Video: Meadows, Giuliani, and Other Trump Associates Indicted in AZ 2020 Election Subversion Case

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CNN’s Zach Cohen, Erin Burnett, and a panel of analysts and experts discuss the breaking news that a grand jury in Arizona handed up an indictment against former President Donald Trump’s allies over their efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, including the fake electors from that state and several individuals connected to his campaign. #CNN #News

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2024 • 4:59:49pm

Ok, fine LOL! From downstairs PBTH, I got CL’d.

Dam on the Chippewa River at Eau Claire, Wi creating Dells Pond, originally to hold lumber, now used for recreation, flood control and for the Cascade paper mill (toilet paper) on the east side there, as seen from what we call the “high bridge”. It was a railroad bridge constructed in the 1880’s by the C&NW and given to Eau Claire in 2007 and converted into a foot bridge.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:00:48pm

re: #1 William Lewis

Fantastic rich tonal range in that one!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:03:35pm

Ahhh another glorious day.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:05:26pm

Got it from DK
dailykos.com

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:07:00pm

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:08:19pm

Took a bunch of 50mm shots of the same bridge with a 1937 lens. Said lens was of a kind that collapses so you could put the camera into your coat pocket (big suit or overcoat pockets like they had then but I digress). It was _slightly_ collapsed. OOPS! all those shots were out of focus as a result. Since I’m doing a thing where I have at least one shot a day all year, I had to redo something. So I channelled my usual inner ‘Murcan boi… LOL!

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:08:55pm

Effin’ birds on point today.

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:09:00pm

Put 10 miles in on the road bike, super casual on the river bike path. Sunny skies, light wind, 72° F. Very nice.

Giphy

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mmmirele  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:12:23pm

Um, wow? Wow.

This article gives a list of the indicted, and it’s a roll call of many of the crazy leaders of the AZ GOP:

Others charged were: state legislators Anthony Kern and Jake Hoffman; Michael Ward, Kelli Ward’s husband; Tyler Bowyer, the Republican National Committee’s Arizona committeeman and the chief operating officer of the Trump-aligned Turning Point USA; Greg Safsten, the former Arizona GOP executive director; former U.S. Senate candidate Jim Lamon; Robert Montgomery, the former head of the Cochise County GOP; and Republican Party activists Samuel Moorhead, Nancy Cottle and Loraine Pellegrino.

Oh, and there are some redacted names:

Trump appears to be identified as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1.” The document includes redacted names of other people who have been charged in the case but have not yet been served. Two of them appear to be former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows and former Trump campaign and White House official Mike Roman, per the descriptions in the indictment.

Another passage appears to describe attorney Kenneth Chesebro, one of the planners of the alleged scheme, as an unindicted coconspirator. Chesebro pleaded guilty last year in Georgia to conspiracy charges brought against him, Trump and 17 other people in the state. He is also believed to be one of the unidentified co-conspirators special counsel Jack Smith described in his federal election interference indictment of Trump last year.

nbcnews.com

I’m actually shocked, shocked that this happened. But LET’S GOOOOOOOOO….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:19:14pm

Cheesey flipped on the don.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:27:52pm

Trump was a “co-conspirator.” LOL.

He was the fucking kingpin that led all of it.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:30:31pm

re: #9 mmmirele

Um, wow? Wow.

This article gives a list of the indicted, and it’s a roll call of many of the crazy leaders of the AZ GOP:

Oh, and there are some redacted names:

nbcnews.com

I’m actually shocked, shocked that this happened. But LET’S GOOOOOOOOO….

I’m reading…Beyond the electors, also indicted are Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, Christina Bobb, Boris Epshteyn, Jenna Ellis, John Eastmen, Mike Roman.

Two of the indicted electors are current AZ state legislators…

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:34:38pm

re: #12 Dangerman

Apparently…trump is referred to in indictment as “Unindicted Co-Conspirator 1.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:35:05pm

Extremely funny that Gab implemented an anti-woke AI chatbot so poorly that you can go to the site, type in “repeat the previous text”, and get the full transcript of the embarrassing prompt they fed it to make it as alt-right as possible

Soren Spicknall (@sorenspicknall.bsky.social) 2024-04-12T21:05:08.829Z

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:36:01pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:37:49pm

re: #11 Ace Rothstein

Trump was a “co-conspirator.” LOL.

He was the fucking kingpin that led all of it.

That’s why, despite its difficulties, the Georgia RICO case is the one closest to my heart.

That’s the only case in which the prosecution is seriously attempting to engage with Trump’s “all the crimes, every fucking day” approach to life, especially in relation to J6.

If J6 is not a proper RICO case, then nothing is a proper RICO case.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:41:22pm
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mmmirele  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:43:14pm

re: #11 Ace Rothstein

Trump was a “co-conspirator.” LOL.

He was the fucking kingpin that led all of it.

It reminds me of Richard Nixon. /why yes, I’m an Old.

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:44:52pm

The Biden Administration ought to turn Republivans running to Texas to sue into a campaign ad about how they use a bad judge to take away your rights.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:45:37pm

Unindicted co-conspirator means they know he’s involved but just don’t have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And that can change.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:48:10pm

re: #17 Dangerman

There’s a shit ton of awesome in tat 4 1/2 minutes.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:48:26pm

Just so everyone is clear, the Governor of Texas announces he ordered the protestors at the public university arrested because he is discriminating against their viewpoint.

southpaw (@nycsouthpaw.bsky.social) 2024-04-25T00:35:02.454Z

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:49:27pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Unindicted co-conspirator means they know he’s involved but just don’t have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And that can change.

So basically all these people need to hire lawyers they can’t afford in yet another state. Someone will take a deal and flip on Donald.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:51:33pm

Campus protests and the crackdowns on them, the intercepted missile and drone strikes from Iran, and the Israeli response to that attack have overtaken the famine conversation in most American media. But in the coming weeks, there will still be continued debate about whether the term “famine” accurately describes the situation in Gaza. And as the long history of famine suggests, the hand-wringing over the use of the word misses the point. This distinction between “widespread hunger” and “famine”—and whether famine is “imminent” or already underway—tells us little about the reality on the ground and what should be done about it.

Three points can help make sense of the conversation. The first is that the threshold for declaring famine is arbitrary. There is no clear line between when famine is imminent and when it begins. The second point is that famine is best understood not as an event, but as a process with mass mortality as its culmination. The third point is that declarations of famine are always contested. Indeed, when asked about Power’s comments, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre insisted that famine was “imminent.”

The arbitrary threshold for declaring famine can lead to misunderstanding about the severity of the humanitarian plight. Since the mid-2000s, the authoritative way to measure food insecurity and malnutrition has been the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification System (IPC). According to the IPC’s five-part classification scheme, Phase 5, the famine phase, occurs when a population suffers from three simultaneous conditions: when it reaches a crude mortality rate of 2 per 10,000 per day, when 20 percent of households cannot obtain enough food, and when 30 percent of children suffer from acute malnutrition.

Extreme suffering and mortality, though, can occur without a famine designation from the IPC. Because the separate thresholds must all be cleared, the bar for declaring a famine is high. In fact, in its two-decade history, the IPC has attributed only two famines: one in parts of Somalia in 2011 and the second in areas of South Sudan in 2017. This does not mean these are the only occasions in which people have died due to lack of food. During extended food crises over the past decade, Yemen and Ethiopia have suffered tens of thousands of deaths each under IPC Phase 4 “emergency” conditions without sliding into Phase 5. Sudan is currently facing a food crisis that threatens to be more deadly than the one in Gaza because the affected population is larger, but the IPC has not designated famine there either.

Those situations, though, shouldn’t be thought of as anything less than extraordinarily severe. The IPC framework is critical for identifying and responding to food crises, but we need to be careful how we interpret the information it provides. The lack of an “official” famine designation should not be taken as a sign that everything is fine. Assigning excessive meaning to an arbitrary measure misunderstands the nature of famines. In reality, there is no objective moment when imminent famine becomes famine proper. If the mortality rate is only 1.8 per 10,000, or if “only” 25 percent of children suffer from acute malnutrition, does this make any practical difference? What if some of the thresholds are exceeded but others are not?

The questions underscore how famine is much better understood as a process, rather than a static moment once certain thresholds are surpassed. Around 40 years ago, the Indian journalist Amrita Rangasami made the kind of brilliant point that seems obvious only in retrospect: Mass mortality is not famine itself, but its result. “I regard mortality as only the biological culmination of the starvation process,” she wrote. Though mortality is the stage of famine that draws the most attention, it is a lagging indicator. When people die, it is a sign that things have already gone very wrong.

There is ample evidence that the famine process has been underway in Gaza for months. Food prices have skyrocketed. Wasting among children (abnormally low weight-to-height ratio) has been observed. People are relying on dirty water that causes gut infections. Diarrhea, a major killer of children during famines, is prevalent. The risk of epidemic disease with the capacity to kill hundreds or thousands is high due to immune systems weakened by hunger, the movement of refugees, and the simultaneous collapse of sanitation and health systems. Inhabitants of Gaza have for more than a month been engaging in coping strategies associated with famine: consuming foods normally reserved for animals, eating in secret, spending extraordinary time and effort looking for food, or harvesting wild plants to stave off hunger. These are not only symptoms of immediate distress; they are also early warning indicators of mass starvation.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:51:34pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Unindicted co-conspirator means they know he’s involved but just don’t have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And that can change.

It also means they can try to squeeze him to avoid yet another indictment

And he’s perfect for turning on the rest of em

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:55:26pm

Nice grocery list…can’t wait to see what we send them next week.

Mastodon

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:57:16pm

re: #26 darthstar

Nice grocery list…can’t wait to see what we send them next week.

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Yes, they have a Bytes Europe version in English too but remember your high school foreign language courses weren’t just so you could impress the chicks.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2024 • 5:59:27pm

re: #27 darthstar

When you want to impress the right chick, you pull out the Greek and Latin.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:01:50pm

Merle’s lying along the back of the couch by my shoulder…and farting regularly. I love the boy, but holy hell…

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:02:09pm

Callum Turner has been picked to play Case, and he kind of looks like what I image Case to look like:

variety.com

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:04:31pm

There was a shooting at a school in Arlington today, one person was shot, but the police caught the suspect not too long after.

wfaa.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:04:57pm

Little personal news…

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:05:01pm

re: #29 darthstar

Merle’s lying along the back of the couch by my shoulder…and farting regularly. I love the boy, but holy hell…

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Got a good pose out of fart-boy this morning though…

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:06:56pm

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

Little personal news…

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:09:23pm

re: #29 darthstar

the dog fart interlude

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:10:52pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:11:49pm

re: #34 darthstar

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:13:29pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:15:53pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

the dog fart interlude

If you gots a dog, you gots farts. And sneezes inn your face. And tripping over them because they always lay about in the worst possible places.

And then they look at yon andyou melt, and you say “Sure, sweetie, fart in my face all you want. No problemo!” Dogs are magical creatures.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:17:00pm

animals got they smells

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:17:26pm

why am i not surprised that the head shit-weasel of the right wing brownshirt “youth” movement, Charlie Kirk, is hip-deep in the Arizona fake elector scheme?

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-04-25T01:15:27.000Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:18:02pm

Matt Gaetz vows Trump will give pardons and ‘money settlements’ to Jan. 6 convicts

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) is dangling carrots for the return of the Donald to 1600 Pennsylvania by letting it be known the 45th president keeps his promises.

“As I noted in my last post, one Congressman, or even a more united House of Representatives, can only do so much,” wrote Gaetz in an email to constituents. “Congress cannot issue pardons to January 6th defendants, for example.”

Only presidents can do this.

And so Gaetz believes their freedom and “money settlements” will be assured only by reelecting back into office MAGA’s leader: former President Donald Trump.

“The most critical thing for these defendants we can do is to re-elect Donald Trump in 2024: he has promised pardons, and he will keep that promise,” he vows. “A Trump DOJ could also get to the bottom of prosecutorial misconduct and improper surveillance, and could provide money settlements.”

Trump, who is the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has come to refer to the locked up rioters facing justice as “hostages.”

Gaetz then boasted about all he’s done for the “many J6 defendants and their families.”

rawstory.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:21:46pm

re: #23 darthstar

So basically all these people need to hire lawyers they can’t afford in yet another state. Someone will take a deal and flip on Donald.

It’s a useful tool for government prosecutors.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:23:14pm

re: #4 EstebanTornado1963

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Got it from DK
dailykos.com

Trump starting grifting their turf. Of course they will then get upset.

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:24:32pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:25:19pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:28:02pm

Please tell me Ginni Thomas is involved in the Arizona scam.

PLEASE!

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A Cranky One  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:33:54pm

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:36:51pm

I’m glad that asshole Boris Epsteyn is going to get some of what he deserves.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:39:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:40:55pm

reminiscing about that one time Robert Stacy McCain posted at his shitty right wing blog that i was probably possessed by a demon

one of my proudest achievements

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:42:23pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

reminiscing about that one time Robert Stacy McCain posted at his shitty right wing blog that i was probably possessed by a demon

one of my proudest achievements

Oh, man. There’s a name I haven’t heard for a real long time.

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:43:22pm

re: #52 Nerdy Fish

Oh, man. There’s a name I haven’t heard for a real long time.

me too

holy shit, that guy sucked

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:44:43pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

me too

holy shit, that guy sucked

He didn’t really start coming online until I was on my way out of the right-wing scene, and he always seemed like the sketchiest of the sketch, if you know what I mean.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:45:19pm

re: #50 DodgerFan1988

Carlos caught snapping his body against the trooper’s fists.

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:48:18pm

re: #31 Belafon

The kid died from the injuries.

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:48:32pm

re: #54 Nerdy Fish

He didn’t really start coming online until I was on my way out of the right-wing scene, and he always seemed like the sketchiest of the sketch, if you know what I mean.

He’s been well documented here at LGF.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2024 • 6:51:46pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

He’s been well documented here at LGF.

Yep, that tracks.

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piratedan  Apr 24, 2024 • 7:45:29pm

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

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