Horror/Comedy Short Film From the Netherlands: "Shiny New World"

Horror/Comedy Short Film From the Netherlands: “Shiny New World”

At Shiny New World, we don’t like unwanted touching

I should warn y’all that even though the overall tone of this film is funny, there’s some violent imagery you may find disturbing. Just telllng you up front.

Fifty-year-old Barry is a special kind of cleaner: he cleans crime scenes where demons have wreaked havoc. While making a corporate film about his work, a normal working day for Barry gets out of hand in a bloody way.

Connect with the Filmmakers:
https://www.shinynewworld.com
https://www.instagram.com/shinynewworld/
https://www.instagram.com/makewayfilm/
https://www.makewayfilm.com/films/shiny-new-world/

“Shiny New World” Credits:
Barry: Patrick Stoof
Narrator: Gijs Scholten van Aschat
Bart: Maarten Prins
Helena: Marije Loermans

Teenagers:
Adelaide Kashari
Shirley Bak
Tum Bemelmans
Dean Gulikers

Director and Writer: Jan van Gorkum
Producers: Monique van Kessel, Make Way Film
Co-Producer: Jan van Gorkum
Associate Producer: Jan Doense

Directors of Photography: Luuk de Kok & Jan Veldhuizen
Production Designer: Sanne Croonenberg
Costume Designer: Esther Datema
Gaffer: Roel Ypma
Sound Recordist: Mark Thur
Make-up Artist: Lona Cerutti

Assistant Directors: Marnix van Wijk, Corien van der Zwaag & Jennifer Eikelenboom
Assistant Camera: Jason Hornung
Best Boy: Leijo Van Aubel
Production Assistants: Jennifer Eikelenboom, Fauve de Ruiter & Laila Fantozzi
Location Manager Limburg: Yorn Heijnen
Gore Designers on set: Joost Kraan & Pim Kraan
Art Assistant on set: Demi Andriessen
Art Assistants pre-production: Daphne Themen, Anneke Kortleve, Thomas van den Berg & Pim Sollie
Set Builders: Patrick van Kessel & Michel van Kessel
Assistant Set Builder: Rodrigo Cardoso
Set Photographer: Julia Gat
Special Make-up Effects by: Mad Scientists Movement
SFX Supervisors: Richard Raaphorst & Evert Josemanders
SFX Make-up Artist: Stephan Vos
SFX Assistants: Sharon de Ruijsscher, Merel van der Lande, Eron Sheean, Chris Vos & Patrick Heus
Editor: Kees Riphagen
Color Grader: Maurice Leentvaar
Music: The Fast and the Curious
Sound Designer: Bashel de Vries
Re-recording Mixer: Jaap Wajer
Voice-over Recordist: Jaap Wajer
Poster Designer: Zakaria Marghich
Visual Effects by: Brandspanking
Visual Effects Supervisor: Jos Wabeke
VFX Assistants: Bastiaan Poutsma & Luke Pompe
Produced with the support of:
Provincie Limburg
Gemeente Rotterdam
NORMA Fonds
Netherlands Film Fund
Our crowdfunding supporters

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Targetpractice May 4, 2024 • 9:50:21pm

re: #127 silverdolphin

Newly revealed detail makes Trump aide’s testimony ‘even more incriminating’ than reported

He specifically asked Hope after the election what she thought about the Stormy Daniels case if the information had come out before the election because Cohen had not made the payment. And that in his opinion is was better for it to come out before the election.

This is devastating to any defense that he was worried about Melania. He only cared about the eleection and was hapy that his money had been used to keep it delayed.

If you could honestly buy that a man who has married and then cheated on three different women and been accused by dozens more of sexual harassment/assault over 30+ years was so distraught over his third wife finding out that he’d cheated on her that he’d pay six figures to cover it up…then I got some oceanfront property in Nevada for sale cheap.

Patricia Kayden May 4, 2024 • 10:09:02pm

Romantic Heretic May 4, 2024 • 10:09:04pm

Regarding Shiny New World.

That was rather funny. Can I get a job there?

goddamnedfrank May 4, 2024 • 10:12:14pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’ll have to ask my other coworker who worked yesterday if she knows anything about this since the wifi went down during her shift. And let management know about this so they can follow up.

*sigh* And it was an otherwise stress-free night up to that point.

I know this is the kind of comment that management loves but someone should mention that connecting mission critical systems via wifi in a high traffic environment is a choice.

William Lewis May 4, 2024 • 10:22:55pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

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Could have used that one earlier today. Saving it for next time.

Targetpractice May 4, 2024 • 10:29:21pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I know this is the kind of comment that management loves but someone should mention that connecting mission critical systems via wifi in a high traffic environment is a choice.

A big part of the problem is not so much the wifi as it is a lack of proper training. I’ve told multiple people at the front desk now that if the wifi goes down for front desk but the rest of the property is still live that they simply need to reset the wifi hotspot at the desk and then wait for it to come back. But instead, every time I’m out of the office and it happens, they default to calling the help line for the property management system whose techs are of no help because it’s not a software issue it’s a hardware issue and the hardware belongs to the wifi company.

Targetpractice May 4, 2024 • 11:51:50pm

It feels like we’re now at a stage where the longer Sunak waits to call the election, the worse the result will be. He already looks incredibly weak, he’ll quickly start to look a pathetic coward

— Will (@teletextpage152.bsky.social) 2024-05-04T20:19:45.109Z

I just heard a Sky commentator discussing this and she said Sunak is “ literally squatting at Number 10” . 🤭🤭🤭Thank you for your coverage of elections!

— Writer, Master Gardener, Genealogist-lover of Scandi Noir films (@lhlawson.bsky.social) 2024-05-04T22:10:49.531Z

So yeah, the Tories have now lost all but one of the mayoral elections, the one they kept was because their incumbent there ran away from the party leadership, and they lost so many council seats that they have actually fallen to second behind the Lib Dems in total number of council seats. Yet Sunak went out to that one city where the Tories retained a mayor and gave a speech about how the overall results were disappointing but “the plan is working” and the one mayoral win means the party can still win the general election.

Prime Minister’s Questions this Wednesday are gonna be an absolute hoot.

Dr Lizardo May 4, 2024 • 11:57:26pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Sunak and the Tories know they’re screwed six ways from Sunday. They’re staring down the barrel of an electoral massacre.

piratedan May 5, 2024 • 12:05:53am

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

to be fair, they’ve invoked the Dildo of Consequences and it rarely arrives lubed.

With their lies about Brexit, their behavior during COVID and now their blatant racism and clusterfuck policy implementation in following the GOP example of crafting their darkest desires into Law and taking away both British respect at home and abroad by sleeping with Russian money.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 12:12:46am

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

Sunak and the Tories know they’re screwed six ways from Sunday. They’re staring down the barrel of an electoral massacre.

There’s two schools of thought right now why they’re dragging out elections until fall at the earliest. The first is that they’re gambling on some “miracle” to help them narrow the polling gap and once they see that happening will pull the trigger on elections and hope that they can keep enough seats to retain a narrow majority. The second is a bit more obvious: They just want to drag things out as long as they can to keep their government expense accounts.

William Lewis May 5, 2024 • 12:23:45am

re: #10 Targetpractice

There’s two schools of thought right now why they’re dragging out elections until fall at the earliest. The first is that they’re gambling on some “miracle” to help them narrow the polling gap and once they see that happening will pull the trigger on elections and hope that they can keep enough seats to retain a narrow majority. The second is a bit more obvious: They just want to drag things out as long as they can to keep their government expense accounts.

It’s the latter because they know they have no hope of actually keeping their jobs.

silverdolphin May 5, 2024 • 12:23:56am

America Has Finally Found Effective Leverage on Israel - and Netanyahu

Good for Dark Brandon.

A Cranky One May 5, 2024 • 12:27:32am

Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 12:31:46am

re: #10 Targetpractice

There’s two schools of thought right now why they’re dragging out elections until fall at the earliest. The first is that they’re gambling on some “miracle” to help them narrow the polling gap and once they see that happening will pull the trigger on elections and hope that they can keep enough seats to retain a narrow majority. The second is a bit more obvious: They just want to drag things out as long as they can to keep their government expense accounts.

It’s the second reason, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re holding out some flagging hope for a miracle.

No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 12:39:47am

Grizzly Bear cub busts some moves.

No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 12:41:51am

The fake news media is to blame for Noem publicizing her callous shooting of Cricket and a goat.

Captain Ron May 5, 2024 • 12:57:25am

I have questions.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 1:00:55am

re: #16 No Malarkey!

The fake news media is to blame for Noem publicizing her callous shooting of Cricket and a goat.

Repub party politics in a nutshell. She can’t lie and say the story never happened now that she’s spent days doubling down, she can’t accuse the media of taking it “out of context” because she’s insisted the context is how “tough” she is, and she can’t offer any sort of apology or try express remorse for her actions because then she’ll be branded as “weak.” So her only option is to play the victim and hope that she can gain sympathy points.

Captain Ron May 5, 2024 • 1:06:23am

re: #17 Captain Ron

Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 1:07:23am

Elmo keeps on fucking up….🤡

French-language RTS said that since X was taken over by billionaire Elon Musk in 2022 it no longer corresponded to the company’s journalistic values.

“Dialogue with our followers is no longer possible [on X], because they are being held hostage by trolls and bots and subjected to hate campaigns and defamation,” RTS spokesman Marco Ferrara told the Swiss News Agency Keystone-ATS on Friday.

The withdrawal is scheduled to take place over the next few months. RTS currently manages around 15 accounts on the platform. “We will maintain a presence with the @RadioTeleSuisse corporate account to keep an eye on things and be able to intervene, for example in the event of our identity being stolen,” he added.

swissinfo.ch

William Lewis May 5, 2024 • 1:13:48am

I hate entitled wedding drunks…

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 1:25:59am

re: #16 No Malarkey!

The fake news media is to blame for Noem publicizing her callous shooting of Cricket and a goat.

I also love how they not only describe Kristi “Killing Puppies Gives Me Wood” Noem’s presence there as an obvious play at the VP spot, but also point out that J.D. “For Sale To Highest Bidder” Vance, Marco “Sold My Dignity For a Bible Verse” Rubio, and Tim “Did I Mention I’m Black?” Scott were also in attendance for the same reason.

Lancelot Link Returns! May 5, 2024 • 1:32:14am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Pretty soon she’ll be sending herself fake threats

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 1:32:36am

re: #21 William Lewis

I hate entitled wedding drunks…

One of the upsides to working at a tenement building masquerading as a hotel is that we have no meeting rooms, conferences rooms, or communal spaces of any kind big enough to host events. We do have the patio outside, but it’s barely big enough for a child’s birthday party and that’s assuming most of the guests are content to stand. We’re also far enough away from the Oceanfront that most wedding planners wouldn’t even bother offering us as space to house wedding guests unless they’d booked out every other hotel in town first.

No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 1:44:09am

re: #22 Targetpractice

I also love how they not only describe Kristi “Killing Puppies Gives Me Wood” Noem’s presence there as an obvious play at the VP spot, but also point out that J.D. “For Sale To Highest Bidder” Vance, Marco “Sold My Dignity For a Bible Verse” Rubio, and Tim “Did I Mention I’m Black?” Scott were also in attendance for the same reason.

I expect Trump to select Tim Scott, because that is exactly the kind of DEI hire Trump is currently attacking.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 1:57:13am

re: #25 No Malarkey!

I expect Trump to select Tim Scott, because that is exactly the kind of DEI hire Trump is currently attacking.

Only real reason I could see for Trump picking Scott is he and the party are deluded enough to believe that they can win the minority vote from the Dems.

The biggest downside? The moment he picks Scott, the media’s focus will shift to their new toy and all the talk will be about Scott and open speculation that he could end up the GQP candidate if “something” were to happen to Trump.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 2:30:08am

Huh, that had never occurred to me…

It occurs to me that I’ve seen plenty of Truth Social screenshots of Trump posts and literally not a single screenshot of any other person’s post

— Dave Levitan (@davelevitan.bsky.social) 2024-05-03T23:46:49.870Z

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 2:32:41am

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

It’s the second reason, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re holding out some flagging hope for a miracle.

Or that people will grow distracted and forgetful and go back to voting Tory out of Force of Habit..

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 2:34:40am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Repub party politics in a nutshell. She can’t lie and say the story never happened now that she’s spent days doubling down, she can’t accuse the media of taking it “out of context” because she’s insisted the context is how “tough” she is, and she can’t offer any sort of apology or try express remorse for her actions because then she’ll be branded as “weak.” So her only option is to play the victim and hope that she can gain sympathy points.

Shooting a defeseless animal (or two) is not being “tough”: it is being callous and inhumane, which is how most of the GOP see and define “tough”.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 2:43:09am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Shooting a defeseless animal (or two) is not being “tough”: it is being callous and inhumane, which is how most of the GOP see and define “tough”.

It’s a continuation of that Reagan-era BS that Repubs are the people you want leading because they’re “strong enough to make the tough choices.” The intention was (of course) to present shooting a puppy as a “tough choice” because while most people would shy away she did it because it was “dangerous” to humans and livestock alike.

Her mistake was forgetting that people other than Trump sycophants could read her book and realize how much of a psychopath she really is.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 2:48:47am

re: #30 Targetpractice

It’s a continuation of that Reagan-era BS that Repubs are the people you want leading because they’re “strong enough to make the tough choices.”

They want the least expensive choice, like declaring ketchup to be a vegetable so you can cut school lunch funding.

If we are on a battlefield and pinned down by enemy fire, then I want to be able to turn to a leader who is ready to make the tough choices. But in normal life, I want someone who prefers humane and non-theological/ideological choices.

Nojay UK May 5, 2024 • 2:51:07am

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

It’s the second reason, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re holding out some flagging hope for a miracle.

A short victorious war against, say, the EU might work. They’ve tried it with disabled people and poor people, they’ve tried it with non-Southerners and the Irish, the Russians are their friends but nobody likes the EU.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 2:56:51am

re: #32 Nojay UK

A short victorious war against, say, the EU might work. They’ve tried it with disabled people and poor people, they’ve tried it with non-Southerners and the Irish, the Russians are their friends but nobody likes the EU.

And leave it to Labour to say or do something scandalous/offensive that will cost them a lot of votes.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 2:57:49am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want the least expensive choice, like declaring ketchup to be a vegetable so you can cut school lunch funding.

If we are on a battlefield and pinned down by enemy fire, then I want to be able to turn to a leader who is ready to make the tough choices. But in normal life, I want someone who prefers humane and non-theological/ideological choices.

That’s the reality. The spin is always BS so thick and creamy you can spread it like butter. Like saying that being “tough” means ignoring “special interests,” if only because they’re so larded up with bank and business donations that they have no room left in their pockets. Or “cutting fat” from the budget because they need that money for another set of tax cuts. Or (as it was understood in the Reagan years) the willingness to “push the button” and plunge the world into nuclear war when the only wars they really got America involved in were to enrich their buddies in the MIC.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 3:01:35am

re: #34 Targetpractice

I agreed with Ronald Reagan that you cannot solve social problems by simply throwing money at them. And I agreed that the best social program you can offer someone is a job. But not just any job: a well paid one with benefits.

Then he cut government funding for job training .

And when it came to the military, there was no problem, real or contrived, that could not be solved by throwing more money at it (except pay and benefits for military personnel)

Eventual Carrion May 5, 2024 • 3:11:57am

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 3:14:43am

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 3:16:55am

re: #27 Targetpractice

Huh, that had never occurred to me…

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He’s the only person on that platform anyone pays attention to. The rest are ignorant bigots and wannabe Nazis…so is he for that matter.

Nojay UK May 5, 2024 • 3:27:56am

re: #37 darthstar

The person’s shadow is visible. Minus five points plus an obligatory Monty Python sketch reference.

How Not To Be Seen.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 3:53:10am

re: #39 Nojay UK

The person’s shadow is visible. Minus five points plus an obligatory Monty Python sketch reference.

How Not To Be Seen.

The smart person would have diffuse beam flashlight to obliterate the shadow.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 3:54:05am

re: #39 Nojay UK

The person’s shadow is visible. Minus five points plus an obligatory Monty Python sketch reference.

How Not To Be Seen.

It works well enough that most of us would miss it with a passing glance. Like a person driving by might miss the difference in the lighting, the muted colors, the slight variation in the lines of the fencing, and so forth. But unless someone explicitly pointed it out to you, your brain would likely follow its programming and just paper over that one block that wasn’t quite right so that all you saw in mind’s eye was a continuous fence.

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ May 5, 2024 • 4:08:36am

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Patricia Kayden May 5, 2024 • 4:08:41am

Lots of Kent State news popping up and I’m worried some people might not remember that about a week later, Miss. police fired guns indiscriminately into a Jackson State dormitory, murdering two students and injuring 11 others. It was overshadowed by Kent b/c Jackson was a Black research university.

— Dell Cameron {Verified} (@dell.bsky.social) 2024-05-04T23:47:24.881Z

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 4:10:00am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

BLATI = Black Lives are Totally Irrelevant

Nojay UK May 5, 2024 • 4:13:10am

re: #41 Targetpractice

It works well enough that most of us would miss it with a passing glance. Like a person driving by might miss the difference in the lighting, the muted colors, the slight variation in the lines of the fencing, and so forth.

As they say in the tech industry, “There are lies, damned lies and rigged demos.”

Show me this screen operating in different locations like a busy street with moving traffic and people or in front of foliage and non-structured backgrounds and maybe it’s worth consideration. The image shown as an example looks to be a cherry-picked situation that sells the idea best (strong regular horizontal structures in the fence) in perfect lighting conditions. Throw in some rain, maybe cloudy diffuse lighting or dusk and maybe it doesn’t work quite as well. Maybe.

Patricia Kayden May 5, 2024 • 4:17:05am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wasn’t Ronald the dude who popularized that “trickle down” nonsense? Giving tax cuts to the mega wealthy hasn’t resulted in anything trickling down to the middle and working classes — ever.

And while I agree that throwing $$$ at poor people isn’t particularly helpful, what President Clinton did by tying training programs to welfare reform was the sensible approach and appears to have worked to a certain degree.
centreforpublicimpact.org

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ May 5, 2024 • 4:23:04am

I see no lies

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus May 5, 2024 • 4:27:04am

Repost from earlier:

The World War Two channel uploaded its weekly video today, a momentous week in WWII.

Indy makes a strong summary for why it is so important to learn these lessons. I started the video at the summary section:

Week 297 - Allied Victory in Berlin, Italy, and Burma! - WW2 - May 4, 1945

..

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus May 5, 2024 • 4:35:35am

So the NightCafe contest on Friday was “Rainy Day Scenes”, and here is the winner:

Nightcafe challenge winner for Rainy Day Scene

It won, pretty clearly, by playing the sympathy card. Yet it still suffers from the usual generative AI problems:
1) the dog has polydactyly;
2) the guys hands merge with the dog’s ears. We can imagine he is just scratching behind the dog’s ears, but still, there are clearly problems with the wrists.
3) the text in the image is gibberish.

But I guess it makes people feel better to express sympathy for some homeless guy.

A made-up, fictional, homeless guy.

Anyway, here was my submission:

Nightcafe challenge my submission for Rainy Day Scene

Yeah, yeah, I know…. but I wanted to see how it would score.

Now I know.

My point: being a softy for some (highly flawed) image of a homeless guy is no more really being compassionate to the homeless, than fantasizing over a sex-bomb is having a real lover.

Randall Gross May 5, 2024 • 4:38:12am

Microsoft to lock down DNS like never before. ZTDNS explained by Dan Goodin at ARS
arstechnica.com/security/202…

— Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-05T11:35:21.302Z

Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 4:48:56am

re: #16 No Malarkey!

The fake news media is to blame for Noem publicizing her callous shooting of Cricket and a goat.

It’s infuriating really.

“Listen, going through hard things, and I’ve been through a few of them — I’m going through one right now, I mean they’re just attacking me like crazy right now,” Noem said, according to an audio recording obtained by POLITICO. “But listen, that’s a good thing. It’s a good thing because it makes you stronger, and it teaches you really what you’re up against, and it makes you recognize how much they lie, how much they will twist, how much they will manipulate. And you just have to be strong and be happy warriors.”

Earlier in the speech, Noem said the Republican Party was “in a war” with the media and Democrats who “don’t care about the truth.”

Piss off, psycho bitch.

Dave In Austin May 5, 2024 • 4:49:12am

Morning all…….

Be careful out there.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 4:49:39am

re: #45 Nojay UK

As they say in the tech industry, “There are lies, damned lies and rigged demos.”

Show me this screen operating in different locations like a busy street with moving traffic and people or in front of foliage and non-structured backgrounds and maybe it’s worth consideration. The image shown as an example looks to be a cherry-picked situation that sells the idea best (strong regular horizontal structures in the fence) in perfect lighting conditions. Throw in some rain, maybe cloudy diffuse lighting or dusk and maybe it doesn’t work quite as well. Maybe.

Point taken.

Targetpractice May 5, 2024 • 4:55:15am

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

Wasn’t Ronald the dude who popularized that “trickle down” nonsense? Giving tax cuts to the mega wealthy hasn’t resulted in anything trickling down to the middle and working classes — ever.

And while I agree that throwing $$$ at poor people isn’t particularly helpful, what President Clinton did by tying training programs to welfare reform was the sensible approach and appears to have worked to a certain degree.
centreforpublicimpact.org

He did indeed, alongside “supply side economics.” When he was running against Reagan for the nomination, Bush Sr dubbed it “voodoo economics.” Of course he suddenly became a believer when he was picked for the vice presidency and continued with it into his own administration.

Of course, the reality is that they called it “trickle down” because they didn’t want to admit that they were pissing on our heads and calling it “rain.”

Randall Gross May 5, 2024 • 4:55:31am

re: #52 Dave In Austin

Morning all…….

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Be careful out there.

Gm, Had to think about that a minute because I’m still making the coffee…

Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 4:56:21am

re: #38 darthstar

He’s the only person on that platform anyone pays attention to. The rest are ignorant bigots and wannabe Nazis…so is he for that matter.

Truth Social exists for two reasons; so they can adulate and trump can suck up that adulation, and so he can get his lies out and, until the court slapped him around, those lies could and have been literally anything that popped into his addled mind.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus May 5, 2024 • 4:58:11am

Young winner of a Polish music contest:

Werner Richter – Watercolors, Ksawery Widuch – accordion

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He picked a rather esoteric piece of music for someone so young.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus May 5, 2024 • 4:59:22am

Bye Bye Blackbird - Stringspace

Randall Gross May 5, 2024 • 5:04:26am

Objectified Musicians

The Objectified Musicians Collection

sagehen May 5, 2024 • 5:15:45am

re: #54 Targetpractice

He did indeed, alongside “supply side economics.” When he was running against Reagan for the nomination, Bush Sr dubbed it “voodoo economics.” Of course he suddenly became a believer when he was picked for the vice presidency and continued with it into his own administration.

He didn’t become a believer, he just shut up about it. And in his own administration, he raised taxes. Which cost him all the support of his party, even though it was necessary.

Which was an act of political courage, that he put doing the right thing ahead of his own job security. But my affection of him is based entirely on foreign policy. I shudder to think how a less experienced, less agile, less work-behind-the-scenes-no-need-for-public-credit president would have handled the breakup of the Soviet Union and the formation of a. dozen new democracies in Europe. And maneuvering to make sure Germany got reunified, against Thatcher’s vehement objections.

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Markm1960 May 5, 2024 • 5:23:54am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Repub party politics in a nutshell. She can’t lie and say the story never happened now that she’s spent days doubling down, she can’t accuse the media of taking it “out of context” because she’s insisted the context is how “tough” she is, and she can’t offer any sort of apology or try express remorse for her actions because then she’ll be branded as “weak.” So her only option is to play the victim and hope that she can gain sympathy points.

It wasn’t a tough choice it was the wrong choice. Out of all the potential options available to her she chose the worst option. She tries to present it as the only option available to her as if every other possible choice was worse. But she’s wrong and thinks it makes her look tough. Nope, it makes her look cruel and stupid.

Edit: I don’t believe she mentions contemplating any other choices. That shows she had tunnel vision, which is a terrible trait for a leader.

Randall Gross May 5, 2024 • 5:28:19am

Fox Host thinks Pelosi needing the Hammer is humor
www.mediamatters.org/pete-hegseth…

— Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-05T12:23:32.178Z

Belafon May 5, 2024 • 5:30:51am

re: #45 Nojay UK

As they say in the tech industry, “There are lies, damned lies and rigged demos.”

Show me this screen operating in different locations like a busy street with moving traffic and people or in front of foliage and non-structured backgrounds and maybe it’s worth consideration. The image shown as an example looks to be a cherry-picked situation that sells the idea best (strong regular horizontal structures in the fence) in perfect lighting conditions. Throw in some rain, maybe cloudy diffuse lighting or dusk and maybe it doesn’t work quite as well. Maybe.

If they had rotated the setup π/2 radians, you wouldn’t have any proof a person was behind it. So, rather than it being a failure, it’s proof it works.

Not everything requires an argument.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 5:35:22am

re: #54 Targetpractice

He did indeed, alongside “supply side economics.”

It might have worked in the days of national economies and borders that restricted capital flow. But nowadays, capital seeks the highest rate of return and if that is to be found in other parts of the world with lower wages and much laxer regulations on pollution and worker safety, then that is where that capital is going to wind up.

Patricia Kayden May 5, 2024 • 5:42:21am

re: #51 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Shooting a puppy is the very definition of psycho. I hope this not only tanks her VP aspirations but also makes her political future in SD impossible. I assume that at least a handful of MAGAts like their dogs.

sagehen May 5, 2024 • 5:43:25am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It might have worked in the days of national economies and borders that restricted capital flow. But nowadays, capital seeks the highest rate of return and if that is to be found in other parts of the world with lower wages and much laxer regulations on pollution and worker safety, then that is where that capital is going to wind up.

Cutting taxes increased revenue once and only once. When the JFK admin dropped the top marginal tax rate from 90% to 70%.

People whose large income came in sporadic chunks (Vegas headliners, prizefighters) were motivated to work more. People whose large income was the continuing flow from grandpa’s work (Fords, Rockefellers) stopped putting as much into their tax-free foundations, since they could now take home 3x as much. And the “regular rich”, professionals and successful business owners, just had a lot more to spend on consumer goods. At a time when Europe and Asia still hadn’t finished rebuilding their WWII rubble, so consumer goods were all from American manufacturers. Who now needed to hire lots more workers and pay them well, and that expanded workforce were all taxpayers too.

Patricia Kayden May 5, 2024 • 5:45:55am

re: #62 Markm1960

Why did she kill the goat? That part of the story hurts her as well. Again, she’s a psycho. The SNL news skit with her “dog” Cricket #7 was spot on.

Weekend Update: Kristi Noem’s Other Dog Defends His Owner - SNL

Belafon May 5, 2024 • 5:48:10am

Went to go look at my email and I have 19 notices from Genghis Grill that my reward points are about to expire, all generated in the last three hours. I think they need to make a slight tweak to their algorithm.

Belafon May 5, 2024 • 5:50:18am

re: #69 Belafon

I just got another one so I looked at it, and it says I have two days left. I’m going to get a lot of emails from them.

darthstar May 5, 2024 • 5:52:33am

re: #63 Randall Gross

They are aware of what happened to her husband, no?

Dave In Austin May 5, 2024 • 5:56:50am

Mastodon

Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 5:57:06am

re: #71 darthstar

They are aware of what happened to her husband, no?

No, see, that’s why it’s funny, don’t you get it? Right-wing humor!

Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 5:59:15am

re: #61 Nerdy Fish

There we go.

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My guess #4? Not one but TWO letters reused in the same wrong place. Two. I’m a dumbass.

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Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 6:02:42am

re: #1 Targetpractice

If you could honestly buy that a man who has married and then cheated on three different women and been accused by dozens more of sexual harassment/assault over 30+ years was so distraught over his third wife finding out that he’d cheated on her that he’d pay six figures to cover it up…then I got some oceanfront property in Nevada for sale cheap.

reiterating from somewhere down below

it is reasonable to concluded Trump was concerned about Melania’s response if the Daniels/McDougal stories were to come out.

It is not (imo) reasonable to conclude that family was the only or the primary or even one of the primary driving reasons for this elaborately constructed scheme.

“I’m only concerned for my family finding out about my wretched and anti-familial behavior. Any other unintended consequences, like should the election get some monumental but totally accidental benefit, well, that’s good too”. No, that’s not reasonable.

Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 6:03:02am

So, if any Lizards are coming to Ostrava for the upcoming International Ice Hockey Championship, here’s a video:

OSTRAVA ULTIMATE GUIDE || THE BEST DOWNTOWN IN THE WORLD || ICE HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP

Belafon May 5, 2024 • 6:03:28am

I caught thus story just a bit ago about 9 year old Bodhana Sivanandan, who is a chess prodigy:

goodmorningamerica.com

Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 6:04:34am

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

Shooting a puppy is the very definition of psycho. I hope this not only tanks her VP aspirations but also makes her political future in SD impossible. I assume that at least a handful of MAGAts like their dogs.

More than a handful. Had she killed a liberal she’d have been Veep for sure. Or senator of her state. The goat alone? Meh. But a pup? Nope. That was her misstep. MAGAts do love their dogs. I mean not all, trump doesn’t, but I think he’s smart enough (?) to understand that many of his cultists do.

jeffreyw May 5, 2024 • 6:04:43am

Ollie is guarding catmint. Homer cares not, he has a secret patch of his own.

Good morning!

Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 6:06:38am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Repub party politics in a nutshell. She can’t lie and say the story never happened now that she’s spent days doubling down, she can’t accuse the media of taking it “out of context” because she’s insisted the context is how “tough” she is, and she can’t offer any sort of apology or try express remorse for her actions because then she’ll be branded as “weak.” So her only option is to play the victim and hope that she can gain sympathy points.

—————

“I mean they’re just attacking me like crazy right now.”

— Gov. Kristi Noem (R), quoted by Politico, saying the Republican Party was “in a war” with the media and Democrats who “don’t care about the truth.”

Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 6:06:45am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

Flake on a cake? 😂😂😂😂

Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 6:08:44am

re: #27 Targetpractice

Huh, that had never occurred to me…

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i read yesterday that tfg is the biggest (bigliest?) user of his failing boutique social media site

darthstar May 5, 2024 • 6:10:26am

Heard some bird racket outside my window before sun-up, and I got my Merlin app out and identified it…American Robin…loud motherfucker. Thanks to whoever introduced me to that app.

Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 6:10:26am

re: #82 Dangerman

i read yesterday that tfg is the biggest (bigliest?) user of his failing boutique social media site

I saw somewhere else a comment that ran along the lines of, “You don’t see screenshots of other users’ posts because they’re even more disgusting than Trump’s.”

Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 6:11:01am

re: #82 Dangerman

i read yesterday that tfg is the biggest (bigliest?) user of his failing boutique social media site

And I’m sure there’s definitely more than a few users who never post anything at all…they’re only looking to see what bullshit he’s spewing so they can have a good laugh.

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 5, 2024 • 6:11:55am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Idiot on butter, sugar, eggs, cream cheese, salt, vanilla extract, baking powder, flour, and milk at 350F in a greased bundt pan for about 55 minutes.

darthstar May 5, 2024 • 6:12:40am

re: #84 Nerdy Fish

I saw somewhere else a comment that ran along the lines of, “You don’t see screenshots of other users’ posts because they’re even more disgusting than Trump’s.”

If the media aired a few of the unfiltered posts it might do wonders for its stock value…as in people would wonder why it was ever above a penny.

Patricia Kayden May 5, 2024 • 6:14:07am

Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 6:15:19am

re: #87 darthstar

If the media aired a few of the unfiltered posts it might do wonders for its stock value…as in people would wonder why it was ever above a penny.

I mean, let’s face it, Trump is the only reason anyone goes on Twoof Social at all, because that’s the only place he puts his unhinged incoherent screeds. You can get all the other content on Xitter these days.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 May 5, 2024 • 6:20:20am

re: #84 Nerdy Fish

I saw somewhere else a comment that ran along the lines of, “You don’t see screenshots of other users’ posts because they’re even more disgusting than Trump’s.”

Whatever the reason, the trashy people who think supporting Trump elevates them are entirely mistaken in that belief. They’re not being heard. The old white guys who grunt and huff like a Hannity when in DEI training will continue to have a bad time at work. The misogynistic men who can’t get a date will continue to spend Saturday night alone, and fascist marchers will keep their masks on, because they’re still the ones who need to be afraid.

darthstar May 5, 2024 • 6:21:07am

Speaking of food…the missus bought a few beef ribs at Pacific Market in Sebastopol on the way up yesterday. Wrapped ‘em in foil at 275 for close to three hours then slathered some Rufus Teague on them and finished at 400 with some twice baked spuds from the same store (the whole store smells fantastic when you walk in) Did not suck.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 6:22:25am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

Who ya gonna call? Goat Dusters!!!

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 May 5, 2024 • 6:23:12am

re: #89 Nerdy Fish

I mean, let’s face it, Trump is the only reason anyone goes on Twoof Social at all, because that’s the only place he puts his unhinged incoherent screeds. You can get all the other content on Xitter these days.

Elon screwed Trump when he made Twitter a haven for bigoted people and their “content.”
I wish the wealthy weren’t fighting each other over who gets the attention of the shittiest people in America.

7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) May 5, 2024 • 6:23:44am

re: #83 darthstar

Heard some bird racket outside my window before sun-up, and I got my Merlin app out and identified it…American Robin…loud motherfucker. Thanks to whoever introduced me to that app.

I have only noticed in recent years how darned LOUD those robins are. I think probably because they tend not to make those sounds when you see them, on the ground hunting.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 May 5, 2024 • 6:32:19am

Trump’s bombardment of dishonesty: Fact-checking 32 of his false claims to Time
Former President Donald Trump delivered a bombardment of dishonesty in his interviews with Time magazine.

Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, made at least 32 false claims in the two April interviews that Time released this week. His serial inaccuracy spanned a wide range of subjects, including the economy, abortion, the NATO military alliance, the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, his legal cases, his record as president and the 2020 election he has relentlessly lied about for more than three years.

Time published its own fact check of some of the 32 claims on Tuesday, when it released its cover story on Trump. Here is an in-depth CNN debunking.

cnn.com

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 5, 2024 • 6:35:15am

Top Trump VP PICK Gets INSTANT Reality Check from FED UP Southerner

austin_blue May 5, 2024 • 6:36:11am

We got a little rain north of us last night west of Waco. Only 1.2” here in town.

The Brazos is gonna be roaring today.

radar.weather.gov

darthstar May 5, 2024 • 6:36:47am

re: #94 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I have only noticed in recent years how darned LOUD those robins are. I think probably because they tend not to make those sounds when you see them, on the ground hunting.

This one wasn’t super close to the window, but it was apparently the only bird on the river for a bit.

Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 6:37:51am

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jeffreyw May 5, 2024 • 6:46:04am

Mastodon

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No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 6:46:54am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And leave it to Labour to say or do something scandalous/offensive that will cost them a lot of votes.

Maybe Starmer will do the Tories a favor and write a book in which he relates his favorite puppy killing anecdote.

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Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 6:53:43am

re: #95 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

cnn.com

The guy is quite a liar. Almost every word.
But you know, let the voters figure it out

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austin_blue May 5, 2024 • 6:57:29am

re: #101 No Malarkey!

Maybe Starmer will do the Tories a favor and write a book in which he relates his favorite puppy killing anecdote.

At this point, I don’t think the Cons in the UK can be loathed any more than they are.

Any Own Goals by Labour will just off-load votes to the LibDems, not to the Cons.

It’s an advantage of a non-Binary political system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 6:57:43am

re: #101 No Malarkey!

Maybe Starmer will do the Tories a favor and write a book in which he relates his favorite puppy killing anecdote.

Jewish puppies.

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Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 7:00:21am

Charlie Spies, the Republican National Committee’s chief counsel, was pushed out of his new role just two months after taking the job, amid a storm of controversy over conflicts involving other clients at the firm where he still works,” the New York Times reports.

Yeah, that ain’t why

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 7:01:35am

ABC host confronts Tom Cotton after he says rioters were ‘just wandering’ on Jan 6.

Tom Cotton: Rioters ‘just wandered’ into the Capitol on Jan. 6

And that Nazi continues to lie any lie for his Führer!

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Dangerman May 5, 2024 • 7:05:13am

27. This scene is unreal.

Chimpanzee uses wildlife photographer JC Pieri’s hands to drink water and then washes them at the end as a thank you.

pic.twitter.com/rXB1QAhNqQ

— James Lucas (@JamesLucasIT) May 2, 2024

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 7:08:37am

re: #106 Joe Bacon ✅

ABC host confronts Tom Cotton after he says rioters were ‘just wandering’ on Jan 6.

In that case, protesters were “just wandering” around on campus at Charlottesville, Ann Arbor, Ole Miss, etc…

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 7:08:40am

Once again Poopy Pants says it’s all about the money!

Trump complained donors aren’t giving him enough cash to get a picture taken with him

At the same donor luncheon at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Saturday where Donald Trump swore at President Joe Biden, special counsel Jack Smith and attacked his other perceived foes, the former president also complained he wasn’t raising enough cash from the attending wealthy donors.

Buried deep in a Washington Post report of the former president’s profanity-laden speech where he ranted about Biden’s “Gestapo” and called the DOJ’s Smith a “f——-g a—hole,” is a note that the former was not happy about having to have his picture taken with so many attendees.

Add to that, he also let some of his guests know they weren’t coughing up enough cash.

According to the Post, “About 400 people who gave at least $40,000 each attended, according to people familiar with the planning who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private event. He spoke for about 90 minutes, and the remarks veered widely,” before pointing out Trump’s complaints.

“At another point, he complained about having to take so many pictures with donors and told people in the crowd that if they didn’t get a picture, it was because they didn’t give enough money,” the report continued. “He also claimed that a wedding at the property got preference over the donors because the wedding was paying more per person to be there.”

Trump also allowed some guests who donated a million to share the stage with him.

“At one point, as if he were at an auction, he told the crowd: ‘Anyone who makes a $1 million donation right now to the Republican Party … I will let you come up and speak.’

Now…WAIT FOR IT…

Two donors then came to the stage, and one told the crowd: ‘Donald J. Trump is the person that God has chosen,’” the report noted.

washingtonpost.com

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Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 7:14:07am

Bernard Hill has died at the age of 79. He was in Lord of the Rings as Theoden and played Captain Smith in Titanic.

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Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 7:15:23am

bbc.com

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Belafon May 5, 2024 • 7:19:29am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

Bernard Hill has died at the age of 79. He was in Lord of the Rings as Theoden and played Captain Smith in Titanic.

My wife read that he is the only actor to appear in multiple films that won 11 academy awards, both of those you mentioned.

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 7:20:09am

CNN’s Tapper schools Trump VP hopeful for dismissing hush money payment as ‘filing error’

North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum (R) ran into a buzzsaw Sunday morning when CNN “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper lectured him for trying to dismiss Donald Trump’s hush money payment to an adult film star before the 2016 election as an accounting error.

CNN 05 05 2024 09 03 08

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Hecuba's daughter May 5, 2024 • 7:21:17am

re: #36 Eventual Carrion

4/6 morning

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4 here too

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Group: 3,3,4,4

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 7:21:54am

re: #113 Joe Bacon ✅

CNN’s Tapper schools Trump VP hopeful for dismissing hush money payment as ‘filing error’

North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum (R) ran into a buzzsaw Sunday morning when CNN “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper lectured him for trying to dismiss Donald Trump’s hush money payment to an adult film star before the 2016 election as an accounting error.

a criminal error.

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 7:22:08am

The Sunday Gasbag Shows are in overdrive letting Republicans lie today.

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 7:25:01am

Rudy Giuliani’s theory about why SNL is not funny…it’s not racist enough, because Obama.

mediaite.com

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 7:27:37am

re: #113 Joe Bacon ✅

Kristi Noem’s dog killing adventure really made a difference - Tom Cotton getting called out for his bullshit(as did JD Vance last Sunday) defense of J6, and now other VP hopefuls not being allowed to dismiss Trump’s criminal trial as a nothingburger. There’s a sliver of hope yet for the media.

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 7:31:42am

re: #105 Dangerman

Yeah, that ain’t why

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Speaking of the RNC - they’re having some kind of circle jerk conference in Florida this weekend and their new leadership, Lara something, managed to find an available booking at Mar a Lago of all places! What are the odds of that!

Those Trumps…always finding ways to openly line their pockets.

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No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 7:33:26am

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

Wasn’t Ronald the dude who popularized that “trickle down” nonsense? Giving tax cuts to the mega wealthy hasn’t resulted in anything trickling down to the middle and working classes — ever.

And while I agree that throwing $$$ at poor people isn’t particularly helpful, what President Clinton did by tying training programs to welfare reform was the sensible approach and appears to have worked to a certain degree.
centreforpublicimpact.org

I will beg to differ on this point. There are plenty of studies that show that giving cash to the poor does significantly improve their lives, and especially the lives of children, and they are not likely to simply blow it on drugs or whatever. Just cutting checks for people in need is a lot more efficient method to help them than creating programs with a bunch of eligibility rules, bureaucracy and red tape.

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jeffreyw May 5, 2024 • 7:34:22am

Honey? I think Gabe may have run away from home!

//joke//

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Ace Rothstein May 5, 2024 • 7:35:07am

re: #119 darthstar

The hustle never ends.

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Ace Rothstein May 5, 2024 • 7:36:19am

re: #118 darthstar

You mean to tell me that they may have just learned something after nine years??!!

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Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 7:36:54am

re: #112 Belafon

My wife read that he is the only actor to appear in multiple films that won 11 academy awards, both of those you mentioned.

Some fine acting as Captain Edward Smith in Titanic.

“Titanic will founder” - Scene HD

Perfectly acted - and no dramatic music. That alone conveys the sense of inevitable doom.

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Eventual Carrion May 5, 2024 • 7:38:43am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Flake on a cake? 😂😂😂😂

I had a different take on it. Crude but see below.

Click to Reveal

C**t on a Bundt.

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Hecuba's daughter May 5, 2024 • 7:39:06am

re: #56 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Truth Social exists for two reasons; so they can adulate and trump can suck up that adulation, and so he can get his lies out and, until the court slapped him around, those lies could and have been literally anything that popped into his addled mind.

The site apparently banned those who had an opposing view — or maybe anyone who expressed an opposing view. But certainly there have to be some sane users — how else for us to see the nonsense he expresses? Probably as long as it’s someone non-controversial who just views and never posts, the person is welcome.

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Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 7:44:35am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

The site apparently banned those who had an opposing view — or maybe anyone who expressed an opposing view. But certainly there have to be some sane users — how else for us to see the nonsense he expresses? Probably as long as it’s someone non-controversial who just views and never posts, the person is welcome.

His enthusiastic supporters are happy to send out his garbage on other social media platforms. Doesn’t need to be a single sane person in sight for that to happen.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire May 5, 2024 • 7:47:36am

Morning Lizards. Things are starting to get interesting.

ELON GOT CALLED A TROON!! pic.twitter.com/cimEe6PzfM

— natalie feliks 🐿 (@nataliesqrl) May 5, 2024

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Decatur Deb May 5, 2024 • 7:48:24am

re: #56 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Truth Social exists for two reasons; so they can adulate and trump can suck up that adulation, and so he can get his lies out and, until the court slapped him around, those lies could and have been literally anything that popped into his addled mind.

Almost certainly a third reason: The stock has to be a massive money laundering machine. No one can explain why it has days of significant gains.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 7:48:53am

re: #125 Eventual Carrion

I had a different take on it. Crude but see below.

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But of course. That was my first thought. I just went with the G rated version for a laugh. 😂

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 7:49:04am

re: #123 Ace Rothstein

You mean to tell me that they may have just learned something after nine years??!!

Jury’s still out, but there’s evidence of learning.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 7:50:57am

re: #128 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. Things are starting to get interesting.

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What’s a troon?

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Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 7:51:04am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Almost certainly a third reason: The stock has to be a massive money laundering machine. No one can explain why it has days of significant gains.

I’d assume it’s his followers trying to GameStop the stock price.

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 7:51:58am

re: #128 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. Things are starting to get interesting.

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i had to google - from glaad.org

The Online Hate Research and Education Project defines this derogatory anti-trans word as: “A slur used by transphobes to refer to and dehumanize transgender women. The term is a portmanteau of the words ‘trans’ and ‘goon,’ and carries the connotation that those accused of being ‘troons’ are using gender identity to hide sinister and potentially violent ends.”

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS May 5, 2024 • 7:53:20am

A quick and easy birbie.

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steve_davis May 5, 2024 • 7:53:50am

re: #77 Belafon

I caught thus story just a bit ago about 9 year old Bodhana Sivanandan, who is a chess prodigy:

goodmorningamerica.com

“prodigy” in chess tends to get a bit overused, I imagine as it does in music as well. there are elements of chess that people with certain ways of thinking can master quite quickly. But there are other elements that cause enormous wastage by the time players hit their early teens. If you never develop intuition, you will be stuck forever as a 2250 fide master. there are tons and tons of chess players out there at the master level who’ve been very, very good since they were 8 or 9 but just plateaued there.

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 7:54:23am

Skeletor’s battle cat has opinions.

Mastodon

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No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 7:54:31am

re: #95 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

cnn.com

It is only news on the rare occasions when Trump says something truthful.

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Decatur Deb May 5, 2024 • 7:56:28am

re: #133 Nerdy Fish

I’d assume it’s his followers trying to GameStop the stock price.

That took a large volume of Intertube noise to organize and boost it. I can’t find that for DJT.

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wrenchwench May 5, 2024 • 7:56:56am

re: #135 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire May 5, 2024 • 7:57:23am

re: #132 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What’s a troon?

A very nasty slur. It’s basically short hand for trans goon.

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Belafon May 5, 2024 • 7:57:48am

re: #136 steve_davis

That’s probably why the video didn’t use it. I did because I didn’t have a better word.

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Decatur Deb May 5, 2024 • 8:01:12am

re: #141 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

A very nasty slur. It’s basically short hand for trans goon.

Less elegant than my guess: “Short for poltroon.”

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sizzzzlerz May 5, 2024 • 8:02:34am

re: #138 No Malarkey!

It is only news on the rare occasions when Trump says something truthful.

Reading an earlier post on the story of his private grifting meeting with donors where he bleated that they weren’t paying him enough to pose for a picture with them, I was thinking how exceptional it would be to read that the focus of a meeting was to discuss what his plans were to actually govern instead of reporting his wet dreams of smiting his enemies, kissing Putin’s ass, or lying non-stop about anything and everything.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines May 5, 2024 • 8:06:54am

RIP
Dick Rutan, Who Set an Aviation Milestone When He Flew Nonstop Around the World, Is Dead at 85

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Ace Rothstein May 5, 2024 • 8:09:09am

Tom Rotten is a rotten asshole.

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Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 8:09:19am

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

RIP
Dick Rutan, Who Set an Aviation Milestone When He Flew Nonstop Around the World, Is Dead at 85

Well, that’s the second celebrity (after Bernard Hill).

Who’s gonna be the third?

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 8:09:32am

re: #144 sizzzzlerz

Reading an earlier post on the story of his private grifting meeting with donors where he bleated that they weren’t paying him enough to pose for a picture with them, I was thinking how exceptional it would be to read that the focus of a meeting was to discuss what his plans were to actually govern instead of reporting his wet dreams of smiting his enemies, kissing Putin’s ass, or lying non-stop about anything and everything.

Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Time tried to ask him about his policies and he gave a word salad fever dream of fascist fantasies. In 2016, if you’ll recall, the GOP gave up on trying to even put forward an official platform - they just weren’t Hillary. In 2020 they didn’t even try. This year, the only platform that gets discussed (and criticized) is the Democratic one. Even the media isn’t going to look for a policy position from the GOP.

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 8:12:21am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

Well, that’s the second celebrity (after Bernard Hill).

Who’s gonna be the third?

Paul Auster just passed. They were talking about him on NPR yesterday.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS May 5, 2024 • 8:13:07am

I am chicken!

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 8:13:34am

re: #148 darthstar

Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Time tried to ask him about his policies and he gave a word salad fever dream of fascist fantasies. In 2016, if you’ll recall, the GOP gave up on trying to even put forward an official platform - they just weren’t Hillary. In 2020 they didn’t even try. This year, the only platform that gets discussed (and criticized) is the Democratic one. Even the media isn’t going to look for a policy position from the GOP.

Lies! Trump is going to release his policy on mifepristone in two weeks! Along with his new infrastructure plan in two weeks! And his health care plan in two weeks!

Why can’t you trust the plan?!?

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 8:14:25am

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(assuming no sarc tag was required)

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PhillyPretzel ✅ May 5, 2024 • 8:14:42am

re: #150 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

It looks more like a rooster but I am not going to complain.

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No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 8:17:15am

re: #148 darthstar

Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Time tried to ask him about his policies and he gave a word salad fever dream of fascist fantasies. In 2016, if you’ll recall, the GOP gave up on trying to even put forward an official platform - they just weren’t Hillary. In 2020 they didn’t even try. This year, the only platform that gets discussed (and criticized) is the Democratic one. Even the media isn’t going to look for a policy position from the GOP.

The two major policy positions we know about are because they are Trump’s passions: ethnic cleansing and protectionism. First Trump has stated that he intends to mobilize the national guard, military, and local police forces to round up eleven million undocumented immigrants and put them in concentration camps until they can be deported. Second, he intends to impose a 10% tariff on all imports, and even higher tariffs on certain categories, such as imports from China. Both ideas would be very bad for the economy, and in a second Trump Administration there will be no adults in the room to tell him no, only toadys and fascists eager to execute his agenda like Stephen Miller.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus May 5, 2024 • 8:29:34am

Lots of deaths in the news this morning.

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Eclectic Cyborg May 5, 2024 • 8:31:21am

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Lots of deaths in the news this morning.

Thank you for putting a damper on my brunch.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines May 5, 2024 • 8:33:36am

With thousands of protesters arrested around the country, the Pest undoubtedly knew that some diligent dredging of records could turn up at least one apparent scuzzball to present as a representative example. Note that they refer to the Columbia protests as “riots.”

‘Violent’ Columbia protester is heir to ad empire, has mansion, model babymama — and long rap sheet

One of the most violent leaders of the Columbia University riots is allegedly a professional agitator and limousine liberal — the scion of millionaire ad execs who owns in a $3.4 million Brooklyn townhouse, has a model babymama and a stepmom dating John Cougar Mellencamp.

James Carlson, aka Cody Carlson, aka Cody Tarlow, is “a longtime anarchist,” a high-ranking police source said.

They also manage to sneak in John Mellencamp’s long-repudiated 60s stage name for some reason.

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wrenchwench May 5, 2024 • 8:38:06am

re: #157 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

They also manage to sneak in John Mellencamp’s long-repudiated 60s stage name for some reason.

I saw Johnny Cougar in the 70s! It was shortly thereafter…

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A Cranky One May 5, 2024 • 8:38:18am

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Decatur Deb May 5, 2024 • 8:40:04am

re: #159 A Cranky One

“Che cazzo fai?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 8:42:39am

re: #158 wrenchwench

I saw Johnny Cougar in the 70s! It was shortly thereafter…

He was a local hero in Bloomington, Indiana, about the time I was attending there. He got big shortly after.

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jeffreyw May 5, 2024 • 8:44:47am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS May 5, 2024 • 8:48:16am

re: #153 PhillyPretzel ✅

It looks more like a rooster but I am not going to complain.

Chicken is generic. A boy chicken is a rooster, a girl chicken is a hen.

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darthstar May 5, 2024 • 8:50:01am

Robin’s gone…went on the roof to check the lettuces, tomatoes and peppers, and they all seem to be doing fine - 40 degree nights are almost over. Got a few more birds shouting ‘fuck me’ along the river though.

165

Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 8:50:35am

I am going to hell for this, but my first thought was that this was about Spanish Brady Bunch and I just can’t unsee it.

Mastodon

166

Dave In Austin May 5, 2024 • 8:54:14am

re: #164 darthstar

You’re welcome on the Merlin……. It’s quite a tool.

167

Dr Lizardo May 5, 2024 • 9:01:14am

re: #159 A Cranky One

“Shaddapa you face!”

168

Eclectic Cyborg May 5, 2024 • 9:08:06am

FFVCS backpedaling on that “yes, I basically want to be Hitler” TIME article.

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 9:13:09am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

FFVCS backpedaling on that “yes, I basically want to be Hitler” TIME article.

You can always tell when he didn’t write a post. He didn’t write this post.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ May 5, 2024 • 9:15:29am

re: #169 Unabogie

That is true. The message is not in caps. It actually looks like an intelligent person wrote it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 9:16:40am

No, not everyone wants it left up to the individual states, that was what Roe v Wade told us 50 years ago: states may regulate it but no ban it.

And DJTs party is going to push for a nationwide ban if they are in power.

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Decatur Deb May 5, 2024 • 9:16:47am

re: #169 Unabogie

You can always tell when he didn’t write a post. He didn’t write this post.

Digging in on Hope Hicks and her testimony, it seems she once was the editorial conduit between Trump and the ultimate drafter of his tweets.

(The march across to the church to wave a bible around was also her idea.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs May 5, 2024 • 9:21:37am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, not everyone wants it left up to the individual states, that was what Roe v Wade told us 50 years ago: states may regulate it but no ban it.

And DJTs party is going to push for a nationwide ban if they are in power.

And no, democrats most certainly do not want it left to the states. So whomever wrote that is a typical republican…a liar.

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No Malarkey! May 5, 2024 • 9:25:35am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, not everyone wants it left up to the individual states, that was what Roe v Wade told us 50 years ago: states may regulate it but no ban it.

And DJTs party is going to push for a nationwide ban if they are in power.

Approximately the day after Trump’s AG is confirmed, he will announce that the Comstock Act bans abortion nationwide, and the DOJ will begin immediate enforcement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 9:27:07am

re: #173 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And no, democrats most certainly do not want it left to the states. So whomever wrote that is a typical republican…a liar.

And DJTs true believers know he is just saying that about states’ rights: Abortion is an abdomination unto the Lord and must be banished from America or God will suspend our Most Favored Nation Status and bring down an asswhoop-sized can of dee-vine smitin’ onto our collective heads, just you see.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) May 5, 2024 • 9:28:01am

re: #174 No Malarkey!

Approximately the day after Trump’s AG is confirmed, he will announce that the Comstock Act bans abortion nationwide, and the DOJ will begin immediate enforcement.

and all childbearing-age women leaving or re-entering the country will be subject to medical examination.

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dat_said May 5, 2024 • 9:30:18am

re: #164 darthstar

I was just going to upload my 60 seconds or so of midday birds to announce that spring has reached the north woods. However, I’m ok with being a follower.

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sagehen May 5, 2024 • 9:33:57am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

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FFVCS backpedaling on that “yes, I basically want to be Hitler” TIME article.

“…now up to the States, where everybody, Republican and Democrat, plus all legal scholars and experts, have wanted it to be…”

Does he really think anyone’s going to believe that load of horseshit? NOBODY on the pro-choice side, and very few on the anti-choice side, wanted it to be “up to the states.”

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danarchy May 5, 2024 • 9:36:59am

re: #49 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the NightCafe contest on Friday was “Rainy Day Scenes”, and here is the winner:

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Why are the guy and the dog in the street and the car on the sidewalk?

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 9:45:18am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

The only question about that backtracking is who wrote it?

Methinks it’s Jason “I dropped that little bonus in the drink of the girl I got pregnant” Miller.

181

Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 9:47:52am

‘You’ve never been to North Korea”

“Liar! It’s a very spicy restaurant in Pierre!”

Kristi Noem grilled on errors in new book

182

Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 9:51:24am

Meanwhile at CNN

CNN 05 05 2024 09 45 38

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 10:05:48am

re: #182 Joe Bacon ✅

Meanwhile at CNN

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Video

As soon as I saw “America First Policy Institute” I clicked off. That’s Nazi shit.

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Randall Gross May 5, 2024 • 10:16:42am

re: #169 Unabogie

You can always tell when he didn’t write a post. He didn’t write this post.

Yeah, there aren’t any all caps.

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Belafon May 5, 2024 • 10:21:35am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and all childbearing-age women leaving or re-entering the country will be subject to medical examination.

Unless they’re a Trump donor.

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wrenchwench May 5, 2024 • 10:27:03am

Mastodon

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danarchy May 5, 2024 • 10:28:55am

re: #180 Joe Bacon ✅

The only question about that backtracking is who wrote it?

Methinks it’s Jason “I dropped that little bonus in the drink of the girl I got pregnant” Miller.

I think Hope testified that the only people who had access to Trump’s twitter account at the time was Trump and Dan Scavino…what’s Dan up to these days?

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BeachDem May 5, 2024 • 10:32:04am

re: #113 Joe Bacon ✅

CNN’s Tapper schools Trump VP hopeful for dismissing hush money payment as ‘filing error’

North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum (R) ran into a buzzsaw Sunday morning when CNN “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper lectured him for trying to dismiss Donald Trump’s hush money payment to an adult film star before the 2016 election as an accounting error.

[Embedded content]

Burgum is really considered a VP hopeful? It is to laugh.

Just what makes that little old ant
Think he’ll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant, can’t
Move a rubber tree plant

But he’s got high hopes, he’s got high hopes
He’s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 May 5, 2024 • 10:35:01am

re: #188 BeachDem

Burgum is really considered a VP hopeful? It is to laugh.

Just what makes that little old ant
Think he’ll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant, can’t
Move a rubber tree plant

But he’s got high hopes, he’s got high hopes
He’s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

Frank Sinatra — High Hopes

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prairiefire May 5, 2024 • 10:36:44am

re: #166 Dave In Austin

Thanks!

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goddamnedfrank May 5, 2024 • 10:38:21am

Well, fuck:

JERUSALEM — The latest round of Gaza cease-fire talks ended in Cairo after “in-depth and serious discussions,” the Hamas militant group said Sunday, reiterating key demands that Israel again rejected.

After signs of progress, the outlook appeared to dim as Israel closed its main crossing point for delivering badly needed humanitarian aid for Gaza after Hamas militants attacked it. The defense minister claimed Hamas wasn’t serious about a deal and warned of “a powerful operation in the very near future in Rafah and other places across all of Gaza.”

Israel didn’t send a delegation to the talks mediated by Egypt and Qatar, and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said that “we see signs that Hamas does not intend to go to any agreement.”

Egyptian state media reported that the Hamas delegation left Cairo for discussions in Qatar and will return to the Egyptian capital for further negotiations on Tuesday.

192

Belafon May 5, 2024 • 10:39:46am

DEI must be eliminated from our bras, I mean bars!

Oregon’s Sports Bra, a pub for women’s sports fans, plans national expansion as interest booms https://t.co/IxrYRXxJOK

— The Associated Press (@AP) April 27, 2024

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — On a recent weeknight at this bar in northeast Portland, fans downed pints and burgers as college women’s lacrosse and beach volleyball matches played on big-screen TVs. Memorabilia autographed by female athletes covered the walls, with a painting of U.S. soccer legend Abby Wambach mounted above the chalkboard beer menu.

The Sports Bra is a pub where women’s sports are celebrated — and the only thing on TV.

Packed and buzzing with activity, the bar has successfully tapped into a meteoric rise of interest in women’s sports, embodied most recently by the frenzy over University of Iowa basketball phenomenon Caitlin Clark’s records-smashing feats.

“Things have happened at light speed compared to what my forecast was,” founder and CEO Jenny Nguyen told The Associated Press. “This tiny spot that I built for my friends and I to watch games and give female athletes their flowers means so much more. And not just to me, but to a lot of people.”

Under the plan, bars and entrepreneurs elsewhere will be able to apply to use The Sports Bra brand for their franchises. Nguyen is open to working with people who already have a physical space, as well as those who may only have a business plan. What matters, she said, is that the potential future partners share The Sports Bra’s values…

The expansion will be boosted by funding from a foundation created by Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian, who is married to tennis legend Serena Williams. Nguyen said she already has received hundreds of inquiries…

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Belafon May 5, 2024 • 10:41:45am

I didn’t hear about this:

Tonight, after a 3 hour hearing, Republicans FAILED to kick me off the ballot.

This is yet another attempt at political harassment after failing to silence, censure, intimidate, and expel our movement.

But today the people of District 52 showed up and the truth prevailed! ✊🏾💛 pic.twitter.com/NGm6goRgHB

— Rep. Justin Jones (@brotherjones_) May 3, 2024

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Joe Bacon ✅ May 5, 2024 • 10:51:54am

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goddamnedfrank May 5, 2024 • 10:55:46am

There are at least two ways of looking at this. The first is that Al Jazeera’s broadcasts constituted a legit security threat to the State of Israel such that they absolutely needed to shut it down. The second is that Netanyahu’s government really doesn’t want people inside Israel seeing what’s about to happen in Rafah and the rest of Gaza.

CNN — Israel has ordered the closure of Al Jazeera in the country, a move the Qatar-based news network called a “criminal act.”

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a post on X: “The government headed by me unanimously decided: the incitement channel Al Jazeera will be closed in Israel.”

Ofir Gendelman, the prime minister’s spokesperson to the Arab world, said Sunday that the decision would be “implemented immediately.”

In a post on X, Gendelman said that the network’s “broadcast equipment will be confiscated, the channel’s correspondents will be prevented from working, the channel will be removed from cable and satellite television companies, and Al Jazeera’s websites will be blocked on the Internet.”

Israeli cable providers ceased carrying the Al Jazeera networks by late Sunday afternoon.

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goddamnedfrank May 5, 2024 • 10:58:56am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

Also, for what it’s worth I’m on the record detailing the problem with Al Jazeera.

Question remains why it is being banned now.

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prairiefire May 5, 2024 • 11:14:25am

I hope to get a photo of the Great Horned Owl in our back yard. It’s as large a kitchen trash can, wings look like a 4 foot spread.

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 11:17:32am

re: #188 BeachDem

Burgum is really considered a VP hopeful? It is to laugh.

Just what makes that little old ant
Think he’ll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant, can’t
Move a rubber tree plant

But he’s got high hopes, he’s got high hopes
He’s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

It’s interesting that he says the documents case in Florida won’t be heard before the election, when on paper that’s scheduled to start in June or July. What does he know that we don’t?

(Aside from the obvious conclusion that Cannon is working with Trump to delay the trial)

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Unabogie May 5, 2024 • 11:20:45am

re: #194 Joe Bacon ✅

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Just imagine that the fundies are right, and Heaven™ is real and is populated by people like Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, and Kenneth Copeland.

It is bereft of most artists, musicians, writers, film makers, and actors. It is just a bunch of bigoted god-botherers.

So yeah, that’s my exact description of Hell™

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Nerdy Fish May 5, 2024 • 11:21:49am

re: #198 Unabogie

It’s interesting that he says the documents case in Florida won’t be heard before the election, when on paper that’s scheduled to start in June or July. What does he know that we don’t?

(Aside from the obvious conclusion that Cannon is working with Trump to delay the trial)

The presidential immunity decision won’t come down from the Supreme Court until July, at which time they will send it back to the district court to determine what, if anything, is covered by their new definition of “presidential.” Trump will then appeal that decision up to SCOTUS again, by which time it’s already November.

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BeachDem May 5, 2024 • 11:28:22am

re: #170 PhillyPretzel ✅

That is true. The message is not in caps. It actually looks like an intelligent person wrote it.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Looks like someone other than the orange one wrote it, but not necessarily an intelligent being.

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Hecuba's daughter May 5, 2024 • 11:36:17am

re: #103 austin_blue

At this point, I don’t think the Cons in the UK can be loathed any more than they are.

Any Own Goals by Labour will just off-load votes to the LibDems, not to the Cons.

It’s an advantage of a non-Binary political system.

Didn’t Labour hemorrhaging stop when Corbyn left? Wasn’t he the primary problem with the party for years?

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Nojay UK May 5, 2024 • 11:51:16am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t Labour hemorrhaging stop when Corbyn left? Wasn’t he the primary problem with the party for years?

Nope, but the right-wing press kept on saying he was. Jeremy Corbyn’s big problem was that he wasn’t an Absolute Leader but a concensus politician and that doesn’t work well in a Parliamentary democracy like the UK, never mind the elected monarchical Executive the US labours under (pun intended).

It’s kind of difficult to see from the outside but the Conservative movement in Britain is splitting into two parts, the “hate the poor and sick” Old Guard and “Britain First” proto-Fascist types. Reform UK is providing a political home for the would-be Nazis and racists who are happy to be in a position to finally shout it out loud and proud after decades of seeing their opinions watered down by the Tories they vote for refusing to set up concentration camps and not bombing refugee boats in the Channel. This is leaving the old money-and-class Tories with less and less support and facing the prospect of a crushing electoral defeat in the near future.

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austin_blue May 5, 2024 • 2:19:32pm

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t Labour hemorrhaging stop when Corbyn left? Wasn’t he the primary problem with the party for years?

Big chunk, yeah.

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Eventual Carrion May 5, 2024 • 3:26:47pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon ✅

ABC host confronts Tom Cotton after he says rioters were ‘just wandering’ on Jan 6.

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And that Nazi continues to lie any lie for his Führer!

THEY COULDN’T FIND The BATHROOMS SO THEY JUST SHAT IN THE HALLS.

//Been there , done that.

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