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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:07:52pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

Also remember watching some Dick Cavett when I was in middle/high school. Yes, some went over my head.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:10:05pm
Kenny DeForest, a popular stand-up comic who made appearances on Late Night with Seth Meyers and The Late Late Show with James Corden, HBO’s Crashing and Comedy Central’s Tales From The Trip, died yesterday at a Brooklyn hospital days after what his family and friends say was a Dec. 8 traffic accident in which his bicycle was struck by a motor vehicle. He was 37.

Stand-Up Comic Kenny DeForest Dies At Brooklyn Hospital After Bike Struck By Vehicle; He Was 37 (Deadline)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:16:03pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:25:25pm

Most reports are coming from RW nutcase sites, but it seems a failed GOP candidate has destroyed the Satanic holiday display in the Iowa capitol.

Not linking them here.

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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:26:26pm

When I was living in the UP while flying Tankers at K.I. Sawyer AFB, we hunted game in the winter (October to May- summer was the 4th of July weekend) and I was hunting Wabbits (snowshoes) with a local friend when we encountered a godawful smell.

We were wearing broad Cross Country skis when he turned around and started poling away from me, yelling “Follow me! It’s a fucking carcajou!” I wasted no time, soon catching him and passing him. He said, “Dammit, if I knew you were that fast, I wouldn’t have warned you.”

It was, of course, a Wolverine and we outdistanced it. They rarely, if ever attack humans, but it’s a 50 lb. weasel, and who wants to say “Come at me, bro!” to that?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:26:32pm

Trump Co-Defendants Pen VERY Brief Apology Letters for Election Crimes

Lawyers Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro managed to pack all of their remorse into just one sentence.

“I apologize for my actions in connection with the events in Coffee County,” Sidney Powell wrote on Oct. 19.

Kenneth Chesebro also wrote a similarly verbose letter.

“I apologize to the citizens of the State of Georgia and of Fulton County for my involvement in Count 15 of the indictment,” he scribbled just a day after Powell.

wow you can just feel all the remorse they put into composing those required statements…

thedailybeast.com

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:30:00pm

I don’t miss twitter as much as I miss that feeling that we could actually change the world by shit-posting on a website.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:31:48pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Some indications that we can make it worse. Worse is change.

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jeffreyw  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:36:27pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:36:55pm

From down downstairs.

re: #60 darthstar

Musk should be sanctioned. He just lost 900 million dollars in US subsidies because of concern over his ability to deliver with Starlink.

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He dicked Ukraine over Starlink. I remember reading that the state department had to make nice with him where he was basically holding US policy hostage. What did he think would happen?

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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:39:08pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Am I the only Lizard that thinks that Charles’ comment lacked only some sarc tags to have agency?

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William Lewis  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:39:27pm

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Big news in vexillology:

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Now Wisconsin just needs a new flag. Say a badger recumbent , with a cheese-head hat & a beer in hand on a blue background…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:41:18pm

re: #12 austin_blue

Am I the only Lizard that thinks that Charles’ comment lacked only some sarc tags to have agency?

Didn’t seem sarcastic. Is there a weltschmerz tag?

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:42:09pm

LIVE: Joe Biden RIGGING AND STOLLING Your Prescription Drug Prices And Making Them Lower!
wonkette.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:42:20pm
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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:47:25pm
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Jay C  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:47:38pm

re: #10 jeffreyw

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I-dunno:

I don’t trust those smiles…

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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:49:45pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

Didn’t seem sarcastic. Is there a weltschmerz tag?

I guess we need to ask the boss!

Charles?

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:51:41pm

Catching up:

On Wisconsin: my only visit was a drive to Kenosha where I visited the waterfront near an old church turned into a city park. Quite beautiful day

Also: I became instantly smitten with the coach of the University of Wisconsin women’s swimming team when I briefly locked eyes with her and a smile on a rental car shuttle bus at Sea Tac Airport.

On College Sports: I like my University of Arizona Wildcats, plus these teams I met at airports and travels and who were all very great representatives of their schools. I root for
DePaul University Men’s Basketball
Duke University Women’s Volleyball
Arkansas State Baseball
Oregon State Softball
Oregon State Women’s Track
Arizona State Men’s Golf

On animals: see photo:

2023: After the Santa Ana Winds
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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:55:41pm

Ah here is the ultimate Kitty pic for this time of year!

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:55:50pm

re: #17 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

That wanker has four advertisements on this page right now.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:57:08pm

re: #17 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

Please name one institution that has been measurably improved by increased female leadership

Marriage.

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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2023 • 6:57:12pm

re: #20 So Cal Greek Hippie

Catching up:

On Wisconsin: my only visit was a drive to Kenosha where I visited the waterfront near an old church turned into a city park. Quite beautiful day

Also: I became instantly smitten with the coach of the University of Wisconsin women’s swimming team when I briefly locked eyes with her and a smile on a rental car shuttle bus at Sea Tac Airport.

On College Sports: I like my University of Arizona Wildcats, plus these teams I met at airports and travels and who were all very great representatives of their schools. I root for
DePaul University Men’s Basketball
Duke University Women’s Volleyball
Arkansas State Baseball
Oregon State Softball
Oregon State Women’s Track
Arizona State Men’s Golf

On animals: see photo:

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But can you do The Kenosha, kid?

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:00:08pm

re: #15 jaunte

LIVE: Joe Biden RIGGING AND STOLLING Your Prescription Drug Prices And Making Them Lower!
wonkette.com

All part of Bernie Sanders’ agenda to take over prescriptions, according to an ad that keeps running here..

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:02:07pm

re: #24 austin_blue

But can you do The Kenosha, kid?

I never did.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:04:14pm

re: #23 Vicious Babushka

Marriage.

randalolson.com

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:06:45pm

I wish I could control the ads Google puts on LGF.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:14:59pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

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randalolson.com

I’d love to know what the divorce spike is about after WW2.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:15:30pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’d love to know what the divorce spike is about after WW2.

Dear John,…

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:15:34pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’d love to know what the divorce spike is about after WW2.

It corresponds with the marriage spike, so it may just be the law of large numbers.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:16:23pm

re: #31 Nerdy Fish

It corresponds with the marriage spike, so it may just be the law of large numbers.

There should be an expected lag time.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:17:20pm

Netflix announced there will be a season two of Blue Eye Samurai.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:17:29pm

I get emails from Atlas Obscura, and tonight got one that I recognize.

I have not been in Thorncrown, but in a sister chapel called Mildred B. Cooper Memorial chapel in Buena Vista, Arkansas. Thorncrown is in Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Eureka Springs is an interesting town, a bit touristy. Fay Jones was chair of Architecture at the University of Arkansas, and a student of Frank Lloyd Wright. Fay Jones designed a large number of homes in Northwest Arkansas. Including one you can stay in, The Inn at Bella Vista (Arkansas).

atlasobscura.com

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darthstar  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:18:24pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I wish I could control the ads Google puts on LGF.

More penis pills would be nice…oh wait, I don’t see ads…never mind.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:18:53pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

There should be an expected lag time.

There could have been a whole lot of the excitement wearing off pretty quickly, but that’s what I am wondering.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:20:32pm

re: #34 BlueSpotinAL ✅

I went to go look him up. His wife went by Gus.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:21:44pm

re: #35 darthstar

More penis pills would be nice…oh wait, I don’t see ads…never mind.

If only it was penis pills, but it’s far worse than that.

It’s Republicans.

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darthstar  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:22:27pm

re: #33 Belafon

Netflix announced there will be a season two of Blue Eye Samurai.

Speaking of NF - I watched a movie this afternoon called Assassins Club - not a bad, if unbelievable, plot - but some of the actors were decent in their roles.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:22:51pm

re: #33 Belafon

Netflix announced there will be a season two of Blue Eye Samurai.

Praise Chthulu.

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darthstar  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:22:56pm

Chargers just scored, so the shutout is off…but I still think the Raiders might hang on to win this game - currently 49-7

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:25:31pm

re: #24 austin_blue

?
No , but I think I could fake it for the yokels though

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:28:58pm

re: #33 Belafon

Season 3 of Good Omens is confirmed.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:29:21pm

re: #41 darthstar

Wow! I am a weak fan of any team that ever played NFL in Los Angeles, so no real rooting stake here, but damn. I guess Justin Herbert is a difference maker after all. Back to San Diego, I say

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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:30:01pm

States with highest divorce rates:

Arkansas - 10.7%
Oklahoma - 10.4%
Nevada - 10.2%
New Mexico - 10.2%
Kentucky - 10.1%
Wyoming - 10%
Delaware - 9.4%
Utah - 9.4%
Kansas - 9.2%
Alabama - 9.1%

States with lowest divorce rates:

Maine - 4.8%
South Dakota - 6%
New York - 6.1%
Pennsylvania - 6.1%
Illinois - 6.2%
Iowa - 6.3%
New Jersey - 6.3%
Massachusetts - 6.4%
Wisconsin - 6.4%
California - 6.5%
katiecouric.com

Hmmm.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:34:06pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I wish I could control the ads Google puts on LGF.

$55 for a jar of Cheech & Chong’s Cruise Chews…endlessly on sale…

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:34:37pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Utah? Wow.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:35:36pm

Just finished “Leave the World Behind” a bit spooky.

**Apologies for a meme I just posted. I was informed it offensive to some faithful here, and I had no clue.

I mean no offense to any member here. Especially one who I hold in high regard.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:38:28pm

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:40:08pm

re: #49 Vicious Babushka

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Captain Ron  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:40:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:43:19pm

re: #47 jaunte

Utah? Wow.

Lowest average age at marriage, by a good bit.
marriage.com

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:44:58pm

re: #48 Dave In Austin

Just finished “Leave the World Behind” a bit spooky.

**Apologies for a meme I just posted. I was informed it offensive to some faithful here, and I had no clue.

I mean no offense to any member here. Especially one who I hold in high regard.

Amended.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:45:50pm

KAPPARAH (plural, kapparot = “means of atonement”)
jewishencyclopedia.com

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A Cranky One  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:46:13pm

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darthstar  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:48:22pm

re: #51 Captain Ron

I’ve got a b-day party I’m hosting tomorrow…wood will burn.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:51:53pm

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Captain Ron  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:57:00pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 14, 2023 • 7:59:33pm

Ughhh

Mastodon

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:03:05pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

The ‘representative’ of 9.71 million people gets to veto the representatives of 439 million people? Sounds like the Electoral College.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:03:18pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

Ughhh

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Fuck Orban—The Joe Manchin of the EU.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:04:20pm

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:05:21pm

re: #60 jaunte

IMhO, the EU should dump Hungary, keep their 20 bn, and give the 50 bn to Ukraine. Tell Hungary if they dump Orban (and Putin), they can come back in, and get their 20 bn.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:05:26pm

re: #60 jaunte

The ‘representative’ of 9.71 million people gets to veto the representatives of 439 million people? Sounds like the Electoral College.

Unanimous has always had its problems. Looking at Tuberville.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:09:27pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’d love to know what the divorce spike is about after WW2.

They had a quickie marriage just before he shipped out and then… OMG HE CAME BACK! I don’t want to actually make a life with this guy, I just wanted a husband in the service and I assumed then I’d be a widow!!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:10:28pm

re: #57 Vicious Babushka

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:14:16pm

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:15:33pm

re: #63 retired cynic

There are a lot of creative politicians in Europe who know exactly what’s at stake. I hope they engineer a workaround quickly.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:19:34pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon ✅

Fuck Orban—The Joe Manchin of the EU.

I was about to say, the Tommy Tuberville of the EU.

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silverdolphin  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:24:06pm

re: #65 sagehen

They had a quickie marriage just before he shipped out and then… OMG HE CAME BACK! I don’t want to actually make a life with this guy, I just wanted a husband in the service and I assumed then I’d be a widow!!

A quick google shows that this was mostly the reason. Got married before he left, for good reasons, when he came back, she would rather be with someone she met during the war or he would rather be with someone he met in England/France. I’d bet these were often young couples.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:29:04pm

He was arrested. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:32:03pm

Revealed: Trump reportedly plans to deploy hundreds of thousands of troops in U.S.

If Trump wins a second term as president he might launch a Southern Border “war,” according to a Rolling Stone report.

The outlet spoke to multiple sources claiming the 45th president, who has already pledged (he later claimed jokingly) that he would rule the country on day one as a “dictator” — would deploy possibly “hundreds of thousands” of troops near the border dividing Mexico and install makeshift detention camps to quarter immigrants, the Rolling Stone story detailed.

To do this, Trump has reportedly been gaming out ways with his close allies on how to amass a “surge” of federal troops to seal the U.S.-Mexico border.

The ambitious plans are believed to have stemmed from Trump’s top immigration aide, Stephen Miller, who tussled with Secretary of Defense Mark Esper in an attempt to fortify the region with 250,000 troops while the nation was hamstrung in the pandemic.

He’s called for “many thousands” to tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of soldiers to be posted there (even pulling some from bases in Germany), according to various sources who spoke with the outlet.

“I have heard anywhere between 100,000 to 300,000 from President Trump, Stephen Miller, and others on what may be required to get the job done right,” one of the people familiar with the matter says. “There are differences of opinion on how many you would actually need, and everyone has their own ideas…. Nothing is set in stone.”

The idea of a Southern Border deployment isn’t entirely Trumpian.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis vowed to send troops there in some fashion.

“I’m going to have the military at the border, 100%,” he told CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell.

And Republican candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said in the last GOP debate: “We’re going to smoke the terrorists on our own Southern Border and that’s how I’m going to lead this country.”

Attempts by Trump to wield unprecedented military might at the edge of the country during his first term were thwarted by his own top officials like Esper. Still, Trump managed to send 5,200 active-duty National Guard troops to man the border and set up barriers.

The second go-around the former president would, according to the outlet, fill his roster of aides with “MAGA-friendly” attorneys so that the policies can become “perfectly legal,” according to sources who spoke with the outlet.

He will likely run up against the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids American presidents from utilizing the military as a domestic police force.

rollingstone.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:32:14pm

re: #47 jaunte

Utah? Wow.

If a polygamist divorces all his wives at the same time, does it count as 1 divorce, or more?

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:32:23pm

re: #71 Dave In Austin

Iowa? Odds are they give him a medal.

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mmmirele  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:36:36pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Iowa? Odds are they give him a medal.

These people would completely lose their shit if I were to publicly burn a Bible (I have several) in front of one of their houses of worship.

THAT SAID, I would NEVER do that because burning books is bad. It sets a bad example.

But they’d go crazy. You know they would.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:36:39pm

re: #48 Dave In Austin

Just finished “Leave the World Behind” a bit spooky.

**Apologies for a meme I just posted. I was informed it offensive to some faithful here, and I had no clue.

I mean no offense to any member here. Especially one who I hold in high regard.

Spoiler alert!

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:39:31pm

re: #71 Dave In Austin

Pretty sure that when you behead a Satan idol it grows back 13 more heads.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:42:05pm

re: #77 jaunte

You have to admit, that would liven up the Iowa Capitol building.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:42:10pm

re: #76 BeenHereAwhile

Spoiler alert!

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:42:47pm

re: #78 retired cynic

They may not grow back on the same body.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:43:17pm

Just random Satan idol heads sprinkled across the landscape.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:44:09pm

re: #81 jaunte

Sounds like a Dr Who plot.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:44:41pm

Zardozzes on every corner.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:50:48pm

If Iowa conservatives can declare the Church of Satan a bad and forbidden religion, guess who’s next.

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darthstar  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:52:41pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

If only it was penis pills, but it’s far worse than that.

It’s Republicans.

Oh penisless pills… Those fuckers are the worst.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2023 • 8:56:30pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Iowa? Odds are they give him a medal.

He’ll get told he’s a naughty boy, made a write an apology, and charged for the cost of damages to the display. Which he’ll appeal and get the fine dropped.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:06:04pm

re: #71 Dave In Austin

He was arrested. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Someone should say “Yeah, the cop. Why aren’t you showing his picture?”

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:06:23pm

re: #29 Belafon

I’d love to know what the divorce spike is about after WW2.

Unfaithful spouse, or spouse believed to have been unfaithful, or PTSD.

It took my father ~10 years to get over PSTD.

He would have infrequent bursts of rage, sometimes months apart, never out in public, but never attempted to harm himself or anyone. My mother was an RN, and we dealt with it.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:07:34pm

re: #75 mmmirele

These people would completely lose their shit if I were to publicly burn a Bible (I have several) in front of one of their houses of worship.

THAT SAID, I would NEVER do that because burning books is bad. It sets a bad example.

But they’d go crazy. You know they would.

They would call for a massive sentence if someone destroyed the Christian one.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:07:42pm

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William Lewis  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:10:11pm

re: #71 Dave In Austin

He was arrested. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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As a small c catholic christian and former army NCO, I’d spit in his face if I could. He is the antithesis of a hero.

As with so many things, Bowie put it well:

I, I can remember (I remember)
Standing, by the wall (by the wall)
And the guns, shot above our heads (over our heads)
And we kissed, as though nothing could fall (nothing could fall)
And the shame, was on the other side
Oh we can beat them, for ever and ever
Then we could be Heroes, just for one day

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silverdolphin  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:14:35pm

re: #72 Joe Bacon ✅

Revealed: Trump reportedly plans to deploy hundreds of thousands of troops in U.S.

If Trump wins a second term as president he might launch a Southern Border “war,” according to a Rolling Stone report.

The outlet spoke to multiple sources claiming the 45th president, who has already pledged (he later claimed jokingly) that he would rule the country on day one as a “dictator” — would deploy possibly “hundreds of thousands” of troops near the border dividing Mexico and install makeshift detention camps to quarter immigrants, the Rolling Stone story detailed.

To do this, Trump has reportedly been gaming out ways with his close allies on how to amass a “surge” of federal troops to seal the U.S.-Mexico border.

The ambitious plans are believed to have stemmed from Trump’s top immigration aide, Stephen Miller, who tussled with Secretary of Defense Mark Esper in an attempt to fortify the region with 250,000 troops while the nation was hamstrung in the pandemic.

He’s called for “many thousands” to tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of soldiers to be posted there (even pulling some from bases in Germany), according to various sources who spoke with the outlet.

“I have heard anywhere between 100,000 to 300,000 from President Trump, Stephen Miller, and others on what may be required to get the job done right,” one of the people familiar with the matter says. “There are differences of opinion on how many you would actually need, and everyone has their own ideas…. Nothing is set in stone.”

The idea of a Southern Border deployment isn’t entirely Trumpian.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis vowed to send troops there in some fashion.

“I’m going to have the military at the border, 100%,” he told CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell.

And Republican candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said in the last GOP debate: “We’re going to smoke the terrorists on our own Southern Border and that’s how I’m going to lead this country.”

Attempts by Trump to wield unprecedented military might at the edge of the country during his first term were thwarted by his own top officials like Esper. Still, Trump managed to send 5,200 active-duty National Guard troops to man the border and set up barriers.

The second go-around the former president would, according to the outlet, fill his roster of aides with “MAGA-friendly” attorneys so that the policies can become “perfectly legal,” according to sources who spoke with the outlet.

He will likely run up against the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids American presidents from utilizing the military as a domestic police force.

rollingstone.com

A quick check shows there are about 500,000 active army personnel based in the US. The National Guard is about the same. So a quarter of the entire land-based forces of the US along the border, doing police work.

I want to see the head of logistics when assigned to deal with making this happen. Along some of the most desolate in the US, without good roads or infrastructure. Should be fun.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:17:43pm

re: #91 William Lewis

As a small c catholic christian and former army NCO, I’d spit in his face if I could. He is the antithesis of a hero.

As with so many things, Bowie put it well:

Exorcism Via the Constitution

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:24:29pm

re: #47 jaunte

Utah? Wow.

Well, they do have spares, ya know?

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:36:08pm

Oh, no, mommy’s angry:

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:40:43pm

re: #95 Belafon

Let’s check the White House concern meter.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2023 • 9:40:47pm

latimes.com

Postal Service for the Dead, started by artist Janelle Ketcher, provides the living with a way to physically send letters to those who have exited this realm. The letters are stored, and if so desired, shared with the public. Senders indicate on the back of envelopes if they’d like for the notes to remain sealed or not — leaving them blank means do not open, a heart signifies read but don’t share and a star indicates share. Postal Service for the Dead also functions as a community archive for those who have lost someone, that nation that transcends borders and dimensions, whose language is grief.

Inspired by projects like the wind phone, a disconnected payphone in a garden in Ōtsuchi, Japan, where people can call the deceased, Ketcher decided to just do it herself. She opened a box at a post office in Lincoln Heights and launched an Instagram account. In the year since, dozens of people have sent letters, coming from the West Coast, the Carolinas, Florida, France and beyond.

They include postcards, handwritten notes and homemade collages. There are sweet, nostalgic remembrances, memories of times had and updates on lives lived, but also letters that render the anger, confusion and despair that can accompany the death of a person close to us.

“One big thing with grief,” Ketcher says, “is that even within a family or community unit, everyone could be grieving in a super different way.”

The archive includes letters to family, friends, pets and those who are not physically gone but who are lost in other ways. Most of the letters sent via Postal Service for the Dead have been marked for sharing. Only one letter, sent in an envelope the color of terracotta, was left blank, meaning it will remain sealed and unread.

Writing letters to the dead is a longstanding practice — “A lot of people burn their letters, and that can be really helpful as well,” Ketcher says — but being able to actually send them somewhere holds a mysterious power.

And there’s something appropriate about the Postal Service for the Dead being in Los Angeles. The city’s mythology, a brightly lighted dreamscape with a dark underbelly, makes it the perfect portal between worlds.

Ketcher knows that not everyone believes in an afterlife and that the letters may not be received by their intended recipients.

“I’m just a keeper,” Ketcher says of the letters. “But I do think you can continue a conversation, you can continue a connection, through storytelling.” The artist pauses, and adds, “If you receive a letter from someone you love, there is a bit of magic in that.”

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William Lewis  Dec 14, 2023 • 10:20:52pm

I got my Sun Blade 2500 Silver (dual 1.6ghz USIIIi/8gb ram/XVR-600 graphics - decent workstation for 2004… O_O ) up and reloaded again. Installed the “recommended” patches, latest version of Open Office, Firefucked & found that they let you use the compiler suite for non-commercial users (so C, C++ & Fortran for free as in beer)

My old Dell monitor has dual video inputs & a nice little switch on the front of the monitor.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2023 • 10:40:31pm

re: #68 jaunte

There are a lot of creative politicians in Europe who know exactly what’s at stake. I hope they engineer a workaround quickly.

There were rumors on the EU political grapevine that this dick move from Orbán was anticipated, so they were working on ways around him.

What needs to be done is to invoke Article 7 against Hungary - which would remove Hungary’s voting rights on the European Commission, preventing Orbán from using his veto power. Tusk is now PM in Poland, so Orbán can’t count on Poland saving his ass like they did under the PiS government. That leaves Slovakia’s PM Robert Fico as the only potential holdout against invoking Article 7 - but Fico is notoriously corrupt and can be easily bribed (or alternatively, threatened blackmailed) into compliance.

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Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿  Dec 14, 2023 • 10:42:44pm

This one is growing on me, slowly.

The Sensible Gray Cells - A Stupid Xmas OFFICIAL VIDEO


Also, have a Wordle.

Wordle 909 3/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,4,4,5

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 3:20:46am

Two beagles in a row, yikes.
Wordle 909 2/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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TarHellion  Dec 15, 2023 • 3:28:45am

re: #101 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

No beagle-mania here, though a birbie is a good way to end the week.

Wordle 909 3/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
⬜🟨🟨🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 15, 2023 • 3:59:18am
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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:02:50am

re: #103 Shropshire Slasher

Some Friday morning drive time music.

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Loves me some moe. Think I’ve seen them over 15 times.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:03:01am

Link

House Republicans in swing districts are trapped between the wishes of their GOP base to move forward on an impeachment inquiry against President Joe Biden and the risk of being portrayed as extremists as they defend their seats in the 2024 midterm elections.”

Vulnerable GOP members are trying to perform a high-stakes balancing act: Support the inquiry, but refrain from a full-throated endorsement of impeachment. … [Democrats] expect impeachment could provide fodder for ads to hit their Republican opponents in swing seats and create a clear opening to tie their opponents to former President Donald Trump in those battleground districts.”

Too late.
You had the chance.
You can’t support just a little bit of impeachment
You voted *for* it

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JC1  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:04:20am

re: #60 jaunte

The ‘representative’ of 9.71 million people gets to veto the representatives of 439 million people? Sounds like the Electoral College.

EU should suspend Hungary. They probably have the votes to do it now.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:07:18am

re: #105 Dangerman

Too late.
You had the chance.
You voted *for* it

Works here too:

“Republicans keep trying to come up with a coherent message on abortion. And real life keeps intruding.”

Link

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:10:06am

re: #106 JC1

EU should suspend Hungary. They probably have the votes to do it now.

Fico of Slovakia is the only real wildcard on that. The EU should sound him out - behind the scenes, of course - and proceed accordingly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:14:52am

I’ll always take a beagle to start my day.

Good morning (afternoon, evening, wherever you are!) everyone!

YUhvM242dGE1ZE9WYm0wWDBLVW82ZHNiVmRPQzY0V0hxTlRtaytrNU9tRXRnOExjdWxYNVZtZFY3RERvUVd4cnU0MXR5NFFSeitYVUR2YTVzS3lzckRiOTJ2b2ZLeldwLzNJSkFzSnowMGc9Ojqx7NOnyIeWaS5OjsQjud9N

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:22:51am

re: #107 Dangerman

Man, first an article about military at the border with that ghoul Stephen Miller driving it and now this. They are getting the band back together. Christ.

Kellyanne Conway, a former Trump aide, even went to Capitol Hill this week to urge Republicans to pivot — talk less about banning abortion and more about protecting access to contraception.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:44:35am

Off to work - back later.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 4:58:35am

I stared at this for an embarrassingly long time.

Wordle 909 3/6*

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🟨⬛🟨⬛🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:28:14am

re: #100 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

This one is growing on me, slowly.

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Also, have a Wordle.

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3 here too!

Wordle 909 3/6

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🟨🟩⬜⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Group: 3,3,3,3

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:30:38am

Sneaky assed loved ones that want to snoop before Christmas? Try these locations to hide their presents. I just wrap mine at my office and leave them here. Gift wrapping, doggy daycare, flat tire fixing, knife sharpening, carburetor cleaning and many other services provided here in my office.

Holiday storage bins
The Christmas tree box
Stacks of empty shipping boxes
Suitcases
Coolers
The spare tire well of your trunk (don’t take your spare tire out, you will definitely get a flat)
Under your kid’s bed
Someone else’s house

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:44:30am

re: #110 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But Conservatives want to ban contraception too though so Kellyanne’s mission is doomed to fail.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:50:02am

re: #7 Joe Bacon ✅

Trump Co-Defendants Pen VERY Brief Apology Letters for Election Crimes

[snip]

wow you can just feel all the remorse they put into composing those required statements…

thedailybeast.com

I’m Sorry

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Randall Gross  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:53:36am
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Randall Gross  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:54:08am

re: #117 Randall Gross

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We have binders full of Russians…

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Randall Gross  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:04:16am
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Randall Gross  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:06:02am

NYT gift article : Behind the Scenes at the Dismantling of Roe v. Wade
nytimes.com

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:12:41am

re: #117 Randall Gross

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bsky.app

You know it’s in a box in a shower at MAL

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:14:00am

re: #121 Dangerman

You know it’s in a box in a shower at MAL

Or burnt in Mark Meadows fireplace at the White House.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:14:32am

re: #121 Dangerman

You know it’s in a box in a shower at MAL

Ok or maybe under Ivana

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:15:11am

re: #117 Randall Gross

Gee who could have that missing folder?

Here’s a hint!

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:16:22am
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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:17:22am

re: #124 Joe Bacon ✅

Gee who could have that missing folder?

Here’s a hint!

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Just waking up…again…I figured someone already saw this.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:19:14am

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:19:18am

re: #126 darthstar

Just waking up…again…I figured someone already saw this.

They sure did see it…safe in their office at the Kremlin!

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:33:38am

re: #128 Joe Bacon ✅

They sure did see it…safe in their office at the Kremlin!

How did he know about it? There had to be people who helped him gather intel to steal. They all deserve to rot in prison together.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:35:09am

Republicans Start Biden Impeachment With No Evidence | Live from San Jose

The word impeachment has value - it’s got a meaning and the GOP is pushing the notion of impeaching Biden regardless of facts or reality. They have no evidence of anything even remotely criminal. It is totally bulkshit, and it’s completely irrelevant to the GOP.

The GOP knows that the only way to retain power is to smear Biden with the word impeachment on a daily basis, even if they don’t actually take it to a vote. It’s the Benghazi strategy, Hillary emails, and Whitewater, all rolled into one.

They want us to keep talking about the Biden horse race with Trump over impeachment, and magic balance fairy bulkshit between the two, when Trump is facing life in prison and incarceration for 91 felonies across multiple jurisdictions after grand juries found sufficient evidence to charge. GOP doesn’t even have any evidence sufficient to convince even members of the House or Senate that there’s something to impeach for.

It’s a naked political ploy, and they know it. They also know the media will cover for the GOP on this.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:38:14am

Why is it that municipal cuts always fall on libraries, and not on … you know… other stuff.

Municipalities know libraries have constituencies that love them and rely on them, so it means that city councils and municipal governments do a political dance to “save” the libraries and restore the cuts, while doing nothing to address spending elsewhere that is often bloated.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:43:33am

re: #131 lawhawk

They figure that libraries are expendable. As both of us know they are not (I have not forgotten the LGF families). Many people rely on them not only for books and periodicals. Libraries are wired and can provide many more services to those who do not have an internet connection at home. Language services are also available at libraries. Cities will always pick on the libraries because they are traditionally an easy target.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2023 • 6:50:03am

re: #132 PhillyPretzel ✅

They figure that libraries are expendable. As both of us know they are not (I have not forgotten the LGF families). Many people rely on them not only for books and periodicals. Libraries are wired and can provide many more services to those who do not have an internet connection at home. Language services are also available at libraries. Cities will always pick on the libraries because they are traditionally an easy target.

And libraries also provide free programs for toddlers, kids, and teens. That’s invaluable, especially for parents struggling to enrich their kids’ lives.

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dat_said  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:03:04am

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Big news in vexillology:

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Video

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The guy articulated my thoughts quite well. “Old Wavy” looks like something a regional mall would have done for branding in the ‘80’s. Plus, it looks awful in the wind and confusing hanging vertically. “Star Rise” is ok mediocre, looks reasonable in the wind but confusing hanging vertically. I really like the “Polaris Tricolor”. The “K” shape that looks like MN is kiss ass and surprisingly that inverted triangle shape of the K is not in any other flag. I also like how the tricolor part looks in the wind and this is a flag that can be hung vertically and still look good.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:05:53am

re: #112 Nerdy Fish

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:13:49am
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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:15:26am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

S2hZcHpMU3hpZlNZZGVXcHVrYW14M1JRVVV4Sno4VHBTaC9iN0FhaG92cisxYklhWFdrekcvOExMdVpIUmlmcVNMRkNYaURETWk1S3c5ekNsbk8wTitWOXY1NE5Xam0rUTdrNFFoL2tEcHJlT3N2OTF2bFU0anpFZjVuNUlOTVY5a2YwaUxaTmd4ajNYanhpcjM2anZCK2hzaXBCRWJ3aFhyL0xINVpyU3E2UEc4cGlobVRJbHo3TzdxbVl4UWd2Ojq7e6svyocBQGIaOerWqOwb

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:16:01am

And today, I learned how to embed emojis in LGF on a desktop computer, without an emoji keyboard.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:20:02am

re: #138 Nerdy Fish

And today, I learned how to embed emojis in LGF on a desktop computer, without an emoji keyboard.

….and?

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:22:43am

re: #71 Dave In Austin

He was arrested. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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We could tear down and behead a Christian fascist idol in retaliation, but Putin is reported to have better security than the Iowa state capitol.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:23:33am

re: #139 darthstar

….and?

Didn’t know there needed to be an “and” there. They’re Unicode characters, just like anything else. You can look them up here. I’m struggling to figure out how to explain how to translate them into characters that can be inserted here from that point, though. At least, in terms normal people could understand.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:23:58am

re: #110 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Man, first an article about military at the border with that ghoul Stephen Miller driving it and now this. They are getting the band back together. Christ.

Except this is more like calling the crew back while the ship is still sinking.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:25:48am

re: #131 lawhawk

Why is it that municipal cuts always fall on libraries, and not on … you know… other stuff.

Municipalities know libraries have constituencies that love them and rely on them, so it means that city councils and municipal governments do a political dance to “save” the libraries and restore the cuts, while doing nothing to address spending elsewhere that is often bloated.

It’s the same reason the first thing companies do when they start worrying about money is tell employees their benefits are going to have to be cut: Humans will suffer with less, machines won’t.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:26:04am

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:26:41am

re: #136 jeffreyw

What’s a sideloaded book?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:26:55am

Another birb for another Friday.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:29:24am

re: #138 Nerdy Fish

And today, I learned how to embed emojis in LGF on a desktop computer, without an emoji keyboard.

Windows desktop? Windows key + the period “.” key

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:29:30am

re: #141 Nerdy Fish

Didn’t know there needed to be an “and” there. They’re Unicode characters, just like anything else. You can look them up here. I’m struggling to figure out how to explain how to translate them into characters that can be inserted here from that point, though. At least, in terms normal people could understand.

Well, if it’s that easy… U+1F643

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:30:04am

Roses of yesterday.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:30:51am

re: #149 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Ohh. That is a pretty one.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:31:18am

re: #148 darthstar

Well, if it’s that easy… U+1F643

Yeah, I had to convert the part to the right of the + from hex to normal decimal, and then put &# in front of it and ; after it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:31:32am

2 dental implants yesterday. Post op and all day yesterday was awesome.

My body hates me today.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:32:54am

re: #152 Dave In Austin

That is why one normally gets a few days of pain meds. I was on them for a few days. I still cannot remember what happened during that time.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:33:17am

re: #147 jeffreyw

Windows desktop? Windows key + the period “.” key

That worked for Windows 11, so that’s very good to know.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:33:40am

re: #145 Belafon

What’s a sideloaded book?

.epub e books , books in .pdf, and other formats can be sent to your Kindle library
amazon.com

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:33:54am

U+1F643
🙃
Aha! in Linux, Ctrl-shft-u then type the unicode value (above) and hit enter.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:35:37am

re: #156 darthstar

U+1F643
🙃
Aha! in Linux, Ctrl-shft-u then type the unicode value (above) and hit enter.

You don’t see any text after ctrl-shift-u until you hit enter and then magic.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:37:52am

re: #153 PhillyPretzel ✅

I got all that stuff. Norco act funny with me. It takes me a couple of doses to kick in. With that, the big Ibuprofens and the initial dose of a Z-pac had the world sideways and my puking in the wastebasket at 4am.

Everything is just slow now

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:38:22am

re: #119 Randall Gross

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“With the notable exception of popularity.” That’s because 60% of whites in this country are only happy with hating others, not actually making things better.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:42:05am

A thing I learned yesterday: you can invoke wsl in windows by typing - wait for it -

wsl

in a command window.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:44:16am

re: #153 PhillyPretzel ✅

That is why one normally gets a few days of pain meds. I was on them for a few days. I still cannot remember what happened during that time.

I’m allergic to everything codeine or morphine based, whether synthetic or whatever. I have one pain med that works for me (demerol) that doesn’t make me puke or feel like my hair is standing up and walking around on my head, which they almost never prescribe any longer. I have to really bitch and moan to get it and the doctors give me a really hard time about giving me a prescription.

Pain sucks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:45:47am

Disturbing

This is the appalling moment a local politician let off three grenades in a village council meeting in Ukraine.

The man, named as council representative Serhiy Batrin, 54, is seen entering the meeting late and standing by the door during a heated discussion at the session in Keretsk, in the Zakarpattia region.

He is seen taking two grenades from his pocket as he begins talking, appearing irate.

Holding a grenade in each hand, he then asks ‘may I’, before tossing them on the floor close to him and a seated woman council member.

Footage catches the distressing moment of the explosion. The man detonated a third grenade, too, according to reports citing law enforcement.

dailymail.co.uk

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:48:50am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:55:02am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Hamas is a very nasty bunch. Someone should spread these pictures to a wider audience.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:56:54am

re: #164 PhillyPretzel ✅

Hamas is a very nasty bunch. Someone should spread these pictures to a wider audience.

Some people will say that (((BeeBee))) rigged these booby traps in order to lure Palestinian children into the tunnels.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 7:58:09am

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

That is a possibility. Everyone has to walk a very fine line in the Middle East.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:16:07am

::: hanging head in shame :::
Another entry for Philly Pretzel’s Thread Killers.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:19:14am

re: #92 silverdolphin

A quick check shows there are about 500,000 active army personnel based in the US. The National Guard is about the same. So a quarter of the entire land-based forces of the US along the border, doing police work.

I want to see the head of logistics when assigned to deal with making this happen. Along some of the most desolate in the US, without good roads or infrastructure. Should be fun.

The other side is controlled by a collection of cartels. Heavily armed. Extremely well-financed. Operating by their own rules.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:24:53am

re: #117 Randall Gross

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The graphic with that article is way too clever.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:30:00am

Oh that little scamp Comer Pyle blaming Joe for the same shtick he does!

newrepublic.com

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:30:40am

re: #147 jeffreyw

Windows desktop? Windows key + the period “.” key

Some of it is Greek to me.

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rhuarc  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:31:08am

re: #130 lawhawk

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The word impeachment has value - it’s got a meaning and the GOP is pushing the notion of impeaching Biden regardless of facts or reality. They have no evidence of anything even remotely criminal. It is totally bulkshit, and it’s completely irrelevant to the GOP.

The GOP knows that the only way to retain power is to smear Biden with the word impeachment on a daily basis, even if they don’t actually take it to a vote. It’s the Benghazi strategy, Hillary emails, and Whitewater, all rolled into one.

They want us to keep talking about the Biden horse race with Trump over impeachment, and magic balance fairy bulkshit between the two, when Trump is facing life in prison and incarceration for 91 felonies across multiple jurisdictions after grand juries found sufficient evidence to charge. GOP doesn’t even have any evidence sufficient to convince even members of the House or Senate that there’s something to impeach for.

It’s a naked political ploy, and they know it. They also know the media will cover for the GOP on this.

The White House should just ignore everything about this. Let the House sue. Let the courts decide. And if the courts decide against the WH their response should be “Who’s going to enforce it? You want a dictator for a day, here’s your dictator for a day. Get fucked.”

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:32:40am

re: #89 Belafon

They would call for a massive sentence if someone destroyed the Christian one.

Yeah. You know they would be calling for blood if I took a dump in the nativity scene manger.

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A Cranky One  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:33:25am

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mmmirele  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:33:54am

I think that in my 63 years of life, and the number of colds / flu / bronchitis / etc. I’ve had during that time, I believe I am now experiencing something new—a bruised or broken rib from coughing so hard. Or at least something on my lower right side is hurting when I cough. And I’m doing a lot of that right now. Blargh.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:35:20am

Dana Milbank’s on a roll:

Worst. Congress. Ever.

A year ago, I assigned myself to the Capitol to cover the new House Republican majority, suspecting that this erratic crowd of lawmakers would provide some lively material.

They did not disappoint. What I could not have known then, however, was that this would turn out to be the most ineffective session of Congress in nearly a century — and quite possibly in all of American history.

The year began with chaos and incompetence. It ended with chaos and incompetence. In between were self-created crises and shocking moments of fratricide — interspersed with more chaos and incompetence…

On impeachment:

To this, the Republicans added extraneous insults. Rep. Ralph Norman (S.C.) alleged that Biden is “cognitively gone,” saying, “The man is not there. … He doesn’t know where he is.” And yet at the same time Republicans allege that he is the mastermind of the greatest political scandal in U.S. history.

The debate on the House floor was no more illuminating. Comer, keeping his place in his speech with his finger, prattled on about “schemes” and “shell companies.”

Norman offered a novel twist on the whole innocent-until-proven-guilty concept. “You cannot, just not, uh, say you are innocent and not have to prove it,” he told the House…

Democrat Eric Swalwell (Calif.) congratulated Republicans for their dogged pursuit of the president’s son. “I want to give James Comer some credit,” he told the House, “because after 50,000 pages of depositions and secret hearings and closed hearings, I think if we give him enough time, he is going to prove that Hunter Biden is Joe Biden’s son.”

After the do-nothingest congressional session in U.S. history, that might go down as their most notable achievement.

Much more at the gift link:

wapo.st

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:35:47am

re: #175 mmmirele

I think that in my 63 years of life, and the number of colds / flu / bronchitis / etc. I’ve had during that time, I believe I am now experiencing something new—a bruised or broken rib from coughing so hard. Or at least something on my lower right side is hurting when I cough. And I’m doing a lot of that right now. Blargh.

See your doctor!

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:42:21am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

See your doctor!

AND, take a couple sick days and use all your vacation days.

Billie Holiday & Her Orchestra - Do Nothing “Till You Hear From Me (Verve Records 1956)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:48:40am

re: #175 mmmirele

Call Dr or Urgent Care!!!!!!!

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:52:24am

re: #175 mmmirele

RSV is going around, and adults can catch it.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:53:54am

The green birb of luck. Wordle 909 3/6*

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

The luck in 2 showed a need for luck in choosing among 3 to get 3.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:54:43am

Just want to point out re: deploying troops inside the US

Its not just moving and supplying the boots.
Even assuming they’d just obey (enough wont)

No. There’s a chain of command
they take their oaths seriously
there’s not enough who would agree to ordering this nonsense

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:59:03am

re: #182 Dangerman

Just want to point out re: deploying troops inside the US

Its not just moving and supplying the boots.
Even assuming they’d just obey (enough wont)

No. There’s a chain of command
they take their oaths seriously
there’s not enough who would agree to ordering this nonsense

“Chain of Command” is just another term for “Deep State”!!!

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 8:59:35am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

See your doctor!

As was said, could be something (check it out)

Or could merely be muscle strain from all the coughing

Don’t read webmd:

Its a cough?
You’re gonna die.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:00:38am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Chain of Command” is just another term for “Deep State”!!!

Yeah
We used to call it institutional memory and expertise

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:04:54am

em>re: #171 wrenchwench

Some of it is Greek to me.

If some of that text is in Greek, select it and right click to find “translate selection to English”.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:07:21am

re: #184 Dangerman

Don’t read webmd:

Its a cough?
You’re gonna die.

There was a period of time where Mrs. Fish was reading WebMD for a variety of things, mental and physical. Nearly drove me nuts how many times I had to say, “No, it’s not that, relax.”

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:07:38am

re: #173 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. You know they would be calling for blood if I took a dump in the nativity scene manger.

Whatever you do, don’t wipe with the swaddling cloth.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:08:55am

re: #100 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿

This one is growing on me, slowly.

[Embedded content]

Also, have a Wordle.

[Embedded content]

I worked a 4/6 today

Wordle 909 4/6

⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
🟩⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩⬜⬜🟩🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:10:02am

re: #104 darthstar

Loves me some moe. Think I’ve seen them over 15 times.

I’ve only seen them once. Was a fun show.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:15:32am

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

Some people will say that (((BeeBee))) rigged these booby traps in order to lure Palestinian children into the tunnels.

He financed Hamas. Isn’t that enough?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:18:12am

re: #185 Dangerman

Yeah
We used to call it institutional memory and expertise

eleitist jargone!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:19:07am

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following a comment supporting some RW propaganda? Which RW TV or Internet personality assures their braindead followers that they are independent thinkers if they toe the party line? Is that a Joe Rogan thing? Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro? Other? All of them?

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:20:04am

re: #186 jeffreyw

em>re: #171 wrenchwench

If some of that text is in Greek, select it and right click to find “translate selection to English”.

There are menus within menus. Under ‘symbols’, the final choice is ‘Language symbols’. Looks like the Greek alphabet with some other characters also.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:29:36am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

“I think for myself” = “Don’t ask me for sources”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:30:00am

re: #195 wrenchwench

“I think for myself” = “Don’t ask me for sources”

“I do my research on the shitter!”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:31:45am

re: #195 wrenchwench

Or the answer is something so vast you could not begin to research it. What is your source? The internet. My next question is: Where on the internet? I usually get no answer.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:32:01am

re: #194 wrenchwench

There are menus within menus. Under ‘symbols’, the final choice is ‘Language symbols’. Looks like the Greek alphabet with some other characters also.

Yeah it takes some getting used to, But if you play with it long enough you will get the hang of it. It will remember the last few things that you’ve selected so if you have a frequent use for a symbol it will be there for you easily.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:34:48am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following some comment supporting some RW propaganda? Which RW TV or Internet personality assures their braindead followers that they are independent thinkers if they toe the party line? Is that a Joe Rogan thing? Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro? Other? All of them?

It’s all of them. They think it’s a mark of pride that they don’t listen to “the establishment.” They believe that “science” = “any layperson can challenge anything at any time, and you have to take me seriously.” We were talking earlier about Answers in Genesis; they’re one of the groups that have promulgated this kind of thinking throughout the right wing ecosystem. The whole point is to promote the idea that religious beliefs should be held equal to scientifically accepted consensus in terms of being accepted as serious and viable theories, so that they can hold their “theories” up in the face of doubters and say, “But we have science too!”

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:43:18am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following a comment supporting some RW propaganda? Which RW TV or Internet personality assures their braindead followers that they are independent thinkers if they toe the party line? Is that a Joe Rogan thing? Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro? Other? All of them?

It’s a universal thing. It’s garden variety preemptive denial resulting from the fact that humans are intrinsically mimetic creatures and the unifying trait of the right being a toxic mix of hubristic narcissism with a bully / toady gang mentality. When one’s entire worldview is rooted in both pyhcopathic individualism and the myth of meritocracy combined with the supremacy of their in-group and their place within its social dominance hierarchy there’s naturally going to need to be some subconscious awareness of the disconnect, which requires dissonance reduction. That reduction comes in the form of turning “I’m a free thinking individualist” into a self soothing mantra.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:45:58am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following a comment supporting some RW propaganda?

“The Titanic was built by engineers, the Ark was built by amateurs!”

(quote from a real speech given by a US Representative on the floor of the House)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:45:59am

re: #199 Nerdy Fish

It’s all of them. They think it’s a mark of pride that they don’t listen to “the establishment.” They believe that “science” = “any layperson can challenge anything at any time, and you have to take me seriously.” We were talking earlier about Answers in Genesis; they’re one of the groups that have promulgated this kind of thinking throughout the right wing ecosystem. The whole point is to promote the idea that religious beliefs should be held equal to scientifically accepted consensus in terms of being accepted as serious and viable theories, so that they can hold their “theories” up in the face of doubters and say, “But we have science too!”

It really seemed to take off with the anti-vaxxers — telling people who had no training in biology, epidemiology, or medicine to conduct their own research in the appropriate treatment for a novel disease.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:46:47am

This just showed in my You Tube page.

Memories of Sid Mark’s Sunday’s With Sinatra and his Mark Of Jazz on PBS.

Youtube Video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:47:24am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

It really seemed to take off with the anti-vaxxers — telling people who had no training in biology, epidemiology, or medicine to conduct their own research in the appropriate treatment for a novel disease.

“You have to be open to all points of view, not just peer-reviewed science performed by people who have studied the subject in depth for years and decades!”

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austin_blue  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:50:06am

re: #42 So Cal Greek Hippie

?
No , but I think I could fake it for the yokels though

Obscure Tom Pynchon reference from Gavity’s Rainbow.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:50:13am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

It really seemed to take off with the anti-vaxxers — telling people who had no training in biology, epidemiology, or medicine to conduct their own research in the appropriate treatment for a novel disease.

The story of Noah’s Ark and the Flood has kind of underpinned that, though. Anti-vaxxers have their roots in religious communities - Christian Science for one, I think, but also various flavors of evangelical Protestantism that take “your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit” too literally and/or seriously. Way too many people, for way too long, have taken the early books of the Bible as literal historical readouts of the beginning of the world.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:50:15am

re: #198 jeffreyw

Yeah it takes some getting used to, But if you play with it long enough you will get the hang of it. It will remember the last few things that you’ve selected so if you have a frequent use for a symbol it will be there for you easily.

It removes a very useful excuse. No umlauts on my keyboard. Also, this one:

ç

and all the accents in Spanish. Duo Lingo provides for those, and incessantly reminds me for not using them.

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:50:24am

bill maher tonight:

Ray Romano, Walter Kim, Laura Coates

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:51:09am

re: #203 Joe Bacon ✅

This just showed in my You Tube page.

Memories of Sid Mark’s Sunday’s With Sinatra and his Mark Of Jazz on PBS.

[Embedded content]

Is it bad that I read that as “Skid Mark’s” my first read through 😁😁

Edited to add smiley faces.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:53:00am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

It really seemed to take off with the anti-vaxxers — telling people who had no training in biology, epidemiology, or medicine to conduct their own research in the appropriate treatment for a novel disease.

That’s one reason I have never liked the term ‘citizen scientist’. Anarchy in the peer review concept.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:55:37am

Part of the reason I was an outcast as a teenager was because I wasn’t fundamentalist enough for the nutjobs I went to church with, but I was too fundamentalist for the normal relapsed Catholics I went to school with. My parents took care to make sure I was vaccinated, had a proper education in a public school that included things we didn’t agree with, and socialized with kids and adults who believed differently.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 9:59:47am

re: #211 Nerdy Fish

Part of the reason I was an outcast as a teenager was because I wasn’t fundamentalist enough for the nutjobs I went to church with, but I was too fundamentalist for the normal relapsed Catholics I went to school with. My parents took care to make sure I was vaccinated, had a proper education in a public school that included things we didn’t agree with, and socialized with kids and adults who believed differently.

And look what happened. You’ve already rejected Christian nationalism, and could wind up post-Christian if you keep rejecting the things that American Christians do today.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:00:33am

I remembered my NUC has wide-field mics so I enabled this and have been playing with it this morning. The mics do a Pretty good job of realizing what I’m saying, I’m still struggling with punctuation.

Mastodon

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Teukka  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:00:47am
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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:02:14am

re: #214 Teukka

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Give up a bargaining chip? Too early.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:02:26am

re: #214 Teukka

Are we sure it’s not just Mitt’s binder full of women?
/

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:03:16am

re: #214 Teukka

A binder containing highly classified information related to Russian election interference went missing at the end of Donald Trump’s presidency, raising alarms among intelligence officials that some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

Its disappearance, which has not been previously reported, was so concerning that intelligence officials briefed Senate Intelligence Committee leaders last year about the missing materials and the government’s efforts to retrieve them, the sources said.

In the two-plus years since Trump left office, the missing intelligence does not appear to have been found.

The binder contained raw intelligence the US and its NATO allies collected on Russians and Russian agents, including sources and methods that informed the US government’s assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin sought to help Trump win the 2016 election, sources tell CNN.

The intelligence was so sensitive that lawmakers and congressional aides with top secret security clearances were able to review the material only at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, where their work scrutinizing it was itself kept in a locked safe.

edition.cnn.com

Arrest him now.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:06:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:06:47am

re: #106 JC1

EU should suspend Hungary. They probably have the votes to do it now.

THIS

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:07:33am

re: #214 Teukka

Do you think they will listen to Keith? Most likely not. I wish they would.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:08:45am

Recovery bingeing “30 Coins” on this dreary Centex day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:09:23am

re: #206 Nerdy Fish

The story of Noah’s Ark and the Flood has kind of underpinned that, though. Anti-vaxxers have their roots in religious communities - Christian Science for one, I think, but also various flavors of evangelical Protestantism that take “your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit” too literally and/or seriously. Way too many people, for way too long, have taken the early books of the Bible as literal historical readouts of the beginning of the world.

Don’t the Covid anti-vaxxers have a different origin story, not tied to the Bible, but tied to Republican news outlets? I have acquaintances who had been vaccinated over the years but who objected strenuously to the Covid vaccine, because it had not been subjected to the years of testing that accompanied past vaccines nor was it a traditional style vaccine.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:09:56am

re: #220 PhillyPretzel ✅

No, and calling Trump an imminent threat is ridiculous. That ship has sailed. He’s attempted a coup, and revealed our national secrets. He’s an ongoing threat because of his worse-than-worthless fans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:11:24am

re: #214 Teukka

“The binder is still missing.”

Has anyone checked the Kremlin?

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Jay C  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:12:22am

re: #106 JC1

EU should suspend Hungary. They probably have the votes to do it now.

Yeah, what’s Orban gonna do?
Referendum “Hungrexit” and re.join the Warsaw Pact?
That. Should go over well…

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:12:55am

re: #222 Hecuba’s daughter

Don’t the Covid anti-vaxxers have a different origin story, not tied to the Bible, but tied to Republican news outlets? I have acquaintances who had been vaccinated over the years but who objected strenuously to the Covid vaccine, because it had not been subjected to the years of testing that accompanied past vaccines nor was it a traditional style vaccine.

It’s all part of the same problem. A party run by people who pander to religious extremists, or are themselves religious extremists, does not care about science or truth at all. They just spend their time sharing their delusions with each other, trying to feel superior to people who care about facts.

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Nerdy Fish  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:14:27am

re: #222 Hecuba’s daughter

Don’t the Covid anti-vaxxers have a different origin story, not tied to the Bible, but tied to Republican news outlets? I have acquaintances who had been vaccinated over the years but who objected strenuously to the Covid vaccine, because it had not been subjected to the years of testing that accompanied past vaccines nor was it a traditional style vaccine.

Yes, but only tangentially. COVID anti-vaxxers come from the whole cult of Trump, so while they’re still religious fundamentalists, they are only anti-science insomuch as it suits the purposes of the MAGA cult to which they belong.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:15:52am

re: #220 PhillyPretzel ✅

Do you think they will listen to Keith? Most likely not. I wish they would.

Not reading the comments is self-care.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:17:33am

re: #228 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Not reading the comments is self-care.

He posted to a white nationalist hell-site, so that’s not surprising.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:17:33am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following a comment supporting some RW propaganda? Which RW TV or Internet personality assures their braindead followers that they are independent thinkers if they toe the party line? Is that a Joe Rogan thing? Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro? Other? All of them?

We all think for ourselves.

Some just do it better than others

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:18:01am

hey, lookee here. Umphrey’s McGee on the Late Show twitter feed!! Somebody here’s going to be happy about that.

“Staircase” - Umphrey’s McGee

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:18:43am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is it that the phrase “I think for myself” always appears following a comment supporting some RW propaganda? Which RW TV or Internet personality assures their braindead followers that they are independent thinkers if they toe the party line? Is that a Joe Rogan thing? Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro? Other? All of them?

Tucker does tell his thralls that they think for themselves as they outsource their thinking to him.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:20:50am

The mostly-reliable media say one thing, but a propagandist says something else in an extremely whiny voice. Who is an idiot going to believe? Usually, the whining propagandist.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:21:58am

Merle’s nemesis.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:22:23am

re: #234 darthstar

Merle’s nemesis.

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Nice profile shot.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:23:11am

re: #199 Nerdy Fish

It’s all of them. They think it’s a mark of pride that they don’t listen to “the establishment.” They believe that “science” = “any layperson can challenge anything at any time, and you have to take me seriously.” We were talking earlier about Answers in Genesis; they’re one of the groups that have promulgated this kind of thinking throughout the right wing ecosystem. The whole point is to promote the idea that religious beliefs should be held equal to scientifically accepted consensus in terms of being accepted as serious and viable theories, so that they can hold their “theories” up in the face of doubters and say, “But we have science too!”

Claim only works if you’re subject to the same rules of proof, evidence, review, independent repeatability etc.

Otherwise its not science

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:23:15am

re: #218 jeffreyw

Oldest fortresses in the world discovered

Attaching the word ‘fort’ to it has many implications. It could be just as, if not more, accurate to call it ‘the earliest known pantry’. Significantly pre-agricultural.

The prehistoric inhabitants caught fish from the Amnya River and hunted elk and reindeer using bone and stone-tipped spears. To preserve their surplus of fish oil and meat, they crafted elaborately decorated pottery.

Of course, such a pantry would require defense.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:23:58am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“The Titanic was built by engineers, the Ark was built by amateurs!”

(quote from a real speech given by a US Representative on the floor of the House)

The ark didn’t have to contend with icebergs

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:27:21am

re: #238 Dangerman

The ark didn’t have to contend with icebergs

The ark didn’t have to go anywhere.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:29:40am

re: #239 Belafon

The ark didn’t have to go anywhere.

It just sits in Kentucky, separating yahoos who insist on being lied to and their money.

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A Cranky One  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:32:05am

Talked to my older daughter last night. She said her husband has gotten really sick the last few days. Asked if he did a Covid test. No.

She texted me later to say it was Covid. Sigh. She is extremely immunocomprised so it’s scary. Guess our Christmas plans are changing.

Changing the subject, here is something for the folks who’ve had or have African Gray parrots:
reddit.com

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:32:28am

re: #239 Belafon

The ark didn’t have to go anywhere.

Touche

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:34:43am

re: #227 Nerdy Fish

Yes, but only tangentially. COVID anti-vaxxers come from the whole cult of Trump, so while they’re still religious fundamentalists, they are only anti-science insomuch as it suits the purposes of the MAGA cult to which they belong.

Except Trump supported the vaccine (at least at first) and was very proud of its speedy development. He was infuriated that the announcement of its release was made after the election. It was only after the MAGAts showed their opposition to the vaccine that he stopped endorsing it with same fervor.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:34:55am

re: #239 Belafon

The ark didn’t have to go anywhere.

Don’t look Marion.

Oh…. wait, wrong Ark? /

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:36:28am

re: #243 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Trump supported the vaccine (at least at first) and was very proud of its speedy development.(when he could take credit) He was infuriated that the announcement of its release was made after the election. It was only after the MAGAts showed their opposition to the vaccine that he stopped endorsing it with same fervor. (No benefit for him anymore)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:37:24am

Memories of the argument I had with a relative that Noah’s Ark is NOT on Mount Ararat and I sent this to him…

csun.edu

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:38:05am

re: #237 wrenchwench

Attaching the word ‘fort’ to it has many implications. It could be just as, if not more, accurate to call it ‘the earliest known pantry’. Significantly pre-agricultural.

Of course, such a pantry would require defense.

Another article, from the same site, shows the confusion raised by an archaeological site without evidence of hierarchy or military:

[…]

The Copper Age communities of the Iberian Peninsula produced one of the most important archaeological records of late prehistory, but at the same time also one of the most puzzling for specialists. How and why they achieved this great economic and social complexity, made evident by the number and size of the settlements, the creative capacity reflected in their objects, and the enormous circulation of goods that took place, is still a matter of debate.

[…]

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:39:30am

re: #241 A Cranky One

Talked to my older daughter last night. She said her husband has gotten really sick the last few days. Asked if he did a Covid test. No.

She texted me later to say it was Covid. Sigh. She is extremely immunocomprised so it’s scary. Guess our Christmas plans are changing.

Changing the subject, here is something for the folks who’ve had or have African Gray parrots:
reddit.com

People have stopped trying to avoid covid. I’m getting way too many invitations to upcoming gatherings. I decline most of them, because I’m only depressed enough to want to die when I’m extremely tired.

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Dangerman  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:40:07am

re: #246 Joe Bacon ✅

Memories of the argument I had with a relative that Noah’s Ark is NOT on Mount Ararat and I sent this to him…

csun.edu

If god is all powerful why didn’t he leave it up there for all times for all to see and live in proper awe and supplication to his mightiness?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:42:00am

re: #249 Dangerman

If god is all powerful why didn’t he leave it up there for all times for all to see and live in proper awe and supplication to his mightiness?

Hephaestus used to be into carpentry, but he prefers metal work these days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:42:38am

re: #225 Jay C

Yeah, what’s Orban gonna do?
Referendum “Hungrexit” and re.join the Warsaw Pact?
That. Should go over well…

He is leveraging for more aid and less concern about how he stifles freedom of the press and an independent judiciary in his country in contravention of EU standards

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:43:36am

re: #239 Belafon

The ark didn’t have to go anywhere.

and if it sprang a leak you could just stuff an elephant into the hole…

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A Cranky One  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:44:51am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and if it sprang a leak you could just stuff an elephant into the hole…

No, they used dinosaurs for that. Hence no dinos around now.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2023 • 10:50:36am

re: #237 wrenchwench

Attaching the word ‘fort’ to it has many implications. It could be just as, if not more, accurate to call it ‘the earliest known pantry’. Significantly pre-agricultural.

Of course, such a pantry would require defense.

Definitely, and not just from other people. Large, hungry local creatures would gladly take a free meal also.

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Markm1960  Dec 15, 2023 • 11:28:22am

re: #232 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Tucker does tell his thralls that they think for themselves as they outsource their thinking to him.

I have a friend who told me that his favorite Beatles song is “Think for Yourself” and then he would quote Glenn Beck monologues almost word for word. The irony was totally lost on him.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 11:32:39am

re: #255 Markm1960

I have a friend who told me that his favorite Beatles song is “Think for Yourself” and then he would quote Glenn Beck monologues almost word for word. The irony was totally lost on him.

Some people fully believe it when a propagandist that feeds them nonsense tells them that unlike those people they hate, they’re thinking for themselves.

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cat-tikvah  Dec 15, 2023 • 11:44:49am

re: #203 Joe Bacon ✅

This just showed in my You Tube page.

Memories of Sid Mark’s Sunday’s With Sinatra and his Mark Of Jazz on PBS.

[Embedded content]

Bit of family trivia:
My mother z’l’ dated Sid Mark (aka Sidney Fliegelman). He proposed to her.
Luckily for me, she said no and later married my dad.

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austin_blue  Dec 15, 2023 • 3:51:51pm

re: #182 Dangerman

Just want to point out re: deploying troops inside the US

Its not just moving and supplying the boots.
Even assuming they’d just obey (enough wont)

No. There’s a chain of command
they take their oaths seriously
there’s not enough who would agree to ordering this nonsense

Then there’s the whole Posse Comitatus Act thingie.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 15, 2023 • 5:52:19pm

re: #257 cat-tikvah

Bit of family trivia:
My mother z’l’ dated Sid Mark (aka Sidney Fliegelman). He proposed to her.
Luckily for me, she said no and later married my dad.

Little-known fact, he changed his name so he wouldn’t have to spell it every time someone took down his name, rather than for showbiz.

/This may not be a fact.


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