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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Old Glory AI Insurance — [Explicit Content] We continue to await more Trump indictments. The latest from Trump and his lawyers. Tiny Trump returns to demand Republicans help him obstruct justice. More wins for the grownups. The economy continues to grow, defying expectations. Fox News staffers outraged by Greg Gutfeld. Little Known Facts about Jack Smith. Good news for abortion rights in Ohio. Rudy’s lawyers admitted he lied about Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. What happened to Mitch McConnell? One in ten Americans believes the Pizzagate nonsense. With David “TRex” Ferguson, music by Metal Byrds, Matt Springfield, and more!

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414 comments
1
Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:51:54pm

New charges for the Chump.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:53:32pm

A thought: Democrats can say all the nice things they want about McConnell, but if he retires, they don’t allow his replacement to sit unless someone is allowed to replace Feinstein.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:53:39pm

It’s arraigning men, hallelujah 🎶

(Stolen)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:55:17pm

re: #3 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

It’s arraigning men, hallelujah 🎶

(Stolen)

::P

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:57:18pm
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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:57:39pm

Look, I don’t think Jack Smith should just run up the score like this…
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Just kidding. Charge the fuck out of that monster. He deserves every last bit of it.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 3:57:39pm

I hope Employee 4 is in protective custody.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:00:04pm

WaPo:

“Because the case involves highly classified documents, the process of reviewing evidence will be complicated and could bring considerable delays.”

How the Eleventh Circuit Might Weigh a CIPA Appeal in United States v. Trump
John Sullivan Baker, Derek Webber
lawfaremedia.org

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Lilah  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:00:10pm

re: #1 Unabogie

New charges for the Chump.

talkingpointsmemo.com

I don’t think Trump is a chump, but for all the time I’ve been aware of him, this is the first that “Trump chump” ever clicked with me. That’s what my BIL and one of my oldest friends are: chumps for Trump.

So, uh, thanks!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:00:25pm

The Former Guy is going to be prison currency.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:01:50pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Gift link to the WaPo article.

Totally not a cult.

Trump spokesman Steven Cheung called the charges unveiled Thursday “a continued desperate and flailing attempt” to harass the former president, who is again seeking the GOP nomination for the White House, and those around him.

How many people around Trump have already been flailed right into prison?

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:02:38pm

re: #2 Belafon

A thought: Democrats can say all the nice things they want about McConnell, but if he retires, they don’t allow his replacement to sit unless someone is allowed to replace Feinstein.

Assuming Feinstein would also retire early (not likely).

More importantly, if he retired before November 2024, that would mean a special election in Kentucky. The Dems need to have a plan for that, if it comes to happen.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:02:42pm

BREAKING NEWS:

Number of indictments for Hillary and Obama: 0

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:03:42pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Steven Cheung:

“…Cheung was involved in a controversial statement disavowing support from the Ku Klux Klan and a white supremacist newspaper, who endorsed Trump’s campaign. He said, “Mr. Trump and the campaign denounces hate in any form. This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans who are uniting behind our campaign.” This led to backlash from many of Trump’s nationalist supporters.”
en.wikipedia.org

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:03:57pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

And there appears to be no indictments for Joe. Amazing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:04:26pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

BREAKING NEWS:

Number of indictments for Hillary and Obama: 0

And Carter and Clinton.

It’s almost as if there isn’t a magic balance fairy of “both sides are equally bad.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:04:27pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

bEcAuSe tHeY’rE Deep State!!

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:07:01pm

I love how his lackeys in the indictment keep calling the boxes his “Beautiful Mind Boxes.”

These creeps are 100% aware of how insane Trump is but they cover for him anyway just because power and fame are intoxicating to them.

Fuck em, they deserve to go down with this asshole.

Yes, I’m pissed that this fucking criminal was given power over me by people who just loved his racism so much they voted him in.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:08:21pm
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Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:09:14pm

CL’ed
Health update:

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:10:17pm

re: #19 Captain Ron

Part of the Texas GOP war on Texas cities.

“The Texas Education Agency has been in a legal battle to take over the state’s largest school district since 2019.”
texastribune.org

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:11:20pm
“In a letter sent to the superintendent and board members of the Houston Independent School District (HISD), Education Commissioner Mike Morath said that the recipients of the letter would be replaced with a new superintendent and board of managers chosen by the Texas Education Authority (TEA), and who will be officially instated on June 1.”

cbsnews.com

And libraries will begin disappearing in July.

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TarHellion  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:12:29pm

re: #20 Vicious Babushka

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KGxvi  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:12:35pm

re: #21 jaunte

Part of the Texas GOP war on Texas cities.

I swear, at this point, I’m willing to give the wingnuts Texas and Oklahoma so they can build their own dream country. We can work out a repatriation program for people who don’t want to live under the wingnuttiness and those who do. Remove all the nuclear weapons from the states and make them join the nonproliferation treaty… then they can just fuck right off.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:20:26pm

re: #2 Belafon

A thought: Democrats can say all the nice things they want about McConnell, but if he retires, they don’t allow his replacement to sit unless someone is allowed to replace Feinstein.

I am confident they are way ahead on this

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:21:41pm

re: #12 KGxvi

Assuming Feinstein would also retire early (not likely).

More importantly, if he retired before November 2024, that would mean a special election in Kentucky. The Dems need to have a plan for that, if it comes to happen.

Yeah, well, thanks in no small part to McConnell’s own machinations, the rules for Kentucky’s filling of Senate vacancies were changed in 2021 (over the (D) Governor’s veto, natch) - While the Gov still gets to appoint the successor, they have to be from the same Party as the former incumbent, and chosen from a list (of three) candidates submitted by said Party’s leadership.
So even if old McTurtle croaks tomorrow, the KY GOP can insert whatever loony-tunes hack they want to take his place: who would serve at least until the next GE*.

* there IS some vanishingly-small chance they might pick a decent choice for Senator, but it’s ruby-red Kentucky: “loony-tunes hack” is way more likely.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:22:24pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:26:03pm

re: #2 Belafon

A thought: Democrats can say all the nice things they want about McConnell, but if he retires, they don’t allow his replacement to sit unless someone is allowed to replace Feinstein.

Goddamn right.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:28:20pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:30:04pm

re: #10 Dr. Matt

The Former Guy is going to be prison currency.

Good.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:30:16pm

re: #21 jaunte

Part of the Texas GOP war on Texas cities.

Anyone who thinks a potential breakup of the United States doesn’t soon involve Conservative run states threatening and actually violently attacking Liberal states has their head in the sand. They are broadcasting it right now.

Putin and Wagner serves as their role model on how to do this.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:33:06pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

PragerU material is put out by conservatives, therefore it is all lies.

The Republican party really is setting out on the road that leads directly to death camps and world war, no off-ramps, no exits. Lying bullshit about history like this PragerU crap and slavery apologetics are unmistakable warning signs.

Sensible people in the US have to contain the GOP menace before they kill us all.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:33:54pm

re: #26 Jay C

Yeah, well, thanks in no small part to McConnell’s own machinations, the rules for Kentucky’s filling of Senate vacancies were changed in 2021 (over the (D) Governor’s veto, natch) - While the Gov still gets to appoint the successor, they have to be from the same Party as the former incumbent, and chosen from a list (of three) candidates submitted by said Party’s leadership.
So even if old McTurtle croaks tomorrow, the KY GOP can insert whatever loony-tunes hack they want to take his place: who would serve at least until the next GE*.

* there IS some vanishingly-small chance they might pick a decent choice for Senator, but it’s ruby-red Kentucky: “loony-tunes hack” is way more likely.

We’re not exactly talking apples-apples.

CA would likely elect a dem so the balance would stay the same except for any timing difference.

The issue is feinstein and the judiciary committee.

Mcconnels committee assignments don’t seem critical in the same way

Rs get to elect the minority leader and that won’t be whoever KY sends.

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:34:47pm

re: #30 Ace Rothstein

Good.

Does a former president and convicted felon still warrant secret service protection?

How would they implement that in GenPop?

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:35:30pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:36:56pm

re: #35 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Employee 4 is no Rose Mary Woods.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:37:10pm
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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:40:07pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And Carter and Clinton.

It’s almost as if there isn’t a magic balance fairy of “both sides are equally bad.”

Joe Biden: Currently unindicted for 1,284 days.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:40:45pm

@blueheronfarm.bsky.social

If you don’t know anything else about goats, know this: They hate water. They do not swim.

We are in end times.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:41:19pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

It is unfair to say the GOP has no principles. The issue with the GOP is that the only principle it has is “the hard right minority has the divine right to rule all other lesser beings”, which is not (yet) a vote getter.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:43:08pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

And Floridian parents are okay with this drivel? What the actual hell? Columbus was a genocidal maniac. And Black people don’t care about White guilt. We want equality and justice.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:45:03pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:45:09pm

50%!!!

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:46:08pm

re: #39 jaunte

@blueheronfarm.bsky.social

We are in end times.

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Mastodon

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:46:43pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

And Floridian parents are okay with this drivel? What the actual hell? Columbus was a genocidal maniac. And Black people don’t care about White guilt. We want equality and justice.

Floriduh is pushing for every student to be rejected at top ranked colleges and universities outside the state.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:46:44pm

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

50%!!!

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Forget it, Jake. It’s Mar-a-Largo.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:47:06pm

re: #44 Backwoods Sleuth

We’d better learn to walk without rhythm.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:47:20pm

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

50%!!!

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Half the country gets their news from sources that deliberately lie to them. There is no analogy on the Left.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:47:27pm

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

50%!!!

[Embedded content]

He said he declassified them when he took them out of the White House, ergo, there were no classified documents at Mar-a-Lago./////

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:48:56pm

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

That’s completely unsurprising. Being a Republican and seeking truth have been contradictory for decades. Republicans are the people and the Party of Lies.

That 50% mostly doesn’t actually believe Trump is innocent — not even Republicans are stupid enough for that — but they know the answer to give to a pollster to make them feel better about their wretched lives.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:50:42pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

And Floridian parents are okay with this drivel? What the actual hell? Columbus was a genocidal maniac. And Black people don’t care about White guilt. We want equality and justice.

White kids (school-age kids) feel no White Guilt. None. Zero.

But their parents and grandparents, when they see historic photos of anti-integration protestors, people harassing Little Rock high schoolers or lunch counter sitters or marchers at various events… they recognize some of those faces. They’re related to some of those faces. And they’re petrified that their 9-year-old is going to say “hey, isn’t that the same guy in those family photos of when dad was a kid? Or the guy whose oil painting is above the mantle?”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:50:46pm

re: #49 Nerdy Fish

He said he declassified them when he took them out of the White House, ergo, there were no classified documents at Mar-a-Lago./////

Ok but he still stole them.
They aren’t his and he’s known it all along notwithstanding social media protests to the contrary

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:51:31pm

re: #49 Nerdy Fish

He said he declassified them when he took them out of the White House, ergo, there were no classified documents at Mar-a-Lago./////

No, no, no, no, no. He said the FBI planted the evidence.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:51:50pm

re: #52 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Ok but he still stole them.
They aren’t his and he’s known it all along notwithstanding social media protests to the contrary

Yes, but that wasn’t the question. The survey asked if he had classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. They believe he didn’t, because they don’t believe they are classified anymore.

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

Or that.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:54:21pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:57:10pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 4:57:16pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Yes, but the rest of that was the doctor showing that if one got through, the rest would be a flood. Trump just believes he’s immortal.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:01:44pm

re: #57 Belafon

Yes, but the rest of that was the doctor showing that if one got through, the rest would be a flood. Trump just believes he’s immortal.

It’s the ‘bmaz’ theory at Emptywheel. One of the moderators (bmaz) at that site is really pissed at Bragg in NY and Fani Willis in GA for clogging the system with what he thinks are stupid cases that get in the way of the Feds and may end up blunting the impact of Smith’s moves. IANAL, of course, so I don’t know.

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:04:16pm

Mastodon post won’t embed. Grrr…

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:04:49pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

It’s the ‘bmaz’ theory at Emptywheel. One of the moderators (bmaz) at that site is really pissed at Bragg in NY and Fani Willis in GA for clogging the system with what he thinks are stupid cases that get in the way of the Feds and may end up blunting the impact of Smith’s moves. IANAL, of course, so I don’t know.

Neither am I, but I would think our justice system is large enough to handle it.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:04:55pm

I was on the road - so did we get indictments or what?

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:05:32pm

re: #61 darthstar

I was on the road - so did we get indictments or what?

Yes, but not what you’re thinking. He got a superseding indictment in Florida, along with Nauta and another guy, for obstruction of justice for the incident where they flooded the server room at Mar-a-Lago.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:06:55pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:08:02pm

re: #63 Backwoods Sleuth

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Texas school libraries: BYOB

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:08:24pm

re: #63 Backwoods Sleuth

How very Republican to taint reading by associating it with school discipline.

These GOP pigfuckers literally have no lows that are too low for them.

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:09:14pm

What’s a “discipline center”? Sounds like a torture chamber.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:09:49pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

What’s a “discipline center”? Sounds like a torture chamber.

It’s Texas, so it’s probably where they’re going to beat kids who misbehave. Spare the rod, all that jazz.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:09:53pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

It’s the ‘bmaz’ theory at Emptywheel. One of the moderators (bmaz) at that site is really pissed at Bragg in NY and Fani Willis in GA for clogging the system with what he thinks are stupid cases that get in the way of the Feds and may end up blunting the impact of Smith’s moves. IANAL, of course, so I don’t know.

IMO that’s a stupid take. Trump is a one-man crime spree, and anything that interferes with him getting charged for all of his crimes is inherently a bad idea.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:10:30pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

What’s a “discipline center”? Sounds like a torture chamber.

Houston Independent School District will be eliminating librarian positions at 28 schools this upcoming year and converting the libraries into ‘Team Centers” where kids with behavioral issues will be sent, the district announced.

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piratedan  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:10:39pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

yeah, unsure about that take, State crimes should be tried by the states, considering that he was interfering with local state law by attempting to subvert their own electoral results, then by applying pressure to State office holders to break their own laws, seems like that is something that should be done at the state level. The fact that Trump did so in multiple states, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and Pennsylvania makes me think that there are two layers here, one done at the state level and then another at the federal level with the submission of the “alternate electors” as an act of fraud since Trump had neither won the state or earned those electors. The state stuff was the leaning on the state officials to go along with the alternate electors scam by claiming there were voting irregularities that would have altered or brought the outcome into some doubt.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:14:34pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

Texas school libraries: BYOB

Should things go horribly wrong in the 2024 Elections, 2025 could be the start of another period of mass migration within the United States where Red States quickly become more and more homogenized away from the rest of the world’s reality.

Policies being enacted across Red States are based on the delegitimization and harassment of people not white, male and Christian. They already feel confident enough to target large businesses. Once they gain absolute power and elections are done away with they will target individuals directly. I know those with means already thinking hard about where they will go should shit go down in 2024.

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:14:51pm

re: #67 Nerdy Fish

It’s Texas, so it’s probably where they’re going to beat kids who misbehave. Spare the rod, all that jazz.

That ain’t nuthin’. Wait until you see what they do with swimming pools that have had razor wire installed below the surface.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:15:29pm

Bmaz is basically saying that if you’re important enough, state crimes should be ignored. Lesser citizens, however, are chargeable.

That is just an abhorrent idea.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:16:22pm

re: #62 Nerdy Fish

Yes, but not what you’re thinking. He got a superseding indictment in Florida, along with Nauta and another guy, for obstruction of justice for the incident where they flooded the server room at Mar-a-Lago.

Seeing that now…DELETE THE TAPES! Nice…that’s some garden variety low life criming right there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:16:53pm

While Michigan and Minnesota are getting a lot of attention for progressive legislation these days, New Mexico is being ignored.New Mexico Governor Quietly Turning State Into Socialist Worker’s Paradise (Wonkette, July 26, 2023)

A very long list of accomplishments.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:17:56pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

What’s a “discipline center”? Sounds like a torture chamber.

Elementary school discipline: spend recess in the library. I don’t remember ever getting that punishment, nor did I ever think of it as punishment.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:18:28pm

He’s now turned on Jack Smith

bmazsays:
July 27, 2023 at 8:04 pm
Jack Smith is Jack shit. This strung out crap makes me want to puke.

Complete abusive horse manure.

Smith could not have brought this in his elegant and impressive original indictment? Seriously?

What a load of crap.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:19:16pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:20:26pm

re: #77 Unabogie

Who is bmaz?

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Nojay UK  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:21:34pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

Elementary school discipline: spend recess in the library. I don’t remember ever getting that punishment, nor did I ever think of it as punishment.

14-year-old me: “Who do I have to kill?”

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:22:31pm

re: #79 jaunte

Who is bmaz?

Apparently a moderator at Emptywheel that thinks he knows better than Jack Smith about everything.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:22:45pm

re: #79 jaunte

Who is bmaz?

Sort of cofounder of Marcy Wheeler’s (emptywheel) website.

She’s always worth a read:

emptywheel.net

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piratedan  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:06pm

re: #77 Unabogie

the wheels of justice can’t turn fast enough and while I share some of those concerns, I am also aware that it took a couple of years to have Watergate unfold and considering the amount of crime that has taken place and the cast of characters involved… it’s going to take time, it’s made a damn sight more difficult (imho) when you have roughly half of an active political party, multiple media entities, a roster of dark money funders and perhaps one or two Supreme Court Justices involved. This isn’t just Nixon and his administration, this goes way the fuck beyond that and we haven’t even touched upon how much the Russians and Saudis are involved as of yet.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:09pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

Apparently a moderator at Emptywheel that thinks he knows better than Jack Smith about everything.

Basically.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:20pm

re: #77 Unabogie

“abusive” my ass. If anyone ever deserved the most abusive possible charging practices by a Federal prosecutor, it is Trump.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:32pm

re: #77 Unabogie

He’s now turned on Jack Smith

Sounds like someone to ignore.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:40pm

re: #63 Backwoods Sleuth

It’s like something out of a Roald Dahl novel.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:23:42pm

re: #78 Belafon

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MSNBC did. I watched part of it in real time.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:24:01pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

Elementary school discipline: spend recess in the library. I don’t remember ever getting that punishment, nor did I ever think of it as punishment.

I think what they’re doing is eliminating the libraries and turning the space into a disciplinary room where students who are considered disruptive in class can be concentrated under watch, and made to attend classes via zoom calls (I assume without a microphone).

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:24:12pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

“abusive” my ass. If anyone ever deserved the most abusive possible charging practices by a Federal prosecutor, it is Trump.

And it’s not abusive! He’s not even denying that Trump committed all these crimes, just that DOJ should ignore some of them!

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:24:51pm

re: #86 Belafon

Sounds like someone to ignore.

Wait, are you saying it possible to ignore someone being wrong on the internet?!?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:25:01pm

re: #82 Unabogie

Sort of cofounder of Marcy Wheeler’s (emptywheel) website.

She’s always worth a read:

emptywheel.net

Yes. And I think he gives her some cred as a former prosecutor or something.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:26:16pm

re: #83 piratedan

the wheels of justice can’t turn fast enough and while I share some of those concerns, I am also aware that it took a couple of years to have Watergate unfold and considering the amount of crime that has taken place and the cast of characters involved… it’s going to take time, it’s made a damn sight more difficult (imho) when you have roughly half of an active political party, multiple media entities, a roster of dark money funders and perhaps one or two Supreme Court Justices involved. This isn’t just Nixon and his administration, this goes way the fuck beyond that and we haven’t even touched upon how much the Russians and Saudis are involved as of yet.

Back in the Nixon era, the GOP was split roughly evenly on whether Republicans were above the law, which meant Nixon would have lost an impeachment trial in the D-controlled Senate.

Now the GOP is all-in on Republicans being above the law.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:29:14pm

First episode of Good Omens 2 is now up at Amazon Prime Video.

Good Omens Season 2 - Official Trailer | Prime Video

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:29:22pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

Texas school libraries: BYOB

Where “BYOB” means

Bring
Your
Own
Bible

And it better be the King James Version or it’s DETENTION for you in the new Discipline Center!

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:29:34pm

re: #90 Unabogie

And it’s not abusive! He’s not even denying that Trump committed all these crimes, just that DOJ should ignore some of them!

One thing I’m hoping for in the documents case is charges related to classified material ending up in the hands of US adversaries, ideally in the form of real espionage charges.

Sadly, true espionage is unlikely, because what foreign spy agency would be so stupid as to pay for something they could just steal from Trump’s pesthole properties?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:30:52pm

re: #19 Captain Ron

The school to prison pipeline is up and running in Tex-Ass.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:31:02pm

Oops, I meant Amazon Prime. Please reset brain matter.

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:31:30pm

re: #80 Nojay UK

14-year-old me: “Who do I have to kill?”

A variation on the theme — “How long do I have to spend in the discipline center if I play a recording of ‘Gov. Abbott is a pigfucker’ over the school PA system?”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:32:16pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

A variation on the theme — “How long do I have to spend in the discipline center if I play a recording of ‘Gov. Abbott is a pigfucker’ over the school PA system?”

It’s Jail For You! 🤬

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:33:17pm

Randy Meisner passed at 77.
Meisner added high harmonies to such favorites as “Take It Easy” and “The Best of My Love” and sang and co-wrote the hit “Take It to the Limit.”

huffpost.com

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:33:20pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:35:26pm

Jamie Raskin is on MSNBC and is having a hard time keep a straight face.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:37:45pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:38:24pm

re: #102 Belafon

“The place I discovered was beautiful; we brought the natives smallpox, measles, typhus, and malaria, but as they were poor they could only present us with one gift of syphilis to bring back to Europe.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:41:41pm

re: #105 jaunte

“The place I discovered was beautiful; we brought the natives smallpox, measles, typhus, and malaria, but as they were poor they could only present us with one gift of syphilis to bring back to Europe.”

“I explained to them about the consequences of lack of industry and motivation: if they didn’t bring back the required amount of gold we would lop a hand off….”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:41:56pm

Nixon had an 18 minute gap.

Trump has an 18 TB gap.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:42:32pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:49:14pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:49:24pm

Rob Schneider said something decent and kind, a rarity. He usually says things that are hateful and batshit.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:51:17pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

Though I do take issue with that last paragraph. In countless interviews Sinéad said over and over that she was at peace with herself and comfortable in her own skin and that she had no regrets.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:52:32pm

re: #77 Unabogie

He’s now turned on Jack Smith

What’s a bmaz?

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:54:13pm

Catching up:
On Florida-Texas secession: Good luck standing up a functional navy before the Chinese ships move in to your territorial waters and the Mexican cartels launch incursions. Oh, you’re counting on the US Navy as a deterrent? Future moochers

On Former President Donald J Trump: has anyone directly asked Trump what strategic and diplomatic interests were served by declassification of all those documents?

On California: see photo

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:56:06pm

re: #114 So Cal Greek Hippie

Dude I love that picture.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:56:17pm

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:56:21pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Though I do take issue with that last paragraph. In countless interviews Sinéad said over and over that she was at peace with herself and comfortable in her own skin and that she had no regrets.

The last paragraph pretty much invalidates everything before it, IMO.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:57:40pm

bsky.app

Note to self, do not use “shushing emojis” while taking part in a criminal fucking conspiracy.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:57:52pm

re: #20 Vicious Babushka

YnZycUhJNTlXR0hVN0VEbmk2aEZwODlvKytxdzZrdDdZQXlKM25pWXBjb21IWSsrWG9Pdi9sV21KSnZKKzJSR3lzcHh3WmJ3aG5KQ2p4Z0RWbGtqckRabWtlRnU4VkVWL1pMdWRQRlorOUkvRXh3Mk1KQk5MRS8wbC9qUC9KdXhsQUdXak42dk81N3RvSWdRZ1BIMTRSVFVzTUtuQ0R2YlpTNXROVE9qOGtLYkhrODZJem1hemZvamxtTjJqZ1EzVk1rcHdFTnk3RmZJWHhTTGdNWjhyQT09Ojq0j+pRzK/Y2vCZok+6zWze

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:58:49pm

Nobody knows the trouble white people have seen (Digby’s Hullabaloo, July 25, 2023)

I’s sure you’ve heard by now that Florida’s new school curriculum says that enslaved people in the United States may have had a rough time in some respects but they got some benefits from slavery too! (This isn’t a new thing, I’ve heard right wingers suggest for years that Black people thank white people for bringing their ancestors to America.)

Presidential candidate Ron DeSantis was clearly not sure if it may have gone too far and didn’t claim credit for it but defended it anyway. Philip Bump at the Washington Post took a look at why he would do that:

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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 5:59:46pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon ✅

By now it is extremely fair to say, for those that believe in that kind of thing, that the US political right is a cult of lying devil-worshippers that are truly servants of the Father of Lies.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:02:17pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:02:47pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon ✅

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:07:14pm

He’s pretty young here, so lol, but no big deal.

He’s definitely at an adult age here.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:07:32pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

Thanks. I phone 13 pro max is so great for such things. But that rock is magical and draws me in every time I come here

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:10:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:10:51pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:12:25pm

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This. Even from a very charitable point of view, it has to be admitted that most forms of organized religion are a “check your brain at the door” enterprise, and the resulting trained credulity in a large fraction of the population is easily exploitable by demagogues.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:14:19pm

Three Different Visits to Morro Rock
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:14:27pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

This. Even from a very charitable point of view, it has to be admitted that most forms of organized religion are a “check your brain at the door” enterprise, and the resulting trained credulity in a large fraction of the population is easily exploitable by demagogues.

I would remove the word “organised” but otherwise I agree.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:20:13pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon ✅

Trump-Nixon $3 bill a la Lincoln- Kennedy penny sold at truck stop bathrooms 😎 complete with fact sheet

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:23:41pm

re: #113 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What’s a bmaz?

You have to be a regular reader of the Emptywheel blog. He’s the enforcer. Step out of line and he chews you out for not knowing the depths of practicing law.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:25:15pm

re: #129 So Cal Greek Hippie

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When I was a kid in Orange County, we went on camping trips to Morro Bay 3 or 4 times.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:29:08pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

Don’t mention me, either, because he fucken hates me. And I don’t even know the fucker.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:29:54pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

You have to be a regular reader of the Emptywheel blog. He’s the enforcer. Step out of line and he chews you out for not knowing the depths of practicing law.

Sorry, to follow up: Marcy Wheeler has an amazing mind and ability to remember details from various cases and put them together. However, her writing is not always crystal clear as she probably rushes to put posts out. Sometimes people ask for clarification and the person known as bmaz is like “are you some fucking idiot? Marcy already addressed that.” But more usually, he is just “your ignorance of the law is repulsive so please leave.” I guess it helps to run a tight ship.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:30:21pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

Fun. Maybe I saw you bitd. I was that 2/3 feral Greek kid…

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:33:11pm

Been having a lot of conversations about politics with my Mother, she turns 75 next month. We’re both astonished that the Republicans have devolved into rancid evil brain spider people.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:34:41pm

lawhawk is the best lawyer commenter on the Internet. Fight me.

Popehat’s good. I also really like Adam Steinbaugh.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:36:12pm

anybody here watching Dead City? Any feels you care to discuss from the season finale?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:36:33pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

You have to be a regular reader of the Emptywheel blog. He’s the enforcer. Step out of line and he chews you out for not knowing the depths of practicing law.

Why does Marcy put up with his shit?

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:41:37pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:41:47pm

Lighter fare.

Mastodon

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:42:12pm

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Why does Marcy put up with his shit?

Probably because she doesn’t have to put up with everyone else’s shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:43:43pm

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Why does Marcy put up with his shit?

She pushes back from time to time, but I think it’s because she isn’t trained in the law and needs verification. Just a wild-ass guess.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:44:42pm

re: #143 Belafon

Probably because she doesn’t have to put up with everyone else’s shit.

That too. Good to have an enforcer or two to keep the blog clean.

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BigPapa  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:46:05pm

re: #141 jaunte

‘Your Honor, I file a devastating Torpedo motion!’

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:48:20pm

So what if I was driving to a rally with my license suspended. I got a First Amendment Right To Do That and if you don’t believe me ask Governor Kari Lake!

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:48:33pm

re: #146 BigPapa

Pirates respond with yo-ho-hobeus corpus motion.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:50:17pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon ✅

How can any Republican be prosecuted in the year before a presidential election year?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:50:22pm

I got a feeling Pulpit Pimp Sean is breaking that “false witness” commandment…

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:51:05pm

I found the ultimate book. It’s called the Mathematical Theory of Black Holes. It’s by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, one of the early super-geniuses involved in using the General Theory to understand stars and black holes. You can look at the table of contents and realize it’s so dense space curves around it.

I wish I knew a physicist that could help me figure out what I could study in order to be able to understand that book.

I also had a thought about starting a Sunday school for learning math and science. Just a place for people to meet once or twice a week who want to learn, and be around other people also learning. I definitely don’t want to use the word church and while I thouth Synagogue of Science sounded funny, I don’t really want to use that one either.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:53:09pm

I think I mentioned before that I am part of a group going to Okinawa for a cultural exchange opportunity. I have long loved this song. I always knew that it wasn’t actually Okinawan, but was written by mainland Japanese who loved the southern islands’ songs.

It is about a couple driven apart by the invasion of the US forces to Okinawa in WWII, but the singer has made clear in interviews that he wrote the song after visiting Okinawa and hearing that the locals were encouraged to commit suicide before being captured and that he knew that the trauma Okinawans suffered was because they were caught between Japan (who never accepted them as real Japanese up to that time) and the allied forces.

THE BOOM - 島唄 (オリジナル・ヴァージョン)

This one is also good and is by an actual Amano Oshima (islands between Japan and Okinawa) singer:

Shima Uta - Natsukawa Rimi

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:55:01pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

You have to be a regular reader of the Emptywheel blog. He’s the enforcer. Step out of line and he chews you out for not knowing the depths of practicing law.

Is he a moderator or just some rando commenting?

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cat-tikvah  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:56:47pm

Someone needs to make a Trump Indictment/Trial Tour 2024 with cities and dates!

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:58:35pm

Trump’s courtroom calendar clashes with 2024 campaign

Five major cases by May 2024. He is going to have a hard time paying all those lawyers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 6:58:42pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

You have to be a regular reader of the Emptywheel blog. He’s the enforcer. Step out of line and he chews you out for not knowing the depths of practicing law.

I’ve been a regular reader for a few years, but rarely comment there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:00:13pm

re: #151 Belafon

I found the ultimate book. It’s called the Mathematical Theory of Black Holes. It’s by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, one of the early suoer-geniuses involved in using the General Theory to understand stars and black holes. You can look at the table of contents and realize it’s so dense space curves around it.

I wish I knew a physicist that could help me figure out what I could study in order to be able to understand that book.

I also had a thought about starting a Sunday school for learning math and science. Just a place for people to meet once or twice a week who want to learn, and be around other people also learning. I definitely don’t want to use the word church and while I thouth Synagogue of Science sounded funny, I don’t really want to use that one either.

I would attend such a Sunday Education Meeting if it was close to me.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:00:33pm

re: #54 Nerdy Fish

Yes, but that wasn’t the question. The survey asked if he had classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. They believe he didn’t, because they don’t believe they are classified anymore.

Or that.

I hear you.
Imo that’s giving them too much credit for nuance.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:02:36pm

re: #151 Belafon

I also had a thought about starting a Sunday school for learning math and science. Just a place for people to meet once or twice a week who want to learn, and be around other people also learning. I definitely don’t want to use the word church and while I thouth Synagogue of Science sounded funny, I don’t really want to use that one either.

Sunday Science (and cookies).

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:02:41pm

Stoplight really stands out.

Sister Mildred is a subtle pink that looks lovely.

Sister Mildred Daylily

Fin to the left looks like some alien plant about to swallow your face.

Fin to the Left
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:03:38pm

re: #153 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is he a moderator or just some rando commenting?

Moderator

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:05:59pm

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

Moderator

Who the fuck would stick around a place where three moderator abuses people? I’m not a fan of Marcy Wheeler myself and this lowers her further in my eyes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:08:53pm

Many people will warn you that if they advertise they are Christians for their business, you should take your business elsewhere.

Friendly Atheist, thirteen hours ago

A Bible-quoting mechanic took clients’ cash, then disappeared without finishing the jobs

“I got scammed,” said one victim who hired God’s Garage Mobile Mechanics

Last month, after her car’s transmission stopped working, Carrie Wendlandt was in need of a mechanic. It was an emergency because the Oklahoma City native didn’t have any alternatives, telling the local news, “My daughter needs a ride back and forth to her job. I’m going to disability right now. There’s quite a bit of doctors appointments and my son needs rides around for school when school starts back.”

That’s when she came across “God’s Garage Mobile Mechanics” on Facebook. (Tagline: “The mechanics you can have FAITH IN!”)

The owner of that place, who goes by Derek Martin, routinely cites Bible verses on Facebook posts, using religion as a way to lure in new customers. Wendlandt didn’t care either way; she just needed her car fixed.

Martin came out to see her car for a free diagnostic—“He seemed like a good guy,” she told me—and he later offered her an estimate. As requested, she sent two separate payments totaling $350 to the company… and then no one showed up to fix her car.

Then Martin stopped answering her emails and calls.

Then he blocked her.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:10:17pm

Today an ex-GF came to see me at work, she flew in with her kids from California to spend the weekend with her best friend in Steamboat Springs who just had a baby. She texted me (her son did the texting, I’m sure) while she was driving towards the Eisenhower Tunnel. I said “come see me at this new job I have! currently under remodel…” and she showed up about an hour later. Met her kids (who have cool names, Hensley and his sister Emery) and showed them the dilapidated shop under renovation and they got to see the top-sheets for our skis next winter, they were the first people to see them. They came in from Never Summer (our ski manufacturer) on Monday.

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:19:09pm

re: #150 Joe Bacon ✅

I got a feeling Pulpit Pimp Sean is breaking that “false witness” commandment…

wiccans have taken over parts of California and now there is “a lot of witchcraft”

It’s true. You can’t walk around certain areas without being turned into a newt.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:21:41pm

re: #162 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who the fuck would stick around a place where three moderator abuses people? I’m not a fan of Marcy Wheeler myself and this lowers her further in my eyes.

I’m a fan of Marcy to the extent that I understand her posts—in other words, I find her often incomprehensible and can’t appreciate until commenters pick her thoughts apart and explain on her behalf. That’s why I dislike the moderator bmaz. He pretends that everything should be obvious to everyone. I find emptywheel very informative, but would never rely on it as a singular authoritative source.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:23:18pm

Tomorrow morning I’m gonna try a test 2-3 mile run.
Non running symptoms have gone
Let’s see if my Achilles tendon has healed.
It’s been 2 weeks and 2 days.
Oh and 9 freaking pounds.
About that I am not happy!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:26:06pm

Happening in Philly, Christian protestors.

Jesus waterboards pedophile (Reddit’s r/ReligousFruitcake)

About the leader of this group:
Strange Revelations: The Philly Hate Preacher Who Wants to Save Your Soul (Philadelphia Magazine, April 12, 2018)
“How a currency-trading fraudster named Aden Rusfeldt became the leader of a secretive religious sect.”

You wouldn’t exactly expect a fight to break out when you take your kids to Chestnut Hill’s immensely popular Harry Potter Festival. But when street preacher Pastor Aden Rusfeldt shows up, as he did at the most recent installment in August, all bets are off.

At the event, Pastor Aden, a 40-year-old recent Philly transplant, first leads his flock in tormenting crowd members over their celebration of a fictional boy deeply immersed in witchcraft. Then, inevitably for him, his righteous fury turns toward gays, as seen in a video recorded by one of his ever-present cameras.

“Homos have a higher suicide rate than normal people,” he declares, pointing at a pony-tailed man standing nearby in a purple cloak. “This guy here admitted to being a homo. Pony-tail boy right here.”

A moment later, another man tells Pastor Aden, “You’re going to have to leave.” Then, immediately, the man grabs Pastor Aden and a struggle ensues. “I will fucking kill you,” he tells Pastor Aden as he attempts to physically remove him from the corner, seconds before the video cuts off.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:27:15pm

re: #151 Belafon

General Relativity is a classical theory.

If you’ve not had an intro physics class then it is good to start there, with the basic (calculus level) physics.

Then the next step is the upper division classical dynamics course. It will make you better at understanding the meaning of dynamics and playing with vectors and maybe tensors.

Then comes GR. GR as taught (not necessarily how Einstein first thought of it) mates differential geometry with classical dynamics.

I never liked tensors. The math is the easy part, the confusing part is understanding covariant versus contravariant variables in a physical system. I always found modern physics (quantum mechanics) more to my liking.

See if you can follow along with Susskind’s lectures:

General Relativity Lecture 1


..

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:31:04pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:35:22pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

This was lovely.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:35:32pm

re: #169 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thanks. I’m hoping to make it all the way through to quantum field theory as well. (Why dream small?)

It’s been 33 years since I really studied math and physics, so I’m starting over. As I scour the internet for “what should I study?” One of the thing I run into is “is this list of books sufficient for me to study ________ next?” such as your mention of differential geometry. I only have a vague understanding of the term, and clearly don’t have the math to move onto it.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:37:03pm
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sizzzzlerz  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:41:05pm

re: #173 Captain Ron

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I, for one, welcome our new Siberian roundworm overlords and offer my services in gathering humans to toil in their underground slime caves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:41:06pm

re: #169 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

General Relativity is a classical theory.

If you’ve not had an intro physics class then it is good to start there, with the basic (calculus level) physics.

Uh, calculus is not “basic.” Start earlier. Arithmetic is good.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:42:09pm

Wanna watch something amazing? Watch this. Siqqara is going to keep giving for years to come.
netflix.com

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EstebanTornado1963  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:42:42pm

re: #132 Barefoot Grin

He’s an arrogant asshole. Sort of like a surgeon who thinks they are god

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:45:33pm

One of the things to remember about HISD getting rid of libraries. This is not being done by the elected officials of Houston. The state took control of the district, insytalled their own flunkies and are doing to elementaruy schools what deSantis is doing for higher ed.

SO, yeah, I expect corporal puishment to make a comeback, as well as strip searches. It is what bullies do. And this will be done for otjher cities that piss off the governor.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:47:36pm
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Nerdy Fish  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:48:47pm

re: #179 Captain Ron

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Also, the balls on Nauta to say, “I wanna be able to see everything my lawyers get to see.” That’s not how classification works, there, buddy.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 7:59:20pm

re: #169 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As for the upper level book, I have been holding onto Classical Mechanics by Herbert Goldstein (though it looks like there is a third edition) since I burnt out of college back in 1990. So we’ll see.

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:00:23pm

Trump Lawyers: He did nothing wrong so we see no need for a plea deal or even a trial.

Jack Smith: Well, if that is how you feel, we will see you in May. (As the Trump Lawyers turn to leave) Oh, I found this stuck to the bottom of my shoe. Here. Three more charges, including another Espionage Act. Drop by anytime. We’ve got many, many more. Have a nice weekend.

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retired cynic  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:05:10pm

incredibleuniverse.quora.com

This 14th century door at Exeter Cathedral, UK, is thought to be the oldest existing cat flap.

A cat was paid a penny each week, to keep down the rats and mice in the north tower, and a cat flap was cut into the door below the astronomical clock to allow the cat to carry out its duties.

Records of payments were entered in the Cathedral archives from 1305 to 1467, the penny a week being enough to buy food to supplement a heavy diet of rodents.

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Unabogie  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:06:40pm

OK, which one of you did this?

emptywheel.net

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:09:42pm

I missed out on this. Damn, I don’t get to Casper, Wyo. enough. (KTRS-FM, Casper, August 17, 2021)

The sign is real. It was sabotaged.

PHOTOS: Crude Sign in Casper is Raising Eyebrows

Caution, opens a popup advert.
Warning: Church sign photographs are Not Safe For Work

Warning: The language used in the photos may not be suitable for all readers.

A photo of a former Casper church’s signage has gone viral because of its crude nature.

The location was formerly the Casper Foursquare Church, which is located on Forest Drive.

The sign (which has recently been changed to something even more vulgar), has been repainted. The Foursquare Church logo, as well as the Casper location’s name, has since been completely covered in red paint.

(more)

Photos: Crude Sign in Casper Is Raising Eyebrows

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:11:01pm

I’m certainly hoping it is RICO!!! Trump always was a little caesar.

Little Caesar - The End of Rico

“Mother of Mercy. Is this the end? Of Rico!!” Addition of a period ;-)

Soneone needs to re-edit the sound with a Trump sound alike calling Jack Smith.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:13:44pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Could be sabotage, but it also sounds like someone else might own it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:38:31pm

Guilford County, NC Sheriff’s Department, via Facebork, fourteen hours ago.

Fill in the blank. Look, it’s a pastor; it’s not a _____.

Guilford County Sheriff Danny H. Rogers reports that detectives with the Major Crimes Investigative Unit investigated two reported Sex Offenses from June 24, 2023 and July 14, 2023 at the Piedmont Triad Farmers Market at 2914 Sandy Ridge Road, Colfax, NC. As a result of the investigations, 71-year-old Ivan Hugh-McDonald Peden was charged on July 26, 2023 with Felony Indecent Liberties with a Child, Felony Indecent Exposure, Misdemeanor Sexual Battery, and Misdemeanor Secret Peeping. Peden was remanded to the Greensboro Detention Center under a $50,000 bond.

facebook.com.

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:39:32pm

‘Thug’ Trump will promise co-conspirators a pardon to shut them up: Former Trump aide

One would think that if he has really said such things, he would be guilty of witness tampering. This is just another example of using exgtortion to get them to do what he wants. Should be added to a RICO charge if it is so.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:40:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:43:21pm

Washington Post, today.

Trump needed $225 million. A little-known bank came to the rescue.

“Gregory Garrabrants, a GOP donor and CEO of online Axos Bank, approved the loans after the former president’s main lender had cut ties.”

SAN DIEGO — As Donald Trump considered another White House run last year, his company’s finances were at risk of spiraling into crisis.

The former president’s longtime lender and several banks with his deposits had cut ties in the days around the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by his supporters, at a time when Trump had hundreds of millions in loans coming due. In February 2022, the accounting firm that had worked for him for two decades dropped Trump and advised against relying on his “statement of financial condition,” a metric banks use to evaluate the risks of a loan.

Unless he found a new lender, Trump’s business empire could have been in jeopardy.

Then a new partner came to the rescue: a little known, online-only financial firm headquartered in a suburban San Diego office park.

Axos Bank, formerly known as Bank of Internet USA, had grown from one of the first digital banks into a profitable, publicly traded company in part by specializing in loans to borrowers other banks had shied away from — all while navigating federal regulator scrutiny over its internal operations and a congressional hearing that cited its involvement in high interest rates on some loans.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:43:52pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

Seems a bit like a No-True-Follower fallacy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:45:54pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

For every Pavlovitz there are a hundred like this right wing Xtian.

Right-Wing Pastor John Amanchukwu Says Allowing Students Access to LGBTQ-Friendly Books Is ‘Mental Rape

rightwingwatch.org

John Amanchukwu Says Allowing Students Access to LGBTQ-Friendly Books Is ‘Mental Rape’

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:48:58pm

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Seems a bit like a No-True-Follower fallacy.

Jesus:

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:51:04pm

re: #193 Joe Bacon ✅

For every Pavlovitz there are a hundred like this right wing Xtian.

Right-Wing Pastor John Amanchukwu Says Allowing Students Access to LGBTQ-Friendly Books Is ‘Mental Rape

Mr. Pavlovitz is ignoring, well, the entire history of Christianity.

It did not spread due to the weight of its ideas. It spread due to the weight of its armies.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:53:04pm

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:53:48pm

re: #189 silverdolphin

‘Thug’ Trump will promise co-conspirators a pardon to shut them up: Former Trump aide

One would think that if he has really said such things, he would be guilty of witness tampering. This is just another example of using exgtortion to get them to do what he wants. Should be added to a RICO charge if it is so.

Trump’s a wannabe mobster, in his mind it’s only a crime if he gets caught. Tampering with witnesses is totally justified if it helps him avoid jail time. And even if he gets caught, he probably figures that he can offer the Sideshow Bob defense that it’s not a crime if he doesn’t actually go through with the bribery.

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:54:10pm

Trump Iran doc incident ‘so much worse’ with newly filed charges: legal expert

We have audio of him discussing the Iran war plans at Bedminster. It appears that from the latest indictment we know that Smith actually now has these dociments in his possession.

“”And that makes that incident so much worse than just Donald Trump exaggerating or bragging or bluffing, as he has suggested,” Honig added. “This means he actually had that classified document in his possession. He was showing it to others, he was bragging about it, he was disseminating it, to use the legalistic word.”

Likely they knew the document was missing from the WH and in his possession. Heck, it could be the most serious of the documents he had. And when they got the boxes they found it. But hius defense would be that he did not know it was there.

And this is why the audio appearing is what settled the choice of indicting him. They now have evidence he did know he had possession and bragged about it, knowing it was classified still.

Thus one thing would send him to prison. Hope so.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:55:43pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

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John doesn’t quite get that Trump followers are adherents of Machiavelli as far as their belief that the ends justify the means. If they get power over others and can use that power to accomplish their goals, then the means to acquire such are justified and any who stand in their way are the ones who are wrong.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 27, 2023 • 8:57:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:00:06pm

On a local note, after looking up showtimes for “Oppenheimer” in Cheyenne after my VA appointment, we would not get out of the movie much before 10PM.

Instead, we’re going to take a trip to Scottsbluff tomorrow or the day after and see it there in a matinee.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:01:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:05:39pm

Raskin slams ‘preposterous’ idea that Biden drug control strategy should include ‘faith’ (The Hill, today)

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) sharply rebuked a suggestion from Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) that President Biden’s national drug control strategy is flawed because it does not mention God or faith, calling that idea “preposterous” in a hearing Thursday.

In a hearing examining the Office of National Drug Control Policy’s efforts to combat the overdose crisis, Raskin argued that mentioning God or faith would violate the U.S. Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

“The gentleman is somehow looking for some kind of religious test, which is explicitly forbidden in the Constitution [for] people for public office, in the drug control strategy,” Raskin said, referring to Gosar. “Surely, [faith] can make a difference in terms of people’s individual lives and individual paths to recovery. People will derive sources of strength from many different places, including religious faith, including their friends and their family, including psychology and so on.”

“But the idea that our drug strategy is flawed because it doesn’t put religion in the center seems to me to be preposterous,” said Raskin, the top Democrat on the House Oversight panel.

“Biden’s National Drug Control Strategy is 150 pages. The words ‘God’ and ‘faith’ are not mentioned one time. People need a purpose to be happy,” Gosar said, before seeming to suggest there was a connection between greater government assistance, a lack of faith in God and a rise in drug overdoses.

Gosar quoted Democratic long-shot presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in saying “unemployment kills,” and added, “The left offers endless benefits. In other words, dependency. Because dependent population votes for the providers of those benefits. But a human being needs a purpose — a good job, the ability to provide for a family, a belief in a creator — in order to be happy.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:07:27pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

The challenge, the big challenge, for 21st century Christians who now live in a world that is highly connected, highly competitive, and aggressive, is to deal with how to come to terms with the 19+ centuries of Christianity.

There are believers out there who are trying to construct systematic theologies that are not Calvinist, not Thomistic, not Anabaptist, not Orthodox, etc.

I get that there is an appeal to an idealized Jesus, but Pavlovitz misses the bigger picture: any idealized Jesus for one person is a heresy to another.

This is the essential problem for religions in general.

It’s one thing to assert that there is an absolute truth, and it is another thing to assert that one knows that absolute truth.

Personally, I think someone who wants to self-identify as “Christian” but wants nothing to do with fundamentalism/evangelicalism as it has come to be known today, would do well to look at:
1) The Friends in their early years;
2) Spinoza and his effects;
3) and maybe a dash of St. Francis of Assisi.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:08:05pm

re: #200 DodgerFan1988

Bethany Mandel says “We need to start befriending neo-Nazis” but I get dragged when I say Christians are scary. Huh.

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:11:26pm

Donald Trump’s typical day from now on.

The Simpsons- Sideshow Bob Steps On Rakes For 10 Minutes

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:12:12pm

re: #204 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I suppose one way would be to simply drop the word “Christian” in describing themselves. Come up with a new word. Leave “Christian” for the wingnuts. Define themselves as “We aren’t those people. We believe X.”

That would probably get them killed as heretics though, since they are the minority of Christians.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:13:19pm

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We believe X.”

As long as that is not “We believe 𝕏” .

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:14:52pm

You knew it was coming.

Far-right figures and conspiracy theorists are alleging without evidence that former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama were responsible for the recent death of their personal chef Tafari Campbell.

“It’s about time we start discussing the Obama Body Count,” posted QAnon conspiracy theorist Liz Crokin on Twitter.

Misinformation around Campbell’s death is another instance of right-wing conspiracy theorists’ years-long track record of falsely claiming that prominent Democratic politicians kill people to maintain political power.

(more)

Far-right figures and conspiracy theorists baselessly allege Obama was responsible for personal chef Tafari Campbell’s death (Media Matters for America, yesterday)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:21:34pm

re: #208 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As long as that is not “We believe 𝕏” .

“We believe 𝕐”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:25:02pm

Let me offer some unsolicited advice out there for our Christian friends (and I am not trying to actively deconvert you or be mean to you):

You’ve got to deal with Paul.

The letters of Paul, his seven authentic letters as well as the pseudepigrapha, have been the cornerstone of Christian theologians since the 3rd century.

The problem is… Paul had problems. And his beliefs as expressed in the letters are not what modern people today think they were.

Even many Christian teachers/preachers confuse Paul with Plato or Socrates.

Furthermore, the cosmology of Paul (and many Jews of his day) is downright weird to modern people.

You know those TV preachers who are into all sorts of charismatic demonstrations and calling out demons here and there - that’s more Pauline than many high-brow Christians may be willing to admit.

Paul believed that spirits controlled the lower heaven, that this world was under the control of an evil spirit (“Satan”).

Self described serious fundamentalists/evangelical teachers in big churches may turn up their noses at those wacky Pentecostalists calling out demons everywhere, but the wacky ones are more in line with Paul’s thinking.

And that is just part of the NT.

So, my dear Christian friends, what are you going to do about Paul? Can you have, practice, a belief system that is not from him?

And since scholars now believe that the book of Mark was influenced by Paul, and the other gospels copy from Mark, that means Paul’s beliefs are foundational to much of Christianity.

This focus on Paul is one of the threads in 20th century scholarship on Christianity and even more so now in the 21st century.

Can you make/recover a Christianity without Paul?

(Hint: you may be able to do so with the Gospel of Thomas, but you will be thought heretics by those in control of Christian denominations.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:28:28pm

“This is Linda Yaccarino’s Twitter ad environment”

Twitter placed ads for USA Today, National Women’s Soccer League, and other major brands on a terrorism-linked neo-Nazi account (Media Matters for America, today)

The lede:

Twitter has placed ads for brands like Honeywell, Discovery, National Women’s Soccer League, the Pittsburgh Steelers, USA Today, and Manchester City on the verified account of the National Socialist Network, a leading neo-Nazi group that engages in violence, has connections to terrorism, and uses Elon Musk’s platform to recruit new members. Twitter’s actions are reminder to advertisers that despite rebranding efforts by Musk and Linda Yaccarino, Twitter (now called X) remains a toxic environment for companies.

(more)

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:33:20pm

re: #198 silverdolphin

This is a big part of what is driving Trump nuts and why he is showing so much hatred towards Jack Smith, that the man is not quailing before him but continues to tighten the screws seemingly every day. One of his usual tricks to avoid criminal charges or to make any filed seemingly disappear is to make particularly persistent prosecutors feel that taking him to court is more trouble than it’s worth and get them to float a plea deal favorable to him. But Smith isn’t some young kid bucking for a promotion or a hungry politician desperate for a notch in the “Win” column to advance his career, so all Trump is doing by attacking him and his family is giving him motivation to see the orange turd behind bars.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:35:12pm

re: #211 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And some of the others, though they are incomplete, such as the Gospel of Mary.

According to the traditional account of the Gospels, Jesus was to be sacrificed by God to redeem the original sin of humans (gaining the knowledge of good and evil).

As such, Judas Iscariot was a necessary component in God’s plan. Yet Judas is treated by all Christians as evil for betraying Jesus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:44:07pm

Conservatives going back to their roots: Firebombing churches.

The front doors of Community Unitarian Universalist Church of Plano, 2875 E. Parker Road, which church officials say has been targeted by a hate group since at least June 25, were damaged early Sunday, July 23, in a firebomb attack, according to reports in the Dallas Morning News.

The church went ahead with Sunday services as usual despite the attack, with extra security provided by Plano police.

A police spokesperson told Dallas Morning News they could not confirm whether the firebomb attack was a hate crime. The church’s current Facebook cover photo speaks to LGBTQ equality, and a photo posted previously to social media show the church flying the rainbow flag from its sign alongside the U.S. flag.

Unitarian Universalist church are traditionally very progressive and very welcoming to LGBTQ people.

(more)

LGBTQ-welcoming UU church in Plano firebombed (Dallas Voice, an LGBT+ outlet, July 24, 2023)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:45:23pm

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Bethany Mandel says “We need to start befriending neo-Nazis” but I get dragged when I say Christians are scary. Huh.

Bethany is Jewish.

Which, unless you also feel comfortable saying Jews are scary, should maybe give you some pause about labeling entire religious categories as scary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:48:50pm

Good company we keep (via Reddit)

The US and one other country are the only countries to not have ratified the convention of the rights of the child

” CRC entered into force in September 1990, and has been ratified by 195 countries, making it the most widely ratified human rights treaty in the world. Two countries, the United States and Somalia, have not ratified the Convention”

because it was opposed by a religious organization:

” “If the American public is informed on this, there’s no chance it will be ratified,” said Michael Farris, a conservative lawyer who founded the Home School Legal Defense Association and helped draft the parental rights amendment.

Farris recently wrote a detailed critique of the Rights of the Child treaty, contending that it potentially could bar U.S. parents from spanking their children and empower young people to have abortions and choose a religion without parental consent. Even if the treaty did not overrule the U.S. Constitution, Farris contends, it would trump all forms of state law.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:54:06pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Bethany is Jewish.

Which, unless you also feel comfortable saying Jews are scary, should maybe give you some pause about labeling entire religious categories as scary.

Jews aren’t trying to kill me.

The assumption I made was because she is a writer for The Deseret News and comments at Ricochet (they bill themselves as “libertarian” but are far-right). Because of where she writes, I assumed “Mormon.”

According to Wikipedia, that fount of all human ken, she was named by the Jewish Telegraph Agency in their list of “50 Jews everyone should follow on Twitter” in 2019.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:54:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:54:25pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Anyway, like people across many faiths and lack thereof, Bethany’s central belief system isn’t grounded in any kind of religious, moral or ethical framework, but in social dominance orientation, in maintaining established power hierarchies.

She just has a bully / toady mentality, an absolutely terrifying number of people do.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:55:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 9:58:30pm

re: #220 goddamnedfrank

Social Dominance Orientation sounds like a fancy way to say “conservatism.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:00:09pm

re: #221 Captain Ron

Well, she worked for a Christian private segregation academy school.

Then, the phone call came. After 19 years at First Baptist Academy in Baytown, Maris and her coworker were fired.

“I feel like we were treated like criminals,” she said.

According to the school’s senior pastor, it’s all because of this line in the school operating policies manual:

“I will act in a godly and moral fashion at work, on Facebook and in my community.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:02:39pm

re: #220 goddamnedfrank

Anyway, like people across many faiths and lack thereof, Bethany’s central belief system isn’t grounded in any kind of religious, moral or ethical framework, but in social dominance orientation, in maintaining established power hierarchies.

She just has a bully / toady mentality, an absolutely terrifying number of people do.

And the thing that always gets me is they’d kill her just as soon as look at her. Leopards and faces and all.

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darthstar  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:06:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:33:31pm

Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld equates safe spaces for minorities with the KKK and segregation” (Media Matters for America)

MSNBC did an article about Black people going camping. In an interview one person said they felt unsafe around campers flying giant Trump flags and such.

“The Five” then goes on to make fun of Black people for four minutes in the video.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:36:45pm

re: #59 Vicious Babushka

Mastodon post won’t embed. Grrr…

“Copy link to post” & paste it in LGF

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:37:56pm

Nunes territory iirc.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:38:34pm

re: #211 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

On an entirely unrelated note, are Sisyphus and Cassandra trying to push the love child up a hill to have it endlessly roll back to the bottom, while warning people at the bottom, “Look out below!” /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:41:06pm

re: #228 Captain Ron

Nunes territory iirc.

I gotta be freeeeeee!—The Market (tm)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:47:56pm

Santa Monica Goebbels weighs in.

Stephen Miller Says Only Plea Deal Hunter Biden Should Get is ‘Tell Us Every Single Thing Your Father Did or Go to Jail’ (Mediatite, July 26, 2023)

Stephen Miller, a former senior adviser to 45th President Donald Trump, told Newsmax on Wednesday that the only plea deal President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden should get is “tell us every single thing your father did or go to jail.”

(more)

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:51:27pm

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld equates safe spaces for minorities with the KKK and segregation” (Media Matters for America)

MSNBC did an article about Black people going camping. In an interview one person said they felt unsafe around campers flying giant Trump flags and such.

“The Five” then goes on to make fun of Black people for four minutes in the video.

Yes, because refusing to associate with the modern day KKK makes you no different than the KKK. MAGAt logic at its finest./////

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:53:51pm

re: #151 Belafon

I found the ultimate book. It’s called the Mathematical Theory of Black Holes. It’s by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, one of the early super-geniuses involved in using the General Theory to understand stars and black holes. You can look at the table of contents and realize it’s so dense space curves around it.

I wish I knew a physicist that could help me figure out what I could study in order to be able to understand that book.

*snip*

Chandrasekhar Limit

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:54:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:56:16pm

re: #233 BeenHereAwhile

Chandrasekhar Limit

Now with more ‘splody white dwarfs.

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 10:56:54pm

Jack Smith has a treasure trove of phones — and they could nail the conspiracy: Legal expert

If they used Androids, it would be easy to crack them. But iPhones are more secure. Except…

up until just recently, the FBI could still subpoena text messages from iPhones because they were not encrypted when stored on iCloud. In Jan, 2023, Apple closed than loophole and encrypts the icCloud data.

So, I expect that they did not need to crack the phones if they could get the iCloud data. Again, they really were taking notes at a criminal conspiracy.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:03:12pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Santa Monica Goebbels weighs in.

Stephen Miller Says Only Plea Deal Hunter Biden Should Get is ‘Tell Us Every Single Thing Your Father Did or Go to Jail’ (Mediatite, July 26, 2023)

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It’s been hilarious the last couple days, listening to idiots like Wormtongue confidently declare that the judge somehow overturned the entire DOJ apple cart with the questions about a FARA investigation and that now Hunter’s going down hard unless he squeals on everybody. You know, as opposed to the judge just catching the DOJ and Hunter’s lawyers not being on the same page about the plea deal and giving them time to get their shit together before appearing again in her court. But I guess that’s what happens when the media rushes to the internets with headlines about the plea deal being “ripped up” or “shattered.”

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silverdolphin  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:04:47pm

Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken

Somebody committed fraud and needs to be sent away for an 𝕏–tra long time.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:09:00pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:22:09pm

re: #238 silverdolphin

Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken

Somebody committed fraud and needs to be sent away for an 𝕏-tra long time.

This is the bit that stuck out to me:

In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla “pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs.” BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche “typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver’s real-world tests.” As a result, “400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds.”

IOW, Tesla’s fudging their numbers to seem competitive if not superior to other EV manufacturers and maintain the mystique of being at the “cutting edge” of EV development rather than just another manufacturer on the market. If they’re not the ones leading the effort but now just part of the pack, and with all the damage to the brand done by Musk’s bullshittery, then those sticker prices start to become difficult to justify.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:23:35pm

Since this preacher is an Old Testament fire and brimstone kinda guy, he might be afraid someone will employ the Old Testament’s cure for this (stoning).

‘Prophet’ Robin Bullock Insists That Prophets Could Not Possibly Have Been Wrong About the 2020 Election (Right Wing Watch, July 27, 2023)

Right-wing pastor Robin Bullock is among the group of self-proclaimed “prophets” who repeatedly prophesied that former President Donald Trump would win reelection in 2020 and who have steadfastly refused to acknowledge that they were wrong or admit that Joe Biden is president.

During Tuesday’s episode of his weekly “The Eleventh Hour” program, Bullock once again insisted that the prophesies regarding the 2020 election were correct, arguing rather circularly that since he and other prophets are prophets, there is no way they could have been wrong.

“There’s some things that we’ve given in a prophetic word that I’ve said that absolutely there’s no way you could have made it up,” Bullock asserted. “They come to pass, and it’s all recorded. [There are] prophecies other prophets have given that are astounding. You just look at it and say, ‘You can’t make this stuff up.’”

“Do you think that they would hit it on everything like that and miss who won the election?” he asked. “Folks, that’s stupid.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:26:48pm

re: #238 silverdolphin

Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken

Somebody committed fraud and needs to be sent away for an 𝕏-tra long time.

From the article…

The directive to present the optimistic range estimates came from Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk, this person said.

If it can be indisputably proven that Musk did, in fact, willfully engage in a scheme to deceive his customers - and then covered it up with that so-called “Diversion Team” - then I say throw the book at him.

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Captain Ron  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:31:33pm

No no he’s not dead, he’s, he’s restin’! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn’it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:44:01pm

re: #243 Captain Ron

He’s just pining for the fjords Bund.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:47:06pm

re: #243 Captain Ron

So to where do the donor class go now?

To the brown candidates?

That’ll be novel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:52:56pm

“What women really keep in their purses” (Reddit’s r/NotHowGirlsWork)

I lost Colorado yesterday! 😭 Anyone seen it? (meme, post of the week)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:55:06pm

re: #19 Captain Ron

Houston schools eliminate librarians and ‘repurpose’ libraries into ‘discipline centers’

Where children are held in place with MAGNETS!!!

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2023 • 11:56:46pm

re: #243 Captain Ron

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No no he’s not dead, he’s, he’s restin’! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn’it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

Ron’s run head-first into the same problem that Tailgunner Ted did in 2016: Trump has the unfair advantage of being Trump. In 2016 he could be a raging, totally unapologetic asshole because he had no political career to lose and all sorts of advantage to gain babbling like a loon. This go around, he’s running on wreaking bloody vengeance on everybody who has “wronged” him and giving the MAGAts chubbies over the idea of the ultimate “owning” of the liberals by reelecting the most hated man in political history to a second term.

Compared to that, Meatball Ron making life miserable for a few Disney lawyers is small potatoes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:04:23am

re: #193 Joe Bacon ✅

Right-Wing Pastor John Amanchukwu Says Allowing Students Access to LGBTQ-Friendly Books Is ‘Mental Rape

Allowing children access to pedpohle priests and youth pastors is physical rape.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:04:29am

My Sweetie has started in on baking (best done in Summer in the middle of the night around here).

Tonight she’s making her specialty: Wry Brownies (they are made with rye flour).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:24:23am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Ron’s run head-first into the same problem that Tailgunner Ted did in 2016: Trump has the unfair advantage of being Trump.

Despite four years in office, he still sells himself successfully to his base as the Ultimate Outsider and Enemy of the Deep State and Lügenpresse.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:28:00am

So apparently “Those Old Scientists” was the SNW writers giving us a breather between two pretty fucking grim episodes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:55:02am

The so-called Nebraska Freedom Coalition has filed an action to dismiss State Senator Megan Hunt’s (I-District 8) defamation per se lawsuit against them.

They accused her of “grooming” and being a paedophile in a public release because she has a transgender son.

Defamation Suit Filed in Douglas County District Court (PDF, fourteen pages. District courts in Nebraska only deal with cases in excess of $50,000.)

1. The Nebraska Freedom Coalition (the “Coalition”) stated that Megan Hunt sexually groomed and abused her own thirteen-year-old child. The Coalition made these intentional, reckless, and knowingly false statements about Megan Hunt, the Plaintiff. Its lies were willful and malicious. The Coalition accused Hunt of serious crimes and attacked her status as a loving and caring mother. Not only did the Coalition lie about Hunt, it leaned into its lies after a retraction demand, reiterated its lies, and then expressly stated that the Coalition intended to accuse Hunt of a serious crime.
2. These malicious and false lies about Hunt had vicious consequences. After the Coalition’s posts accusing Hunt of abusing and grooming her child she was called a groomer on Twitter no fewer than 231 times. She received 25 phones calls calling her a groomer and/or pedophile, and 34 emails accusing her of the same and often unfit to be a mother. One email suggested that Hunt’s genitalia should be cut off and threatened physical harm. Another indicated that she should be publicly executed while another provided her home address and stated her son should be kidnapped. After receipt of our retraction demand, the Coalition subsequently made clear that when they called Hunt a groomer, they were accusing her of serious crimes against her child; sexual and physical abuse.

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21. After the Coalition’s posts accusing Hunt of abusing and grooming her child she was called a groomer on Twitter no fewer than 231 times. She received 25 phones calls calling her a groomer and/or pedophile, and 34 emails accusing her of the same and often unfit to be a mother. One email suggested that her genitalia should be cut off and another threatened physical harm. The emails above are just a sample of some of the messages she received accusing her of crimes and threatening her with physical violence right after the Coalition made their posts.

(more, with samples)

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JC1  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:00:07am

re: #172 Belafon

Thanks. I’m hoping to make it all the way through to quantum field theory as well. (Why dream small?)

It’s been 33 years since I really studied math and physics, so I’m starting over. As I scour the internet for “what should I study?” One of the thing I run into is “is this list of books sufficient for me to study ________ next?” such as your mention of differential geometry. I only have a vague understanding of the term, and clearly don’t have the math to move onto it.

Check out Khan academy and 3blue1brown.
3blue1brown.com
I find their explanations more intuitive when I need a refresher.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:02:16am

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Grooming” has a specific definition in the Nebraska Revised Statutes. What the so-called Freedom Coalition is accusing her of is a felony.

When she demanded a retraction, they doubled down and accused her of physical abuse (also a felony).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:18:22am

Defamation cases are harder to assert if one is a public figure (such as a politician). Nevertheless, if the statements are wilful and defamatory, particularly when the assertion of fact is a felony, the public figure can press forward with the claim in court.

Sen. Hunt’s case leaves me wondering what I would do if something like that happened to me.

I am not a public figure to the vast majority of the nation, but I am a public figure in my village. If someone accused me of crap like that, would I have a higher bar to clear than someone else in my town? IANAL.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:21:12am

Kewl photograph of Scotts Bluff National Monument in Scottsbluff (Reddit’s r/Nebraska)

Mirrored Monument

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silverdolphin  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:22:46am

Watch ‘epic’ moment three whales breach in unison

Very cool. Nice way to end the day. Off yo bed.

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ericblair  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:31:58am

re: #254 JC1

Check out Khan academy and 3blue1brown.
3blue1brown.com
I find their explanations more intuitive when I need a refresher.

Yep. Seeing this material animated instead of trying to figure it out from a diagram and equations is so much easier. Especially when you get to vector calculus and complex analysis. BACK IN MY DAY we had to read it on dead trees while a prof stared at a blackboard and mumbled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 1:37:12am

My Gripenheimer about Oppenheimer.

They mention him going to study in Göttingen, Germany and show an idyllic German city nestled in the Alps.

Göttingen is an idyllic town (having been spared damage in WW2) but it is nowhere near the Alps and does not at all look like the way Phillip Nolan potrayed it (I know because I stayed there then I first came to Germany)

Otherwise a brilliant film and certainly worth seeing, especially in the cinema for the full sound and visual effects.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 28, 2023 • 2:48:32am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Ron’s run head-first into the same problem that Tailgunner Ted did in 2016: Trump has the unfair advantage of being Trump. In 2016 he could be a raging, totally unapologetic asshole because he had no political career to lose and all sorts of advantage to gain babbling like a loon. This go around, he’s running on wreaking bloody vengeance on everybody who has “wronged” him and giving the MAGAts chubbies over the idea of the ultimate “owning” of the liberals by reelecting the most hated man in political history to a second term.

Compared to that, Meatball Ron making life miserable for a few Disney lawyers is small potatoes.

And the fact that the MAGA crowd view Trump being an asshole and any other GOP politician being an asshole differently.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 28, 2023 • 3:09:55am

How about some music to soothe the savage beast?

Paramore - Running Out Of Time (Official Video)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2023 • 3:26:42am

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hope she wins. That’s straight up defamation and a blatant lie which they throw against LGBTs and their allies. Disgusting.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2023 • 3:31:29am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Anyone still following these jokers wants to be scammed

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:05:12am

re: #264 Patricia Kayden

Anyone still following these jokers wants to be scammed

Or so brainwashed they can’t tell they’re being scammed.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:15:41am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As such, Judas Iscariot was a necessary component in God’s plan. Yet Judas is treated by all Christians as evil for betraying Jesus.

But jesus was supposed to die, why do Christians get upset about him being executed?

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Nojay UK  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:18:23am

re: #266 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

But jesus was supposed to die, why do Christians get upset about him being executed?

Many of them wear a small torture-execution device around their neck. I don’t think they’re upset, more relieved that He’s not around telling them how to behave any more.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:24:11am

re: #267 Nojay UK

Many of them wear a small torture-execution device around their neck. I don’t think they’re upset, more relieved that He’s not around telling them how to behave any more.

Yeah, it makes behaving like a shit much easier when your living God isn’t there to tell you in person that you’re being a shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:25:09am

re: #263 Patricia Kayden

Hope she wins. That’s straight up defamation and a blatant lie which they throw against LGBTs and their allies. Disgusting.

Especially when it applies more often to their own people than it ever does to LGBTs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:27:43am

re: #267 Nojay UK

Many of them wear a small torture-execution device around their neck. I don’t think they’re upset, more relieved that He’s not around telling them how to behave any more.

As I understand, the early Christians were not fixated on Jesus’ crucifixion, but rather on this miracles and his resurrection. The first known depiction of Jesus’ crucifixion comes from the 3rd or 4th century.

And even having been raised Catholic, I coud never begin to understand the Church’s fixation on death, suffering and martyrdom.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:33:40am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I understand, the early Christians were not fixated on Jesus’ crucifixion, but rather on this miracles and his resurrection. The first known depiction of Jesus’ crucifixion comes from the 3rd or 4th century.

And even having been raised Catholic, I coud never begin to understand the Church’s fixation on death, suffering and martyrdom.

Super sexy icons?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:40:57am

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

Super sexy icons?

That is part of it, I realized that a lot of them are also sexual deviants, just very religiously repressed ones.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:54:53am

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

And Floridian parents are okay with this drivel? What the actual hell? Columbus was a genocidal maniac. And Black people don’t care about White guilt. We want equality and justice.

Think about it from Florida’s perspective, though. If not for Columbus, we never would have known that Indians don’t do well working in brutal heat, and are vulnerable to yellow fever and malaria; thus, the need for black slaves. And slavery eventually generated all kinds of useful trades for black people: shoe-shiner, jazz pianist……

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:56:53am

re: #32 EPR-radar

PragerU material is put out by conservatives, therefore it is all lies.

The Republican party really is setting out on the road that leads directly to death camps and world war, no off-ramps, no exits. Lying bullshit about history like this PragerU crap and slavery apologetics are unmistakable warning signs.

Sensible people in the US have to contain the GOP menace before they kill us all.

Or we have to end up killing them.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:57:19am

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2023 • 4:57:50am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is part of it, I realized that a lot of them are also sexual deviants, just very religiously repressed ones.

The Japanese author Mishima Yukio, a closeted gay man, as a child was sexually obsessed with a famous painting of the martyrdom of St. Sebastian (he wrote about this). That inspired him to take up body-building and to lament the loss of samurai-like purity and masculinity among Japanese men.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:03:11am

re: #43 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

50%!!!

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Reality, what a concept.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:06:56am

re: #6 Unabogie

Look, I don’t think Jack Smith should just run up the score like this…
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Just kidding. Charge the fuck out of that monster. He deserves every last bit of it.

The urge to throw the literal book at Trump (all charges in Title 18 of the US Code) is tempered by the fact that Smith needs to take into account what a jury might do. You don’t want to overload the jury with charges; you want to get convictions and guilty verdicts, and if you throw too many charges you get the possibility of confusion and charges overlapping may add to the confusion.

So, you get fewer charges, but ones that are more likely to result in conviction.

That you’ve got Smith adding these charges to the documents case shows just how bad things are for Trump, because Smith knows that he can pile on and has the confidence that the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed all these felonies.

The next set of federal indictments will also reflect this.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:13:41am

I suppose I should stick around to continue torturing you guys with these.

Wordle 769 2/6

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:17:41am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now with more ‘splody white dwarfs.

Specifically, BTW, he was the first person to mathematically prove that white dwarves could be no bigger than 1.4 times the mass of the sun, any larger and they would have to collapse into something different.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:23:29am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I understand, the early Christians were not fixated on Jesus’ crucifixion, but rather on this miracles and his resurrection. The first known depiction of Jesus’ crucifixion comes from the 3rd or 4th century.

And even having been raised Catholic, I coud never begin to understand the Church’s fixation on death, suffering and martyrdom.

It also represents when the religion went from defense to offense. Specifically, they were no longer a small cult that had to be careful. Now they were a religion that could use their power to assert that they were always under threat and needed to fight back.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:26:16am

re: #280 Belafon

Specifically, BTW, he was the first person to mathematically prove that white dwarves could be no bigger than 1.4 times the mass of the sun, any larger and they would have to collapse into something different.

It’s the whites that are always trying to overstep//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:26:59am

re: #281 Belafon

It also represents when the religion went from defense to offense. Specifically, they were no longer a small cult that had to be careful. Now they were a religion that could use their power to assert that they were always under threat and needed to fight back.

You mean like Replacement Theory?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:34:19am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

Never

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:35:21am

re: #278 lawhawk

The urge to throw the literal book at Trump (all charges in Title 18 of the US Code) is tempered by the fact that Smith needs to take into account what a jury might do. You don’t want to overload the jury with charges; you want to get convictions and guilty verdicts, and if you throw too many charges you get the possibility of confusion and charges overlapping may add to the confusion.

So, you get fewer charges, but ones that are more likely to result in conviction.

That you’ve got Smith adding these charges to the documents case shows just how bad things are for Trump, because Smith knows that he can pile on and has the confidence that the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed all these felonies.

The next set of federal indictments will also reflect this.

someone agrees

Former Trump White House lawyer Ty Cobb said the evidence against the former president over his handling of classified documents was now “overwhelming” and would “last an antiquity”, after new charges were filed in the case on Thursday, The Guardian reports.

Said Cobb: “I think this original indictment was engineered to last a thousand years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity. This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:38:37am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

not a chance

you are a reliable upding, especially when the rest of lgf has ignored one of my brilliant posts

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:39:10am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So when do these companies stop advertising on Twitter?

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:40:03am

re: #285 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Cobb was a former federal prosecutor, so he knows a thing or two about charging people and he knows Trump’s fooked (legal term). Cobb left the regime before he could be roped into more Trump crimes (as every Trump lawyer seemingly needs their own lawyers after breaking the law in concert with Trump).

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:40:44am

re: #285 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

someone agrees

and another

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:42:49am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:44:50am

re: #290 William Lewis

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:48:50am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

You have to be welcome here? I always thought it was just don’t sit on the furniture nude and you’ll be ok. Was I doing it wrong?

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:49:24am
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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:59:45am

re: #291 Nerdy Fish

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:00:39am

re: #289 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

and another

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Good article about the importance of the superseding indictment. It makes a strong case even stronger as Trump demonstrates consciousness of guilt by attempting to destroy evidence.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:01:36am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:17:37am

re: #292 Belafon

You have to be welcome here? I always thought it was just don’t sit on the furniture nude and you’ll be ok. Was I doing it wrong?

There is that pineapple pizza war thing…

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:19:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:23:28am

re: #298 lawhawk

Phoenix finally got some monsoon relief yesterday. But yes, for the city to remain habitable, they have to really rethink urban design and heat retention.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:24:57am

They’ve conied a phrase: “DeSantasy”

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:27:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:29:45am

re: #301 No Malarkey!

Biden Economy leads to collapse of personal-consumption-expenditures price index, down 3% in June from a year earlier

It was the lowest 12-month print since March 2021

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:35:10am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Phoenix finally got some monsoon relief yesterday. But yes, for the city to remain habitable, they have to really rethink urban design and heat retention.

They have had an effort to try and reduce water consumption by getting rid of lawns and higher intensity water usage like golf courses, but golf is one of the reasons that people have moved to the goddamned desert that is reverting to the mean on water availability.

There’s not enough water to go around. How do you address heat islands and heat retention? Well, you need designs that incorporate more heat dispersing elements.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:39:02am

re: #303 lawhawk

How do you address heat islands and heat retention? Well, you need designs that incorporate more heat dispersing elements.

Phoenix is built around highways, five-lane main boulevards and strip malls with enormous parking lots.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:40:31am

This is pretty funny. In box due to length.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:42:19am

re: #305 No Malarkey!

I take issue with the beginning: “Day 3,178.” I don’t think he’d last the over 8 years that corresponds to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:42:47am

re: #305 No Malarkey!

not enough Caps and ALL CAPS passages, and spelling too correct and consistent.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:43:41am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:43:53am

Hows this for an inline news story from today’s electoral-vote.com

At the outset of the day, Trump’s lawyers were in Washington to meet with Jack Smith and his team. The legal eagles presumably thought this was a run of the mill meeting, at which they would be advised that Trump is getting close to being indicted (yet again) by a federal grand jury,

run of the mill and indicted in the same sentence as matter of fact as that.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:47:52am

Good morning!

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CleverToad  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:48:24am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2023 • 6:54:57am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

Knock it off….. Don’t you start now.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:07:18am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:09:49am
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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:15:07am

re: #314 Belafon

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For 95% of that period of Greek history, the Spartans were bullies, and the Athenians held them in check, for the most part. Spartan military dominance mostly existed against external enemies who were already at a disadvantage against the coordinated and (relatively) heavily armed and armored Greek phalanxes.

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:18:15am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Bethany Mandel says “We need to start befriending neo-Nazis” but I get dragged when I say Christians are scary. Huh.

Bethany Mandel is not a Christian, but she is one of their useful idiots, like Ben Shapiro and LibsOfTikTok.

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JC1  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:18:41am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You knew it was coming.

(more)

Far-right figures and conspiracy theorists baselessly allege Obama was responsible for personal chef Tafari Campbell’s death (Media Matters for America, yesterday)

Good. It’ll distract them from Hunter Biden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:22:08am

re: #315 Nerdy Fish

For 95% of that period of Greek history, the Spartans were bullies, and the Athenians held them in check, for the most part. Spartan military dominance mostly existed against external enemies who were already at a disadvantage against the coordinated and (relatively) heavily armed and armored Greek phalanxes.

Like Texans, they had one great Moron Libation moment in the sun that they are still renowned for.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:27:09am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like Texans, they had one great Moron Libation moment in the sun that they are still renowned for.

And to my point, that was against the Persians, who had few heavy infantry to counter the walking tanks of the Greeks, and in the narrow pass of Thermopylae, no ability to maneuver with cavalry (and no guarantee of success even if there had been; hoplites’ long heavy spears made cavalry charges difficult, too.) In fact, it’s a perfect illustration of the authors’ point, because the presence of only 300 Spartan hoplites was due to their completely fucked up politics; they placed a higher value on the omens they supposedly received from their gods concerning themselves than on an external threat posed to them and to all of Greece.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:28:27am

re: #316 Vicious Babushka

Bethany Mandel is not a Christian, but she is one of their useful idiots, like Ben Shapiro and LibsOfTikTok.

Why for god’s sake would anybody need to befriend neo-Nazis unless they were promoting fascism?

I am tired of attempts to mainstream or normalize white supremacism or Naziism in any form.

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:29:00am

This is what we had for dinner last night. The fish was removed from the platter, skinned & boned, right after this photo was taken.

Mastodon

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dat_said  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:31:30am

re: #238 silverdolphin

Tesla exaggerated EV range so much that drivers thought cars were broken

Somebody committed fraud and needs to be sent away for an 𝕏-tra long time.

Lying to the customers is what those smart business people built their entire business model around.

We (implantable medical device company engineering design team) once had a marketing director ask us to change the input parameters into the validated longevity estimator for a soon-to-be-released Cardiac Resynchronization Therapy defibrillator (CRT-D, for those in the field). He felt that would give his team a leg up on the competition when it came to marketing and wouldn’t be technically lying.

Thing is, while putting in use parameters like 0% cardiac pacing and 0 shocks delivered per year might actually happen for 0.5% of the patient population, those parameters are nowhere near average use case. We shut him down quickly with extreme vocabulary. Not sure why he left the company a few months later.

If interested, battery longevity for the implanted CRT-D at that time would have been up to 15 years if you actually don’t really use the device (0% pacing, 0 shocks, extremely limited data/telemetry from the device) compared to 7 to 10 years of real use.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:33:57am

Unfu… nope… totally fucking believable as these lunatics will mutate their conspiracy theories about vaccinations rather than accept reality and facts that they worked, and that the right wingers’ refusal to vaccinate resulted in higher death rates in GOP dominated states once vaccinations became widely available.

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A Cranky One  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:37:39am

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:38:00am

re: #139 sagehen

anybody here watching Dead City? Any feels you care to discuss from the season finale?

I was like “Okay, can’t wait for episode 7.” And then I realized, “fuck, that was the finale. What exactly got resolved?”

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:38:35am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why for god’s sake would anybody need to befriend neo-Nazis unless they were promoting fascism?

I am tired of attempts to mainstream or normalize white supremacism or Naziism in any form.

Because they are allies in the existential war against the satanic, child-killing {{{Globalists}}}. //

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:39:09am

re: #323 lawhawk

Uh, “Pureblood”…the reason so many more folks died in red states is that they listened to liars like you and Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs tell them to never get the shot…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:40:42am

re: #326 No Malarkey!

Because they are allies in the existential war against the satanic, child-killing {{{Globalists}}}. //

Oh yes, we still hate those (((globalists))) more than we hate LGBTQs or Socialists.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:41:08am

re: #323 lawhawk

Unfu… nope… totally fucking believable as these lunatics will mutate their conspiracy theories about vaccinations rather than accept reality and facts that they worked, and that the right wingers’ refusal to vaccinate resulted in higher death rates in GOP dominated states once vaccinations became widely available.

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Everything is about the culture war; there is nothing the radical right won’t lie about to promote it. For example, an anti-Aids program which has saved 25 million lives is in danger of not being reauthorized because of a lie that it promotes abortions.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:41:48am

re: #279 Nerdy Fish

I suppose I should stick around to continue torturing you guys with these.

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Adding my bit to the torture…

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mmmirele  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:43:55am

re: #199 Targetpractice

John doesn’t quite get that Trump followers are adherents of Machiavelli as far as their belief that the ends justify the means. If they get power over others and can use that power to accomplish their goals, then the means to acquire such are justified and any who stand in their way are the ones who are wrong.

I’ve been listening to a book, “Hey, Hun!” (about multi-level marketing) by Emily Lynn Paulsen. While much of the activity took place in the ’10s and was generally before Trump, she points out that Trump is especially good at giving voice to the grievances of his followers. This was part of her discussion about how “business opportunity meetings” are used to exploit what the targets (usually mothers, usually white, usually upper middle class) have as their “pain points” (whether real or imaginary). And like Trump, multi-level marketing outfits have served as incubation containers for a lot of conspiracy theories, past and present. Remember the conspiracy theory that Procter & Gamble was satanic because their old, old logo was moon and stars? Yep, that was pushed by a bunch of Amway distributors in the 1990s.

(This Atlas Obscura article goes into a lot of detail regarding the P&G logo: atlasobscura.com )

Anyway, my point is that Trump has to be listened to, as much as I hate it, because, dammit, he’s speaking for the unhinged, conspiracy laden Americans and it’s *unnerving*.

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:47:26am

Finally.

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:50:07am

So now we get to read about how Biden is seeking to emasculate the Military by undermining the Chain of Command with Woke Witch Hunting

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:50:59am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

You can’t be serious. Don’t ever leave.

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Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:51:17am

Birbie

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:51:29am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So now we get to read about how Biden is seeking to emasculate the Military by undermining the Chain of Command with Woke Witch Hunting

“Boys will be boys,” they will say, and, “This is why women shouldn’t be allowed in the military.”

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:51:35am

As a sixty year old, I will be getting three vaccines this Fall/Winter as soon as they are available: the next Covid Booster, my annual Flu shot, and an RSV vaccine.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:51:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:53:11am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Phoenix finally got some monsoon relief yesterday. But yes, for the city to remain habitable, they have to really rethink urban design and heat retention.

Nothing against the folks who live there, but you could not pay me enough to move to Phoenix.

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mmmirele  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:53:36am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Phoenix is built around highways, five-lane main boulevards and strip malls with enormous parking lots.

Pull up a map of the Phoenix area. Even more than Salt Lake City, which is one of the griddiest grid cities I’ve lived in, it’s built on a grid. One mile squares, each square surrounded by a four lane highway. And, actually, the Phoenix area doesn’t have much further it can spread. On the Scottsdale side, it’s hemmed in by the Pima Maricopa Community and the Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation. Further southeast, growth is constrained by mountains, state parks and national parks. On the south side, it’s a similar story, with the Gila River reservation. On the west side, Luke AFB is a block on construction. The north has more mountains and a freeway. Oh, and just to remind everyone, Phoenix is only ~1.7 million of Maricopa County’s nearly 5 million people. There are half a million people out here in Mesa, for example.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:54:30am

re: #338 lawhawk

Krazy Kari is deluded thinking Trump knows how to play chess.

That idiot has no clue about how to play a Ruy Lopez, Sicilian, Queen Gambit or Nimzo-Indian defense.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:56:19am

re: #315 Nerdy Fish

For 95% of that period of Greek history, the Spartans were bullies, and the Athenians held them in check, for the most part. Spartan military dominance mostly existed against external enemies who were already at a disadvantage against the coordinated and (relatively) heavily armed and armored Greek phalanxes.

Actually, the Athenians were worse bullies to all their league’s “voluntary” members. The Spartans maintained a nasty police state, but they didn’t try to spread their ways around the rest of Greece — that’s why they found so many allies among the other city-states.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:56:36am

re: #338 lawhawk

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In the Christian Old Testament, the Pharaoh is devastated by one of the plagues and is about to free the Jews, only to have God turn his heart back. I always thought that was a rather bad form of scripture, God threatening and simultaneously making it impossible for him to get out. I think the Pharaoh must have had a Kari Lake figure.

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dat_said  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:58:52am

re: #322 dat_said

Climbing back up on my soapbox…

The ironic part of the marketing guy wanting us to fudge greater longevity numbers is that NONE of the actual decision makers care about longevity other than maybe a check box on an evaluation form.

Insurance companies don’t want to pay extra for longevity because they only care about the current fiscal year. Does longer life reduce overall health care costs by reducing lifetime replacement surgeries? Yes - but they all think the cost savings will go to Medicare or some other insurance company, so they won’t pay.

Hospitals and doctors don’t like the loss of replacement surgeries - low risk, easily scheduled and managed, and high return. Going from what was typical 5-year longevity to 10-year longevity cut their overall replacement market by 50%.

And, OMG, Wall Street hates it for the same reason as hospitals - reduction of replacement market (though they’ve been euphemistically referring to that as “headwinds”).

Better battery technology for implantables was driven by engineers who wanted better products for the patients - reduction in replacement surgeries is an improvement in safety (one less opportunity for infection) and a quality-of-life improvement (who the hell wouldn’t want three surgeries over the span of 30 year instead of 6 or 7?).

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 7:59:15am

re: #335 Vicious Babushka

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:03:04am

re: #325 steve_davis

I was like “Okay, can’t wait for episode 7.” And then I realized, “fuck, that was the finale. What exactly got resolved?”

The plot for the next Negan series: “King of New York”.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:03:18am

Dramatic testimony from Fanone at the sentencing hearing currently underway for one of the insurrectionists who attacked him, delivered while he was being glared at by supporters of the terrorist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:04:21am

re: #339 Eclectic Cyborg

Nothing against the folks who live there, but you could not pay me enough to move to Phoenix.

I lived there back in the 70’s when it atually still cooled off at night

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:07:10am

re: #342 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Actually, the Athenians were worse bullies to all their league’s “voluntary” members. The Spartans maintained a nasty police state, but they didn’t try to spread their ways around the rest of Greece — that’s why they found so many allies among the other city-states.

I was on a train returning to Athens after touring the Peloponnese (including Sparta, of course.) I had a tiny conversation with a gentleman who spoke a little English, and told him we had been touring the ancient cities and studying the history of Greece. He said something to the effect of, ‘Ah, the days of glory. All we do now is fight each other.’

It was the most amusing thing I heard on that trip.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:08:20am

re: #321 Vicious Babushka

This is what we had for dinner last night. The fish was removed from the platter, skinned & boned, right after this photo was taken.

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you didnt call.
i’m disappointed

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:11:07am

re: #323 lawhawk

Unfu… nope… totally fucking believable as these lunatics will mutate their conspiracy theories about vaccinations rather than accept reality and facts that they worked, and that the right wingers’ refusal to vaccinate resulted in higher death rates in GOP dominated states once vaccinations became widely available.

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‘truth revealed’?

ok, where’s the proof?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:12:16am

re: #351 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

‘truth revealed’?

ok, where’s the proof?

The truth is not valuable to you unless you do your own research. I’m just laying the breadcrumbs to follow. /Q

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:14:19am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:17:12am

‘Free falling to the dumps’: Ex-GOP strategist lays out reasons why DeSantis’ campaign is imploding

uh…we all know why! It’s because il Duce is an asshole! 😉

DeSantis’s Crumbling Campaign | Not My Party with Tim Miller

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:18:31am

re: #349 wrenchwench

I was on a train returning to Athens after touring the Peloponnese (including Sparta, of course.) I had a tiny conversation with a gentleman who spoke a little English, and told him we had been touring the ancient cities and studying the history of Greece. He said something to the effect of, ‘Ah, the days of glory. All we do now is fight each other.’

It was the most amusing thing I heard on that trip.

I see we’re not the only people who’ve given up on teaching history.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:19:50am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The truth is not valuable to you unless you do your own research. I’m just laying the breadcrumbs to follow. /Q

from now on this is my go-to for ‘research’

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:20:08am

re: #347 No Malarkey!

Dramatic testimony from Fanone at the sentencing hearing currently underway for one of the insurrectionists who attacked him, delivered while he was being glared at by supporters of the terrorist.

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He’s had to deal with constant harassment—from fellow cops not to mention the terrorist supporters (I know, Venn diagram and all).

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:24:03am

The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearer.
The “law and order” GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearer.
The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearerMessiah.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:25:06am

re: #354 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Free falling to the dumps’: Ex-GOP strategist lays out reasons why DeSantis’ campaign is imploding

uh…we all know why! It’s because il Duce is an asshole! 😉

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DeSantis is not closing the gap with Trump, which is widening, but he is with Vivek Ramaswamy, who is currently in third place, watching DeSantis’ numbers fall back toward him. The members of Cult45 just don’t like politicians, which is why it will be very difficult for one of them to assume the mantle of leadership of MAGA from Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:26:13am

re: #358 lawhawk

The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearerMessiah.

Most of the party would see it as a show of disloyalty and caving into the Deep State Witch Hunt if they withdraw their support from DJT.

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:26:27am

Mastodon

[…]

Americans have heard this before, but they don’t seem to understand or know what they can do about it. Perhaps when we realize that in the United States 20 new mothers die every year for every one Dutch mother, for instance, we can begin to grasp the scale of the problem. And for every Dutch mother who dies, 50 Black American mothers die. Researchers have found that the majority of these deaths are preventable. That means that in this country every year, hundreds of young women die needlessly, each death a tragedy for her and her family, and for her newborn. There are things we can do to change that.

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in this country every year, hundreds of young women die needlessly

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:27:46am

re: #359 No Malarkey!

The members of Cult45 just don’t like politicians, which is why it will be very difficult for one of them to assume the mantle of leadership of MAGA from Trump.

Unless DJT names and grooms a successor, supporters will stick with him until the very end.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:27:54am

re: #359 No Malarkey!

DeSantis is not closing the gap with Trump, which is widening, but he is with Vivek Ramaswamy, who is currently in third place, watching DeSantis’ numbers fall back toward him. The members of Cult45 just don’t like politicians, which is why it will be very difficult for one of them to assume the mantle of leadership of MAGA from Trump.

Part of the problem, too, is that with Trump in the race, the non-Trumpers have to find a way to attack Trump without attacking Trump. If he wasn’t in the race at all, it’s very possible that DeathSentence would be the runaway favorite for the nomination, depending on how the MAGAt base perceive him as far as toadying up to their mango messiah.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:28:17am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m starting to feel I’ve worn out my welcome here.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:29:31am

re: #358 lawhawk

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The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearer.
The “law and order” GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearer.
The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearerMessiah.

Trump is going to lead the GOP to a massive defeat in 2024, and they deserve every bit of it, because the Right was cultivating this electorate seething with culture war grievances long before Trump appeared on the scene. It was the only way they could motivate voters to support redistribution of national wealth to a handful of billionaires funding the rightwing gravy train.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:37:11am

The terrorist is testifying to try to reduce his sentence by showing remorse.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:39:34am

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

And Floridian parents are okay with this drivel? What the actual hell? Columbus was a genocidal maniac. And Black people don’t care about White guilt. We want equality and justice.

Coming soon to a university near you: affirmative action for Florida high schoolers…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:39:41am

re: #366 No Malarkey!

He says he and others shouldn’t be solely judged for the worst mistakes of their lives

This was a highly premeditated mistake, one which they would be gloating about and reliving at every opportunity if they had somehow been allowed to get away with it.

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dat_said  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:41:09am

Backers of North Dakota congressional age limits get year to gather ballot signatures

The amendment would bar anyone over the age of 80 from representing the state in Congress. Likely unconstitional, but whatevs.

From pewresearch.org (at start of this year, 11 overall in the House and 4 overall in the Senate were 80 or older).

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:46:02am

re: #369 dat_said

Backers of North Dakota congressional age limits get year to gather ballot signatures

The amendment would bar anyone over the age of 80 from representing the state in Congress. Likely unconstitional, but whatevs.

From pewresearch.org (at start of this year, 11 overall in the House and 4 overall in the Senate were 80 or older).

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We need a fair means of differentiating between 80+ year olds. Sometimes, they’re at the top of their game.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:48:42am

re: #370 wrenchwench

We need a fair means of differentiating between 80+ year olds. Sometimes, they’re at the top of their game.

An annual dementia test would just weed out the people who can’t think clearly anymore.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:49:13am

Sparta was the antebellum South of the Mediterranean.

No matter how you tune up it’s history, it’s existence was constantly bent by the concern for slave rebellion, resulting in a stagnating society in which even the “citizen” class was brutalized in order to make them effective overseers. They weren’t Greek patriots…nationalism didn’t meaningfully exist…they were reactionaries bending to whatever political wind protected what they held: repulse the Persians, take Persian backing…the underlying principle was simply “prop up the existing hierarchy”

But that’s the appeal to American reactionaries, who are, again, self-reporting. They don’t just want a society of endless non-citizens, tiered in how they can be abused, but a “citizen” class that is also controlled, penned, and punished so that they can only fulfill a function as overseers.

And the military uplifting Spartans…well, let’s all take a hard look at how you convince a near-child to die in a trench, because it’s a very simple, emotional formula that repeats over and over and there’s countless examples…but it’s specifically a product of the reconstruction of historical narratives to make Greeks the protagonists and (ironically) both the originators of nationalism and heroic individuals. To achieve this task you simply have to make all other societies in friction with the Greeks less people, such that things like Greek settler colonialism, or Greek imperialism, or Greek mercenary labor, are rinsed away by a dichotomy of “civilized West” versus “decadent East” such that conflict is inevitable and victory is assured…both lies that are very convenient if you’re trying to maintain an empire through conquest and terror. You want your soldiers to believe in an abstraction stronger than what is visibly true, that the “other” are just fucking people…that facade has to exist until the first truly bloody exchange, at which point you can point young men towards more base motives like revenge and the collective guilt of the brutish other.

Like, that’s a great historical debunking, but it misses the point that there are active liars setting the parameters of the discussion of history.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:51:25am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:54:18am

re: #358 lawhawk

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The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearer.
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The law and order GOP are going to anoint a convicted criminal as their standard bearerMessiah.

it’ll be 100+ counts of felony indictments.
focusing on crimes against the country - 1/6 and the documents.

why do you think no other ex-prez has been investigated and charged like this?
witch hunt, you say?
why do you think no other Republican ex-prez has been investigated and charged like this?

because none of them ever did anything like this

just a normal day at work for the Rs.

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Thanos  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:54:55am

re: #20 Vicious Babushka

CL’ed
Health update:

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:56:53am

re: #363 Nerdy Fish

Part of the problem, too, is that with Trump in the race, the non-Trumpers have to find a way to attack Trump without attacking Trump. If he wasn’t in the race at all, it’s very possible that DeathSentence would be the runaway favorite for the nomination, depending on how the MAGAt base perceive him as far as toadying up to their mango messiah.

that’s probably true
and at the same time he would not have the same 40+% support tfg would have had.
a fair part of tfg’s base would def sit out.

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A Cranky One  Jul 28, 2023 • 8:58:53am

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:01:20am

Like, the magic trick is so effective that somehow people read Thucydides, who lays out the politicking and demagogy and deal-cutting very clearly, and somehow come away having not absorbed anything that he described.

“The Greeks repelled the Persians” is a more emotionally fulfilling story than “all these fucking cities were out there hustling because Greece is kind of land-poor.”

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Thanos  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:10:00am

#firstworldproblems
This morning’s lawn mowing adventure is complete
I crossed a paver with the sidewall against it
which caused the tire from rim to unseat.
Thank goodness for my car jack
thanks goodness for my bicycle pump
I fixed that flat and said “That’s that!”
and beat the day’s main heat.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:14:33am

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:15:17am
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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:17:45am

So went out to visit a few usual suspects, the grey skies didn’t give me much. On the way home I swung past Burger King and I tried the Impossible Whopper today. Tastes fine but it’s a calorie bomb just like a meat hamburger and is way too big. Pity they don’t make a Whopper Jr sized one too.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:17:48am

re: #372 The Ghost of a Flea

Sparta was the antebellum South of the Mediterranean.

Yep. If anybody wants a deep dive into the absolute horror show that was Sparta I recommend starting with Part 1 of Bret Devereaux’s “This. Isn’t. Sparta.”

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:22:27am

Cory Doctorow’s linkblog boosted

Andiias
@andiias@mstdn.social

@mvario

“Once you start unpacking Tesla’s balance sheets, you start to realize how much the company depends on government subsidies and tax-breaks, combined with selling carbon credits …”

Spot on. He’s mainly making money exploiting various tax arrangements rather than making things.

@pluralistic

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:22:40am

“These people are admitting they lied to you”: Trump’s own men undermine his “delusional” defense

salon.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:23:33am

re: #378 The Ghost of a Flea

Like, the magic trick is so effective that somehow people read Thucydides, who lays out the politicking and demagogy and deal-cutting very clearly, and somehow come away having not absorbed anything that he described.

“The Greeks repelled the Persians” is a more emotionally fulfilling story than “all these fucking cities were out there hustling because Greece is kind of land-poor.”

Thucydides doesn’t write about the Persian wars, he’s talking about the Athenian League vs. Sparta and its allies.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:28:38am

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:30:38am

re: #386 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Thucydides doesn’t write about the Persian wars, he’s talking about the Athenian League vs. Sparta and its allies.

Yeah, the two paragraphs are doing two different things.

First: people read Thucydides and don’t get it because they’re used to a narrative framework in which Greece is the protagonist.

Second: that narrative framework is the black-and-white image of Greece versus Persia, which is much more appetizing and thus what prevails.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:32:32am

Greece is sold to us as an ideal of proto-democracy when it fact it was an aristocratic slave state

Sparta is sold to us as the ideal of the military city-state when it fact it was a military dictatorship and theocracy

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Captain Ron  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:36:08am

Swifties caused seismic activity equivalent of a 2.3 magnitude earthquake, according to seismologist Jackie Caplan-Auerbach. The “Swift Quake” has been compared to the 2011 “Beast Quake,” when Seattle Seahawks fans erupted after an impressive …

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:36:54am

So Taylor Swift is playing her role in ushering in Armageddon?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:39:01am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:40:11am

re: #388 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, the two paragraphs are doing two different things.

First: people read Thucydides and don’t get it because they’re used to a narrative framework in which Greece is the protagonist.

Second: that narrative framework is the black-and-white image of Greece versus Persia, which is much more appetizing and thus what prevails.

Doesn’t match my learning experience, but I was further into it than most. (By the way, who are all the Thucydides readers you mention — I’m the only one I know.)

And I have to run now, I’ll check back later.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:41:29am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Greece is sold to us as an ideal of proto-democracy when it fact it was a slave state

Sparta is sold to us as the ideal of the military city-state when it fact it was a military dictatorship and theocracy

Ancient Greek weirdos: pederasty is awesome and society should bend around the premise of creepy men having access to and power over boys.

Enlightened men of the Renaissance and all eras thereafter: these people are geniuses that created civilization.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:42:00am

Secret Service and D.C. police prepare for potential Trump indictment

Officials from the Secret Service and the Washington Metropolitan Police Department met today to discuss the potential for violence from protesters if Trump is indicted.

An official said both the Secret Service and Washington police believe Trump may be indicted soon in connection with his involvement in Jan. 6 and interference in the 2020 election, but neither law enforcement organization has been given an exact date.

The two law enforcement agencies are coordinating in case Trump needs to travel to Washington for an arraignment. As of now, no rhetoric online has alarmed law enforcement, but they continue to monitor for violence among those who would protest a possible indictment.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:43:04am

re: #393 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

I wasn’t implying that Thucydides wrote about the Persian Wars, but the modern narrative of the Persian Wars effects the way that people don’t understand the politics within Thucydides.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:48:49am

HANNITY: Do you believe the end goal is to prevent Donald Trump from running for president in 2024?

GRAHAM: Absolutely. What other conclusion could you reach?

they both know this is nonsense.

the only way he could be prevented now (ianal) is proving he violated the 14th amendment. and there’s not enough time to do that.

20 indictments, hundreds of charges couldnt stop him from running.
what they can do is stop him from running effectively, efficiently, freely.
but they cant stop him.

you know who could stop him?
a republican party with a backbone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:49:59am

Imagine what the world would think of us if we elected a convicted felon as our President.

I cannot even.

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:52:04am

re: #398 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine what the world would think of us if we elected a convicted felon as our President.

I cannot even.

Headlines for the following four years would be about “America, the third-world country that elected a convicted felon as its President.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2023 • 9:59:00am
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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:03:04am

Sinead O’Connor - “Trouble of the World”

All of Sinead O’Connor’s profits from the single ‘Trouble of The World’ are going to Black Lives Matter

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:03:14am

bsky.app from pwnallthethings

Wow

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:14:27am

He was an AG

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:15:36am

re: #403 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Ah

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Nerdy Fish  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:18:54am

re: #404 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Ah

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Depends on the Supreme Court justice. If they clerked for Alito, they really could be that stupid.///

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:22:51am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:40:04am

re: #345 wrenchwench

Par
Wordle 769 4/6

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⬛⬛🟨🟨🟨
🟨🟩🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2023 • 10:40:24am

re: #393 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Doesn’t match my learning experience, but I was further into it than most. (By the way, who are all the Thucydides readers you mention — I’m the only one I know.)

And I have to run now, I’ll check back later.

I have read an edited and abridged version of Thucydides—I loved it. I need to find it and read again. In preparing to teach long ago a World History course that was thrust upon me, I also read secondary literature from George Martin Lane and Victor Davis Hanson (you can see how VDH, respected as he was as a historian, could fall into the trap of supporting American authoritarians).

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:20:12pm

re: #366 No Malarkey!

The terrorist is testifying to try to reduce his sentence by showing remorse.

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Yeah, we’ve seen how that works out once they get released. Fuck them and their remorse.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:25:28pm

re: #377 A Cranky One

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:27:40pm

re: #382 William Lewis

So went out to visit a few usual suspects, the grey skies didn’t give me much. On the way home I swung past Burger King and I tried the Impossible Whopper today. Tastes fine but it’s a calorie bomb just like a meat hamburger and is way too big. Pity they don’t make a Whopper Jr sized one too.

Our youngest kid tried one. He said it was ok but he wouldn’t order another again.

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EPR-radar  Jul 28, 2023 • 12:39:06pm

re: #341 Joe Bacon ✅

Krazy Kari is deluded thinking Trump knows how to play chess.

That idiot has no clue about how to play a Ruy Lopez, Sicilian, Queen Gambit or Nimzo-Indian defense.

That’s much too advanced. First one would have to tell Trump that eating an opponent’s piece if it is annoying is not a chess move.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 28, 2023 • 5:03:47pm

re: #408 Barefoot Grin

I have read an edited and abridged version of Thucydides—I loved it. I need to find it and read again. In preparing to teach long ago a World History course that was thrust upon me, I also read secondary literature from George Martin Lane and Victor Davis Hanson (you can see how VDH, respected as he was as a historian, could fall into the trap of supporting American authoritarians).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jul 29, 2023 • 7:19:57am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Bethany Mandel says “We need to start befriendingheading neo-Nazis”

Maybe Bethany is just the victim of a typo. (What, too harsh?)

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