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lawhawk  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:37:02am

Local Nashville reporter:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:39:33am

re: Nashville explosion

The warning sounds like a commercially available recording that would be used as part of an automated emergency response system, something you might hear in a nuclear powerplant or hazardous materials storage area.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:40:32am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

re: Nashville explosion

The warning sounds like a commercially available recording that would be used as part of an automated emergency response system, something you might hear in a nuclear powerplant or hazardous materials plant.

That’s why I thought a police cruiser was playing it, right before the explosion.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:42:48am
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Romantic Heretic  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:44:15am

re: #1 lawhawk

Merry Fucking Christmas.

From the authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:45:34am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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That threw me for a minute. At first I didn’t realize the kitty had an accomplice.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:46:16am

And from me,

An actual wish for a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all the lizards and the people they care for.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:46:28am
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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:46:37am

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.

A Very Happy Friday to all those who don’t.

Christmas 1971 Gidget and Me
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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:46:56am

WKRN just played a compilation of four Nest video clips from 215 Second Ave N (just right down from ground zero) of about a dozen very loud gunshots over the space of about an hour before the explosion.

I stand by my reckoning that this was a trap laid for police, but the automated warnings from the RV still perplexes me.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:47:23am

re: #6 Eventual Carrion

That threw me for a minute. At first I didn’t realize the kitty had an accomplice.

I missed that too, and I had to go back and replay it to see. Of course. Trouble and Double.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:48:42am

re: #10 TedStriker

WKRN just played a compilation of four Nest video clips from 215 Second Ave N (just right down from ground zero) of about a dozen very loud gunshots over the space of about an hour before the explosion.

I stand by my reckoning that this was a trap laid for police.

Probably played over the vehicle’s broadcasting system so as to create an illusion that would fool ordinary people into calling in the gunshots.

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gocart mozart  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:48:46am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:49:00am

re: #6 Eventual Carrion

That threw me for a minute. At first I didn’t realize the kitty had an accomplice.

I think the first kitten to depart was responsible for holding the base of the tree.
Obviously without success

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:51:25am

So just got done watching Soul.

A very good movie and a solid entry in the Pixar canon. And for their music contribution to the film, I’mma predict that Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross are probably gonna get nominated for an Academy Award.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:52:38am

re: #12 thedopefishlives

Probably played over the vehicle’s broadcasting system so as to create an illusion that would fool ordinary people into calling in the gunshots.

And now reports are coming in from all around Metro and the surrounding counties of AT&T phone, internet, and TV outages.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:54:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:54:36am

re: #16 TedStriker

And now reports are coming in from all around Metro and the surrounding counties of AT&T phone, internet, and TV outages.

Hmmm…..didn’t the FBI investigate some RWNJs trying to take down the power grid? I read that here - and elsewhere - a couple days ago.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:55:23am

Apparently the AT&T building was a major switching station.

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:55:44am

re: #18 Dr Lizardo

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:55:54am

re: #17 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Nah. Eleven hours is too short. How about 20 hours?

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EstebanTornado1963  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:56:17am

re: #18 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm…..didn’t the FBI investigate some RWNJs trying to take down the power grid? I read that here - and elsewhere - a couple days ago.

Now, now, no speculating…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:56:41am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Off the top of my head, it sounds like whomever was behind this knew what they were aiming for.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:57:10am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Apparently the AT&T building was a major switching station.

It is a (if not the) major central office for Nashville and Middle Tennessee for AT&T’s terrestrial network.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:57:17am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Apparently the AT&T building was a major switching station.

Is the AT&T building where the device went *poof*?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:57:28am

re: #20 jaunte

Thanks for memory jog. It was definitely in the news.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:58:00am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Apparently the AT&T building was a major switching station.

AT&T is also producing the Covid causing 5G!

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2020 • 10:58:52am

re: #13 gocart mozart

OMG I forgot about that one. I’m crying over here.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:00:25am

Meanwhile.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:00:32am

re: #24 TedStriker

In fact, the white building at the corner of Second and Church right beside the red AT&T building where the explosion was also belongs to AT&T and had a microwave tower handling some of their long-distance links on top of it until just a few years ago.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:01:44am

re: #17 Dr. Teddy’s Person

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I even want to drop “domestic” from the description. A TERROR attack is sufficient IMO.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:01:54am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile.

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OMG, I can’t even with these evil motherfuckers.

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nines09  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:02:16am

Have a Very Merry Christmas everyone. The days slowly gather more light from here on out to June. All our snow melted under about 2 inches of rain. And hard winds all through the night. Power only went once, and that is good because the sump pump is working OT.
Flooding in the usual areas, and then a freeze. With flurries.
Stay warm and safe.
My job is to keep Cooper not muddy/wet/soaked/ and it’s a job.
I think he’s amphibian.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:03:12am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile.

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re: #32 Dr. Teddy’s Person

OMG, I can’t even with these evil motherfuckers.

From a Nashvillian, here’s a message your fucking pea brain should be able to handle:

Get fucked, Bill.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:03:42am

re: #10 TedStriker

WKRN just played a compilation of four Nest video clips from 215 Second Ave N (just right down from ground zero) of about a dozen very loud gunshots over the space of about an hour before the explosion.

I stand by my reckoning that this was a trap laid for police, but the automated warnings from the RV still perplexes me.

Doesn’t seem like a plot by Trumpsters since they would want to attack and kill people who don’t support their master. And Tennessee isn’t involved in any political dispute related to the election. Very strange. Hopefully we will eventually find out the motivation. Destructive — but no apparent interest in harming people.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:03:47am
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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:04:48am

re: #20 jaunte

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Also,

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:05:36am

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t seem like a plot by Trumpsters since they would want to attack and kill people who don’t support their master. And Tennessee isn’t involved in an political dispute related to the election. Very strange. Hopefully we will eventually find out the motivation. Destructive — but no apparent interest in harming people.

Well, we here in Nashville are one of only a couple of blue islands here amidst the sea of red that is TN. However, I’m not ready to ascribe this to Y’all Queda just yet; let’s wait for something more concrete.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:08:13am

re: #38 TedStriker

Well, we are one of only a couple of blue islands here in Nashville, amidst a sea of red. However, I’m not ready to ascribe this to Y’all Queda just yet.

Yeah, I think it’s pretty up in the air right now. It depends on if the warnings broadcast from the vehicle were intended as police bait, or to minimize casualties while blowing up the AT&T building. I think the list of possibilities is pretty long.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:08:49am

Before and after

earth.google.com

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:09:36am

re: #27 b.d. (We Won!)

AT&T is also producing the Covid causing 5G!

That thought came to my mind also. Like that crazy trying to blow up the transmission tower.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:12:19am

There seem to be more assholes than usual on Twitter this morning.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:13:21am

re: #37 Teukka

Also,

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So we should take out any of our repug neighbors out of self defense? I’m not going to have many neighbors left.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:14:33am

re: #40 Rightwingconspirator

Nice shot. No windows, lots of AC equipment on the roof. Racks and racks of servers and copper and fiber.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:15:42am

Seriously, just fuck this guy.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:16:42am

re: #44 BigPapa

Nice shot. No windows, lots of AC equipment on the roof. Racks and racks of servers and copper and fiber.

Wonder what kind of hotspot relocation you might have for that kind of equipment? And how long to get back up and running on it if available.

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A Cranky One  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:17:30am

re: #44 BigPapa

Nice shot. No windows, lots of AC equipment on the roof. Racks and racks of servers and copper and fiber.

My observation as well. A major switching center is usually noticeable because of the lack of windows and lots of cooling. Given the placement of the blast, it was likely the target.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:18:04am

Well, I was putting away the marble pie rolling board after making the blind-baked pie crust, and it slipped out of my hands and fell on my foot.

I don’t think it is broken (my foot, not the pie board which is just fine!) but I’m keeping it (the foot) elevated.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:20:06am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile.

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Seeing the ssshhhaaavvviiinnnggg cream assholes are posting on Parler, it needs to be shut down…

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:20:18am

re: #43 Eventual Carrion

So we should take out any of our repug neighbors out of self defense? I’m not going to have many neighbors left.

You can’t target civilians under the laws of war (Geneva, Hague Conventions, CPPCG). Let the rightoids do the violations of the laws of war, let them be the ones who become unlawful combattants.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:20:28am

re: #37 Teukka

Also,

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The Twitter account for that ID is banned.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:21:30am

re: #8 Teukka

Now playing in this Lizardims lair:

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Dammit, sums my mood up perfectly :’(

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:22:13am

re: #51 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

The Twitter account for that ID is banned.

The screencap is lifted off of Parler.

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A Cranky One  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:23:07am

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

Well, I was putting away the marble pie rolling board after making the blind-baked pie crust, and it slipped out of my hands and fell on my foot.

I don’t think it is broken (my foot, not the pie board which is just fine!) but I’m keeping it (the foot) elevated.

Best wishes, hope you heal okay.

Glad to hear you are keeping the foot elevated; keeping the pie board elevated seems to be an issue. ;-)

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:23:42am
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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:24:51am

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

OWTCH! 😢

Sending a hug!!!!!

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:30:07am

re: #53 Teukka

The screencap is lifted off of Parler.

Yeah, was just noting that he got booted for the same type of behavior on Twitter - you can look at the mentions he was getting showing a hive of QAnon and proto-fascist nuttery and calls for violence against those targets.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:30:39am

Those routing centers are hardened. The explosion may have tripped some breakers feeding some servers and beasty routers/switches but probably 100% of that gear is active UPS systems with battery backup. Some of the hardware closest to the blast area might be trashed most of that stuff kept chugging along.

If there’s some outages it might be AT&T doing some maintenance, reboots, etc. Doesn’t look like any big damage to that building. You can see the blast wave compression on the sheet metal sides of the building. It def took a beating.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:31:41am

re: #57 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

Yeah, was just noting that he got booted for the same type of behavior on Twitter - you can look at the mentions he was getting showing a hive of QAnon and proto-fascist nuttery and calls for violence against those targets.

My surpised face, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:32:34am

Woo,

Just remembered that I hatched 11 years ago today. Been a long and sometimes bumpy ride, folks.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:34:10am

re: #58 BigPapa
I was looking at a square hole in the sidewalk, I bet a lot of pressure blew into the lower levels.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:35:38am

NOTE:

CL’d (May Peace Be Upon Her)

re: #246 TedStriker

When I heard that characteristic WHOMP that I’d heard so many times on MythBusters (particularly when they blew up the concrete truck), I thought the same was likely, but, while it looks bad from the pics and video so far, the damage doesn’t seem to line up with that possibility, unless the bomb was botched.

If it were a proper ANFO bomb, Second Ave would look like the remains of the Murrah building.

Exactly. This was a show attack. A countdown broadcast on a PA for 15 minutes?

If you want to kill people, you don’t start yelling “Run away! I’m a bomb!”

This reminds of IRA attacks during the Troubles more than a Taliban car bomb. They called them in, or tried to, most of the time.

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:36:55am

re: #44 BigPapa

Nice shot. No windows, lots of AC equipment on the roof. Racks and racks of servers and copper and fiber.

Yeah, reminds me of the switching location in my city, which is located 4.5 miles thataway >>> straight shot.

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steve_davis  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:37:21am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Seriously, just fuck this guy.

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in fairness, the people who write the stories are almost never the people who write the headlines, and the headline writers are normally trying to create a headline that matches the correct font size for the column size. To do that, they often get very creative with word choice. It’s entirely possible “jam” got used because it was short.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:37:51am

Still dreading that something will happen to Biden before he takes office.

This is a country full of violent, and very delusional, people.

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gwangung  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:38:45am

re: #64 steve_davis

in fairness, the people who write the stories are almost never the people who write the headlines, and the headline writers are normally trying to create a headline that matches the correct font size for the column size. To do that, they often get very creative with word choice. It’s entirely possible “jam” got used because it was short.

Yeah, but….”political theatre”? When they’ve had $2K on Moscow Mitch’s desk for seven months?

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:39:30am

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

Yup, good point. If that blast happened right over conduits with lots of copper/fiber that would be much more effective to ‘take out’ the facility. Single mode fiber is glass and would probably shatter.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:41:13am

re: #62 austin_blue

NOTE:

CL’d (May Peace Be Upon Her)

re: #246 TedStriker

When I heard that characteristic WHOMP that I’d heard so many times on MythBusters (particularly when they blew up the concrete truck), I thought the same was likely, but, while it looks bad from the pics and video so far, the damage doesn’t seem to line up with that possibility, unless the bomb was botched.

If it were a proper ANFO bomb, Second Ave would look like the remains of the Murrah building.

Exactly. This was a show attack. A countdown broadcast on a PA for 15 minutes?

If you want to kill people, you don’t start yelling “Run away! I’m a bomb!”

This reminds of IRA attacks during the Troubles more than a Taliban car bomb. They called them in, or tried to, most of the time.

Actually, I was thinking that it might have been a trial run type of bombing. Doing it on the early morning where nobody is going to be wandering around the downtown area of a moderate sized city indicates that they were wanting to see how much damage would be done with minimal risk to life, and whether all of the parts worked.

I worry that around January 6 or more likely January 20, the real attack happens.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:41:22am

re: #65 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Still dreading that something will happen to Biden before he takes office.

This is a country full of violent, and very delusional, people.

I have faith in the Secret Service.

I have confidence in the ability of VP Harris to step up, as needed.

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steve_davis  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:41:41am

re: #66 gwangung

Yeah, but….”political theatre”? When they’ve had $2K on Moscow Mitch’s desk for seven months?

yeah, that part was because the writer was a dick :-)

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:42:20am

I took the opportunity this morning to scroll through the transcript of the sermon preached last Sunday by Pasture Eric Jones. (YouTube will create these transcripts so I don’t have to listen to his yelling.) He spent time bashing California for its COVID-19 response, which includes fining recalcitrant churches, so I spent some time letting him know what a horrible person he, how he and his church are not being persecuted and that he ought to go over to LA and volunteer to move bodies into refrigerated trucks. Then I took a look at the LA Times’ front page and saw this:

L.A. County hospitals running dangerously low on oxygen, supplies as ER units are overwhelmed
Clearing emergency rooms becomes vital as hospitals struggle with critical patients.

latimes.com

And I went back to leave another comment, and, in honor of the holiday, a triple dog dare for him to address this in his Sunday sermon.

Why no, I am not a nice person. Whatever gave you that idea?

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:42:53am

re: #58 BigPapa

Those routing centers are hardened. The explosion may have tripped some breakers feeding some servers and beasty routers/switches but probably 100% of that gear is active UPS systems with battery backup. Some of the hardware closest to the blast area might be trashed most of that stuff kept chugging along.

If there’s some outages it might be AT&T doing some maintenance, reboots, etc. Doesn’t look like any big damage to that building. You can see the blast wave compression on the sheet metal sides of the building. It def took a beating.

Look at this. Nashville search at down detector
downdetector.com

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:43:14am

re: #69 wrenchwench

I have faith in the Secret Service.

I have confidence in the ability of VP Harris to step up, as needed.

I don’t think anything happens to them. But if on the 20ths there are terror attacks around the country, that will - among other obvious things - poison the beginning of the Biden-Harris presidency.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:43:52am

re: #72 Rightwingconspirator

Look at this.
downdetector.com

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That seems to indicate it might be disaster-related overloading, rather than damage done as a direct result of the incident. However, anything’s an option right now.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:45:35am

re: #71 mmmirele

Why no, I am not a nice person. Whatever gave you that idea?

‘Nice’ can mean so many things. I wish I were more like you, what ever it’s properly called.

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thecommodore  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:45:44am
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stpaulbear  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:47:05am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

There seem to be more assholes than usual on Twitter this morning.

Their families are sick of talking to them.

(edited for grammar)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:49:06am

re: #64 steve_davis

in fairness, the people who write the stories are almost never the people who write the headlines, and the headline writers are normally trying to create a headline that matches the correct font size for the column size. To do that, they often get very creative with word choice. It’s entirely possible “jam” got used because it was short.

Editors still review that stuff. And probably pay special attention to headlines since that is often what draws a potential reader into paying further attention to the article.

And given that paper’s previous editorial slants on things I have no particular reason to grant them slack now.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:50:11am

re: #68 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

Though Christmas Day will also garner you a lot more press coverage once the word gets out.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:52:15am

re: #76 thecommodore

The crying and screaming as unanticipated consequences come forth and roost?

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:54:13am
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A Cranky One  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:55:05am

re: #74 thedopefishlives

That seems to indicate it might be disaster-related overloading, rather than damage done as a direct result of the incident. However, anything’s an option right now.

The networks are designed from the start with a lot of redundancy; it looks like the transition period as traffic is rerouted.

While the equipment may have survived (although there is a lot of old circuit switching that may not be considered repairable or worth repairing), without proper cooling and power the center can’t run for long; the UPS is only good for short intervals.

I do worry this is a dry run.

Fuck 2020.

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:56:34am

Well, the Ravi Zacharias scandal has made it out of the religion bubble and to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Sexual misconduct allegations against late Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias confirmed by ongoing investigation

*snip*

“Sadly, the interim investigation update indicates this assessment of Ravi’s behavior to be true — that he did indeed engage in sexual misconduct,” according to the statement. “This misconduct is deeply troubling and wholly inconsistent with the man Ravi Zacharias presented both publicly and privately to so many over more than four decades of public ministry. We are heartbroken at learning this but feel it necessary to be transparent and to inform our staff, donors, and supporters at this time, even while the investigation continues. We will speak more comprehensively to all concerned after the completion of the investigation.”

ajc.com

The full report is due out “early” next year.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:57:52am

re: #82 A Cranky One

The networks are designed from the start with a lot of redundancy; it looks like the transition period as traffic is rerouted.

While the equipment may have survived (although there is a lot of old circuit switching that may not be considered repairable or worth repairing), without proper cooling and power the center can’t run for long; the UPS is only good for short intervals.

I do worry this is a dry run.

Fuck 2020.

I worry about that as well. As well as copycritters.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:57:54am

re: #76 thecommodore

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This is why that ass was fired.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:58:00am
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stpaulbear  Dec 25, 2020 • 11:58:38am

re: #73 Nyet

I don’t think anything happens to them. But if on the 20ths there are terror attacks around the country, that will - among other obvious things - poison the beginning of the Biden-Harris presidency.

Hoping that it will more poison the republicans for encouraging traitorous violence. I think many people would wake up and rally behind Joe. Again, my hope.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:01:38pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

You are not the only one.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:08:51pm

re: #73 Nyet

I don’t think anything happens to them. But if on the 20ths there are terror attacks around the country, that will - among other obvious things - poison the beginning of the Biden-Harris presidency.

I fully expect the Proud Boys, 3%ers, militias, radical Xtians and other magats to get violent on January 20th. Seeing how relatives are involved with these assholes and are boasting that they will form a human shield around the White House to keep Trump in the Presidency—well I hope that Joe calls out the National Guard and whips their wimpy asses.

And the Republicans need to be held responsible for this shit.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:10:22pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:11:32pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:14:08pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

Well, I was putting away the marble pie rolling board after making the blind-baked pie crust, and it slipped out of my hands and fell on my foot.

I don’t think it is broken (my foot, not the pie board which is just fine!) but I’m keeping it (the foot) elevated.

OUCH! Hope it feels better soon.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:15:09pm

Pretty upbeat for Kerouac.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:15:17pm

re: #80 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The crying and screaming as unanticipated consequences come forth and roost?

I understand the 3% all too well.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:24:58pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:27:23pm

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:28:02pm

In case anyone missed this from last night…

Meanwhile, while nobody was watching, one or more Secret Santa(s) contributed enough for ELEVEN one year ad-free subscriptions. I didn’t want to play favorites with these gifts, so I scanned the DB for the users who were not subscribed or had a manual subscription (not Paypal) running out soon, then ran a short script on it to pick 11 users at random. And here’s the list of our lucky ad-free winners:

gocart mozart
A Three Hour Tour
danarchy
oaktree
Cheechako
efuseakay
Unabogie
decatur deb
mracb
IngisKahn
jamesfirecat
Teukka

Please enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:30:57pm

Was very low-key here. Some coffee and oatmeal for breakfast. Read for a while and then did a 90 minute long Zoom call with immediate family and some friends/acquaintances of my brother and niece.*

Eggnog, with rum, now and thinking about another meal.

* - 9 people, four cats, and a dog. Pile of geologists, a biologist, an astrophysicist, and one computer scientist. And the dog wore a hat for part of the call.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:34:16pm
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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:37:58pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gemütlichkeit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:38:38pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:39:23pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

I feel sorry for the cat that shitted him out.
//

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:39:45pm

We had a case like that RN up here a couple of weeks ago. A member of a small-town school board got busted for linking an image from the Daily Stormer with clear anti-semitic meanings (I haven’t seen the image, just read about in the local paper). Other members of the board and the community are demanding that she step down. She claims she had no idea with the DS is and didn’t understand the anti-semitic implications and so everyone was being so unfair and now she’s getting threats and no one likes her and …. good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:41:24pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:42:21pm

re: #98 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Was very low-key here. Some coffee and oatmeal for breakfast. Read for a while and then did a 90 minute long Zoom call with immediate family and some friends/acquaintances of my brother and niece.*

Eggnog, with rum, now and thinking about another meal.

* - 9 people, four cats, and a dog. Pile of geologists, a biologist, an astrophysicist, and one computer scientist. And the dog wore a hat for part of the call.

Did a FaceTime call with my parents while Mrs. Fish was cooking bacon, sausage, and cinnamon rolls for breakfast, then opened gifts. Quiche was for lunch. Ham for dinner, currently baking. Dunno what’s going to go with it. Mrs. Fish says she is closing the kitchen after tonight; not that she needed to say it, that’s a lot of cooking.

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:42:47pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

In case anyone missed this from last night…

Meanwhile, while nobody was watching, one or more Secret Santa(s) contributed enough for ELEVEN one year ad-free subscriptions. I didn’t want to play favorites with these gifts, so I scanned the DB for the users who were not subscribed or had a manual subscription (not Paypal) running out soon, then ran a short script on it to pick 11 users at random. And here’s the list of our lucky ad-free winners:

gocart mozart
A Three Hour Tour
danarchy
oaktree
Cheechako
efuseakay
Unabogie
decatur deb
mracb
IngisKahn
jamesfirecat
Teukka

Please enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

Nope: didn’t miss it, and I notice that there are still TWELVE names on the list. Santa leave a bonus in someone’s stocking??

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:45:59pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:47:57pm

Gotta say, this is actually a distinct possibility to bear in mind regarding the bombing in Nashville:

Could easily be a former employee, maybe someone who got laid off or fired, and now has an axe to grind against AT&T.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:47:58pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

Bear poop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:48:04pm
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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:48:52pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

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He needs this…

Brylcreem TV Commercial 1950’s

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:49:10pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting (if a trifle disappointing) that they got a picture of the vehicle, but not one of the driver. Except that he/she seem to be wearing a white hat. Not useful for narrowing things down.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:49:57pm

re: #112 Jay C

Interesting (if a trifle disappointing) that they got a picture of the vehicle, but not one of the driver. Except that he/she seem to be wearing a white hat. Not useful for narrowing things down.

Should have been a black hat. /

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:50:10pm

re: #102 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I feel sorry for the cat that shitted him out.
//

Don’t worry, he feels WAY better now.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:50:41pm

re: #106 Jay C

Nope: didn’t miss it, and I notice that there are still TWELVE names on the list. Santa leave a bonus in someone’s stocking??

Oh yes, I forgot to mention that I threw in an extra present!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:51:22pm
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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:51:59pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kinda disappointed there weren’t any Trump 2020 flags flying from that RV, it’s probably the only one in the nation without one.

//

ANTIFA guys don’t have jobs or credit so it obviously ain’t one of theirs.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:52:13pm

re: #116 The Pie Overlord!

They look delicious.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:52:29pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

In case anyone missed this from last night…

Meanwhile, while nobody was watching, one or more Secret Santa(s) contributed enough for ELEVEN one year ad-free subscriptions. I didn’t want to play favorites with these gifts, so I scanned the DB for the users who were not subscribed or had a manual subscription (not Paypal) running out soon, then ran a short script on it to pick 11 users at random. And here’s the list of our lucky ad-free winners:

gocart mozart
A Three Hour Tour
danarchy
oaktree
Cheechako
efuseakay
Unabogie
decatur deb
mracb
IngisKahn
jamesfirecat
Teukka

Please enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

Thank you very much :) :) :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:52:54pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:52:55pm

re: #112 Jay C

Interesting (if a trifle disappointing) that they got a picture of the vehicle, but not one of the driver. Except that he/she seem to be wearing a white hat. Not useful for narrowing things down.

Millicent, enhance this shitty image!

Well it works on TV.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:55:05pm

Last stack of “Your Lie in April” episode watch in progress:

7!! - Orange Full Version [PV]+Lyrics

I don’t think I’ll be able to hear this song again without teh feels…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:55:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:56:00pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Gotta say, this is actually a distinct possibility to bear in mind regarding the bombing in Nashville:

[Embedded content]

Could easily be a former employee, maybe someone who got laid off or fired, and now has an axe to grind against AT&T.

A personal gripe against AT&T? Have to say that would not be surprising at all — from either employees or customers. But taking such an extreme action is definitely out of the ordinary but it would not be shocking to learn of that type of motivation.

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:56:34pm

re: #98 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Was very low-key here. Some coffee and oatmeal for breakfast. Read for a while and then did a 90 minute long Zoom call with immediate family and some friends/acquaintances of my brother and niece.*

Eggnog, with rum, now and thinking about another meal.

* - 9 people, four cats, and a dog. Pile of geologists, a biologist, an astrophysicist, and one computer scientist. And the dog wore a hat for part of the call.

We’re so low-key that we haven’t done our Christmas Zoom yet. This is out of deference to people wanting to sleep in, and then my granddaughter’s nap schedule. She’s too young (18 months) to know she “should” have gotten her gifts in the morning and the rest of us are adults and can wait. Gifts are kind of limited anyway. I’m sure our kids have gifts for their spouses, and everyone has gifts for our granddaughter, but the majority will be our charitable contributions to the organizations chosen by the people involved. Mr. C. and I aren’t exchanging gifts because we don’t need anything we don’t have. Except maybe that box under the tree which is very likely to contain a picture of our granddaughter-it is oozing cuteness right through the wrapping. ;)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:56:46pm

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

A personal gripe against AT&T? Have to say that would not be surprising at all — from either employees or customers. But taking such an extreme action is definitely out of the ordinary but it would not be shocking to learn of that type of motivation.

We’ve had disgruntled workers shoot up their former workplaces before. Blowing one up is definitely unusual, but plausible.

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makeitstop  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:56:48pm

re: #112 Jay C

Interesting (if a trifle disappointing) that they got a picture of the vehicle, but not one of the driver. Except that he/she seem to be wearing a white hat. Not useful for narrowing things down.

Does anyone know if TN requires two license plates? If not, that would indicate an out-of-state vehicle.

They must have gotten shots of that RV on other traffic cams in the city.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 12:58:56pm

Tired of this…another friend just passed away from COVID.

I’ll just go on the net and play chess to get my mind off of this crap…

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:01:30pm

re: #121 Eventual Carrion

Millicent, enhance this shitty image!

Well it works on TV.

Yeah: on most television procedurals, the squadroom computer-geek just zooms a couple of frames, presses a few keys, and produces a picture of the perp of studio-portrait quality: which about 3 seconds of “facial recognition” flipping immediately identifies as the second-tier actor playing the bomber. Leading to a dramatic break-in by the heroes, just before the commercial break….

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:04:16pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Does anyone know if TN requires two license plates? If not, that would indicate an out-of-state vehicle.

They must have gotten shots of that RV on other traffic cams in the city.

Earlier reports said the RV didn’t have any plates on it: one of the things that got them suspicious about it.
Another thing may have been the recorded “bomb” warning blaring out…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:06:46pm

re: #128 🌹UOJB!

Sorry to hear you lost another friend. This has surely been a difficult time for you, in this pandemic.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:07:33pm

re: #128 🌹UOJB!

Tired of this…another friend just passed away from COVID.

I’ll just go on the net and play chess to get my mind off of this crap…

{{{Joe Bacon}}}

No words. Sorry to hear this.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:08:29pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:09:27pm

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

AT&T has been RIFing folks like mad this year.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:10:50pm

re: #130 Jay C

Earlier reports said the RV didn’t have any plates on it: one of the things that got them suspicious about it.
Another thing may have been the recorded “bomb” warning blaring out…

The bomber may have taken the plates off to make it more difficult for authorities to ID the owner of the vehicle (unless the bomber stole the vehicle prior to blowing it up) but probably didn’t stop to think that the vehicle could be ID’d through VIN or serial number from the debris. Now if the bomber stole the vehicle just before loading it up with explosives and then driving it to its destination, setting the recorded warning and presumably some kind of detonator or timer, then it could be difficult to apprehend the bomber, unless there’s a clear CCTV image of him.

Off to bed; have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:13:31pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

PzvVkI5BlO44iYHMNhVFj6+AHuvNTi7uXLpSh8PZuOh2c766NMelxchdb3mweGZOn4ZwA8DCkJhG/jUzTvBw8SeDSb9vksxQp5xF+8XPtOosIkU1KQf5Dm+t4z96jmvrJkOv2mDeujChXFzlrC8zLy0ss6otZn77tI/YyntceBiZGO/diROIXcvoa5dy7s/gXP+v3QCdaLUDN/WPodoT28Qo7eV5ZOft3Q0A/VEOpblLmCQJNSS0m9G+X+xyxERdp3muPtjsCGfvq+NQfJbmaJVVfeAotzQbIhMj13ndd8OclVIHUrST19llU9pYBA4cFk+/JTp//aBYHi6fZj/cUAW2E5Bg4Nq0Ci5eeFQPbWMMXxuIItReXLOmhSkmYXHWexZQZQOXKKhVuoD+kiKmD+U1pIBj4McnB6nM0bNOcc1jFS6GsgzcFw==

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:13:34pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Does anyone know if TN requires two license plates? If not, that would indicate an out-of-state vehicle.

They must have gotten shots of that RV on other traffic cams in the city.

I think there is a requirement in Tennessee that the front license plate represents a NASCAR driver/car, or is that North Carolina?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:14:56pm

Mrs. Fish pulled the ham out of the oven. This is the first time she’s ever done her own glaze; of course, because it’s Mrs. Fish, it tastes amazeballs. She has a pan of parmesan-dusted vegetables to go into the oven and roast now.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:15:20pm

A few tweets later, the creator is identified. FOUL MOUTHED CUPCAKE QUEEN

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:16:24pm
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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:18:02pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

No relation to the Pie Overlord?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:20:59pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:21:11pm

re: #141 Nyet

No relation to the Pie Overlord?

Same school, it looks like.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:28:26pm
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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:31:16pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Same school, it looks like.

Sounds fishy!

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:31:21pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, the argument here is that there’s no point in trying to be a better person because Christianity doesn’t require that of us-unlike the world’s other religions. All we need to do is wait for a deity to come along and save us from ourselves. Furthermore he has no proof any of that is true or useful. Strangely uncompelling.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:31:47pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

We’ve had disgruntled workers shoot up their former workplaces before. Blowing one up is definitely unusual, but plausible.

Almost 40 years ago, back when I was working for a small local actuarial firm, an employee of one of our clients who feared he was going to lose his job shot and killed both the president and the comptroller of the firm. It was an unbelievable shock to all of us.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:33:12pm

re: #112 Jay C

Interesting (if a trifle disappointing) that they got a picture of the vehicle, but not one of the driver. Except that he/she seem to be wearing a white hat. Not useful for narrowing things down.

It helps a lot. Someone could recognize it as looking like a neighbor’s RV, look outside and see if it’s still parked there. If it’s not, call local LEOs

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:39:25pm

re: #141 Nyet

No relation to the Pie Overlord?

LOL

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:40:46pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Almost 40 years ago, back when I was working for a small local actuarial firm, an employee of one of our clients who feared he was going to lose his job shot and killed both the president and the comptroller of the firm. It was an unbelievable shock to all of us.

When I worked at a previous small company, we had an employee who was dismissed who must have made some sort of threat, as we were told that if we ever saw him hanging around the building or on the video doorbell, to alert the Big Boss immediately and not interact with him. Made me wonder what went down at his dismissal.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:46:43pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just looking at Asshole D’Stupid’s face nauseates me.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:47:28pm

re: #151 🌹UOJB!

Just looking at Asshole D’Stupid’s face nauseates me.

That proves that you are a decent human.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:48:44pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Almost 40 years ago, back when I was working for a small local actuarial firm, an employee of one of our clients who feared he was going to lose his job shot and killed both the president and the comptroller of the firm. It was an unbelievable shock to all of us.

It may have been the guy in charge of the Telegraph department of AT&T?

//

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A Mom Anon  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:49:06pm

re: #151 🌹UOJB!

Just looking at Asshole D’Stupid’s face nauseates me.

I’m pissed off I even know who he is. And why is he even still a “thing”? Being paid to write stupid things should not be a marketable skill. He’s just creepy.

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Alephnaught  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:49:51pm

A live version of Sufjan Steven’s “Christmas Unicorn”.

Sufjan Stevens - Christmas Unicorn

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:49:58pm

re: #154 A Mom Anon

I’m pissed off I even know who he is. And why is he even still a “thing”? Being paid to write stupid things should not be a marketable skill. He’s just creepy.

Dinesh D’umbass is still around because his palaver still sells among that significant proportion of the American population that has undergone an auto-lobotomy.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:50:10pm

I’m waiting for Mattel to make a Barbie doll of Kamala and a Ken doll of Joe to piss off my brainwashed relatives…

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:51:03pm

re: #151 🌹UOJB!

Just looking at Asshole D’Stupid’s face nauseates me.

I’ll never understand the people who hitch their wagons to the most horrible people on the planet.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:54:02pm

re: #158 b.d. (We Won!)

I’ll never understand the people who hitch their wagons to the most horrible people on the planet.

They want to feel important and superior to everyone else.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:54:10pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:55:49pm

re: #154 A Mom Anon

I’m pissed off I even know who he is.

You can blame William F. Buckley for his foisting that trainwreck of a human being onto an unsuspecting public as part of the “Firing Line” debates.

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Cheechako  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:56:30pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

In case anyone missed this from last night…

Meanwhile, while nobody was watching, one or more Secret Santa(s) contributed enough for ELEVEN one year ad-free subscriptions. I didn’t want to play favorites with these gifts, so I scanned the DB for the users who were not subscribed or had a manual subscription (not Paypal) running out soon, then ran a short script on it to pick 11 users at random. And here’s the list of our lucky ad-free winners:

gocart mozart
A Three Hour Tour
danarchy
oaktree
Cheechako
efuseakay
Unabogie
decatur deb
mracb
IngisKahn
jamesfirecat
Teukka

Please enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

Thank you Secret Santa

and Thank You Charles for being selected and for inviting us to join such a quality site for informative discussion and fantastic music.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 25, 2020 • 1:57:37pm
164
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:05:31pm
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Alephnaught  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:07:35pm

re: #160 🌹UOJB!

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Video

I’ve not quite yet been able to find a place for that in my Christmas mixes. Unlike “Christmas Unicorn”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:09:56pm

Wow - somewhere back, I crossed 25,000+ karma points. Hopefully the karma points will be useful in trying to install the Samsung Galaxy Watch3’s ECG monitoring binaries on both the watch and my non-Samsung phone (Google Pixel 4) - even tho I really don’t need the ECG functionality, as there is a much cheaper device that does a great job on monitoring for atrial fibrillation that I got for my mother.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:13:33pm

re: #163 🌹UOJB!

I know Yogi from this:

Yogi Yorgesson - Cookies and Pie

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:17:38pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:18:39pm

I suppose Christmas wouldn’t be the same without the usual hauling out of Dan Fogelberg:

Dan Fogelberg - Same Old Lang Syne (from Live: Greetings from the West)


The backstory is here.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:23:00pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:23:34pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Gotta say, this is actually a distinct possibility to bear in mind regarding the bombing in Nashville:

[Embedded content]

Could easily be a former employee, maybe someone who got laid off or fired, and now has an axe to grind against AT&T.

John Oliver.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:29:38pm

re: #171 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Now the question becomes - was it a victim, or the perp?

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PrairieQueen  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:31:57pm

re: #171 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Aren’t human remains the term they use when the person has been dead awhile? I would think if it was a death caused by the explosion it would be referred to as “killed in the explosion” or “death caused by.” I wonder if there was a dead body in the RV before the explosion.

Creepy as fuck, whatever the case.

And I don’t mean to be a downer, but if this is in any way related to Trump or attributed to one of his rabid supporters, I would think he would do everything he could to obstruct the investigation.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:33:07pm

re: #174 PrairieQueen

I don’t think he would be able to, it’s a state business and he’s a lame duck.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:33:43pm

re: #173 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now the question becomes - was it a victim, or the perp?

My lizard brain thinks it might be the owner of the vehicle, and not necessarily “the perp”

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:33:49pm

re: #174 PrairieQueen

“Remains” may describe a deposit of mist and some bone chips.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:34:17pm

re: #174 PrairieQueen

Aren’t human remains the term they use when the person has been dead awhile? I would think if it was a death caused by the explosion it would be referred to as “killed in the explosion” or “death caused by.” I wonder if there was a dead body in the RV before the explosion.

“human remains” can also refer to body parts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:34:34pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:34:44pm

re: #167 Nyet

Crikies, there’s at least several Youtube channels where people do all sorts of nasty things under all sorts of conditions using physical testers.

There’s also a Youtube channel from someone who calls himself the Crazy Russian Hacker

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Semper Fi  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:34:49pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

Well, I was putting away the marble pie rolling board after making the blind-baked pie crust, and it slipped out of my hands and fell on my foot.

I don’t think it is broken (my foot, not the pie board which is just fine!) but I’m keeping it (the foot) elevated.

ICE! Use ice to numb your foot into forgetting it was hurt. 20 min ON and 20 min OFF the first day.
It works.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:34:59pm

“I want to play a game”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:37:51pm

re: #174 PrairieQueen

Aren’t human remains the term they use when the person has been dead awhile? I would think if it was a death caused by the explosion it would be referred to as “killed in the explosion” or “death caused by.” I wonder if there was a dead body in the RV before the explosion.

Human remains can be old unidentified bodies or parts, and relatively fresh(ish) unidentified indistinguishable tissue masses/fragments

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My lizard brain thinks it might be the owner of the vehicle, and not necessarily “the perp”

Possibly. Would take a bit of time to setup the explosives, whatever triggering method was needed, the PA system to play the “warning”, etc in the vehicle. If stolen you would not want a stolen vehicle report going out for a vehicle as easy to spot as a large RV. Kill owner, stash body for a bit, then blow up remains in explosion. Maybe even try to use it as red herring of a death by accidental explosion.

Or I could be wrong.

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PrairieQueen  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:40:16pm

re: #184 Eventual Carrion

Kill owner, stash body for a bit, then blow up remains in explosion. Maybe even try to use it as red herring of a death by accidental explosion.

Sounds likely. Also sounds like this has a good chance of being solved.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:40:29pm

O_o

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:41:33pm

If you did want to do a test run of something like that, Christmas morning is a good time as downtown would be practically deserted and human impacts would be minimal.

Although the disgruntled employee theory seems plausible to me too because crippling the companies network when most of the senior engineers and such are off for the Holidays would ensure maximum impact.

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makeitstop  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:42:35pm

re: #185 PrairieQueen

Sounds likely. Also sounds like this has a good chance of being solved.

I was honestly surprised they got an ID on the vehicle so quickly.

They’ll find out where it came from. Everybody and their uncle has got surveillance/security cams up and running nowadays.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:43:00pm

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

If you did want to do a test run of something like that, Christmas morning is a good time as downtown would be practically deserted and human impacts would be minimal.

Although the disgruntled employee theory seems plausible to me too because crippling the companies network when most of the senior engineers and such are off for the Holidays would ensure maximum impact.

The problem being, it would generate major headlines. If you’re doing a test run, you generally want to keep it out of the public eye.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:44:01pm

re: #188 makeitstop

I was honestly surprised they got an ID on the vehicle so quickly.

They’ll find out where it came from. Everybody and their uncle has got surveillance/security cams up and running nowadays.

It took 2 days for them to link McVeigh and Nichols (who were already sitting in jail on unrelated charges) to the truck used to bomb the Murrah Building.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:44:01pm

re: #185 PrairieQueen

Sounds likely. Also sounds like this has a good chance of being solved.

Colombo could do it in an hour.

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PrairieQueen  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:44:24pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or, the magazines had better and less controversial covers, and didn’t feel a cold blooded golddigger with the slit-eyes of a reptile was the best choice as their cover girl. (No disrespect to actual snakes.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:45:11pm

re: #184 Eventual Carrion

Possibly. Would take a bit of time to setup the explosives, whatever triggering method was needed, the PA system to play the “warning”, etc in the vehicle. If stolen you would not want a stolen vehicle report going out for a vehicle as easy to spot as a large RV. Kill owner, stash body for a bit, then blow up remains in explosion. Maybe even try to use it as red herring of a death by accidental explosion.

Or I could be wrong.

If you goy a decent RV, good chance you got a freezer in the garage
And, experience tells me, you can mix and emplace & prime hundreds of pounds of ANFO in hours, not days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:45:33pm
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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:45:56pm

re: #191 Eventual Carrion

Colombo could do it in an hour.

Just one more thing…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:46:51pm

The Nashville bombing is pretty sophisticated for a disgruntled employee type motive
Otoh, it would hardly be a surprise that an AT&T employee would have fairly high level technical skills.
The elaborate warning tends to mitigate against RWNJ politicals. They love to fantasize about killing. It is at the very center of their cultural pathology.
If the perp was in the RV when it detonated it would be understandable that it has taken so long to discover remains.

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PrairieQueen  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:48:57pm

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

If the perp was in the RV when it detonated it would be understandable that it has taken so long to discover remains.

Let’s hope one of his/her inbred relatives is on one of those DNA ancestry websites, and the backtrack on the vehicle yields some clues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:49:13pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:49:29pm

re: #195 Nyet

Just one more thing…

I’m not too clear on this one point. My wife, she …

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:53:01pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:53:40pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:54:07pm

*snerk*

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:55:59pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:56:03pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Got our cat one of these couple weeks ago and she loves it. She was always wanting the faucet in the bathroom turned on for a drink. She took to this right off.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:58:11pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:58:20pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:58:40pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

*snerk*

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This got me a lengthy suspension on FB

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 2:59:35pm

re: #207 EstebanTornado1963

This got me a lengthy suspension on FB

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Are those the old or new kidneys?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:00:27pm

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Are those the old or new kidneys?

they ain’t the originals

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:01:11pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

My friends at Martin House Brewery in Fort Worth came out with a Die Hard Double IPA of Nakatomi Plaza!

martinhousebrewing.com

8% alc!

Welcome to the party, pal!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:01:47pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:03:10pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

You have to at least once. For Prof. Snape if for nothing else.

Edit: Bad speling, spalleng, forget it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:03:21pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:05:10pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

Alan Rickman is the bad guy in it….that is enough of a reason to watch it.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:05:40pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

Watch the first 3. Forget the rest.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:07:45pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

Think of it as seeing Alan Rickman as the bad guy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:08:08pm

re: #215 Nyet

Watch the first 3. Forget the rest.

Live Free or Die Hard is my favorite.

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stpaulbear  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:25:46pm

re: #157 🌹UOJB!

I’m waiting for Mattel to make a Barbie doll of Kamala and a Ken doll of Joe to piss off my brainwashed relatives…

Send them all ‘Happy New Year!’ greetings on Jan 20.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2020 • 3:46:23pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

I still need to see the original Die Hard. I’m not a huge Bruce Willis fan, but everybody and their mother seems to have seen it.

I’m not either but the role fits him to a T and I watch it at least once a year. It’s just a near perfect film of it’s type. The rest, to me, aren’t even close.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 25, 2020 • 6:15:06pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Side effect (possible desired effect?) of this is that one can now roll or park an RV or large van someplace and play that warning over a loudspeaker inside just to cause chaos.


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