Incredible Heart-Wrenching New Video From Ren: “For Joe”

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After Joe died the visits I paid to North Wales were fleeting. By being somewhere new I could be someone new.

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After Joe died the visits I paid to North Wales were fleeting. By being somewhere new I could be someone new. Brighton didn’t just offer me a new chapter, it offered me a new book, and a whole new character.

On Monday I would make the difficult journey home because of music and the fund raising efforts of my incredible following. We managed to raise an incredible £21,000 for the RNLI, an incredible team of volunteers, who risk their lives without pay to aid calls of distress from British shores. The night Joe went missing they were out on the choppy stretch of water between Anglesey and the Mainland, until 5am, looking for Joe, without pay, from the goodness of their hearts. They continued the search efforts for the entire following week until hope dwindled. They owed us nothing, and gave us everything.

Yesterday I decided to pay a visit to Joe’s mum and dad. I was asked to play them the new live session I recorded in Calgary. It was probably the most nervous I’ve been playing someone a video that I’d made. The topic isn’t an easy one, especially for parents who have lost an incredible son. I nervously hit play, and the gravity of what I was showing sunk in and I began to cry. In the end we sat in silence, silently sobbing. Joes mum turned to me and smiled and we hugged, and I felt much lighter.

It made me really realise I guess what I’ve always known. Music is far more than music. It’s a channel of communication for the things that are impossible to say. It’s a bridge between the living and the dead. It’s a way to stay immortal. It’s a way to resurrect the dead. It’s a universal language. It cuts down barriers of the parts of you which are encapsulated in steel cast iron. It allows frozen rivers to thaw and become un-stagnant. I owe myself, my life, everything I am to music. Music is the closest thing to god I know. I am so grateful to be doing what I do and to tap into this mystic force. My life, my energy, myself, I eternally devote to it.

Filmed by Samuel Perry Falvey

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 30, 2023 • 3:59:40pm
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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:01:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:03:33pm

The only time the news media comes out here to the Old West is to showcase our tiny villages. (CNN, December 4, 2018)

This Nebraska town - population 2 - grew to 10 times its size for a Thanksgiving feast

The welcome sign reads “Gross, Pop. 2,” but one of America’s smallest towns has a lot more heart and holiday spirit than its size suggests.

In its heyday, the tiny town of Gross, Nebraska, was home to more than 600 people. But when railways and highways were built, they skipped right over Gross.

After neighbors moved away and children moved out, just two people, Mary and Mike Finnegan, still call the town home. For 33 years, the couple and their restaurant, The Nebrask Inn, have kept Gross on the map.

But this year, the town grew to 10 times its usual size when the couple, with help from ancestry.com, organized a Thanksgiving feast to bring their family back together just before the holidays.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:03:42pm

re: #2 ckkatz

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But it could have happened! ///

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:08:29pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You folks need a diner in your village. Think of the market for NYT journalists! ////

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:09:43pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:10:35pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:10:43pm

re: #2 ckkatz

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This Court is basically making a mockery of the idea of “standing” in order to take up any case they wish. The days of believing that laws or precedents were “safe” because it would be impossible for opponents of such to find a plaintiff with standing to get their case before the SCOTUS bench have effectively come to an end.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:11:14pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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Greta got top billing, over Mike Pence.

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:11:43pm

The Hoarse Whisperer @TheRealHoarse 3h
I don’t think it can be overstated just how essential it is that John Roberts go fuck himself.

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gocart mozart  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:11:50pm

RIP Alan Arkin

Grosse Point Blank

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:14:31pm

For now, one instance of Nitter is still working (I just checked).

tweet.whateveritworks.org

It doesn’t seem to work on individual profiles however.

Beks is still busy at Twitter posting the latest in Christians arrested for child rape, the latest a Catholic priest jailed for seven years for raping a thirteen year-old.

In addition to quickly sharing information about volatile political situations, Twitter was really the place where the rot in every denomination of Christianity was exposed. (Local reports of a pastor arrested never really get traction in the national news media so the scale was hard to envision.)

With the destruction of Twitter, Christian child-rapists can again go into hiding.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:15:41pm

re: #5 ckkatz

You folks need a diner in your village. Think of the market for NYT journalists! ////

We even have a diner, so they can double-bill it as a Cletus Safari.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:16:13pm

Ahh. The start of a 4 day weekend.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:23:38pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We even have a diner, so they can double-bill it as a Cletus Safari.

Do they accept credit cards or out-of-state personal checks?

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:25:54pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel ✅

Ahh. The start of a 4 day weekend.

Ain’t it great?

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:25:58pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:27:50pm

re: #16 Rightwingconspirator

Yes it is. Now I have to figure out when I should do certain chores.

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KGxvi  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:28:40pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

there’s going to be a lot of unintended consequences to this decision.

but more likely than not, I suspect that a lot of businesses that decide to discriminate are going to end up going out of business because of their strongly held religious beliefs. Social media is going to ruin their lives.

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KGxvi  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:29:03pm

re: #18 PhillyPretzel ✅

Yes it is. Now I have to figure out when I should do certain chores.

Best be safe and wait until Wednesday or Thursday.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:30:25pm

re: #20 KGxvi

They are things that are done around the house like laundry.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:35:04pm

You can still look at Tweets without an account but it’s much harder now. Twitter hasn’t locked down all avenues yet.

For example, this gives you the timeline of Stansaid Airport.

syndication.twitter.com

(https: // syndication .twitter .com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/StansaidAirport?showReplies=true —- with the spaces removed)

Put in the screenname and take out the spaces and you can still get the timeline with replies.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:35:29pm

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:35:45pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel ✅

Ahh. The start of a 4 day weekend.

laugh harder

/service industry worker

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:36:05pm

re: #15 A Three Hour Tour

Do they accept credit cards or out-of-state personal checks?

They do take cheques.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:36:54pm

re: #23 Backwoods Sleuth

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If you want to know why there’s a sudden interest in cooperating among former Trump employees, meet Co-defendant #1.

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A Cranky One  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:38:43pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:39:12pm

re: #19 KGxvi

there’s going to be a lot of unintended consequences to this decision.

but more likely than not, I suspect that a lot of businesses that decide to discriminate are going to end up going out of business because of their strongly held religious beliefs. Social media is going to ruin their lives.

Only in large cities. For the rest of us, it’s back to Jim Crow. Several similar businesses in a middlin’ town, one serves disfavoured customers. The other business owners all tell their customers “you don’t want to do business there because they serve _____.” The one non-discriminating business goes out of business.

Smaller towns are worse. If you only have one business of a type and they discriminate, well, you’re fuqued.

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gocart mozart  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:41:01pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:41:33pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Only in large cities. For the rest of us, it’s back to Jim Crow. Several similar businesses in a middlin’ town, one serves disfavoured customers. The other business owners all tell their customers “you don’t want to do business there because they serve _____.” The one non-discriminating business goes out of business.

Smaller towns are worse. If you only have one business of a type and they discriminate, well, you’re fuqued.

And then the town council does the numbers and keeps wondering why every year, more and more of the youngin’s choose to move to the large cities as soon as they’ve got that high school diploma.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:43:17pm

re: #27 A Cranky One

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I’d rather have Flaco Jimenez in my accordion.

—sounds better

—fewer bubbles

The good problem is that Flaco is still using his ghost.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:45:05pm

re: #2 ckkatz

Have at it.

303 Creative - Yelp

m.yelp.com

*edit*

They already shut down reviews. But I’m bookmarking for later.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:47:24pm
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darthstar  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:50:26pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

Have at it.

303 Creative - Yelp

m.yelp.com

*edit*

They already shut down reviews. But I’m bookmarking for later.

It’s not a real company. She just created it for the purpose of her SCOTUS case to help her establish standing. And the ‘gay wedding’ she was asked to plan didn’t exist - her ‘client’ is a straight guy with a family who swears he never asked her for a gay website plus he’s a web designer himself.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:53:35pm

re: #34 darthstar

It’s not a real company. She just created it for the purpose of her SCOTUS case to help her establish standing. And the ‘gay wedding’ she was asked to plan didn’t exist - her ‘client’ is a straight guy with a family who swears he never asked her for a gay website plus he’s a web designer himself.

This. And this.

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:53:46pm

re: #29 gocart mozart

Josh Marshall pointed out that there were no footprints in that beach photo. And claimed that it was actually done in a studio.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:54:57pm

re: #27 A Cranky One

Time for a Pulpit Pimp to perform an exorcism!

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Amory Blaine  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:55:22pm

I believe some legal precedent could be made that walling in a garden full of statements from elected officials is illegal. As an American I shouldn’t be forced to sign up to a private business to read real time statements from such.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:55:26pm

🇦🇺 Pink Heretic
@pinkheretic
*
13h
Replying to @hoverfrog
If they were libertarian they shouldn’t care what she does with her body. They should care about her freedom.

Mrs. Heretic being from Down Under doesn’t understand libertarianism.

I’ve seen libertarians argue that women should be redistributed by the government to single men. If there’s an excess of women, then another round for the men. (Woman being very loosely defined in age by libertarians.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 4:57:05pm

re: #37 ckkatz

Josh Marshall pointed out that there were no footprints in that beach photo. And claimed that it was actually done in a studio.

I saw that photo getting mocked yesterday on Twitter. Wags also noted Casey DeSantis is standing on her dress, and shadows go in different directions.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:01:05pm

re: #39 Amory Blaine

I believe some legal precedent could be made that walling in a garden full of statements from elected officials is illegal. As an American I shouldn’t be forced to sign up to a private business to read real time statements from such.

And elected officials would be providing content, in an ‘equal time’-free environment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:01:59pm

re: #37 ckkatz

As noted yesterday by other wags, we need to Make Colons Great Again.

The book title implies Casey DeSantis is a man.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:03:30pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As noted yesterday by other wags, we need to Make Colons Great Again.

The book title implies Casey DeSantis is a man.

Every Republican accusation is a confession, so…

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:04:23pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel ✅

Ahh. The start of a 4 day weekend.

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:04:52pm

Listing of every known Nitter instance.

github.com

Some may not work because they are down.

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:07:19pm

Marshall is now discussing the Grimaldi’s Pizza in NYC. Because DeSantis went to one and made an idiot of himself. Apparently there’s a dark secret involved with Grimaldi’s.

Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
It turns out that the Grimaldis next to @TPM , the one where DeSantis tried to throw his weight around, is the only non-private equity Grimaldis. The Grimaldis chain is now base in ARIZONA! The full story of contending Grimaldises is pretty wild. talkingpointsmemo.com
via @TPM

twitter (dot) com/joshtpm/status/1674920491373457408

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:08:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:09:00pm

FFRF
@FFRF
*
2h
FFRF has had the courthouse door slammed shut on the question of “standing” in some major cases where we painstakingly showed our injury and involvement. Yet this sham case, not meeting the legal threshold, involving what @SenWhitehouse calls “faux litigation,” was accepted.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:12:05pm
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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:12:51pm

Jesse Case
@jessecase
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5h
The news is always like: “America has banned wheelchair ramps because they weren’t in the Bible. Finland has made ice cream free.”

twitter (dot) com/jessecase/status/1674850537680797707

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:15:07pm

PRRI
@PRRIpoll
*
12h
83% of Americans say American society improves when women have more opportunities. 31% of #ChristianNationalism adherents agree.

Conversely, 1/3 of Americans say that in a Christian family, the husband is the head of the household, but 69% of CN agree.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:15:13pm

So my wife was happy with the birthday dinner, but she got into the white wine I bought as part of the recipe. She drinks a couple of glasses a month, but she got outside the better part of a bottle tonight. After dinner while I was doing the dishes she started singing “Birthday Girl” and asking me which band it was. “You know, Tim Caine said it was his favorite band!” I was stumped. The she said, “you know, that band that has a CD called “Tim” or something like that.” “The Replacements?”

Yes! She found the 2-cd Replacements thing I bought from a bin years ago that has out-takes and songs like “Like a Rolling Pin” and she loved “Birthday Girl.” So tonight it’s her song. She asked me my favorite Mat’s song and I said “Here Comes a Regular.” So she’s weeping to that right now. Gonna be an early night for my dear.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:15:59pm
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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:16:04pm

Jane C. Timm
@janestreet
5h
BREAKING: fired Fox producer Abby Grossberg, who claimed she was harassed, retaliated against, and set up as a scapegoat in the Dominion suit, has settled for $12 million
.
.

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EPR-radar  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:16:11pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“standing” from a wingnut judge is very simple. It means “we will hear only the cases that are politically useful to us.”

It’s just another corollary of “Conservativism consists of exactly one proposition…”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:18:28pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

You know what, it’s her birthday. Many happy returns to her, and hopefully she doesn’t regret all her life choices in the morning.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:21:03pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:25:58pm

Hemant Mehta Retweeted
Senator Megan Hunt
@NebraskaMegan
*
1h
Senator Deb Fischer’s Sunny Slope Ranch in Cherry County has paid $244,077 for her private cattle to graze on federal land that would cost approximately $2.9 million on private land. She has received millions in both subsidies and loan forgiveness.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:26:32pm

It’s a little tedious but you can kind of quote tweet on Mastodon.

Mastodon

I just manually retweeted the post then provided a link to the post.

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:27:23pm

Mark Joseph Stern (Senior writer, Slate):

“…Pretty ominous that Justice Gorsuch wrote 33 pages about same-sex weddings and did not once note that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, or cite Obergefell.
Unclear if a single justice in the majority is willing to affirm Obergefell at this point.

Not even a concurrence from Kavanaugh or Roberts saying “we accept Obergefell as valid precedent, but must safeguard the First Amendment freedoms of those who oppose same-sex marriage.” Just a portentous silence, as though Obergefell never even happened. It speaks volumes.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:30:35pm

The particular religion of zealots doesn’t matter.

18 Hasidic Schools Failed to Provide Basic Education, New York City Finds (New York Times, today)

“An eight-year investigation determined that the religious schools were breaking the law by not offering thousands of students adequate instruction in English and math.”

Eighteen private schools run by the Hasidic Jewish community have been breaking the law by not providing their students with an adequate secular education, New York City officials said on Friday.

The findings were an extraordinary rebuke of the schools, known as yeshivas, which receive hundreds of millions of dollars in public money annually but have long resisted outside oversight.

The determinations about the schools, which offer intensive religious lessons in Yiddish but little instruction in English, math or other secular subjects, marked the first instance of the city concluding that private schools had failed to provide a sufficient education.

The move was all the more remarkable because it was made by a city government that has shied away from criticizing the politically influential Hasidic community. And it stemmed from a long-stalled investigation that spanned eight years and two mayoral administrations and was often hobbled by political interference and bureaucratic inertia.

If the state Education Department upholds the findings, as is expected, the schools could be required to submit detailed improvement plans and undergo government monitoring. The law, however, does not make clear what consequences the schools might face if they do not commit to improving.

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:35:24pm

Last year “Angry Staff Officer” tweeted a very good series of posts about the Battle of Gettysburg story. I think that I will post parts of it here.

While I would have preferred to just post the tweets, I understand that there are multiple problems that may make twitter inaccessible to many. So I am trying the tack of just posting text. Let me know of any thoughts or suggestions about this.

The thread is located at twitter (dot) com/pptsapper/status/1542718941587464195

Jun 30, 2022
It’s near midnight of June 30, 1863. The Adams County countryside is filled with the unusual movement of thousands of soldiers. The night sounds encase both Federals and confederates, as they try to claim some rest after days of marching and riding in the unforgiving July sun

US Brig. Gen. John Buford has two brigades of cavalry, which he has set up in a wide arc to the west and north of the small town of Gettysburg. He has placed groups of mounted troops - videttes - at critical points along the roads to act as an early warning system.

Buford’s force has spent the last month riding hard - & fighting - across VA, MD, and now Pennsylvania. They are saddlesore and tired, but revived to no longer be on the “slave-accursed and God-forsaken soils of old Virginia” as Lt Jones of the 8th Illinois Cavalry wrote.

Within twenty miles of Gettysburg, upwards of 160,000 soldiers are engaged in the mundane acts of soldier life: guard duty, work details, and trying to catch some sleep. The civilian population is also - rightfully - nervous. It will be a long night for many around Gettysburg

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:44:28pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s also noted in the article that both Mayors DeBlasio and Adams ran interference for the yeshivas and attempted to stymie the investigation, which is why it took so long.

The organisation which brought the case to the attention of the Times and the city Education Department is a group of men who have been denied a basic education as required by law. They thank the Education Department for its final report and hope to see change in the yeshiva system.

The final paragraphs of the NYT article:

Mr. Adams has frequently praised the yeshivas, particularly in recent weeks as the investigation has neared its conclusion. The Department of Education conducted the investigation using its own staff members, but as mayor, Mr. Adams controls the department.

“Instead of us focusing on how do we duplicate the success of improving our children, we attack the yeshivas that are providing a quality education that is embracing our children,” Mr. Adams said in May while addressing a crowd of yeshiva administrators.

During a June visit with Hasidic leaders, he offered another strong defense of the schools.

“It’s unfortunate that those outside your community don’t understand that all you want to do is live in peace, educate your children and be able to provide for your community,” Mr. Adams said. “I know that because, as I stated, I’m not a new friend, I’m an old friend, and old friends respect each other.”

Then he accepted a plaque from Hasidic leaders thanking him for protecting yeshivas.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:44:39pm
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Unabogie  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:48:13pm

Spicy vegan sushi bowl with tofu and avocado. Made by Ms. Unabogie

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nines09  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:48:25pm

re: #2 ckkatz

Snowflake got feelings hurt and Supreme Court Of The Highest Bidder said, “Let’s get this party started.”
Never even attempted to do what she said she would be forced to do?
Oh, how about my feels, huh?
Land Of The Fleeced.
I told a grandmother once her grandson died in Iraq to be able to name that playground.
Feels pretty good, no?
Until they rename it for a cop…
She understood exactly what I was saying.
Few. Far between.
Years back before the full court Trump press.
See kids play on….
Is that Randys’ slide?!?
My two nephews served.
One Ranger in “never know what I did” because, ya know.
Sat phones and no names and gots ta go.
I suspect he was neck deep.
Knock knock stuff.
And the other joined Pa Army Reserves and got his ass shipped because..
Both made it back.
Ranger has issues.
Imagine that.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:50:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:51:49pm

Stansaid Airport
@StansaidAirport
*
2h
Replying to @species5618 @366DaiChallenge and 3 others
I heard that the bloke behind @StansaidAirport is a bit of a dick with absolutely no talent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:57:06pm

She writes “[Mississippi] courts are carrying on with business as usual.”

Taniel
@Taniel
*
7h
NEWS: SCOTUS just did something else, denying to hear the appeal of a Black man on death row that jury selection was marred by racism.

Sotomayor accuses MS courts of ignoring SCOTUS’s ruling: “Flowers will be toothless in the very State where it appears to be still so needed.”

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 30, 2023 • 5:58:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:00:35pm
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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:01:36pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sotomayor accuses MS courts of ignoring SCOTUS’s ruling: “Flowers will be toothless in the very State where it appears to be still so needed.”

And they accuse liberals of undermining the Court’s legitimacy.///

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:02:45pm

re: #57 Nerdy Fish

You know what, it’s her birthday. Many happy returns to her, and hopefully she doesn’t regret all her life choices in the morning.

She’ll bounce back. We’re going to Portsmouth, NH to tour the Strawbery Banke living museum that recreates life in colonial times. This year is the 400th anniversary. Thanks for your good thoughts!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:02:53pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:05:18pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Sleazy E may say that limited tier is “free” for now but I do not trust him one bit.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:06:26pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon ✅

Sleazy E may say that limited tier is “free” for now but I do not trust him one bit.

Free*

* = for Twitter Blue subscribers; everyone else can get bent.

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nines09  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:06:49pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

“BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE! IF YOU ACT NOW, AND SPACE IS LIMITED, YOU MAY WIN AN ALL EXPENSE PAID SUBMARINE RIDE TO MARS!!!! YES!!!! MARS!!!”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:07:47pm

re: #80 nines09

“BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE! IF YOU ACT NOW, AND SPACE IS LIMITED, YOU MAY WIN AN ALL EXPENSE PAID SUBMARINE RIDE TO MARS!!!! YES!!!! MARS!!!”

“For a little extra, you can upgrade your seat to be right next to the screen door!”

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:09:45pm

I’m just going to treat Twitter as the world’s largest unfederated instance.

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nines09  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:11:15pm

re: #81 Nerdy Fish

“For a little extra, you can upgrade your seat to be right next to the screen door!”

OXYGEN MAY BE A PRIME INVESTMENT! ACT NOW AND ENSURE YOUR SUPPLY!
SUPPLIES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE SOLD ON CONTENT AND PURITY LEVELS WITH PRICES REFLECTING CONTENT AND PURITY. CRYPTO ACCEPTED!!!

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Jay C  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:18:16pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The particular religion of zealots doesn’t matter.

18 Hasidic Schools Failed to Provide Basic Education, New York City Finds (New York Times, today)

“An eight-year investigation determined that the religious schools were breaking the law by not offering thousands of students adequate instruction in English and math.”

(more)

I’m somewhat surprised the NY DoE actually dared to issue a critical report like this: mainly because of the political clout the Hasids have, and like to wield, when it comes to “community” interests (like collecting City bucks for “education”). There’s a reason why Mayors of all races, creeds and origins have generally uncritically catered to said bloc…

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:19:13pm

re: #83 nines09

OXYGEN MAY BE A PRIME INVESTMENT! ACT NOW AND ENSURE YOUR SUPPLY!
SUPPLIES ARE LIMITED AND WILL BE SOLD ON CONTENT AND PURITY LEVELS WITH PRICES REFLECTING CONTENT AND PURITY. CRYPTO ACCEPTED!!!

Bugs Bunny on cue: “Hello? This is the station manager. You haven’t paid your oxygen bill lately, so we’re gonna have to cut you off!” (Off screen voice: “OK, Mac, vent it!”)
(Cue decompression or implosion scene…)
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:19:20pm

Dan Savage
@fakedansavage
*
8h
Re-upping my advice for anti-gay businesses: put a sign in the window or on your website. They won’t. They lack the courage of their bigoted convictions. And they want to hate on the down low so as not to lose the business of people who don’t hate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:23:05pm

re: #84 Jay C

I’m somewhat surprised the NY DoE actually dared to issue a critical report like this: mainly because of the political clout the Hasids have, and like to wield, when it comes to “community” interests (like collecting City bucks for “education”). There’s a reason why Mayors of all races, creeds and origins have generally uncritically catered to said bloc…

It got too public that religious zealots were denying an education to children and beating them in violation of state law.

That’s why Eric Adams was on the charm offensive just before the report was released.

The city Department of Education noted they only have authority to issue sanctions against a few of the schools, and is urging the state Department of Education to go after the others found violating state law.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:25:46pm

Hemant Mehta
@hemantmehta
*
10h
It’s telling that a “victory” for Christians at the Supreme Court never means more assistance to the poor or marginalized.

It means they get to shove their religion in other people’s faces or discriminate against groups they hate.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:26:21pm

I see Orange Pest truthed out Obama’s address and the suspect saw it and then went near Obama’s house with firearms and over 400 rounds before attempting to run away from Secret Service agents. Orange Pest should have his PR bond revoked.

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steve_davis  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:28:41pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

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….had to slice through someone in one blow, from shoulder to opposite flank…..holy shit that would require an unbelievably good blade, and extraordinary technique, both of which of course would have been present.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:29:30pm

re: #23 Backwoods Sleuth

Walt, trump may never see the inside of a prison, but you, m’man, are gonna be seeing it firsthand for likely the rest of your life.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:30:21pm

Purchased US Senate seat weighs in on the student loan case.

Senator Megan Hunt
@NebraskaMegan
*
3h
You seriously think everyone who has student loans is a doctor or lawyer? Be serious.

You support bailouts for corporations and are happy to take government handouts yourself. It is only a problem when it helps working people.
Quote Tweet
Senator Pete Ricketts
@SenatorRicketts
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10h
I want to thank former NE Attorney General Doug Peterson and @NEAttorneyGen Mike Hilgers for their work in achieving a great victory for the law and for taxpayers in Nebraska and across the country.

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ckkatz  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:31:22pm

France -

Fourth night of riots across France, after officer shoots and kills 17-year-old boy of Algerian descent. 45,000 French police are now deployed.

Rioting has also spilled over into Brussels, Belgium. Geneva, Switzerland surrounded on three sides by France, has halted many cross border trams.

bbc.com

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steve_davis  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:36:10pm

re: #33 DodgerFan1988

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It’s about no such thing. It’s about Achilles sitting out future battles because Agamemnon stole the woman he won as part of his war loot, and then finally getting enticed back in because his friend got killed.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:37:58pm

This is an awesome yet overlooked album of songs written by an absolute icon of pushing against barriers, Betty Davis. Highly recommend.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:38:12pm
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Belafon  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:38:27pm

Sounds like a company a supervillain would run:

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:39:14pm
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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:39:53pm

Sherrilyn Ifill:

Standing requires an 1) Injury IN FACT, 2) fairly traceable to the defendant’s conduct & 3) capable of redress.
So after # 303Creative, is #1 no longer required? Is standing now also a “two-step” inquiry. Just recklessly trashing the rules of the road.

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:41:15pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Stansaid Airport
@StansaidAirport
*
2h
Replying to @species5618 @366DaiChallenge and 3 others
I heard that the bloke behind @StansaidAirport is a bit of a dick with absolutely no talent.

He’s hilarious.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:41:18pm

re: #37 ckkatz

Josh Marshall pointed out that there were no footprints in that beach photo. And claimed that it was actually done in a studio.

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In Ron’s defense, there aren’t any beaches in Florida.

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A Cranky One  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:42:21pm

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:43:13pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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They’ll steal your code and sell it.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:43:22pm

re: #99 jaunte

Sherrilyn Ifill:

Interestingly, I said before that I didn’t think the Calvinball Court would stoop so low as to blow up their carefully crafted doctrine of standing in order to explode the administrative state in that one egregious case out of Texas. They have done exactly that here, which means that apparently, the one surefire way to get the Calvinball Court to say, “Fuck it, we’ll do it live,” is to make an argumentum ad Christendom.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:43:51pm

In Elon’s defense, who pays $44 billion for a website and expects people to be able to access it?

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:54:23pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

The thing about that is they would now have to overturn actual law. The Democrats passed it last term.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:57:55pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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Bear in mind what I said a few days ago re: the rulings on the docket: They always save the shittiest, most precedent-destroying rulings for the very end of the term, when they can duck out to the safe haven of Leonard Leo’s paid vacations and wait for the storm to blow over. Watch for the rulings that keep getting put off over and over again. I guaran-fucking-tee you, that “domestic abuser owning guns” one will be a last-day decision, 6-3, enumerating the full doctrine of the individual right to keep and bear arms, eviscerating every single aspect of gun control that has been passed in the last 100 years.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 30, 2023 • 6:57:59pm

re: #105 darthstar

In Elon’s defense, who pays $44 billion for a website and expects people to be able to access it?

A dumbfuck.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:00:42pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if, at this time next year, a dozen red states had passed laws allowing unrestricted access to automatic firearms. Because reasons.

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:03:13pm

Numbers for the day:
102 106

I thought the dome was going to start to lift out of Centex today.

Stupid, stupid, a_b!

Peter Falk was yelling “Serpentine, Shel, serpentine!”

I should have realized the Universe was yelling at me “Entropy, you moron, Entropy!”

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nines09  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:03:33pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:04:01pm

re: #109 Nerdy Fish

I’ll go a step further and say many of them will go the Missouri route and allow anyone, regardless of age, to carry a firearm.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:05:54pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:09:20pm

On 1 July 2023, cannabis use will be legal in MD. That’s tomorrow.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:10:51pm

re: #114 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

2033?

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:10:55pm

re: #112 Ace Rothstein

I’ll go a step further and say many of them will go the Missouri route and allow anyone, regardless of age, to carry a firearm.

Yes, but the National Firearms Act of 1934 currently severely curtails the ability of individual owners to keep, let alone wield, fully automatic weapons. I expect that to be struck down in its entirety with the decision that accompanies this case.

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:12:25pm

re: #109 Nerdy Fish

I wouldn’t be surprised if, at this time next year, a dozen red states had passed laws allowing unrestricted access to automatic firearms. Because reasons.

They can’t. Automatic weapons are licensed and require a $250/per year fee to possess.

ATF regs, in place since 1936, I believe. Although, keep in mind that if if you have a spare $1,000/year you can have four Ma-Deuces in your basement with ammo cans chock-full-o-bullets.

Quite the neighborhood defense force.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:12:31pm

Let’s give the “good guy with a gun” unfettered access to automatic weapons! Because “collateral damage” is for fucking nerds!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:12:46pm

re: #111 nines09

YOU CANNOT STOP MISS MOONSHINE FROM DANCING

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:14:28pm

BBC, nine hours ago

Boost for Wagner as Mali shuns UN troops, but at what cost?

The military dictator who overthrew the democratically-elected government of Mali has ordered the United Nations peacekeeping force out of the country. The Wagner troops currently in Ukraine will go there to support the government.

TL;DR, the UN force has suffered the greatest losses in any UN peacekeeping mission there. They are tasked with guarding civilians from terrorist attacks, enforcing the peace agreement between Mali and the Tuareg rebels, and providing basic services such as water and education in the northeast and central part of the country.

Mali’s dictator has ordered out the UN because they won’t support the Malian Army in clamping down further in the country. They previously ejected France for similar reasons.

Wagner’s forces have been propping up Mali’s government, but the new forces added to them will not equal either France’s or the UN. Moreover, Wagner does not have air power while France and the UN do.

Wagner is not interested in doing any of that.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:15:44pm

re: #109 Nerdy Fish

I wouldn’t be surprised if, at this time next year, a dozen red states had passed laws allowing unrestricted access to automatic firearms. Because reasons.

My son was over for the last three weeks and the other night we were discussing, among other topics like should he move to overseas to escape from the fascists here (where? Look at France right now :( and what type of firearm would be suited to him for self defense if necessary being an Asian man in a nation getting worse all the time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:17:38pm

re: #117 austin_blue

They can’t. Automatic weapons are licensed and require a $250/per year fee to possess.

ATF regs, in place since 1936, I believe. Although, keep in mind that if if you have a spare $1,000/year you can have four Ma-Deuces in your basement with ammo cans chock-full-o-bullets.

Quite the neighborhood defense force.

And there’s your next law-destroying Supreme Court case. A state passes a law to own automatic weapons. That is immediately challenged because it violates federal law. It winds up in the Supreme Court because conservatives don’t care how much tax money they spend to get their agenda through (see my state and the student loan case).

The bought-and-paid for Supremes then strike down the Federal Firearms Act as unconstitutional restraint on the II Amendment right to bear arms.

Cue Mad Max.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:17:55pm

re: #117 austin_blue

They can’t. Automatic weapons are licensed and require a $250/per year fee to possess.

ATF regs, in place since 1936, I believe. Although, keep in mind that if if you have a spare $1,000/year you can have four Ma-Deuces in your basement with ammo cans chock-full-o-bullets.

Quite the neighborhood defense force.

The tax stamp is a ONE time fee. Not annual. The biggest hassles are the storage requirements and the time it takes BATF (lots) to process the paperwork.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:18:47pm

re: #121 William Lewis

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:20:28pm

re: #121 William Lewis

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:21:00pm

‘MERICA!!!!

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:21:50pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And there’s your next law-destroying Supreme Court case. A state passes a law to own automatic weapons. That is immediately challenged because it violates federal law. It winds up in the Supreme Court because conservatives don’t care how much tax money they spend to get their agenda through (see my state and the student loan case).

The bought-and-paid for Supremes then strike down the Federal Firearms Act as unconstitutional restraint on the II Amendment right to bear arms.

Cue Mad Max.

May not happen - because the Billionaire class that owns the Six Corrupt Justices don’t want war lords in their back yards. No, they’ll let bubba have his gunz despite beating his wife but they won’t touch the NFA.

I could see them removing the restrictions on gun sizes and mail order of firearms from the GCA68 if they get the chance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:22:53pm

re: #127 William Lewis

May not happen - because the Billionaire class that owns the Six Corrupt Justices don’t want war lords in their back yards. No, they’ll let bubba have his gunz despite beating his wife but they won’t touch the NFA.

I could see them removing the restrictions on gun sizes and mail order of firearms from the GCA68 if they get the chance.

Or, they can outfit their private militias with automatic weapons without interference.

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:24:33pm

Not only does he prosecute crimes at the Hague, not only is he prosecuting Trump, but he also wrestles in the AEW (no idea which one this is, it’s on TBS):

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:25:04pm
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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:26:05pm

re: #125 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:26:29pm

New Brunswick’s Progressive-Conservative premier is taking cues from the Republican Party.

A controversial policy change that bars teachers from using a student’s preferred pronouns without parental permission will soon go into effect in New Brunswick despite pushback. It has caused political turmoil in the Canadian province.

In May, under Premier Blaine Higgs, New Brunswick announced that a policy to create a safe space for students who identify as LGBT in schools will be amended, with the changes coming into effect on 1 July.

The amendments to the Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity policy - also known as Policy 713 - removed explicit mention of allowing students to participate in extracurricular activities, including sports teams, that reflect their gender identity.

More controversially, the changes - as explained by the province’s education minister Bill Hogan - also forbid teachers from using the chosen preferred names and pronouns of a student under the age of 16 without the consent of their parents.

In cases where it is not possible to get parental permission, the policy states that a student should be sent to a social worker or a psychologist to develop a plan on how to approach their parents.

(more)

Your parent is a Christian who thinks LGBT+ people should be dead. But sure, a social worker can tell a teenager how to approach their parents.

Policy 713: LGBT school policy change causes political turmoil in Canada (BBC, one hour ago)

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:28:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:29:59pm

Senator Jen Day
@JenDayforNE
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1h
Hi could my friends in the press ask @NEAttorneyGen about his PPP loans that were forgiven (that, arguably, far outweigh an avg NEs student loan debt)? Also, please be sure to ask @USRepMikeFlood about his, too. Why do they deserve loan forgiveness but the rest of NE doesn’t?
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:32:28pm

re: #126 Ace Rothstein

‘MERICA!!!!

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Fuck Yeah!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:33:10pm

re: #133 jaunte

Did I read this correctly? The person had no standing and got this case before SCOTUS anyway?

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:35:41pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

“…a litigant must establish that they’ve been personally injured by the conduct they challenge before the court will even consider the merits of their claims.”

That’s gone now with the Calvinball Court.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:37:00pm

re: #115 PhillyPretzel ✅

😬

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:38:59pm

What is an “arm”?

I suppose that originally most people thought of it as a Personal Weapon, an extra arm, so to speak, that allowed you to hunt, or be part of a local, well regulated militia. You know, a member of a group that supported the greater good, as mentioned in the preamble in the constitution.

But as the art of war advanced, and weapons tech got more deadly, we ended up with repeating rifles, gatling guns, revolvers, semi-automatic pistols, machine guns, and rapid fire artillery (the dual use 5” 38-caliber naval gun of WWII was mounted on hundreds of naval battleships, cruisers and destroyers. A two-gun turret could fire 30 rounds a minute to a range of 10 miles.

Should this be legal?

How about an anti-tank mine?

How about Napalm?

How about Cluster munitions?

How about IED’s?

How about JSOWs?

How a bout Tac Nukes?

How about ICBMs?

I mean, they are all, at some level, “arms” aren’t they? Should anyone be able to buy anything they want, based solely on their wealth?

Crack open the door, and chaos ensues.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:39:39pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

Did I read this correctly? The person had no standing and got this case before SCOTUS anyway?

Yep. Plaintiff with a phantom business, forced to take on a job for a non-existent client, alleging purely hypothetical injury to her “deeply-held” religious opposition to gay marriage.

According to the MAGAt Majority on the bench, that’s enough to shred decades of precedent to allow bigots to bigot openly.

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:41:26pm

Revisiting Standing Doctrine: Recent Developments, Policy Concerns, and Possible Solutions
brookings.edu

“…Case law shows how much federal courts have wrestled with the difficult task of identifying an injury in fact. Beyond physical injury and property damage, economic harms have proven the least controversial and most reliable means of establishing injury in fact. In some cases, even speculative chance of economic harm has proven sufficient to establish standing.” 35

35 See, e.g., Bryant v. Yellen, 447 U.S. 352, 366-68 (1980) (holding that plaintiffs have standing to challenge regulatory action that might impact ability to purchase land even though they “could not with certainty establish that they
would be able to purchase” the land if successful).

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:43:15pm

“…Claims based on other types of harm, meanwhile, have often faced heightened and uneven levels of scrutiny. Plaintiffs challenging racially discriminatory policies, for example, have been held to lack standing unless they can show that they actively sought the opportunity being denied to them. 36
36 See Allen v. Wright, 468 U.S. 737, 738 (1984) (“stigmatizing injury caused by racial discrimination…accords a basis for standing only to those persons who are personally denied equal treatment by the challenged discriminatory conduct”).

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:44:10pm

They can’t teach law in Florida because people might see all this CRT built in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:44:25pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:44:46pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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He will suck you in and then pull the rug out again some other way

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:47:21pm

re: #137 jaunte

“…a litigant must establish that they’ve been personally injured by the conduct they challenge before the court will even consider the merits of their claims.”

That’s gone now with the Calvinball Court.

J. Roberts wonders why he gets less respect than R. Dangerfield

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:51:59pm

re: #123 William Lewis

The tax stamp is a ONE time fee. Not annual. The biggest hassles are the storage requirements and the time it takes BATF (lots) to process the paperwork.

Damn. So I can buy 4 Ma-deuces, 4 M-60’s, 4 BAR’s, 4 Bren guns and 12 MP-5s, pay 7 grand and I’m good to go as long as my Neighborhood Association needs them?

Hot damn! South Central Austin! We’re all here because we’re not all there!

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:55:32pm

re: #117 austin_blue

They can’t. Automatic weapons are licensed and require a $250/per year fee to possess.

ATF regs, in place since 1936, I believe. Although, keep in mind that if if you have a spare $1,000/year you can have four Ma-Deuces in your basement with ammo cans chock-full-o-bullets.

Quite the neighborhood defense force.

That could come in handy around Halloween when I get assaulted by ghosts, witches, baseball players, princesses, and other assorted riff raff.

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piratedan  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:55:33pm

re: #142 jaunte

it kinda boils down to “the law is, what we say it is” doesn’t it? Precedent doesn’t matter, standing doesn’t matter, and at this rate of trashing this particular institution; it’s going to need more than just a few guardrails to repair.

If I didn’t find their methods so repugnant, I’d say maybe we SHOULD persecute these people… they certainly behave in such a manner that they should be shunned.

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:57:31pm

re: #149 piratedan

Leonard Leo and his friends on and off the court have determined that the law is whatever is required to keep them and their families on top of the power structure.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:58:49pm

All these problems arise in the USSC because of the institution of the US Senate.

If the Senate was representative of US as a whole, and it currently is not, then:

1) a couple of the supremes could be successfully impeached; and
2) Amendments to the Constitution would pass which address several of the contentious issues.

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:59:24pm
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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 7:59:28pm

Just the tax stamp…
Transferable MG’s however are spendy…
M2HB? $75,000
M60? $110,000
MP5? $70,000
BAR? $35,000
AR? $50,000
AK? $50,000

The M2 Carbine I want is “only” $15,000 these days.

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:03:21pm

re: #150 jaunte

Leonard Leo and his friends on and off the court have determined that the law is whatever is required to keep them and their families on top of the power structure.

L’etat c’est moi.

Same as it ever was.

But really that boy needs to get kicked down a couple of notches. The Federalist Society is only as powerful as we let be.

We have let him have free rein. Time to drag that bit in.

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EPR-radar  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:08:29pm

re: #149 piratedan

it kinda boils down to “the law is, what we say it is” doesn’t it? Precedent doesn’t matter, standing doesn’t matter, and at this rate of trashing this particular institution; it’s going to need more than just a few guardrails to repair.

If I didn’t find their methods so repugnant, I’d say maybe we SHOULD persecute these people… they certainly behave in such a manner that they should be shunned.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition…” part infinity and counting.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:10:39pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:11:52pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:12:08pm

The reality right now is that we have six assholes on the court who won’t take a piss without getting permission from Leonard Leo.

And we have a house run by the corrupted Republican Party with a Senate where Boris Manchin and Natasha Sinema hold the whip hand. And both of them have sold America out.

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austin_blue  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:15:50pm

re: #153 William Lewis

Just the tax stamp…
Transferable MG’s however are spendy…
M2HB? $75,000
M60? $110,000
MP5? $70,000
BAR? $35,000
AR? $50,000
AK? $50,000

The M2 Carbine I want is “only” $15,000 these days.

Is that M2 a .223 gun?

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EPR-radar  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:20:05pm

re: #149 piratedan

it kinda boils down to “the law is, what we say it is” doesn’t it? Precedent doesn’t matter, standing doesn’t matter, and at this rate of trashing this particular institution; it’s going to need more than just a few guardrails to repair.

If I didn’t find their methods so repugnant, I’d say maybe we SHOULD persecute these people… they certainly behave in such a manner that they should be shunned.

Indeed. There are only two possibilities for the US political future. In one, Republicans crater mostly peacefully, and are nearly universally despised, much as Nazis were after WWII. In the other, they get to implement their fascist dictatorship and arrive at the same endpoint of being universally despised only after causing untold death and destruction.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:22:38pm

re: #139 austin_blue

What is an “arm”?

I suppose that originally most people thought of it as a Personal Weapon, an extra arm, so to speak, that allowed you to hunt, or be part of a local, well regulated militia. You know, a member of a group that supported the greater good, as mentioned in the preamble in the constitution.

But as the art of war advanced, and weapons tech got more deadly, we ended up with repeating rifles, gatling guns, revolvers, semi-automatic pistols, machine guns, and rapid fire artillery (the dual use 5” 38-caliber naval gun of WWII was mounted on hundreds of naval battleships, cruisers and destroyers. A two-gun turret could fire 30 rounds a minute to a range of 10 miles.

Should this be legal?

How about an anti-tank mine?

How about Napalm?

How about Cluster munitions?

How about IED’s?

How about JSOWs?

How a bout Tac Nukes?

How about ICBMs?

I mean, they are all, at some level, “arms” aren’t they? Should anyone be able to buy anything they want, based solely on their wealth?

Crack open the door, and chaos ensues.

The Heller case turned on definitions of the word “arms” as used in 1791. Justice Scalia wrote about it in its “natural meaning” (that is, carrying firearms for any legal purpose). Justice Stevens wrote about it in its “idiomatic meaning” (that is, carrying firearms in conjunction to military or police service).

At the time there were limited sources available for either position, and Scalia and Stevens both used them to bolster their arguments.

University legal and linguistic scholars have taken to digging up more original source material since then. Using reading source documents directly and using computer technology to index the two definitions, independent legal and linguistic scholars have come to the conclusion that while “arms” was occasionally used in the “natural” sense, the overwhelming majority of both government officials and common people used and understood the term to be its “idiomatic” sense (that is, only used in the service of military or police forces).

Legal Corpus Linguistics and the Meaning of “Bear Arms” (Duke University Firearms Law Center, July 16, 2021)

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:28:12pm

re: #160 EPR-radar

Indeed. There are only two possibilities for the US political future. In one, Republicans crater mostly peacefully, and are nearly universally despised, much as Nazis were after WWII. In the other, they get to implement their fascist dictatorship and arrive at the same endpoint of being universally despised only after causing untold death and destruction.

I believe the former is more likely although there is likely to be some violence. The MAGA Republican world view is too simple to sustain itself successfully in today’s social environment. They are like the dinosaurs after the asteroid hit. The mammals are going to win but the dinosaurs can still do some damage.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:30:53pm

re: #131 William Lewis

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:35:57pm

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:38:31pm

Every mastodon toot that appears on this page shows up only when I reload the individual comment — before that, what I see is a random tweet, text-only and with hyperlinks. Weird. Is anyone else seeing that?

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:41:10pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:41:20pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The particular religion of zealots doesn’t matter.

18 Hasidic Schools Failed to Provide Basic Education, New York City Finds (New York Times, today)

“An eight-year investigation determined that the religious schools were breaking the law by not offering thousands of students adequate instruction in English and math.”

(more)

I object to any public financing of religious or private schools. Children in these schools or home schooled should be required to take some kind of standardized tests to evaluate their progress.

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Cheechako  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:43:48pm
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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 8:44:07pm

re: #159 austin_blue

Is that M2 a .223 gun?

No, .30 carbine from WWII.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:01:18pm

re: #164 Joe Bacon ✅

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:04:52pm

I just did one of those famous Charles maneuvers where you get the fly out to the screen and then close the sliding window so it can’t get back in. It can’t get out either, I wish I could accommodate that.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:09:37pm

re: #164 Joe Bacon ✅

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:10:34pm

So, I was concerned about my medications. Details behind the hide bar on how I resolved it using the magic of the Internet.

The VA substituted my usual 1½ grain (97.2 mg) Phenobarbital tablets from Danish manufacturer Lundbeck with a tablet I don’t recognise from a company named ECI. A search of the company name yielded companies I don’t think are manufacturers of drugs: ECI Software Solutions is the top search, followed by ECI Cloud Solutions (probably the same company), US Bureau of Labor Statistics Employment Cost Index, Environmental Consultants, the Internal Revenue Service Effectively Connected Income, &c.

The miracle of the Internet (and what was actually promised to us way back when) provides several “pill identification” sites. You punch in the visual information of the pill or capsule in question (shape, colour, any imprinted information, if it’s scored or not, &c), and the pill search engine pops out the medication in question, the manufacturer, and all the prescribing information (including side effects, controlled substance class, inert ingredients, allergy information, what the medication is approved for, other uses of the medication, &c).

With that, I find ECI is a pharmaceutical company in Florida which has licensed the original brand name Luminal for production of Phenobarbital in the USA cheaper than it is to get from Denmark.

They do not, however, manufacture the smaller ½ grain tablet I also take, so those still come from Lundbeck.

Although this is a really niche search for information, it seems this is the kind of information those who put together the World Wide Web envisioned: An average person like me can get information which was previously difficult or impossible to get for personal needs or education.

In other extremely local news, the Battle of Broadwater is under way. Unknown rocket forces to the west seem to be having a battle with the artillery forces to the south.

I now return you to your regular political discussion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:19:29pm

re: #168 Cheechako

Who could have foreseen this?

Malpractice lawsuits over denied abortion care may be on the horizon

No one has ever been sued for denying abortion care before, so this will be a tangled suit if it comes up.

In the past, abortion providers have always reserved the right to deny abortions to “antis” because they will frequently fail to comply with follow-up care. As abortion is almost always an elective procedure, it can be denied just as a boob job can.

The wrinkle here would be denying care in a clear medical emergency.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:24:10pm

re: #170 William Lewis

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:24:47pm
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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:25:30pm

Jan. 6 suspect arrested near Obama’s Washington home had guns, machete in his van, feds say
msn.com

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:26:33pm

Bath-Salt-of-the-Earth, more like.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:27:01pm

I’ll see if this works behind a hidey. It’s a fuzzy spider of generous proportions.

Works in Preview. Did I say big?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:28:34pm

re: #121 William Lewis

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:29:13pm

re: #179 wrenchwench

I can see it in Spy, but not in the thread.

MICK RONSON & DAVID BOWIE-Moonage Daydream

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:30:53pm

I read the 3 major decisions of the Court from this week - affirmative action, loan repayment and LGBTQ web sites.

The members of the Court are not happy with each other. Large parts of the Court’s decisions and the dissents are filled up not by quoting law but stating how the other side is really bad at the law.

Jackson and Thomas have little respect for each other, with Kagan and Sotomayer close behind. The conservatives appear to state the dissents are not simply differences in legal opinons but a signs of feeble minds.

These opinions are really hyperbolic.

It really seems the conservatives deep down know they are wrong and are spending too much attention undercuttting the dissent rather than pushing their affirmatives. They protest too much.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:33:59pm

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No one has ever been sued for denying abortion care before, so this will be a tangled suit if it comes up.

In the past, abortion providers have always reserved the right to deny abortions to “antis” because they will frequently fail to comply with follow-up care. As abortion is almost always an elective procedure, it can be denied just as a boob job can.

The wrinkle here would be denying care in a clear medical emergency.

Nobody’s shot at an uneventfully healthy future is improved by a boob job, unless we’re talking cancer care. Everybody’s chances are improved by not being pregnant nor giving birth. Especially in the US, especially in Texas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:34:26pm

Wholly crap! The artillery brigade to my south is now launching commercial-grade fireworks from the street between the church and the park.

In local politics, I wonder if at the next village board meeting I should bring up an ordinance to limit the sorts of fireworks which can be used (no commercial chrysanthemum-style fireworks, no mortars, no using the public streets as your personal launch pad, &c). On the other hand, I’d probably be tarred-and-feathered for suggesting maybe reining in the types of ordinance allowed within the municipal limits.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:35:54pm

re: #181 jaunte

I can see it in Spy, but not in the thread.

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I wonder if Spy sometimes works better because it was built more recently.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:36:08pm

re: #180 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:36:49pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Nobody’s shot at an uneventfully healthy future is improved by a boob job, unless we’re talking cancer care. Everybody’s chances are improved by not being pregnant nor giving birth. Especially in the US, especially in Texas.

Boob jobs: YouTube, OnlyFans, PornHub, and gold diggers enter the chat. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:45:02pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So if you’re interested (I know you’re not), this is what a pill search engine yielded about my enquiry.

drugs.com

You get all sorts of information not contained in a drug facts sheet, such as the FDA approval history, photographs of the pill in question, availability, &c.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:46:22pm

So in episode 5 han solo is banging Luke’s sister but they’re still not acknowledging it, and Luke is too impatient to do his training. This is going to cost him an arm or a leg.

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:47:23pm

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No one has ever been sued for denying abortion care before, so this will be a tangled suit if it comes up.

In the past, abortion providers have always reserved the right to deny abortions to “antis” because they will frequently fail to comply with follow-up care. As abortion is almost always an elective procedure, it can be denied just as a boob job can.

The wrinkle here would be denying care in a clear medical emergency.

Part of the problem is that the laws carefully do not detail what a clear medical emergency is. This is on purpose. So the hospital lawyers are making the doctors in red states wait until an ectopic pregnancy ruptures the fallopian tube, or an incomplete miscarriage has sent the woman into septic shock, before an abortion is allowed.

Organ failure and extreme blood loss are now requirements for an emergency abortion.That is not the standard of care. In blue states, the woman is not put under such extreme burdens. The courts are going to get involved in these decisions now.

Are a woman’s civil rights infringed if a red state treats her differently than a blue state?

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:49:00pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Nobody’s shot at an uneventfully healthy future is improved by a boob job, unless we’re talking cancer care. Everybody’s chances are improved by not being pregnant nor giving birth. Especially in the US, especially in Texas.

I’m not going to be surprised if there is a Federal civil rights case come out of this. Are a woman’s civil rights violated by the difference in standard of medical care in Red States vs Blue states?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:54:53pm

re: #191 silverdolphin

I’m not going to be surprised if there is a Federal civil rights case come out of this. Are a woman’s civil rights violated by the difference in standard of medical care in Red States vs Blue states?

The problem is states have always reserved the right to regulate medical standards of care, whether pharmaceutical or otherwise.

Repeated court cases have affirmed the rights of state health departments to determine what is legal within a state. Without a nationwide healthcare standard, this kind of crap will continue coming up.

You also see the same in education, most often framed as “local control.” That means liberal states provide comprehensive sex education whilst conservative states suppress the same information.

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:57:15pm

The Hyde Amendment is a violation of civil rights.

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:58:05pm

‘I can already see the ads being written’: Analyst says GOP will face blowback over SCOTUS rulings

This is going to pull a lot of young people out (47 million have loans). And, those who say “this is my money paying for white collar folks who are already earning money. Let them pay their loans back.” were not going to ever vote for Biden anyway.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2023 • 9:59:52pm

re: #186 William Lewis

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:00:50pm

The artillery duel seems to be settling down. I’m going to take that as my cue to go to bed. Catch y’all later,

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:02:47pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The artillery duel seems to be settling down. I’m going to take that as my cue to go to bed. Catch y’all later,

Night. we should be getting the artillery shells over the weekend. Luckily, for the first time in years we do not have any dogs, so things should be a little netter.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:06:25pm

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:14:45pm

“…Roberts’s opinion in Nebraska effectively overrules the decision of both elected branches of government. It overrides Congress’s unambiguous decision to give this power to the secretary of Education. And it overrules the executive branch’s judgment about how to exercise the authority that Congress gave it. As Kagan writes in dissent, “the Secretary did only what Congress had told him he could.”
vox.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:19:04pm

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:21:17pm
A social media influencer with ties to the QAnon movement has been sentenced to jail for falsely accusing a Latino couple of trying to kidnap her children, Law & Crime reported on Friday.

“Kathleen ‘Katie’ Sorensen, a white mother of two, made an Instagram video in which she made up a story about Sadie Vega-Martinez and Eddie Martinez — a Hispanic couple she did not know — trying to kidnap her then 4-year-old son and 1-year-old daughter,” reported Jason Kandel.

She was sent to prison for 90 days Thursday on a count of knowingly making a false report of a crime, the website reported.

Sorensen, who lives in California, originally went viral in 2020 as she claimed in a video from her car that a couple, later revealed to be Eddie and Sadie Vega-Martinez, tried to abduct her children at a Michael’s craft store.

But her story fell apart almost immediately as police found “inconsistencies,” and it turned out the whole thing was fabricated. She was arrested in May 2021.

QAnon ‘momfluencer’ sentenced to prison for accusing Latino couple of abducting her children (RS via MSN)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:26:57pm

re: #200 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

The map is deceptive, though, because the coloration is a function of average wage. It makes San Francisco look affordable because people living in SFO tend to be professionals with very high paying jobs.

Rents are high here because of competition. Lots of people, lots of people (and corporations) with money, all vying for limited space (coastal counties.)

Contrary to the hate-mongering right-wing talkers who rag on California, real estate here is a function of the free market. It is capitalism in all its glory: he who has the capital can buy land and make more money.

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JC1  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:42:33pm

re: #154 austin_blue

L’etat c’est moi.

Same as it ever was.

But really that boy needs to get kicked down a couple of notches. The Federalist Society is only as powerful as we let be.

We have let him have free rein. Time to drag that bit in.

They’re essentially powerless if we don’t elect any more GOP presidents.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jun 30, 2023 • 10:46:02pm

re: #203 JC1

They’re essentially powerless if we don’t elect any more GOP presidents.

If all of us were engaged with reality and believed in rule of law and democracy, that would be easy, but so many Americans are malicious or stupid and hooked on propaganda that tells them down is up.

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silverdolphin  Jun 30, 2023 • 11:09:13pm

re: #199 jaunte

“…Roberts’s opinion in Nebraska effectively overrules the decision of both elected branches of government. It overrides Congress’s unambiguous decision to give this power to the secretary of Education. And it overrules the executive branch’s judgment about how to exercise the authority that Congress gave it. As Kagan writes in dissent, “the Secretary did only what Congress had told him he could.”
vox.com

This is getting to be truly illegitimate Court. Thomas and Alito already despise the three liberals (They all but call the women hysterical.) And the decisions are truly horrible. What about standing? The web designer never was asked to make a site so her harm is purely hypothetical. Which should moot standing. Yet they gave it too her.

So, could I sue in Florida because I might commit suicide because I was not allowed to ead a book that would have shown me an other way? Of course not because this Calvinball Court makes its own laws.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 30, 2023 • 11:26:27pm

re: #205 silverdolphin

And the decisions are truly horrible. What about standing? The web designer never was asked to make a site so her harm is purely hypothetical. Which should moot standing. Yet they gave it too her.

I could easily argue that, under those circumstances, namely, that the case was filed under false pretenses, the SCOTUS decision in 303 Creative v Elenis is null and void.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2023 • 1:59:20am

In translating from diplomatese language, this would be called “shitting themselves” in colloquial English:

China has urged the Netherlands to not hinder bilateral cooperation in the semiconductor industry and to not abuse export controls, China’s Ministry of Commerce said in a statement.

The statement was made in response to questions from the media, it said. It also said the two countries have communicated frequently and at various levels on the topic.

The Dutch government on Friday announced new restrictions on exports of some semiconductor equipment, boosting a U.S.-led drive to curb supplies of high-tech components to China.

reuters.com

This is gonna throw a monkeywrench into China’s future tech plans. They’ll end up being stuck making older-gen products.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 1, 2023 • 1:59:37am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

I could easily argue that, under those circumstances, namely, that the case was filed under false pretenses, the SCOTUS decision in 303 Creative v Elenis is null and void.

It’s not though; it’s binding precedent, and that argument would get you precisely nowhere in court.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:05:59am

re: #84 Jay C

I’m somewhat surprised the NY DoE actually dared to issue a critical report like this: mainly because of the political clout the Hasids have, and like to wield, when it comes to “community” interests (like collecting City bucks for “education”). There’s a reason why Mayors of all races, creeds and origins have generally uncritically catered to said bloc…

The point of homeschooling is cult brainwashing by sparing the child any exposure to outside ideas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:16:50am

re: #160 EPR-radar

Indeed. There are only two possibilities for the US political future.

The GOP knows they have to move quickly to secure their political power because demographis are working against them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:18:52am

re: #153 William Lewis

The M2 Carbine I want is “only” $15,000 these days.

I am not a gun enthusiast or even a gun owner, but that is a weapon I would like to have.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:19:32am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

It’s not though; it’s binding precedent, and that argument would get you precisely nowhere in court.

Only until there is a sane majority again. Then it will be the core of overturning it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:20:01am

re: #171 wrenchwench

I just did one of those famous Charles maneuvers where you get the fly out to the screen and then close the sliding window so it can’t get back in. It can’t get out either, I wish I could accommodate that.

My ex-wife once did that with a wasp and then failed to warn me of its presence…

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TarHellion  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:24:48am

Eh, nothing wrong with par.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:26:11am

re: #201 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

“Kathleen ‘Katie’ Sorensen, a white mother of two, made an Instagram video in which she made up a story about Sadie Vega-Martinez and Eddie Martinez — a Hispanic couple she did not know — trying to kidnap her then 4-year-old son and 1-year-old daughter,” reported Jason Kandel.

Katie is Karen on Steroids

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:31:05am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:32:04am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:34:28am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:36:12am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:37:13am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:38:43am

Plus all that bearing false witness stuff

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:40:21am

re: #220 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:42:28am

re: #182 silverdolphin

It really seems the conservatives deep down know they are wrong and are spending too much attention undercuttting the dissent rather than pushing their affirmatives. They protest too much.

Authoritarians can’t just win. They cannot tolerate any sort of dissent, even by the powerless. If you aren’t kissing their asses about how smart and great they are they will keep coming at you, because they are shitty thin-skinned little people who shouldn’t be in charge of a backyard barbeque much less a country.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:42:58am

re: #219 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:44:08am
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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:44:55am

re: #222 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Reporter: Why did you give millions of Americans false hope?

Our media, ladies and gents. Of course it’s Biden’s fault.

ETA: I see the Oracle of the Pitchbot has spoken on this matter. I expect no less.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:47:12am

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:56:34am

This is from the Daily Mail, but it’s a rather interesting and humorous tale about how a local urban legend in Dartmouth, England - namely, that the wreckage of a WWI-era Royal Navy submarine was buried under the town park - turned out to be very much true.

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 2:59:28am

26 users on line. Back to league rugby teams

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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 3:00:17am

Yes, you tried to kill them, so maybe they don’t want you to know where they are so you can give it another go.

Like MAGAts, it’s hard to tell whether they’re deliberately being assholes or no longer know any other way of interacting with society.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 3:00:42am

re: #226 ericblair

Our media, ladies and gents. Of course it’s Biden’s fault.

ETA: I see the Oracle of the Pitchbot has spoken on this matter. I expect no less.

Biden let us know it is possible, but to make it happen, we have to get out and vote and then make sure those votes are counted, registered and verified by the responsible authorities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 3:06:38am

re: #230 ericblair

Like MAGAts, it’s hard to tell whether they’re deliberately being assholes or no longer know any other way of interacting with society.

A lot of MAGA and conservative thought is an expression of a personality disorder: cantankerous contrarians who enjoy getting a rise out of people and would rather win an arguent through bluster and rhetoric than to really discuss a topic.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 1, 2023 • 3:26:36am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 3:41:46am

re: #214 TarHellion

Bah.
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jul 1, 2023 • 4:12:33am

Unbelievable, for the first time in over 20 years I essentially will not be able to view the Tour de France
NBC has move almost all live coverage to Peacock streaming, which made almost all programming part of their premium service [pay] at midnight last night.
There will be a couple truncated live broadcasts of stages on NBC or USA. And edited rebroadcasts of stage coverage starting @ 2AM EST the following day

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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 4:26:49am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 4:34:31am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

It’s not though; it’s binding precedent, and that argument would get you precisely nowhere in court.

as this court has demonstrated, only until it’s not

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 1, 2023 • 4:42:28am

I think at this point the Roberts Court has achieved being the worst Supreme Court period. Exceeding the Taney Court.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 4:53:47am

re: #238 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think at this point the Roberts Court has achieved being the worst Supreme Court period. Exceeding the Taney Court.

roberts knows it
- knows his legacy is toast
- knows he cant do anything about it

thats why he made that ridiculous statement about respect

maybe he really meant balls and strikes when he said it
in the end this is an extensions of ETTD
you dont thing TFG has anything to do with this?

how about one, maybe two lost dem scotus nominations (partial thanks to mcconnell)

and when you’re given the likes of gorsuch, kavanaugh and barret to work with, on top of thomas and alito, you think jurisprudence is gonna happen?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:23:40am

re: #165 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Every mastodon toot that appears on this page shows up only when I reload the individual comment — before that, what I see is a random tweet, text-only and with hyperlinks. Weird. Is anyone else seeing that?

Yes. Me. In my iPhone.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:32:48am

re: #168 Cheechako

Who could have foreseen this?

Malpractice lawsuits over denied abortion care may be on the horizon

Since standing doesn’t matter any longer, everyone should sue! Why wait for people to die? Sue early! Sue often!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:35:55am

Ah the Post reciting Republican talking points on the court decisions.

Endless Pre$$titution.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:36:33am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:38:41am

So I got this notice on Twitter.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 5:55:43am

Apparently our light bulbs are wattled

And there was only 4 in there even though it says 8

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:00:28am

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Since standing doesn’t matter any longer, everyone should sue! Why wait for people to die? Sue early! Sue often!

Doctors willl have to decide:
Get sued for doing something
Get sued for doing nothing

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:03:50am

Whew. I just finished setting up and installing my portable A/C unit in the front room. At least it will be a little bit cooler in my home office.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:04:11am

re: #226 ericblair

Our media, ladies and gents. Of course it’s Biden’s fault.

ETA: I see the Oracle of the Pitchbot has spoken on this matter. I expect no less.

“Why do you keep hitting yourself?”

-says big brother taking hands of little brother and slapping him in the face repeatedly.

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jeffreyw  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:18:23am

Happy Caturday from Ginger Boy

Good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:21:34am

re: #219 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:26:19am

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Since standing doesn’t matter any longer, everyone should sue! Why wait for people to die? Sue early! Sue often!

We just don’t have anyone on the left willing to spend the time and money for lawsuits like this.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:28:01am

Elgon is fucking with shit again.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:28:10am

re: #249 jeffreyw

Ginger Boy is a beautiful cat.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:37:46am

re: #246 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Doctors willl have to decide:
Get sued for doing something
Get sued for doing nothing

From the article:

She sought the counsel of Benjamin Crump, a prominent attorney known for pursuing high-profile cases like wrongful death lawsuits on behalf of the families of Trayvon Martin and George Floyd.

But Crump said that after studying Davis’ legal options, he decided a judge would likely dismiss a malpractice suit and that Davis could end up paying the defendants’ legal fees and costs.

“The doctor’s lawyers will say, ‘You can’t expect my client to break the law and go to prison for up to 25 years,’” Crump said. “Unless you change the law, there is no option for her to receive compensation.”

It’s fucking insidious. The entire thing.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:41:06am

re: #250 No Malarkey!

The same Republican politicians who complained that taxpayers were being forced to take on the burden of student loans gleefully voted to transfer the burden of funding the federal government to those same taxpayers from billionaires and multinational corporations.

Biden could have been even more direct:

Who do you think paid for your forgiven ppp loans?

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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:44:13am

re: #251 Belafon

We just don’t have anyone on the left willing to spend the time and money for lawsuits like this.

No, it’s Calvinball.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:45:07am

That was a weird word. It took a few minutes to find a possibility.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:47:25am

The purge has started.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 1, 2023 • 6:56:42am

Happy Canada Day to all my friends to the north. *waves vaguely out of my home office window*

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austin_blue  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:18:54am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am not a gun enthusiast or even a gun owner, but that is a weapon I would like to have.

Audie Murphy swore by it.

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:19:14am

re: #219 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Thanos  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:19:41am

re: #245 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Apparently our light bulbs are wattled

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And there was only 4 in there even though it says 8

Hey, that’s ‘retha Franklin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:21:56am

re: #261 austin_blue

Audie Murphy swore by it.

yes, the M2 carbine has an incredible history and is a brilliant weapon. If I lived in a place where I could just go off and shoot at random (inanimante) objects for fun, I would consider owning one.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:22:07am

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Bah.
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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:23:10am

re: #227 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:26:17am

re: #236 ericblair

Your left off the Eh? Disappointing.

Happy Canada Day, eh?

It’s law up here, eh?

😁

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:26:49am

re: #238 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think at this point the Roberts Court has achieved being the worst Supreme Court period. Exceeding the Taney Court.

I have to disagree here. The Taney Dred Scott decision makes Taney the worst court of all time. The Roberts Court is a close 2nd. If the election decisions had gone the way we feared, then it would have definitely have moved Roberts into 1st place in worst court rankings.

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:33:36am

re: #238 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think at this point the Roberts Court has achieved being the worst Supreme Court period. Exceeding the Taney Court.

Well, the Dred Scot decision did lead to a worldwide recession and thousands of bank runs, as well as Civil War.. So Taney does have that;-) So far.

I’ve always thought the Plessy/Lochner era court was the closest to the Robert’s Court. As Rpberts himself said about that period, “”You go to a case like the Lochner case, you can read that opinion today and it’s quite clear that they’re not interpreting the law, they’re making the law.” Ironic?

Just as FDR dismantled the Lochner Court decisions, so will Biden with the Robert’s Court. He has already begun.

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jeffreyw  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:35:09am

re: #253 PhillyPretzel ✅

Ginger Boy is a beautiful cat.

He is scaredy beautiful. By that I mean he is a scaredy-cat. He is officially the least senior and he knows it.

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:41:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:42:38am

Man-spider, man spider
does whatever a man can
mows the lawn, rakes the leaves
catches flies just like thieves

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:43:30am

re: #271 Belafon

Reload. I included a reply.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:44:26am

re: #272 darthstar

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So Spider-pig.

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:45:18am

Had 3 letters from the get go and still took a bogey that sounded like someone shouting FUCK! on prime time network TV

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:46:20am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:48:03am

re: #277 teleskiguy

My favorite line is If you don’t vote don’t complain.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:48:15am

My little way of pushing back against the progressive left saying it’s *our* fault, the voters, the DNC, whatever, that this is happening because Hillary was the nominee in 2016. Seriously, fuck all the way off with that bullshit, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:50:06am

re: #267 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Your left off the Eh? Disappointing.

Happy Canada Day, eh?

It’s law up here, eh?

😁

By the way, this wasn’t randomly pulled off the Internet. That’s all my stuff in the photo.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:50:06am

re: #279 teleskiguy

My little way of pushing back against the progressive left saying it’s *our* fault, the voters, the DNC, whatever, that this is happening because Hillary was the nominee in 2016. Seriously, fuck all the way off with that bullshit, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

For fuck’s sake, she won the goddamn popular vote. That she got screwed over by James Comey’s little publicity stunt is hardly her, or the DNC’s, fault.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:50:24am

Seeing a lot of bickering on the online left. Meanwhile, this is what we’re up against.

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:52:18am

re: #279 teleskiguy

My little way of pushing back against the progressive left saying it’s *our* fault, the voters, the DNC, whatever, that this is happening because Hillary was the nominee in 2016. Seriously, fuck all the way off with that bullshit, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Send them this:

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:52:19am

re: #277 teleskiguy

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One big thing about Bernie - he has been a lousy Senator. Hardly any bills of his have made it out of committee for example. No legislation sponsored by him has become law. That is why he attracts purity trolls because he is so pure he has gotten little done.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:52:59am

re: #279 teleskiguy

My little way of pushing back against the progressive left saying it’s *our* fault, the voters, the DNC, whatever, that this is happening because Hillary was the nominee in 2016. Seriously, fuck all the way off with that bullshit, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

“So, your ego was more important than the country? Rather than making sure we didn’t go backwards, you thought it would be ok to punish the country for not giving into your demands?”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 7:59:17am

re: #285 Belafon

Can either of you guys get on Twitter and check the Trends for “Rate Limit Exceeded”?

I’m completely locked out other than being logged in.

Thx

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:02:02am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

Something is wrong over there. I tried to click on a link and it responded with re-try.

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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:03:00am

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:05:48am

Nasty MFer! One over but I had to really think about it.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:06:30am

re: #288 A Cranky One

The question is, “Is John Lennon’s parrot still alive”? And that could be a distinct possibility.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:11:40am

re: #288 A Cranky One

Polly in the Sky with Crackers
Instant Cuttlefish
And Your Bird Can Sing?
Get Beak

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:12:27am

re: #239 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

roberts knows it
- knows his legacy is toast
- knows he cant do anything about it

thats why he made that ridiculous statement about respect

maybe he really meant balls and strikes when he said it
in the end this is an extensions of ETTD
you dont thing TFG has anything to do with this?

how about one, maybe two lost dem scotus nominations (partial thanks to mcconnell)

and when you’re given the likes of gorsuch, kavanaugh and barret to work with, on top of thomas and alito, you think jurisprudence is gonna happen?

Can we stop pretending this is anything other than the Alito/Thomas Axis Court? It’s like you have Palpatine and Dooku sitting side by side at a Jedi Council and expecting anything other than a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:15:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:22:54am

In local news, my neighbour’s niece is in town after last night’s floods in McCook, Nebr.

Yesterday’s apocalyptic storms didn’t get severe until they passed us. Torrential rain came down in the McCook area, and a dry creek which hasn’t had water in a hundred years overflowed its banks.

She woke up when the power went out and water started pouring into her home. Because she has a wired telephone, she was able to call for help (cell service went down).

She was told to stay in her home so she wouldn’t be injured by debris in the water. Others sent a boat to rescue her. She was checked out at the hospital for minor injuries and released.

She says the water got up as high as her boobs in her house. It will take some time to restore it to make it liveable again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:23:24am

Canada

Happy Canada Day

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:25:32am

re: #277 teleskiguy

Let’s not blame GenZ for the Trump election. The purity ponies of my acquaintance were in their 40’s and older in 2016.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:27:34am

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m speaking from my own experience, and some of the youngs are whack.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:28:15am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:29:36am

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And that is one reason why I still have a landline. It works.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:30:41am

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not blame GenZ for the Trump election. The purity ponies of my acquaintance were in their 40’s and older in 2016.

For everything that changed for the better in the latter part of the century, I’ll never understand.

The underlying issue at hand though at this point IMO, is raw unfettered selfishness.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:35:40am

WaPo ping: More information on the Governor of Arizona being pressured by DT. As if we did not know this.

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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:41:10am

re: #299 PhillyPretzel ✅

And that is one reason why I still have a landline. It works.

The biggest issue with landlines is that the switching equipment used by the telecoms is old and few spare parts are available; they’ve been cannibalizing old equipment to keep the switches running. And new switching equipment isn’t available.

The industry has been saying for decades that the old PTSN systems need to be retired. We’re almost at the point where the old equipment will die, so landlines will stop being available.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:42:53am

re: #302 A Cranky One

I have Fiber-Optic with Verizon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:45:12am

On student loan debt relief, I’m not a fan of modern-day serfdom.

I don’t know how many people there are out there like me, but having never been to college I’ve already helped pay off two student loans (my ex-wife and my wife).

Like the modified trolley problem cartoon up there, anyone asking “what about my loans I paid, this is unfair” isn’t looking for an answer. They are trying to deflect. There is no plan which would satisfy that person anyway.

We have a cure for bubonic plague now. Is that fair to the hundreds of millions who died from it? (I can be hyperbolic too.)

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:45:39am

re: #302 A Cranky One

The biggest issue with landlines is that the switching equipment used by the telecoms is old and few spare parts are available; they’ve been cannibalizing old equipment to keep the switches running. And new switching equipment isn’t available.

The industry has been saying for decades that the old PTSN systems need to be retired. We’re almost at the point where the old equipment will die, so landlines will stop being available.

So now homeless people can have a phone and keep a job. They can work 30 hours a week and still not be able to land an apartment.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:47:22am

re: #282 teleskiguy

Seeing a lot of bickering on the online left. Meanwhile, this is what we’re up against.

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I have actually wondered how to tell her that there are a lot of people supporting her.

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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:48:49am

re: #303 PhillyPretzel ✅

I have Fiber-Optic with Verizon.

If so, your service isn’t using the old PTSN switches; it’s using IP to carry the signaling and calls.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:54:44am
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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:56:19am
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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:58:04am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On student loan debt relief, I’m not a fan of modern-day serfdom.

I don’t know how many people there are out there like me, but having never been to college I’ve already helped pay off two student loans (my ex-wife and my wife).

Like the modified trolley problem cartoon up there, anyone asking “what about my loans I paid, this is unfair” isn’t looking for an answer. They are trying to deflect. There is no plan which would satisfy that person anyway.

We have a cure for bubonic plague now. Is that fair to the hundreds of millions who died from it? (I can be hyperbolic too.)

I’ve griped about it to the point I’m sure folks have gotten sick of hearing it, but my generation got fucked the hardest by all this, told that we needed college degrees if we didn’t want to spend the rest of our lives “flipping burgers”…only to be told after we got out that the economy’s fucked, all those degrees were next to worthless, and sneered at that we were “too good to flip burgers!”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 8:59:02am

re: #307 A Cranky One

Verizon made me an offer I could not refuse. Either get fiber-optic or lose your service.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:01:29am

I graduated college with no debt.

I know many people who did not.

I strongly support loan forgiveness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:01:45am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On student loan debt relief, I’m not a fan of modern-day serfdom.

I was fortunate to be able to graduate from college without any debt (Social Security plus BEOG money paid for most my undergraduate education along with busing tables at a mexican restaurant and worked as a TA to get through grad school)

Flipping burgers should be something you do part time on the side to help finance education, not something you have to do after graduating to pay back your loans.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:03:11am

TIL:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:03:56am

re: #238 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think at this point the Roberts Court has achieved being the worst Supreme Court period. Exceeding the Taney Court.

I’m not a fan of Oliver Wendell Holmes’s court and its decision on Buck v Bell (legalising eugenics). That decision has never been overturned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:05:09am

re: #314 Teukka

I would be in the lower left corner of that PDF

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:07:23am

Here’s how you can tell that student loans are a banking scheme: They made it standard practice to loan money, lots of money, to people too young to have a credit rating, or a track record, or perhaps even an understanding of the debt they were signing up for. Standard practice.

Then they made it illegal to declare bankruptcy to get out from under.

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:11:11am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, their hands are bigger than Trump’s.

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:12:23am

re: #295 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Happy Canada Day

Party like it’s 1867, eh?

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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:13:32am

re: #311 PhillyPretzel ✅

Verizon made me an offer I could not refuse. Either get fiber-optic or lose your service.

As I noted, the old PTSN switches are dying. So they switched you to an IP based service; the telecoms just aren’t able to keep the old PTSN switches alive much longer.

I believe Anymouse has noted that folks in his area can’t get phone service because the telecom won’t support new landlines. I started hearing in the early 90s that the old PTSN switches had to go away, but it’s taking a long time to make that transition. Now that the old equipment is dying and is expensive to support, the transition is speeding up.

Another factor accelerating the need to move away from the old PTSN switches is the lack of folks who have the knowledge and expertise to maintain the systems. The data translations alone are a nightmare to navigate. And who would spend the years necessary to learn how to control/update the equipment that’s going away?

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:17:25am
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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:19:41am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not a fan of Oliver Wendell Holmes’s court and its decision on Buck v Bell (legalising eugenics). That decision has never been overturned.

Buck v Bell was one of the worst decisions from the Lochner Era court. But there were a ton of them during that period. One reason it gets its own “Era”. The Robert’s Court will get its own Era. Maybe Citizen’s United.

And just as I inculde Plessy v Ferguson in the Lochner Era (although many say it predates it by a few years),I include Bush v Gore in the current Court Era.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:20:34am

re: #321 wrenchwench

Conservative “freedom”, ladies and gentlemen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:21:02am

re: #321 wrenchwench

As of today, #Florida citizens can carry a concealed weapon without a permit and any immigrants without legal status cannot gain legal employment status or drive. And it’s now a 3rd degree felony for anyone to “knowingly and willingly” drive a person without legal documents into the state, even if that person is your own grandmother.

so you drop them off just before the border, let them walk across and then pick them up.

is that covered by the law, or is it in gneral illegal to offer a ride to an illegal alien?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:21:14am

re: #321 wrenchwench

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Yee-haw.

Don’t drive them into the state. Drive them to the border, pick them up on the other side after they walk across while recording a video, then continue your trip.

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:21:58am

re: #321 wrenchwench

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So how soon before the State Police set up “Show your papers” stops at the state borders?

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:22:45am

re: #326 silverdolphin

Too soon.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:22:47am

Bright orange seems fitting for a heat advisory day. Forecast for my area (gasp!) is 80 degrees. Fahrenheit. Bay area microclimates…

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:24:46am

The Best Online Spice Stores for Everything from Annatto Seed to Za’atar
Where you buy your spices is just as important as how you use them.
bonappetit.com

drool

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:25:18am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In that case you find the precedent for the “gay wedding website” decision.

In Buck, the court found that “three generations of imbeciles” was enough. The plaintiff (Carrie Buck) was committed to the Virginia State Colony for Epileptics and the Feebleminded after she was found to be pregnant, along with her mother. The Commonwealth of Virginia ordered Carrie Buck to be sterilised after Albert Priddy, Superintendent (who was looking for a case to legalise eugenics nationwide) claimed Carrie Buck was “incorrigible” but it was not immorality that caused her to become pregnant, simply “imbecility.”

After she lost her case 8-1 in front of Holmes’s court, the state-ordered sterilisation was forced on her.

As it turned out later, she was not an “imbecile,” she’d consistently been an honours student in school. She was also not “unable to tell what was moral” regarding sex, she’d been raped by the nephew of her adoptive mother and her family put her in the colony to avoid shame (because religion).

The sole dissenter in the case was a devout Catholic and used religion, not law, to argue against the majority decision.

Holmes cited Jacobson v Massachusetts (the case allowing a state to enforce compulsory vaccination) as the precedence to enforce sterilisation.

Carrie Buck died in 1983. Her daughter was also an honours student in elementary school, but died of measles (the disease RFK, Jr. wants to bring back).

After that decision, a “model law” was written to present to state legislatures. (ALEC didn’t invent that.) The Nazis when they came to power praised the United States for passing that law in many states across the country. Harry Laughlin (who wrote the law) was given an honorary doctorate by the Nazis from the University of Heidelberg in 1936.

At the Nuremberg Trials, the Nazis specifically cited Holmes’s decision in Buck v Bell as justification for their crimes (y’all are doin’ it too).

Virginia’s compulsory sterilisation law was finally overturned in 2013, replaced with an “informed consent” version of the same law.

In the dissent against Roe v Wade, the Holmes case was cited as a reason to prohibit that decision by Justice Blackum. In 2001 the Eighth Circuit cited Holmes saying that abuse would result if the procedures laid out in Buck v Bell were not followed.

The last mandatory sterilisations in the USA were in California in 2010. In 2021, California approved a budget to pay reparations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:25:54am

re: #322 silverdolphin

Buck v Bell was one of the worst decisions from the Lochner Era court. But there were a ton of them during that period. One reason it gets its own “Era”. The Robert’s Court will get its own Era. Maybe Citizen’s United.

And just as I inculde Plessy v Ferguson in the Lochner Era (although many say it predates it by a few years),I include Bush v Gore in the current Court Era.

Given Roberts helped the Bush team in the 2000 case, definitely fair!

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:30:34am

How many math concepts can you cram into a video with stick figures:

Animation vs. Math

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:34:55am

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In that case you find the precedent for the “gay wedding website” decision.

In Buck, the court found that “three generations of imbeciles” was enough. The plaintiff (Carrie Buck) was committed to the Virginia State Colony for Epileptics and the Feebleminded after she was found to be pregnant, along with her mother. The Commonwealth of Virginia ordered Carrie Buck to be sterilised after Albert Priddy, Superintendent (who was looking for a case to legalise eugenics nationwide) claimed Carrie Buck was “incorrigible” but it was not immorality that caused her to become pregnant, simply “imbecility.”

A horrible decision by one of the worst courts. Coupled with Plessy (which was 8-1 also) it bookends a horrible, horrible court that was only broken by FDR’s threat to pack the Court. Just as I expect Biden will break this Court.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:37:33am

re: #320 A Cranky One

As I noted, the old PTSN switches are dying. So they switched you to an IP based service; the telecoms just aren’t able to keep the old PTSN switches alive much longer.

I believe Anymouse has noted that folks in his area can’t get phone service because the telecom won’t support new landlines.

People can get landline service here. They can’t get cell service because cell companies won’t build infrastructure here (except in cities and along I-80) because they refuse to comply with Nebraska’s privacy laws.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:40:44am

re: #320 A Cranky One

As I noted, the old PTSN switches are dying. So they switched you to an IP based service; the telecoms just aren’t able to keep the old PTSN switches alive much longer.

I believe Anymouse has noted that folks in his area can’t get phone service because the telecom won’t support new landlines. I started hearing in the early 90s that the old PTSN switches had to go away, but it’s taking a long time to make that transition. Now that the old equipment is dying and is expensive to support, the transition is speeding up.

Another factor accelerating the need to move away from the old PTSN switches is the lack of folks who have the knowledge and expertise to maintain the systems. The data translations alone are a nightmare to navigate. And who would spend the years necessary to learn how to control/update the equipment that’s going away?

And even in places where they’ve decided to keep POTS functionality, what sits at the exchange building is for all intents and purposes a souped up version of of a IP PBX (you need to do a little more heavy lifting to handle 2,000 m wire pairs), as the telephone network uses IP internally to connect phones to each other.

What really differs is that on an IP based service is that your Subscriber Line Interface Circuit (SLIC) sits in your router as opposed to up to a mile or two away. And that emergency powering your SLIC is on you (Hear, HEAR Lizardim, make sure you have some sort of uninterruptible or reserve power supply for your router).

Unless you’re using an all-IP telephone, in which case you’ve done away with the classic two-wire interface altogether. But I think that the classical two-wire interface will live on for around a half a century, maybe more for specialist applications. It’s rugged, and not that complex to make work (in fact, I’m toying with a design for a telephone exchange which is basically a IP PBX, but which has a old-skool fallback mode (jack/plug/cord)).

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:43:01am

re: #326 silverdolphin

So how soon before the State Police set up “Show your papers” stops at the state borders?

They already do ‘Show us your fruits’ at the California border. All of Florida is within 100 miles of a national border. They’ll do whatever they want until they’re stopped.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:43:29am

re: #333 silverdolphin

That CONservatives will then scream that it’s “an unconstitutional power grab!” because they know that their voters are too stupid to know any better and don’t have the curiosity to look it up for themselves.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:44:17am

re: #329 retired cynic

The Best Online Spice Stores for Everything from Annatto Seed to Za’atar
Where you buy your spices is just as important as how you use them.
bonappetit.com

drool

Decatur Deb got me into Penzey’s. I wish he’d come back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:47:00am

re: #326 silverdolphin

So how soon before the State Police set up “Show your papers” stops at the state borders?

while they are checking childbearing-age women leaving the state for pregnancy

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:47:21am

Oh, yeah. A fiver.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:47:30am

re: #338 wrenchwench

I have heard about Penzeys and I think there is one in Center City Philly.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:49:37am

re: #341 PhillyPretzel ✅

I have heard about Penzeys and I think there is one in Center City Philly.

Online they’re everywhere. Actully, I’d like to see smell the brick and moreter version.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:53:27am
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Nerdy Fish  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:53:45am

re: #343 wrenchwench

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So, another day ending in -y?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:54:23am

re: #329 retired cynic

The Best Online Spice Stores for Everything from Annatto Seed to Za’atar
Where you buy your spices is just as important as how you use them.
bonappetit.com

drool

I order my specialty spice from Spice Jungle

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:54:45am

re: #344 Nerdy Fish

So, another day ending in -y?

And another stink ending in ‘K’.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:54:49am
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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:55:45am

re: #347 Belafon

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I’ll vape to that.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:56:47am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:58:11am

re: #349 Joe Bacon ✅

That works.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2023 • 9:58:35am

Crime party still shamelessly criming.

“…Prosecutors said they have more than 80,000 pages of evidence against U.S. Rep. George Santos during a court hearing on Friday.

Santos appeared in court for the first time since pleading not guilty last month to charges that he duped donors, stole from his campaign, collected fraudulent unemployment benefits, and lied to Congress about being a millionaire.
……..
Taken together, the allegations suggest Santos relied on “repeated dishonesty and deception to ascend to the halls of Congress and enrich himself,” according to U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York Breon Peace.

Santos has condemned the federal investigation as a “witch hunt,” vowing to not only remain in Congress but to seek reelection. Republican leaders have urged Santos not to run again but have deferred efforts to expel the freshman representative that could narrow their slim majority.”
abc7ny.com

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:00:38am

*blinks*

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:01:05am

re: #351 jaunte

Crime party still shamelessly criming.

“We’re not against the criming, just the doing it in public part.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:06:28am

re: #352 Teukka

*blinks*

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Griffin is also opposed to the Fed, or as Wiki puts it;

Griffin presented his views on the U.S. money system and opposition to the Federal Reserve system in his 1993 movie and 1994 book, The Creature from Jekyll Island.[5][a] In it, he presents his argument that the central banking system of the United States constitutes a banking cartel and an instrument of war and totalitarianism.[9][11] The book was a business-topic bestseller,[12][13] and influenced Ron Paul when he wrote a chapter on money and the Federal Reserve in his New York Times bestseller, The Revolution: A Manifesto.[14]

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ericblair  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:07:34am

re: #319 sizzzzlerz

Party like it’s 1867, eh?

Maybe a little updated:

YouTube

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Egregious Philbin  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:16:02am

re: #328 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

112 here. I’d strangle a nun for a high of 80.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:19:51am

re: #356 Egregious Philbin

112 here. I’d strangle a nun for a high of 80.

We are reaching a high of 82 here. And rain.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:21:27am

re: #328 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

re: #356 Egregious Philbin

Not too much going on here today in Philly but tomorrow we are supposed to get some very powerful thunderstorms.
weather.gov

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:24:47am
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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:24:55am

re: #356 Egregious Philbin

112 here. I’d strangle a nun for a high of 80.

I’m expecting a huge number of of climate refugees to move up here to Ecotopia over the next few years. At least until the Cascadia Subduction Zone produces the largest earthquake in recent times (> 9.0) and wipes it all out.

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:25:39am

re: #349 Joe Bacon ✅

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our women in that pic need hats also.

For Sotomayor, a Yankees cap.

Kagan, a Spiderman headpiece.

Jackson, a church-lady Easter Sunday hat.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:29:16am

re: #360 silverdolphin

I’m expecting a huge number of of climate refugees to move up here to Ecotopia over the next few years. At least until the Cascadia Subduction Zone produces the largest earthquake in recent times (> 9.0) and wipes it all out.

Yeah - and once that megathrust earthquake (and the associated tsunami) happens, the PNW is going to be looking at easily the worst natural disaster in American history. It’s gonna be an absolute nightmare.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:29:34am

re: #356 Egregious Philbin

112 here. I’d strangle a nun for a high of 80.

Currently 72°F (22°Commie) here. Today’s high is predicted to be 82°F, with fair skies. Tonight, clear and 56°F. Tomorrow, clear and hot (90°F).

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Egregious Philbin  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:30:36am

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Its 98 already at 10:30. I gotta go work on the pool…

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Captain Ron  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:31:43am

re: #347 Belafon

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And still late to WWI.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:32:55am

Breakfast-of-champions: air fryer chicken nuggets.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:33:59am

re: #338 wrenchwench

Decatur Deb got me into Penzey’s. I wish he’d come back.

Penzey’s is the best for both spices and good people that own it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:34:12am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

Yeah - and once that megathrust earthquake (and the associated tsunami) happens, the PNW is going to be looking at easily the worst natural disaster in American history. It’s gonna be an absolute nightmare.

What about the New Madrid fault in my neck of the woods? What happens when it goes again?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:34:12am

re: #356 Egregious Philbin

112 here. I’d strangle a nun for a high of 80.

81F here in Twinky Flats. Predicted high of 95F but will probably be closer to 100 by late afternoon.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:37:01am
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Nerdy Fish  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:38:23am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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Twitter’s dead. Once you start implementing read limits, it’s dead.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:40:49am

re: #368 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the New Madrid fault in my neck of the woods? What happens when it goes again?

Oh, that’d be bad too. The last time that popped off (an earthquake series, IIRC), the area wasn’t so densely populated as it is today.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:41:44am

re: #368 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the New Madrid fault in my neck of the woods? What happens when it goes again?

Midplate faults aren’t well understood, but I believe the current understanding is that they won’t go above magnitude 8 or so. (In other words, big enough to reduce the epicenter area to rubble, if building codes don’t take the possibility of earthquakes into account.)

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:44:53am

re: #302 A Cranky One

The biggest issue with landlines is that the switching equipment used by the telecoms is old and few spare parts are available; they’ve been cannibalizing old equipment to keep the switches running. And new switching equipment isn’t available.

The industry has been saying for decades that the old PTSN systems need to be retired. We’re almost at the point where the old equipment will die, so landlines will stop being available.

Here in TheBackwoods it’s almost impossible to a get new landline. Phone company cancelled my order for a second line out to the hobbit house saying they didn’t have enough material. Neighbors at the end of the lane subsequently got a line but only after an extremely annoying fight with the phone company, and then the crew cannibalized materials from an abandoned property.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:54:24am

[moved by me]

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2023 • 10:57:25am

re: #338 wrenchwench

Decatur Deb got me into Penzey’s. I wish he’d come back.

Me, too. Not because of spices. I just loved how his mind works. Just like I love how your mind works!

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 1, 2023 • 11:07:30am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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Elmo can’t tell the difference between a twitter account and a date scraper?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2023 • 11:16:20am

re: #257 Nerdy Fish

That was a weird word. It took a few minutes to find a possibility.

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Ain’t that the truth. 6/6

Wordle 742 6/6

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⬜🟩⬜🟩⬜
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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2023 • 11:22:13am

re: #371 Nerdy Fish

Twitter’s dead. Once you start implementing read limits, it’s dead.

If Twitter is dead, and no one notices that it’s dead, is it dead?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 1, 2023 • 11:24:23am

re: #379 Ace Rothstein

If Twitter is dead, and no one notices that it’s dead, is it dead?

it’s just pining for the fjords

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silverdolphin  Jul 1, 2023 • 12:07:49pm

re: #368 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the New Madrid fault in my neck of the woods? What happens when it goes again?

That is not going to be fun to be around at all. I would not want to be around any of those. But the Cascadia Subduction Zone can release 100 times as much energy as the New Madrid or San Andreas, Richter >9. The shaking would last more than 5 minutes. And after the Earth stops shaking, the 100 foot tsunami hits. The last time this happened there was a tsunami recorded in Japan.


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