Veritasium: The Oldest Unsolved Problem in Math

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I ask you: do odd perfect numbers even exist?

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A massive thank you to Prof. Pace Nielsen for all his time and help with this video.

A big thank you to Dr. Asaf Karagila, Pascal Ochem, Prof. Tianxin Cai, and Prof. William Dunham for their expertise and help.

To try GIMPS out yourself: ve42.co

These sources were particularly helpful:
Perfect numbers via MacTutor - ve42.co
Cai, T. (2022). Perfect numbers and fibonacci sequences. World Scientific. - ve42.co
Dunham, W. (2022). Euler: The master of us all (Vol. 22). American Mathematical Society. - ve42.co

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Dickson, L. E. (1919). History of the Theory of Numbers.. (Vol. 1). Carnegie Institution of Washington.
Knill, O. (2007). The oldest open problem in mathematics. NEU Math Circle, December2. - ve42.co
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Ibn Fallus via Wikipedia - ve42.co
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List of Known Mersenne Prime Numbers - ve42.co
Marin Mersenne via MacTutor - ve42.co
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A Perfect (Math) Mystery via Medium - ve42.co
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397 comments
1
Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:43:31pm

Ok calling it a night. See you all tomorrow

2
darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:43:48pm

President Biden crushed Trump’s balls so much that Trump finally remembered where they are.

3
silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:46:23pm

He started the speech talking about WW2 and FDR. Then late in the speech he discussed his life story, demonstrating that he is a direct link back to that storied time. His age shows the progress of America. He was alive when FDR was and now he can lead us in a similar fashion. Wow. Great way to hit the age thing.

4
darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:46:37pm

Biden is doing it again. Johnson can’t leave the room until he does and he’s on the floor asking if anyone wants to sit down for a quick game of pinochle.

5
Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:47:26pm

re: #341 Scottish Dragon

Theses a very real chance that we lose Michigan because of this, and that means we lose the white house.

So you think Michigan Muslims are going to shoot themselves in the foot?

The primary was a protest vote. They know what’s coming if Trump wins.

6
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:47:34pm

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:48:06pm

re: #2 darthstar

President Biden crushed Trump’s balls so much that Trump finally remembered where they are.

In a jar in Russia?

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:49:20pm

Mastodon

9
Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:50:54pm

I went to Redstate
You’re welcome
Just curious
Liar, on drugs, liar, don’t believe him, cant even read, Thats not what the 2a says, Angry, unhinged, etc

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:51:57pm

re: #9 Dangerman

They’re projecting. Again.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:53:23pm

2024: Eucalyptus Trees at Sunset near Oxnard, California

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:53:23pm

“Ya’ kicked their asses, sir.”
“Yes, I did.”

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:54:05pm

Eavesdropping on the post-speech chit-chat
c-span.org

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:55:10pm

Look at her kitchen. 😂😂😂😂

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:55:30pm

Since I didn’t realize the speech had started upstairs, I’m re-posting this:

Been years since I bought a new phone, forgot how much there really is to set up. Add in all the new … “stuff” they’ve added (bloatware that needs uninstalling forex) and deciding how much of the “assistant” tech to actually enable: I’ll start off with a fair bit of it for now just to see if it really is of any assistance. It still feels silly to ask my phone a question “Hey Google” no matter how useful it might be.

I do like the folding capability, tucks into my pocket better. I’m slowly getting used to the gestures for the UI and there are actually some semi useful widgets these days. The little screen on the front when it’s closed is actually big enough to be useful - the reviewers seem to think it needs to be as big as the ones on the really expensive phones but not for me.

I wasn’t sure if wireless recharging would be a gimmick but I like having a specific place to a) put the phone down when I get home and know where it is and know it’s charging at the same time.

The camera, eh, who cares. I have too many real cameras to care. It will more than suffice for what little I use a phone camera for.

OTOH, the screen is nice, my games and music play well. Better CPU/memory performance, 2x storage & good battery life though the last phone had excellent battery performance so we’ll see on that.

First few days? 9/10 easily

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:56:18pm

I guarantee you - by the election, all these pro-Palestine people will not only be voting for Biden but be really excited about how he listened to them. He will accomplish what needs to be done in Israel. No other President in my lifetime is as good a politician as he is. He knows how to work the room and when to crack the whip.

Trust Biden. He has this covered.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:56:44pm

re: #5 Belafon

So you think Michigan Muslims are going to shoot themselves in the foot?

The primary was a protest vote. They know what’s coming if Trump wins.

Yes,I think they will sit on their hands and not vote at all because they are furious at being taken for granted and at seeing their compatriots and family members bombed to death with ordnance they paid for.

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cat-tikvah  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:56:55pm

re: #16 silverdolphin

I guarantee you - by the election, all these pro-Palestine people will not only be voting for Biden but be really excited about how he listened to them. He will accomplish what needs to be done in Israel. No other President in my lifetime is as good a politician as he is. He knows how to work the room and when to crack the whip.

Trust Biden. He has this covered.

Ken yehi ratzon.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:57:18pm

This rebuttal. 😂😂😂😂

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:57:48pm

I guess I’m back again for the Handmaid’s Senator comments

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:58:20pm

Why is this stepford senator smiling when she says families are hurting?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:58:45pm

WTF IS THIS.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:59:03pm

Wtf??

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:59:09pm

re: #18 cat-tikvah

Ken yehi ratzon.

I had to look that up and it made me tear up. Thanks. I hope for a better world and I really think Biden is a pathway there.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:59:13pm

Speaker Jesusbot getting slammed

‘Unqualified twerp’: Experts mock Johnson’s constant ‘pained expression’ during SOTU

The Guardian reporter Hugo Lowell commented, “impressive how speaker johnson has managed to maintain the same pained expression for almost an hour.”

MSNBC legal analyst Andrew Weissmann wrote, “Mike Johnson needs an expression other than a smirk.”

USA Today columnist Rex Hippie said, “Mike Johnson, with his facial expressions, is perfectly encapsulating the d—ck-ish, smug, unjustified sense of superiority of the Trumpian right. An unqualified twerp thrust into a position of power. #SOTU2024”

The anti-Trump group Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson added, “Mike Johnson won’t even stand in condemnation of Vladimir Putin. P—sy.”

Mike Murphy said, “Mike Johnson wouldn’t stand to clap for ending cancer #SOTU”

The Recount tweeted, “President Biden slams congressional Republicans in a remarkably straightforward way, saying ‘some of you here seek to bury the truth about January 6th.’ Behind him, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) rolls his eyes and shakes his head.”

Media Matters for America fellow Matthew Gertz added, “MIKE JOHNSON IS AGAINST EVERY CHILD LEARNING TO READ BY THIRD GRADE COME ON MAN.”

alternet.org

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:59:33pm

re: #83 GlutenFreeJesus

Joe will mess up a few words here and there. Line we all would in such a circumstance, and we will have weeks of talking heads suddenly becoming medical professionals and memory care specialists.

Like Sen. Bill Frist (an M.D.) diagnosing Terri Schiavo after watching a fucking video tape. That incident is when I started to walk (run?) away from the right.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 7:59:46pm

Stay away from the rebuttal. Known to break blood vessels and destroy brain cells.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:00:21pm

Sooooo… women are being repeatedly raped by cartels and the answer is to make it to get asylum?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:00:45pm

re: #27 silverdolphin

Stay away from the rebuttal. Known to break blood vessels and destroy brain cells.

And destroy any potential future for the designated dimwit dumb enough to deliver it.

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:01:00pm

From down below:

re: #344 silverdolphin

Gantz isn’t beginning to emerge as the man who could replace Bibi - he’s been obliterating him in all of the surveys and projections since November, which have the Pro-Netanyahu political bloc effectively smashed to pieces.
It isn’t even close. A whopping 84% of Israelis want Netanyahu gone, and that includes many in his own party, some of whom are already publicly discussing the day after his inevitable post-war departure. Likud is currently staring into the abyss that is a staggering political crash not seen in decades (losing half its parliamentary power at best). This was reinforced in the past week after Israel finally had its municipal elections - postponed several times since October - and the Bibi-supporting parties all suffered badly across the country.
The asshole is on borrowed time solely due to a broad national view that “it’s bad to have elections during a war”, which he’s been taking advantage of.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:01:03pm

This is a protestant church testimonial masquerading ad a SOTU response

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:01:19pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Sooooo… women are being repeatedly raped by cartels and the answer is to make it to get asylum?

This only started to happen on 1/6/21.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:01:25pm

Worst asacp commercial ever

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:02:02pm

Seriously. LOOK AT HER KITCHEN. She’s not struggling. Not one bit.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:02:57pm

re: #30 (((Archangel1)))

From the last thread:

Gantz isn’t beginning to emerge as the man who could replace Bibi - he’s been obliterating him in all of the surveys and projections since November, which have the Pro-Netanyahu political bloc effectively smashed to pieces.
It isn’t even close. A whopping 84% of Israelis want Netanyahu gone, and that includes many in his own party, some of whom are already publicly discussing the day after his eventual post-war departure. Likud is currently staring into the abyss that is a staggering political crash not seen in decades (losing half its parliamentary power at best). This was reinforced in the past week after Israel finally had it’s municipal elections - postponed several times since October - and the Bibi-supporting parties all suffered badly across the country.
The asshole is on borrowed time solely due to a broad national view that “it’s bad to have elections during a war”, which he’s been taking advantage of.

How many does he lose for his government for fall? That would be amazing in a time of ‘war’ but it may need to happen.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:03:19pm

re: #31 Scottish Dragon

This is a protestant church testimonial masquerading ad a SOTU response

Well some of the Rs walked out because this was “beneath the president.” “It was a full blown campaign speech”

Right. No ones ever done that before

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BeachDem  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:03:27pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

This rebuttal. 😂😂😂😂

I lasted approximately 15 seconds, then had to run screaming from the room

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:04:14pm

Its like listening to the neighbor hood Karen, who is also the head of the HOA.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:04:41pm

CNN fact check Biden
So far they are all true

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sagehen  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:04:51pm

re: #35 silverdolphin

How many does he lose for his government for fall? That would be amazing in a time of ‘war’ but it may need to happen.

He has the narrowest possible margin; if he loses even one or two seats his coalition collapses. And all the recent polls say if the election were today, he’d lose dozens.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:04:57pm

Are we sure this isn’t an SNL cold open?

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:05:14pm

@paulwaldman.bsky.social

Katie Britt is like an acting student delivering a monologue with every bit of emotion she can muster. This is like a scene from season 1 of “Barry”

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:05:31pm

She has no idea how to relate to the camera, and she’s coming off as the sort of person you politely excuse yourself from at a party.

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BeachDem  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:06:06pm

re: #26 Ace Rothstein

Like Sen. Bill Frist (an M.D.) diagnosing Terri Schiavo after watching a fucking video tape. That incident is when I started to walk (run?) away from the right.

I was always on the left, but that was the night I reactivated my regular involvement.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:06:18pm

Katie Britt, you had one job.

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jeffreyw  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:06:26pm

re: #38 Egregious Philbin

Its like listening to the neighbor hood Karen, who is also the head of the HOA.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:06:39pm

What. Is. This.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:06:40pm

Into the Jindal bin you go.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:07:27pm

ohmagod. I woke up for this, and it’s like watching Annette Funnicello explain the Punic Wars to the Mouseketeers.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:07:33pm
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:08:25pm

I’m watching with sheer fascination at this point. Her body language reminds me of obsessed girlfriend memes.

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Orange Impostor  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:09:00pm

This has to be one of the most vapid political speeches I’ve heard in a LONG time.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:09:39pm

re: #46 jeffreyw

“The Barb Aryans”

Dear Cthulhu I’m ROTFLMAO!

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:10:08pm

Shit, this woman is like reading an unhinged Nextdoor post.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:10:11pm

re: #51 Scottish Dragon

Yes. THAT’S IT!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:10:15pm

BOYS AND GIRLS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVEN’T TAKEN PUBLIC SPEAKING CLASSES

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:11:40pm

She sounds like a woman that takes showers with her clothes on.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:11:50pm

This might be the worst political speech I’ve ever seen

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:12:11pm

Katie, we hardly knew ye

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:12:36pm

I am not even listening to her, muted the tv so i didn’t have to hear, what I see on the tv is a stepford wife.

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:12:45pm

She sounded like Tammy Faye Baker, without the intellect.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:13:00pm

re: #59 Dangerman

She had unplumbed shallows.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:13:10pm

re: #58 KGxvi

This might be the worst political speech I’ve ever seen

We have two senators. She’s the smart one. Really.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:13:19pm

Just reminding you folks what I said about listening to Katie Britt talk: ” Like listening to nails scratch across a blackboard but at a higher pitch”

Such a weak voice, weak logic and lies will stand out the more.

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aatharuv  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:13:38pm

OMG, I was busy working, just stopped, and started watching Katie Britt. She just doesn’t sound real.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:13:52pm

re: #58 KGxvi

This might be the worst political speech I’ve ever seen

Somewhere, Bobby Jindal is smiling.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:14:08pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL ✅

Just reminding you folks what I said about listening to Katie Britt talk: ” Like listening to nails scratch across a blackboard but at a higher pitch”

Such a weak voice, weak logic and lies will stand out the more.

If Mama were alive oh Mom would have a bunch of one liners to smack her down with!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:14:11pm

Again, this was a typical conservative evangelical church testimonial from a pastor’s wife.

That really doesn’t work here omg

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:14:23pm

re: #65 aatharuv

OMG, I was busy working, just stopped, and started watching Katie Britt. She just doesn’t sound real.

Too, too, real.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:14:28pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL ✅

Just reminding you folks what I said about listening to Katie Britt talk: ” Like listening to nails scratch across a blackboard but at a higher pitch”

Such a weak voice, weak logic and lies will stand out the more.

The other side is calling it a homerun
Really

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:15:17pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

Somewhere Bobby Jindal is smiling.

She should have taken frequent water breaks.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:15:46pm

re: #70 Dangerman

The other side is calling it a homerun
Really

Someone should tell them the game is chess.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:15:48pm

re: #70 Dangerman

The other side is calling it a homerun
Really

Sounds more like a strikeout on three pitches. All looking.

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:16:14pm

It was very Stepford Wife like.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:16:18pm

re: #65 aatharuv

OMG, I was busy working, just stopped, and started watching Katie Britt. She just doesn’t sound real.

This would have been more effective than Katie Britt

Vintage Chatty Cathy toy doll TV Commercial 1960’s

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:16:56pm

@mobute.bsky.social

I feel like Katie Britt’s direction for the close of her speech was “what if there was a phone sex number for the gospel?”

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:17:03pm

Santos is officially running for Congress again, allowing him to raise money from the public and spend it on his legal defense.

how this is allowed ill never understand

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KingKenrod  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:17:06pm

Re Britt - don’t underestimate MAGA ability to be energized by the most insipid and loathsome things. I’m sure they love this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:17:55pm

re: #77 Dangerman

Santos is officially running for Congress again, allowing him to raise money from the public and spend it on his legal defense.

how this is allowed ill never understand

It’s the MAGA way.

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:19:21pm

I missed Katie Britt’s speech (for which, I gather, I should be grateful): even on the muted clip I glanced at, she looked vapid and lame: but what did she say?
Anything salient, or just stock GOP bitching?

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:19:24pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s the MAGA way.

One thing public financing of campaigns would do is kjll the fundraising for legal defense business model

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:19:27pm

re: #78 KingKenrod

Re Britt - don’t underestimate MAGA ability to be energized by the most insipid and loathsome things. I’m sure they love this.

It was aimed squarely at them and only at them. Anybody who hasn’t gone to that kind of church would be utterly mystified tonight.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:19:58pm

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:20:14pm

re: #80 Jay C

Biden “should reverse his policies.”

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:20:22pm

re: #78 KingKenrod

Re Britt - don’t underestimate MAGA ability to be energized by the most insipid and loathsome things. I’m sure they love this.

I dunno. Reviews on FR are mostly brutal. A few supporting her because they think her performance will be effective with Dem. suburban moms.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:20:25pm

re: #80 Jay C

I missed Katie Britt’s speech (for which, I gather, I should be grateful): even on the muted clip I glanced at, she looked vapid and lame: but what did she say?
Anything salient, or just stock GOP bitching?

Loooong segment about rape rape and more rape and rapey rape

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:20:33pm

re: #82 Scottish Dragon

It was aimed squarely at them and only at them. Anybody who hasn’t gone to that kind of church would be utterly mystified tonight.

I am utterly mystified tonight

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:21:11pm

re: #85 calochortus

I dunno. Reviews on FR are mostly brutal. A few supporting her because they think her performance will be effective with Dem. suburban moms.

Omg ok,yeah. Lol

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:21:28pm

re: #87 Dangerman

I am utterly mystified tonight

I am utterly relieved tonight.

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:21:50pm

This woman could make a fortune in right wing ASMR videos…

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:21:59pm

Yair Golan is someone in Israel I have been following since Oct 7. On that day, the former member of the Knesset and a retired major general put on his old uniform, jumped in his car and drove down to the area to rescue many people.

He has been anti-Netanyahu for a while. He had ruined his political career in 2016 by discussing the parallels between Europe and Germany in the 30s and the slide to the right by Israel at a Holocaust speech.

But he is taking the Oct 7 events to revitalize his career and announced today he is running to lead the Labor Party. He waants to unite Labor. Meretz and the entire Left in Israel.

He may not succeed but I see his rise as a hopeful sign for real opposition to Bibi from the left.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:22:10pm

re: #85 calochortus

I dunno. Reviews on FR are mostly brutal. A few supporting her because they think her performance will be effective with Dem. suburban moms.

Redstate loved it
Righteous anger vs Biden whose just old and angry
All that was missing was his lawn…

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:24:24pm

re: #92 Dangerman

Redstate loved it
Righteous anger vs Biden whose just old and angry
All that was missing was his lawn…

Freepers are made of sterner stuff. They would have preferred someone manly, like Matt Gaetz. Really.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:24:46pm

re: #43 Scottish Dragon

She has no idea how to relate to the camera, and she’s coming off as the sort of person you politely excuse yourself from at a party.

Lasted less than 15 seconds. She has that smarmy smugness of someone who feels she is just naturally a great leader, a master of rhetoric and the smartest person in the room.

Kinda like a female version of Cruz.

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:24:48pm

She sounded like Maria Bamford doing a character!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:25:55pm

re: #17 Scottish Dragon

They need to thank Hamas for what’s going on in Israel. Had Hamas not kidnapped and killed Israelis and foreigners on October 7th, what’s happening now wouldn’t be happening.

Netanyahu is a jerk but that doesn’t excuse Hamas’ terrorism.

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calochortus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:26:00pm

Well, that’s enough excitement for one evening. Catch you all tomorrow.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:26:08pm

Ok good night again! 😴

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:27:07pm

re: #86 Scottish Dragon

Trump’s rape of Ms. Carroll?

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:27:38pm
A Fulton County ethics watchdog slated to hear complaints against District Attorney Fani Willis (D) on Thursday will no longer do so, according to an updated meeting agenda.

The Fulton County Board of Ethics was expected to hear two complaints against Willis after her romance with a special prosecutor on the election interference case involving former President Trump raised concerns of a conflict of interest.

The board determined it does not have jurisdiction over Willis, who is a state constitutional officer in her role

msn.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:27:55pm

Why didn’t this Katie lady give this same speech in 2018 about Mollie Tibbetts?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:29:15pm

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

No not that good MAGA rape. The bad brown blood-poisoning invader rape.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:30:29pm

Crime in this country is down. A murder allegedly committed by someone in the country illegally doesn’t change that fact.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:31:13pm

Half of this country used to be Mexico.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:33:13pm

re: #103 Ace Rothstein

They keep redoing the Willie Horton ad.

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BeachDem  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:34:09pm

Refresh my memory, please. Has anyone given a sotu rebuttal from their kitchen before? Or is this supposed to look like a trad wife speech?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:34:23pm

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:35:47pm

Upon reflection, the SOTU was every bit the speech I thought it would be. I’ve been following almost every major speech Biden has been making on the campaign trail and they are all like this - pugnacious, unyielding, hopeful, angry, irreverant, folksy and biting.

I expect the MSM will now start to notice this since it is now trivial to write a many page inches about just how great Biden is despite his age. The MSM will reverse in an instant because they are lazy and these stories write themselves now. The comparison with Trump will result in the clicks they crave.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:36:42pm

re: #106 BeachDem

Refresh my memory, please. Has anyone given a sotu rebuttal from their kitchen before? Or is this supposed to look like a trade wife speech?

Well it’s not as entertaining as a June Lockhart Campbell’s Soup commercial…

Campbells 8 1960’s Best of Campbell’s

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:37:50pm

At one point watching her, I thought, “is it cake?”

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:39:04pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon ✅

Well it’s not as entertaining as a June Lockhart Campbell’s Soup commercial…

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Video

She is still alive at 98!!! Good for her. I remember those Campbell’s soup ads during Lassie.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:49:10pm

How I felt tonight.

Animal House Flounder

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:51:32pm

@atrupar.bsky.social

Hannity’s big takeaway tonight is that Biden’s speech was so good he must’ve been on drugs

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:53:20pm

Made me laugh.

Live feed of all the women in SNL’s cast discussing who’s going to play Katie Britt in Saturday’s cold open. #GOPResponse

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:53:27pm

re: #30 (((Archangel1)))

I don’t believe Netanyahu will leave unless it’s feet first.

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:56:48pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

Look at her kitchen. 😂😂😂😂

The fake kitchen backdrop with a faucet over a counter-top with no discernible sink? That was totes realistic. She even mentioned at the end that real people sit around real kitchens like hers and have real conversations about saving embryos and stopping wokeness.

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mmmirele  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:57:28pm

Well, the International House of Prayer Kansas City sex scandal is the gift that keeps on giving. A young man has started exposing his father, who, while not officially associated with IHOPKC, had been hanging around for two decades and gave them land and trailers at the beginning of the outfit.

A man known in charismatic circles for his prophetic ministry who has close ties to embattled International House of Prayer-Kansas City founder Mike Bickle is a con artist and a fraud, his son said this week.

Jedidiah Hartley, who was raised in the IHOPKC community and often traveled with his father to speaking engagements, said he could no longer remain silent about what he knew — and experienced — regarding Bob Hartley and his highly sought-after prophecies.

“I have never known how to address this publicly, but it has become clear that (it) is time for me to speak up,” he said in a thread posted on X, formerly Twitter, on Monday afternoon.

Then came the bombshell.

“My dad, Bob Hartley, who has been an influential prophetic figure in both #IHOPKC and #Bethel church is a complete fraud. His prophetic ministry has always been a con. For decades his process has been the same. He gets specific information about people, either through online searches, church directories, or most commonly, through conversations with pastors of local churches, and then he pretends as if he is divining this info.”

ca.news.yahoo.com

Note: the “Bethel” referred to here is Bethel Redding church, in Redding, CA. This church and its leadership holds a lot of sway over the town of Redding.

There was also a story yesterday that I’m not going to drop here because the person who published the story basically dragged the woman through the mud without considering that she may have been a victim of sexual abuse. So, yeah, it’s getting ugly.

And, apparently, IHOPKC is moving out of its campus in a strip mall (the home of the famous 24x7 prayer room) and moving to another property they own a few miles away. It’s been speculated that the scandals engulfing IHOPKC have really cut into giving, but it’s unclear if that’s the reason why they’re moving.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:57:43pm

re: #117 darthstar

I wondered what that second freezer was for.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 8:59:46pm

He put this up earlier today. Getting advice from former Presidents about the speech.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:00:51pm

re: #113 jaunte

@atrupar.bsky.social

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The MAGA seem to have settled on Adderall as the drug being used. Of course, as always, an accusation is an admission since Adderal overuse easily explains a lot of Trump;s problems.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:03:55pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon ✅

Well it’s not as entertaining as a June Lockhart Campbell’s Soup commercial…

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Video

June Lockhart, America’s mom. Both Lockhart and Jon Provost, who played Timmy on the Lassie series, are still with us. Lockhart will be 99 in June, Provost will turn 74 in a few days.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:04:20pm

(Gov) Ivey tells ‘good friend’ Katie Britt to ‘get the job done’ with State of the Union response
al.com

When we’ve won this miserable election, I hope all y’all remember what a debt is owed to Alabama.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:05:37pm

So, that guy up in the gallery who was shouting and then removed? He is the father of one of the American soldiers killed in the Afghan retreat. He was shouting “Abbey Gate”, where his son was killed.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:09:32pm

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BeachDem  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:10:16pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

June Lockhart, America’s mom. Both Lockhart and Jon Provost, who played Timmy on the Lassie series, are still with us. Lockhart will be 99 in June, Provost will turn 74 in a few days.

And for us olds, before Lockhart and Provost, there were Jan Clayton and Tommy Rettig, both long gone

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:10:38pm

re: #111 silverdolphin

She is still alive at 98!!! Good for her. I remember those Campbell’s soup ads during Lassie.

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

June Lockhart, America’s mom. Both Lockhart and Jon Provost, who played Timmy on the Lassie series, are still with us. Lockhart will be 99 in June, Provost will turn 74 in a few days.

Two weeks later and we could have had July Lockhart.

I went to look her up and found this picture:

It was taken in 1947, and she says she loves the picture. That was taken from an interview she did when she was 75 about the movie she starred in: She-Wolf of London.

qctimes.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:11:21pm

re: #117 darthstar

The fake kitchen backdrop with a faucet over a counter-top with no discernible sink? That was totes realistic. She even mentioned at the end that real people sit around real kitchens like hers and have real conversations about saving embryos and stopping wokeness.

Who are these people? Seriously? The whole “family gets together to have a frank discussion at the dinner table” was cliche in the 1980s, let alone today.

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:11:48pm

re: #120 silverdolphin

He put this up earlier today. Getting advice from former Presidents about the speech.

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That was wonderful.

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:14:07pm

Marshall Xitter post

Still cracking up at all the astute and pointed comments earlier in the LGF thread!

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:16:20pm

re: #130 ckkatz

Is this about the Alabama psycho woman? We watched with the volume muted most of it and the few times we unmuted everyone was all, “NO!”…i finally said she looked like a mean girl and everyone in the room agreed.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:17:32pm

@turnerjoy.bsky.social

“Joe Biden will tell you lies like the existence of Tenderqueers and Female Orgasms”

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:19:19pm

re: #131 darthstar

Yup! The very same.

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:21:14pm

re: #132 jaunte

@turnerjoy.bsky.social

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Good Zod, I actually missed the video of her speech. Did they tell the production staff “Yes, we want as generic a 1980s family sitcom kitchen as you can design”?

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:23:15pm

@dell.bsky.social

is this a model apartment? where’s all the shit in their kitchen?

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:23:56pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

Good Zod, I actually missed the video of her speech. Did they tell the production staff “Yes, we want as generic a 1980s family sitcom kitchen as you can design”?

They modernized it with two “pictures” of a young football player in a 17 red jersey to try and ride on Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes’ Superbowl Victory.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:24:04pm

A kitchenfull of closets.

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:24:59pm

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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They don’t need appliances. God cooks their food.

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:25:25pm

re: #137 jaunte

A kitchenfull of closets.

That’s where their children hide their sexuality.

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:25:53pm

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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Holy stock photos, Batman!

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:29:28pm

That’s a photo that says one of two things: “This family has never cooked a meal in this kitchen” or “NO WIRE HANGERS!!!”

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:29:58pm

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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If I was going to do a speech from the kitchen, I would probably have people come in and clean it up.

I went and looked it up. About 29% of families eat together. Most of the other families have people on different schedules so they can’t.

Her scene is stock and nostalgic for a time that hasn’t existed for a lot of people.

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:31:48pm

re: #135 jaunte

I thought that the picture was a spoof. But it’s not. I’m guessing that the sink is on an island. But that is the one of the weirdest freaking kitchens I have seen.

And for my contribution, a picture from the SOTU:

Miller Xitter post

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:31:55pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

Holy stock photos, Batman!

I don’t do X anymore or I’d respond, “YOU DON’T HAVE ANY FUCKING APPLIANCES? NOT EVEN A COFFEE MAKER? OR A BREADBOX?”

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:33:07pm

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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Someone needs to teach those kids how to blink the truth in morse code like POWs in propaganda films…

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:35:41pm

re: #142 Belafon

If I was going to do a speech from the kitchen, I would probably have people come in and clean it up.

I went and looked it up. About 29% of families eat together. Most of the other families have people on different schedules so they can’t.

Her scene is stock and nostalgic for a time that hasn’t existed for a lot of people.

The idea that somebody came and deep-cleaned the kitchen for the photo occurred to me, but the total lack of ornamentation or personalization just makes it feel like they took the picture at an IKEA store. Any time I’ve viewed a room in an actual house that was that sterile, it was because the homeowner was the sort of deranged person who insisted any place that “guests” may see during visits be kept immaculate to avoid gossip amongst the neighbors. Like my sister’s friend whose mother kept an entire living room so pearly white that it glowed on its own, but it was strictly for “guests” and you could not even step on the carpet without first removing your shoes.

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EPR-radar  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:40:22pm

re: #17 Scottish Dragon

Yes,I think they will sit on their hands and not vote at all because they are furious at being taken for granted and at seeing their compatriots and family members bombed to death with ordnance they paid for.

That would be very, very stupid. Threatened minorities in the US simply cannot afford to be that stupid.

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sagehen  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:41:47pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

Like my sister’s friend whose mother kept an entire living room so pearly white that it glowed on its own, but it was strictly for “guests” and you could not even step on the carpet without first removing your shoes.

Did she have plastic slipcovers on the couch and chairs?

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:43:48pm

Jong-Fast Xitter post

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:46:04pm

re: #132 jaunte

@turnerjoy.bsky.social

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I’m still surprised that the cross she wore is so small…

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:47:28pm

re: #149 ckkatz

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Jong-Fast Xitter post

Hey! At least he had the good manners to wear a tie to the SOTU…..

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:48:41pm

re: #148 sagehen

Did she have plastic slipcovers on the couch and chairs?

If she didn’t, then she was dusting and cleaning daily, because it looked immaculate both times I visited. But it also seemed that “guests” were not allowed past the living room, as the kitchen actually looked “lived in” as did most of the rest of the house. It was like she limited “guest areas” to two rooms: the living room and the bathroom that was equally spotless.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:49:37pm

re: #149 ckkatz

Texas is not sending its best Troys.

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:50:46pm

re: #149 ckkatz

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Jong-Fast Xitter post

From the party that so lost their shit over a hoodie that they forced a rule change.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:57:25pm

re: #149 ckkatz

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 9:59:13pm

re: #155 Belafon

Hah!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:03:19pm

re: #155 Belafon

Now just imagine if a Democrat did that wearing a JOHN FETTERMAN’S BODY DOUBLE t-shirt.

19th Century Fox would be in meltdown mode.

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:08:32pm

Biden was very effective at giving sane aspirational statements such as “don’t throw puppies in woodchippers”. And the GOP response was to silently and sullenly sit on their hands, shaking their heads. I suspect that these will make some wonderful political ads.

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:08:47pm

re: #113 jaunte

@atrupar.bsky.social

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You can hear the writers at Faux screaming in frustration as they have to shitcan their “Old man yells at clouds!” headlines for tomorrow.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:12:33pm

Texas Dems cringe at Biden calling migrant “an illegal” during State of the Union

Of course Dems are the ones commenting on Biden’s ‘gaffe.’ Can’t use ‘illegal’. Of course, Biden was mimicking MTG’s language.

U.S. Rep. Veronica Escobar, an El Paso Democrat who is also a co-chair of Biden’s reelection campaign, said “that is the statutory language,” though “it’s not the language I use.”

Yeah. It is what the law calls the person but he should not have used it. Thanks, Texas.

Sometimes I hate being a democrat.

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sagehen  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:14:08pm

re: #160 silverdolphin

Texas Dems cringe at Biden calling migrant “an illegal” during State of the Union

Of course Dems are the ones commenting on Biden’s ‘gaffe.’ Can’t use ‘illegal’. Of course, Biden was mimicking MTG’s language.

Yeah. It is what the law calls the person but he should not have used it. Thanks, Texas.

Sometimes I hate being a democrat.

“I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”
—Will Rogers

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:15:59pm
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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:16:53pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

You can hear the writers at Faux screaming in frustration as they have to shitcan their “Old man yells at clouds!” headlines for tomorrow.

I dunno: in my estimation, that’s exactly what I would expect Fox’s “news” division to emphasize. Though FN, at least tries to maintain some sort of connection with reality (even if tenuous, sometimes): I’m sure the reaction to the SOTU from the less-mass-market RW media will be right along the lines of “Senile Joe rants for hours, wasting Congress’s time”…

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:18:16pm

re: #163 Jay C

I dunno: in my estimation, that’s exactly what I would expect Fox’s “news” division to emphasize. Though FN, at least tries to maintain some sort of connection with reality (even if tenuous, sometimes): I’m sure the reaction to the SOTU from the less-mass-market RW media will be right along the lines of “Senile Joe rants for hours, wasting Congress’s time”…

Yep, it already seems to be hardening in the RWNJ that he spent the whole time just yelling about nothing. Just yelling.

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JC1  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:20:45pm

re: #164 silverdolphin

Yep, it already seems to be hardening in the RWNJ that he spent the whole time just yelling about nothing. Just yelling.

Doesn’t matter.
I stand by my prediction that Biden sails to victory unless we have a 2008 like economic meltdown.

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:21:55pm

You folks are darn good at predicting GOP spinning:

Hiatt Xitter post

Sargent Xitter post

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:25:35pm

re: #166 ckkatz

You folks are darn good at predicting GOP spinning:

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Sargent Xitter post

Yes, the people who get wood at watching an angry tangerine scream absolute nonsense to ever-shrinking crowds think that Biden being louder and more animated that normal will turn off voters.

Ho-f’n-hum.

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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:25:35pm

re: #166 ckkatz

You folks are darn good at predicting GOP spinning:

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Sargent Xitter post

Our media betters are nothing if not laughably predictable.

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piratedan  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:28:03pm

re: #166 ckkatz

well, say he was angry, what would cause him to be angry? Maybe the backing out on a bipartisan Immigration Bill? Maybe not funding the government, as was promised by the previous speaker? Maybe not funding our allies and holding them up for partisan gain???

Somehow, Trump’s hateful rhetoric always got laughed off as being passionate by these same types… doesn’t matter how Biden handled his speech, there would always be something “wrong” with his speech.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:28:58pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:33:19pm

And instead of op-eds about how it doesn’t matter if the political class loved Biden’s speech because it was an absolute hit with his base, we’ll be treated to stories about how a pool reporter from the Times managed to find a pack of college kids who thought the word “illegal” was the sum total of the speech and think Biden “deserves” to lose as a result.

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:36:43pm

And another one bites the dust… and another one…

Not surprised, though. Sinema is interested in chasing fortune.

And Haley has absolutely refused to build any sort of constituency from independents and never-trumpers. Instead, she has chased after tfg’s base. A prize she is unlikely to ever win.

Bennett Xitter post

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:40:41pm

re: #172 ckkatz

So what is NoLabels’ next move going to be?
Putting ads in newspapers:
“National Presidential Candidate Wanted”
No Experience Necessary

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 10:57:50pm

re: #172 ckkatz

And another one bites the dust… and another one…

Not surprised, though. Sinema is interested in chasing fortune.

And Haley has absolutely refused to build any sort of constituency from independents and never-trumpers. Instead, she has chased after tfg’s base. A prize she is unlikely to ever win.

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Bennett Xitter post

It’s a hard job to fill: Finding somebody with the name recognition and ambition to shave off a non-trivial percentage of the overall vote from the Dem column, but also somebody willing to spend the rest of their lives as a political pariah whose name shows up in history books on lists of “election spoilers.”

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:06:41pm

re: #160 silverdolphin

Texas Dems cringe at Biden calling migrant “an illegal” during State of the Union

Of course Dems are the ones commenting on Biden’s ‘gaffe.’ Can’t use ‘illegal’. Of course, Biden was mimicking MTG’s language.

U.S. Rep. Veronica Escobar, an El Paso Democrat who is also a co-chair of Biden’s reelection campaign, said “that is the statutory language,” though “it’s not the language I use.”

Yeah. It is what the law calls the person but he should not have used it. Thanks, Texas.

Sometimes I hate being a democrat.

Veronica Escobar, before she was in congress, was an immigration judge. So it’s natural for her to say, ‘that’s what the law says, that’s not what I say.’ It’s editorial to say that’s a ‘cringe’. She’s an old buddy of Beto O’Rourke, and is in his old seat.

—ed. to add the inner quote.

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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:21:54pm

Actual Newsweek Headline: “Democrats Reject Plan to Cut Income Tax.”

Accurate Headline: “62% of Iowa Voters Conned Into Believing They’re Part of the 1%”

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:27:34pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Actual Newsweek Headline: “Democrats Reject Plan to Cut Income Tax.”

Accurate Headline: “62% of Iowa Voters Conned Into Believing They’re Part of the 1%”

Newsweek is a MAGA publication. Per the SPLC. Not a reliable source anymore.

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:31:52pm

re: #177 silverdolphin

Newsweek is a MAGA publication. Per the SPLC. Not a reliable source anymore.

Thank you. I was oblivious.

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:32:17pm

re: #177 silverdolphin

Newsweek is a MAGA publication. Per the SPLC. Not a reliable source anymore.

It never really was. Even by the ‘80’s we called it Newsbleat.

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silverdolphin  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:34:59pm

re: #179 William Lewis

It never really was. Even by the ‘80’s we called it Newsbleat.

Yeah. The WaPo ran it during those years I believe.

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:41:46pm

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 12:06:26am

re: #179 William Lewis

It never really was. Even by the ‘80’s we called it Newsbleat.

I remember “Newsweak”.

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silverdolphin  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:12:37am

Kristen Wiig doing Elizabeth Hasselbach shows she could do Britt easily since Hasselbach pretty much is Britt (both married to football players in fact). An example.

youtube.com

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:13:23am

Don’t watch this stoned.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:24:14am

re: #184 ericblair

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Don’t watch this stoned.

Holy shit. Was that from her actual speech?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:37:47am

re: #184 ericblair

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Don’t watch this stoned.

Bobby Jindal called. He wants apologies from all the people who said he gave the worst SotU rebuttal ever.

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:46:45am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Holy shit. Was that from her actual speech?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Minus the soundtrack, yep. Apparently it gets worse with a bunch of BROWN PEOPLE RAPING OUR WHITE WIMMENS in the same sort of crazy ex presentation. However, I’m trying to cut back on the alcomohol and don’t think I can adequately prep myself to confirm this.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2024 • 2:58:52am

re: #187 ericblair

Minus the soundtrack, yep. Apparently it gets worse with a bunch of BROWN PEOPLE RAPING OUR WHITE WIMMENS in the same sort of crazy ex presentation. However, I’m trying to cut back on the alcomohol and don’t think I can adequately prep myself to confirm this.

I’ve run into so many like her over the years it’s fuckin’ frightening. That woman who you’re chatting with in line or sitting next to in the doctor’s office who seems perfectly normal until suddenly she’s babbling about why she doesn’t let her daughter go on social media because the girls in her book club heard from Faux one day that MS-13 pays Chinese hackers to set up fake accounts to lure white girls to parties where they get them hooked on drugs and then sell them into sexual slavery and Biden is doing nothing about it because Xi has photos of Hunter with child prostitutes and why are staring at me like that?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:02:33am

I’ve been looking (admittedly, out of morbid curiosity) to see if Trump’s ponied up the money for the E. Jean Carroll case, and so far at least, bupkis.

He’d better sell something or start burning those phone lines, because otherwise his Monday is gonna look a whole lot like this…..

Where is the Money, Lebowski?

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:02:55am

re: #188 Targetpractice

I’ve run into so many like her over the years it’s fuckin’ frightening. That woman who you’re chatting with in line or sitting next to in the doctor’s office who seems perfectly normal until suddenly she’s babbling about why she doesn’t let her daughter go on social media because the girls in her book club heard from Faux one day that MS-13 pays Chinese hackers to set up fake accounts to lure white girls to parties where they get them hooked on drugs and then sell them into sexual slavery and Biden is doing nothing about it because Xi has photos of Hunter with child prostitutes and why are staring at me like that?

Had a couple of drunk Hockey parents spouting that shit a couple of months ago, loudly, at 3 am. I was unamused…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:06:47am

re: #187 ericblair

Minus the soundtrack, yep. Apparently it gets worse with a bunch of BROWN PEOPLE RAPING OUR WHITE WIMMENS in the same sort of crazy ex presentation. However, I’m trying to cut back on the alcomohol and don’t think I can adequately prep myself to confirm this.

I couldn’t even finish watching that clip. How are these people not embarrassed? I do not get it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:07:48am

re: #104 Ace Rothstein

Half of this country used to be Mexico.

And people were speaking Spanish there long before anyone spoke English

And Native languages long before anyone ever spoke Spanish there…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:08:44am

re: #188 Targetpractice

I’ve run into so many like her over the years it’s fuckin’ frightening. That woman who you’re chatting with in line or sitting next to in the doctor’s office who seems perfectly normal until suddenly she’s babbling about why she doesn’t let her daughter go on social media because the girls in her book club heard from Faux one day that MS-13 pays Chinese hackers to set up fake accounts to lure white girls to parties where they get them hooked on drugs and then sell them into sexual slavery and Biden is doing nothing about it because Xi has photos of Hunter with child prostitutes and why are staring at me like that?

I can’t help myself.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Hot damn. That’s truly some authentic frontier gibberish, right there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:08:56am

re: #119 jaunte

I wondered what that second freezer was for.

Roadkill

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:09:07am

re: #190 William Lewis

Had a couple of drunk Hockey parents spouting that shit a couple of months ago, loudly, at 3 am. I was unamused…

Was having an otherwise normal discussion with one of our guests that had turned to the military (ex-hubby is a retired Marine) and the matter of the DoD falling short across the board on recruitment came up. And in less than a second, she’d grabbed the wheel and yanked the discussion straight into “Did you know that they’re thinking about letting all those illegals from China earn their citizenship by serving? After all, there’s millions of military-aged men here, you know why, right?”

It was a struggle not to facepalm right then and there.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:11:18am

re: #190 William Lewis

Had a couple of drunk Hockey parents spouting that shit a couple of months ago, loudly, at 3 am. I was unamused…

Wait, that’s an actual thing? Like…actual, real people actually saying that?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:13:38am

Bah. Par.

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:14:00am

re: #196 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Wait, that’s an actual thing? Like…actual, real people actually saying that?

Unfortunately…

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:19:47am

re: #75 Joe Bacon ✅

Ouch!!! 😂 😂 Chatty Cathy didn’t lie as much.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:22:35am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been looking (admittedly, out of morbid curiosity) to see if Trump’s ponied up the money for the E. Jean Carroll case, and so far at least, bupkis.

He’d better sell something or start burning those phone lines, because otherwise his Monday is gonna look a whole lot like this…..

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😂 Unless Putin or Musk ponies up the $$$, Trump’s properties are going to be sold to pay Carroll’s judgment. He can’t wiggle out of this judgment.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:25:39am

One of the things about being middle-aged, white, and non-threatening is Faux fans assume I’m “one of them” and so when they start babbling about the Grand Fentanyl Conspiracy between China, the Cartels, and Democrats…that I’m totally on their wavelength and my stunned silence as they babble is silent agreement and not simple resignation as I realize they’re too far gone to even try to correct basic facts.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:25:43am

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

😂 Unless Putin or Musk ponies up the $$$, Trump’s properties are going to be sold to pay Carroll’s judgment. He can’t wiggle out of this judgment.

Putin can’t put up the money. He’s under sanction (granted, he could find an intermediary) and I don’t know how enthused Musk would be at the prospect, but then again, given his cockamamie decision-making, who knows?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:26:25am

well, that was ugly.
Wordle 993 5/6

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:27:30am

TIL: That when building The Gherkin, as it is know, in London, the burial of a Roman girl was found and after the building was completed she was reburied there with ceremonies appropriate for 350 ~ 400AD Roman Traditions.

Tomb of the Unknown London Girl

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:33:38am

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:33:52am

re: #201 Targetpractice

One of the things about being middle-aged, white, and non-threatening is Faux fans assume I’m “one of them” and so when they start babbling about the Grand Fentanyl Conspiracy between China, the Cartels, and Democrats…that I’m totally on their wavelength and my stunned silence as they babble is silent agreement and not simple resignation as I realize they’re too far gone to even try to correct basic facts.

Yup. My long grey beard does even more to make them think I’m one of them too. And I work very hard on my professional demeanor so I won’t tell them their full of donkey manure.

But I won’t let Faux be on any of our lobby TV’s, ya sure you betcha.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:34:21am

re: #202 Dr Lizardo

Putin can’t put up the money. He’s under sanction (granted, he could find an intermediary) and I don’t know how enthused Musk would be at the prospect, but then again, given his cockamamie decision-making, who knows?

could this also endanger his status as a government contractor?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:36:01am

re: #202 Dr Lizardo

Putin can’t put up the money. He’s under sanction (granted, he could find an intermediary) and I don’t know how enthused Musk would be at the prospect, but then again, given his cockamamie decision-making, who knows?

What’s causing the real problem is the monitor appointed during the fraud trial. If he was unsupervised, he’d magically find $100m in the couch cushions to put in escrow while he mounted his pointless appeals. But because everything he does with his money is being watched, he can’t just call up his buddies in Moscow to spot him the funds, nor are the usual banks he relies upon to launder said funds willing to float him a loan now that they know they’re not getting anything out of it and most of what he owns is leveraged to the hilt.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:36:31am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

could this also endanger his status as a government contractor?

You’d think it would. A government contractor lending money to a Presidential candidate?

Not a good look.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:46:33am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:48:39am

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

More like they are closet Nazis just waiting for the moment to come out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:51:30am

After 217 Covid Vaccines, Man Had No Side Effects and Robust Immunity

Media accounts of a German man’s extreme vaccination history spurred researchers to analyze his immune responses.

By all rights, this man should be a lizardoid 5G mutant Gates/Soros laser bot!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:51:45am

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:54:37am

re: #206 William Lewis

Yup. My long grey beard does even more to make them think I’m one of them too. And I work very hard on my professional demeanor so I won’t tell them their full of donkey manure.

It’s almost like our superpower. We exude an aura of trust and safety to the crazies just by virtue of being white, male, middle-aged (or older), and not obviously homeless. I’ve had multiple people at church just randomly, out of the blue, go all-in on telling me the most wacked-out, fucked-up political opinions. I’ve told you guys about the things my parents say, although that’s different; they said those things to me because they assumed I still believed what they raised me to believe. Sorry, Dad, I may be a disappointment to the family, but at least I still have my humanity intact.

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Nerdy Fish  Mar 8, 2024 • 3:56:29am

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:04:32am

re: #186 Targetpractice

Bobby Jindal called. He wants apologies from all the people who said he gave the worst SotU rebuttal ever.

Jindal and Taney are dancing a jig together

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:05:50am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been looking (admittedly, out of morbid curiosity) to see if Trump’s ponied up the money for the E. Jean Carroll case, and so far at least, bupkis.

He’d better sell something or start burning those phone lines, because otherwise his Monday is gonna look a whole lot like this…..

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YouTube

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:07:19am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

You’d think it would. A government contractor lending money to a Presidential candidate?

Not a good look.

Legally, it’s bribery, and the still-illegal kind. Technically, Musk is an officer of a government contractor, and Trump as a candidate for office is considered a government official. I suppose you could make a case that it’s not if Musk applied normal loan underwriting standards and appropriate interest rates, but yeah sure.

SpaceX and Starlink competitors would have immediate cause for protests and lawsuits against their contract awards, as well.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:08:57am

re: #206 William Lewis

Yup. My long grey beard does even more to make them think I’m one of them too. And I work very hard on my professional demeanor so I won’t tell them their full of donkey manure.

But I won’t let Faux be on any of our lobby TV’s, ya sure you betcha.

you have the local lingo down pat 🤣

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:11:05am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been looking (admittedly, out of morbid curiosity) to see if Trump’s ponied up the money for the E. Jean Carroll case, and so far at least, bupkis.

He’d better sell something or start burning those phone lines, because otherwise his Monday is gonna look a whole lot like this…..

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:15:43am

“I know I may not look like it, but I’ve been around a while. And when you get to my age, certain things become clearer than ever.”

“Now other people my age see it differently — an American story of resentment, revenge and retribution. That’s not me.”

yes the delivery was outstanding and necessary

i give the writers a lot of credit here
it’s much easier when you have good material

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:17:17am

OK, off to work. Back later.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:18:19am

“With a sunny, inviting smile, Senator Katie Britt of Alabama welcomed Americans into her kitchen on Thursday night,” the New York Times reports.

“Many soon backed away nervously.”

“In the Republican Party’s official response to President Biden’s State of the Union address, Ms. Britt delivered a jarring speech that toggled between an increasingly strained cheerfulness and a fierce glare as she gave ominous warnings about illegal immigration.”

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:19:27am

re: #223 Dangerman

Daily Beast: “The performance was so bad that some Republicans watched the high-profile speech with a grimace. A GOP strategist told The Daily Beast that Britt’s delivery quickly became a gossip item Thursday night among operatives connected to Donald Trump—something that could have potential implications for her consideration as a vice presidential pick for the former president.”

Said this Republican: “Everyone’s fucking losing it. It’s one of our biggest disasters ever.”

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:21:40am

Another reason to vote blue:

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:24:24am

rando

Her shtick was a breathy and dramatic “be very afraid” speech, capped off with Christian nationalist imagery. She spoke longest about the border situation laying it all at Joe’s feet, making no mention of her vote against the immigration bill she was involved in crafting. That contradiction would make a perfect political rebuttal ad.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:30:12am

69 years ago, shot on beautiful black and white stock film, a documentary about… beauty:

1955: The BUSINESS of BEAUTY | Special Enquiry | World of Work | BBC Archive


..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:31:53am

I hate it when the scroll wheel goes out on my Logitech trackball.

They last a few years, then eventually break.

Logitech has remodeled their lineup and my current trackball is no longer available.

Alas, I’ll need to get one of the newer fangled ones.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:33:28am

I am so burnt out by life in general that I turned off the TV before the festivities even started. I followed along here for awhile and fell asleep til Cleo woke me up early this morning. Did all the networks also show the rebuttal? And yeah, those clips and pics of that kitchen are wierd af. Either it’s AI or a model kitchen from a store somewhere.

About the only thing I am sure of these days is how destructive hatred ends up being when it’s unchecked and how so many humans have decided that being awful is somehow an order from god (god, who always somehow manifests to us mere humans as some rich sack of shit psychopath).

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:34:18am

am i thrilled that Biden had an excellent night? you bet. i slept well.

is it icing that for a direct, same day contrast, the R’s are so tone deaf they produced the ‘response’ they did? oh yes

joe did what a president has to do. showed what a president is.
the R’s had one job…

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:37:31am

re: #229 A Mom Anon

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:40:06am

the way some of the R’s dressed for this occasion. the SOTU
you’d almost think they were named Fetterman
(you know, they guy they changed the dress code on)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:45:47am

Picket fence vs. Lava:

The Lava That Flowed Into Grindavík And The Fence That Didn’t Burn


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A Mom Anon  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:48:53am

re: #230 Dangerman
It looks like Pres Biden delivered a great speech and made it pretty clear that there’s an obvious source of what is ailing us. IMO, it also has given democrats a lot of material, based on facts, to counter bullshit with. I don’t have a big insight to much these days, but I do see my son and his friends, aged 25-35 mostly, and they are pissed, worried, and plan on not voting conservative at all. So that gives me hope. They read and research too, so my complete despair is tamped down a bit by that. Most of them were raised conservative and have turned away from both the politics and the religious parts of that. Let’s hope my tiny circle is part of a larger shift.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:50:05am

More storms:

It kind of sounded like their was some hail, but it woke me up, so I haven’t gone to check yet.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:50:38am
Biden: “I want to prevent fentanyl drug trafficking.”

Republicans: “Booo!”

Biden: “Oh, you don’t want to do that?”

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A Mom Anon  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:55:16am

re: #231 Dangerman

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:55:23am

it should be clear now why mikey didnt want the R’s shouting stuff at biden

on this one thing, he had it right
he saw what could happen
and it did
because *he* was prepared

CNN:


Biden seemed to have built the moments into his speech after last year’s address, when his back-and-forth with Republicans in the crowd emerged as a standout moment.

The moments allowed Biden to show he was willing to engage with Republicans, but also - in his view - take apart some of their arguments.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 4:55:28am

re: #21 KGxvi

Why is this stepford senator smiling when she says families are hurting?

The GOP found the most offensively inoffensive woman they could to give the rebuttal. And her claim starts with a white nationalist hot take - that women and families like hers are suffering.

They can’t actually describe what they’re suffering from and how they’re doing worse than 4 years ago, because that’s just flat out bulkshit on a stick. They know covid was a thing, and more than a million Americans died from covid. We were eyeballs deep in dead bodies - morgues overflowing, families grieving and split apart because of safety measures designed to try and keep people safer (and families who were losing loved ones to covid couldn’t even grieve normally b/c of covid - funerals, wakes, and shiva were all not a thing during covid).

We couldn’t find toilet paper, wipes, disinfectants, paper towels, masks, and people hoarded same because of it. You were limited to 1 pack if you could find them at costco. None of that was normal.

We had a president who sat on his ass and hoped covid would wipe out NY and the other blue states who he hated because they didn’t love him. He called for people to drink bleach, horse paste, and ingest UV light to protect against covid, and slow rolled expert advice from Fauci and others who wanted more stringent methods of slowing the spread of covid. Even after vaccinations were widely available, Trump and GOP slow rolled their efforts, and pushed antivax opinions, which meant that GOPers died at a disproportionately higher rate than everyone else, and that per capita death rates in GOP controlled states were far higher than even the states where covid first struck and we had no clue what to do to save lives (NY, NJ, and CA have lower per capita death rates than FL, TX, and a host of GOP states).

The economy collapsed under Trump, and even if you peel away the covid damage, Trump did demonstrably worse than Biden’s first three years (stripping away the covid rebound). Trump gutted civil and voting rights, women’s rights, contraceptive access, and abortion access, and intends to do more (thanks to a Christian fascist judiciary he installed, including SCOTUS).

That’s what is at stake, and Biden did a good job laying it out last night.

He also did exceptionally well when heckled by GOPers on immigration. The clapbacks by Biden not only show he still has it, but he understands the issue deeply and innately. He might have swallowed words from time to time and coughed a few times during the speech, but it was overall a good one laying out the accomplishments from past 3 years and what he wants to do going forward.

Most importantly, he didn’t mention Trump’s name once. That had to chafe Trump more than anything else, because Trump is an attention whore who can’t stand being second fiddle to anyone or anything.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:05:34am

cnn tried very hard to find criticisms in its fact check

this is true, but…
this is true, in context…

and in two cases, focused on a one line sound bite/boast of an accomplishment and, surprise, said the ‘truth’ is way more complex and nuanced. duh. it’s a speech. it doesnt come with citations and you cant cover every facet.

then onto Britt’s response and their first fact check:
“this claim is false”

the second was this one:
“President Biden inherited the most secure border of all time. But minutes after taking office, he suspended all deportations.”

Facts First: This needs context. Hours after taking office, Biden did call for a 100-day pause on deportations, but not “all deportations.”

The moratorium excluded individuals suspected of terrorism or espionage, among other groups. But, more importantly, the suspension never actually took effect. A federal judge in Texas immediately blocked the action and it was never revived.

and that was it for her.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:11:37am

re: #225 Patricia Kayden

Another reason to vote blue:

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Doesn’t that put you out of a job?

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Randall Gross  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:12:39am

Fuuuuuhhhhhhhck!

I had no idea that this happened, why didn’t you tell me!?

‘Black Hole Sun’: Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:12:39am

re: #134 Targetpractice

How bad is Britt and other people like her doing if she’s got two fucking sinks and a built in fridge (likely an expensive Sub Zero) in her kitchen, which is likely part of a McMansion?

Optics matter, and this lying Christian white nationalist wants everyone to ignore that she was involved in crafting the immigration security bill that had widespread bipartisan support until Trump called to tell them not to pass it because it would hurt Trump’s chances in November. So she sabotages her own legislation.

She’s a one and done congress critter. I know media outlets were breathlessly calling her a rising star in the party, but after that rebuttal speech, it’s clear that the GOP doesn’t have rising stars. They have heaping steaming piles of crap, and they think the wretched smell is something to spread all over the landscape to cover for their fascist kleptocratic intentions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:13:31am

re: #241 Dangerman

Doesn’t that put you out of a job?

Trump will just create the Department of Public Book Banning/Burning and make her Secretary.

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Randall Gross  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:14:50am

re: #242 Randall Gross

Also RIP Steve Lawrence

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:14:57am

“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall”

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:21:25am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will just create the Department of Public Book Banning/Burning and make her Secretary.

Department of Home Schooling and indoctrination.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:23:27am

Heh:

Mike Johnson’s son got an alert that his dad was standing/sitting too close to a black woman. /Stephen Colbert

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:27:53am

Hilarious.

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steve_davis  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:28:19am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And people were speaking Spanish there long before anyone spoke English

And Native languages long before anyone ever spoke Spanish there…

and sleestack long before anyone was speaking native american!!

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:29:59am

re: #250 steve_davis

and sleestack long before anyone was speaking native american!!

(I had a crush on Holly)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:32:25am

re: #242 Randall Gross

Fuuuuuhhhhhhhck!

I had no idea that this happened, why didn’t you tell me!?

[Embedded content]

How’s that possible? It’s that AI?

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:35:11am
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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:36:05am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:36:09am

re: #252 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How’s that possible? It’s that AI?

Wow. Written in 1994. I guess it’s possible BUT on a Christmas album? Something ain’t right here.

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:37:14am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:38:06am

re: #179 William Lewis

It never really was. Even by the ‘80’s we called it Newsbleat.

Back then, Newsweek offered a better range of views and wasn’t tied to RW propaganda. Its current depth of dishonesty was openly on display when, in the summer of 2020, it published an Eastman article screeching that Kamala was not eligible to run on the ticket because she wasn’t a natural born citizen. I am terrified that the current SCOTUS could indeed overturn the 1898 United States v. Wong Kim Ark decision and suddenly eliminate the established definition of citizenship.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:39:15am

Trump’s probably still throwing ketchup against the wall this morning over that last bit.

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:39:52am

re: #255 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Wow. Written in 1994. I guess it’s possible BUT on a Christmas album? Something ain’t right here.

Here’s info: elsewhere.co.nz

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Randall Gross  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:42:18am

re: #252 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How’s that possible? It’s that AI?

According to Wikipedia it’s real.
A cover version in the style of lounge music was performed by Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme.[85]
elsewhere.co.nz

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:42:47am

re: #197 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Bah. Par.

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Will update when 4th reports in

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:45:04am

From that article something even stranger…

The Mike Flowers Pops - Wonderwall

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:45:21am

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

😂 Unless Putin or Musk ponies up the $$$, Trump’s properties are going to be sold to pay Carroll’s judgment. He can’t wiggle out of this judgment.

Alex Jones hasn’t paid a cent yet — and that case was from 2022. What’s the difference here?

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:45:26am

re: #258 lawhawk

The Republican Smirk was on full display for much of the night behind Biden. That smirk has been a Republican trademark since Gingrich and perfected by none other than Bush the Lesser.

It is the smirk of white male entitlement. A smirk conveying full understanding that no matter how incompetent, how embarrassingly mediocre and how utterly disdainful your views and attitudes are in historical context you will be coddled and rewarded for your awfulness.

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A Cranky One  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:46:39am

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Randall Gross  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:48:54am

re: #262 William Lewis

From that article something even stranger…

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That cat can swing…

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:49:06am

re: #264 Florida Panhandler

And failing upwards at every opportunity.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:51:20am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will just create the Department of Public Book Banning/Burning and make her Secretary.

Acting

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:53:18am

By the way is “Truth” back online?

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:53:21am

re: #249 Egregious Philbin

Hilarious.

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I didn’t see the original
Now I can guess

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:53:59am

re: #250 steve_davis

and sleestack long before anyone was speaking native american!!

I wish someone would do an update of that. It was a very serious show and I loved it for that even as a kid.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:58:04am

re: #263 Hecuba’s daughter

Alex Jones hasn’t paid a cent yet — and that case was from 2022. What’s the difference here?

Alex Jones’ victims agreed to liquidate his assets for whatever they can get…that has begun.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:58:24am

Economy added 275,000 jobs in February, but the January and December numbers were revised sharply downward and unemployment ticked up, clear signs that the economy is gently slowing as the Fed intended. bls.gov

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2024 • 5:58:25am
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No Malarkey!  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:00:51am

re: #274 Dave In Austin

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Did she really stand there holding that huge knife, or is that a parody?

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:01:02am
Biden took about 35 minutes between finishing his speech and exiting the House chamber — shaking hands, chatting with members of Congress and answering questions until the lights started to switch off around him.”

Said C-SPAN host Peter Slen: “Well, for the first time in memory the president outlasted the House session. They turned down the lights, and President Biden took over half an hour to work his way off the House floor.”

NYT: President Biden forgot he needed to go home after the speech.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:01:42am

re: #275 No Malarkey!

Did she really stand there holding that huge knife, or is that a parody?

That’s been added.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:04:06am

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:05:33am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:05:52am

re: #275 No Malarkey!

Did she really stand there holding that huge knife, or is that a parody?

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:05:56am
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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:06:47am

re: #276 Dangerman

NYT: President Biden forgot he needed to go home after the speech.

Kamala Harris loved it because MAGA Mike has to stay in the chamber until the president leaves. Every time the camera panned up to them she was beaming with a big smile while Mike just looked down stupidly.

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:08:00am

re: #271 Belafon

I wish someone would do an update of that. It was a very serious show and I loved it for that even as a kid.

Someone did. It was horrific.

Land of the Lost (film)

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:09:22am

re: #276 Dangerman

Reality - Biden didn’t need to go home. He was basking in the limelight of crushing the GOP and hearing their lamentations. He was schmoozing with members, and showed that he understands retail politics and optics better than most.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:11:29am

Shannon Watts
@shannonrwatts

Sen Katie Britt says sexual assault is the worst thing that can happen to a woman while encouraging Americans to vote for a convicted sexual predator.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:12:32am

re: #281 gocart mozart

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*i* got that reference

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No Malarkey!  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:13:16am

re: #285 lawhawk

I’m guessing she was fanning hysteria about the scary colored men coming across the border to rape our white wimmins; am I correct?

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:13:56am

re: #283 William Lewis

Someone did. It was horrific.

Land of the Lost (film)

Yeah, I ignore that film in the same way the Ghostbusters franchise is ignoring one movie and everyone ignores the third Superman movie.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:17:08am

re: #288 Belafon

It would make a good series.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:19:25am

This is particularly rich… competing Drudge headlines:

Extreme efforts to make Biden look young during campaign could backfire…

Trump only looks younger ‘because of his hair and makeup’…

In no way does Trump’s hair or makeup make him look younger. He looks like a warmed over moldy cheese plate that gets airbrushed in bright orange to make it appeal to the American cheese is the only cheese set.

Biden doesn’t have to do a damned thing. No one is expecting him to change his appearance at this time. Nor should they.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:20:11am

re: #261 Hecuba’s daughter

I also got the worm.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:21:51am

re: #274 Dave In Austin

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Wow. I can’t believe they rolled out Kathy Bates for the rebuttal. It was so fucking transparent that the GQP thought this would appeal to the suburban moms who are fleeing the anti-female/anti-freedom/forced-birther GQP.

Kathy Bates is going to be bigger SNL punching bag than oSarah bin Palin ever was.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:22:13am

George Santos is apparently delusional enough to think that he belongs back in Congress, and is going to run for Congress against a GOPer in a neighboring district to the one he previously represented. The GOPer, Nick LaLota, insisted on Congress booting Santos for his malfeasance and criminal conduct.

I don’t think Santos will get far in his effort, but will likely use the campaign effort to fund his legal defense.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:23:02am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

Palin had lasting ability; Britt wont last past the one SNL spoof (likely to come this weekend).

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:24:05am

OOPS!

Guest of far-right House Republican arrested for heckling Biden’s SOTU

But House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-California) responded to Biden’s speech with plenty of eye-rolling, and other MAGA Republicans in attendance did their share of heckling. Moreover, a Biden critic who attended at the invitation of far-right Rep. Brian Mast (R-Florida), Steve Nikoui, was arrested for being disruptive.

Nikoui is the father of a U.S. marine killed during the bombing of the Kabul Airport in Afghanistan in 2021, Kareem M. Nikoui.

After Biden said that “America is safer today than when I took office,” Nikoui shouted “Abbey Gate” and “United States Marines.”

According to Capitol Police, Nikoui had a chance to avoid arrest but wouldn’t quit yelling.

A Capitol Police spokesperson told Axios, “Tonight at approximately 10:15 p.m., a man disrupted the State of the Union address by yelling. Our officers warned him to stop, and when he did not, the man was removed from the House Galleries and was arrested.”

Nikoui, according to the spokesperson, was charged with a misdemeanor.

Mast commented on Nikoui’s arrest on X, formerly Twitter, posting, “The Sergeant at Arms is holding my State of the Union guest for yelling at @POTUS in protest because his son was killed in action at the Abbey Gate due to Biden’s incompetence. So much for the right to petition our government for the redress of grievances.”

But activist Fred Guttenberg, whose 14-year-old daughter Jaime Guttenberg was killed during the Parkland High School massacre in Florida on February 14, 2018, called Mast out in a tweet of his own.

Guttenberg posted, “Hey Brian, during final Trump STU, I yelled only once, ‘What about victims of gun violence like my daughter?’ I don’t recall your concern then for my arrest. I remember when you actually acted with decency towards me after the shooting. Sadly, you are pathetically lost now.”

alternet.org

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:24:44am

…it’s better to be lucky than good….

According to wordbot, there was was least 34 words left after my second guess:

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:28:47am

The MAGAts are parodying themselves now:

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jeffreyw  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:30:16am

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:30:32am

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:30:45am

re: #294 lawhawk

Palin had lasting ability; Britt wont last past the one SNL spoof (likely to come this weekend).

Her response was a MAGA OnlyStans video.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:31:03am

re: #38 Egregious Philbin

Its like listening to the neighbor hood Karen, who is also the head of the HOA.

Her family eats Door Dash. She never cooks.

There’s not even a cutting board next to the sink. No knife block?

Is this really a kitchen or a basement storage room where the corpses are broken down and stored for the end times?

Creepy as fuck.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:33:45am

re: #298 jeffreyw

Perfect fishtank for a kitty. They can look at the fish and not get wet.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:34:25am

Mastodon

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A Cranky One  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:38:17am

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Oblongatis  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:45:18am

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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Families just like you and us who can, of course, afford a 50K kitchen make over as most Alabama citizens can with the prosperity our policies bring to the working people.

Showing off the dream kitchen in a state with a housing and income problems is a winner.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:54:53am

Partridge today.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 6:57:42am

re: #304 A Cranky One

We had frozen alligators again a few weeks ago in NC. Apparently they can stay that way for extended periods as long as their nose is above the ice.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:03:35am

re: #294 lawhawk

Palin had lasting ability; Britt wont last past the one SNL spoof (likely to come this weekend).

Its already written
Or they could, you know, just play it again

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mmmirele  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:03:36am

re: #135 jaunte

@dell.bsky.social

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You know, it wasn’t the lack of shit in her kitchen that annoyed me, it was the assertion that “our future starts around kitchen tables like this. With Moms and dads just like you.”

Way to fucking tell me, Katie Britt, that childless people are not part of the GOP vision for America. Fuck that noise.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:05:02am

re: #215 Nerdy Fish

The early birdle gets the Wordle.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:05:36am

re: #295 Joe Bacon ✅

So much for the right to petition our government for the redress of grievances.”

Yeah
That’s how this works
You have to first be invited to the sotu so you can petition the govt….

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:06:18am

re: #298 jeffreyw

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No Malarkey!  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:07:01am

re: #273 No Malarkey!

Economy added 275,000 jobs in February, but the January and December numbers were revised sharply downward and unemployment ticked up, clear signs that the economy is gently slowing as the Fed intended. bls.gov

Even though the unemployment rate ticked slightly higher, the prime age employment ratio was also up a tenth of a point, near the highest level it’s been in 23 years.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:08:25am

re: #305 Oblongatis

Families just like you and us who can, of course, afford a 50K kitchen make over as most Alabama citizens can with the prosperity our policies bring to the working people.

Showing off the dream kitchen in a state with a housing and income problems is a winner.

Ffs she makes $174k a year
Plus hubby’s income

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:08:31am

re: #309 mmmirele

And, as I noted earlier, so many families have parents that work different schedules so the family doesn’t get to sit together.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:11:05am

I managed to stick it out through the entire “rebuttal”. (Note to future responders: it’s a good Idea to read what you’ll be answering before composing your response.) I think it’s because I listened to it instead of watching it, also because I’d just listened to Biden. So it sounded like a parody from beginning to end. I kept wanting to tell her that before she took her comedy show on the road, she needed to tone it down a bit.

(Having now seen a few shots of the TV broadcast, I would add that the kitchen set really needs a few props to be convincing. And do some work on the weird hand gestures.)

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:13:22am

re: #316 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

I managed to stick it out through the entire “rebuttal”. (Note to future responders: it’s a good Idea to read what you’ll be answering before composing your response.) I think it’s because I listened to it instead of watching it, also because I’d just listened to Biden. So it sounded like a parody from beginning to end. I kept wanting to tell her that before she took her comedy show on the road, she needed to tone it down a bit.

(Having now seen a few shots of the TV broadcast, I would add that the kitchen set really needs a few props to be convincing. And do some work on the weird hand gestures.)

It was fascinating. I watched her body language and that was a lot of how she came off as so creepy

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:14:40am

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:15:01am

re: #305 Oblongatis

But the image of a woman in the kitchen is the lasting one - that’s where GOPers want women, not in boardrooms, or making key decisions in government.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:18:31am

Hang in there, it’s Friday.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:23:32am
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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:26:04am

re: #322 lawhawk

“But I don’t believe in Jesus.”
“Well, I don’t believe in you either.”

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dat_said  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:27:06am

re: #318 Dangerman

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Check out the contrast between the faces of Sen. John Thune and Sec. Pete Buttigieg during that moment.

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Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:28:23am

Haven’t seen one of these in a long time.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:35:42am

Briefly lecturing on early 20th century totalitarianism. Differences and similarities between Stalinism and fascism.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:38:38am

re: #311 Dangerman

Yeah
That’s how this works
You have to first be invited to the sotu so you can petition the govt….

But it is perfectly ok to run down actual protesters in the street.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:39:22am

re: #327 Eventual Carrion

But it is perfectly ok to run down actual protesters in the street.

as long as you’re not the government…

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Unabogie  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:57:16am

Looks like Drumpf posted the bond for E Jean Carroll.

Elon or Orban?

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 7:59:36am

re: #329 Unabogie

Looks like Drumpf posted the bond for E Jean Carroll.

Elon or Orban?

Saudis

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:00:39am

re: #329 Unabogie

Looks like Drumpf posted the bond for E Jean Carroll.

Elon or Orban?

The very same week he met with Elmo.

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Captain Ron  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:08:49am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:09:15am

I have to say I was nearly jumping out of my seat last night with that speech. Obama gave great speeches and was a good president but last night Joe rose above that height even. It was the speech he needed to give and the speech America needed to hear. He gave the GOP enough rope to hang themselves with from the sleepy joe nonsense to the do nothing congress and then tightened it last night.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:09:18am

re: #329 Unabogie

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:10:46am

Shouldn’t think the E. Jean bond would be that big a deal to him, he did very well out of the presidency. It’s the $450 million that bites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:10:57am

re: #315 Belafon

And, as I noted earlier, so many families have parents that work different schedules so the family doesn’t get to sit together.

That has become more of the norm. I recall a statistic some years back that something like only 30% of Americans work “normal” hours: as in weekdays with no regular overtime.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:12:28am

re: #335 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

He apparently got an insurance company to pay the bond, and he’s paying the cost for the bond being issued.

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Unabogie  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:13:15am

re: #334 lawhawk

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Every time his sycophants call him “the President” I want to hurl.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:13:26am

re: #337 lawhawk

He apparently got an insurance company to pay the bond, and he’s paying the cost for the bond being issued.

OMFG who would be that stupid

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Unabogie  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:14:14am

re: #337 lawhawk

He apparently got an insurance company to pay the bond, and he’s paying the cost for the bond being issued.

How does that work? Did he have defamation insurance?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:22:35am

Not sure this has been posted yet…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:23:20am

re: #335 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Shouldn’t think the E. Jean bond would be that big a deal to him, he did very well out of the presidency. It’s the $450 million that bites.

The good news is that it keeps this story front and center, i.e., Diaper Don is an adjudicated rapist.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:28:57am

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KingKenrod  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:31:16am

re: #344 No Malarkey!

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more like Chump Corporation when Trump flees to Moscow.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:31:25am

Also reveals the Secret of the Pyramids, gravity hadn’t been invented yet.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:32:12am

re: #344 No Malarkey!

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Self dealing grift all the way.

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JC1  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:34:52am

re: #263 Hecuba’s daughter

Alex Jones hasn’t paid a cent yet — and that case was from 2022. What’s the difference here?

Trump has real estate that can be repossessed, and he doesn’t want to declare bankruptcy *again*.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:36:20am

re: #184 ericblair

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Don’t watch this stoned.

OMG. How was that real? (Not the “For Whom the Bell Tolls” part). I listen to a podcast called “News in Slow Spanish” to help keep up with my Spanish. The whole point of the podcast is that the presenters speak slowly and almost over enunciate. She sounds like she’s doing “News in Slow English”—which, given her target audience makes a ton of sense.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:37:03am

Rafał Kaczmarek
Cherbourg then and now
Av. Aristide Briand
More before and after photos on FB profile podrozezhistoria.pl

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:39:24am

re: #340 Unabogie

A bond is a promise from the bond company (usually an insurer) offering to cover the judgment if he loses his appeal and fails to pay. In exchange, the person must pay the company a fee and pledge collateral, including as much cash as possible.

The company gets a percentage of the fee up front, that depends on the size of the bond requested.

With Trump, anyone posting bond is going to find that Trump’s putting up the same properties he’s overleveraged as collateral, and they may get screwed too. It’s the Trump way. ETTD.

I have not seen an official report indicating who provided the bond.

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:40:58am
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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:44:08am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:46:30am

Aside from the bald eagles, the UC peregrines are also nesting, and it looks like the first egg might nome any day.

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:52:21am

re: #353 gocart mozart

McArglebargle blather

(Receiver runs an 80 yard punt return into the end zone)

“The guy managed to not fall over getting from the equivalent of one side of the parking lot to the other. Just the idea that this might be a problem really tells you something. Now watch me make a simple sauce with a ridiculously overpriced professional cooking appliance.”

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Captain Ron  Mar 8, 2024 • 8:59:58am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:00:36am

Diaper Don: “They [Facebook] are a true Enemy of the People!”

I hope his cult leave FB in droves.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:02:05am

Birbie. Streak of 3. Wordle 993 3/6*

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nines09  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:02:19am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

After 217 Covid Vaccines, Man Had No Side Effects and Robust Immunity

Media accounts of a German man’s extreme vaccination history spurred researchers to analyze his immune responses.

By all rights, this man should be a lizardoid 5G mutant Gates/Soros laser bot!!!

He now hires himself out as a 5G tower.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:02:30am

Then and Now

Came across this in 2016 when in Normandy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:02:42am

So let’s say Trump actually comes up with the $450 million he owes NY (unlikely, I know) will we get to know where that money came from or is Trump allowed to keep it secret?

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:03:12am

re: #356 Captain Ron

Remember that the GOP wanted a dress code enforced against *checks notes* Fetterman, but will let classless asses like MTG do what they want, which is why the Sergeant at Arms didn’t do their job.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:07:59am

re: #356 Captain Ron

MTG is a performance artist, nothing more.

And by “performance artist”, I mean in the same exact way a zoo chimpanzee is a performance artist while it flings poo at gawking tourists.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:13:35am

I think their outrage is shared by anyone with a functioning neuron.

Uvalde families shocked and outraged over report that clears local PD officers of fault in the mass shooting response.

Jesse Prado, a retired Austin police detective, offered the report to the Uvalde city council during a meeting on Thursday. The report is contrary to many other reports about the shooting, including a scathing 2024 Department of Justice report which pointed to “cascading failures” by officers on the scene as well as the cowardice of waiting more than an hour to confront the shooter. A 2022 preliminary report from the Texas House said the officers’ “lackadaisical approach” may have cost the victims’ their lives.

Prado’s report claims none of the officers on the scene violated Uvalde Police Department policy and acted in good faith. The report found “many failures” in the law enforcement response, but did not identify a specific police officer who was responsible for those failures. However, he does cite Border Patrol tactical commander Paul Guerrero, who led the team that killed the gunman, for calling off a move that could have stopped the shooting a half hour earlier because he feared it would take too long too force open the locked classroom door.

It was a CYA whitewashing of a disastrous police response and failures up and down the chain of command.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:15:22am

re: #364 lawhawk

One should expect law enforcement usually won’t hold their own accountable.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:20:01am

re: #364 lawhawk

I think their outrage is shared by anyone with a functioning neuron.

Uvalde families shocked and outraged over report that clears local PD officers of fault in the mass shooting response.

It was a CYA whitewashing of a disastrous police response and failures up and down the chain of command.

Every time they do an active shooter drill on a campus, the local police force needs to be on scene so they can try to keep up.

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:21:18am
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:23:06am

re: #364 lawhawk

It was a CYA whitewashing of a disastrous police response and failures up and down the chain of command.

375 cops were more afraid to break the chain of command than they were of the AR-15.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:27:28am

re: #367 gocart mozart

And they hate the vaccine because Trump demonized it after Biden successfully got it deployed nationwide, and Trump/GOP slow rolled it to the point where GOP states have higher per capita death rates from covid than blue states.

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dat_said  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:31:33am

An out-of-context confession. A projection confession. An in-context confession.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:32:26am

re: #370 dat_said

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An out-of-context confession. A projection confession. An in-context confession.

He watches too much Hannity.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:35:35am
The sad part of it is, Mitch McConnell knows full well that the president was guilty of a crime on Jan. 6. So for him to know how bad the president’s predecessor was on all of this, and then come to the conclusion that he would endorse him when we thought he was going to convict him — the word was, he was close to conviction, and now he’s endorsing — it’s really very, very sad.”

Pelosi

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:39:37am

re: #372 Dangerman

Pelosi

He “more in sorrow than in anger” reply works for her, but does not match my feelings.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:48:09am

Bill Maher might be worth it tonight

Robert De Niro - Max Brooks - Tara Palmeri

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:50:31am
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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:54:42am

re: #369 lawhawk

And they hate the vaccine because Trump demonized it after Biden successfully got it deployed nationwide, and Trump/GOP slow rolled it to the point where GOP states have higher per capita death rates from covid than blue states.

…they were told to.

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2024 • 9:56:33am
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Captain Ron  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:07:47am
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:10:44am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:11:02am

re: #378 Captain Ron

Did she endorse it to her father on the spot?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:12:52am
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dat_said  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:19:36am

Novel ultrasound device gets FDA breakthrough designation with Children’s National support

Happy to say I’m acquainted with these folks and so happy that they’ve received the FDA breakthrough.

Democratizing Neonatal Ultrasound | Annamarie Saarinen, Founder of Bloom Standard at NextMed Health

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:24:28am

Welp, my 3rd period was acting up enough that another teacher came to check on me and she called administration. That….was unwelcome. TBH I wouldn’t have rated them in my top 25 bad classes but I had a very intense principal in my room wanting to know what in the wide, wide world of sports is a goin’ on here.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:26:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:29:12am

...

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:29:45am

Here’s a bit of Katie Britt background:

Wikipedia: “During the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, Britt led a “Keep Alabama Open” effort to self-govern business affairs by avoiding shutdowns and maintain employment.”
yellowhammernews.com

Alabama (at 429 deaths per 100,000 people) was #6 from the top in unsafe state responses.
Death rates from COVID-19 in the United States as of March 10, 2023, by state(per 100,000 people)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:31:35am

Judge Kaplan set time for E. Jean Carroll to oppose Trump’s supersedeas bond request, and March 11 oral argument if she does.

Mastodon

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jeffreyw  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:31:47am

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:34:18am
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:37:56am

re: #388 jeffreyw

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It bee a trap.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:40:36am

re: #390 wrenchwench

It bee a trap.

Captain Jack Aubrey approved.

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Dangerman  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:40:50am
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darthstar  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:43:00am

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

Judge Kaplan set time for E. Jean Carroll to oppose Trump’s supersedeas bond request, and March 11 oral argument if she does.

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The wompage will continue until morale improves.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:44:36am

re: #393 darthstar

The wompage will continue until morale improves.

It’ll be interesting to see if she has any opposition to Trump’s posting of a bond.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:46:44am

My cats enhanced their toy. I did not add that mouse.

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BeachDem  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:50:17am

re: #367 gocart mozart

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Tracy beanz is a South Carolina nut job.

vice.com

Then…

dailydot.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Mar 8, 2024 • 10:52:23am

re: #367 gocart mozart

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@rothschildmd
There’s some real anger on the far right this morning at Trump for taking credit for the COVID vaccine after Biden mentioned it in the SOTU. They love Trump, but they hate the vax more.

They’ve dug themselves into a hole with their need to pretend that fools are the real smart people, like Fox has been telling them for years.


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