Seth Meyers: Trump Releases Damning Ukraine Memo Amid Impeachment Inquiry
Seth takes a closer look at the damning memo from President Trump’s call with the leader of Ukraine and the House opening a formal impeachment inquiry.
Seth takes a closer look at the damning memo from President Trump’s call with the leader of Ukraine and the House opening a formal impeachment inquiry.
MSNBC has reported there are now 220 votes for impeachment. In the end, almost all Democrats plus at least Justin Amash will vote to impeach.
I’m starting to see reports that the whistle blower complaint is being declassified.
Here we go folks https://t.co/dclhqdLxSb
— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) September 26, 2019
#Breaking: Two sources confirm to CNN that the whistleblower’s report concerning @realDonaldTrump’s phone conversations with the Ukrainian president, has been declassified. However, the report will not be released at least until Thursday morning.
—@DanaBashCNN reports https://t.co/G9ljLFP2fc— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) September 26, 2019
Here’s…something.
I think I found the link to the #WhistleblowerComplaint https://t.co/gdgFidKibn
— Jeffrey Skinner-Perkins (@skinner_perkins) September 26, 2019
From the last thread, since my Kingdom Hearts mobile-game raiding kept me from responding in time:
re: #119 Belafon
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Donny is done. The GOP will eventually realize that and help remove him from office.
— John Norton (@DCJohnNorton) September 25, 2019
>>>now that it semi-officially means #PresidentPelosi, but unfortunately, the ONLY alternative now is that we’re an elective monarchy whenever the Senate and the Oval are controlled by the same party!
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
“I love the Ukraine. Last time I was there I snorted cocaine out of a dead hookers asshole. It’s OK, she was already dead when I got there.”
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 26, 2019
From two threads ago, which I left on the last thread, which is already dead:
re: #366 Ace Rothstein
He lost Ben Sasse.
I’m not sure yet.
That said, Sen. Sasse is facing a lot of angry farmers and ranchers for his reëlection campaign, and the Democrats here are pounding the message that Sasse supported Trump’s tariffs and lied to them that support would help Nebraska agriculture.
Moreover, we really have pitchforks here to go after candidates with.
That doesn’t mean a bunch of R voters will suddenly vote D. But if they choose not to vote or vote for whoever runs on the Libertarian ticket here, that will be enough to oust Sasse.
Quiniappac poll shows Warren leading Biden nationally and in Ca, Ia and NH.
re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Quiniappac poll shows Warren leading Biden nationally and in Ca, Ia and NH.
Great. Now we just have to ensure that Bernie—doesn’t drop out? Since theoretically enough of his supporters have shown in polls that they’re misogynist enough to shift their vote to Biden before her?
This is the way we used to do calls with Russian leaders. (Obama is at his desk on the line with Medvedev.) pic.twitter.com/FGv13Ron2H
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) September 26, 2019
Shade cast.
re: #12 Dread Pirate
Meanwhile, Trump on the phone with a foreign leader would look like a three stooges act.
News: the attorneys representing the whistleblower have posted a gofundme link for the whistleblower. As of 11:45 PM tonight there has been $8k raised. Let’s change that: https://t.co/ynQZWlaO3m
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 26, 2019
I’ve noticed that as the hours have gone by, the number of Repubs saying that Pelosi “jumped the gun” on impeachment before seeing the transcript has only decreased.
From my searching “elected monarchy” on Twitter:
Also you may not believe me and you may not accept it( maybe you do agree?) But there is really one thing I see it coming down to. Our right as citizens to bear firearms. Let me explain, because this goes far back. All the way to the Constitution. 1/2
— William Graham (@William43622068) September 25, 2019
and my response:
Bloody—I would have hit the char limit if that had fully made sense. I edited as I was typing and didn’t notice when adding “anything they can afford” that I’d forgotten to also add “up to and including”.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
re: #15 Targetpractice
I’ve noticed that as the hours have gone by, the number of Repubs saying that Pelosi “jumped the gun” on impeachment before seeing the transcript has only decreased.
And the transcript is only the tip of the iceberg. A storm is coming. I wonder if a Trump insider told him the transcript would “totally exonerate” him knowing it wouldn’t, because how deluded do you have to be to think that?
re: #11 Chrysicat
Great. Now we just have to ensure that Bernie—doesn’t drop out? Since theoretically enough of his supporters have shown in polls that they’re misogynist enough to shift their vote to Biden before her?
We’ve still got quite a bit of time. I don’t see Bernie dropping out, but if he does, I still think she’ll come out ahead. I think she’s been pulling as much from him as from Biden.
re: #4 makeitstop
re: #6 makeitstop
Yeah, not the complaint itself, but pretty solid write up of why this complaint doesn’t fall into the “urgent concern” category of complaints. Something else that Congress is going to have to fix - requiring all whistleblower complaints to be transmitted to them in a timely manner and not just “urgent concern.”
re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!
MSNBC has reported there are now 220 votes for impeachment. In the end, almost all Democrats plus at least Justin Amash will vote to impeach.
Tulsi Gabbard is the Joe Manchin of House Democrats. j/k, she is worse.
re: #18 Belafon
We’ve still got quite a bit of time. I don’t see Bernie dropping out, but if he does, I still think she’ll come out ahead. I think she’s been pulling as much from him as from Biden.
Interesting question as to what effect impeachment may have on the race.
If Trump is suddenly removed from the equation, how might that change the opinions of voters?
I’m still very skeptical of the GOP actually getting on board with removing him, but between the complaint coming out tomorrow and the DCI’s testimony, who fucking knows.
re: #20 BlueSpotinAL
Tulsi Gabbard is the Joe Manchin of House Democrats. j/k, she is worse.
Manchin, you can at least understand that tradition of blue dog Dems. Gabbard… I haven’t quite figured out what she’s about.
re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!
MSNBC has reported there are now 220 votes for impeachment. In the end, almost all Democrats plus at least Justin Amash will vote to impeach.
What really sucks for the Repubs? There’s no immediate rush not to keep playing this out and seeing where it goes. Maguire testifies in less than 9 hrs, and the WB has now agreed to testify as well. And there’s already plans forming to haul Barr back in for more questions. Before the vote actually happens, we could see vulnerable Repubs in blue/purple districts beginning to feel the heat to jump aboard.
re: #16 Chrysicat
Great, now my affectations to show that I don’t approve of where I’m literally stuck are setting people’s Putindar off.
Born just outside SJ, California; spent the first four years of my life in L.A. and the rest of it in two houses 13 miles apart in suburbs south of Denver. The language is an intentional affectation as protest to the Websterian spellings that are uniquely-American>>>
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
So are you now satisfied I’m NOT IN the “other” St. Petersburg and hoping I go back to being in Leningrad?
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
And yes, I’m aware “Denver is neither”. I’m also aware most of that would play well with the folks in The Springs and the white supremacism would probably be appealing in Pueblo and Greeley, but the metro area raises its kids to be further left socially.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
re: #21 KGxvi
Interesting question as to what effect impeachment may have on the race.
If Trump is suddenly removed from the equation, how might that change the opinions of voters?
I’m still very skeptical of the GOP actually getting on board with removing him, but between the complaint coming out tomorrow and the DCI’s testimony, who fucking knows.
I think it would spell disaster for the GOP. The Trump base would think that Pence staged a coup against their dear leader, and GOP candidates would get slaughtered up and down the ticket. They are riding a tiger; if they try to get off, it will eat them.
re: #22 KGxvi
Manchin, you can at least understand that tradition of blue dog Dems. Gabbard… I haven’t quite figured out what she’s about.
Joe Manchin appears to be sincere in his own way. I do wonder if Tulsi has a handler.
re: #25 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I think it would spell disaster for the GOP. The Trump base would think that Pence staged a coup against their dear leader, and GOP candidates would get slaughtered up and down the ticket. They are riding a tiger; if they try to get off, it will eat them.
I meant more within the context of the Democratic primary.
But yes, the GOP would be an utter mess. Pence would face the proposition of either pulling an LBJ and refusing to run or accept the nomination, or face a Ford scenario where he’s challenged in the primary (and I suspect it wouldn’t just be one) and then getting beat in the general.
re: #23 Targetpractice
What really sucks for the Repubs? There’s no immediate rush not to keep playing this out and seeing where it goes. Maguire testifies in less than 9 hrs, and the WB has now agreed to testify as well. And there’s already plans forming to haul Barr back in for more questions. Before the vote actually happens, we could see vulnerable Repubs in blue/purple districts beginning to feel the heat to jump aboard.
Also, it now looks like the complaint has been declassified and will be released tomorrow. The Goldwater-Nixon meeting may happen by Friday.
From my understanding: Manafort was calling the shots to WH via his joint legal defense team to go after Ukrainians who he believed exposed him, idea was to also create the narrative of “Dem collusion with Ukraine” to provide political cover for Trump to pardon Manafort 1/
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) September 26, 2019
This is the part that was most interesting to me: The part where Fruity and Trump feel they need to “reassure” Manafort that he’ll get a pardon, like they have to keep him happy. Why? 🤔 3/ pic.twitter.com/PMJr185Pc0
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) September 26, 2019
Sooooooo…based on the article, at least, this past week is just a sliver of a longer-term effort involving Manafort, his revenge against perceived enemies in Ukraine, Trump wanting to pardon him (presumably so he won’t blab), and Rudy having no idea what the hell he’d doing END pic.twitter.com/BKF64tnZkp
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) September 26, 2019
re: #28 KGxvi
Also, it now looks like the complaint has been declassified and will be released tomorrow. The Goldwater-Nixon meeting may happen by Friday.
Except that as pointed out, that was announced by a House Freedumb Caucus member. They have to think they’ve redacted it in such a way as to make Trump smell like a rose, or at the very least are prepared to make an ad-hom attack on the whistleblower for his ties to our side.
re: #31 Chrysicat
Per CNN:
“Yes, it has been declassified with minimal redactions but not yet released to the public,” a separate source familiar with the process told CNN. “We expect that to happen in the morning.”
Given the way things have blown up in their faces already, they’d be stupid to go the heavy redaction all is fine here route. But then again, these guys have been dumber than a box of rocks, so…
Y’know, for all of his delusions of being a dime store mafioso, Donny seems to have forgotten or never learned the cardinal rule of being in the mafia: You don’t discuss business in front of those who aren’t family or trusted by family. It was what finally put Gotti away, the feeling that he was so invulnerable that he started blabbing about his business out where people who didn’t need to know could hear.
As Austin Blue and I noted Monday, there was a big surge in Russian toll/bot activity 24 hours BEFORE Pelosi announced the impeachment go-ahead. I am wondering if they had advance notice. A mole among Congressional Democrats?
re: #33 Targetpractice
Trump is too stupid to sweep the cheese from Silvio’s feet without pissing him off.
re: #15 Targetpractice
I’ve noticed that as the hours have gone by, the number of Repubs saying that Pelosi “jumped the gun” on impeachment before seeing the transcript has only decreased.
They are prairie-dogging, ducking down in their burrows until the next Congressional recess so that they can go back to their Districts, pop up out of their holes and see which way the wind is blowing. Many in suburban Districts around big cities in red/purple states will be molto nervoso.
All they want to do is keep their jobs. What happens next is all on them. The Senate will pay very close attention to those R-suburban Reps. If they vote to impeach, they could send a signal that the old bastard is a liability to them all and force the Senate to get rid of Mango Metamusellini, especially if it could cost Moscow Mitch *his* job.
re: #30 TedStriker
She’s a conservative Republican that went Dem to get elected in a state that, since 1959, has only elected a small handful of GOP Reps or Senators.
On the Issues has her as a libertarian leaning progressive, which probably isn’t too far off where I am (I’d flip the terms and say I’m a progressive leaning libertarian, but that’s splitting hairs). But I really question her foreign policy more than anything.
re: #29 Dread Pirate
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No; because the Rs see it as necessary to hold the WH until SCOTUS can be suitably set up as to declare that even the Civil Rights Act needed an amendment and Jim Crow can be invited back publicly, he wants to make the Senate see the WH as “too corrupt as a whole to take down”.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
There was a viral video a couple of years ago where a drunk white man berated and threatened a Puerto Rican woman for wearing a shirt with PR flag.
There is now an ending: chicagotribune.com
The man was convicted on counts of hate crime. While I feel it’s a harsh sentence for a 60+ old man, it was the right decision. Things could have escalated too far.
re: #36 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
As Austin Blue and I noted Monday, there was a big surge in Russian toll/bot activity 24 hours BEFORE Pelosi announced the impeachment go-ahead. I am wondering if they had advance notice. A mole among Congressional Democrats?
It’s just coincidence that Tulsi sneezed repeatedly as that got posted, I swear!
Lmaooooo oh no some politicians are saying mean things, guess he should’ve illegally leaked the info instead then fled into the arms of an enemy state https://t.co/7fcYOvnLzH
— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) September 25, 2019
re: #36 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
As Austin Blue and I noted Monday, there was a big surge in Russian toll/bot activity 24 hours BEFORE Pelosi announced the impeachment go-ahead. I am wondering if they had advance notice. A mole among Congressional Democrats?
This is what happens when you get two Texas political junkies getting down in the weeds looking for Weird Shit That Is Happening. Results!
Proper, Shiplord, proper. Well done us.
re: #43 Targetpractice
“Too Corrupt To Fail” is one hell of a campaign slogan.
Alternative slogans:
- Re-elect me or the country gets it!
- Fuck you, I got mine
- Let them rule a city of ash!
Did this guy seriously just say after he started it on PoliTwitter that I should really keep my discourse at a fifth-grade reading level?
I…honestly can’t. It’s physically painful to try to shrink my vocabulary enough and were i to try I’d prolly still wind up throwing in a five-dollar word without knowing it’s not in the Twitionary.
It’s just really difficult trying to understand what your trying to say
— William Graham (@William43622068) September 26, 2019
re: #34 Ace Rothstein
Is it too late at night to say FUCK TRUMP?
Never too late or too early.
Cat beat me to it.
re: #47 Chrysicat
Did this guy seriously just say after he started it on PoliTwitter that I should really keep my discourse at a fifth-grade reading level?
I…honestly can’t. It’s physically painful to try to shrink my vocabulary enough and were i to try I’d prolly still wind up throwing in a five-dollar word without knowing it’s not in the Twitionary.
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That, dear one, is a Sergei bot from St. Petersberg, from Russia, with love. Kind of a troll/sea lion clone, but a Sergei. Airlock him and be done with it.
re: #36 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
As Austin Blue and I noted Monday, there was a big surge in Russian toll/bot activity 24 hours BEFORE Pelosi announced the impeachment go-ahead. I am wondering if they had advance notice. A mole among Congressional Democrats?
Is that 24 hours before the official announcement or 24 hours before the announcement that she was going to announce, which was 24 hours before the announcement? Even if it’s the latter, Dems were starting to coalesce around the Ukraine story. The bots could have just matched that.
re: #41 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))
There was a viral video a couple of years ago where a drunk white man berated and threatened a Puerto Rican woman for wearing a shirt with PR flag.
There is now an ending: chicagotribune.com
The man was convicted on counts of hate crime. While I feel it’s a harsh sentence for a 60+ old man, it was the right decision. Things could have escalated too far.
If you don’t get drunk and go all racist on an innocent woman who was doing you absolutely no harm, you don’t get arrested. Or indicted. Or tried. Or convicted. Or sentenced to prison.
This is not rocket science. Don’t be a drunken racist asshole.
#NowPlaying Little Barrie > Better Call Saul Main Title Theme (Extended) https://t.co/1C7Nx8kL6G
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 24, 2019
re: #50 Belafon
Is that 24 hours before the official announcement or 24 hours before the announcement that she was going to announce, which was 24 hours before the announcement? Even if it’s the latter, Dems were starting to coalesce around the Ukraine story. The bots could have just matched that.
Well that was a Monday posting, when we noticed that the Sergei’s were in full troll mode. The timeline was pretty clear. ICIG notes the notification late last week, WH says Fake News!, St. Peterberg starts to gin up a response to it on Friday. Sergei’s, who are civil servants, get drunk and watch football on Saturday and Sunday, and respond on Monday. Pretty basic response on their part.
I dare say the media have improved a lot . also Trump shills working with idiotic talking points at a disadvantage when presented with facts https://t.co/iv075LRuM6 via @mediaite
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) September 26, 2019
re: #54 Dread Pirate
Fox News says, “Hold my beer.”
Fox’s pro-Trump hosts are completely out of control. https://t.co/z14v3Qzplp
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) September 26, 2019
re: #54 Dread Pirate
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The amount of flop sweat being generated in the last two days out of the WH is sweet, sweet honey to be enjoyed at our leisure. They have lost the narrative and are merely lashing out in panic. Their boyo is fucked and there is little that can stop that train when it has a full head of steam. We’ll see what polls show in the next two weeks, but this is going to resonate with the Independents, bigly. I doubt it will move the base that much, but the undecided vote will be the primary factor in how the R’s respond when the inevitable Articles of Impeachment are sent to the Senate.
re: #55 Dread Pirate
Seems that the low-level civil war between the pro/anti-Trump factions at FNC has gone hot.
Let them fight.
re: #57 Dr Lizardo
Seems that the low-level civil war between the pro/anti-Trump factions at FNC has gone hot.
Let them fight.
re: #58 Targetpractice
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Heh. I suspect that infighting is only going to intensify in the weeks ahead, especially once the inevitable impeachment hearings in the HJC are scheduled.
SNL’s new season starts this week.
They’re delighted it’s this week. The writers haven’t been home in days; they’re very very busy.
re: #55 Dread Pirate
Fox News says, “Hold my beer.”
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Reality says, “That’s a mug full of warm piss. Your show horse just broke both front legs and is inside a tent on the track and the vet just arrived.”
Oh, screw it. I’ll try to post the thread in proper order in a new post.
Unusual, light scattered showers around here. The SD radar is down, but the Yuma radar shows a low pressure system sitting over the northern end of the Gulf of California, rotating storms counter clockwise. Looks like heavy showers in the mountains, but just sprinkles here.
Still, the remaining loquat trees will appreciate any moisture as they are growing their racemes, ready to bloom in a month or two.
JUST IN: An adviser to Ukraine’s president tells ABC News that Trump’s insistence for the two leaders to discuss a possible investigation into Joe Biden was a precondition for their now-infamous July 25 phone call. https://t.co/ah8VHMb5z5
— Axios (@axios) September 25, 2019
re: #62 Chrysicat
Let’s try that again, shall we? Maybe even using Preview this time:
That means that many of them lived WELL past the rise of political parties in the US, when it should have become obvious that it would be possible for a President to rule by decree if his party refused to convict on impeachment.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
Either the US isn’t meant to function as a single nation-state, or its constitution is designed to elect a sovereign as long as the Senate shares their political party.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
Or we could expect Rs to actually put constitution before party, but our realistic choice is that we’re electing a king or queen now.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
re: #64 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Unusual, light scattered showers around here. The SD radar is down, but the Yuma radar shows a low pressure system sitting over the northern end of the Gulf of California, rotating storms counter clockwise. Looks like heavy showers in the mountains, but just sprinkles here.
Still, the remaining loquat trees will appreciate any moisture as they are growing their racemes, ready to bloom in a month or two.
That’s a very tired tropical storm that has drifted to the north end of Baja and stalled.
Or it’ll remember them VERY fondly, because the finest historians in Chicago will have done their doctorates at Moscow U. But those ARE the only two choices at this point.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
re: #67 austin_blue
That’s a very tired tropical storm that has drifted to the north end of Baja and stalled.
The hurricane that made it into the GoC several days ago dissipated, but there has been a low pressure expected in this area, by various models. There is an unusually early for the season Pacific trough that made it all the way down here (normally this time of year the troughs stay north of us.)
re: #64 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Radar doesn’t show anything but here’s the water vapor image.
So Boris is going all Trump:
Boris Johnson faces backlash over ‘dangerous’ language
Outrage is a common currency these days, but MPs’ jaws dropped as Mr Johnson ramped up the rhetoric in responses to questions - suggesting first that it was “humbug” for a Labour MP to demand he temper his language, to try to protect MPs’ safety.
Boris, like Trump, is using populist demagogic language that is used by violent right wing extremists. The blow up came when an MP encouraged Johnson not to use the language (“surrender”) that the extremist who killed Jo Cox used.
Well, I think we’ve done a very fine job of mocking Drumpf’s minions today doing a completely disastrous job of defending The Boss. In addition, we’ve had the added bonus of seeing The State Department throwing Rudy! under the bus.
Sorry, Fruity G, but you were expendable.
As noted earlier, the amount of flop sweat poring (sic) out of the WH has backed up every storm water sewer in DC. Which is sweet revenge for what those bastards have put us through for the last 32 months.
I am going to bed and sleep the sleep of the righteous human.
It will be interesting to see what comes out of the WH tomorrow. Will they take his phone away? Will JeVanka take an extended vacation to Argentina? Will Donny Jr. and Eric shit themselves in public? Will Melania take Barron for a proper education in the Balkans so he can Be Best?
Night all, sweet scaly dreams .
But the Republicans’ problem is that “quid pro quo” is Latin for “do me a favor” https://t.co/rYaoFlTFYE
— Ted Boutrous (@BoutrousTed) September 26, 2019
re: #5 Chrysicat
From the last thread, since my Kingdom Hearts mobile-game raiding kept me from responding in time:
On the issue of Pence going down with Trump, a couple thoughts.
a) Back during Watergate, after Spiro Agnew resigned, the House Dems and GOP got together to decide who would make an appropriate replacement VP for President Nixon. The Dems were satisfied the person should be a Republican, as the voters had elected a Republican, so long as the Republican in question wasn’t a wingnut. (I’m not too sure today you could find a non-wingnut.) They settled on the Speaker of the House at the time, Gerald Ford.
b) The same occurred after Nixon resigned, then with the knowledge the Presidency would still be held by a Republican. The Dems and GOP got together and the GOP forwarded Nelson Rockefeller as their choice for VP.
c) Much of that discussion of both VPs was behind closed doors between the two parties.
If the GOP’s reps and senators decide they don’t want to go down with the ship, they would likely agree to the same sort of terms to get Trump out of office (and Pence as well if he is implicated—and he was suggested by Paul Manafort so he probably is).
Rudy Giuliani only serves as the president’s personal “attorney” to claim attorney-client privilege. Which isn’t covered with an attorney and client committing crimes together.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 26, 2019
re: #74 Dread Pirate
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It translates pretty literally as “a favor for a favor.” And, as I noted earlier today, pretty much every one of us in our lives has had somebody more powerful than us (parent, teacher, family, etc) ask us to “do them a favor” in a way that made it clear it was an order and not a request.
re: #31 Chrysicat
Except that as pointed out, that was announced by a House Freedumb Caucus member. They have to think they’ve redacted it in such a way as to make Trump smell like a rose, or at the very least are prepared to make an ad-hom attack on the whistleblower for his ties to our side.
We don’t know the whistleblower has “ties to our side.” That is an unsubstantiated claim from the talking points the White House so generously distributed to the Democrats this morning.
re: #17 NO SMOCKING GUN!
And the transcript is only the tip of the iceberg. A storm is coming. I wonder if a Trump insider told him the transcript would “totally exonerate” him knowing it wouldn’t, because how deluded do you have to be to think that?
Are you Q? /s
re: #79 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
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Think the best argument would be that Trek series tended to be of their era, i.e. what was progressive then seems hopelessly antiquated today. For example, when TOS was on the air, having a black character in any position that wasn’t “maid” or “slave” was seen as progressive, same with an Asian who wasn’t a stereotype in a rice hat and a Russian who wasn’t the villain. And when “The Outcast” was shot for TNG, while the casting choice was absolutely horrid (all-female cast on a planet where the locals are supposed to have no gender, with the titular “outcast” falling in love with Riker), a story that actually addressed homosexuality in anything other than stereotypical “flaming gay” fashion was practically unheard of.
As for “Code of Honor,” the explanation is pretty simple: The director was a racist asshole who was fired not too long after the episode was filmed because, among other things, he kept trying to sexually harass Gates McFadden on-set. So in a script that was supposed to touch on African culture, he read it as “Film this like a 1930’s ‘Deepest, Darkest Africa’” skit.
re: #24 Chrysicat
Great, now my affectations to show that I don’t approve of where I’m literally stuck are setting people’s Putindar off.
Start using British/Canadian spellings like I do. /s
I had one person on a blog once respond to something I wrote explaining a position as “you write like you’re gay.” (a: How does one write like they’re gay? b: Why is gay bad? c: I’m not gay.)
re: #41 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))
There was a viral video a couple of years ago where a drunk white man berated and threatened a Puerto Rican woman for wearing a shirt with PR flag.
There is now an ending: chicagotribune.com
The man was convicted on counts of hate crime. While I feel it’s a harsh sentence for a 60+ old man, it was the right decision. Things could have escalated too far.
Felony conviction means goodbye guns. Someone who is hotheaded enough to go after someone because he is a racist she wore a shirt depicting a flag of Puerto Rico is a danger to the community.
re: #47 Chrysicat
Did this guy seriously just say after he started it on PoliTwitter that I should really keep my discourse at a fifth-grade reading level?
I…honestly can’t. It’s physically painful to try to shrink my vocabulary enough and were i to try I’d prolly still wind up throwing in a five-dollar word without knowing it’s not in the Twitionary.
I can relate. A large vocabulary allows you to select (without thinking about it) the word which correctly carries the nuance or shade of meaning you intend. When you need to really think about word selection to “dumb down” (though I prefer “simplify” to avoid the negative connotations of the word “dumb”), it really is painful in a way.
In fact, when Mensa was founded back in the days before the Intertubz, that was one of the reasons. Since then, other such groups as Intertel and Triple Nine exist for the same reasons. (Some members get the idea “I’m better than other people”; they don’t tend to last long.)
re: #17 NO SMOCKING GUN!
And the transcript is only the tip of the iceberg. A storm is coming. I wonder if a Trump insider told him the transcript would “totally exonerate” him knowing it wouldn’t, because how deluded do you have to be to think that?
at some point, his tax returns will be subpoenaed and/or leaked.
it will be easy enough to corner him into that
re: #54 Dread Pirate
As I noted a couple years ago, for corporate media outlets there is just as much money to be made tearing down a president as building one up (maybe more because everyone slows down for a car wreck to rubberneck).
re: #68 Chrysicat
Any GOP Member of Congress who STILL SUPPORTS Donald Trump is wholly COMPLICIT with his CRIMES.
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This is the point that the GOP has to understand in order to act
up to now they have been able to ignore and deflect
This is in the Washington Examiner, a conservative publication. https://t.co/S3XQ9lUCz3
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) September 26, 2019
re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🎃
I can relate. A large vocabulary allows you to select (without thinking about it) the word which correctly carries the nuance or shade of meaning you intend. When you need to really think about word selection to “dumb down” (though I prefer “simplify” to avoid the negative connotations of the word “dumb”), it really is painful in a way.
I used to get picked on a lot in grade school for “using big words”. People thought I was trying to impress or even intimidate them with a large vocabulary. I just thought they were normal, could not help that I read books out of interest and not just ones that were assigned to me.
And i was widely considered to be gay. Because I was not into ball sports or muscle cars, and although I was into women (at least theoretically) I was not interested in the blonde-haired, large-breasted, air-headed standard of attractiveness that most “real males” favored.
re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
You must be the brother my mother never told me about. /s
Although I really don’t remember much from when I was three years old, my mother says at that age I was already reading (simple) novels for adults.
In second grade (back in the days when I was really going to a one-room school in Michigan), my teacher suggested to my mother she wanted to advance me to fourth grade in the middle of the year. My mother declined on the grounds that though I could handle the material, the age and social differential would be too great. (Instead, that teacher would give me “additional work” to do separate from the class. She remains the teacher I remember most fondly.)
Calling out the both-siderism in the UK:
A friend’s Facebook post. It’s spot on. pic.twitter.com/cto6fV5UZ1
— Prof Stavrakopoulou (@ProfFrancesca) September 26, 2019
re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🎃
You must be the brother my mother never told me about. /s
Although I really don’t remember much from when I was three years old, my mother says at that age I was already reading (simple) novels for adults.
In second grade (back in the days when I was really going to a one-room school in Michigan), my teacher suggested to my mother she wanted to advance me to fourth grade in the middle of the year. My mother declined on the grounds that though I could handle the material, the age and social differential would be too great. (Instead, that teacher would give me “additional work” to do separate from the class. She remains the teacher I remember most fondly.)
yes, for sure.
My parents allowed me to skip the second grade.
Which was a big mistake in retrospect. I was able to handle the material but was not socially or emotionally advanced to handle the situations I encountered.
Really noticed it when I hit Jr. High, a year behind everyone else and a late pubertizer at that.
re: #88 Dread Pirate
The realization that Trump is becoming an albatross around the GOP’s neck is slowly dawning on them.
That being said, they really are in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” position. Jettison Trump and a furious GOP base will punish them by sitting out next year’s elections. Keep Trump and while the base will turn out to vote, it may well be insufficient and they end up getting routed anyway.
Sucks to be them. Heh.
re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
yes, for sure.
My parents allowed me to skip the second grade.
Which was a big mistake in retrospect. I was able to handle the material but was not socially or emotionally advanced to handle the situations I encountered.
Really noticed it when I hit Jr. High, a year behind everyone else and a late pubertizer at that.
My wife dropped out of high school at age sixteen to go to the University of Florida. (I’m not sure how she got accepted because she doesn’t have a GED.) She notes she wasn’t terribly interested in social interactions with strangers (she’s like that now).
As such, the giant “jailbait” sign flashing on her forehead when she was at college attracting men from all over the campus really didn’t affect her.
re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🎃
My wife dropped out of high school at age sixteen to go to the University of Florida. (I’m not sure how she got accepted because she doesn’t have a GED.) She notes she wasn’t terribly interested in social interactions with strangers (she’s like that now).
As such, the giant “jailbait” sign flashing on her forehead when she was at college attracting men from all over the campus really didn’t affect her.
I also started attending Indiana University at age 17 and there I noted (more in retrospect) that I lacked the social and emotional maturity to handle the place and generally wasted my first year there.
A year off would have been great, but I was collecting Social Security (my mom was a widow) and that ran until the semester ending after my 22nd birthday, so I did not want to waste money…
as it was, I did not really develop my social skills until grad school.
In the category of “the rules don’t apply to your betters,” (alternatively, “we can’t kick off Nazis because they sound too much like Republicans”) comes a rules clarification at Facebook.
Facebook confirms its “standards” don’t apply to politicians (Goes to Ars Technica, more at the link):
Politicians are officially exempt from both hate speech rules and fact checking.
Facebook this week finally put into writing what users—especially politically powerful users—have known for years: its community “standards” do not, in fact, apply across the whole community. Speech from politicians is officially exempt from the platform’s fact checking and decency standards, the company has clarified, with a few exceptions.
Facebook communications VP Nick Clegg, himself a former member of the UK Parliament, outlined the policy in a speech and company blog post Tuesday.
Facebook has had a “newsworthiness exemption” to its content guidelines since 2016. That policy was formalized in late October of that year amid a contentious and chaotic US political season and three weeks before the presidential election that would land Donald Trump the White House.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Facebook has had a “newsworthiness exemption” to its content guidelines since 2016.
Donald Trump is a walking “newsworthiness exemption” in the eyes of the US media, who will not take him to task, no matter how unfounded his claims, as he is ratings gold for them
The only native English-speakers born outside of Africa who were alive when their country was not safely capable of producing both #gunsandbutter are over 75 years old.
I have an uncomfortable feeling that will NOT be a true statement in 3 years’ time.— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Donald Trump is a walking “newsworthiness exemption” in the eyes of the US media, who will not take him to task, no matter how unfounded his claims, as he is ratings gold for them
Should Democrats regain control of the Senate and White House, high on the list of things to do seems to me to be to re-implement some form of the Fairness Doctrine and apply it to cable service and the Internet.
re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Should Democrats regain control of the Senate and White House, high on the list of things to do seems to me to be to re-implement some form of the Fairness Doctrine and apply it to cable service and the Internet.
more importantly, we need to incorporate Media Studies in our school curricula as part of Civics and Social Studies so that people are educated in how to glean information from various sources.
re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Should Democrats regain control of the Senate and White House, high on the list of things to do seems to me to be to re-implement some form of the Fairness Doctrine and apply it to cable service and the Internet.
I’d like the idea more if it didn’t largely suggest that by just about any interpretation other than possibly Bernie’s, Charles would be forced to find a “mainstream conservative” to invite to the site or face FCC scrutiny, ‘Mouse.
Especially since there really isn’t much of such a thing remaining in existence.
re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
more importantly, we need to incorporate Media Studies in our schools as part of Civics and Social studies so that people are educated in how to glean information from various sources.
Considering the Texas GOP once put in its platform that it opposed teaching critical thinking in public schools because that would allegedly undermine parental authority, I imagine the howl from conservatives on trying to implement Media Studies (after implementing Civics) could be heard through the vacuum of space all the way to the Andromeda Galaxy.
re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Considering the Texas GOP once put in its platform that it opposed teaching critical thinking in public schools because that would allegedly undermine parental authority, I imagine the howl from conservatives on trying to implement Media Studies (after implementing Civics) could be heard through the vacuum of space all the way to the Andromeda Galaxy.
They are fine when critical thinking applies to Evolution or vaccination, just not when it comes to politics.
Off-topic for lotto fans:
I won the lotto yesterday! ($6 on a free Pick 3 ticket, and a free ticket on the multi-state 2x2 game.)
re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They are fine when critical thinking applies to Evolution or vaccination, just not when it comes to politics.
Or correctly, uncritical thinking.
re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Off-topic for lotto fans:
I won the lotto yesterday! ($6 on a free Pick 3 ticket, and a free ticket on the multi-state 2x2 game.)
I’m…SORT of a fan. I’ll throw one set of my “standard numbers” and a QP, with the multiplier, at every drawing of MegaMillions or Powerball once they top 450M until they’re hit.
Hasn’t once paid off, but at that point the opportunity cost starts exceeding the near-term loss in theory.
In Brexit news
The Prime Minister is refusing to come to the House of Commons to account for his own comments today. https://t.co/F58QWeYLJh
— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) September 26, 2019
LOL “Brave Sir Robin Boris ran away!”
Pathetic coward.
A Microsoft Windows problem:
Since my last update, I’ve noticed that frequently my computer will dramatically slow in responding to commands (such as typing here now - the letters fall way behind what I’m typing).
This appears to be a problem since my last Windows 10 update with a service called Windows Push Notification Service (complicated explanation at Wikipeda).
Windows Push Notification Service (commonly referred to as Windows Notification Service or WNS) is a notification service developed by Microsoft for all devices running Microsoft Windows platforms. It allows for developers to send push data (“toast” and “tile” updates) to Windows and Universal Windows Platform applications which implement the feature. Designed as a successor to the Microsoft Push Notification Service, it was first supported on Windows 8 and subsequently on Windows Phone 8.1 upon its release.
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The effect is in Task manager the service suddenly starts taking more and more memory, and power usage for that service suddenly goes to “high.” As it eats more memory, it causes all other tasks in the computer to slow.
Many people have been complaining about this problem across various technical blogs, but Microsoft seems unable or unwilling to fix the problem.
Windows Push Notification Services (WNS) overview (goes to Microsoft, with text and diagram explanations of how this service works).
The Windows Push Notification Services (WNS) enables third-party developers to send toast, tile, badge, and raw updates from their own cloud service. This provides a mechanism to deliver new updates to your users in a power-efficient and dependable way.
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It dependably overheats my laptop and brings it to a halt in a power-inefficient way. If I am running BOINC science projects and WNS takes up too much memory, it crashes and aborts them.
The service apparently has something do with “cloud” services (though I don’t use any such service). Turning this service off seems to be beyond my education level reading various computer blogs, though going into Task Manager (if my computer hasn’t fully halted) and simply killing the process seems to restore normal function (for a time from a few minutes to a few days; I can’t seem to correlate this with any of the programs I run on my computer).
Meanwhile, in all the Brexit-y hubbub, this is also happening:
A thread on the Jennifer Arcuri & Boris Johnson story & why it’s a bigger scandal than you think.
Where to start?
An interesting tidbit on the Windows problem, particularly if you care about privacy or use a VPN:
With Windows 10, while connected to a VPN that disallows Split Tunneling, the WpnUserService_[unique ID] process bypasses the tunnel, connecting directly to Microsoft. This behavior will reveal the real IP address of the host. This can be observed with the Windows Resource Monitor.
re: #110 Dr Lizardo
Meanwhile, in all the Brexit-y hubbub, this is also happening:
Wow. The grift is strong with conservatives, regardless of party. I hope this comes to the attention of MPs in Britain, so they can address the issue of foreign influence in their politics.
(Deadbart? What’s next, Daily Stormer?)
Khashoggi murder ‘happened under my watch’, MBS tells PBS https://t.co/TBU1EyWFCZ pic.twitter.com/v9AL58w7oO
— Al Jazeera News (@AJENews) September 26, 2019
Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? ‘cause if I had known it was frowned upon…
re: #110 Dr Lizardo
Meanwhile, in all the Brexit-y hubbub, this is also happening:
This is juicier than Stormy Daniels, and again, not about the sex, but about the money and the laws violated…
re: #113 Dread Pirate
Khashoggi murder ‘happened under my watch’, MBS tells PBS
Which is why we should go to war to protect this MBSOB
The president of Marvel Studios is going to develop a new Star Wars film https://t.co/ubzRfzVfT9
— The Independent (@Independent) September 26, 2019
Uh.
re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Which is why we should go to war to protect this MBSOB
I hope someone can bring this to the attention of their Democratic rep or senators, via social media, telephone, or mail.
I’m stuck with my Republicyphers.
re: #116 Dread Pirate
Well, at least we know Spiderman will not be in the Star Wars movie, given Sony pulled Spiderman back to their exclusivity.
re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This is juicier than Stormy Daniels, and again, not about the sex, but about the money and the laws violated…
Indeed it is.
YouTube popped up a job offer from Scholastic to start at $14/hour in their Jefferson City, Mo. warehouse.
I presume these adverts I get for local businesses in Missouri come from my phone company thoughtfully running my Internet service out of Jefferson City, seven hundred miles away.
A passing of note:
Jacques Chirac, the former French president whose later years were blighted by corruption scandals, has died aged 86.
“President Jacques Chirac died this morning surrounded by his family, peacefully,” his son-in-law told AFP.
Mr Chirac served two terms as French president and took his country into the single European currency.
The French National Assembly has observed a minute’s silence in homage to him.
re: #122 Dr Lizardo
Jacques Chirac, the former French president whose later years were blighted by corruption scandals, has died aged 86
I recall when he re-instituted nuclear testing in the Pacific in the 90’s, we played at a “Fuck Chirac” rally…
Christian wingnut Dave (not a coach) Daubenmire is attacking singer Billie Eilish (age 17) claiming “the devil is using her to steal our children.” (If you can’t abort them, vaccinate them, if you can’t do that, indoctrinate them through media, if you can’t do that, introduce them to “homosex” in libraries. Yes, he said that.)
Dave Daubenmire: The Devil Is Using Billie Eilish to Steal Our Children (Goes to Right Wing Watch, with the original video linked in the article)
The problem here is folks like Daubenmire have thousands of followers each on YouTube (and its algorithm tends to pull those up on any religious topic). There are hundreds of people like Daubenmire who argue we need a “violent Christianity” (and in Daubenmire’s case has an unhealthy and lurid imagination about GayHomoButtsechs and masturbation). His podcasts and videos are specifically aimed at teenage boys, and amount to agitprop for violence (particularly against LGBT and atheists).
The only people who seem to call out the violent fantasies of such Christians on social media are atheists. YouTube hides behind “Freeze Peach” for violent Christian content while demonitising or removing counter-apologetics atheist videos as “controversial.”
re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
I’m assuming this is a song about a poor peasant and his love affair with his chicken…..
re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Billie Elish is a moody, angsty teen, albeit a very talented moody, angsty teen.
An agent of his satanic majesty? Eh, not so much. Daubenmire there needs to lay off the LSD.
re: #127 Dr Lizardo
Billie Elish is a moody, angsty teen, albeit a very talented moody, angsty teen.
An agent of his satanic majesty? Eh, not so much. Daubenmire there needs to lay off the LSD.
Nah LSD makes you more profound. Dave’s been sniffing shit mixed in with bacon.
re: #127 Dr Lizardo
Billie Elish is a moody, angsty teen, albeit a very talented moody, angsty teen.
An agent of his satanic majesty? Eh, not so much. Daubenmire there needs to lay off the LSD.
If you go through a search engine, hundreds of Christian apologists claim she is, and they all have hundreds or thousands of followers. Christian publications such as Everyday Christian Parent also claim she is a satanist trying to corrupt children.
While outlets such as The Guardian, The Independent, and Teen Vogue have pushed back against this, no Christian organisation or publication has done so.
It’s moving
Yes you are. Resign and go back to NY. Doesn’t that sound nice??
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 26, 2019
pathetic
So cute! Her father is under siege, for no reason, since his first day in office! https://t.co/8wtB3H4fth
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2019
All these highbrow folk trying to use high-minded reason… but they don’t understand - the Brexiteers are like Trumpers, they are know-nothings who revel in their ignorance as much as they do their vileness.
Boris Johnson has gone down the Trump path, and that path has no return.
This connection of ideology and quasi-religious language is relevant to yesterday’s escalation of political rhetoric. When people compete to be the true representative of an ideology (as BJ is doing) they turn to a rhetoric of purity. (Happens in religion all the time) /1 https://t.co/MsiHD0DHBh
— Prof Morwenna Ludlow (@MorwennaExe) September 26, 2019
Things are so bad, so worrying, so filled with hate & anger that we must take a stand for who we are as a nation. We must support the rule of law, & demand decency & respect from our politicians. We must moderate the language of debate. And we must condemn anyone who doesn’t.
— John Simpson (@JohnSimpsonNews) September 26, 2019
This is pretty funny, from the Seattle Times.
Vandals hack Seattle road sign to display call for impeachment
re: #132 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
All these highbrow folk trying to use high-minded reason… but they don’t understand - the Brexiteers are like Trumpers, they are know-nothings who revel in their ignorance as much as they do their vileness.
Boris Johnson has gone down the Trump path, and that path has no return.
Backing down involves a loss of face, a loss of livelihood and most likely criminal charges as well.
re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth
pathetic
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He sure is!
THE GREATEST SCAM IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN POLITICS!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2019
This would be sad if it weren’t so laughingly pathetic, the damage he has done to our country is immeasurable.
re: #135 b.d.
He sure is!
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This would be sad if it weren’t so laughingly pathetic, the damage he has done to our country is immeasurable.
Why, yes, that’s true, you Donald John Trump are the biggest scam in the history of American politics.
re: #137 HappyWarrior
Why, yes, that’s true, you Donald John Trump are the biggest scam in the history of American politics.
The press has let him get away with unfounded hyperbole for so long he thinks it is demanded of him…
re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Backing down involves a loss of face, a loss of livelihood and most likely criminal charges as well.
Yep - the Brexiteers have gone so far out on a limb, there’s no turning back. For them, it’s do or die - if Brexit fails to transpire, for whatever reasons, then it’s quite unlikely to come back on the agenda for a generation or so, especially after this absolute shitshow. There will simply be zero political will to go through all this again anytime soon.
So for them, this is it. This is their one and only chance and they know it.
re: #139 Dr Lizardo
Yep - the Brexiteers have gone so far out on a limb, there’s no turning back.
Give a politician a choice between tanking the nation’s economy or losing face, and the answer is a no-brainer.
re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The press has let him get away with unfounded hyperbole for so long he thinks it is demanded of him…
Bingo
re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The press has let him get away with unfounded hyperbole for so long he thinks it is demanded of him…
Absolutely. They never called him out when he outright lied about the state of the economy in 2016. The media is complicit in Trump’s rise. Makes his whining about them all the more pathetic since if they had rightfully scrutinized him from the start, he would still be a punchline rather than President Punchline.
re: #143 Dave In Austin
Cult of Jesus…..
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We did defeat him at the ballot box. An archaic rule and Russian help saved him tho.
re: #143 Dave In Austin
They defeated Trump at the ballot box, just not in the Electoral College, you Christwit!
re: #145 HappyWarrior
Absolutely. They never called him out when he outright lied about the state of the economy in 2016. The media is complicit in Trump’s rise. Makes his whining about them all the more pathetic since if they had rightfully scrutinized him from the start, he would still be a punchline rather than President Punchline.
It all started with the size of his inaugural crowd and went downhill from there.
re: #143 Dave In Austin
Cult of Jesus…..
I do fear that the day will come, as religious belief continues to wane, that the violent (propped up by those calling for “violent Christianity”) are going to come after those of us who do not believe as they.
re: #127 Dr Lizardo
Billie Elish is a moody, angsty teen, albeit a very talented moody, angsty teen.
An agent of his satanic majesty? Eh, not so much. Daubenmire there needs to lay off the LSD.
She is quite talented. And from what I’ve seen in video interviews, she seems to bear the weight of that talent quite well. She’s very sarcastic and funny.
I was surprised to read that one of her songs has over a billion streams on Spotify. A billion. That’s pretty amazing.
re: #143 Dave In Austin
Probably will block me:
You’re a grifter @DHuddlestonKY , carrying water for an even bigger grifter.
Shame on you.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) September 26, 2019
Trump’s shenanigans in Ukraine allowed Putin to take Donbas. So in this case yeah. pic.twitter.com/cuwAp4iZh8
— Naegleria (@fowerli) September 26, 2019
re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Also needed are mandatory Ethics classes reinstated in business schools, law schools, and political science majors.
re: #153 Florida Panhandler
Also needed are mandatory Ethics classes reinstated in business schools, law schools, and political science majors.
I think for the business school, in particular, that may not go far enough. Or IOW, as long as the businesses aren’t constrained by law to prioritise ethics over unethical-but-more-profitable-for the-quarter means, right now they could be forced by their shareholders to prioritise the unethical ones.
As has been said several times: if corporations are people, than Delaware’s laws necessarily make the ones incorporated there sociopaths.
So all that ethics courses would teach is what has to actively be avoided to avoid being sued by your shareholders.
I haven’t seen it mentioned here, but drummer Ginger Baker is critically ill.
The Baker family are sad to announce that Ginger is critically ill in hospital. Please keep him in your prayers tonight
— Ginger Baker (@GingerBDrums) September 25, 2019
Clapton and Bruce may have been the ‘stars’ of Cream, but Ginger was the machine that made it go. Notoriously cranky and opinionated, he riled a lot of people with his outspokenness.
He was a life-long heavy smoker, and it seems to have caught up to him. He may not get the accolades that someone like Bowie got when he passed, but in the sphere of rock he’s been every bit as important.
Nothing says “everything is fine, I’m in total control of the situation” like ranting in all caps.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 26, 2019
Oh, dear. Better go hide the nuclear codes.
Khashoggi murder ‘happened under my watchful eye’
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You’re a Criminal president who will wear the “I” word for the rest of time.
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 26, 2019
“STICK TOGETHER, PLAY THEIR GAME, AND FIGHT HARD REPUBLICANS”
Wait….. What????
re: #158 Ace-o-aces
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Oh, dear. Better go hide the nuclear codes.
You’re going down, Sweet Potato Hitler! pic.twitter.com/yg3IHBvunw
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) September 26, 2019
It’s good to see that the pressure hasn’t gotten to him yet.
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Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump has been extremely active on Twitter overnight. It’s bizarre, because so many of his tweets are baffling BS or retweets of nonsense like his approving retweet of Ivanka’s nonsense.
Trump getting impeached. He’s retweeting his daughter’s nonsensical tweet.
This is where the GOP is. Defending this incompetent and thoroughly criminal and corrupt crime syndicate operating out of the WH— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 26, 2019
Meanwhile, the NYT is recycling the same handful of Trump supporters claiming that the Democrats shouldn’t impeach (or that there isn’t support for impeachment) all while claiming that they’re swing voters.
Do the editors at the times not see this. Or do they not care. It’s not just lazy writing by a reporter to go back to the same people, but straight up lies about who those people are. These aren’t swing voters and they never were.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 26, 2019
You aren’t a swing voter if you’re a Trump rally junkie who’s attended dozens of Trump rallies. That’s like saying Bret Stephens is a swing voter. Everyone knows that’s bulkshit, and that the Times published this means that either the editor failed to do their job, in which case should be fired, or the reporters are so lazy that they don’t care to go and find actual swing voters. They’re trying to make the case not to impeach relying solely on the same Trump supporters they’ve repeatedly gone to. It’s journalistic malpractice all the way around.
Here it is. Refresh
Too subtle?
facebook.com
Holy Shit, watching MSNBC as they read the report outloud multiple anchors all heads down
This is freaking amazing
I was thinking about Tulsi Gabbard as I was taking a shower a few minutes ago, and why she would be opposed to an impeachment inquiry. Perhaps it’s due to her connections. She’s been a supporter of Assad in the past and she gets a lot of support from Hindu nationalists. Perhaps she’s got some foreign interference going we don’t know about?
!!!! Buried in the appendix:
WB: “According to White House officials… this was ‘not the first time’ under this Administration that a Presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive… information.”— Tim Mak (@timkmak) September 26, 2019
As people here have been saying for a while, the WH is a criminal gang.
Seems like we should expedite a bulk order of handcuffs, yes?
— G O L D I E. (@goldietaylor) September 26, 2019
re: #161 Dave In Austin
THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR.
Yes. Exactly.
And thank you for providing us with the ammunition to do so.
Who the fuck pays $35 for a hardbound book of tweets you can see on the internet for free? pic.twitter.com/bgK8CuU1Bq
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 26, 2019
Oh, right…Trump voters.
This includes Rudy and Barr (Rudy as a private citizen and Trump’s personal lawyer was apparently trying to act as a foreign diplomat and Barr is the AG of the USA and acting like Trump’s personal lawyer).
The WH attempted to prevent the readout from being viewed more widely across the intelligence community and State Dept because of the content of the 7/25 call. WH directed people to remove the contents of the call from computer systems that are normally used to maintain this information.
Rudy is directly implicated in the quid pro quo, which means Trump is directly implicated. Rudy needs to lawyer the fuck up and watch for being indicted as well.
Pence is involved and his trip was cancelled to exert pressure on Ukraine. Perry went in his stead - all of this designed to exert pressure to get Zelinsky to do Trump’s bidding on digging up dirt on Trump’s political enemies.
Adam Schiff now making opening remarks; Maguire sitting at witness table ready to speak.
Skimmed through the complaint and the biggest thing that sticks out to me is that the WB likely has a list of persons that investigators will be able to speak to on this. And that Rudy’s name was damn near everywhere, with several references to his being a go-between.
re: #173 sagehen
Yes. Exactly.
And thank you for providing us with the ammunition to do so.
Everything Trump touches dies. Graham said as much. It’s now coming true. Trump revealed the true nature of the corrupt and criminal GOP, and the only thing the GOP stands for is enriching itself on the backs of everyone else.
Jr, if I were you I’d stop tweeting and call a lawyer. Not one of your dad’s buddies, a GOOD lawyer.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 26, 2019
Former White House lawn ornament has thought.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) September 26, 2019
I slept like crap last night.
I’ll sleep like a baby tonight knowing that a slew of Trump staffers are tossing in their beds knowing everyone else at today’s meetings now has every reason to shank them and save themselves.
Welcome to Lord of the Flies - White House Edition.— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) September 26, 2019
Can we get a fact check on Devin Nunes allegations? FFS.
winning, winning https://t.co/OrqnhI5afd
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) September 26, 2019
re: #130 Dave In Austin
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They expected “the guy did something so wrong I reported him, but I would still vote for him?”
Oh god, Devin Nunes is making an ass of himself (what else is new).
So. Many. Targets.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) September 26, 2019
re: #181 jaunte
Hurd is a Republican on the Intel Committee. Nunes, the committee’s ranking member, just called this story a “hoax” and Democratic “mania” to stop Trump https://t.co/bqAyBvz1IB
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) September 26, 2019
Hurd is on the committee and he’s broken with Nunes’ bulkshit. They know Trumpworld is fucked. Every last one in Trumpworld, including Pence, Perry, Barr, and Rudy. All of them.
But the Trumpists will still push the lies as best they can even as the evidence piles up.
This is why we need daily hearings by everyone involved.
And Pence, Perry, Barr, Rudy, and all the rest need to invest in good lawyers who remind their clients to take the 5A at every opportunity because they’re in serious legal jeopardy.
I hope and pray that this man does the right thing. I think he will.
re: #184 Rightwingconspirator
Can we get a fact check on Devin Nunes allegations? FFS.
tl;dr: It’s bulkshit. All of it. Every last word Nunes said is bulkshit and misrepresenting the actual WB report.
REMINDER: The Republican leading the charge to defend Trump this morning is also suing a fictional cow pic.twitter.com/TMaVkPlTf5
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 26, 2019
re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!
MSNBC has reported there are now 220 votes for impeachment. In the end, almost all Democrats plus at least Justin Amash will vote to impeach.
Except Tulsi Gabbard. Interesting.
re: #195 Patricia Kayden
Is it though?
She’s a potted plant. Her actions amplify the GOP messaging, which makes her support suspect.
I know that there’s a Republican tendency toward wild projection, but come on, this is just blatant now.
— Exhausted K (@Citizen_Kryptik) September 26, 2019
re: #195 Patricia Kayden
Except Tulsi Gabbard. Interesting.
Let’s see Putin’s puppet explain that at the next debate!
Nunes accuses Democrats of trying to obtain nude pictures of Trump from Ukraine.
Does anyone have any idea WTF he is talking about?— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 26, 2019
No, the New York Times did not talk to six “swing voters” about impeachment. The article quotes a handful of devout GOP voters who the NYT has repeatedly interviewed multiple times. A thread…. https://t.co/QYKCWB9V5I
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) September 26, 2019
The NYT article also includes an interview with Trisha, who admits she’s been to 23 Trump campaign rallies. 23! She wrote a book about Trump! NYT has interviewed her at least twice in the past two years.
She’s a Trump fanatic, not a swing voter. pic.twitter.com/Eb7JXuzj6g— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) September 26, 2019
The NYT is repeating its exact same 2016 reporting antics, presenting devout Trump supporters as some sort of forgotten swing constituency. Why does this keep happening, and why do they keep going back to the same individuals for interviews?
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) September 26, 2019
How frequently has this happened? @gregpinelo not only guessed the NYT would do this ‘swing voter on the street’ reporting, but correctly guessed exactly how many interviews they’d reference! https://t.co/KcUmBnPzxz
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) September 26, 2019
re: #199 Patricia Kayden
So this is the House Republicans’ first line of “defense” for Mango Mussolini? Devin Nunes shrilling idiocy and stock HOAX!! FAKE!! WITCH HUNT!!! fauxtrage, coupled with cheap insults and wild accusation against “Democrats”??
IOW, they got nuthin’…..
I think I read it here yesterday that the House GOP’s most likely reaction to what would be presented to the Committee this morning was going to be to make an utter shitshow circus out of the hearings to try to deflect attention away from Trump’s and his Administration’s crimes. So whichever Lizard called it gets the prize…..
re: #190 lawhawk
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Hurd is on the committee and he’s broken with Nunes’ bulkshit. They know Trumpworld is fucked. Every last one in Trumpworld, including Pence, Perry, Barr, and Rudy. All of them.
But the Trumpists will still push the lies as best they can even as the evidence piles up.
R’s choose their committee chairs and raking members by their fundraising totals. This system privileges the most corrupt corporate tools.
D’s choose their committee chairs and ranking members by seniority. This system privileges those who started young, lived a long time, may or may not have frequent senior moments, and who well remember the Collegial Old Days and may not fully appreciate how much that’s changed.
Neither party chooses them on the basis of legislative or investigatory prowess, legal training or subject matter expertise.
re: #57 Dr Lizardo
Seems that the low-level civil war between the pro/anti-Trump factions at FNC has gone hot.
Let them fight.
Two men enter. Then lock the gate permanently
re: #174 Ace-o-aces
Oh, right…Trump voters.
I still by CDs or the mp3s even though I can listen to the music on spotify, in order to give some money back to the source. Exactly the same reason these people are doing it.
re: #179 Ace-o-aces
They can’t afford a good lawyer.
re: #50 Belafon
Is that 24 hours before the official announcement or 24 hours before the announcement that she was going to announce, which was 24 hours before the announcement? Even if it’s the latter, Dems were starting to coalesce around the Ukraine story. The bots could have just matched that.
The bot surge started late Sunday night, early Monday morning St. Petersburg time. This would have been in response to information received over the weekend.
re: #205 Belafon
I still by CDs or the mp3s even though I can listen to the music on spotify, in order to give some money back to the source. Exactly the same reason these people are doing it.
I stand by my vinyl, because after the apocalypse I’ll still be able to listen.
(also… I’ve spent a shitload of money over the decades on that vinyl, and my heirs may find the collection valuable.)
re: #135 b.d.
He sure is!
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This would be sad if it weren’t so laughingly pathetic, the damage he has done to our country is immeasurable.
We knew the downfall would look something like this
re: #145 HappyWarrior
Absolutely. They never called him out when he outright lied about the state of the economy in 2016. The media is complicit in Trump’s rise. Makes his whining about them all the more pathetic since if they had rightfully scrutinized him from the start, he would still be a punchline rather than President Punchline.
And they will turn on him instantly if they haven’t already when they see there’s more money to be made going the other way
re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Start using British/Canadian spellings like I do. /s
I had one person on a blog once respond to something I wrote explaining a position as “you write like you’re gay.” (a: How does one write like they’re gay? b: Why is gay bad? c: I’m not gay.)
A friend of mine, while visiting Texas, had a taxi driver ask him “Hey, are you a Brit”?
“Yes I am”, my friend replied.
“Oh, that’s great, for a minute there I thought you was a fag” says the taxi driver.
re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I recall when he re-instituted nuclear testing in the Pacific in the 90’s, we played at a “Fuck Chirac” rally…
A tad unfair as the whole point of the last few tests was to validate the fluid dynamics models that allowed the ending of testing for ever.
For some reason the UK didn’t get such attacks. Of course the UK did its last tests in America, and who cares if you nuke America. :)
re: #124 HappyWarrior
I remember his opposition to the war in Iraq.
I remember when he said:
“Notre maison brûle et nous regardons ailleurs. La nature, mutilée, surexploitée, ne parvient plus à se reconstituer et nous refusons de l’admettre. L’humanité souffre. Elle souffre de mal-développement, au nord comme au sud, et nous sommes indifférents. La terre et l’humanité sont en péril et nous en sommes tous responsables.”
at the Earth Summit in 2002, Johannesburg.