A Fascinating Look at the Science of Trace Particle Detection: This Fake Dog Nose Made Chemical Sensors 18x Better

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In this lab, they use different flow visualization techniques to help detect contraband, residues, and develop trace particle detection methods. Part of this video was sponsored by Caseta by Lutron. Find out more at https://casetawireless.com/veritasium

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Thanks to Rich Press and NIST for the great visit.
Thanks to Matt Staymates for taking us around his lab and showing us the fascinating research being done with flow visualization.
You can check out all the cool work going on at NIST here: https://www.nist.gov/

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References:

Staymates, M.E., (2020). My Stay-at-Home Lab Shows How Face Coverings Can Slow the Spread of Disease. NIST. – https://ve42.co/FaceMaskNIST

Staymates, M. E., et al. (2016). Biomimetic sniffing improves the detection performance of a 3D printed nose of a dog and a commercial trace vapor detector. Scientific reports, 6(1), 1-10. – https://ve42.co/Staymates2016

NIST. (2022). Surface and Trace Chemical Analysis Group. – https://ve42.co/NISTgroup

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213 comments
1
No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2022 • 10:39:20am

Bibi will try to get his new far-right government approved on Thursday, earning him another get of of jail free card.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 10:42:44am

One piece of garbage willing to hide another.

Ron DeSantis offered to ‘hide’ Libs of TikTok founder despite California residency

Right-wing activist Chaya Raichik said that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) offered to “hide” her after she was exposed as the person behind the @libsoftiktok Twitter account.

In an interview that aired on Tuesday, Raichik told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that a DeSantis staffer offered her help despite her California residency.

“When I was doxxed, someone from Ron DeSantis’ team called me and she said, ‘The governor wanted me to give you a message,’” she recalled. “He said if you don’t feel safe — you or your family — if you need a place to go, to hide, to stay, you can come to the governor’s mansion.”

rumble.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 10:56:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 10:58:25am
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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:06:30am

I did a Whee. That’s a whiff with a three.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 556 3/6*

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:10:57am
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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:12:11am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:16:06am

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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I’m old enough to remember the explanations from organizations like the JDL and Simon Wiesenthal’s people that “Jewish” is not a race, no matter what goddam nazis claim. Perhaps she is too.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:16:59am

They’re starting earlier and earlier every year. It’s 363 days till Christmas and I’m already seeing houses with their decorations out.

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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:20:21am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:26:12am

re: #8 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

I’m old enough to remember the explanations from organizations like the JDL and Simon Wiesenthal’s people that “Jewish” is not a race, no matter what goddam nazis claim. Perhaps she is too.

“Jews are not a race” does not mean that nazis are not fucking racists who committed racial genocide.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:29:06am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:33:26am
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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:34:00am

Some more on the Musk endorsement Medvedev’s drunken rants:

And another point -

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:36:02am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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If they do, just point out that you are not one of Trump’s Deranged Supporters, they are. Even after the coup attempt, they’re part of the deranged-right.

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:36:25am

ETA - Ooops, I see that you made that exact point in your #12 post.

re: #13 Charles Johnson

To paraphrase Rick Wilson -

No, not every Republican backs anti-Semitism, but even the ones who don’t are just fine with the ones who do.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:37:51am

re: #10 Captain Ron

I can tell you we’ve had some big ass raindrops here on the coast all morning. Had a short break where I was able to take the dogs for a quick loop. But it’s pretty wet.

MIL tested positive for Covid yesterday. We just tested ourselves and we’re both negative. Will wait a few days and check again.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:38:40am

re: #16 ckkatz

To paraphrase Rick Wilson -

No, not every Republican backs anti-Semitism, but even the ones who don’t are just fine with the ones who do.

See racism, sexism, and anti-LGBTQ bigotry for other examples of what Republicans have to be OK with.

You have to be comfortable with bigoted scumbags to be a Republican.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:38:52am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I thought he just said he was “Jew-ish”

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:40:13am

re: #14 ckkatz

Some more on the Musk endorsement Medvedev’s drunken rants:

I responded to someone on that asking if he’d done damage control soon enough to prevent Tesla from crashing further. Got a bunch of “Nope” replies after the markets opened.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:41:12am

re: #19 darthstar

I thought he just said he was “Jew-ish”

After he took a weekend to come up with the best bullshit he could think of. He is not a smart man.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:41:44am

re: #19 darthstar

I thought he just said he was “Jew-ish”

Just waiting for him to claim he’s a little bit of…

DONNY & MARIE~A LITTLE BIT COUNTRY, A LITTLE BIT ROCK ‘N’ ROLL

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:42:33am
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carey94tt  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:45:46am

A facinating detailed overview of the Saturn V platform by one of the founding engineers.

https://youtu.be/1nLHIM2IPRY

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:47:37am

Another question on Santos -

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:47:38am

re: #19 darthstar

I thought he just said he was “Jew-ish”

The word “ish” in Hebrew means “person” so “Jew-ish” is just a person who is a Jew. Which Santos is not.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:50:07am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:50:37am

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

“Jews are not a race” does not mean that nazis are not fucking racists who committed racial genocide.

But that’s not what she said, is it.

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Teukka  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:52:07am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Textbook example of people straining gnats but swallowing camels (cf. Matt 23:24)

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:52:53am

The PRC (Mainland China) has been putting a lot of pressure on ROC (Taiwan) recently. Including sending in airplanes and ships into territorial areas over the past week. The success of Ukraine fending off the Russians has given ROC some strategies to defend themselves.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:53:12am

re: #27 The Pie Overlord!

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Teukka  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:53:22am

re: #14 ckkatz

Some more on the Musk endorsement Medvedev’s drunken rants:

Like I said in a Discord, I’m more and more convinced that Melon Usk has been in on things right from the start or close to it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:53:30am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I alway hard own TDS…. Spell it out that it’s a good thing so it never happens again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:55:13am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:55:17am
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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 11:58:35am
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nines09  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:01:39pm

Drunken rabid racist opens Twitter account.
Smears the walls with feces, insults and threatens everyone.
Talks about final solutions for everything.
Immediately gets +100 K followers.
Elon; “Exactly. Great thread.”

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:03:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:04:32pm

So, MrBWS got a Bank of America business credit card in the mail today.
He did not request this card.
More weirdness: the business name and street address are associated with a city in Colorado, but also includes MrBWS’s name and our town/state/zipcode on the other side of the country.
I tried calling Bank of America but their automated system refuses to allow me to talk to a human being.

Guess I’ll just cut up the card and mail the whole shebang back to BoA.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:05:27pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

111 right now. Tomorrow it should be around 105 if the pattern holds. 90 by Friday. By all rights it should be in the 40-50 dollar range anyway. Company was way overvalued.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:06:56pm

re: #38 ckkatz

Democrats should do opposition research on reporters who try to both-sides them down to the level of the GOP.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:07:38pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, MrBWS got a Bank of America business credit card in the mail today.
He did not request this card.
More weirdness: the business name and street address are associated with a city in Colorado, but also includes MrBWS’s name and our town/state/zipcode on the other side of the country.
I tried calling Bank of America but their automated system refuses to allow me to talk to a human being.

Guess I’ll just cut up the card and mail the whole shebang back to BoA.

It’s the other card that went to the business address that’s going to cause him trouble if it exists. I’d sent them a letter using registered mail.

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:10:12pm

Wisdom -
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:11:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:11:42pm

re: #42 Crush White Nationalism

It’s the other card that went to the business address that’s going to cause him trouble if it exists. I’d sent them a letter using registered mail.

what other card? MrBWS did not request a card.
Some google exploration shows that someone associated with the dental company has the same name as MrBWS. Still doesn’t explain how it ended up here.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:14:47pm
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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:18:03pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:18:47pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:19:24pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

what other card? MrBWS did not request a card.
Some google exploration shows that someone associated with the dental company has the same name as MrBWS. Still doesn’t explain how it ended up here.

It sounded like identity theft with a card going to the wrong address, alerting the victim.

I don’t know how a legitimate card for someone with the same name would go to the address of someone else with that name.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:22:34pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

what other card? MrBWS did not request a card.
Some google exploration shows that someone associated with the dental company has the same name as MrBWS. Still doesn’t explain how it ended up here.

Not the same thing BUT a few months ago I received an insurance policy that was sent to another name, my street address, and a city in Texas (not Illinois) with my zip code. I investigated and discovered there was a street with the same address as mine in that Texas city; it was the zip code that overrode the city/state for the post office. So I contacted the insurance agency and told them of the error — somehow the agency had entered the wrong information for zip code. My guess is that some similar error occurred in your situation — that a clerk working for the bank or some poorly written software looked up the applicant’s name (maybe on the Internet) and found the wrong person.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:28:24pm

Hot Wheels won’t lift a finger to fix the Texas electric generating grid but he’ll gladly waste money putting immigrants on buses and dumping them in front of Kamala’s residence…

‘Emergency’ declared in Texas due to ‘a shortage of electric energy’ during Christmas weekend cold snap

alternet.org

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:30:12pm

If you believe that it is identity theft, you may wish, as first steps -

- to contact your local police to get a case#. (It is unlikely that they will actually be able to do anything beyond that.)
- Then notify the bank.
- Also contact the three major credit bureaus and let them know.
- You can also lock you credit accounts so no one can make a credit card query in order to issue a credit card.
- And contact the Ky State Attorney General’s office.

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:31:01pm

re: #17 darthstar

I can tell you we’ve had some big ass raindrops here on the coast all morning. Had a short break where I was able to take the dogs for a quick loop. But it’s pretty wet.

MIL tested positive for Covid yesterday. We just tested ourselves and we’re both negative. Will wait a few days and check again.

We’ve been getting decent rains here in the bay area since yesterday afternoon. After these years of drought and not getting any rain in the winter, I must say I find it pleasant and would like to see much more. What’s even more encouraging are the snow reports coming from the mountains from Tahoe to the southern Sierra which all have winter storm warnings posted. They appear to be getting ready for a major snow dump like we used to get.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:31:13pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon

Desantis needs to be hounded for this in perpetuity. Chaya Raichik is a first order homophobic stochastic terrorist.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:31:58pm

re: #52 ckkatz

If you believe that it is identity theft, you may wish, as first steps -

- to contact your local police to get a case#. (It is unlikely that they will actually be able to do anything beyond that.)
- Then notify the bank.
- Also contact the three major credit bureaus and let them know.
- You can also lock you credit accounts so no one can make a credit card query in order to issue a credit card.
- And contact the Ky State Attorney General’s office.

And fill out the Identity Theft report at the FTC’s webpage

identitytheft.gov

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:32:42pm

Calling Elon “pedo-guy” is possibly misleading, but is not inaccurate.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:32:58pm
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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:33:42pm

re: #57 darthstar

Golf clap

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:34:25pm

re: #53 sizzzzlerz

We’ve been getting decent rains here in the bay area since yesterday afternoon. After these years of drought and not getting any rain in the winter, I must say I find it pleasant and would like to see much more. What’s even more encouraging are the snow reports coming from the mountains from Tahoe to the southern Sierra which all have winter storm warnings posted. They appear to be getting ready for a major snow dump like we used to get.

We were going to drive up sort of last minute and grab a hotel room in Reno…we don’t get our ski cabin until January 3 for some reason. Decided to just wait until after the new year.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:36:39pm

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:37:36pm

re: #60 darthstar

Threw a private tag around that because Piers Morgan is offensive as hell.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:38:45pm

re: #54 BigPapa

Well. So is Ron.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:39:27pm

re: #62 GlutenFreeJesus

Well. So is Ron.

Truedat

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:39:53pm

re: #31 Crush White Nationalism

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I’m glad George is being honest with his district now

now…ie after he won us the seat

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:42:13pm

It’s coming…

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:43:12pm
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Teukka  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:45:06pm

re: #56 Crush White Nationalism

Calling Elon “pedo-guy” is possibly misleading, but is not inaccurate.

There are some free speech absolutists who believe that allowing posting of CSAM is an acceptable price to pay for their vision of free speech…

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:48:00pm

re: #38 ckkatz

Palmer Report may be a tad ticked off about the failings of the media re the George Santos campaign, but their fundamental point is quite valid. IIRC, the story was that the Dem campaign DID raise questions about Santos’ CV/resume/qualifications/finances, but that - outside of one local outlet with limited resources - most of the NY media didn’t bother to fact-check Santos’ claims: on the dubious grounds that it was a *political campaign*, and so any (most? all?) claims/charges/accusations were to be discounted/ignored going in. I’m reasonably sure they wouldn’t be as dismissive of a Democratic candidate with as fictional a “record” as George Santos (and will probably nutpick and troll some Democrat over some minor factual failing next time, just to show their “evenhandedness”), but there we are…

All of which, IMO, doesn’t excuse the NYS Democratic Party for their relatively poor efforts in the 2022 midterms.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:50:57pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

But what if he were actually just that dumb?

Musk is a troll at heart, a sad little man who only feels good if he’s pushing around other people, which he mostly achieves through deception rather than through aggression. His entire life is built on disingenuousness and artifice, alternately faking sincerity and hiding behind irony. Parsing is a skill, and not a skill that Musk values or attempts to engage in. If we tease apart his own conception of “free speech absolutist” what we find is mostly a rejection that words mean anything or that words, in context, can cause harm or signify that harm is coming…but also that this is normal and necessary because better kinds of people cannot be held accountable.

Indeed, as a bullshitter who imagines themselves a superior kind of person—like many other bullshitters in recent history we’ve had to deal with—it is absolutely necessary to his worldview for words to have no meaning, and for everyone else to use words just as cynically.

That he would “read” Medvedev as insincere, or engaged in an intentional hyperbole, is entirely in keeping with Musk’s own treatment of language at all times.

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nines09  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:52:18pm

Who wants to go to Mars with Apartheid Man?

Normal. Billions of dollars. Normal.
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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:53:16pm

re: #70 nines09

Who wants to go to Mars with Apartheid Man?

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Don’t you want to have to buy oxygen from a Libertarian grifter?

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:54:01pm

Due to the sniffer being based on a dog’s nose, I wonder if it is constantly retargeting itself on the foulest smelling substance it senses in the vicinity.

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Nojay UK  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:56:39pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

Highly prominent people like Musk have social media staffers who have the keys/passwords to the boss’s various social media accounts, including Twitter. They will post and respond to other comments on their principal’s behalf based on some set of posting guidelines. I wouldn’t take most of what Musk’s Twitter account publishes as being actually generated by Musk himself.

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nines09  Dec 27, 2022 • 12:57:22pm

re: #71 Crush White Nationalism

Don’t you want to have to buy oxygen from a Libertarian grifter?

Supplies are limited. Act now….

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:00:22pm

re: #73 Nojay UK

Highly prominent people like Musk have social media staffers who have the keys/passwords to the boss’s various social media accounts, including Twitter. They will post and respond to other comments on their principal’s behalf based on some set of posting guidelines. I wouldn’t take most of what Musk’s Twitter account publishes as being actually generated by Musk himself.

how I laughed at the bold
The rest c/b mostly true

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Mattand  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:03:27pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, MrBWS got a Bank of America business credit card in the mail today.
He did not request this card.
More weirdness: the business name and street address are associated with a city in Colorado, but also includes MrBWS’s name and our town/state/zipcode on the other side of the country.
I tried calling Bank of America but their automated system refuses to allow me to talk to a human being.

Guess I’ll just cut up the card and mail the whole shebang back to BoA.

Keep the card for now and keep calling BoA. My ID nearly got hijacked in similar fashion about six or so years ago. Someone opened up a Bank of Omaha card in my name, and the only thing that saved my ass was the phone number was wrong. This triggered the bank to look up my real number and ask “WTF?”

Literally everything else was correct, including the SSN, except for the phone number. If it wasn’t for that, I’d probably still be digging out from under all sorts of financial pain.

I wound up putting a credit lock with all three credit agencies and on their advice, filed a police report with my local force. Haven’t had an issue since, but do not put off dealing with this.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:04:27pm

re: #73 Nojay UK

Highly prominent people like Musk have social media staffers who have the keys/passwords to the boss’s various social media accounts, including Twitter. They will post and respond to other comments on their principal’s behalf based on some set of posting guidelines. I wouldn’t take most of what Musk’s Twitter account publishes as being actually generated by Musk himself.

Musk shows the signs of NPD and has a Twitter addiction that cost him 44 billion. He sends his own Tweets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:06:51pm

re: #76 Mattand

Keep the card for now and keep calling BoA. My ID nearly got hijacked in similar fashion about six or so years ago. Someone opened up a Bank of Omaha card in my name, and the only thing that saved my ass was the phone number was wrong. This triggered the bank to look up my real number and ask “WTF?”

Literally everything else was correct, including the SSN, except for the phone number. If it wasn’t for that, I’d probably still be digging out from under all sorts of financial pain.

I wound up putting a credit lock with all three credit agencies and on their advice, filed a police report with my local force. Haven’t had an issue since, but do not put off dealing with this.

I just now managed to contact BoA via FB and someone will be calling us about this

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:08:01pm

re: #67 Teukka

There are some free speech absolutists who believe that allowing posting of CSAM is an acceptable price to pay for their vision of free speech…

It’s what kept 4chan free of adults who aren’t pedophiles, and made it a space for evil to fester.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:09:53pm

re: #32 Teukka

Like I said in a Discord, I’m more and more convinced that Melon Usk has been in on things right from the start or close to it.

“things”? Please be more specific.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:10:07pm

re: #76 Mattand

.I wound up putting a credit lock with all three credit agencies and on their advice, filed a police report with my local force. Haven’t had an issue since, but do not put off dealing with this.

When I froze my credit, I was told that I should do it with five agencies: Sagestream LLC, Innovis, Transunion, Equifax, and Experian.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:10:21pm

From our previous discussion.

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coin operated  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:10:50pm

re: #73 Nojay UK

I wouldn’t take most of what Musk’s Twitter account publishes as being actually generated by Musk himself.

This may have been true at SpaceX or Tesla, where we read reports of an entire level of management assigned to keep Musk from harming the brand, but with Twitter becoming his personal $44B NPD toy, those are coming from him.

(edited…grammar)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:12:31pm

There’s always a guy like this.

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Teukka  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:13:08pm

re: #80 sagehen

“things”? Please be more specific.

As in connections between Melon Usk and certain far-right religio-political elements yet to be made public…

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:14:55pm

re: #72 sizzzzlerz

Due to the sniffer being based on a dog’s nose, I wonder if it is constantly retargeting itself on the foulest smelling substance it senses in the vicinity.

“Wait! The sensor is giving a very strong reading, I’m zeroing in on something… oh wait, it’s just your butt.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:15:13pm

As a small business owner, he was able to select his victims via job interviews, and as a small business owner is an upstanding member of the community who can’t serve time, so probation is considered to be the correct punishment for this premeditated ongoing violation of his employees.

FRANKFORT, IL — The former owner of a Frankfort pizzeria who pleaded guilty to six counts of criminal activity in connection with secretly taking upskirt videos of his employees has been sentenced to probation, according to court records.

Michael Papandrea, 60, was indicted in 2020 on 17 felony charges in connection to the unauthorized videotaping, which involved 1,900 videos that were shot using a shoe camera and another 14 videos that were shot using a camera posted above a toilet in one of Papandrea’s restaurants.

Former Frankfort Pizzeria Owner Gets Probation For Upskirt Videos (Patch - Frankfort)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:16:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:17:27pm
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Unabogie  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:17:47pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Stocks absolutely hold value, which is why people buy them. There’s a misconception that they hold value only as speculation, but that’s only partially correct. They are shares of a company and when that company makes a profit, you get a dividend correlating with the number of shares you own. If the company makes profits every year, then those stocks are worth money because of that value. In the case of Tesla, it’s artificially high because of the assumption that one day Tesla will make money every year, which has not been true so far. If there is any doubt creeping in that Tesla’s future profitability is a mirage, then people will sell off and invest in a company that is actually profitable.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:18:08pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:18:22pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Why did he block comments?

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:18:23pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

mumbles something about fiat currency

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:19:43pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:22:57pm

The accusation that everybody’s owned by Russia because they fawn over authoritarianism should be tested with the same skepticism as conservative conspiracy theories.

The more simple explanation, and the one borne out by history, is that people with a lot of capital will side with the kind of people that will grant them more power, and more kinds of power. Power justifies itself, and for centuries it has been part of the capital values that there is a moral quality to holding power. The natural endpoint of this assumption is that expressions of power that are taboo in humanist/democratic societies are expressions of strength and virtue.

Furthermore, the conspiracy misses the point that Russia is not an exceptional actor on the world stage, a unique font of venality. What skullduggery they definitively do is…normal…in the world of capitalist influence on worldwide governance. In fact, they’re just acting like any other petrochemical corporation, except that they do their own killing rather than sub the work out to Pakistani mercenaries or the US government.

They’re sinister because they’re capitalists, not because of old Cold War lore about the KGB being hypercompetent (they were not) or dictator mystique (most dictators are mediocrities exceptional only in the absence of care). They have been successfully sinister because what they do is within the tolerances of the global capitalist system, right up until the moment they fucked with Ukraine and Ukraine giant undeveloped gas field.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:27:17pm
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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:32:27pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

There’s always a guy like this.

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If i tweeted: Shoo. Blocked. Next?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:35:41pm

And in the case of Elon Musk…we literally know who owns him.

His finances aren’t mysterious. He’s in hock to other Silicon Valley weirdos and with petrostates.

The shit he’s doing on Twitter isn’t some kind of grand messaging of an agenda set by other people, it’s one man who has convinced himself that he knows better than everyone else.

…and I say this in part because, as always, the occult explanation of the badness of the situation steps over the more obvious and important elements

(1) it’s probably a bad thing that two authoritarian states have access to that much information, even if their objectives are not international

(2) the entire idea of rich people operating a “public square” is a farce, and will remain a farce regardless of which rich person is doing so.

(3) most billionaires are exactly like Elon Musk and should be given no credit as smart or competent or reasonable. It’s not a pathology, it’s not a unique character flaw…if you have power you don’t have to hear “no” and thus more and more unreal propositions seem reasonable.

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:38:10pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

There’s always a guy like this.

Stupid guy says something stupid, gets noticed, and hides under his bed.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:39:56pm
Donald Trump’s redacted tax returns will be made public on Friday,” Reuters reports.

“The Democratic-controlled committee obtained the returns last month as part of an investigation into Trump’s taxes, after a lengthy court battle that ended with the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the committee’s favor.”

Right before NYE.

Many happy returns

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:41:14pm

re: #87 Crush White Nationalism

Michael Papandrea, 60, was indicted in 2020 on 17 felony charges in connection to the unauthorized videotaping.

17 felonies and he gets probation. Didn’t even have to click the link to figure out his skin color.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:42:04pm

re: #99 Crush White Nationalism

Stupid guy says something stupid, gets noticed, and hides under his bed.

If you’re going to make an unsupported statement, the best way to make it authoritative is to restrict any response.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:42:17pm

And the plural, “IGNORANI.:

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:42:24pm

re: #77 Crush White Nationalism

Musk shows the signs of NPD and has a Twitter addiction that cost him 44 billion. He sends his own Tweets.

The fact that Elon tweets even once during one of the most epic stock price meltdowns in human history is concrete evidence that he is not fit for any CEO position.

Any truly responsible senior executive is now buried in meetings, presentations from VPs, engineers and worker’s reps on how to turn this situation around. There are going to be massive shareholder lawsuits against the Tesla Board of Directors for dereliction of duty.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:42:30pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

And suddenly the GOP loves COVID restrictions when it means they get to turn brown people away at the border.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:42:58pm

He lied about his lies
quelle surprise from a liar

in a position paper shared with Jewish and pro-Israel leaders during the campaign and obtained by the Forward, Santos called himself ‘a proud American Jew.’”

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:45:36pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

And the plural, “IGNORANI.:

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I once thought she was a Trump employee, but she turned out to just be a cult member working for free.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:47:37pm

Who’s having dinner at grift-a-lago on friday to share the release of spy45s taxes?

Bolsonario

So he doesn’t have to attend the inaugural

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:48:21pm

Mind you, the other thing worth talking about is:

If Russia is uniquely bad…well, it’s been under the same system for close to thirty years.

Same people, same way of doing shit. 30 years.

AND YET the entire “democratic world” has been happy to business with that system because it means cheap resources and free-flowing investment capital. There are oligarchs because people bought oligarch oil because the alternative was…anything that required new infrastructure or new skilled labor niches.

Kind of like the “capitalist world” being perfectly fine with the PRC and Vietnam, as long as that communist central government is using it’s clout to keep wages down, worker rights curtailed, environment protections eliminated.

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:50:37pm

.

Shares of Tesla Inc. fell about 9% in morning trading to its lowest point in more than two years after the company suspended car production at its Shanghai plant on Saturday.
*snip*
The decline comes after The Wall Street Journal reported that Tesla extended a planned eight-day production halt at its Shanghai plant, its largest worldwide factory by car output.
*snip*

Tesla Shares Fall to Fresh Two-Year Low Over China Production Pause

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:51:23pm

re: #108 Dangerman

Who’s having dinner at grift-a-lago on friday to share the release of spy45s taxes?

Bolsonario

So he doesn’t have to attend the inaugural

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:54:44pm

After 3.5 years he figured it out

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:55:59pm
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Unabogie  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:57:23pm

re: #112 Dangerman

I still can’t understand people who think Trump is anything other than a blithering moron. Sure, he’s a con man, and can lie with conviction. But he’s just so stupid. He makes Miles Bron look inbreathiating by comparison.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:57:24pm

re: #107 Crush White Nationalism

I once thought she was a Trump employee, but she turned out to just be a cult member working for free.

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I don’t even know why anyone bothers to respond to Brigitte’s Tweets. She imagines herself to be quite the shitposting shitlord, but she is just Stupidest Lady Using Twitter. Her shitposts are not even funny or original. She is the Stupid Ben Shapiro.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 1:57:32pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:04:14pm

re: #116 Dangerman

Now if we only get a Red Baron to go along with it…

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:05:20pm

re: #110 ckkatz

TSLA closed at 109.10, down 14.05 on the day.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:06:33pm

re: #118 Jay C

TSLA closed at 109.10, down 14.05 on the day.

But it has no value.

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HypnoToad  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:07:03pm

re: #116 Dangerman

Next up, Zardoz flying head.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:09:16pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:10:06pm

re: #118 Jay C

TSLA closed at 109.10, down 14.05 on the day.

TSLA is down almost 73% off its 52 week high.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:15:11pm

Shadenfruede stock is up a kajillion percent

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:20:45pm

re: #114 Unabogie

“Stupid” is much less meaningful than people assume it to be.

Most Trump supporters I know are wealthy people who look at Trump and see something aspirational: because he has money, what he does must be good, right in the sense of “correct” and “moral.” But more deeply than that, most of what liberals find “stupid” they view as succinct-ness: there’s no reason to think about these things, parse them, because the answer is very simple.

Incuriosity is a virtue because it shows determination. Ignorance is a display of dominance: they will not be controlled by information or complexity.

And if that sounds awful…yes, it is, but it’s not uniquely conservative. Incuriosity is the border of culture: it is expected that you will at some point accept the socially-accepted narrative of what is. Incuriosity keeps the citizens of empire from seeing the subjects of empire.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:22:38pm

Since the subject is fiat currency which is of no value, here is another shameless plug for Lizard Poker league. We have 4 so far. Weekly game, probably Friday or the weekend, play money, get points over the season, bragging rights. Just don’t ever lie. But if you do, make it entertaining.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:24:58pm

Big Papa, I used to be a serious tournament bridge player in high school and college. Now just play bridge, chess, Go and Diplomacy on the net.

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:26:24pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:26:49pm
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JC1  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:27:31pm

re: #98 The Ghost of a Flea

And in the case of Elon Musk…we literally know who owns him.

His finances aren’t mysterious. He’s in hock to other Silicon Valley weirdos and with petrostates.

The shit he’s doing on Twitter isn’t some kind of grand messaging of an agenda set by other people, it’s one man who has convinced himself that he knows better than everyone else.

…and I say this in part because, as always, the occult explanation of the badness of the situation steps over the more obvious and important elements

(1) it’s probably a bad thing that two authoritarian states have access to that much information, even if their objectives are not international

(2) the entire idea of rich people operating a “public square” is a farce, and will remain a farce regardless of which rich person is doing so.

(3) most billionaires are exactly like Elon Musk and should be given no credit as smart or competent or reasonable. It’s not a pathology, it’s not a unique character flaw…if you have power you don’t have to hear “no” and thus more and more unreal propositions seem reasonable.

Some billionaires are aware of the sycophant trap you describe in point 3 and build systems to counteract it. Ray Dalio is probably the most obvious example, but not the only one. There are billionaires who try to be as data driven as possible in their decision making.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:27:39pm

re: #127 ckkatz

Fortunately, my current vehicle has a remote sensor. I get close enough to the car with the key on my person and boom - instant unlock.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:28:54pm

re: #127 ckkatz

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Tell me about it…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:29:58pm
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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:30:01pm

They are empty

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:30:23pm

re: #118 Jay C

re: #122 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

re: #123 BigPapa

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:31:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:31:39pm
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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:34:00pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

There’s always a guy like this.

He’s not entirely wrong. Stocks themselves are merely representative of the perceived market value of the company. If you have shares of Tesla you paid $300 each for, you may find someone to give you 109 dollars per share today. If nobody wants to buy at that price, you may have to accept less tomorrow.

I’ve got 200 chares of a bio firm I bought at $2 a share as they were working on a Covid cure…didn’t happen. Now they’re worth $0.26 a share. I may buy some more if they come up with a new drug. They do have an immuno-drug that works for HIV.

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:34:40pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Fortunately, my current vehicle has a remote sensor. I get close enough to the car with the key on my person and boom - instant unlock.

I locked my keys in my car.
What are you gonna do?
Not sure..it looks like rain and I left the convertible top down

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No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:35:06pm

Kevin McCarthy is going through some things in his never ending quest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:37:33pm

Investigators with the Santa Cruz Police Department say 19-year-old Damien Vela was arrested last week for creating fake parking tickets and placing them on vehicles parked at or near local beaches. The tickets do have some similar characteristics that could make them appear authentic to the average driver. They even came with QR codes that when scanned, would lead the victim to a website that the teen created where they could pay their “fine.”

Future Republican congressman?

/

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:44:24pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:44:43pm

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:45:28pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

Harmless entrepeneur.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:46:18pm

re: #142 So Cal Greek Hippie

Nobody surfing here today - it’s big brown mashed potatoes out there at the jetty. Lots of looky-loos checking out the waves washing over the top into the harbor though.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:46:50pm

re: #107 Crush White Nationalism

The woman who calls herself Brigitte is a farce. Think nothing more.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:48:06pm
147
Dangerman  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:49:49pm

My friend’s been losing his hair and is really insecure about it
I suggested he should get a transplant.
He didn’t go for it
he thought he’d look stupid with a kidney on his head.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:50:17pm

re: #144 darthstar

Nobody surfing here today - it’s big brown mashed potatoes out there at the jetty. Lots of looky-loos checking out the waves washing over the top into the harbor though.

They put a new crosswalk in at Highway 1 and Coronado. The traffic cam isn’t up yet but once it is I’ll have an easy way to check the local break instead of having to walk a half mile.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:53:37pm

Just posted this on FB. I know somebody is gonna yell at me for it.

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, STRAIGHT FROM MY MOUTH … Yes, they did issue a warrant for my arrest.. so now I’m waiting for them to come by. No point in running and making things worse. No point in dragging this out. My people know what’s up, and the people I told know what went down. I messed up and did some things I shouldn’t have… Now I realize that I have to face the consequences of my actions.
I know my family and friends won’t get here before they do but if you would stick by me through this…no matter what I did, it would be appreciated. I would message everyone individually but I thought it would be easier just to post this here for all of you. I’m going to miss every single one of you I knew who treated me like family. I love you all so much.
I promise to get better and do better, especially because this isn’t real and you should post it as your status and see how many people actually read stuff until the end before they fall for it too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:54:07pm

re: #129 JC1

Some billionaires are aware of the sycophant trap you describe in point 3 and build systems to counteract it. Ray Dalio is probably the most obvious example, but not the only one. There are billionaires who try to be as data driven as possible in their decision making.

I’m not talking about how they do their business planning.

I’m talking about how they construct their entire framework of what is valuable, and what power means, in a vacuum disconnected from other people.

The most dangerous rich people are the ones that have a practical grasp on money management but have also accepted the premise that they are entitled to the bodies of others on a fundamental level. Elon Musk is…embarrassing and gross and very visible…but the real damage being done is by competent-at-retaining-money rich people who ultimately reject humanism because equality of dignity is bad for the bottom line.

Like, Twitter stuff is…not great…but historically the pattern is rich people creating enormous body counts because they can’t conceive they’re not the smartest guys in the room and entitled, nay, destined, to whatever they want. And they do so with data—if you can degrade life this much, your net worth will go up.

Musk and his Silicon Valley brethren are noticeable precisely because they’re incredibly open in the conceit of their own brilliance—absolutely willing to issue their dogshit takes in public—but it’s the grey men who like watching the number go up who arrange banana wars, set up Operation Ajax, or give power to that quaint little weirdo Adolf Hitler.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:56:26pm
152
KGxvi  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:56:56pm

re: #148 darthstar

They put a new crosswalk in at Highway 1 and Coronado. The traffic cam isn’t up yet but once it is I’ll have an easy way to check the local break instead of having to walk a half mile.

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a cross walk on most stretches of pch always seems like a bad idea.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:57:15pm

re: #147 Dangerman

My friend’s been losing his hair and is really insecure about it
I suggested he should get a transplant.
He didn’t go for it
he thought he’d look stupid with a kidney on his head.

This is scary: I relayed that same joke at the dinner table last night. (As told by Spike Milligan of Prince Charles.)

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 27, 2022 • 2:58:31pm

re: #144 darthstar

Some of the surfers out there were real pros. One dude rode 330 yards on a wave that was simply amazing. Had to be his best wave of 2022. Photo was taken at 1000 ish right before the rain started here.

Dogs stayed dry!

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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:00:08pm

re: #154 So Cal Greek Hippie

Won’t you suffer from withdrawal symptoms without that wet dog smell?

;-)

156
BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:01:16pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

what other card? MrBWS did not request a card.
Some google exploration shows that someone associated with the dental company has the same name as MrBWS. Still doesn’t explain how it ended up here.

BOA’s credit reporting agency has conflated the two same names and combined the two different addresses into a credit header associated with that name.

It happens a lot.

It’s a pain, but you need to document to BOA, that your guy isn’t the other guy, and your guy ain’t responsible for any charges against the “unsolicited charge card received” in the mail.

You can also contact Experian, TransUnion and Equifax and see if BOA has made any credit inquiries regarding your account, and if so put a statement disavowing any responsibility for charges on the BOA card, and the agency should contact you of *any* future inquiries are made.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:03:36pm

re: #155 A Cranky One

So much drought here I forgot what it smells like😎. Also makes me recall I had a Cattle Dog, Kona who considered the water an impenetrable boundary and never once went in the water in 15 years of beach visits

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:06:45pm

re: #154 So Cal Greek Hippie

Some of the surfers out there were real pros. One dude rode 330 yards on a wave that was simply amazing. Had to be his best wave of 2022. Photo was taken at 1000 ish right before the rain started here.

Dogs stayed dry!

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Getting my dogs to stay dry is nearly impossible because I’m weak and I know what they want and I suppose it’s my job to give it to them.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:08:24pm

re: #157 So Cal Greek Hippie

So much drought here I forgot what it smells like😎. Also makes me recall I had a Cattle Dog, Kona who considered the water an impenetrable boundary and never once went in the water in 15 years of beach visits

I call Merle a non-standard Golden Retriever. He loves to go swim for a ball or stick, but he doesn’t bring it back to me. Runs it up the beach and leaves it for me to go find and throw again.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:08:56pm

re: #142 So Cal Greek Hippie

Yep it’s here…

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:09:20pm

re: #158 darthstar

Getting my dogs to stay dry is nearly impossible because I’m weak and I know what they want and I suppose it’s my job to give it to them.

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Happiness is a wet dog.

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JC1  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:09:56pm

re: #150 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not talking about how they do their business planning.

I’m talking about how they construct their entire framework of what is valuable, and what power means, in a vacuum disconnected from other people.

The most dangerous rich people are the ones that have a practical grasp on money management but have also accepted the premise that they are entitled to the bodies of others on a fundamental level. Elon Musk is…embarrassing and gross and very visible…but the real damage being done is by competent-at-retaining-money rich people who ultimately reject humanism because equality of dignity is bad for the bottom line.

Like, Twitter stuff is…not great…but historically the pattern is rich people creating enormous body counts because they can’t conceive they’re not the smartest guys in the room and entitled, nay, destined, to whatever they want. And they do so with data—if you can degrade life this much, your net worth will go up.

Musk and his Silicon Valley brethren are noticeable precisely because they’re incredibly open in the conceit of their own brilliance—absolutely willing to issue their dogshit takes in public—but it’s the grey men who like watching the number go up who arrange banana wars, set up Operation Ajax, or give power to that quaint little weirdo Adolf Hitler.

Hitler was the product of populism; the opposite of the billionaire class. But yes, too much power in anyone’s hands is bad, and billions of dollars buys a lot of power.

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nines09  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:10:09pm

re: #158 darthstar

Getting my dogs to stay dry is nearly impossible because I’m weak and I know what they want and I suppose it’s my job to give it to them.

[Embedded content]

Would you really want to go to the beach with the mutts and spend all your time screaming “NO STOP HEY &$!%$”?
Cooper never “listens” to me because everything is a game.
Everything. So we agree that I will make it as much a game I can, and he’s happy and I’m entertained.

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BigPapa  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:10:36pm

re: #160 Joe Bacon

Looks like Godzilla farted

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:12:22pm

re: #164 BigPapa

Looks like Godzilla farted

Just waiting for Ken Ham’s ark to float down Wilshire Boulevard…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:14:11pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:15:10pm

re: #154 So Cal Greek Hippie

we’re finally getting the rain here, been had reports saying it would be 3 others saying 6 when it would start, 3 wins.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:16:04pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle has nothing better to do this afternoon than check out the new extension to the Northern Corridor expressway.

Click to Reveal

A chip shot from the edge of the green for the birbie.

Wordle 557 3/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
⬜🟨⬜🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Takes a bit of thinking but very, very do-able.

SibData: 3,3,3,5

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:22:10pm
170
Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:30:09pm

re: #120 HypnoToad

Next up, Zardoz flying head.

This model would be a good starting point.

cgtrader.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:30:22pm

We are finally getting rain down here in LA. But it would not flood a dixie cup, at least not yet. .07 inch so far.

172
Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:31:07pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

And that’s what happens when you re-elect him. Oh well. It’s not as if Texans didn’t have the chance to elect a new Governor.

173
Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:32:15pm

How do I know it’s the first rain in ages?

I smell the petroleum fumes rising from the streets.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:36:39pm

re: #165 Joe Bacon

Just waiting for Ken Ham’s ark to float down Wilshire Boulevard…

Heh.
You think that waste-of-lumber would float…???

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Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:38:48pm

re: #174 Jay C

Joe Bacon

Just waiting for Ken Ham’s ark to float down Wilshire Boulevard…

Heh.
You think that waste-of-lumber would float…???

Of course not! And you know Ken would be demanding the insurance company pay up!

176
Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:39:09pm

We got 1.56” from the storm in the east bay. Next rain comes tomorrow night.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:41:37pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

But what if he were actually just that dumb?

Musk is a troll at heart, a sad little man who only feels good if he’s pushing around other people, which he mostly achieves through deception rather than through aggression. His entire life is built on disingenuousness and artifice, alternately faking sincerity and hiding behind irony. Parsing is a skill, and not a skill that Musk values or attempts to engage in. If we tease apart his own conception of “free speech absolutist” what we find is mostly a rejection that words mean anything or that words, in context, can cause harm or signify that harm is coming…but also that this is normal and necessary because better kinds of people cannot be held accountable.

……

Certainly, as portrayed in Glass Onion, Musk is definitely not that bright but excels at manipulating others and being single-minded in achieving his goals. His managing to gain so much wealth shows a cleverness at marketing and deception but the current drop in Tesla value suggests that cleverness may be wearing thin. It was he skill at promotion that drove the stock price so high, much higher than warranted by the actual product. The current level of 109, which is 3x the price in January 2020, when the stock began its spectacular run up, may be close to the right price or maybe it will fall an additional 10-15%. It was Musk’s personality that drove up the price — and now it’s returning to earth as he is exposed with all his flaws, especially with his deliberate alienation of much of his pro-green base.

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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:41:52pm

179
Captain Magic  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:42:16pm

re: #126 Joe Bacon

I played Bridge in college, with the Chess Club folks. Think we could get a Bridge game together with fellow lizards?

180
The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:49:42pm

re: #162 JC1

This is factually incorrect.

Hitler got into power by being granted it by the powerful…hence him being appointed to replace Hindenburg rather than elected.

The coalition that made that decision were fiscally and socially conservative forces within Weimar: monarchists, Prussian militarists, as well as rich people who saw him as an alternative to any form of socialism.

181
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:50:25pm
182
Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:57:06pm
183
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2022 • 3:59:43pm

re: #100 Dangerman

Right before NYE.

Many happy returns

I’m not an accountant and only passed all my actuarial exams because eventually the sections required for my specialty no longer included life insurance accounting. But there will be experts out there chomping at the bit to investigate — unfortunately there isn’t sufficient information for them to be thorough and unmask all his financial misdeeds. They would probably need at least 10 or more additional years to track down his criminal activities.

184
Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:00:49pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:04:31pm

re: #180 The Ghost of a Flea

Also, while “populism” and “elitism” are in theory polar qualities, the aesthetics of populism and even the behavior of “the masses” can be, and have been, captured by elites.

And in the case of Hitler…well, his populist message was elitist twice over.

First, in that it had no revolutionary intent—actual powerful people weren’t going to be disempowered, just “the wrong kind of people.” Second, the promise of his “populist” message was exclusionary, functioned entirely on there not being a unified “people” horizontally below an elite, but a vertical sectioning of an “us” from a “them.”

186
darthstar  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:17:25pm

Not all Japanese women can rake…some are better fielders.

187
Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:17:35pm
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Jay C  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:20:38pm

BTW, Talking Points Memo reports that the Maricopa County judge who dismissed Kari Lake’s BS election lawsuit(s) has declined to -despite requests from State officials - to sanction Lake’s lawyers over the suits.
She’s said she will appeal the decision*. Good fucking luck with that…..

*Her election case, not the sanctions

189
mmmirele  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:25:39pm

re: #175 Joe Bacon

Joe Bacon

Just waiting for Ken Ham’s ark to float down Wilshire Boulevard…

Heh.
You think that waste-of-lumber would float…???

Of course not! And you know Ken would be demanding the insurance company pay up!

From 2019:

Lawyers for Noah’s Ark theme park are suing its insurance company for rain damage

washingtonpost.com

Dunno how it turned out. Don’t care to find out either!

190
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:26:01pm

Apparently she is 17 years old

191
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:27:21pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It is indeed very rare but very occasionally Gorsuch stands up for truth and justice and departs from the votes of his fellow conservatives. Is this first instance where he did so when native American rights were not at stake?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:28:24pm

re: #191 Hecuba’s daughter

It is indeed very rare but very occasionally Gorsuch stands up for truth and justice and departs from the votes of his fellow conservatives. Is this first instance where he did so when native American rights were not at stake?

I have no idea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:28:30pm
194
No Malarkey!  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:34:33pm
195
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:34:49pm

re: #157 So Cal Greek Hippie

So much drought here I forgot what it smells like😎. Also makes me recall I had a Cattle Dog, Kona who considered the water an impenetrable boundary and never once went in the water in 15 years of beach visits

My guy (a terrier mutt) once went into a pond because his focus was on geese not the water and immediately regretted his choice. He never did that again.

196
Belafon  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:37:23pm

re: #94 Crush White Nationalism

The original tweet was deleted, but here’s another:

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Dizzy  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:38:55pm
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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:46:24pm

re: #178 Captain Ron

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Busy map!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:46:34pm

OK, just got off the phone with BoA.
They’ve cancelled the account, will investigate what happened, and will report back to us in 30 days.

whew

200
DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:46:48pm

re: #196 Belafon

201
Belafon  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:50:10pm

re: #139 No Malarkey!

Kevin McCarthy is going through some things in his never ending quest.

The question is do Democrats stand back and leave the Republicans alone, or do they try to get a “moderate” Republican in place with concessions?

202
PhillyPretzel  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:51:34pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good thing that you noticed it.

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:53:46pm

re: #201 Belafon

The question is do Democrats stand back and leave the Republicans alone, or do they try to get a “moderate” Republican in place with concessions?

Good question!

By the way, love this comment over at Stonekettle:

“If you’ve ever wanted to feel like an Amazon package lost in transit I cannot recommend Southwest Airlines enough.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 27, 2022 • 4:56:16pm

re: #201 Belafon

The question is do Democrats stand back and leave the Republicans alone, or do they try to get a “moderate” Republican in place with concessions?

I’d think that if moderate Republicans can be found in the House, they should be worked with to improve the outcome. Can they be found in the House?

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JC1  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:02:57pm

re: #180 The Ghost of a Flea

This is factually incorrect.

Hitler got into power by being granted it by the powerful…hence him being appointed to replace Hindenburg rather than elected.

The coalition that made that decision were fiscally and socially conservative forces within Weimar: monarchists, Prussian militarists, as well as rich people who saw him as an alternative to any form of socialism.

Hitler was already the leader of the Nazi party with the largest number of seats in the Reichstag, when Hindenburg made him chancellor. At the start he was very much a populist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:03:12pm
207
Joe Bacon  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:10:26pm

re: #179 Captain Magic

I played Bridge in college, with the Chess Club folks. Think we could get a Bridge game together with fellow lizards?

Captain it would shake the rust off of my RAM plates!

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ckkatz  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:12:13pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is great!

I suspect that you already know this, but document your call. In the Army they call this a Memorandum For the Record or MFR. (Seriously, that is what they call it.) Sometimes it is even sealed in a dated envelope.

Ie write up a memorandum for the record, including when and who you talked to, what was said and what action items were agreed upon.

(Like they would contact ?email?snailmail?call>? you within 30 days. And who to contact if there are additional questions or you get additional information.)

You may even consider passing a copy of the mfr to your attorney.

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calochortus  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:21:44pm

re: #176 Captain Ron

We got 1.56” from the storm in the east bay. Next rain comes tomorrow night.

2.76” here in the not-quite-foothills on the Peninsula. We’re up to about half what we’d get in an annual rainy season, so we’re doing well if it keeps up.

If I see one more news story about “is the drought over and shall we start wasting water?” I’m going to scream. No. It’s not over. We may end up with an average season. We may not. We should never waste resources.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2022 • 5:22:45pm

re: #208 ckkatz

That is great!

I suspect that you already know this, but document your call. In the Army they call this a Memorandum For the Record or MFR. (Seriously, that is what they call it.) Sometimes it is even sealed in a dated envelope.

Ie write up a memorandum for the record, including when and who you talked to, what was said and what action items were agreed upon.

(Like they would contact ?email?snailmail?call>? you within 30 days. And who to contact if there are additional questions or you get additional information.)

You may even consider passing a copy of the mfr to your attorney.

thanks and yes, I’ve made a written record with contact times/names/actions/etc.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2022 • 7:07:21pm

re: #93 BigPapa

mumbles something about fiat currency

Renault currency is a better bet, but not by much.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:56:23am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

Made my mom ROFLHAO. Stolen.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2022 • 5:56:39am

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Now if we only get a Red Baron to go along with it…

I have a friend that flies RC planes at our little local airport. He has about 8 or 9 of them, and they are not cheap. I would bet he knows where a Red Baron plane is among his flying buddies.


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