arm a few weeks ago, and searing pain screamed from my armpit to my nipple. I first thought that was just some odd thing, but it kept doing it.

I then called the VA and asked WTF. They walked me through a series of questions designed to rule out an infection of some sort, then how to do a self-exam.

They then said they would arrange to get a mammogram, which took several days to find anyone around my area who can do them on men (the VA here can’t).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:13:31am

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s why the filibuster and 60 vote threshold must be killed when the Democrats take over the Senate.

I’d prefer that the filibuster be kept, but you actually have to be on the floor do it. Maintaining such a filibuster requires you keep your people in the Senate, because the second too many of them leave, the filibuster can be broken and a vote called immediately.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:17:03am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

That works. How about using the pages as rolling papers?

The ink may not be harmful to humans but the content is.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:20:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:13:05am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

It’s from 2010. I really dislike this kind of strategy being used.

That is the sad fact of American politics. “Experience” nowadays means “political baggage that can be dragged out and used against you”

Whereas “unfounded bragging and hollow promises” seems to go a lot farther.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:14:51am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

TBH I wasn’t. Can you honestly tell me how we’re supposed to choose a candidate if we’re not critical. I’m sorry but I think this whole idea of not being critical is wrong. I liken it to peer review in classes. I can be critical without bashing someone.

And that is the exception father than the rule.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:17:37am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

We don’t have a candidate. We have 20 candidates. How are we supposed to choose the best one if we don’t offer criticism?

You understand the distinction between “constructive criticism” and “dragging someone through the mud, humiliating them and comparing them to various dictators, mass-murderers and lower forms of animal life”

Again, the exception rather than the rule these days

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:18:53am

re: #67 Hecuba’s daughter

Bill Maher is an idiot. So is Grover Norquist.

That is all.

Grover has been all but absent from political discourse lately.

Not that he is missed at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:20:14am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

They’re not scared of Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong Un.

But, goddamned if @AOC doesn’t shrivel their tiny balls in abject terror every day.

She shrivels their balls in terror but also gives them a hard-on and they just don’t know how to deal with that, at least since their sixth-grade teacher…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2019 • 1:23:59am

re: #110 Belafon

Under this President and this administration, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed!

and the concept of a “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State” will continue to be ignored and left out of any discussion of gun control

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:37:06am

Earthquake!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:41:39am

re: #210 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Earthquake!

Where?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:46:51am

little one

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:48:54am

re: #212 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Couple of years back, there was a 3.5 earthquake not far from Ostrava, Czech Republic - it hit around 2 am or so. All my students later that day were like, “DID YOU FEEL THE EARTHQUAKE?!”

I slept through it. I didn’t even notice it.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:50:57am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

It’s rare to feel a 3.5 beyond 15 miles unless you live on a bowl of jello, like Mexico City.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2019 • 2:52:58am

Any quakes on Earth that are 5.0 or greater are logged on this Twitter account.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 3:08:23am

The end of runway 19R

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2019 • 3:33:31am

A Spanish Portrait: Llobet, Tárrega, Granados, Albeniz

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steve_davis  Apr 27, 2019 • 4:38:41am

re: #22 teleskiguy

Thing is the website is actually okay on mobile devices. Once I get to a laptop or desktop, then it’s just

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opposite for me. it’s fine on desktop. I try loading that shizzle on my Ipad and it’s like waiting for Godot.

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DangerMan  Apr 27, 2019 • 4:42:26am

yesterday: not a good day

today:

YouTube

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steve_davis  Apr 27, 2019 • 4:55:08am

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

Interesting—he makes the original Coca Cola recipe.

Note the grain alcohol and all the sugar he uses.

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Video

I want to see what happens when the caffeine crosses the blood brain barrier.

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DangerMan  Apr 27, 2019 • 4:58:03am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Wow. The first Djesse album didn’t grab me, tbh. But this is the shit. By which I mean something that is not shit.

i remember way way back trying to explain to mom that ‘bad’ meant ‘good’

she nearly creamed me with the electric toaster

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A Mom Anon  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:01:26am

re: #172 ObserverArt

I was born in Lancaster. Lived in Columbus most of my childhood. A visit to Sherman’s birthplace was pretty much part of jr high school history classes for everyone back in the day. Along with actual education in civil war history. None of this bullshit state’s rights nonsense either. When I moved to Georgia over 30 yrs ago, the difference in education standards was really stark. It hasn’t improved much either.

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:01:54am

Contemplating randomness… it may come as a bit of a surprise, but the idea of “random” is a troubling one, not as easy to pin down as one may expect.

This comes on the heels of my obsession with lotteries.

There is a bit of an addiction to the Law of Large Numbers, when it comes with trying to explain things.

Knowing the above is important because if one looks at the history of MegaMillions and PowerBall draws, one may think the numbers drawn are not random. Indeed, there are plenty of websites out there that try to convince people that the draws are not random but fit some sort of pattern (that is predictable, and if you only subscribe to the right service…)

The lotteries look like they are not random because some numbers have come up much more frequently than others, and even more disturbing is that certain pairs of numbers have come up together in a draw much more often than rest of the set of all pairs.

The troubling thing is that there is no way to prove that a lottery draw has to be “random”. By which I do not mean that a game is rigged by the lottery company.

This, btw, is, I suspect, why there are still people who hold hidden variable (or spin-offs thereof such as pilot-wave) beliefs when it comes to quantum mechanics.

We humans, it appears, believe that some event has to be caused by some prior event or events. This is the tact creationists often take when trying to trip up non-creationists.

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DangerMan  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:02:39am

re: #194 allegro

If only human beings could be so clear of goal…

Huh, trying to finish that cynical sentence made me think of times when I was a part of a small group that truly was clear of goal and where personal position WRT hierarchy/power just wasn’t a thing. It was purely “what role do I best fill to accomplish this goal” and we each did our parts, as suited our skills/interests, as equals in service to a common goal. Cooperation. Devoid of power-seeking and bullshit.

Every one of those occasions was all women.

running for prez takes a lot of ego. working at the high levels in a campaign does too
how to keep them outside the room?

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jeffreyw  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:12:04am

Good morning!

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:35:23am

re: #106 Dave In Austin

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“Shall not be” but see, the word “shall” doesn’t mean “have to” I heard the republicans say the other day.

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DangerMan  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:43:57am

re: #224 freetoken

The lotteries look like they are not random because some numbers have come up much more frequently than others, and even more disturbing is that certain pairs of numbers have come up together in a draw much more often than rest of the set of all pairs

This thinking also traps the amateurs. Whatever the past distribution doesn’t mean the next draw isn’t random

The classic example:
A fair coin tossed 10 heads in a row. The next toss is still 50/50

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DangerMan  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:44:54am

re: #225 DangerMan

running for prez takes a lot of ego. working at the high levels in a campaign does too
how to keep them outside the room?

The egos, not the people

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 27, 2019 • 5:56:06am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

Womp womp.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:03:34am

re: #224 freetoken

Contemplating randomness… it may come as a bit of a surprise, but the idea of “random” is a troubling one, not as easy to pin down as one may expect

We are a species that is genetically programmed to find patterns. It is a survival instinct. We don’t cope with ‘random’ at all. If a person looks at a (as well as we can make it) random distribution of, e.g. dot in a 1000x1000 matrix, they will pick out a clumping of data and say ‘look, that’s a pattern, it can’t be random. Ask people to randomly distribute themselves in a room, they will create a totally non-random clumping; people will find cancer clusters near power lines and say look, we have a cause for disease.

Except for vaccinations. That correlation is totes not there.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:17:12am

re: #225 DangerMan

running for prez takes a lot of ego. working at the high levels in a campaign does too
how to keep them outside the room?

Women, in general, have underdeveloped egos, due to centuries of patriarchy. On the other hand, men’s egos are systematically enhanced. This is ‘good’ for a few, and destructive to the rest; men, women, and especially everybody else.

It can be overcome in a few generations. We have begun. But for now, keeping women in the room will reduce the ego-content.

IMHfemaleO.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:25:09am

re: #232 wrenchwench

Women, in general, have underdeveloped egos, due to centuries of patriarchy. On the other hand, men’s egos are systematically enhanced. This is ‘good’ for a few, and destructive to the rest; men, women, and especially everybody else.

It can be overcome in a few generations. We have begun. But for now, keeping women in the room will reduce the ego-content.

IMHfemaleO.

Or send it sky-high through sexual competition.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:30:07am

re: #233 Decatur Deb

Or send it sky-high through sexual competition.

After Hillary’s campaign, I’m ready for it.

Which means nothing for the 2020 campaign. I’m in it for the longer haul. And not feeling very reconcily. Reconciliatory; not feeling it, not spelling it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:31:55am

re: #223 A Mom Anon

I was born in Lancaster. Lived in Columbus most of my childhood. A visit to Sherman’s birthplace was pretty much part of jr high school history classes for everyone back in the day. Along with actual education in civil war history. None of this bullshit state’s rights nonsense either. When I moved to Georgia over 30 yrs ago, the difference in education standards was really stark. It hasn’t improved much either.

Lancaster remains a nice classic small American town. They keep the downtown in pretty nice shape. I drive through there quite often when I go for a drive down to Hocking Hills.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:34:24am

re: #234 wrenchwench

After Hillary’s campaign, I’m ready for it.

Which means nothing for the 2020 campaign. I’m in it for the longer haul. And not feeling very reconcily. Reconciliatory; not feeling it, not spelling it.

It’s a thousand-year war, and I intend to maintain an even strain.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:38:03am

re: #234 wrenchwench

After Hillary’s campaign, I’m ready for it.

Which means nothing for the 2020 campaign. I’m in it for the longer haul. And not feeling very reconcily. Reconciliatory; not feeling it, not spelling it.

it’s payback time.

Don’t forget the Governor’s races in Kentucky (Bevin has to go) and Louisiana (Got to help John Bel Edwards hold on).

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:39:05am

re: #228 DangerMan

re: #231 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There are deeper problems here, though, beyond the human proclivity to find patterns.

Considerable writings on the topic of “randomness” have resulted in at best a murky definition of what it meant by “random”.

The problem underlying our discussion is the difference between statistics (that is, the data accumulated through measurement) and thus what may be termed statistical randomness, and a more abstract meaning of “random” (in sense of inherently having no cause.)

Strictly speaking, the lotteries do not measure well as “random” but we tend to argue that away because the sample size ( a few hundred drawings) is so much smaller than the sample space (around three hundred million). There is a local non-randomness, but we believe that there is still a global randomness.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:41:19am

re: #231 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We are a species that is genetically programmed to find patterns. It is a survival instinct. We don’t cope with ‘random’ at all. If a person looks at a (as well as we can make it) random distribution of, e.g. dot in a 1000x1000 matrix, they will pick out a clumping of data and say ‘look, that’s a pattern, it can’t be random. Ask people to randomly distribute themselves in a room, they will create a totally non-random clumping; people will find cancer clusters near power lines and say look, we have a cause for disease.

Except for vaccinations. That correlation is totes not there.

They will distribute themselves evenly throughout the room, whereas a random distribution might lead a few to be together. There was a web comic I read a few years ago where the father explained it to the main character, but I don’t think I’ll be able to find it.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:42:09am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

The last one is the best:

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:45:34am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

it’s payback time.

Don’t forget the Governor’s races in Kentucky (Bevin has to go) and Louisiana (Got to help John Bel Edwards hold on).

I don’t believe in payback. There’s no way to get payback for centuries of history. And it doesn’t usually help in achieving other goals. I read a tweet last night about a woman who searched for a seat at the table and ended up building herself one.

And I can’t keep track of all the states. I can barely remember my (new, great) governor’s three names.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:46:20am

re: #232 wrenchwench

Women, in general, have underdeveloped egos, due to centuries of patriarchy. On the other hand, men’s egos are systematically enhanced. This is ‘good’ for a few, and destructive to the rest; men, women, and especially everybody else.

It can be overcome in a few generations. We have begun. But for now, keeping women in the room will reduce the ego-content.

IMHfemaleO.

I was sort of thinking about how Jim Crow impacts where we are now especially for women of color.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:46:40am

re: #132 Belafon

I wonder how long until the third wall?

But everyone is used to the fourth wall being broken on occasion by now.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:50:16am

I’ve been re-educating myself on the Civil Rights Movement and man it just pisses me off all over again. It’s why I don’t want to hear other white guys whether they be Trumpers or lefties lecture about “identity politics”.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:52:14am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

I was sort of thinking about how Jim Crow impacts where we are now especially for women of color.

Good point(s).

I remember when Ms. magazine had articles about ‘letting’ lesbians into the women’s movement. And not-very-flattering discussions (limited and one-sided) of women of color.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:54:57am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

So, I wake up this morning and see that a low-level civil war is going on in the NRA, between Ollie North and Wayne LaPierre. Heh.

I’d be willing to bet that the NRA is rife with a shit ton of graft and corruption. For many, many years they had a veritable tsunami of money coming in and I wouldn’t be at all shocked to learn that Wayne probably pocketed some of that. It’s also entirely possible that Ackerman McQueen, Inc., the advertising company, was in on the scheme: maybe they overbid for that NRA contract and sent Wayne a nice little kickback.

The irony in all this is that if that suspicion is correct, Oliver North is actually doing the right thing by trying to get rid of LaPierre - that being said, he shouldn’t be resorting to mafiosi methods to get LaPierre to resign. He should present his evidence in a straightforward manner and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, we’re talking Ollie North here.

Maybe Ollie from experience in dealing with the NRA board knows that they don’t care about evidence and integrity.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:55:36am

re: #245 wrenchwench

Good point(s).

I remember when Ms. magazine had articles about ‘letting’ lesbians into the women’s movement. And not-very-flattering discussions (limited and one-sided) of women of color.

I was listening to a podcast I discovered Wonderly’s American History Tellers since a friend recommended me one of their podcasts about sports. They had one on the Civil Rights Movement and it correctly IMO started in WWII with the efforts by A. Phillip Randolph to desegregate the defense industries. Randolph is someone I think often forgotten even though he was the one who organized the march where MLK gave the famous Dream speech and I actually see his status often at Washington’s Union Station since he was head of the trade union for the Train Porters. And I was reminded of just how recent some of this stuff was. I also learned about how vital women were especially to the Civil Rights Movement. We get to a better future IMO by being able to talk about the past without excuses.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 6:59:22am

re: #245 wrenchwench

Good point(s).

I remember when Ms. magazine had articles about ‘letting’ lesbians into the women’s movement. And not-very-flattering discussions (limited and one-sided) of women of color.

I once tried to get through my mother’s racism by appealing to her knowledge of the barriers she had to deal with as a woman (she was born in 50, so she knows about not being able to get a loan on her own). It didn’t work. She just couldn’t translate that to other people.

Trump being so brazen about it has broken through that, though.

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darthstar  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:00:02am

Caught this little guy yesterday and poached made filets with tomato and basil in foil for dinner. Look at the color on that thing.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:00:16am

re: #26 wrenchwench

Looks like FROG just came up the downspout. Return trip is usually easier.

It was after the itsy-bitsy spider no doubt.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:02:12am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

We get to a better future IMO by being able to talk about the past without excuses.

Indeed. In all its complexities. Including all the steps backward with all the steps forward. Can’t have one without the other.

Always allowing for fundamental change. It happens.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:03:37am

re: #251 wrenchwench

Indeed. In all its complexities. Including all the steps backward with all the steps forward. Can’t have one without the other.

Always allowing for fundamental change. It happens.

I think a lot of people don’t like talking seriously about the past because it makes them uncomfortable.But we need that conversation. It’s why I’m glad we have people like Professor Krase to call out Trump when he butchers history.

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darthstar  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:03:37am

re: #249 darthstar

The little bubble fin near the tail means it’s a wild salmon. Fishery salmon have that removed so they can track the fish - my brother’s salmon - about 15 lbs - had that removed and so when we came back to the docs two lovely young women from the dept of fisheries took it’s head (they have rfid chips so they can log where they were spawned, when, and where/when they were caught).

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:05:13am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:05:33am

re: #224 freetoken

Contemplating randomness… it may come as a bit of a surprise, but the idea of “random” is a troubling one, not as easy to pin down as one may expect.

This comes on the heels of my obsession with lotteries.

There is a bit of an addiction to the Law of Large Numbers, when it comes with trying to explain things.

Knowing the above is important because if one looks at the history of MegaMillions and PowerBall draws, one may think the numbers drawn are not random. Indeed, there are plenty of websites out there that try to convince people that the draws are not random but fit some sort of pattern (that is predictable, and if you only subscribe to the right service…)

The lotteries look like they are not random because some numbers have come up much more frequently than others, and even more disturbing is that certain pairs of numbers have come up together in a draw much more often than rest of the set of all pairs.

The troubling thing is that there is no way to prove that a lottery draw has to be “random”. By which I do not mean that a game is rigged by the lottery company.

This, btw, is, I suspect, why there are still people who hold hidden variable (or spin-offs thereof such as pilot-wave) beliefs when it comes to quantum mechanics.

We humans, it appears, believe that some event has to be caused by some prior event or events. This is the tact creationists often take when trying to trip up non-creationists.

I think part of this is that human brains are hard-wired from our evolutionary past to look for patterns in sets of random-ish input; e.g. “is that a predator profile in those leafy bushes over there?” So we seek to find patterns constantly.

And true random is *not* going to produce an even distribution of points. It is going to produce blotches and empty spaces because it’s random. And I think a lot of people don’t understand this, or think that it’s “wrong” somehow.*

* - And for the life of me I still don’t quite get how some people I know have uncanny luck with random devices like dice and cards. Though part of it is them knowing to some degree where to take risks that will give larger payoffs.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:07:21am

re: #248 Belafon

I once tried to get through my mother’s racism by appealing to her knowledge of the barriers she had to deal with as a woman (she was born in 50, so she knows about not being able to get a loan on her own). It didn’t work. She just couldn’t translate that to other people.

Trump being so brazen about it has broken through that, though.

Yep. It can be a scary thing to realize suddenly how bad things have always been for some people. And frustrating at what it takes (further destruction) to make that realization happen.

Persevere.

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mmmirele  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:07:33am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Indiana Bans Safest Second-Term Abortion Method, Because They Just Really Love Life (Wonkette)

Indiana’s governor just signed into law bills which ban the D+E method of abortion, which is the safest method in the second trimester.

You can’t even reason with these people. You can’t have a discussion with these people because they want to confine the discussion to the contours of the box their leather bound bibles come in.

I learned some things after my protest last Sunday at the allegedly pro-life church where the leadership wants the state to execute women who have abortions. One of the people out there giving me grief was a kid about 10 years old. Turns out he’s one of the pastor’s sons. So yeah, OF COURSE, he has the same stupid gotcha questions and crowing, he’s his father’s son. And I feel almost no remorse in telling him that his parents and pastor are lying to him about the age of the earth. I feel *some* remorse about telling the kid “shut up, adults are talking,” however.

Oh yeah, I found out that some of that pastor and church’s followers think I’m demon possessed. Wait, what? Well, when I go out there, my inner Aspie comes out to play (as in, I feel no compunction to act in a neurotypical manner as I am not trying to impress these people*) and this really bugs them. Apparently, the “fruit of the Spirit” doesn’t include interrupting fruitless lines of questioning and challenging their basic assumptions. That’s how they judge me. *shrug*

* as opposed to the job interview I had yesterday, where I had reminders on my desk to not let my inner Aspie out to play.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:08:25am

re: #249 darthstar

Caught this little guy yesterday and poached made filets with tomato and basil in foil for dinner. Look at the color on that thing.

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The color gets deeper in breeding season.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:09:01am

re: #250 Eventual Carrion

It was after the itsy-bitsy spider no doubt.

And staying away from the little old woman who swallowed a fly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:09:53am

re: #254 Belafon

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Rommel was considered a great general yet I have not seen a monument to him in Germany. Lee was never General Robert E. Lee, USA. And the reason we have Arlington Cemetery where thousands of American men and women are buried including my cousin is Lee’s treachery. The monuments exist for one reason only and that is to intimidate people who challenged the white supremacist hegemony. of the Jim Crow South. And if you don’t believe me, look at what was said when these sculptures and monuments were established. Look at the CSA’s own words. You can appreciate Lee’s contribution to military strategy just as many strategists acknowledge Rommel’s but you don’t celebrate a man woh took up arms against his country like that. My problem with the CSA statues remains pretty simple, its a fuck you to the thousands of Americans like my second great grandfather who did the right thing in our country’s darkest hour.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:12:53am

re: #253 darthstar

The little bubble fin near the tail means it’s a wild salmon. Fishery salmon have that removed so they can track the fish - my brother’s salmon - about 15 lbs - had that removed and so when we came back to the docs two lovely young women from the dept of fisheries took it’s head (they have rfid chips so they can log where they were spawned, when, and where/when they were caught).

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Those are Sockeye Salmon right?

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:13:08am

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why hasn’t Milo been deported?

Married to a US citizen.

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darthstar  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:20:22am

Headed up to wine country today with the missus, her mom, and one of her mom’s old teacher colleagues. Tried to make reservations for lunch but nothing on OpenTable was available until 2:30. So I went all Steam Punk and shit and called the first on our list of desires and got a booking at 11:30.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:20:48am

HA!

Noah loves dogs
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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:21:53am

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

Married to a US citizen.

Pretty sure it’s skin color. We’ve seen Latinx spouses get deported.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:22:13am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Rommel was considered a great general yet I have not seen a monument to him in Germany. Lee was never General Robert E. Lee, USA. And the reason we have Arlington Cemetery where thousands of American men and women are buried including my cousin is Lee’s treachery. The monuments exist for one reason only and that is to intimidate people who challenged the white supremacist hegemony. of the Jim Crow South. And if you don’t believe me, look at what was said when these sculptures and monuments were established. Look at the CSA’s own words. You can appreciate Lee’s contribution to military strategy just as many strategists acknowledge Rommel’s but you don’t celebrate a man who took up arms against his country like that. My problem with the CSA statues remains pretty simple, its a fuck you to the thousands of Americans like my second great grandfather who did the right thing in our country’s darkest hour.

Think about the type of character you are dealing with. Most of these white nationalist/supremacists types have this whack idea they can take on the government. They see themselves as rugged individuals fighting all the wrongs. That is why so many put on their bad-ass camo costumes and go about looking like militia.

So they for sure celebrate someone like Lee because to them Lee is the ultimate white guy because he fought to keep those slaves in their place and he fought against the big bad US government to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:24:12am

re: #266 ObserverArt

Think about the type of character you are dealing with. Most of these white nationalist/supremacists types have this whack idea they can take on the government. They see themselves as rugged individuals fighting all the wrongs. That is why so many put on their bad-ass camo costumes and go about looking like militia.

So they for sure celebrate someone like Lee because to them Lee is the ultimate white guy because he fought to keep those slaves in their place and he fought against the big bad US government to do it.

Thing is they go at elaborate lengths to deny Lee what eh was. They deny that Lee supported slavery. They deny that Lee had a choice in secession. They deny that he executed or put African-American soldiers into slavery. The Lee Mythos works because Lee is this mythical man of honor that never existed.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:24:45am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Thing is they go at elaborate lengths to deny Lee what eh was. They deny that Lee supported slavery. They deny that Lee had a choice in secession. They deny that he executed or put African-American soldiers into slavery. The Lee Mythos works because Lee is this mythical man of honor that never existed.

Like their Reagan.

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mmmirele  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:26:21am

re: #216 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Less than a mile southwest of the house I lived in from 1960 to 1968.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:26:46am

re: #268 Belafon

Like their Reagan.

Yep.

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:28:23am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

re: #266 ObserverArt

Think about the type of character you are dealing with. Most of these white nationalist/supremacists types have this whack idea they can take on the government. They see themselves as rugged individuals fighting all the wrongs. That is why so many put on their bad-ass camo costumes and go about looking like militia.

So they for sure celebrate someone like Lee because to them Lee is the ultimate white guy because he fought to keep those slaves in their place and he fought against the big bad US government to do it.

Honor culture in the south. They have been humiliated and won’t stand for it. This is a long term problem. They have not assimilated. They must change the narrative to regain their honor. Goes all the way back to herders in England and Scotland.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:28:26am

On another topic entirely, the “Campanile peregrines” have newborn chicks! (Link includes webcam.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:30:24am

re: #271 Old Liberal

Honor culture in the south. They have been humiliated and won’t stand for it. This is a long term problem. They have not assimilated. They must change the narrative to regain their honor. Goes all the way back to herders in England and Scotland.

Ivanhoe and Sir Walter Scott played a big role in that honor culture.

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:30:43am

re: #271 Old Liberal

Honor culture in the south. They have been humiliated and won’t stand for it. This is a long term problem. They have not assimilated. They must change the narrative to regain their honor. Goes all the way back to herders in England and Scotland.

Now the racists in the north find common cause with the racists in the south. Similar to how Catholics and fundamentalist have made common cause even though each believes the other is damned to hell. FUBAR

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:31:04am

re: #271 Old Liberal

Honor culture in the south. They have been humiliated and won’t stand for it. This is a long term problem. They have not assimilated. They must change the narrative to regain their honor. Goes all the way back to herders in England and Scotland.

And note that often their use of “south” is a shortened version of the “white south” that they actually mean.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:32:12am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the concept of a “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State” will continue to be ignored and left out of any discussion of gun control

But that’s the fault of the SCOTUS Heller decision. Once again modern Republican justices were party over country.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:33:30am

re: #275 Feline Fearless Leader

And note that often their use of “south” is a shortened version of the “white south” that they actually mean.

Working class gets used the same way.

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darthstar  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:37:19am

re: #261 ObserverArt

Those are Sockeye Salmon right?

King. But yeah, wild kings are almost as orange as sockeye.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:38:48am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Thing is they go at elaborate lengths to deny Lee what eh was. They deny that Lee supported slavery. They deny that Lee had a choice in secession. They deny that he executed or put African-American soldiers into slavery. The Lee Mythos works because Lee is this mythical man of honor that never existed.

That is all windows dressing spouted mostly by politicians as cover for the real deal.

I’m going to hold to my thinking that many of the people you are talking about say all that happy stuff you commented about, but scratch off that surface and you might find they are perfectly fine with all the Lee slavery and all the bad Lee did.

Why else are they so racist and so willing to display their symbols to intimidate people of color? It certainly is not about Lee’s military expertise or his honor because they wouldn’t act out as they do about the race issue.

I think a lot gets hidden in that southern gentlemen, southern niceties that is shown socially. But when the sun goes down and the sheets and hoods come out the reality of the pure racism is evident.

A lot of those fine old southern plantation are quite lovely up front. Fitting for a general like a Lee.

At the back of the property it was quite different.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:43:06am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe Ollie from experience in dealing with the NRA board knows that they don’t care about evidence and integrity.

Isn’t that true of any modern Republican?

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:44:10am

re: #278 darthstar

King. But yeah, wild kings are almost as orange as sockeye.

I thought King were more northern like Alaska and Sockeye were more North Pacific along the coast.

But anymore, who knows with climate change.

Still though, nice catch and I bet a fine dinner.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:46:23am

re: #279 ObserverArt

That is all windows dressing spouted mostly by politicians as cover for the real deal.

I’m going to hold to my thinking that many of the people you are talking about say all that happy stuff you commented about, but scratch off that surface and you might find they are perfectly fine with all the Lee slavery and all the bad Lee did.

Why else are they so racist and so willing to display their symbols to intimidate people of color? It certainly is not about Lee’s military expertise or his honor because they wouldn’t act out as they do about the race issue.

I think a lot gets hidden in that southern gentlemen, southern niceties that is shown socially. But when the sun goes down and the sheets and hoods come out the reality of the pure racism is evident.

A lot of those fine old southern plantation are quite lovely up front. Fitting for a general like a Lee.

At the back of the property it was quite different.

At the Hermitage (Andrew Jackson’s residence) they have restored slave quarters on display along with some information about them there to see.

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William Lewis  Apr 27, 2019 • 7:51:05am

re: #220 DangerMan

yesterday: not a good day

today:

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Bob Mould and Dave Grohl - New Day Rising (Husker Du Tribute) 2011

:D

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:00:17am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:08:57am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I was listening to a podcast I discovered Wonderly’s American History Tellers since a friend recommended me one of their podcasts about sports. They had one on the Civil Rights Movement and it correctly IMO started in WWII with the efforts by A. Phillip Randolph to desegregate the defense industries. Randolph is someone I think often forgotten even though he was the one who organized the march where MLK gave the famous Dream speech and I actually see his status often at Washington’s Union Station since he was head of the trade union for the Train Porters. And I was reminded of just how recent some of this stuff was. I also learned about how vital women were especially to the Civil Rights Movement. We get to a better future IMO by being able to talk about the past without excuses.

Grandma and Grandpa knew Randolph and other brothers and sisters in the CIO organizing movement such as Ernie DeMaio, Father Charles Owen Rice, Sidney Hillman, Darlington Hoopes, John L Lewis and The Reuther Brothers. Randloph was a big help in bringing African-Americans into the Steelworkers Union by helping Grandpa get a no discrimination policy implemented.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:18:46am
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:21:06am

re: #106 Dave In Austin

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:22:26am
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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:23:50am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

Number two picks have to stick together.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:26:39am

re: #126 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Border walls work so well we’re adding a second wall.

Walls all the way down

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:26:58am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

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Not defending but another thing drumpf does is reward those who kiss his ring. Find a black person who will worship him and he’ll compliment them. Narcissistic asshole first racist bigot second?

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:31:06am

So I put up a delusion poll at FB.
How many people will delude themselves with this particular bit of wishful thinking?

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:33:29am

re: #292 Unshaken Defiance

Add a question: “Do you believe Donald Trump can walk 18 holes?”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:38:46am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

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This is so typical of him.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:42:57am

re: #289 jaunte

Number two picks have to stick together.

Yeah, sticking together. This is why Trump loves him.

Nick Bosa is a block head. I hear he also made comments about Beyonce’s music, and some homophobic stuff too. It’s probably good he left Ohio State early this past football season. Had some of his teammates heard this they might have kicked his ass.

You can eliminate the tweets, but the thoughts and the person is still there.

ESPN - Bosa contrite over 2016 Kaepernick ‘clown’ tweet

SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Acknowledging the irony that he will begin his NFL career with the same team that used to employ the quarterback he once called “a clown” on Twitter, new San Francisco 49ers defensive end Nick Bosa expressed remorse for that post about Colin Kaepernick on Friday afternoon.

Bosa called Kaepernick a clown on Twitter in August of 2016, a tweet that was deleted in the run-up to Thursday’s draft as part of a scrubbing of potentially controversial posts from his social media.

In his introductory news conference with the Bay Area media on Friday, Bosa said that the tweet wasn’t meant to be a statement on Kaepernick’s social justice efforts and apologized.

“It wasn’t directed towards (Kaepernick’s stance),” Bosa said. “It’s not like I’m saying his stance and what he was doing, that’s not what I was calling or talking about at all. It was just a specific thing that happened and me as a young kid a thought popping in my head and boom, decided to tweet it out. Bad decision. I respect what he’s done. If it empowers anybody then he’s doing a good thing. So, I apologize for that.”

Bosa’s approach to social media came under scrutiny in the past few months for tweets like the one aimed at Kaepernick and others that garnered attention for his conservative-leaning political views and support of President Donald Trump.

…more at link…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:46:14am

Possible 4-8 inches of snow today. Springtime in Chicago area!

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:47:28am
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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 8:52:47am

re: #292 Unshaken Defiance

So I put up a delusion poll at FB.
How many people will delude themselves with this particular bit of wishful thinking?

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Now ask the related question: Is it too old?

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:06:40am

re: #295 ObserverArt

Yeah, sticking together. This is why Trump loves him.

Nick Bosa is a block head. I hear he also made comments about Beyonce’s music, and some homophobic stuff too. It’s probably good he left Ohio State early this past football season. Had some of his teammates heard this they might have kicked his ass.

You can eliminate the tweets, but the thoughts and the person is still there.

ESPN - Bosa contrite over 2016 Kaepernick ‘clown’ tweet

This Bosa statement is gobbledygook. No wonder the bonehead supports drumpf. Same idiocy.

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:09:39am

re: #299 Old Liberal

“I definitely made some insensitive decisions throughout my life and I’m just excited to be here with a clean slate,” Bosa said. “I’m sorry if I hurt anybody. I definitely didn’t intend for that to be the case but I think me being here is even better for me as a person because I don’t think there’s any city that you could really be in that would help you grow as much as this one will.

What self-oriented bullshit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:10:26am

re: #298 Belafon

Good point, too old for President? Hell yes. Biden and Trump. This might have been Trumps most obvious lie. And a willingness to lie to themselves is a Trumper must. Nobody is actually youing past retirement age except in a relative to surviving elders sense.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:12:15am

Bosa is still young so he could mature but holy shit if there’s not double standards that exist in the NFL.

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wrenchwench  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:14:52am

re: #288 jaunte

[1st, it’s Border PATROL]

1st point five, it’s Border PROTECTION.

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sagehen  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:22:26am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

And I was reminded of just how recent some of this stuff was. I also learned about how vital women were especially to the Civil Rights Movement. We get to a better future IMO by being able to talk about the past without excuses.

Definition of (or proof of) HOW RECENT:

John Lewis.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:25:16am

re: #304 sagehen

Definition of (or proof of) HOW RECENT:

John Lewis.

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Exactly. This isn’t ancient history.

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:26:56am

re: #300 jaunte

What self-oriented bullshit.

Magical clean slate creator unearned

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:29:55am

re: #306 Old Liberal

“I’m glad we’ve all agreed to move on and celebrate my fresh start.”

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:37:27am

re: #307 jaunte

“I’m glad we’ve all agreed to move on and celebrate my fresh start.”

God I hate PR people. 100% bullshit generation. So transparently false.

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sagehen  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:37:27am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Why else are they so racist and so willing to display their symbols to intimidate people of color? It certainly is not about Lee’s military expertise or his honor because they wouldn’t act out as they do about the race issue.

150 years, 5 generations, and Confederates are still not as assimilated as Nicaraguans who came here in the 1980’s.

They retain their first loyalty to a country that only existed for less time than I was at college. Less time than Breaking Bad was on the air.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:38:17am

Uh oh!

Dope Pusher Oliver North is OUT at the NRA

National Rifle Association President Oliver North told NRA members on Saturday he will not be renominated president of the group following a dispute with its CEO Wayne LaPierre.

The announcement was made in a letter read Saturday during the NRA convention being held in Indianapolis, NRA officials confirmed to CNN.

North said in the letter that he hoped he would be renominated for a second term but, “I am now informed that will not happen,” according to a video of the letter being read. There was a vote scheduled for Sunday to choose the president.

cnn.com

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:39:22am

re: #310 Joe Bacon 🌹

Uh oh!

Dope Pusher Oliver North is OUT at the NRA

National Rifle Association President Oliver North told NRA members on Saturday he will not be renominated president of the group following a dispute with its CEO Wayne LaPierre.

The announcement was made in a letter read Saturday during the NRA convention being held in Indianapolis, NRA officials confirmed to CNN.

North said in the letter that he hoped he would be renominated for a second term but, “I am now informed that will not happen,” according to a video of the letter being read. There was a vote scheduled for Sunday to choose the president.

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Pit of vipers

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:43:05am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Bosa is still young so he could mature but holy shit if there’s not double standards that exist in the NFL.

I did read that Bosa did his press conference by himself, without the SF team president, so that he could respond to questions about his older comments.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:46:35am

re: #310 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #311 Old Liberal

I was reading it’s a fight about misused millions paid to North for a show that has only coughed up a few episodes to air. RW money machine hit a speed bump. A Russian speedbump. The NRA will not be a able to re orient on gun owners and hunters for support after the Russian affair. Already only single digit membership, going down. Shallow well has no water.

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Old Liberal  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:47:02am

re: #312 Belafon

I did read that Bosa did his press conference by himself, without the SF team president, so that he could respond to questions about his older comments.

He’s got a PR flack and agent wiping him. Until demonstrated otherwise, he just another entitled bigoted white boy in my book. Hope he becomes half as useful socially as JJ Watt.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:52:26am

re: #314 Old Liberal

He’s got a PR flack and agent wiping him. Until demonstrated otherwise, he just another entitled bigoted white boy in my book. Hope he becomes half as useful socially as JJ Watt.

So does LeBron James. The guy has to prove himself, for sure, but that’s kind of standard practice.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:53:44am

washingtonpost.com

This is why I want nothing to do with churches.

From 2011 to 2016, white evangelicals dramatically changed their minds about the importance of politicians’ private behavior

Back in 2016, many journalists and commentators pointed out a stunning change in how white evangelicals perceived the connection between private and public morality. In 2011, a poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Religion News Service found that 60 percent of white evangelicals believed that a public official who “commits an immoral act in their personal life” cannot still “behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life.” But in an October 2016 poll by PRRI and the Brookings Institution — after the release of the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape — only 20 percent of evangelicals, answering the same question, said that private immorality meant someone could not behave ethically in public.

Have white evangelicals made an allowance only for Trump, or have they reconsidered their opinions on private and public morality more broadly? We tested this with two other versions of the same question. One starts with, “Many supporters of Donald Trump have argued,” followed by the identical statement about an elected official who commits a privately immoral act. The other harks back to the Monica Lewsinky scandal that led to Bill Clinton’s impeachment. “When he was president, many supporters of Bill Clinton argued …” To avoid the possibility of one question affecting responses to the others, respondents were randomly assigned to receive only one of the three variations: the “generic,” Trump, or Clinton version.

White evangelicals had a substantially different reaction when asked about Trump or Clinton. When primed to think about Trump, only 6 percent of them say that an elected official who acts immorally in private is incapable of being ethical in public life. But when Bill Clinton is mentioned, that rises to 27 percent — a 21-point increase.

This is why millions of people walked out of churches and they will NEVER go back!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:54:47am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is why I want nothing to do with churches.

From 2011 to 2016, white evangelicals dramatically changed their minds about the importance of politicians’ private behavior

Back in 2016, many journalists and commentators pointed out a stunning change in how white evangelicals perceived the connection between private and public morality. In 2011, a poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Religion News Service found that 60 percent of white evangelicals believed that a public official who “commits an immoral act in their personal life” cannot still “behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life.” But in an October 2016 poll by PRRI and the Brookings Institution — after the release of the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape — only 20 percent of evangelicals, answering the same question, said that private immorality meant someone could not behave ethically in public.

Have white evangelicals made an allowance only for Trump, or have they reconsidered their opinions on private and public morality more broadly? We tested this with two other versions of the same question. One starts with, “Many supporters of Donald Trump have argued,” followed by the identical statement about an elected official who commits a privately immoral act. The other harks back to the Monica Lewsinky scandal that led to Bill Clinton’s impeachment. “When he was president, many supporters of Bill Clinton argued …” To avoid the possibility of one question affecting responses to the others, respondents were randomly assigned to receive only one of the three variations: the “generic,” Trump, or Clinton version.

White evangelicals had a substantially different reaction when asked about Trump or Clinton. When primed to think about Trump, only 6 percent of them say that an elected official who acts immorally in private is incapable of being ethical in public life. But when Bill Clinton is mentioned, that rises to 27 percent — a 21-point increase.

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This is why millions of people walked out of churches and they will NEVER go back!

They’re so full of shit.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2019 • 9:57:23am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

washingtonpost.com

This is why I want nothing to do with churches.

From 2011 to 2016, white evangelicals dramatically changed their minds about the importance of politicians’ private behavior

Back in 2016, many journalists and commentators pointed out a stunning change in how white evangelicals perceived the connection between private and public morality. In 2011, a poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Religion News Service found that 60 percent of white evangelicals believed that a public official who “commits an immoral act in their personal life” cannot still “behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life.” But in an October 2016 poll by PRRI and the Brookings Institution — after the release of the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape — only 20 percent of evangelicals, answering the same question, said that private immorality meant someone could not behave ethically in public.

Have white evangelicals made an allowance only for Trump, or have they reconsidered their opinions on private and public morality more broadly? We tested this with two other versions of the same question. One starts with, “Many supporters of Donald Trump have argued,” followed by the identical statement about an elected official who commits a privately immoral act. The other harks back to the Monica Lewsinky scandal that led to Bill Clinton’s impeachment. “When he was president, many supporters of Bill Clinton argued …” To avoid the possibility of one question affecting responses to the others, respondents were randomly assigned to receive only one of the three variations: the “generic,” Trump, or Clinton version.

White evangelicals had a substantially different reaction when asked about Trump or Clinton. When primed to think about Trump, only 6 percent of them say that an elected official who acts immorally in private is incapable of being ethical in public life. But when Bill Clinton is mentioned, that rises to 27 percent — a 21-point increase.

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This is why millions of people walked out of churches and they will NEVER go back!

More proof that white evangelicalism is just racism with Sunday morning services.

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Jay C  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:00:48am

re: #318 Belafon

ADD:

More proof that white evangelicalism is just racism and Republican politics with Sunday morning services.

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William Lewis  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:03:13am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

Important data in there. Thank you.

Our parish is looking for a new priest and the diocese helped the search committee put together a survey of the congregation. I got the link just the other day so it’s not going to be done till next week but with many things like that in mind here were a couple of my answers to questions on it. Behind private for easy ignoring.

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:10:06am
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sagehen  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:12:04am

re: #318 Belafon

More proof that white evangelicalism is just racism with Sunday morning services.

White evangelicalism is also jell-o with marshmallows in it, potato salad with no spices, and Amy Grant.

Black evangelicalism is BBQ, Aretha Franklin, and impressive hats.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:15:52am

My cat seems to be taking her nap very seriously. Grumpy if startled awake.

Pepper nap
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jaunte  Apr 27, 2019 • 10:44:12am
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plansbandc  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:05:48am

re: #320 William Lewis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:25:47am

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

Married to a US citizen.

anchor husband…

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:29:11am

…of course he does.

Covering up war crimes?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:39:40am
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Amory Blaine  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:44:57am

Killing time at the airport in Las Vegas because of course the one time I fly in years there’s a fucking snowstorm hitting Milwaukee. 4-7 inches. One week from may. Bonus content:

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Charles Johnson  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:45:43am
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plansbandc  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:47:17am

You guys were right. Into the Spider-verse is fantastic!

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William Lewis  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:54:19am

re: #331 plansbandc

You guys were right. Into the Spider-verse is fantastic!

Best film of 2018, far as I was concerned.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:54:43am

re: #328 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
* 6h
Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

I saw this tweet earlier, but seeing it again and all I can think of is Bosa came from Ohio State University, the same college that named its track and field facilities after OSU and internationally respected great Jesse Owens.

Yes, Jesse Owens the black athlete who won four gold medals in track events at the 1936 Olympics held in Berlin much to the dismay of one Adolph Hitler who was sure his supreme Germans were going to win everything.

And here is Trump ignoring to mention a black athlete who was number one in the NFL draft to focus on Nick Bosa most likely because Trump likes some of the comments made by Bosa an admitted Trump supporter.

What a strange twist of politics and sports.

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ObserverArt  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:56:12am

re: #329 Amory Blaine

Killing time at the airport in Las Vegas because of course the one time I fly in years there’s a fucking snowstorm hitting Milwaukee. 4-7 inches. One week from may. Bonus content:

Looks like the little guy is happy to see you.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:58:10am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

washingtonpost.com

This is why I want nothing to do with churches.

From 2011 to 2016, white evangelicals dramatically changed their minds about the importance of politicians’ private behavior

[snip]

White evangelicals had a substantially different reaction when asked about Trump or Clinton. When primed to think about Trump, only 6 percent of them say that an elected official who acts immorally in private is incapable of being ethical in public life. But when Bill Clinton is mentioned, that rises to 27 percent — a 21-point increase.

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This is why millions of people walked out of churches and they will NEVER go back!

Catholics were the most consistent in condemnation of the groups identified it seems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 27, 2019 • 11:59:18am

Dogs AND music!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:08:49pm

re: #335 Eventual Carrion

Catholics were the most consistent in condemnation of the groups identified it seems.

There’s a lot I don’t like about the RCC hierarchy but they have consistently condemned both legalized abortion and capital punishment. The Evangelical right are just a bunch of hypocrites.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:11:18pm

re: #318 Belafon

More proof that white evangelicalism is just racism with Sunday morning services.

Those numbers are still pretty small — 73% of evangelicals, it seems, consistently say that private conduct doesn’t necessarily determine public morality.

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William Lewis  Apr 27, 2019 • 12:17:10pm

re: #329 Amory Blaine

Killing time at the airport in Las Vegas because of course the one time I fly in years there’s a fucking snowstorm hitting Milwaukee. 4-7 inches. One week from may. Bonus content:

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