The Bob Cesca Podcast: Trump’s Mortal Demise

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Trump’s Mortal Demise — [Explicit Content] The bombshell NYT report on possible Trump financial crimes discovered by Barr and Durham. The Paul Pelosi body cam footage. The execution of Tyre Nichols, and breaking news of another man murdered by police in Huntington Beach. Gun manufacturer is marketing an AR15 for children. The real economy and the political press economy. Trump denies affair with Stormy Daniels. Trump is suing Bob Woodward. Music created by Artificial Intelligence is going to flood the internet soon. With Buzz Burbank, music by The Metal Byrds, Anna Marie, and more!

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austin_blue  Jan 31, 2023 • 2:58:54pm

Italy (pronounced Eye-tally) is a town south of Waxahatchie, Texas in Ellis County, 35 miles south of Dallas and just east of IH-35 East.

It is inhabited by mouth-breathing Republicans who have not yet developed opposable thumbs and have family trees that have not appreciably *branched* for several generations.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:03:58pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Italy (pronounced Eye-tally) is a town south of Waxahatchie, Texas in Ellis County, 35 miles south of Dallas and just east of IH-35 East.

It is inhabited by mouth-breathing Republicans who have not yet developed opposable thumbs and have family trees that have not appreciably *branched* for several generations.

And what, exactly, prompted this particular commentary? Not that I’m disbelieving you; it is Texas, after all. Just curious.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:07:16pm
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austin_blue  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:08:31pm

re: #2 Dopamine Fish

And what, exactly, prompted this particular commentary? Not that I’m disbelieving you; it is Texas, after all. Just curious.

Last Monday we stopped there for gas after spending the weekend in Plano with old friends and cooking up a New Years meal for a dozen people for the Year of the Wascawy Wabbit, their friends.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:08:44pm
On January 23, ElevenLabs — an AI startup founded by former Google and Palantir employees — announced two things: a $2 million funding round, and the release of a beta for a AI voice generator called Eleven, described in a company press release as an “AI speech platform promising to revolutionize audio storytelling.”

“The most realistic and versatile AI speech software, ever,” reads the venture’s website. “Eleven brings the most compelling, rich and lifelike voices to creators and publishers seeking the ultimate tools for storytelling.”

Now, a little over a week later, ElevenLabs is already being forced to reckon with, as they put it in a Monday Twitter thread, “an increasing number of voice cloning misuse cases.” And though the company didn’t clarify any details about said misuse, a Motherboard deep dive into the 4Chan gutters found that a number of the site’s chaos monsters strongly appear to have abused the tech to produce phony clips of celebrities saying racist, violent, or otherwise terrible things.

Shocking stuff, we know. Surely nobody could have seen this coming.

Startup Shocked When 4Chan Immediately Abuses Its Voice-Cloning AI (Futurism)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:09:34pm

re: #4 austin_blue

Last Monday we stopped there for gas after spending the weekend in Plano with old friends and cooking up a New Years meal for a dozen people for the Year of the Wascawy Wabbit for their friends.

Ah. Yeah, in some of these two-bit Republican-owned towns, sometimes that’s all it takes.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:10:24pm

Connecticut has its share of MAGA choads.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:12:14pm

re: #5 Crush White Nationalism

Clearly these dumb fucks need to spend more time on the Internet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:14:12pm

re: #5 Crush White Nationalism

AI is the end of society.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:14:44pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Woke only has about nine tables, but the controversy brought out supporters as well.

The January 19th opening of the breakfast hotspot was met with long waits and sold-out dishes.

Growing up in Mexico City, Quiroga, and her husband moved to Connecticut in 2005.

I hope she makes it. Fuck the morons.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:18:41pm

re: #5 Crush White Nationalism

beta.elevenlabs.io

You can now make all your work speak for you.

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TedStriker  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:18:59pm

FYI: Russell Morash, director of Julia Child’s The French Chef and producer of This Old House, The New Yankee Workshop, and The Victory Garden, announced a couple of weeks ago that full episodes of The New Yankee Workshop, out of production since 2009, are now being put on The New Yankee Workshop’s YT channel.

My dad used to watch The New Yankee Workshop and This Old House all the time on Saturdays (when WDCN/WNPT, our PBS affiliate, showed them) and I’ve been a Norm Abram fanboy ever since.

Youtube Video

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steve_davis  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:24:52pm

re: #5 Crush White Nationalism

Startup Shocked When 4Chan Immediately Abuses Its Voice-Cloning AI (Futurism)

Can you copyright your voice? (“This is my unique voice. No one else may use it.”) I mean, don’t celebrities do this to stop the million and one “Ahnold” radio commercials that otherwise would deprive those celebrities of compensation?

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:26:38pm

re: #13 steve_davis

Can you copyright your voice? (“This is my unique voice. No one else may use it.”) I mean, don’t celebrities do this to stop the million and one “Ahnold” radio commercials that otherwise would deprive those celebrities of compensation?

No, there’s nothing copyrightable about your voice. You’d have to rely on laws against identity theft or impersonation for that. Certain specific catch phrases and the like may be the subject of trademarks, however.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:28:17pm

A link to see all of the TXDOT cameras in the Dallas area: its.txdot.gov

Zoom in where you see lake ray hubbard, and look at the camera at Dalrock to see what’s going on.

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austin_blue  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:30:51pm

re: #14 Dopamine Fish

No, there’s nothing copyrightable about your voice. You’d have to rely on laws against identity theft or impersonation for that.

I think that’s right. I mean, every late night host does a flavor of Trump and he hasn’t bothered to sue a single one of them (he is, after all, the most litigious {as opposed to interesting} man in the world). Yet.

So let’s not give him ideas, eh?

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:31:05pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:33:19pm

Oh I love it when Mama Maxine Butt-Bongoes Republicans!

rumble.com

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:33:31pm

re: #17 DodgerFan1988

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Welcome to global politics. Had this been about doing the right thing, the rest of the world would have flattened the Kremlin when troops crossed the border.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:35:45pm

DFW airport set a record at 1.3” of sleet, which broke a record set back in 1985.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:55:03pm

Just got done with the latest episode of The Last of Us. Oh. My. God.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:55:58pm

“We will not have a cradle to grave dependency,” Langworthy said in the hearing. “This country will not be all things to all people. We cannot create an expectation that government is all things to all people.”

Langworthy then turned his questioning to Waters, who was testifying as a witness in the hearing.

“Do you agree with Donald Trump’s statement in the 2019 State of the Union that America will never be a socialist country,” Langworthy asked Waters.

“”President Trump said a lot of things,” said Waters. “He said he thought Hitler did some good things. For those of you who continue to embrace Trump and all that he did and said — I reject all that. Trump has proven to be someone who is in line with dictators and admires them and claims to love them, so I reject any and everything Trump has to say.”

Waters then took the time to question the GOP’s position on socialism once again.

“Sometimes you like socialism, sometimes you act like you don’t,” Waters said.

Langworthy ended up ceding his time.

“We’re talking about stuff you don’t want to talk about,” Waters said to end the discussion.

Mama Maxine gave Langworthy the same vicious beatdown that she delivered to Michael Tracey!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:56:56pm

Switched to a newer version of jQuery than I’ve been using. So far I’m not seeing any problems, but let me know if you notice something that seems like a Javascript-related issue.

A lot of the non-LGF code I’ve been writing lately has been plain vanilla Javascript. The browsers are now basically all compatible and plain Javascript has a lot of powerful newer features, basically making things like jQuery unnecessary.

The basic jQuery package does still have some convenient functions, though, like $.extend that does deep copying and merging of objects, and it’s more forgiving than plain JS and has implied looping over collections that can reduce the amount of code you have to write.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:57:38pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Italy (pronounced Eye-tally) is a town south of Waxahatchie, Texas in Ellis County, 35 miles south of Dallas and just east of IH-35 East.

It is inhabited by mouth-breathing Republicans who have not yet developed opposable thumbs and have family trees that have not appreciably *branched* for several generations.

Downtown Italy, Texas:


Only the building on the left appears to be in use, though there are window air conditioners in the one on the right so there may be something going on upstairs at least.

Italy City Hall:


This is reminiscent of a shipwreck encased in snagged fishing nets. It is apparently in use but with only one window unit, there is probably not a lot going on.
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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2023 • 3:59:49pm

re: #5 Crush White Nationalism

One of the biggest problems in the tech world is how utterly naive so many of its denizens are.

Not surprising as they went into the field to avoid human interaction.

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wrenchwench  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:00:14pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

but let me know if you notice something that seems like a Javascript-related issue.

Would that look something like when the wrong letters keep coming out when I type?

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:01:28pm

re: #9 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Only if we mistake it for actual intelligence.

Which, sadly, many people do.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:02:06pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon

“We will not have a cradle to grave dependency,” Langworthy said in the hearing. “This country will not be all things to all people. We cannot create an expectation that government is all things to all people.”

Langworthy then turned his questioning to Waters, who was testifying as a witness in the hearing.

“Do you agree with Donald Trump’s statement in the 2019 State of the Union that America will never be a socialist country,” Langworthy asked Waters.

“”President Trump said a lot of things,” said Waters. “He said he thought Hitler did some good things. For those of you who continue to embrace Trump and all that he did and said — I reject all that. Trump has proven to be someone who is in line with dictators and admires them and claims to love them, so I reject any and everything Trump has to say.”

Waters then took the time to question the GOP’s position on socialism once again.

“Sometimes you like socialism, sometimes you act like you don’t,” Waters said.

Langworthy ended up ceding his time.

“We’re talking about stuff you don’t want to talk about,” Waters said to end the discussion.

Mama Maxine gave Langworthy the same vicious beatdown that she delivered to Michael Tracey!

She should have held fast when she asked him to define what socialism was. I’d have loved to hear his definition. I’m sure it would have been cogent and thoughtful. 🙄

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:08:47pm

Young religious warrior still at it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:11:55pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:16:04pm

A very shining example of Socialism For The Rich In the US of A

Medicare Advantage plans took millions from the US government and aren’t required to pay it back: report

A new report is shedding light on the tactics used by Medicare Advantage plans to overcharge the U.S. government for senior-citizen memberships. But despite receiving multi-millions in overage charges, these entities are still holding on to the funds, according to The Chicago Sun-Times.

“Medicare Advantage plans for seniors have dodged a major financial hit as federal officials decided to give them a reprieve on returning hundreds of millions of dollars or more in government overpayments — some dating back a decade or more,” the report reads.

chicago.suntimes.com

The report also highlights how Medicare Advantage agencies stand to benefit from this announcement in the future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:16:41pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:16:44pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:20:12pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:23:25pm

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:23:35pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

The late Arlen Spector wore a cap when he when through his cancer treatments. Mr Raskin should be allowed to do the same.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:23:45pm

OK, never mind! Jaunte messaged me to say he couldn’t post comments, so it’s back to the old jQuery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:25:35pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:25:50pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon

“We will not have a cradle to grave dependency,” Langworthy said in the hearing. “This country will not be all things to all people. We cannot create an expectation that government is all things to all people.”

Which is why Langworthy is now advocating for all Americans to serve in the armed forces for at least two years.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:28:31pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:29:53pm

is that pastrami and turkey I see trying to sneak out from under the rye?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:30:03pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

That looks delicious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:34:16pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:34:35pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon

is that pastrami and turkey I see trying to sneak out from under the rye?

Sliced so thin you can see through it.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:34:44pm

OH NO THEY DIDN’T!

Identity thief goes on Apple shopping spree with Matt Gaetz’s campaign card

OH YES THEY DID!

An identity thief racked up hundreds of dollars in Apple purchases on the campaign card of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday.

“The committee discovered a series of charges on the campaign card that they believe to be fraudulent, and disputed these changes with the card provider,” said the filing for Friends of Matt Gaetz. “The committee will properly report the reversed charges when they are credited back to the card.”

The campaign filing doesn’t reveal exactly what the thief spent the money on. However, the payments, dated from November 26 to December 6, are all with Apple, and total up to $362.04.

Now what porn site charges $362.04??????

And here’s Matty Mattel’s filing!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:45:35pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:50:35pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 4:50:40pm

Note to self: An otherwise nice paralegal with a cute little bird avatar on Twitter is the most dangerous woman you could ever cross.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:04:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:10:04pm

he should know, lol

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Unabogie  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:10:07pm

jabberwocking.com

At ages 18-29, police shoot Black suspects at more than three times the rate of white suspects.

At ages 30-44, the difference is “only” a little more than double.

And at ages 45-65 the difference is down to 50%.

Why is this so hard? White rates of police shootings stay the same because cops largely attempt to avoid shooting white guys. They coddle them when they’re younger, shoot at them a little bit more at middle age, then slow down as they age.

But for Black men, they treat being young and Black as dangerous on its face, and only stop feeling that way as Black folks become elderly Black folks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:15:11pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:17:55pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:19:39pm

re: #53 Belafon

One person should not have veto power over what other people’s kids can or cannot read, but that’s just the way Florida likes it, because they know that only the hyper-partisan assholes who agree with America’s Worst Governor will actually make use of the system to banish stuff the Right People (tm) find objectionable.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:21:37pm

Ten years from now companies won’t hire people educated in Florida or Texas.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:23:29pm

re: #55 Captain Ron

Ten years from now companies won’t hire people educated in Florida or Texas.

But churches will hire them to teach in their Xtian schools.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:24:53pm

Viola Davis is on Finding Your Roots, and she was having a little trouble finding out about her great grandmother.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:26:49pm

re: #53 Belafon

Memories of 50 years ago when Birchers objected to Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five in our school library and a member of the Young Americans For Freedom (Buckleyite) chapter took the book out of the library and burned it outside the school.

Was any action taken against that fine right wing Xtian?

Nope.

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mmmirele  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:30:56pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon

Memories of 50 years ago when Birchers objected to Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five in our school library and a member of the Young Americans For Freedom (Buckleyite) chapter took the book out of the library and burned it outside the school.

Was any action taken against that fine right wing Xtian?

Nope.

The librarians at my high school had a bunch of books they had removed from the shelves in the back. Since I had read pretty much everything that was fiction (and a good chunk of the nonfiction), I knew there was stuff they had not gotten to, or they had decided not to remove, for whatever reason. One of those books was Slaughterhouse-Five.

Nearly 50 years later, I still don’t get why PG Wodehouse’s Bertie and Jeeves books were back on the bad books shelves. But there they were.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:31:17pm

re: #55 Captain Ron

Ten years from now companies won’t hire people educated in Florida or Texas.

Those trained in the hard sciences and math will still be welcome, as long as the policies don’t extend to infiltrating Intelligent Design into the science classrooms.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:46:25pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:50:15pm

Biden isn’t anti-tank nor anti-plane when it comes to Ukraine:

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Dangerman  Jan 31, 2023 • 5:50:36pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:01:46pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

The slaves wanted to be free.

I am more and more of the opinion that we absolutely should not keep animals in “zoos”.

Yes, I get that endangered animals need refuges.

But not zoos.

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Dangerman  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:02:55pm

re: #33 Belafon

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Morality is a value system, so it’s more or less moral based on an outside Standard. If there is no outside Standard, then morality is logically a subjective illusion.

This is childish, amateur level philosophy masquerading as deep thought

It doesn’t even make sense

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electrotek  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:04:26pm

Can these Vietnam War vets give it a rest about “Hanoi Jane” already? They like to beat dead horses. They cry more about her than they do about Lt. William Calley.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:04:28pm
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BigPapa  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:04:55pm

re: #61 Belafon

‘Sherry. That’s not what rescue means.’

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:05:24pm

POS dies violently.

Media outlets have reported Rex was either 34 or 35. He was a Colorado native who reportedly moved to Thailand after his ex-wife, Lucie Colomb, divorced him last year.

In a request to have a domestic violence restraining order against her former husband last March, Colomb said Rex abused alcohol, drugs and was “extremely verbally and emotionally abusive” to her and their 1-year-old daughter.

Colomb said Rex’s “abusive behavior” escalated when she became pregnant in Nov. 2021, especially once they learned the baby would be a girl instead of a boy. From then on, he allegedly “alienated” Colomb from her friends and refused to let her leave their apartment unless she asked permission, court docs say.

In a portion of deranged texts submitted with Colomb’s court filing, Rex allegedly messaged her: “You should have lived to serve me instead of feeling sorry for yourself 24/7,” and, “I am happy with the way I treated you and believe you deserve much worse treatment…You deserve much worse. MUCH.”

YouTube’s ‘Penis Enlargement’ Grifter Suffers Bloody Death in Thailand (The Daily Beast)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:10:04pm

re: #69 Crush White Nationalism

POS dies violently.

YouTube’s ‘Penis Enlargement’ Grifter Suffers Bloody Death in Thailand (The Daily Beast)

Police say Rex, who’s legal name is Laith Abdallah Algaz, was found face down in a bathroom, surrounded by cannabis, antidepressants, bipolar disorder medication, sleeping pills, and “muscle-boosting antibiotics.” He was naked besides a black shirt, had a black eye and still had blood “flowing from his mouth and nose” when cops arrived, reported Bangkok Business News.

Seems like natural causes to me.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:18:06pm

re: #59 mmmirele

The librarians at my high school had a bunch of books they had removed from the shelves in the back. Since I had read pretty much everything that was fiction (and a good chunk of the nonfiction), I knew there was stuff they had not gotten to, or they had decided not to remove, for whatever reason. One of those books was Slaughterhouse-Five.

Nearly 50 years later, I still don’t get why PG Wodehouse’s Bertie and Jeeves books were back on the bad books shelves. But there they were.

Those people in denial of book bans on Amazon and everywhere else are in for a rude awakening once Republicans gain absolute power.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:20:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:22:13pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:27:58pm

Looks like they’re dropping Luanne rather than bringing in a new voice actor. She was voiced by Brittany Murphey.

“We are all so excited to welcome back Hank, Peggy and Bobby, and to see what they have to say about the world we live in and continue the conversations we began years ago,” said Craig Erwich, president, ABC Entertainment, Hulu and Disney Branded Television streaming originals. “This show has all of the perfect ingredients to meet this moment in animation at Hulu, and we’re so thankful to be having those conversations alongside this talented group.”

‘King of the Hill’ Revival Officially a Go at Hulu (THR)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:31:02pm

I really don’t like Substack. Substack is a bad place. Bad things go on there.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:31:44pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I really don’t like Substack. Substack is a bad place. Bad things go on there.

I thought Substack was the home of conspiracy theorists and general undesirables (and Popehat, apparently, though I don’t know if he still uses it).

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:42:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:44:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:44:35pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:48:30pm

52 inches of snow in two days at the Jackson Hole ski area. Yegads…

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:49:15pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

I told Mrs. Fish, Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett should win some kind of award for that episode. I haven’t actually cried at a TV show in a long time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:50:53pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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I can’t do all ofthe subscriptions. I’ve missed out on a lot of American culture in the last 10-15 years.

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William Lewis  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:58:23pm

Right now, I have Prime, so I’m watching the Legend of Vox Machina’s second season. When it’s done in a couple of weeks, I’ll probably pause Prime so I can afford a month or two of Paramount + to be able to watch the last season of Picard.

I have no doubt about the quality of TLOU but HBO is not in my budget.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 6:59:35pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Right now, I have Prime, so I’m watching the Legend of Vox Machina’s second season. When it’s done in a couple of weeks, I’ll probably pause Prime so I can afford a month or two of Paramount + to be able to watch the last season of Picard.

I have no doubt about the quality of TLOU but HBO is not in my budget.

HBO makes great quality stuff, but it is expensive. I pay for the months where a show I’m interested in is being released, and then I shut it off again until they make another thing I want. Chernobyl was the last show they made that I got HBO for.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:00:01pm

Did warranty work at the ski shop today. Dude, a few of these broken bindings absolutely baffle me. HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!?

People are finding out you can’t get super low on a telemark turn with our binding, these are not the cable bindings of yore. Some persist, and they bend their toe cages. Old techniques clashing with the new technology. I see it over and over.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:05:18pm

re: #12 TedStriker

FYI: Russell Morash, director of Julia Child’s The French Chef and producer of This Old House, The New Yankee Workshop, and The Victory Garden, announced a couple of weeks ago that full episodes of The New Yankee Workshop, out of production since 2009, are now being put on The New Yankee Workshop’s YT channel.

My dad used to watch The New Yankee Workshop and This Old House all the time on Saturdays (when WDCN/WNPT, our PBS affiliate, showed them) and I’ve been a Norm Abram fanboy ever since.

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Norm is one of those people whose is so skilled at his craft, he makes you believe that you can recreate what he’s building. In some sense, that’s probably true but its much more than just sawing some boards and applying some stain. It also doesn’t hurt that he has access to nearly every wood working tool in existence and he knows how to use them.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:11:26pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

They make it sound like the entire country is drowning. The severely affected area is the top third of the North Island (Te Ika-a-Māui) which just happens to include the city of Auckland, home to about a third of the population. So yeah, a big deal, but.

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The Other Story, the one that’s been missed because of all the excitement up north, was the interisland ferry Kaitaki losing power on approach to the Wellington Harbour heads and drifting to about half a mile of the (rocky) shore before being able to anchor and get her engines restarted. 800 passengers and 80 crew. In 1968, the ferry TEV Wahine struck a reef at the entrance to the harbour in foul weather with the loss of 52 lives. The weather was not so dangerous this time, but once is enough, thank you very much.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:12:28pm

TweetDeck still shows *how* the tweet was posted (Twitter Web Page, Twitter for iPhone, TweetDeck, Sidetoolz, and the now defunct TweetBot and others). Elmu got rid of that on the main site.

Something’s going on here.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:16:10pm

re: #66 electrotek

Can these Vietnam War vets give it a rest about “Hanoi Jane” already? They like to beat dead horses. They cry more about her than they do about Lt. William Calley.

Them and my mom, who has a nasty tendency of trying to be a veteran by proxy that gets annoying.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:16:54pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

TweetDeck still shows *how* the tweet was posted (Twitter Web Page, Twitter for iPhone, TweetDeck, Sidetoolz, and the now defunct TweetBot and others). Elmu got rid of that on the main site.

Something’s going on here.

The data is probably still there on the backend, Elno just turned it off on the frontend. Same with Twitter Blue vs. legacy blue.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:17:44pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

I remember people complaining about Elon wanting to do that on Twitter.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:19:04pm

re: #74 Crush White Nationalism

Looks like they’re dropping Luanne rather than bringing in a new voice actor. She was voiced by Brittany Murphey.

‘King of the Hill’ Revival Officially a Go at Hulu (THR)

Both Brittany and Tom Petty are dead. The show can just have them move off to another state.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:20:17pm

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

The data is probably still there on the backend, Elno just turned it off on the frontend. Same with Twitter Blue vs. legacy blue.

Kind of bolsters my wacky theory that Elmu *doesn’t even know* about TweetDeck.

The main site has been falling apart like a cheap suit, I see it *in tweets on TweetDeck* from all kinds of accounts I follow. TweetDeck just kind of hums along. It’s rather weird.

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A Cranky One  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:31:25pm

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:48:15pm
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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 7:58:05pm
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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 8:04:06pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 31, 2023 • 8:14:59pm

re: #92 Belafon

Both Brittany and Tom Petty are dead. The show can just have them move off to another state.

I would much prefer that than different voice actors. It sucks that people die but we have to deal with it.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 8:16:53pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2023 • 8:41:32pm

re: #99 Captain Ron

So did a bunch of other private companies for that matter.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:27:39pm

re: #96 Captain Ron

[Embedded content]

The people who bitch the loudest about “CANCEL CULTURE!!!” and claim they’re for “FREEZE PEACH!!!” are the ones supporting felony charges for teachers who have a book about two male penguins raising a chick on their classroom’s bookshelf.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:29:02pm

Last year I had to pay $210 for 100 tablets of Tradjenta an anti diabetic pill.

The last refill I only had to pay $40 thanks to Joe Biden.

I just reordered it…and I will have to pay…ZERO THANKS TO JOE BIDEN.

The next time I hear an asshole like the one Mama Maxine smacked down today I will reply that for too long America has had Socialism For The Rich…and it’s time that everyone gets their fair share of Socialism…and it’s time that the Rich pony up and pay their fair share of taxes.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:36:57pm

re: #66 electrotek

Can these Vietnam War vets give it a rest about “Hanoi Jane” already? They like to beat dead horses. They cry more about her than they do about Lt. William Calley.

To which Vietnam vets are you referring? The 80s called, they want their demonizing bullshit generalizations back.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:37:53pm

is the artist blind? On drugs? brain dead?

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:40:31pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

is the artist blind? On drugs? brain dead?

[Embedded content]

Absolutely.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:40:33pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

Well when you put a fat face with sagging jowls on a liposuctioned body…and that lower arm is fat enough to be included in a Swanson Fried Chicken TV dinner…

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:43:08pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF is that supposed to be? President Louie Anderson?

That’s a good laugh. “Artist” my ass.

Back later…off to work.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:43:23pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

is the artist blind? On drugs? brain dead?

Pretty confident it’s a parody and Brigitte walked right into it.

He looks like he’s about to shoot up.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:44:06pm

re: #108 Grunthos the Flatulent

Pretty confident it’s a parody. Brigitte walked right into it.

Perhaps she is also blind, on drugs, brain dead.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:45:53pm

re: #109 retired cynic

Oh, Brigitte? All bets are off.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:46:52pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:48:31pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:48:34pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

Gary’s profile on THE BIRD

Patriot. Bible Reader. Mall Santa. I like WOMEN! Bass player for our church band Shifty Nelson & The Dixieland Scooters, who puts America First.

Just another reason to avoid stepping into a church…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:51:22pm

re: #66 electrotek

Can these Vietnam War vets give it a rest about “Hanoi Jane” already? They like to beat dead horses. They cry more about her than they do about Lt. William Calley.

They haven’t let up on Jimmy Carter for the past 45 years.

Even when Jane is dead for 100 years Republicans will still attack her.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 31, 2023 • 9:51:54pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

I agree 100%

Same same for Harry Nillsson.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:04:36pm

re: #115 Egregious Philbin

I agree 100%

Same same for Harry Nillsson.

It might have something to do with this…

YouTube

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:04:54pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon

They haven’t let up on Jimmy Carter for the past 45 years.

Even when Jane is dead for 100 years Republicans will still attack her.

They haven’t let up on FDR. Hell, I know a repug who will rant about J.P. Morgan and Jekyll Island (alleged orgin of the Federal Reserve) at the slightest provocation.

Btw, I do not cry about Jane Fonda *yawn* and I’m pretty sure John Kerry and Al Gore (fellow Vietnam vets) don’t either.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:11:46pm

re: #116 Captain Ron

It might have something to do with this…

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When it comes to Harry I believe this is the real reason why he’s been excluded from the HOF!

NSFW!

Harry Nilsson - You’re Breakin’ My Heart (Audio)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:14:44pm

re: #113 Joe Bacon

Gary’s profile on THE BIRD

Patriot. Bible Reader. Mall Santa. I like WOMEN! Bass player for our church band Shifty Nelson & The Dixieland Scooters, who puts America First.

Just another reason to avoid stepping into a church…

I think it’s a parody account. Several commenters made that same assertion, though others were less certain.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:16:35pm

Hanan’s real post:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:21:49pm

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Hanan’s real post:

[Embedded content]

Reading further in Gary Peterson’s timeline —- satire all the way.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:44:18pm

re: #113 Joe Bacon

Gary’s profile on THE BIRD

Patriot. Bible Reader. Mall Santa. I like WOMEN! Bass player for our church band Shifty Nelson & The Dixieland Scooters, who puts America First.

Just another reason to avoid stepping into a church…

That just reads like major parody.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:49:27pm

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Hanan’s real post:

I feel sorry for that woman. She probably feels like she needs to thank Trump after she masturbates.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:50:29pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

is the artist blind? On drugs? brain dead?

All of ‘em, Katie!

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:55:37pm

Mmm, down to 38F here in the bay area.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:56:16pm

re: #124 darthstar

All of ‘em, Katie!

I take it back…he’s fuckin’ funny.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:57:51pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

I think it’s a parody account. Several commenters made that same assertion, though others were less certain.

It took them long enough…his feed is hilarious.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:58:27pm

re: #49 Captain Ron

[Embedded content]

They always hope for riots because they can use those to sell their “SCARY BLACK PEOPLE WANT A RACE WAR!!!” narrative to the brain dead masses. Easier to sell people on the idea that “DEMS ARE LETTING THIS COUNTRY SINK INTO HELL!!!” when they can show pictures of burning buildings or riot cops arresting guys in makeshift masks.

They have no use for peaceful protests, hard to convince people to be scared of peaceful crowds marching down the street or standing outside government buildings while holding picket signs. When that’s all they got, they’re left defending the cops who are on video beating and shooting unarmed people with no justification other than “They didn’t do what they were told.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2023 • 10:59:03pm

re: #125 Captain Ron

Mmm, down to 38F here in the bay area.

down to 4F in Chicago’s northern suburbs.

OT — Double Par for Wednesday

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:03:05pm

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

I got letterle in 13!
Letterle 13/26












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edjefferson.com
26 guesses. Nobody’s a loser.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:03:26pm

YouTube

I still love China Forbes and Storm Large.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:04:32pm

re: #65 Dangerman

This is childish, amateur level philosophy masquerading as deep thought

It doesn’t even make sense

Welcome to the world of Christian apologia.

This is an attempt to remove “God” from the apologetic that says:

a) Objective morality is true.
b) There can be no objective morality without someone imposing it from the outside.
c) God is outside space and time.
d) Because he is God, his morality is universal and necessarily true.

re: #33 Belafon

Quoting an apologist on Twitter:

Morality is a value system, so it’s more or less moral based on an outside Standard. If there is no outside Standard, then morality is logically a subjective illusion.

There can’t be an OUTSIDE standard if you’re pointing to society, & btw societies judge very differently.

Substitute “outside standard” with “God” and you have the same argument.

The apologetic assumes human societies cannot figure out on their own things which promote the well-being of its members and hold those who do not hold up society’s standards to account. They must have a benevolent dictator who is outside to impose a standard on everyone.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:04:38pm

re: #130 darthstar

And it changes every time you play it. 23 on my second try!

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:07:08pm

Thinking about starting a new site called Numeral. Pick a number between 0 and 9. But you only get four guesses.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:08:34pm

Okay…sleepy time. Don’t be a dick while I’m gone.

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:10:09pm

YouTube

The best of Pink Martini, almost 11 hrs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:10:26pm

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

down to 4F in Chicago’s northern suburbs.

We’re in a warming trend in the Nebraska Panhandle. Currently it’s +1°F / -17°Commie.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:14:17pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon

Oh look, I got Hillary to read your post!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:15:04pm

AI will be the end of us.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:15:15pm

re: #135 darthstar

Okay…sleepy time. Don’t be a dick while I’m gone.

I make no promises.

/

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Captain Ron  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:16:44pm

re: #136 Captain Ron

[Embedded content]

Video

The best of Pink Martini, almost 11 hrs.

Everything they perform qualifies as best of…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:22:12pm

Oops, forgot the image, so here’s the new version:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:45:29pm

I still find it difficult to insert an index card between Republicans and Libertarians, except Libertarians like to smoke weed.

Republicans, Don’t Alienate the Atheists (Colin Wright’s blog Reality’s Last Stand)

Mr. Wright is an evolutionary biologist, and editor for the Australian libertarian outlet Quillette. He writes stuff like this:

The article from his blog is about Tucker Carlson on the “Charlie Kirk Show” where Mr. Carlson says his tolerance for atheists has dwindled to nothing.

Mr. Wright writes:

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, Carlson’s statement that his “tolerance for atheism has really dwindled to nothing at this point” is a divisive blunder at a time when the Right can’t electorally afford it. There are many atheists—myself included—who have been alienated from the Left by the religious dogmatism of woke ideology, who have serious reservations about the Right, and yet are still poised to vote Republican for the first time ever in the next election. Making this group feel even more alienated and politically homeless than they currently do is a major misstep.

Republicans alienated atheists long ago. Their insistence on Christian supremacy ensures there is no room for atheists in the GOP tent. We might not be first on their list to push out of society, but for decades we know we’re on that list.

The Left’s historic appeal in the United States has largely rested on their ability to form a coalition of voters across a wide swath of diverse Americans by speaking to kitchen table and civil rights issues. But over the last decade that model has been increasingly abandoned. The Left’s adoption of woke ideologies has resulted in the complete desertion of their commitments to free speech and ideological diversity in favor of censorship and the superficial appearance of diversity rooted in skin color and an ever-expanding list purportedly “oppressed” intersecting identities.

Sound and fury, signifying nothing. The entire paragraph is horseshyte, especially the “woke ideology” crap.

Kirk’s and Carlson’s statements will not influence my vote. I’ve stated openly that I plan to vote Republican in the next election. But that may not be the case for many centrist atheists searching for a political home.

Let them in.

The GOP will not do this. We’re barely acceptable to the Democratic Party. The GOP wants to repress our rights. There’s a reason you feel so alone in the GOP, Mr. Wright.

One thing atheism doesn’t do is confer the ability to reason why things are what they are. Mr. Carlson very much represents the state of the GOP vis atheists. Good luck trying to change that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 31, 2023 • 11:57:47pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:07:27am

re: #102 Joe Bacon

Oh look, Ian reads Joe Bacon too!

whyp.it

If that link does not work try this one: sndup.net

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:11:43am

Libertarians are wilding again.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:14:09am

Let’s see if this works:

Iframe

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:21:24am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pol Pot would be quite proud.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:26:47am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even if I didn’t have a picture of the guy, I’d have been able to guess his race just by listening to him whine:

The Left’s historic appeal in the United States has largely rested on their ability to form a coalition of voters across a wide swath of diverse Americans by speaking to kitchen table and civil rights issues. But over the last decade that model has been increasingly abandoned. The Left’s adoption of woke ideologies has resulted in the complete desertion of their commitments to free speech and ideological diversity in favor of censorship and the superficial appearance of diversity rooted in skin color and an ever-expanding list purportedly “oppressed” intersecting identities.

You run into these asswipes fairly frequently these days, whiny white brogressives who will go on at length about how they’ve left the party because it’s no longer begging for their votes and offering them all sorts of “free” stuff. And that the party is adopting “woke ideology,” i.e. acknowledging the reality of racial/ethical/sexual/etc relations in the US instead of pushing all that to the side to cater to the wants of white voters.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:28:05am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians are wilding again.

[Embedded content]

Next up: Getting rid of “Jewish influences” to fulfill the Fuhrer’s demands for an “Aryan education.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 12:52:03am

Bad jokes which didn’t make it on Seth Meyer’s show. (9:43)

Seth Holds a Surprise Inspection of His Monologue Writers in January 2023

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 1, 2023 • 1:12:51am
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 1, 2023 • 1:20:33am

It’s a Wordle and it’s late here, so it’s Today’s Wordle.

Indications are that birbies will be in short supply.

Wordle 592 4/6

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SibData: 4,4,4,5,6

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2023 • 1:22:09am

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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The face of a man who is out of fucks to give.

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 1:30:04am

re: #154 Grunthos the Flatulent

It’s a Wordle and it’s late here, so it’s Today’s Wordle.

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In my supply of shorts:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 2:18:08am

re: #156 wrenchwench

In my supply of shorts:

Fail: Know too many five-letter words. It didn’t help getting the second letter on the first guess.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 2:45:36am

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

is the artist blind? On drugs? brain dead?

[Embedded content]

He’s trolling Trumpers.

ETA: Sorry. Posted before reading thread and seeing numerous others have noted same.

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TarHellion  Feb 1, 2023 • 2:50:24am

Getting the first letter on the second guess made reaching Birbie-ville easier. More rain today and tomorrow - after a steady light rain yesterday. Finished up a sizeable grant application Tuesday. Now a chance to catch up on other paperwork, etc. A great day/evening to all!

Wordle 592 3/6*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 2:57:36am

re: #9 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

AI is the end of society.

It will turn things on their heads. Children will be taught at home by chat bots and come to school only to write their exams and papers under personal supervision in a room shielded from outside communication.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 2:59:49am

re: #14 Dopamine Fish

No, there’s nothing copyrightable about your voice. You’d have to rely on laws against identity theft or impersonation for that. Certain specific catch phrases and the like may be the subject of trademarks, however.

Then there was the famous case of Bill Wyman, a music critic from Ohio, receiving a cease and desist notice from former Rolling Stone Bill Wyman (whose real name is actually William George Perks).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:01:07am

We’re going to have to put up with this lunacy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:02:59am

Oh look, it’s February.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:07:18am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The outside dictator of morality is important to their power structure since it is their basis for claiming to the be sole true interpreters of his will - and thus the only group deserving of power, privilege, and in turn dictating what anyone else does or gets.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:13:15am

re: #164 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The outside dictator of morality is important to their power structure since it is their basis for claiming to the be sole true interpreters of his will - and thus the only group deserving of power, privilege, and in turn dictating what anyone else does or gets.

And who decides what that “outside dictator of morality” thinks?

It’s all awfully convenient

//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:16:28am

re: #165 Dangerman

And who decides what that “outside dictator of morality” thinks?

It’s all awfully convenient

//

Thus the obvious opposition to education and anything regarding critical thinking. It’s also nice to have contradictory holy texts that can be cherry-picked to back any chosen position. Such as always having been at war with Eastasia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:17:53am

We need morality dictated from outside as we seem to be unable to figure it out on our own

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:26:29am

re: #163 Shropshire Slasher

Oh look, it’s February.

So it is. (Shamelessly promoting my new page off your post.)

February Flag Observances

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:27:42am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re going to have to put up with this lunacy.

[Embedded content]

That bloody shirt ain’t gonna wave itself.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:28:05am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:28:26am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We need morality dictated from outside as we seem to be unable to figure it out on our own

Which, in turn, leads to stuff like missionaries.

I attended a Christmas dinner and was sitting next to an elderly retired couple who I got into conversation with. They are very picky about who they allow their investment money to go to in terms of corporate behavior, etc. etc. (I didn’t ask them what they thought of Disney, perhaps I should have.)

They also give money to religious foundations which are trying to translate the Bible into as many languages as possible so that the Word can them be distributed to the natives everywhere. Their money and their prerogative on how to spend it. I personally find it a bit culturally distasteful since it’s really egocentric to think that other cultures might not have ever thought about ethics and worked out their own systems for building a cooperative society.

Which starts getting into the wormhole of whether any particular ethic or behavior is absolute or should absolutely be curbed. By force if necessary. And also taps into that spot that the apologists claim is where atheism is coming from. (No true moral ground.)

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:35:09am

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Here’s my take on missionaries: It’s all well and good, if there’s no coercion involved. I, for one, welcome any chance to increase our ability to communicate with native peoples with whom few, if any, white people have had any contact, as long as they’re amenable to opening the exchange. My concern, of course, is the spread of militant evangelical white nationalism, but in general, those sorts aren’t really the ones going outside the country to preach the gospel to “others”. Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with wanting to preach a belief system to people who aren’t familiar with the particulars, as long as they’re free to say, “No, we’re quite good as we are, fuck you very much.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:35:40am

I’ve posted eighty-nine LGF pages. Eleven more and I get Mr. Johnson’s award for reaching one hundred. /s

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:37:02am

Bang. There’s a birbie.

Wordle 592 3/6

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:38:42am

re: #172 Dopamine Fish

Here’s my take on missionaries: It’s all well and good, if there’s no coercion involved. I, for one, welcome any chance to increase our ability to communicate with native peoples with whom few, if any, white people have had any contact, as long as they’re amenable to opening the exchange. My concern, of course, is the spread of militant evangelical white nationalism, but in general, those sorts aren’t really the ones going outside the country to preach the gospel to “others”. Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with wanting to preach a belief system to people who aren’t familiar with the particulars, as long as they’re free to say, “No, we’re quite good as we are, fuck you very much.”

It seems Christian missionaries get quite upset when someone tries to bring anything other than Christianity to the USA (look at Dixie states right now for their “war on yoga in schools”).

And if a society doesn’t want missionaries? I’m fine with the North Sentinel Island treatment. Missionaries bringing in diseases others haven’t been exposed to, like the aforementioned island or places like natives in the Amazon rain forest? Nope. Missionaries can keep their disease at home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:39:27am

re: #172 Dopamine Fish

Here’s my take on missionaries: It’s all well and good, if there’s no coercion involved.

A lot of Fundmentalist missionary work in Africa supports and is supported by oppressive regimes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:40:21am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of Fundmentalist missionary work in Africa supports and is supported by oppressive regimes.

Uganda’s “kill the gays” bill was sponsored by our homegrown wingnut Christians.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:40:28am

re: #172 Dopamine Fish

Here’s my take on missionaries: It’s all well and good, if there’s no coercion involved. I, for one, welcome any chance to increase our ability to communicate with native peoples with whom few, if any, white people have had any contact, as long as they’re amenable to opening the exchange. My concern, of course, is the spread of militant evangelical white nationalism, but in general, those sorts aren’t really the ones going outside the country to preach the gospel to “others”. Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with wanting to preach a belief system to people who aren’t familiar with the particulars, as long as they’re free to say, “No, we’re quite good as we are, fuck you very much.”

Which is the ideal. Opening up a better exchange of ideas.

The historical outcome of this has been much much spottier. Plus all too many cases where a charitable service directly ties itself to the evangelical work; e.g. If you want a meal you also have to attend service. Which starts down another whole slippery slope.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:41:18am

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It seems Christian missionaries get quite upset when someone tries to bring anything other than Christianity to the USA (look at Dixie states right now for their “war on yoga in schools”).

And if a society doesn’t want missionaries? I’m fine with the North Sentinel Island treatment. Missionaries bringing in diseases others haven’t been exposed to, like the aforementioned island or places like natives in the Amazon rain forest? Nope. Missionaries can keep their disease at home.

You know me: I’m the kind of guy who welcomes the Jehovah’s Witnesses into my home and has a rational discussion with them. I don’t care if others want to proselytize us, because I understand, from their point of view, they think about us the way us Christians think about them. The people who get butthurt about it are the sort of fragile Christian snowflakes who believe we have to legislate Christian morality or else the whole fabric of civilization will unravel itself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:42:51am

re: #178 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Which is the ideal. Opening up a better exchange of ideas.

The historical outcome of this has been much much spottier. Plus all too many cases where a charitable service directly ties itself to the evangelical work; e.g. If you want a meal you also have to attend service. Which starts down another whole slippery slope.

Plus Christianity is the world’s largest religion. It is in nearly every country. Why is missionary work needed? There are very few places where people haven’t heard of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:43:09am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Uganda’s “kill the gays” bill was sponsored by our homegrown wingnut Christians.

exactly

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:43:14am

re: #178 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Which is the ideal. Opening up a better exchange of ideas.

The historical outcome of this has been much much spottier. Plus all too many cases where a charitable service directly ties itself to the evangelical work; e.g. If you want a meal you also have to attend service. Which starts down another whole slippery slope.

Yes, I’m well aware. I’ve known some good, kind, gentle missionaries who exemplify Christian ideals. I’ve also known some missionaries that, well… I question the genuineness of their “calling”. They really have no business trying to preach the gospel to a paper bag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:45:23am

The Catholic church had a practice of simply reassigning priests who had been involved in any sort of sexual molestation or abuse to another parish.

And repeat offenders were simply sent off to somewhere in the Third World where nobody would find out about it…

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:46:48am

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus Christianity is the world’s largest religion. It is in nearly every country. Why is missionary work needed? There are very few places where people haven’t heard of it.

Funnily enough, it actually ties into a bit of the wingnut religion there. Jesus spoke several times about “the end”, a rather vague term that Saint John the Apostle clarified at length in his Book of Revelation, but one of the things he said about it was: “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” The Christians, by and large, take this literally, and so the work of missionaries is to try to reach every last living soul (or community, at least) so that the prophecy may be fulfilled.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:47:33am

Magnitude 5.2 earthquake near Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

earthquake.usgs.gov

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:49:11am

re: #179 Dopamine Fish

You know me: I’m the kind of guy who welcomes the Jehovah’s Witnesses into my home and has a rational discussion with them. I don’t care if others want to proselytize us, because I understand, from their point of view, they think about us the way us Christians think about them. The people who get butthurt about it are the sort of fragile Christian snowflakes who believe we have to legislate Christian morality or else the whole fabric of civilization will unravel itself.

I am still amused by the freakout when the Lousiana legislature passed something to finance religious schools and then a madrasa applied for a grant.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:50:25am

re: #186 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I am still amused by the freakout when the Lousiana legislature passed something to finance religious schools and then a madrasa applied for a grant.

Christians: “To promote the right of every parent to indoctrinate their child into their religious beliefs, we’re passing this bill to finance schools associated with religious institutions.”
Muslims: “K, cool, can we have some money?”
Christians: “NOT LIKE THAT”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:52:33am

re: #187 Dopamine Fish

Christians: “To promote the right of every parent to indoctrinate their child into their religious beliefs, we’re passing this bill to finance schools associated with religious institutions.”
Muslims: “K, cool, can we have some money?”
Christians: “NOT LIKE THAT”

For a religion that talks about “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” they also seem to often want to get their hands on some of those tax funds for themselves.
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:53:49am
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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:54:22am

Some good news. I think all this talk about a hard landing aren’t true. McDonald’s has always been a harbinger of economic activity, like Waffle House for hurricanes.

Higher menu prices and customer visits boosted McDonald’s Corp quarterly profit and sales above Wall Street estimates on Tuesday, but shares fell when the burger chain warned inflation will weigh on margins in 2023.

Shares of the burger chain fell about 2.6% to $263.84 in U.S. trading, after gaining about 6% in the last 12 months.

Investors are watching bellwethers like McDonald’s for any signs its customers are paring back spending. Consumer demand is key to determining whether the Federal Reserve’s monetary tightening will help cool the U.S. economy without causing a recession.

news.yahoo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:56:41am

re: #184 Dopamine Fish

The Christians, by and large, take this literally, and so the work of missionaries is to try to reach every last living soul (or community, at least) so that the prophecy may be fulfilled.

And that is the basis for their support of Israel: not out of any concern for Jews or Judaism, but to fulfill conditions for the End Times Prophecies and help kick-start Armageddon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:57:55am

re: #188 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

For a religion that talks about “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” they also seem to often want to get their hands on some of those tax funds for themselves.
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It is taken for granted that

a) America is a CHRISTIAN nation and
b) Islam is a not a religion but a political system

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 3:59:29am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that is the basis for their support of Israel: not out of any concern for Jews or Judaism, but to fulfill conditions for the End Times Prophecies and help kick-start Armageddon.

Precisely.

Myself, I ascribe more to the philosophy that the End Times prophecies - if they are literal at all - will take care of themselves, and I’m in no hurry to hasten them along. If I should live to see Armageddon, great; if not, well, I’ll get a ringside seat to whatever happens, if anything. God doesn’t need me to be a sweaty tryhard to bring about the end.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:01:35am

re: #193 Dopamine Fish

Precisely.

Myself, I ascribe more to the philosophy that the End Times prophecies - if they are literal at all - will take care of themselves, and I’m in no hurry to hasten them along. If I should live to see Armageddon, great; if not, well, I’ll get a ringside seat to whatever happens, if anything. God doesn’t need me to be a sweaty tryhard to bring about the end.

Don’t you delight at the thought of seeing the non-believers being cast into the Lake of Fire while you rejoice with the Righteous?

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:01:55am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t you delight at the thought of seeing the non-believers being cast into the Lake of Fire while you rejoice with the Righteous?

No, because I am not a psychopath.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:04:51am

Wow, Texas shut down over a little ice.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:06:00am

re: #196 Shropshire Slasher

Wow, Texas shut down over a little ice.

“A little ice?” Tell me you’re being sarcastic.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:08:12am

re: #197 Dopamine Fish

“A little ice?” Tell me you’re being sarcastic.

Being a Upstate New Yorker, yes, sarcasm is my aim. We roads that have a thicker layer of salt than that ice.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:08:20am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t you delight at the thought of seeing the non-believers being cast into the Lake of Fire while you rejoice with the Righteous?

I’m sure my family does.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:08:32am

15 F out this morning. I guess the snow on my car is not going to melt itself.

Will probably just go sweep off what I can and let the morning sun melt the windshield clear.

Looks like clear and cold for the next couple of days. Which is, to me, preferred winter weather over gray and just over freezing temps.

Floof Cat has shifted to her “it’s cold” napping place. Nestled on a throw in a chair where there is some morning sun and not quite in the direct flow of the heat vent in that room. (A bit colder and she shifts onto the down comforter on the bed.)

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:09:15am

re: #198 Shropshire Slasher

Being a Upstate New Yorker, yes, sarcasm is my aim. We roads that have a thicker layer of salt than that ice.

Yes, and as you know, New York is equipped to handle that. Texas isn’t.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:10:31am

re: #198 Shropshire Slasher

Being a Upstate New Yorker, yes, sarcasm is my aim. We roads that have a thicker layer of salt than that ice.

Where I was growing up in northern NY they did not use road salt at all since the mean temps were often too cold for it to work. They would plow the road clear, but not necessarily down to pavement, while spreading sand for the most part. By the end of winter one was driving upon a 3-4” layer of ice/sand mix on most of the residential roads in the village.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:12:26am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

Yes, and as you know, New York is equipped to handle that. Texas isn’t.

I wouldn’t think you would defend Texas, but ok.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:12:55am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

Yes, and as you know, New York is equipped to handle that. Texas isn’t.

And the “isn’t” is a mix of economics* and outright criminal apathy about the situation.

* - Some attention being paid to the costs of storing/maintaining the equipment and a meaningful supply of de-icer and related materials. Though Texas does have enough wintry weather they should give it more attention than say, Atlanta.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:17:25am

re: #204 Shropshire Slasher

I wouldn’t think you would defend Texas, but ok.

I’m all in favor of bashing states for things they deserve. This isn’t one of them. As pointed out above, Texas doesn’t have a general need to keep the kinds of sophisticated winter repellents that, say, New York or Minnesota does. Could they have been more prepared for this storm specifically? Maybe; probably not, given the lead times involved in weather forecasting. Most Texans I know would probably be more upset if the state spent millions of dollars on snowplows and road salt that they only used in significant amounts once or twice in a decade than by being inconvenienced by one significant winter storm in that time period.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:18:51am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m sure my family does.

“We lived a miserable, repressed life for fear of God’s wrath. Finally glad to see all those people who had fun finally getting their just deserts!”

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:19:10am

re: #205 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And the “isn’t” is a mix of economics* and outright criminal apathy about the situation.

* - Some attention being paid to the costs of storing/maintaining the equipment and a meaningful supply of de-icer and related materials. Though Texas does have enough wintry weather they should give it more attention than say, Atlanta.

I am sure Texas gets money from the federal government to keep the interstate open during winter. I could be wrong.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:21:00am

re: #196 Shropshire Slasher

Might get lucky. I don’t drive on sheet ice with street tires. I’ll drive on snow all day long but this ice is a no no. Straight to the ditch….
Might get lucky to get a flake.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:22:31am

re: #206 Dopamine Fish

I’m all in favor of bashing states for things they deserve. This isn’t one of them. As pointed out above, Texas doesn’t have a general need to keep the kinds of sophisticated winter repellents that, say, New York or Minnesota does. Could they have been more prepared for this storm specifically? Maybe; probably not, given the lead times involved in weather forecasting. Most Texans I know would probably be more upset if the state spent millions of dollars on snowplows and road salt that they only used in significant amounts once or twice in a decade than by being inconvenienced by one significant winter storm in that time period.

Flipside is looking at the ongoing costs of storm hardening their power and water systems. Along with some investment in a decent emergency response to fixing these systems. And since their power system is their own grid the failures of it are their own and solely their own.

With the associated blood money which their power utilities get by not hardening and simply allowing people to die due to power failures during winter weather.*

* - Which one can pile onto all the performative Christian piety by the leaders in Texas. Money uber alles since it’s not them and their political donors who are dying.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:22:35am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

Might get lucky. I don’t drive on sheet ice with street tires. I’ll drive on snow all day long but this ice is a no no. Straight to the ditch….
Might get lucky to get a flake.

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Yeah, what you guys are getting down there is stuff I wouldn’t fuck with, even up here with all the fancy-schmancy crowdsource-named snowplows we have. It can snow until the cows come home, and I’ll be out there with my little snowblower and snow shovel and yelling at Old Man Winter to go fuck himself sideways; but sleet, well, that’s staying home weather.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:24:33am

re: #210 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Flipside is looking at the ongoing costs of storm hardening their power and water systems. Along with some investment in a decent emergency response to fixing these systems. And since their power system is their own grid the failures of it are their own and solely their own.

With the associated blood money which their power utilities get by not hardening and simply allowing people to die due to power failures during winter weather.*

* - Which one can pile onto all the performative Christian piety by the leaders in Texas. Money uber alles since it’s not them and their political donors who are dying.

Yeah, the utilities stuff is a horse of a different color. I can totally understand Texas not spending their federal highway dollars on extensive winterization efforts, because while it does get cold-ish down there sometimes, it very rarely snows or sleets in significant enough amounts to cause these problems. But it seems like cold snaps that cause power outages are becoming more commonplace as climate change marches on, and that’s where Texas is falling down on the job.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:25:09am

re: #211 Dopamine Fish

Yeah, what you guys are getting down there is stuff I wouldn’t fuck with, even up here with all the fancy-schmancy crowdsource-named snowplows we have. It can snow until the cows come home, and I’ll be out there with my little snowblower and snow shovel and yelling at Old Man Winter to go fuck himself sideways; but sleet, well, that’s staying home weather.

Concur. Ice/sleet storm means I stay home.

I generally stay in for the snow as well. I know I can drive in it. I believe a majority of the other drivers in this area are nowhere near as capable. And given the hilly terrain when things get bad in a spot they get very bad quickly.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:27:47am

Is should be 75, just sayin’. I believe most of the interstate was designed for 65 mph speed limit, so there probably aren’t too many places this would happen.

New York could join 41 other states by raising its speed limit to 70 mph on the Thruway and other state highways.

State Sen. Tom O’Mara introduced a bill that would allow the state Department of Transportation and Thruway Authority to increase the maximum speed limit from 65 to 70 mph.

The speed limit for most of the Thruway consisting of interstates 87 and 90 is 65 mph. Other state highways, including a portion of Route 5 near Syracuse, also have 65 mph speed limits. On state-owned roads, there are reduced speed limits in densely populated areas.

The 65 mph speed limit has been in effect since 1995 when then-Gov. George Pataki signed legislation increasing it from 55 mph. At that time, New York was the 44th state to raise its speed limit to 65 mph.

auburnpub.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:28:21am

I mentioned the sleet sandwich that finally prompted me to move from the Midwest to Arizona in 1978: 4” of sleet topped by 4” of snow and then capped by 4” of sleet…shut the Chicago area down for a week with temps down to -28°F.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:30:06am

re: #214 Shropshire Slasher

Is should be 75, just sayin’. I believe most of the interstate was designed for 65 mph speed limit, so there probably aren’t too many places this would happen.

Armed Forces Network in Germany regularly broadcasts public service messages reminding GI’s that although German Autobahns have stretches with no speed limit, most American cars are not designed for it: they might have the power under the hood, but not the steering or suspension.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:30:34am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I mentioned the sleet sandwich that finally prompted me to move from the Midwest to Arizona in 1978: 4” of sleet topped by 4” of snow and then capped by 4” of sleet…shut the Chicago area down for a week with temps down to -28°F.

Yep, that tracks. Sleet sandwiches are fairly common here, though I can’t say as I’ve seen a whole 4” of sleet fall at one time. When I stick my shovel into the snow and I can literally hear it crackling as I lift, I know I’m in for a bad time.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:30:38am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I mentioned the sleet sandwich that finally prompted me to move from the Midwest to Arizona in 1978: 4” of sleet topped by 4” of snow and then capped by 4” of sleet…shut the Chicago area down for a week with temps down to -28°F.

It’s what moved us to Phoenix in ‘67. Dad had one leg and suffered one fall to many in Wheaton.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:43:01am

re: #218 Dave In Austin

It’s what moved us to Phoenix in ‘67. Dad had one leg and suffered one fall to many in Wheaton.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:44:40am

re: #214 Shropshire Slasher

Is should be 75, just sayin’. I believe most of the interstate was designed for 65 mph speed limit, so there probably aren’t too many places this would happen.

auburnpub.com

I recall interstate speed limit of 70 mph back in the 1970s before the push down to 55 mph as a gasoline economy measure. Thus large stretches are probably already engineered to handle 70-75 I expect.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:49:07am

re: #203 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Where I was growing up in northern NY they did not use road salt at all since the mean temps were often too cold for it to work. They would plow the road clear, but not necessarily down to pavement, while spreading sand for the most part. By the end of winter one was driving upon a 3-4” layer of ice/sand mix on most of the residential roads in the village.

That’s what we do here.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 4:52:53am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:00:38am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

My sister moved to Phoenix in 1969 and I used to go visit her on vacations and went on camping trips to Colorado, Utah, Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon, etc., which is also why I decided to relocate to the Sunny Southwest after my 19th Midwest Winters.

Also, Arizona drinking age was 19 (for beer and wine) which played a big role in my considerations…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:07:06am

Daily Beast, January 31, 2023

Kanye’s ‘Campaign’ Has Been More of a Disaster Than We Knew

Presidential contender Kanye West’s latest campaign finance report reveals that, while he’s personally spending money, no one gave a single dollar to the rapper-turned-Hitler-sympathizer all year.

The filing, which the campaign submitted on Monday to itemize its expenses over the last three months of 2022, also shows that Ye paid Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes more than $9,000 for “travel reimbursement” on the same date in November that the rapper and Fuentes dined with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, accompanied by right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos.

Fuentes told The Daily Beast on Monday afternoon that the travel expenses were “incurred by myself and the team when I relocated to LA in November to do work for Kanye 2020,” referencing the official name of Ye’s still-unofficial 2024 operation.

(more)

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:08:17am
“Donald Trump’s political operation has spent more money since he left office on lawyers representing the former president and a pair of nonprofits staffed by former Cabinet members than it has on Republican congressional campaigns,” the Washington Post reports.

do the crimes
get other people to pay for your defense
diabolically brilliant, sort of.

‘billionaire’ my ass
it’s grifts all the way down

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:10:41am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Daily Beast, January 31, 2023

Kanye’s ‘Campaign’ Has Been More of a Disaster Than We Knew

(more)

“Presidential contender Kanye West” is a stupid frame
considering the article then says it’s basically another scam

‘contender’ like pat paulsen was

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:11:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:14:34am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Daily Beast, January 31, 2023

Kanye’s ‘Campaign’ Has Been More of a Disaster Than We Knew

they cannot even get their scams straight

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:15:32am

PolitiFact had to debunk this Faceborg post.

The United States of America “no longer exists” because President Joe Biden “signed away our sovereignty as a nation.” (January 25, 2023)

If Your Time is short

President Joe Biden signed the Declaration of North America on Jan. 10 following talks with Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. It is not a legally binding document and has no bearing on U.S. sovereignty.

The declaration contains a list of broad commitments among the three countries on topics such as sustainability and migration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:17:05am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And West Germany is and has never been a sovereign nation, just a holding company formed by the Allied Occupation Forces.

Long Live the Second Reich!!!

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steve_davis  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:18:09am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

this makes me think of Keitel and Carradine in the Duellists, though granted their hair fashions didn’t involve beards. If they HAD involved beards, this would have been one of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:20:20am

re: #227 Dangerman

“Presidential contender Kanye West” is a stupid frame
considering the article then says it’s basically another scam

‘contender’ like pat paulsen was

“Sideshow/media/performance event”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:24:49am

In today’s episode of WTF (KMOV-TV, St. Louis, January 31, 2023)

ST. LOUIS (KMOV/Gray News) - One of the latest victims of carjacking in St. Louis is a church pastor.

The pastor said he is thankful to be alive after two boys, who appeared to be middle schoolers, put a gun to his face and took his van.

Surveillance video obtained by KMOV shows the incident in the parking lot of Carondelet Baptist Church in South St. Louis on Friday.

Police said the two boys didn’t get far. They hit other cars as they drove away and abandoned the van they stole just a few blocks from the church.

The pastor said he had to explain to the teens how to start the vehicle because they seemed so inexperienced.

(more)

CAUGHT ON VIDEO: St. Louis pastor carjacked at gunpoint

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:27:22am

Pueblo, Colo.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:36:31am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

PolitiFact had to debunk this Faceborg post.

The United States of America “no longer exists” because President Joe Biden “signed away our sovereignty as a nation.” (January 25, 2023)

the constitution says a president can do that?
wow.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:36:37am

On GMA they are making some soul food, shrimp and grits. Damn, I will just sit here and eat my yogurt and oatmeal and daydream.

alcenias.com
gourmetsoul.com

edited twice to add links.

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steve_davis  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:38:32am

re: #106 Joe Bacon

Well when you put a fat face with sagging jowls on a liposuctioned body…and that lower arm is fat enough to be included in a Swanson Fried Chicken TV dinner…

even worse: fat enough to be the unidentifiable piece that every swansons chicken dinner comes with. is it the neck? is it the cock’s cock? normally it doesn’t matter because all that is ever in the unidenfiable piece is overbaked breading.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:38:53am

Ozzy and Tom Brady announce their retirements. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

nypost.com
nypost.com

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:39:14am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Sideshow/media/performance event”

paulsen, yeah.

west, not even that much

and btw, if after you change your name everyone has to refer you as xxx, formerly known as…., then it didn’t work

similarly, if you can only be described by the product you sell as in xxx, the my pillow guy, you’re going nowhere

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:41:43am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

Yes, and as you know, New York is equipped to handle that. Texas isn’t.

Also, as has been discussed before, Texas ice is different than what other places get. This all started with it raining while the temps were below freezing, meaning that we don’t get the crunchy stuff that your tires can push out of the way, but an actual layer of solid ice. Then we added an inch of sleet on top of that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:44:30am

(Kan)Ye, like his friend and mentor, DFG, has seen all the abilities to use a candidacy to run a lucrative grift.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:44:32am

So this “deepfake porn” story is starting to be a worlds colliding moment, as one of the individuals involved is an incredibly popular female Twitch streamer named Pokimane. Being a beautiful streamer woman, of course the “she deserved it/asked for it” toxic masculinity chauvinists are out in force. This seems to be a case where a defamation lawsuit might actually have legs; there is potential actual damages, and for certain damages to her reputation (which is everything in the world of streaming).

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steve_davis  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:46:16am

How we see the tamarins:

How the tamarins see themselves:

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:46:19am

re: #236 Dangerman

the constitution says a president can do that?
wow.

When Trump signs it over to Russia they won’t worry about it being constitutional.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:47:38am

re: #243 Dopamine Fish

She was in Free Guy.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:48:45am

re: #246 Belafon

She was in Free Guy.

Yes, she was, along with a number of other actual legends of the streaming and YouTube community. It’s incredibly funny/cool to me that they reached out to all these real-life content creator personalities to get them into the movie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:53:12am

re: #244 steve_davis

How we see the tamarins:

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I read at the Frankfurt zoo that when the first (preserved) specimens arrived, they had their moustaches curled up like the Kaiser as nobody knew any better.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:55:09am

re: #241 Belafon

Also, as has been discussed before, Texas ice is different than what other places get. This all started with it raining while the temps were below freezing, meaning that we don’t get the crunchy stuff that your tires can push out of the way, but an actual layer of solid ice. Then we added an inch of sleet on top of that.

I would expect nothing less

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 1, 2023 • 5:57:24am

re: #239 Shropshire Slasher

Ozzy has officially retired like 9 times.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:05:12am

re: #250 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ozzy has officially retired like 9 times.

And Brady, isn’t this his second retirement? Maybe third?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:06:43am

re: #241 Belafon

Side eying the trees around the house…….

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:07:38am

Ozzy’s retiring due to declining health. After a car wreck 4 years ago, he’s been in all kinds of pain and his body can’t deal with touring.

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Thanos  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:09:17am

re: #244 steve_davis

How we see the tamarins:

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2nd pic looks like Keith Carridine from Ridley Scott’s classic “The Duelists” en.wikipedia.org

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:09:26am

The wingnut sheriff backed down.

DUPAGE COUNTY, IL — DuPage County Sheriff James Mendrick has reversed course and will enforce a statewide ban on assault weapons, according to a joint announcement made with County Board Chair Deb Conroy and State’s Attorney Robert Berlin. Amid the shift in Mendrick’s stance, Conroy will not seek to censure Mendrick, Monday’s statement said.

The joint statement comes just two weeks after Mendrick announced that he would not enforce parts of H.B. 5471. Passed on Jan. 10, the Protect Illinois Communities Act prohibits the distribution and sale of assault-style weapons, along with guns that have high-capacity magazines and similar alterations.

Sheriff Will Enforce Weapons Ban; Conroy Will Not Seek Censure (Patch)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:11:43am

re: #255 Crush White Nationalism

He really won’t enforce it thought. This guy just giving lip service.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:12:52am

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

He really won’t enforce it thought. This guy just giving lip service.

My thoughts exactly. This is another “lying for Jesus” type of moment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:12:55am

This guy’s Twitter feed is a fire hose of crazy. Best block him in advance.

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:14:56am

Good morning!

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:15:13am

re: #259 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

What happened to the picnic table?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:17:27am

Waiting for this announcement later on today:
Dear members,

On Wednesday, February 1, the first day of Black History Month, the Advanced Placement Program will release the official framework for the AP African American Studies course. The official framework has been under development for nearly a year. It will replace the preliminary pilot course framework under discussion to date and defines what students will encounter on the AP Exam for college credit and placement.

We have worked and planned for this day for many months and will mark the milestone with a celebration at the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture on February 2.

The course is the subject of great interest, and we want to explain the process we have followed to get to this point.

To develop this official course framework, the AP Program consulted with more than 300 professors of African American Studies from more than 200 colleges nationwide, including dozens of Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The course focuses on the topics where professors shared a strong consensus on the essential shared events, experiences, and individuals crucial to a study of African American history and culture. This process was completed in December 2022.

To be clear, no states or districts have seen the official framework that will be released on February 1, much less provided feedback on it. This course has been shaped only by the input of experts and long-standing AP principles and practices.

When we share the course framework next week, the public will see the extraordinary stories, artwork, documents, and debates at the heart of AP African American Studies. It is a remarkable course that explores the richness and depth of African American history and culture. We invite everyone to read the framework for themselves when it is released; it is a historic document that deserves your attention.

Finally, we want to thank the many members of the AP community who are helping to bring this vital course to life. We pledge to all of you that we will honor their work and maintain our unflinching commitment to this course.

We hope you will join us in celebrating this historic achievement next week.

Sincerely,

Advanced Placement Program

And guess who gets to teach it next year???!!!!!!

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TorgoJohnson  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:19:19am

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This guy’s Twitter feed is a fire hose of crazy. Best block him in advance.

“Republican candidate Jarome Bell, who has called for the execution of anyone involved with election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, lost Tuesday’s Republican primary for a U.S. House seat in Virginia.

“Bell went even further on his election fraud stance in September, when he tweeted, “Audit all 50 states. Arrest all involved. Try all involved. Convict all involved. Execute all involved. #MaricopaCountyFraud.”“

newsweek.com

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:20:36am

Here’s the current radar:

Part of me is annoyed that where I am, the little square east of Dallas, isn’t getting anything at the moment. If the apocalypse is happening, i want it all, dammit.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:21:27am

re: #262 TorgoJohnson

So, prosecuting and executing everyone from Trump down? Yeah, those were the only ones involved in election interference, election fraud, and even substantiated cases of voter fraud (where like at the Villages, GOPers voted for dead relatives).

I know that’s not what he means, but follow the evidence… /

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:22:47am

Link

Trump spent $5.1m+ to raise… $5m

That’s always been his business model

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:23:51am

re: #265 Dangerman

Link

Trump spent $5.1m+ to raise… $5m

That’s always been his business model

And most of that money was spent on goods and services provided by the DT organization or its associates.

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steve_davis  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:24:20am

completely unrelated to anything, I bought an enormous number of Time, Inc. books from their Reading Program (those really funky paperbacks with the cover made of some kind of plastic that has now degraded to where they invariably crack when opened now). If you’ve never read Cecil Woodham-Smith’s _The Reason Why_ about the infamous Light Brigade charge, and the many, MANY years of build-up to it, with deep character analyses of Lords Cardigan and Lucan—Cardigan ranking as possibly the bravest and stupidest commander ever produced by the commission-purchasing system. It’s an absolute cracker.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:25:19am

re: #265 Dangerman

Link

Trump spent $5.1m+ to raise… $5m

That’s always been his business model

Grift. Self dealing. Money laundering. It’s all the same to Trump. Everything he does is to line his pockets.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:26:10am

WFAA has reporters all over the metroplex. One of them in Denton was at a corner where they were reporting on cars, including the tow truck in the live image, unable to get up an hill (a resident had taken on the job of telling people to find a different route). At the bottom of the hill are railroad tracks. As they’re watching the tow truck and another pickup, the track lights light up. The pickup then begins frantically backing up. They were both out of the way of the train when it went through, but we weren’t sure of the tow truck until the train came through.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:26:25am

re: #255 Crush White Nationalism

The wingnut sheriff backed down.

Sheriff Will Enforce Weapons Ban; Conroy Will Not Seek Censure (Patch)

Shmendrick

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:27:07am

re: #214 Shropshire Slasher

Is should be 75, just sayin’. I believe most of the interstate was designed for 65 mph speed limit, so there probably aren’t too many places this would happen.

auburnpub.com

Speed kills. Death rate goes up. Worse emissions, too.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:27:37am

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This guy’s Twitter feed is a fire hose of crazy. Best block him in advance.

[Embedded content]

They don’t really think this stuff through

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:30:33am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:30:35am

An update on the hill into Rockwall I was talking about yesterday. Trucks started slowly moving because people around here with Jeeps showed up and started towing the trucks up the hill.

The highway is clear now, but that will change as we get more precipitation.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:32:12am

re: #116 Captain Ron

It might have something to do with this…

[Embedded content]

FWIW, Harry Nillsson treated women as another perk of his career.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:32:54am

re: #228 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

TFG will shortly invent a racist nickname for her which he will be sharing on Truth Social. The GOP’s strategy to deny him the 2024 GOP nomination for President is to hope he dies.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:34:28am

NYC snowfall drought has ended, just shy of 1 year.

It will also go down as warmest January on record - spanning back more than 150 years.

This weekend though will be a different story as we’ll be in the single digits and wind chills below zero.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:40:16am

re: #261 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Waiting for this announcement later on today:
Dear members,

On Wednesday, February 1, the first day of Black History Month, the Advanced Placement Program will release the official framework for the AP African American Studies course. The official framework has been under development for nearly a year. It will replace the preliminary pilot course framework under discussion to date and defines what students will encounter on the AP Exam for college credit and placement.

We have worked and planned for this day for many months and will mark the milestone with a celebration at the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture on February 2.

The course is the subject of great interest, and we want to explain the process we have followed to get to this point.

To develop this official course framework, the AP Program consulted with more than 300 professors of African American Studies from more than 200 colleges nationwide, including dozens of Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The course focuses on the topics where professors shared a strong consensus on the essential shared events, experiences, and individuals crucial to a study of African American history and culture. This process was completed in December 2022.

To be clear, no states or districts have seen the official framework that will be released on February 1, much less provided feedback on it. This course has been shaped only by the input of experts and long-standing AP principles and practices.

When we share the course framework next week, the public will see the extraordinary stories, artwork, documents, and debates at the heart of AP African American Studies. It is a remarkable course that explores the richness and depth of African American history and culture. We invite everyone to read the framework for themselves when it is released; it is a historic document that deserves your attention.

Finally, we want to thank the many members of the AP community who are helping to bring this vital course to life. We pledge to all of you that we will honor their work and maintain our unflinching commitment to this course.

We hope you will join us in celebrating this historic achievement next week.

Sincerely,

Advanced Placement Program

And guess who gets to teach it next year???!!!!!!

Wish my kids could have taken this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:40:20am

re: #263 Belafon

Part of me is annoyed that where I am, the little square east of Dallas, isn’t getting anything at the moment. If the apocalypse is happening, i want it all, dammit,

Queen - I Want It All (Official Video Remastered)

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:42:10am

Meanwhile in Arkansas

rawstory.com

Arkansas GOP may have totally botched its own anti-drag show law

Republicans in Arkansas have been trying to pass a law that would classify any event featuring drag performances as an adult event, but one legal expert thinks their proposal as currently written might not even achieve its intended purpose.

Of course not. It’s a stupid law written by stupid assholes!

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:47:18am

The idiot box has been recreated on the Internet for people who want to vegetate in front of the TV like in the old days rather than choosing what to watch.

It has been a very, very rough couple of months for streaming content, marked by the cancellation of a ton of projects, even those that were already filmed or received critical acclaim. Westworld, HBO’s once-heralded sci-fi western series, was one of the early victims of the streaming reduction, and it looked like those who didn’t own physical copies of the show might not ever be able to see it again. However, all is not lost. Warner Bros. Discovery has struck deals with Roku and Tubi to bring multiple shows to their FAST (free ad-supported streaming TV) channel services, including Westworld and Raised by the Wolves for either or both platforms.

Westworld & Raised by Wolves Are Returning, but Not on HBO Max (The Escapist via MSN)

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:47:27am

Campaign staffer who accused Matt Schlapp of fondling him sues GOP fundraiser over Twitter posts

why stop at only $500K?

nbcnews.com

The former Herschel Walker campaign staffer who sued American Conservative Union (ACU) Chairman Matt Schlapp earlier this month for alleged sexual assault has filed another lawsuit against a GOP fundraiser for defamation, NBC reports.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:58:03am

re: #172 Dopamine Fish

Here’s my take on missionaries: It’s all well and good, if there’s no coercion involved. I, for one, welcome any chance to increase our ability to communicate with native peoples with whom few, if any, white people have had any contact, as long as they’re amenable to opening the exchange. My concern, of course, is the spread of militant evangelical white nationalism, but in general, those sorts aren’t really the ones going outside the country to preach the gospel to “others”. Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with wanting to preach a belief system to people who aren’t familiar with the particulars, as long as they’re free to say, “No, we’re quite good as we are, fuck you very much.”

The story of Sam Jerry Oni is one not just one of courage but also of patience and integrity. As an African missionary convert from Ghana, he may have seemed to be an unlikely crusader for integration, but he helped Mercer challenge racist southern traditions and to find its institutional conscience.

(As a black student attending Mercer, Sam was not allowed to attend the Baptist church located on Mercer’s campus)

faculty.mercer.edu

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2023 • 6:59:49am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:02:58am

First birbie in a while.
Wordle 592 3/6

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🟩🟨🟨⬛🟩
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darthstar  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:04:12am

Start the day off with a good read.

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:04:24am

re: #264 lawhawk

So, prosecuting and executing everyone from Trump down? Yeah, those were the only ones involved in election interference, election fraud, and even substantiated cases of voter fraud (where like at the Villages, GOPers voted for dead relatives).

I know that’s not what he means, but follow the evidence… /

Only if it goes where we want

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:05:44am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And most of that money was spent on goods and services provided by the DT organization or its associates.

Maybe not so much this time
But I dont know what this means

$2.5 million on texting, $1.7 million on online advertising and $950,000 on list rentals

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:06:38am

re: #288 Dangerman

Maybe not so much this time
But I dont know what this means

$2.5 million on texting, $1.7 million on online advertising and $950,000 on list rentals

It’s all a shell game, a lot of that money will find its way back to the Trump Organization

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:09:51am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re going to have to put up with this lunacy.

[Embedded content]

Ashli Babbitt is the Pavlik Morozov of Horst Wessels.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:12:00am

re: #172 Dopamine Fish

Otherwise, I don’t see a problem with wanting to preach a belief system to people who aren’t familiar with the particulars, as long as they’re free to say, “No, we’re quite good as we are, fuck you very much.”

Ask John Allen Chau how that turned out.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:13:02am

re: #276 No Malarkey!

TFG will shortly invent a racist nickname for her which he will be sharing on Truth Social. The GOP’s strategy to deny him the 2024 GOP nomination for President is to hope he dies.

And why thats not the solution to the Rs problem: This strikes us as hopelessly naive

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:13:11am

re: #290 The Pie Overlord!

Ashli Babbitt is the Pavlik Morozov of Horst Wessels.

They are comparing her to Tyre Nichols, calling her a victim of excessive police violence.

Because storming and breaking into the US Capitol is the same as getting pulled over for a traffic stop…

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:20:41am

re: #281 Crush White Nationalism

The idiot box has been recreated on the Internet for people who want to vegetate in front of the TV like in the old days rather than choosing what to watch.

Westworld & Raised by Wolves Are Returning, but Not on HBO Max (The Escapist via MSN)

Are you blaming Westworld for trying to find a place to watch, or Discovery for deciding that shows people were watching aren’t worth the cost to their CEO’S salary?

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:22:41am
FBI agents are searching the Rehoboth, Delaware, beach home of President Joe Biden, NBC News reports.

With consent
As in Biden is 100% cooperating

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:24:44am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:25:45am

re: #296 Dangerman

“How come there isn’t a White History month?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:26:13am

Bagged another birbie!

Wordle 592 3/6

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:26:27am

re: #294 Belafon

Are you blaming Westworld for trying to find a place to watch, or Discovery for deciding that shows people were watching aren’t worth the cost to their CO’S salary?

I didn’t blame anyone.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:26:44am

re: #67 The Pie Overlord!

I think it was really the COVID vaccine that did it.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:27:28am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Every day is white history month

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:30:52am

Vietnam war veterans will brand Jane Fonda a “traitor” for wanting to bring troops home but proclaim Ashli Babbitt to be a “patriot” for being defending a real traitor.

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nines09  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:35:53am

OT break.
In central Pennsylvania there was one huge bottleneck in traffic from the east coast to western NY and they kicked that can for over 50 years. From the Maryland line to the NY border they improved the highway on US 15 from a two lane to an interstate except for said bottleneck.
It used to take me 5 and a half hours to get to just north of Niagara Falls in the late 70’s well into the 80’s. They improved US 322. Improved US 422. I-99. And so on.
This man has flown over my house for decades, and has filmed the work being done.
It’s massive. Going to forever chance the landscape and area. I’m not sure what the future holds for the “Strip” between Selinsgrove and the 11-15 split.
Might be a good thing, maybe not.
But if you want to watch a flight over the central Susquehanna Valley, watch these.
The northern section is done, now the southern part is underway.
When you see the steam plume, that is the Hummels Wharf LPG power plant.
Just thought I’d drop this here, let you see the views and the beauty of the area.

CSVT (Central Susquehanna Transportation)

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:37:42am

re: #302 electrotek

Vietnam war veterans

Not a monolith.

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:42:26am

re: #304 wrenchwench

Not a monolith.

You’re right, should have said most.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:43:27am

re: #302 electrotek

Vietnam war veterans will brand Jane Fonda a “traitor” for wanting to bring troops home but proclaim Ashli Babbitt to be a “patriot” for being defending a real traitor.

There will be a reboot of Barbarella.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:44:23am

Short story: Touch
As I pass the wall, I reflexively pause and reach out to touch it, put my palm in one of the many hand-shaped indentations carved into the stone. Just for a moment. As I resume my walk, a family of tourists waves at me.

“Excuse me, sorry, would you mind explaining… er…”

“Of course. There is a deep cave out in the countryside, with a wall covered in handprints made tens of thousands of years ago. When it was discovered, the local baron had this made as a copy, so we could all see them, and touch our history.”

Their little girl runs up to the wall and looks for a hand matching her own. There are a few down at her height, but…

“Why are most small hands so high, way up over the big ones?”

“Because we lift children up,” I say with a smile. “That’s what people have always done.”

-O. Westing @microsff

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:44:44am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:46:24am

The TacoMaster 3000

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:46:51am

re: #306 electrotek

You’re right, should have said most.

It’s a start. An awful lot of them are dying homeless people right now. All are old. My late husband was a Vietnam era vet. Today would have been his 84th birthday, or I may have ignored the whole thing.

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Teukka  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:46:57am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:47:26am
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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:47:44am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:48:26am

re: #310 Dave In Austin

The TacoMaster 3000

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Oh no. The Liberals took your gas stove.

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cat-tikvah  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:48:36am

re: #309 Belafon

When I was out canvassing in the Philly area before the election I had more than one person claim “Democrats let you kill your baby up to two weeks after they’re born!” and nothing could dissuade them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:49:10am

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I see Belafon posted that Tweet already.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 1, 2023 • 7:59:42am

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

So did a bunch of other private companies for that matter.

Egg conglomerate. Egg prices up 60%, their year over last year profits up 65%. Coincidence?

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:00:41am

re: #313 Belafon

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Thanos  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:00:44am

re: #296 Dangerman

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I’m stealing that

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:02:10am

re: #318 Eventual Carrion

Egg conglomerate. Egg prices up 60%, their year over last year profits up 65%. Coincidence?

There are fewer eggs due to a disease. They weren’t going to let that cut into profits.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:02:43am

re: #302 electrotek

Vietnam war veterans will brand Jane Fonda a “traitor” for wanting to bring troops home but proclaim Ashli Babbitt to be a “patriot” for being defending a real traitor.

Bullshit. You could make good money with this kind of generalized hate speech and demonization in the 80s (People magazine practically required it) but times and perceptions have moved on.
“Hanoi Jane” is a convenient punching bag and scapegoat for people who were either children at the time or sat it out like Trump and Romney, or who were born since the war and know nothing about either it, or her. They are about as genuine as the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” astroturf mob who hounded John Kerry during the 2004 campaign. Imagine being wounded in actual combat 3 times and having fat old frauds and fakes publicly question your wounds’ authenticity.
Ms. Fonda’s story about the infamous antiaircraft gun photo rings true. She has apologized constantly for it. I accepted her apology in person, in fact (at a book signing many years later). I had a chance to briefly share my story about meeting Rush Limbaugh and Fonda and I shared a laugh.

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:06:04am

re: #311 wrenchwench

It’s a start. An awful lot of them are dying homeless people right now. All are old. My late husband was a Vietnam era vet. Today would have been his 84th birthday, or I may have ignored the whole thing.

Understood, the way they have been neglected while the politicians that got away with sending so many to their deaths in the jungles of SE Asia is inexcusable.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:07:42am

re: #318 Eventual Carrion

Egg conglomerate. Egg prices up 60%, their year over last year profits up 65%. Coincidence?

Egg shortages due to avian flu culling flocks of poultry. Instead of vaccinations, which can be costly and hard to track, they are fine with killing the flocks by gassing them, which means entire food product supply chain gets FUBAR because the companies think it’s cheaper to destroy their source product than protect the flocks from the flu.

So, even when prices soar due to scarcity, they profit.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:08:08am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:09:37am
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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:11:10am

re: #316 cat-tikvah

When I was out canvassing in the Philly area before the election I had more than one person claim “Democrats let you kill your baby up to two weeks after they’re born!” and nothing could dissuade them.

there is no dissuade
there is no engagement
there is no rationality

they’ve gone round the bend
they are barely functioning as people

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:11:35am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians are wilding again.

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He means to make New College the most racist and theocratic public institution in the nation, doesn’t he?

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:12:40am

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Bullshit. You could make good money with this kind of generalized hate speech and demonization in the 80s (People magazine practically required it) but times and perceptions have moved on.
“Hanoi Jane” is a convenient punching bag and scapegoat for people who were either children at the time or sat it out like Trump and Romney, or who were born since the war and know nothing about either it, or her. They are about as genuine as the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” astroturf mob who hounded John Kerry during the 2004 campaign. Imagine being wounded in actual combat 3 times and having fat old frauds and fakes publicly question your wounds’ authenticity.
Ms. Fonda’s story about the infamous antiaircraft gun photo rings true. She has apologized constantly for it. I accepted her apology in person, in fact (at a book signing many years later). I had a chance to briefly share my story about meeting Rush Limbaugh and Fonda and I shared a laugh.

I will say that back then I used to hold a lot of hatred towards Jane Fonda and even sadly applauded the time when she was spat on by a veteran at a book signing in 2005. I felt that she deserved much worse, so I had no problem with what she received. This was also a time when I was seeking common ground with conservatives as a liberal which I also foolishly regret and have wised up since.

But almost a decade later, I took the time to look into her activism and understood what drove her desire to be an activist, and my perception had a complete 180 degree turn. In the end, she has repented countless times for her action as you mentioned.

I still regret applauding her being spat on, since as I got older I realized that spitting on a woman (no matter how vile I may feel about her) is a disgusting and abhorrent attack. I wouldn’t even want that on MTG or Lauren Boebert or any female Andrew Tate supporter for that matter.

I’d love to meet her one day - her activism is inspiring and she is a far better person than a senile racist like Brigitte Bardot.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:15:38am

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Oh. The Limbaugh story.
I was scheduled to speak at a symposium at Texas Tech’s Center for the Study of the Vietnam War. This is the official repository for captured enemy documents, a very serious institution indeed. I was still in the National Guard so I wore my class A uniform. Limbaugh was on campus the same day for a speech to young fascists or something. I happened to encounter him face to face outside the University Center, where he was scheduled to speak. To his credit, I suppose, he recognized my Vietnam service ribbon and thanked me for my service (blah blah). I nodded politely but what I wanted to say was “Ok, great. It was fun, but where the fuck were you?”

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Thanos  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:18:36am

OT:

Mastodon

Truly free societies fear neither the burqa nor the bikini.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:21:20am

re: #324 lawhawk

Egg shortages due to avian flu culling flocks of poultry. Instead of vaccinations, which can be costly and hard to track, they are fine with killing the flocks by gassing them, which means entire food product supply chain gets FUBAR because the companies think it’s cheaper to destroy their source product than protect the flocks from the flu.

So, even when prices soar due to scarcity, they profit.

kinda like, you know…

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:23:34am

re: #260 Dopamine Fish

What happened to the picnic table?

For the last few days It only comes out at night.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:23:56am

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I never like it when people say, “thank you for your service”.

It was just a job.

During the cold war, they promised me travel to Europe and college money in exchange for being willing to, as one metaphor put it, write Uncle a check for any amount up to and including my life. I was lucky and the only time I got shot at was a damn fool LT in my arms room. Even with my back and knee injuries, I’d say I got the best of the deal.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:24:18am

re: #329 electrotek

I will say that back then I used to hold a lot of hatred towards Jane Fonda…

…I took the time to look into her activism and understood what drove her…

that’s how it’s supposed to work

it works even better if taking the time happens first

plaudits

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:24:42am

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

down to 4F in Chicago’s northern suburbs.

OT — Double Par for Wednesday

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:29:13am

re: #335 Dangerman

that’s how it’s supposed to work

it works even better if taking the time happens first

plaudits

And to Fonda’s credit, she didn’t transform into a vile homophobic racist like Brigitte Bardot. I hold so much hatred against her, which is ironic because I also hated Bardot back then for being a vile racist, so I had some cognitive dissonance going on.

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:30:59am

re: #334 William Lewis

I never like it when people say, “thank you for your service”.

It was just a job.

During the cold war, they promised me travel to Europe and college money in exchange for being willing to, as one metaphor put it, write Uncle a check for any amount up to and including my life. I was lucky and the only time I got shot at was a damn fool LT in my arms room. Even with my back and knee injuries, I’d say I got the best of the deal.

When people said, ‘thank you for your service’ to Mr. w, sometimes he said, ‘Thank you for paying your taxes.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:30:59am

re: #307 Shropshire Slasher

There will be a reboot of Barbarella.

With Duran Duran playing Duran Duran

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:32:07am

re: #309 Belafon

Only 38% of Republican men want there to be equal numbers of men and women in positions of power in our society.”

30% said that men make better political leaders than women.

67% said there’s already full equality for women in work, life, and politics.

The latter translated: “There’s already enough goddamn equality! Now go make me a sandwich!”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:33:56am

I’ve always been interested in the phenomenon of the “chicken hawks,” the almost incredible number of right wingers who basically supported the Vietnam War and government policy but who personally resorted to any available means to dodge the draft and avoid service. One prominent Republican, Liz Cheney, was not a draft dodger, of course, but actually started life as a draft dodging gimmick on behalf of her war mongering father, Darth the Dick Cheney.

Upon graduation, Cheney was eligible for the draft, but at the time, the Selective Service System was not inducting married men. On October 6, 1965, the draft was expanded to include married men without children; Cheney’s first daughter, Elizabeth, was born 9 months and two days later. Cheney’s fifth and final deferment granted him “3-A” status, a “hardship” deferment available to men with dependents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:35:28am

re: #316 cat-tikvah

When I was out canvassing in the Philly area before the election I had more than one person claim “Democrats let you kill your baby up to two weeks after they’re born!” and nothing could dissuade them.

There was that famous quote from Trump about how “they wrap the baby up in a blanket and decide whether or not to kill it.”

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:35:55am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Chicken Hawk lays an egg.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:36:34am

I would’ve thought that there would have been more, as in any, discussion in the media of the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Paris Peace Accords on January 27, 1973, which ended America’s combat role in the Vietnam War.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:37:08am

re: #324 lawhawk

So, even when prices soar due to scarcity, they profit.

God how we love the invisible hand of the Free Market when it bends us over ande puts a finger up our asses…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:40:08am

re: #344 No Malarkey!

I would’ve thought that there would have been more, as in any, discussion in the media of the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Paris Peace Accords on January 27, 1973, which ended America’s combat role in the Vietnam War.

Just like the Germans don’t commemorate the signing of the Armistice on November 11th, 1918…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:41:03am

Why doesn’t Biden tap into the Strategic Powdered Egg Reserve?

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:41:21am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I went and looked up the stats. For any random day, the probability of a young woman getting pregnant from a single act of intercourse is 5%. Even if you time it, the probability is 20%.

They were working at it hard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:43:15am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’ve always been interested in the phenomenon of the “chicken hawks,” the almost incredible number of right wingers who basically supported the Vietnam War and government policy but who personally resorted to any available means to dodge the draft and avoid service.

And don’t even get us going on Dubya and his stint with the Air National Guard, which he did not even bother showing up for.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:45:16am
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Teukka  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:46:01am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

God how we love the invisible hand of the Free Market when it puts a finger up our asses…

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:46:04am

re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like the Germans don’t commemorate the signing of the Armistice on November 11th, 1918…

OTOH, I personally will remember 30 April 2025 with a toast for all the dead in the 10000 day war.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:46:19am

I pulled the trigger for tonight:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:46:26am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And don’t even get us going on Dubya and his stint with the Air National Guard, which he did not even bother showing up for.

and don’t even even get me going on how they dismissed the service record of guys who could have pulled strings but didn’t like Gore and Kerry.

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Jay C  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:47:37am

re: #326 Belafon

Yes, but I did notice a subtle bias in the way CNN frames that headline:
They have:

First police report in Tyre Nichols case does not match video of deadly beating

Now re-write it (as I would) to read:

Video of deadly beating does not match first police report in Tyre Nichols case

The first version makes it sound almost like some sort of documentation mess-up; the second (IMO) makes it much clearer that the cops lied from the get-go. Which, of course, is probably too obvious for CNN to want to highlight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:48:22am

re: #351 Teukka

God how we love the invisible hand of the Free Market when it puts a finger up our asses…

The Free Market is a great mechanism for balancing supply and demand but it works poorly with managing resources. That was something I learned after the 1973 oil crisis.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:50:39am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

He means to make New College the most racist and theocratic public institution in the nation, doesn’t he?

I’ll bet the Hillsdale people have some part to play in this.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:50:52am

re: #355 Jay C

Yes, but I did notice a subtle bias in the way CNN frames that headline:
They have:

First police report in Tyre Nichols case does not match video of deadly beating

Now re-write it (as I would) to read:

Video of deadly beating does not match first police report in Tyre Nichols case

The first version makes it sound almost like some sort of documentation mess-up; the second (IMO) makes it much clearer that the cops lied from the get-go. Which, of course, is probably too obvious for CNN to want to highlight.

Police surveillance video contradicts the initial misleading and bogus police reports that media outlets used to report the murder of Nichols.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:52:33am

re: #358 lawhawk

Police surveillance video contradicts the initial misleading and bogus police reports that media outlets used to report the murder of Nichols.

I’d rather say, “Video shows Police Reports Lied”.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:53:06am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Free Market is a great mechanism for balancing supply and demand but it works poorly with managing resources. That was something I learned after the 1973 oil crisis.

Yep. It works great when both ends are part of they system. It fails in managing resources because you can’t go to mother nature and demand more oil, and OPEC isn’t capitalist. Similarly, it fails in Healthcare because you can’t negotiate “I’ll only take the non-life threatening form of cancer.”

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:56:08am

re: #359 William Lewis

I’d rather say, “Video shows Police Reports Lied”.

One step further:

Video Confirms: Cops Lie

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:56:48am

The building and location is now part of a civil rights museum, which I visited a few years back. It’s also a reminder that the GOP is intent on bringing all of this back and then some.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:57:12am

re: #357 Barefoot Grin

I’ll bet the Hillsdale people have some part to play in this.

Just a reminder that il Duce DeSadist appointed Christopher Rufo to the New College Board Of Trustees so you know that Hillsdale will be calling the shots to turn New College into another Jesusbot programming center.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:57:15am

From NPR:

Complete list of 2023 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees (asterisks indicate those receiving their first nomination):

Willie Nelson*
Kate Bush
Missy Elliott*
George Michael*
Sheryl Crow*
A Tribe Called Quest
Iron Maiden
Joy Division/New Order*
Cyndi Lauper*
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden
The Spinners
The White Stripes*
Warren Zevon*

Missy Elliott, Willie Nelson and more named 2023 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees

Must have been a lot of turnover on the nominating committee to get some of those folks even acknowledged this much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:57:45am

re: #360 Belafon

Similarly, [the free market] fails in Healthcare because you can’t negotiate “I’ll only take the non-life threatening form of cancer.”

it fails in private health care because we force individuals and families to negotiate one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar insurance companies and not collectively.

That was what ACA was supposed to help rectify and we see how well it was received by proponents of Free Market economics

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 8:59:05am

re: #364 William Lewis

Surprised it has taken so long to get Warren Zevon nominated

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:00:14am

They’re still recovering debris from the explosion over Texas even now. They recovered only a fraction of all of the orbiter, and the real crime here is that NASA knew the risks of this kind of failure, but did nothing about it despite ample evidence over the year of insulation strikes against the shuttles as they launched.

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A Cranky One  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:00:27am

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Teukka  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:00:54am

re: #360 Belafon

Yep. It works great when both ends are part of they system. It fails in managing resources because you can’t go to mother nature and demand more oil, and OPEC isn’t capitalist. Similarly, it fails in Healthcare because you can’t negotiate “I’ll only take the non-life threatening form of cancer.”

*Accident happens, person gets life threatening injuries*
“How much are you willing to pay to get treated? That’s our price.”

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wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:01:05am

re: #362 lawhawk

The building and location is now part of a civil rights museum, which I visited a few years back. It’s also a reminder that the GOP is intent on bringing all of this back and then some.

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I went to the Woolworths in Greensboro. Very well museumified, with tight security, and good tours.

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austin_blue  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:01:45am

The first post in this thread got me over the 70,000 karma hump.

Battery-operated feet warmers or the Toaster?

Hmmm…choices, choices…

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:01:51am

re: #367 lawhawk

They’re still recovering debris from the explosion over Texas even now. They recovered only a fraction of all of the orbiter, and the real crime here is that NASA knew the risks of this kind of failure, but did nothing about it despite ample evidence over the year of insulation strikes against the shuttles as they launched.

I was in college at the time, and still an avid fan of astronomy and NASA. I sat in my dorm room and cried when President Bush came on the TV and said, “The Columbia is lost; there are no survivors.” I was so angry at NASA because I knew they had to have fucked something up, Challenger-style.

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Jay C  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:02:28am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and don’t even even get me going on how they dismissed the service record of guys who could have pulled strings but didn’t like Gore and Kerry.

John Kerry was a different case: I am still - and will always be - convinced that the Swift Boat bullshit pulled on Kerry in the 2004 campaign was (what I hope was) the last gasp of the Vietnam War (pro/anti) as a political issue in this country. I still believe that it was Kerry’s outspoken anti-war stance and leadership in the “anti-war veterans’” movement - old history as it was by that point - that provided the spark for the smear campaign* : a belated chance to re-fight the war (and punch some hippies) - contrasted with the sneering triumphalism over Iraq which the Dubya Administration loved to push.

* which they might have mounted anyway, Kerry’s anti-war activism just made it sweeter for the smear merchants, IMO

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Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:03:36am

re: #364 William Lewis

From NPR:

Missy Elliott, Willie Nelson and more named 2023 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees

Must have been a lot of turnover on the nominating committee to get some of those folks even acknowledged this much.

That’s a helluva list of performers. All are HOFers in my eyes. My preference, in no particular order, for this class:

Willie Nelson*
Sheryl Crow*
Iron Maiden
Joy Division/New Order*
Cyndi Lauper*
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:04:07am

re: #373 Jay C

John Kerry was a different case: I am still - and will always be - convinced that the Swift Boat bullshit pulled on Kerry in the 2004 campaign was (what I hope was) the last gasp of the Vietnam War (pro/anti) as a political issue in this country.

Karl Rove was a fucking evil genius when it came to manipulating the press and public opinion.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:07:00am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Surprised it has taken so long to get Warren Zevon nominated

He’s one I was referring to. It seems there was a member on the committee (Jann Wenner) who had an utter hatred of Zevon and even when Jackson Browne did that guy a favor, he refused to allow Zevon to be nominated.

377
Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:07:36am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Karl Rove was a fucking evil genius when it came to manipulating the press and public opinion.

The Left and so-called librul MSM were not prepared to counter Rove, the rise of Fox “news”, and the rise of conservative media.

378
lawhawk  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:09:30am

Santos is determined to get everyone in his political circle in criminal legal trouble.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:10:25am

re: #378 lawhawk

Santos is determined to get everyone in his political circle in criminal legal trouble.

The scary part is that it will take nothing less than a criminal conviction to get him tossed out of Congress

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:13:48am
381
gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:16:59am
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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:20:41am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

He means to make New College the most racist and theocratic public institution in the nation, doesn’t he?


We suspect that there may be a third reason that DeSantis targeted New College
: DeSantis would very much like the votes of white supremacists…

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:21:24am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He had a lot to work with.

c-span.org

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:23:24am

re: #363 Joe Bacon

Just a reminder that il Duce DeSadist appointed Christopher Rufo to the New College Board Of Trustees so you know that Hillsdale will be calling the shots to turn New College into another Jesusbot programming center.

The tip of the pyramid of publicly funded (vouchers) private religious charter schools, no doubt.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:23:36am

re: #381 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Georgie threw an elbow at the first reporter dressed in green.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:24:08am

Trump vows to use DOJ and Congress to make being transgender illegal while promoting the ‘nuclear family’

He’ll do anything to keep Pulpit Pimps from defecting to Il Duce DeSadist.

As part of his 2024 campaign, Donald Trump is now declaring war against transgender people - especially transgender children - even vowing to use DOJ and Congress to make being transgender illegal under federal law, if elected President. He also promised to promote the “nuclear family,” an attack on same-sex couples and families. And he pledged to use the Dept. of Education to file federal civil rights charges against local school teachers who support transgender children - or even the very concept of being transgender.

rawstory.com

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:25:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:25:25am

re: #261 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Waiting for this announcement later on today:
Dear members,

On Wednesday, February 1, the first day of Black History Month, the Advanced Placement Program will release the official framework for the AP African American Studies course. The official framework has been under development for nearly a year. It will replace the preliminary pilot course framework under discussion to date and defines what students will encounter on the AP Exam for college credit and placement.

We have worked and planned for this day for many months and will mark the milestone with a celebration at the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture on February 2.

The course is the subject of great interest, and we want to explain the process we have followed to get to this point.

To develop this official course framework, the AP Program consulted with more than 300 professors of African American Studies from more than 200 colleges nationwide, including dozens of Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The course focuses on the topics where professors shared a strong consensus on the essential shared events, experiences, and individuals crucial to a study of African American history and culture. This process was completed in December 2022.

To be clear, no states or districts have seen the official framework that will be released on February 1, much less provided feedback on it. This course has been shaped only by the input of experts and long-standing AP principles and practices.

When we share the course framework next week, the public will see the extraordinary stories, artwork, documents, and debates at the heart of AP African American Studies. It is a remarkable course that explores the richness and depth of African American history and culture. We invite everyone to read the framework for themselves when it is released; it is a historic document that deserves your attention.

Finally, we want to thank the many members of the AP community who are helping to bring this vital course to life. We pledge to all of you that we will honor their work and maintain our unflinching commitment to this course.

We hope you will join us in celebrating this historic achievement next week.

Sincerely,

Advanced Placement Program

And guess who gets to teach it next year???!!!!!!

Got an alert on my phone saying that they watered down the program to address DeSantis concerns.

In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board, a nonprofit that oversees the AP program nationwide, removed the names of several Black authors identified as problematic by Florida officials.

……

In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.

Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are “not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states” — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:25:53am

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

Got an alert on my phone saying that they watered down the program to address DeSantis concerns.

Yep, I was going to post this but didn’t have time to track down the original post to make the reply. Thank you.

390
Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:26:08am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The scary part is that it will take nothing less than a criminal conviction to get him tossed out of Congress

and even that’s not a guarantee // (less than 1/2)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:27:58am

re: #382 Dangerman


We suspect that there may be a third reason that DeSantis targeted New College
: DeSantis would very much like the votes of white supremacists…

It’s the “business model” he spoke of

392
Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:28:41am

re: #386 Joe Bacon

Trump vows to use DOJ and Congress to make being transgender illegal while promoting the ‘nuclear family’

He’ll do anything to keep Pulpit Pimps from defecting to Il Duce DeSadist.

As part of his 2024 campaign, Donald Trump is now declaring war against transgender people - especially transgender children - even vowing to use DOJ and Congress to make being transgender illegal under federal law, if elected President. He also promised to promote the “nuclear family,” an attack on same-sex couples and families. And he pledged to use the Dept. of Education to file federal civil rights charges against local school teachers who support transgender children - or even the very concept of being transgender.

rawstory.com

won’t work
it’s not enough to up his dismal polling

393
Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:30:47am

DeSantis is definitely gearing up for a presidential run. He’s shoring up the MAGA/Nazi crowd with all this over the top extremism as of late. It’s hard to believe this is the same “man” that vetoed a bill a few years preventing local governments from banning plastic straws.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:31:38am

re: #382 Dangerman


We suspect that there may be a third reason that DeSantis targeted New College
: DeSantis would very much like the votes of white supremacists…

Didn’t DeSantis already have a lock on the white supremacist vote? Or maybe he was concerned about sharing that demographic with Trump.

395
Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:32:32am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

DeSantis is definitely gearing up for a presidential run. He’s shoring up the MAGA/Nazi crowd with all this over the top extremism as of late. It’s hard to believe this is the same “man” that vetoed a bill a few years preventing local governments from banning plastic straws.

Setting aside his abhorrent politics, can you imagine having to listen to that droning fascist everyday for four years?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:32:38am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

DeSantis is definitely gearing up for a presidential run. He’s shoring up the MAGA/Nazi crowd with all this over the top extremism as of late. It’s hard to believe this is the same “man” that vetoed a bill a few years preventing local governments from banning plastic straws.

It is about being the voice of moral and cultural renewal in America, not about any concrete policies other than making life harder for minorities, gays and transgenders

397
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:33:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:37:44am

re: #392 Dangerman

won’t work
it’s not enough to up his dismal polling

DT is still the most likely to win the GOP nomination…his polling within the party is solid enough to ensure that.

399
Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:41:17am

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, they did water the framework down, and I kind of expected it.

Just trust that I will “water up”? with the things that were taken out of the framework.

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:41:30am

re: #394 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t DeSantis already have a lock on the white supremacist vote? Or maybe he was concerned about sharing that demographic with Trump.

well they certainly arent voting D
your second point is spot on

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Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:42:40am

re: #395 Barefoot Grin

Setting aside his abhorrent politics, can you imagine having to listen to that droning fascist everyday for four years?

i suspect, and predict (as have many others) that he will not do well once he leaves florida / faces non-floridians

402
TarHellion  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:44:44am

re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Vicksburg, Miss., did not celebrate Independence Day from 1863 to 1944.

403
Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:46:09am

re: #401 Dangerman

i suspect, and predict (as have many others) that he will not do well once he leaves florida / faces non-floridians

I’ve read that he has the personal charisma of a speedbump.

404
Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:46:13am

re: #398 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT is still the most likely to win the GOP nomination…his polling within the party is solid enough to ensure that.

yup
and both things can still be true at the same time

holding on to enough of a dwindling base to win the nom, this time, does not translate into winning the general

405
Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:49:42am

re: #395 Barefoot Grin

Setting aside his abhorrent politics, can you imagine having to listen to that droning fascist everyday for four years?

I always thought that McGovern’s voice cost him votes. And as I’ve said before, that’s also why I believe that Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake — Kari has a much more pleasant tonal quality. It’s the usual — not the content of your character but superficial characteristics like appearance or voice that make the difference in close races or among our usual less than knowledgeable voter.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:50:25am

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

I always thought that McGovern’s voice cost him votes. And as I’ve said before, that’s also why I believe that Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake — Kari has a much more pleasant tonal quality. It’s the usual — not the content of your character but superficial characteristics like appearance or voice that make the difference in close races or among our usual less than knowledgeable voter.

I wonder if Kari Lake would have insisted on that stupid-ass soft filter she always has whenever she appears on Steve Bannon’s inane claptrap.

407
Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:51:43am

Little known fact about DeSantis: He deploys a parachute just to step off a curb.

408
wrenchwench  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:53:26am

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

I always thought that McGovern’s voice cost him votes. And as I’ve said before, that’s also why I believe that Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake — Kari has a much more pleasant tonal quality. It’s the usual — not the content of your character but superficial characteristics like appearance or voice that make the difference in close races or among our usual less than knowledgeable voter.

Radio needs to diversify. Not everyone sounds like Steve fucking Inskeep and Mara fuckin Liasson .

/did you know they share a middle name?

409
boredtechindenver  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:55:48am

I haven’t been able to read as much here lately, so I don’t know who is following the spoutable.com launch, but Chris Bouzy has announce that the website is live and you can register.

you can find me there spoutible.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 9:59:58am

re: #404 Dangerman

yup
and both things can still be true at the same time

holding on to enough of a dwindling base to win the nom, this time, does not translate into winning the general

not without massively manipulating the system

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:00:53am

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

I always thought that McGovern’s voice cost him votes. And as I’ve said before, that’s also why I believe that Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake — Kari has a much more pleasant tonal quality. It’s the usual — not the content of your character but superficial characteristics like appearance or voice that make the difference in close races or among our usual less than knowledgeable voter.

and JF Kennedy was much more telegenic than RM Nixon

412
steve_davis  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:10:00am

re: #254 Thanos

2nd pic looks like Keith Carridine from Ridley Scott’s classic “The Duelists” en.wikipedia.org

That would be a bingo!

413
Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:14:11am

re: #408 wrenchwench

Radio needs to diversify. Not everyone sounds like Steve fucking Inskeep and Mara fuckin Liasson .

/did you know they share a middle name?

I like Ayesha Rascoe on Sundays on Weekend Edition. Sometimes she makes me LOL.

414
Egregious Philbin  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:15:01am

re: #367 lawhawk

Rick Husband’s brother was a pilot at the airline I worked for. Rick visited him once when he was in recurrent training and had lots of swag to give out. Of course I missed him that day. On the day of the accident, I was climbing a pyramid outside of Mexico City, came back and saw pictures in the papers on the news stand. Another horrible day. The shuttle should never have been built that way, you always keep astronauts on the top of the stack, with an escape option. But the Shuttle was built by politics and who could do it cheapest.

415
sizzzzlerz  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:17:35am

re: #374 Dr. Matt

That’s a helluva list of performers. All are HOFers in my eyes. My preference, in no particular order, for this class:

Willie Nelson*
Sheryl Crow*
Iron Maiden
Joy Division/New Order*
Cyndi Lauper*
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden

I love Willie but he doesn’t perform R&R. He may cover songs performed by rock musicians, but he is country through and through.

416
sizzzzlerz  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:22:49am

re: #367 lawhawk

They’re still recovering debris from the explosion over Texas even now. They recovered only a fraction of all of the orbiter, and the real crime here is that NASA knew the risks of this kind of failure, but did nothing about it despite ample evidence over the year of insulation strikes against the shuttles as they launched.

That is consistent with NASA’s insistence of launching Challenger because of political pressure when they knew that the O-rings were a huge hazard when trying to launch in freezing temperatures, which they had that fateful day.

417
Dangerman  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:25:09am
No classified documents were found during the FBI’s search of President Joe Biden’s beach house in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday, NBC News reports.

watch this not make the news tonight

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:25:32am

So this just happened.

I was wakened by a knock at my front door (that tells me the person is not from my village, because everyone comes to the back door).

The person in question was a Democratic party activist from Lincoln (four hundred miles away). In all the time I’ve lived here, no politician or campaigner ever came to my house.

He is a law student at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln, and what he was looking for was information from Democrats who might know someone to put up to run against US Senator Deb Fischer in the next election, someone who’s out there but doesn’t know they could garner support. Because my district’s Unicameral seat is up in the next election as well and we have no county Democratic Party, he’s also looking for suggestions for someone who can run for Steve Erdman’s seat.

He said they were looking for the following:

a) An independent or a Democrat
b) A small business owner, farmer, rancher, or well-respected townsperson
c) A veteran
d) A person active in his or her church.

I pointed out I am throwing my hat in the ring for the Unicameral, I meet the first three items, but I am an atheist, not active in any church.

He wished me luck and told me the Democratic Party could not support an atheist. He then left.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:28:15am

re: #415 sizzzzlerz

I love Willie but he doesn’t perform R&R. He may cover songs performed by rock musicians, but he is country through and through.

The “rock and roll” hall of fame needs to renamed when you consider the list of performers who are not “rock and roll” per se : rockhall.com

ABBA, Chet Atkins, Beastie Boys, Bee Gees, Eminem, Aretha Franklin, Janet Jackson, NWA, etc., etc.,

420
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:34:23am

re: #415 sizzzzlerz

I love Willie but he doesn’t perform R&R. He may cover songs performed by rock musicians, but he is country through and through.

Ever since Dolly Parton was nominated, they have started breaking down the distinctions

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Axolotl  Feb 1, 2023 • 1:20:43pm

re: #382 Dangerman


We suspect that there may be a third reason that DeSantis targeted New College
: DeSantis would very much like the votes of white supremacists…

“Changing the culture of New College to better mirror, say, Liberty University is no more viable than changing the culture of Liberty University to better mirror New College.”

yep, visited there with my twins this spring. If he thinks he is changing the culture there good luck.

As the article mentions he is not going after, at least directly, the bigger schools with very large and aggressive alumni.

422
TedStriker  Feb 1, 2023 • 10:05:24pm

re: #415 sizzzzlerz

I love Willie but he doesn’t perform R&R. He may cover songs performed by rock musicians, but he is country through and through.

re: #420 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ever since Dolly Parton was nominated, they have started breaking down the distinctions

Willie and Dolly may not play/sing rock, but they have certainly influenced scads of rockers over the decades; a famous example of genre cross-pollination, though flipped around a bit, is how Garth Brooks credited Kiss as an influence for him, especially in how he did his concerts.

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John Hughes  Feb 2, 2023 • 2:39:12am

re: #344 No Malarkey!

No golden aniversary for the Paris peace accords.

The North Vietnamese délégation stayed in my commune, Champigny sur Marne. Probably because it was run by the communists.


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