Watch Live: The Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump - Democrats Conclude Opening Arguments
The Senate impeachment trial of President Trump continues with opening arguments from House managers and the President’s defense team.
The Senate impeachment trial of President Trump continues with opening arguments from House managers and the President’s defense team.
Which means I’ve gotta stock up on popcorn before tomorrow, when the real shitshow begins.
re: #1 Targetpractice
Which means I’ve gotta stock up on popcorn before tomorrow, when the real shitshow begins.
Stay away from the bourbon.
Nadler just showed how uniquely bad this is.
Nadler asking them to consider the history that will be written. And he’s right.
The coda to @NPRKelly’s interview with @SecPompeo is shocking. As described on @npratc: He screamed, swore at her, and said she couldn’t find Ukraine on a map. He ordered staffers to bring a blank map. She pointed to Ukraine and thanked him for his time.https://t.co/8HlCDWxCU9
— Ari Shapiro (@arishapiro) January 24, 2020
So for the second time in days, the corporate media shows they can actually hold a Repub’s feet to the fire, which raises the question of why they keep refusing to do so:
Kellyanne @KellyannePolls refuses to answer @Acosta question regarding the WH withholding evidence. I and others repeated the question. She refused to answer”It’s a simple question” I said. She left after trying to lecture Jim pic.twitter.com/ZAj7PBdIA0
— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) January 24, 2020
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
I bet Trump couldn’t point to Ukraine on a map because it says Russia on his.
Going back to the Pandemic Discussions of a couple of threads ago…
Back in the late 1970’s I read William O’Neill’s “Plagues and Peoples” which is about how infectious diseases affect history.
Since then I have read a bunch of fascinating accounts of how diseases have affected human history and how humans are responding.
For example, The Justinian Plague of 541CE is viewed as probably the first reported occurrence of the Bubonic plague. It is thought to have killed off between one-tenth and one-quarter of world’s human population.
The ramifications it had for the Europe are fascinating.
“The plague’s long-term effects on European and Christian history were enormous. As the disease spread to port cities around the Mediterranean, the struggling Goths were reinvigorated and their conflict with Constantinople entered a new phase. The plague weakened the Byzantine Empire at a critical point, when Justinian’s armies had nearly retaken all of Italy and the western Mediterranean coast; the evolving conquest would have reunited the core of the Western Roman Empire with the Eastern Roman Empire. Although the conquest occurred in 554, the reunification did not last long. In 568, the Lombards invaded Northern Italy, defeated the small Byzantine army that had been left behind, and established the Kingdom of the Lombards. The plague may have also contributed to the success of the Arabs a few generations later in the Byzantine-Arab Wars.
The impact of the Plague of Justinian on the history of Britain was significant. Some scholars have suggested that the plague facilitated the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain, as its aftermath coincided with the renewed Saxon offensives in the 550s. Maelgwn, king of Gwynedd in Wales, was said to have died of the “Yellow Plague of Rhos” around 547 and, from 548 to 549, plague devastated Ireland as well. Saxon sources from this period are silent, as there are no 6th-century English documents. “
Plague of Justinian
en.wikipedia.org
TL;DR-
The plague may have prevented the Byzantine Empire from reuniting the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, from fighting off a series of invasions and possibly from fighting off the Arab Invasions. And it may have been the reason why the native Britons couldn’t fight off the Angle and Saxon invasions.
I’ll probably drop a few more stories as I get time…
Guys. It’s going to be hard to spin this as doing for partisan reasons. I’d be shocked if 20 Republicans or any Republicans vote for impeachment but the ads are going to be brutal asking “Why didn’t you vote to remove him?” This honestly is some excellent work by Schiff and the managers. Only FNC can spin this which is why they’re trying to already set up the Democratic nominee as having “stolen” it from Bernie.
re: #9 retired cynic
WHOA
That was my reaction. They’re shifting seamlessly into unmitigated, overt abuse.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
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Q: Can you point me toward your remarks where you have defended Marie Yovanovitch?
Pompeo: I’ve said all I’m going to say today. Thank you. Thanks for the repeated opportunity to do so. I appreciate that.
ie - “no i cant”
re: #11 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Guys. It’s going to be hard to spin this as doing for partisan reasons. I’d be shocked if 20 Republicans or any Republicans vote for impeachment but the ads are going to be brutal asking “Why didn’t you vote to remove him?” This honestly is some excellent work by Schiff and the managers. Only FNC can spin this which is why they’re trying to already set up the Democratic nominee as having “stolen” it from Bernie.
“even Nixon. Even Nixon complied….”
re: #13 goddamnedfrank
That was my reaction. They’re shifting seamlessly into nothing but overt abuse.
The whole house of cards is collapsing around them. When you hire people based upon sycophancy rather than competency, you’ll quickly find that they have no ability to control themselves when under pressure.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
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NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly says the following happened after the interview in which she asked some tough questions to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. pic.twitter.com/cRTb71fZvX
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 24, 2020
re: #15 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
“even Nixon. Even Nixon complied….”
Yeah Nadler choked up there. He’s been correctly making the case that Trump completely obstructed the investigation from the start and that makes him unique even compared to Nixon.
.@AndrewYang says Democrats should be going on Fox News and criticizes the DNC for not letting the channel host a Democratic debate: “How can you win an election and bring the country together if you literally won’t talk to 40 or 50% of the population?” https://t.co/F9xWFIU08W pic.twitter.com/U1ZglSxM19
— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 24, 2020
Remind me why it’s incumbent that Dems have to reach out to the Fox ‘base’ when Trump and Republicans get to mercilessly insult, degrade, and threaten Dem voters with zero consequence? That might be a better question to answer, Yang.
re: #19 Citizen K
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Remind me why it’s incumbent that Dems have to reach out to the Fox ‘base’ when Trump and Republicans get to mercilessly insult, degrade, and threaten Dem voters with zero consequence? That might be a better question to answer, Yang.
Hey Andrew, didn’t your parents ever tell you about the consequences of rewarding bad behavior?
It’s almost as if Trump doesn’t totally understand the importance of brains which actually kind of makes sense. https://t.co/bHQABc21mM
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) January 24, 2020
re: #19 Citizen K
Remind me why it’s incumbent that Dems have to reach out to the Fox ‘base’ when Trump and Republicans get to mercilessly insult, degrade, and threaten Dem voters with zero consequence? That might be a better question to answer, Yang.
40-50% of the population doesn’t watch Fox, Andrew. Oh and because Fox hosts are the same people who said our last Democratic president was a terrorist for doing a friendly fistbump with his wife. This is exactly why I’m tired of these idiots like Yang who have no elected experience thinking they know what a President should do.
re: #21 goddamnedfrank
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Given what we know about the man, it wouldn’t surprise me that Esper and the Joint Chiefs lied to him about the seriousness of the injuries in order to avoid further bruising an ego already turning black and blue after Iran showed they don’t give a flying fuck about his threats.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
Wow!
“Proof by Intimidation”, threats and implied violence. Sounds like that’s all they have left.
Maybe Resistance isn’t futile after all.
Wow, Maher’s really swinging for the fences. Tonight he’ll have not only Megyn Kelly but also Erick son of Erick. CLICK.
re: #23 Targetpractice
Given what we know about the man, it wouldn’t surprise me that Esper and the Joint Chiefs lied to him about the seriousness of the injuries in order to avoid further bruising an ego already turning black and blue after Iran showed they don’t give a flying fuck about his threats.
Biden’s Twitter just tweeted about it. And that’s something I can see Biden confronting Trump on in an ad or even a debate.
re: #17 BeachDem
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I’m glad she shared that story. My question is whether she responded in kind. I very much understand the need for professionalism, but I’ll be damned if I’d let someone lecture and berate me, and then be respectful in turn.
re: #19 Citizen K
Yang shows what an amateur and shallow thinker he is. About as sensible as Bernie and Rogan.
re: #11 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Guys. It’s going to be hard to spin this as doing for partisan reasons. I’d be shocked if 20 Republicans or any Republicans vote for impeachment but the ads are going to be brutal asking “Why didn’t you vote to remove him?” This honestly is some excellent work by Schiff and the managers. Only FNC can spin this which is why they’re trying to already set up the Democratic nominee as having “stolen” it from Bernie.
watching lofgren tear this to pieces
alas, it wont matter because the R senate is not persuadable.
they’re not voting on what’s being said, or the law or the evidence.
She just used Graham’s own words!
re: #17 BeachDem
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Now think about this guy being your boss and having to approach him with a report that is totally the opposite of what he expects. The idea that he is in any way favored among his peers and has the best interests of his underlings is a fucking joke.
re: #30 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
She just used Graham’s own words!
this senate is destined to be remembered in infamy
The House Democrats are a slow moving avalanche of facts and evidence.
If Trump doesn’t get removed from office, none of the evidence goes away. The amount of material available for campaign adds is going to be worth more than all the Dark Money in the world. This is the game.
“…and you’re letting him do it”
This is the guy that folks keep thinking will show a spine and stand up to Trump:
During a break about an hour ago, Mike Braun and Mitt Romney were talking on the Senate floor.
Braun: “I think we’ve got another 6 hours.”
Romney: “Oh jeez. No one’s watching!”
Tim Scott later said something to Romney, to which Romney responded, “I’m dying, I’m dying!”— Mike Warren (@MichaelRWarren) January 24, 2020
re: #33 BigPapa
The House Democrats are a slow moving avalanche of facts and evidence.
If Trump doesn’t get removed from office, none of the evidence goes away. The amount of material available for campaign adds is going to be worth more than all the Dark Money in the world. This is the game.
That’s what I’ve been thinking too. Oh and it’s a great historical lesson for all the Tea Party conservatives who accused Obama of being too power hungry who embraced Trump.
re: #29 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
watching lofgren tear this to pieces
alas, it wont matter because the R senate is not persuadable.
they’re not voting on what’s being said, or the law or the evidence.
I’m in love with her, too!
re: #35 Targetpractice
This is the guy that folks keep thinking will show a spine and stand up to Trump:
Mitt really is Trump without caffeine. No one’s going to say that we should have elected Mitt in 2012 after this. They’re going to wish that Utah told him to stay the fuck away.
re: #37 retired cynic
I’m in love with her, too!
They’ve all been great. Get used to a lot of these men and women. They’re the future of the Dem House leadership for this decade and beyond.
re: #17 BeachDem
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Those missiles were sold under the express provision that they not be used against Russia. Might as well be blankets eh?
— 🛑 stop (@somethingshift) January 24, 2020
Those missiles CAN and Trump wouldn’t have requested them if he didn’t feel confident they WILL.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 24, 2020
Really making the case I’ve felt for years. Yes, Nixon, Reagan, Bush II, and all were awful but Trump stands alone.
re: #28 BigPapa
Yang shows what an amateur and shallow thinker he is. About as sensible as Bernie and Rogan.
The Yang Gang is still removing Bernie and now Warren signs in my neighborhood and replacing them with his.
re: #29 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
watching lofgren tear this to pieces
alas, it wont matter because the R senate is not persuadable.
they’re not voting on what’s being said, or the law or the evidence.
Really underrated guitarist. Oh, wait….
re: #40 Chrysicat
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There’s no functional difference between refusing to sell arms for fear that the other side might escalate the conflict and selling that weaponry with explicit instructions that it never be used. The only real difference is that the latter puts money in the pockets of weapon manufacturers, who then pass some of it on as “campaign donations.”
re: #43 Barefoot Grin
Really underrated guitarist. Oh, wait….
She’s rocking though. I’m proud of all the managers.
re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹
The Yang Gang is still removing Bernie and now Warren signs in my neighborhood and replacing them with his.
I can’t wait until both Bernie and Yang are out of the race.
Jeffries up now to close before dinner.
re: #29 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
watching lofgren tear this to pieces
alas, it wont matter because the R senate is not persuadable.
they’re not voting on what’s being said, or the law or the evidence.
Yep: let me edit/repost a comment I made at another blog:
But as eloquent as the House Managers may be, it wouldn’t make a difference if the House had Daniel Webster as lead: the “trial” IS rigged, and the “verdict” is a foregone conclusion. And public opinion is an irrelevancy. The Senate Republicans, during this impeachment trial, remind me of nothing so much as one of those smirking all-white juries in the Jim Crow South hearing a case with a black plaintiff and white defendant (or vice versa): they don’t really care about the facts, their decision will be based primarily on their prejudices, and their main concerns are first, getting home in time for dinner; and secondly, annoyance at having to “hear” a case they never wanted to deal with in the first place (“Justice” of course, having little or nothing to do with any of their considerations).
Just showed Trump saying he can do whatever he wants and no one knows the system better than him.
This is insane..
After reading the message with zero sincerity, following the part about Russia meddling in the 2016 election he tacks on, “Could be other people also. Lot of people out there. There was no colluson.” https://t.co/ldWnNMmKGs— Ed Bott (@edbott) January 24, 2020
re: #48 Jay C
Yep: let me edit/repost a comment I made at another blog:
But as eloquent as the House Managers may be, it wouldn’t make a difference if the House had Daniel Webster as lead: the “trial” IS rigged, and the “verdict” is a foregone conclusion. And public opinion is an irrelevancy. The Senate Republicans, during this impeachment trial, remind me of nothing so much as one of those smirking all-white juries in the Jim Crow South hearing a case with a black plaintiff and white defendant (or vice versa): they don’t really care about the facts, their decision will be based primarily on their prejudices, and their main concerns are first, getting home in time for dinner; and secondly, annoyance at having to “hear” a case they never wanted to deal with in the first place (“Justice” of course, having little or nothing to do with any of their considerations).
We’re the jury too. They’re making the case for November.
re: #40 Chrysicat
Finbar McAllister
@FinbarMcAllist1
Replying to @Squack_Packer @ddale8
The reporter is pretending that it was outrageous that Trump delayed the aid payment for 55 days. Fact is Trump gave infinitely more aid to Ukraine than previous administration, which gave only meal kits and blankets. Trump gave hundreds of millions and sold them missiles.
he says he held the aid because of ‘corruption related to biden and burisma’
what changed in those 55 days?
did he satisfy himself there was no corruption and so released the funds?
or
did he not satisfy himself and release the funds anyway? IF SO, WHY? What Changed?
(besides getting caught)
Team Trump will accuse the Bidens of doing what the Trump family has actually done.
Step one of rules for despots is expand power base through nepotism + corruption while you manipulate your followers with mind games like the above. https://t.co/t4tYW4Yx0L— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) January 24, 2020
Now demolishing the due process claim and the claim he’s uniquely prosecuted. In fact, Trump had greater procedural protection than Nixon or Clinton. Points out that other Presidents have complained about Congress before but no one like Trump.
re: #48 Jay C
Yep: let me edit/repost a comment I made at another blog:
But as eloquent as the House Managers may be, it wouldn’t make a difference if the House had Daniel Webster as lead: the “trial” IS rigged, and the “verdict” is a foregone conclusion. And public opinion is an irrelevancy. The Senate Republicans, during this impeachment trial, remind me of nothing so much as one of those smirking all-white juries in the Jim Crow South hearing a case with a black plaintiff and white defendant (or vice versa): they don’t really care about the facts, their decision will be based primarily on their prejudices, and their main concerns are first, getting home in time for dinner; and secondly, annoyance at having to “hear” a case they never wanted to deal with in the first place (“Justice” of course, having little or nothing to do with any of their considerations).
The pot-bellied copper shook hands all around
And joked with the rednecks who came into town
And they swore that the murderer soon would be found
And they laughed as they spat their tobacco
re: #51 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
We’re the jury too. They’re making the case for November.
Which matters in states Russia can’t hack the vote that also happen to have an R senator standing for election this year. If either part of that isn’t the case, then that “jury” will have too long to deliberate and will forget that they’re supposed to return a guilty verdict on both the king and his retainers.
jeffries doing good too
i do wish they’d say instead of
“no president except trump has defied…”
and say
“ALL presidents except trump, agreed to the rules, history, precedent, conventions, etc and cooperated..”
re: #57 Chrysicat
Which matters in states Russia can’t hack the vote that also happen to have an R senator standing for election this year. If either part of that isn’t the case, then that “jury” will have too long to deliberate and will forget that they’re supposed to return a guilty verdict on both the king and his retainers.
Well I expect non stop ads so this will stay fresh.
re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Well I expect non stop ads so this will stay fresh.
In 2022 and ‘24? Unless we have the Senate, they’ll have enough federal judges to get the damn things quashed somehow.
Mike Pompeo was first in his class at West Point & Ben Carson was an accomplished neurosurgeon, yet both men became morally atrocious public menaces in positions of public power. There’s a compartmentalization of human intelligence that we really need to grapple with as a species
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 24, 2020
re: #53 jaunte
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“Whataboutism” is not a winning legal strategy, either in a criminal court or the court of public opinion.
I’ve seen some folks online referring to the coronavirus as “kung flu.” A bit callous, but leads to observations like “stay rested, get plenty of vitamin C, and you’ll be kung flu fighting.”
re: #61 goddamnedfrank
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There’s a difference between book smarts and intelligence. Being competent in a field does not make one an expert in all fields.
re: #60 Chrysicat
In 2022 and ‘24? Unless we have the Senate, they’ll have enough federal judges to get the damn things quashed somehow.
I’m optimistic about retaking the Senate this fall.
cnbc: Trump just revealed the logo for the Space Force, and it looks like the ‘Star Trek’ symbol
re: #65 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I’m optimistic about retaking the Senate this fall.
I’m very much not. I understand that any sane electorate would vote out any of them.
I also understand that they are acting like people who will never have to face another general election and whose only fear of being primaried is by an even more Hitlerist Republican.
It could be suicidal overconfidence or they could know they have an almost unbeatable ace in the hole.
re: #66 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)
The content got eaten, dm.
A reminder that what Marylouise was asking about was Secretary Pompeo’s failure to ever defend Amb Marie Yovanovitch when she was smeared and fired by the President. #answerthequestion
— Susan Glasser (@sbg1) January 24, 2020
re: #67 Chrysicat
I’m very much not. I understand that any sane electorate would vote out any of them.
I also understand that they are acting like people who will never have to face another general election and whose only fear of being primaried is by an even more Hitlerist Republican.
It could be suicidal overconfidence or they could know they have an almost unbeatable ace in the hole.
Well let’s see what happens. I’m trying not to despair.
There you have it!@realDonaldTrump was extorting Ukraine while claiming he was concerned about corruption. A first that a mobster is concerned.
His @SecPompeo just very clearly blew up that argument by saying “Americans don’t care about Ukraine” https://t.co/l4PerQeZFU— Olga Lautman (@olgaNYC1211) January 24, 2020
Yes! That’s literally what I was trying to say. Trump sent the missiles BECAUSE he knows that Ukraine WILL fall, and wants to indirectly aid RUSSIA!
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 24, 2020
Trying to talk doubletalk, get herself in trouble talk
Catching her in lies, catching her in lies
Mama just looked at her, she crazy
She don’t even bat an eye
Vote Martha McSally to an alley
Vote Martha McSally to an alley
Gladly to the alley with McSallyhttps://t.co/rMzDcwHcud— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 24, 2020
re: #73 jaunte
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Showing again why Trumpism is far more destructive than Neo-Conservatism.
eveything jeffries is recounting is trump saying
“you didnt do this in the proper sequence so it doesnt count”
(as if there is one)
sole power of impeachment is sole power
The Javelin missiles go all the way back to Pauly Walnuts. Here is a Google Doc excerpt I wrote up on it. If anybody touts Trump releasing aid and doing more than Obama, hammer them incessantly.
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re: #75 gocart mozart
I’m going to enjoy Kelly beating her and her still beating hated by the Trump cult.
The “source,” whose husband* is both a Fed Soc. member and an virulent anti-Trumper, claimed Trump was joking about Yovanovich.
It can’t always be “the president was kidding” folks https://t.co/Rwfo5kQXKm
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) January 24, 2020
Small oddity in all this - his aides have an unmarked world map readily available?? What? Does he quiz people’s geography skills on a regular basis? https://t.co/vSx33k1qom
— Jeremy Konyndyk (@JeremyKonyndyk) January 24, 2020
re: #80 Barefoot Grin
The “source,” whose husband* is both a Fed Soc. member and an virulent anti-Trumper, claimed Trump was joking about Yovanovich.
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LOL, Fox reporting a “source” who says it’s “clear” Trump wasn’t serious when talking about taking out Yovanovitch
“I spoke to a source earlier today who was familiar with the recording … he tells me … it is clear that the president was not really being serious about it.”
who?
anonymous wont work here
re: #80 Barefoot Grin
The “source,” whose husband* is both a Fed Soc. member and an virulent anti-Trumper, claimed Trump was joking about Yovanovich.
You know, I wish we could get it straight. Is Trump a “straight shooter” who tells it as it is or is he a constant jokester.
re: #53 jaunte
It’s amazing how the press continues to dance around and avoid this point: everything that Trump and the GOP are accusing Biden of to distract from things, Trump and his family are literally doing non-stop and have been since the beginning of his term.
Almost everything is projection with him. And pet the press keeps treating his accusations with the utmost of credulity while any accusations against him are treated with kid gloves and constant equivocations.
re: #83 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
You know, I wish we could get it straight. Is Trump a “straight shooter” who tells it as it is or is he a constant jokester.
Yes.
re: #81 jaunte
He probably does that to make himself feel bigger or that he knows more than anyone else.
re: #62 Targetpractice
“Whataboutism” is not a winning legal strategy, either in a criminal court or the court of public opinion.
The former is definitely true.
The latter I wish I could be more sure about.
re: #86 PhillyPretzel
Probably part of the staffer interview process.
re: #86 PhillyPretzel
He probably does that to make himself feel bigger or that he knows more than anyone else.
Alternatively it could be that “You don’t know what you’re talking about, so why should I take you seriously?!” BS that wingnuts thing is the way to instantly “win” an argument.
re: #85 Targetpractice
Yes.
They really insult their viewers intelligence every night and then get that validated.
Started watching Colbert’s interview of Chris Cuomo but had to stop because I was about to hurl.
There’s something deeply wrong with this guy’s brain and he’s getting paid millions for it.
re: #88 jaunte
Possibly. I remember a few years ago I had a history instructor who insisted that on the mid-term we would have to pick out on a blank map a country or city of his choosing. He chose Samarkand and almost all of us got it correct.
re: #65 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I’m optimistic about retaking the Senate this fall.
Moi aussi: albeit somewhat cautiously: just as an armchair-analyist’s SWAG, I think the worst-case scenario for the next Senate is likely to be a 50-50 tie.
re: #61 goddamnedfrank
Mike Pompeo was first in his class at West Point & Ben Carson was an accomplished neurosurgeon, yet both men became morally atrocious public menaces in positions of public power. There’s a compartmentalization of human intelligence that we really need to grapple with as a species
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 24, 2020
Pompeo belonged to the Tea Party and persecuted Hillary over Benghazi — so expecting honesty from him is a hopeless cause. His treatment of Yavonovitch is beyond appalling. Just confirms there is no relationship between ethics and academic performance.
re: #93 Jay C
Moi aussi: albeit somewhat cautiously: just as an armchair-analyist’s SWAG, I think the worst-case scenario for the Senate is likely to be a 50-50 tie.
I’m watching this. I’m just struggling to see how Trump will successfully spin this.
re: #94 Hecuba’s daughter
Pompeo belonged to the Tea Party and persecuted Hillary over Benghazi — so expecting honesty from him is a hopeless cause. His treatment of Yavonovitch is beyond appalling. Just confirms there is no relationship between ethics and academic performance.
there is/was at West Point. Power does tend to corrupt.
At this point I am hoping that there might be just ONE Republican brave enough to vote against Trump.
re: #94 Hecuba’s daughter
Pompeo belonged to the Tea Party and persecuted Hillary over Benghazi — so expecting honesty from him is a hopeless cause. His treatment of Yavonovitch is beyond appalling. Just confirms there is no relationship between ethics and academic performance.
His treatment of Marylouise Kelly was beyond appalling!
I’m confident Pompeo is a raging misogynist too.
re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m confident Pompeo is a raging misogynist too.
I’d be shocked if he wasn’t one.
I can’t believe people want to primary Jeffries. He could be the first African-American Speaker one day.
Wow. A far right Christian fundamentalist who’s a contemptible jackass when he thinks no one is watching. When has that ever happened before? https://t.co/iuG4ideX1R
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2020
re: #81 jaunte
Small oddity in all this - his [Pompeo’s] aides have an unmarked world map readily available?? What? Does he quiz people’s geography skills on a regular basis?
More likely he keeps them around so he can draw in countries (with a Sharpie, of course) when Trump wants to know where they are. I.e. draw them in where Trump thinks they are…..
re: #103 Charles Johnson
She obviously should have responded, “People will hear about THIS.”
re: #98 retired cynic
His treatment of Marylouise Kelly was beyond appalling!
Welp—Maggie Haberman, for some reason, thinks Pompeo “is seen as a leading presidential candidate for 2024.” (she doesn’t mention who, exactly, sees him as such.)
re: #106 BeachDem
Welp—Maggie Haberman, for some reason, thinks Pompeo “is seen as a leading presidential candidate for 2024.” (she doesn’t mention who, exactly, sees him as such.)
The 2024 race will be interesting regardless of what happens. Trump’s going to want to heavily influence the process and I wouldn’t put it past him to run again even if he’s in prison.
Blistering line from Rep. Schiff on Russia’s “propaganda coup”: Trump discredits his own intel agencies, parrots Russian talking points and withholds aid on Ukraine.
“I would submit… in the entire length of the Cold War, the Soviet Union had no such success-no such success.”— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 24, 2020
re: #106 BeachDem
Welp—Maggie Haberman, for some reason, thinks Pompeo “is seen as a leading presidential candidate for 2024.” (she doesn’t mention who, exactly, sees him as such.)
Fuuuuuuck that.
re: #103 Charles Johnson
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And I doubt anybody will be surprised when his spokesman denies the whole thing if the press ever gets around to asking about it.
Make no mistake: Pompeo’s meltdown, Trump’s rants, the continuous “outrage” of Trump’s lawyers, the Kavanaugh whinefest - it’s all the same trick: using explosive male rage to intimidate people asking smart questions about their crimes. pic.twitter.com/5BEDwYqAAH
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) January 24, 2020
Ahem. We are expecting some royalties from this… https://t.co/msYcJMlqjh
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) January 24, 2020
For Pompeo to say this on the eve of an official visit to Kyiv is the real news in his tirade https://t.co/HTzP8wlHOv
— Elizabeth Williamson (@NYTLiz) January 24, 2020
An hour! https://t.co/M13BEjYscp
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 25, 2020
I wonder if they said anything interesting.
re: #116 jaunte
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It also shows that Trump claiming to care about Ukraine is a lie. As it turns out, I do care about Ukraine. I even have a disagreement on a major issue with the Ukrainian government(the acknowledgment of the Rusyn people as a separate ethnic group) but I believe in Ukraine’s democracy and desire to be an ally in a democratic Europe where shared democracy, constitutional rights, & human rights matter. By placing Ukraine in danger, Trump puts us in danger because a Ukraine dominated by Russia will not be democratic, have constitutional law, or respect human rights.
re: #118 jaunte
Christ, an hour-long recording of Trump talking counts as a weapon of mass destruction.
I …
Confirmed: Lev Parnas attorney, Joseph Bondy, tells me he has turned over to the House Intel Committee an hour long recording of President Trump talking about firing former US Amb to the Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. Bondy said Parnas found the recording in his iCloud account.
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) January 24, 2020
You know, I don’t think this will be the last tape to come out.
re: #118 jaunte
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I wonder if they said anything interesting.
Just joking about Marie Yovanovitch for a hour. It’s not Eddie Murphy at the Apollo.
And to be clear for the obtuse on this thread (which some of you are likely bots but whatever) Colin Powell is not openly denigrating LGBTQ+ people or giving platforms to conspiracy theory nuts like Alex Jones or white supremacists like Milo Yiannopolous.
— Atima Omara (@atima_omara) January 24, 2020
Now I’m muting this thread, because it’s Friday, and I got better things to do with my time then repeat myself 🤷🏾♀️
— Atima Omara (@atima_omara) January 24, 2020
Obama wasn’t pure enough so he’s cancelled in favor of the true revolutionary who will never compromise. That’s why he’s promoting an endorsement from someone with known transphobic tendencies and lovevests with alt-righties, because he’s going to persuade his audience with the power of the revolution!
Just….fuck.
Just talking with two guys I don’t know at all for an hour about how they’re going to help me fire an Ambassador, as one does
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 25, 2020
re: #125 Citizen K
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Obama wasn’t pure enough so he’s cancelled in favor of the true revolutionary who will never compromise. That’s why he’s promoting an endorsement from someone with known transphobic tendencies and lovevests with alt-righties, because he’s going to persuade his audience with the power of the revolution!
Just….fuck.
He also never dismissed people worried about racism as practicing identity politics.
re: #106 BeachDem
Welp—Maggie Haberman, for some reason, thinks Pompeo “is seen as a leading presidential candidate for 2024.” (she doesn’t mention who, exactly, sees him as such.)
Did you expect Trump’s #1 Presstitute to say anything else? We know she’ll be doing everything possible to promote Princess Ivanka in 2024!
re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Mitt really is Trump without caffeine. No one’s going to say that we should have elected Mitt in 2012 after this. They’re going to wish that Utah told him to stay the fuck away.
This Masshole declines to comment.
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re: #132 Sherlock Hound
This Masshole declines to comment.
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Yeah what the hell were you guys thinking? Mitt has all the backbone of a Boston cream pie.
re: #116 jaunte
It’s completely irrelevant whether Americans care or do not care about Ukraine. It’s totally relevant that the IMPOTUS illegally held back aid (that he signed into law, I’d add) until he was given information about his likely opponent in 2020.
re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Now, now no more insulting Boston Creme Pies. /half
re: #131 Joe Bacon 🌹
Did you expect Trump’s #1 Presstitute to say anything else? We know she’ll be doing everything possible to promote Princess Ivanka in 2024!
She’s probably right though. I don’t see Ivanka going anywhere in a primary tbh. Pompeo though will have a pedigree and being known as the guy who stood by Trump. And he can pull the religion card in a way Ivanka can’t.
Yes because he’s part of the universe of uber-religious dudes who don’t meet alone with women and DC pretends like this is normal and not some wacko extremist thing and it cultivates/encourages really denigrating behavior towards women when they have to interact with real world. https://t.co/ms6lTh5ouG
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) January 25, 2020
re: #135 PhillyPretzel
Now, now no more insulting Boston Creme Pies. /half
Hey they’re good. They’re just not hard.
re: #137 jaunte
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This is another way these guys are different from Bush’s. I can’t imagine Powell or Rice going out of their way to be a jerk to a reporter simply based on gender.
re: #138 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Exactly. How about something like tissue paper?
You’re going to see Jay Sekulow and all the other Trump University Law School hacks nuke Trump’s base-only strategy tomorrow. It’s going to be an absolute shit show. By the end of their “defense,” the polls showing 65-70%+ support for witnesses and documents will balloon to 80%.
Honestly, I’d love to ask him that question. And Warren. BUT none of them received his bloody ENDORSEMENT, and we have no way of knowing whether they’d have been stupid enough—as this campaign was—to ACCEPT it and use it in advertising!
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 25, 2020
re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Yeah what the hell were you guys thinking? Mitt has all the backbone of a Boston cream pie.
Please don’t do that. My aunt once brought us the original Boston Cream Pie from the Parker House Hotel and it was the most heavenly thing an 8 year old ever ate!
re: #140 PhillyPretzel
Exactly. How about something like tissue paper?
It’s actually a reference to a TR line about McKinley having the backbone of an eclair. Plus I wanted to mock Boston :) since Massachusetts elected Mitt.
re: #135 PhillyPretzel
Now, now no more insulting Boston Creme Pies. /half
I prefer the portable versions.
re: #143 Joe Bacon 🌹
Please don’t do that. My aunt once brought us the original Boston Cream Pie from the Parker House Hotel and it was the most heavenly thing an 8 year old ever ate!
See below, it’s a reference to a TR one liner and mocking Massachusetts for electing him.
Trump had hidden camera’s in Trump Tower so he could show off female ‘Apprentice’ contestants naked bodies to his golf buddies.@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/8Fqsb8Mnwr
— NoelCaslerComedy (@CaslerNoel) January 24, 2020
I bet Pompeo’s “nobody cares about Ukraine, here point to it on a map” bullshit goes over like gangbusters with Republicans, who, like him, care only about money and power.
To them, the idea of caring about long term US strategic interests & fighting *actual* corruption is naïve— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 25, 2020
re: #112 jaunte
The best reply to this is “Quit changing the subject.”
Someone texted in to the film-review podcast I listen to to say that their little multiplex had this on their marquee:
Little Women—Doolittle—Badboys 2.
Heh heh.
morons
It was my honor to welcome our nation’s Mayors to the @WhiteHouse as we continue to strengthen the bonds of cooperation between federal and local governments so that we can deliver great jobs, excellent schools, affordable healthcare, and safe communities for all of our people! pic.twitter.com/QwYzS32lyQ
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 25, 2020
“The President truly believes he is above the law. This is not our system and it never has been”
163/— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 25, 2020
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
He didn’t mention clean water.
Pro tip: on Twitter, you don’t owe anyone your attention. If someone comes at you acting like an asshole, you have the power to block them. Use it. Life’s too short to be insulted by people you don’t even know. That’s why we have families.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 25, 2020
When I was a science fiction-addicted kid I would have been super-excited to learn that the US would have a Space Force in 2020. Wow, a Space Force! Robert Heinlein is right!
The moral: be careful what you wish for.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 25, 2020
Nigeria is the largest black nation and where the most African immigrants to US come from. Trump doesn’t want black immigration so he’s banning Nigeria. Tanzania is projected to be 9th most populous nation in the world by the end of the century. They added it to the list, too.
— Samuel Sinyangwe (@samswey) January 25, 2020
re: #156 jaunte
I hate to say it but DT is making Archie Bunker look like a flaming liberal.
Ever since the 1930s, American conservatives have tried to police Jewish identity – all the while declaring they “love Jews” | Opinionhttps://t.co/pJtRoxyRRF
re: #158 Dread Pirate
A bunch of dang hypocrites.
Trump has spent his entire time in office slagging the very intelligence community for saying that Russia and others interfered in 2016 and would be doing so again.
Trump and GOP block election security bill because they benefit from the interference.
No one trusts Trump.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 25, 2020
Trump’s worried as fuck that the intel community is turning on Trump, so he put out this bulkshit statement that he’s suddenly affirming the intel community findings on foreign interference in our elections.
Of course, Trump and McConnell will prevent any actions to secure our elections, like Democrats want. They will continue to push “space force” instead of a clear and present danger posed by foreign powers interfering in our elections thanks to Trump openly soliciting foreign interference repeatedly - both Russia and Ukraine. In the latter case, it was full blown extortion attempt. The ask itself is a crime.
.@mikepompeo slammed #Hamas, #Iran in an NPR interview. Claimed the Islamic Republic attempted to assassinate people in #Washington itself.
https://t.co/ff3oCX7DHS— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) January 25, 2020
Oh?
Adam Schiff is a hero with a very tough job, building an unassailable case against the Trump-thing, knowing that his Republican “colleagues” are just waiting until they can shut it all down and get back to the plundering.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 25, 2020
re: #10 ckkatz
Going back to the Pandemic Discussions of a couple of threads ago…
Back in the late 1970’s I read William O’Neill’s “Plagues and Peoples” which is about how infectious diseases affect history.
Since then I have read a bunch of fascinating accounts of how diseases have affected human history and how humans are responding.
For example, The Justinian Plague of 541CE is viewed as probably the first reported occurrence of the Bubonic plague. It is thought to have killed off between one-tenth and one-quarter of world’s human population.
The ramifications it had for the Europe are fascinating.
Plague of Justinian
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The plague may have prevented the Byzantine Empire from reuniting the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, from fighting off a series of invasions and possibly from fighting off the Arab Invasions. And it may have been the reason why the native Britons couldn’t fight off the Angle and Saxon invasions.
I’ll probably drop a few more stories as I get time…
the moral seems to be that history is always written by people with the most shit on them.
re: #157 PhillyPretzel
I hate to say it but DT is making Archie Bunker look like a flaming liberal.
Or more likely, Stephen Miller is. Though it’s defs possible that he has his ear so much because they came into this administration with already-similar views.
re: #163 Charles Johnson
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According to the WaPo tv talking heads, the President’s attorneys are going to use their time to lie about what happened in the House process. And that they are going to blame everything on Biden.
re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Yeah what the hell were you guys thinking? Mitt has all the backbone of a Boston cream pie.
We have an electorate that wants “balance”. We also have a (misguided) fetish for “independent” voting. And we had some virulent rightists, despite our “blue” reputation.
Grover Nordquist hails from here. Unfortunately.
re: #166 retired cynic
According to the WaPo tv talking heads, the President’s attorneys are going to use their time to lie about what happened in the House process. And that they are going to blame everything on Biden.
Ultimately, I think much will depend on whether or not stupid and shallow weathervane voters are now fine with Republicans who are openly criminal.
re: #156 jaunte
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Would have been a pity if travel were banned from Germany and Scotland in the first half of the last century.
— Travis View (@travis_view) January 24, 2020
re: #170 gocart mozart
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Someone got coding lessons from the guy who designed Drudge Report I see.
re: #170 gocart mozart
This is like a political version of the TimeCube nut.
re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
It’s actually a reference to a TR line about McKinley having the backbone of an eclair. Plus I wanted to mock Boston :) since Massachusetts elected Mitt.
The best part:
When Mitt ran for President, he planned an expensive fireworks celebration over the Seaport neighborhood, since his campaign HQ was at the Boston Convention Center.
He didn’t have his fireworks.
Reportedly, the Secret Service agent with him, shook his hand and left.
Mitt rode “home” with his son.
re: #173 Sherlock Hound
The best part:
When Mitt ran for President, he planned an expensive fireworks celebration over the Seaport neighborhood, since his campaign HQ was at the Boston Convention Center.He didn’t have his fireworks.
Reportedly, the Secret Service agent with him, shook his hand and left.
Mitt rode “home” with his son.
I bet Mitt was a joy to be around that night. Didn’t he also cut his staffers credit cards immediately? Mitt I really feel is a lot like Trump in a lot of ways in that he’s nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks.
re: #174 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Yes. As soon as he stopped running he stopped everything else. Cheap b.
re: #164 steve_davis
the moral seems to be that history is always written by people with the most shit on them.
Another moral of history, especially when it comes to Y. pestis is that it is a lethal trap to believe that your devotion, your fear of God, your faith will save you.
I recall the story of this town in North Africa in the late 1340’s. It was renowned for its Godfearing, righteous people. They believed that that would save them from the pestilence… A little under a month later, a traveller passed by the city, only to find every single inhabitant dead. All 20,000 or so of them.
And I recently saw a documentary on a archaelogical site here in Sweden. Long story short, it was an entire family, part of which was buried proper, part of which appears to have been buried by the elements on site. The archaelogist said it was a special kind of chill when it dawned on her that the extended family of 25 or so individuals appeared to either have starved to death, or died by an illness. 5th or 6th century C.E.
“He is the state” and “he will do it again.”
👉Whether it’s blanket obstruction or the inquisition to out the whistleblower, Schiff is — time and again — bringing the narrative back to this simple closing message.#ImpeachmentTrials— Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) January 25, 2020
completely off-topic. my property management team attempts to swindle me into signing a lease before the lease I just signed even begins to roll in February:
LEASE RENEWAL REQUEST
1/21/2020
Dear Steve Davis:
It is that time of year when we begin receiving requests for apartments for the Fall Semester. Your lease is scheduled to expire on 7/28/2020. Although it is a couple of months away, we need to know your plans now. Your options are listed below. Please indicate your lease expiration preference from the following options:
( ) 12-month lease renewal (Through July 2021): I would like to renew my lease for an additional 12 months with a monthly rent amount of $425. This does not include pet fees. Unless specified in writing, all other lease terms will remain the same.
( ) 5-month lease renewal (Through Dec. 2020): I would like to renew my lease for an additional 5 months with a monthly rent amount of $425. This does not include pet fees. Unless specified in writing, all other lease terms will be remain the same)
( ) Move-out: I plan to move and forward this letter as written notice that I will vacate the premises, return keys and provide a forwarding address on or before 12/31/2018.
You are welcome to send a simple response by email. If you prefer, you can sign the form and email it or mail it to the address above. THIS IS NOT A LEASE, but only indicates your future plans. Should you indicate that you will be moving-out, further instructions will be sent to you 3 to 4 weeks prior to your lease expiration date.
Sincerely, Accepted:
Tenant Signature
Lisa Leary, Accounts/Leasing Manager
Appletree Apartments, LLC
Tenant Signature
NOTICE
Please send your response by Monday, February 3, 2020. If we do not receive your reply by then, this letter serves as notice that your lease will expire and you will vacate the premise by 7/28/2020 . If you need more time to make a final decision, please let us know.
2
Steve
Wed, Jan 22, 10:02 PM (2 days ago)
to Stephanie
Stephanie, I am not, under any circumstances, going to make a decision about my lease until I approach the time when my lease renews. I will not let you know on February 29. I will not let you know on March 29. I have no idea where on earth your management team came to the belief that I am going to make a housing decision in February for a lease that runs through July, but I assure you that is not going to happen. Not by courtesy, and not by law.
Best,
Steve Davis
Sent from my iPad
to me
I will make a note of the time you need.
#RepSchiff sarcasm: “Its a well known principle of criminal law that if the defendant says he didn’t do it” he’s innocent! #ImpeachmentTrial
— Maya Wiley (@mayawiley) January 25, 2020
re: #174 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I bet Mitt was a joy to be around that night. Didn’t he also cut his staffers credit cards immediately? Mitt I really feel is a lot like Trump in a lot of ways in that he’s nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks.
Yup. He also gave his staffers $3 Starbucks cards. The minimum value is usually $5.
Mittens’ real aspiration in life is to be a bishop in the Mormon Church. The Presidency was to have locked that in.
Two more stories:
Mitt hated to ride the State House elevator with his peons. He hired security to sweep the elevator before he went home to Belmont.
Mitt also had good hiring instincts: He hired a “Labor Secretary” who didn’t work, preferring to shop on Newbury St. (admittedly, a short walk from Beacon Hill.) Another staffer impersonated a police officer.
Donald Trump decided to rip off his Space Force logo from Gene Roddenberry and Star Trek, one day after everyone just watched Star Trek Picard and got reminded of what the Starfleet logo looks like.
Trump is the world’s dumbest criminal, and it’s not even close.— Palmer Report (@PalmerReport) January 24, 2020
I’ve been watching him deliver a performance that in another era would persuade both the public and partisans on both sides. https://t.co/t1KoY1QyX8
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 25, 2020
Hope I don’t offend people with this:
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 25, 2020
GOP guy pulled a “not true.”
That’s kinda how you know it’s true— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 25, 2020
Now, why do I think of one of the Heinlein books that turned into a movie, “Starship Troopers”? pic.twitter.com/Ci9uOsNmN1
— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) January 25, 2020
Wow, after Schiff, what a deflating experience to have to hear the voices of McConnell and Roberts.
re: #187 jaunte
Wow, after Schiff, what a deflating experience to have to hear the voices of McConnell and Roberts.
McConnell: “I will spend the next several hours shitting on the constitution and setting the resulting mess on fire.”
Roberts: “…”
This week from @RepAdamSchiff is worthy of remembrance in the annals of the great defenses of democratic self-government.
If you still think this is about the small, petty, crude @realDonaldTrump, you’ve maybe missed the whole point.#impeachment— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 25, 2020
This “repetition” talking point from the GOP is intended only to persuade their captive cultists not to watch, listen to or read the evidence.
— glennwsmith (@glennwsmith) January 25, 2020
They love an ignorant, easily manipulated base.
re: #186 Teukka
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Starship Troopers was a fun movie. It just had very little in common with the source material.
I am full of hate, full of anger, and full of courage. pic.twitter.com/WGLsrIlS0r
— Black Metal Cats (@evilbmcats) January 22, 2020
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
“…He screamed, swore at her, and said she couldn’t find Ukraine on a map.”
Someone tell Pompeo.
‘It’s not like you’ve got China on your border’: Trump geography error stunned Indian prime minister https://t.co/YnL3VrPhDl— (((Robert Arthur))) (@jaunte) January 25, 2020
re: #167 Sherlock Hound
We have an electorate that wants “balance”. We also have a (misguided) fetish for “independent” voting. And we had some virulent rightists, despite our “blue” reputation.
Grover Nordquist hails from here. Unfortunately.
Yeah, still can’t get over nearly 20,000 voted for Scott fucking Lively in 2014 for governor. Yeesh. (and let’s not even talk about Jill Stein getting more than 75,000 votes in 2002 against Romney.)
Jesus, what a crew. https://t.co/6zo2VbxD0k
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 25, 2020
“Republicans say privately that they don’t believe it would benefit themselves politically to hear witnesses.”
Remember that when these same Senators claim to represent their country or their constituents. They’re in it for themselves, and NO ONE else. https://t.co/24Y3wQr1MY— Marla Erwin 🏳️🌈 (@marlaerwin) January 25, 2020
If you want to watch part 2 of Rachel Maddow’s interview with Lev Parnas tonight but don’t have cable or you live abroad as I do, use this free high-speed streaming link: Watch MSNBC Live Streaming - https://t.co/z8JFO058xu pic.twitter.com/gT9o3ECV0v
— John Lundin 🌊 (@johnlundin) January 17, 2020
Wouldn’t white supremacists moving to acceptance of progressive social democratic values be a good thing?
— Reactordrone (@reactordrone) January 25, 2020
I mean, it’s not like their granpappys didn’t FEIGN acceptance of Black people into their society only to teach their parents and eventually them to be just as bigoted as ever but hide it if it didn’t look like they were the majority, or nuthin’…
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 25, 2020
Hah! They’re actually going to pretend they don’t know where “head on a pike” came from. These people. https://t.co/K5nh8KVL2p
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 25, 2020
Holy shit. She’s morphed into Joe Wilson.
wow. https://t.co/cj9JVd89GF— digby (@digby56) January 25, 2020
re: #176 Teukka
Yes!
I was just reading about that case. Where a Swedish tomb dating from 3500-3000 BCE was excavated and found to contain evidence of Yersinia Pestis. This is contemporaneous to the Neolithic Decline.
The Neolithic decline was a rapid collapse in populations between five and six thousand years ago (approximately 3000 BC) during the Neolithic period in western Eurasia. The specific causes of that broad population decline are still debated. While heavily-populated settlements were regularly created, abandoned, and resettled during the Neolithic, after around 5400 BP, a great number of those settlements were permanently abandoned. The population decline is associated with worsening agricultural conditions and a decrease in cereal production. Other suggested causes include the emergence of communicable diseases spread from animals living in close quarters with humans.
Rascovan et al (2019) suggest that plague could have also caused the population decline. That is supported by the discovery of a tomb in modern-day Sweden containing 79 corpses buried within a short time, in which the authors discovered fragments of a unique strain of the plague pathogen Yersinia pestis. In that strain, the authors also discovered the “plasminogen activator gene that is sufficient to cause pneumonic plague”, an extremely deadly form of the plague which is airborne and directly communicable between humans.
Neolithic decline
en.wikipedia.org
He cited a news report. What this shows is they’re looking for any pretext on which to hang their predetermined decision to vote for the coverup. They’ve chosen this and it underscores that they think everyone watching is stupid. The error is theirs, and it’s completely forced. https://t.co/djtWMllrOn
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) January 25, 2020
GOD! I am so sick of these delicate Victorian spinsters calling for the fainting couch.
THE BARBARIC FREAK FOR WHOM THEY ARE SACRIFICING THEIR REPUTATIONS AND LEGACY IS THE MOST GROTESQUE MONSTER IN AMERICAN POLITICS!
His daily utterances are a toxic sewer of hate. https://t.co/yVrNgOq07x— digby (@digby56) January 25, 2020
re: #118 jaunte
That sounds like a warning to the Republican Senators. And a repeat of what the House Managers have said.
That what is already known is damning. That there is more out there. That the senators do not know yet what it is. That it will get out. And that the Republican senators are going to get spattered with it.
Couldn’t happen to a better bunch.
They aren’t angry, this is kayfabe & you’re helping them sell it. Trump is openly bribing these same Senators with campaign funding while his surrogates explicitly threaten them. They were never going to vote to convict and think we’re all stupid enough to buy this weak bullshit
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 25, 2020
Murkowski literally got a call from Ryan Zinke theeatening to harm her state for her No vote on health care in 2017. https://t.co/VSWxz6kKH0
— Matthew Shadle🗽 (@Matthew_Shadle) January 25, 2020
Breaking: ABC news has posted the Trump “take her out” audio here: https://t.co/gZNV73lSx8
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 25, 2020
In other news, the “Retail Apocalypse” seems to be continuing.
Among the announced store closures for 2020 according to Business Insider and Moneywise (And it’s only January):
Pier 1 Imports: 450 stores
Papyrus: 254 stores
Gap: 230 stores
Walgreens: 200 stores (This is in addition to a previously announced cut of 750 US stores)
Chico’s: 200 stores
Forever 21: 178 stores
Destination Maternity: 183 stores
A.C. Moore: 145 stores
Bose: 119 stores
Olympia Sports: 76 stores
Sears: 51 stores
Kmart: 45 stores
Bed, Bath & Beyond: 44 stores
Lucky’s Market: 32 stores
Express: 31 stores
Macy’s: 30 stores
JCPenney: 6 stores
Office Depot: Up to 90 stores
Christopher & Banks: Up to 40 stores
New York & Co.: 27 stores
CVS: 22 stores
Lord & Taylor: 2 stores (I have heard of a third announced closing)
Bloomingdale’s: 1 store
Republicans love nothing more than a cheap, convenient, disingenuous pretext upon which to blame their rank corruption & dereliction of duty. My only question is why are you helping them sell it?
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 25, 2020
Don Jr. was also in the room, Bondy told Maddow.
— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 25, 2020
Sharing this video of my favorite sumo wrestler, Enho, getting his kachi koshi (eighth out of 15 wins) today. Remember, Enho is just over 5’6” and weighs about 218 pounds. His opponent today, Abi, is 6’3” and 324 pounds. Roll forward to 1:00 to see Enho make short work of Abi by basically throwing him out of the ring.
ETA: I believe he’ll get a special technique prize (and I think somewhere around $20,000) on Sunday.
One of us is that nut saying “yet you exist in society” from the Matt Bors cartoon.
I’m not sure which.
No, I simply would literally never endorse Trump because nothing he can do can erase trying to create a white ethnostate. But then I don’t have the firepower to bring to bear on a politician that Roganites do anyway.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 25, 2020
Republican senators aren’t good for much, but one of the few things they’re pretty good at is feigned outrage.
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) January 25, 2020
This is hilarious. The Republicans live in abject fear of Trump every day of their lives. They all know they are one mean tweet away from a primary Challenger. https://t.co/YJl0wrj9ON
— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) January 25, 2020
Wait, who says “I was visibly upset with it.” How would he know what he looked like?
Oh, God/dess. They’ve invited the Strasserites into the tent, and it’s impossible to tell which ones are too ignorant that they existed to know that, and which ones are fellow travellers.
The last socialist to court support from white supremacists was Adolph Hitler.
This is where we say goodbye.— 🥀 Corbyn 2019 = Sanders 2020 🥀 (@NotMikeDitka89) January 24, 2020
True when referring to HITLER HIMSELF. NOT when referring to the Strassers, who actually WERE committed class-abolishing socialists—&were convinced that every Jew was unredeemably bourgeoisie. We do NOT need an election where our choices can even be CAPSULISED “#StrasservHitler”
— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 25, 2020
re: #215 jaunte
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Wait, who says “I was visibly upset with it.” How would he know what he looked like?
God shut the fuck up already. We know damn well how Trump is to everyone who he thinks isn’t absolutely loyal to him.
re: #217 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
But I have my visibly upset face on! That means I win!
re: #215 jaunte
This horseshit faux-outrage line about being offended for being called out about being a cadre of chickenshit coward scaredy-cat pussies is fucking rich.
Irony is utterly fucking dead.
“We’re not scared, we just play scared on every front, ever.”— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 25, 2020
re: #216 Chrysicat
Oh, God/dess. They’ve invited the Strasserites into the tent, and it’s impossible to tell which ones are too ignorant that they existed to know that, and which ones are fellow travellers.
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Hitler’s main competition was the SDP, literally the Socialist Party of Germany. The famous Nimholler poem mentions trade unionists and social democrats but what did he know that some idiot with an agenda to call Hitler left wing. Also Candace Owens known liberal praised Hitkerism pre invasion of Poland.
re: #218 jaunte
But I have my visibly upset face on! That means I win!
I’M PLAYING THE DAMN VICTIM CARD, YOU KNOW THAT TRUMPS EVERYTHING!
re: #219 Interesting Times
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This is your party, Rick. I really hope you regret helping get these enablers into office.
re: #215 jaunte
They’re always shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment.
re: #223 Deep State SuperElite Satinist
They’re always shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment.
Trump is going to have another shit fit and Susan will be there on cue to tell us how disappointed she is. Honestly, I despise a Susan Collins more than I do a true Trump believer because the the latter honestly believes in Donald Trump’s bullshit. Collins on the other hand claims to be outraged by certain behavior and then she enables it. I really hope her state throws her out this November. Enough of this shit.
re: #215 jaunte
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Wait, who says “I was visibly upset with it.” How would he know what he looked like?
He knows what he looked like because he’d been practicing in a mirror for days, hoping he’d have a chance to use it.
re: #225 sagehen
A brilliant heart felt presentation by Adam Schiff followed by Republicans reading their stage directions out loud.