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Sherlock Hound  Aug 27, 2022 • 4:32:29pm

Been a while since I was first.

What about Snowden?
Hmmm…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 27, 2022 • 4:33:11pm
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austin_blue  Aug 27, 2022 • 4:34:08pm

Cumbia is a northern South American classical dance form, particularly Columbian.

She Who Must Be Obeyed’s Andean band plays a lot of them. They kind of rock.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 27, 2022 • 4:53:43pm

Tired of these pigs.

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austin_blue  Aug 27, 2022 • 4:57:49pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Tired of these pigs.

Git ‘em, Dave!

(See, this is why I’m not on Twitter. I’d block them without even thinking of engaging.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:02:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:04:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:06:44pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:10:49pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a free country, and Newt’s wife can divorce him any time. That said, Newt is a fucking pig (as always).

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No Malarkey!  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:15:47pm
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austin_blue  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:15:52pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

It’s a free country, and Newt’s wife can divorce him any time. That said, Newt is a fucking pig (as always).

I’m trying to figure why she didn’t “trip” and dump it into the fuckwit’s lap.

“Ooh, sorry honey!”

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:16:35pm

re: #2 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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What’s interesting is that they understand relative location and know to look up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:17:23pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not like old Helmet Hair didn’t know what a cad he is and was before they married. No sympathy for her at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:23:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:24:12pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:27:30pm

Taking the longer view, the intelligence community must have assumed that every bit of intelligence that went to the Oval Office while Trump was president was blown to US enemies.

Speculating, Trump’s Reek moment at that Helsinki summit may have been when Putin bluntly ordered Trump to do a better job of being a spy than just handing over sanitized PDBs to Putin.

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TarHellion  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:29:04pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Liking this aggressive Dark Brandon! Make the GQP play defense. Rick “Skeletor” Scott handed the Democrats a gift with his legislative priorities a few months back.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:34:13pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just being a good obedient cough cough xiatin wife *pukes*.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:37:06pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:38:01pm

re: #18 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Just being a good obedient cough cough xiatin wife *pukes*.

She probably think serving her toad-husband on earth is a way for her to get into Heaven. Wouldn’t it be funny if her eternal reward in Hell was serving Newt forever?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:38:05pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:40:27pm

re: #12 Belafon

What’s interesting is that they understand relative location and know to look up.

Cats are top level predators, (their only purpose in life is to kill) even when they’re looking for snugs. They know position and what is wrong currently as compared with their past experience.

Never under estimate a cat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:47:59pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:49:30pm

re: #22 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Cats are top level predators, (their only purpose in life is to kill) even when they’re looking for snugs. They know position and what is wrong currently as compared with their past experience.

Never under estimate a cat.

Predators, but not top level. They’re also prey animals, which gives them another set of skills not to underestimate.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:49:46pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Peltola wins this special election, and can replicate the victory in November, that is just the kind of lucky break the Democrats need to get to 218 seats in the House. Similarly, the Democrats helping Trumper Gibbs knock Meijer out in Michigan turned a district in which Meijer was favored into one that the Democrat is favored to win. I respect Meijer’s vote to impeach Trump, but in every other way he is a standard issue Republican, and if this district delivers a House majority to the Democrats that is massively more valuable to the country than keeping one powerless never Trumper in the House.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:50:12pm
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TarHellion  Aug 27, 2022 • 5:59:27pm

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TarHellion  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:03:09pm

MrsTarH and I are really enjoying The Crown. Nearly through Season 2. Certain liberties certainly have been taken, but the story is quite riveting. And kind of fun how many Downton Abbey performers show up.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:09:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:18:29pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:20:54pm

re: #24 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Hey, BeachDem, what did I say to deserve a downding? [sniff] I like cats better than most people, even if they’re not the hottest predators on the block!

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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:24:02pm

re: #31 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Hey, BeachDem, what did I say to deserve a downding? I like cats better than most people, even if they’re not the hottest predators on the block!

/

Weird. Hadn’t even read the comment. My fingers must be fatter than I thought. Fixed now. Sorry

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:27:20pm

¡Qué suave!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:29:08pm
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piratedan  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:47:07pm

so while we’re living in this moment of the constant rain of shoes dropping on TFG, I want to take a moment to savor that J6 has yet to start up again and perhaps we’ll get an understanding of exactly who else was involved in the coup….

who was supposed to supply the political cover and was aiding and abetting
who financed this, because I’m pretty sure that Trump never pays for anything himself
who was set to call this a fait accompli if they hijacked Pence and stopped the process
who laid the ground work to leave the Capitol undefended, who reached out to the Military to give the mob a chance to work its will?
wo handled and coordinated who would do what, who provided intelligence, transportation, logistics, etc etc etc…

say that 45 does get indicted without a GOP Senate to cover his ass, who is going to protect the GOP fight Club when shoes continue to fall… will it stop with their donors, their pet media projects on Cable, Radio and print?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:50:42pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Aug 27, 2022 • 6:51:21pm

re: #28 TarHellion

MrsTarH and I are really enjoying The Crown. Nearly through Season 2. Certain liberties certainly have been taken, but the story is quite riveting. And kind of fun how many Downton Abbey performers show up.

I apologise for this in advance. (You will need to watch the first 30 seconds to find out why.)

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:02:51pm

re: #37 Grunthos the Flatulent

I apologise for this in advance. (You will need to watch the first 30 seconds to find out why.)

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Dead By Daylight is a fun game also. I play as the killer most of the time. I got it for free on Epic the weekend they were offering it.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:03:15pm

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:06:52pm
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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:11:00pm

I have been enjoying the Iceland volcano updates from the esteemed “Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus”.

Yesterday I bumped into this video from Iceland and thought that I would share it.

I have been following Dixie’s channel for some years now. She is an experienced “through hiker”, and technically quite excellent, having completed a whole bunch of US trails, such as the Appalachian Trail and the Pacific Crest Trail among others.

She is also quite a tough character. Just watch her video of hiking through Florida Swamps and passing within ‘boop’ distance of Water Moccasins. Not to mention the leeches…

Btw, a standard shot in these kind of videos is to set up the camera and show the hiker walking along the trail away or towards the camera. This is the first time I have seen someone posting when the camera gets blown over. And it did crack me up.

Anyway, it was interesting to see her video of hiking in Iceland.

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:16:34pm

I thought all of you might enjoy the title of the article at Balloon Juice:

T R E 4 5 O N

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:17:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:25:18pm
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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:28:42pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

Sounds like he is going to be *ahem* eating crow for a while.

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mmmirele  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:31:32pm

Pharmacist gets in the way of preparation for surgery by refusing to fill a scrip for methotrexate. Two tweets.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:31:37pm

Ha. I don’t watch much TV, but I had the Browns pre-season game on. I’m a Steelers fan but wanted to see how Cleveland was going to handle their QB fiasco. Anyway, after the game I didn’t turn the TV off and a commercial came on for the channel’s morning news (Youngstown station). The people that do the broadcast are characters, and the last line of the commercial was the weatherman saying, “crack open a cold one and join us for the morning news!”. That cracked me up.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:36:17pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:46:40pm

re: #25 No Malarkey!

If Peltola wins this special election, and can replicate the victory in November, that is just the kind of lucky break the Democrats need to get to 218 seats in the House. Similarly, the Democrats helping Trumper Gibbs knock Meijer out in Michigan turned a district in which Meijer was favored into one that the Democrat is favored to win. I respect Meijer’s vote to impeach Trump, but in every other way he is a standard issue Republican, and if this district delivers a House majority to the Democrats that is massively more valuable to the country than keeping one powerless never Trumper in the House.

It is highly unlikely Peltola can win. The Republican in 2nd place will be getting most of the other GOP votes as a result of ranked voting.

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:49:44pm

re: #46 mmmirele

Pharmacist gets in the way of preparation for surgery by refusing to fill a scrip for methotrexate. Two tweets.

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There’s a woman (i do wonder if it is, because internet) in there trying to derail it because somehow two doctors were talking. What gets me is this part:

I’m a male and all, but this just seems almost sexist in a way to me.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:55:01pm
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mmmirele  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:55:55pm

re: #50 Belafon

There’s a woman (i do wonder if it is, because internet) in there trying to derail it because somehow two doctors were talking. What gets me is this part:

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I’m a male and all, but this just seems almost sexist in a way to me.

Apparently Twitter didn’t like me using the words “twit” and “IDIOT”. I clicked through the three “do you really want to post this?” because I don’t need Nanny Twitter.

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:56:43pm
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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 7:56:54pm
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Dangerman  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:00:47pm
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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:04:40pm

re: #3 austin_blue

Cumbia is a northern South American classical dance form, particularly Columbian.

She Who Must Be Obeyed’s Andean band plays a lot of them. They kind of rock.

Iirc, Austin is the home to a big Chicha scene. “Money Chicha”, for example. Chicha, iirc, started out in the Peruvian Amazon, moved up to the highlands and then down to coast. These groups are quite a fusion, but show their Cumbian roots. (Chicha is named after a Peruvian alcoholic drink.)

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:10:04pm

re: #55 Dangerman

Oh, I think there’s a reason

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:19:06pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:23:02pm

I couldn’t resist. Here’s Money Chicha in Austin, Tx.

Btw, the electric guitar is a distinguishing feature of another form of Peruvian Cumbia, “Psychedelic Cumbia”.

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:30:47pm

Stonekettle makes the point that laws are for the little people:

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:40:18pm

I seem to have missed this episode of The Simpsons, until today.

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:41:57pm

This is on my list of rabbit holes to go down:

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:46:55pm

re: #55 Dangerman

This is a BFD. This alone is enough to indict him for criminal activity. What the actual hell?!!

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:48:14pm

re: #55 Dangerman

Oh, he had reasons.

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:50:03pm

Funny new show on Netflix, “Mo”, about a Palestinian immigrant living in Houston.

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 8:58:19pm

“They’re not gonna send me back to Palestine! I don’t have citizenship there, I don’t have citizenship here; I’m like a refugee free agent! I don’t even have a passport. All I have is my asylum claim, and a bunch of Chanel bags.”

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A Cranky One  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:03:27pm

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:07:06pm

Mo gets randomly shot in a grocery while talking to the food sample woman who is offering culturally insulting chocolate hummus; recovers consciousness in the company of two emergency medics who are arguing whether it’s a mass shooting if you have to count the shooter.

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:11:20pm
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JC1  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:13:08pm

5/6. I’ll take it. Not easy.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:24:39pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:29:00pm

re: #70 JC1

5/6. I’ll take it. Not easy.

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4/6. I really thought I had it on the 3rd guess.

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William Lewis  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:29:39pm

Current mood:

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retired cynic  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:40:09pm

re: #73 William Lewis

a favorite!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:41:50pm

re: #58 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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I laugh out loud every time I see one of these goober gentry types brag about making payroll, as though it were some monumental achievement that lesser mortals cannot hope to equal. Well, in fact, if you are in business, making payroll is the BARE MINIMUM you have to do to stay in business. You can ignore the light bill, welch on the rent, fail to pay credit cards, let your trucks be repo”ed, but you had damn well better not fail to pay due wages. I don’t know how it is in Georgia where Marge inherited her old man’s construction business, but in Texas where I built a multimillion dollar business from scratch, they will put you in jail if you fail to make payroll, or at least they would before Repug criminals gained control.

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A Cranky One  Aug 27, 2022 • 9:44:55pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Tim Apple would certainly confirm TFG knows everyone’s name.

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retired cynic  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:25:26pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:30:19pm

re: #70 JC1

5/6. I’ll take it. Not easy.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:33:29pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I laugh out loud every time I see one of these goober gentry types brag about making payroll, as though it were some monumental achievement that lesser mortals cannot hope to equal. Well, in fact, if you are in business, making payroll is the BARE MINIMUM you have to do to stay in business. You can ignore the light bill, welch on the rent, fail to pay credit cards, let your trucks be repo”ed, but you had damn well better not fail to pay due wages. I don’t know how it is in Georgia where Marge inherited her old man’s construction business, but in Texas where I built a multimillion dollar business from scratch, they will put you in jail if you fail to make payroll, or at least they would before Repug criminals gained control.

I remember talking to an incredulous carpetbagger who had been burned by the very strict Texas Wage Theft and Payday Laws. “I didn’t know Texas had lib’rul laws like that!” the butthurt crook complained. I explained to him that in fact the laws had been on the books since the 1890s. If you welched on payroll back then, the aggrieved wage earners were likely to collect at gunpoint. After some untoward incidents, ie dead bosses, the state stepped in to keep the peace.

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:48:32pm
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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:53:19pm

Deleted for being fake.

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retired cynic  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:54:53pm

re: #81 Belafon

!!!!!

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:54:56pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I remember talking to an incredulous carpetbagger who had been burned by the very strict Texas Wage Theft and Payday Laws. “I didn’t know Texas had lib’rul laws like that!” the butthurt crook complained. I explained to him that in fact the laws had been on the books since the 1890s. If you welched on payroll back then, the aggrieved wage earners were likely to collect at gunpoint. After some untoward incidents, ie dead bosses, the state stepped in to keep the peace.

People on both sides of the political spectrum out in the country pretty much all agree that making payroll is a business requirement. It’s just the Republicans who don’t worry about the government not paying them that don’t care.

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retired cynic  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:56:05pm

re: #81 Belafon

It’s fake

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:58:02pm

re: #84 retired cynic

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2022 • 10:58:44pm

Let’s do this instead:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 27, 2022 • 11:04:03pm
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 27, 2022 • 11:08:29pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

She probably think serving her toad-husband on earth is a way for her to get into Heaven. Wouldn’t it be funny if her eternal reward in Hell was serving Newt forever?

Satan: Oooo! I like that idea.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2022 • 11:56:54pm

re: #52 mmmirele

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Apparently Twitter didn’t like me using the words “twit” and “IDIOT”. I clicked through the three “do you really want to post this?” because I don’t need Nanny Twitter.

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 11:58:53pm

Don’t forget to read the response by Robot Overlords

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ckkatz  Aug 27, 2022 • 11:59:39pm
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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:02:13am

Those damn anteefers

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:02:58am

Must be some other hemisphere.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:23:48am

Fourwordle.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:26:23am

Foolish me… I see that Twitter is trending “Lesbian Dance Therapy” and I wonder whatever could that be, did I miss out on something in my life?

Then I click on it and find… it’s just another stupid utterance from Broebert.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:29:05am

This is a good take:

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ckkatz  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:34:00am

re: #90 ckkatz

Which leads to the old joke:

Nature may abhor a vacuum.
But not half as much as a cat.

And on that, I wish all a good night!

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:40:10am

There was a fork-tailed lizard in my yard in NM. Much smaller.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2022 • 12:49:16am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 28, 2022 • 3:14:29am

One of the steeper declines in the history of acting:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 28, 2022 • 3:30:03am

EURO/WHITE ERASURE!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:13:10am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:24:13am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Making progress in a country as complicated as ours clearly has never been easy. That’s why when we build things that matter like Medicare and Social Security, we fight like hell to protect them.

Congressional Republicans want to put them on the chopping block every five years.

Not to mention the gains we have made over recent decades in personal freedoms, minority, women’s and LGBTQ rights…which are now under siege and have to not only defended but won back in places.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:26:05am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

How about an end-of-summer horror movie called SLAYBOR DAY?

the follow it up with the sequel the following spring: IN MEMENTO MEMORIAL DAY in which an untreated Burn Pit PTSD victim goes on a holiday resort rampage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:27:02am

re: #13 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s not like old Helmet Hair didn’t know what a cad he is and was before they married. No sympathy for her at all.

I am sure that she “insisted” to prove what a model wife she is.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:29:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:37:41am

re: #93 wrenchwench

The first echidna of spring

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:42:25am

Trumpster terrorists and collaborationist media keep warning that Trump’s arrest will set off a mass uprising by the heavily armed MAGA faithful.
In truth, this is a good reason to expedite the arrest.
Here is why: MAGA is openly planning mass violence around the election on November 8. The fundy church speaker network, for example, has been exhorting the base to volunteer as election workers and election monitors and mainstream Repug shills have joined in. The purpose, obviously, is to disrupt the election and provide a blizzard of fraud claims that will serve as a pretext for 1-6 style mob attacks on polling places, election workers, and election facilities.

The MAGA savages are being whipped into a frenzy in preparation for November 8. Arresting the traitor and spy Trump will release that energy prematurely. Having whipped up the mass, the traitor media and politicians cannot suddenly urge calm when that pent up rage is released. Far from it.

The force the traitors have built up for the election offensive will be expended well before the election and before traitor leadership has completed its plans. As we saw with 1-6, it takes time to whip them up again. This will be especially true if there are heavy casualties among the MAGA, which will depend on how well loyal Americans have prepared (calling John Brown), and how quickly federal forces can intervene. All local and most state law enforcement is suspect and will probably side with the insurrectionist terrorists or at least stand idly by while thousands of Rittenhousers swarm into the street shooting.

I think it is likely that the Biden Administration is preparing for this very scenario. It could well explain the appearance of “Dark Brandon” and the administration’s newfound aggressiveness.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:46:47am

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 4:59:14am

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Another benefit of forcing a premature MAGA uprising: The targets will be much harder. Rather than polling places and election workers, soft targets whose security is provided by unreliable local police, the MAGA mobs will throw themselves against federal buildings and courthouses, FBI offices, and probably military bases.

I know, this is almost too horrible to contemplate. The war is here, though, and ignoring it will only make it worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:02:51am

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Another benefit of forcing a premature MAGA uprising: The targets will be much harder. Rather than polling places and election workers, soft targets whose security is provided by unreliable local police, the MAGA mobs will throw themselves against federal buildings and courthouses, FBI offices, and probably military bases.

I know, this is almost too horrible to contemplate. The war is here, though, and ignoring it will only make it worse.

We already know that a majority of GOP voters have no problem with criminal actions if they benefit the party, and it seems that a lot of them have no problem tolerating or even perpetrating violent crime.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:14:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:18:30am

212,250K Karma points!

that puts me halfway from 200K to 225K, which is halfway to 250K, my Lifetime Achievement Goal here on LGF.

Thanks to all the updingers.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:19:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:21:47am

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

this is my President

He can fall off all the goddamn bicycles he wants, better that than a guy who drives his golf cart up onto the green and whose only human physical contacts involve young women below the waist

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:22:10am

Liz is out almost every morning now and stays on the deck for a good part of the day. She? doesn’t run when I open a door and I sometimes get within about 3 feet.

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:23:06am

re: #116 Dangerman

Liz is out almost every morning now and stays on the deck for a good part of the day. She? doesn’t run when I open a door and I sometimes get within about 3 feet.

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do I want to know which Liz she was named after?

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:23:39am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

212,250K Karma points!

that puts me halfway from 200K to 225K, which is halfway to 250K, my Lifetime Achievement Goal here on LGF.

Thanks to all the updingers.

here’s another one

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:24:35am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He can fall off all the goddamn bicycles he wants, better that than a guy who drives his golf cart up onto the green and whose only human physical contacts involve young women below the waist*

*without permission

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:30:15am

re: #117 sagehen

do I want to know which Liz she was named after?

we’re not awfully creative here

Liz(ard) (I will not get close enough to find out if she’s a she)
Marlon the Heron
Leland the Eland (stuffed)
Happy the Okapi (ceramic)
Dolly the Llama

etc

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sagehen  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:31:19am

So not Liz II of the UK
or Liz Taylor
or Liz Cheney

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:32:51am

A rando named APV

In retrospect, January 6th offered a good exit ramp for Republicans to move away from Trump. He was responsible for their loss in GA runoffs. They could have held him accountable for losing the WH and the senate majority in 2020 and the House majority in 2018.

Allowing Trump to be a dominant factor in their party has now resulted in extreme crazies getting nominated for statewide races. Those candidates are built to appeal to the base, but not pivot to the center. Republican outlook may be positive if say Ducey was their senate nominee in AZ, Sununu was the nominee to take on Maggie Hassan in NH, Gary Black (state agri commissioner) to take on Warnock in GA, and say Congressman Fitzpatrick as the nominee in PA. And young veteran and Congressman Mike Gallagher in WI instead of letting Ron Johnson to run for the 3rd term.

Now, instead of making the election a referendum on D-performance, they have managed to make it a choice with Trump as the face of the party. They have overplayed their hands on the abortion issue and also by repeatedly questioning the legitimacy of 2020 election. The former has motivated women voters and D-voters in big numbers and the latter is a big turnoff to independent voters.

Since Trump-era, Republicans have not been able to put together a national coalition of 50% + 1. They didnt do it in 2018 in the House and senate elections. They didn’t do it in the presidential and House elections in 2020. There is no evidence they can do it this year.

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:35:29am
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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:36:46am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:40:25am

re: #119 Dangerman

*without permission

*or paid permission

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:42:10am

in NH (NYT):

He has said the state’s popular Republican governor is ‘a Chinese Communist sympathizer,’ called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment allowing direct popular election of senators and raised the possibility of abolishing the F.B.I.”

“The man behind these statements is Don Bolduc, a retired Army general who leads the Republican field in what should be a competitive race for the New Hampshire Senate seat held by Senator Maggie Hassan, a Democrat.”

“In one primary after another this year, Republican voters have chosen hard-right candidates who party officials had warned would have trouble winning in November, and Mr. Bolduc could be on course to be the next.”

(in case you were asleep, NH fought on the Union side)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:48:35am

re: #126 Dangerman

“In one primary after another this year, Republican voters have chosen hard-right candidates who party officials had warned would have trouble winning in November, and Mr. Bolduc could be on course to be the next.”

and that is what the complete lack of moderation in the GOP has led to: a shouting match to show who can be the most gung-ho conservative and True to Trump in order to win a primary

this is turning out to be their Achilles’ heel

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:48:45am

it seems R’s have drawn the same conclusion from every election since the 70s

if they won, they moved further right. if they lost, it was because they werent far enough right

the demographics are inevitable
plus all the sensible people are long gone.
they’re stuck and they’ve left themselves no way out

Because as Anymouse is eager to point out, they want power for power’s sake.

and if they can’t solve it with tax cuts and more guns, they got nothing to offer.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:50:25am

Potential ban bait here:

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:51:13am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #128 Dangerman

10 seconds
yours was shorter so you typed faster ;-)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:54:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:55:00am

re: #130 Dangerman

10 seconds
yours was shorter so you typed faster ;-)

not to brag, but I am always concise. When I was assigned a 5-page paper, the prof got 4 pages and one paragraph maximum, and I usually aced them nonetheless.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:56:35am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:57:14am

re: #122 Dangerman

So true. Instead, they doubled down. They also fully embraced Trump’s criminal behavior and violent rhetoric. They are now the party of death threats to election workers and pro-White Supremacist orgs like the Proud Boys. They are devolving into fascists banning books, banning words/phrases and whitewashing history. Now, they are forcing women (and girls) to go through with dangerous pregnancies. After what Trump did on January 6th, you would think any political party would consider him to be poisonous to a functioning democracy. He should never be allowed to run for any office again.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:58:09am

Imagine what she and Molly Ivins could do with today’s MAGAts.

Rest in peace, Ann. We have picked up the torch and we’re about to burn MAGA to the ground with it.

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jeffreyw  Aug 28, 2022 • 5:59:25am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:01:29am

re: #133 Dave In Austin

“right” and “left” are arbitrary designations based on the seating arrangements of the 19th century French parliament

there is nothing inherently “left” or “right” about any party or policy except perhaps in relation to other parties and positions.

Keep in mind that that Nazis were very nationalistic, which is considered “right” in most cases - except when it comes to rejecting globalism, international capital and banking, and adopting a more populist even, well, socialist approach to the economy, which these days is seen as “leftist”…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:04:03am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s the fool Dinesh blathering Prager.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:05:11am

OH HAI LIZARDIA!!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:07:35am

re: #97 ckkatz

Which leads to the old joke:

Nature may abhor a vacuum.
But not half as much as a cat.

And on that, I wish all a good night!

Or
What separates us from the animals?
We aren’t afraid of vacuum cleaners.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:11:38am

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Last time I commented on the MTG feed, my account was canceled by Twitter. I called her a crazy Qanon lady.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:13:34am

re: #133 Dave In Austin

HAHAHA! Like most Randian degenerates, D’Felon is on the wrong track here. There aren’t that many conservative pseudo-intellectuals left to fall for this gibberish: Today’s Repugs wear their ignorance proudly.

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:13:41am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not to brag, but I am always concise. When I was assigned a 5-page paper, the prof got 4 pages and one paragraph maximum, and I usually aced them nonetheless.

The Elements of Style: “Vigorous writing is concise.”

I try, though i tend to get windy.

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:14:38am

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

So true. Instead, they doubled down. They also fully embraced Trump’s criminal behavior and violent rhetoric. They are now the party of death threats to election workers and pro-White Supremacist orgs like the Proud Boys. They are devolving into fascists banning books, banning words/phrases and whitewashing history. Now, they are forcing women (and girls) to go through with dangerous pregnancies. After what Trump did on January 6th, you would think any political party would consider him to be poisonous to a functioning democracy. He should never be allowed to run for any office again.

you are 100% right

and yet, they can’t quit him.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:14:55am

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I laugh out loud every time I see one of these goober gentry types brag about making payroll, as though it were some monumental achievement that lesser mortals cannot hope to equal. Well, in fact, if you are in business, making payroll is the BARE MINIMUM you have to do to stay in business. You can ignore the light bill, welch on the rent, fail to pay credit cards, let your trucks be repo”ed, but you had damn well better not fail to pay due wages. I don’t know how it is in Georgia where Marge inherited her old man’s construction business, but in Texas where I built a multimillion dollar business from scratch, they will put you in jail if you fail to make payroll, or at least they would before Repug criminals gained control.

It isn’t even about making payroll. She took out a loan to do it. Which is fine and responsible. Now pay the fucking loan back or shut the fuck up about people receiving the same treatment.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:16:08am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LIZARDIA!!

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:16:38am
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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:18:45am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“right” and “left” are arbitrary designations based on the seating arrangements of the 19th century French parliament

there is nothing inherently “left” or “right” about any party or policy except perhaps in relation to other parties and positions.

Keep in mind that that Nazis were very nationalistic, which is considered “right” in most cases - except when it comes to rejecting globalism, international capital and banking, and adopting a more populist even, well, socialist approach to the economy, which these days is seen as “leftist”…

now explain why blue and red aren’t etched in stone, god given colors either ;-)
wiki

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:19:22am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LIZARDIA!!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:19:28am

re: #129 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Of course, election related terrorism is an obvious civil rights violation. I realize the FBI has a lot on its plate just now, but if Reuters could track down MAGA terrorists, it should be child’ play for the feds. Given the abject cowardice and reflexive victimhood of MAGA fantatics, a few arrests for threats against election workers might work wonders in calming the situation.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:31:39am
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darthstar  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:36:39am

Okay, this is pretty funny…

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:37:07am

Tough week.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:40:18am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:42:59am

re: #126 Dangerman

in NH (NYT):

(in case you were asleep, NH fought on the Union side)

We took the Concord Monitor for many years (until really shitty delivery forced us to unsubscribe). About every three months Boldoc would submit a long letter to the editor the contents of which never much changed. You could boil his thesis down to: “we’ve never been more divided as a country and in the name of unity the radical left must be destroyed and Democrats bend the knee to Republicans.” I’m sure it’s in the article, but the other thing was that he was one of something like 150 retired military officers who signed a “stop the steal” letter after Trump lost the election. He’s a nutter and probably has a fair chance in this environment.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:43:07am

re: #133 Dave In Austin

I’m sorry but once I see his ugly mug, I move on. Never read or listen to him. He’s not worth it. I have a hard time that Conservatives actually like him. After all, he’s a brown man in a White Supremacist party.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:48:29am
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darthstar  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:50:56am

Wordle: another par. had a rare double-bogey yesterday

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:53:48am
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Florida Panhandler  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:53:52am

re: #100 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Knowing the financial history of these scam goons, I wonder how much she had to pay to “star” in this “movie.”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 6:58:17am

I was just looking at community FB. Someone posted a photo of a fat timber rattler in a neighborhood about a mile away. Someone said that DNR relocated the snake but said that it might return; also mentioned that before a big development went up it was called rattlesnake hill. Maybe they’re making a come back.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:04:43am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

I was just looking at community FB. Someone posted a photo of a fat timber rattler in a neighborhood about a mile away. Someone said that DNR relocated the snake but said that it might return; also mentioned that before a big development went up it was called rattlesnake hill. Maybe they’re making a come back.

What I liked seeing at a rest stop in southern New York state along I-86 were signs at the base of the hillside (facing south) behind the buildings indicating that timber rattlesnakes would potentially be seen in the area and that people should be aware, be careful, avoid them, and leave them alone.

And the pet walking area is well away from the hillside itself.

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:05:59am
(CNN)A former inmate who alleges her newborn died in the hospital after staff at a California jail was slow to respond to her medical emergency — including stopping at Starbucks as they drove her to the hospital — has been approved to receive a $480,000 settlement in her federal wrongful death lawsuit.

People suck

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:12:46am

re: #123 Dangerman

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There’s a flaw in it, and he’s gotten combative and blocked people who have tried to tell him. The average weekly wage from 1973 has been inflation adjusted, but none of.the others have. Fixing that inconsistency would still allow a truthful comparison of the inadequacy of salaries, but he hasn’t adjusted it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:19:42am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:21:28am
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:23:54am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

I was just looking at community FB. Someone posted a photo of a fat timber rattler in a neighborhood about a mile away. Someone said that DNR relocated the snake but said that it might return; also mentioned that before a big development went up it was called rattlesnake hill. Maybe they’re making a come back.

We have had Mississagua Rattlers in our basement and property.

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:24:44am

C’mon Georgia. Seriously?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:30:33am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

I was just looking at community FB. Someone posted a photo of a fat timber rattler in a neighborhood about a mile away. Someone said that DNR relocated the snake but said that it might return; also mentioned that before a big development went up it was called rattlesnake hill. Maybe they’re making a come back.

Drop a few honey badgers in the neighborhood and the problem will be taken care of….

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:32:51am

re: #166 Dave In Austin

It’s the nice way of saying what I really think:

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:33:28am

re: #169 GlutenFreeJesus

Drop a few honey badgers in the neighborhood and the problem will be taken care of….

But then you’ve got a honey badger problem .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:33:30am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

It’s the fool Dinesh blathering Prager.

Of course, and the whole “The Nazis were really lefties, after all it was National Socialism” is a popular conservative hot-take talking point along with “The Democrat Party is the Party of Slavery!”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:33:58am

re: #100 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the steeper declines in the history of acting:

LOL!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:35:43am

re: #171 Belafon

But then you’ve got a honey badger problem .

Honey badgers don’t care

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:35:53am
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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:44:54am
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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:47:23am

re: #175 Belafon

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I meant to add that Biden has given Democrats every tool he possibly can to help them win. You want to scare the voters to get them to the polls, here’s the message. You want to run on accomplishments, here’s the results.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:47:33am

re: #171 Belafon

But then you’ve got a honey badger problem .

That’s not a problem at all. They just don’t care and neither should you. 😏

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:47:46am

re: #126 Dangerman

in NH (NYT):

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(in case you were asleep, NH fought on the Union side)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:51:04am

re: #179 Hecuba’s daughter

General George Henry Thomas, by the way, was born in Virginia but fought for the Union.

And if it is left up to people like governors Abbot and DeSantis, US schoolchildren will just skip the era between the end of the Civil War and Martin Luther King, and learn nothing about Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Sundown Laws, the Green Book or Redlining.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 7:57:50am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course, and the whole “The Nazis were really lefties, after all it was National Socialism” is a popular conservative hot-take talking point along with “The Democrat Party is the Party of Slavery!”

This is how they know Democrats are communists too. After all, commie ruled Germany was the German DEMOCRATIC Republic and Kim Jong Il’s state is the DEMOCRATIC Peoples Republic of Korea.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:03:09am

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This is how they know Democrats are communists too. After all, commie ruled Germany was the German DEMOCRATIC Republic and Kim Jong Il’s state is the DEMOCRATIC Peoples Republic of Korea.

for people who are as selective in their reading of history as they are in their reading of the Scriptures

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:04:34am

re: #123 Dangerman

Can’t speak for the rest of those figures, but in 1973, tuition at the University of California was about $650 for a year. (Most of the campuses were on the quarter system.) The author of that tweet might have been thinking of the “other”:state four year institutions, or even of junior colleges.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:08:34am

re: #183 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Can’t speak for the rest of those figures, but in 1973, tuition at the University of California was about $650 for a year. (Most of the campuses were on the quarter system.) The author of that tweet might have been thinking of the “other”:state four year institutions, or even of junior colleges.

I recall paying around $250-280 per semester at Indiana University in the 1970’s.

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gocart mozart  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:08:57am

re: #148 Dangerman

Keep in mind that that Nazis were very nationalistic, which is considered “right” in most cases - except when it comes to rejecting globalism, international capital and banking, and adopting a more populist even, well, socialist approach to the economy, which these days is seen as “leftist”…

1. “Globalist” is a meaningless term, unless it is meant in the sense of opposing the “internationalist Jewish banking conspiracy” or Treaty of Versailles reparations, which is what the Nazis meant by that term.
2. The Nazis absolutely did not adopt a more “populist” (whatever the fuck that may mean other than racist policies). Far from a “socialist approach to the economy”, the Nazis were avowedly anti-socialist. They did not spend more money on programs for the poor, tax the rich, or even do something so minor like raise the minimum wage. This zombie lie that Nazis had leftwing economic policies needs to die.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:16:03am

re: #185 gocart mozart

Sorry, I have to do this. :p

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:16:09am

re: #185 gocart mozart

2. The Nazis absolutely did not adopt a more “populist” (whatever the fuck that may mean other than racist policies). Far from a “socialist approach to the economy”, the Nazis were avowedly anti-socialist.

They were big on Kraft Durch Freude discount paid package holidays and tours along with other educational programs (like the National Socialist Drivers’ Corps, ostensibly about training more people to drive all the Volkwagens they were getting ready to produce, but which later came in handy for the Panzer divisions).

These were all sold as being done in the name of the Workers and Peasants and the Blood and Soil ideology.

And they were populist in that they were less socially elitist, even people from the lower strata of society were allowed to advance as long as they showed enough competence (and enthusiasm for the Führer.)

But their macro economy was one big happy oligarchy with plutocrats like Hermann Göring in charge of large parts of it

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dat_said  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:17:39am

re: #164 Belafon

There’s a flaw in it, and he’s gotten combative and blocked people who have tried to tell him. The average weekly wage from 1973 has been inflation adjusted, but none of.the others have. Fixing that inconsistency would still allow a truthful comparison of the inadequacy of salaries, but he hasn’t adjusted it.

I saw that annoying inconsistency too. Pity about the guy’s defensiveness.

I’ve been going with my personal anecdote. I made enough money dishwashing over the 1980 summer before my college freshman year to pay for the entire year tuition ($630 @ NDSU) AND room & board ($80/month, including all you could eat). Granted, I was making above minimum wage ($3.25 vs $3.10) because I was probably in the top ten dishwashers in town. I did overtime whenever they let me, so I even had a few extra dollars.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:18:31am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Sorry, I have to do this:

I remember when that farrago was all the rage among the pseudointellectual right

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No Malarkey!  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:31:53am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:39:47am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

General George Henry Thomas, by the way, was born in Virginia but fought for the Union.

And if it is left up to people like governors Abbot and DeSantis, US schoolchildren will just skip the era between the end of the Civil War and Martin Luther King, and learn nothing about Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Sundown Laws, the Green Book or Redlining.

Yep — I made that very point — that Thomas was a slaveholding Virginian but he wasn’t a traitor and fought for the Union. When sepsis infects a limb, if you don’t eliminate it immediately, it gradually infects the entire body and kills it. That’s what happened to the toxic attitudes of the South — they spread and are poisoning our entire nation.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:41:08am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:42:41am

Sunday Brunch

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:54:09am

Breakfast.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:56:10am

Meanwhile, in China:

hina has reached a point of no return in its battle to contain what could be the biggest property crash the world has ever seen, experts are warning, putting the country’s Communist leadership and the global economy in peril.

As western countries stand on the edge of a potentially ruinous recession in the coming year, China is also facing a slump thanks to “total collapse” of confidence among ordinary people in the once-buoyant housing market, the continued ravages of Beijing’s draconian zero-Covid strategy and an extreme heatwave that is affecting the supply of power and food.

Alarm is spreading in China that tough times are on the horizon, with the chief executive of Huawei, Ren Zhengfei, causing a sensation this week when he warned that the chill from economic downturn would be “felt by everyone” for the next decade.

theguardian.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2022 • 8:59:59am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

It was never a question of “If” and always a question of “When?”

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dat_said  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:02:50am

Someone posted in Reddit North Dakota a couple map versions attempting to depict cultural differences and asked for feedback on which is “best”: reddit.com

For the record, I lean towards the second. While geographically there’s a pretty big difference in land east (rolling hills, farm country) and west (rugged buttes, ranch, and oil country) of the Missouri, the cultural split is the Red River Valley (old Lake Agassiz lake bed) which is the big cities and banking and relatively easy farming on rich lake bed soil versus the harder dry farming and ranching outside the old lake bed. I’d probably draw the line a little further west so that Valley City and Devils Lake were grouped in with Fargo and Grand Forks.

Anymouse is away experiencing cultural differences on his trip but I would be curious if he thought the Central Great Plains and Lower Midwest split was accurate for NE.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:03:35am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

It was never a question of “If” and always a question of “When?”

Yep.

And now, presumably, a question of “how bad?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:04:02am

re: #191 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep — I made that very point — that Thomas was a slaveholding Virginian but he wasn’t a traitor and fought for the Union. When sepsis infects a limb, if you don’t eliminate it immediately, it gradually infects the entire body and kills it. That’s what happened to the toxic attitudes of the South — they spread and are poisoning our entire nation.

They are getting back to associating open rebellion with some form of “patriotism” and not coincidentally, a lot of racism lies behind it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:08:20am
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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:08:56am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

My mom was opining how much she missed Molly Ivins yesterday. I related how much I hater her in my Glibertarian days. Probably because she was so fucking effective and funny. Ivins would be fire today.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:11:06am

re: #185 gocart mozart

This zombie lie that Nazis had leftwing economic policies needs to die.

The zombies will continue to tell zombie lies. Because they’re fucking zombies.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:17:42am

Saw this on one of those long posts where you can never find the image that made you click on the link and laughed:

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:18:57am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

I was able to put that book down half way through it and never pick it back up. It was basically a long read NRO OpEd.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:20:17am

re: #203 Belafon

That is a good one. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:23:44am

re: #205 PhillyPretzel

That is a good one. :)

Sent that to a friend who manages new hires at her job. she sometimes posts (anonymized) excerpts from some of the CVs she has to deal with

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:25:45am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course, and the whole “The Nazis were really lefties, after all it was National Socialism” is a popular conservative hot-take talking point along with “The Democrat Party is the Party of Slavery!”

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:30:21am

We haven’t had enough Thundercat up in heahs of late. What a big beautiful bass!Thundercat - A Fan’s Mail (Tron Song II) (Live on The Current)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:30:58am

re: #207 A Three Hour Tour

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:32:38am
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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:34:31am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Captain Ron  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:36:23am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:37:56am

re: #212 Captain Ron

I am not surprised. Remember it was DT who went into the bunker when there were peaceful protests.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:38:54am

re: #203 Belafon

re: #205 PhillyPretzel

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had an American friend who came to visit a few years back ask me how I dry my clothes, being as I don’t have a clothes dryer.

I told her, “I use a combination of wind power and solar radiant heat.” Took her a bit to figure out I was referring to the clothesline on my balcony.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:43:35am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Had an American friend who came to visit a few years back ask me how I dry my clothes, being as I don’t have a clothes dryer.

I told her, “I use a combination of wind power and solar radiant heat.” Took her a bit to figure out I was referring to the clothesline on my balcony.

Growing up that is what we used in the summer to dry clothes so I caught it right away.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:45:01am

re: #215 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Growing up that is what we used in the summer to dry clothes so I caught it right away.

For the winter months or rainy days, I have an indoor drying rack, so not having an electric clothes dryer is no big deal, at least for me.

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Captain Ron  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:45:04am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:48:58am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

For the winter months or rainy days, I have an indoor drying rack, so not having an electric clothes dryer is no big deal, at least for me.

I wanted to put one up buy was told no by the management company that runs the park. I have a couple of drying racks as well that I set up outside instead. I really do miss sun/air dried sheets and pillow cases.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:51:10am

Some “China hands” think that 2008 was a turning point for China. They played a significant role in saving the world from another great depression after the implosion of America’s real estate and investment firms began to collapse. It supposedly caused a significant shift in how China saw itself in the world—no longer needing to pay heed to the West, and led the government to slowly ramp up nationalism. That ramping up got a jolt with the rise of Xi, and it was clear skies ahead. Covid mismanagement is understandable. Hell, we did it very badly for a long time, too. But the hubris over their economy led the CCP to quash dissenting voices (as usual) and now it appears they are heading for a disaster that experts saw coming. You would have thought that the American experience of “don’t worry, property values will just go up forever” would have given them some caution.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:51:12am

On a related note of drying things, I found out freezing then thawing out tofu gets the water out really well before you fry them up in balls of chewy goodness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:53:33am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Had an American friend who came to visit a few years back ask me how I dry my clothes, being as I don’t have a clothes dryer.

I told her, “I use a combination of wind power and solar radiant heat.” Took her a bit to figure out I was referring to the clothesline on my balcony.

We did not get a clothes dryer until we had children and cold not get things to dry quick enough in the winter months.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:54:44am

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

You would have thought that the American experience of “don’t worry, property values will just go up forever” would have given them some caution.

Failure to learn the lessons of history, or thinking that “Well, we’re different, so something like that could never happen to us. After all, we’re smarter than that.”

Sad story, old story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:55:04am

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

There is very little else that most people in China can invest in besides real estate, so any collapse in that market will have serious consequences.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:56:28am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:57:26am

Goddess above, I love Stone’s warped sense of humor.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:58:22am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is very little else that most people in China can invest in besides real estate, so any collapse in that market will have serious consequences.

Yes, and I’ve seen lots of stories of families investing in high-rise condos for sons—thinking it’s the only way to get them married— only to find the developer walking out before construction is complete. Anger has been simmering and sometimes boiling over for a few years now.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2022 • 9:59:57am

re: #224 retired cynic

I’ve said from day one the Trump era will be a mix of Tom Clancy and Idiocracy and I stand by that assertion. No disrespect to Master Wendig. Plus I love the Coen Brothers so there will be no quarrel from moi.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:00:56am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is very little else that most people in China can invest in besides real estate, so any collapse in that market will have serious consequences.

You bet. I’d say there’s a good possibility that a sector-wide collapse would generate widespread social unrest, which would be put down with typical heavy-handedness.

That would be the ultimate test for Xi Jinping - how he handles such a situation. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes for all the whiskey in Ireland.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:02:05am

re: #224 retired cynic

The Mar-a-Lago situation seems to disprove the narrative of any high-octane, intricate spy thriller and instead suggests all of American politics is being written and directed by characters from Coen Brothers films.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:03:24am

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

Yes, and I’ve seen lots of stories of families investing in high-rise condos for sons—thinking it’s the only way to get them married— only to find the developer walking out before construction is complete. Anger has been simmering and sometimes boiling over for a few years now.

A mortgage payment boycott kicked off not long ago, and it’s been spreading (and I can totally see where the average Chinese person is coming from on that one), which is likely fueling banking sector instability.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:05:55am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

A mortgage payment boycott kicked off not long ago, and it’s been spreading (and I can totally see where the average Chinese person is coming from on that one), which is likely fueling banking sector instability.

Interesting. I hadn’t heard that, but iirc there have been a few cases of banks shutting down for days and refusing withdrawals—Chinese are getting it from both sides in some cases.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:07:08am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

Failure to learn the lessons of history, or thinking that “Well, we’re different, so something like that could never happen to us. After all, we’re smarter than that.”

Sad story, old story.

Except that I understand that Xi thinks “it’s different” because he thinks a powerful centralized government can do this better than an inherently disorganized democracy.
I think he’s wrong, but people have been predicting a serious downturn in the Chinese economy for about 3 decades now. Obviously growth, growth, growth can’t go on forever, but apparently Xi has taken the success up to this point as a guide to the future.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:08:42am

re: #232 calochortus

Except that I understand that Xi thinks “it’s different” because he thinks a powerful centralized government can do this better than an inherently disorganized democracy.
I think he’s wrong, but people have been predicting a serious downturn in the Chinese economy for about 3 decades now. Obviously growth, growth, growth can’t go on forever, but apparently Xi has taken the success up to this point as a guide to the future.

He has actually made some decisions that work against the interests of the banking and finance industries, which is something that almost never happens here in the west

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:16:58am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, a western democracy would never build cities when there’s no one to live in them.

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calochortus  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:17:36am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

A mortgage payment boycott kicked off not long ago, and it’s been spreading (and I can totally see where the average Chinese person is coming from on that one), which is likely fueling banking sector instability.

I guess a large part of the question is whether the government has enough resources (and finesse-not a Chinese long suit) to support the banks enough to stabilize them without hurting the public at large.
I know the idea is to play the long game and become the world’s dominant power, but I wonder how long people will be willing to sacrifice to make that happen in some misty future. For a long time people were willing to do all that because they could see they, or their children, were getting more opportunities as the economy grew rapidly. Now? I don’t know.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:19:42am

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, a western democracy would never build cities when there’s no one to live in them.

But we would wind up making taxpayers who had nothing to do with them pony up to cover the losses and not the banks and investment firms responsible for them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:20:36am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Too big to fail.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:27:59am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

“Too big to fail.”

“But not big enough to be regulated”

e.g., the ideal size for a company

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:41:05am

re: #190 No Malarkey!

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this is more than merely what total abortion bans do

it’s willfully, stubbornly, and obtusely refusing to recognize what everybody including pharmacists know/knows:

some medical procedures and medicines have more than one use

and some of those uses are 100% legit, licit, and legal

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Dangerman  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:46:30am

re: #239 Dangerman

in case i was to obscure:

just like a gun

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:50:03am

re: #239 Dangerman

this is more than merely what total abortion bans do

it’s willfully, stubbornly, and obtusely refusing to recognize what everybody including pharmacists know/knows:

some medical procedures and medicines have more than one use

and some of those uses are 100% legit, licit, and legal

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But a 55 year old woman might be pregnant and just not telling! You can’t trust them sneaky wimmins!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:52:16am

re: #239 Dangerman

this is more than merely what total abortion bans do

it’s willfully, stubbornly, and obtusely refusing to recognize what everybody including pharmacists know/knows:

some medical procedures and medicines have more than one use

and some of those uses are 100% legit, licit, and legal

If they manage to ban birth control, I may be hard pressed to get my progesterone here in Idaho and will have to go mail order.

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mmmirele  Aug 28, 2022 • 10:58:24am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall paying around $250-280 per semester at Indiana University in the 1970’s.

I paid $212.50 for a full load (anything over 12 hours) at the University of Texas at Austin in the Spring 1984 semester. The books cost more than the tuition and fees.

Tuition started going up when I went to law school in 1986. It started at $36/hour and was $75/hour in 1989. And it was quite deliberate. We were told that we needed to saddle more of the cost of our educations. Thing is, I got grants (I still snicker about the national defense grants I got to become a lawyer). I checked last week, it’s now $1,127/hour at my state school. IMO, nobody should go to law school, just to put a stop to this kind of gouging. Just my personal opinion.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 28, 2022 • 11:08:39am

re: #212 Captain Ron

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Related: Comet Pizza does not have a basement but practically every Baptist church in Texas does. Hmmm.


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