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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:16:48pm

CL’d of course:

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We don’t have rent, or house or car payments. $600 would cover all our utilities for a couple months. It would cover about one year of property tax.

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My property taxes are $1000.

A month.

We paid $150,000 for the house 23 years ago.

Texas, where tax law makes the rich richer and the middle class a vanishing breed.

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:28:53pm

re: #1 austin_blue

CL’d of course:

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We don’t have rent, or house or car payments. $600 would cover all our utilities for a couple months. It would cover about one year of property tax.

———————-
My property taxes are $1000.

A month.

We paid $150,000 for the house 23 years ago.

Texas, where tax law makes the rich richer and the middle class a vanishing breed.

But I was told that Texas doesn’t have taxes and that’s why so many people want to live there instead of California?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:30:37pm

re: #60 austin_blue

My property taxes are $1000.

A month.

We paid $150,000 for the house 23 years ago.

Texas, where tax law makes the rich richer and the middle class a vanishing breed.

In other words, your tax rate is way lower than ours, since we paid $18,000 for our house in 2011. (Nebraska has some of the highest property taxes in the USA.)

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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:30:50pm

re: #2 KGxvi

But I was told that Texas doesn’t have taxes and that’s why so many people want to live there instead of California?

The lack of an income tax and cheap housing is why so many Cali folks are moving here.

Will you please take Elon back?

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:32:09pm

re: #2 KGxvi

But I was told that Texas doesn’t have taxes and that’s why so many people want to live there instead of California?

Texas doesn’t have a state income tax, but it has personal property taxes and high state and local sales taxes to make up the difference.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:34:14pm

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:39:30pm

re: #4 austin_blue

The lack of an income tax and cheap housing is why so many Cali folks are moving here.

Will you please take Elon back?

We will not. It was actually one of the 37 propositions on the ballot last month

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gocart mozart  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:40:39pm
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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:42:29pm

re: #5 A Three Hour Tour

Texas doesn’t have a state income tax, but it has personal property taxes and high state and local sales taxes to make up the difference.

I wonder what the ideal state/local tax regime would be. I suppose part of it depends on your policy goals/preferences, but I feel like no state really has a good/smart tax policy

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:55:10pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 28, 2020 • 8:58:27pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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” Sheik, man, what were you thinking? “

“Sheik did not think old man would hit Sheik with chair.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:04:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:05:41pm

Winter weather advisory stretches from central Michigan to western Nevada, including my whole state.

weather.gov (national map)

It’s been snowing here all day.

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:11:04pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Winter weather advisory stretches from central Michigan to western Nevada, including my whole state.

weather.gov (national map)

It’s been snowing here all day.

We got about 1-1.5 inches of rain in Southern California (depending on where you were). That might not seem like a lot, but we have only had about 6.5 inches for the year until today

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:13:47pm

Plump needs to go the fuck away forever.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:17:15pm

re: #14 KGxvi

We got about 1-1.5 inches of rain in Southern California (depending on where you were). That might not seem like a lot, but we have only had about 6.5 inches for the year until today

We’ve gotten more rain this year (but we’re still in drought).

The weather here is crap right now.

windy.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 9:25:57pm

Some call for Omaha City Council pick to quit over blog, but Councilman Gray and others defend her (Omaha World-Herald)

Republican and Democratic city councilmembers are still defending the extremely racist pick they made to fill out the term of another member who left the board.

Blog posts written by Colleen Brennan, the woman chosen to replace outgoing Omaha City Councilman Rich Pahls, have ignited a tense conversation on race.

Brennan, an account manager at an insurance marketing company, is scheduled to be sworn in Jan. 12. She was selected last week from 17 applicants to serve the remaining five months of Pahls’ term representing District 5, which covers southwest Omaha.

But some people have called for Brennan’s resignation after learning of posts on her website in which she wrote about race, politics, the coronavirus and more.

(more at the World-Herald, caution for extreme racist content at Ms. Brennan’s blog linked above)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 10:42:36pm

Elk fed amid concern about spread of chronic wasting disease (Scottsbluff, Nebr Star-Herald regional news)

JACKSON, Wyo. (AP) — Wildlife managers are forging into uncharted territory as they keep feeding elk in the southern Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem while knowing that concentrating thousands of animals on feed will likely exacerbate the spread of the fatal chronic wasting disease.

For the first time biologists also have detailed data showing just how bunched up elk are on northwest Wyoming’s historic feedgrounds as a result of doling out alfalfa pellets and hay during the harshest months of the year.

“Basically, elk contact rates were 2.6 times higher during the feed season,” National Elk Refuge Senior Biologist Eric Cole said. “During feeding operations themselves — when elk are actively being fed — we commonly have elk in densities of 1,000 elk per square kilometer.”

Comparing densities of unfed versus fed elk — results will be published soon in an academic journal — was possible due to the mild winter of 2017-18. That year virtually the entire 11,000-animal Jackson Herd wintered on the refuge when a near total absence of low-elevation snow negated the need for supplemental feed. Cole analyzed GPS data from dozens of elk adorned with tracking collars, deeming “close contact” to be any instance when two tracked animals came within 500 meters of each other.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:12:00pm

Good string. This makes a lot of sense and could well be the sword of Damocles hanging over the Trump regime and, indeed, the whole GOP. There could well be Russian kompromat involved too, which would make it incomparably worse than it already is.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:12:51pm

re: #9 KGxvi

I wonder what the ideal state/local tax regime would be. I suppose part of it depends on your policy goals/preferences, but I feel like no state really has a good/smart tax policy

Illinois has property taxes, income taxes, and sales taxes.

Sales taxes, of course, hit the working poor the most.

We had a chance to correct some of our financial problems in Illinois this year — but the rich and Republicans managed to persuade average voters that a flat income tax rate was preferable to a graduated rate. So we are stuck.

Retirement income is not taxed — probably to keep us retirees in the state rather than fleeing to some warmer climate that has no income tax. My retirement income (Social Security + 401ks + IRAs) is actually higher than my income while working — but my state income taxes have dropped precipitously thanks to this provision.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:20:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:22:00pm

We’re surrounded by crime.

DENVER (AP) — A grand jury indicted 12 people who were part of a group known as “The Family” on charges of committing a series of crimes, some at gunpoint, to fuel their methamphetamine addiction, the Denver district attorney announced Monday.

Members of the group are accused of stealing the identities of more than 240 victims and taking more than $550,000 in vehicles. They also are accused of stealing and selling weapons, bicycles, sports memorabilia, jewelry, electronics, money and other items between April 2019 and October 2020, according to a news release by Denver District Attorney Beth McCann.

Sarah Marie Lore, 38, was known as the “street mom” and controlled other members of the group through violence, prosecutors said. She is accused of negotiating deals in person and over Facebook to buy and sell stolen items. The other members were known as “street sons,” “brothers” and “sisters,” prosecutors said.

Lore’s lawyer, Melissa Roth, declined to comment.

The group shared money, property, food, clothing and living quarters, prosecutors say.

The 12 defendants have been variously charged with violating Colorado’s Organized Crime Control Act, identity theft, kidnapping, burglary, theft, criminal extortion and assault. Additional details on the crimes weren’t immediately available.

Denver grand jury indicts crime group known as ‘The Family’ (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:29:13pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

Nebraska has the same: sales tax, income tax, and property tax. Cities and villages can vote to add an extra 1/8th% to the sales tax for local projects.

Republicans in the Legislature have been trying (and failing) to ditch the income tax in favour of what they call a “consumption tax” (which they insist is not a sales tax). They’ve also tried to reduce the property tax (primarily pushed by large businesses as relief for farmers and ranchers).

Property taxes fund local government and schools. Schools where there is low revenue from the property tax are funded by an “equalisation payment” from the state every year (transferring money from income tax revenues to poor or rural schools).

Eliminating the income tax also has the goal of eliminating the equalisation payment, which would disadvantage poor (especially minority) and rural districts.

Additional attempts to undermine public school funding is vouchers for private (read religious) schools, which consistently fail in the Legislature because there are no private schools in the vast rural areas of the state. (However, that voucher bill only has to pass once and it would be awful hard to get rid of, and would damage public schools in the meantime—and that is a specific goal of our state governor).

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:39:36pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like your governor, ours is a billionaire but he’s a Democrat who spent $56 million of his own money promoting the “Fair Tax” to allow for graduated taxes in Illinois. Unfortunately this change required a constitutional amendment since our state constitution limits income taxes to a fixed percent of income over a flat exclusion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:46:47pm

re: #24 Hecuba’s daughter

Like your governor, ours is a billionaire but he’s a Democrat who spent $56 million of his own money promoting the “Fair Tax” to allow for graduated taxes in Illinois. Unfortunately this change required a constitutional amendment since our state constitution limits income taxes to a fixed percent of income over a flat exclusion.

Whereas our governor spent millions of his own money on a referendum to restart the death penalty in our state. Priorities.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 28, 2020 • 11:56:49pm

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

The “risk needle” has been lowered again (but is still in the “high risk of transmission” range).

All cities and villages in the Panhandle are at “high risk,” except Potter and Dix (Cheyenne County, severe risk), and Broadwater (Morrill County) and Lisco and Llewellen (Garden County) with no cases since the start of the outbreak.

Percentage positive cases: 40.2%⬇
Total cases: 7,527 (+6)
In hospital: 14⬇

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 12:01:46am

That would be his opponent in NE-1 in the last election, state senator Kate Bolz.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2020 • 12:02:40am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Whereas our governor spent millions of his own money on a referendum to restart the death penalty in our state. Priorities.

Our governor said back in August: “..it’s wrong that I would pay the same tax rate as someone earning $100,000 or, even worse, pay the same tax rate as someone earning $30,000.” A somewhat different perspective on priorities.

I do have to say that the Illinois governor who first instituted a moratorium on capital punishment was a Republican, George Ryan, who later went to prison for crimes he committed while Secretary of State, a position he held before becoming governor. It was under a subsequent Democratic governor, Pat Quinn, that the death penalty was finally abolished in 2011.

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 12:07:27am

re: #24 Hecuba’s daughter

Like your governor, ours is a billionaire but he’s a Democrat who spent $56 million of his own money promoting the “Fair Tax” to allow for graduated taxes in Illinois. Unfortunately this change required a constitutional amendment since our state constitution limits income taxes to a fixed percent of income over a flat exclusion.

we used to have a billionaire mayor in NYC… but he was liberal on a lot of issues. He turned all the waterfront in all 5 boroughs into public parks, installed bike lanes on the busiest avenues, did a lot for public health and energy efficiency, personally paid for years of music programs in the parks that became so popular there’s now enough donations to keep it going, improved the schools, built a ton of affordable housing, diversified the economy, temporarily raised income tax and property tax enough to get us a $6B rainy day fund, did an EXCELLENT job with superstorm Sandy, started and built a city-TV channel that’s sort of a local PBS (mostly arts and history programming)… His only real fuck-up was stop ‘n’ frisk, but the next mayor was able to eliminate that with an executive order.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 12:39:08am

Only the world wars have rivalled covid-19 for news coverage (The Economist)

GIVEN HOW much the world has changed in 2020, it is hard to fathom that the year was just one leap-day longer than 2019. On January 16th The Economist published its first article about a novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China, which at that point had been confirmed only as the cause of 42 infections and one death. Two weeks later, covid-19 made its debut on our cover. It returned there on February 27th, and held the slot for ten consecutive issues. The topic has claimed seven more covers since then.

Is the pandemic the biggest news story ever? The two world wars and the Spanish flu of 1918 caused far more deaths, as have various famines and genocides. However, covid-19 has altered people’s daily routines in almost every country, in a way that deadlier events did not. Moreover, fatality counts cannot quantify developments that have changed people’s lives for the better.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 1:13:40am

covid19.healthdata.org

Worldometer’s projected deaths in the USA are looking pretty grim: 567,195 by April 1, 2021. The charts give alternatives for various approaches (open everything up, masks, rapid rollout of the vaccines, easing of restrictions)

covid19.healthdata.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 1:32:23am

Yikes.

Joint Base Lewis-McChord colonel accused of beating wife during police stand-off (Stars & Stripes)

Caution for descriptions of violence against women and children

TACOMA, Wash. (Tribune News Service) — The chief of staff assigned to I Corps at Joint Base Lewis-McChord is accused of beating his wife in front of their children and repeatedly threatening to kill himself during a stand-off with police at the family’s DuPont home.

On Monday, Pierce County prosecutors charged Col. Owen Ray, 47, with first-degree kidnapping, two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of felony harassment and reckless endangerment. He is scheduled to be arraigned Monday afternoon.

Ray formerly led 1st Special Forces Group at JBLM before becoming I Corps chief of staff in July.

An I Corps spokesman said Monday Ray has been suspended.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 1:40:13am

The Founding Fathers were so inept they left a huge gaping hole in the electoral process.

theatlantic.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 2:18:28am

Veterans in the 117th Congress, by the numbers (Military Times)

When elected officials gather on Capitol Hill to formally convene the 117th Congress on Jan. 3, they’ll do so with 91 veterans among their ranks, the lowest total since at least World War II.

The number of veterans in Congress has declined almost steadily since the mid-1970s, as the military shifted from an end strength of largely drafted individuals to an all-volunteer force. In 1973, nearly three in every four members of Congress had some type of military service. In 2021, it’ll be about one in every six members who have military experience.

That’s the lowest since at least the start of World War II. Information on congressional members with veteran experience before then is incomplete, making comparisons difficult.

However, the number could grow in coming years. Of the 79 lawmakers elected to the 117th Congress who are aged 45 or younger, 21 (about 27 percent) served in the military.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 2:22:40am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 2:47:20am

re: #33 Nyet

The Founding Fathers were so inept they left a huge gaping hole in the electoral process.

theatlantic.com

I don’t know that they were so much inept, as much as they simply did not foresee what would come up.

That it came up so soon after the Constitution was adopted could simply be chance: It might not have come up for a hundred years.

There is no way someone writing anything can predict all the ways it might go wrong in the future.

For example, we still don’t have flying cars. Thanks, Popular Mechanics.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 2:55:02am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t know that they were so much inept, as much as they simply did not foresee what would come up.

That it came up so soon after the Constitution was adopted could simply be chance: It might not have come up for a hundred years.

There is no way someone writing anything can predict all the ways it might go wrong in the future.

For example, we still don’t have flying cars. Thanks, Popular Mechanics.

But not foreseeing something that obvious is one of the definitions of inept.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:17:44am

re: #37 Nyet

But not foreseeing something that obvious is one of the definitions of inept.

Obvious? Hardly, if you start with the assumption that your electorate is enlightened and will always choose trustworthy and honorable men. The Founding Fathers’ mistake wasn’t in leaving a bunch of holes in the electoral process, it was being too trusting of their fellow Americans and not being foresighted enough to imagine a day when common assholes like Jefferson (or, as we see today, Donald J. Trump) would be seeking to exploit the limits of power, rather than nobly remaining within it. We can argue back and forth about where exactly things went wrong, but at the end of the day, they made an educated guess and left the door open for future generations to fix it if they fucked it up. They did, we tried, but it still isn’t fully fixed because nobody, until now, has been so firmly determined to find all the ways to break it.

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iceweasel  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:28:34am

.re: #38 thedopefishlives

it still isn’t fully fixed because nobody, until now, has been so firmly determined to find all the ways to break it.

Totally true and very well stated, fishy. Trump and the GOP in general are concerned with breaking it.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:30:09am

re: #39 iceweasel

.

Totally true and very well stated, fishy. Trump and the GOP in general are concerned with breaking it.

{{{iceweasel}}}

Hope all is well with you and your Jimmah. Miss you guys. And thank you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:31:21am

Today’s acknowledgement of random karma points goes to Iceweasel, with 68,426 as of this post.

Karma points may be redeemed at your local S&H Green Stamp store for valuable products.

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iceweasel  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:37:35am

re: #40 thedopefishlives

{{{iceweasel}}}

Hope all is well with you and your Jimmah. Miss you guys. And thank you.

Hey! All is well here— Jimmah and I just celebrated our 11th wedding anniversary— i put up a page in the sidebar about it.
I’ve missed you too and hope the mrs fish and wee fish are all well.

great to see you, and really good comment about the Founding Fathers— I think they were very much inspired by Enlightenment ideas about human nature (well, obviously) but also just had this unbounded optimism about what the ‘natural light of reason’ would reveal.

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iceweasel  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:40:16am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Valuable products? Cool. Maybe we can barter. :)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:44:33am

re: #42 iceweasel

I saw that page! Congratulations. We’re doing well enough right now; lotta story going on in the comments here, but at least now we’re in a stable place.

You’re absolutely spot on about that last paragraph. It’s taken me a while to understand, fully, the kind of idealistic fervor that must have been in the room when they wrote the Declaration, the Articles, and the Constitution. This was a nation and a group of men fresh off the high of going toe-to-toe with the King of Bloody England and his Royal Army and Navy, and filled with Enlightenment philosophies that they felt their counterparts across the pond could stand to learn a lesson from. I can excuse them for being shortsighted; we just need to figure out how to fix it, with the assumption that someday someone is going to come along to try any way possible to break our work.

It’s kind of like writing a computer program, in a way; you start out with the best intentions, making naive assumptions about the inputs your users are going to put into your system. Then when someone goes all Bobby Tables on you, you learn to put in rules and ways to test them. Then another, bigger idiot comes along and breaks it in another way. Rinse and repeat, but gaining experience, and hopefully not breaking the system altogether in the meantime.

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:53:16am

Well, goodie. Woke up to -15 degrees Fahrenheit and no water. It’s supposed to warm up to the 20’s so that should thaw things at which point I leave the tap opened. Grump.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 3:57:55am

re: #45 William Lewis

Well, goodie. Woke up to -15 degrees Fahrenheit and no water. It’s supposed to warm up to the 20’s so that should thaw things at which point I leave the tap opened. Grump.

Well, that’s no fun. Stay warm. We’re looking at a projected 3.5” of snow starting this afternoon into this evening, so tomorrow morning will be yet another run of the snowblower. It’s getting a workout so far this December.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:26:45am

State of Illinois is failing to protect people, sharing names and Social Security numbers with fraudsters who are taking advantage of them.

CBS Chicago (3:17)

CBS 2 Exclusive: List Of Victims Grows Longer As Social Security Numbers Are Shared With Strangers B

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:31:10am

re: #39 iceweasel

.

Totally true and very well stated, fishy. Trump and the GOP in general are concerned with breaking it.

In a couple years’ time, when forgetfullness has dulled the pain, we’ll appreciate Trump and his scum for providing a critical stress test on our whole society.

(Also in hindsight, you guys were right about Scottish independence/EU.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:44:25am

For women:

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Are you introverted? Are you shy? Do you perhaps wear glasses? Are you constantly harangued at work by an ill-intentioned boss or harassed by men when you walk home at night? Do you yearn for the power and confidence to stand up for yourself and take what you’re rightfully owed? Do you have a sneaking suspicion that you would look amazing in a skin-tight catsuit?

If so, congratulations! You might be one of the DC movie universe’s triad of fabulous female super-villains! These ladies had the “She’s All That” makeover, but evil! So read on to find out if you are a Barbara, a Pamela, or a Selina!

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:46:37am

Just seeing over the newswires that French fashion designer Pierre Cardin has died at the age of 98.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:52:22am

re: #46 thedopefishlives

Well, that’s no fun. Stay warm. We’re looking at a projected 3.5” of snow starting this afternoon into this evening, so tomorrow morning will be yet another run of the snowblower. It’s getting a workout so far this December.

I purchased a brand new one a few months ago and have yet to use it. Call me crazy, but I want some measurable snow here.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 4:56:45am

re: #51 GlutenFreeJesus

I purchased a brand new one a few months ago and have yet to use it. Call me crazy, but I want some measurable snow here.

The machine I’m trotting out is over 25 years old now, but has been lovingly maintained by my father and myself since he bought it new in the spring of 1995. It’s only failed me a few times - once when the blower drive belt let go, which I didn’t even realize it had until then, and then if the snowfall is too wet and slushy. It doesn’t do slush.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:03:44am

re: #52 thedopefishlives

I had an old TORO gas machine and it just got to the point where maintenance was too much of a hassle for me. I took a leap of faith and invested in a battery powered TORO. Being in Chicago, I convinced myself that I’ll just have to clear the driveway more frequently during a storm instead of letting it pile up. It came with 2 6 mAh batteries so this should be doable. One battery should be able to clear my driveway 2-3 times.

We will see. Maybe!

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:04:44am

Croatia just got hit with another earthquake, 6.4 moment magnitude.

earthquake.usgs.gov

There has been a series of earthquakes in Croatia over the past few days, however, this one was more powerful than the previous quakes. It hit a part of the country which is still recovering from the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s, with early reports claiming many houses damaged or destroyed. Those poor folks - quite literally poor, because the economy never bounced back in parts of Croatia after the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia - just can’t seem to catch a break.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:04:54am

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

Some of my neighbors have electric snowblowers. I wonder at the wisdom of this in a part of the country that routinely sees snowstorms over 6” (usually 1-2 such per year). Of course, I’m talking to someone who gets lake effect snow, so perhaps there’s something to it. You’ll have to let me know how it works out for you this winter.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:07:49am

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Yeah I guess the trick is to run the thing more often during the storm. I’ll update if/when we get anything measurable. Of course now that I’m prepared, it won’t happen. :)

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:09:31am

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Obvious? Hardly, if you start with the assumption that your electorate is enlightened and will always choose trustworthy and honorable men. The Founding Fathers’ mistake wasn’t in leaving a bunch of holes in the electoral process, it was being too trusting of their fellow Americans and not being foresighted enough to imagine a day when common assholes like Jefferson (or, as we see today, Donald J. Trump) would be seeking to exploit the limits of power, rather than nobly remaining within it. We can argue back and forth about where exactly things went wrong, but at the end of the day, they made an educated guess and left the door open for future generations to fix it if they fucked it up. They did, we tried, but it still isn’t fully fixed because nobody, until now, has been so firmly determined to find all the ways to break it.

Actually the whole checks and balances things presumes that such are necessary, that is, that the electorate won’t always be up to the task; moreover, if you read the constitutional discussions about pardons, they explicitly talk of a possibility of a demagogue ascending to power. So they were not dewy-eyed naifs.

So leaving the *obvious* possibility of a dishonest VP manipulating the elections strikes me as inept, yes.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:10:26am

re: #39 iceweasel

ice! long time no see (years and years)

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:15:14am

Speaking of which, hopefully this prediction doesn’t come true in 2 days.

Years and Years - Episode 1 Clip

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:25:18am

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Some of my neighbors have electric snowblowers.

My electric snowblower, which plugs into a standard household outlet, does a pretty good job - and up where I live, we get dumped on, also from lake effect snow.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:26:21am

scholarship.law.gwu.edu

The problems started pretty much immediately.

These textual penumbras can be enlightened by precedents that have gone largely unnoticed for two centuries: the electoral vote disputes of 1796 and 1800. On these two occasions, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson found themselves in Al Gore’s position. As Vice-Presidents in the preceding administration, they were presiding over a vote count in which they were leading candidates, and in both instances, they used their power to make rulings that favored their own election as President of the United States.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:39:54am

Trump is gonna be pissed.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:51:53am

Over the weekend there was a vaccination station being set up in the parking lot of the local college campus. I walk my dog there nearly everyday. There was one military vehicle and the beginnings of a path for cars marked by pylons. And then yesterday all the signs were down and it was gone. I’m going to bet that they thought they were getting vaccine only to discover that there is really no coordination and the vaccine wouldn’t be delivered. Can’t think of another reason, unless it was some kind of prep exercise.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:56:14am

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Are you kidding? He’s just going to crow about how he’s finally being acknowledged as the greatest person ever.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 5:58:32am

On this day in 1890, the US military murdered more than 300 Lakota, including women and children, at Wounded Knee. It was a massacre. It was a genocide. And it was sanctioned by the government.

I had the opportunity to visit the site when I was out in the Black Hills a few years back, and there’s a sizeable plaque where the event occurred. The US still doesn’t respect Native Americans or their rights to the land - the Treaty of Fort Laramie, which deemed the Black Hills were Native Americans got abrogated the moment gold was found in the hills (and Homestake in nearby Lead became one of the largest most profitable mines in the world for much of the 20th century).

Perversely, 20 of the soldiers who were involved in the massacre received Medals of Honor for it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:00:30am

re: #63 Barefoot Grin

My county received close to 2,000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine - half went to the hospital, half went to the county’s Health department. Since my mother is in the next wave, we called, and it looks like both sources have already depleted their stocks, and it looks like the next batch won’t hit until next week.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:04:10am

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Trump is gonna be pissed.

Trump more popular than Obama? With who?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:07:29am

Locally (I don’t have a snowblower, just a shovel)

…WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM MST THIS
MORNING…

* WHAT…Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5 inches.
Winds gusting as high as 35 mph. Freezing Drizzle and Fog may
also continue through mid morning.

* WHERE…Communities along and south of a line from Cheyenne to
Scottsbluff to Angora. Includes the Interstate 80 Corridor from
Lodgepole to Cheyenne. Freezing fog and drizzle may continue
along the I-80 corridor from Cheyenne to Sidney Nebraska through
mid morning.

* WHEN…Until 11 AM MST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS…Plan on slippery road conditions. Patchy blowing
snow, freezing drizzle and fog could significantly reduce
visibility. The hazardous conditions will impact roadways
tonight into Tuesday.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:09:38am

That earthquake in Croatia was apparently felt here in Czech Republic. Here’s a blurb, translated into English:

“On Tuesday, another earthquake hit the area about 50 km south of the capital Zagreb, this time much stronger with a magnitude of 6.3. The earthquake was also felt in the Czech Republic, at the moment we already have reports from residents not only in southern Bohemia, which are closest to the epicenter, but also from Karlovy Vary, Pilsen and Prague”, according to the Geophysical Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic.

From the Czech original article: novinky.cz

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:11:13am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:16:17am

Michigan mayor draws criticism with Facebook posts suggesting rebellion: report (The Hill)

Conservatives will give up democracy, not conservatism.

A Michigan mayor is reportedly receiving backlash for his Facebook posts calling for people to “TAKE power back” after critics said they could incite violence.

Potterville Mayor Bruce Kring’s controversial posts obtained by Lansing-based station WLNS include one that says, “When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.” The station reported that a viewer flagged the posts.

Another posted alongside an angry emoji said, “Either we TAKE power back or we will never be free again. No more asking nicely. Our founding fathers warned us. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.”

A third post captioned “Whitmers next lockdown!!!” showed a picture of a stockade. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D), who was the subject of a kidnapping plot earlier this year, has been repeatedly criticized by Republicans over her coronavirus prevention measures.

(more)

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:17:08am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:18:46am

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Winter weather advisory stretches from central Michigan to western Nevada, including my whole state.

weather.gov (national map)

It’s been snowing here all day.

Just started snowing here in NW PA. Not going to get much. Most of what was dropped on Christmas eve and day is gone already. Also a warm up for a couple days coming supposedly. So all in all a good forecast for the next week into new year.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:24:39am

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:27:19am

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:28:52am

re: #74 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

We know what Trump and the GOP would have done had Obama done this.

They would have impeached as an abdication of his role and responsibility.

Trump and the GOP are fucking fascists who are fine with their base fantasizing about more violence against their enemies (real and imagined).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:29:48am

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Obvious? Hardly, if you start with the assumption that your electorate is enlightened and will always choose trustworthy and honorable men. The Founding Fathers’ mistake wasn’t in leaving a bunch of holes in the electoral process, it was being too trusting of their fellow Americans and not being foresighted enough to imagine a day when common assholes like Jefferson (or, as we see today, Donald J. Trump) would be seeking to exploit the limits of power, rather than nobly remaining within it. We can argue back and forth about where exactly things went wrong, but at the end of the day, they made an educated guess and left the door open for future generations to fix it if they fucked it up. They did, we tried, but it still isn’t fully fixed because nobody, until now, has been so firmly determined to find all the ways to break it.

Hold up. Did you read that Atlantic piece? It said Jefferson did the right thing. It was a long and convoluted piece (interesting nonetheless) but that was the conclusion.

The founders thought those running for president would be honorable to the country. Trump is not honorable in any way towards anyone or anything.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:35:27am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

{snip] It’s kind of like writing a computer program, in a way; you start out with the best intentions, making naive assumptions about the inputs your users are going to put into your system. Then when someone goes all Bobby Tables . [snip]

A programmers job is to make programs that are idiot proof. Mother natures job is to make better idiots. So far Mother nature is winning.

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mmmirele  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:36:04am

Well at least I know I’ll wake up for an on-call page, even if it was made in (stupid) error. The resource manager decided a relatively minimal issue needed to have the on call manager there, even though there was another channel manager available and a third channel manager was actually working the issue. I could have been pissed off about it but it was only 11 minutes earlier than when I’d be awoken by my first alarm* so I was more just annoyed.

* Because my work hours will move back one hour when daylight saving time comes around in just two months, I just don’t tinker with my alarms. I wake up, I tell Alexa to set an alarm for one hour, then I go back to sleep. I’m not fond of this routine but it works.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:37:12am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:37:53am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump more popular than Obama? With who?

Republicans.

Remember, trump only cares about what Republicans think so he’ll be on top of the world.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:38:33am
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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:40:14am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump more popular than Obama? With who?

Obama’s popularity is now being split among Biden and Fauci. And Trump’s popular plurality is 18%.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:42:52am

Hellooo Iceweasel! Thanks for visiting my Page and great to see you here again. How is Jimmah?

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A Mom Anon  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:43:54am

I wanted to say something about QAnon assholes being “mentally ill”. And much of the same applies to people on the autism spectrum as well:

First, mentally ill or anyone with a disability of any sort really are far more likely to be crime victims rather than perpetrators. This doesn’t mean a person with any of the above issues can’t be a selfish asshole, but the selfish asshole part of them would be there without those issues.

All this conspiracy QAnon bullshit is fueled by mainly two things; hate and spite. Without an underlying layer of those two things, QAnon wouldn’t have had the chance to ruin shit and skew things the way they have. And they certainly would not have gained traction without decades of outright lies and hatred of anything the right labels evildemondevilsocialistcommiedemocrat. Because we want equality, healthcare that won’t destroy us financially, fair wages and safe workplaces, investment in education and job training, etc. THAT is what is at issue. The right decided having an enemy to hate was the most important thing and they’ve never let up.

Hate clouds your judgement and anger leads to fucked up choices.Blaming mental illness for all of this is not only dismissive as hell, it gives every mass shooter or violent Nazi fuck out there an excuse for what they are doing and the stigma attached to all of mental illness and autism and other issues goes up. It’s hard enough to be in the world as “different” or “crazy”, adding to that stigma won’t help anyone.

We want simple answers and ways to put people into neat boxes, but that doesn’t make the problems lessen. What’s happening is far too many awful humans, who LIKE being awful humans, have no consequences for their actions. Until that changes, this problem is going to be parked right in our faces for a long time.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:47:23am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:47:41am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Republicans.

Remember, trump only cares about what Republicans think so he’ll be on top of the world.

I went in and read the piece. Democrats split their admiration amongst several people (President Obama, Dr. Fauci, Joe Biden, &c) while a huge chunk of the GOP went for Trump. Independents hived off equally between Trump and Obama.

That defines the problem for the GOP going forward. They can’t dump Trump because their cultish base would dump them.

As Rep. Schiff said, they would be welded to him with a cord of steel for all of history.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:48:53am

Thought for President Biden: Maybe we could find jobs for some of those out of work by using them to assist with the logistics and infrastructure needed to more effectively and quickly administer vaccines.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:50:00am

Snow in the hills!

Looking North from Mt Wilson
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:50:28am

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

My county received close to 2,000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine - half went to the hospital, half went to the county’s Health department. Since my mother is in the next wave, we called, and it looks like both sources have already depleted their stocks, and it looks like the next batch won’t hit until next week.

Wife and I were at hospital for blood work this morning. As we were walking in and getting our temp checked and questioned, a doctor was behind us. One nurse was talking to him and he mentioned he had gotten the first shot of the Pfizer’s vaccine. As we were walking to the outpatient center area for our blood draws we asked him how he felt after the vaccine. He said a bit sore at the shot site, but not bad at all. Then he told us something we didn’t know, and he said he didn’t know until the little physician seminar about the vaccine.

Second shot needs to be pretty much exactly 3 weeks from the first, maybe a 2 - 3 days window of exactly 3 weeks. If not done then you have to go back to square one of first shot and then second shot in 3 weeks. I had not heard that part before.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:51:27am

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

Thought for President Biden: Maybe we could find jobs for some of those out of work by using them to assist with the logistics and infrastructure needed to more effectively and quickly administer vaccines.

That’s a good idea. Do you have Joe Biden’s telephone number to call him up and suggest it? /s

Seriously though, if you have a representative or senator who is not a member of the fascist party, perhaps you can suggest it to them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:52:10am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s a good idea. Do you have Joe Biden’s telephone number to call him up and suggest it? /s

Seriously though, if you have a representative or senator who is not a member of the fascist party, perhaps you can suggest it to them.

I’m in MS so…not a damn chance.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:57:00am

The text of an email that John Fetterman, the beloved Lt. Gov. of PA, sent out yesterday:

I got stiffed this Christmas.

My counterpart in Texas, Republican Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, offered up a handsome $1 million reward for anyone who brought forward a valid complaint of voter fraud.

Now, despite what Trump and Patrick think, it’s pretty rare to find a real live fraud case in the wild. But I was determined, because a million bucks is a million bucks.

Out of 7 million votes in Pennsylvania, we were able to find three fraudsters. We had the guy who returned in sunglasses to vote a second time. A dude in Forty Fort who tried to vote for his dead mom. And, yeah another guy Bartman who also tried to vote for a dead mom.

In all seriousness, the three cases we found are the perfect example of just how rare voter fraud is in PA. Out of 7 million votes, just three bad actors. It doesn’t matter at the end of the day, but I do find it funny that all three of these fraudsters were trying to vote more than once for Donald Trump.

Add those up and Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick owes us:

$1 million for the “return in sunglasses” guy
$1 million for my dude in Forty Fort
$1 million for Bartman

—-

$3 million bucks!

I’m still waiting for our reward money. Christmas came and went and we haven’t seen a dime yet. We did ask for them to be paid out in Sheetz gift cards, so it may just be taking our friends in Texas a some time to get those printed and shipped.

John Fetterman
Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 6:59:36am

re: #89 Rightwingconspirator

Snow in the hills!

Here the entire length of Interstate 76 is closed (from the junction of Interstate 80 to the Colorado state line, two miles total).

Interstate 80 is closed between Pine Bluffs (the Wyoming state line) and Ogallala (exit 133).

US-26 is completely covered in snow and ice from Moomaw Corners (north of Bayard) to Llewellen (in Garden County). Travel in my area is not recommended. Rural roads are closed.

hb.511.nebraska.gov (traffic camera just east of my village on US-26—the Sandhills are covered in snow)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:02:24am

re: #93 thedopefishlives

Did he send the E-mail to Dan Patrick? Perhaps he should run it in the Austin Statesman as an op-ed or letter to the editor, to remind Texans their lieutenant governor is a welcher and a liar.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:03:07am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Did he send the E-mail to Dan Patrick? Perhaps he should run it in the Austin Statesman as an op-ed or letter to the editor, to remind Texans their lieutenant governor is a welcher and a liar.

I got it from a public website, so I believe this was probably sent to supporters/subscribers. However, it would be a perfect letter for such purpose as you describe.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:06:16am

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Obvious? Hardly, if you start with the assumption that your electorate is enlightened and will always choose trustworthy and honorable men. The Founding Fathers’ mistake wasn’t in leaving a bunch of holes in the electoral process, it was being too trusting of their fellow Americans and not being foresighted enough to imagine a day when common assholes like Jefferson (or, as we see today, Donald J. Trump) would be seeking to exploit the limits of power****, rather than nobly remaining within it. We can argue back and forth about where exactly things went wrong, but at the end of the day, they made an educated guess and left the door open for future generations to fix it if they fucked it up. They did, we tried, but it still isn’t fully fixed because nobody, until now, has been so firmly determined to find all the ways to break it.

**** with about half the country supporting it

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:09:42am

And like that, Trump’s back out golfing this morning. No doubt Trump will try and spin this as doing work on the golf course since WaPo ran a story about how Graham and others went golfing with Trump to convince him to sign the budget/stimulus packages.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:11:47am

re: #97 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

**** with about half the country supporting it

Not half. About half the country is too stupid/repulsed/uninterested or ineligible. Of the voting 50-60%, less than half voted for Trump or genetically GOP. We’re still inside the Crazification Factor for hardcore Trumpisti.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:13:10am

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Are you kidding? He’s just going to crow about how he’s finally being acknowledged as the greatest person ever.

obama +biden split the vote

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:16:13am

re: #100 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

obama +biden split the vote

You know that, and I know that, but the General doesn’t know that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:19:07am

Traffic camera for Interstate 80 at the edge of Pine Bluffs, Wyo. Interstate 80 is closed from there east for over one hundred miles.

hb.511.nebraska.gov

The alternate route, US-30, which leaves I-80 at Pine Bluffs, is also closed in Nebraska to Ogallala.

wyoroad.info

Wyoming traffic moving eastbound is required to leave I-80 at the Pine Bluffs exit, and the last mile of I-80 is closed going into Nebraska. With US-30 also closed, that dumps traffic into a town of 1,100 people with no place to go.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:20:05am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:21:26am

J FUCKING C this has to be the longest Twitter Temper Tantrum in the history of Tweetlandia.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:22:05am

re: #93 thedopefishlives

If Dan Patrick’s thinking about it at all, he’s trying to figure out a way to bump up the Texas sales tax to pay for it.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:23:04am
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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:23:22am

re: #98 lawhawk

And like that, Trump’s back out golfing this morning. No doubt Trump will try and spin this as doing work on the golf course since WaPo ran a story about how Graham and others went golfing with Trump to convince him to sign the budget/stimulus packages.

[Embedded content]

Golfing is the modern day fiddling

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:23:58am

re: #103 Belafon

How does Trump prevent photographers or cinematographers from filming in hospitals, other than HIPAA, the law being the thing that prevents patients from being filmed without permission?

Trump does not control hospitals or their boards. Any hospital could get tell him to get bent if he tried to prohibit hospitals from letting press in, and there are far too many hospitals for him to keep track of.

I imagine patient privacy weighs more on hospitals than Agolf Twittler.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:24:03am
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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:26:30am

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Not half. About half the country is too stupid/repulsed/uninterested or ineligible. Of the voting 50-60%, less than half voted for Trump or genetically GOP. We’re still inside the Crazification Factor for hardcore Trumpisti.

Yes I know..I listed the 40% quip above
Small keyboard and I was in a hurry
But i did say country
nonvoters have opinions too

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:26:50am

From last thread:
re: #50 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Absolutely not a mental health issue. The mentally ill are far more often the victims of violence rather than perpetrators.

I guarantee you if this person was not white, no one would be arguing mental illness.

Believing in Q conspiracies is a choice. Acting on Q conspiracies is a choice.

Whether a Q is murdering a mob boss, putting together an armoured car to block a dam, or blowing up two blocks of a downtown area, they are making a choice. They are not mentally ill; they are terrorists.

Moreover and glooming on, linking the Qtards (a choice) with mental illness denigrates the mentally ill; it purs a stigma on us that we are prone to violence.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:27:31am

From my FB

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:28:44am

re: #100 Dangerman; Not a Dr. & don’t play one on TV

obama +biden split the vote

Eighteen percent of the survey’s respondents named Trump as their most admired man, compared to 15 percent who named Obama and 6 percent who named President-elect Joe Biden. Three percent named National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, while 2 percent said Pope Francis.

Rounding out the top 10 were Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and the Dalai Lama, all of whom received 1 percent.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:29:02am

re: #109 Belafon

That means 1 in 811 Russians has died from covid19 (145 million / 180,000).

We’re going to learn that the death toll is far higher than even that everywhere once the excess mortality statistics are compiled.

We know that the excess mortality in the US is well above 400,000 at this point, and the confirmed deaths are above 340,000. The official counts are about 20% less than the excess mortality figures in the US.

Expect similar outcomes in places like Brazil too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:30:25am

re: #106 jaunte

They don’t care. The cruelty is the point.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:31:17am

re: #1 austin_blue

My property taxes are $1000.

A month.

We paid $150,000 for the house 23 years ago.

Texas, where tax law makes the rich richer and the middle class a vanishing breed.

Mine are about $700/month and I live just outside DC in Montgomery Co., which is considered one of most expensive areas in the country. Damn, you Texans are getting hosed. I won’t see any of the stimulus, but since I can work 100% electronically, this SARS-CoV-2 fiasco hasn’t really affected m my household.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:31:38am

re: #113 sagehen

Exactly how trump got the nomination in ‘16

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:31:46am

re: #104 The Pie Overlord!

….Can you imagine if the Republicans stole a Presidential Election from the Democrats - All hell would break out. Republican leadership only wants the path of least resistance. Our leaders (not me, of course!) are pathetic. They only know how to lose! P.S. I got MANY Senators..

You mean like in 2000? All hell did not break out.

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Alephnaught  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:32:43am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

t’s kind of like writing a computer program, in a way; you start out with the best intentions, making naive assumptions about the inputs your users are going to put into your system. Then when someone goes all Bobby Tables on you, you learn to put in rules and ways to test them.

Heh! We have our SQL equivalent over here called “Johnny Drop Tables”. :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:33:16am

If you’re interested in signing up for the Novavax trials, this is their Website where they are enrolling volunteers. You can check to see if you are eligible and if there is a site close to you.

novavax.com

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:35:41am

re: #119 Alephnaught

Heh! We have our SQL equivalent over here called “Johnny Drop Tables”. :)

xkcd.com (Link goes to xkcd, a fantastic webcomic)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:39:48am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, I signed up, though the nearest trial location to me is at the University of Colorado in Aurora. Let’s see what happens.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:40:44am

Decisions decisions…

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:42:04am

re: #114 lawhawk

That means 1 in 811 Russians has died from covid19 (145 million / 180,000).

We’re going to learn that the death toll is far higher than even that everywhere once the excess mortality statistics are compiled.

We know that the excess mortality in the US is well above 400,000 at this point, and the confirmed deaths are above 340,000. The official counts are about 20% less than the excess mortality figures in the US.

Expect similar outcomes in places like Brazil too.

They lied about WWII deaths as well; they admitted to 10 million, it was years before we found out it was 27 million.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:42:29am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL timing! Whilst I was writing my post…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:45:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:47:34am

re: #124 sagehen

The figures published by the Ministry of Defense have been accepted by most historians outside Russia. However, the official figure of 8.7 million military deaths has been disputed by Russian scholars who believe that the number of dead and missing POWs is not correct and new research is necessary to determine actual losses.[8] Officials at the Russian Central Defense Ministry Archive (CDMA) maintain that their database lists the names of roughly 14 million dead and missing service personnel.[9][10][11] Russian President Dmitry Medvedev stated in 2009 that “data about our losses haven’t been revealed yet…We must determine the historical truth.” He added that more than 2.4 million people are still officially considered missing in action, of the 9.5 million persons buried in mass graves, six million are unidentified.[12] Some Russian scholars put the total number of losses in the war, both civilian and military, at over 40 million.

en.wikipedia.org.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:51:32am

From that Hill article on the most admired man.

Twenty-one percent of respondents offered no response, while 11 percent named a friend or relative as their most admired.

No Response beat them all.

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:55:25am

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

en.wikipedia.org.

I bet a bunch of the dead in siege cities were cannibalized.

Not very appetizing, but after 6 months of eating shoe leather and wallpaper paste? Andes soccer team plane crash might be the only alternative.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 7:59:15am

I’m looking forward to having a President who DOESN’T get flagged by Twitter every damn day.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:03:25am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:04:09am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

If she has a medical condition, they can make a reasonable accommodation. That doesn’t mean she has to be allowed in the store; she can do drive-up pickup or delivery. Fuck your entitlement.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:05:59am
Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) and David Perdue (R-Ga.) on Tuesday both came out in favor of increasing direct payments in the coronavirus relief package from $600 to $2,000 per person. Source: Axios

Moscow Mitch isn’t going to bring this to a vote allowing Loeffler and Perdue to support these payments without having to actually vote for them.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:06:29am

The FUBAR vaccination rollout - no fed funding, no fed planning. States with no resources.

In other words, Trumpworld has fucked up the vaccination rollout and had no plan for logistics despite claiming to have done so.

They left it up to others (the states) to do the last mile rollout and distribution, even though states don’t have the resources to do it, and dumped it on to providers themselves to figure out how to do it.

If there was a way to fuck this up, this is it.

It’s indistinguishable from sabotage at this point.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:06:45am

re: #132 thedopefishlives

If she has a medical condition, they can make a reasonable accommodation. That doesn’t mean she has to be allowed in the store; she can do drive-up pickup or delivery. Fuck your entitlement.

Kroger has that in their store signs and announcements, that if you can’t wear a mask you can order online.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:07:24am

re: #125 Rightwingconspirator

LOL timing! Whilst I was writing my post…

Ya gotta be quick.

I got an automated response E-mail from them saying the trial centre would be contacting me soon.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:09:53am

re: #132 thedopefishlives

If she has a medical condition, they can make a reasonable accommodation. That doesn’t mean she has to be allowed in the store; she can do drive-up pickup or delivery. Fuck your entitlement.

If a medical condition keeps her from wearing a mask (like those on portable O2) then a face shield is acceptable in most cases. All she has is way too much makeup.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:09:53am

re: #132 thedopefishlives

If she has a medical condition, they can make a reasonable accommodation. That doesn’t mean she has to be allowed in the store; she can do drive-up pickup or delivery. Fuck your entitlement.

She has no fucking “Medical Health Condition.” This is a talking point distributed by the Qturds as an Official Legal Excuse That No One May Challenge.

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mmmirele  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:10:55am

This is such an extraordinarily frustrating article. I want to wring the pastor’s neck.

Fort Worth pastor who urged ‘faith over fear’ in the pandemic mourns parents who died of COVID complications

The pastor of 2nd Mile Church in north Fort Worth, where his parents were members, said he was surprised by the sudden surge in COVID cases in recent weeks in Tarrant County.

*snip*

As early voting started in the fall, Dunn’s Facebook messages took on a strongly partisan tone as it related to the pandemic. On Oct. 7, he posted:

“The Left is using this virus situation to methodically keep us in our place and to keep churches from assembling. … If you are struggling with voting for an individual because of their background then for the love of God please vote for the platform. I truly believe God is in control but we need to do our part!!”

*snip to the HE’S STILL AN ASSHAT” part

Tarrant County, like many counties in Texas, closed churches for about six weeks in the spring. Since the ban was lifted, Dunn has continued to hold services, and says he would still be against any mandate to close churches, even now when COVID-19 numbers have been exploding in Tarrant County.

“I’m not going to be on the side of government intrusion on places of worship,” he said.

dallasnews.com

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:11:25am

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

She has no fucking “Medical Health Condition.” This is a talking point distributed by the Qturds as an Official Legal Excuse That No One May Challenge.

You know that, I know that, she knows that, and I have no doubt the in-store people know that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:11:26am

re: #134 lawhawk

The FUBAR vaccination rollout - no fed funding, no fed planning. States with no resources.

In other words, Trumpworld has fucked up the vaccination rollout and had no plan for logistics despite claiming to have done so.

They left it up to others (the states) to do the last mile rollout and distribution, even though states don’t have the resources to do it, and dumped it on to providers themselves to figure out how to do it.

If there was a way to fuck this up, this is it.

It’s indistinguishable from sabotage at this point.

No, that’s unregulated capitalism.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:12:33am

re: #135 Belafon

Kroger has that in their store signs and announcements, that if you can’t wear a mask you can order online.

If you truly had a medical issues, you’d figure this out on your own. A friend of a friend can’t wear a mask because of PTSD due to sexual assault (something she didn’t know until she tried to wear a mask and it caused severe trauma). She has people go to the store for her or delivered. It sucks because she’s extra isolated, but she doesn’t want to risk exposure.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:12:43am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ya gotta be quick.

I got an automated response E-mail from them saying the trial center would be contacting me soon.

Hypothetically speaking one might be wary of getting the placebo, and not being able to find out if you did, and yet can’t get another, remaining vulnerable for some time.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:14:25am

re: #70 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:15:27am

re: #139 mmmirele

This is such an extraordinarily frustrating article. I want to wring the pastor’s neck.

dallasnews.com

It says right in the Bible you don’t need a building or a large gathering of people to properly worship God.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:16:51am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

It says right in the Bible you don’t need a building or a large gathering of people to properly worship God.

You know as well as I do that they don’t actually read the book, or if they do, just conveniently ignore the parts they don’t want to talk about - and that can be on a minute-to-minute basis.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:17:10am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

It says right in the Bible you don’t need a building or a large gathering of people to properly worship God.

Pulpit pimps need to maintain their way of life, and the collection plate doesn’t fill up by itself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:18:40am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:19:08am

re: #147 lawhawk

Pulpit pimps need to maintain their way of life, and the collection plate doesn’t fill up by itself.

The intelligent ones built out infrastructure for doing church online, including giving. Our church’s income has definitely taken a hit, but we make nearly enough money to match our full budget. A few cost-cutting measures have enabled us to keep our doors open easily. But then again, our pastor isn’t a complete jackwagon religious bigot nutjob.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:19:38am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

It says right in the Bible you don’t need a building or a large gathering of people to properly worship God.

The Pulpit Pimp is in it for the money. He needs to see those dead presidents in the gold collection plates.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:27:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:32:18am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

It would appear the Twitterati identified her already.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:34:22am

re: #151 thedopefishlives

Busted for lack of diversity jurisdiction (venue). To be in federal court, the parties have to be from different jurisdictions. Twitter does business in Delaware (it’s incorporated there!), and the plaintiff is a Delaware resident, which means a Delaware court would be a proper venue. So, even though Twitter is HQ’d in SF and has offices in places like Florida or NY, it is registered as a DE business.

This guy’s lawyers are from the same school as Trumpworld’s seditious treasonweasel efforts. Had this been filed in a Delaware court, it would have survived first contact (likely to fail on the other grounds, like facts, evidence, etc.).

The guy will likely try to refile in the proper court (maybe). His 15 minutes are over.

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John Hughes  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:35:26am

re: #151 thedopefishlives

Delaware resident tries to sue company incorporated in Delaware in US Federal court for south Florida. Judge says “not my problem, man”.

These people aren’t very bright, are they.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:39:47am

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

She has no fucking “Medical Health Condition.” This is a talking point distributed by the Qturds as an Official Legal Excuse That No One May Challenge.

And yet it can be challenged; they are not required to give you your specific accommodation, just something that accommodates you.

The problem is feral conservatives often get violent when they don’t get their way (like the douchecanoe who slapped the phone out of the recorder’s hand). Plus plenty of wingnuts who are so afraid they have to carry their guns everywhere.

Low-wage workers don’t get paid for this crap, and some companies have come out and said not to challenge these people because some of them get violent.

People who see this can report it to the company though, and note they will not shop in their stores again unless they provide security services to protect you from feral conservatives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:41:32am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It would appear the Twitterati identified her already.

One of the nicer things about social media.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:42:40am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:43:20am

“Nice hotel you got here. Be a shame if something bad happened to it.”

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:51:42am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

“Nice hotel you got here. Be a shame if something bad happened to it.”

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Does… does he realize that if something DOES happen to the hotel, he’s getting his ass arrested - and based on his skin color, he just might get shot in the process?

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:54:57am
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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:55:19am

re: #154 John Hughes

Delaware resident tries to sue company incorporated in Delaware in US Federal court for south Florida. Judge says “not my problem, man”.

These people aren’t very bright, are they.

I just wonder where they’re finding these lawyers, man. Like, are these the skeevy, bottom-of-the-barrel guys that used to put out the sketchy television ads as personal injury attorneys?

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:56:31am

re: #161 thedopefishlives

You’d think it would be hard to find lawyers this bad at basic competencies, but here we are.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:58:17am

re: #109 Belafon

….
Max Roser
It has been long suggested that more peopled died from COVID than the Russian government said.

Now Russia’s deputy prime minister Tatiana Golikova admitted that the official count of 55,265 is wrong and that in fact more than 186,000 (!) Russians died…..

A while back, some lizards posted here that the true Russian numbers were 3 times as high as the official numbers — and Golikova seems to have confirmed that suspicion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:59:16am

re: #163 Hecuba’s daughter

A while back, some lizards posted here that the true Russian numbers were 3 times as high as the official numbers — and Golikova seems to have confirmed that suspicion.

Seems risky for her to do, no?

Russian windows aren’t too reliable these days…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 8:59:39am

re: #162 lawhawk

You’d think it would be hard to find lawyers this bad at basic competencies, but here we are.

I suppose lawyers, just like programmers, have to have the “last in class” types that barely graduated and get by floating from gig to gig, hoping to find some poor sap who hasn’t blacklisted them for being a complete fucking dumbass.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:01:26am

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Decisions decisions…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:01:39am

Looks like Laura Loomer’s not going to be getting her Twitter account back any time soon. Womp womp.

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Citizen K  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:03:05am
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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:07:49am

re: #129 sagehen

I bet a bunch of the dead in siege cities were cannibalized.

Not very appetizing, but after 6 months of eating shoe leather and wallpaper paste? Andes soccer team plane crash might be the only alternative.

I haven’t seen anything specifically about the subject, but if you read Russian WWII or gulag memoirs, you’ll get a lot of anecdotes. Suffice it to say that there were people selling meat when there was no meat — or none of what we would consider meat in ordinary times. (And not just the plane crash solution, the Sweeney Todd solution as well.)

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:09:33am

re: #168 Citizen K

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And if he were a minority, they’d have published either his mugshot or dug through his social media for the most racist pic of him possible, would have gone looking for criminal past or somebody willing to say he was “no angel,” and gone for the most “this guy deserves to be in jail” angle possible.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:10:57am

re: #165 thedopefishlives

I suppose lawyers, just like programmers, have to have the “last in class” types that barely graduated and get by floating from gig to gig, hoping to find some poor sap who hasn’t blacklisted them for being a complete fucking dumbass.

Yep. Like I like to say, “What do you call the person that graduated dead last in their med school class?”.

Doctor

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:11:19am

re: #168 Citizen K

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If he was black…oh hell we know what the fucking CCCP would have done…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:15:28am

re: #171 Eventual Carrion

Yep. Like I like to say, “What do you call the person that graduated dead last in their med school class?”.

Doctor

…or Senator.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:17:10am

re: #173 Dread Pirate Ron

…or Senator.

Representative Gohmert would like a word.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:18:14am

re: #168 Citizen K

The irony is that even when Blacks are the hero or the victim, the media searches for ways to demonize them.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:18:15am

re: #171 Eventual Carrion

Yep. Like I like to say, “What do you call the person that graduated dead last in their med school class?”.

Doctor

and some unknowing poor soul has an appointment in 30 minutes

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:19:51am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:20:19am

re: #170 Targetpractice

And if he were a minority, they’d have published either his mugshot or dug through his social media for the most racist pic of him possible, would have gone looking for criminal past or somebody willing to say he was “no angel,” and gone for the most “this guy deserves to be in jail” angle possible.

Special rules apply for celebrities though, regardless of race; cf O.J. and Bill Cosby.

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plansbandc  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:21:14am

The people who are surprised that fat ass didn’t have a plan for getting the vaccine out are morons.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:21:15am

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:27:48am
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sagehen  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:30:18am

re: #160 lawhawk

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retired cynic  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:30:27am

This is an excellent, common-sense article.

The Biden Administration Needs a VP of Engineering, Not a CTO
If our government wants to implement a tech-forward agenda, it needs someone who looks at broken infrastructure with a debugger’s eye. Danah Boyd, for Wired.

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stpaulbear  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:31:03am

re: #90 Eventual Carrion

Wife and I were at hospital for blood work this morning. As we were walking in and getting our temp checked and questioned, a doctor was behind us. One nurse was talking to him and he mentioned he had gotten the first shot of the Pfizer’s vaccine. As we were walking to the outpatient center area for our blood draws we asked him how he felt after the vaccine. He said a bit sore at the shot site, but not bad at all. Then he told us something we didn’t know, and he said he didn’t know until the little physician seminar about the vaccine.

Second shot needs to be pretty much exactly 3 weeks from the first, maybe a 2 - 3 days window of exactly 3 weeks. If not done then you have to go back to square one of first shot and then second shot in 3 weeks. I had not heard that part before.

That’s been my fear about a 2 dose vaccination while Trump’s people are still running the show. There doesn’t seem to be enough coordination to make sure that the second shot will be available when needed. That’s going to be an issue until at least mid-February.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:31:06am
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Citizen K  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:32:24am

Once again, people twist and contort in order to find ways to blame the Dems for Republicans being blatant liars and literally only wanting to represent their base, rather than their entire constituency/state/country. But no, it’s the Dems for not messaging right, or for not willing hard enough, or for secretly being the ones responsible for everything the GOP does because the GOP doesn’t have any actual agency and the Dems are all the real super poor-hatey mega-overlords of all things keeping the people down.

Fucks’s sake and a goddamn half.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:33:15am

Because guys like Trump NEVER exaggerate the size of things.

///

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danarchy  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:34:00am

re: #182 sagehen

so… where’s the Ambassador supposed to live?

Not sure, but since they moved the embassy to Jerusalem they probably relocated the ambassador there as well?

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retired cynic  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:35:17am

I was happy to see IL Gov. Pritzker’s maligned tightening of covid restrictions has had the effect of bringing our positivity rate down to 6.8%. Of course, now people are starting to slack off on keeping their masks up over their noses, so we’ll probably have to go through another push.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:35:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:37:29am
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🌹UOJB!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:38:10am

The parents who allegedly looked on as their 4-year-old daughter was fatally beaten and dunked in icy water by neighbors bent on removing a perceived “demon” have been denied permission to attend the child’s funeral.

thedailybeast.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:38:33am

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Decisions decisions…

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Citizen K  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:39:04am

WHich path will journalism as a whole take, Nuzzi’s or Alcindor’s?

I fear that it’s not even a real question and most will absolutely take Nuzzi’s path, because once again they find ways to project conservatives worsts sins against journalists and journalism as a whole onto liberals and Dems because fuck everything.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:39:46am

re: #179 plansbandc

The people who are surprised that fat ass didn’t have a plan for getting the vaccine out are morons.

Mike Pence was the one in charge of the coronavirus task force. So the incompetence concerning the rollout is his, which is not surprising given his mishandling of AIDS when he was governor. Trump never cares about anything except claiming credit for the work of others and shifting blame to others for failures.

Wait — one exception — Trump did work hard to overturn election results. Let’s see what Pence does when he is in the hot seat next week Wednesday — it may given him pleasure that he can, in essence, give the finger to Trump and Trump cannot do anything except spew mean tweets against him. Pence may think that his political future is at stake with his actions — but if he has any sense (highly unlikely), he would realize that his political career is finished no matter what he does. So having this power over Trump as his last official act may give him more happiness than anything else he’s done as VP.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:41:36am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:42:30am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:42:39am

re: #196 The Pie Overlord!

But wouldn’t giving Trump section 230 just backfire on him anyway?

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b.d. (We Won!)  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:43:33am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

But wouldn’t giving Trump section 230 just backfire on him anyway?

I really don’t want to defend Twitter & Facebook anymore either.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:44:26am

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

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All that means is that they’ll have to actually vote on it if McConnell will even have it on the floor, correct?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:46:59am

re: #200 thedopefishlives

All that means is that they’ll have to actually vote on it if McConnell will even have it on the floor, correct?

Vote on the McConnell version that includes poison pills; there will be no Senate vote on a clean bill.

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:48:50am

re: #196 The Pie Overlord!

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As I said when Donny made his grand announcement the other night, Mitch is going to use Sec 230 and “voter fraud” as his excuse to kill $2,000 checks. And when the bill dies due to a Dem filibuster, he’ll shake his head and whine that he wants so badly to give voters those checks but Dems are standing in the way and he won’t be able to make it happen unless Loeffler and Purdue win next week.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:49:08am

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

Vote on the McConnell version that includes poison pills; there will be no Senate vote on a clean bill.

That motherfucker.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:56:02am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I saw that page! Congratulations. We’re doing well enough right now; lotta story going on in the comments here, but at least now we’re in a stable place.

You’re absolutely spot on about that last paragraph. It’s taken me a while to understand, fully, the kind of idealistic fervor that must have been in the room when they wrote the Declaration, the Articles, and the Constitution. This was a nation and a group of men fresh off the high of going toe-to-toe with the King of Bloody England and his Royal Army and Navy, and filled with Enlightenment philosophies that they felt their counterparts across the pond could stand to learn a lesson from. I can excuse them for being shortsighted; we just need to figure out how to fix it, with the assumption that someday someone is going to come along to try any way possible to break our work.

It’s kind of like writing a computer program, in a way; you start out with the best intentions, making naive assumptions about the inputs your users are going to put into your system. Then when someone goes all Bobby Tables on you, you learn to put in rules and ways to test them. Then another, bigger idiot comes along and breaks it in another way. Rinse and repeat, but gaining experience, and hopefully not breaking the system altogether in the meantime.

And while they were writing the Constitution France was going revolutionary in a different manner. Lots of enlightenment words being tossed around, but also soon to sink into a sea of blood and eventually resurface with an authoritarian in charge.

From my IT days I had a rule of thumb that the amount of code you had to write to idiot proof the inputs (especially if it was direct user input) was three times the amount of code you wrote for the function itself.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2020 • 9:56:53am

re: #188 danarchy

Not sure, but since they moved the embassy to Jerusalem they probably relocated the ambassador there as well?

The “move” from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was a ceremony for the renaming of the small existing consulate building there. The massive facility on Harkonen St. supports about 600 staff and families and several other locations in the Sharon. The scam about the ambassador’s house in Herzliya Pituach has everything to do with the value of beachfront property—valuable as residences and valuable for its proximity to the 6th Fleet. (At one point the house was reported to be rented back to the embassy at a ridiculous price.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2020 • 10:09:36am

re: #132 thedopefishlives

If she has a medical condition, they can make a reasonable accommodation. That doesn’t mean she has to be allowed in the store; she can do drive-up pickup or delivery. Fuck your entitlement.

I saw that same line of argument from someone on Facebook when the mask mandates first came up. Pretty much got raked over the coals as it was pointed out that some piece of paper would not get you into the store without a mask - but instead they’d have you wait outside and they’d get the stuff you wanted, etc. An accommodation, not you being able to flaunt a mandate.

Was amazing how shortly afterwards they found a way to mask.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2020 • 10:10:34am

re: #135 Belafon

Kroger has that in their store signs and announcements, that if you can’t wear a mask you can order online.

Wegman’s does that as well. Plus if you don’t have a mask they will give you one to wear.

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stpaulbear  Dec 29, 2020 • 10:24:24am

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

Mike Pence was the one in charge of the coronavirus task force. So the incompetence concerning the rollout is his, which is not surprising given his mishandling of AIDS when he was governor. Trump never cares about anything except claiming credit for the work of others and shifting blame to others for failures.

Wait — one exception — Trump did work hard to overturn election results. Let’s see what Pence does when he is in the hot seat next week Wednesday — it may given him pleasure that he can, in essence, give the finger to Trump and Trump cannot do anything except spew mean tweets against him. Pence may think that his political future is at stake with his actions — but if he has any sense (highly unlikely), he would realize that his political career is finished no matter what he does. So having this power over Trump as his last official act may give him more happiness than anything else he’s done as VP.

I don’t think that Pence actually has any power to interfere on Wednesday other than to give a lying speech, walk out or not show up. If he pulls a no-show, Chuck Grassley is next in line to do the job.

Maybe he’ll try a reprise of his appearance at the colts vs. 49ers game in 2017, where he left the car running because he planned in advance to do the walkout stunt after some players took the knee.

He thinks he’s a genius when he does this type of stuff; he’s being edgy. He’s so clueless…

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Ferdinand  Dec 29, 2020 • 10:41:40am

re: #199 b.d. (We Won!)

Yeah, but we don’t want Charles to be liable for the shit we say here either …


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