John Hiatt and Jerry Douglas Go Electric: “Long Black Electric Cadillac”

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Directed by Lagan Sebert & Ted Roach
Produced by Magic Seed Productions
Edited by Ted Roach

LYRICS:
I got a long black electric Cadillac
She run a thousand miles on a jump (x2)
I’m runnin’ subterranean air conditioning
And full electron photo array in my trunk

And when I’m headin’ out west just to see ya
Only have to stop twice along the way (x2)
Once to get my groceries
And once to charge up my engine bay

I been running artificial intelligence
Ever since I was a little boy (x2)
I been hacked to bits and pieces
But they couldn’t touch my pride and joy

I got a big black electric Cadillac
I can drive from the back to right up front (x2)
Electric fireplace sitting on the dashboard
Can warm your heart anyway you want

Was talkin’ to elected official
He was saying something so obscene (x2)
Had to run it on down to Jackson
Just to keep my motor clean
(That’s what I had to do)

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209 comments
1
🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:19:36am

Another reason the shut the TV off on Sunday Mornings.

2
No Malarkey!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:21:18am

CL’d. The Right is now justifying going fascist.

3
The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:22:51am

People are just fucking stupid:

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:25:20am

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

People are just fucking stupid:

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Well at least they didn’t sell a UV lamp to stick…OR DID THEY???????

5
darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:26:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:35:51am
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lizardofid  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:36:31am

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

People are just fucking stupid:

“With the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said “You might not believe this, little fella
But it’ll cure your asthma too”

8
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:36:59am
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:39:40am
10
O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:44:00am

We had a discussion, I think it was yesterday or Friday night, on the right wing freakout about ZOMG JOE IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR FOURTH OF JULY BBQ

As always, it’s horseshit.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:45:58am

re: #10 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Thanks Dale. And please continue the good work.

12
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:48:02am

Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing (Flint Journal)

FLINT, MI - A woman at the center of a bellwether Flint water crisis lawsuit was one of two women who were shot to death inside a townhouse earlier this week.

Sasha Avonna Bell was one of the first of a growing number of people to file a lawsuit in connection to the Flint water crisis after she claimed that her child had been lead poisoned.

Bell was found dead April 19 in the 2600 block of Ridgecrest Drive at the Ridgecrest Village Townhouses. Sacorya Renee Reed was also found shot to death in the home.

(more)

A child was found in the home unhurt.

Man charged in double homicice at apartment where child was found uninjured (Flint Journal)

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A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:48:24am

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

MMS. JFC, I had thought this shit was done by now.

When my son was first diagnosed with a “pervasive developmental disorder” at age 4 (later it was changed to Asperger Syndrome and now is considered to be autism spectrum disorder) I began researching exactly what we were dealing with. When he was in 4th grade an online mom group I had joined had members that started pushing this dangerous toxic shit. People were posting photos of “toxic waste” coming out of their bodies after MMS treatment. I’m no doctor, but those photos were of intestinal linings shed from damage. Most of the kids being treated this way were also non verbal. I was horrified and reported the group to the host site and nothing was done. I left online mommy groups after that. I hope these assholes in Bradenton go to jail for the damage they are doing to families.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:48:50am

I watched this 5 times already! I am going to watch it for the rest of the day.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 10:57:31am

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

I liked the way RBG was included. That makes me feel good.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:00:33am

re: #10 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

We had a discussion, I think it was yesterday or Friday night, on the right wing freakout about ZOMG JOE IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR FOURTH OF JULY BBQ

As always, it’s horseshit.

Plus, the study the Daily Mail cited for their bullshyte claim was published January 13, 2020. Donald Trump was still President.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:03:30am

An Arizona judge has halted the bullshyte audit of Maricopa County’s ballots.

Arizona judge suspends Republican vote ‘audit’ being conducted by Cyber Ninjas, a Florida company led by a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist (Yahoo!)

18
jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:04:11am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:11:24am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus, the study the Daily Mail cited for their bullshyte claim was published January 13, 2020. Donald Trump was still President.

In the meantime, later in said presidency, hamburger sales were briefly interrupted at some restaurants due to COVID disruptions to shipping.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:11:55am

re: #10 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Conservatives are going to have to quintuple their beef intake.

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:12:55am

Good timezone everyone.
How go things?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:14:36am

re: #18 jaunte

“…Routed through the tax code and smuggled into the language of our common sense, the color line lives on in the form of the taxpayer citizen, preyed upon by the untaxed others.”

The Middle Class pays taxes. The working class pays less, but as a percentage, still a lot more than the upper classes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:14:47am

re: #21 Varek Raith

Good timezone everyone.
How go things?

I live in Mythical Time Zone, so I don’t really know.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:15:28am

re: #21 Varek Raith

Good timezone everyone.
How go things?

Giphy

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:16:01am

re: #21 Varek Raith

Working on a whittling commission today. My granddaughter wants a unicorn-shaped magic wand.

26
darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:16:19am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:18:35am
A handful of Texas Republican district or county conventions in March passed resolutions calling for a vote on secession, paving the way for a potentially awkward debate at the state GOP conference in May.

A Nederland-based pro-independence activist group, the Texas Nationalist Movement, said at least 22 of the hundreds of conventions passed secession items. Texas GOP chairman Tom Mechler said he “would be very surprised” if that many had indeed passed the conventions.

(more at the Houston Chronicle)

In Texas, some local GOPs call for statewide vote on secession

Give us back our crap then.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:19:01am

It is a good thing I have unknown calls on my cell phone blocked. I just got 3 calls from the same number in less than a minute. Needless to say this number is blocked.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:22:57am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more at the Houston Chronicle)

In Texas, some local GOPs call for statewide vote on secession

Give us back our crap then.

Fine. Leave. No more Cornholio, Cruz, Gohmert, Crenshaw but Patrick still owes 3 million to Fetterman!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:29:47am

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Fine. Leave. No more Cornholio, Cruz, Gohmert, Crenshaw but Patrick still owes 3 million to Fetterman!

Customs houses on Interstate 10. We don’t want any “illegal” Texas immigrants sneaking across the borders.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:30:44am

re: #28 PhillyPretzel

It is a good thing I have unknown calls on my cell phone blocked. I just got 3 calls from the same number in less than a minute. Needless to say this number is blocked.

That was me. /s

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:31:27am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They should ask the UK how well Brexit is working for them.

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Varek Raith  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:33:07am

re: #32 Romantic Heretic

They should ask the UK how well Brexit is working for them.

34
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:37:52am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:38:24am

That’s a lot of drugs.

Sarpy County drug drop-off collects more than 400 pounds of unused meds (Omaha World-Herald)

The Sarpy County Sheriff says that is a typical amount. Two previous collections also collected more than four hundred pounds of prescription medications.

According to the article, they are turned over to the Drug Enforcement Agency for incineration.

When I asked about turning in my unused Oxycontin from my hand surgery, I was told “we don’t do that here.” It was suggested I put water in the bottle to dissolve the tablets, then throw it away.

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lizardofid  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:40:06am

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Fine. Leave. No more Cornholio, Cruz, Gohmert, Crenshaw but Patrick still owes 3 million to Fetterman!

As a matter of fact, I would very much enjoy seeing all of the above pressed into taking a position on secession. I expect you’d easier grab a hand full of water.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:45:08am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s a lot of drugs.

Sarpy County drug drop-off collects more than 400 pounds of unused meds (Omaha World-Herald)

The Sarpy County Sheriff says that is a typical amount. Two previous collections also collected more than four hundred pounds of prescription medications.

According to the article, they are turned over to the Drug Enforcement Agency for incineration.

When I asked about turning in my unused Oxycontin from my hand surgery, I was told “we don’t do that here.” It was suggested I put water in the bottle to dissolve the tablets, then throw it away.

Wouldn’t you also need to be careful where and how you disposed of the water with the dissolved drug in it? (e.g. sewers where I used to live in Philly ran directly into a nearby river.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:49:39am

re: #37 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wouldn’t you also need to be careful where and how you disposed of the water with the dissolved drug in it? (e.g. sewers where I used to live in Philly ran directly into a nearby river.)

Well, throwing it away here would be into the Dumpster behind my house, which the waste company would empty and cart off somewhere else (presumably not having run-off into a stream).

That said, it seems to me that liquefied Oxycontin would still be the same drug if someone came across the bottle. Putting water in it and throwing it away doesn’t seem like much of a solution (well, that would be a solution, but not the solution of preventing misuse of a medication).

39
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:53:43am

Why is this man still relevant?

Newt Gingrich’s Heart Breaks For ‘People Of Traditional Values’ Traumatized By Pride Flags (Wonkette)

Gingrich was railing about Democrats alienating “regular Americans” over things like gun regulations or LGBT flags on Jeannie Pirro’s show.

40
Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:55:14am
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danarchy  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:57:00am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Is it really a stray cat or just a neighbors cat who stops by for second dinner?

42
Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:57:55am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Scrambled probably would have worked better.

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Dangerman  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:58:12am

as regards to this all over the end of downstairs:

how many of them do you think followed the trial and the actual evidence admitted?
in other words would have at least a somewhat informed opinion on the verdict.

i’d say less than 5-10%.

most of them likely don’t know much more than cop/white cop and black man dead and that’s why it polls this way.

it’s name/situation/news story recognition not ‘the jurors upheld their oath and came to the correct verdict”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:58:14am

re: #41 danarchy

Is it really a stray cat or just a neighbors cat who stops by for second dinner?

When I was a teenager, our cat Io had a protection racket he ran around the whole town. He would hit up just about every house for a treat of something.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:59:04am

re: #43 Dangerman

as regards to this all over the end of downstairs:

how many of them do you think followed the trial and the actual evidence admitted?
in other words would have at least a somewhat informed opinion on the verdict.

i’d say less than 5-10%.

most of them likely don’t know much more than cop/white cop and black man dead and that’s why it polls this way.

it’s name/situation/news story recognition not ‘the jurors upheld their oath and came to the correct verdict”

Or, they were told what to think by the Right Wing Bullshyte Industrial Complex.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:59:31am

re: #42 Belafon

Scrambled probably would have worked better.

Scrambled with tuna.
Hold the egg.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 25, 2021 • 11:59:39am

re: #41 danarchy

Is it really a stray cat or just a neighbors cat who stops by for second dinner?

I’ve gotten the impression that for many cats the best food is someone else’s food.

When I still had three cats with their own separate dishes (4’ apart for two of them) I noted that the eating habits pretty much universally was to take a few bites of their own food and at first chance check out everyone else’s dishes to see their “better food”. Which made special diet stuff for Chat Noir difficult at times since he’d go and sneak the chow he wasn’t supposed to eat from the other cats’ dishes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:01:11pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I live in Mythical Time Zone, so I don’t really know.

Now I know.

It’s way past my bedtime. The birds are chirping, the sun is up, and for some reason I’m still awake.

I’ll catch y’all another time.

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Dangerman  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:01:20pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or, they were told what to think by the Right Wing Bullshyte Industrial Complex.

Ok i misused the word “news”

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calochortus  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:20:09pm

re: #10 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

We had a discussion, I think it was yesterday or Friday night, on the right wing freakout about ZOMG JOE IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR FOURTH OF JULY BBQ

As always, it’s horseshit.

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Is it wrong that my first thought was “grilled Brussels sprouts in July”???? Yes, you can buy them year round, but why not get them when they’re good? How about corn, or peaches or something moderately seasonal on your grill?
Then of course, I moved on to contemplating the horror of plant-based beer.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:23:17pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, throwing it away here would be into the Dumpster behind my house, which the waste company would empty and cart off somewhere else (presumably not having run-off into a stream).

That said, it seems to me that liquefied Oxycontin would still be the same drug if someone came across the bottle. Putting water in it and throwing it away doesn’t seem like much of a solution (well, that would be a solution, but not the solution of preventing misuse of a medication).

Create a slurry using water and either cat litter or coffee grounds in a ziplok baggie, then stir in the crushed meds. Roll the bag up and run duct tape around it a few times, then dispose.

That’s the way we dispose of the occasional dropped/contaminated pill at work.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:26:13pm

re: #7 lizardofid

“With the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said “You might not believe this, little fella
But it’ll cure your asthma too”

Look here, brother…

53
PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:28:01pm

re: #7 lizardofid

re: #52 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

This stuff works too.
amazon.com

54
teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:32:49pm

…

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:34:04pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Do these morons think they’d get to keep all 15 US military bases, plus the PANTEX nuclear weapons plant, not to mention all the other shit I have no idea about?

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steve_davis  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:35:56pm

Lady Paw Paw puts in a sort of appearance.

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[deleted]  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:38:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:38:48pm

Oops, sorry, didn’t mean to post that link.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:39:26pm
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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:46:02pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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Dale thought his job would become easier, because all he would have to do is report on Biden. But nope.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:46:34pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more at the Houston Chronicle)

In Texas, some local GOPs call for statewide vote on secession

Give us back our crap then.

I’d love it if Texas seceded. The Republican Party would be toast without all those electoral college votes.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:48:14pm

re: #43 Dangerman

I’m more worried about the 10% of Democrats who think it was the wrong verdict. WTH?!!!

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ipsos  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:54:37pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

I’m more worried about the 10% of Democrats who think it was the wrong verdict. WTH?!!!

Joe Manchin’s family?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2021 • 12:56:41pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

I’m more worried about the 10% of Democrats who think it was the wrong verdict. WTH?!!!

Maybe some of them thought the charge should have been 1st degree with life without parole as the sentence.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:01:00pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

I’m more worried about the 10% of Democrats who think it was the wrong verdict. WTH?!!!

It’s troubling, but they don’t make up half of the party, and they’re not in control.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:04:27pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:06:45pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:07:38pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate Ron

I rather get my recipes from these people.
cooksillustrated.com

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:12:23pm
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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:15:40pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more at the Houston Chronicle)

In Texas, some local GOPs call for statewide vote on secession

Give us back our crap then.

Yeah, like, how does that work, assuming TX can legally leave the US like they’re cancelling a Disney Plus subscription?

I mean, I can easily see these asshats going “Well, gosh, all of this military hardware that’s now within our independent borders must be ours, then” or some bullshit like that.

Also, you’d think that the recent weather-induced grid failure would convince even the most fanatical of secessionists that maybe Texas is incapable of keeping infrastructure running on its own without outside help.

I really wonder with these fucking idiots if it’s simply a matter of “Well, we own all the oils, so we’ll bring the US to its knees within hours of leaving.”

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:16:06pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Cat’s I’ve had would have loved raw egg as much as the tuna.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:17:18pm

In other news, I learned how to play “Jet Airliner” by Steve Miller this weekend, so… yay?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:18:51pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:19:11pm

re: #70 Mattand

Yeah, like, how does that work, assuming TX can legally leave the US like they’re cancelling a Disney Plus subscription?

I mean, I can easily see these asshats going “Well, gosh, all of this military hardware that’s now within our independent borders must be ours, then” or some bullshit like that.

Also, you’d think that the recent weather-induced grid failure would convince even the most fanatical of secessionists that maybe Texas is incapable of keeping infrastructure running on its own without outside help.

I really wonder with these fucking idiots if it’s simply a matter of “Well, we own all the oils, so we’ll bring the US to its knees within hours of leaving.”

That’s basically pretty accurate. Also, it’s important to realize that the asshats who are pro-secession are also the idjits who think it’s the fault of “evil renewable energy” that the disaster occurred, and they’re planning on replacing all that stupid green stuff with good old-fashioned coal and gas as soon as they’re free of the federal government. Remember: The actual facts don’t penetrate their thick skulls.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:27:39pm

re: #72 Mattand

Fun Fact: That song was written by a blind guy named Paul Pena. He was the subject of a documentary called “Genghis Blues”.

He spent his time listening to shortwave radio and came across a broadcast of Tuvan throat singing music. He learned to translate the Tuvan language into Russian and from that into English Braille.

He taught himself how to perform throat singing and eventually travelled to the Mongolian lands of Tuva and became a bit of a local celebrity due to his throat-singing technique.

GENGHIS BLUES (OFFICIAL TRAILER)

related but unrelated:

Tuvan Throat Singing

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:29:51pm

If I were a bunch of surrounding conservative states, I would be trying to keep Texas from leaving. Not only for the 38 House reps, but Texas has the second largest block of Democrats. If we flee the state, were going to change voting results where ever we go.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:31:19pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

girl rides a gator cart, 1910

I’ve heard of green energy, but this is ridiculous.

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOTHING.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:31:58pm

re: #75 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Fun Fact: That song was written by a blind guy named Paul Pena. He was the subject of a documentary called “Genghis Blues”.

He spent his time listening to shortwave radio and came across a broadcast of Tuvan throat singing music. He learned to translate the Tuvan language into Russian and from that into English Braille.

He taught himself how to perform throat singing and eventually travelled to the Mongolian lands of Tuva and became a bit of a local celebrity due to his throat-singing technique.

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Wow, that is amazing. I had never heard of this before. Thank you for posting this.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:44:27pm

re: #43 Dangerman

46 percent of Republicans think the Derek Chauvin guilty verdict is wrong

But only 30% of Americans are Republican, so there’s that.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:44:50pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

ANZAC Day

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Ah, good to see this remembered.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:47:50pm

Ok, links to instagram don’t work.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:48:25pm

re: #78 Mattand

This is one of his throat-singing songs

Kargyraa Moan

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John Hughes  Apr 25, 2021 • 1:55:10pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When I asked about turning in my unused Oxycontin from my hand surgery, I was told “we don’t do that here.” It was suggested I put water in the bottle to dissolve the tablets, then throw it away.

Every pharmacy in France accepts unused medicine for safe disposal, you are not supposed to throw meds in the trash, not even non-prescription stuff like paracetamol.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:07:48pm

re: #76 Belafon

If I were a bunch of surrounding conservative states, I would be trying to keep Texas from leaving. Not only for the 38 House reps, but Texas has the second largest block of Democrats. If we flee the state, were going to change voting results where ever we go.

On the other hand millions of evangelicals will flock to an Independent Jesus Texas and get the fuck out of the US!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:14:29pm

Wow that is some waxed floor.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:16:46pm

re: #70 Mattand

Yeah, like, how does that work, assuming TX can legally leave the US like they’re cancelling a Disney Plus subscription?

I mean, I can easily see these asshats going “Well, gosh, all of this military hardware that’s now within our independent borders must be ours, then” or some bullshit like that.

Also, you’d think that the recent weather-induced grid failure would convince even the most fanatical of secessionists that maybe Texas is incapable of keeping infrastructure running on its own without outside help.

I really wonder with these fucking idiots if it’s simply a matter of “Well, we own all the oils, so we’ll bring the US to its knees within hours of leaving.”

I met a Tex-publican who did not know that there were oil wells in California. He thought the communist eco-wackies would long since have shut them down if there ever had been.

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mmmirele  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:25:22pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

People are just fucking stupid:

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This has been going on for WAY TOO LONG. Seriously, this particular scam has been all over the world. Fiona O’Leary, mother of autistic children, busted these a bunch of these MMS scamsters who were pitching this poison as a treatment for autism in Ireland.

dailydot.com

More recently, Americans (not the Grenons) were pushing this crap in Uganda.

theguardian.com

It’s not merely drinking this industrial bleach, it is also giving themselves MMS enemas to cure things like Lyme disease and autism.

Shutting down the Grenons (who had a tenuous connection to Trump and who may have been the source of that CRAZY press conference last year with the bleach which propelled Sarah Conner to fame) is only the beginning of this crap. The world needs to get together and get rid of this scourge. It makes me cry to think that parents are thinking that feeding their autistic kids bleach or giving them bleach enemas is going to cure them, especially since so many autistic kids are non-verbal or have limited verbal skills and can’t tell their parents to STOP IT! /sorry not sorry for the rant.

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Dizzy  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:25:58pm

For VB:

Hollywoods greatest moments (in Yiddish)

YouTube

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:31:13pm
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darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:35:45pm

re: #86 The Pie Overlord!

Wow that is some waxed floor.

I thought he was going to light a fire.

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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:37:08pm

Cats and Ping Pong Trick Shots

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:50:56pm

re: #89 Dizzy

For VB:

Hollywoods greatest moments (in Yiddish)

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Video

This is Hollywood’s Greatest Moment in Yiddish

Blazing Saddles Schvartze Clip

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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:52:19pm

Feel free to pass this on to all your Texas friends:

A Message from Alaskans on Wind Power

A Message from Alaskans on Wind Power

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:53:01pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

ANZAC Day

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There’s a brilliant song by Aussie band Weddings Parties Anything called “Scorn of the Women” from the point of view of a man whose poor eyesight kept him from serving. Unfortunately, they seem to not let much of their studio catalogue on youtube, and the live version from their retirement video sucks (they seem drunk and out of tune in their harmonies—can’t recommend).

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 25, 2021 • 2:54:07pm
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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:01:00pm

Gretchen Carlson was on Finding Your Roots. I went to go look her look up, and found this:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:01:11pm

re: #94 Cheechako

And Solar also works in the cold. The wires are cold and that makes them a little more efficient.

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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:17:44pm

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

And Solar also works in the cold. The wires are cold and that makes them a little more efficient.

Solar is very efficient in the summer with over 15 hours per day of sunlight. Not very well in the winter with less than 5 hours of sunlight per day. And that winter sunlight comes from a sun that is barely over the horizon.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:18:53pm

re: #99 Cheechako

That is why Alaska is on wind power.

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EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:21:04pm

re: #99 Cheechako

Solar is very efficient in the summer with over 15 hours per day of sunlight. Not very well in the winter with less than 5 hours of sunlight per day. And that winter sunlight comes from a sun that is barely over the horizon.

Efficiency is power delivered/available power. So it is perfectly possible for solar cells and wires to be more efficient in winter, but deliver less power because less power is available. Almost all electronic devices get slightly more efficient as temperature goes down.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:21:14pm

Released today:

Perseverance Rover’s Mastcam-Z Captures Ingenuity’s Third Flight

(Someone really needs to steal this and add Marvin chasing it.)

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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:23:04pm

re: #100 PhillyPretzel

That is why Alaska is on wind power.

There some solar panels and a few wind power generators in town but for us it’s hydro power. We’re 100% hydro power from 4 hydro plants in the area.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:25:02pm

re: #103 Cheechako

If I recall correctly you are in the southern part of the state and the water is not always frozen so that makes sense.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:25:47pm

re: #103 Cheechako

There some solar panels and a few wind power generators in town but for us it’s hydro power. We’re 100% hydro power from 4 hydro plants in the area.

Do they have the same level of trouble with fish spawning up there as has lead to dam removals in Washington & Oregon?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:27:13pm

re: #105 William Lewis

Don’t they have fish ladders? Some areas have used them with great success.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:27:26pm

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:35:11pm

re: #106 PhillyPretzel

Don’t they have fish ladders? Some areas have used them with great success.

Not all species (especially in the salmon family) do well at going up the ladders and also the impoundment behind the dam collects sediments that should have flowed downstream to the sea drastically changing the ecosystem above and below the dam.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:35:50pm

We would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling kids.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:37:42pm
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A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:43:48pm

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

I wish I could eat curry, but it causes..let’s say issues with my tummy. That looks yummy!

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:46:02pm

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

And Solar also works in the cold. The wires are cold and that makes them a little more efficient.

re: #99 Cheechako

Solar is very efficient in the summer with over 15 hours per day of sunlight. Not very well in the winter with less than 5 hours of sunlight per day. And that winter sunlight comes from a sun that is barely over the horizon.

I haven’t heard this before. Everything I’ve been told and read agrees with what Philly Pretzel said: the cold makes the panels more efficient, basically like water cooling on a computer chip.

We have solar and use an app to monitor its intake. I would imagine there’s someway to figure out the winter vs summer efficiency of the panels. Given how well it’s working overall, it’s probably not something worth losing sleep over.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:46:57pm
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Belafon  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:48:31pm

re: #112 Mattand

Some of it is about the angle of the light hitting the panels.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:51:46pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I met a Tex-publican who did not know that there were oil wells in California. He thought the communist eco-wackies would long since have shut them down if there ever had been.

Apparently LA is lousy with them. A lot of single wells that are hidden in plain sight, camouflaged to blend in the surroundings.

I’m sure OK isn’t exactly light in the oil production department either.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:53:36pm

re: #114 Belafon

Some of it is about the angle of the light hitting the panels.

Yeah, we’ve got one panel that sits right next to the stove chimney that always produces slightly less than the others.

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Nojay UK  Apr 25, 2021 • 3:57:19pm

re: #112 Mattand

I haven’t heard this before. Everything I’ve been told and read agrees with what Philly Pretzel said: the cold makes the panels more efficient, basically like water cooling on a computer chip.

It’s more that high temperatures make the panels less efficient. It can help efficiency, for example to fit passive heatsinks to the back of solar panels so the actual semiconductor junctions producing electricity remain cooler than they would be on a hot sunny day.

Oddly enough thermal power stations also produce more power in colder temperatures. Coal-fired and nuclear power plants produce a few percent more electricity in winter than they do in the summer. The reason is the cold sink that acts to condense the working steam is usually something like seawater or river water and the lower temps increases the pressure difference across the generating set’s turbine blades which produces more electricity.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:07:16pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I met a Tex-publican who did not know that there were oil wells in California. He thought the communist eco-wackies would long since have shut them down if there ever had been.

Remind him of something called the La Brea Tar Pits…

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:14:12pm

There’s Stupid…

And then…

There’s Kevin Sorbo Stupid…

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Jay C  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:18:59pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

Remind him of something called the La Brea Tar Pits…

For many years (until quite recently) my CA high school was noted for having working oil wells on one corner of its property, which reputedly helped boost the school district’s budget no small amount.

And there were still working wells in a lot of the LA area when I lived there- guess the commies couldn’t get to all of them….

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:27:30pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:28:13pm

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

That looks so good. I need to look up a good curry chicken recipe since I have some Roti skins.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:29:20pm

re: #121 Patricia Kayden

That is good news.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:32:08pm

re: #123 PhillyPretzel

Hoping that Canada does the same.

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austin_blue  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:33:16pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

I’m more worried about the 10% of Democrats who think it was the wrong verdict. WTH?!!!

There’s always a group that will hear that question and think “He should have got the chair!”

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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:35:31pm

Did anyone watch Survivor Type?????

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:37:03pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 4:44:35pm

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

That looks so good. I need to look up a good curry chicken recipe since I have some Roti skins.

It didn’t come out as spicy as I expected. I will have to use more serranos next time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:04:09pm
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sagehen  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:05:01pm

I just saw a commercial for Regeneron. “Call your doctor, ask if monoclonal antibodies are right for you.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:09:59pm

re: #130 sagehen

I just saw a commercial for Regeneron. “Call your doctor, ask if monoclonal antibodies are right for you.”

Donald Trump REGENERON Retro Ad for the Covid-19 Cure

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Dave In Austin  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:10:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:13:02pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more at the Houston Chronicle)

In Texas, some local GOPs call for statewide vote on secession

Give us back our crap then.

As soon as that happens, Mexico should invade and reclaim its territory.

heh

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Dave In Austin  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:15:05pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

As soon as that happens, Mexico should invade and reclaim its territory.

heh

I always ask if these folks still consider themselves “Patriots” if they always want to secede.

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sagehen  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:20:42pm

For anybody wondering why the Oscars are at Union Station instead of a theater…

The ventilation is MUCH better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:24:20pm

re: #70 Mattand

Yeah, like, how does that work, assuming TX can legally leave the US like they’re cancelling a Disney Plus subscription?

I mean, I can easily see these asshats going “Well, gosh, all of this military hardware that’s now within our independent borders must be ours, then” or some bullshit like that.

Also, you’d think that the recent weather-induced grid failure would convince even the most fanatical of secessionists that maybe Texas is incapable of keeping infrastructure running on its own without outside help.

I really wonder with these fucking idiots if it’s simply a matter of “Well, we own all the oils, so we’ll bring the US to its knees within hours of leaving.”

Just wait until they find out that the pipelines get shut down first thing.
Texas don’t got ALL of the oil in the USA.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:24:40pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:25:41pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

C’mon, boss. Why you gotta be a downer on what was otherwise a reasonably lovely (if cloudy and rainy/snowy) weekend?!

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A Mom Anon  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:29:34pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Yeah, evil shitiness generally doesn’t go quietly. He knows a lot of equally awful people, all wanting to be the next Evil Asshole.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:30:57pm

re: #139 A Mom Anon

Yeah, evil shitiness generally doesn’t go quietly. He knows a lot of equally awful people, all wanting to be the next Evil Asshole.

Erik Prince sitting quietly in the corner, like, please, do me a civil war.
Pleeeease…

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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:34:45pm

re: #105 William Lewis

Do they have the same level of trouble with fish spawning up there as has lead to dam removals in Washington & Oregon?

All of the hydro dams and lakes are located above natural barriers which prevent any further migration of fish upstream.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:35:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:35:50pm

It really is.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:36:24pm

re: #141 Cheechako

All of the hydro dams and lakes are located above natural barriers which prevent any further migration of fish upstream.

Cool. Sounds like there was some thinking beyond just X’ head of water for the turbines.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:40:04pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

I had biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs for dinner on Friday night

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:42:10pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I had biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs for dinner on Friday night

My absolute favorite. I made biscuits and gravy for the first time early this year, and it turned out absolutely amazing. It’s going to be difficult to keep the weight off if I keep finding recipes that I can make, LOL.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:42:47pm
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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:44:19pm

Still catching up…

From last thread:

re: #275 lizardofid

re: #246 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. PNC bank in the background. Where in PA is this street?

Love this! Photo from Shadyside. Sign leads to Tocayo Tacqueria.
Posted by Straight Outta Pittsburgh on Sunday, April 4, 2021

Oh, good morning!

Bingo! Walnut and Ivy, Google Maps Streetview. Even has the Tacos/No Tacos sign!
google.com

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 5:54:13pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

We serve it every day at work so I always eat it every morning at the end of an overnight shift. Tomorrow morning, for example, will be biscuit & gravy, a cheddar omelet, sausage links and pancakes from our nifty push the button and get 2 pancakes out the side in a couple of minutes :) Our B menu is scrambled eggs and bacon.

It’s free for the guests and actually not too bad; I’ve certainly paid a lot more for worse.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:00:31pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:04:19pm

re: #112 Mattand

I haven’t heard this before. Everything I’ve been told and read agrees with what Philly Pretzel said: the cold makes the panels more efficient, basically like water cooling on a computer chip.

We have solar and use an app to monitor its intake. I would imagine there’s someway to figure out the winter vs summer efficiency of the panels. Given how well it’s working overall, it’s probably not something losing sleep over.

Solar panels are designed to operate with the most efficiency with the sun directly hitting the panel at a direct 90 degree angle. Efficiency is reduced as the sunlight angle is increased due to the sun rising or setting. That’s why the huge commercial solar farms have mechanical devices which will tilt or raise the panels to meet the direct sunlight. The commercial solar farms also are designed to move the panels from east to west to follow the direct sunlight as the earth rotates during the day.

Here in Juneau, in June the sun rises (about 0300) in the NNE and rotates around to NNW to set (about 2230). The path the sun follows is just about directly above us so adjusting solar panels just need to be flat to capture the most sunlight.

In the winter (December), the sun rises from the SSE (about 0930) and sets in the SSW (about 1500). At midday, the sun barely rises 15 degrees above the horizon. To operate the solar panels at this time of year would require them to be almost vertical to operate. And that depends on whether or not the sun is shining. This past winter we had no more than 20 days with any extended periods of sunshine.

So, yes, solar panels will and are operating up here but they will never be the total answer.

Wind and hydro will power Alaska in the future.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:06:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:08:43pm
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Dragonomics  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:19:53pm

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:21:12pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

All the black marketers of WW1 and WW2 got together and took over the GOP.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:21:24pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

Sadly, we could. 80 years seems like a short time, but that is 2-3 generations of people who have been coddled in post-war largesse. I had to be taught, explicitly, what it means to have compassion and how to make do with little until I had much. Many of my peers started with much and never learned to handle it. And so we find ourselves in the mess we are currently in.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:21:46pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

Wingnuts will be happy to conserve, recycle, ration, sacrifice, do without in order for Trump & gang to have MOAR MONEYS.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:23:07pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

I’d love it if Texas seceded. The Republican Party would be toast without all those electoral college votes.

What would be concerning however a a Putin-aligned fascist state sharing a direct border with the USA. A right wing fascist party controlled Texas would quickly align itself with Putin as well as a looser but cosy relationship with Turkey’s Erdoğan and overtly racist Hungary.

The USA could withdraw all military assets from Texas including Ft Hood but Putin would see an opportunity to send “advisors” to Texas. This would not be an actual physical threat but much more of a political payback for perceived incursions into Russian SOI.

The main threat would be fascist Texas helping Putin in its cyber warfare efforts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:24:39pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

I was discussing this with my brother just a couple of hours ago

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:25:18pm

re: #55 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Do these morons think they’d get to keep all 15 US military bases, plus the PANTEX nuclear weapons plant, not to mention all the other shit I have no idea about?

As I understand it, Texas joined the United States back in the 1840’s for basically two reasons. First, Mexico was preparing for another go at them. Second, because Texas was economically nonviable independently.

The US declined to annex Texas up until the mid-1840s for two reasons. First, because annexing it would mean war with Mexico. Second, because of the issue of Slave versus Free States.

The United States finally agreed to annex Texas because President Tyler needed the Texas votes to gain another term in office. He was also a major factor in sabotaging British efforts to emancipate the slaves and eliminated slavery prior to admission into the US.

Tyler was outmaneuvered. While Texas was admitted into the US as a slave state, it was after the election that turned out Tyler.

I suspect the concept of economically non-viable as an independent country is still the case.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:26:47pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

Well. A lot of that history is glossed over. You can find stuff about strikes during that periods. Or pictures of MPs carrying an executive* out of his office while still in his chair as Roosevelt essentially nationalized some things for war production. Plus, of course, it was still a time when the minorities knew their place and while there were tremors starting the war was going to lay a lot of groundwork and employment for minorities and women who did not want to give it up afterwards.

If anything, the country was monstrously anti-immigrant and isolationist. By the time we got involved in WW2 it was sort of clear that it could not be totally ignored both for political and economic reasons. I also think with the “frontier” closing out and WW1 the USA was going to decide to start acting as a major power on the world stage. (The initial appearance with Wilson following WW1 not going so well.)

And the US managed to ride out the Depression without much more than dipping its toe in the idea of implementing a fascist dictatorship.

* - Definitely a Republican I am sure.

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:29:52pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

You neglect what racist fear/anger at the Asians is capable of causing. Even someone who was not otherwise racist hated the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, always considered it tragic that his childhood malaria kept the Navy from assigning him to the Pacific (PT boats chasing U-boats off the coast of Virginia instead) and wouldn’t buy Japanese made products till the day he died. It’s a good thing my son is from Vietnam and not Japan!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:29:52pm

re: #160 ckkatz

Texas would bankrupt itself trying to build their protective border.

And then quickly become an international pariah as they tried to implement some sort of pseudo-apartheid system making half their residents second-class citizens. With the economic sanctions from that speeding up the process of them collapsing.
/

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:31:15pm

re: #160 ckkatz

As I understand it, Texas joined the United States back in the 1840’s for basically two reasons. First, Mexico was preparing for another go at them. Second, because Texas was economically nonviable independently.

The US declined to annex Texas up until the mid-1840s for two reasons. First, because annexing it would mean war with Mexico. Second, because of the issue of Slave versus Free States.

The United States finally agreed to annex Texas because President Tyler needed the Texas votes to gain another term in office. He was also a major factor in sabotaging British efforts to emancipate the slaves and eliminated slavery prior to admission into the US.

Tyler was outmaneuvered. While Texas was admitted into the US as a slave state, it was after the election that turned out Tyler.

I suspect the concept of economically non-viable as an independent country is still the case.

Especially since the post-independence brain-drain will be a flood of Biblical dimensions.

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Mattand  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:33:43pm

re: #151 Cheechako

Solar panels are designed to operate with the most efficiency with the sun directly hitting the panel at a direct 90 degree angle. Efficiency is reduced as the sunlight angle is increased due to the sun rising or setting. That’s why the huge commercial solar farms have mechanical devices which will tilt or raise the panels to meat the direct sunlight. The commercial solar farms also are designed to move the panels from east to west to follow the direct sunlight as the earth rotates during the day.

Here in Juneau, in June the sun rises (about 0300) in the NNE and rotates around to NNW to set (about 2230). The path the sun follows is just about directly above us so adjusting solar panels just need to be flat to capture the most sunlight.

In the winter (December), the sun rises from the SSE (about 0930) and sets in the SSW (about 1500). At midday, the sun barely rises 15 degrees above the horizon. To operate the solar panels at this time of year would require them to be almost vertical to operate. And that depends on whether or not the sun is shining. This past winter we had no more than 20 days with any extended periods of sunshine.

So, yes, solar panels will and are operating up here but they will never be the total answer.

Wind and hydro will power Alaska in the future.

I wasn’t aware the discussion was AK-centric.

FWIW, I haven’t seen too many people say “Solar rules, all other alt energy drools.” We’ve got some a few wind farms in NJ and another on the way, in addition to installing solar on telephone poles.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:37:28pm

re: #165 Mattand

I wasn’t aware the discussion was AK-centric.

FWIW, I haven’t seen too many people say “Solar rules, all other alt energy drools.” We’ve got some a few wind farms in NJ and another on the way, in addition to installing solar on telephone poles.

Here in MN, we have a mix of solar farms and wind farms for renewable energy, along with a whole bunch of gas plants. Not a lot of nukes or coal up thisaway these days. There are a fair number of houses that have solar, but that’s mostly the rich folks who have multiple houses/lake houses that have those. The state provided tax incentives to put in solar, but the winter efficiency this far north is so low that not a lot of the common folk really felt it advantageous to put forward the up-front cash.

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:41:47pm

re: #37 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wouldn’t you also need to be careful where and how you disposed of the water with the dissolved drug in it? (e.g. sewers where I used to live in Philly ran directly into a nearby river.)

I understand that there are very few current drinking water standards for pharmaceuticals. Basically researchers have not reached agreement on what they should be. Lots of anecdotal horror stories about the dissolved pharmaceuticals, though.

eta - completed dropped part of sentence. I’m sure that there are other typos I should have noticed and corrected, but didn’t.

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:43:39pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This has me thinking about the “California Succession” movement of a few years ago. It was based in Russia, iirc.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:44:23pm

re: #168 ckkatz

This has me thinking about the “California Succession” movement of a few years ago. It was based in Russia, iirc.

I’m pretty sure the modern secessionist movement is, too. Putin desperately wants the US to be fighting itself.

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:44:46pm

re: #168 ckkatz

The Texas one is too.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:45:38pm
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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:46:20pm

If any of these idiots really cared about meat they would have shunned Trump.

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:51:18pm

From a couple of threads ago…

re: #43 nines09

Beth. Now imagine the live performance sounds even better.
Beth.

youtube.com

Thank you for posting this, hadn’t heard it before, been listening to it for the past hour

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sagehen  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:53:38pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

If anything, the country was monstrously anti-immigrant and isolationist. By the time we got involved in WW2 it was sort of clear that it could not be totally ignored both for political and economic reasons. I also think with the “frontier” closing out and WW1 the USA was going to decide to start acting as a major power on the world stage. (The initial appearance with Wilson following WW1 not going so well.)

We didn’t exactly “choose” to get involved in WW2. FDR wanted to, but congress and the pubic were against the idea. He couldn’t, until Pearl Harbor. And then the day after that, Germany declared war on us. Again, not our choice.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:55:26pm
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Cheechako  Apr 25, 2021 • 6:57:40pm

re: #165 Mattand

I wasn’t aware the discussion was AK-centric.

FWIW, I haven’t seen too many people say “Solar rules, all other alt energy drools.” We’ve got some a few wind farms in NJ and another on the way, in addition to installing solar on telephone poles.

Different power sources are more suitable for different parts of the country. Here in my part of Alaska, our abundant rainfall in most years make hydro power the natural choice. There’s also potential for tidal change for power production as our change in tide levels shifts +/- over 20 feet in each change from high to low and low to high, twice every four hours. There are companies researching this possibility.

Look at the wind farms located all over the country. Every area that has sustainable winds has the potential to produce power. From the mountain passes in SoCal, the high plains of WY, and the offshore of the East Coast wind turbines are sprouting up everywhere.

Solar farms are being developed everywhere there is consistent sunshine. Yes, they are only operable during the daytime but their power can be integrated with other sources to provide 24 hour power. Plus, electrical storage will be massively different and enhanced in the future.

At the rate the US is developing sustainable green energy, I feel it will not be difficult to meet the future energy goals.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:00:53pm

re: #176 Cheechako

Wind farms. I live in the heart of the midwestern US. Every time I drive to fish country and back, I pass by a half-dozen major wind farms - and when I say “major”, I mean, “a hundred windmills spinning at a time” major. They are obviously investing in the renewable resource that is plentiful in my region. Flyover country is good for extracting wind energy.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:05:09pm

re: #177 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Wind farms. I live in the heart of the midwestern US. Every time I drive to fish country and back, I pass by a half-dozen major wind farms - and when I say “major”, I mean, “a hundred windmills spinning at a time” major. They are obviously investing in the renewable resource that is plentiful in my region. Flyover country is good for extracting wind energy.

I haven’t been to Toronto since 2019, but I always loved driving through the Chatham Wind Orchard along the 401 and the 402.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:07:08pm

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

I haven’t been to Toronto since 2019, but I always loved driving through the Chatham Wind Orchard along the 401 and the 402.

There’s a stretch along I-39 through Illinois where you pass through either 2 or 3 different wind farms as you follow the turns of the interstate, it’s kind of beautiful as you turn against the wind and see the mills turning.

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A Cranky One  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:09:02pm
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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:14:59pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Biscuits and Gravy is delicious. It’s rich that English folks are shitting on it like they know food. :D :D

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KingKenrod  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:15:39pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:16:10pm

re: #181 plansbandc

Biscuits and Gravy is delicious. It’s rich that English folks are shitting on it like they know food. :D :D

Right?! The one thing that Americans got right when it comes to cuisine. Savory biscuits, fatty gravy, rich sausage… *drools*

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jaunte  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:16:58pm

re: #181 plansbandc

I’d take it over beans on toast.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:21:36pm

re: #184 jaunte

I’d take it over beans on toast.

Have had it over plain white bread, confirmed. Sausage gravy is a universal constant, constrained only by the desire of the consumer.

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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:22:15pm

re: #184 jaunte

Most definitely. Gotta say though, I do like an English breakfast. The beans are a fine addition, just not on toast. The slab o’ meat they serve with it is a little disconcerting though. It looks a bit like Canadian bacon, but it has ZERO smoke. It’s just a lethargic slab o’ meat.

But I do enjoy the whole thing together, especially in a soccer bar, while watching Arsenal at 5:00 AM.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:25:43pm

re: #186 plansbandc

That brings to mind problem zero: Why the FUCK are you watching Arsenal at 5:00 AM GMT?!

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:26:12pm
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darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:27:18pm

re: #182 KingKenrod

No Javanka? And they live just down the street. Do they have herpes?

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:27:21pm

re: #181 plansbandc

Biscuits and Gravy is delicious. It’s rich that English folks are shitting on it like they know food. :D :D

The real problem with English food is that it never recovered from, first, WWI’s rationing, then the Depression and then WWII rationing that didn’t fully end until 1954. The damage done was rather insane when you compare what is considered normal food by the end vs any cookbook from around 1900. Much indigenous cheese was simply gone and didn’t recover until the 90’s for example.

As for biscuits and gravy, don’t forget it’s really a way to make the most out of what little folks had. Leftover bits of sausage and bacon, flour in the drippings and even day old biscuit could be warmed and used without notice. As wiki says “The meal emerged as a distinct regional dish after the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783), when stocks of foodstuffs were in short supply. Breakfast was necessarily the most substantial meal of the day in the South, for a person facing a day of work on the plantations. In addition, the lack of supplies and money meant it had to be cheap”

Creamed chipped beef over toast (aka SOS) was a northern equivalent.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:27:41pm

re: #186 plansbandc

IIRC the meat in the British Breakfast is called a “rasher” and they look like this when cooked.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:30:33pm

re: #181 plansbandc

Biscuits and Gravy is delicious. It’s rich that English folks are shitting on it like they know food. :D :D

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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:36:24pm

re: #187 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Sometimes matches are on at 12 noon in England. That translates to 5 AM in the mountain zone.

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:36:30pm

Two tweets I’m afraid to post. Welcome to today…

Here’s the thing. When someone makes a point beautifully, don’t try to outdo it. Just acknowledge it and say, “What he/she said earlier. Pay attention to that.” Otherwise you wind up berating the viewers to the point where they stop caring and that’s not what you want.

But who am I to say what the right way to get the message out is? I’m just a person who agrees that the police need to be held accountable and who gives a shit if I stop listening after two hours?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:38:16pm

Since y’all are talking about non-fossil fuel energy, here’s the latest from Just Have a Think:

Global greenhouse gas 2021 rebound. Is there any chance of staying under 1.5 degrees Celsius?

..

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:51:02pm

This lie pisses me off more than all the others combined.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:52:01pm

re: #154 Dragonomics

It’s always been said that during WWII America came together, conserving, recycling, rationing, striving toward a single goal to get us all to a better place. I no longer believe that. Meat rationing today would lead to Civil War. Asking Americans to sacrifice leads to ignorant resurrection. We could not have possibly been that very much different 80 years ago. Could we?

According to my mother’s stories about WWII rationing, yes, we were.

Also — how many times have we heard this — twitter is not representative of the population. If you depend on it for your information, you will quickly decide that we’re the worst people in the world, when you’re actually seeing the worst 2% acting out.

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sagehen  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:52:45pm

So was Glenn Close rehearsed and prepared… or did she really know that?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:56:42pm

re: #191 🌹UOJB!

IIRC the meat in the British Breakfast is called a “rasher” and they look like this when cooked.

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My mouth had a moment there…….

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sagehen  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:57:08pm

re: #197 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

According to my mother’s stories about WWII rationing, yes, we were.

Also — how many times have we heard this — twitter is not representative of the population. If you depend on it for your information, you will quickly decide that we’re the worst people in the world, when you’re actually seeing the worst 2% acting out.

Universal draft made a big difference. EVERYBODY had fathers, sons, brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, etc in uniform on battlefields. If you grow your own vegetables they had more rations, if you did without nylons they had parachutes, if you didn’t use gasoline the tanks had more. Whatever you had to do without, it gave your loved ones a better chance at survival and would get them home quicker.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 25, 2021 • 7:57:41pm

re: #199 Dave In Austin

My mouth had a moment there…….

Rashers remind me of the thick A&P Bacon that was sold as the “All-Good” brand.

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plansbandc  Apr 25, 2021 • 8:01:05pm

re: #199 Dave In Austin

They really look like they should be smoky, don’t they? They aren’t.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 25, 2021 • 8:03:12pm

re: #202 plansbandc

Meat Candy

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William Lewis  Apr 25, 2021 • 8:06:45pm

One of my favorite singer songwriters…

Daughter

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2021 • 8:13:58pm

re: #200 sagehen

Universal draft made a big difference. EVERYBODY had fathers, sons, brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, etc in uniform on battlefields. If you grow your own vegetables they had more rations, if you did without nylons they had parachutes, if you didn’t use gasoline the tanks had more. Whatever you had to do without, it gave your loved ones a better chance at survival and would get them home quicker.

Very true!

Additionally, just having come out of the Great Depression, I suspect that folks were a little less attuned to commercialization.

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retired cynic  Apr 25, 2021 • 8:15:37pm

re: #205 ckkatz

Very true!

Additionally, just having come out of the Great Depression, I suspect that folks were a little less attuned to commercialization.

They were used to not quite having enough, and having to do without, and to make do.

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EPR-radar  Apr 25, 2021 • 9:12:43pm

re: #205 ckkatz

Very true!

Additionally, just having come out of the Great Depression, I suspect that folks were a little less attuned to commercialization.

The Republicans of that era were merely fucking useless, not the mutant superfund site deplorables we have in the 21st century.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 25, 2021 • 9:25:28pm

re: #207 EPR-radar

The Republicans of that era were merely fucking useless, not the mutant superfund site deplorables we have in the 21st century.

Pretty much the old-school “free capitalism and what is good for business is good for America” crowd with Taft as their leader. If a charismatic fascist had cropped up in America in the early 30s they would have cozied right up to him.

With the heavy current of racism and anti-Semitism lurking right below the surface there. Not as obvious as Father Coughlin and his ilk, but lots of glass ceilings and other barriers in place.

(“Driving Miss Daisy” touches on this with the character played by Ackroyd. He comments at one point that he was finally able to join the local Chamber of Commerce or something like that.)

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steve_davis  Apr 26, 2021 • 3:34:44am

re: #102 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Released today:

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Video

(Someone really needs to steal this and add Marvin chasing it.)

(Ingenuity disappears from view. Minutes later, reappears with an Amazon Prime package.)


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