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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:35:31am

Stewpid Peters Urges Americans to Start Exploring ‘Extra-Legal Options’ for Removing ‘Enemy Combatants’ From Office

On Wednesday, far-right Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers appeared on Peters’ program, where she discussed her good friend Kari Lake’s never-ending effort to overturn her loss in the 2022 gubernatorial election to current Gov. Katie Hobbs.

When Peters declared that he hopes that Lake will prevail and then have Hobbs arrested, Rogers eagerly agreed.

“If she is installed as the legitimate governor, what about Hobbs?” Peters wondered. “Will she be arrested? Will all of the people who committed these crimes actually be held criminally accountable? This is what we need.”

“I want to see that,” Rogers replied. “I want to see that.”

Peters, though, does not have much faith in our political and judicial system, prompting him to declare that Americans should now be exploring “extra-legal options.”

“Speaking of enemy combatants, that’s what these people are,” Peters said. “They have taken over a country. They have affected a Marxist coup d’état. These are the real insurrectionists who have committed sedition.”

“The judiciary has failed us. The legal process has failed us. The voting process has failed us,” Peters continued. “So, I think that right now what Americans need to be exploring is our extra-legal options.”

The term “extra-legal” as Peters used it means “illegal,” of course, and potentially violently so.

“God bless America,” Rogers then responded as Peters ended the segment by expressing his love and appreciation for her.

rightwingwatch.org

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Jay C  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:37:25am

So at a quick calculation, 28 weeks til trial? And Trump’s lawyers don’t think that’s enough time to prepare a credible defense?

I mean, it’s Trump, so the term “credible” is very much a non sequitur, but seems like enough time IMO…..

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:38:50am

Eastman’s defense is shattered in state bar proceeding
Jen Rubin
wapo.st (gift link)

John Eastman, the lawyer allegedly at the center of the unprecedented and outrageous scheme to overthrow the 2020 election, faces criminal prosecution in Georgia and has been identified as an unindicted co-conspirator in special counsel Jack Smith’s federal case. And Eastman must defend a bar complaint in California that threatens to revoke his law license.
At a critical hearing last week in the California bar proceedings, designated legal expert Matthew A. Seligman submitted a 91-page report, which I have obtained from the state bar, that strips away any “colorable,” or legally plausible, defense that Eastman was acting in good faith in rendering advice to the now four-times-indicted former president Donald Trump.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:40:19am

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

“The judiciary has failed us. The legal process has failed us. The voting process has failed us,” Peters continued. “So, I think that right now what Americans need to be exploring is our extra-legal options.”

rightwingwatch.org

“Failed us” translated: they wont let us win

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IngisKahn  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:40:33am

Ug, 115 degrees today and tomorrow. And still no real rain yet since winter.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:41:00am

Britt Nessie
@DemocraticDaisy
nicknames for Trump in Scotland

1. “Onion-eyed flap dragon.”
2. “Leather-faced piss jar.”
3. “Mangled apricot hellbeast.”
4. “Bawbag-eyed fuck bumper.”
5. “Toupéd fucktrumpet.”
6. “Knuckle-brained fart lozenge.”
7. “Degenerate corned beef face syrup wearing wankstain.”
8. “Rug wearing thunder nugget.”
9. “Cock juggling thundercunt.”
10. “Gerbil-headed, woodstained, haunted spunktrumpet.”

They are just better at that than we are!

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:42:56am

re: #6 retired cynic

I like them. Thanks Scotland.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:43:06am

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

The grift never ends. Kari Lake and her associates are living off the contributions of the MAGA dead-enders.

Money has continued to pour in for Lake since her loss. Her campaign raised $2.6 million from Election Day through the end of the year, with the biggest haul coming on the day the race was called for Hobbs.

She’s raised more money through a nonprofit group her advisers created in December, which doesn’t have to disclose details about its donations and has become her main fundraising vehicle.
krdo.com

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:43:15am

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

Stewpid Peters Urges Americans to Start Exploring ‘Extra-Legal Options’ for Removing ‘Enemy Combatants’ From Office

On Wednesday, far-right Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers appeared on Peters’ program, where she discussed her good friend Kari Lake’s never-ending effort to overturn her loss in the 2022 gubernatorial election to current Gov. Katie Hobbs.

When Peters declared that he hopes that Lake will prevail and then have Hobbs arrested, Rogers eagerly agreed.

“If she is installed as the legitimate governor, what about Hobbs?” Peters wondered. “Will she be arrested? Will all of the people who committed these crimes actually be held criminally accountable? This is what we need.”

“I want to see that,” Rogers replied. “I want to see that.”

Peters, though, does not have much faith in our political and judicial system, prompting him to declare that Americans should now be exploring “extra-legal options.”

“Speaking of enemy combatants, that’s what these people are,” Peters said. “They have taken over a country. They have affected a Marxist coup d’état. These are the real insurrectionists who have committed sedition.”

“The judiciary has failed us. The legal process has failed us. The voting process has failed us,” Peters continued. “So, I think that right now what Americans need to be exploring is our extra-legal options.”

The term “extra-legal” as Peters used it means “illegal,” of course, and potentially violently so.

“God bless America,” Rogers then responded as Peters ended the segment by expressing his love and appreciation for her.

rightwingwatch.org

Stew is one of the dumbest wingnuts. I won’t be surprised if he gets himself locked up because he doesn’t know how to go right up to the line and no further like more capable propagandists do.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:43:56am

re: #7 PhillyPretzel ✅

I like them. Thanks Scotland.

It’s in honor of not allowing him to go to the PGA senior golf event at his (one of his?) clubs in Scotland.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:44:25am

re: #8 jaunte

The grift never ends. Kari Lake and her associates are living off the contributions of the MAGA dead-enders.

I should grift fascists instead of going to work every weekday. I see no ethical reason not to do so.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:45:48am

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

“You’re on!”

I don’t think people realize that everyone hears stochastic callouts.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:47:30am

re: #284 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

My first Harley had a kicker and an electric start
If folks were far enough away i could make it look like i was kicking as i confidently pressed the start button

You did a Bronson.

As you well know the kick start sportsters with the OEM magnetos didn’t (ever) start on the first or second kick. The die-hards upgraded to Joe Hunt magnetos and Mukuni carburetors. In the TV series, Bronson kicked and pushed the electric start button at the same time.

en.wikipedia.org

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:50:42am

re: #2 Jay C

So at a quick calculation, 28 weeks til trial? And Trump’s lawyers don’t think that’s enough time to prepare a credible defense?

I mean, it’s Trump, so the term “credible” is very much a non sequitur, but seems like enough time IMO…..

They don’t need to prove his innocence…they just need to raise a ‘reasonable doubt’ that he’s not a grifting criminal piece of shit. Why is that so difficult for them?

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:55:53am

re: #14 darthstar

They’re so desperate to taint the jury pool because they know he’s guilty as fuck and their last best hope is to have a lone juror engage in nullification.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:56:54am

Mastodon

“We’ve got to find 11,780 votes” to find a settlement for a pending lawsuit.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:57:02am

re: #8 jaunte

The grift never ends. Kari Lake and her associates are living off the contributions of the MAGA dead-enders.

She’s raised more money through a nonprofit group her advisers created in December, which doesn’t have to disclose details about its donations and has become her main fundraising vehicle. source of income

their goal is to not hold jobs

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 10:57:59am

re: #14 darthstar

They don’t need to prove his innocence…they just need to raise a ‘reasonable doubt’ that he’s not a grifting criminal piece of shit. Why is that so difficult for them?

It’s their time to strut and fret on the national stage.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:00:47am

A coda to one of the more infamous previously unsolved mysteries in Massachusetts:

Found deceased in Provincetown, Massachusetts on July 26, 1974, the Lady of the Dunes was the longest-unidentified murder victim in the state of Massachusetts until being identified through investigative genealogy as Ruth Marie Terry in October of 2022.

Having been unidentified for several decades, there were, of course many theories about her identity and demise. The most well-known theory proposed that she was in fact an extra in the movie Jaws.

Investigators have determined that she was killed by her husband, Guy Muldavin. Muldavin died in 2002 and is also considered a suspect in multiple other deaths, including those of a previous wife and step-daughter.

Muldavin and Terry had married in 1973 or 1974, and after going on their honeymoon together, Muldavin returned alone, driving Terry’s car. Muldavin had claimed separately that he and Terry had argued during their honeymoon and that he hadn’t heard from her since, and also that she had died.

nbcboston.com

cbsnews.com

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:01:12am
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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:01:43am

I’m probably late to the party on this, but I’m seeing all kinds of climate wingnuttery on the dead bird app claiming the Maui wildfires.were deliberately set.

ARSON IS NOT.CLIMATE CHANGE!.

Anastasia Marie Loupis has been ringing that bell today

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:02:39am

re: #20 lawhawk

404(b) hearing refers to Georgia Code - 24-4-404

(b) Evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts shall not be admissible to prove the character of a person in order to show action in conformity therewith.  It may, however, be admissible for other purposes, including, but not limited to, proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, or absence of mistake or accident.  The prosecution in a criminal proceeding shall provide reasonable notice to the defense in advance of trial, unless pretrial notice is excused by the court upon good cause shown, of the general nature of any such evidence it intends to introduce at trial.  Notice shall not be required when the evidence of prior crimes, wrongs, or acts is offered to prove the circumstances immediately surrounding the charged crime, motive, or prior difficulties between the accused and the alleged victim.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:06:43am

re: #22 lawhawk

In other words, the evidence used to prove the ongoing enterprise as part of the Georgia RICO charge.

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dat_said  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:07:25am

re: #6 retired cynic

Britt Nessie
@DemocraticDaisy
nicknames for Trump in Scotland

1. “Onion-eyed flap dragon.”
2. “Leather-faced piss jar.”
3. “Mangled apricot hellbeast.”
4. “Bawbag-eyed fuck bumper.”
5. “Toupéd fucktrumpet.”
6. “Knuckle-brained fart lozenge.”
7. “Degenerate corned beef face syrup wearing wankstain.”
8. “Rug wearing thunder nugget.”
9. “Cock juggling thundercunt.”
10. “Gerbil-headed, woodstained, haunted spunktrumpet.”

They are just better at that than we are!

I think you can buy the two I highlighted deep-fried and on a stick at the Minnesota State Fair.

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:07:31am

re: #23 Nerdy Fish

In other words, the evidence used to prove the ongoing enterprise as part of the Georgia RICO charge.

It’s a preview of the case in chief by prosecutors, so yeah - RICO gets a workout.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:19:54am

re: #6 retired cynic

Britt Nessie
@DemocraticDaisy
nicknames for Trump in Scotland

1. “Onion-eyed flap dragon.”
2. “Leather-faced piss jar.”
3. “Mangled apricot hellbeast.”
4. “Bawbag-eyed fuck bumper.”
5. “Toupéd fucktrumpet.”
6. “Knuckle-brained fart lozenge.”
7. “Degenerate corned beef face syrup wearing wankstain.”
8. “Rug wearing thunder nugget.”
9. “Cock juggling thundercunt.”
10. “Gerbil-headed, woodstained, haunted spunktrumpet.”

They are just better at that than we are!

oh, Scotland! I’m so glad we’re besties. have a wee pint on me.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:26:15am
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:26:20am

Brooke Binkowski @brooklynmarie.bsky.social

I wrote an article about the right wing’s astroturfed, modular, inauthentic outrage and how easy it is to spot and defeat once you know what you’re looking for.

truthorfiction.com

“…Multiple groups with their own political agendas are coordinating these campaigns for their own purposes. The far-right Heritage Foundation — which has pushed the anti-critical race theory disinformation campaign from its inauthentic beginning — has a website promoting “Heritage Action for America,” a rotating stable of campaigns that anyone can use for astroturfing, if they’re so inclined.”
…….
“…This can be done for any topic, effectively offering the illusion of popularity for policies or ideas that do not exist in reality, but this construct is augmented by real-world events staged by people who in actuality have little loyalty to the ideas they pretend to espouse, leading to messaging that is, to say the least, muddled and confusing (Heritage Action and its dozens of affiliated groups also offer similar toolkits for coronavirus legislation, the Equality Act, immigration, and many others, complete with scripts for phone calls and social media posts.)”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:30:06am

DAMNIT…AGAIN…

Live updates: Shots fired on campus at UNC; no one in custody

A source told WRAL News that someone was armed while inside a UNC-Chapel Hill campus building. Shots were fired, according to a source. No one has been placed into custody.

Sick of this shit.

live updates at wral.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:32:28am

re: #29 Joe Bacon ✅

I am sick of it too. :(

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:38:05am

re: #29 Joe Bacon ✅

DAMNIT…AGAIN…

Live updates: Shots fired on campus at UNC; no one in custody

A source told WRAL News that someone was armed while inside a UNC-Chapel Hill campus building. Shots were fired, according to a source. No one has been placed into custody.

Sick of this shit.

live updates at wral.com

Doing visualizations of response to a shooter on campus has become a regular (involuntary) activity of mine.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:46:15am

.  .  . After decades of building fewer and fewer increasingly expensive combat aircraft — the F-35 fighter jet costs $80 million per unit — the Air Force now has the smallest and oldest fleet in its history.

That is where the new generation of A.I. drones, known as collaborative combat aircraft, will come in. The Air Force is planning to build 1,000 to 2,000 of them for as little as $3 million apiece, or a fraction of the cost of an advanced fighter, which is why some at the Air Force call the program “affordable mass.”

There will be a range of specialized types of these robot aircraft. Some will focus on surveillance or resupply missions, others will fly in attack swarms and still others will serve as a “loyal wingman” to a human pilot.

The drones, for example, could fly in front of piloted combat aircraft, doing early, high-risk surveillance. They could also play a major role in disabling enemy air defenses, taking risks to knock out land-based missile targets that would be considered too dangerous for a human-piloted plane.

(no paywall)

nytimes.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:54:48am

Only 12 more birbies to equal the fours.

Wordle 800 3/6*

⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟨🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:56:43am

Marc Elias @marcelias.bsky.social

As we wait for the North Carolina GOP legislature’s effort to override his veto, it is worth reading Gov. Roy Cooper’s statement on the GOP’s latest voter suppression bill.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:59:29am
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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 11:59:53am
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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:01:28pm

As Predicted: Judge Laughs GOP’s Laughable ‘Google Spam Bias’ Lawsuit Right Out Of Court

The background: in the runup to the 2022 U.S. elections, a prominent Republican “digital marketing” (read: political spam) shop noticed that its marketing campaigns weren’t doing very well. Rather than realizing that (1) the candidates and messages they were pitching were not what people wanted and (2) they were way too aggressive in spamming nonsense to people, the political consultants who ran the place decided to… blame Google.
techdirt.com

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:03:43pm

Mindy makes a short chirp sound that’s the equivalent of the Jaffa word “kree” when she wants attention.

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dat_said  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:05:36pm

This oughta get some US Catholic knickers in a bunch:

Pope says conservative U.S. Catholics have replaced faith with ideology

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church, saying that they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Roman Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

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Mattand  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:07:18pm

We’re going to the Outer Banks next week. It’s shit like the lax gun laws that enable a campus shooter and a GOP legislature actively suppressing votes that makes me not want to visit GOP-run states.

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retired cynic  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:07:30pm

re: #39 dat_said

Good for Frank!

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:09:22pm

re: #39 dat_said

This oughta get some US Catholic knickers in a bunch:

Pope says conservative U.S. Catholics have replaced faith with ideology

Saying it does little. He should excommunicate them for heresy.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:10:03pm

re: #9 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Stew is one of the dumbest wingnuts. I won’t be surprised if he gets himself locked up because he doesn’t know how to go right up to the line and no further like more capable propagandists do.

I have literally turned him in on the FBI website….. The guy openly calls for murdering Americans he doesn’t agree with.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:11:23pm

re: #43 Dave In Austin

I have literally turned him in on the FBI website….. The guy openly calls for murdering Americans he doesn’t agree with.

He seems like a blowhard that would shit his pants if the FBI showed up. They must not be showing up.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:12:03pm

re: #39 dat_said

Company men, protecting the company.

In 2002, when the bishops passed the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People, zero tolerance for offenders — now universally supported — was seen as a “progressive” stance, in part because it was proposed by then-Bishop Wilton Gregory, who is perceived as progressive, Reese recalled.

Fast-forward a year from the pro-life committee chair vote, to the November 2018 meeting, when the U.S. bishops were discussing possible ways to close the loophole that excluded bishops from the charter’s rules about clerical sex abuse. (The Vatican prevented them from actually voting on the proposals.)
ncronline.org

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:12:51pm

re: #42 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Saying it does little. He should excommunicate them for heresy.

Defrocking is good enough. When the congregation complains, let ‘em know they’re free to join the Baptists.

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Mattand  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:13:34pm

Speaking of dumb wingntus:

Following up on Mark Meadows’s testimony mentioned in the last thread. If I’m understanding correctly, he basically took the stand to say that his case should be moved to federal court, because as a federal employee, he was just following Trump’s orders on Jan 6?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:15:10pm

re: #47 Mattand

Speaking of dumb wingntus:

Following up on Mark Meadows’s testimony mentioned the last thread. If I’m understanding correctly, he basically took the stand to say that his case should be moved to federal court, because as a federal employee, I was just following Trump’s orders on Jan 6?

Authoritarians may not be able to understand that just following orders can get you locked up if the person giving the orders is a criminal.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:17:38pm

Alexa tells me a 2.5 gram ethernet adapter has arrived. She doesn’t know that “g” is not always grams.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:28:01pm

The Asshole Is Farting Again.

Trump rages on social media at Judge Chutkan — and demands Jan. 6 committee be criminally charged

rawstory.com

Trump’s lawyers had sought an April 2026 start for the election conspiracy case, while special counsel Jack Smith requested a Jan. 2, 2024 start date.

“Today a biased, Trump Hating Judge gave me only a two month extension, just what our corrupt government wanted, SUPER TUESDAY. I will APPEAL!,” the former president wrote on his Truth Social website.

Trump’s two-part post also took aim at Smith, President Joe Biden, and the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack and attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, and that investigated the former president’s role in the attack on the Capitol.

“Deranged Jack Smith & his team of Thugs, who were caught going to the White House just prior to Indicting the 45th President of the United States (an absolute No No!), have been working on this Witch Hunt for almost 3 years, but decided to bring it smack in the middle of Crooked Joe Biden’s Political Opponent’s campaign against him. Election Interference! Today a biased, Trump Hating Judge gave me only a two month extension, just what our corrupt government wanted, SUPER TUESDAY. I will APPEAL!” the former president wrote.

“Page 2: How do you have an Indictment that is based almost entirely on the findings of the January 6th Unselect Committee of Marxists, Fascists, and Political Hacks, when these same lowlifes, who have been caught lying for years about Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, FISA, the Fake Dossier, & much more, purposely & Illegally DESTROYED & DELETED all of the Evidence, Findings, & Proof of the January 6th Committee? When will Deranged Jack Smith Criminally Charge the Committee?”

OK is Chutkan gonna finally put the hammer down?

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:29:07pm

re: #50 Joe Bacon ✅

I will APPEAL!

How does that work?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:30:08pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

Must be nice to be White and be freely able to advocate for murder so openly. Zero consequences even as Black citizens are mowed down in stories.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:32:53pm

Barry Blitt

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dat_said  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:36:09pm

re: #50 Joe Bacon ✅

He seems, uh, nervous.

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:41:14pm

re: #50 Joe Bacon ✅

You can’t appeal from the trial date that’s set. Trump’s itching for sanctions.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:42:22pm

Trump may decide to act as his own defense attorney.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:43:57pm

“I move for a bad court thingy.”

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:44:14pm

re: #56 jaunte

Trump may decide to act as his own defense attorney.

Who else is as brilliant as he is, in his mind?
“Only I can represent myself!”

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:45:18pm

When defendants go on trial, it’s not done around their “work” schedules. It’s not done around their travel plans.

You’re going to show up, and it’s going to be done as per the court’s rules - and in the case of Chutkan’s court - as per the Speedy Trial rules.

It was clear Trump had no interest in even coming up with a reasonable timeframe for trial, and the lies just encouraged Chutkan to come down hard on him by only giving him 2 months over what Smith’s prosecutorial team requested. That’s a smack down.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:46:06pm

re: #58 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Who else is as brilliant as he is, in his mind?
“Only I can represent myself!”

I don’t think he’s that deluded. If there’s one thing that’s sunk into that incredibly thick skull of his, it’s that bad lawyers = bad day.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:46:39pm

re: #55 lawhawk

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You can’t appeal from the trial date that’s set. Trump’s itching for sanctions.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:47:00pm

re: #59 lawhawk

When defendants go on trial, it’s not done around their “work” schedules. It’s not done around their travel plans.

You’re going to show up, and it’s going to be done as per the court’s rules - and in the case of Chutkan’s court - as per the Speedy Trial rules.

It was clear Trump had no interest in even coming up with a reasonable timeframe for trial, and the lies just encouraged Chutkan to come down hard on him by only giving him 2 months over what Smith’s prosecutorial team requested. That’s a smack down.

Ken White commented on Bluesky that, while the trial date will probably slip a bit from Chutkan’s current timeline, it probably won’t be much, based on her attitude in this hearing. This is one woman with whom one does not fuck.

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Semper Fi  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:48:00pm

re: #56 jaunte

Trump may decide to act as his own defense attorney.

Everything he does has excuses. Who best to describe them but the lier himself.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:48:58pm

Oh I would love to see Judge Chutkan drag his ass into court and read the riot act to him. He can’t handle being talked down to by a black woman. He will flip out.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:49:12pm

re: #63 Semper Fi

This taking of the reins by the Great Man should be encouraged.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:50:28pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon ✅

I would like to see that too.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:51:30pm

re: #56 jaunte

Trump may decide to act as his own defense attorney.

I support this.

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:51:50pm

Meanwhile, AP/NORC issued a poll and right wingers are pointing to the word cloud around Biden as being not good (pages 14-15 of the PDF).

Ummm… when you’ve got right wing media outlets, and other media outlets spewing GOP propaganda about Biden, it’s going to permeate.

Meanwhile, Trump’s word cloud is awful.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:52:43pm

Florida, always finding new ways to turn a potential disaster into a fucking mess of a disaster.

Mastodon

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:54:01pm

Chump’s Legal Beagles: ‘We need a lot more time because baaaaawwwwlll’
Judge Chutkin: ‘Fuck your feelings’

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:56:00pm

Trump’s been going about this all wrong. Instead of trying to move multiple criminal trials until after the election, he should simply demand that the election be moved up to before his criminal trials.
//

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lawhawk  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:56:45pm

re: #70 BigPapa

Chump’s Legal Beagles: ‘We need a lot more time because baaaaawwwwlll’
Judge Chutkin: ‘Fuck your feelings’

If you and your client have all this time to do pressers, go to golf tourneys, and do interviews, then you’ve got time to do discovery and document review. If you claim that this is just rehashed 1/6 Committee work, then you already have done most of that substantive review.

Yeah, the Judge isn’t going to take kindly to that, or being talked over.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:57:26pm

re: #69 darthstar

Florida, always finding new ways to turn a potential disaster into a fucking mess of a disaster.

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‘Contamination’ is a stretch, it was a swap. They put diesel where the gas goes.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:57:52pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

Stewpid Peters Urges Americans to Start Exploring ‘Extra-Legal Options’ for Removing ‘Enemy Combatants’ From Office

On Wednesday, far-right Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers appeared on Peters’ program, where she discussed her good friend Kari Lake’s never-ending effort to overturn her loss in the 2022 gubernatorial election to current Gov. Katie Hobbs.

When Peters declared that he hopes that Lake will prevail and then have Hobbs arrested, Rogers eagerly agreed.

“If she is installed as the legitimate governor, what about Hobbs?” Peters wondered. “Will she be arrested? Will all of the people who committed these crimes actually be held criminally accountable? This is what we need.”

“I want to see that,” Rogers replied. “I want to see that.”

Peters, though, does not have much faith in our political and judicial system, prompting him to declare that Americans should now be exploring “extra-legal options.”

“Speaking of enemy combatants, that’s what these people are,” Peters said. “They have taken over a country. They have affected a Marxist coup d’état. These are the real insurrectionists who have committed sedition.”

“The judiciary has failed us. The legal process has failed us. The voting process has failed us,” Peters continued. “So, I think that right now what Americans need to be exploring is our extra-legal options.”

The term “extra-legal” as Peters used it means “illegal,” of course, and potentially violently so.

“God bless America,” Rogers then responded as Peters ended the segment by expressing his love and appreciation for her.

rightwingwatch.org

Peters is a fascist terrorist explicitly calling for violence.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 12:58:13pm

re: #69 darthstar

Florida, always finding new ways to turn a potential disaster into a fucking mess of a disaster.

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Let me guess! Fox News is already blaming the fuel mess on Hunter Biden.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:01:14pm

Not gonna post a screenshot because you already know what he says, but Trump is ranting and spewing hate at Judge Chutkan, Jack Smith, and many others on his crappy website.

He’s going to keep doing this unless they put him in jail. Anyone else who did shit like this would already be in custody.

Trump constantly whines and cries that he’s a victim, but the truth is he’s getting unbelievably lenient treatment.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:01:17pm

re: #75 Joe Bacon ✅

Let me guess! Fox News is already blaming the fuel mess on Hunter Biden.

They did call it a ‘human error’. And I think they’ve gone so far as to admit Hunter IS human. Perhaps the only one they know of…

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:03:37pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

‘Contamination’ is a stretch, it was a swap. They put diesel where the gas goes.

Diesel in the gas isn’t the worst thing; modern computer-controlled cars will probably* burn it, with some amount of difficulty. Now if they put gas in the diesel, they’re gonna be ringing up thousands of dollars in car repair liability. Per incident.

* = depends on how contaminated the gas is; if it’s a significant enough percentage, it just won’t run, but won’t cause any physical damage. I think.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:04:26pm

re: #56 jaunte

Trump may decide to act as his own defense attorney.

Meanwhile Trump’s DC attorney’s are flipping a coin to determine which one has to talk to him next.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:05:30pm

re: #74 No Malarkey!

Peters is a fascist terrorist explicitly calling for violence.

The surprising thing to me with fascism taking hold here is that fascists are the most clueless dipshits you could ever meet. They’re dangerous, but are not serious people.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:08:40pm

Struggling a bit today with depression. I thought I’d cheer my self at little with some LGF pets and share the results.

Pets of LGF, part 3
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:10:03pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

Thanks. I need that too.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:11:07pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:12:30pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

Struggling a bit today with depression. I thought I’d cheer my self at little with some LGF pets and share the results.

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I find that cardio helps a lot.

Bottom left looks a lot like Mindy lying on one of the microfiber cloths I have all over my apartment, and almost fooled me.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:12:50pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

That makes me want to play Tic Tac Boop.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:15:37pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

Tina

Here’s another for your collection.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:15:43pm

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:16:58pm

A.K.A. Ceiling Cat

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:18:12pm
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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:21:54pm

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

How cringe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:22:21pm

re: #48 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Authoritarians may not be able to understand that just following orders can get you locked up if the person giving the orders is a criminal.

Undying obedience to their leader is a cardinal virtue

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:23:24pm

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Undying obedience to their leader is a cardinal virtue

It’s a lot easier than thinking is.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:24:17pm

Wilkes-Barre is full of Spotted Lantern Flies.

They’re pretty. Such a shame they are an invasive pest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:24:24pm

re: #69 darthstar

A “potentially widespread” fuel contamination at gas stations along Florida’s Gulf Coast could cause car engines and power generators to stop working just as Tropical Storm Idalia approaches the area.

The contamination was caused by “human error” at the Port of Tampa.

Florida machine, meet Florida man. Good luck.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:25:33pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

Here’s my dearly departed for next round.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:25:58pm
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nines09  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:27:10pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

Oh. Wow. What a shame.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:27:58pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

‘Contamination’ is a stretch, it was a swap. They put diesel where the gas goes.

Surprised one one noticed before.

Diesel doesn’t have the same viscosity, look or smell like gasoline.

Sounds like they inadvertently mixed up some old-time “distillate or tractor fuel”.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:29:11pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

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He wasn’t really a plumber, and became a metaphor for a lie-driven political party with no future.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:29:17pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:29:47pm

re: #98 BeenHereAwhile

Surprised one one noticed before.

Diesel doesn’t have the same viscosity, look or smell like gasoline.

Sounds like they inadvertently mixed up some old-time “distillate or tractor fuel”.

Don’t they color it for distinction?

Nobody looks at it.

Maybe they should flavor it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:29:59pm

re: #99 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

He wasn’t really a plumber, and became a metaphor for a lie-driven political party with no future.

“Obama hates the White Working Man!”

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:30:27pm

Mark Meadows admits ON THE STAND that he has done the exact same thing that the GOP is accusing Hunter Biden of doing.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:31:05pm

re: #100 Vicious Babushka

IANAL but what a dumbass.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:31:27pm

re: #88 jaunte

A.K.A. Ceiling Cat

You should have seen the squirrel that got away.

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nines09  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:32:11pm

re: #81 Teddy’s Person

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:32:34pm

re: #104 BigPapa

IANAL but what a dumbass.

I think he’s one of the few people who worked with Trump without saying that Trump’s a moron, so you know what level he’s at ethically or intellectually.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:34:50pm

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

Mark Meadows admits ON THE STAND that he has done the exact same thing that the GOP is accusing Hunter Biden of doing.

Meadows is looking for a cooperation offer from Fanni Willis. She has no need of him as a cooperating witness. But he will come in handy in the DC trial.

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nines09  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:36:29pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Diesel is basically #2 home heating oil. Home heating oil is dyed red to catch cheaters that buy the cheaper no road tax home heating oil.
DOT in every state periodically look for the dye by with testing strips
And if you can’t see or smell the difference between diesel and gasoline I don’t know what to say.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:36:47pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Don’t they color it for distinction?

Nobody looks at it.

Maybe they should flavor it.

I can see it now…Pumpkin Spice Flavored Diesel #1 Fuel…

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A Cranky One  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:38:49pm

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:40:05pm

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:42:08pm

re: #109 nines09

Diesel is basically #2 home heating oil. Home heating oil is dyed red to catch cheaters that buy the cheaper no road tax home heating oil.
DOT in every state periodically look for the dye by with testing strips
And if you can’t see or smell the difference between diesel and gasoline I don’t know what to say.

I get the impression that a ship pumped the wrong product into the wrong place at the port. They should have different fittings so that can’t happen.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:42:20pm

re: #112 Rightwingconspirator

Nice chain. ;)

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:43:12pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Don’t they color it for distinction?

Nobody looks at it.

Maybe they should flavor it.

Red diesel (no road taxes) usually indicates a higher sulfur content, and gets dyed further down the line for off road agricultural machinery and construction equipment.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:43:43pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

I hate to speak badly about the dead but Dude campaigned for political office on shooting migrants at the Mexican border.

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Semper Fi  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:44:19pm

re: #86 jaunte

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Here’s another for your collection.

Nice shot.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:46:43pm

re: #79 BeenHereAwhile

As long as they get paid, they should be good. Just don’t support his treasonous plans.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:49:37pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

I hate to speak badly about the dead but Dude campaigned for political office on shooting migrants at the Mexican border.

I’d forgotten that. It will have been while running for an unwinnable seat where pandering to the bloodlust of Republicans won’t win an election.

In 2012, he made a bid for a U.S. House seat in Ohio, but he lost in a landslide to Democrat Marcy Kaptur in a district heavily tilted toward Democrats.

I’d also forgotten that his name is Sam.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:50:03pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

I hate to speak badly about the dead but Dude campaigned for political office on shooting migrants at the Mexican border.

Maybe the migrants shot back.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:53:22pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

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Perfect example of somebody whose 15 minutes of fame were exhausted in a totally futile and ineffectual manner. Bub-bye, Joe, welcome to the No One Will Ever Remember What the Fuck They Ever Did Hall of Fame.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:54:13pm

re: #6 retired cynic

“Witless fucking cocksplat” is another good Scottish insult of Trump.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:54:43pm

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

Maybe the migrants shot back.

With pancreatic cancer.
Sam’s been suffering for a while.

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silverdolphin  Aug 28, 2023 • 1:59:26pm

‘Oh my God’: live worm found in Australian woman’s brain in world-first discovery

It is normally a parasite of pythons.She apparently was infected by touching grass that had paython shit on it. She was having all sorts of neurologucal problems over a 2 year period and may have other worm larva in her body.

The roundworm is found all over the world. And Florida is seeing an exploding population of pythons. I guess another reason to stay away.

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jaunte  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:02:10pm

re: #124 silverdolphin

If someone tells you to get off the internet and go touch grass, check the vicinity for pythons first.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:03:22pm

re: #124 silverdolphin

‘Oh my God’: live worm found in Australian woman’s brain in world-first discovery

It is normally a parasite of pythons.She apparently was infected by touching grass that had paython shit on it. She was having all sorts of neurologucal problems over a 2 year period and may have other worm larva in her body.

The roundworm is found all over the world. And Florida is seeing an exploding population of pythons. I guess another reason to stay away.

I used to be a Ball Python breeder years ago. I’ve never heard of this here. We just had to watch out for salmonella.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:07:21pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

‘Contamination’ is a stretch, it was a swap. They put diesel where the gas goes.

Now let me get this straight
You put the diesel in da gas tank, you pumped dem bod out.
You put the diesel in da gas tank, and your truck ran better?
You put the diesel in da gas tank, you pumped dem both out
You put the diesel in da gas tank, well, call me in the morning.

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silverdolphin  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:08:21pm

re: #126 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I used to be a Ball Python breeder years ago. I’ve never heard of this here. We just had to watch out for salmonella.

Snakes for home use are probably a lot ‘cleaber’ than in the wlld. Usually the life cycle of a lot of roundworms requires water. Apparently the Burmese python is already spreading a roundworm parassite that infects native reptiles. Nasty.

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BigPapa  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:09:49pm

re: #126 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I used to be a Ball Python breeder years ago. I’ve never heard of this here. We just had to watch out for salmonella.

I wanted to get a snek and was settled on a ball python. I could not find one in hot pink.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:12:13pm

re: #129 BigPapa

I wanted to get a snek and was settled on a ball python. I could not find one in hot pink.

Brightly colored snakes will bite you, injecting venom. There’s a tremendous amount of variety in Ball Pythons thanks to breeder efforts, but no bright colors.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:12:48pm

Carl Hiaasen’s novel “Squeeze Me” is about a Trump supporter who attends a MAGA event at a property near Mar-a-Lago (which Hiaasen calls “Casa Bellicosa”) and gets swallowed alive by a loose python.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:15:22pm

re: #88 jaunte

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Fuck that little hole! Am I right?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:17:35pm

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

Carl Hiaasen’s novel “Squeeze Me” is about a Trump supporter who attends a MAGA event at a property near Mar-a-Lago (which Hiaasen calls “Casa Bellicosa”) and gets swallowed alive by a loose python.

I assume that “loose” refers to the animal’s diet choice.
Lou, that’s a Trumper!
Don’t care. I’ll eat anything.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:20:24pm

re: #32 BeenHereAwhile

There goes those damn Democrats dismantling the military again.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:23:01pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon ✅

“Speaking of enemy combatants, that’s what these people are,” Peters said. “They have taken over a country. They have affected a Marxist coup d’état. These are the real insurrectionists who have committed sedition.”

“The judiciary has failed us. The legal process has failed us. The voting process has failed us,” Peters continued. “So, I think that right now what Americans need to be exploring is our extra-legal options.”

The term “extra-legal” as Peters used it means “illegal,” of course, and potentially violently so.

I sometimes get picked on for propheszing Doom and Gloom.

But look,, there is no way Trump will win the popular vote and little or no likelihood of him winning enough Electoral College votes to win.

The GOP will redouble its efforts to overturn the election results but will likely fail again.

There. Positive.

But cranks like Peters remind me that there will be violence and most likely bloodshed.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:23:26pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

I hate to speak badly about the dead but Dude campaigned for political office on shooting migrants at the Mexican border.

I have no problem with calling out the dead when they were awful people.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:24:40pm

re: #134 Ace Rothstein

There goes those damn Democrats dismantling the military again.
/

. . . “for as little as $3 million apiece. . .

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nines09  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:25:36pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

I have no problem with calling out the dead when they were awful people.

He showed no respect to anyone but the worst among us, and now there is one less like him.
Win win.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:27:23pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

I have no problem with calling out the dead when they were awful people.

What calling out the dead may look like.

Monty Python- ‘Bring out your Dead!’

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:29:32pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:31:41pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:32:11pm

Getting a new ribbon of felt laid down in front of our house.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:34:48pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

I have no problem with calling out the dead when they were awful people.

awful people…
we know what they did and thought while they were alive.
they’re not less awful now just because they’re dead.
no matter how they died.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:34:51pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Here’s one simple truth that refutes this wingnut’s nonsense — the GOP is, objectively, a fascist party. Meanwhile, there is no way in reality to consider the Democrats a communist party.

There are, of course, many other ways to refute this clown’s garbage.

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:35:44pm

re: #143 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

awful people…
we know what they did and thought while they were alive.
they’re not less awful now just because they’re dead.
no matter how they died.

Literally the kindest thing I can say about news of a dead Republican activist is “nothing of value was lost”.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:36:42pm

re: #143 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

awful people…
we know what they did and thought while they were alive.
they’re not less awful now just because they’re dead.
no matter how they died.

People like Joe the Plumber who mocked mass shooting victims saying that his second amendment right was more important than their lives…yeah, I’m okay with the fact that his death was painful and to him, probably very slow.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:37:58pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

Literally the kindest thing I can say about news of a dead Republican activist is “nothing of value was lost”.

An article said that he worked as a plumber after striking out in fascist politics. There’s one fewer person cleaning out pipes now.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:40:01pm

Got MSNBC on as background noise…but Ali Velshi just said something interesting that got me to look up. Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson - GOP candidates - have standing to ask a judge to remove Trump from the ballot via Amendment 14, Article 3.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:41:31pm

It just occurred to me that neither Trump nor any of the other defendants have denied doing what they’re accused of.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:42:22pm

Must be applying for a job with the Texas Rangers and wanted to prove his mettle to Governor Abbott.

Mastodon

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TedStriker  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:42:56pm

re: #148 darthstar

Got MSNBC on as background noise…but Ali Velshi just said something interesting that got me to look up. Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson - GOP candidates - have standing to ask a judge to remove Trump from the ballot via Amendment 14, Article 3.

Yeah, but will they? The moment they do, the GOP will immediately toss them out of the party, meaning they will no longer have standing, as I understand that line of reasoning.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:43:25pm

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

It just occurred to me that neither Trump nor any of the other defendants have denied doing what they’re accused of.

Nor have they denied that it’s criminal behavior. Their argument is that they are immune from prosecution because *reasons*…

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:44:05pm

Socialism paid for Joe the Plumber’s cancer treatments.

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darthstar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:44:46pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Yeah, but will they? The moment they do, the GOP will immediately toss them out of the party, meaning they will no longer have standing, as I understand that line of reasoning.

They can’t excommunicate someone from the party…this isn’t the church. If someone is a registered Republican and running as a Republican candidate they can not vote for them, but that is all. But this would also remove Trump from their list of problems, so it could be a win win.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:46:27pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

Literally the kindest thing I can say about news of a dead Republican activist is “nothing of value was lost”.

my most positive thought generally is they cant hurt anyone else

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:47:15pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Yeah, but will they? The moment they do, the GOP will immediately toss them out of the party, meaning they will no longer have standing, as I understand that line of reasoning.

If they don’t, that role falls to Joe Biden. Do they want it to happen after the primary, so their criminal nominee is disqualified? It’s better for them to disqualify Trump now and nominate someone whose crimes are not as well documented.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:48:33pm

re: #155 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

my most positive thought generally is they cant hurt anyone else

Probably the case for Sam. Trump will still be hurting people long after he’s dead thanks to the damage he did to everyone who likes him.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:48:38pm

re: #150 darthstar

Must be applying for a job with the Texas Rangers and wanted to prove his mettle to Governor Abbott.

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Keynote speaker at the GOP freak show next summer in Milwaukee.

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Captain Ron  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:49:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:50:51pm

re: #159 Captain Ron

Two beers A DAY, not a week you fucking imbecilic twat waffle.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:58:20pm

re: #160 Ace Rothstein

Two beers A DAY, not a week you fucking imbecilic twat waffle.

I think this very common need to escape our baseline state is telling us something terrible about how poorly we’ve adapted to our society.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:58:52pm

re: #159 Captain Ron

reminder to self do not click on any raw story links; too many pop-ups. the only decent thing is that most of the pop-ups were LLBean

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EPR-radar  Aug 28, 2023 • 2:59:09pm

re: #159 Captain Ron

I am waiting for the day that a (D) WH press secretary does the full Billy Madison bit in response to an inane ‘question’ from a right wing noise machine ‘reporter’.

And yes, those are sneer quotes.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:02:29pm

I just spoke with my brother about the family reunion he went to weekend before last. In Wisconsin. Got a new cousin out of the deal.

My dad had an older brother who didn’t have any kids. Or so we thought. Turns out he had one who was given up for adoption. My cousin Mary, whose mother was a nun. Mary came to the reunion.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:04:29pm
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sagehen  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:05:47pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

I just spoke with my brother about the family reunion he went to weekend before last. In Wisconsin. Got a new cousin out of the deal.

My dad had an older brother who didn’t have any kids. Or so we thought. Turns out he had one who was given up for adoption. My cousin Mary, whose mother was a nun. Mary came to the reunion.

um, excuse me. Did you just say your father’s brother got a nun pregnant!?!

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:06:09pm

I walked outside after work, and it DOESN’T feel like I’m in the engine room of an aircraft carrier. It’s only 93F.

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:06:54pm

re: #166 sagehen

um, excuse me. Did you just say your father’s brother got a nun pregnant!?!

Before I was born, and I just found out!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:07:59pm

re: #167 Belafon

I walked outside after work, and it DOESN’T feel like I’m in the engine room of an aircraft carrier. It’s only 93F.

This was how I felt at the end of the two weeks in Okinawa. I could actually walk to the convenience store half a block away without having to change my clothes upon return.

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austin_blue  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:08:39pm

re: #166 sagehen

um, excuse me. Did you just say your father’s brother got a nun pregnant!?!

It’s a natural mistake. He *thought* he was fucking a penguin.

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Belafon  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:08:44pm

A faculty member was killed, and the shooter is in custody at UNC.

cnn.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:08:57pm

re: #166 sagehen

um, excuse me. Did you just say your father’s brother got a nun pregnant!?!

And the nun had another child with a different man later. That’s all I know.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:11:07pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Yeah, but will they? The moment they do, the GOP will immediately toss them out of the party, meaning they will no longer have standing, as I understand that line of reasoning.

we’re facing something that no one ever thought necessary, so the system is mostly unprepared for it. it’s hard to deal with ‘what should be’ when ‘what is’ is smacking us around.

this manouver isn’t gonna save the republic.
and it won’t save the dems *politically*
a big win across the board will do that.
convictions in court will add to it.

still, legally/constitutionally it’s a thing to discuss, argue, debate.
and somewhat fascinating.
to clarify and get it right before the next time it’s needed.

it seems that disqualification is automatic - on doing the acts. the 14a doesnt address how this is determined.

so the argument seems to be that the act of insurrection makes the person disqualified and it doesn’t need to be adjudicated in a court.

a good additional argument is trump is giving aid and comfort to the insurrectionists. fundraising specifically on their behalf and promising pardons if elected.

the point is that he is disqualified by the 14A
even if he’s allowed to run and get elected.
he’s not eligible to serve.
what would john roberts do?
i think between election day and jan 20th it would be settled.

congress can ‘override’ this by a 2/3 vote.
if they choose not to, or the votes arent in your favor, then tough.
same as the 2 impeachments, just reversed.

who becomes president? the vp who ran with him?
or is the ticket invalid? i have no idea.

could ‘they’ do this to biden or whoever? sure, but how?
what is the act of disqualification? insurrection, rebellion, aid and comfort, etc.

alas. a third rate break-in, cover up and some tape recordings. oh wait, there was also a deaf senator (Stennis) and someone threw a briefcase full of damning evidence into the Potomac river.

still, watergate was simpler times.

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TedStriker  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:14:20pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

And the nun had another child with a different man later. That’s all I know.

Was this nun’s name… Sister Joan? Paul Gilmartin had something to say about her a long time ago…

Bob & Tom Sister Joan

///

Seriously, congrats on finding “new” family.

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austin_blue  Aug 28, 2023 • 3:15:12pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

And the nun had another child with a different man later. That’s all I know.

Again, a natural mistake. It was a Mexican yard boy named Jesus.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 28, 2023 • 9:27:46pm

re: #39 dat_said

This oughta get some US Catholic knickers in a bunch:

Pope says conservative U.S. Catholics have replaced faith with ideology

Terrible because it’s true.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 28, 2023 • 9:34:42pm

re: #49 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Alexa tells me a 2.5 gram ethernet adapter has arrived. She doesn’t know that “g” is not always grams.

But if you’re paying shipping by weight …


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