Rachael Price & yMusic With Stories: “These Days” (Jackson Browne, Chamber Ensemble Version)

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A stripped-down, orchestral cover of Jackson Browne’s “These Days” by stories, Rachael Price and yMusic.

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CREDITS
Vocals: Rachael Price
Guitar: Ryan Lerman
Flute: Alex Sopp
Clarinet: Hideaki Aomori
Trumpet: CJ Camerieri
Violin: Rob Moose
Viola: Nadia Sirota
Cello: Gabriel Cabezas

Director: Dom Fera
Audio & mixing engineer: Justin Glasco
Production: Philip Etherington
Assistant Engineer: Cory McCormick
DP: Ryan Blewett
Camera: Charlie Weinmann
Gaffer: Nash White
Editor: Adam Kritzberg
Socials: December Savage-Brown
Production Coordinator: Noa Danay

Produced By Ryan Lerman
Recorded at EastWest Studios in Los Angeles, CA

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235 comments
1
No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 10:56:59am

More GOP persecution theater.

2
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 10:57:14am

I had a lover/
it’s so hard to risk another these days

those were very mature lyrics for the teenager who wrote them

3
Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2023 • 10:58:22am

McConnell’s gonna go before Kissinger, isn’t he?

4
Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:00:50am

Mastodon

5
Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:02:32am

re: #1 No Malarkey!

More GOP persecution theater.

[Embedded content]

These creeps are the first to scream that there’s no such thing as systemic racism, then turn around and claim they’re victims of that thing they said doesn’t exist.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:02:49am

I do.

Mastodon

7
Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:03:16am

On Bluesky I found out someone put me on a list of “Nazis and Criminals” and also a list of “Centrists,” and all I can do is LOL.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:04:10am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

These creeps are the first to scream that there’s no such thing as systemic racism, then turn around and claim they’re victims of that thing they said doesn’t exist.

Schrödingers Victims

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:04:39am

Lisle is grifting. A private business wants $15.00 for a copy of the police report.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:05:00am

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

Zuck is the moderately lesser of two evils.

I won’t cheer for him if they fight.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:05:44am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I will cheer for them both if they fight in a deep sea submersible.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:06:59am

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

I do.

[Embedded content]

I’ll go ahead and root for the Jewish guy over the Nazi.

13
Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:09:45am

Mitch McConnell had another 30-second brain freeze. Get him out of Congress now.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:10:02am

re: #12 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I’ll go ahead and root for the Jewish guy over the Nazi.

We once rooted for the communist over the original Nazi for a little while. We can always prioritize.

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2024 Blue Wisconsin  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:11:54am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

On Bluesky I found out someone put me on a list of “Nazis and Criminals” and also a list of “Centrists,” and all I can do is LOL.

Is the one on the ‘Nazi and Criminal’ list meant to be the Rage Furby maybe?

**edited for typos and crap grammer

16
Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:11:57am
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:12:24am

“…The Office of Speaker may be declared vacant by resolution, which
may be offered as a matter of privilege. Manual Sec. 315; 6 Cannon
Sec. 35. Under rule I clause 8(b)(3), adopted in the 108th Congress,
the Speaker is required to deliver to the Clerk a list of Members in
the order in which each shall act as Speaker pro tempore in the case
of a vacancy in the Office of Speaker. The Member acting as Speaker
pro tempore under this provision may exercise such authorities of the
Office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate pending the
election of a Speaker or Speaker pro tempore. A vacancy in the Office
may exist by reason of the physical inability of the Speaker to
discharge the duties of the Office.”
govinfo.gov.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:14:56am

Architectural tour of Grand Central Terminal.

Every Detail of Grand Central Terminal Explained | Architectural Digest

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:14:58am

re: #15 2024 Blue Wisconsin

What the one listed on the ‘Nazi and Criminal ’ list meant to be the Rage Furby maybe?

Could be.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:16:38am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

[Trump’s] hero was and is Andrew Jackson.

It is interesting to speculate how Jackson (1767 - 1845) would have dealt with Southern nullification had he been alive in the 1860s.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:19:51am

Since last thread there was a discussion of Rudy Giuliani…

White Riot In 1992, thousands of furious, drunken cops descended on City Hall — and changed New York history.

…there’s a distinct possibility that he was always this guy, we just lived in a world where being a racist and a creep who fucked subordinates was somewhat acceptable, but also much easier to keep a lid on.

Given that his most famous oopsie—sticking an emergency response center for terrorism in a building most likely to hit by terrorism—was less of an unforced error and more of a favor for a friend whose building had expensive but unrented office space; and that his major change to NYC was broken windows policing—which is just the criminalization of poverty; it’s probably better to understand Giuliani’s descent as following an intuitive track from his class politics.

He’s a Reagan ghoul that constantly punched down on poor people, but had a couple of mafia and trading-related cases that could be framed to make him “anti-corruption” when in reality he was fine with malfeasance and self-dealing so long as it happened inside of conventional boundaries of authority: business favors are fine, violent cops are fine, the problems is free agents.

Trumpism flows intuitively from Reaganism, it’s just sour and fermented rather than sickly sweet, but they contain the same poison.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:24:01am

re: #319 KGxvi

makes sense, Jackson set back the early republic more than just about anyone. Trump wants to set back the modern republic more than just about anyone.

I think I’m in a biography mood, any one have suggestions on which TR biographies are the way to go? I’m not a fan of autobiographies because of the auto part. Also thinking I need a Hemmingway biography because that dude’s story is just fucking nuts.

Ernest Hemingway: A Life Story
by Carlos Baker | Jan 1, 1969
ASIN ‏ : ‎ B000H9OYAG
ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1122020678

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:26:34am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

Zuck is the moderately lesser of two evils.

I won’t cheer for him if they fight.

I’m old enough to remember when Zuck was the evil one, and Elon was just the electric car and rocket to Mars guy.

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Captain Ron  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:26:38am

The smokey season is finally upon us.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:26:57am

re: #17 jaunte

“…The Office of Speaker may be declared vacant by resolution, which
may be offered as a matter of privilege. Manual Sec. 315; 6 Cannon
Sec. 35. Under rule I clause 8(b)(3), adopted in the 108th Congress,
the Speaker is required to deliver to the Clerk a list of Members in
the order in which each shall act as Speaker pro tempore in the case
of a vacancy in the Office of Speaker. The Member acting as Speaker
pro tempore under this provision may exercise such authorities of the
Office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate pending the
election of a Speaker or Speaker pro tempore. A vacancy in the Office
may exist by reason of the physical inability of the Speaker to
discharge the duties of the Office.”
govinfo.gov.

What is this in relation to?
Certainly not Mitch McConnell as Mitch is in the Senate and the Senate doesn’t have a Speaker.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:27:58am

Found on Facebook:

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:28:05am

re: #26 A Three Hour Tour

I’m not thinking well today.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:31:07am
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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:31:25am

re: #28 jaunte

I’m not thinking well today.

I would make a crass comment about Mitch McConnell’s cognitive faculties in response, but now is probably not the time.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:31:54am

re: #30 A Three Hour Tour

I have no more room to talk on that subject!

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:35:52am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Mitch McConnell had another 30-second brain freeze. Get him out of Congress now.

Mitch will, of course, cling to power as long as he can. The GOP passed a law to require Governor Beshear to appoint a Republican to replace Mitch, but there’s a good chance he will appoint whoever he wants if the opportunity arises and dare the GOP to do something about it.

33
Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:37:01am

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:37:43am

An FBI source, a Burisma deal, the Bidens and details that don’t match up
wapo.st — Gift Link
Fact Check Analysis by Glenn Kessler

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:37:59am

re: #22 The Ghost of a Flea

The other thing that’s notably changed is…all of us.

In the eighties-nineties the news constantly positioned inner cities, and pointedly, black neighborhoods, as not just war zones but as occupied territory experiencing insurgency. In entertainment media much hay was made of how cops needed more license, more capacity to be brutal and lethal.

“Tough on crime” was an easy posture to cop, and to sell to white Americans, as representative of virtue.

But now we’re thirty years later and “tough on crime” hasn’t solved much of what it promised—we are still told the war is ongoing—cops that still accept the premise are visibly doing extrajudicial executions, and there’s been enough coverage of our outward-facing state violence against non-American targets for people to notice the homology, that it’s all smoke from the same approaching fire.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:40:42am
China’s unexpected decision to end its strict Covid Zero policy in December 2022 led to nearly 1.9 million excess deaths in just two months, according to one of the first independent studies to estimate the virus’s devastation as it rampaged across the vast country

bloomberg.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:41:28am

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

The other thing that’s notably changed is…all of us.

In the eighties-nineties the news constantly positioned inner cities, and pointedly, black neighborhoods, as not just war zones but as occupied territory experiencing insurgency. In entertainment media much hay was made of how cops needed more license, more capacity to be brutal and lethal.

“Tough on crime” was an easy posture to cop, and to sell to white Americans, as representative of virtue.

But now we’re thirty years later and “tough on crime” hasn’t solved much of what it promised—we are still told the war is ongoing—cops that still accept the premise are visibly doing extrajudicial executions, and there’s been enough coverage of our outward-facing state violence against non-American targets for people to notice the homology, that it’s all smoke from the same approaching fire.

The crack epidemic didn’t help either.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:43:32am

re: #24 No Malarkey!

I’m old enough to remember when Zuck was the evil one, and Elon was just the electric car and rocket to Mars guy.

Musk calling the British diver in Thai cave rescue ‘pedo’ should have been sufficient to show his evil.

39
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:43:43am

re: #20 BeenHereAwhile

It is interesting to speculate how Jackson (1767 - 1845) would have dealt with Southern nullification had he been alive in the 1860s.

Given his reaction during the Nullification Crisis It looks like he favored federal supremacy over a state being able to declare federal laws null.

Though that was during the period he was president. And he was also a slaveholder in Tennessee. I think he might have viewed secession as a poor move and weakening the United States and making it more vulnerable to foreign powers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:43:50am

re: #34 retired cynic

An FBI source, a Burisma deal, the Bidens and details that don’t match up
wapo.st — Gift Link
Fact Check Analysis by Glenn Kessler

There are shocking new audio tapes coming out on that as well, and, of course, I am shocked.

41
Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:44:49am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:46:19am

re: #37 Shropshire Slasher

The crack epidemic didn’t help either.

One of the big law and order things I remember from the crack period was how the laws made having crack a much bigger offense than having cocaine.

43
silverdolphin  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:47:12am

Overtime Pay to Be Extended to Millions of Workers

Just in time for labor day.

44
Shropshire Slasher  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:47:34am

Damn, now I want a Coca-Cola slushy for my brain freeze.

45
Jay C  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:50:37am

re: #41 Belafon

So nice: just another example of “can’t imagine Trump EVER doing that”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:50:48am

There is one McConnell that I really like

mcconnells.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:51:27am

re: #37 Shropshire Slasher

The crack epidemic didn’t help either.

The “crack epidemic” was a moral panic that set out poor black people hitting privation through addiction and making them inherently dangerous and deranged. Rather than seeing a sociogenic problem connected to poverty—did you know crack started as a labor-facilitating drug, exactly like how coke was used by wealthy users to keep themselves up and operating?—crack along with gangs was identified as a sign of fundamental violence and broken-ness inherent to inner cities, and the step taken to “combat” crack involved amping up violation of civil liberties in those regions.

It was bullshit designed to justify increased violence by police against detainees, and to create far longer and far harsher penalties for black addicts, hence the infamous gulf in sentencing for crack possession versus cocaine possession.

When the exact same process happened in Appalachia, but with white miners and oxycontin, the same phenomenon was and is presented sympathetically…right up until the moment that discussion of sociogenic conditions of addiction pointed to solutions that required greater civic investment, at which point conservatives started embracing the notion that Appalachia was culturally-broken and further descent into poverty and crime was inevitable.

The rhetorical structure just keeps recurring because the point isn’t an accurate description of the world, but because it’s an economical way to ablate the suffering population, cut them away and make their problems Not Our Problem.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:53:03am

A wordle comment for today — major spoiler — don’t read if you haven’t done it and are planning to do so.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:53:43am

Kentucky’s Black AG and GOP nominee for governor trying to pull the ladder up behind him.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:55:21am

I got stuck on the Tom Rush version of this song.

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ericblair  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:55:48am

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

But now we’re thirty years later and “tough on crime” hasn’t solved much of what it promised—we are still told the war is ongoing—cops that still accept the premise are visibly doing extrajudicial executions, and there’s been enough coverage of our outward-facing state violence against non-American targets for people to notice the homology, that it’s all smoke from the same approaching fire.

I think we’ve gotten more coverage of what cops routinely do from everyone having a video camera in their pocket 24/7, and video that can go viral in hours. The cops are usually protected by their local power structure as a matter of course, but a national and international shitstorm is well beyond what their little neck of the woods can control.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:56:38am

re: #42 Belafon

One of the big law and order things I remember from the crack period was how the laws made having crack a much bigger offense than having cocaine.

From a 2015 NYU Study:

The Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 was the first federal criminal law to differentiate crack from other forms of cocaine, establishing a 100:1 weight ratio as the threshold for eliciting the required five-year “mandatory minimum” penalty upon conviction of possession. Specifically, the penalty for possessing 500g of powder cocaine was comparable to possessing only 5g of crack).

The Fair Sentencing Act (2010) reduced sentencing disparities to 18:1, but sentencing disparities remain and the law is not retroactive, thus, those arrested prior to enactment remain in prison. The Smarter Sentencing Act (2014) was recently proposed to create less costly minimum terms for nonviolent drug offenders and would allow for the 8,800 federal prisoners (87% of whom are black) imprisoned for crack offenses to be resentenced in accordance with the Fair Sentencing Act.

nyu.edu

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 11:58:14am

Tennessee Nazi prosecutor trying to shut down Pride event based on an unconstitutional anti-drag law.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:01:20pm

re: #51 ericblair

I think we’ve gotten more coverage of what cops routinely do from everyone having a video camera in their pocket 24/7, and video that can go viral in hours. The cops are usually protected by their local power structure as a matter of course, but a national and international shitstorm is well beyond what their little neck of the woods can control.

Many of us are old enough to remember the L.A. rioting that occurred after cops were videotaped viciously beating Rodney King and then were acquitted at trial.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:02:37pm

re: #47 The Ghost of a Flea

Given what we now watch police do to justify violence and death on video, I’d say that the crack/gang “epidemic” of the 90s is further contextualized in ways that should make us…not accept that narrative at all.

As I rapidly learning in South Side Chicago, “gang-related” was the magic phrase that let police take any minor offense, any shit a kid could do impulsively, and make it a felony.

It also turned out to be how you ended up in the CPD’s black site.

Similarly, any possession could be turned into a dealing charge, and the fastest way to justify a stop was to “find” a baggy. And basically anything done struggling against an assault by police can be framed as “resisting arrest.”

“Cops invent crimes so they can do crime enforcement”—how do you know that’s happening and look at an era of enormous abuses of power by cops and not question everything?

And none of that is even getting into the CIA being in the middle of the crack distribution….

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:04:34pm

re: #47 The Ghost of a Flea

When the exact same process happened in Appalachia, but with white miners and oxycontin, the same phenomenon was and is presented sympathetically…right up until the moment that discussion of sociogenic conditions of addiction points to solution that require greater civic investment, at which point conservatives started embracing the notion that Appalachia was culturally-broken and further descent into poverty and crime was inevitable.

And even still the emphasis is on fearing the drug instead of the (white) addict. Oxycontin was supplanted by fentanyl in the same way crack was a supposedly super-powered version of cocaine and cops started passing out from panic attacks due to incidental exposure. However even with cops acting like they’re facing chemical WMDs while on duty in a war zone it’s still mostly just unarmed Black users at the margins who are being shot and choked to death. While white Appalachian addicts get the sympathetic Hillbilly Elegy treatment because humanizing them, and them alone, is a good stepping stone into politics.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:05:47pm

In extremely local news, some idiots thought they’d escape Stockholm PD…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:08:00pm

re: #30 A Three Hour Tour

I would make a crass comment about Mitch McConnell’s cognitive faculties in response, but now is probably not the time.

Its not like he’d understand it now. (Too soon?)

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:08:04pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

A few years ago, Texas passed a law to prevent people from covering up their license plates. It was meant to go after people who bought those tinted transparent covers that would make it hard for toll cameras to capture the plate.

Instead, cops used it to ticket anyone who had any part of the identifying part of a plate covered up, including the Texas printed near the top. The problem is that a lot of new and used cars have those frames from the dealership that covered parts of letters up. So people were being pulled over for that. I still see the tinted coverings on plates.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:09:54pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon ✅

Getting this flavor as part of a split single at the Ventura McConnells shop is a thing of joy

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:12:43pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

I got stuck on the Tom Rush version of this song.

Gregg Allman for me (of course)

Please don’t confront me with my failures…
I’m aware of them.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:16:14pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

And even still the emphasis is on fearing the drug instead of the (white) addict. Oxycontin was supplanted by fentanyl in the same way crack was a supposedly super-powered version of cocaine and cops started passing out from panic attacks due to incidental exposure. However even with cops acting like they’re facing chemical WMDs while on duty in a war zone it’s still mostly just unarmed Black users at the margins who are being shot and choked to death. While white Appalachian addicts get the sympathetic Hillbilly Elegy treatment because humanizing them, and them alone, is a good stepping stone into politics.

I somewhat disagree about Hillbilly Elegy because it’s core premise is that there is a cultural problem with Appalachia that does not have anything to do with prevailing economic conditions. There is a sympathetic angle only to the extent that the reproduction of whiteness requires an absolute minimum of solidarity; in this case, presenting the story as having some sociogenic elements, but only to the extent that Good White People have been let down by forces that racists and conservatives already see as malevolent.

It’s proximate to shooting and crying: nothing will be done to help Appalachians that requires spending, but white rightists will sympathetically witness their suffering so long as the former don’t say or do anything impolite

(like say aloud who robbed their region)

and the proposed solution (to Appalachians being lazy entitled welfare queens) is person responsibility.

That’s slightly softer than racism but it “solves” the same problem as racism, that you must invent inferior types to explain the unjust outcomes of the status quo…is this case specifically the exploitation relationship between extractive industries that dominate Appalachia and Appalachians that have had the precarity of their lives increased over and over to increase value extraction.

Hillbilly Elegy is a cynical man trading on his liminal position to tell an elite that his kind of people cannot manage themselves and must be handled by a superior kind.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:18:43pm

re: #28 jaunte

I’m not thinking well today.

We call that a Mitch glitch.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:21:03pm

Peter Navarro is about to FO.

Mastodon

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Charmingly Persistent  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:21:11pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

I am not excusing the racism at all. I do think people forget that crime was going up and up during the time. It peaked in about 1990 but at that time we had not way of knowing that was the peak, so everyone was freaking out. My daughters complained about the Clinton crime bill, and I said yes, but you don’t know what it was like. Everyone was really scared.

I should note that it had nothing to do with tough on crime stuff. It was getting lead out of the environment.

U.S. violent crime rate by year
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Captain Ron  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:23:33pm

re: #65 Charmingly Persistent

20 years after they got lead out of gasoline.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:24:31pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Mitch McConnell had another 30-second brain freeze. Get him out of Congress now.

Just be glad he doesn’t drive a car anymore.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:26:04pm

re: #62 The Ghost of a Flea

SNIP

Or, my interpretation (ymmv):

Hillbilly Elegy is a cynical man trading on his liminal position to tell an elite that his kind of people cannot manage themselves and must be handled by a superior kind lying piece of shit who was raised in Middletown, OH telling a bogus story to anyone who will buy it.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:28:03pm

re: #67 darthstar

Just be glad he doesn’t drive a car anymore.

Here’s the money shot. When his assistant tells the reporters he’s fine and winks.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:29:08pm

I was about a quarter second slow. She’s already lost her smile

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:34:40pm

re: #65 Charmingly Persistent

I am not excusing the racism at all. I do think people forget that crime was going up and up during the time. It peaked in about 1990 but at that time we had not way of knowing that was the peak, so everyone was freaking out. My daughters complained about the Clinton crime bill, and I said yes, but you don’t know what it was like. Everyone was really scared.

I should note that it had nothing to do with tough on crime stuff. It was getting lead out of the environment.

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Yeah, but my point is the “people got scared” part is less about the actual crime and more about how hegemony takes events and makes them pretexts for reproduction of the status quo. The majority of the people scared by crack and gangs and voting accordingly were nowhere near crack and gangs, were learning about it through reporting that amounted to penny dreadfuls.

Like, being on the South Side in the 90s, the locals had recommendations and thoughts about how aid could be applied and policing could be better to create better community outcomes, but the political agenda of “tough on crime” was control of an occupied territory such that if you were poor and black you were inside of a collectively-guilty population that had to be policed more harshly.

It’s exactly the same as when Americans “got scared” of Muslims.

And transexuals.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:34:43pm

re: #61 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Gregg Allman for me (of course)

Please don’t confront me with my failures…
I’m aware of them.

These Days

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:37:25pm

re: #72 BeenHereAwhile

Never heard his version!

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:38:14pm

My wife showed me a doc that seems to indicate that Ikea is considering building a store in Rockwall.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:38:39pm

The protester’s retort is… priceless.

Bro’ you’re already facing charges.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:44:49pm

re: #75 lawhawk

As someone said in the replies, we’ll see t-shirts soon.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:47:47pm

Despite Rubiales’ insistence he did nothing wrong, Spain’s government, its players’ unions, soccer clubs, fans and most importantly, Hermoso and her teammates, saw his act as a sexist abuse of power that was no longer tolerable. FIFA, the world soccer governing body, suspended Rubiales for 90 days, and Spain’s government is moving to have him declared unfit to hold the post.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:48:50pm
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sizzzzlerz  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:49:34pm

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

McConnell’s gonna go before Kissinger, isn’t he?

Keith Richards is gonna go before Kissinger

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:51:50pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

Keith Richards is gonna go before Kissinger

Do not speak such evil into existence.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:52:34pm

re: #11 jaunte

I will cheer for them both if they fight in a deep sea submersible.

Especially if it was made by OceanGate.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:54:31pm

Trump spewed his usual vitriol against Jack Smith and his search of Trump’s twitter account.

It’d probably be a violation of his bail, but more than that, Trump will find out what Smith found at one of the upcoming hearings. He’ll know what Smith knows, or more precisely, Trump will have his recollection refreshed by Smith’s filing that shows him using others’ phones and coordinating with coconspirators to try and mask Trump’s orders from official channels and his official phone.

Specifically, as per Judge Chutkan’s calendar order: parties shall exchange exhibit lists by 12/18/23 and file any objections to exhibits by 1/3/24; replies due 1/9/24. Proposed jury instructions and voir dire questions due 1/15/24. Parties shall exchange witness lists by 2/19/24. Trial will commence on 3/4/24 at 9:30 a.m. in Courtroom 9 unless otherwise specified. See Order for additional details and instructions. Signed by Judge Tanya S. Chutkan on 8/28/2023.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:56:36pm

re: #39 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Given his reaction during the Nullification Crisis It looks like he favored federal supremacy over a state being able to declare federal laws null.

Though that was during the period he was president. And he was also a slaveholder in Tennessee. I think he might have viewed secession as a poor move and weakening the United States and making it more vulnerable to foreign powers.

Nearly every time I come across someone speculating about “”What if the South had won?” they seem to just assume that the Confederacy would have held together as a single nation.

Which is a flawed notion, the whole purpose of the Confederacy was that the individual states were sovereign and at some point it most likely would have fallen apart or split into sub-Confederacies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:58:33pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

I got stuck on the Tom Rush version of this song.

Newgrass Revival has a great cover of it as well

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Teddy's Person  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:58:51pm

Isn’t Mitch the one who made a rule about replacing retiring Senators on committees so that if D. Feinstein retires, she can’t be replaced on one of her committees (judiciary I think).

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2023 • 12:59:58pm

watched the first department q episode on Amazon. This is just really damned good. If you want Wallander with way more bite, you’ll like it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:02:35pm

Wow, Trump’s posts today are unbelievably batshit.

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:03:03pm

oh, and you can now get diablo 4 for 25% off if you don’t mind hunting down a promotion code online.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:05:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:05:02pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Wow, Trump’s posts today are unbelievably batshit.

Batshit enough to go astray of his pretrial conditions?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:05:21pm

re: #85 Teddy’s Person

Isn’t Mitch the one who made a rule about replacing retiring Senators on committees so that if D. Feinstein retires, she can’t be replaced on one of her committees (judiciary I think).

Wasn’t it the rules weren’t changed but he made clear that a pro-forma approval of a replacement would never pass. So the GOP, especially under the treasonous weasel Mitch, knows how to use existing rules to obstruct normal processes. Think of this like his refusal to allow Obama to appoint a judge to replace Scalia.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:06:13pm
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Teddy's Person  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:09:57pm

re: #91 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t it the rules weren’t changed but he made clear that a pro-forma approval of a replacement would never pass. So the GOP, especially under the treasonous weasel Mitch, knows how to use existing rules to obstruct normal processes. Think of this like his refusal to allow Obama to appoint a judge to replace Scalia.

You’re right. It’s tough keeping track of the details of Republican bullshit in the Senate.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:12:37pm

re: #88 steve_davis

oh, and you can now get diablo 4 for 25% off if you don’t mind hunting down a promotion code online.

I’m playing Red Dead Redemption that I downloaded on my Nintendo Switch this week.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:13:53pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Wow, Trump’s posts today are unbelievably batshit.

Can you smell the desperation? Like a cornered rat.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:14:55pm

re: #92 Backwoods Sleuth

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This is a big fucking deal!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:15:04pm

re: #94 No Malarkey!

I’m playing Red Dead Redemption that I downloaded on my Nintendo Switch this week.

Are you liking it? I’ll probably snag it when the price drops a bit.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:15:34pm

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:16:11pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Are you liking it? I’ll probably snag it when the price drops a bit.

Getting to shoot lots of bad guys, and ride horses, so yes.

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BigPapa  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:16:11pm

re: #95 No Malarkey!

Can you smell the desperation? Like a cornered rat.

Smells better than BBQ when you’re hungry. I’m going to enjoy it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:18:22pm

Ah regular popcorn is insufficient. We got to take it to the next level.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:19:35pm

re: #98 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

again, events have shown that getting out the vote is the first step, we gotta make sure that those votes get properly counted, registered and certified.

they came within a hair of pulling it off in 2020

and are gonna redouble their efforts as they know it is their last chance

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:22:39pm

re: #98 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It’s almost like American liberalism and conservatism have some secret, unstated thing that they’re both protecting, such that the former must always treat the latter as valid, while the latter may discard the former…

…it’s almost like this pattern keeps the Overton Window from moving past a certain point, but only in one direction…

…but I’m just speculating here…definitely no identifiable patterns present in, say, foreign policy and trade that could explain this….

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:24:30pm

re: #101 Joe Bacon ✅

I will stick with my usual supplier.
nutstoyou.com

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:25:48pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

Keith Richards is gonna go before Kissinger

protons are gonna go before Richards goes.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:26:44pm

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

Batshit enough to go astray of his pretrial conditions?

If it were up to me he’d already be under the jail.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:27:41pm

re: #105 steve_davis

protons are gonna go before Richards goes.

I haven’t believed in immortal rock gods since Lemmy died.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:28:22pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

Keith Richards is gonna go before Kissinger

I’m really going to be pissed if I go before Kissinger.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:29:51pm

re: #107 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I haven’t believed in immortal rock gods since Lemmy died.

but the immortal rock gods believe in you

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:31:11pm

re: #94 No Malarkey!

I’m playing Red Dead Redemption that I downloaded on my Nintendo Switch this week.

I never played Red Dead, but I did enjoy the morning discussions of colleagues who played it, discussing how to avoid having your horse die a gruesome death when it decides to wander onto railroad tracks, or have to go back to a previous save because the horse falls into a crevice in which there is no way to extract it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:34:01pm

GOP seeks Biden travel records after report claims Hunter Biden hitched rides on Air Force Two

But they’re not interested in Señor Snort, Eric, Princess Ivanka and Lord Privy Steal Jared doing that.

rawstory.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:35:49pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’m really going to be pissed if I go before Kissinger.

If there was ever a person that our techbro fuckup sociopath overlords were going to try and download the brain of, it would be Kissinger.

They just need that fucking ghoul, need him so badly they’ll overlook how consistently his plans didn’t work long term. John Bolton is an inadequate substitute because he’s too bold a necrophage, he’d never consider doing bombing sneakily, or doing diplomacy with a country with an opposing ideology just because they’d be a great offshore labor source. Kissinger will end up like those Inca mummy bundles that priests would consult like they were still alive because the hegemony needs an occultist, a guy who says horrible things in ways that could mistake for insightful and thus launders terrible, greedy ideas.

Thankfully they failed to Darth Vader the Dulles Brothers.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:37:50pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

The periodic red scares in US politics have had the effect of removing any real lefty ideas from US politics, especially on economic issues. So what we have (in an increasingly extreme fashion) is a center-right party (D) vs. a fascist party (R), which suits the plutocracy perfectly. No economic policies that might challenge the plutocracy can get off the ground, because neither party supports them, and nobody notices this glaring omission because the two parties are locked in a cage match over social issues.

And this is not to diminish the importance of the social issues — Republicans are trying to make second class citizens (or worse) out of people, so that shit has to be resisted full force.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:38:37pm

re: #57 Teukka

In extremely local news, some idiots thought they’d escape Stockholm PD…

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Looks like the police and tow trucks just cleared up the mess after the chase where I live.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:39:12pm

Crying J6 defendant breaks with spouse in court: ‘He chose the Oath Keepers over his family’

An Oath Keeper member convicted earlier this year in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol broke with her spouse during sentencing on Wednesday, Politico’s Kyle Cheney reports.

rawstory.com

Connie Meggs, 60, of Dunnellon, Florida, was among six members of the Oath Keepers found guilty in March of conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, among other charges.

Her husband, Kelly Meggs, 54, of Dunnellon, Florida, was convicted along with the group’s founder, Stewart Rhodes, of seditious conspiracy.

Meggs was sentenced to 12 years in prison followed by three years of supervised release.

Cheney reports that Connie Meggs said during Wednesday’s proceeding that her husband had concealed his history of violent rhetoric from and and “chose the Oath Keepers over his family.”

“Remarkable moments at Oath Keeper Connie Meggs’ sentencing,” Cheney said in a social media post.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:39:29pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

The periodic red scares in US politics have had the effect of removing any real lefty ideas from US politics, especially on economic issues.

And perfectly normal things like universl health care, labor unions , labor legislation and free higher education are seen as radical Marxist threats to our Way of Life.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:40:49pm

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And perfectly normal things like universl health care, labor unions and labor legislation and free higher education are seen as radical Marxist thinking.

This. Anything less extreme than abject wage-slavery has successfully been branded as “communism” in the US.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:41:33pm

re: #105 steve_davis

protons are gonna go before Richards goes.

It really sucks that Kissinger will represent us after the death of the universe.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:43:36pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

Please stop with the center-right party stuff about Democrats or I’ll be forced to once again go find the NYT chart showing the part is in the left half of the world’s political parties.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:45:59pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

…

And this is not to diminish the importance of the social issues — Republicans are trying to make second class citizens (or worse) out of people, so that shit has to be resisted full force.

Especially issues guaranteeing that all American citizens (who are not currently incarcerated because they are convicted of a crime) have the right to vote and have easy access to a polling place or mail-in ballots.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:46:20pm

Not getting to accomplish some things is not the same as not wanting to do them.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:46:58pm

re: #119 Belafon

I don’t care about the NYT chart. The fact that Biden is the first D president in a very long time to be visibly pro-labor (even with issues here and there) is already case closed.

To be more specific, the Democrats are center right (or worse) on economic issues, and center-left (sometimes better) on social issues.

Just look at the clusterfuck surrounding the enactment of the ACA. That was severely degraded from what it should have been by some Democrats.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:48:46pm

re: #118 Belafon

It really sucks that Kissinger will represent us after the death of the universe.

That said, the thought of him being sucked back into a an infinitesimally tiny singularity does have an emotional appeal.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:54:12pm

re: #122 EPR-radar

Did the whole party do that to the ACA or did a few people force it to be that way?

You sound a bit like “everyone to the right of me is a conservative. “

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:54:26pm

re: #85 Teddy’s Person

Isn’t Mitch the one who made a rule about replacing retiring Senators on committees so that if D. Feinstein retires, she can’t be replaced on one of her committees (judiciary I think).

Why can’t Democrats repeal that rule? They’re in the majority.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:56:19pm

These Days

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:56:20pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Why can’t Democrats repeal that rule? They’re in the majority.

Manchin, Sinema.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:57:25pm

re: #127 Belafon

Manchin, Sinema.

Why am I not surprised?

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:58:23pm

Once again, it only takes a couple to ruin the ability of Democrats to get things done,

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:58:33pm

North of Charleston. People out driving/working as usual.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2023 • 1:59:12pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Why can’t Democrats repeal that rule? They’re in the majority.

Filibuster bullshit, I think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:00:09pm

re: #118 Belafon

It really sucks that Kissinger will represent us after the death of the universe.

I would trust him to go up against Q in a trial for the fate of humanity. He would be the bigger bastard of the two

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:01:36pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Why can’t Democrats repeal that rule? They’re in the majority.

Rules are voted on at the beginning of each Congress. Simple majority. But changing the rules mid-cycle is a whole “gotta get past the filibuster” production, so it doesn’t generally happen.

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piratedan  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:02:12pm

re: #122 EPR-radar

that is true, but you’ll also note that this was 15 years ago when there was a significant Blur-Dog Dem caucus, it simply doesn’t exist anymore as even post the Obama years, those folks have been replaced by R’s or more liberal Dems. With the polarization of the GOP to oust their moderates, the same has happened on the Dem side. 15 years ago a Green New Deal was laughable, now its a standard on the left and embraced.

times have changed.

Also have to remember, that the Senate was also a different animal then as well, Mitch McConnell was just getting up to speed with his scorched earth policies with Obama’s election.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:09:15pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

If you count in the overseas red scares—in which the military, the intelligence appartus, and the foreign service arrived at the conclusion that people fighting for autonomy from existing colonial structure had to be repressed, then outsourced that repression by creating or subsidizing a local junta or death squad to do the repressing—the red scare is continuous not periodic.

Modern reactionaries are not inventing new parameters of repression, nor new apparatuses to achieve repression, they’re adapting existing tools use to preserve hegemony overseas to use in domestic settings.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:09:49pm

re: #134 piratedan

that is true, but you’ll also note that this was 15 years ago when there was a significant Blur-Dog Dem caucus, it simply doesn’t exist anymore as even post the Obama years, those folks have been replaced by R’s or more liberal Dems. With the polarization of the GOP to oust their moderates, the same has happened on the Dem side. 15 years ago a Green New Deal was laughable, now its a standard on the left and embraced.

times have changed.

Also have to remember, that the Senate was also a different animal then as well, Mitch McConnell was just getting up to speed with his scorched earth policies with Obama’s election.

Once Franken was finally seated, Democrats started out 2009 with a veto-proof majority in the Senate. We haven’t seen anything like that since 2009. What harmed everything was the death of Kennedy and his replacement by a Republican in the special election in early 2010. It tied Obama’s hands and then the ACA rollout fiasco killed Obama’s ability to get more great things accomplished by giving us a Republican House starting in 2011.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:10:38pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Wow, Trump’s posts today are unbelievably batshit.

Thank you everyone for not posting these here.

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BigPapa  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:13:44pm

re: #135 The Ghost of a Flea

Exactly. When I see right wing chuds with Pinochet TShirts saying ‘Free Helicopter Rides’ I think if things go bad here it will be more Operation Condor than Nazi Germany. That bullshit from the Heritage Foundation about firing 50,000 Fed workers just screams Right Wing Death Squads.

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piratedan  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:15:31pm

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

I remember it well, they delayed Franken being seated until July, giving them roughly six months of control in the Senate and thankfully Nancy Smash had as many ducks in a row as she did as it was a flurry of incremental progress that suddenly lurched thru.

Same is true for Biden, the first two years of House control Nancy got her caucus behind a whole boatload of needed change and marched that shit right thru the process.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:19:26pm

re: #139 piratedan

I remember it well, they delayed Franken being seated until July, giving them roughly six months of control in the Senate and thankfully Nancy Smash had as many ducks in a row as she did as it was a flurry of incremental progress that suddenly lurched thru.

Same is true for Biden, the first two years of House control Nancy got her caucus behind a whole boatload of needed change and marched that shit right thru the process.

The Dems did have 59 Senators before Franken was seated but thanks to the filibuster nothing could get done. The only reason the ACA finally passed was due to budget reconciliation.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:20:12pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:24:11pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:25:17pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Mitch McConnell had another 30-second brain freeze. Get him out of Congress now.

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BigPapa  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:26:28pm

So the Great Wyte Governor who got yelled at after the racist mass shooting now is saying ‘you loot, we shoot.’ He’s a fucking caveman with an Ivy League degree.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:27:32pm

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nines09  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:29:11pm

re: #144 BigPapa

So the Great Wyte Governor who got yelled at after the racist mass shooting now is saying ‘you loot, we shoot.’ He’s a fucking caveman with an Ivy League degree.

He’s feeding the gun humpers and guys who became cops to shoot people.
His voters.
But everyone is strapped.
Oh noe….
Once upon a time I thought of Florida as a place I’d like.
Until I traveled it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:31:51pm

re: #143 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

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The worst part is that anyone who replaces McConnell as Minority Leader will be far worse than he is. Every Republican is more vile than the previous one.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:33:11pm

Mastodon

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:36:06pm

re: #144 BigPapa

So the Great Wyte Governor who got yelled at after the racist mass shooting now is saying ‘you loot, we shoot.’ He’s a fucking caveman with an Ivy League degree.

A perfect example of a well-educated Nazi. Some people really are just that fucking evil, and have no excuse from ignorance or the like.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:36:08pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:37:48pm

re: #150 Backwoods Sleuth

I’m now imagining McConnell’s jar in the Hall of Heads, and it being a white turtle.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:41:24pm

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

The Dems did have 59 Senators before Franken was seated but thanks to the filibuster nothing could get done. The only reason the ACA finally passed was due to budget reconciliation.

Letting the filibuster stay in place is ongoing political malpractice by Democrats. It’s overwhelmingly a tool that advantages Republicans by stopping anything from getting done.

To those that say without the filibuster Republicans would repeal everything good that was ever enacted by Congress, I say “so what”. If the electorate is stupid enough to give Republicans control of Congress and the Presidency, they need to know exactly what that means. We aren’t a GOP dictatorship (yet), and Republicans enacting their shit policies (e.g., Dodds) is the one thing that actually seems to get through to the electorate.

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nines09  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:42:14pm

re: #148 jaunte

I want to see him live on TV looking like he’s chewing Alka Seltzer.

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Egregious Philbin  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:42:56pm

I’ve noticed that none of the usual evangelicals and talibornagains are saying that this hurricane is god’s punishment on a wicked state. Must be the devil doing it to DeSantis and company…go figure.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:43:08pm

re: #141 Backwoods Sleuth

re: #144 BigPapa

If I can just eat the food in your store to not starve, then your ownership conveys no coercive advantage.

If you can shoot me if I try to not-starve, you retain coercive power. If cops can shoot me if I try to not-starve, then the state’s job is not to help people live but to formalize that coercion.

Property rights transcend the right to live because the function of the state is to enforce hierarchy; it’s a system designed by people who owned people, who had an eye to stealing a bunch of land from other people who owned land more loosely.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:48:29pm

re: #155 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s also that nasty business of the plutocracy effectively making shopkeepers, cops and the like into their stormtroopers, while remaining well-insulated from riots caused directly by their oppression.

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Charmingly Persistent  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:50:49pm

re: #71 The Ghost of a Flea

I agree with pretty much everything you said here and in your other comments. I was just adding some context that I think younger people might not know about.

Rudy was always a horrible authoritarian racist. The New York Times loved him, but the New Yorker had the real scoop.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 2:57:43pm

re: #119 Belafon

Please stop with the center-right party stuff about Democrats or I’ll be forced to once again go find the NYT chart showing the part is in the left half of the world’s political parties.

Conservatism began as an argument for monarchy, and conservatism within democracy amounts to an argument that there are small kings, and within conservatism there is simply divided discussion on how far that ennoblement extends, where the license ends and the enforcement begins.

This is why I’d argue that US Democrats possess conservative traits, because within the party there are individuals and (very well-moneyed) institutions that argue for distinction because individual merit, both moral and skillful, is the determining factor on how the state should apply penalties and subsidizes. Meritocracy is inegalitarian and it is conservative…it’s literally the pus-filled filled heart of Thatcher and her neoliberal economic policy, with all the devastation that wrought on Britain…and American Democrats regularly incorporate it into policy.

That’s what means-testing and job requirements are; that’s what using testing as a metric for school funding is. Some of these things you could point to as “compromises” with Republicans, but within the spectrum of Democrats there are clearly individuals that believe in meritocracy and will fuck with legislation to add criterion. This is probably not what most members of the party want, it’s not their stated goal at least, but a system is what is does not what it intends.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:01:36pm

Previous thread about Ro Kahanna:

re: #361 EPR-radar

This guy is the Representative for my district — it’s a pity he’s being an idiot about this.

Call his staffer and tell them so.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:04:07pm

Ari has another bomb involving Ranger Stone.

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KGxvi  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:10:45pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

Letting the filibuster stay in place is ongoing political malpractice by Democrats. It’s overwhelmingly a tool that advantages Republicans by stopping anything from getting done.

To those that say without the filibuster Republicans would repeal everything good that was ever enacted by Congress, I say “so what”. If the electorate is stupid enough to give Republicans control of Congress and the Presidency, they need to know exactly what that means. We aren’t a GOP dictatorship (yet), and Republicans enacting their shit policies (e.g., Dodds) is the one thing that actually seems to get through to the electorate.

The GOP knows that most of their stated policies are unpopular. This is why they rarely pursue any policies beyond tax cuts (which are, at least, superficially popular because who doesn’t like more money in their pocket) when they gain power. I fully suspect that had any other Republican but Trump been elected in 2016 and ended up with three Supreme Court appointments at least one (and probably two) would have ended up being votes to uphold Roe (similar to Reagan appointing Kennedy and O’Connor).

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:15:56pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

Some times egalitarianism has to be rejected. E.g., nobody wants (or should have) their heart procedure done by a non-expert. It seems like the step from that legit position to an indefensible “meritocracy” is all too easy to take.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:17:09pm
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Teddy's Person  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:20:51pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Why can’t Democrats repeal that rule? They’re in the majority.

See HD upstream. It wasn’t a rule but a Mitch special where he used Senate rules to be a major asshole.

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KGxvi  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:21:49pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Some times egalitarianism has to be rejected. E.g., nobody wants (or should have) their heart procedure done by a non-expert. It seems like the step from that legit position to an indefensible “meritocracy” is all too easy to take.

If I ever got around to writing a book about political theory, I have this idea that I’ve been trying to work out that the key to a workable system is balance. Maybe one of these days I will flush it out.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:24:20pm

re: #144 BigPapa

So the Great Wyte Governor who got yelled at after the racist mass shooting now is saying ‘you loot, we shoot.’ He’s a fucking caveman with an Ivy League degree.

GITMO shaped him more than whatever Ivy he attended.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:27:07pm

Mastodon

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:27:32pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Previous thread about Ro Kahanna:

Call his staffer and tell them so.

Good idea. Done.

Dear Representative Khanna,

I respectfully disagree with your recent public comments suggesting that Trump’s criminal trial dates may need to be moved for “fairness”.

Trump has (and should have) the same rights as any other criminal defendant, no more and no less, such as due process of law and a speedy trial.

Notably, these rights do not include a right to run for President and/or a right to have that run for President interfere with his criminal trials.

Had Trump wished to run for another term in office after his loss in 2020, he should not have attempted to violently overthrow the US government on Jan 6.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:33:17pm

re: #161 KGxvi

The GOP knows that most of their stated policies are unpopular. This is why they rarely pursue any policies beyond tax cuts (which are, at least, superficially popular because who doesn’t like more money in their pocket) when they gain power. I fully suspect that had any other Republican but Trump been elected in 2016 and ended up with three Supreme Court appointments at least one (and probably two) would have ended up being votes to uphold Roe (similar to Reagan appointing Kennedy and O’Connor).

I disagree about SCOTUS appointments. The new Federalist Society members are far more devoted to overturning Roe. The most vile Scotus members — Thomas and Alito — were not appointed by Trump but by Bush 41 and Bush 43. There is no doubt Roe was on the chopping block with any new Republicans appointed to the Court.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:33:19pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

My very first constituent letter to a member of Congress. In my defense, I’ve mostly lived in places with decent (or better) representatives.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:33:43pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:35:36pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:36:18pm

re: #172 Backwoods Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:36:20pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

I disagree about SCOTUS appointments. The new Federalist Society members are far more devoted to overturning Roe. The most vile Scotus members — Thomas and Alito — were not appointed by Trump but by Bush 41 and Bush 43. There is no doubt Roe was on the chopping block with any new Republicans appointed to the Court.

This. Plus Trump’s judge picks were one of the most “generic R” things of his whole deplorable presidency — he just worked his way down the Federalist Society list with random tweaks to it as suggested by the Republican devil that most recently whispered in his ear.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:38:11pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Some times egalitarianism has to be rejected. E.g., nobody wants (or should have) their heart procedure done by a non-expert. It seems like the step from that legit position to an indefensible “meritocracy” is all too easy to take.

I’m not sure how to react because my statement is bounded in very precise ways.

I’m talking about how states apply resources to create common good, not some wacky Harrison Bergeron shit where everyone’s forced to be the same by unstated omnipotent overlords that let people do surgery for lulz.

But if I were going to address, distinction based on testing and evaluation is useful precisely when it’s case-specific, indeed as narrow as possible with as much eye to specificity of “what is this person capable of” as possible. The more you attempt to invent generalizable distinction based off evaluation, to create a hierarchy. the worse the applied validity becomes and the more the resulting system is exclusionary in ways that do nothing for efficiency.

And I’d defend this assessment in vitro and in vivo: America struggles with the notion that people good at one thing must generally be “smart” and “good”—heart surgeons that sell dodgy supplements convincing themselves they can write economic policy and oligarchs that have, technically, made a lot of money thinking they’re good at anything other than the shmoozing/lying required to handle people—not a surplus of randos trying highly technical tasks.

This is why IQ is stupid as a thing to evaluate people on even if g exists, and this is why eugenics seem to just perpetuate a racist failson-ocracy rather than surprisingly hoist up a new elite. Judging people by their IQ makes you callous and analytically lazy; assuming that people who do bad things or cruel things are primarily “stupid” is just soft eugenics.

And further such evaluation has to exist within a larger accountability structure such that if, say, a person did incredibly well on an evaluation but then did horrific, harmful things with the credibility and clout they got from merely meeting the evaluation criterion (which by virtue of being bounded, are gamified and thus possible to game) or the result will just be…what’s happening to elite US colleges, where the value proposition is less the information and skills, and more the underlying networking process and rubber-stamp that you are part on an in-group.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:43:21pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

I wasn’t disagreeing. My point was that the step from “expertise (or merit) exists” to “therefore meritocracy (alway corrupt in practice) is the proper social order” is not justified, even in the impossible edge case where the meritocracy isn’t corrupt by its own standards.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:48:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:49:54pm

re: #119 Belafon

Please stop with the center-right party stuff about Democrats or I’ll be forced to once again go find the NYT chart showing the part is in the left half of the world’s political parties.

nytimes.com

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KGxvi  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:53:22pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

I disagree about SCOTUS appointments. The new Federalist Society members are far more devoted to overturning Roe. The most vile Scotus members — Thomas and Alito — were not appointed by Trump but by Bush 41 and Bush 43. There is no doubt Roe was on the chopping block with any new Republicans appointed to the Court.

Yes, FedSoc has been taken over by the SoCon faction (there used to be a pretty solid balance between SoCons and libertarian types, at least when I ran in those circles in law school)… but my thinking is more of a political calculation mode (something that Trump’s lizard brain can’t quite comprehend). Elected Republicans have know that their base wanted Roe overturned, so it has always been a solid turnout generator. But they also knew, deep down, that if the dog ever caught the proverbial tire, they were fucked - which is basically what has happened to them every time since Dobbs was handed down. So my thinking is that Cruz or Rubio or Jeb or whomever would have appointed someone that had all the right credentials but who ended up “surprising” everyone on abortion cases. Then they’d be able to continue running on the issue without actually being able to do anything.

And let’s face it, for the last 30 years or so, “running on issues without actually being able to do anything about them” has been page 1 of the GOP playbook.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:56:49pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

I wasn’t disagreeing. My point was that the step from “expertise (or merit) exists” to “therefore meritocracy (alway corrupt in practice) is the proper social order” is not justified, even in the impossible edge case where the meritocracy isn’t corrupt by its own standards.

I think the difference is one of definition.

The way I’m using “merit” is non-intersecting with expertise, partly because the political idea “meritocracy” in politics is both-or-either moral and technical in a way that’s dialectic but also amorphous because it’s a not a good construct, it’s a legerdemain that slices hierarchy into individual servings but achieves the same thing as caste. A great example of how merit and meritocracy are just…fucked concepts not meant to help…is that one of the expedient measures of “merit” is wealth, independent of how that wealth was accumulated.

Which, again…emphasizing that I’m concerning mostly with the framework by which states act…creates the kind of thing where we’ll constantly make a poor person piss in a cup to get chits for buying enough food to not die.

Merit, within meritocracy, is de facto a process of recognition by hegemony…government, usually by pricks who already have power, usually so the pricks can evaluate if the evaluator will be useful to them. It is separate from expertise, which is a mix of techne and metis that can be validating simply by doing the thing.

Hence me not understanding you.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 3:57:30pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:01:58pm

Screenshot from Reed Timmer’s stream, from this morning. He was on the second floor on an apartment in Cedar Key, looking down at the sea surge below him, which at this point was over a meter deep:

sea surge Cedar Key 30 Aug 2023

It is so emblematic of the real estate crisis that is rolling out, a slow roll, in low lying areas.

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nines09  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:03:12pm

re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Good luck on that sale.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:05:47pm

From the same stream. These beach houses are on stilts, but clearly said stilts were not high enough:

beach house inundation sea surge 30 Aug 2023
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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:06:19pm

x.com

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:11:32pm

re: #186 Backwoods Sleuth

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Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. How much does it cost to make 1000 doses of insulin? How much were drug companies charging consumers for those 1000 doses? That, right there, is why Medicare needs the power to negotiate drug costs. Go fuck yourself sideways with a rusty pitchfork.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:11:58pm

We got home! (3 hours ago)

I had to unload the car, put the dirty clothes into the washer, run to the store to buy some fresh food, prepare & eat the food, pick all the tomatoes that ripened on the vine while we were away, and plug the laptop into the docking station.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:13:14pm

re: #186 Backwoods Sleuth

Without socialist price controls, the people in Florida hurt by the hurricane would be getting fucked in the ass right now by price gouging.

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nines09  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:15:37pm

Handy Matt always with a helping hand…

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:16:21pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:17:08pm

re: #180 The Ghost of a Flea

Ah. In your view, “merit” in a meritocracy is much like whiteness in a racist regime — an axiomatically dishonest construct having no purpose other than to provide “justification” of conservative power structures. I agree with that proposition.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:18:25pm

re: #189 Vicious Babushka

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KGxvi  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:18:31pm

re: #186 Backwoods Sleuth

She’s right.. the obvious free market solution is to make items for medical care (drugs, equipment, medical devices) exempt from patents and instead immediate part of the public domain.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:19:52pm

re: #171 Backwoods Sleuth

There are times when I could actually be evil, and she would never get any rest.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:21:02pm

re: #186 Backwoods Sleuth

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America’s Health Insurance Plans
ahip.org > news > articles
New Study: In the Midst of COVID-19 Crisis, 7 out of 10 Big Pharma Companies Spent more on sales and marketing than r&d.

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And I will again point out that only the US and New Zealand allow direct to consumer drug advertising.

Also, Marsha is a moron.

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KGxvi  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:21:50pm

Things continue to go awry for my old con law professor:

In Tuesday’s Fox News interview, Eastman continued to double down on lies about the election, and insisted he “had lots of evidence of fraud.”

“I haven’t seen that evidence, and I’m always wanting to see everything,” Ingraham said. “I’d love to see that evidence.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:24:50pm

re: #177 Backwoods Sleuth

Pretty sure that’s illegal. You can’t use law to do illegal things and you can’t use this in advance of doing illegal stuff. I’m sure there would be some “walking up to the line” he might be able to get away with but nothing that he could

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:24:51pm

re: #165 KGxvi

Recommended on the subject of balance in society, Voltaire’s Bastards

It can be a bit of a slog but when I first read it I had an epiphany.

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nines09  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:27:41pm

re: #189 Vicious Babushka

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:30:25pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

Ah. In your view, “merit” in a meritocracy is much like whiteness in a racist regime — an axiomatically dishonest construct having no purpose other than to provide “justification” of conservative power structures. I agree with that proposition.

Especially when you look at the geneaology of the idea.

It’s like when US reactionaries talk about “freedom”: the broader idea “freedom” is being used like an ink cloud, making their usage of the word—with a much more limited and exclusionary meaning—hard to argue about.

Rigged evaluation systems backed by an elite that rigged them are ancient, but what obsesses me is the very specific formula that was create by neoliberals, which used the word “meritocracy” and invented a bunch of the state-level inconvenient evaluations systems that make life miserable for poor people. It’s a smart system because it leans into a series of base assumptions that most people with an Enlightenment worldview holds…for example, the primacy of the individual as sole actor…and uses it to create a kind of mind-labyrinth in which there can be no systemic issues, no class warfare or racism, and visible hierarchy…even when it’s being enforced through state action…is actually the product of cream rising to the top.

It’s the rot from which the paleo-liberation woodlice emerge to say “actually, it’s oppression to observe that past oppression had material consequences that result in current inequality.”

(It’s also low-key inciting incident for the movie “The Full Monty”: you are watching men who have had their jobs destroyed by privatization be shamed by their government for being “on the dole,” being forced to attend job centers in spite of there being no positions precisely because the layoffs were system-wide, and in that humiliation and feelding of worthlessness developing a wacky scheme to get -any- money.)

In the US probably the best demonstration would be the terror of welfare queens and the evaluation criterion put into practice as a consequence. The constant fear that someone will get something they are not owed is used push policy right, but also to obscure a larger societal question about why we, as a community, have be conditioned to accept that people will suffer and die from readily preventable causes.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:31:43pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I’m really going to be pissed if I go before Kissinger.

Well, no, you won’t. I certainly will, if *I* haven’t stepped on a rainbow and gone to who the fuck knows where, if anywhere.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:32:32pm

Mastodon

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:35:25pm

re: #194 Backwoods Sleuth

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:36:25pm

re: #184 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

From the same stream. These beach houses are on stilts, but clearly said stilts were not high enough:

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They’re going to learn about the FEMA 50% Substantial Improvement Rule which is baked into local construction permits, and good luck in renewing their property insurance.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:37:04pm

re: #205 Vicious Babushka

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:37:46pm

Still 75 degrees outside…worse yet, it’s 75 degrees inside. Windows left open all day.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:38:34pm

re: #163 Backwoods Sleuth

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That is a BIG honkin’ Eastern Diamondback Rattler.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:39:54pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:43:49pm
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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:47:46pm

re: #211 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

has anyone tried unplugging Mitch McConnell and plugging him back in
12:55 PM * Aug 30, 2023

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Actually, yes. Wisps of smoke escaped out of both ears.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:49:59pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:52:56pm

re: #170 EPR-radar

My very first constituent letter to a member of Congress. In my defense, I’ve mostly lived in places with decent (or better) representatives.

A+

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wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:53:11pm

It says something when a guy leaves a nice tent, with its stakes and poles in matching bags, and also had six sets of tent stakes, and enough rope, cord, clothesline, and string to tie up everything I can think of. He lived through a couple of tornadoes. The house he was born in blew away (later) in a tornado.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:53:21pm

re: #213 Backwoods Sleuth

scab

A pigeon walks the red carpet at the Venice Film Festival opening ceremony. bit.ly

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Squab!

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 4:58:46pm

re: #210 Backwoods Sleuth

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the front page on Biden’s phone:

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:11:40pm

re: #210 Backwoods Sleuth

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:16:14pm
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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:19:39pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:20:58pm

re: #221 Backwoods Sleuth

When bullriding is outlawed, only outlaws will ride with bulls.

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:22:31pm

re: #189 Vicious Babushka

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:26:22pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

IMO you really should consider getting these ideas published. The immortal “conservatism consists of exactly one proposition” rant is just a rant, and thus has limited reach.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:30:38pm

re: #222 darthstar

Here’s a cool chart for an indoor meeting:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:30:48pm

On the McConnel thing: it’s simple, really.

Old age has finally got him.

I don’t rejoice at that.

And frankly, I’m worried KY will send another Rand Paul type as his replacement.

Still, the McConnell episode shines a light on just how badly the Senate needs reform.

It was created as a compromise.

It was never intended to be a House of Lords with doddering old farts who stay in there until they die.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:37:30pm

re: #179 KGxvi

Yes, FedSoc has been taken over by the SoCon faction (there used to be a pretty solid balance between SoCons and libertarian types, at least when I ran in those circles in law school)… but my thinking is more of a political calculation mode (something that Trump’s lizard brain can’t quite comprehend). Elected Republicans have know that their base wanted Roe overturned, so it has always been a solid turnout generator. But they also knew, deep down, that if the dog ever caught the proverbial tire, they were fucked - which is basically what has happened to them every time since Dobbs was handed down. So my thinking is that Cruz or Rubio or Jeb or whomever would have appointed someone that had all the right credentials but who ended up “surprising” everyone on abortion cases. Then they’d be able to continue running on the issue without actually being able to do anything.

And let’s face it, for the last 30 years or so, “running on issues without actually being able to do anything about them” has been page 1 of the GOP playbook.

Views have changed over the years. The GOP has become more conservative and fascist each year. Well before the Dobbs decision, Texas passed vile anti-choice legislation. I am confident that new GOP appointments to SCOTUS would have overturned Roe. This is what their base wants.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:42:10pm

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

IMO, Roberts is one of the few remaining cynical realists about abortion in the GOP judiciary — he wanted to continue with “death by a 1000 cuts” to reproductive rights to keep the right agitated and the left asleep (as was Justice Kennedy’s policy).

But there’s a new generation of hard-core GOP fruit loops in the judiciary where howling about overturning Roe has been in the right wing background their entire lives. In other words, they are swivel-eyed true believers on abortion and a whole host of other issues.

If they can enact the Republic of Gilead by judicial decree, they will do so without hesitation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:42:33pm

re: #221 Backwoods Sleuth

I don’t know why people would be upset about this. That’s pretty tame for Nebraska. The bull didn’t hurt anyone.

There is a law requiring a brand inspection certificate for cattle requiring branding. There is also a law requiring proper care of transporting livestock which carries a misdemeanour penalty, so I guess this guy is going to pay a fine.

<(1)(a) Any person, other than the owner or the owner’s employee, using a motor vehicle or trailer to transport livestock or carcasses over any land within the brand inspection area not owned or rented by such person or who is so transporting such livestock upon a highway, public street, or thoroughfare within the brand inspection area shall have in his or her possession a livestock transportation permit, certificate of inspection, or shipping certificate from a registered feedlot or registered dairy, authorizing such movement as to each head of livestock transported by such vehicle.

(b) Any such person outside the brand inspection area transporting livestock shall have in his or her possession a livestock transportation permit or other proof of ownership acceptable to the peace officer, the number of livestock, and the destination of the livestock, which permit shall be delivered to the public market or anyone to whom the livestock are being delivered.

(2) A livestock transportation permit shall be in writing and shall state the name of the owner of the livestock, the owner’s post office address, the place from which the livestock are being moved, including the name of the ranch, if any, the destination, the name and address of the carrier, the license number and make of motor vehicle to which consigned, together with the number of livestock and a description thereof including kind, sex, breed, color, and marks, if any, and in the case of livestock shipments originating within the brand inspection area, the brands, if there are any. The permit shall be signed by the owner of the livestock or the owner’s authorized agent. Livestock transportation permits shall be made in quadruplicate: One to be delivered to the motor carrier or motor carrier’s agent, one to be retained by the owner of the livestock to be shipped, one to be delivered to the agent of the yard company receiving such livestock, and one to be delivered to the consignee at destination upon delivery of the consignment. Such permits shall be on forms approved by the Nebraska Brand Committee.

(3) Any peace officer, based upon probable cause to question the ownership of the livestock being transported, may stop a motor vehicle or motor vehicle and trailer and request exhibition of any permit or certificate required by this section./blockquote>

2013 Nebraska Revised Statutes
Chapter 54 - LIVESTOCK
54-1,115 - Livestock transportation permit; requirements.

(1) Each express company engaged in the business of receiving and transporting freight in this state shall, when livestock is entrusted to its care for shipment or transportation, exercise due care and diligence in protecting such livestock from all inclement weather during the period of such shipment. All such express companies shall provide for the proper housing of any livestock, whether crated or uncrated, entrusted to its care at any point where such express company receives freight to be shipped to other points or at any point where such express company receives freight transported from other points.

(2) Any violation of this section is a Class V misdemeanor

2020 Nebraska Revised Statutes
Chapter 54 - Livestock
54-7,104 Livestock; care.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:47:18pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:52:51pm

re: #231 Belafon

IMO it’s particularly a mistake to personalize the evils of Republicans on McConnell.

Everything he has done is ideologically ‘generic Republican’. He has been very effective at gaming the Senate rules to GOP advantage, but realistically, how hard can that be?

The US Senate is a ultra-conservative institution with ultra conservative rules. Any idiot can obstruct the fuck out of absolutely everything with those advantages in place. The only requirement is to be a completely unprincipled and shameless bad-faith asshole, and that describes nearly every Republican office holder.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2023 • 5:54:40pm

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t know why people would be upset about this. That’s pretty tame for Nebraska. The bull didn’t hurt anyone.

There is a law requiring a brand inspection certificate for cattle requiring branding. There is also a law requiring proper care of transporting livestock which carries a misdemeanour penalty, so I guess this guy is going to pay a fine.

And you know that bull want wearing a seat belt how? It looked safely contained to me. Happy, too!

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2023 • 7:42:55pm

re: #227 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

On the McConnel thing: it’s simple, really.

Old age has finally got him.

I don’t rejoice at that.

And frankly, I’m worried KY will send another Rand Paul type as his replacement.

Still, the McConnell episode shines a light on just how badly the Senate needs reform.

It was created as a compromise.

It was never intended to be a House of Lords with doddering old farts who stay in there until they die.

On the other hand, it was never prevented from being a House of Lords with doddering old farts who stay in there until they die.


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