Exquisite! Zsófia Boros: “Le Labyrinthe De Vermeer”

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Zsófia Boros - Le labyrinthe de Vermeer - from the new album ‘El ultimo aliento’

Zsófia Boros: Classical Guitar, Ronroco

The focus of Zsófia Boros’s third recording for ECM’s New Series is split two-ways, with one spotlight turned towards contemporary compositions from Argentina and the other on the multiple-idioms spanning music of French composer Mathias Duplessy. Fanfare magazine has spoken of the Vienna-based Hungarian guitarist in glowing terms, noting her “clear, beautiful tone, liquid phrasing, precise layering of melody and accompaniment, fluid figuration and her emphatic sense of mood and emotion” – all qualities that are especially apparent on El último aliento. The album takes its name from the Carlos Moscardini composition which closes the record. Other Argentinian composers interpreted by Boros here are Joaquín Alem, Quique Sinesi and Alberto Ginastera, together making for a vivid repertory that sees the guitarist alternating technique, pace and mood in supple waves. For Sinesi’s “Tormenta de ilusión” Boros switches to the ronroco, a stringed instrument that hails from the Andean regions. By combining the Argentinian music with the expressive pieces by Duplessy, Zsófia Boros creates a suspenseful programme that emphasizes her distinct touch, commitment and wide ranging influences in a quietly compelling manner. The album was recorded at the Auditorio Stelio Molo in Lugano and produced by Manfred Eicher.

Available here: https://ecm.lnk.to/ElUltimoAliento

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:39:28am

Some f-bombs (fascism) dropped:

“Tennessee’s A Drag” - a mini special from Drew Morgan about the DRAG QUEEN ban in Tennessee

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:57:02am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:59:01am

re: #2 The Ghost of a Flea

So they’re turning the racist cops loose on the poor Black people that live in their biggest cities. Wow.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:03:20am

Just posted a new page about Jesusbots hijacking a County Board of Supervisors in Michigan and how they are fast-tracking a massive fuckup of county services.

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:05:06am

re: #2 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #3 Nerdy Fish

So they’re turning the racist cops loose on the poor Black people that live in their biggest cities. Wow.

I dunno, could be a cover-up.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:05:12am

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:05:28am

6 miles/10 min from pond central

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:05:33am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:06:20am

re: #4 Joe Bacon

Just posted a new page about Jesusbots hijacking a County Board of Supervisors in Michigan and how they are fast-tracking a massive fuckup of county services.

The Christian Right have been working hard at this level: county, district, town, and getting their people in to introduce and enforce their idea of God’s Divine Will

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:14:47am
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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:14:55am
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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:15:47am

Let’s talk about Trump’s aid being questioned….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:15:57am

A few days ago I posted here a twitter exchange I had with a “MAGA MEGA” Christian in which he thought it fine if children were tortured (in Noah’s flood) because God would sort it out in “Paradise”.

Christianity is just as much, if not more, prone to violent history than Islam.

Another example of how contemporary American Christianity is turning more and more to thinking that violence in God’s name is ok, was posted as a clip by The Atheist Experience today:

The Crusades were fine…?


..

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:17:38am

re: #7 Dangerman

This sounds terrible on its face.

Is there any redeeming context I am missing here?

Basically attempted murder against an unarmed couple? With property damage?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:18:26am

re: #14 ckkatz

This sounds terrible on its face.

Is there any redeeming context I am missing here?

Basically attempted murder against an unarmed couple? With property damage?

See downstairs; the cops even said he was “justified” in shooting at them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:18:56am

re: #14 ckkatz

This sounds terrible on its face.

Is there any redeeming context I am missing here?

Basically attempted murder against an unarmed couple? With property damage?

They were on his property.

It means that in Florida you enter someone’s property at your own risk. If they can claim they perceive you as a threat, then they can use lethal force without consequences.

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:19:15am

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A few days ago I posted here a twitter exchange I had with a “MAGA MEGA” Christian in which he thought it fine if children were tortured (in Noah’s flood) because God would sort it out in “Paradise”.

Christianity is just as much, if not more, prone to violent history than Islam.

Another example of how contemporary American Christianity is turning more and more to thinking that violence in God’s name is ok, was posted as a clip by The Atheist Experience today:

[Embedded content]

..

The Crusades were clusterfucks. And I say that as a Roman Catholic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:20:06am

re: #17 Teukka

The Crusades were clusterfucks. And I say that as a Roman Catholic.

And they were defining factors in world history.

Which is part of the reason that world history is such a massive clusterfuck.

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:23:42am

re: #11 ckkatz

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Its like weekend apple picking
You don’t want to be the only schlub who pays for the privilege of doing the work other people actually get paid for (although poorly)

And also those who already paid think they’re entitled to an audience.
they’re lobbying, almost demanding, participation

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:25:09am

I’ve decided on developing a deeper relationship with yeast. I did a focaccia bread a few months ago with an overnight ferment. I messed up on the pan rise but it was super tasty. This time I did a 24 hr poolish first, now I’m at 12 hrs with the full focaccia with an overnight counter top ferment in the window sill. After two folds now it’s in the fridge for several hours. I’ll pull it out and do one rise to warm up, then a last rise in the pan before I top with sweet peppers, mushrooms, and maybe some fresh herbs.

While I’m contemplating how tasty my focaccia may be after a little help from a few billion of my closest friends partying it up and farting in my batter, I’m seriously thinking about doing fermented pepper hot sauces as a hobby. If I make big batches I can create my own labels and give to friends for holidays. If not, smaller batches for me.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:25:49am

Charlie Pierce goes after RFK Jr.

RFK Jr. Is a Long Way Away From RFK

link.esquire.com

It is important to remember that, earlier in his life, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was one of the most important environmental lawyers in the country. He helped clean up the Hudson River. He was exploring the issue of environmental racism before there even was a term for it. It is impossible to find a specific point at which he began haring off after things like anti-vaccine theories, but it is at least the farthest fringe of causes he fought for, at least in his mind. And then there is the whole Kennedy thing.

Truth be told, Bobby Kennedy’s connection to Massachusetts was largely limited to weekends in Hyannis Port. True, he went to Harvard, but, after his brother was killed, he spent most of his time in Washington and New York. He was elected to the Senate from New York. His son’s decision to launch what may be his quixotic quest for the presidency in Boston was an attempt to reattach the family to its roots, geographically and every other way. His attempt to attach his outre opinions to the New Frontier, or to his father’s days with Cesar Chavez, is going to be a tougher pull. Right now, he’s closer to Marianne Williamson than to his father, his uncle, or, god knows, Honey Fitz.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:31:56am

re: #14 ckkatz

First, I am very glad that nobody was physically harmed. Although psychological and financial damage are yet to be determined. And I greatly sympathize with the poor couple who nearly got killed.

Second, obviously I am against people shooting passersby and particularly the judicial system tolerating it.

Third, I have no interest in living in or defending Florida.

But, this case has so many negative effects that I am still surprised that it would be allowed to stand. Beyond the attempted murder of the innocent, which it appears the powers that be do not care about, there are tremendous financial costs which I suspect that the powers that be do care about.

What I got from the article was that, as far as I could tell, the case was active:

Davie Police confirmed with NBC6 that a gun went off at a home on Southwest 178th Avenue.

“We can confirm that a discharge of a firearm occurred at a residence at the 6500 block of SW 178th Ave in Southwest Ranches on the 15th. There were no reported injuries,” Davie Police’s statement to NBC6 said, adding they couldn’t release specific information and that the case was active.

Couple Delivering Instacart Groceries Says Car Was Shot at After They Drove to Wrong Address

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:32:05am

Sigh. This is one of those days. So I get my new lens. I pop it on the camera, go for a shoot and the weather quickly goes to crap.I got a couple of ok shots (as you can see) but came home sooner than planned. I get them taken care of & get ready for work, get down to to the truck again and realize, it’s an hour till I need to leave… Oh boy if it keeps up like this O_O

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:34:25am

re: #10 Belafon

Republicans will try to outlaw any discussion of that.

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:35:14am

We will be at this tonight

Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International, in partnership with the Hard Rock Heals Foundation are honored to announce a Ukraine Relief Fund Gala to benefit Ukraine War Victims.

Pix to follow

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:37:20am

re: #24 jaunte

Republicans will try to outlaw any discussion of that.

Outlawing discussions of GQP outlawing discussions will soon be outlawed.

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Captain Ron  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:38:25am
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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:39:48am

More wisdom from Mike Dunford -

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:42:22am

Dunford’s schtick is Country Club Coors Sophisticate. And I’m here for all of it.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:43:09am

re: #21 Joe Bacon

Charlie Pierce goes after RFK Jr.

RFK Jr. Is a Long Way Away From RFK

link.esquire.com

It is important to remember that, earlier in his life, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. was one of the most important environmental lawyers in the country. He helped clean up the Hudson River. He was exploring the issue of environmental racism before there even was a term for it.

Cleaning up the Hudson was indeed a lasting accomplishment.

It’s a long and slow process for a river, or a tidal estuary, to clean itself, but it’s happening for real.

40 years ago, there were signs on all the piers in the Hudson saying “don’t eat anything you catch here, totally unsafe.” 15 years ago, they changed the signs to say that pregnant women and children under 15 shouldn’t eat the striped bass they catch here, but everyone else can have 1 fish per month.

Now, there’s kayaking and swimming. Just try not to swallow too much.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:44:47am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:47:13am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:47:29am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:48:20am

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Mastodon

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:48:38am

From this morning -

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:51:04am

re: #31 ckkatz

I think we are where we are because a bunch of dudes fully integrated into their souls that 90s ad copy about how computer nerds were going to be the new jocks. The vision was never to revolt again the old hierarchical model of coolness, but to stage an internal coup and just keep the hierarchy otherwise the same. They’re fucking furious that the internet hasn’t made them culture kings.

Techbros, grifters, and weird right dudes like catturd have in common a belief that they deserve everything, and thus the real crime is everyone not acknowledging them as the better kind of person they deem themselves. All of the tweeking and twiddling with Musk Twitter are attempts to manufacture that importance, to force the outcome.

As such, it’s a insult for them to not get a blue check, but also an insult for them to get no further acknowledgement when they get a blue check, and a flagrant insult for other people to not hold blue checks in the same value.

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:54:24am

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

Heh. These yo-yos are fundamentally lazy and don’t realize that “necessary” isn’t the same as “sufficient.” A lot of nerds ARE cool—-but nerd-ness isn’t the only thing they offer. Those cool nerds actually make cool stuff. Making cool stuff takes effort, and these yo-yos are too lazy to put in the effort.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:54:36am

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

You make good points!

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:56:23am

Why am I not surprised that dweeb Piers Morgan is an elmostan -

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:57:50am

re: #19 Dangerman

It is a constant that asshole Conservatives demand Liberals pay attention to them and demand they are given overall access. It’s a fundamental trait.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:58:38am

re: #39 ckkatz

Why am I not surprised that dweeb Piers Morgan is an elmostan -

Oh. Oh God. That suddenly made so much make sense. OF COURSE Elnostans find not paying $8/mo for a blue check offensive. They’re the kind of people who think artists should do work for free “for exposure.” They seem to think that there is intrinsic value in being popular on the Internet, and that people should pay for that privilege.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:03:36pm

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

I was reading the tweet below and realized that Ghost of a Flea basically said that in post #31 -

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:03:39pm

re: #39 ckkatz

LOL Stephen King a “struggling, obscure writer”?

King has been well-known as an author since “Carrie” was first published back in 1974. He’s had a successful career for almost 50 years.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:03:54pm

This seems to fit with this world of problems with blue checks! What we should question is our mammalian privilege…🤣

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:05:03pm

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:06:49pm

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

LOL Stephen King a “struggling, obscure writer”?

King has been well-known as an author since “Carrie” was first published back in 1974. He’s had a successful career for almost 50 years.

Elmo was probably still being potty trained when Carrie came out ;)

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Captain Ron  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:07:32pm
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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:07:41pm

re: #45 Teukka

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Wait till they realize that it’s Disney Lawyers that are “The Punisher”… ;)

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:07:42pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:07:48pm

re: #37 gwangung

I think the big thing is that a lot these dudes ooze transactionalism and self-involvment from their pores, and it limits their ability to reach people. As such, they largely dwell inside groups where there’s a pretty stunted vision of interaction, and they’ve convinced themselves that their goldfish bowl is a microcosm of reality.

They can’t be authentic, they can’t be vulnerable, so they’re limited to a mix of posturing and high-abstraction that has limited reach, but their core conceit is that they’re the new priests, the arbiters of things because

[various cultural fantasies of electness]

and when it lands that they’re not significant it’s an ego wound they can’t abide.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:08:42pm

A high-end home project manager I used to work with long ago looked like Willie Nelson: a diminutive man, long grey ponytail, few words but all listened when he spoke. Always kind, but still made it work well in high pressure design-build projects. He taught me how to drink and enjoy spirits in a poetic artistry with strong hints of Baldwin.

Another dude and I were waxing about the glory years of his tenure before he retired to Wyoming. Dude called him a Mountain Sophisticate and it made all the sense in the world.

I’ll tip my next cuppa high-end Kona to you, Mark. And I will always strive to use ‘X Sophisticate’ in his memory.

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:11:53pm

re: #50 The Ghost of a Flea

Yup. They want to bestow coolness on themselves and declare that they’re part of the in-crowd. But it doesn’t work that way. That sort of quality is bestowed by others on you.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:13:07pm

From the other day. I actually like this one quite a bit…

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:13:25pm

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:13:39pm

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:13:42pm

re: #49 ckkatz

Just putting this out there: If you’re picking fights with The Muppets, you are not the good guys.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:15:09pm

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:15:56pm

re: #53 William Lewis

Beautiful pics.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:16:50pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

I remember the whole ‘selling tickets’ phase.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:18:32pm
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JC1  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:19:49pm

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And they were defining factors in world history.

Which is part of the reason that world history is such a massive clusterfuck.

I love the crusade where they saved Christendom by sacking Constantinople.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:20:43pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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I run into this sometimes as an independent contractor for software development, too. People seem to think it’s cheap and easy to “build them an app,” and that it’ll be worth taking a deep haircut on fees because my name will be all over it on the App Store. First of all, no, my name won’t be all over it, yours will. You might have a point if we negotiated a portion of the sales into my contract, but you didn’t, you just wanted to pay me and be done with it. In that case, you will pay my rates, and by the way, I ain’t cheap. I know what my skills are worth on the open market, and people do pay it.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:20:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:25:38pm

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:28:55pm

So, I’m not entirely sure how it happened but just watched the finale of Star Trek: Picard and holy shitballs that was incredibly well-done. Some of the finest Star Trek TV I’ve seen in a long time.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:29:04pm

I never respond to request for bids to restaurants. They’re always cheap and if you actually get work they pare it down into a crap system then demand you show up and fix their Frankenstein system because ‘we’re losing business.’

I’ve had one restaurant in Kona reach out for a proposal 4 times in 15 years. Every time a new manager shows up. The first time I did a proposal the first time only to find they took my design and farmed it out to the local music store guy, who put in the same manufacturer but much smaller and less speakers with no subs. I got a kick every time I went in there and saw half the speakers aimed upward (because people complained they were too loud). But the best was when they had live music and they couldn’t get the feed to pipe into the audio system for low-level distro: the musician saw me and said ‘Hey ask him! He’s an audio dude!’ then they took me to the manager’s office to see what the music store guy put in: it was a mixing amplifier with a small hokey touchscreen. I couldn’t even figure it out. Might have been the pints I had. They said they’d never been happy because it was so hard to use and asked if I’d put together a proposal to make it easier. I said sure, give me a week. It’s been 5 years. Maybe next week, if I have the time.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:30:41pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:37:03pm

re: #42 ckkatz

I was reading the tweet below and realized that Ghost of a Flea basically said that in post #31 -

…I somewhat disagree with the tweet/quote tweet. Their behavior can’t be explained just as self-loathing, because the world is full of people with self-loathing that project that inwards, which makes them hard to deal with, even unpleasant, but does not consistently create this pattern of behavior. I struggle with self-loathing, a bunch of people I know and love do; rarely does it turn into this kind of highly-personal grudge against massive bodies of strangers. Most self-loathing people long for acknowledgement, are numb to it when it arrives, but never transform that feeling into aggression and contempt on this scale.

The step that makes them shitheads is the projection, that idea that everyone is responsible for their feelings, and everybody else is fucking up by not giving them acknowledgement. I think a lot of these people are the end-product of enclosed cultures in which they’ve either

(1) actually had acknowledgement, strictly within a small sphere of socialization
(2) been told acknowledgement is their patrimony
(3) view acknowledgement as something they should be able to acquire through naked assertion of power, ie by flashing money or institutional authority.

They tend to veer right because the promise of the right wing is that people will be sorted, and that the elect will be granted a kind of total hegemony that is Natural and Correct and will therefore bring them everything they need: love, sex, attention, deference, self-fulfillment, peace of mind.

But let’s be honest here…not every piece of shit on Twitter is strictly a reactionary guided by political positions: they suck in diverse ways but are united by that sense of entitlement…which quite often they acquired from mainstream cultural sources. We have angry men, angry “Western culture” people, angry whites, angry rich people, angry capitalist hustlers, angry pseudointellectuals, angry pundits…they are united in the sense they have been cheated what they are owed.

It’s the exact opposite of classical self-loathing, the deep internal sense of lack; it’s that they feel that they possess unarguable superior value and others are sinners and fools for not accepting this.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:40:19pm

re: #68 The Ghost of a Flea

The step that makes them shitheads is the projection, that idea that everyone is responsible for their feelings, and everybody else is fucking up by not giving them acknowledgement.

This is the mindset of most of the police in this country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:41:20pm

GAH.

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:41:58pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

GAH.

*BLERGH*

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:42:03pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

GAH.

Masculine virtues such as, “running away when the angry mob you incited comes for you.”

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:42:46pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t William Bennett already write that book?

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Unabogie  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:43:55pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

As I’m sure you remember, in the 90s it was common for bands to “pay to play” at clubs like the Roxy and the Whiskey. I spent a lot of time selling tickets to my upcoming shows and often paying out of pocket to give my time, talent, and money to the owners of those clubs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:44:14pm

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m not entirely sure how it happened but just watched the finale of Star Trek: Picard and holy shitballs that was incredibly well-done. Some of the finest Star Trek TV I’ve seen in a long time.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:45:59pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Hee Hawley advocate testicle tanning?

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:47:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:49:27pm

When your local weather map looks like this it is not a good thing.
weather.gov

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jeffreyw  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:49:33pm

re: #20 BigPapa

I’ve decided on developing a deeper relationship with yeast. I did a focaccia bread a few months ago with an overnight ferment. I messed up on the pan rise but it was super tasty. This time I did a 24 hr poolish first, now I’m at 12 hrs with the full focaccia with an overnight counter top ferment in the window sill. After two folds now it’s in the fridge for several hours. I’ll pull it out and do one rise to warm up, then a last rise in the pan before I top with sweet peppers, mushrooms, and maybe some fresh herbs.

While I’m contemplating how tasty my focaccia may be after a little help from a few billion of my closest friends partying it up and farting in my batter, I’m seriously thinking about doing fermented pepper hot sauces as a hobby. If I make big batches I can create my own labels and give to friends for holidays. If not, smaller batches for me.

Not sauces, exactly, good on all kinds of things.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:50:22pm

Gonna call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:52:01pm

re: #69 jaunte

This is the mindset of most of the police in this country.

Cops are a great example of an enclosed group that’s developed a self-pitying mythology in which they’re heroes in the abstract, to the degree that it’s treachery to point out how concretely they are heroes moment to moment.

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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 12:55:35pm

Ewan Dobson - Candyrat Medley - Guitar

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:05:25pm

I morbidly fascinated by the repetition: these people are incapable of understanding where the value of Twitter comes from, because if they understood they wouldn’t be able to participate simply through consumption.

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steve_davis  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:08:41pm

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m not entirely sure how it happened but just watched the finale of Star Trek: Picard and holy shitballs that was incredibly well-done. Some of the finest Star Trek TV I’ve seen in a long time.

do not spoil this, damn you! I finally got around to watching the end of season 2 with Q, and yes, I felt moistness in my eyes. There are so few series that manage to come to satisfying season enders that I’m just really touched when they pull it off.

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:10:07pm

re: #83 The Ghost of a Flea

Their coolness ain’t gonna rub off on you, son, because of the blue check.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:12:32pm

re: #85 gwangung

When Solomon Islanders do this kind of shit they at least, like, build a simulacrum of a cargo plane out of natural materials and do cool dances carrying wooden rifles.

I feel we’re learning important things about why so many of these dudes end up hanging around Jeffrey Epstein, or the local non-union equivalent: that’s a guy who will absolutely tell you that coolness and sexiness can be purchased.

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Captain Ron  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:13:45pm
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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:15:57pm

re: #79 jeffreyw

That looks amazing!

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ericblair  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:18:40pm

re: #83 The Ghost of a Flea

I morbidly fascinated by the repetition: these people are incapable of understanding where the value of Twitter comes from, because if they understood they wouldn’t be able to participate simply through consumption.

We’re all discussing this because it’s such an obvious disconnect that shows the MAGAt’s insane worldview. They paid for status, they paid for their place in the hierarchy, and now the nasty libtards are rejecting the hierarchy itself and it drives them nuts. They want to force people to respect them instead of earning respect and can’t understand why it’s not working, because they think they should be able to force everyone to do anything they want.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:19:00pm

I’m really interested in fermenting all kinds of veggies too, not just chili. To keep food interesting and fun. Trying to watch my weight and stay healthy, being a foodie just adds to the challenge and funzzles.

(Fun + puzzles)

I just pickled some white onion with sweet peppers, peppercorn, coriander seed, and cumin. It’s hella good. Would probably go well with… some fresh hot oven focaccia.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:20:43pm

re: #90 BigPapa

I’m really interested in fermenting all kinds of veggies too, not just chili. To keep food interesting and fun. Trying to watch my weight and stay healthy, being a foodie just adds to the challenge and funzzles.

(Fun + puzzles)

I just pickled some white onion with sweet peppers, peppercorn, coriander seed, and cumin. It’s hella good. Would probably go well with… some fresh hot oven focaccia.

One word: Kimchi. Mrs. Fish has a couple of jars that are several months old by now. We find we have to be in a specific mood for it, but it is tasty when the craving inevitably comes.

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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:23:34pm

and now… Austin TV

Austin TV - Full Performance (Live on KEXP)

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:23:51pm

re: #91 Nerdy Fish

Yup. HI loves them some kimchi. I loves me some kimchi. I’ll probably take a whack at that soon. I’ve already been watching videos on it and Napa cabbage is easy to get here.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:26:14pm

re: #93 BigPapa

Yup. HI loves them some kimchi. I loves me some kimchi. I’ll probably take a whack at that soon. I’ve already been watching videos on it and Napa cabbage is easy to get here.

I was going to say, I obviously don’t have to elaborate on the concept of kimchi to you, as you’re probably far more familiar with it than I am.

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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:28:18pm

Meanwhile, outside Gym’s hearing:

Protests as House panel holds NYC hearing on Bragg

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:29:04pm

re: #94 Nerdy Fish

I was going to say, I obviously don’t have to elaborate on the concept of kimchi to you, as you’re probably far more familiar with it than I am.

I’m not familiar with why Napa cabbage comes from Korea so I have to get familiar with that. Because food science.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:31:15pm

re: #96 BigPapa

I’m not familiar with why Napa cabbage comes from Korea so I have to get familiar with that. Because food science.

And on an episode of Iron Chef (the classic Japanese version, not Iron Chef America), I saw it referred to as Chinese cabbage. Such a bizarre and confusing vegetable.

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retired cynic  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:32:39pm

On the Edna Lewis Menu Trail, a toast to an iconic chef and her hometown
wapo.st (gift link)

This is the author of my absolute favorite cookbook: The Taste of Country Cooking.

Heaven.

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ericblair  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:32:41pm

re: #87 Captain Ron

Belgium has destroyed a shipment of American beer after taking exception to its maker’s slogan that it was “The Champagne of Beers”

Yes, because it violates the appellation d’origine contrôlée (AOC, controlled designation of origin). Champagne is a certain type of wine from the Champagne region of France, period.

While I’m somewhat sympathetic to this, most of this is bullshit agricultural protectionism. If you’re an up and coming cheesemaker or winemaker or whatever, you simply can’t call your cheese parmigiano or your ham jamon iberico no matter what the quality or taste, if it doesn’t come from the region. And then people don’t buy it, because it doesn’t have the AOC name and designation.

So OK, you’ll have to buy a farm in the area and produce it there, right? Good. Luck. These regions are all bought up by inbred families and organizations that are not going to sell to outsiders unless they are truly desperate.

If you think that the US agricultural industry has power out of all sane proportion to its numbers, say bonjour/hallo/guten Tag/hola to Europe. And just wait for the tractors to block all the traffic and dump shit on the Parliament’s lawn because they dare to make the farmers stop polluting the rivers.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:34:44pm

re: #89 ericblair

We’re all discussing this because it’s such an obvious disconnect that shows the MAGAt’s insane worldview. They paid for status, they paid for their place in the hierarchy, and now the nasty libtards are rejecting the hierarchy itself and it drives them nuts. They want to force people to respect them instead of earning respect and can’t understand why it’s not working, because they think they should be able to force everyone to do anything they want.

Except it’s not MAGA people as some kind of exclusive clade, which to me actually makes it really interesting to explore the deeper cultural assumptions that creates such jackasses.

Because I’d say this is very…

- late-stage capitalism hustle (I have my check and that’s power, and that will mean money);
- life in failing empire pursuit of empty gestures of power;
- social-media magical thinking such that the phenomenon (the check marks ) informs the noumenon (the clout accumulated through cultural relevance);
- billionaire/techbro smooth brain (we can recreate cultural hegemony to install our own culture-priests with minor tweeks to a UI);
- people that imagine that consumption can create individualist distinctions and intent on self-mythologizing this purchase;
- people with a parasocial commitment to imagining this has to have significance because billionaire Elon Musk is doing it
- people with capitalism brain-fog that imagine that rich people and CEOs must have smart ideas even if you can’t see the mechanism;

such that each jackass has reached the same end point from mulitple starting points. Not a myriad of them—there’s, like five or six Types of Guy on display.

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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:35:27pm

Boy Genius joins Muna at Coachella

MUNA - ft. boygenius - Silk Chiffon - Live at Coachella 2023

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:37:12pm

re: #97 Nerdy Fish

And on an episode of Iron Chef (the classic Japanese version, not Iron Chef America), I saw it referred to as Chinese cabbage. Such a bizarre and confusing vegetable.

I did not Googlize Napa cabbage and learn that Napa cabbage (Brassica rapa subsp. pekinensis or Brassica rapa Pekinensis Group) is a type of Chinese cabbage originating near the Beijing region of China that is widely used in East Asian cuisine. Since the 20th century, it has also become a widespread crop in Europe, the Americas and Australia. In much of the world, it is referred to as “Chinese cabbage”. In Australia it also is referred to as “wombok”.

I’ve known it a long time. At least 3 minutes.

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Jay C  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:39:49pm

re: #95 Thanos

Meanwhile, outside Gym’s hearing:

[Embedded content]

That caption seems to be incorrect: IIRC, someone from DA Bragg’s office was going to accompany prosecutor Mark Pomerantz in his appearance before Gym Jordan’s little roadshow. Probably so the Hon. Rep. from Ohio can get told to “fuck off” in as judicious terms as possible…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:40:15pm

re: #102 BigPapa

I did not Googlize Napa cabbage and learn that Napa cabbage (Brassica rapa subsp. pekinensis or Brassica rapa Pekinensis Group) is a type of Chinese cabbage originating near the Beijing region of China that is widely used in East Asian cuisine. Since the 20th century, it has also become a widespread crop in Europe, the Americas and Australia. In much of the world, it is referred to as “Chinese cabbage”. In Australia it also is referred to as “wombok”.

I’ve known it a long time. At least 3 minutes.

Brassicas went west and east and just became half of everything we eat.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:42:15pm

re: #103 Jay C

That caption seems to be incorrect: IIRC, someone from DA Bragg’s office was going to accompany prosecutor Mark Pomerantz in his appearance before Gym Jordan’s little roadshow. Probably so the Hon. Rep. from Ohio can get told to “fuck off” in as judicious terms as possible…

JORDAN: “So, my first question: Was Alvin Bragg’s decision to indict Donald Trump made because of his personal political beliefs?”
POMERANTZ: “Fuck off.”
JORDAN: “You are out of order! You will address this committee with respect!”
POMERANTZ: “Sorry. Mr. Chairman, with all due respect, please, fuck off.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:48:49pm

Three years ago today:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:50:12pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

Tony was right; DT was wrong.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:51:00pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

Tony was right; DT was wrong.

But that’s impossible. He’s a modern-day prophet - in fact, the messiah. He can’t be wrong.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:52:12pm

Me eating kimchi with any fatty or starchi food that goes good with kimchi:

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:52:47pm

re: #100 The Ghost of a Flea

Case in point:

Krassensteins are a Kind of Guy that like blue checks because they’re grifters that see checks purely as access to broader pool of rubes, and are thus above the ideological fray.

Here’s a different kind, a magical thinker who imagines themselves as the tea-leaf reader who’s discerned how smart Elon Musk’s plan is, but can’t actually articulate the mechanism of its efficacy:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 1:57:17pm
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Jay C  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:00:51pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I’m sure that that Tennessee RNC member is quite right. Also sure that the main GOP strategy to combat this problem will be to try to disenfranchise as many “young voters” as possible.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:08:43pm
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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:12:46pm

Mastodon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:19:17pm
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Thanos  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:28:22pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:33:31pm

First time, I believe, that he’s changed his display name.

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BeachDem  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:34:54pm

Add to the list of “why are people such fucking assholes?”

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:36:15pm

From summer 2015. I see a metaphor. Do you?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:41:37pm

Earlier this year there were stories (true or not I do not know) about users leaving Mastodon.

Last week the Guardian ran this:

Thousands fled to Mastodon after Musk bought Twitter. Are they still ‘tooting’?

The decentralized social network has seen user numbers drop in recent months, but tech-savvy users remain passionate.

[…]

“It’s definitely the case that it’s slowed down,” says Nathan Schneider, a University of Colorado Boulder professor who researches collective ownership models and runs a small Mastodon server called social.coop. “I think a lot of people came and found it a little hard. Using Mastodon can feel like eating your vegetables.”

[…]

Mastodon’s diminutive size has turned off digital marketers, who have mostly shunned it and other Twitter alternatives as niche “distractions” that would be a waste of ad dollars. But it’s also disappointing some activists searching for a way to get their message out without feeding Elon Musk’s machine.

…]

ohnathan Flowers, an assistant professor of philosophy at California State University Northridge, started a Mastodon account last November after Musk bought Twitter. But after he posted some observations about the racial politics of the platform, users demanded that Flowers, who is Black, hide those posts behind content warnings.

“Their problem was that I wasn’t following the cultural codes that they felt should prevail in the digital space … [they felt there should be] a social entitlement to comfort around issues of race and racism,” he says.

When he declined to use content warnings, he received a torrent of racist abuse in his inbox. “On Twitter, it took me a little over two years to say something that got me a bunch of racist trolls in my DMs and mentions,” he says. “On Mastodon, it took 48 hours.”

[…]

I remain skeptical about Mastodon. Anything more complicated than a vending machine (insert coin, pull lever, get goodies) is a hard sell.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:42:55pm

Sean Feucht, a proud MAGA preacher, expressed his bold and controversial Christian nationalist views during an appearance earlier this week at a church led by former President Donald Trump supporter, Jackson Lahmeyer, Rolling Stone reports.

Per Rolling Stone, Lahmeyer is not only the pastor of Sheridan Church, but also the founder of Pastors for Trump.

During his speech, Feucht, who “once prayed over Trump in the Oval Office,” insisted church and state should not be separate by saying, “America should be governed according to biblical law for the benefit of believers, as a way to prepare for the second coming of Christ,” according to Rolling Stone.

“It’s all part of The King coming back,” Feucht said to the congregation. “That’s what we’re practicing for,” he said, adding, “That’s why we get called ‘Christian nationalists.’”

alternet.org

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:48:27pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

Tony was right; DT was wrong.

Up until maybe the 1960’s, women with terminal illnesses weren’t told. Their husbands were told. (“why burden her last months or year with the knowledge that it’s her last months or year? She’ll have a better quality of life for her remaining time if she doesn’t know.”

123
PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:50:25pm

re: #122 sagehen

And menstrual pain was all in their heads. Yes I remember that.

124
Jay C  Apr 22, 2023 • 2:54:03pm

Lucky birbie today:

Click to Reveal

Wordle 672 3/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Seriously: the Wordlebot scored me a 97 (/99) for “luck” on my third & winning guess.
The right one out of 22 choices.
Yay me!!

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:03:16pm

re: #124 Jay C

Lucky birbie today:

[Embedded content]

Click to Reveal

Birbie with a woof on top is almost a beagle. Maybe a hawk.

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gocart mozart  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:04:25pm
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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:11:32pm

More info on B-17’s… Short article, complete.

EAA, Others Wait for Next Step on B-17s

EAA is continuing its repair and restoration work on its B-17 Aluminum Overcast and is working closely with the FAA as the agency considers the best path forward to safely getting these treasured aircraft back in the air.

While Aluminum Overcast has been sidelined since damage to a wing fitting was discovered during a routine preflight check in spring 2021, other B-17 operators have also grounded their aircraft due to possible wing spar issues. Those wing spar issues could lead to the FAA issuing an airworthiness directive for B-17s in the near future.

“Even the most robust airframes, such as the B-17 with its legendary durability, need proper care to ensure their safe operation for years to come,” said Sean Elliott, EAA’s vice president of advocacy and safety. “We all want to keep ‘em flying and keep ‘em flying safely. We at EAA have had excellent cooperation from the FAA as we jointly review the situation and find the best path forward.”

This past weekend, the Yankee Air Museum announced that its B-17 Yankee Lady would be grounded “out of an abundance of caution” and is not expected to fly in 2023. That also means the aircraft will not appear at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2023 as previously announced. Those who had already booked flights on the aircraft during AirVenture will be contacted directly by the Yankee Air Museum regarding refunds.

“The warbirds community is resilient and united on finding a path forward for these magnificent airplanes,” Elliott said. “We look forward to getting them back in the air in the future, with safety always the number one priority.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:18:49pm

Mastodon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:20:10pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

From summer 2015. I see a metaphor. Do you?

I have no idea what any of this is about. Who’s this person? What am I missing?

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:20:25pm

tonight will be the first time we’ve ‘dressed up’ since before…
not seeing colors too well, my clothes are two basic pallets
dark/black/blue
or brown-ish

tonight i will be dressed brown-ish
these shoes haven’t moved off the rack in years
the soles are cracking with each step…

it’s gonna be…interesting

131
PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:25:07pm

Rain and Thunder in Philly.

132
Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:27:38pm

Ben Folds - Rockin’ the Suburbs

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:29:04pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:29:53pm

re: #131 PhillyPretzel

Rain and Thunder in Philly.

Looks like it rained 3s in Brooklyn.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:30:50pm

re: #129 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dril

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:32:40pm

re: #114 Thanos

We watched Poker Face. Fun series.

137
retired cynic  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:38:03pm

re: #133 darthstar

SNORK!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:47:06pm

hi

The Texas Legislature is now trying to put a rating system on every published book, to help them ban books they deem inappropriate. Such a large market as Texas would be just like their textbooks: That would force publishers to make either two of the same book, or simply impose the Texas rating system on the entire country if it passes.

Needz moar people in Texas clamouring to have the Bible marked as sexually explicit.

Like most fascist laws, the bill proposes language so vague it would impose a self-censorious regime on Texas (and by extension, the rest of the country).

Texas House passes bill that aims to keep sexually explicit materials out of school libraries (Texas Tribune, April 19, 2023)

Twelve Democrats joined the Republican book-banning effort. The bill is HB 900.

If HB 900 passes into law, book vendors would have to assign ratings to books based on the presence of depictions or references to sex. A book would be considered “sexually relevant” if the material describes or portrays sexual activity and is part of required school curriculum. A book would be considered “sexually explicit” if the material describing or portraying sexual behavior is “patently offensive” and not part of required curriculum. State law defines “patently offensive” as materials that are an affront to “current community standards of decency.”

[clip]

Book bans have a long history of being implemented in a discriminatory manner, said state Rep. Ron Reynolds, D-Missouri City, during debate Wednesday. Titles targeted by book bans tend to center protagonists of color and tackle LGBTQ issues, race and racism, and teen pregnancy, he said.

Reynolds unsuccessfully tried to introduce an amendment that would require the Texas Education Agency to track which books are being removed from public schools. The bill’s author, Republican state Rep. Jared Patterson of Frisco, shut down the amendment, saying this bill was “not a race issue.”

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:47:42pm

Had some spuds in the closet that had sprouted…threw them in the ground on March 26. Here they are four weeks later.

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HypnoToad  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:52:40pm

re: #127 William Lewis

I was lucky growing up in So Cal. I routinely saw formations of B17’s fly near or over my house in the Summer and Fall. (Three’s a formation, right?) They were the borate bombers out of Chino airport on fire suppression missions. Once, very unexpectedly, I saw the CAF’s B29 on final for Brackett Airport. Gorgeous view and sound…and that sucker is BIG.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 3:57:21pm

re: #140 HypnoToad

I was lucky growing up in So Cal. I routinely saw formations of B17’s fly near or over my house in the Summer and Fall. (Three’s a formation, right?) They were the borate bombers out of Chino airport on fire suppression missions. Once, very unexpectedly, I saw the CAF’s B29 on final for Brackett Airport. Gorgeous view and sound…and that sucker is BIG.

I’m surprised the B29 could do that; Brackett is TINY. The longer runway is less than 5000 feet.


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