VIDEO: Pelosi Slams Republican Response to Marjorie Taylor Greene: “The Enemy Within”

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi slammed House Republican leaders for not doing more to rebuke GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia over her shocking rhetoric and past statements, saying the focus must be on leadership.

“What I’m concerned about is the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives, who is willing to overlook, ignore those statements,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference, days after CNN reported Greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians — including Pelosi — in 2018 and 2019 before being elected to Congress. The statements were part a CNN KFile review of hundreds of posts and comments from Greene’s Facebook page.

Greene is also facing criticism for a video of her confronting Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg before she was elected to Congress went viral Wednesday. And last week, other students who survived the Parkland, Florida, school shooting and families of the victims are calling for Greene’s resignation, after comments surfaced that showed her agreeing with people who said the 2018 shooting was a “false flag” operation, remarks Pelosi called special attention to Thursday. The California Democrat also criticized Greene’s placement on the House Committee on Education and Labor.

“Assigning her to the Education Committee when she has mocked the killing of little children at Sandy Hook Elementary School, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in high school at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school — what could they be thinking?” Pelosi asked Thursday. “Or is thinking too generous a word for what they might be doing? It’s absolutely appalling, and I think the focus has to be on the Republican leadership of this House of Representatives for the disregard they have for the death of those children.”
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:27:43am

I like Nancy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:29:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:31:37am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

I like Nancy.

She says stuff other Democrats only think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:32:52am

It is time to draw a line in the sand and no longer allow madness to be mainstreamed. There is nothing excusable about condoning threats of violence or death to lawmakers, nor is there any rational reason to allow firearms to be carried in Congress except by security personnel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:33:12am

The thread moved on, so I’ll post again.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:34:06am

It’s a bit of an understatement to say she “slammed” MTG - she eviscerated her, then used her vivisected carcass to rip the bottom jaw off of GOP leader McCarthy and force feed the contents of Marjorie’s bowels to him. And she did it with grace.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:35:02am
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Citizen K  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:35:35am
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Teukka  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:36:31am
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Florida Panhandler  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:37:03am

re: #6 darthstar

It’s a bit of an understatement to say she “slammed” MTG - she eviscerated her, then used her vivisected carcass to rip the bottom jaw off of GOP leader McCarthy and force feed the contents of Marjorie’s bowels to him. And she did it with grace.

And it won’t make a bit of difference to the 35%-47% of America that wants to either diminish, imprison, deport or execute the other parts of the country.

The old GOP is entirely gone. In its place is a violent nihilist utopian fever dream centered around white supremacism.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:37:37am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:38:28am
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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:39:08am

“…Video of Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene confronting Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg before she was elected to Congress went viral Wednesday amid an uproar over newly surfaced comments she made in 2018 and 2019 as reported by CNN’s KFile”.

HARASSING is the word you’re looking for, CNN.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:39:48am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:41:07am
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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:42:48am
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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:42:56am

re: #10 Florida Panhandler

And it won’t make a bit of difference to the 35%-47% of America that wants to either diminish, imprison, deport or execute the other parts of the country.

The old GOP is entirely gone. In its place is a violent nihilist utopian fever dream centered around white supremacism.

a good chunk of who werent even alive before the civil rights act was passed

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:43:49am
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:44:55am

re: #9 Teukka

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It’s time to figure out who owns it.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:45:21am

Greene is attempting damage control by pointing out her social media posts that aren’t incendiary, aren’t spouting conspiracy theories, and aren’t inciting people to violence. She’s been attempting to delete social media posts that are suspect.

The internet is forever, so those efforts will not succeed at anything other than showing bad intent and knowing that the posts are bad for her. Destroying (or attempting to destroy) evidence is a bad look.

The reality is that the GOP has a huge problem from Trump on down to the core voters who backed Trump and keep electing know nothing extremists like Greene. They are amoral, corrupt, criminal, racist white nationalists, and they’d be fine with overthrowing the govt to remain in power indefinitely.

The party refuses to address this issue because the Trumpists threaten others into silence, the treasonweasel curious are spineless, and the few who might put nation ahead of party are being hounded out of the GOP entirely. That leaves a smaller rump GOP that is more extreme and less inclined to moderate because there’s nothing left to moderate. It’s between the outright Nazis and those who are fine being fascists.

GOP delenda est.

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Teukka  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:48:14am

re: #19 Belafon

It’s time to figure out who owns it.

Yep.

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Teukka  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:48:51am

re: #21 Teukka

Yep.

Or if people got caught applying thumbscrews to the company.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:49:05am

Amusing.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:49:48am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The thread moved on, so I’ll post again.

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I didn’t realize Robinhood was an app that was part of the Crypto culture - I hope they’re above board because a lot of people could be ripped off.

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Teukka  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:49:57am
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aatharuv  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:50:08am

From the other thread…
re: #288 Renaissance_Man

No, but it can earn a lot of Indian, Middle Eastern, Chinese, and Hispanic votes. And in the US political system, having less votes doesn’t mean you lose. Not at the Presidential level, not at the state level, not at any level.

re: #296 No Malarkey!

I think you are overestimating the appeal white nationalism has to people of color.

At least some people of color are avoiding “white nationalism”, or putting their fingers in their ears when the GOP dog-whistles*

The GOP has also been running on a Black Lives don’t matter and South of the USA Lives don’t matter platform and still getting a substantial portion of the Hispanic vote (even more than its share of the African and for that matter Indian American votes.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:52:09am

re: #19 Belafon

It’s time to figure out who owns it.

It was founded by two people who’d made their names building high-speed trading platforms to fleece the middle class.

In May and August of last year, they raised $480,000,000 from two hedge funds, Sequoia Capital and D1 Capital Partners.

en.wikipedia.org

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:52:23am

re: #9 Teukka

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Rather than the capitol looks like we need to storm Wall Street and their hench-businesses

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:56:01am

The kids are getting unruly …

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:57:12am

i’m seeing this stock market / hedge fund thing as similar to what happened with trump’s presidency

not the same, but similar enough

there was / are an unwritten set of rules
most of the players tended to accept and adhere to them
as long as they sort of agreed and played along, this - more or less worked

someone (or a group) comes along and steps way outside the previously accepted norms - whether across the legal/illegal line or not.

and the weaknesses, the flaws in the system, become obvious

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:57:18am

re: #28 Eventual Carrion

Rather than the capitol looks like we need to storm Wall Street and their hench-businesses

Class-action lawsuit filed against Robinhood for restricting trading (The Hill, today)

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:57:32am

re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Amusing.

[Embedded content]

Yes, we should leave all this to the old rich fucks at home trading with the money they inherited.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 10:58:17am

There are major parallels to the plot of “The Big Short”, namely again that when “little people” try to benefit from the same rules as the Big Players, they get shut down or squeezed out.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:00:14am

The traitors are coming out all over. First, terrorist leader Nick Fuentes announces his true allegiance, as though any serious person had any doubt:

And a secession ballot initiative has been introduced in the Texas legislature:
Herman: Texas secession bill filed in House

There it is in black and white and with an official bill number. As promised by secessionist Rep. Kyle Biedermann, R-Fredericksburg, House Bill 1359, the first step toward reincarnation of Texas as an independent country among the nations, was tossed into the legislative hopper on Tuesday.

It’s most likely headed for the legislative chipper to be spit out along with lots of other bad ideas. But don’t laugh, Biedermann and his backers are serious. And, as I told you in my recent column about their Jan. 21 virtual town hall meeting, they’re also potentially problematic, too.

HB 1359 is pretty simple. If approved by the Texas House and Senate and signed by Gov. Greg Abbott (each of which is unlikely), the Nov. 2 ballot would include this nonbinding referendum question: “Should the legislature of the State of Texas submit a plan for leaving the United States of America and establishing an independent republic?”

No, it shouldn’t. But a Biedermann press release announcing the bill filing says there are “indications that the Republic of Texas would not just survive, but thrive as an independent nation.”

Biedermann owns Biedermann’s Ace Hardware in Fredericksburg.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:00:35am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It was founded by two people who’d made their names building high-speed trading platforms to fleece the middle class.

In May and August of last year, they raised $480,000,000 from two hedge funds, Sequoia Capital and D1 Capital Partners.

en.wikipedia.org

In other words, they are beholden to hedge fund managers. I see a lot of lawsuits going after them.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:01:16am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are major parallels to the plot of “The Big Short”, namely again that when “little people” try to play by the same rules as the Big Players, they get shut down or squeezed out.

Yep. And this is already inflaming people, who were aggrieved and acting out, into further fits of online rage.

And as we have learned VERY recently - what happens online does NOT stay online.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:02:13am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are major parallels to the plot of “The Big Short”, namely again that when “little people” try to play by the same rules as the Big Players, they get shut down or squeezed out.

And when you play by the unwritten rules, lotteries remain the more likely way you can become a millionaire over the stock market.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:03:09am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The traitors are coming out all over. First, terrorist leader Nick Fuentes announces his true allegiance, as though any serious person had any doubt:

[Embedded content]

And a secession ballot initiative has been introduced in the Texas legislature:
Herman: Texas secession bill filed in House

Biedermann owns Biedermann’s Ace Hardware in Fredericksburg.

Biedermann looking at Brexit and going “That seems awesome.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:03:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:04:16am

re: #35 Belafon

In other words, they are beholden to hedge fund managers. I see a lot of lawsuits going after them.

Yup. One already filed today for restricting trading (in the above Hill article). According to the Wikipedia article, over the last several years they have received cash infusions from multiple hedge funds.

At least from this non-trader, it would look as though that company (and several other retail trading companies) are now all acting in concert to protect hedge funds from retail traders who figured out how to fuque them by their own rules.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:04:43am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Here is Biedermann’s Ace Hardware in Fredericksburg. Note that the secesh tool is still flying the Stars and Stripes. He also still sells them, though a selection of Russian flags might be more appropriate.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:05:25am

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup. One already filed today for restricting trading (in the above Hill article). According to the Wikipedia article, over the last several years they have received cash infusions from multiple hedge funds.

At least from this non-trader, it would look as though that company (and several other retail trading companies) are now all acting in concert to protect hedge funds from retail traders who figured out how to fuque them by their own rules.

Yep. They’re circling the wagons.

This will only serve to increase the amount of rage & attention directed their way

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:09:32am

The ghost of CuriousLurker (pbuh) strikes hard:

re: #283 No Malarkey!

You think the GOP can earn a lot of black votes running on a “black lives don’t matter” platform? The GOP has lost the popular vote in the US presidential election in 7 of the last 8 races.

The question is really whether the right has a reservoir of “eligible but not voting” people who will be willing to come out next time. Two thirds of eligible voters voted in 2020 (highest turnout since 1900), which argues against it — a further increase in turnout seems unlikely to me.

But the increase of turnout for was about half again as much as the increase for DT, so Biden won easily. The question for the future is whether Democrats can muster all those people going forward. And not get hit by the kind of imbalance that screwed us in 2016.(BUT WE WON ARIZONA AND GEORGIA!)

We need to spend our time now insuring that voting is easier (and possible). That, and reminding people what the GOP stands for. (More than 30,000 people have left the party since the insurrection — and that’s only what’s reported by states that report their numbers weekly. More to come…)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:11:25am
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PrairieQueen  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:12:25am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

So, does that mean Texas builds a wall around the entire state, including the Mexican border, 100% funds and supports itself, is declared a rogue terrorist state, is subject to tariffs and extraordinary banking restrictions, and can fuck right off the next time a disaster hits? Because those are the upsides I see.

That Texas/Oklahoma border crossing is going to be wild.//

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:13:21am

And again:

re: #284 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I never had stock losses, because I never had stocks. My wife lost her money before I met her.

In the Great Depression, it wasn’t the ultra-wealthy who lost money. The same with the Great Recession. Nor the Covid-19 pandemic (look at the extremely wealthy people like Jeff Bezos who have made billions while others have lost everything).

The ultra-wealthy lost tons of money in the Great Depression. They remained wealthy because their investments were diversified. The same with the Great Recession. As to the covid pandemic, you may not have noticed this, but the stock market hasn’t gone down, overall. (Future, who knows?) The people who have lost money didn’t lose it in the stock market, they lost their jobs and the repugs weren’t interested in doing anything about that.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:14:26am

Third CL’s the charm…

re: #298 darthstar

So we got lucky.

Nah.

Blacks would still have turned out in force. Other groups disgusted by kids in cages, horrified by white supremacy, military revolted by the betrayal and abandonment of the Kurds among other things, and so on, would still have turned out. In my area, we started building structures to push our candidates, increase voter registration and get out the vote in 2017. And DT was never popular except among his shrinking base.

It might have been closer, but I think we could have pulled it out anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:14:31am

re: #46 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Poor people just lost all their savings when the banks collapsed or their farms when they could not longer make the mortgage payments.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:17:24am
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Teukka  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:17:45am

Brutal joke:
A: “Damnit, you’re fact resistant!”
B: “I don’t believe that!”

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danarchy  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:19:16am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are major parallels to the plot of “The Big Short”, namely again that when “little people” try to play by the same rules as the Big Players, they get shut down or squeezed out.

The problem is people think Wall Street has static rules like a game of chess or something but it doesn’t. In the 80’s when the Hunt brothers cornered the market on silver the brokerages kind of said uhuh no more we will let you close positions but no more buying.

I am not sure Robinhood is to blame, they may be, but they may have gotten pressure not just from hedge funds but from the exchanges themselves and if they lost access to the exchanges then they are done.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:20:26am

From trying to get educated on the whole GME revolution, I get the sense that the core of the reddit rebels are not investors or speculators. They’re suicide bombers.

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PrairieQueen  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:22:18am

re: #45 PrairieQueen

Also, any military contracts or bases get canceled. Any federal installations of any kind are vacated. Their sports teams only play each other, or Russia or Mexico.

That leaves Texas chewing on “the best steak in Texas” all day while they try to attract another country’s tourists to the fucking Alamo.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:22:20am

re: #45 PrairieQueen

So, does that mean Texas builds a wall around the entire state, including the Mexican border, 100% funds and supports itself, is declared a rogue terrorist state, is subject to tariffs and extraordinary banking restrictions, and can fuck right off the next time a disaster hits? Because those are the upsides I see.

That Texas/Oklahoma border crossing is going to be wild.//

Not to mention that the US military will leave and take all their tanks, artillery, warplanes, and nuclear bombs with them. Texas will be left with a 106 year old battleship that is about to sink of its own accord, and a mass of AR-15s. The one-truck contractors and Meal Team Six “militia” are not exactly Sam Houston’s boys. I would bet on the Mexicans in a re-match.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:22:45am

re: #28 Eventual Carrion

Rather than the capitol looks like we need to storm Wall Street and their hench-businesses

We tried that a while back, actually (OWS). Maybe this time we can make it work.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:23:08am

re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Amusing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:23:52am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

Another young man, wearing sweatpants and a long-sleeved undershirt, seemed unconvinced. Frantically flipping through a three-ring binder on Cruz’s desk, he muttered, “There’s gotta be something in here we can fucking use against these scumbags.” Someone looking on commented, with serene confidence, “Cruz would want us to do this, so I think we’re good.”

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:24:19am

Did not realize that Soylent Green is set only in 2022.

Saw that as a boy back in the 70s. Was inspired to read all the rest of Harry Harrison’s books. Fell in love with the whole concept of the Stainless Steel Rat, and studied & worked with computers … and here I am.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:24:56am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And when you play by the unwritten rules, lotteries remain the more likely way you can become a millionaire over the stock market.

There you go again…

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Alephnaught  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:25:04am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The traitors are coming out all over. First, terrorist leader Nick Fuentes announces his true allegiance, as though any serious person had any doubt:

[Tweet by Fuentes] I’m not a Russian bot but I wish I was. Russia is a serious country with a real leader. [/Twitter]

Has anyone tried the evergreen response: “If you like Russia so much, why don’t you go live there?”

EDIT: Did it myself.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:25:09am

re: #47 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Third CL’s the charm…

re: #298 darthstar

So we got lucky.

Nah.

Blacks would still have turned out in force. Other groups disgusted by kids in cages, horrified by white supremacy, military revolted by the betrayal and abandonment of the Kurds among other things, and so on, would still have turned out. In my area, we started building structures to push our candidates, increase voter registration and get out the vote in 2017. And DT was never popular except among his shrinking base.

It might have been closer, but I think we could have pulled it out anyway.

I think it’s worth noting that African-Americans, as a voting bloc, are very judicious with their vote. They will turn out in droves when they think they can win, and not turn out when they think they can’t. Part of this is simply logistics - the barriers that this country has thrown up to prevent them voting are so great, and their income stream so tenuous, that for many of them, spending a whole day standing in line or even longer going back and forth through bureaucracies to get a vote in represents a lot of lost income. As a result of both this and historical precedent, they know their vote is very precious, and as a group, they have struggled for decades to get and maintain representation. Even Obama had to earn their vote - they did not rally to him until he showed that he could win. The same, ultimately, was true for Biden.

Voter turnout in this last election was very much driven by Florida Man, both for him and against him. Now the results of that vote must be vindicated - Democrats need to use that power to enact real change.

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ipsos  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:25:45am

It’s possible - likely, even - that MTG, Boebert and/or Cawthorn are stupid enough/uninterested in actually governing enough/publicly extreme enough that one or two or even all three will manage to get themselves expelled from the House before finishing out a first term.

That’s not a bad thing. But it’s also not enough, and can’t be enough, if it provides cover for others whose views are just as extreme but who are better at keeping it hidden behind a civil facade.

“See? We did what we needed to do and got rid of those three. Now give us everything we want, because COMPROMISE and UNITY!”

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:26:10am

re: #45 PrairieQueen

So, does that mean Texas builds a wall around the entire state, including the Mexican border, 100% funds and supports itself, is declared a rogue terrorist state, is subject to tariffs and extraordinary banking restrictions, and can fuck right off the next time a disaster hits? Because those are the upsides I see.

That Texas/Oklahoma border crossing is going to be wild.//

GOP loses 38 electoral votes, Cruz and Cornholio out of the Senate, Gohmert Pyle, Chip Roy, Crenshaw and bunch of other assholes out of the House…

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:26:22am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Poor people just lost all their savings when the banks collapsed or their farms when they could not longer make the mortgage payments.

Happened to my gramps. TWICE. First time because one brother wanted to take out a loan on the family farm(s) to open his own machine shop, and then the bank called the load and took the best farmland for 100 miles.

Second time when he worked himself 1/2 to death in the WPA, saved every nickel, came home to buy back the farm … and the bank he put his money in collapsed overnight.

Not such a big fan of banks, my family.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:26:55am

re: #26 aatharuv

From the other thread…

At least some people of color are avoiding “white nationalism”, or putting their fingers in their ears when the GOP dog-whistles*

The GOP has also been running on a Black Lives don’t matter and South of the USA Lives don’t matter platform and still getting a substantial portion of the Hispanic vote (even more than its share of the African and for that matter Indian American votes.)

Trump got a larger percentage of those voters than in 2016, but the Democrats still ran up big margins with POC, and Trump still couldn’t crack 47% of the popular vote.

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wrenchwench  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:28:10am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Stephen L. Miller’s post should be the death of birdwatch.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:28:46am
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Citizen K  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:29:46am

re: #66 wrenchwench

Stephen L. Miller’s post should be the death of birdwatch.

It will probably instead be the very sort of thing that sustains it, which underscores how “brilliant” an idea it is….

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:29:56am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Poor people just lost all their savings when the banks collapsed or their farms when they could not longer make the mortgage payments.

No doubt, but I was talking about rich people and the stock market.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:30:30am

That’s a shame gif.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:31:29am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The traitors are coming out all over. First, terrorist leader Nick Fuentes announces his true allegiance, as though any serious person had any doubt:

[Embedded content]

And a secession ballot initiative has been introduced in the Texas legislature:
Herman: Texas secession bill filed in House

Biedermann owns Biedermann’s Ace Hardware in Fredericksburg.

“a Biedermann press release announcing the bill filing says there are “indications that the Republic of Texas would not just survive, but thrive as an independent nation.”

What “Indications”?

And you want to set up a country based on that?
Go ahead
But you don’t get to take the land. That would be theft

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:31:52am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And then we find out it was Cruz that was posting the facebook information about the Congresspeople being in the tunnels.

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piratedan  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:32:13am

re: #67 No Malarkey!

its because they don’t see what they did as “damaging”, they see what they did as the righting of wrongs… i.e. making sure that the right people get the full extent of the cruelty intended. Why should they want to “fix” that? With these folks holding such positions of stridency, finding common ground almost requires a political interpreter, because we “we” think something means doesn’t compute over there as the same idea/concept apparently.

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Alephnaught  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:33:12am

re: #50 Teukka

Brutal joke:
A: “Damnit, you’re fact resistant!”
B: “I don’t believe that!”

Reminds me of a joke in an otherwise throwaway UK comedy sitcom in the 1980s.

A: And who are you?
B: Oh, they call “Mr xxx The Contradictory”!
A: Oh, really?
B: … No?

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:33:24am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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In fact, Mr. Miller, AOC did not say Cruz tried to get her killed. Also, its, not it’s..

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:33:47am

re: #9 Teukka

Wre: #44 Dread Pirate Ron

When bees are swarming around a queen like that they’re totally dormant. He probably only got stung once or twice when he shook them off his arm into the colony.

Best job of my life, working for a beekeeper. So much fun and sciency too! Grafting queens from larvae, pollinating almond orchards, then the whole process of honey extraction.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:34:39am

re: #74 Alephnaught

Reminds me of a joke in an otherwise throwaway UK comedy sitcom in the 1980s.

A: And who are you?
B: Oh, they call “Mr xxx The Contradictory”!
A: Oh, really?
B: … No?

“I came here for an argument.”
“No you didn’t!”

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:34:42am

re: #52 Decatur Deb

From trying to get educated on the whole GME revolution, I get the sense that the core of the reddit rebels are not investors or speculators. They’re suicide bombers.

Not sure “suicide” fits. How many are investing money they can’t afford to lose?

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stpaulbear  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:35:13am

re: #63 🌹UOJB!

GOP loses 38 electoral votes, Cruz and Cornholio out of the Senate, Gohmert Pyle, Chip Roy, Crenshaw and bunch of other assholes out of the House…

And Beto O’Rourke forms an underground railroad to get people the hell out of Texastan.

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wrenchwench  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:35:40am

re: #68 Citizen K

It will probably instead be the very sort of thing that sustains it, which underscores how “brilliant” an idea it is….

@ jack is not being his best person.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:35:53am

re: #76 darthstar

W

When bees are swarming around a queen like that they’re totally dormant. He probably only got stung once or twice when he shook them off his arm into the colony.

Best job of my life, working for a beekeeper. So much fun and sciency too! Grafting queens from larvae, pollinating almond orchards, then the whole process of honey extraction.

I also worked for a bee keeper when I was in grad school in the desert outside Tucson. My job was to gather cow chips and burn them in the smoke dispenser to calm the colony down while their hives were being disassembled and raided…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:36:00am

re: #46 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

The ultra-wealthy lost tons of money in the Great Depression. They remained wealthy because their investments were diversified. The same with the Great Recession. As to the covid pandemic, you may not have noticed this, but the stock market hasn’t gone down, overall. (Future, who knows?) The people who have lost money didn’t lose it in the stock market, they lost their jobs and the repugs weren’t interested in doing anything about that.

As a retiree who never had a pension but 401(k)s from my employers, I am living comfortably (so far) on the money from my “investments”. I was fortunate to always be able to contribute maximum available to me (and sometimes there was an employer match) and made diversified investments among various mutual funds. Did not pick individual stocks. There are many middle class retirees in similar situations — companies have given up on traditional pension plans and so we went with what was offered. A healthy stock market can be the difference between being able to pay the bills or having to skimp on meals and medications.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:36:21am

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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look at how fast and easy trump screwed up so much
Look how fast and easy Joe has been able to turn so much around

Exhibit 1 why we can’t a!low a Republican president ever again

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:38:18am

re: #26 aatharuv

From the other thread…

At least some people of color are avoiding “white nationalism”, or putting their fingers in their ears when the GOP dog-whistles*

The GOP has also been running on a Black Lives don’t matter and South of the USA Lives don’t matter platform and still getting a substantial portion of the Hispanic vote (even more than its share of the African and for that matter Indian American votes.)

There are a significant number of minorities eager to race TOWARDS white nationalism in order to get first divs on the social pecking order once a white ethno-state is more or less formalized. They figure they will be last to go into the ovens.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:38:43am

Wondering if the events in the Capitol fit under this legal theory:

newrepublic.com

Prosecutors could charge Saunders for a murder she didn’t commit due to Ohio’s “felony murder” rule; people can be charged with murder if they “caused the death of another” in the course of committing, or intending to commit, a felony. More than 40 states have similar rules; in 24 states, felony murder is a capital offense, punishable by death. Saunders’s case is unique in that it was a police officer who killed the person she was charged with murdering, but it’s not at all unique for a teenager to face such a felony murder charge.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:40:04am

re: #78 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Not sure “suicide” fits. How many are investing money they can’t afford to lose?

Death Commandos, then. The motivation of the hardcore holders is definitely jihad, not profit.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:40:44am

re: #61 Renaissance_Man

I think it’s worth noting that African-Americans, as a voting bloc, are very judicious with their vote. They will turn out in droves when they think they can win, and not turn out when they think they can’t. Part of this is simply logistics - the barriers that this country has thrown up to prevent them voting are so great, and their income stream so tenuous, that for many of them, spending a whole day standing in line or even longer going back and forth through bureaucracies to get a vote in represents a lot of lost income. As a result of both this and historical precedent, they know their vote is very precious, and as a group, they have struggled for decades to get and maintain representation. Even Obama had to earn their vote - they did not rally to him until he showed that he could win. The same, ultimately, was true for Biden.

Voter turnout in this last election was very much driven by Florida Man, both for him and against him. Now the results of that vote must be vindicated - Democrats need to use that power to enact real change.

Biden seems to be putting the “BLM” issue near the top of his list. If he loses interest, we need to remind him.

Also, see what I said about making voting easier — we need to keep pushing.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:40:47am

re: #83 Dangerman

And a GOPer can undo what Biden undid with another EO.

That’s the problem of governing by EO when Congress is incapable of legislating. GOP obstructionism leaves no option except to use EO, an long term is a poor option.

GOPers kvetching about Biden EOs had no problems when Trump was spewing fact-free EOs to fulfill GOP objectives, even though they weren’t based in law or reality and were easily contested. GOP contesting Biden EOs are going to have a harder time, notwithstanding that idiotic judge in Texas who issued TRO on Biden’s immigration deportation pause.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:43:58am

re: #71 Dangerman

“a Biedermann press release announcing the bill filing says there are “indications that the Republic of Texas would not just survive, but thrive as an independent nation.”

What “Indications”?

And you want to set up a country based on that?
Go ahead
But you don’t get to take the land. That would be theft

Also, that’s what they said about brexit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:45:25am

re: #89 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Also, that’s what they said about brexit.

Texit as such a ring to it.

Maybe Mexico could invade and re-annex them…

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:45:36am

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

The ultra-wealthy lost tons of money in the Great Depression. They remained wealthy because their investments were diversified.

Yep. I am worried about this reddit thing not because of hedge funds (fuck’em) but because I am afraid a lot of people will lose money they can’t afford. I’ve seen a lot of posts about ordinary people thinking they are going to make money at the expense of the hedge funds, and some will, but most will lose it all.

I disagree with Amouse - ordinary people are far more likely to become millionaires in the stock market than from the lottery. But that’s by quietly having part of your paycheck sent to your 401k year after year, decade after decade, preferably mostly in index funds. People who think they can jump on this great thing they heard about are almost always doomed.

So the kamikazis I am cheering on. People spending more than mad money on this not so much.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:45:58am

r/wallstreetbets:

creature1231
prefers it dark, iykwim
27 minutes ago

Do you want to finally stick it to the people who fucked your parents out of their mortgage in 2008? Then just HOLD or buy more, they’re losing and this whole fiasco right now is their final attempt to create Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD).

DO NOT LET THEM WIN.
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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:46:34am

Good point.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:48:15am

RE: The Robinhood lawsuit and shenanigannery, there’s this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:48:27am

re: #75 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

In fact, Mr. Miller, AOC did not say Cruz tried to get her killed. Also, its, not it’s..

She did tweet that: In response to a Cruz tweet, she said “you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago”

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:48:58am

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

As a retiree who never had a pension but 401(k)s from my employers, I am living comfortably (so far) on the money from my “investments”. I was fortunate to always be able to contribute maximum available to me (and sometimes there was an employer match) and made diversified investments among various mutual funds. Did not pick individual stocks. There are many middle class retirees in similar situations — companies have given up on traditional pension plans and so we went with what was offered. A healthy stock market can be the difference between being able to pay the bills or having to skimp on meals and medications.

Pretty much what I did with the 403b (401k for nonprofits). Although I also have a (small) pension.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:49:06am

re: #85 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Wondering if the events in the Capitol fit under this legal theory:

newrepublic.com

I have been reading that the federal felony murder statute is quite limited so probably not.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:49:41am

re: #73 piratedan

its because they don’t see what they did as “damaging”, they see what they did as the righting of wrongs… i.e. making sure that the right people get the full extent of the cruelty intended. Why should they want to “fix” that? With these folks holding such positions of stridency, finding common ground almost requires a political interpreter, because we “we” think something means doesn’t compute over there as the same idea/concept apparently.

There is no common ground when one side wants to destroy the other side who mostly only wants to make things better for everyone

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:50:08am

I’d call it capitalism, Mr. Reich.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:50:55am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Death Commandos, then. The motivation of the hardcore holders is definitely jihad, not profit.

Works for me. This looks more like revenge than anything else.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:51:22am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I came here for an argument.”
“No you didn’t!”

Godwin’s python law

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:52:23am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also worked for a bee keeper when I was in grad school in the desert outside Tucson. My job was to gather cow chips and burn them in the smoke dispenser to calm the colony down while their hives were being disassembled and raided…

That’s some good shit we’re smoking…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:54:36am

re: #91 Charmingly Persistent

Yep. I am worried about this reddit thing not because of hedge funds (fuck’em) but because I am afraid a lot of people will lose money they can’t afford. I’ve seen a lot of posts about ordinary people thinking they are going to make money at the expense of the hedge funds, and some will, but most will lose it all.

I disagree with Amouse - ordinary people are far more likely to become millionaires in the stock market than from the lottery. But that’s by quietly having part of your paycheck sent to your 401k year after year, decade after decade, preferably mostly in index funds. People who think they can jump on this great thing they heard about are almost always doomed.

So the kamikazis I am cheering on. People spending more than mad money on this not so much.

I don’t know whether the folks who started this have made it clear that no-one should be in it for the money. But it may not matter — “A ___ and his ___ are soon parted” is another saying for the ages.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:54:40am

re: #85 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Wondering if the events in the Capitol fit under this legal theory:

newrepublic.com

Brenda Leigh Johnson would do it

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aatharuv  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:55:24am

re: #89 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Also, that’s what they said about brexit.

Texit would be _so_ much more complicated than Brexit.

1) Britain had the explicit right to leave the EU. Texas doesn’t, at least according to the Supreme Court.
2) Britain has an independent currency, thanks to _George Soros_* of all people. Texas uses the US Dollar and hasn’t had its own currency since before it joined the US the first time. Would Texas banks be able to deposit into the Federal Reserve system? Why should they? None of the other countries using the dollar do. Other “dollarized” countries have the benefit of being microstates and their use of the US dollar is tacitly accepted by the US. Texas has too big of an economy to unilaterally give away control of their monetary policy to foreigners, so they’d need to create their own central bank, their own currency, figure out how to exchange bank deposits from the US Dollar to the Texas Buck, exchange currency notes (within their borders).

3) Texas doesn’t have it’s own citizenship laws. Britain does. All they had to do for their own citizens was that those British citizens who had full right of movement within the EU lost it.
4) Texas isn’t an island. Britain can control entry much easier because it is an island, except for the Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border, which though small is complicated enough. Everything is much bigger in Texas, including its unguarded borders.
5) Texas would need to build up a Department of State/Foreign ministry from Scratch. the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office has been active throughout the world with representatives ~everywhere.
*Yeah, Soros’s run on the Pound caused the UK to drop out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism back in the early 1990’s, which took them out of the countries that ended up joining the Euro a few years later.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:55:34am

re: #88 lawhawk

And a GOPer can undo what Biden undid with another EO.

That’s the problem of governing by EO when Congress is incapable of legislating. GOP obstructionism leaves no option except to use EO, an long term is a poor option.

GOPers kvetching about Biden EOs had no problems when Trump was spewing fact-free EOs to fulfill GOP objectives, even though they weren’t based in law or reality and were easily contested. GOP contesting Biden EOs are going to have a harder time, notwithstanding that idiotic judge in Texas who issued TRO on Biden’s immigration deportation pause.

Exactly why I said what I said

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:57:47am

re: #88 lawhawk

And a GOPer can undo what Biden undid with another EO.

That’s the problem of governing by EO when Congress is incapable of legislating. GOP obstructionism leaves no option except to use EO, an long term is a poor option.

GOPers kvetching about Biden EOs had no problems when Trump was spewing fact-free EOs to fulfill GOP objectives, even though they weren’t based in law or reality and were easily contested. GOP contesting Biden EOs are going to have a harder time, notwithstanding that idiotic judge in Texas who issued TRO on Biden’s immigration deportation pause.

This is the argument that needs to be made to any Democrats opposing ending the filibuster.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:59:00am

re: #105 aatharuv

Not to mention there would probably be a “Texodus” of major companies pulling out of Houston/Dallas/Austin/San Antonio because it makes more sense for them to be U.S. based instead of having to adapt to being in another country.

That’s potentially a lot of money (and a lot of jobs) walking out the door.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:59:19am

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

She did tweet that: In response to a Cruz tweet, she said “you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago”

That doesn’t add up to “tried to have me murdered” to me (YMMV). More like “corollary to your actions.” I never want to be a moderator.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:59:40am

re: #73 piratedan

its because they don’t see what they did as “damaging”, they see what they did as the righting of wrongs… i.e. making sure that the right people get the full extent of the cruelty intended. Why should they want to “fix” that? With these folks holding such positions of stridency, finding common ground almost requires a political interpreter, because we “we” think something means doesn’t compute over there as the same idea/concept apparently.

Same as in 1861, when white supremacists fought for the “freedom” to treat blacks as chattel.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 11:59:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:02:49pm

re: #91 Charmingly Persistent

Yep. I am worried about this reddit thing not because of hedge funds (fuck’em) but because I am afraid a lot of people will lose money they can’t afford. I’ve seen a lot of posts about ordinary people thinking they are going to make money at the expense of the hedge funds, and some will, but most will lose it all.

I disagree with Amouse - ordinary people are far more likely to become millionaires in the stock market than from the lottery. But that’s by quietly having part of your paycheck sent to your 401k year after year, decade after decade, preferably mostly in index funds. People who think they can jump on this great thing they heard about are almost always doomed.

So the kamikazis I am cheering on. People spending more than mad money on this not so much.

I agree with you on becoming a millionaire — personally never put money in index funds, but invested in ordinary diversified funds provided under the 401(k) for almost 40 years. You have to be disciplined, invest the max you can under the plan, hopefully remain employed and never forced to withdraw money prematurely due to financial hardships.

But everything depends on the market remaining stable over the long term and you always having sufficient funds to live on before retirement — and many don’t have that luxury; their income is insufficient and they are overwhelmed with expenses that prevent saving for the future.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:02:57pm

re: #46 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

And again:

The ultra-wealthy lost tons of money in the Great Depression. They remained wealthy because their investments were diversified. The same with the Great Recession. As to the covid pandemic, you may not have noticed this, but the stock market hasn’t gone down, overall. (Future, who knows?) The people who have lost money didn’t lose it in the stock market, they lost their jobs and the repugs weren’t interested in doing anything about that.

Sure some wealthy people lost money in the Great Depression or Great Recession.

Those weren’t the people standing in bread lines or living in their cars.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:03:04pm

re: #111 Dread Pirate Ron

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Warner Herzog promised to eat his shoe over something or other a while back. Difference is, he actually did it (well-boiled, without the sole).

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:05:42pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention there would probably be a “Texodus” of major companies pulling out of Houston/Dallas/Austin/San Antonio because it makes more sense for them to be U.S. based instead of having to adapt to being in another country.

That’s potentially a lot of money (and a lot of jobs) walking out the door.

The whole thing is a silly if not idiotic idea.
Its all posturing and politicking to create a grift

Won’t happen
Can’t happen
Never happen

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:06:50pm

re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree with you on becoming a millionaire — personally never put money in index funds, but invested in ordinary diversified funds provided under the 401(k) for almost 40 years. You have to be disciplined, invest the max you can under the plan, hopefully remain employed and never forced to withdraw money prematurely due to financial hardships.

But everything depends on the market remaining stable over the long term and you always having sufficient funds to live on before retirement — and many don’t have that luxury; their income is insufficient and they are overwhelmed with expenses that prevent saving for the future.

Which is why we need better safety nets, no matter what happens to the economy. People shouldn’t have to depend even partly on luck to survive retirement. But that’s another giant issue.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:07:12pm
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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:07:18pm

Pretty cool - Covid-hit New Orleans turns homes into floats for Mardi Gras

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:07:53pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sure some wealthy people lost money in the Great Depression or Great Recession.

Those weren’t the people standing in bread lines or living in their cars.

WTF? That’s what I said, in the very paragraph you just quoted.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:08:29pm
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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:10:58pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Its also because Biden said “unity” and trump never did

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:11:06pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also worked for a bee keeper when I was in grad school in the desert outside Tucson. My job was to gather cow chips and burn them in the smoke dispenser to calm the colony down while their hives were being disassembled and raided…

We put strips of burlap in our smokers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:12:30pm

re: #122 darthstar

We put strips of burlap in our smokers.

used that, too

cow chips were everywhere

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:13:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:14:22pm
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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:15:32pm
resulted in an exodus of more than 87% of the affected employees, who either quit or resigned.

Aren’t they the same thing?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:17:56pm
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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:18:21pm

re: #126 nines09

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Hello Cooper!

I found a big ball for Merle and Milo today. Oh buoy!

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nines09  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:20:44pm

re: #129 darthstar

Hello Cooper!

I found a big ball for Merle and Milo today. Oh buoy!

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Cooper would clean lose his mind on a beach. I’d love to take him to Assateague Md on the wild horse beaches. I always wanted to camp there but the bugs can drag you off in the middle of the night.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:21:41pm

re: #129 darthstar

Hello Cooper!

I found a big ball for Merle and Milo today. Oh buoy!

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Actually a mooring ball. Storm released three boats the other night. This one got lucky.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:21:51pm

re: #124 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I suppose he means “quit or retired.” I hope this is also something Biden can fix.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:21:58pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Aren’t they the same thing?

Department of Redundancy Department.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:22:37pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:22:43pm
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danarchy  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:22:58pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

r/wallstreetbets:

How many of these people exhorting folks to hold or buy more are planning to dump their own shares. There are already people who have gotten in and out of this and made millions. I am sure there are plenty of true believers, and then there are some folks who are trying to pump and dump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:26:15pm

re: #91 Charmingly Persistent

Yep. I am worried about this reddit thing not because of hedge funds (fuck’em) but because I am afraid a lot of people will lose money they can’t afford. I’ve seen a lot of posts about ordinary people thinking they are going to make money at the expense of the hedge funds, and some will, but most will lose it all.

I disagree with Amouse - ordinary people are far more likely to become millionaires in the stock market than from the lottery. But that’s by quietly having part of your paycheck sent to your 401k year after year, decade after decade, preferably mostly in index funds. People who think they can jump on this great thing they heard about are almost always doomed.

So the kamikazis I am cheering on. People spending more than mad money on this not so much.

Depending on which organisation you use to determine what qualifies as a millionaire, estimates I find seem to range from about two million households to sixteen million households. (The lower numbers generally come from those who estimate net worth excluding your primary residence, because you need a place to live—thus you probably shouldn’t consider your residence an investment.)

The overwhelming majority of those households are inherited wealth.

There are approximately three hundred winning Powerball and MegaMillions tickets which had a winning prize of one million dollars or more which went unclaimed and are forfeit.

It’s estimated that $800,000,000 of prizes of all sizes are left unclaimed every year (possibly from people who either lose a ticket, forget they bought one, accidentally destroyed it, or do not realise there are smaller prizes than the jackpot).

It turns out it is pretty tough to find in one place how many people have won a million dollars or more.

Usually several people every year win the jackpot in the MegaMillions or the Powerball. Several states also have state lottos which pay out a million dollars or more.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:26:32pm

re: #115 Dangerman

The whole thing is a silly if not idiotic idea.
Its all posturing and politicking to create a grift

Won’t happen
Can’t happen
Never happen

I won’t say never, because there could be a fascist takeover of Texas, and maybe the rest of the country decides we are better off amputating it, like a limb with gangrene. Highly unlikely though.

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:26:49pm

re: #97 Charmingly Persistent

I have been reading that the federal felony murder statute is quite limited so probably not.

Dang. Few years back, one of my students working the Innocence Project was trying to free the girl doing life without parole. There are many, many other cases that are at least as egregious.

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Citizen K  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:26:54pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Exactly right. But I think we’re going to have to get used to this. It’s like a reflex with these people to hold Democrats to standards they don’t even think of applying to Republicans because they know it would be futile.

I’m not convinced it’s the press believing that holding Republicans to standards is futile. I’m entirely convinced it’s them believing that Dems have to be held to different standards because they’re not ‘legitimate’ by default the way Republicans are consistently treated as. They’ve fully bought into the idea that anything and everything a Republican does must be right and justified at face value and that they are the only side truly capable of good faith, despite the absolute blinking obvious fact that they are the worst of bad faith actors .

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:27:54pm

Checking up on felony murder in Fed jurisdictions:

The classic law school example of the felony murder rule is that of an armed bank robbery. If a group of assailants agrees to draw guns and rob a bank, but does not plan to shoot anyone, felony murder is still an appropriate charge against all of them if one of them if someone dies in the process — even against the getaway driver who didn’t have a gun and didn’t pull the trigger.

Broadly speaking, suggestions of using the felony murder rule to hold rioters at the Capitol accountable for Babbitt’s death have some legal merit. Certainly, there were lawbreakers afoot, and a person’s death is a foreseeable result of mob violence in patrolled and secured government buildings where armed guards are present.

A criminal prosecution would require all elements to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, however. The specifics here are as of right now far less certain.

For starters, the federal murder statute (which is the law that would apply to crimes committed in the District of Columbia) lays out the following list of crimes that could constitute an underlying offense for felony murder:

“[a killing ] or committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, or robbery; or perpetrated as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children.”
You’ll notice that “rioting” or “inciting riots” isn’t on this list. Without more, it is unlikely that individuals including Donald Trump, who may have encouraged riots, could be guilty of an underlying crime appropriate for use of the felony murder rule. Some may suggest that “treason” was committed (or at least attempted), but under the statute, that’s not quite right, either. Nor is sabotage, which applies more narrowly to military supplies and installations and not to the houses of political power.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:29:59pm

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Well of course it wasn’t the speech. That was the starting gun
They were dressed
in costumes
some for actual military style action
Organized
Prepared

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:32:03pm

re: #141 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Checking up on felony murder in Fed jurisdictions:

If evidence shows that the Proud Boys or Oathkeepers were planning to kidnap or murder people, then everyone in those cells participating in the attack could be charged with felony murder. And the “gas them” comment sure looks like intent to kill.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:32:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:33:24pm

re: #136 danarchy

How many of these people exhorting folks to hold or buy more are planning to dump their own shares. There are already people who have gotten in and out of this and made millions. I am sure there are plenty of true believers, and then there are some folks who are trying to pump and dump.

Just going by the r/ postings, most are trying to make a killing. By comparing the comment content with a normal day on r/bitcoin reddits, you can see a big overlap in concerns, but the GME action has a vengeful rebellious streak that’s mostly missing from bitcoin speculators. The anti-shortsellers are after more than Lambos. (Don’t know shit about money, but I spent a lot of time on humanology.)

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:33:38pm

re: #144 darthstar

See, the King likes me again!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:34:21pm

re: #132 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I suppose he means “quit or retired.” I hope this is also something Biden can fix.

This may be more difficult and disruptive to fix. The people who moved to Colorado may not want to pick up and move back and new local hires are relying on this job and may be reluctant to move to Washington D.C..

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:36:36pm

re: #138 No Malarkey!

I won’t say never, because there could be a fascist takeover of Texas, and maybe the rest of the country decides we are better off amputating it, like a limb with gangrene. Highly unlikely though.

I don t think so
It would be occupied first in an attempt to stem the infection

You don’t like it here you can leave
You don’t like it you can disavow it
You don’t get to take the country’s assets with you
Or muck up the rest of the functioning country as you leave.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:37:38pm

re: #144 darthstar

Nice Fascist portrait. Two Dicks In Babylon I believe it’s called

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steve_davis  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:37:56pm

Having an absolute blast playing the piano for the first time in years. Completely humbled by my lack of technical ability doing even simple stuff. Yes, I can go up and down a scale, but annoyingly, my left hand doesn’t always wind up on the right finger, which means either I never actually mastered that process, or I have to relearn what used to be second nature. Also, I’ve decided my new life goal is to play piano like Oscar Peterson. Reading through the transcription of his 1959 Sinatra album while listening to it. Son of a bitch, that guy knew how to use the whole palette of chords, and has a really intriguing soloing style.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:38:08pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Let Texas secede then. I’d feel sorry for my family in Texas but otherwise 🤷🏽‍♀️. They can live under President Biden just like we had to suffer under Trump.

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danarchy  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:38:16pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

This may be more difficult and disruptive to fix. The people who moved to Colorado may not want to pick up and move back and new local hires are relying on this job and may be reluctant to move to Washington D.C..

The question is, in this day and age why do all of these offices need to be centered in DC? Aside from the brain drain this is one move of Trumps that I am on board with. He probably should have done it more gradually, but I think in the long run, a lot more of these offices should be decentralized. Spread the wealth a bit as it were.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:39:42pm

re: #144 darthstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:40:06pm

re: #150 steve_davis

Having an absolute blast playing the piano for the first time in years. Completely humbled by my lack of technical ability doing even simple stuff.

I cannot make sense out of pianos. Cannot make one hand go up while the other goes down. Only bang out chords with one hand and perhaps notes with the other.

Do better on stringed instruments where hands work together to generate notes than where they are wandering off in different directions…

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:40:49pm

re: #141 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

The theft of the lectern, theft of Pelosi’s laptop, and intent to commit murder or kidnap members of Congress or the VP may be sufficient for the federal felony murder charge.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:40:56pm

re: #119 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

WTF? That’s what I said, in the very paragraph you just quoted.

I think we might be saying the same thing in different ways.

Ken Olsen, one of the two founders of Digital Equipment Corporation (and who ultimately killed the company because of bad business decisions regarding the direction of personal computers), died extremely wealthy (he failed up) after being appointed to a new corporate board and a college board in Massachusetts. He became a major contributor to the fascist Christian orgainsation The Fellowship (also known as The Family).

My wife’s Digital stock in which she invested as an employee was rendered worthless of course, and the rest of her money evaporated when the bank which was managing Digital retirement funds somehow caused them to evaporate in the 2007-2008 conservative great recession. The bank is still doing fine, everyone at Digital lost their retirement funds. What we managed to pry out of them nearly a decade later is now sitting in an IRA at our local agricultural bank.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:41:16pm

re: #142 Dangerman

Well of course it wasn’t the speech. That was the starting gun
They were dressed
in costumes
some for actual military style action
Organized
Prepared

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We do need to be prepared, of course, but once what happens to people who get caught sinks in, I’m expecting a lot of them to hang up their cosplay armor. The Israelis did an experiment once that involved getting a lot of young “terror-curious” or actual terrorist Palestinians into marriages, and found that they stopped being terrorists — because they suddenly had something to lose. The types who swarmed the Capitol weren’t youngsters with little to lose, and once they figure out that the feds aren’t playing games, they’ll stop too. Most of them, thus the “be prepared.”

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steve_davis  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:41:29pm

re: #103 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I don’t know whether the folks who started this have made it clear that no-one should be in it for the money. But it may not matter — “A ___ and his ___ are soon parted” is another saying for the ages.

yes, it’s been humbling for me to realize just how much better my ira mutual funds are doing than the stuff I actually bought in the brokerage. Of course, if I’d been willing to hold through all of last year, I’d be up substantially, but hind-sight is fantastic that way. At the time I sold (and I sold thankfully on the upswing so I didn’t lose my shirt), I assumed covid might well kill all of us and that trump could very well be reelected. I had no idea that only one of those things would turn out not to be true.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:41:31pm

re: #148 Dangerman

I don t think so
It would be occupied first in an attempt to stem the infection

You don’t like it here you can leave
You don’t like it you can disavow it
You don’t get to take the country’s assets with you
Or muck up the rest of the functioning country as you leave.

I agree, very unlikely. But imagine if there is a high level of terrorist violence that the feds can’t get control of, and eventually the country decides they are tired of the bloodshed. Separatist movements occasionally succeed.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:41:47pm

re: #152 danarchy

The question is, in this day and age why do all of these offices need to be centered in DC? Aside from the brain drain this is one move of Trumps that I am on board with. He probably should have done it more gradually, but I think in the long run, a lot more of these offices should be decentralized. Spread the wealth a bit as it were.

If he hadn’t done it with the intent of killing it, which is really what he was trying to achieve, it probably would have been a good idea.

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

This may be more difficult and disruptive to fix. The people who moved to Colorado may not want to pick up and move back and new local hires are relying on this job and may be reluctant to move to Washington D.C..

If he rehires all of those that quit, that’s more in DC than in Colorado.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:42:41pm

re: #144 darthstar

That’s gotta be some of the ugliest fucking decor I’ve ever seen.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:43:10pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

This may be more difficult and disruptive to fix. The people who moved to Colorado may not want to pick up and move back and new local hires are relying on this job and may be reluctant to move to Washington D.C..

Much more difficult — but in our wired world, why do they all have to be in one place?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:44:30pm

Central California getting a lot of precipitation, from a “atmospheric river”:

Image: G17-sector-psw-GEOCOLOR-60fr-20210128-1536.gif

Usually we welcome all the rain we can get out here, but so much in a day causes serious flooding concerns, especially in burn areas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:44:56pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s gotta be some of the ugliest fucking decor I’ve ever seen.

but not a peloton or a rolex in sight!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:45:38pm

re: #67 No Malarkey!

Maybe because the Republicans don’t consider what Trump did as “damage”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:46:59pm

re: #162 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Much more difficult — but in our wired world, why do they all have to be in one place?

It almost makes sense to have the BLM out in the middle of the Land that it manages. As I recall, most of it is west of the Mississippi and most of that is west of the Rockies.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:49:09pm

re: #158 steve_davis

yes, it’s been humbling for me to realize just how much better my ira mutual funds are doing than the stuff I actually bought in the brokerage. Of course, if I’d been willing to hold through all of last year, I’d be up substantially, but hind-sight is fantastic that way. At the time I sold (and I sold thankfully on the upswing so I didn’t lose my shirt), I assumed covid might well kill all of us and that trump could very well be reelected. I had no idea that only one of those things would turn out not to be true.

Every once in a while, reporters used to pit the portfolios of fund managers against a dartboard. The dartboard usually won. Although I still stick to (multiple) fund managers, not trusting my skills with a dartboard.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:49:33pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I think we might be saying the same thing in different ways.

Ken Olsen, one of the two founders of Digital Equipment Corporation (and who ultimately killed the company because of bad business decisions regarding the direction of personal computers), died extremely wealthy (he failed up) after being appointed to a new corporate board and a college board in Massachusetts. He became a major contributor to the fascist Christian orgainsation The Fellowship (also known as The Family).

My wife’s Digital stock in which she invested as an employee was rendered worthless of course, and the rest of her money evaporated when the bank which was managing Digital retirement funds somehow caused them to evaporate in the 2007-2008 conservative great recession. The bank is still doing fine, everyone at Digital lost their retirement funds. What we managed to pry out of them nearly a decade later is now sitting in an IRA at our local agricultural bank.

Memories of my cousin Mark who worked for Bell Labs his whole working life, had some rocky times when it was spun off as Lucent, then Carly Fiorina sunk her fangs into the 401K of employees and completely drained everything from those captive accounts that could only hold Lucent stock.

Mark wound up with NO pension or health care from Lucent thanks to vampire Carly. He just had Social Security and Medicare.

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piratedan  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:51:48pm

re: #153 Dangerman

It’s kind of amazeballs that the political party that collectively lost their shit over the image issues of wearing a tan suit, having mustard on a burger or talking on a tarmac are totes okay with a guy who is the ranking House member going to meet with a former office holder who is under impeachment for sedition for planning and inciting the attack on the People’s House.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:52:07pm

re: #139 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Dang. Few years back, one of my students working the Innocence Project was trying to free the girl doing life without parole. There are many, many other cases that are at least as egregious.

Yeah, I usually oppose felony murder, but I feel I would make an exception this time

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:52:12pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

As a retiree who never had a pension but 401(k)s from my employers, I am living comfortably (so far) on the money from my “investments”. I was fortunate to always be able to contribute maximum available to me (and sometimes there was an employer match) and made diversified investments among various mutual funds. Did not pick individual stocks. There are many middle class retirees in similar situations — companies have given up on traditional pension plans and so we went with what was offered. A healthy stock market can be the difference between being able to pay the bills or having to skimp on meals and medications.

And this as a development was probably a win-win. Companies get out of having pension funds they need to keep financed. Employees have greater say over investment options and view of their retirement fund as it develops. And since the 401Ks are generally under the oversight of a financial company there is much less chance that a employer company in desperate financial straits will have the ability to “raid” the funds. (I knew a few people in college whose parents had worked for firms like LTV Steel that essentially looted the pension funds and left a lot of employees and former employees with nothing when thing got tough for the steel industry in the 1970s.)

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Teddy's Person  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:52:35pm

re: #126 nines09

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:53:06pm
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sagehen  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:55:37pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:56:29pm

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And since the 401Ks are generally under the oversight of a financial company there is much less chance that a employer company in desperate financial straits will have the ability to “raid” the funds. (I knew a few people in college whose parents had worked for firms like LTV Steel that essentially looted the pension funds and left a lot of employees and former employees with nothing when thing got tough for the steel industry in the 1970s.)

That was the case with my my mom, dad worked for US Steel and they screwed her out of her widow’s pension. She later found out about a class action suit and received a small settlement and a monthly stipend, but it was a patch on the money back when we needed it when my dad died.

That is also something that greatly shaped my view of the Captains of American Industry.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:57:52pm

re: #91 Charmingly Persistent

Yep. I am worried about this reddit thing not because of hedge funds (fuck’em) but because I am afraid a lot of people will lose money they can’t afford. I’ve seen a lot of posts about ordinary people thinking they are going to make money at the expense of the hedge funds, and some will, but most will lose it all.

I disagree with Amouse - ordinary people are far more likely to become millionaires in the stock market than from the lottery. But that’s by quietly having part of your paycheck sent to your 401k year after year, decade after decade, preferably mostly in index funds. People who think they can jump on this great thing they heard about are almost always doomed.

So the kamikazis I am cheering on. People spending more than mad money on this not so much.

Real key to getting that method going is starting young since the earlier you start the money compounding the better off you are. (Assuming you can get a market that allows index funds or other fairly secure investment strategies to maintain a positive growth rate that outstrips inflation. Which the US stock market has essentially done.)

Of course, that also depends on having a steady job with a company running a decent 401K plan where you are able to put some of that money aside every month. (Any sort of company match certainly helps since you can look at that as a sort of “instant” investment gain on whatever you are putting in.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:58:47pm

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And this as a development was probably a win-win. Companies get out of having pension funds they need to keep financed. Employees have greater say over investment options and view of their retirement fund as it develops. And since the 401Ks are generally under the oversight of a financial company there is much less chance that a employer company in desperate financial straits will have the ability to “raid” the funds. (I knew a few people in college whose parents had worked for firms like LTV Steel that essentially looted the pension funds and left a lot of employees and former employees with nothing when thing got tough for the steel industry in the 1970s.)

None of the funds were invested in company stock so we avoided that potential pitfall. Of course, as it turns out, the company stock, while rocky for awhile, has exploded in value over the years since the firm went public and then got bought out. Most of us were granted stock options; many bought stock at the 15% discount and sold immediately to get the profit. I did the buy and hold — but not the maximum I could purchase. In any case, it was a tidy sum. The company went public after Enron so that was an object lesson to us all not to put too much of our assets into company stock.

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steve_davis  Jan 28, 2021 • 12:59:06pm

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot make sense out of pianos. Cannot make one hand go up while the other goes down. Only bang out chords with one hand and perhaps notes with the other.

Do better on stringed instruments where hands work together to generate notes than where they are wandering off in different directions…

the key may be to simply remember that a piano is a poor man’s band. It’s got bass, it’s got percussion, and then it has a lovely singing voice that is rivaled only by the violin. So playing a piano is a little like learning how play that contraption from Mary Poppins with the drum kick and the various other pieces that all got played by one person.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:00:13pm

I recently did a translation for a company notifying its employees that because of flat interest rates and a flagging stock market, they can no longer guarantee a full return on retirement plan investments and offered them a range of higher-and lower-risk options to choose from…

So basically, just enjoy life and die young…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:01:30pm

re: #178 steve_davis

the key may be to simply remember that a piano is a poor man’s band. It’s got bass, it’s got percussion, and then it has a lovely singing voice that is rivaled only by the violin. So playing a piano is a little like learning how play that contraption from Mary Poppins with the drum kick and the various other pieces that all got played by one person.

I grew up with a piano in the house, have approached it several times since but cannot get past banging out basic stuff like John Lennon songs or the Intro to All the Way from Memphis.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:01:35pm

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was the case with my my mom, dad worked for US Steel and they screwed her out of her widow’s pension. She later found out about a class action suit and received a small settlement and a monthly stipend, but it was a patch on the money back when we needed it when my dad died.

That is also something that greatly shaped my view of the Captains of American Industry.

Yeah, remembering all those Western PA steelmakers who got screwed out of their pensions thanks to Michael Millken junk bonds draining their pension and health insurance funds. The victims wound up with pension guarantees dumped on the PBGC which paid a single cent on the dollar. And as for health care? Medicaid…

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IngisKahn  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:02:06pm

The FAA is screwing with SpaceX today.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:02:16pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention there would probably be a “Texodus” of major companies pulling out of Houston/Dallas/Austin/San Antonio because it makes more sense for them to be U.S. based instead of having to adapt to being in another country.

That’s potentially a lot of money (and a lot of jobs) walking out the door.

See Canada. When Quebec made serious noises about independence, and held a referendum, most of the corporate headquarters quietly moved to Toronto from Montreal.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:18:36pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:19:47pm

They will carry guns in for “protection” against potential threats but not wear masks against a very real one…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:20:51pm

re: #183 Sherlock Hound

See Canada. When Quebec made serious noises about independence, and held a referendum, most of the corporate headquarters quietly moved to Toronto from Montreal.

I will not grace a secession debate with any comment save to say that it is all grandstanding and political posturing.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:21:38pm

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was the case with my my mom, dad worked for US Steel and they screwed her out of her widow’s pension. She later found out about a class action suit and received a small settlement and a monthly stipend, but it was a patch on the money back when we needed it when my dad died.

That is also something that greatly shaped my view of the Captains of American Industry.

Heh. First company I worked IT for was spun-off from USX (US Steel parent corp). The pension I have from that employment has shifted holding company 2-3 times now and I am still trying to get the most recent holder to tell me what the approximate value of it is.

Management from USX that ran that company were the types that would steal your fillings out of your teeth. There was a ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Program) that ran for a few years after the spin-off and that did pay off for a few people when the company was bought by Mitsubishi Holding Corp about a year after I was hired.

Mitsubishi was a “white knight” since the other potential buyer was someone who would have absorbed everything and simply fired the upper management. As it was the upper management couldn’t be bought out for five years, and the payout depended solely on the bottom line of the company. So the company was run for five years aimed solely at maximizing what they would get - which was completely wrong for the long-term health of the company itself.

They get paid and left. Mitsubishi tried to pick up the pieces and finance plant expansions three years behind the curve of when they should have been financed. A few of the smaller divisions were sold off as being marginally profitable* or too risky.
And a few years after that they gave up and sold everything to Sunoco at what I am pretty sure was a loss.

* - As long as one small operation was on a nice feedstock contract it made a small but consistent profit every year. Once they had to renegotiate the contract with USX that profit went away. And “risky” was a small plant that handled coal tar products. A passable market with the stuff, but one railcar leaking in the wrong place would generate an environmental suit that would wipe out a couple of decades of any potential profit at the drop of a hat.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:21:58pm

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will not grace a secession debate with any comment save to say that it is all grandstanding and political posturing.

Like Brexit, and like that, far too many people would think it’s a good idea and the politicians here in Texas would have no idea what it would take for Texas to be independent.

Edited

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:22:59pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:22:59pm

re: #184 Dread Pirate Ron

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Wonder what snarky shit Turley will post when Boebert, Cauthorn or Green pull out a pistol and kill Democrats on the floor of the House…

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:23:16pm

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will carry guns in for “protection” against potential threats but not wear masks against a very real one…

and not a one of them can explain who the potential threats in the chamber are

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:23:44pm

re: #188 Belafon

Like Brexit, and like that, the politicians here in Texas have no idea what it would take for Texas to be independent.

The Republic of Rick

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:24:15pm

re: #191 Dangerman

and not a one of them can explain who the potential threats in the chamber are

the real threats are the ones in all six chambers

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:25:02pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:25:11pm

Governor Beshear has reported 69 Covid deaths today, a new single day record high.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:28:14pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:31:22pm

So Biden the Dictator it is…they have a runner!

Just watch this make its way around the RW Nuttersphere within seconds.

Coming soon to a relative’s Facebook post on your feed…

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:31:51pm

re: #196 Dread Pirate Ron

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So, Republicans finally agree that Trump was a dictator.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:33:59pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

This may be more difficult and disruptive to fix. The people who moved to Colorado may not want to pick up and move back and new local hires are relying on this job and may be reluctant to move to Washington D.C..

if 87% left, the question is how much of that trump and co were able to restaff

my guess is there’s a lot of positions still unfilled

and im all for a more virtual and spread out government - 2021 tech makes it ez

a good chunk of them probably dont need to be anywhere specific

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:35:11pm

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Biden the Dictator it is…they have a runner!

Just watch this make its way around the RW Nuttersphere within seconds.

Coming soon to a relative’s Facebook post on your feed…

they came up with this yesterday or last week
they’re just test driving it today

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:36:44pm
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) announced on Thursday that he’s hired thirteen former Trump administration officials to work in his office, Politico reports.

gop affirmative action - they got nowhere else to go

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:40:07pm

totally sad because now it’s totally necessary to keep the magats out

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:44:45pm

re: #202 Dangerman

totally sad because now it’s totally necessary to keep the magats out

Why we can’t have nice things anymore.
:(

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:45:25pm

re: #202 Dangerman

totally sad because now it’s totally necessary to keep the magats out

Fencing is unsightly. Twelve-pounder Napoleons are “period”.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:45:26pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:45:48pm

re: #201 Dangerman

gop affirmative action - they got nowhere else to go

Does staff get paid by the federal government, or by his own funds?

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:46:11pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:46:32pm

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Fencing is unsightly. Twelve-pounder Napoleons are “period”.

Can they call it “Trump’s Wall”?
(And add the moat with sharks with head-mounted lasers as well?)
///

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:51:28pm

DOW ended up 300 points, a percentage point gain, today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:51:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:56:26pm

re: #182 IngisKahn

The FAA is screwing with SpaceX today.

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Just heard residents of Boca Chica Village (down the road from Spacex launch facility) have been informed they can return to their homes.
So, there absolutely will be no flight of SN9 today

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 1:58:29pm

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Fencing is unsightly. Twelve-pounder Napoleons are “period”.

“l love the smell of grapeshot in the morning.”

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:00:53pm

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Fits with the L’Enfant boulevard design.

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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:01:53pm

re: #191 Dangerman

and not a one of them can explain who the potential threats in the chamber are

Well, they could show the video of Maxine Waters ripping out Michael Tracey’s tongue and shoving it up his ass…

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raistuumum  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:02:44pm
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nines09  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:04:01pm

Talented guy. Nice band. Great song. bbl mebbe

Hugh Laurie - The weed smoker`s dream (Live on the Queen Mary 2013)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:06:58pm

re: #213 jaunte

Fits with the L’Enfant boulevard design.

Might have been in the requirements document.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:09:47pm

r/wallstreetbets:

bigsaucee
45 minutes ago

I’d rather die squeezing the balls of these greedy fucks than ever make a single cent off GME, with that being said; HOLD THE FUCKING LINE 🤲💎
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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:10:19pm

So to all those Capitol rioters being discovered through Facebook, they could have gotten away with it if they had only posted this:

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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:10:49pm

Take my money now.

Pee -wee Park - The Full Horror Trailer

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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:12:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:15:32pm
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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:15:59pm

re: #206 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Does staff get paid by the federal government, or by his own funds?

don’t know
but a tn senator had 13 openings on his staff?

hmm

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:16:50pm

re: #207 jaunte

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better

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:20:56pm

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So Biden the Dictator it is…they have a runner!

Just watch this make its way around the RW Nuttersphere within seconds.

Coming soon to a relative’s Facebook post on your feed…

Biden was going to be a dictator in rightwing world no matter what he did. I’m glad that he’s doing so much good.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:21:44pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I guess #OSHA need to have a check-up as well. I’m sure it’s fully compromised as well. There’s no excuse for this.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:22:35pm

re: #215 raistuumum

President Biden and Congressional Democrats need to get things done - Republicans be damned.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:23:55pm

re: #53 PrairieQueen

That leaves Texas chewing on “the best steak in Texas” all day while they try to attract another country’s tourists to the fucking Alamo.

It’s not just the US the a Free Texas would have to del with: they’ll need a new currency, new civil aeronautics regulations, treaties with other countries; not to mention US corporations whose headquarters are in Texas.

Those whackjobs have no history when it came to the UK sawing their limbs off over a referendum that led to BRexit.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:26:33pm

re: #150 steve_davis

Having an absolute blast playing the piano for the first time in years. Completely humbled by my lack of technical ability doing even simple stuff. Yes, I can go up and down a scale, but annoyingly, my left hand doesn’t always wind up on the right finger, which means either I never actually mastered that process, or I have to relearn what used to be second nature. Also, I’ve decided my new life goal is to play piano like Oscar Peterson. Reading through the transcription of his 1959 Sinatra album while listening to it. Son of a bitch, that guy knew how to use the whole palette of chords, and has a really intriguing soloing style.

Oscar Peterson - The Dick Cavett Show - 1979 - Türkçe Altyazılı

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:26:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:27:03pm

re: #219 BlueSpotinAL

So to all those Capitol rioters being discovered through Facebook, they could have gotten away with it if they had only posted this:

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The UCC and the Rome Statute? We have sign of a sovereign citizen.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:28:54pm

re: #219 BlueSpotinAL

So to all those Capitol rioters being discovered through Facebook, they could have gotten away with it if they had only posted this:

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Or maybe it just means the feds would need subpoenas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:30:10pm

re: #223 Dangerman

don’t know
but a tn senator had 13 openings on his staff?

hmm

House and Senate members are given a stipend from the federal budget to pay staffers. One of the big complaints from wingnuts was Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was going to pay her staffers a living wage for Washington (implying she was somehow getting more money for that).

Representatives and senators can also use their own money to hire staffers.

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sagehen  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:32:48pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

House and Senate members are given a stipend from the federal budget to pay staffers. One of the big complaints from wingnuts was Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was going to pay her staffers a living wage for Washington (implying she was somehow getting more money for that).

Representatives and senators can also use their own money to hire staffers.

AOC didn’t get any more money than any other representative; she just hired fewer staffers so her staff allowance was split among few enough people to make a living wage for each of them.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:32:56pm

re: #225 Patricia Kayden

Biden was going to be a dictator in rightwing world no matter what he did. I’m glad that he’s doing so much good.

I’ve had to deal with one of the “Fascists are Leftists” moron’s squealing about Binden being a senile dictator.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:33:00pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s gotta be some of the ugliest fucking decor I’ve ever seen.

images.app.goo.gl

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:35:37pm

re: #223 Dangerman

don’t know
but a tn senator had 13 openings on his staff?

hmm

For decades Republicans have been shorting the office budget of representatives and senators.

Republicans in state legislatures do the same.

This is by design, as fewer staffers means the legislator cannot get proper briefings or draft legislation, leaving them beholden to lobbyists to write their legislation for them. This benefits outfits like ALEC, but the people not so much.

If someone comes in and says “we should raise the office budget expenditure,” then Republicans and their libertarian allies can shout “big government” and “tax-and-spend Democrats” (precisely the arguments used here when a referendum went on the ballot to raise legislator pay above $12,000 per year).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:38:20pm

re: #228 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not just the US the a Free Texas would have to del with: they’ll need a new currency, new civil aeronautics regulations, treaties with other countries; not to mention US corporations whose headquarters are in Texas.

Those whackjobs have no history when it came to the UK sawing their limbs off over a referendum that led to BRexit.

They would also likely impose either Jim Crow 2.0, sharecropping, or open slavery.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:40:45pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:41:36pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They would also likely impose either Jim Crow 2.0, sharecropping, or open slavery.

And probably attempt to nationalize all the businesses immediately before they have a chance to leave post declaration of independence.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:41:51pm

re: #228 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not just the US the a Free Texas would have to del with: they’ll need a new currency, new civil aeronautics regulations, treaties with other countries; not to mention US corporations whose headquarters are in Texas.

Those whackjobs have no history when it came to the UK sawing their limbs off over a referendum that led to BRexit.

the whole notion is asinine

what they really want is to have all the benefits of being a state in the union but no one “telling us what to do”

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:41:54pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They would also likely impose either Jim Crow 2.0, sharecropping, or open slavery.

A month ago or so I posted my thoughts on what a Nation of Texas would be like. It’s pretty much a mix of Putin’s Russia mixed with 70’s era South Africa. One thing Texas will have to do without are the massive military bases, especially Fort Hood. One would suppose the defense contractors in Texas would put up a huge fight against any real talks of secession as they would potentially be losing huge sales as Texas goes it alone and can no longer support such a massive array of bases.

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aatharuv  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:43:42pm

re: #228 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not just the US the a Free Texas would have to del with: they’ll need a new currency, new civil aeronautics regulations, treaties with other countries; not to mention US corporations whose headquarters are in Texas.

Those whackjobs have no history when it came to the UK sawing their limbs off over a referendum that led to BRexit.

Amongst the biggies.
Joining the UPU (Universal Postal Union), joining the UN, joining the WHO.
Joining USMCA (Oh woops, you mean we have to pay tariffs.)
Joining the WTO. (Ditto).

Now, if you’re a small area of sanity stuck to a country filled with temporarily or not-so-temporarily irrational individuals, or already economically in the whole this might just be worth it. But Texas has a group of nutjobs in a reasonably functioning economy. That will be nothing but pain.

*Okay, Texit nutjobs wouldn’t care about these. But they might be concerned if they could no longer trade with the US or Mexico or deliver packages through the mail, and generally joining the UPU requires joining the UN.

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:44:05pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

House and Senate members are given a stipend from the federal budget to pay staffers. One of the big complaints from wingnuts was Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was going to pay her staffers a living wage for Washington (implying she was somehow getting more money for that).

Representatives and senators can also use their own money to hire staffers.

yeah but how did he have 13 openings worth of work just waiting for Trump ex-staffers

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:45:42pm

Danger: Schadenfreude overdose. Drink responsibly but laugh your ass off.
This is the disgusting “MAGA life coach” who bragged that it gave him a hard-on to harass women and old people who were wearing masks in Walmart.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:48:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:50:18pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:50:52pm

re: #241 Dangerman

the whole notion is asinine

what they really want is to have all the benefits of being a state in the union but no one “telling us what to do”

In other words, this is just another variation on the “conservatism consists of exactly one proposition”* theme. See also the US before the civil war, where slave states always wanted to have everything both ways.

(*)There must be an in group that has legal privileges but no legal obligations and an out group that has legal obligations but no legal rights.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:55:15pm

Someone is going to recognize insurrectionist #145, and likely his jacket too

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:56:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:56:15pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:59:06pm
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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 2:59:34pm

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:00:22pm

re: #252 Patricia Kayden

As far as I know Bed Bath & Beyond still sells pillows…just not his.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:01:46pm

re: #244 Dangerman

yeah but how did he have 13 openings worth of work just waiting for Trump ex-staffers

I can’t say. However, if you’re depending on lobbyists to write and review your legislation (which they’ll happily do for free), then you don’t really need many staffers.

He might also be hiring them out of his own pocket (or a donor’s). Or he might just be lying (as he is a conservative, that is my default assumption).

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EPR-radar  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:03:16pm

re: #252 Patricia Kayden

Anything to deflect from the inconvenient truth that the Jan 6 clown putsch is by far the closest thing in the US to 1930s Germany, and Republicans were the perps for that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:04:13pm

re: #252 Patricia Kayden

There is no victim like a conservative Christian.

Go ahead, Eric. We reserve the right to point and laugh. Plus, the more wingers who stay out of businesses (despite the notorious record of failed conservative boycotts), the likelihood of mask compliance goes up.

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EPR-radar  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:05:01pm

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can’t say. However, if you’re depending on lobbyists to write and review your legislation (which they’ll happily do for free), then you don’t really need many staffers.

He might also be hiring them out of his own pocket (or a donor’s). Or he might just be lying (as he is a conservative, that is my default assumption).

How to spice up a logic 101 class:

All Republicans are liars
Ted Cruz is a Republican
Therefore Ted Cruz is a liar

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:06:11pm

re: #252 Patricia Kayden

LOL

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No Malarkey!  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:07:27pm

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Someone is going to recognize insurrectionist #145, and likely his jacket too

Did they ever figure out who Elizabeth from Knoxville is?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:09:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:14:53pm

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Did they ever figure out who Elizabeth from Knoxville is?

Elizabeth Noch, quite possibly from Bowie, Maryland
kysdc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:15:02pm

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Did they ever figure out who Elizabeth from Knoxville is?

Yes.

“It’s A Revolution” Elizabeth Koch, The Viral Maced US Capitol Rioter From Knoxville, TN Is Actually From Maryland (WKYS radio, Washington, DC)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:15:37pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Nine seconds.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:17:12pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nine seconds.

I think there is a good chance she grew up in Maryland, and now lives in Knoxville.

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Jay C  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:20:47pm

re: #228 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s not just the US the a Free Texas would have to del with: they’ll need a new currency, new civil aeronautics regulations, treaties with other countries; not to mention US corporations whose headquarters are in Texas.

Those whackjobs have no history when it came to the UK sawing their limbs off over a referendum that led to BRexit.

To me, the secession talk always reminds of Fritz Leiber’s classic “A Specter is Haunting Texas”; though probably not quite as droll.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:21:48pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Elizabeth Noch, quite possibly from Bowie, Maryland
kysdc.com

Right after that video showed up, my niece (who lives in Bowie, MD) said “I went to high school with that chix, she’s an asshole and a moron “

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:22:58pm

So, Merle and Milo seem to be getting along…Milo being a puppy has more energy and Merle likes his nap time, but he’s started engaging these wrestling matches on his own and last night’s was a doozy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:24:46pm

(0:30)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:28:29pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:30:05pm

Hangin’ & Bangin’ #34 - Tribute to Tim Bogert

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:31:41pm

Welcome back to Republicans in the minority.

That would be President Biden’s nominee for DHS, Mr. Mayorkas. A cloture vote was successful.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:31:49pm

re: #219 BlueSpotinAL

So to all those Capitol rioters being discovered through Facebook, they could have gotten away with it if they had only posted this:

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Except that’s not a thing. What’s in the TOS is a thing. This is laugh them out of court funny.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:34:50pm
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Orange Impostor  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:36:41pm

Personally, I’d rather see him expelled from the House and arrested for sedition.


Jim Jordan won’t run for Ohio US Senate seat in 2022

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:37:18pm

Here comes the Legaltainment (tm):

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:37:34pm

There may be a huge bonus to the roundup of Capitol rioters.

Most of the collared insurrectionists appear to be either local fatcats or fatcat-adjacent wannabes. Thanks to relative privilege, they are poorly prepared to deal with law enforcement at all, let alone with the kind of tough and persuasive characters the FBI employs. The juice will flow when the FBI puts the squeeze on them. It will take a major task force to process all the information that could come to light on human trafficking, illegal gambling, drug dealing, money laundering, bribery etc. More public officials and yokel law enforcement will be implicated in all this in a gigantic domino fall.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:41:43pm

Two senators break COVID quarantines — one to make an important vote (Omaha World-Herald)

Several senators were put in quarantine this week, after a Republican member of a committee was diagnosed with Covid-19 and attended the meeting in person.

The speaker of the Unicameral refuses to allow meetings by on-line means (though state law does permit members of government bodies to meet via telephone if recognised by that body during the meeting—I participated in a village board meeting while I was in Yukon).

LINCOLN — A day after a nine-member committee of state lawmakers was advised to quarantine due to a COVID-19 exposure, two of the state senators were back at work Wednesday.

State Sen. Tony Vargas of Omaha said he had “no other option” than to attend a socially distanced meeting of the Legislature’s Executive Board so he could participate in a key vote concerning redistricting.

“I felt a responsibility as a legislator and Exec Board member to be there,” said Vargas, who was wearing two layers of facemasks. “I was given no other viable choice.”

Bayard Sen. Steve Erdman said he was advised by Lincoln-Lancaster County health officials that he didn’t need to quarantine if he had the coronavirus within the past three months and had recovered. That also is the advice of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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Erdman is my wingnut state senator. Until this became public, he’d told no one he had Covid-19, though he happily walked around Lincoln and Morrill County meeting and greeting (as a member of the Genocidal Old Party).

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:43:15pm

Trump is again clasped to the bosom of the GOP. Good. He must cling to them like a lamprey until he completes their destined destruction.

Trump is the GOP. The GOP is Trump.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:44:14pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Trump is the GOP. The GOP is Trump.

They are one.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:47:04pm

re: #280 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

They are one.

They are his soil, and he is their final, fatal, flower.

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Jay C  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:47:25pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Welcome back to Republicans in the minority.

That would be President Biden’s nominee for DHS, Mr. Mayorkas. A cloture vote was successful.

Good.
Though I’ve never read anything that might explain the Senate GOPers’ apparent hardon about Mayorkas: it’s never (AFAICT) been clear what their objections are: whether they have some particular beef with him, or whether they’re just being obstructive for obstruction’s sake.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:48:12pm

re: #282 Jay C

They are upset that he wouldn’t promise to uphold Steven Miller’s immigration policies.

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Jay C  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:49:20pm

re: #283 DesertDenizen

They are upset that he wouldn’t promise to uphold Steven Miller’s immigration policies.

Figures.
Fuck them….

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:51:02pm
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has removed dozens of Facebook posts from 2018 and 2019 in which she endorsed fringe conspiracy theories and repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians,” CNN reports.

oh honey its way too late for that to do any good

except as an indication of guilt of something

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:51:07pm

Hey Senator Erdman, tell me who this doctor is, since I’m your constituent, so I can avoid him. (I guarantee you Erdman wouldn’t see a “her” doctor.)

“I am thankful that I had a doctor who had more common sense than Fauci, He treated me, I recovered and I was fine,” the senator said, referring to Dr. Anthony Fauci, a leading adviser to former President Donald Trump on the pandemic.

Erdman was censured in the last legislative session for arguing with Sen. Vargas (who’s father died of Covid-19) on the Unicameral floor that Covid-19 is overblown and should be allowed to sweep through the state for “herd immunity.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:51:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:54:43pm

re: #287 Dread Pirate Ron

Lots of wingnuts in that thread saying “no” to vaccinations to a bunch of people being held without trial, or openly saying they should die.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:56:43pm

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lots of wingnuts in that thread saying “no” to vaccinations to a bunch of people being held without trial, or openly saying they should die.

I’m so old I remember when the White House approved of war crimes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 3:57:58pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:06:07pm
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PrairieQueen  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:06:08pm

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nothing good ever came out of the Cobra Kai dojo.//

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:07:55pm

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sensei dude sure likes his Black/Red/White turnout gear..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:08:33pm

(0:53, the Republican Party thinks she would be a good person to make education policy for children, caution for slurs from Rep. Taylor-Greene)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:13:48pm

Nom nom nom.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:19:08pm

re: #295 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s a real possibility of the Dems losing the House.

Note that the GOP picked up several House seats in the last election.

Including that one district in Iowa that was decided by just a few votes.

This is why I constantly harp of the loss-of-god crisis in America. This is now a Republican campaign point - that the Democrats want to take your God away from you.

And it’s working.

Just because only 25% or so of the population self identify as “evangelical” Christians does not mean they can’t sway just about any election.

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:23:28pm

And now for something a wee bit different…

npr.org

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:23:45pm

Yikes. This fucking terrorist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:27:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:28:25pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:28:42pm

Cicely Tyson died. 96 years old.

RIP. 💔💔💔💔

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:29:08pm
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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:29:46pm

re: #298 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yikes. This fucking terrorist.

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It would be good to know if it was legal semi-auto build (difficult since it’s an open bolt machine gun) or an illegal full auto build. The legal build pops up easily on google - “semi-auto mg-42” so I can’t get too worried about that one. The bombs are more than enough to get him a decade or two at club fed so it’s less than a real problem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:29:48pm

re: #295 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Quick, we need a Democrats in Disarray article. /s

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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:36:09pm

re: #301 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Cicely Tyson died. 96 years old.

RIP. 💔💔💔💔

first time I saw her she was 110 years old. ..jane Pittman

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:37:17pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:40:34pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:41:54pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

They are his soil, and he is their final, fatal, flower.

He’s their corpse flower

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:42:18pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(0:53, the Republican Party thinks she would be a good person to make education policy for children, caution for slurs from Rep. Taylor-Greene)

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Well there it is. “People who run for office have no other skills, they are just criminals.” She is talking about herself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:43:13pm

re: #302 Patricia Kayden

Aside from the obvious reason (voter suppression of people with too much melanin), this will also run afoul of military overseas ballots.

All the time I was in the military GOP policies seemed to suppress military votes as well.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:44:39pm

re: #310 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I hope this is overturned by the courts as blatant voter suppression. Ridiculous.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:45:09pm

re: #307 Patricia Kayden

LOL

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DesertDenizen  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:45:28pm

re: #310 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Isn’t the military higher percentage minority than the general population? If so, that may be deliberate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:46:33pm

re: #311 Patricia Kayden

I hope this is overturned by the courts as blatant voter suppression. Ridiculous.

But it costs money and time as the GOP appeals as far as they can, spending tax money along the way on legal cases so they don’t have to spend it on citizens’ needs.

The shopworn conservative playbook has been obvious all my life.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:46:52pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:48:10pm

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:49:03pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pee-wee’s playhouse?

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:51:05pm

re: #311 Patricia Kayden

I hope this is overturned by the courts as blatant voter suppression. Ridiculous.

The courts (or at least SCOTUS) will be fine with this. Robert’s sole purpose in life is keeping non-whites from voting.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:51:55pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

He probably got it at some 3rd rate shop. That one I believe Goodwill would turn down.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:53:00pm

Alabama is only 15th in the nation for new CV19 cases. Yay!!

Alabama is 48th in the nation for tests/million pop. Oh.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 4:53:16pm

Rep. McClintock needs to talk to Adrian Smith on how to block your telephone from receiving calls from Democrats.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:00:07pm

re: #321 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is the blonde in the video one of DT’s most ardent supporters? If so then she needs to be charged with inciting a riot as DT will be.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:01:01pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can not stand that C U Next Tuesday. A disgusting subhuman rodent.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:03:42pm

re: #322 PhillyPretzel

Is the blonde in the video one of DT’s most ardent supporters? If so then she needs to be charged with inciting a riot as DT will be.

That’s the infamous new Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:04:10pm

How Did Sideshow Bob Get On Alaska’s Human Rights Commission? (Wonkette)

TL;DR version: Assembly member Jamie Allard, brave defender of free speech, addressed the outrage over two trucks in Alaska, one with the plate “Fuhrer” and one “3Reich”—Allard thinks this is all political correctness run amok.

Allard was until Tuesday a member of the Alaska Human Rights Commission.

We’re especially charmed by Allard’s poker-faced insistence that, were it not for “progressives,” Führer and Reich would be completely without negative connotations. History, as noted anti-Semite Henry Ford said, is bunk.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:04:53pm

re: #324 Hecuba’s daughter

She is a disgrace to her name.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:06:39pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:12:24pm

OMFG

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:13:15pm

re: #327 Dread Pirate Ron

Senator Moscow Trip wants what?

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PrairieQueen  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:14:27pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:16:02pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:17:16pm

re: #331 Dave In Austin

That desk looks out of place. Hmm. Can we get him one of those TV dinner tables?

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Jack Burton  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:17:26pm

re: #302 Patricia Kayden

Dems need to nuke the filibuster to pass the FTPA if they have to.

Fixed Term Parliament Act? All elected offices in the US have fixed terms already. Or is this an acronym of something I can’t find.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:18:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:21:41pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMFG

That was going around the fever swamps of the right-wing farm league blogs at the time of the Camp Fire.

That claim itself is a repeatedly-recycled right-wing claim.

The images are actually the same ones that were shared on Twitter in November 2018 by Michael Coudrey, a conservative social media voice whose old Twitter account used the name “Mike Tokes.”

(includes link to Web Archive with Mr. Coudrey’s tweet)

The images shared by him are a mishmash of numerous fires, showing streaks in photographs that if you look at the photos sideways after drinking a lot of gin, you might see them as maybe some sort of laser.

Meme Recycles Conspiracy Theory on California Wildfires (FactCheck dot Org, August 26, 2020)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:22:17pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMFG

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Jack Burton  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:22:50pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMFG

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Yep and it involved “The Jews” too. I think she literally thinks the Death Star of David is an actual thing…

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:23:47pm

re: #334 Dread Pirate Ron

I did Yosemite a few years back and we stayed in Wawona. Such a lovely area and the sequoias are something spectacular. What a shame a bunch of them came down. Thankfully, no one was hurt.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:23:56pm

re: #336 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I am half afraid to ask what state voted for that blonde?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:24:30pm

re: #339 PhillyPretzel

I am half afraid to ask what state voted for that blonde?

Georgia.

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Jack Burton  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:25:10pm

“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views.”

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:25:18pm

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The images shared by him are a mishmash of numerous fires, showing streaks in photographs that if you look at the photos sideways after drinking a lot of gin, you might see them as maybe some sort of laser.

So in other words, nothing really out of the ordinary for a seasoned conspiracy theorist.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:25:30pm

re: #340 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Didn’t Georgia also vote for Ossoff and Warnock?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:26:25pm

re: #343 PhillyPretzel

Didn’t Georgia also vote for Ossoff and Warnock?

The very same. Apparently, though the state itself is shaded light blue, there are still some very red, very STUPID areas of the state.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:26:54pm

re: #344 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Yes. I agree.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:27:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:29:02pm

re: #332 PhillyPretzel

That desk looks out of place. Hmm. Can we get him one of those TV dinner tables?

and it is much too big.

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plansbandc  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:30:58pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

JESUS H. CHRIST.

Get her the fuck out of congress. NOW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:32:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:34:25pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:35:19pm

re: #337 Jack Burton

Yep and it involved “The Jews” too. I think she literally thinks the Death Star of David is an actual thing…

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All’s. I can think is “Jews in Space!”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:35:43pm

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Jay C  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:35:53pm

re: #343 PhillyPretzel

Didn’t Georgia also vote for Ossoff and Warnock?

Yeah, but on a statewide basis: Greene represents the 14th District: basically the NW corner of Georgia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:36:12pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:36:30pm

re: #351 Dave In Austin

All’s. I can think is “Jews in Space!”

Jews in Space (Mel Brooks)

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austin_blue  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:38:40pm

re: #338 lawhawk

I did Yosemite a few years back and we stayed in Wawona. Such a lovely area and the sequoias are something spectacular. What a shame a bunch of them came down. Thankfully, no one was hurt.

I, also, have stayed at the Wowona Lodge. My favorite bit was walking out for an early smoke and having deer walk up to me and check my jacket pockets for food.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:38:52pm

re: #351 Dave In Austin

All’s. I can think is “Jews in Space!”

Spaceballs

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:39:30pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMFG

Created by Juice.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:41:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:41:54pm

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Human rights commission? WTH? I guess that’s as ridiculous as Clarence Thomas heading up the EEOC.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:42:49pm

Tell McCarthy to stay away from the pool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:43:57pm
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austin_blue  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:45:00pm

re: #353 Jay C

Yeah, but on a statewide basis: Greene represents the 14th District: basically the NW corner of Georgia.

Which is where a big chunk of the Cherokee nation lived before Andrew Jackson sent them on a Bataan Death March to Oklahoma. Poor, reactionary Protestant Scots-Irish moved in.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:46:18pm

re: #361 jaunte

Tell McCarthy to stay away from the pool.

And upper floor windows. And tea.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:46:39pm

Kinda don’t care very much about the Miley Cyrus Tiny Desk. Sorry not sorry.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:47:47pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is very sad. RIP Ms Tyson.
Also Cloris Leachman passed. RIP Ms Leachman.
search.yahoo.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:47:49pm

re: #333 Jack Burton

Not sure. I thought he was referring to the voting rights act.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:48:01pm

re: #356 austin_blue

I, also, have stayed at the Wowona Lodge. My favorite bit was walking out for an early smoke and having deer walk up to me and check my jacket pockets for food.

We were there and enjoyed the frogs at the pond croaking, but we never could spot them because when we’d get close, they’d stop. It was a running joke for us…

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:49:17pm

re: #365 Charles Johnson

Kinda don’t care very much about the Miley Cyrus Tiny Desk. Sorry not sorry.

I liked the Mazzy Star cover.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:49:40pm

Via the Lincoln (Nebr.) Journal-Star, oh those wacky Catholics. If you’re a Catholic, watch out for this guy coming to a diocese near you.

Wisconsin priest conducted election-related exorcisms; now leaving post

A conservative Madison priest and blogger has left the Madison Catholic Diocese after performing live-streamed exorcisms aimed at rooting out what he, former President Donald Trump and other Trump supporters have falsely claimed was widespread fraud in the Nov. 3 presidential election.

Rev. John Zuhlsdorf also claimed he had permission to conduct the exorcisms from Madison Catholic Diocese Bishop Donald Hying — an assertion Hying has said is false as well. The exorcisms have since been removed from YouTube. The National Catholic Reporter earlier reported on Zuhlsdorf’s departure.

In a statement Jan. 14, the diocese said it and Zuhlsdorf had reached “a mutual decision” for Zuhlsdorf to leave.

“The Reverend Zuhlsdorf, who is in good canonical standing, will relocate from the Diocese of Madison to pursue other opportunities,” the statement said. “The Bishop of Madison is grateful to the Reverend Zuhlsdorf for his faithful support of the diocese’s seminarians and priests, thanks him for his many years of steadfast ministry serving the diocese, and wishes him the best in his future endeavors.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:50:48pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:51:26pm

Precious

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:52:05pm

re: #372 Dave In Austin

Precious

bless his heart

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:52:10pm
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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:53:19pm

re: #371 Dread Pirate Ron

Or be DC media where they’re wondering why Biden can’t reach across aisle to get bipartisan support. /fuck the media that continues to magic balance fairy despite fact that only one party has been obstructionist for the past decade and refused to lift a finger on covid19 response without kicking and screaming.

The GOP benefit from media coverage that defers to GOP at every opportunity when it’s the GOP obstructing.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:55:12pm

re: #372 Dave In Austin

Yes!! Only Week 1 and he’s accomplished so much already. I can breathe again!! Every time I see President Biden, I smile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:55:16pm
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Jack Burton  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:56:13pm

re: #372 Dave In Austin

Precious

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Yeah the first week in the past few years where I only aged a week instead of a month.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:56:19pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spaceballs

“Fuck… even in the future, nothing works!”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:57:27pm

re: #376 Patricia Kayden

Me too. Go Joe. :)

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:57:47pm

re: #371 Dread Pirate Ron

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Ah, 2009 all over again. “Why won’t Democrats work with us on cutting taxes for the people who haven’t lost any money in this economic crisis while leaving the people who have to rot for not being rich enough to weather said crisis?!”

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electrotek  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:58:07pm

Did anybody catch this? Singaporean authorities were successful in foiling a plot of another Christchurch-style massacre of two mosques in the city-state. And the suspect is 16! And he was self-radicalised via the Internet, and people still want to pretend that right-wing extremism doesn’t exist even after January 6th

Singapore Teen Arrested for ‘Christchurch-Inspired Plan’ To Attack Mosques

The teenager, who comes from a Protestant family and has not been named due to his age, was said to have been heavily influenced by Australian white supremacist Brenton Tarrant, who opened fire at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand last year and gunned down worshippers, killing 51 people in a shooting rampage that shocked the world.

The boy had planned to carry out multiple attacks on two mosques near the border with Malaysia on the Mar. 15 anniversary of the 2019 Christchurch attacks, according to Singapore government statements and media reports. In preparation, he ordered a tactical vest and shopped for a machete online.

“He watched live-streamed videos of the terrorist attack on the two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and also read manifestos of Christchurch attacker, Brenton Tarrant,” Singapore’s Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) said in a public statement released on Wednesday following the arrest.

“He was self-radicalized and motivated by a strong antipathy towards Islam and a fascination with violence.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:58:12pm

heh

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 28, 2021 • 5:59:24pm

What a degenerate sicko.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:00:53pm

re: #336 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:04:38pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:05:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:06:16pm

re: #372 Dave In Austin

Precious

Cry harder, Jack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:06:33pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:09:41pm

re: #384 (((Archangel1)))

What a degenerate sicko.

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She was jealous that Marjorie Greene was getting all the press for harassing David Hogg and so she decided to join in to get more coverage.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:12:07pm
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Dangerman  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:17:43pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 28, 2021 • 6:23:36pm

re: #254 darthstar

As far as I know Bed Bath & Beyond still sells pillows…just not his.

Yep and Target told Mikey to Go Fuck Him Self!

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austin_blue  Jan 28, 2021 • 7:13:46pm

re: #368 lawhawk

We were there and enjoyed the frogs at the pond croaking, but we never could spot them because when we’d get close, they’d stop. It was a running joke for us…

I loved the entire thing. The drive down into King’s Canyon to the Sequoia Grove, walking around the General Grant, and just laying on my back and looking UP.

Pretty cool.

And then the drive back through the valley to Castle AFB, where I had more upgrade classes on Monday.

I went to either SF or Yosemite whenever I could. Yosemite was like going to church.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 28, 2021 • 7:38:18pm

re: #393 Dangerman

Let’s unify with people who want to KILL YOU.


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