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Damn (the other kind of damn)
Dickey Betts died
They did this
On purpose
To themselves
The Freedom Caucus’ Floor Action Response Team, shorthanded as ‘FART,’ aims to guard against an unannounced request to pass resolutions that would stealthily limit their leverage against leadership.”
re: #1 Dangerman
Damn (the other kind of damn)
Dickey Betts died
Huge part of the Allman Brothers. Huge.
We all run out of time.
Sigh….
re: #4 nines09
Unfortunately a lot of legends are in their late 70s and 80s. We’re gonna lose some good ones in the next few years.
re: #4 nines09
Huge part of the Allman Brothers. Huge.
We all run out of time.
Sigh….
Thanks to my first college roommate this was my musical awakening
re: #1 Dangerman
Damn (the other kind of damn)
Dickey Betts died
Ouch that hurts.
Interestingly last month I met Blue Sky (Sandy “Bluesky” Wabegijig), Dickey’s ex-wife for whom the song was named after. I did not know that they have a daughter called Jessica, who also has an Allman Bros song named after her. I was a bit starstruck as they’re one of my favourite acts, and I still actively listen to their material with those two songs being among my favourites.
This was in a very small club watching a band, and I did not want to bother her too much being a drooling fanboy, but she did not have much nice to say about Dickey, unfortunately.
Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has been sweeping through North American deer herds since it was first detected at a captive cervid facility in Wyoming in 1967. In all the decades since, there’s never been a documented and confirmed instance of the always-fatal neurological disease jumping the species barrier, from cervids into humans. According to a new study, published last week in the journal Neurology, that long-discussed and frequently dreaded transmission of CWD from hunter-harvested deer into human beings might have actually occurred in 2022.
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The recent paper describes an unnamed hunter who contracted CJD after regular consumption of venison from deer infected with Chronic Wasting Disease. “In 2022, a 72-year-old man with a history of consuming meat from a CWD-infected deer population presented with rapid-onset confusion and aggression,” it reads.
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Given the patients history of consuming CWD-infected deer meat, the authors suggest “a possible novel animal-to-human transmission of CWD.” They also studied the case of one of the hunters friends who ate venison from the same deer population. That person recently died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease as well, the authors says.
Rest in peace to a master, Allman Bros’ guitarist Dickey Betts, who wrote this lovely song
re: #11 jaunte
Rest in peace to a master, Allman Bros’ guitarist Dickey Betts, who wrote this lovely song
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Iirc
Fooling around with boz scagg’s wife
Rendezvous in a cemetery
Saw “in memory of elizabeth reed” on a tombstone
I feel like the press giving in-depth description of Trump jurors is indicative of a, perhaps the, fundamental problem with the Amercian press
“Reporting” is now viewed as a commercial service. You read what you want to read, as customized as possible, because “news” is just consumption of information, so journalists are incentivized to write what captures an audience and editors are incentivized to configure their publications to retain audience share. Owners and management in turn hold a whip hand over journalism because they view the entire process as yet another market to dominate. The result is a kind of rainbow of compromise, in which what is permissible to report on is not a function of what people need to be informed of, but what they will engage with.
If ideas are a marketplace, then the incentive is to become WalMart for ideas, and I feel like that explains a bunch of what’s happened with the press. They’re making content not reporting news.
Circling back around…giving details on all the jurors is not what people need to know, but what people want to know. Which is kind of the thing that’s happened with Trump all along—he’s a spectacle, people responded to that spectacle, and people producing content understand there’s a guaranteed number of clicks that come with just more and more ponderous detail of Trump-related things. And it’s bipartisan: hate-readers are still readers, schadenfreude and burning malice have the same ad revenue.
The endpoint is the tabloidification of everything: we don’t need to know who the jurors are, but the process can be written in a way that generates tension and strong reaction and thus receive attention attenuated across time. You don’t publish new information because it’s pertinent, but because novelty keeps people paying attention and offers added value compared to slower publishers. That this is harmful simply doesn’t matter, much like access journalists repeating bullshit from unreliable actors, or “man on the street interviews” that don’t notice they’re talking to media-trained shills, or just blindly accepting press circulars put out by institutions that shouldn’t be trusted.
From downstairs:
re: #333 Dr Lizardo
Sounds like Jesse there needs to be investigated for jury tampering.
Jesse needs to be arrested pending the investigation.
Hmmmmmm pic.twitter.com/cvHszxdhO4
— Morgan J. Freeman (@mjfree) April 18, 2024
“Keep people ignorant of the facts or else they’ll serve consequences to our client.”
re: #70 Dangerman
In a narrow sense it’s what computers are.
What word processors are
Spreadsheets
Cad/cam
databases
Other applications..order processing a/r, a/p invoicing inventory, tax,
On and onAutomate the repetitive, remove a lot of error-prone parts. Do the same tasks with less people, faster and with better control, allowing the remaining users to function at a higher level.
From what I have seen, AI is not more than another tool for repetitive tasks or maybe data analysis. Even in those areas it is very limited and lightyears away from where people imagine it is.
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
Unfortunately a lot of legends are in their late 70s and 80s. We’re gonna lose some good ones in the next few years.
We’ve lost a bunch of baseball players over the last week or so, including Whitey Herzog and Ken Holtzman.
Why did Uri Berliner resign from NPR? Because he had become too woke.
— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) April 18, 2024
re: #18 Axolotl
From what I have seen, AI is not more than another tool for repetitive tasks or maybe data analysis. Even in those areas it is very limited and lightyears away from where people imagine it is.
Yeah, the hard thing about talking about AI is that really we’re talking about big algorithms, and there’s a whole taxonomy to big algorithms that’s lumped under one term…largely because the people who own those machines are incentivized to hype their product as the cusp of scifi general intelligence.
Like…really big algorithms for research are useful and good, as long as they’re not black boxes. LLMs are productivity tools. Image makers are…interesting…but ultimately also a productivity tool.
The part which triggers the Luddite in me is that the people controlling these systems have no incentive (with a hype-based tech economy) to ever discuss their limitations. The immediate leap from LLM production to “we must be assigned power now to align general intelligence that we will create later” is…scammy at best, deeply sinister when contextualized by the general Palo Alto/Silicon Valley worldview. Also, that AI owners try to conceal the human labor required to make these systems function—constant labeling and pruning done in sweatshop conditions—and how they are selling these models to large businesses speaks to how this technology exists to primarily convenience capital-holders, and while it is entirely possible these systems could be used for pro-social ends most of the existing value propositions involve facilitating squeezing more value from more and more desperate people.
[And a specific concern we should all have is that the veneer of objectivity granted to AI by both existing tropes and the ongoing promotional campaign has value even if AIs have no objectivity. These are black boxes that create pretexts, and that technology in the hands of people making life-and-death decisions should be questioned constantly. What would powerful people want? A machine that can challenge their preferred conclusions or a machine that is constrained to justify their conclusions?]
re: #19 lawhawk
We’ve lost a bunch of baseball players over the last week or so, including Whitey Herzog and Ken Holtzman.
Growing up in the 60s and 70s, my primary heroes were baseball players and rock stars. They were generally 10 to 20 years older than me. I turn 69 tomorrow. Do the math. About the only BB player in my pantheon still around is Willie Mays, and he’s 92.
re: #18 Axolotl
From what I have seen, AI is not more than another tool for repetitive tasks or maybe data analysis. Even in those areas it is very limited and lightyears away from where people imagine it is.
One other challenge/drawback that I see with what is currently being promoted as AI is that it is heavily dependent on the quality of the training material, and it is so easy to delude yourself into believing that you have an adequate training set and that the subsequent output of that training set is valid.
As an example, company I worked for had a program to develop better algorithms regarding atrial fibrillation (AF) and heart failure (HF). What they learned after the fact and should have known going in was that ALL of the electrograms fed into the training set were, by definition, biased - pretty much the entirety of the electrogram set came from patients with AF and HF and usually only from the time periods of when they were experiencing AF and HF. That bias led to less-than-optimal performance when applied in the real world.
Not to imply that AI will not eventually improve AF and HF algorithms but it’s going to take a lot of effort to come up with something that is truly improves clinical outcomes compared to what is currently accomplished via stethoscope (and a few other tools).
re: #22 The Ghost of a Flea
Yeah, the hard thing about talking about AI is that really we’re talking about big algorithms, and there’s a whole taxonomy to big algorithms that’s lumped under one term…largely because the people who own those machines are incentivized to hype their product as the cusp of scifi general intelligence.
Like…really big algorithms for research are useful and good, as long as they’re not black boxes. LLMs are productivity tools. Image makers are…interesting…but ultimately also a productivity tool.
The part which triggers the Luddite in me is that the people controlling these systems have no incentive (with a hype-based tech economy) to ever discuss their limitations. The immediate leap from LLM production to “we must be assigned power now to align general intelligence that we will create later” is…scammy at best, deeply sinister when contextualized by the general Palo Alto/Silicon Valley worldview. Also, that AI owners try to conceal the human labor required to make these systems function—constant labeling and pruning done in sweatshop conditions—and how they are selling these models to large businesses speaks to how this technology exists to primarily convenience capital-holders, and while it is entirely possible these systems could be used for pro-social ends most of the existing value propositions involve facilitating squeezing more value from more and more desperate people.
(And a specific concern we should all have is that the veneer of objectivity granted to AI by both existing tropes and the ongoing promotional campaign has value even if AI has no objectivity. These are black boxes that create pretexts, and that technology in the hands of people making life-and-death decisions should be questioned constantly. What would powerful people want? A machine that can challenge their preferred conclusions or a machine that is constrained to justify their conclusions?)
my dad was an intelligent guy.
his (our) business was small, staff turnover was regular and that was costly. institutional knowledge walks out the door and then there’s retraining the next group…
so he was forward thinking and always on the lookout for an efficiency edge - that meant automation.
and we did a lot. given our size and market.
he’d see something on tv, and ask me can we do that, use that?
i’d say something like, we could if it existed. right now, they’re lying. this capability doesnt actually exist commercially.
and when it does, it wont be available to us for 10 or 15 years.
oh, and it’ll never work like that.
don’t believe it - with the same confidence you dont believe every other ad.
it was a constant ‘that’s not really real’
re: #23 sizzzzlerz
Growing up in the 60s and 70s, my primary heroes were baseball players and rock stars. They were generally 10 to 20 years older than me. I turn 69 tomorrow. Do the math. About the only BB player in my pantheon still around is Willie Mays, and he’s 92.
“I like Brut”
I’m pretty sure my microwave is haunted.
A 36-year-old House Republican who has served in Congress just three years said Thursday he will not seek reelection in November.Why it matters: Rep. Jake LaTurner’s (R-Kan.) retirement is a stark addition to a trend of House members in both parties sprinting for the exits after a year filled with infighting and discord.
- Two House Republicans told Axios they expect more retirement announcements in the coming weeks.
- What he’s saying: LaTurner, who was first elected in 202o, said in a statement that “after much prayer and consideration, I will not seek reelection this Fall.”“It is time to pursue other opportunities and have the benefit of spending more time with my family,” he said.
LaTurner acknowledged that “the current dysfunction on Capitol Hill is distressing,” but added “it almost always has been; we just didn’t see most of it.”
By the numbers: LaTurner makes nearly 20 House Republican who have left or are planning to leave Congress without immediate plans to run for another office. Another five are seeking higher office.
re: #23 sizzzzlerz
Growing up in the 60s and 70s, my primary heroes were baseball players and rock stars. They were generally 10 to 20 years older than me. I turn 69 tomorrow. Do the math. About the only BB player in my pantheon still around is Willie Mays, and he’s 92.
When Carlton Fisk and Nolan Ryan retired in 1993, I was then older than any active players (if I recall correctly —I’m old, so my memory might be a bit off.🙃)
re: #24 dat_said
One of the instructors in glass paint (both on and with) who haz private faceplant page dedicated to helping people who have take his classes got a note from meta asking if he wanted their AI to help answer questions. Big NOPE. Great way to give shitty advice on a very specific skill based process that would undoubtedly end up working poorly.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
I’m pretty sure my microwave is haunted.
We have a poltergeist living in our toilet tank.
re: #25 Dangerman
my dad was an intelligent guy.
his (our) business was small, staff turnover was regular and that was costly. institutional knowledge walks out the door and then there’s retraining the next group…so he was forward thinking and always on the lookout for an efficiency edge - that meant automation.
and we did a lot. given our size and market.
he’d see something on tv, and ask me can we do that, use that?
i’d say something like, we could if it existed. right now, they’re lying. this capability doesnt actually exist commercially.
and when it does, it wont be available to us for 10 or 15 years.
oh, and it’ll never work like that.
don’t believe it - with the same confidence you dont believe every other ad.it was a constant ‘that’s not really real’
The thing that scares me is the potential for Mechanical Turks. The problem with AI…sort of like steam looms…isn’t the tech itself but how the machine interfaces with existing priorities of application.
Why would anyone with power…be that financial leverage, like a bank or insurance company, or license to do violence like a state…want to use a system that could find fault with their preferred mode of operation?
An insurance company won’t pay for an algorithm that grants more claims. A bank doesn’t want an analytic device that accurately tells people how much of a loan they should get. I see this as a major obstacle to the idea of general intelligence: if superintelligent system produces outcomes that the people that own it and expect to gain money/power from it don’t want, why wouldn’t they just bend the machine or build a new one?
AI…both the current tech and the hypothesized future tech…are landing inside of an existing system in which capital trumps objectivity every time. The people that don’t want to acknowledge climate change, or want to believe that poor countries are poor because of the character of the inhabitants, already ignore data analysis that contradicts them…but also deliberately create the simulacrum of data analysis to justify their existing ends.
re: #27 Charles Johnson
I’m pretty sure my microwave is haunted.
Okay, that’s a great first sentence for the short story.
You have us hooked, we’re waiting to hear the next development.
re: #1 Dangerman
Damn (the other kind of damn)
Dickey Betts died
My favorite Dicky Betts song (along with Elizebeth Reed).
re: #24 dat_said
Training data is going to be a concern, especially due to latent bias and quality of data sets. Companies that have high quality data, are going to have an easier time applying that data to the model and getting better results. The key will be minimizing hallucinating activities and what will be considered acceptable percentage of such hallucinations.
If you have 99% certainty, that means you’ll get an incorrect result, that seems great, but if you’re getting 100000 searches a day, you’ll be spitting out a bunch of incorrect outputs, and depending on the use, it could have deadly consequences.
re: #32 dat_said
We have a poltergeist living in our toilet tank.
You too? Seems to be a real common infestation.
re: #11 jaunte
Rest in peace to a master, Allman Bros’ guitarist Dickey Betts, who wrote this lovely song
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duane’s high repeated lick towards the end of his solo is difficult as hell to pull off cleanly. I know this partly because he screws it up when he tries it on Mountain Jam from the extended version of the album :-)
I’m paraphrasing this essay:
Algorithms might also be black-boxed through the force of law by the tech companies who claim them as trade secrets. In The Black Box Society, Frank Pasquale details how many of the algorithms that govern information and finance —the circulation of data and dollars — are shrouded in opacity. Algorithms are often described as a type of recipes. Just as Coca Cola keeps their formula a tightly guarded secret, so too do tech companies fiercely protect their “secret sauce.” Again, it’s one thing to enjoy a beverage we can’t reverse-engineer, but quite another to take on faith proprietary software that makes sentencing decisions in criminal cases.
Potemkin AI is related to black boxing, but it pushes obfuscation into deception. The Mechanical Turk, like many of the much-discussed AI systems today, was not just a black box that hides its inner workings from prying eyes. After all, Kempelen literally opened his automaton’s cabinet and purported to explain how what looked to be a complex machine worked. Except that he was lying. Similarly, marketing about AI systems deploy technical buzzwords work as though they were a magician’s incantations: Smart! Intelligent! Automated! Cognitive computing! Deep learning! Abracadabra! Alakazam!
Weaving the right spell can endow an AI system with powers of objectivity, neutrality, authority, efficiency, and other desirable attributes and outcomes. Like any good trick, it matters less if the system actually works that way than if people believe it does and act accordingly.
re: #36 lawhawk
Training data is going to be a concern, especially due to latent bias and quality of data sets. Companies that have high quality data, are going to have an easier time applying that data to the model and getting better results. The key will be minimizing hallucinating activities and what will be considered acceptable percentage of such hallucinations.
If you have 99% certainty, that means you’ll get an incorrect result, that seems great, but if you’re getting 100000 searches a day, you’ll be spitting out a bunch of incorrect outputs, and depending on the use, it could have deadly consequences.
The latent bias, or the easy to delude yourself that your data set doesn’t have bias, is going to result in a lot of failed AI. Just wonder how much of that will be detected before fielding.
What was missing from the ECG data set for AF and HF? Oh, lots of walking around normal rhythms, and riding the bike rhythms, and I have a flu rhythms and I just ate rhythms and so much more that when the developed algorithms were tested in the real world more false positives showed up than actual positives. Which is a total waste of the medical infrastructure. Sure, you don’t want to miss a diagnosis but if your entire practice is ruling out false positives, you get jaded and likely end up dismissing real issues.
re: #8 Dizzy
Ouch that hurts.
Interestingly last month I met Blue Sky (Sandy “Bluesky” Wabegijig), Dickey’s ex-wife for whom the song was named after. I did not know that they have a daughter called Jessica, who also has an Allman Bros song named after her. I was a bit starstruck as they’re one of my favourite acts, and I still actively listen to their material with those two songs being among my favourites.
This was in a very small club watching a band, and I did not want to bother her too much being a drooling fanboy, but she did not have much nice to say about Dickey, unfortunately.
They had a difficult relationship. She was not without fault. One of the times Dicky suspected Sandy to be unfaithful, he took an axe to her car.
Didn’t break out any windows, but until she replaced the car, she drove around in her Mercedes with ~50 axe holes in the body work.
I’m withholding praise from Maga Mike until he actually puts a Ukraine aid bill on the floor for a vote that doesn’t include poison pills. But if he does, I wouldn’t oppose Democrats voting to keep him as Speaker if the crazy caucus privileges a motion to vacate, if its necessary to get the aid package through.
2. Moreno benefited from an early endorsement from Kirk’s org, @TPAction_.
Moreno wrote that he was “honored to be endorsed by Charlie Kirk and Turning Point Action” and endorsed the work of the org.
“Few have done more to fight back against the radical left than they have. and… pic.twitter.com/f5SKcyoQoV— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) April 18, 2024
re: #19 lawhawk
Learned earlier this week that Holtzman has the most wins by a Jewish pitcher with 174. That is 9 more than Sandy Koufax
re: #22 The Ghost of a Flea
Yeah, the hard thing about talking about AI is that really we’re talking about big algorithms, and there’s a whole taxonomy to big algorithms that’s lumped under one term…largely because the people who own those machines are incentivized to hype their product as the cusp of scifi general intelligence.
Like…really big algorithms for research are useful and good, as long as they’re not black boxes. LLMs are productivity tools. Image makers are…interesting…but ultimately also a productivity tool.
The part which triggers the Luddite in me is that the people controlling these systems have no incentive (with a hype-based tech economy) to ever discuss their limitations. The immediate leap from LLM production to “we must be assigned power now to align general intelligence that we will create later” is…scammy at best, deeply sinister when contextualized by the general Palo Alto/Silicon Valley worldview. Also, that AI owners try to conceal the human labor required to make these systems function—constant labeling and pruning done in sweatshop conditions—and how they are selling these models to large businesses speaks to how this technology exists to primarily convenience capital-holders, and while it is entirely possible these systems could be used for pro-social ends most of the existing value propositions involve facilitating squeezing more value from more and more desperate people.
[And a specific concern we should all have is that the veneer of objectivity granted to AI by both existing tropes and the ongoing promotional campaign has value even if AIs have no objectivity. These are black boxes that create pretexts, and that technology in the hands of people making life-and-death decisions should be questioned constantly. What would powerful people want? A machine that can challenge their preferred conclusions or a machine that is constrained to justify their conclusions?]
I tried to avoid the use of the word “scam” but I am glad you did. I work with some of these tools and I just don’t understand the hype. As of now and as far as I can tell and not on the immediate horizon do these tools demonstrate volition or come up with their own ideas.
Until then they are indistiquishable from a calculator or a shovel in a day to day business situation.
However, I am concerned over multiple nefarious purposes. For example, it could analyse data for an insurance company in order to determine your rates (the black box you mentioned).
It could be used to analyse all avalable data to determine whether a company should hire you, or a school should accept you. All using an unasailable black box.
It could (will be) used to analyse your social media to determine your political proclivities. This could be used in the future for warfare purposes. Think a roving drone with face recognition and a mounted gun is that far around the corner? I think we have all the requisite components for that.
I know the first use of armed roving drones with facial recognition will be used for a “honorable” purpose. Wouldn’t it be great if Isreal could only target the bad guys? Then it will be used all over and will be cheap as hell.
It can do these things today or in the near future.
REPORT: Right Wing Jobs Group Exposed Details Of 1500+ Applicants, Including Social Security Numbers https://t.co/6LNJPnG0Pr pic.twitter.com/0SdOGssvx8
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) April 18, 2024
The right-wing group that leads a recruitment effort for Capitol Hill offices and allied nonprofits, the Conservative Partnership Institute (CPI), has for months left exposed the sensitive personal information of applicants to its online “jobs bank,” the Washington Free Beacon found, including members of the U.S. intelligence community, congressional aides, former Trump administration officials, and campaign operatives.
Led by former Heritage Foundation president Jim DeMint and one of his former aides, Ed Corrigan, as well as by former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, who the New York Times reported is paid $847,000 to serve as the organization’s “senior partner.”
Allman Brothers Band were no angels.
There were many affairs and fights and drug and alcohol drenched tours.
Most of the band had large heroin habits.
And for your perusal, Derek Trucks looks just like…..
Only surviving founding member is Jaimoe who is/was the black drummer.
re: #50 nines09
Most major rock and pop bands of that era wrestled with demons.
Ahh. I just got my new jeans. Thanks LLBean.
RIP Libertarianism.
Republicans have all but dropped “free market” talking points and now pivot towards a Populist command economy list of plans:
As Trump and his economic henchmen plan to devalue the US dollar they of course play a card played many many times from economies such as Venezuela to China under autocratic leaders. Gone are the days of “strong dollar” Republicans and in their place a jumbled mess of planned economy, kleptocracy and unaccountability for anything other than complete loyalty towards Trump himself.
Trump’s populism will also need price controls to deal with the resulting rampant inflation of a US Dollar devaluation. Basic necessities, common MAGA complaints and personal fetishes of Trump himself will fall under the command economy including mandating a fixed price $25k work truck, 5% mortgage rates and $2/gal gasoline. These distortions throughout the economy will mean bare shelves, utter corruption at all levels of government and corporate cowtowing towards Trump’s every whim.
Die-hard Libertarians never saw Trump coming. He conned them more than any other group in the country. But I suspect most of them have already left the reservation and migrated firmly towards the open Fascism that their supposed “Libertarianism” once provided cover for.
And here I thought the Christian Exodus movement to South Carolina splcenter.org
had died out, but it looks like they just rebranded. I just lost my lunch.
nytimes.com
re: #55 BeachDem
And here I thought the Christian Exodus movement to South Carolina splcenter.org
had died out, but it looks like they just rebranded. I just lost my lunch.
nytimes.com
Were you using Charles’ haunted microwave?
My name is Caroline Gleich. I’m a professional ski mountaineer running to replace Mitt Romney in the Senate.
I don’t look like your average Senator—I think that’s a good thing. A political outsider is exactly what Utah needs to get things done in D.C.
We will win this race. pic.twitter.com/mtA58rZFbH— Caroline Gleich (@carolinegleich) March 27, 2024
Abortion will be on the ballot in Nevada.
Should help Biden and Rosen.
re: #52 goddamnedfrank
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Yes, but if you were a first responder who wanted to use a large language model to answer this question, you could keep around a giant file of best practices for every king of emergency. You then feed this file into the LLM and ask your question stipulating that it only use the information you provided to answer it.
The better models will give you the correct answer 95%+ of the time, and if the answer doesn’t exist, it will say so.
This could be much faster than trying to find the right manual and page, or even querying a database.
It’s easy to break LLMs if that’s your goal. It’s easy to get garbage answers if you don’t know what you’re doing. It’s relatively easy to make really useful tools out of them if you know what you’re doing and are aware of the limitations. In this regard they’re no different than any other tool.
re: #3 Decatur Deb
At another place I occasionally hang at one of the members, if shown that photo, will declare it as “AI generated!”
They’ve made it clear their goal is utter eradication of all Palestinians.
He’s one of the reasons I’m only there occasionally.
re: #48 Axolotl
I tried to avoid the use of the word “scam” but I am glad you did. I work with some of these tools and I just don’t understand the hype. As of now and as far as I can tell and not on the immediate horizon do these tools demonstrate volition or come up with their own ideas.
Until then they are indistiquishable from a calculator or a shovel in a day to day business situation.
However, I am concerned over multiple nefarious purposes. For example, it could analyse data for an insurance company in order to determine your rates (the black box you mentioned).
It could be used to analyse all avalable data to determine whether a company should hire you, or a school should accept you. All using an unasailable black box.
It could (will be) used to analyse your social media to determine your political proclivities. This could be used in the future for warfare purposes. Think a roving drone with face recognition and a mounted gun is that far around the corner? I think we have all the requisite components for that.
I know the first use of armed roving drones with facial recognition will be used for a “honorable” purpose. Wouldn’t it be great if Isreal could only target the bad guys? Then it will be used all over and will be cheap as hell.
It can do these things today or in the near future.
exactly. just a tool. a bigger shovel, or heavier hammer.
this issue then will be who is making the actual decision
a human with responsibility or the black box
we do not lose our responsibility and agency just because of where we think ‘the answer’ is coming from
it’s that same old concept: just because it came out of an expensive computer and is printed on green and white striped paper doesnt automatically mean it’s correct
that’s been proven time and time again, sometimes to great peril or financial cost.
AI won’t be “I” until we come to terms with what “I”ntelligence actually is and how it works.
imo that’s a long time off
re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea
I refer to most of the journalistic media as “drug dealers.”
They sell the drugs, fear, anger, and hate to the addicts. The addicts buy the sponsors’ products. The sponsors pay the dealers.
Like all such operations it’s very profitable.
re: #59 JC1
It’s easy to break LLMs if that’s your goal. It’s easy to get garbage answers if you don’t know what you’re doing.
IMAO, this applies to most MBAs who get the bright idea to implement them.
re: #50 nines09
Allman Brothers Band were no angels.
There were many affairs and fights and drug and alcohol drenched tours.
Most of the band had large heroin habits.
And for your perusal, Derek Trucks looks just like…..
Only surviving founding member is Jaimoe who is/was the black drummer.
they are one of the few groups i’ve always been able to separate their personal from professional lives.
clapton is/was a huge part of my library. he”s gone and i’m not getting him back
re: #24 dat_said
This demonstrates the need for a historian.
In WWII they did studies of aircraft that came back from combat. They used these studies to determine what areas of an aircraft needed to be toughened or armoured.
Areas conspicuously missing from these studies were the pilot’s cockpits, the engines, and the fuel tanks. That was because aircraft hit in these areas tended not to come back.
It took awhile before they noticed this. Which lead to more personnel lost in combat.
Can’t remember the term for this phenomena. Interesting though.
However, as John Ralston Saul points out, in a purely rational society history is regarded as irrational and thus of no use.
re: #65 Romantic Heretic
The survivor’s fallacy.
re: #42 The Ghost of a Flea
Back when I was in coding I was briefly considering starting my own company which included a Potemkin Village.
That village would consist of actors, all nice, neat, and professional looking, in a nice, neat, and professional looking office, that I would show to the management of my clients.
The actual coders would be somewhere else, doing what they wanted as long as they made the deadlines.
Not sure it would work but considering how much I loathed management I would have enjoyed fooling them like that.
The juror descriptions at CNN sound like bad news for Trump, but there is this guy (still too much info about jurors being reported IMO):
Juror 2 is an investment banker who has a Master’s degree. He lives with his wife and does not have any kids. He follows Trump’s TruthSocial posts and Michael Cohen on X/Twitter. He said he’s followed Trump since he became president, “Generally because it was a news item when he would put a tweet out so good to be aware of that.” The juror has also read Trump’s book, “The Art of the Deal.”
re: #72 KingKenrod
The juror descriptions at CNN sound like bad news for Trump, but there is this guy (still too much info about jurors being reported IMO):
He doesn’t sound like a full-on Trump supporter, though. I’m not super worried about it.
re: #54 Florida Panhandler
I recently read a perfect description of anarchists. Sorry! Libertarians!
House cats: Supremely sure of their fierce independence while living off a system they neither understand nor appreciate.
re: #72 KingKenrod
He lives with his wife and does not have any kids.
He has his hands full with little Roth and Fidelity.
re: #73 Nerdy Fish
He doesn’t sound like a full-on Trump suppoerter, though. I’m not super worried about it.
Yeah, probably a lot of people in Manhattan like this. Seems like the jury has a lot of well-educated professionals on it.
re: #52 goddamnedfrank
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I fed the same question into Copilot. It gave instructions on personal response and safety. When I asked how to extinguish a vinyl chloride fire, it instructed to use CO2 or dry powder extinguishers, and explicitly not water.
Copilot seems much more measured overall and is much more visibly a “search results into plain language” aggregator. On the surface, this makes it less useful - I wanted to know how much of the London Underground is below sea level, and it gave me a response which was chock full of interesting information about depths of the system, but which didn’t answer the actual question - but if ChatGPT is gonna make shit up in the hopes I’ll give it a cookie, I’ll stick with Mr Gates’ offering.
re: #76 KingKenrod
Yeah, probably a lot of people in Manhattan like this. Seems like the jury has a lot of well-educated professionals on it.
Typically the kind of people who are able to actually sit on a jury, whereas working-class folks tend to invent excuses to get themselves excused (or, in this case, perhaps self-identify as being unable to be impartial).
re: #79 jaunte
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The vast majority of Americans want to get fucked over by credit card companies and pay higher prices? I mean, I suppose the MAGAts Mr. Barr is familiar with are perfectly fine getting grifted, but I wouldn’t say that’s a vast majority of all Americans, just the idiots he knows.
re: #80 Nerdy Fish
Maybe he’s so accustomed to telling ridiculous lies he doesn’t notice them coming out.
Okre: #42 The Ghost of a Flea
I’m paraphrasing this essay:
*snip*
Weaving the right spell can endow an AI system with powers of objectivity, neutrality, authority, efficiency, and other desirable attributes and outcomes. Like any good trick, it matters less if the system actually works that way than if people believe it does and act accordingly.
A friend who uses AI in his research says it’s a great tool, but cautions there’s a danger that AI can make the model used by entities radicalizing socially isolated individuals more effective.
I could be a juror in New York…so long as they provide good deli during deliberations I could stretch it out for a week.
re: #70 Romantic Heretic
Back when I was in coding I was briefly considering starting my own company which included a Potemkin Village.
That village would consist of actors, all nice, neat, and professional looking, in a nice, neat, and professional looking office, that I would show to the management of my clients.
Back in the 1980s Accuracy International, a British firearms business was a couple of blokes in a grotty workshop. They built target rifles, very good ones. They entered the competition for the British Army’s contract for a new sniper rifle, up against established large firms from Britain and abroad and to their great surprise the handful of sample rifles they sent in won, being accurate and reliable and easy to maintain. They now had a problem, they didn’t actually have production facilities or staff or any way of actually producing the hundreds of rifles that were ordered and the Army was sending a couple of senior people around to inspect their premises.
So they rented a big workshop and a lot of machine tools and hired a few people to be in place on the day, standing around the tools and benches and pretending to make stuff while they shepherded the senior officers around their “factory floor” as fast as possible before taking them out for a liquid lunch at the local pub. The staffers, as they were poured into a taxi afterwards explained “We were just visiting to check that you weren’t two guys in a backyard shed.”
Accuracy International went on to revolutionise the sniper rifle concept, selling to the US Army and the military and police services of many other nations.
re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg
12
Angry Menjurors and 1 Angry Man
1 Angry Man should be the title of his biopic.
re: #83 PhillyPretzel ✅
His argument appears to be that the banks will take the money anyway, and with certain fees, they’re mostly taking it from people who have been irresponsible, instead of taking it from everyone.
re: #88 jaunte
And what if they just… don’t? Surely they can come up with a rule for that.
Trump’s tweets may not have put him behind bars for contempt, but they just made his lawyers’ lives harder.
Reporters in the courtroom relay that prosecutors refused to extend the normal courtesy of telling the defense which witnesses are coming up because Trump tweets about it. Fine says judge.
trump has come out of the courthouse with a big stack of printed out news stories, and is reading headlines and blurbs about how the case against him is bad and also alvin bragg is bad lol
Trump’s “lady who blows smoke up his ass via wireless printer” has been keeping herself busy during jury selection.
re: #93 jaunte
I don’t think you can control your client is a pretty good foreshadowing for next week’s hearing on gah order violations.
re: #93 jaunte
Judge: “I don’t think you can commit to that.” OUCH. That one’s going to sting. In essence, the judge just told Trump’s lawyers, “I already know you can’t control your client. This is my gentle reminder to you that this means I can have him jailed for contempt at any time, so choose your battles very carefully.”
re: #22 The Ghost of a Flea
The lying from people seeking capital is a problem, but AI is being used to murder people today, a much worse problem.
A bunch of Google employees got fired over a sit-in protesting the use of Google’s AI to target Palestinians and their families based on participation in WhatsApp groups. AI is being used for hardcore evil today.
AI won’t destroy civilization, but capitalists trying to make a buck might get the job done.
re: #70 Romantic Heretic
Back when I was in coding I was briefly considering starting my own company which included a Potemkin Village.
That village would consist of actors, all nice, neat, and professional looking, in a nice, neat, and professional looking office, that I would show to the management of my clients.
The actual coders would be somewhere else, doing what they wanted as long as they made the deadlines.
Not sure it would work but considering how much I loathed management I would have enjoyed fooling them like that.
Enron did this - set up offices in which employees made fake trades to show interested parties a company “hard at work making money”.
re: #100 BeenHereAwhile
Enron did this - set up offices in which employees made fake trades to show interested parties a company “hard at work making money”.
When I was at a startup, we’d put our personal items on the unmanned desks when potential clients were visiting. We did eventually fill those desks with people. Sometimes you have to fake it until you make it.
re: #94 jaunte
Lemme guess..right wing rags and editorials?
And also, how is that not an effort to taint the jury pool?
re: #100 BeenHereAwhile
Enron did this - set up offices in which employees made fake trades to show interested parties a company “hard at work making money”.
And look how well that turned out for them.
/
re: #84 darthstar
I could be a juror in New York…so long as they provide good deli during deliberations I could stretch it out for a week.
They definitely have good deli. And if they’re sequestered, for jurors under 30 the hotel room they’re put in is larger, cleaner and has fewer roommates than their regular apartment….
re: #96 darthstar
I don’t think you can control your client is a pretty good foreshadowing for next week’s hearing on gah order violations.
I wonder what the effect on Trump would be if the judge, right before end-of-day adjournment, addressed him with the following statement:
“Normally, for a blatant disregard for an order would merit a 30-day jail sentence for contempt, but I’m going to cut you a break just this one time and hold you overnight until tomorrow’s court session. Any further transgression will not be afforded any leniency”, and have him escorted to a holding cell to cool his heels, with zero outside contact other than brief meetings with one of his defense team.
Anyone think that the mango Mussolini would take the hint?
re: #82 BeenHereAwhile
A friend who uses AI in his research says it’s a great tool, but cautions there’s a danger that AI can make the model used by entities radicalizing socially isolated individuals more effective.
Same friend (we’re txting re AI) sent this anecdote :
” With all the AI entities, one has to ask for references and then check the references.
I called out ChatGPT on something it made up.
It apologized. I asked it some questions about its QA/QC protocols and at first it was giving me answers…then it said I was asking too many questions and I needed to come back later.”
re: #102 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
When I was at a startup, we’d put our personal items on the unmanned desks when potential clients were visiting. We did eventually fill those desks with people. Sometimes you have to fake it until you make it.
As Uncle Billy used to say:
“The play’s the thing.”
Speed of light is 299,792,458 metres per second.
The exact latitude of the Great Pyramid of Giza are 29.9792458°N.
Coincidence? I don’t think so!— World of Engineering (@engineers_feed) May 21, 2022
re: #98 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
A bunch of Google employees got fired over a sit-in protesting the use of Google’s AI to target Palestinians and their families based on participation in WhatsApp groups. AI is being used for hardcore evil today.
Didn’t Google’s motto used to be “don’t be evil”?
Your Honor, I submit into evidence articles by @JonathanTurley and @AndrewCMcCarthy and demand you issue a directed verdict in my favor. https://t.co/EmjJ5CovvV
— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) April 18, 2024
re: #111 sagehen
Didn’t Google’s motto used to be “don’t be evil”?
A long time ago, in a more innocent time.
re: #62 Romantic Heretic
I refer to most of the journalistic media as “drug dealers.”
They sell the drugs, fear, anger, and hate to the addicts. The addicts buy the sponsors’ products. The sponsors pay the dealers.
Like all such operations it’s very profitable.
It is an established fact that negative news stories get more clicks than positive stories. It is an addiction.
re: #80 Nerdy Fish
The vast majority of Americans want to get fucked over by credit card companies and pay higher prices? I mean, I suppose the MAGAts Mr. Barr is familiar with are perfectly fine getting grifted, but I wouldn’t say that’s a vast majority of all Americans, just the idiots he knows.
All of the bank lobbyists he socializes with strongly prefer high fees. Reminds me of the apocryphal story of the Manhattan socialite who didn’t understand how Nixon could possibly have been elected President because she didn’t know anyone who voted for him.
re: #65 Romantic Heretic
This demonstrates the need for a historian.
In WWII they did studies of aircraft that came back from combat. They used these studies to determine what areas of an aircraft needed to be toughened or armoured.
Areas conspicuously missing from these studies were the pilot’s cockpits, the engines, and the fuel tanks. That was because aircraft hit in these areas tended not to come back.
It took awhile before they noticed this. Which lead to more personnel lost in combat.
Can’t remember the term for this phenomena. Interesting though.
However, as John Ralston Saul points out, in a purely rational society history is regarded as irrational and thus of no use.
I asked the LLM…
The term for this phenomenon is “survivorship bias.” Survivorship bias is a logical error of focusing on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, often because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to false conclusions in several different ways. In the case of the WWII aircraft, the bias led to an initial focus on reinforcing areas that showed damage in returning planes, mistakenly ignoring that planes hit in critical areas (like the cockpit, engines, or fuel tanks) did not survive to be studied.
re: #77 Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿
re: #111 sagehen
Didn’t Google’s motto used to be “don’t be evil”?
It was, until they realized that attitude was cutting into its profits.
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