Video: Great White Shark Run Out of Town by Seal Gang

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Here’s something you don’t see every day, as a rambunctious mob of seals turns the tables on an enormous great white shark. The shark clearly thought it was at the all you can eat seal buffet, but it turns into a humiliating rout. Team seal!

Off the coast of South Africa, seals risk their lives every time they go to eat. But in recent years, they’ve developed a behaviour to protect themselves from one of the most fearsome predators of the ocean – the Great White Shark.

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319 comments

Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Dec 4, 2023 • 5:11:58pm

Now only if they killed/ate it instead of driving it away. Talk about your apex predator reversal.

William Lewis Dec 4, 2023 • 5:15:33pm

I’d be more impressed/worried if the Penguins started doing the same thing 😉

mmmirele Dec 4, 2023 • 5:16:26pm

Well, apparently the orcas in South African waters are also hunting great white sharks, and the sharks are seeking different hunting grounds.

sciencealert.com

Unfortunately, the orcas aren’t eating the great whites, only eviscerating them and taking their livers.

Charles Johnson Dec 4, 2023 • 5:16:27pm

So Trump is now inciting violence against poll workers and voters.

He knows his more fanatical followers will hear his comments about “guarding the vote” as a call to arms, and in open carry states that will be taken very literally.

It’s so fucking dangerous. And he fucking knows it.

🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈 Dec 4, 2023 • 5:20:11pm

re: #3 mmmirele

Well, apparently the orcas in South African waters are also hunting great white sharks, and the sharks are seeking different hunting grounds.

sciencealert.com

Unfortunately, the orcas aren’t eating the great whites, only eviscerating them and taking their livers.

You take what you need, and leave the rest for scavengers.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 5:21:56pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

What really hurts is knowing I have relatives stupid enough to do anything Trump commands. Even after what happened to one of them when he went to DC in 2001 they still will do whatever Trump wants because their Pulpit Pimps have brainwashed them into believing Trump is Gawd’s Anointed King.

jaunte Dec 4, 2023 • 5:25:20pm

@kevinmkruse.bsky.social

It’s been hilariously sad to watch Republicans puzzle through the aspects of Biden’s parenting that they find completely alien to their own experiences.

Bewildered by “father tells his screwup son he still loves him unconditionally” and now puzzled by “child repays a financial debt to parent”

(((Archangel1))) Dec 4, 2023 • 5:25:46pm

A great thread that sheds some much-needed light, using data reported to the UN by the Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health, on how Hamas has been manipulating fatality reports coming out of Gaza by the thousands.

🧵Critical Thread. Close review of Gaza casualty figures reported by UN OCHA based on daily Hamas “Ministry of Health” numbers proves they are FALSIFIED. Women & children are grossly inflated. This is easily proven but media ignores. See detailed expose below: 1/

— Aizenberg (@Aizenberg55) December 4, 2023

It first becomes apparent on Oct 19 reporting where Hamas reports 3,785 deaths vs 3,478 prior day or +307. But children killed magically move up from 853 to 1,524 or +671. Oct 18 reporting deaths were 25% children but next day it jumps to 40%! UN published detail is below: 4/ pic.twitter.com/rx12in1ZfJ

— Aizenberg (@Aizenberg55) December 4, 2023

Oct 26 Hamas reported 7,028 fatalities vs 6,547 prior day or +481. Remarkably women & children killed jump by +626 that same day! (See my math in blue below). No men died that day apparently. Again, no hint of shame or skepticism by UN to publish these Hamas numbers. 6/ pic.twitter.com/DrWkHvztN3

— Aizenberg (@Aizenberg55) December 4, 2023

According to Hamas, on October 19, there were 307 total deaths in Gaza, of which 671 were children.
And no, folks, that’s not a f*cking typo. Nor the only inconsistency. But it absolutely should have been the first time those with access to the data called attention to it.

That Hamas is an unreliable mass-murdering terror entity lying out of its ass should come as a surprise to no one. What is, IMO, is the fact that far too many supposedly reliable international organizations, state reps & news agencies had access to this data and its inconsistencies since October and never thought to do the oh so basic check to see if it’s in any way accurate.
I mean, on three separate sample dates, Hamas reported alleged deaths with the details of the deaths exceeding it by hundreds. With subsequent dates building on top of that.
Every news agency and global organization that reported the figures as gospel truth has some explainin’ to do - cause either they failed some really basic-level checks, or they saw it was BS & ran with it anyway.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 5:27:16pm

re: #7 jaunte

Just waiting for Comer Pyle’s kids to write their Daddy Dearest books…

jaunte Dec 4, 2023 • 5:28:44pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon ✅

I haven’t been following this particular play very closely, but I guess Comer is trying to sell the debt repayment as suspicious-unto-impeachment level crime.

Charles Johnson Dec 4, 2023 • 5:32:01pm

I can’t affect what’s happening in Israel and Gaza, but I see way too many people willing to uncritically accept Hamas propaganda, even though it’s coming from one of the most extreme and homicidal movements on Earth.

mmmirele Dec 4, 2023 • 5:32:02pm

re: #5 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

You take what you need, and leave the rest for scavengers.

This is true. I learned years ago that the dead carcasses of whales sink to the bottom of the vasty deep, where they become the hosts of ecosystems that can last decades, even 100 years.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 5:32:47pm

re: #10 jaunte

FAUX, Snoozemax and OANN are beating the impeachment drum 24/7. To them anything Joe does is an impeachable offense.

jaunte Dec 4, 2023 • 5:37:12pm

Grudgie the Whale @grudgie.bsky.social

Father’s Day gifts are going to get catalogued and it’s going to be hilarious

@kevinmkruse.bsky.social

“Mr. Biden, this necktie is objectively hideous and yet, according to this thank you note — a note which handwriting experts have CONFIRMED was written by you in the spring of 1983 — you told your son it was ‘beautiful’ and you ‘loved it.’

“Do you expect this august committee to buy that lie?!”

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 5:40:16pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I’ve had to block a few folks on Mastodon because they were saying Hamas was “righteous in fighting back against their occupiers.” You can’t teach the deliberately stupid.

Vicious Babushka Dec 4, 2023 • 5:41:46pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I can’t affect what’s happening in Israel and Gaza, but I see way too many people willing to uncritically accept Hamas propaganda, even though it’s coming from one of the most extreme and homicidal movements on Earth.

Remember 20 years ago, when we used to laugh about “Pallywood” and their crude methods & crappy production values? Well, they have improved their methods so that now entire supposedly “intellectual” populations hang on to their every word, while telling people “do not trust anything you hear from the Zionist media!”

A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Dec 4, 2023 • 5:44:52pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I can’t affect what’s happening in Israel and Gaza, but I see way too many people willing to uncritically accept Hamas propaganda, even though it’s coming from one of the most extreme and homicidal movements on Earth.

TBF, most of them probably don’t know that “Palestinian Health Authority” (I don’t remember exactly what they call themselves) is Hamas. Certainly the media aren’t falling over themselves to make it clear. The only people who fairly consistently do so are the BBC announcers. And NPR, sometimes, although they’re a distant second.

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 5:46:58pm

Vicious Babushka Dec 4, 2023 • 5:47:24pm

This is great news. I have avoided The Forward because of their paywall.

Mastodon

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 5:58:15pm

LA Republican arrested in airport on Jan. 6 charges

Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) officials arrested Los Angeles County Republican Party official Siaka Massaquoi last week in Los Angeles International Airport on misdemeanor charges related to his participation in the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, LA Times reports .

Per the report, “Authorities raided Massaquoi’s North Hollywood home in June 2021 because of his associations on ‘a social media app,’ a law enforcement source said at the time. Massaquoi posted an Instagram video after the raid in which he said, “I did nothing wrong on the 6th … did nothing violent.”

More than two years later, the columnist for right-wing news outlet Red State recently took to Twitter/X to share a video “of a livestream from inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, writing: ‘Witness why I was raided 2 years ago and recently arrested and charged Nov 30th 2023 almost 3 years later.’”

The 71-second video shared by Massaquoi on Saturday appears to show him holding his phone up to record or stream video among about a dozen protesters, some with their faces covered or wearing Trump 2020 hats, crowded at the threshold of a door into the Capitol. Dozens of Capitol Police officers, many in riot gear, fill the hallway and appear to be trying to get the Trump supporters out of the building. Some of those in the video say they are ‘trying’ to leave but are blocked by the crowds .

Massaquoi’s charges include “trespassing, disorderly conduct and parading or demonstrating in a Capitol building, and he was held in jail overnight and released on a $1,000 bond Friday, Red State reported,” according to the LA Times.

alternet.org

Patricia Kayden Dec 4, 2023 • 6:00:23pm

Decatur Deb Dec 4, 2023 • 6:01:29pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon ✅

I think this is the subject of a meme in circulation, thanking Michael Johnson for releasing the videotapes for crowdsourced narcing.

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 6:02:52pm

It’s very rare for a cartoon to feel so personal, but this one does…

William Lewis Dec 4, 2023 • 6:05:43pm

re: #23 darthstar

It’s very rare for a cartoon to feel so personal, but this one does…

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Heh. Could make that about me if you put a Clash t-shirt on the Old Fart instead ;)

Dave In Austin Dec 4, 2023 • 6:08:23pm

Rachel….

What a great lead in.

This is going to be interesting.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 6:09:18pm

‘She’s gone’: Insiders say Michigan GOPers are rebelling against chair Kristina Karamo

Momentum is building to kick out controversial Michigan Republican Party chair Kristina Karamo, according to a report Monday.

A majority of the GOP’s state committee skipped a virtual meeting she had convened and instead took part in another organized by a group of discontented party leaders, leaving Karamo unable to achieve the quorum required to conduct business, reported MLive .

“This is the first time ever she’s not in the majority,” said Warren Carpenter, an Oakland County Republican who resigned as 9th congressional district chair to protest her leadership.

State committee members have filed a petition for a special meeting Dec. 27, where they believe they’ll have enough votes to remove Karamo , who they blame for a steep drop in fundraising and intra-party quarrels.

“We’re going to be able to vacate her at our next meeting,” Carpenter said. “She’s gone.”

Karamo’s opponents don’t have enough petition signatures to force a removal vote, but Carpenter said they may try to change party bylaws to bring down the threshold for removal from 75 percent to 60 percent which he said would get them close to ousting her.

mlive.com

Vicious Babushka Dec 4, 2023 • 6:11:40pm

Mastodon

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 6:13:39pm

re: #24 William Lewis

Heh. Could make that about me if you put a Clash t-shirt on the Old Fart instead ;)

I used to buy weed (before it became legal) from a guy who sold out of the patio of a gay bar in the Castro. They had an internet juke-box, so for two credits I could pull down a 23 minute Dark Star or some long Allman Brothers jams. Now I knew how long it would take for those songs to show up, so I’d put on a Bowie song or Prince ahead so they’d have time to download and get in the queue…then I’d take my weed and leave as the first notes came on…

Vicious Babushka Dec 4, 2023 • 6:15:28pm

My son-in-law is in charge of Colel Chabad activities in Jerusalem.

Mastodon

Charles Johnson Dec 4, 2023 • 6:15:33pm

Do yourself a favor, baby, and be groovy.

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 6:16:30pm

I’d like Rachel to stop talking about having Liz Cheney on her show and just fuckin’ bring her on already. Her need for a 15 minute lede into her scoop is unnecessary and actually rude to her guest.

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 6:17:54pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Do yourself a favor, baby, and be groovy.

Charles Johnson Dec 4, 2023 • 6:18:54pm

Peace, baby.

Captain Ron Dec 4, 2023 • 6:19:13pm

They invited the resistance to their party. @MrScarce https://t.co/t1HC1hnMZu

— Crooks and Liars (@crooksandliars) December 4, 2023

Twenty-four Russian troops were killed after being given poison-laced food by “two nice girls” at a military checkpoint in Simferopol, Crimea, according to reports.

Unverified reports on Russian media channels said two partisans approached the soldiers with vodka, fish, sausage, bread, and cheese.

“They told the guards that they wanted to thank our boys for everything, for protecting them,” a source told the Telegram channel Kremlin Snuffbox, which posted the information on Dec. 1.

“The guys took vodka and food, drank with their colleagues, and ate. And many were poisoned.”

The Ukrainian partisan group Crimean Combat Seagulls later confirmed the news, saying that in addition to the 24 Russian soldiers killed, 11 more were hospitalized.

In a post on Telegram, the group said that “nice girls” welcomed the soldiers with “goodies” to eat. “The arsenic and strychnine tasted unforgettable.”

jaunte Dec 4, 2023 • 6:22:03pm

re: #34 Captain Ron

Beware the readers of history.

Freddie and Truus Oversteegen

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 6:28:43pm

Steve Bannon: Non-Christian nationalists ‘all have to be purged’ in Trump’s second term

Right-wing podcast host Steve Bannon called for a purging of people who are not Christian nationalists if Donald Trump wins a second term as president.

On his Monday War Room broadcast, Bannon celebrated author Tim Alberta’s warnings about Christian nationalism on MSNBC.

“When you begin to think of America as almost this covenant nation, that God has ordained us, God has blessed us, and you are fighting for God by fighting for America, that is Christian nationalism, and that is what has infected much of the church today,” Alberta told the hosts of Morning Joe .

“Sign me up,” Bannon reacted. “I mean, I think this is the best recruiting pitch I’ve heard.”

Bannon’s guest, (WHO ELSE BUT) My Pillow CEO and election denier Mike Lindell, called Alberta’s MSNBC appearance “amazing.”

“A nation had turned its back on God, and God’s given us grace right now for such a time as this for the greatest revival in history,” Lindell said.

Bannon compared Trump to Roman dictator Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

“Trump’s the American Cincinnatus has come back to fight all this,” he remarked. “This is why they’re trying to throw him in prison.”

The War Room host vowed to play the clip of Alberta all day.

“He’s saying the problem in the church — think about that — the problem we have in the church is people love the country too much. No, dude, that’s not the problem,” Bannon insisted. “That’s the sick, twisted people that watch MSNBC that must be defeated so they no longer can infest the government of this country.”

“They all have to be purged,” he added. “Purged. Right. Anybody who would think that was bad has to be purged.”

rawstory.com

sagehen Dec 4, 2023 • 6:30:04pm

re: #25 Dave In Austin

Rachel….

What a great lead in.

This is going to be interesting.

“I disagree with her about everything. I even disagree with her about fishing, which is the one area you might have thought we’d find common ground.”

wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 6:30:43pm

Mastodon

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 6:38:57pm

Yep.

Dave In Austin Dec 4, 2023 • 6:41:55pm

re: #37 sagehen

“I disagree with her about everything. I even disagree with her about fishing, which is the one area you might have thought we’d find common ground.”

Rachel will be fishing new water after runoff next year. Count on it.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 6:44:21pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Yep.

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Oh I remember how Sleazy E said he was going to build a complete system for Los Angeles within a year…

Jay C Dec 4, 2023 • 6:48:09pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon ✅

re: #36 Joe Bacon ✅

Well, leaning on “Christian nationalism” (i.e. theocratic fascism with a smiley-face on it) doesn’t seem to be actually all that popular a rallying-point: from the mlive.com link re the MI GOP’s woes:

Hassan Mehme, the coalitions vice-chair, will be chairing the special meeting later this month. He had previously spoken to MLive about his frustration toward his party, which he sees as leaning in on Christian nationalism under Karamo. The party’s storied Mackinac Republican Leadership Conference featured a lineup stacked with fringe Christian thought leaders

That point is well-buried near the end of the piece, but is the only clue as to exactly what the internal issues are in the Michigan party - which (fortunately for the state) doesn’t bode well for their prospects: especially as the MI Democrats, under Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s leadership, seem to have gotten their act together

I just have to wonder (rotten-ass Steve Bannon’s whoop-te-doo notwithstanding) how well going bigtime into Jump-For-Jesus Fascism is really going to play outside of the already (disgracefully large) primed “fringe” in the already-reliable Red States….

sizzzzlerz Dec 4, 2023 • 6:48:14pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon ✅

Oh I remember how Sleazy E said he was going to build a complete system for Los Angeles within a year…

Was he going to get Mexico to pay for it?

Dangerman Dec 4, 2023 • 6:53:03pm

re: #23 darthstar

It’s very rare for a cartoon to feel so personal, but this one does…

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I know what you mean

Nerdy Fish Dec 4, 2023 • 6:54:49pm

re: #42 Jay C

I just have to wonder (rotten-ass Steve Bannon’s whoop-te-doo notwithstanding) how well going bigtime into Jump-For-Jesus Fascism is really going to play outside of the already (disgracefully large) primed “fringe” in the already-reliable Red States….

It isn’t. As you point out, the Christofascists are already in the tank for Trump. Outside of that, Christian nationalism just doesn’t play well. Right-leaning but not yet full fascist Christians like issues like abortion, transgender bans, book bans, and such - in the abstract. talking about all the people they want to “purge” is going to make these less hardcore Christians squeamish. While I doubt any of them would vote for Biden, I’d wager a fair number of them might think about staying home if the Republicans nominate a multiple convict who espouses from the campaign platform that he wants to eradicate non-fascists.

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 6:56:01pm

re: #44 Dangerman

I know what you mean

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Hear me out, this is an unsigned integer situation, so pineapple on pizza wraps around and becomes awesome.

sizzzzlerz Dec 4, 2023 • 6:59:55pm

Sigh…

Dangerman Dec 4, 2023 • 7:00:19pm

re: #36 Joe Bacon ✅

“When you begin to think of America as almost this covenant nation, that God has ordained us, God has blessed us, and you are fighting for God by fighting for America, that is Christian nationalism, and that is what has infected much of the church today,” Alberta told the hosts of Morning Joe .

rawstory.com

We’re not and never was

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 7:00:54pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

Hear me out, this is an unsigned integer situation, pineapple on pizza wraps around and becomes awesome.

There is one and only one proper place for pineapples—Dad’s Pineapple Upside Down cakes he made in his iron skillet!

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 7:01:32pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon ✅

There is one and only one proper place for pineapples—Dad’s Pineapple Upside Down cakes he made in his iron skillet!

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I respect your right to be wrong.

mmmirele Dec 4, 2023 • 7:02:15pm

re: #44 Dangerman

I know what you mean

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My mother snapped the spaghetti because she didn’t want us playing with it at the dinner table. I still snap the spaghetti.

William Lewis Dec 4, 2023 • 7:02:58pm

re: #44 Dangerman

I know what you mean

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I’m guilty of 3 out of 4 ;)

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:06:13pm

How does a tissue dance?

It gets its boogey on.

Jay C Dec 4, 2023 • 7:08:52pm

re: #44 Dangerman

I know what you mean

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Agree with the cartoon somewhat: snapping spaghetti, IMHO, ought to be done only for having to fit it in a narrow pot (which is why we got a large oval pasta pot - everything fits longwise). Ketchup, though…..*

* I’m Taking The Fifth here: the Mrs. has always liked it: I dare say no more…

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 7:09:33pm

re: #51 mmmirele

My mother snapped the spaghetti because she didn’t want us playing with it at the dinner table. I still snap the spaghetti.

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 7:10:45pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

Cooking spaghetti in a thimble for the lulz.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 7:15:53pm

ah but there isn’t nothing like picking that fresh spaghetti off the tree! 😏

Panorama April Fool s Day Hoax Spaghetti Harvest 1st April 1957

jaunte Dec 4, 2023 • 7:16:07pm

@kenwhite.bsky.social

Alina Habba should be disbarred. And it’s now plausible she will be. Not because the state bars are particularly great at what they do, but because she strayed into one of the areas they care about — interference with another attorney’s representation.

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:17:47pm

Today I skied through a very similar scene, lots of people on the struggle bus skiing through the deep heavy snow.

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 7:20:02pm

re: #37 sagehen

“I disagree with her about everything. I even disagree with her about fishing, which is the one area you might have thought we’d find common ground.”

The lede was more informative than the interview. It felt like the interview fell a little flat. There were so many potential items to discuss it would have been better to spend the whole hour talking through them a couple of minutes each - could have covered 15-20 major highlights from the book. But she wasted 15 minutes talking about how much they disagreed on EVERYTHING and another 10 minutes summarizing the book before the commercial break before the interview.

She could have spent three minutes explaining how much they disagreed and her audience would have gotten it.

retired cynic Dec 4, 2023 • 7:21:57pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon ✅

There is one and only one proper place for pineapples—Dad’s Pineapple Upside Down cakes he made in his iron skillet!

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Mmmm, that looks like my mother’s pineapple upside down cake — it was SO good~

bratwurst Dec 4, 2023 • 7:22:28pm

Can someone wake me when the Liz Cheney book tour is over?

If you want to admire her for having pro-democratic principles that people used to consider entry-level qualifications for a career in politics, I will not stand in your way.

However, do not for a single moment try to convince me that she wrote this book as part of her ongoing effort to stop Trumpism. In reality, she wrote it to sell to liberals as a Christmas gift.

I am not going to sit here and pretend to know how best to end this serious threat that Trump poses to civilization as we know it. Having said that, I am sure that selling books to Rachel Maddow viewers is not it.

cat-tikvah Dec 4, 2023 • 7:22:56pm

Antisemitic protest outside falafel restaurant in Philly gets wide notice.
Fetterman and Casey - our US senators - also condemned the action.
And Governor Shapiro.

White House condemns antisemitic protest outside restaurant in Philly

“It is Antisemitic and completely unjustifiable to target restaurants that serve Israeli food over disagreements with Israeli policy, as Governor Shapiro has underlined,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement. “This behavior reveals the kind of cruel and senseless double standard that is a calling card of Antisemitism.”
“President Biden has fought against the evil of Antisemitism his entire life, including by launching the first national strategy to counter this hate in American history,” Bates added. “He will always stand up firmly against these kinds of undignified actions.”
The protest also drew pushback from Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D), who called it a “blatant act of antisemitism.”
“A restaurant was targeted and mobbed because its owner is Jewish and Israeli. This hate and bigotry is reminiscent of a dark time in history,” Shapiro wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

thehill.com

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 7:24:10pm

re: #61 retired cynic

Mmmm, that looks like my mother’s pineapple upside down cake — it was SO good~

Dad spent years perfecting his formula for making the perfect pineapple upside down cake with Swans Down cake flour. He’d pull the finished cake out of the oven flip it onto a serving dish and let it cool. cut into the pineapple rings and dad used enough brown sugar to make those pineapple rings real crispy!

So Cal Greek Hippie Dec 4, 2023 • 7:24:41pm

Catching up:

On Grateful Dead jukebox selections: Hell yes! I play guitar waiting for my too frequent local restaurant home deliveries including a lot of Dead songs. I get a lot of who is that — it’s a great song from younger kids. Like Garfield without Garfield my versions do not include a prolonged jam session

On pineapple: Had a native Hawaiian as 3 & 4 grade teacher and she set us up both years with a luau including pineapples , which kicked off a lifelong love of that stuff in all forms and combinations

On animals: see photo of Luke

in a very nice hotel shower

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 7:24:52pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

Today I skied through a very similar scene, lots of people on the struggle bus skiing through the deep heavy snow.

We called that Sierra Cement when I was growing up. Oh look, powder! But no, it was high moisture content heavy snow that clung to the bottom of your skis and anchored your legs with the additional weight. The good news is that it will freeze and make a solid base, except on east and west facing slopes where it will make for good slab avalanches.

Dangerman Dec 4, 2023 • 7:24:56pm

re: #51 mmmirele

My mother snapped the spaghetti because she didn’t want us playing with it at the dinner table. I still snap the spaghetti.

It’s not a deal breaker.
Just… questionable

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 7:26:35pm

Twice cooked pork loin medallions with dijon-cream sauce over risotto with mushrooms, leek and fennel.

Apologies for the sloppy plating.

Captain Ron Dec 4, 2023 • 7:28:24pm

Home explodes as VA SWAT serves warrant after suspect fired flare gun: copshttps://t.co/i3CEAl7Li4

— Raw Story (@RawStory) December 5, 2023

Captain Ron Dec 4, 2023 • 7:30:47pm

BREAKING: House explodes when police approach Arlington, VA home to execute search warrant pic.twitter.com/jJm2yyDKXL

— BNO News (@BNONews) December 5, 2023

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:31:38pm

re: #66 darthstar

We called that Sierra Cement when I was growing up. Oh look, powder! But no, it was high moisture content heavy snow that clung to the bottom of your skis and anchored your legs with the additional weight. The good news is that it will freeze and make a solid base, except on east and west facing slopes where it will make for good slab avalanches.

Definitely good *base* snow. But we already have a sugary layer that fell in October in the backcountry, the snowpack is already setting up to favor deep persistent slab problems, the killer avalanches that hit in February March and April. The curse of the inner mountain west snowpack. It’s killed friends of mine.

Dangerman Dec 4, 2023 • 7:35:46pm

Comer: You can loan people money but if they pay you back then you benefitted directly pic.twitter.com/tW0knqz5Dn

— Acyn (@Acyn) December 5, 2023

Ass
Hat

wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 7:43:20pm

re: #68 darthstar

Twice cooked pork loin medallions with dijon-cream sauce over risotto with mushrooms, leek and fennel.

Apologies for the sloppy plating.

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Square plates. Just toss some food on, and it’s plated.

—assertion based only on me wanting to see more square plates

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:45:15pm

re: #72 Dangerman

I’ve borrowed money from my sister and I had to pay it back.

ASS. HAT.

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:46:50pm

Some *real* hippy shit…

Elmer’s Revenge

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 7:47:06pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

Square plates. Just toss some food on, and it’s plated.

—assertion based only on me wanting to see more square plates

I don’t like square plates. If god wanted us to use square plates he wouldn’t have invented round ones.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Dec 4, 2023 • 7:48:03pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon ✅

‘She’s gone’: Insiders say Michigan GOPers are rebelling against chair Kristina Karamo

Momentum is building to kick out controversial Michigan Republican Party chair Kristina Karamo, according to a report Monday.

A majority of the GOP’s state committee skipped a virtual meeting she had convened and instead took part in another organized by a group of discontented party leaders, leaving Karamo unable to achieve the quorum required to conduct business, reported MLive .

“This is the first time ever she’s not in the majority,” said Warren Carpenter, an Oakland County Republican who resigned as 9th congressional district chair to protest her leadership.

State committee members have filed a petition for a special meeting Dec. 27, where they believe they’ll have enough votes to remove Karamo , who they blame for a steep drop in fundraising and intra-party quarrels.

“We’re going to be able to vacate her at our next meeting,” Carpenter said. “She’s gone.”

Karamo’s opponents don’t have enough petition signatures to force a removal vote, but Carpenter said they may try to change party bylaws to bring down the threshold for removal from 75 percent to 60 percent which he said would get them close to ousting her.

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Even within their party if they can’t win a vote they see about changing the rules of the contest in order to get their “win”.

darthstar Dec 4, 2023 • 7:49:46pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Some *real* hippy shit…

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Here’s someone to follow - Mike Babyak - he posts the ‘daily Kimock’…he also posts occasional guitar exercises.

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William Lewis Dec 4, 2023 • 7:51:39pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Some *real* hippy shit…

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That’s gallon of moonshine AND an once of good reefer stuff…

sagehen Dec 4, 2023 • 7:52:14pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

It’s to keep that insufferable couple you invited to dinner from trying to Lady & The Tramp it. Nobody wants to see that.

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 7:57:09pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

Right there with you. Kind of ruins the whole spaghetti thing when every piece of pasta is broken in half.

Dad preferred thick pastas like linguine and fettuccini, I could never cook him angel hair, not in a million years. Regular spaghetti was barely tolerable.

Well, he’s across the universe somewhere, I guess, so Mom and I will enjoy a fuckton of angel hair pasta going forward.

Belafon Dec 4, 2023 • 8:00:20pm

re: #44 Dangerman

I know what you mean

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teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 8:03:23pm

I love angel hair pasta. Cooks quickly, absorbs the sauce like a magnet, and yes I like the texture, noodles galore! This was something Dad and I clashed on.

C’est la vie.

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 8:03:42pm

re: #80 sagehen

It’s to keep that insufferable couple you invited to dinner from trying to Lady & The Tramp it. Nobody wants to see that.

OK, so you know what, fair. I want to apologize to all the spaghetti breakers out there because I clearly wasn’t gaming this shit out properly.

Belafon Dec 4, 2023 • 8:07:03pm

re: #70 Captain Ron

It’s a boy! Congratulations!

— D. Samuel 🇮🇱 🇺🇦 (@metsjetsnetsnj) December 5, 2023

BeenHereAwhile Dec 4, 2023 • 8:07:32pm

re: #32 darthstar

FEELING’ GROOVY

I say please,
Don’t drop that H-Bomb on me.
Go drop it on yourself.

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 8:10:07pm

re: #79 William Lewis

That’s gallon of moonshine AND an ~~once~~ ounce of good reefer stuff…

FTFY

Ha ha ha. Maybe. It’s also fun to listen to for us hippy heads like me and darthstar, and we’re not drinking a gallon of moonshine and smoking an ounce of good reefer to enjoy this stuff. I listen to a lot of this stuff sober and am fully engaged for the 17 minute jams. I have Umphrey’s McGee’s logo tattooed on my leg.

Patricia Kayden Dec 4, 2023 • 8:11:11pm

re: #62 bratwurst

Well, I’m glad Liz is speaking out about the dangers of a Trump reelection. However, if she isn’t planning to campaign for President Biden, writing a book isn’t enough. We already know that he’s a danger.

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 8:11:45pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

I love angel hair pasta. Cooks quickly, absorbs the sauce like a magnet, and yes I like the texture, noodles galore! This was something Dad and I clashed on.

C’est la vie.

Gemelli FTW because it mirrors the double helix of DNA the molecule of life in this essay I will …

wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 8:13:47pm

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 4, 2023 • 8:21:02pm

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

Well, I’m glad Liz is speaking out about the dangers of a Trump reelection. However, if she isn’t planning to campaign for President Biden, writing a book isn’t enough. We already know that he’s a danger.

She may very well campaign for Biden — but my guess is that it will have virtually no impact. It will not persuade any loyal Republicans to switch but there may be those purity ponies who will argue that proves that Biden is worse than Trump because Ms. Darth Cheney approves of him. She has been written out of the Republican Party.

BeenHereAwhile Dec 4, 2023 • 8:21:57pm

re: #34 Captain Ron

Twenty-four Russian troops were killed after being given poison-laced food by “two nice girls” at a military checkpoint in Simferopol, Crimea, according to reports.

Ukraine pro Russian female agents did the same during WWII German occupation to disrupt efforts by anti Russian Ukrainians to ally with German occupation as a means to get Russia out of Ukraine.

The Russians have always been good as using disruption as a political tool.

Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 4, 2023 • 8:22:23pm

goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 8:27:25pm

re: #91 Hecuba’s daughter

She may very well campaign for Biden — but my guess is that it will have virtually no impact. It will not persuade any loyal Republicans to switch but there may be those purity ponies who will argue that proves that Biden is worse than Trump because Ms. Darth Cheney approves of him. She has been written out of the Republican Party.

I don’t disagree but this also only illustrates how much the modern GOP has become a No True Scotsman situation beholden far more to the expediency of the moment than it ever was to purported idealistic principles concerning individual liberty or economic prosperity.

teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 8:29:36pm

Umphrey’s McGee: The Triple Wide 12/28/13

EPR-radar Dec 4, 2023 • 8:35:02pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

I don’t disagree but this also only illustrates how much the modern GOP has become a No True Scotsman situation beholden far more to the expediency of the moment than it ever was to purported idealistic principles concerning individual liberty or economic prosperity.

The GOP is an unholy turducken of an organized crime syndicate, a religious cult and the DPRK ministry of truth.

Hecuba's daughter Dec 4, 2023 • 8:35:45pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

I don’t disagree but this also only illustrates how much the modern GOP has become a No True Scotsman situation beholden far more to the expediency of the moment than it ever was to purported idealistic principles concerning individual liberty or economic prosperity.

Just a reminder: SNL routine “Republican or Not” directly applicable to the Cheney discussion

Republican or Not - SNL

Rightwingconspirator Dec 4, 2023 • 8:40:00pm

re: #8 (((Archangel1)))

Bravo. Come what may, truth beats fiction

The Ghost of a Flea Dec 4, 2023 • 8:40:25pm

re: #96 EPR-radar

The GOP is an unholy turducken of an organized crime syndicate, a religious cult and the DPRK ministry of truth.

By whatever means they will have their pyramid-shaped redistribution scheme.

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teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 8:47:52pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

I was in the audience. It was glorious.

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goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 8:48:38pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

By whatever means they will have their pyramid-shaped redistribution scheme.

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wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 8:51:09pm

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teleskiguy Dec 4, 2023 • 8:54:16pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 8:57:54pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

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Belafon Dec 4, 2023 • 9:04:06pm

A truck went off the highway in Dallas and what saved him is that he got wedged between I35 and a ramp:

wfaa.com

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The Ghost of a Flea Dec 4, 2023 • 9:07:18pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

I feel like the people building AI want to have conversations about the ethics of their future superintelligences because the alternative is awkward questions about how they plan to solve problems with present devices that are black boxes and don’t have ~~efficacy~~ fidelity.

“We have to make sure it uses it’s amazing power to solve the right problems” is a very telling thing to emphasize when the thing in question doesn’t understand what truth is.

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goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 9:10:37pm

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

I feel like the people building AI want to have conversations about the ethics of their future superintelligences because the alternative is awkward questions about how they plan to solve problems with present devices that are black boxes and don’t have efficacy.

“We have to make sure it uses it’s amazing power to solve the right problems” is a very telling thing to emphasize when the thing in question doesn’t understand what truth is.

Also, more to the point, when they don’t actually care what truth is, or, very likely, view truth as an obstacle.

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wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 9:11:20pm

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Ace Rothstein Dec 4, 2023 • 9:12:55pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon ✅

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William Lewis Dec 4, 2023 • 9:16:06pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

Also, more to the point, when they don’t actually care what truth is, or, more likely, view truth as an obstacle.

More like the classic jurassic park meme, they were too preoccupied with making it work to wonder about if they should make it work.

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Captain Ron Dec 4, 2023 • 9:18:30pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

Is that an e-bike or does it have an internally geared hub?

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The Ghost of a Flea Dec 4, 2023 • 9:20:13pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

Also, more to the point, when they don’t actually care what truth is, or, more likely, view truth as an obstacle.

I’m referring to how the neural network just doesn’t know what “truth” is such that it will create simulacra—like fake citations or meaningless equations—“solve” problems using heuristics that void the point of the exercise, and blindly replicate bias present in the data set.

The owners of AI systems don’t care about truth…they’re auditioning to be priests…but they’re specifically thrusting the conversation into the future where AI must be assumed to not have fidelity issues, because no ones want to admit they’re just building Zardoz—things that reflect back what’s put in them—and the critical value proposition in the short term is not for thinking machines but for the image of objective calculation.

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retired cynic Dec 4, 2023 • 9:21:31pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

no no no no

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sagehen Dec 4, 2023 • 9:22:17pm

so I watched Doctor Who Special 2 (“Wild Blue Yonder”) — I score it 7 out of 10.

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wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 9:28:26pm

re: #112 Captain Ron

Is that an e-bike or does it have an internally geared hub?

Looks like the latter. Could it be both?

That video you posted about incompatibility between ebikes was good. It’s a cyclical phenomenon in the industry. If I had an editor, would that sentence be posted?

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wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 9:30:01pm

re: #114 retired cynic

no no no no

With shoes like that, you need a bike to get anywhere.

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goddamnedfrank Dec 4, 2023 • 9:31:21pm

re: #113 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m referring to how the neural network just doesn’t know what “truth” is such that it will create simulacra—like fake citations or meaningless equations—“solve” problems using heuristics that void the point of the exercise, and blindly replicate bias present in the data set.

The owners of AI systems don’t care about truth…they’re auditioning to be priests…but they’re specifically thrusting the conversation into the future where AI must be assumed to not have fidelity issues, because no ones want to admit they’re just building Zardoz—things that reflect back what’s put in them—and the critical value proposition in the short term is not for thinking machines but for the image of objective calculation.

Which, honestly, we’ve actually been dealing with for quite a long time with algorithmic FICO scores and sentencing guidelines, which only came into being when redlining was outlawed and more scrutiny was brought bear upon racism within the criminal justice system.

Again, I have to thank you for presenting that Sophie from Mars video awhile back and exposing me to the whole Frontiers of Credibility concept, because it really crystalized the endgame in a way that’s so obvious in retrospect that I’m almost embarrassed to say I didn’t see before.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Dec 4, 2023 • 9:39:01pm

re: #113 The Ghost of a Flea

The owners of AI systems don’t care about truth…they’re auditioning to be priests…but they’re specifically thrusting the conversation into the future where AI must be assumed to not have fidelity issues, because no ones want to admit they’re just building Zardoz—things that reflect back what’s put in them—and the critical value proposition in the short term is not for thinking machines but for the image of objective calculation.

Did you watch the UCTV video I posted last week, about “AI” and how we should deal with it? See:

Data Dignity and the Inversion of AI

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wrenchwench Dec 4, 2023 • 9:46:02pm

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mmmirele Dec 4, 2023 • 9:48:34pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

We played with the spaghetti, mostly slurping, but also wrapping it around our forks, throwing it at our siblings, etc., etc. My mother was trying to raise well-behaved children and snapping the spaghetti was part of her campaign.

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Belafon Dec 4, 2023 • 10:36:19pm

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

I feel like the people building AI want to have conversations about the ethics of their future superintelligences because the alternative is awkward questions about how they plan to solve problems with present devices that are black boxes and don’t have ~~efficacy~~ fidelity.

“We have to make sure it uses it’s amazing power to solve the right problems” is a very telling thing to emphasize when the thing in question doesn’t understand what truth is.

“We have to make sure it uses it’s amazing power to solve the right problems”

Yes, don’t use a hammer as a screwdriver.

Yes, AI is a tool, not an intelligence, which is why most people in the field don’t use the term AI.

Of course there should be conversations about the ethics of using something as complex as machine learning. We’re far beyond what the how we’re going to use it phase, because they know exactly how they’re going to solve those problems with the current machine learning systems: Data and lots of it. That’s why every company is scouring every possible piece of data they can get their hands on, sometimes by taking advantage of the fact that most of us don’t read the fine print. As for understanding how it works, that part of the field has been going on since the beginning, known as interpretable machine learning (I’ve only really read about it).

I do buy that there are plenty of groups using “let’s discuss ethics” to avoid doing anything about their progress at the moment. It’s the ML equivalent of “Why should I stop pouring waste into the river if my competitor gets to keep doing it.” Google has no incentive to slow down if Microsoft isn’t going to. And, unless we’re going to grind all progress to a halt, the only thing that will currently make it better is for the big companies to feel the need to be better than the others.

I remember the other times machine learning was hyped, and mostly what we got out of it for 10 or fifteen years was simple word recognition for automated phone systems. We did get a pretty good email filter. They were limited by processing power, forcing researchers to create models of the problems to be solved, such as Bayesian networks or creating code that parsed sentences. The newer systems have removed the need to create those models, but there really is a limit to how far we can go with them.

To end my ramble, because it’s past my bedtime and I can feel it, I find ChatGPT to be an interesting case study into humans. Far too many want to use it for things it wasn’t made for. It wasn’t made to tell the truth. It was made to make something that sounded like the output of a human. I personally would have required a tutorial after you register before you can even use it.

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Belafon Dec 4, 2023 • 10:38:32pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Gotta admit I never really understood snapping the spaghetti. Like, is this an impatience situation or is your pot just that tiny? Because either way that shit will bend before the cook time is even 5% elapsed.

Easy: I’m a heathen and I don’t swirl spaghetti around my fork because it’s complicated and cheap pasta that I grew up on doesn’t work very well. So I break the pasta in half when I cook it, and then I cut it up into inch-ish long pieces when I eat it.

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retired cynic Dec 4, 2023 • 10:39:51pm

re: #123 Belafon

me 2 heathen (pagan?)

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 4, 2023 • 10:40:55pm

Strange story — random occurrence or does it mean something unsettling:

Unknown traders appear to have anticipated October 7 Hamas attack, research finds

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 4, 2023 • 10:45:28pm

re: #122 Belafon

“We have to make sure it uses it’s amazing power to solve the right problems”

Yes, don’t use a hammer as a screwdriver.

Yes, AI is a tool, not an intelligence, which is why most people in the field don’t use the term AI.

……

To end my ramble, because it’s past my bedtime and I can feel it, I find ChatGPT to be an interesting case study into humans. Far too many want to use it for things it wasn’t made for. It wasn’t made to tell the truth. It was made to make something that sounded like the output of a human. I personally would have required a tutorial after you register before you can even use it.

I’ve mentioned this before: a friend is a celebrant who conducts weddings and funerals. She has found ChatGPT to be very useful in preparing her material; it makes it a far easier process to develop a meaningful service for her clients.

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sagehen Dec 5, 2023 • 12:48:43am

no Colbert this week, all week. Because Stephen’s appendix.

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silverdolphin Dec 5, 2023 • 1:52:33am

Texas sues Pfizer with COVID anti-vax argument that is pure stupid

They do not understand math or statistics.A death cult.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 2:17:38am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

So Trump is now inciting violence against poll workers and voters.

He knows his more fanatical followers will hear his comments about “guarding the vote” as a call to arms, and in open carry states that will be taken very literally.

It’s so fucking dangerous. And he fucking knows it.

Knows it? He’s counting on it!

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 2:27:39am

re: #128 silverdolphin

Texas sues Pfizer with COVID anti-vax argument that is pure stupid

They do not understand math or statistics.A death cult.

Sadly, given some of the rulings that have come out of Texas courts in recent years, it’s at best a crap shoot whether or not Pfizer can convince the court that Paxton’s full of shit. Odds are better than even in the Age of Trump that some Federal Society jackoff will get handed the case, go glassy-eyed when venturing through the mathin’ portion of the whole mess, and just rule with “his gut” that Pfizer is guilty of not trusting people to “do their own research.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 2:38:42am

re: #76 darthstar

I don’t like square plates. If god wanted us to use square plates he wouldn’t have invented round ones.

Once you use squares plates you’ll never go back. I love them and have gotten rid of all my round ones. Plus, they look classy af!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 2:42:25am

re: #91 Hecuba’s daughter

She may very well campaign for Biden — but my guess is that it will have virtually no impact. It will not persuade any loyal Republicans to switch but there may be those purity ponies who will argue that proves that Biden is worse than Trump because Ms. Darth Cheney approves of him. She has been written out of the Republican Party.

She’s been written out of the party of trump. Remember, that’s definitely not all republicans, it’s 30ish% of republicans.

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No Malarkey! Dec 5, 2023 • 2:51:39am

re: #132 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She’s been written out of the party of trump. Remember, that’s definitely not all republicans, it’s 30ish% of republicans.

In GOP presidential polls, Trump has the support of 58% of Republicans.

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 2:54:49am

re: #130 Targetpractice

Sadly, given some of the rulings that have come out of Texas courts in recent years, it’s at best a crap shoot whether or not Pfizer can convince the court that Paxton’s full of shit. Odds are better than even in the Age of Trump that some Federal Society jackoff will get handed the case, go glassy-eyed when venturing through the mathin’ portion of the whole mess, and just rule with “his gut” that Pfizer is guilty of not trusting people to “do their own research.”

The Ars Technica article didn’t have the key detail: Where did this suit land? My bet is, they sued in ol’ Matty K.’s district, the one district they’re guaranteed to get a complete meathead of a judge who doesn’t care for science, facts, or reality - only his extreme religious views and helping his Republican friends. He’d sign his own execution order, if Ken Paxton brought it before him. That suit will end up before the Fifth Circus in a hurry, and it’s a coin flip whether they’ll enjoin Pfizer from administering their vaccine while that appeal plays out. Ugh. Conservatives: The reason why we can’t have nice things.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 2:56:22am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

In GOP presidential polls, Trump has the support of 58% of Republicans.

And republicans are 30ish% of the electorate add a whole.

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 2:57:19am

Any strategy based upon the idea that there is a significant portion of Republicans who will break ranks and support Biden next year against Trump is…foolish at best. You’d be better off gambling that they’ll stay home or vote third party than you would gambling that you can somehow appease them just enough to support a Democrat. The question you should ask is can you win enough votes appealing to warmongers or racists or social Darwinists to make up for the votes you’ll lose in your own ranks?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 3:01:30am

Par. Double whiff. That had the potential to go really wrong.

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William Lewis Dec 5, 2023 • 3:18:52am

Cool Beanz (heh)

Beans & Bees (Not Bats) Gave Us Butterflies

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Dec 5, 2023 • 3:27:09am

re: #57 Joe Bacon ✅

ah but there isn’t nothing like picking that fresh spaghetti off the tree! 😏

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Greatest April Fool joke in history! The story behind it is pretty interesting too.
Spaghetti-tree hoax
Cameraman Charles de Jaeger conceived the idea. BBC producer Michael Peacock accepted the proposal and gave de Jaeger a budget of £100. The narrator was none other than the famed war correspondent Richard Dimblebly whose well known voice gave the presentation an air of authority.

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 3:46:29am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Par. Double whiff. That had the potential to go really wrong.

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I had to stare at it for a really, really long time. Between my first and second guesses, they eliminated a lot of choices, which kind of left me stumped.

Click to Reveal

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Shropshire Slasher Dec 5, 2023 • 3:52:58am

Some bleary eyed work too much drive time music.

Marshmello, P!NK, Sting - Dreaming (Official Audio)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 3:59:29am

The pars continue.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 899 4/6

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 4:11:17am

re: #134 Nerdy Fish

The Ars Technica article didn’t have the key detail: Where did this suit land? My bet is, they sued in ol’ Matty K.’s district, the one district they’re guaranteed to get a complete meathead of a judge who doesn’t care for science, facts, or reality - only his extreme religious views and helping his Republican friends. He’d sign his own execution order, if Ken Paxton brought it before him. That suit will end up before the Fifth Circus in a hurry, and it’s a coin flip whether they’ll enjoin Pfizer from administering their vaccine while that appeal plays out. Ugh. Conservatives: The reason why we can’t have nice things.

Nah, this suit isn’t about stopping Pfizer from making/selling mRNA vaccines, it isn’t even really about Pfizer making any money from such. It’s about convincing the public that Pfizer is to blame for the red state fuckups during the pandemic, that it wasn’t their insistence on a return to “normal” to spite Biden that led to infection/hospitalization rates skyrocketing in the fall and winter of 2021, it was that Pfizer had “lied” about the vaccines granted permanent immunity to COVID in order to make money. Ignore the similar spike the previous year due to a similar push for “normal,” you’re supposed to believe that it was Pfizer “lying” about their vaccines that led to COVID running rampant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:33:14am

re: #3 mmmirele

Well, apparently the orcas in South African waters are also hunting great white sharks, and the sharks are seeking different hunting grounds.

Unfortunately, the orcas aren’t eating the great whites, only eviscerating them and taking their livers.

They recently sank a yacht and took only the fava beans and chanti from the storerooms…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:34:18am

re: #6 Joe Bacon ✅

What really hurts is knowing I have relatives stupid enough to do anything Trump commands. Even after what happened to one of them when he went to DC in 2001 they still will do whatever Trump wants because their Pulpit Pimps have brainwashed them into believing Trump is Gawd’s Anointed King.

He has already told his followers that voting is less important than preventing voter fraud, which many of them are likely to interpret as arming themselves to “police” polling places in “suspicious” neighborhoods.

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William Lewis Dec 5, 2023 • 4:36:07am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They recently sank a yacht and took only the fava beans and chanti from the storerooms…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:38:18am

re: #7 jaunte

t’s been hilariously sad to watch Republicans puzzle through the aspects of Biden’s parenting that they find completely alien to their own experiences.

There was a similar argument presented concerning the Dream Act, namely that children who came over as undocumented minors should not be deported as they did not play any active role in the decision to come over.

A GOP state senator said that his family doesn’t go on any vacation without his teenage daughter having a say in it, because risking one’s life and fortune to cross the desert is much the same as chossing between Six Flags and Universal Studios…

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 4:41:12am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a similar argument presented concerning the Dream Act, namely that children who came over as undocumented minors should not be deported as they did not play any active role in the decision to come over.

A GOP state senator said that his family doesn’t go on any vacation without his teenage daughter having a say in it, because risking one’s life and fortune to cross the desert is much the same as chossing between Six Flags and Universal Studios…

Yes, let me ask my newborn infant what they think about “illegally” seeking asylum in the United States, because as we all already know, babies have more rights than adults.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:41:31am

re: #38 wrenchwench

Je ne egret rien

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 4:43:24am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a similar argument presented concerning the Dream Act, namely that children who came over as undocumented minors should not be deported as they did not play any active role in the decision to come over.

A GOP state senator said that his family doesn’t go on any vacation without his teenage daughter having a say in it, because risking one’s life and fortune to cross the desert is much the same as chossing between Six Flags and Universal Studios…

Meanwhile, the reality that most times the teenage daughter is consulted about family vacations, it’s because mommy and daddy can’t decide between them on the destination and daddy wants her to break the tie. If mommy and daddy agree on a destination, then the only input they want from their teenager is enthusiastic support, else the vacation is canceled and they’re to blame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:45:54am

re: #72 Dangerman

[Comer: You can loan people money but if they pay you back then you benefitted directly

If you charged interest above inflation then perhaps…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 4:46:38am

@JoeBacon

That pineapple upside down cake looks amazing and I have a burning desire to make it. Do you have a good recipe?

Anyone?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:49:33am

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

Strange story — random occurrence or does it mean something unsettling:

Unknown traders appear to have anticipated October 7 Hamas attack, research finds

I read about that on a Putinversteher site and it is creepy. Of course over there they are blaming it all on the ZOG International banking cabal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 4:54:04am

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Greatest April Fool joke in history! The story behind it is pretty interesting too.

Cameraman Charles de Jaeger conceived the idea. BBC producer Michael Peacock accepted the proposal and gave de Jaeger a budget of £100. The narrator was none other than the famed war correspondent Richard Dimblebly whose well known voice gave the presentation an air of authority.

Keep in mind that Italian immigrants had exposed America to pasta since the turn of the 20th century but it remained relatively unkown to the British outside London until the 60’s.

Whenever my UK relatives come to visit, I serve something typically German, usually involving sauerkraut, which many of them say they have eaten for the first time in their lives.

Again, America, with its large German and Eastern European culinary traditions, was a lot more familiar with sauerkraut than the Brits ever were, not to mention the sort of xenophobic snobbery they pass of as “patriotism” when it comes to foreign foods (except curry).

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William Lewis Dec 5, 2023 • 4:56:41am

re: #152 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

@JoeBacon

That pineapple upside down cake looks amazing and I have a burning desire to make it. Do you have a good recipe?

Anyone?

If metric units don’t scare you…

bbcgoodfood.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Dec 5, 2023 • 5:01:36am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Dec 5, 2023 • 5:09:35am

re: #155 William Lewis

If metric units don’t scare you…

bbcgoodfood.com

Thanks! I can’t say that PUDC looks especially appealing but there’s a link in that recipe to a Raspberry Bakewell cake which looks divine. I’m going to make for my two SILs for Xmas. My BIL is from England so he’ll especially appreciate it.

Thanks again!

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 5:31:07am

Tie Her Knee!

Good Morning!

You can almost hear the hamster wheel grind to a halt. pic.twitter.com/B00nh41S4U

— 𝕊𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕖_𝔻𝕚𝕧𝕚𝕟𝕖 (@SundaeDivine) December 5, 2023

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 5:33:18am

“As he campaigns for another term in the White House, Donald Trump sounds like no other presidential candidate in U.S. history,” the New York Times reports.
“He has made baldly antidemocratic statements, praising autocratic leaders like China’s Xi Jinping and continuing to claim that the 2020 election was stolen… He has threatened to use the power of the presidency against his political opponents, including President Biden and Biden’s family. Trump frequently insults his opponents in personal terms, calling them ‘vermin,’ as well as ‘thugs, horrible people, fascists, Marxists, sick people.’”

“He has made dozens of false or misleading statements. He has advocated violence, suggesting that an Army general who clashed with him deserved the death penalty and that shoplifters should be shot. And he describes U.S. politics in apocalyptic terms, calling the 2024 election “our final battle” and describing himself as his supporters’ ‘retribution.’”

you still wont call them LIES

and ‘dozens’?

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 5:34:28am

re: #148 Nerdy Fish

Yes, let me ask my newborn infant what they think about “illegally” seeking asylum in the United States, because as we all already know, ~~babies~~ fetuses have more rights than adults.

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lawhawk Dec 5, 2023 • 5:37:53am

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Yep.

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Had the Boring company really advanced tunnel boring and made it cheaper to bore wide-diameter tunnels, we would have been on the cusp of a revolution.

Instead, this was Simpsons’ Monorail writ large.

Musk purposefully built this thing with no clue how to assemble a tunnel that would meet modern standards for ride and comfort, let alone safety. It was an underground traffic lane with cars that could stop mid-tunnel with no way to egress in an emergency.

The company wouldn’t and couldn’t produce wide diameter tunnels allowing for rail traffic, or multivehicle travel in two lanes (or one lane plus breakdown). It’s a mess.

Cities that leaned into this scam delayed or deferred work that would have brought mass transit to their cities faster, which would have lessened reliance on Musk’s Tesla vehicles.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 5:44:19am

Damnable gas stoves.

In the suburbs of Washington during searches in a residential house there was an explosion: law enforcement officers wanted to enter one of the houses with a search, but the suspect responded by firing a rocket launcher. As a result, the rocket launcher shot triggered a gas… pic.twitter.com/X6fQCc3D4q

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) December 5, 2023

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 5:45:13am

re: #162 Dave In Austin

Damnable gas stoves.

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WOKE JOE BIDEN IS COMING FOR YOUR ROCKET LAUNCHERS!!!1!111

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 5:46:17am

With that said, that house blowed up real good. I hope the deaths and injuries were limited.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 5:48:48am

re: #162 Dave In Austin

n the suburbs of Washington during searches in a residential house there was an explosion: law enforcement officers wanted to enter one of the houses with a search, but the suspect responded by firing a rocket launcher. As a result, the rocket launcher shot triggered a gas explosion.

Well regulated militias!!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 5:53:19am

Skuttlebutt says it was a flare gun and not a rocket launcher.

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 6:00:40am

re: #161 lawhawk

Had the Boring company really advanced tunnel boring and made it cheaper to bore wide-diameter tunnels, we would have been on the cusp of a revolution.

Instead, this was Simpsons’ Monorail writ large.

Musk purposefully built this thing with no clue how to assemble a tunnel that would meet modern standards for ride and comfort, let alone safety. It was an underground traffic lane with cars that could stop mid-tunnel with no way to egress in an emergency.

The company wouldn’t and couldn’t produce wide diameter tunnels allowing for rail traffic, or multivehicle travel in two lanes (or one lane plus breakdown). It’s a mess.

Cities that leaned into this scam delayed or deferred work that would have brought mass transit to their cities faster, which would have lessened reliance on Musk’s Tesla vehicles.

See also: “Despite all the money invested, we still don’t have enough electric car chargers, so I guess we’ll just have to push back those zero-emission mandates another decade.”

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 6:01:27am

re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Skuttlebutt says it was a flare gun and not a rocket launcher.

Technically, any kind of gun could set off the stove, if there was a leak or an unlucky shot. If you ask me, it’s a bad idea to shoot anything at cops executing a search warrant, regardless of if there’s a reason for them to be there or not.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 6:02:09am

Tac-Sac??

Click to Reveal

Why can’t they just be gay, how deep in the closet do you have to be to buy balls for rifle? Like just go touch some balls geesh pic.twitter.com/GXDiv7WKqS

— Propaganda, but like good. (@Eric_Biggz) December 4, 2023

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 6:12:05am

re: #152 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

@JoeBacon

That pineapple upside down cake looks amazing and I have a burning desire to make it. Do you have a good recipe?

Anyone?

Dad said he kept his recipe a secret. Just wish I knew it!

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 6:14:34am

re: #159 Dangerman

you still wont call them LIES

and ‘dozens’?

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

Forget it Jake. It’s the New York Times.

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 6:15:57am

Firing a flare gun once inside your own home once is a questionable life choice. Firing it 30 times is intentionally destroying evidence.

Mastodon

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darthstar Dec 5, 2023 • 6:19:23am

re: #172 Nerdy Fish

Firing a flare gun once inside your own home once is a questionable life choice. Firing it 30 times is intentionally destroying evidence.

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So not a rocket launcher?

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 6:19:59am

re: #173 darthstar

So not a rocket launcher?

My guess is that this initial description came from the police, because that sounds like a very police thing to say.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 6:23:17am

“BREAKING: Court documents reveal that Hunter Biden used his father’s connections to save up to fifteen percent on his car insurance.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 6:29:45am

re: #175 Dave In Austin

“BREAKING: Court documents reveal that Hunter Biden used his father’s connections to save up to fifteen percent on his car insurance.”

“Biden’s laptop e-mails offer proof that father warned him about acceperating into a curve.”

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 6:30:45am

This girl knows how to hitch a ride……….

Another fun weekend at Mar-a-Lago pic.twitter.com/wdG9dTdqHj

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) December 5, 2023

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Dr Lizardo Dec 5, 2023 • 6:33:46am

re: #177 Dave In Austin

Those RealDolls are getting frighteningly lifelike.

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 6:35:42am

Nixon was in peril of being impeached for ordering the wire-tapping of the opposition party’s office and then ordering a cover-up of that effort.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about sexual relations with a White House intern during a deposition for a defamation lawsuit.

Trump was impeached the first time for attempting to extort a foreign ally into fabricating an investigation that would have negative implications for his election opponent and the second time for helping orchestrate a violent coup against our very country.

And now Biden is about to be impeached for…his son paying back a loan?

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 6:35:59am

And what do we start the day with gang?

Tucker Carlson’s longtime producer accused of sexual assault.

You can take the producer out of Fox but you can’t take the Fox out of the producer…

msn.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 6:37:11am

re: #168 Nerdy Fish

Perzactly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 6:38:15am

re: #179 Targetpractice

And now Biden is about to be impeached for…his son paying back a loan?

It is just political payback but the GOP knows that enough people will see it as justified. As political payback for the Democrats’ “weaponization of the DOJ”

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 6:38:31am

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 6:41:10am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

Those RealDolls are getting frighteningly lifelike.

Notice the thumb?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 6:42:22am

re: #183 A Cranky One

…under a pile of stolen government documents

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 6:42:38am

re: #184 Dave In Austin

Yes. It is a bit longer than usual and it looks like it is broken.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 6:43:58am

re: #186 PhillyPretzel ✅

Yes. It is a bit longer than usual and it looks like it is broken.

from having been shoved too far up his….

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Dr Lizardo Dec 5, 2023 • 6:44:02am

re: #184 Dave In Austin

Notice the thumb?

Yeah, bends back weird.

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 6:48:46am

re: #186 PhillyPretzel ✅

Yes. It is a bit longer than usual and it looks like it is broken.

Hitchhiker’s thumb.

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Shropshire Slasher Dec 5, 2023 • 6:49:39am

re: #172 Nerdy Fish

Firing a flare gun once inside your own home once is a questionable life choice. Firing it 30 times is intentionally destroying evidence.

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Were they not warning flares!?!?!?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Dec 5, 2023 • 6:52:44am

I catched the birbie today.

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 6:56:25am

bsky.app

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Decatur Deb Dec 5, 2023 • 6:56:36am

re: #190 Shropshire Slasher

Were they not warning flares!?!?!?

Pure speculation, here: The guy wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, opened the gas taps and one of the flares finally coincided with the Lower Explosive Limit.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Dec 5, 2023 • 6:57:00am

Duomo watchdog.

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 6:57:25am

bsky.app

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Belafon Dec 5, 2023 • 6:58:20am

re: #190 Shropshire Slasher

Were they not warning flares!?!?!?

It almost reads like there were tracers in the guy’s gun.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 7:02:28am

Here’s a guy that’s figured out the game of life. pic.twitter.com/CQZleoZZvT

— Boston Smalls (@smalls2672) December 4, 2023

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 7:02:53am

Annenberg on that holiday suicide spike myth:
annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org

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TedStriker Dec 5, 2023 • 7:04:15am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Pure speculation, here: The guy wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, opened the gas taps and one of the flares finally coincided with the Lower Explosive Limit.

Aside from the means of ignition, last night’s sudden RUD and house-beque was straight out of Lethal Weapon.

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 7:04:35am

Mastodon

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 7:06:35am

Supreme court to hear case that could shield the shit-stains for souls Sacklers:
bbc.com

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Decatur Deb Dec 5, 2023 • 7:07:50am

re: #194 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Love Is A Dog From Hell.

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steve_davis Dec 5, 2023 • 7:08:14am

re: #5 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

You take what you need, and leave the rest for scavengers.

are they at least having a nice chianti to go with it?

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 7:11:15am

Hamas Drugged Freed Hostages to Make Them ‘Look Happy’: Israeli Official

Hostages released by Hamas were given tranquilizers to make them “look happy” as they were freed from captivity, an Israeli official said Tuesday. Dr. Hagar Mizrahi, the head of the Israeli Health Ministry’s medical division, told the Knesset Health Committee that hostages were administered with clonazepam, a drug typically used to treat seizures and acute anxiety. Mizrahi said the sedative would make them seem relaxed and upbeat despite weeks of psychological terror in captivity, according to The Times of Israel. The ministry reportedly did not disclose whether it had confirmed the alleged druggings with blood tests, or if it had relied on the testimony of freed hostages, or some other source of information. More than 100 hostages were freed by Hamas during a weeklong truce with Israel that ended Friday. Israeli authorities estimate that more than 130 captives remain in Gaza.

thedailybeast.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 7:12:28am

re: #200 Randall Gross

Election vigilantism is the biggest threat to voting rights in 2024.

Anything to turn the entire election into a clusterfuck goat rodeo and get votes tossed out, especially in “suspicious” neighborhoods.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 7:12:56am

re: #203 steve_davis

are they at least having a nice chianti to go with it?

keep scrolling

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 7:13:55am

Uh oh! Klanned Karenhood is having a Family Feud!

Moms for Liberty Chapter Breaks From National Group Over Rape Allegation

A local chapter of conservative parental rights group Moms for Liberty is breaking away from the national organization after the husband of one of its co-founders was accused of rape, according to a report. Reports emerged last week that Chirstian Ziegler, Florida’s GOP chairman and the spouse of MfL co-founder Bridget Ziegler, was accused of rape by a woman who had previously had a “longstanding consensual three-way sexual relationship” with the Zieglers, according to the Florida Center for Government Accountability. Now the local chapter of MfL in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, is breaking off from the national organization in the wake of the accusations. “It’s hard to advocate for parental rights when the co-founder is caught up in the scandal,” Clarissa Paige, the chapter chair, told The News-Item. “Our values are not aligning with the national organization.”

thedailybeast.com

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gocart mozart Dec 5, 2023 • 7:16:02am

Breaking: james comer has uncovered evidence that President Joe Biden ordered 11 cassette tapes from Columbia House in 1987, only paid 1 penny for them, and never followed through with the required purchase afterward! pic.twitter.com/SRTNp9WP5V

— Roger ZenAF (@RogerZenAF) December 5, 2023

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darthstar Dec 5, 2023 • 7:17:34am

re: #208 gocart mozart

Those are all 8-track tapes…from when Columbia House was awesome.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 7:18:18am

re: #208 gocart mozart

They are going one one heck of a fishing expedition.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 7:19:08am

re: #70 Captain Ron

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Holy shit. That was a huge explosion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 7:25:50am

re: #211 Eventual Carrion

Holy shit. That was a huge explosion.

On top the world, ma!

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 7:28:59am

Spotify Cuts 1,500 Jobs in Third Layoff Round This Year

One job they didn’t cut—their $100 million third rate Rush Limbaugh clone Joe Blowgan!

Spotify is set to cut its workforce by around 17 percent, CEO Daniel Ek told staff Monday, amid a slowdown in economic growth and the rising costs of borrowing money. The headcount reduction—which is Spotify’s third this year—will affect about 1,500 jobs, according to The Wall Street Journal. “I decided that a substantial action to rightsize our costs was the best option to accomplish our objectives,” Ek said in a lengthy note to employees Monday. “While I am convinced this is the right action for our company, I also understand it will be incredibly painful for our team.” He also noted that the cuts may “feel surprisingly large” given a recent positive earnings report showing the company made around $69 million in the three months ending Sept. 30—Spotify’s first quarterly profit in over a year.

thedailybeast.com

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Jay C Dec 5, 2023 • 7:29:06am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel ✅

They are going on one heck of a fishing expedition.

And are likely only to end up with the hooks embedded in their own asses.

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steve_davis Dec 5, 2023 • 7:29:43am

re: #48 Dangerman

We’re not and never was

we are God’s almost chosen people, after all.

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 7:31:08am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Anything to turn the entire election into a clusterfuck goat rodeo and get votes tossed out, especially in “suspicious” neighborhoods.

It started with the Brooks brother riot.

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steve_davis Dec 5, 2023 • 7:35:05am

re: #68 darthstar

Twice cooked pork loin medallions with dijon-cream sauce over risotto with mushrooms, leek and fennel.

Apologies for the sloppy plating.

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he is fine with it! he’s wondering where your plate is.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 7:38:53am

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steve_davis Dec 5, 2023 • 7:43:05am

re: #106 Belafon

A truck went off the highway in Dallas and what saved him is that he got wedged between I35 and a ramp:

wfaa.com

technically, they weren’t trying to “save a man from his truck,” unless the truck really was actively trying to kill him, and that occasionally happens in stuff like Christine or the really bad movie King made while his life was one endless line of cocaine.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 5, 2023 • 7:46:24am

Denmark’s biggest union 3F said Tuesday its transport workers would launch a strike in solidarity with Tesla workers in neighbouring Sweden on December 18 if Tesla refuses to sign a Swedish collective wage agreement.
“All members of 3F Transport are covered by the solidarity movement. This means that dockers and hauliers will not unload Tesla cars nor transport them into Sweden,” 3F said in a statement.

The Swedish strike, launched by the metal workers’ union IF Metall, began on October 27 when some 130 mechanics at 10 Tesla repair shops in seven cities walked off the job.

It has since grown into a larger conflict between the US electric car giant and almost a dozen unions seeking to protect Sweden’s labour model.

barrons.com

J Jonah Jameson Laugh - Spiderman

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dat_said Dec 5, 2023 • 7:47:22am

re: #213 Joe Bacon ✅

I’m certain the execs will keep their bonuses (and Joe Rogan will still be paid). And, of course, the stock price will jump (up $5.68 right now or just under 3%).

At least they’re being somewhat more generous than most in the layoff package (billboard.com):

Spotify will offer employees a baseline of five months of severance pay and other benefits, including payouts of all vacation pay

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 7:48:01am

Liz Cheney, outspoken Trump critic, weighs third-party presidential bid, vows to do ‘whatever it takes’ to prevent his reelection

The Republican former congresswoman will make a decision in the next few months, she told The Washington Post in an interview. Given her appeal to independents, former Republicans and some Democrats, many Trump critics in both parties have noted that a presidential run by Cheney could undercut her stated goal of defeating Trump, since it could draw some votes away from President Biden.

washingtonpost.com

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Vicious Babushka Dec 5, 2023 • 7:51:25am

WTAF

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish Dec 5, 2023 • 7:53:27am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

WTAF

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She’s… special.

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Markm1960 Dec 5, 2023 • 7:55:13am

re: #174 Nerdy Fish

My guess is that this initial description came from the police, because that sounds like a very police thing to say.

They’ll use the “Rocket Launcher” story to get some anti-missile funding to combat the sophisticated criminals they are now facing.

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Vicious Babushka Dec 5, 2023 • 7:57:07am

re: #224 Nerdy Fish

She’s… special.

“No female victims have offered testimony” BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FREAKING DEAD YOU SHITSTICK.

“It was often impossible for families to be shown faces - and it seems as if mutilation of these women’s faces was an objective in their murders.”

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sizzzzlerz Dec 5, 2023 • 7:58:30am

A rare sighting of a symmetrical birdie today.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 899 3/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 8:00:13am

re: #216 Randall Gross

It started with the Brooks brother riot.

It worked, so stick with a winning formula

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 5, 2023 • 8:06:27am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

In GOP presidential polls, Trump has the support of 58% of Republicans.

And most of the rest support his policies, just not his style, or perhaps they fear that he will lose even though they love him. Also let’s not forget that almost all who don’t support him will vote for him against a Democrat.

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Belafon Dec 5, 2023 • 8:08:22am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

WTAF

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She represents a far left wing that shakes hands with the right and contains one person, herself.

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dat_said Dec 5, 2023 • 8:10:54am

Speaking of layoffs, I am forever thankful for my manager and director/2nd-level manager at the first company I worked at right after college. Company started an uncontrolled downward spiral to non-existence about a year after I was hired (I tell myself that those two events are not related).

Those two managers recognized that fate and intentionally set up and paid for additional training for a bunch of us young engineers. At one point I asked the director “Are you sure? I don’t really need this to do my job.” and his reply was “Maybe not now but you might if you’re ever looking for a job”.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:11:26am

Nikki wants to take an ax to Social Security and Medicare

Haley, according to Schouten, “has called for several changes to the nation’s safety net programs, including increasing the age at which today’s younger workers would become eligible for Social Security retirement benefits and limiting the growth of benefits the wealthy receive.” And Haley’s “positions on entitlement reform, Schouten notes, will “face greater scrutiny as the January 15 Iowa Caucuses draw closer.”

alternet.org

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 5, 2023 • 8:11:35am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Par. Double whiff. That had the potential to go really wrong.

[Embedded content]

Bogie for me

Click to Reveal

Wordle 899 5/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩🟩🟩⬜
⬜🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟨⬜🟨⬜⬜
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Group: 3,4,5,5

Was too tired after 3 to think it through so used a “standard” word to find letters

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:13:45am

Gee I wonder why Shrewsan Collins is rejecting those Biden judicial nominees?

alternet.org

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lizardofid Dec 5, 2023 • 8:14:08am

New Old-Fashioned No. 1: Brenda Lee’s ‘Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree’ Tops Hot 100, 65 Years After Its Release
Lee leads for the first time since 1960, with only the third holiday No. 1 in the chart’s history.

billboard.com

Those cries of joy you may be hearing are from of millions of little dancing Christmas Trees!

Oh, good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:15:38am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

WTAF

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ol BJG sure sounds a lot like Jimmy Dore and the rest of the Horseshoe Hacks.

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lawhawk Dec 5, 2023 • 8:15:41am

re: #232 Joe Bacon ✅

Nikki wants to take an ax to Social Security and Medicare

Haley, according to Schouten, “has called for several changes to the nation’s safety net programs, including increasing the age at which today’s younger workers would become eligible for Social Security retirement benefits and limiting the growth of benefits the wealthy receive.” And Haley’s “positions on entitlement reform, Schouten notes, will “face greater scrutiny as the January 15 Iowa Caucuses draw closer.”

alternet.org

Never mind that these programs are funded separate payroll taxes, and that the GOP wants to balance books on the backs of those least able to endure them - poor, women, sick folks, etc., all so millionaires like Trump can get more tax breaks.

Not once does the GOP consider tax hikes to cover any potential shortfalls. Not once does the GOP consider rolling back tax breaks for millionaires who haven’t trickled down anything to anyone else except the burdens.

Not once does the GOP consider that public health or education or safety is improved through government spending. Not once does the GOP consider enforcement of the existing tax law to be worthwhile - rather they see the IRS as onerous and want to gut enforcement capabilities across the board with a lawsuit winding its way to the SCOTUS that would absolutely and absurdly end the ability to enforce the law in the administrative agencies and departments nationwide.

No - the GOP considers only that the billionaire class should be free to do anything they want with no consequences for skirting the rules.

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lawhawk Dec 5, 2023 • 8:16:20am

In other words, Johnson and the GOP are covering up criminal conduct by seditious treasonweasels who sought to interfere in the certification of Biden as POTUS and end democracy to install loser Trump in WH.

Johnson is furthering the conspiracy to end democracy.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 5, 2023

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 8:16:48am

I think Joe Biden should appoint Hunter as a special counsel investigating Comer.

The reaction would be epic.

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(((Archangel1))) Dec 5, 2023 • 8:18:37am

I could write a great deal, but really the community note she got does it so succinctly.
Gray is a despicable excuse for a human being.

“Believe all women” was always an absurd overreach: woman should be heard, claims should be investigated, but evidence is required. The same is true of the allegations out of Israel.But also, this isn’t a “believe women” scenario bc no female victims have offered testimony. https://t.co/a3Ku6gzY8L

— Briahna Joy Gray (@briebriejoy) December 5, 2023

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jeffreyw Dec 5, 2023 • 8:18:49am

Good morning!

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goddamnedfrank Dec 5, 2023 • 8:26:25am

This Defector takedown of Musk is hilarious:

As to that. People still evidently want to hear from this absolute buttmunch, which is not really surprising I guess, even where it can’t be explained by ghoulish rubbernecking. Just about everything bad anyone might ever wish to say about society under capitalism is both crystallized and proven correct by the fact that Elon Musk remains Important despite all of the above. In fact he is probably at least as important as he has ever been, because “important” is just a synonym for “rich” in a society in which nothing substantial can be accomplished or even meaningfully attempted without first convincing at least one hyper-rich cretin that it will gratify them personally or financially. Conceivably Musk might not be quite as rich, or uh liquid or whatever, as he was some time ago, or maybe his rate of becoming richer has slowed somewhat, but he remains, inarguably, super duper friggin’ rich, and therefore important at a scale previously reserved for, like, pharaohs. Andrew Ross Sorkin of the New York Times and CNBC interviewed him earlier this week, and it served as a nice reminder of why pharaohs so seldom sat for interviews.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 8:26:58am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Par. Double whiff. That had the potential to go really wrong.

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Was a 3/6 day for me

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Belafon Dec 5, 2023 • 8:27:07am

re: #240 (((Archangel1)))

I could write a great deal, but really the community note she got does it so succinctly.
Gray is a despicable excuse for a human being.

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She is evidence for my belief that the far far left only differ from authoritarians on the right in that they believe they should be the ones in charge.

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Patricia Kayden Dec 5, 2023 • 8:30:53am

re: #177 Dave In Austin

LOL. I thought it was his beloved daughter at first. He definitely has a type.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:31:42am

Paramilitary ‘Oath Keepers’ leader says she waited for Trump to ‘activate’ them before Capitol attack: DOJ

The leader of the paramilitary “Oath Keepers” group now indicted on conspiracy and other charges says she had waited for President Donald Trump to “activate” them and stood by for his direction before coming to storm the Capitol on January 6.
CNN reports the Dept. of Justice “is now making clear” that Oath Keepers leader Jessica Watkins, “who planned and led others in the Capitol siege to attempt to stop the Biden presidency — believed she was responding to the call from then-President Donald Trump himself.”

In a filing Thursday federal prosecutors write, “As the inauguration grew nearer, Watkins indicated that she was awaiting direction from President Trump.”

CNN calls it “the most direct language yet from federal prosecutors linking Trump’s requests for support in Washington, DC, to the most militant aspects of the insurrection.”

Prosecutors add that Watkins’ “concern about taking action without [President Trump’s] backing was evident in a November 9, 2020, text in which she stated, ‘I am concerned this is an elaborate trap. Unless the POTUS himself activates us, it’s not legit. The POTUS has the right to activate units too. If Trump asks me to come, I will. Otherwise, I can’t trust it.’ Watkins had perceived her desired signal by the end of December.”

rawstory.com

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:33:18am

Chicken…

rawstory.com

Paul Gosar became visibly ‘afraid’ during Jan. 6 — despite his call to ‘conquer the Hill’

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 5, 2023 • 8:34:15am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Nixon was in peril of being impeached for ordering the wire-tapping of the opposition party’s office and then ordering a cover-up of that effort.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about sexual relations with a White House intern during a deposition for a defamation lawsuit.

……
And now Biden is about to be impeached for…his son paying back a loan?

The Clinton impeachment was ridiculous. A censure would have been appropriate. But it was inexcusable that they treated his dishonesty about a consensual affair with an adult woman as a serious crime that warranted removal from office. But it did demonstrate that the Gingrich party had the same rot within it as the current GOP. Trump is nothing new — just more blatant.

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jeffreyw Dec 5, 2023 • 8:34:44am

re: #109 wrenchwench

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Bikes of days gone by:
youtube.com

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 8:35:21am

In GTA VI we gunna meet Florida Man

GTA 6 (Grand Theft Auto VI) Official Reveal Trailer

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 8:40:45am

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 8:44:06am

re: #238 lawhawk

[Embedded content]Johnson: We have to blur some of the faces of persons who participated in the events of that day because we don’t want them to be retaliated against and to be charged by the DOJ

why would the DOJ ‘retaliate’ against someone who didnt do anything wrong?

what do they have to worry about?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 8:45:44am

re: #252 Dangerman

why would the DOJ ‘retaliate’ against someone who didnt do anything wrong?

what do they have to worry about?

This siply begs the question that the Democrats are out seeking revenge for persons who were there simply “expressing their free opinions”.

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 5, 2023 • 8:45:53am

re: #237 lawhawk

Never mind that these programs are funded separate payroll taxes, and that the GOP wants to balance books on the backs of those least able to endure them - poor, women, sick folks, etc., all so millionaires like Trump can get more tax breaks.

Not once does the GOP consider tax hikes to cover any potential shortfalls. Not once does the GOP consider rolling back tax breaks for millionaires who haven’t trickled down anything to anyone else except the burdens.

……..

Of course they do — tax hikes on those who are not wealthy — they are all on board for those.

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 8:46:20am

My neighbor across the hall has a rough morning every day. Less rough now that he’s not smoking, but still rough. COPD and anxiety combine, and he yells, and he feels persecuted. His neighbors above him sound like large folks, and my neighbor (Ron) says they hurt him on purpose by stomping around up there. Twice in the past, he’s had me call 911 for him, and again today, after many months. The woman at dispatch was asking me questions, and I’d ask Ron, and pass the info along. So I found out that he’s 52 years old. I had guessed 60’s, pushing 70. Don’t judge a book by its cover.

Lots of EMTs showed up, in 2 vehicles. They didn’t stay as long as they have in the past (only once did they take him away). They left, then Ron asked me to hang out with him until his caregiver came, which was estimated at half an hour. Then I found out his birthday is on Christmas. His caregiver called to say she’s on her way, and asked Ron if he’s taken his meds, and he said leave me alone, I always take my meds. Then he hung up and took some meds, put on a jacket, and thanked me for hanging out.

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 8:48:42am

exTwitter has become a virtual wasteland, it’s like all the old Wackos from Free Republic and Democratic Underground are squaring off against each other in a thermonuclear hail of extremist shitposts.

While at one level it’s entertaining in a rubbernecking way, I just can’t do that now because outrage of the day just can’t be my style anymore.

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 8:50:50am

Fucking Burn……..

Gone but not forgotten pic.twitter.com/j815MofWgl

— Congressman Jared Moskowitz (@RepMoskowitz) December 5, 2023

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 8:54:46am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Nixon was in peril of being impeached for ordering the wire-tapping of the opposition party’s office and then ordering a cover-up of that effort.

nixon ordered the coverup

iirc, he was going to be impeached mostly for obstruction and abuse of power

while there’s a fair amount of strong supposition, it’s never been adequately established that he ordered the initial wire-tapping escapade (imo)

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 8:54:50am

re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Skuttlebutt says it was a flare gun and not a rocket launcher.

Yeah, that’s what I read when I first read about it.

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 8:55:24am

I don’t get a 2 very often. I forget what they are called. Wordle 899 2/6*

Click to Reveal

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Oh, yeah, eagle. Which is a big birb. Should be a wren or something small.

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sagehen Dec 5, 2023 • 8:55:27am

re: #248 Hecuba’s daughter

The Clinton impeachment was ridiculous. A censure would have been appropriate. But it was inexcusable that they treated his dishonesty about a consensual affair with an adult woman as a serious crime that warranted removal from office. But it did demonstrate that the Gingrich party had the same rot within it as the current GOP. Trump is nothing new — just more blatant.

that’s where moveon.org got their name… “censure and move on”.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 8:56:32am

re: #169 Dave In Austin

Tac-Sac??

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American manufacturing at its finest.

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lawhawk Dec 5, 2023 • 8:57:10am

This press conference was just CANCELED, per Tuberville’s office. Unclear why.

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) December 5, 2023

Tuberville is still playing games with our military readiness and holding promotions for all officers.

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 8:57:20am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This siply begs the question that the Democrats are out seeking revenge for persons who were there simply “expressing their free opinions”.

if true it should be easy to defend one’s self against that.

in fact those exact videos should document that you werent doing anything wrong

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Rightwingconspirator Dec 5, 2023 • 8:57:52am

Please sir, may I have moar tuna?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 8:58:01am

re: #260 wrenchwench

Oh, yeah, eagle. Which is a big birb. Should be a wren or something small.

Albatross if you get it in one. Very big birb.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 8:58:14am

re: #177 Dave In Austin

This girl knows how to hitch a ride……….

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Is she another porn star with a Forbes magazine?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 8:59:11am

re: #254 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course they do — tax hikes on those who are not wealthy — they are all on board for those.

And especially spending cuts on education, health care and social programs

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 9:00:14am

re: #262 Eventual Carrion

American manufacturing at its finest.

Considering the mold making process involved.

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:00:15am

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 9:00:16am

re: #265 Rightwingconspirator

Cute kitty. Which one is it?

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 9:00:56am

re: #266 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Albatross if you get it in one.

For some reason, I remembered that one, from the single time I got that and was informed. Not counting the old days when wordle broke and gave me the same puzzle twice in one day a few times. Those stats are long gone.

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DodgerFan1988 Dec 5, 2023 • 9:02:40am

It’s the same reason you’ll never see Miley Cyrus fighting with Hanna Montana. The Texas GOP are themselves, Nazis https://t.co/ARsFL1GtoF

— Kaylan_TX (@Kaylan_TX) December 5, 2023

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Teukka Dec 5, 2023 • 9:09:06am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

barrons.com

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“You never pick a fight with just a country’s trade unions”…

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 9:09:46am

re: #274 Teukka

Or any trade union for that matter.

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Rightwingconspirator Dec 5, 2023 • 9:11:06am

re: #271 PhillyPretzel ✅

Cute kitty. Which one is it?

Thats Jenner. Our new rehomed kitty.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 9:12:30am

re: #276 Rightwingconspirator

Oh. You adopted another one. He is cute.

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Eclectic Cyborg Dec 5, 2023 • 9:13:02am

re: #275 PhillyPretzel ✅

Or any trade union for that matter.

Is Europe our best hope for bringing down Elon Musk?

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 9:13:45am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I have no idea but if it works let’s go for it.

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Patricia Kayden Dec 5, 2023 • 9:14:15am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Even if the women came forward with their stories, she wouldn’t believe them. It’s pretty obvious that some on the extreme left have decided that Jews in Israel are all problematic colonizers who deserve whatever they get. They aren’t able to distinguish between disagreeing with Netanyahu’s dangerous agenda and ordinary Israelis.

In their book, Israelis = bad and Palestinians = good (including members of Hamas and other terrorist groups). It’s sad to see this reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Dec 5, 2023 • 9:15:05am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Europe our best hope for bringing down Elon Musk?

They won’t bring him down but they are showing that they are not in awe of him just for being rich and cocky

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:16:41am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Europe our best hope for bringing down Elon Musk?

No. Our best hope of bringing down Elon Musk is Elon Musk.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 9:18:48am

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Dave In Austin Dec 5, 2023 • 9:23:22am

Remember how every maga cuck was screaming about Biden selling off our strategic reserves to try and lower gas prices? Show them this video then punch them in the mouth. pic.twitter.com/LbDbiuuVAH

— Boston Smalls (@smalls2672) December 5, 2023

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 9:27:55am

re: #280 Patricia Kayden

Even if the women came forward with their stories, she wouldn’t believe them. It’s pretty obvious that some on the extreme left have decided that Jews in Israel are all problematic colonizers who deserve whatever they get. They aren’t able to distinguish between disagreeing with Netanyahu’s dangerous agenda and ordinary Israelis.

In their book, Israelis = bad and Palestinians = good (including members of Hamas and other terrorist groups). It’s sad to see this reality.

every israeli is responsible for netanyahu being in power, and the results

no palestinian is responsible for hamas being in power, and the results

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:30:46am

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:32:19am

There is evil and then there is this.

VentriloChoir on Hungarian TV

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dat_said Dec 5, 2023 • 9:32:24am

Fox29 Philadelphia: Central Bucks School District swear in new school board members, locals tailgate to celebrate

Not everyone was happy - there’s a quote from somebody wondering “what you’re [school board] going to do to make me and my home-schooled kids feel safe?”. In the meantime:

Celebrate good times, come on
Let’s celebrate
There’s a party going on right here
A celebration to last throughout the years
So bring your good times and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you, come on
Celebration

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sizzzzlerz Dec 5, 2023 • 9:33:26am

re: #249 jeffreyw

Bikes of days gone by:
youtube.com

My only question is why there are so many bikes in the canal

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Hecuba's daughter Dec 5, 2023 • 9:34:48am

re: #285 Dangerman

every israeli is responsible for netanyahu being in power, and the results

no palestinian is responsible for hamas being in power, and the results

TBF: The last election in Gaza was in 2006 so Palestinians had no way of changing their government; the last Israeli election was a year ago — when thanks to the inability of the left to get their act together, Netanyahu won. Minority of Israelis voted for Netanyahu or his even worse associates.

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 9:35:29am

re: #284 Dave In Austin

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there’s more….

if i remember reading the biden admin recently replenished the SPR buying back at lower prices than they sold off for

IOW, sold high, then bought low. ——> profits!

huh!

yup
here it is

Today, the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Office of Petroleum Reserves announced that contracts have been awarded for the acquisition of 2.7 million barrels of U.S.-produced crude oil for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). These contracts to deliver crude oil in January follow the Request for Proposal (RFP) that was announced on November 6, 2023. The 2.7 million barrels are being purchased for an average price of $79 per barrel, well below the average of about $95 per barrel that SPR crude was sold for in 2022, securing a good deal for taxpayers.

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ericblair Dec 5, 2023 • 9:35:42am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Europe our best hope for bringing down Elon Musk?

You can drag shit out in court for a looong time in most European countries.

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Dangerman Dec 5, 2023 • 9:37:51am

re: #290 Hecuba’s daughter

TBF: The last election in Gaza was in 2006 so Palestinians had no way of changing their government; the last Israeli election was a year ago — when thanks to the inability of the left to get their act together, Netanyahu won. Minority of Israelis voted for Netanyahu or his even worse associates.

i know, and you’re right

but we all know what i mean - the public is responsible for their leaders

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Decatur Deb Dec 5, 2023 • 9:38:21am

re: #289 sizzzzlerz

My only question is why there are so many bikes in the canal

Google Maps.

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:42:06am

re: #289 sizzzzlerz

My only question is why there are so many bikes in the canal

The riders were using Google Maps?

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sizzzzlerz Dec 5, 2023 • 9:47:50am

re: #295 A Cranky One

The riders were using Google Maps?

I think he’s referring to all the stories where people blindly drive their cars according to where Google Maps tells them to drive, even when it leads them down off-road trails or into lakes.

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 9:49:28am

re: #295 A Cranky One

The riders were using Google Maps?

/

They slipped off the edge to Gurgle Maps.

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A Cranky One Dec 5, 2023 • 9:51:31am

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The Ghost of a Flea Dec 5, 2023 • 9:51:50am

re: #244 Belafon

She is evidence for my belief that the far far left only differ from authoritarians on the right in that they believe they should be the ones in charge.

But this is an empty statement because the negative space is that centrists should be in charge, just the same argument made implicitly. It’s distinction without a difference.

It’s also a bad argument because volition—wanting to be in charge, even exclusively—is not the sole vector for harm, but also it’s magical thinking to divvy up the world such that “the authoritarians” exist separate from the status quo, when most authoritarians are capable of functioning precisely because they grant utility to the “normal” not-authoritarian countries and institutions.

It’s gesturing at the notion of a reasonable synthesis when de facto the center is not a synthesis but it’s own unreasonable thing…a system predicated on requiring illiberal enforcement because the material requirements for keeping society running in the metropoles requires illiberalism at the point of production…that’s where the surplus comes from. This creates the exceedingly dark joke that the people that view themselves as “reasonable” require both the boot of the Chinese Communist Party to enforce factory labor conditions and the boot of the Saudi monarchy to keep oil prices down, and must constantly compromise with “unreasonable” positions because of that dependence.

That’s outsourcing, not ethics, little more than the politics version of asking no pertinent questions about how the subcontractor does thing but fully knowing that the low price signifies something. Adding a step where you feel bad and disavow the thing before continuing on because is just banal evil.

Which, in any other framing than their preferred whig history, is why “the center” ends up being the ratchet that collaborates with the right constantly, crisis after crisis. We live in the shadow of the War on Terror, in which we were sold reaction and illiberalism by the center to fend against foreign reaction because that foreign reaction would disrupt normal relations of capital. This failing to achieve it’s constructive objectives, made things worse for a lot of people, and cued up the reactionary descent that we’re all so angry about, yet the same logical grind-through…that the parties that pettifogged and persuaded and browbeat to present this process as wise and good…is absent.

It’s the demand for skepticism without self-examination.

The discourse of who is reasonable is rigged such that the past and ongoing illiberalism cannot point to what the “reasonable” people did to the world to keep things going as they always go.

This is also bad because of a bunch of MacLuhanist stuff where this is happening because social media is a medium that warps all discourse and encourages the flattening of everything, and most forms of social media include a material incentive to do that flattening. The idea that you can pull a tweet and understand something, anything, is a falsity that benefits no particular political side, but the apolitical middlemen that derive value from engagement and actively talk about how to manufacture consent through social media.

(although, in keeping with earlier statements, those institutions are or will eventually bend right because reaction will let them continue to do what they’re already doing—fucking with people’s heads to increase engagement is the value proposition. The transformation of X is representative not just of one dude addicted to posting, but that to Silicon Valley types the ideology of disruption and “tech visionary-ness” is conservative because it proposes a new kind of hierarch)

It’s mistaking the field for the ground right off the bat, but it’s also giving banal, shitty people exactly what they want.

I’m writing this less about this tweet by a person I don’t like than the trend that’s beginning to get to me where everything is just a tweet and a reaction, and usually that reaction is just…discharge. It freaks me out because everyone’s constantly going onto social media, getting negatively activated, and then viewing the appropriate response as cathartic expression. That a bad loop, people, that’s a loop that’s going to make life harder for you in particular—if you have the choice not to do hypervigilance, don’t, I know what that does to your health and mindset—but it’s also a loop that has been set up by people that want you to be that way because it services their needs.

There is an implicit politics to the constant A-or-B rhetorical storm on social media, and that politics is the maintenance of the current system by shifting material crises into the realm of the personal, by incentivizing individual clashes of rhetorical positioning when most of our problems are systemic and impersonal and cannot be resolved by identifying the bad people and calling them names. And that politics is the actual center, the power-holders and the processes that are fine with things going as they are going, who like the current pace of the boots stomping the world because they wear those boots.

I mean, I’d hope that political discussion would be elevated above the card trick of finding shitty people on social media—an algorithm literally designed to put shitty people in front of your eyes and make you angry—but if this is discourse then we’re doomed, because the material harm is being done by people with excellent PR firms and governments with entire propaganda wings. We will spend our lives doomscrolling and identifying the malefactors one by one to be disavowed while shit gets worse.

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sagehen Dec 5, 2023 • 9:52:41am

re: #290 Hecuba’s daughter

TBF: The last election in Gaza was in 2006 so Palestinians had no way of changing their government; the last Israeli election was a year ago — when thanks to the inability of the left to get their act together, Netanyahu won. Minority of Israelis voted for Netanyahu or his even worse associates.

also… the majority of Gazans were either toddlers, or not yet born, in 2006. So they certainly had no say in the matter.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 5, 2023 • 9:56:07am

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Randall Gross Dec 5, 2023 • 9:58:04am

Mastodon

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jeffreyw Dec 5, 2023 • 9:59:40am

re: #289 sizzzzlerz

My only question is why there are so many bikes in the canal

Bike sharing programs

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gocart mozart Dec 5, 2023 • 10:03:21am

good idea, Mr. Speaker https://t.co/TNgCzZ56WO pic.twitter.com/6vr0TSRONz

— George Conway (gtconway3 on Threads) (@gtconway3d) December 5, 2023

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 10:06:13am

re: #304 gocart mozart

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Insufficient. Put Nixon’s face on him.

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Eventual Carrion Dec 5, 2023 • 10:14:00am

re: #304 gocart mozart

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But if they were Antifa/FBI/actors don’t you want them to be caught?

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gocart mozart Dec 5, 2023 • 10:19:20am

James Comer Reveals Biden Let Chinese Communist Party Use His Netflix Password To Catch Up On ‘Stranger Things’https://t.co/lem1XXyLVA by @EvanHurst

— Wonkette (@Wonkette) December 5, 2023

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Belafon Dec 5, 2023 • 10:21:20am

re: #307 gocart mozart

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It would have been more accurate if she had said he let Hunter use his password.

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jeffreyw Dec 5, 2023 • 10:23:54am

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank Dec 5, 2023 • 10:24:06am

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 10:24:28am

re: #307 gocart mozart

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His “case” is even more ridiculous than that. It amounts to “Because Hunter got some money that might have come from China, Joe Biden said something nice about President Xi…in 2017.”

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Vicious Babushka Dec 5, 2023 • 10:28:27am

This is like Hamas returning “some” of the hostages.

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Dec 5, 2023 • 10:30:38am

re: #312 Vicious Babushka

He got a call from DT telling him to be firm about the abortion issue.

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Belafon Dec 5, 2023 • 10:31:47am

re: #312 Vicious Babushka

This is like Hamas returning “some” of the hostages.

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He’s trying to figure out how to keep the Senate from making him a non-figure again.

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wrenchwench Dec 5, 2023 • 10:32:21am

Mastodon

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 10:33:18am

re: #312 Vicious Babushka

This is like Hamas returning “some” of the hostages.

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Watch now as all the talk about support from the Senate GQP to hold his ass to the fire magically evaporates and talk turns against a rules change to pass all the promotions in favor of “negotiations” or some other such bullshit.

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Shropshire Slasher Dec 5, 2023 • 10:33:33am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

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Maybe the prosecutors can help with that.

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Targetpractice Dec 5, 2023 • 10:36:38am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

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Pick your excuse:

A) “Not enough funding!”
B) “Not enough recruits!”
C) “Cops afraid to make arrests!”
D) All of the above
E) Ron Paul

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Unabogie Dec 5, 2023 • 10:40:29am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

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Only cops think that failing to perform their jobs even more than usual means they should all get raises.

Spy Auto

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